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A new brewery, Purple Punishments Preview and Dustin Baker’s thoughts before NFL Week 1 | TSH Ep. 56 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of
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  Speaker 1: this Goal.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Evan and I'm Austin.
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  Speaker 3: We're just a couple of dates from Iowa. We like
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  Speaker 3: drinking beer, talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah we do, and we got a good I'm
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  Speaker 2: excited for this beer tonight. It's a brewery I'd never
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  Speaker 2: heard of. I'm so sorry Keg Creek that I've never
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  Speaker 2: heard of you, But we're getting at the point that
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  Speaker 2: our favorite place to go get beer. We're making the rounds.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen about all we can see reasonably, and we
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  Speaker 2: don't want to double up if we don't have to.
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  Speaker 2: So Keg Creek Brewing, I'm very excited that for the
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  Speaker 2: first time I noticed you in our local high v
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  Speaker 2: So thank you. I'm excited. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll be cracking those open here in just a
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  Speaker 1: few minutes. But first we got to pay bills. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we do, so I'm gonna do that quick. We'll give
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  Speaker 1: a quick shout out to Big Top Ventures. If you
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  Speaker 1: were looking for an all inclusive vacation in Mexico or Jamaica,
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  Speaker 1: your next big adventure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and hit them up. Evan. Just just do it, man,
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  Speaker 2: just get it done.
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  Speaker 1: We're in the school year now, so it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: kind of tough to take a vacation.
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  Speaker 3: But we'll get it.
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  Speaker 2: Smells like an excuse over there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll get there.
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  Speaker 2: You need to figure it out, all right, we'll get there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's dive into this beer because I'm really excited. There
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  Speaker 2: were three different varieties of this this brewing company that
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  Speaker 2: I noticed for the first time ever at the local
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  Speaker 2: high v and of course, of course I went for
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  Speaker 2: the hazyipa. Uh. There was an amber and there was
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  Speaker 2: one other kind that I think I initially picked up.
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  Speaker 2: The other kind, but I don't remember what it was.
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  Speaker 2: But I saw the Midwest Hayes from Keg Creek Brewing.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, that's that's the one I'm gonna bring.
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  Speaker 2: So I hope you like it. I'm very excited for it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the hazy i p A guy, and I know
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna like it, but I hope you like it too.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it and.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I'm excited. So let's let's dive in. Evan.
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  Speaker 2: I challenge you to have a good poor on this.
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  Speaker 3: All right. I got better. Actually I was pooring a
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  Speaker 3: beer last night and I'm like, huh, that was pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, nobody was watching.
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  Speaker 3: And actually my wife and sure, brother and sister in law.
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  Speaker 3: You can ask him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure we can ask them and they
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  Speaker 2: would give a true testimony. Hey, we did about the
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  Speaker 2: same there. It is, all right, Well I can give
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  Speaker 2: a true testimony.
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  Speaker 1: Evan.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good poor school. I'm excited at school.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah better, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Mmm, I like that. All right. So this has like
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  Speaker 2: it's it's hazy, but not totally Unsea threw a bole
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  Speaker 2: and it's got a lighter color to it, almost like
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  Speaker 2: a Pilsner ice pilsner ish color to it, with a
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  Speaker 2: little haze. It's got a really good head retention, really
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  Speaker 2: good hop flavor. For me, I'm really very juicy flavor. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's a it's a juicy hazy I pa. And when
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  Speaker 2: you try a beer for the first time from a brewery,
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  Speaker 2: you never know what to expect, but man, that one drink.
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  Speaker 2: Good job, Keg Creek, good job. Where are they from again?
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  Speaker 1: Keg Creek is based out of Glenwood, Iowa, so down
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  Speaker 1: kind of in the southwestern corner, pretty close to Nebraska,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like Omaha Council Bluffs.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, pretty close all right.
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  Speaker 2: So the can says this juicy I pa uses the
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  Speaker 2: best local Iowa and Nebraska hops and added hop hash
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  Speaker 2: and added hop hash intensifies the citrusy notes in this
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  Speaker 2: anytime of the year beer. Yeah. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't know what to expect from that description, but it's
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  Speaker 2: a good, hazy, juicy IPA. I like it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited for the rest of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely delicious and six point two percent, so it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of right in.
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  Speaker 3: Your Yeah, it's my referred wheel.
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  Speaker 2: My sweet spot. Six to six ' five is my
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  Speaker 2: like bullseye of perfect ABV for beers. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: about you. That's that's perfect for me. And so far
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  Speaker 2: this is hitting all the boxes. So I'm excited to
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  Speaker 2: keep going and give a true honest review after a
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  Speaker 2: couple more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you better know that I'm gonna hunt down
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  Speaker 3: that amber the next time I'm at hiving, it's there.
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  Speaker 2: I could I could paint a verbal picture to get
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  Speaker 2: you right where they were located. So I'll do that later.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we can do that off air.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We got to do one other thing quick before we
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  Speaker 1: really get into the episode, and that is we've got
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  Speaker 1: to continue to remind all of you out there to
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  Speaker 1: go give us a vote for the Iowa Podcast Awards. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna put that link down here as well.
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  Speaker 1: It'll also be linked down in the description, so you
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  Speaker 1: can click on that, but head over to Iowa Podcast
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  Speaker 1: Awards dot com backslash of vote and you can vote
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  Speaker 1: for up to three Iowa based podcasts for their People's
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  Speaker 1: Choice Award. We would love it, Oh yeah, people would
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  Speaker 1: vote for us. We're also in the running for Best
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  Speaker 1: Sports Podcast and the Emerging Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And I've looked at the competition. There's some other really
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  Speaker 2: good Iowa podcast listed on all three of those awards,
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  Speaker 2: and I really think, honestly, I think we match up
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  Speaker 2: to the competition. I think we're worthy of being nominated.
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  Speaker 2: Just to toot our own horn there for a second,
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  Speaker 2: but even being nominated, that's super cool for us. But
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  Speaker 2: one of the more cool parts about this whole Podcast
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  Speaker 2: Towards experience is that we're gonna be able to not
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  Speaker 2: next episode, but the episode after that. Episode fifty eight
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  Speaker 2: of the School Hop will be recorded live at the
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  Speaker 2: Podcast Awards. You may listen to it after the fact
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  Speaker 2: on one of the many podcatchers that you're listening to
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  Speaker 2: us on, but we're going to be recording it live
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  Speaker 2: September fifteenth at the Awards minutes after the Vikings game
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  Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers ends. And that's the thing
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  Speaker 2: I'm most excited about is to be able to get
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  Speaker 2: up in front of people and do what we're doing now,
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  Speaker 2: review a beer, and just kind of do our thing
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  Speaker 2: live and hopefully gain a few more followers and just
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  Speaker 2: get our name out there a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun to just
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  Speaker 1: kind of rub shoulders with some other podcasters and get
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  Speaker 1: to know people from all over the state that are
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  Speaker 1: doing the same thing we're doing, probably on a weekly
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  Speaker 1: or a bi weekly monthly baseless who knows and working hard,
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  Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, do what they're passionate about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so just one more time this episode go ahead, please,
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  Speaker 2: we'd be honored. If you'd go vote for us for
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  Speaker 2: the People's Choice Awards. Check out some of the other
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  Speaker 2: podcasts that are listed on there too. There's a few
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  Speaker 2: really good podcasts on that list as well. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we'd love to win. We're honored to be nominated, and
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  Speaker 2: we can't wait to see everybody there on the fifteenth too.
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  Speaker 1: I know I've told you this, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that I've shared this information publicly. But the day before
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  Speaker 1: the Podcast Awards, do you remember where I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to You're going to see our alma mater
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  Speaker 2: at a Big ten university football game. Yes, I am
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  Speaker 2: the You and I Panthers are playing the Nebraska Cornhuskers
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  Speaker 2: in Nebraska on the fourteenth of September, and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be in attendance.
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  Speaker 1: I will be there, Yes, I'll be there with my
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  Speaker 1: wife and her parents. Her dad is a Nebraska alum.
