Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Charlie Kirk Suspect Caught, Mockers Face Repercussions | Crime Alert Recap Saturday 09.13.25
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime a art hourly update, breaking crime news Now. I'm
- 0:04Speaker 1: Jackie Howard. The shooting death of conservative pundent Charlie Kirk
- 0:08Speaker 1: has caused a ripple effect across the nation, from the
- 0:11Speaker 1: initial horror of the act, to those mocking and celebrating
- 0:14Speaker 1: his death on social media, to those individuals now facing
- 0:18Speaker 1: repercussions of firings and more as a result. The shot
- 0:23Speaker 1: was fired during a peaceful campus event Kirk's American Comeback
- 0:27Speaker 1: Tour at Utah Valley University in Orum. He sat under
- 0:31Speaker 1: a white gazebo before a crowd of about three thousand people.
- 0:35Speaker 1: A discussion began about transgender mess shooters when a single
- 0:40Speaker 1: shot rang out. Kirk slumped in his chair with a clear,
- 0:44Speaker 1: profusely bleeding wound to his neck. The FBI released images
- 0:49Speaker 1: of a person of interest, a slim white man wearing
- 0:52Speaker 1: sunglasses and a dark baseball cap and a dark sweater
- 0:55Speaker 1: with a picture of an American flag with an eagle
- 0:58Speaker 1: across on the front. On Friday, President Trump announced that
- 1:02Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson, twenty two, was the shooter and was turned
- 1:06Speaker 1: in by his father. Robinson's dad reached out to a
- 1:10Speaker 1: family friend, who then contacted authorities A family member told
- 1:15Speaker 1: investigators that Robinson had become more political in recent years
- 1:19Speaker 1: and in conversations had said Charlie Kirk was full of
- 1:23Speaker 1: hate and spreading hate. During a press conference, Utah Governor
- 1:27Speaker 1: Spencer Cox described the weapon and bullet casings found near
- 1:31Speaker 1: the scene.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Investigators discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark
- 1:36Speaker 2: colored towel. The rifle was determined to be a Mouser
- 1:39Speaker 2: Model ninety eight to thirty six thirt six caliber bolt
- 1:43Speaker 2: action rifle. The rifle had a scope mounted on top
- 1:46Speaker 2: of it. Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on
- 1:50Speaker 2: casings found with the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired casing
- 1:56Speaker 2: read notices bulge's capital wo, what's this question?
- 2:02Speaker 3: Mark.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read hey fascist, exclamation point, catch,
- 2:09Speaker 2: exclamation point, up arrow symbol, right arrow and symbol, and
- 2:15Speaker 2: three down arrow symbols. A second unfired casing read oh
- 2:19Speaker 2: belichow bellachow bellachow chow chow, and a third unfired casing
- 2:25Speaker 2: read if you read this, you are gay LMAO.
- 2:29Speaker 1: The FBI released videos appearing to show a dark figure
- 2:33Speaker 1: running across the roof of a building in the aftermath
- 2:37Speaker 1: evidence included a palm print and forearm imprints and footwear imprints.
- 2:43Speaker 1: A footprint. Officials have said Utah will pursue the death penalty.
- 2:48Speaker 1: In the wake of the shooting, repercussions have come for
- 2:51Speaker 1: some who mocked or laughed at Kirk's murder. DC Comics
- 2:56Speaker 1: canceled the Just Relieved Red Hood comic book series after
- 2:59Speaker 1: all Gretchen phelk or Martin's social media comments. In a
- 3:03Speaker 1: now deleted post, philk or Martin allegedly wrote, hope the
- 3:07Speaker 1: bullet's okay. Charlie Rock, a communications coordinator for the Carolina Panthers,
- 3:12Speaker 1: posted a video on his personal Instagram account of a
- 3:16Speaker 1: Kirk speaking engagement with the caption why are y'all sad?
- 3:19Speaker 1: Your man said it was worth it. It was paired
- 3:22Speaker 1: with the screenshot of Wu Tang Clan's song Protect Your Neck.
