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Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Let's go. It's Goldie time, baby. It is time to
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: talk with Adam Gold right now. Man, do we not
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: have so much to talk about, whether it's Carolina winning,
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: whether it was State's ugly performance in a big loss
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: to Virginia, or whether it is what we're getting texted
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: about right now, which is Adam Gold's comments about Dan Morgan,
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: the 2024 draft. We'll let him say it. Well, we'll
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: let him put it into his words, but a lot
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: of people say, and they love what Goldie said about
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: the Panthers drafting. So we can discuss that obviously with
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Trevin Wallace bone getting waved, um, that 2020 and Jatavian
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: Sanders subject to trade rumors, uh, That 2024 draft is
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: getting talked.
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  Speaker 2: About all over again, all over again.
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  Speaker 1: But we can talk about it all right now with Goldie,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Gold, 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh middays. You can
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  Speaker 1: hear his show weeknights here in Charlotte on WFNZ at
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  Speaker 1: 7 o'clock. Adam Gold joins us on the Mac and
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  Speaker 1: Bone Show. Goldie, how you feeling, brother? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I feel great. I'm ready. Fire away.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for, baby. And I had no
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  Speaker 1: doubt you would be. Okay, so what do you think...
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: What was the biggest surprise to you? NC State getting
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  Speaker 1: beat down the way they did or Carolina winning the
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  Speaker 1: game against TCU?
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  Speaker 3: I put out a poll yesterday. What was the bigger deal?
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  Speaker 3: Carolina's win or the way State lost and... Almost four
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  Speaker 3: to one, the answer was the way NC State lost.
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  Speaker 3: I actually thought it was the other way, but I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think they're both very surprising to me. NC State,
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  Speaker 3: that was a gigantic, a pterodactyl-sized egg that was laid
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  Speaker 3: in Charlottesville. It was alarming from every possible angle you
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  Speaker 3: could look at it. They were non-competitive. They couldn't, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: everything was bad on both sides of the ball. There's
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  Speaker 3: nothing good to carry out of it. Not a single
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  Speaker 3: positive for me about NC State. And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what to make of it. I think the best case
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  Speaker 3: scenario is that, hey, man, Virginia's really good. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: not sure that's the case. Because I don't think they
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  Speaker 3: have a two-way offense. I think Virginia can really only
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  Speaker 3: run it. NC State did everything you could possibly do
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  Speaker 3: to get blown out, and they were successful, unless that
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  Speaker 3: was the goal. If that was the goal, then NC State, man,
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  Speaker 3: A +. Because you are just absolutely horrific. As for Carolina, man,
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  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick coined the phrase a long time ago, more
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  Speaker 3: games are lost than won. And they played a very clean,
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  Speaker 3: mistake-free game and allowed TCU to lose. Congratulations, TCU. You succeeded.
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  Speaker 4: Adam, how much did those results change your outlook for
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  Speaker 4: the duration of the season for those teams? Do you
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  Speaker 4: now think differently about what UNC can accomplish? And do
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  Speaker 4: you think that NC State, will they figure it out
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  Speaker 4: or are they going to have a down year? What's
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  Speaker 4: your long-term thoughts about what we know so far?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it really changes the way I think
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  Speaker 3: about North Carolina. I mean, I don't think they'll go 2-10.
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  Speaker 3: This was not one I counted, so I think they'll
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  Speaker 3: be better than 2-10. But they still just scored 15 points,
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  Speaker 3: and they only scored three points after the first quarter.
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  Speaker 3: The two points, the safety was a gift. But it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you took advantage. You know, they gave it
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  Speaker 3: to you. Good. Congratulations. That's why you're liftings. If teams
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  Speaker 3: are going to lose, let them. I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: much it changes about Carolina. I am certainly alarmed at
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  Speaker 3: State because I thought that as bad as C.J. Bailey was,
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  Speaker 3: and he was bad, I really thought the problems that,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, NC State's offensive line was so awful that
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  Speaker 3: it makes me wonder if State's offense will ever be
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  Speaker 3: very good because if they can't block, they couldn't run
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  Speaker 3: the ball. None of their receivers got open, but they
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  Speaker 3: couldn't run it either. And they couldn't protect Bailey, especially
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  Speaker 3: up the middle. If you can't do that, we see
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  Speaker 3: that with the Panthers. If you're in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: your offensive line, can't block, you have no chance. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that was a big problem for NC State.
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  Speaker 1: Goldie, how much do we look at NC State, though?