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  Speaker 1: But he did joke that maybe he'll have to wear
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  Speaker 1: his You and I shirt because he paid more tuition
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  Speaker 1: to You and.
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  Speaker 3: I than he did to Nebraska. That's funny.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, if you if you're an Eagle Eye Skollhop viewer
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube or Spotify or whatever you might you might
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  Speaker 2: be able to see some Nebraska something on this set. Here.
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  Speaker 1: There's you and I stuff down here, for sure, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. I don't know if we've I've had any
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  Speaker 1: of the Nebraska stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I thought on the I thought you had some some
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  Speaker 2: form of the field.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think where did I put that? I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that's in here?
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  Speaker 2: Okay it was at one point.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, it is. It is down here. It's actually
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  Speaker 3: I'm covering it up right now.
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  Speaker 2: But oh okay.
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  Speaker 1: It's an old piece of turf yeh, from Memorial Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. And as a Hawk fan, any sports
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  Speaker 2: memorabilia is pretty cool to me. So yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: pretty neat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's gonna be a busy weekend for me.
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  Speaker 1: Football game Saturday night and then podcast awards on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it'll be it'll be a fun weekend
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: So this coming season for the Vikings, we've talked about
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  Speaker 2: it a couple of times. We're adding a new segment
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  Speaker 2: onto the show each week. And what are we calling it,
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  Speaker 2: of Purple Punishments. Yeah, So last week and kind of
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  Speaker 2: the last handful of days, we've really finalized the list
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  Speaker 2: of these punishments that will be so we're gonna each week.
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  Speaker 2: How this will work is a few episodes ago, we
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  Speaker 2: made our episode or our game by game pick on
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  Speaker 2: if we think the Vikings will win or lose each game,
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  Speaker 2: and each week if our previously chosen pick what's incorrect
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  Speaker 2: whether they win or lose. If we picked them to
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  Speaker 2: win or lose and we were wrong, Evan and or
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  Speaker 2: I will have to spin a virtual wheel of punishments
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  Speaker 2: that we'll have to complete on the episode and we
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  Speaker 2: finalize those punishments. Yeah, so I'll list off some of them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we'll go through the whole list. We'll
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  Speaker 2: leave a few kind of in the air for some suspense.
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  Speaker 2: But one of the one of the ideas, and we
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  Speaker 2: could do this multiple weeks in a row, would be
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  Speaker 2: wearing apparel for a division rival.
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  Speaker 3: That would be tough.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's that might be the biggest punishment
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  Speaker 2: this whole list for me is to if I theoretically
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  Speaker 2: have to wear something with a Packer logo on it, Man,
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  Speaker 2: that would be rough. Listen in if I have to
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  Speaker 2: do that, you will hear the pissed offness in my
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  Speaker 2: voice because I'm rapping something from their team. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's other stuff too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so something that you and I did a long
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  Speaker 1: long time ago when we were in junior high and
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  Speaker 1: we could bring back the consuming entire jar of pickles
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  Speaker 1: challenge all in one sitting.
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  Speaker 2: That's every pickle, every drop of juice, everything. But that's
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  Speaker 2: a punishment. So if one of us lands on that,
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  Speaker 2: that'll probably be more like a throughout the episode, we're
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  Speaker 2: just gonna snack on pickles, either one of us. If
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  Speaker 2: we land on that, we'd have.
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  Speaker 3: To and then I'll chug the juice at the end.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so I don't know about you in my mind,
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  Speaker 2: because theoretically, if if we both lose, they we're both
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  Speaker 2: gonna yeah, there will be two jars of pickles, so
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  Speaker 2: we each have to The challenge is not tandem cons
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  Speaker 2: it's you have to by yourself consume consume an entire jar.
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  Speaker 2: I like pickles, I do so, but that's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of pickles, it's a lot of pickles
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  Speaker 2: and pickle juice.
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  Speaker 3: So gonna a SAMs crub and get the big huge jar.
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  Speaker 2: The like Jimmy Johns esque, like giant pickles, don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that all right.
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  Speaker 1: Some other ones here more consuming things. The Sprite challenge
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  Speaker 1: eating something spicy.
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  Speaker 2: We had listed eat a hob and arrow, but one
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  Speaker 2: of us is not super good with spicy food, and
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  Speaker 2: one of us didn't want to commit to eating hob
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  Speaker 2: an arrow, and to their credit, the other one kind
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  Speaker 2: of suggested, Hey, maybe we just say something spicy rather
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  Speaker 2: than a hob an arrow.
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  Speaker 3: So it's me I.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely mean, but still eating eating an entire hobbin arrow
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  Speaker 2: just in one shot on the episode. That would be
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  Speaker 2: a lot like.
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  Speaker 3: While drinking beer at the same time, Like that's going
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  Speaker 3: to be torture, but we'll still We'll still be up there.
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  Speaker 3: I can barely make it through medium wings at be Dum.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm the guy that when the Mexican restaurant brings
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  Speaker 3: out the hot sauce that they say is hot, I
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  Speaker 3: taste it and I don't even recognize that it's supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be hot. Like I like spicy food, you must
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  Speaker 3: have no taste buds.
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  Speaker 2: My wife tells me that I've completely burned my taste buds.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I like the challenge, So I would do
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  Speaker 2: two hobbin arrows, you know, I would do five, you know. Anyways,
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  Speaker 2: what else we got.
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  Speaker 1: On a few other ones? Again, we're gonna save some
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  Speaker 1: of these for later. But wearing a blindfold for the
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  Speaker 1: entire episode, or that would be hilarious. Wearing socks on
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  Speaker 1: your hands trying to drink beer. Maybe we'll have to
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  Speaker 1: bring the mugs with the handles back for that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that'd be easier, or if it
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  Speaker 2: would be easier to do the football maybe. Either way,
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  Speaker 2: we will have already probably poured our beer at that
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  Speaker 2: point before we know what the punishment is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we probably won't need to do that, so anyways,
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  Speaker 1: those are just a handful of the ideas. We have
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  Speaker 1: a list of eighteen one for each week of the season. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: they'll only play seventeen games, and we only made seventeen picks,
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  Speaker 1: but there's an extra one on there just in case.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here. Listeners,
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  Speaker 2: if you can think of something that would be funny,
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  Speaker 2: something we could add to the list, that would be good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we would still listen to suggestions at this point,
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  Speaker 2: even through the season. If we've done a handful of punishments,
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  Speaker 2: we would still listen to better ideas because these are
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  Speaker 2: just it was actually kind of difficult to come up
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  Speaker 2: with some of these these ideas. So well, we.
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  Speaker 1: Wanted stuff that we could do like right away in
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  Speaker 1: the moment, not like, oh, we've got to go like
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  Speaker 1: do that later.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and not too punishing like I've said, like stapling
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  Speaker 2: our forehead or getting a face tattoo or something, nothing
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  Speaker 2: crazy like that. But like I mean, if if we
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  Speaker 2: hear a really funny or cool idea, we'd add it
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  Speaker 2: to the list.
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  Speaker 1: I think eating a hobby narrow might actually be torture
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  Speaker 1: for me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I might die. You just gotta
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  Speaker 2: do it, you just I have a hobby and narrow
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  Speaker 2: plant at home. I think I just need to bring
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  Speaker 2: one over and just let you do a dry run.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we can film it. Maybe we don't have to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just totally up to you.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna be over there with your phone like trying
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  Speaker 3: to sneak or.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well that's coming up next week. Again. It's
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  Speaker 3: based on our game picks.
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  Speaker 1: So we both said that the Vikings will win against
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  Speaker 1: the Giants. Let's hope they win, and hopefully we don't
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  Speaker 1: have to spin the wheel week one, but.
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  Speaker 2: If they lose, we're both spinning the wheel and we will. Man, well,
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  Speaker 2: we have to do that at theoretically at the podcast Awards.
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  Speaker 1: I think we had talked that we would pre spin
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  Speaker 1: the wheel for that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yes you did, Yeah, okay, yeah, that.