- 3:26Speaker 1: MSNBC political analyst Matthew Dowd lost his job after comments
- 3:31Speaker 1: about hateful words leading to hateful actions. Dowd apologized, saying
- 3:36Speaker 1: he didn't intend for his comments to blame Kirk for
- 3:39Speaker 1: the attack. Both the University of Mississippi and Middle Tennessee
- 3:43Speaker 1: State University had removed staff members after comments they made.
- 3:47Speaker 1: And there's more, even an electrician who had to close
- 3:51Speaker 1: this business after his wife posted a video celebrating mocking
- 3:56Speaker 1: Kirk's death. Charlie Kirk's casket was flown from Utah to
- 4:00Speaker 1: Phoenix aboard Air Force two for his funeral and burial.
- 4:04Speaker 1: President Donald Trump has said he will attend Tune into
- 4:08Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace on Monday for the latest
- 4:11Speaker 1: in this evolving story. More crime and justice news after this,
- 4:21Speaker 1: I'm Drew Nelson.
- 4:22Speaker 4: A mother and her partner plead not guilty in a
- 4:24Speaker 4: so called house of horrors in New Jersey, where an
- 4:27Speaker 4: eighteen year old girl says she was held a captive
- 4:29Speaker 4: for years, beaten and sexually abused. Brenda Spencer, aged thirty eight,
- 4:34Speaker 4: and her partner, Brandon Moseley, aged forty one, were arrested
- 4:37Speaker 4: in Camden County on Monday. Prosecutors revealed plea offers of
- 4:41Speaker 4: fifty years for Moseley and twenty five for Spencer. Their
- 4:44Speaker 4: lawyers rejected those offers, Spencer's attorney, Terrell Ratliffe, saying, quote,
- 4:49Speaker 4: I forgot it three seconds after I got told it.
- 4:52Speaker 4: We're not even there at this point in time. As
- 4:55Speaker 4: reported by NJ dot Com. Both defendants faced kidnapping, assault,
- 4:59Speaker 4: and child in min dangerous charges, with Mosley also facing
- 5:02Speaker 4: multiple counts of sexual assault. The case began in May
- 5:05Speaker 4: when the teen escaped their Gloucester Township home and ran
- 5:08Speaker 4: to a neighbor for help. She told investigators that she
- 5:12Speaker 4: had been forced to live in a dog crate since
- 5:14Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, had been padlocked in a bathroom at times
- 5:17Speaker 4: and at other times kept in a bare room with
- 5:19Speaker 4: only a bucket. Here, As prosecutor Grace McCauley, what this.
- 5:23Speaker 5: Young woman survived was absolutely horrific. After speaking with the victim,
- 5:29Speaker 5: our detective searched the residents and found that the victim
- 5:32Speaker 5: was subjected to living in squalid, filthy conditions alongside numerous animals, dogs, chinchillas,
- 5:39Speaker 5: and other animals.
- 5:40Speaker 4: Detectives also discovered that a thirteen year old girl in
- 5:43Speaker 4: the house had been pulled from school years earlier.
- 5:46Speaker 5: Homeschooling maybe the right choice for many families, Unfortunately it
- 5:50Speaker 5: can be used by others as a means to hide abuse.
- 5:53Speaker 4: Neighbors said the older girl was rarely seen outside. The
- 5:57Speaker 4: New York Times reported that when she finally reached neighbor's home,
- 6:00Speaker 4: her hair was shaved, her wrists had scars from handcuffs,
- 6:04Speaker 4: and she smelled foul. She spoke in bursts about being
- 6:07Speaker 4: locked in the dog crate, cuffed to a toilet, and
- 6:10Speaker 4: fed spaghetti from a bucket. Prosecutors later described the ordeal
- 6:14Speaker 4: as quote beyond heinus, this one of the.
- 6:16Speaker 6: Most despicable cases that I've ever run up across.
- 6:19Speaker 4: Police Chief David Harkins confirmed police had first met the
- 6:23Speaker 4: girl at a Wall Wall convenience store after her escape,
- 6:25Speaker 4: but she did not reveal everything.