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  Speaker 1: do we think that this could be like an uncharacteristic,
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  Speaker 1: brutal season? Dave Doran usually, like, he'll often lose these
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  Speaker 1: kind of showcase games early in the season and often
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  Speaker 1: lose them badly. But by the end of the season,
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  Speaker 1: he'll give you, you know, reason to kind of feel like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he kind of pulled things together. Oh, they beat Carolina. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: they won eight games. Do you feel like it'll still
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  Speaker 1: be a season like that? Or are you so concerned
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  Speaker 1: after what you saw on Saturday, you feel like this
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  Speaker 1: could be the rare, like, Really bad season under Dave Doran.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be really bad, but it'd be
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  Speaker 3: hard to win eight or nine if the offensive line
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  Speaker 3: doesn't look better than it did. And again, Bailey wasn't
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  Speaker 3: any good. And he's got, I mean, Dick Vitale used
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  Speaker 3: to coin the all-airport team. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Guys
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  Speaker 3: who walk off the bus, who just look awesome, and
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  Speaker 3: then they get on the court, and they're like, they're
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  Speaker 3: not that good. C.J. Bailey's got a world of physical talent.
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  Speaker 3: He has to be better than he was. Again, with
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  Speaker 3: all of the things that worked against State, he has
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  Speaker 3: to be better than that. Sometimes you have to overcome...
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  Speaker 3: you know, your team's deficiencies if you are truly a
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  Speaker 3: great quarterback. And he has all the physical gifts to
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  Speaker 3: be that. So if he isn't better, yeah, we could
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  Speaker 3: be looking at a really, really bad year. But I
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  Speaker 3: think he'll get better. I just don't know how much. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking to Adam Gold, our weekly spot, Tuesdays, 825.
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  Speaker 4: Adam from 99.9, the fan in Raleigh, and also weeknights
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  Speaker 4: here on WFNZ. Sometimes Adam will, you know, he'll take
• 7:13
  Speaker 4: shots at his own friends on his show, and then
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  Speaker 4: that will replay here later on here on WFNZ, like
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  Speaker 4: he did to me the other day. That never happens.
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  Speaker 3: Did you just read that off a card? 99.9, the fan.
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  Speaker 3: Did you say FM, too?
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  Speaker 4: 99.9 The Fan.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a Goldie cheat sheet over there, Gold.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's good friendship, though, Adam. I get a
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  Speaker 4: text from you today that says, hey, I ripped you
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  Speaker 4: on my show today. It will rerun in Charlotte at
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  Speaker 4: 7.40 p.m. Could you promote that for me?
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  Speaker 2: Please send out a tweet.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, more on that later.
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  Speaker 3: If I didn't love you so much, it would be crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I love you too, man.
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  Speaker 4: One thing that fans didn't love was your takes on
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  Speaker 4: Dan Morgan on Twitter over the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 4: Explain what your take was and what the fan backlash
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  Speaker 4: has been to those takes. We saw you getting in the.
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  Speaker 2: Muck a little bit here. Some of the texters love
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  Speaker 2: his takes, though.
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  Speaker 4: I know, they do.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was, first of all, I never,
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  Speaker 3: ever mentioned Dan Morgan before. That was, I mean, I've
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  Speaker 3: just noted that the Panthers draft history, recent history, has been,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, no good. 25 drafts could end up being great,
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  Speaker 3: which is awesome. And they need it to be great.
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  Speaker 3: The 24 draft is awful. There's just no way to, like,
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  Speaker 3: Xavier Liget is going, might end up being the best
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  Speaker 3: player from that draft. And we know that he is
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  Speaker 3: If Chris Brazel didn't get injured, we might be talking
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  Speaker 3: about wide receiver four. As good a preseason as he
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  Speaker 3: apparently had, but the offense didn't have a good preseason.
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  Speaker 3: So if that's going to be the shining light from
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  Speaker 3: that draft, the 24 draft, that was bad. But I'll
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  Speaker 3: just go, since 2021, the four drafts in a row,
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  Speaker 3: Produced four starters total.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Tommy Tremble's on that list, too. I consider
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  Speaker 3: him a starter by default. Like, on a team with
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  Speaker 3: good tight ends, Tommy Tremble's your third tight end. He's
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  Speaker 3: not your feature. They produced four starters in four years.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to create, like, two and a half, three
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  Speaker 3: starters a year from the draft. Otherwise, you have to
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  Speaker 3: fill all your holes through free agency, which is what
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  Speaker 3: they've done. And they've done a pretty good job, but
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: they don't have depth. I mean, it has really been,
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  Speaker 3: it has not been good drafting. Bryce Young is the only,
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  Speaker 3: you can't screw up the first one, the first pick overall.