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  Speaker 1: Way when we're there, we already know what the punishment
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  Speaker 1: will be, and we'll do it there because.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have to take some prep.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have to if we're going to spin it on
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  Speaker 2: an episode, we'll have to do it next week unless
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  Speaker 2: we just do it you and me prior to recording
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. We'll need to figure that out.
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  Speaker 3: We'll figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we could probably spin the wheel twice next week,
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  Speaker 1: once for if we didn't pick the Giants game correctly,
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  Speaker 1: and then one as kind of a preemptive spin for
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  Speaker 1: the Niners game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, I guess my my timing's messed up.
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  Speaker 2: Next week, No, next week we'll be talking and it'll
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  Speaker 2: recap of the Giant Street.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, next week we'll have actual regular season football to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. Oh man, I almost don't believe it. So
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  Speaker 1: let's let's talk about the game really quick. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a little bit here we're gonna have Dustin Baker on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get to talk to him about kind of
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  Speaker 1: his final thoughts before the season starts.
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  Speaker 3: But before he joins us.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about what we think what's gonna happen week one.
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  Speaker 1: There hasn't been a ton of new developments in terms
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  Speaker 1: of like roster moves and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, as far as like the last time we recorded,
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  Speaker 2: Jaren Hall was still a Viking quarterback. They had just
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: made the initial fifty three man roster. But as far
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: as on the skull hop, we haven't really given our
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: thoughts on like the practice squad being finalized or really
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: there haven't been a ton of earth shaking moves, just
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: more more so the practice squad being finalized. But I mean,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Jared Hall is a big talker. Canaidan wangu failing his
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: physical with the Saints and I guess he's a free
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: agent or did he? I know he kind of visited
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: the Jets or was about to. I don't know. There's
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: there's some news that we haven't talked about when we
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: can bring up with Dustin, But yeah, I mean the
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Giants are coming up. What are your thoughts on do
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the Vikings win. What are you what are your initial
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: thoughts initially? Do you think the Vikings win.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with the pick that I made originally.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll stand by that pick. I think there
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: will be some times later on this season where I'm like, yeah,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: back in July or August or whatever, when I made
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: those picks, I didn't know what I know now. But
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I still think the Vikings are just a stronger team,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and I think they're a better coached team. I think
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: right now Kevin O'Connell's job is pretty.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Safe at this point, at think point.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we can talk about this later too, but
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: we maybe talked about the article that came out with
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer. That's another talker here in a minute. But anyways,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: just hearing some of the that cultural thing that Koc
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: brings in the cultural peace and how he's really built
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: a family out of this team. And on the flip side,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: you have Brian day Ball, who's probably on the hot seat.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: You could argue, yeah, I.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Think going into this season if he doesn't, if he
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't find success, he could be out of a job
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: in January, February could be So he's really got to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: make something out of Daniel Jones. He's got to figure
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: that out and get that going. And I don't think
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that was a good save. By the way, nice terrible poor.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I have sorry for those that are only listening. I'm
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: pouring my second beer, and yes, I've been pretty cocky
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and confident in my poor is in the last handful
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of weeks. I just had one that was legitimately too
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: hard of a poor and I had to save the foam.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I had to jump in and try to drink some.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Of the food. We do have paper towels, we do.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: But thank you for the compliment in the good save.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: But it's all because I had a terrible poor.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So okay, well focus on the positives. It's like KOC
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: does and what a transition. But yeah, I really think
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Koc's coaching will come through, and I think the Giants
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: will struggle. I don't think their defense is great and honestly,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know that they have a whole lot going
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: on on offense.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: So those are my thoughts.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I think leadership wise,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: the Vikings are in a better spot KOC. Definitely. Every
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: once in a while you'll see a coach that players
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: play for. I think of Leslie Frasier, former Vikings coach.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: He was definitely a player's coach, but he no offense
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: to Leslie Fraser. He's a better coach than I could
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: ever even dream to be. But he wasn't that great
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of an NFL coach. Yeah, he was a guy that
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: people rallied behind and played for, and he was a
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: motivator and a leader. But as far as like being
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: a good exes and o's coach, he just didn't bring
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: that to the table, and that why he didn't succeed
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: in the NFL as a head coach. He's been a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: pretty good coordinator. I think koc truly brings it all.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: He's he's a raw rock guy. He is a players coach.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: He you know, the team after every win puts out
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: a video of him like sprinting around the locker room
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: giving the raw ross pach handing up the game balls.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And he definitely seems like a guy that players want
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: to play for and players like to, you know, make
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: happy because he is such a good guy. But he's
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: also a really good coach. He knows the x's and o's.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: He was an NFL quarterback. Yeah, he wasn't a Hall
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: of Famer, but he was an NFL quarterback. He knows
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the game and he knows how to be a head coach.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: So I think Koc brings it all to the table,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and everything we've heard is the rest of the coaching
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: staff also brings it all to the table. Brian Flores,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: he's got to be one of the best defensive coordinators
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: in the league. And players like to play for all
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: these coaches. So I think when you compare the Vikings
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: coaches and the Giants coaches, it definitely seems like the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Vikings have the upper hand there. Roster wise, maybe they're
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: pretty even. I would argue like they're they're probably about
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: even neck and neck. And when I looked earlier today Monday,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the second of September Labor Day DraftKings has this game.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: The Vikings are favored by one point, which essentially means
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: it's a pick them game. So it's gonna be an
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: even game. It shouldn't be a blowout either way, and
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: it's not one that even Vegas is confident in saying, Yeah,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: this one's the favorite, this one, you know it'll be
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: a close game.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'd like
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to think that it's more than a one point game.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, theoretically it won't be. But and I think we
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: both are going to stick by our picks saying that
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the Vikings are going to win. Yes, it's in New
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: York or New Jersey, you where the Giants play. But
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I have more confidence in
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff for the for the Vikings to be
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that edge to win the game.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We got a kicker now too, who can make kicks.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not wearing forty six anymore. Did you
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: see that?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: No? I didn't see that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Today the Vikings announced a bunch of Jersey number changes.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmore he's wearing number two now. Brian Asmoy he's
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: wearing number six. He was number two, and will record
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: he switched from forty six to sixteen, which was available
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: because Jaren Hall got cut. Yeah, that's a comeback.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: That's a better number for him to wear. What was
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: his college number?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: No, we could probably look it up. I feel like
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: it was probably something closer to sixteen than forty six,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: although college kickers frequently they'll wear like ninety nine or
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: It looks like he was sixteen?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Was it sick? Oh? Okay, all right, I know Twitter
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: seemed to be pretty added when Hall or when when
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: reikerd switched his number to sixteen for the Vikings. So yeah,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: it seems like a better number fifteen fifteen in Alabama? Okay? Well,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and if you compare it to sixteen, interesting, get me mixed.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I'm getting mixed signals. Maybe he was there for.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: A while, maybe he switched numbers around a couple of times.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: But John Parker Romo, the former Vikings kicker that got
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: beat out by wool Record, he was wearing ninety six
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings. And that's I mean, Brian Robinson, that's yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: that's a defensive lineman number.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: So definitely weird to see a kicker in anything over
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: like twenty.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, even twenty would be a weird you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would have been okay with a forty
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: six for a Vikings kicker. Maybe that's not the Maybe
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: that's a hot take.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, Well, you got a few
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: more minutes and then we're gonna toss it over to
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Dustin Baker. You sent me this article, I think was
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it a USA Today or a Star Tribune.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: It was something it was Star Tribune. I think Mark
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Craig is who wrote the article. But yeah, it's essentially