- 6:27Speaker 6: It was reported to us that it was a domestic
- 6:31Speaker 6: violence type of situation. However, she did not want to
- 6:35Speaker 6: disclose all this information. She did not disclose this information
- 6:40Speaker 6: about being held.
- 6:41Speaker 4: Both teens are now safe. Spencer and Mosley remain jailed
- 6:44Speaker 4: ahead of trial, where they will face decades in prison
- 6:46Speaker 4: if convicted.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I'm Nicole parton Mark. David Chapman has once again been
- 6:52Speaker 3: denied parole, marking the fourteenth time this has occurred since
- 6:57Speaker 3: he fatally shot John Lennon nearly forty five years ago
- 7:01Speaker 3: outside of Lenin's home in New York City at age seventy.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Chapman participated in a parole board interview on August twenty seven,
- 7:09Speaker 3: but was not granted release from the green Haven Correctional
- 7:13Speaker 3: Facility in New York, as indicated by the New York
- 7:16Speaker 3: Department of Corrections and Community Supervisions online records. According to
- 7:21Speaker 3: the timeline, Chapman became eligible for parole in December two thousand,
- 7:25Speaker 3: two decades after he murdered the forty year old Lenin
- 7:28Speaker 3: on December eighth, nineteen eighty, as the musician returned to
- 7:32Speaker 3: his apartment with his wife, Yoko Ono. Earlier that same day,
- 7:37Speaker 3: Lenin had autographed a copy of his latest album, Double Fantasy,
- 7:41Speaker 3: for Chapman. Chapman has been incarcerated since August nineteen eighty one,
- 7:46Speaker 3: convicted of second degree murder, and is serving a sentence
- 7:49Speaker 3: of twenty years to life. His last appearance before the
- 7:53Speaker 3: parole board was in March twenty twenty three. He has
- 7:56Speaker 3: previously voiced remorse for his actions, declaring in a twenty
- 8:00Speaker 3: twenty interview that he deserved the death penalty for his crime.
- 8:04Speaker 3: I assassinated him solely because he was immensely famous, and
- 8:08Speaker 3: I was seeking self glory. He said it was a
- 8:12Speaker 3: selfish act. He referred to his actions as creepy and despicable,
- 8:16Speaker 3: frequently reflecting on Ono, now ninety two, who chose not
- 8:20Speaker 3: to remarry after Lennon's passing. I wish she could know
- 8:24Speaker 3: that she understood her husband better than anyone else and
- 8:28Speaker 3: knew the kind of man he was, which I did not,
- 8:31Speaker 3: he reportedly expressed in an interview. I deserved nothing at
- 8:35Speaker 3: the time of the warrant to death penalty. When you
- 8:37Speaker 3: deliberately planned someone's murder, knowing it's wrong and doing it
- 8:41Speaker 3: for your own glory, that deserves death, he said. In
- 8:45Speaker 3: David Chef's biography Yoko, released in March, she described the
- 8:49Speaker 3: letters she wrote to the board in two thousand as
- 8:52Speaker 3: quote the hardest letter she's ever written. The biography highlighted
- 8:56Speaker 3: that Ono's letter detailed her love for Lenin and his
- 8:59Speaker 3: beliefs to me, he was the other half of the sky.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Our love for each other was intense until the very end.
- 9:06Speaker 3: The letter also addressed the impact of Lenin's death on
- 9:09Speaker 3: their sons Sean forty nine Julian now sixty two, as
- 9:14Speaker 3: well as Ono's own grief. Chef noted that Ono express
- 9:18Speaker 3: concern that Chapman's release could revive the quote nightmare, chaos
- 9:23Speaker 3: and confusion that followed Lenin's murder and could lead to
- 9:27Speaker 3: more violence. In a twenty fifteen interview with The Daily Beast,
- 9:30Speaker 3: Oo shared that she had never considered leaving the apartment
- 9:34Speaker 3: that they shared with Sean as it held cherished memories
- 9:37Speaker 3: of Lenin. It's extremely difficult for me to think about Chapman,
- 9:42Speaker 3: she said, especially since he doesn't seem to believe he
- 9:45Speaker 3: did anything wrong. My concern is that if he did
- 9:48Speaker 3: get out, he would do it once again. Chapman's next
- 9:52Speaker 3: parole hearing is scheduled for February twenty twenty seven.