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  Speaker 3: Bryce Young is the only draft pick, I think, still
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL. from that team for the 23 draft,
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  Speaker 3: or at least in Charlotte. It has just not been good.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: No, no, it's true. But 21 through 23 is the
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  Speaker 1: old regime. I think we have all long since come
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  Speaker 1: to terms with the fact that Scott Fitter has stunk.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say Dan Morgan. Nobody else said Dan Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's what we have to say.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it was doo-doo, but the franchise was complete doo-doo,
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  Speaker 1: one of the armpits of the NFL during that time frame.
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  Speaker 1: Their personnel department was bad. The coaches that were hired
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  Speaker 1: were bad. The owner was meddling back then. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's shocking that that era was as
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  Speaker 1: bad and dysfunctional that it was. The Dan Morgan draft,
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  Speaker 1: since he's been in charge to me, are the ones
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  Speaker 1: that matter the most to me. I know there's still
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: an effect. What you're saying, Goldie, there's still an effect.
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  Speaker 1: 24 is bad.
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  Speaker 3: 24 was Dan Morgan's first in charge. Trading up? back
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  Speaker 3: into the first round to get Lee, get trading up
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  Speaker 3: after trading back, trading back up to get Jonathan Brooks. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: we'll remains to be seen how that turns out. Um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's traded up for a guy who had
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: an injury history already and then got hurt again. And
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: it's never, it's just never a good idea to trade
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  Speaker 3: up for a running back, no matter where you're doing it. Um,
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  Speaker 3: but look, I'm not trying to give Dan Morgan a
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  Speaker 3: pass at all. And I'm, and, And what I'm about
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  Speaker 3: to say kind of leads to that. He was in
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  Speaker 3: the room in 23 as well in 22 because he
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  Speaker 3: got here in time to be. the assistant GM of
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  Speaker 3: the 22 draft, if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 1: Goldie, I'm in the room when decisions are made in
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  Speaker 1: McLean household. You can rest assured I ain't the one
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  Speaker 1: having the final say.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the room every time.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 3: I am also in the room as my wife makes
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  Speaker 3: the decision.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I could get you on that one. I
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: thought that would be your language.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, Goldie, even with the— She asked me,
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  Speaker 4: what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then I tell her what I think, and it's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what we said. It's like, why were
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: we asked then? It's like, what color?
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  Speaker 3: Do you like this color? And I'm like, yeah, I
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: like that color. She goes, I like the other one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, she sets you up.
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  Speaker 3: Why did you ask me?
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  Speaker 1: That's the worst, too, Goldie, when the missus sets you up,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: when she leads the witness.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like booze. I feel like Bill Burr right now.
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  Speaker 1: It feels good, though, Goldie. Now, it might not feel
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  Speaker 1: good when I get home if Mrs. Mack was listening
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  Speaker 1: right now, but it feels good, though.
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: Goldie, texters want to know, how were the chicken wings
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: you were eating out of the Stanley Cup last week?
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, it was the best chicken wing I've
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: ever had. I'm not even kidding. It really was. It
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  Speaker 3: was delicious. I didn't realize. I was standing next to
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  Speaker 3: the cup, and then I turned over. Like, wait a second.
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  Speaker 3: The chicken wings in the cup. It was phenomenal. My gosh,
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: what a special night. It's so much fun.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: God, you're a rock star. You went no sauce on
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  Speaker 2: the wings, though, right?
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: They were seasoned. They were dry rub.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Really, really good. Nice.
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  Speaker 2: Goldie, you are the man. You are a rock star
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  Speaker 2: in Raleigh. You are an absolute rock star, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: In my little window, in my little, little corner of
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: the universe.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think we can reach that status in Charlotte.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying hard, though. We're trying.
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  Speaker 3: You guys are doing great.
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  Speaker 2: Goldie, we appreciate you, brother.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's going to lead to an interesting
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  Speaker 1: discussion about Goldie's not wrong about those four drafts in
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  Speaker 1: a row. How much flack should Dan Morgan catch? We
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  Speaker 1: will talk about that. As always, Goldie, you get the
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  Speaker 1: discussion going, baby. We appreciate you. We will talk to
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  Speaker 1: you next week.
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  Speaker 3: You got it, fellas. Take care.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you, man.