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: an interview with Mike Zimmer, the most recent former Vikings
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: head coach, and it was pretty interesting. Did you did
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: you read the article? I did.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got through most of it, and then I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: saw a lot of people talking about it on Twitter
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and other social media sites, So that was it was
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: interesting to see the commentary after it came out.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say so, I read it all the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: way through. But before I read it all the way through,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I saw the quotes that people were tweeting out and
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: reacting to. And some of the quotes. One of the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: big ones is something to the tune of like the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Wolfs when when they let Zimmer go, they also gave
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: him the opportunity if they if he wanted to to
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: go address the team before he left, and the quote
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: was something like, heck no, they got me fired. And
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: so that's the one that got tweeted around. And yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that's probably a really really blunt and honest thought in
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the process, in the thought process, but if you read
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the whole article, it doesn't make Zimmer come off across
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: as like the biggest jerk in the world. It gives
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: you some insight into a guy that was fired and
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: didn't really think he should have been fired, but he
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: still I think if you read the whole article, it
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: gives you a better perspective on his thought process and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: lets you know, yeah, he was annoyed, but he's not
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the worst person in the world.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: And also a guy who was grieving quite a bit. Yeah,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: after losing his son in.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, he had some other issues off the field
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota two with his I know, he had eye
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: problems and to wear the patch for a long time
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and all that. So you know, yeah, I thought the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: article did a nice job of maintaining his dignity and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: his honor.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: He's still a great coach. I like how it started
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: where I think it was either his daughter or his
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: now girlfriend or something. It was his daughter.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his daughter basically said like, yeah, you're happier now.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: You have a better demeanor in life than you did
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: when you were kind of in the thick of it
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and as a head coach.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: So do you remember that NFL It was like an
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: NFL promo commercial they put out. I think either to
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: like start the season, and they were kind of giving
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: clips of a bunch of players and coaches and people
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: around the league like be it really happy about like, ah,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: this season is about to start. And then it like
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: just cut to Mike Zimmer behind his desk like just
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: kind of like for like five straight seconds, just like
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: straight face angry, like whatever, like get out of my
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: office and maybe everything I just said I was too
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: far away from the mic. I don't know, but the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: NFL and he kind of put off this persona when
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: he was the Vikings coach of like this guy that's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: like just pissed off all the time. I'm I remember
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: seeing a clip of when he was a Bengals defensive coordinator.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: They were on hard Knocks and it was this like
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: thirty second clip and most of it was bleeped out
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: because not even every other word, but like most of
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the word Zimmer was saying to these players mid game
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: was like if you know, all these every swear word
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: in the book, probably some swear words he made up,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: but like he just kind of came off across as
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: like this hard nosed guy, and this article the beginning
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: of it was like, yeah, he's actually kind of smiling,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: like he kind of likes coaching again for the Cowboys
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: as a defensive coordinator. Again, like, I don't know, it
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: was a good article. I'd recommend finding it if you can.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I know, the Star Tribune has a paywall behind most
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: of their stuff. We were able to find it and
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: read it, so I don't know, it was it was interesting.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was and I yeah, like I said, it
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: didn't paint Zimmer as a bad guy. I definitely think
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: he's your old school coach, rough, tough. And it was
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: surprising though, to dig into the team culture a little
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: bit because we knew there were issues. We knew it
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't all, you know, sunshine and rainbows in the locker room.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he straight up said like his last years the
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Vikings coach, him and Rix Bielman, the GM didn't speak
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: to each other, didn't talk well.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: He kinda he got frosty with a lot of people.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: He got frosty with Kirk Cousins and wouldn't talk to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: him because he didn't agree with signing Kirk Cousins. That's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: interesting and that was an interesting quote in the article
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: when he said, yeah, Kirk came and then we lost
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the ability to sign better defensive players, yeah, which I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: think could have helped us.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And he was saying, like we were winning, you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: ten plus games every year with guys like Bridgewater or
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: case kingem like, we didn't need the MVP level quarterback,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and then we get one and we pay him all
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: this money and it makes the rest of the roster
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: suffer because we can't sign these guys.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Like and then I don't know if it was in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the article or if it was a separate quote from
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Kellen Mond kind of in response to all this, but
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I saw something Kellen Mond was quoted saying this was
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: on Twitter. I think that he didn't speak to Zimmer once.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it alluded to it in the article,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean, and we.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: All know that Zimmer didn't like that Spielman took kellen
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Mond at all. Like I think that was pretty obvious
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: to anybody, even casual fans. But like, you drafted the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: guy you're the head coach to not even have the conversation,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and that just reminds me of Justin Jefferson, like not
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: even knowing where the head coach's office was TCO. Yeah,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and that wasn't even in the article, but that was
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: just something we heard about and like Kaos is just
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a night and day different coach, like he just he
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and we've already alluded to it, We've already said it,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: like he's he's a player's coach.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: He builds relationships with these guys.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And now you see the videos coming out on Viking
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: social media of like Justin Jefferson just happens to swing
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: by the office and like, hey man, what's up, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Dap each other up, give each other a hug, and.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I love it. A couple of times the Vikings have
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: put out little shorts or tiktoks or whatever, and it'll
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: be like Koc kind of walking up to the huddle
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: of players in practice and he'll kind of jab and
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: be like, now, I know you guys all suck at basketball,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: but we need you to jump high, and all the
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: all the players like why no way, it's funny, but
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: like that's the kind of culture you're talking about, Like
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Koc just jokes around with these guys but still gets
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the job done. I think Zimmer was very much the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: like he was the drill sergeant and got things done.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: And some some players respond to that. Some players don't.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: And if they don't and you're not winning. That's what's
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: gonna cause a change in coaching. So it was a
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: good article. I enjoyed reading it, and ultimately I came
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: away having a more positive attitude about Zimmer if you
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: understand except that he is the hard nos guy, that
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: he says things a certain way and he has a
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: certain way of doing things, which is that quote unquote
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: drill sergeant way. But people still like him, like he's
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: not universally hated. He just he's got the hard nos.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: This is how we're going to do it, and sometimes
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: it rubs people the wrong way. But ultimately I read
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the article and had a better perspective on Mike Zimmer.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: And I would also add I think the Vikings hired
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: the right guy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Kevin O'Connell.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I think Zimmer was a good coach, that we found
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: some success under him, and it seems like he's a
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: lot happier now now that he's had a few years
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: away from football and now he's reintegrated back with the Cowboys.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Good for him, wish him nothing but the best.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: But boy, am I glad that we've got Kevin O'Connell
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: leading the charge and to that point in the article,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: it kind of asks like Mike Zimmer if he would
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: ever want or think he could ever get another head
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: coaching position again, and he kind of like dances around
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the question. He doesn't say yes or no if he
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: wants to be a head coach again, but he does
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: kind of say maybe I'm a little too old. And honestly,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I think these owners want want a coach that can
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: really coach the quarterback, which that's how the NFL is
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: going these days, and I think Zimmer's right in that
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: aspect that yeah, owners and gms, they want a head
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: coach that can think that can be the mentor to
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the quarterback. And to that point, I think koc is
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the perfect example of that. I don't think we could
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: have a better one.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I definitely agree. Well, we probably better wrap things up