- 9:57Speaker 7: I'm Jennifer Gould. A serene, Long eyeland and retirement community,
- 10:01Speaker 7: was shattered by a flash of violence when a seventy
- 10:04Speaker 7: six year old woman allegedly shot her neighbor in the
- 10:07Speaker 7: face with a flare gun during a bitter feud. The
- 10:12Speaker 7: explosive showdown at Belmont Villa's Senior apartments, caught on chilling
- 10:16Speaker 7: doorbell footage, has left the sixty seven year old victim
- 10:20Speaker 7: bloodied and his alleged assailant in cuffs. Victim, Richard Katrone,
- 10:26Speaker 7: spoke to NBC New York.
- 10:28Speaker 4: Kathleen showed no emotion, She claimed, I was the devil.
- 10:33Speaker 5: She claimed, I tried to murder her, and she said,
- 10:35Speaker 5: I'm sorry I missed.
- 10:37Speaker 7: The chaos erupted around five forty five pm on the
- 10:40Speaker 7: four hundred block of wyan Danch Avenue in West Babylon,
- 10:44Speaker 7: New York. Home surveillance video shows the victim, Richard, walking
- 10:48Speaker 7: his dog, when his neighbor, Kathleen Schumann, storms out of
- 10:52Speaker 7: her apartment without hesitation. She brandishes a flare gun, aims
- 10:58Speaker 7: and fires at close. The flare ricochets off Katron's cheek,
- 11:03Speaker 7: sending him reeling in stunned agony. Listen didn't think, I ga,
- 11:08Speaker 7: thanks you to what you reacting swiftly, he drops his
- 11:18Speaker 7: dog's leash, charges Schumann and knocks the weapon from her hand,
- 11:23Speaker 7: grabbing her hair in a heated scuffle. Neighbors revealed the
- 11:27Speaker 7: duo's bad blood was a long simmering dispute over their pets.
- 11:31Speaker 7: Schumann's cat reportedly riled up Katrone's dog. Katrone admitted he
- 11:37Speaker 7: had made complaints to management and that he even asked
- 11:41Speaker 7: her to please keep the cat inside. One neighbor noted
- 11:45Speaker 7: that Schumann had moved out temporarily and only returned a
- 11:49Speaker 7: week before the fiery ordeal. Police arrested Schumann shortly after
- 11:53Speaker 7: the incident. Katrone's blood was still visible on the walkway
- 11:57Speaker 7: outside their apartment when officials arrived. Schumann was charged with
- 12:01Speaker 7: second degree assault with an incendiary device, a felony. She
- 12:05Speaker 7: pleaded not guilty at her arraignment, with bail said at
- 12:09Speaker 7: five thousand dollars cash or a thirty thousand dollars bond.
- 12:12Speaker 7: A judge issued a no contact order and ordered her
- 12:16Speaker 7: to stay away from Katron. Both were treated for non
- 12:20Speaker 7: life threatening injuries, with Katrone requiring six stitches in his face.
- 12:25Speaker 7: Connifer ELC manages Belmont Villas, which is marketed as a quiet,
- 12:32Speaker 7: gated apartment complex for residents fifty five years and older.
- 12:36Speaker 7: They called it a quote unquote isolated incident and say
- 12:40Speaker 7: they are cooperating with police. For the latest crime and
- 12:43Speaker 7: justice news, follow the Crime Alert hourly update on your
- 12:46Speaker 7: favorite podcast app, and watch Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
- 12:50Speaker 7: on Fox one and YouTube with this crime Alert. I'm
- 12:53Speaker 7: Jennifer Gould.