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: for this part of the episode. We're gonna push us
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: into our conversation with Dustin Baker here pretty shortly, and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: we'll come back after that. We'll talk about the beer
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and give some final thoughts before we head into Week.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: One of the NFL season.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Can't wait, all right, School, It's cool, all right, Welcome
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: back school, Hoppers. So we're about halfway through our episode
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: here and we're graced again with the awesome, amazing, wonderful.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I know he loves all these compliments. Dustin Baker, thanks
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: for coming on, man, Thanks man. I hung out with
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Thorn Nystrom yesterday for a couple hours right before the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Minnesota State Fair, and we talked about when on shows
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: like these, when you guys shower us with these type
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: of comment we're both kind of like, we're just regular dudes.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: We don't you know, We're just like you, So we
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. But you know, if you met us for
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: whatever situation you figured out that, you know, I'm just
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: like your neighbor or a guy you went to high
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: school with. So thank you nevertheless. Yeah, well thanks for
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: coming on. I hope you know. I kind of do
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it a little tongue in cheek too, like yeah, yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: now it's a bit yeah the first time, like the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: first time you ever came on this goldhop what last year?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: The whole day leading up to it, I'm like, oh
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: my goodness, we have Dustin Baker coming on. I'm super stoked,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm still super stoked, and I'm still a big
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: fan of yours, but like I was almost starstruck. Like
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you could have been insert actual Vikings player and I
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: still would have been like, oh my gosh, like I'm
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: so so excited. I hope you don't blow this. So
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I know you're I know you're telling the truth, because
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: this is the exact same feeling I had with Brian
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: mckennie four years ago when we started the Believe show.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I felt like a total fanboy when I met him
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: on Zoom the first time, and then within a year
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, let me text Bryant real quick
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: and see what's going on. It just felt like the
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: most casual thought I've ever had in my life. So
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I know, I know how that feeling goes. Yeah, well,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: and you've you've told enough stories with Bryant that it's like,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, hey here, let me just text text Randall
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and we'll get Randy Moss on the episode. Like what
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: do you gotta be careful, You gotta be careful who
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: you name drop, because he'll just get him in the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: group chat. You're like, oh my god, well, that'd be
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: such a terrible problem to have accidentally get Randy Moss
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: on the show next week. That'd be crazy. But again,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: all that thanks for coming on. We have some Vikings
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: news to talk about and totally f we have a
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: season coming. Yeah, in week our next episode we'll be
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: talking about the Giants game. I'm super excited. I can't wait.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: It almost doesn't feel real.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Football's back.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So we do have some some pre
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: written talking points here. Preseason just kind of wrapped up,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: and last week we talked about the initial fifty three
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: man roster just as a as a whole. What were
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on the final cuts, like, any surprises, anything
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: you totally called and you're proud about. What are your
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: total thoughts about all of that? So would you rather
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: be go through surprises first? Or my favorite thing from it?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: What's what's the best whatever you want to talk about.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Let's just say you get X amount of times? Just okay,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: your total thoughts on the final cuts? Okay, so I'll
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: do it threefold. I'll do two surprises and then the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: thing that I enjoyed the biggest surprise. And this may
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: not mimic what your audience or any like casual Joe
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: every man at the grocery store might say, but the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: fact that Jalen Redmond made the roster was astonishing to me,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: not that he was utterly anonymous all summer. It's that
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: usually UFL stories or XFL stories. The only thing that's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: cool about those is the moment he signs. You're like, oh,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I watched that son of a gun play for the
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: ARLEI to Renegade. Now he's on the Viking. That part
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: is kind of cool, but it rarely translates into a
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: some end of summer success story. So the fact that
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: he made the roster to me, I don't know any
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Vikings fan or writer, analyst, whatever you want to call him,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: that had him on the final fifty three man and
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I was proud this year I got fifty one out
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: of fifty three right, and Red was one of the
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: ones I got wrong. So the fact that an unsung
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: signing from May or June whatever it was, we're like,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: who is this? We all had to go rewatch the
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: tape from Oklahoma and we're like, oh, yeah, I remember
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: him a little bit. That he made it. And then
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the canay In Wong Wu released was surprising because this
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: is just like Lewis scene. The moment both those guys
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: get good or look good, we're like, we don't need
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: you anymore. So I wasn't surprised when it was all
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: settle about Louis scene, because I you could kind of
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: feel it that Koisi Dapamensa is not afraid to admit
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: a mistake and cut bait and move on, and there
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: was just no playing time for scene available, even if
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: he was that browns badass that we saw in the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: second preseason game. But with in wog wu with the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: NFL tweaked the kickoff return rule, We're like, sweet, we
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: have a top four fastest player in the NFL and
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: we've got this fancy new return rule. Well none of us.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Most of us weren't like, oh, that doesn't cater to
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: straight line speed. So he's going to be out Brevian
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Bain on Vikes now and he writes for Primple PTSD.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: He chirped all summer that in Wogouo could be a
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: surprise cut, and he got that right. But I was
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: surprised because this team didn't wasn't deep as hell at
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: running back, kick returner, doesn't have studs like all over
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: the roster. But they said, you know what we're done
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: with in Wanghoo because we like Miles Gaskin, and it's like, oh,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the practice squad guy from five different stints during the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season. I was surprised that they cut
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Bait within Wanghou, mainly because I thought he had won
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the RB three job. And then finally, my favorite part
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: of the roster trim down was the undrafted free agents
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: that we were like, this guy looks like a badass.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: We pounded our chest. The Athletic wrote prospect X about
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Levi Drake rod Regress. After Kyrie Jackson died, we looked
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: down at the depth chart and saw only one rookie
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: cornerback in Dwight mclotherin. It was cool that guys we
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: saw in training camp look good. They translated to the
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: end of the summer and made the regular season roster.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: So there was always a chance, like bo Richter went, where,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: oh he's gonna hit practice squad and then we'll see
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: if anything ever happens. But the fact that mclothern and
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Drake Rodriguez made the club, it shows that a we've
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: got some young steal of a deal prospects in the pipeline,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and like Levi, Drake Rodriguez looks good and you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: he looks like Videvea out there with his long hair.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: So Udfa is doing it for a second year in
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a row after Ivan Pace effectuated. You know his famous
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Instagram tweet about y'all done fed up? So I love
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: seeing I love seeing quasi a dappha mensa a tone
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: for some of his draft sins by getting these almost
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: like Miami Heat stories, the undrafted guys over and over
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that end up with the Heat deep in the playoffs.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. There were two points that
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I made before final cutdowns. I definitely predicted Bo Richter
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: would make the final fifty three. I don't know. Maybe
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: it's because he looks and I've said this on the
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: show before. It's it's not my joke, but I've stolen it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: He looks like many J. J. Watt with all the
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: arm tape and everything. Plus he also looked really good
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: when he was on the field. And the second one
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: is I I've predicted L. D. R. Levi Drake Rodriguez.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: He's gonna he will start two or three games this year,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: injury or otherwise, like he will, he will find himself
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: as a one or two to three games starter for
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. And I'm here for it. I'm excited for it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: He definitely seems like somebody. He seems like a C. J.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Ham type player that the team is gonna they'll make
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: him up. They already have in the preseason, mike him up.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: They'll they'll throw him up on a quick little YouTube
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: video when they announce another Jersey compilation or whatever. He
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: seems like somebody the ve N is going to put
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: out to the media, and I'm here for it. I'm
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: ready for it, and I'm excited that Rodriguez made the team. Evan,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: were there any any surprises or just your overall thoughts
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: on the cuts?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Well, so that's and you already mentioned Lewis scene and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: he kind of shared your feelings on that, and I
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody was really surprised that he was gone.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I think it was time for both the player and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the organization to just cut ties, move on and.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Hopefully things work out for both.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: But do you think, just looking back on these cuts,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: do you think specifically like Kenna or Jaren Haller maybe
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: another player, do you think any of those players feel
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like the Vikings kind of did them dirty, They kind
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: of the Vikings maybe should have maybe kept them around
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: for one reason or another.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Let's see so inner booth he would be part of
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: that that goal. Yeah, I mean he was traded. That's
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: his own damn fault. He never busted out. I thought
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: he played decent last year, but nobody else really agreed.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Lewis Scene, if I guess he and Theory could be
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: feel can feel like he was done dirty. But we've
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: already seen reports that his agent thought the Vikings handled
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: it with utmost class. Lewis Scene's biggest problem is not
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: that he broke his leg. It's a huge problem, but
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: it's that the Vikings don't need him right now. Like,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: are we really going to bench Josh Mattelis because we
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: want Scene to make good on his draft stock.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: No?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Are we going to tell Hipman to retire? No? So
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: it was a crowded safety room. I guess Scene in
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Theory could be a little salty, but it doesn't sound
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: like that. His agent pretty much said that the Vikings
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the way that Quasi handled these last couple of weeks
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: was pretty awesome. Jared Hall, the only reason that he
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: would have a right to think what the hell man
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: is if he was told repeatedly you could be the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: quarterback of the future. If he was told that this
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: summer like that would be a raw deal, but also
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: that'd be a straight up lie, right, Yeah, yeah, And
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I don't your team drafts a guy the highest they've
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: ever drafted a quarterback. Yeah, they're trying to pump you up.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: You got to know that's a bold face line. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And I was. I was surprised that he got cut
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: because they just drafted him like a year and four
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: six months year and four months ago, and you would
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: think he'd have the staying power to be the QB three.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: But I I was telling you guys backstage, I never
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: saw it with him that, oh my god, look how
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: good the preseason games were. I didn't see it because
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: to me, his throws always looked high or late, and
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: that's not a good mix. So whenever I got excited
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: about him, it was like, oh, this guy can be
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: a QB two. Eventually. I never said, like, you can't
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: cut Jaron Hall. But as long as the messaging was
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: clear to him, which maybe it wasn't, but he'd have
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: to be stupid not to watch this most recent draft
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and realize that he's not going to be the quarterback
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of the future. So when he got unceremoniously waived the
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: other day. It doesn't surprise me at all that he
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: latched onto the Seahawks this afternoon, because that is one
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: of the few teams in the NFL with a quarterback
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: long term situation that looks math between Geno Smith. They're
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: going to keep squeezing that story. I guess what's his name,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Sam Howell could end up being okay. But if there
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: was ever a spot besides the Raiders to latch onto
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: right now to think, hey, I'm going to show them
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I can be QB one, it would probably be the Seahawks. Ultimately,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: these guys are professionals. They shouldn't be but heard about
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: certain things, especially Hall. I mean, I guess you could
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: get a sour that JJ McCarthy was drafted, but then
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: you're not a really good teammate if you're gonna bitch
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: about that, which I don't think he did for the record.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: So the only one that I would say poor guy
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: would be Lewis Scene because all of his doldrums really
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: did start when he broke his leg, and then by
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: the time he came back, the Vikings got in a
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: big damn hurry getting good at his position. The only
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: thing about Lewis seen though, is and not to crap
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: on a guy that can't defend himself on our podcast,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Like even before he broke his leg pretty gruesomely, like
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: that that was a significant injury. That honestly that that's
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: an excuse worthy injury. But even before then, like he
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: he broke his leg on a special teams play. Yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: like he was the first round pick. Like I don't know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: he wasn't flashing before then. And obviously I'm not a coach,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not an insider. I don't know anything. But like
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: if you're throwing your first round pick out on special
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: teams what week four or five whenever that was in
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: the season, Like, this is a guy that, yeah, you're
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: developing him, but he's obviously not showing true starter potential
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: at that point, I digress, Like, yeah, he's gone, he's
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: a he's a jet now right, he's on the practice squad.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I really hope the best room. Just like Lakwan Treadwell.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I actually get excited when I see the tweet that's like, oh, hey,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Treadwell signed with the Cults, Like okay, good for him,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: our annual Treadwell. I hope he gets a thousand yard
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: receiving season or so. I think that ship and sailed
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and scene it up with the Bills. Remember he reversed
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: at the last second, he went to the Bills. Okay,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: that's news to me. Yeah he officially Mike Garofalo of
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: ESPN tweeted the Jets, which you know, fair game and riable.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: But then somehow the Bills. I think they had a
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: weaker safety room because the Damar Hamblin, who we all
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: know in love is on tap to start. We also
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: know that he isn't like really good, so I'm guessing
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: that scene can get some rotation there. Yeah. But yeah, uh,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Jaron Hall to the Seahawks, Andrew Booth to the Cowboys,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and Lewis scene to the Bills. Yeah, okay, Well, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: to your point too about Jaron Hall, I think you're
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: you hit it spot on. As far as a business decision,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Jaren Hall like, yeah, him, the Samet or the Seahawks
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: or the Raiders. As far as lucking into a QB
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: one job or playing time in general, yeah, all made
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: a good decision. Yeah. The Seahawks like, yeah, it's gonna
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: be jj McCarthy this year. It's gonna be Sam Darnold,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: you'd have to hope for a couple big injuries in
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: order to see some playing time like he did last
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: year with the Vikings. Like I think he made a
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: good business decision. And if there are Vikings fans that
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: are upset about haul to the Seahawks, find a different hobby, Like,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: there's other things to be upset about. All right, So
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: all that we just kind of wrapped up the preseason.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: We're just days away from the regular season. Some of
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: these listeners that are listening right now, maybe listening after
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: the first Chiefs Ravens game of the week one. What
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: were your overall, you know, fifty thousand feet in the
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: air thoughts on the Vikings preseason. Was there anything you'd loved,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: anything you hated, surprised by, not surprised by, You're gonna
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: check the box that Hey, I was right about this
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: one thing. What were your thoughts? So the preseason this year,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: inherently because JJ McCarthy was in the house, was the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: most exciting preseason I can remember in a decade, probably
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: last time they drafted a quarterback with especially that second
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: game because all of the undrafted guys made plays. You know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Tristian Jackson Malik Knowles to scoring touchdowns, mcmothurns was making
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I think that was a second game, wasn't it against
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: the Browns? Like there was a game, the second one
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: where all of the guys that we know and love
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: that nobody else really knows outside of the Twin Cities
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: was making plays. So that game was really exciting. We
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: have divorced the Sewn Manyon era of preseason Doldrums got
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: a hated preseason when that guy would come in, Like,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: why do we have that guy to butt in a
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: little bit? I see like a ten minute conversation between
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: you and Sewn Man. I think that would be hilarious.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I would pay per view that just a conversation, not
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: a fight, Like an conversation, that would be awesome. It'd
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: be even better to see me talk to back to
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: back coaches or general managers who keep signing this guy
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: and it has to be some connection to Kirk, like
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: they're best friends or something. But the guy was so inept.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, we can go one on one.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: So the fact that it was so exciting once and
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: for all, when when preseason used to come around, when
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Mannion was on the roster and we just knew Cousin
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: was gonna play. I'd believe on God all right after
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: the first quarter. I have to sit through and watch
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: this in case one of these guys does something cool.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: But the exciting nature of it. I did like that
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: in the first game, it seemed that O'Connell realized, God,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: we looked rusty last year against the Buccaneers. Let's give
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: these guys a driver too. And then that McCarthy moment,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: those those McCarthy forty five minutes or hour, whatever it was,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: that was certainly awesome. I liked that they switched it
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: up to try playing the starters a little bit rather
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: than the complete shutout we've sent We've seen since I
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: think the final year of the Zimmer era they started
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: resting everybody, or maybe it was the start of twenty
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: twenty two. It was an optimistic preseason that quickly became
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: pessimistic because McCarthy's meniscus was torn. I will say that
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we're gonna cover that, because I
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: haven't talked on your show about it. God, that sucked.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I would rather he played like ass in the preseason
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and then we'd be like meniscus was torn. We'd be like,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: all right, we already knew that he's not gonna be
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: very good right away. That's cool, But the fact that
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: he looked so good, he looked like Joe Burrow out there,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: like he had the same number on and then he
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: gets hurt like Joe Burrow too. It really sucks because
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: now next year we're doing this show in June and July,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: we're right back in the same damn spot, wondering if
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: jj McCarthy's gonna be any good. Twenty twenty five is
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: gonna be like this, Hey, hopefully we're eight nine, nine
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: and eight type of year because McCarthy will get zero
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: playing time in the preseason during this uh this season,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: excuse me, So it's to me, I understand, Like, the
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: good part about is that it's only a meniscus. I've
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: never heard, oh hey, Joe Evans tours meniscus. We never
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: saw him again. I've never heard anybody say that. So
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: it's cool that it was a minor, somewhat injury. But
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I was telling a couple of people in the past
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: few weeks that when I was I was on vacation
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: when the McCarthy little saga played out, like, hey, he's
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: banged up a little bit when he's gonna be fine.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we're having a press conference. We have
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: to wait two hours to figure out what they're gonna say.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: It was the first time, I think it was a Tuesday.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: It was the first time all summer, or all spring
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: and summer that I have been like, okay, I have
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: to get behind Sam Donald. I didn't give a shit
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: about Sam Donald until that Tuesday because to me, he
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: was the quintessential bridge quarterback, the quintessential patch over quarterback.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: It didn't matter to me at all how Sam Darnald
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: played while McCarthy was waiting in the wings. Because McCarthy
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: looks so good in the summer. All right, we're probably
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: gonna see this guy in October, November, maybe December. It
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter to me what McCarthy does now. If I
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: want to, you know, remain the lifelong ardent fan that
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I am, I had to like do introspective and say,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: all right, I have to start believing in all these
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Donald takes that he can be Geno Smith, he can
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: be Baker Mayfield. Because that's what you do in sports.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: You find little nooks and crannies to find hope and
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: excitement I mean that's why if the Vikings are two
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: and six in a season, you're still crunching playoff scenarios,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: all right. If they win these next two, then they
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: get hot. Yeah, And and I do that right along
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: there with the rest of you. So that was the
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: first time in it would have been five months that
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I've ever looked down at the depth chart and been like,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: all right, so Sam, Darnald, it is, let's do this.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Up until that Tuesday, I'd been like, God, who cares
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: what he does? And now I'm right there with you
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: that I have to find that positivity, that Donald positivity. Yeah,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. There was probably a solid one
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: or two days where leading up to the School Hot podcast,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: like I almost wanted to text seven and be like,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: we just need to not do the next week. I'm
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: so grim and dark about this team right now over
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the second string quarterback, Like, yeah, yes, McCarthy's the future
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: and we know that. But realistically, no matter what, Darnald
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: was gonna start against the Giants. I mean I think
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: totally me and probably everybody else was hoping McCarthy would
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: pull a Russell Wilson and eat out, and it looked
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: like he might have been on his way. Yeah, and
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: he looked so freaking good. It reminded me of Bridgewater
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: against the Chargers in the preseason, minutes before his knee
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: decided to not exist anymore.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: It was heartbreaking and totally Vikings of McCarthy's need to
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Oh I got, didn't grate. I got one more thing
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: on this topic. So Janic Eckhart, who was the editor
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: of Purple PTSD as a sister site to Vikings Territory,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: for those maybe I said this on the last year,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: you guys have to let me know. Maybe I did.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: For training camp and pretty much all of training camp,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: he and I were messaging back and forth like what
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: this is too good to be true? Like we kept saying, like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: what's going on here? Like everything we saw from McCarthy
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: was sweet. It was I mean, the leadership was there.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: He knows how to use a microphone, he knows how
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: to throw the ball, like everything was so awesome. And
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I kept saying to you onik like when is the
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: other shoe gonna drop? Like when's the scandal gonna happen?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not used to this good fortune quarterback for the Vikings.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: And then the miniscous thing, and we were both were like, yep,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: there it is. That's why this feeling was so foreign. Yeah,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: it's there's no, there's nothing. I know. There's a lot
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: of folks that tried to dress it up and so hey,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be the QB two anyways, and I get that,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: but just to make myself feel yeah, but there was
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: no way. I mean, unless we get to next or
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: we get to Sunday and macar Darnold just starts looking
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: like a baller and it persists through a mon then
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: maybe that's right. God, it sucks, and it pisses me
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: off every time I think about, you know what you
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: talked about, we should we should just not do the show.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: There's no, there's nothing wrong with that. When the Vikings lose,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: especially one that's like really they lost that. I come
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: back to this desk and I was like, I don't
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: want to write about this ship. I'm gonna take a
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: nap and then I'm gonna come back and I'll think
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: about I don't know if you can with you. I'm like,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I don't want anything to write about this garbage. Yeah,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: because this is your this is your day job, man,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Like I yeah, yeah, I get to go look at
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: it purchases for the government. Like, I could totally walk
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: out the Vikings if I want to do. I don't
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: have to write three thousand words on JJ McCarthy's knee
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: breaking if I wanted to. But I don't have to. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I feel for you.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I got a bonus question for you here, Dustin. It
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't one that we initially sent you earlier, but the
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Vikings made after releasing Jaron with those initial fifty three
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: man roster cuts, they signed another quarterback. What are your
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: thoughts on Brett Rippon from the Bears?
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: So not? I guess they're indifferent, Like because we went
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: through a season last year where we learned the value
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: lack there of a QB three, So because we went
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: through the carousel last year, I understand that they want
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: somebody who's a game, right. It's really weird how the
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: mcveigh's and the Shanahans and now the O'Connell's recycle the
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: same guys. They're like, hey, no, this guy fits in
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: my system. So it's cool that McVeigh trusted him for
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: however long in his com It's funny that his comp
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: is Nick Mullens. It just shows you that Kevin O'Connell
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: kind of has a type. I mean, it doesn't. It
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't make me think like, ooh, if things go bad,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: we've got Brett Rippon. I don't really want a quarterback
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: carousel season. I really, for the life of me, hope
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: that Darnold is thirty six hundred passing yards, twenty five touchdowns,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: probably his usual fourteen interceptions. Just keep it like that
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: and then I don't have to write every week about Hey,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be mullins or ripping like that is Vikings
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: football when I was a teenager between Sage Rosenfeldts and
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Gus Faratt, those teams, remember those teams, like you don't
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: know if Tarvaris Jackson was gonna start, Kelly Holcomb was
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: going to start that week. I hate those those days.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do about it now because McCarthy's hurt.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: So Brett Rippin, I guess I understand why they would
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: trust him a little bit more than Jaren Hall. Brett
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Rippin's thing is his footwork is there and he's pretty accurate,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: but he's not mobile and he doesn't have a big arm,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: so it would basically be kind of you know under
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: underneath ball. No, I'm not a big bread, ripping guy,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: but I also wasn't a Jaron Hall guy. So why
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: not at QB three and get him in house now
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: so we don't have to do the Dobbs thing where
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: you're calling plays in the huddle and he has to
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: learn them on the fly. But it worked against the
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: outco in the first half against the Science, Yeah, yeah,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: we had a magical four quarters between two games, and
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: yeah there is Well get him a nickname of the past.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: You're not now he's having a he had a magical preseason.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's doing what he did to us. To
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers fan, they're like, are we sure
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: that he's not better than Brockporty. That's the litmus test
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: for backup quarterbacks and we saw it all the time
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: last year is they usually come in and they look
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: really good and you're like, how is this guy a backup?
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Within two weeks or three weeks they turned back into
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: a pumpkin a because they were never that good in
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: the first place, and then b defensive coordinators have figured
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: them out. It always comes down to this is kind
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: of Teddy Bridgewaters problem, not that he's like shitty or anything.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It's that if you can't be surgical outside the numbers,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: then you're not going to be a top fifteen quarterback.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Like Josh Dobbs, we learned somewhat quickly, like his m
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: was kind of the playground football. I'm gonna tuck it
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: and run and I can juke you. But if you
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: need him to throw something surgical to the side, that's
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: not his game. And I think I personally think that's
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: why Bridgewater didn't catch on as a like a consistent starter,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: is because he could throw it like he Bridgewater curiously
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: would never really throw it to wide receivers. It was
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: always two tight ends and running backs inside yeah, inside
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: the Yeah, that's that's that's what backup quarterbacks do. So
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I digress, What do we got next? Well to that
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: point too, I always argue Nick Mullins is an elite
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: NFL player. It's just his position is QB two, Like
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: that's the thing. Like he he is the guy you
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: want to come in when Kirk Cousin pops his achilles,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: like he is the guy that fit. I haven't taken
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: but two starter reps in practice all week. I can
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: throw it like Nick Mullins is the QB two. He
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: could be a Hall of Fame QB two. It's just
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: that's a terrible idea. Yeah, you know, you don't pick
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: that guy. Anyways, we we we've got more.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: We've got one final question here.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I might have one more, but go for it.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Go well.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Uh so we're coming up on week one. I think
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: we're all added for football to finally be back. We
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: got a little taste of it with college football this
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: last weekend, which was a lot of fun games. Right now,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the Vikings are currently favored. Barely that switched, did it really?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I just looked around lunchtime today.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Back in back in June, it was one point
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: to the Giants. In the last month it became a
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: pick them even. And then I saw somebody tweet that
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: the Vikings were favored, and I was like, oh, that's new.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah yeah.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so currently the Vikings are favored. What are
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: your thoughts? Are they going to win, they're gonna lose?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Is it going to be a slim margin? Is it
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be a bigger victory or a bigger loss?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, so notably, if you guys care, this is the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: first time I've been asked this, I haven't written it
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: yet and I haven't answered the question. Yes, I do
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: think that they will win. Not because I'm a Homer.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I think that the roster that the Vikings have, if
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: you can get over the underwhelming defensive tackle spot, if
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: you personally trust Stefan gilmour Byron Murphy and Chat Griffin
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: as respectable cornerbacks, and then you can get behind a
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: competent Sam Donald. I don't think beating the Giants is
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: that huge of a task. Their defensive line is fat, fantastic.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Every time I start to think about this game, I'm like,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: oh God, they got those three guys, Dexter, Lawrence Kevon
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Thibodau and now Brian Burns you probably saw in hard
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Knocks yet. So the key to this game will the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: be the Vikings getting to Daniel Jones, those blitz packages working,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: and then every game this season is going to come
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: down to whether or not the Vikings protect the football.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: If Sam Donald is acting like Sam Donald and throwing
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: interceptions and fumbling, then yes, the team's going to be
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: five and twelve, six and eleven. The only knock on
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald through these six seasons is the turnovers. He
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: still has the arm. Never he never didn't have the arm.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: But I do think they will win this game because
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: they have that. It's almost like a must win already,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: because after this game, not that they think that, oh
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: my god, what we're gonna do when we play the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: forty nine Ers and Texans and all these guys. But
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: I think they're flatly the roster is flatly better than
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: the Giants. This puts a lot of onus on Sam
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Donald to be good or at least not turn the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: ball over. But I do think that they have a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Vikings have a superior roster. But I don't think it's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: going to be a slaughterhouse, nor do I think it's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: going to be very pretty. I can't really remember a
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: whole lot of Vikings games week one where you're like,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: oh boy, they look great. They always look a little rusty.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say the Vikings win this one, probably
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty or so. And I'm not overly confident,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: like my team is so awesome, But I do think
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: that there's something about this game. Sam Darnold played, However,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: many games in that very building, and then I go
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: back to stupid superstitious stuff, like before Jordan Addison got
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: arrested and all that, somebody was talking shit on his
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: on Instagram and they were like, hey, the Giants are
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: gonna beat Joe ass week one. He's like, yeah, you
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: want to bet? I always remember little stuff like that,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: and he turned internalize it. This is before, like I said,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Addison became't turned into the naughty guy again. Yeah, I'll
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: take the Vikings twenty four to twenty, but I won't
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: be surprised one iota if they get beat like thirty
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: one to ten or something like that. And I think
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: we'd both tend to agree with everything you just said.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we were both we have. I mean,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: we predicted a victory, both of us did. And we
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: started a new segment on our podcast where we will
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: punish ourselves if we are incorrect in our predictions. So
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: like asu Fan not quite like that. We're gonna like
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: eat a Hobin arrow or we'll do something like do
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: the podcast blindfolded if if we are incorrect in our predictions.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you didn't say anything we don't
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: both totally agree with. I really think and I know
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I drink the purple kool aid I am the definition
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: of a Vikings homer, and I know that, but I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: really think Sam Darnold, this has gotta be his best
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: opportunity to be good, Like when the Jets drafted him,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: what third overall like, I feel like this is the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: best environment for him to be that third overall pick.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's gonna throw for six thousand yards
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: and one hundred touchdowns, but dang, he's like actually good
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: and the Vikings are a good surrounding cast. And for
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: that reason, that's why I predict him, not just the Vikings,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: but him to beat the Giants. I don't know. I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: know I'm drinking the purple kool aid and I'm crazy,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: but I can't. I can't otherwise. My so, my, my
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Darnald internal thoughts are twofold, and I think I've said
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: before on your show. My first little theory, so I'll
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: make it quick. It is Vikings football for the veteran
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: that maybe underperformed at several other stops. Randall Cunningham, Jeff George,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Sam Bradford. It's the Viking way for guy to come
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: in and we're like, aha, he is good now. Usually
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: the only lasts for a year or two. That's all
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: we need. Uh So, I've seen it over and over
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: in my life as a Vikings fan, where the guy
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: that they bring in they squeeze the talent and prime
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: out of him and we get really excited about it.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: That is where I kept thinking that why would this
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: time be any different? The devil on my shoulder says,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: this dude has been in the league for six seasons, Like, like,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: why why does it take this long for him to
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: show up to be good? You'd have to blame everything
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: else that's not Sam Darnold to fully invest in this
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: breakout season now, is it possible? Maybe he hasn't had
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: weaponry like this, But we're talking about a quarterback who's
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: gone through six seasons, not like Trey Lance who's been
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: misunderstood for three or whatever. That's my only hesitation as to,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: you know, is it How is it gonna be that
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: six general man or not six six years worth of
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: head coaches got this wrong. That's the only thing I'm
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: hesitating on. Ultimately, I think the Vikings will finish about
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: seven and ten. Their defense will be their signature. That's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: I think. By the time we get to October, blah blah, blah.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: October eleventh, my birthday. I think we're gonna be like,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: holy crap, this defense is pretty good now. When I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: when I say stuff like that, you're like, but you
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: only pick seven to ten. The schedule is murderous. The
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: NFC North, there's not a bad team in it anymore.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: When two seasons ago, everybody the Viers. Let's also, yeah, no,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: they they've played fantasy football. I'm I'm really sorry to
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: just totally trounce on your on your your point there.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: The Bears are a bad team. They won't win more
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: than a good game. That's what I liked. This is
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: on the internet. The Bears are bad anyways, please keep going.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: That's what I like to hear. I'm trying to think
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: if there was another. Oh yeah, my other, my other,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: my other bull prediction. This is out in the digital stratosphere,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: and this is really random. One of my bull predictions
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: is that Blake Brandell is going to be a baller,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: and not because I've sat there and watched a bunch
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: of tape tape of him from the moment we hit
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: the off season. The Vikings coaching staff said, this is
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: our left guard, and guys like you and me were like,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: are you sure, aren't you bringing Dalton Reisner back? Maybe
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: they're going to draft a guard. They have been steadfast
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: that he is the guy all along, and Kevin O'Connell's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: coaching staff should have earned our trust on the offensive
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: line unlike the previous one. We should trust their solutions.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: So the fact that Brandle was the guy immediately three years,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: nine and a half million whatever it was, he was
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: placed at left guard. They ultimately re signed Reisner, I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: guess for death but said, bitch, you're not playing left guard.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: You're gonna be the right guard. Like they flat out
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: told that guy who's been the NFL so at the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen don't even think about playing left guard. And
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: for Blake Brandle to have that type of clout suggests
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: to me that he's gonna be good. So when I
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: say good, I bet you. We look down December thirty first,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: and Brandal's PFF is like seventy three, seventy four, seventy five.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: That is one of my bold takes. Yes, did I
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: answer that question? I yeah, it was about the Giants
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: win or the Giants game? Can the Vikings win? I think,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: oh boy, yeah, I spiral it off then my fault. Well,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: you reminded me. We could have gone off of your
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: point for like three or four more episodes of this podcast. Yeah,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I will say you reminded me everything you said about
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Sam Donold, like why can't he be good? Like why
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: why does he suck? Why can't he turn it around
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: and be actually good for the Bikings? Like we all
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: hope everything you said people were saying about Baker Mayfield
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: twelve months ago. Yeah, literally that's really true. And I know, yeah, Okay,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: it happened one time. That doesn't mean Sam Donald's going
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: to do it for the Vikings. I feel like Sam
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Donald's got all the tools, he's just never had a chance.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Between injury and coaching, firings and trading, he's never had
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: a chance. My only beef with that, But I mean
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: I fully bought by into the argument. But for the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: sake of argument, Baker Mayfield was good once upon a time.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Like once upon a time, he was the big thing
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: in Cleveland. They won the playoff game. He was throwing
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: what twenty five touchdowns? We never had that from Sam
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: If we had that one year or whatever, I would
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, he can reclaim it. That's My only
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: hesitation to jump in with this two feet is the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: fact that we haven't seen it from Donald yet. But
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: the good news is we're only days away from figuring
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: out if it's if it's true. And the argument to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: that is, you know, we were We watched Sam Bradford
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: light it up against the same and look like, you know,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: a world record beater and a Super Bowl MVP quarterback
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: in Week one, and then all of a sudden he
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: had knee soreness and goes out the rest of the season.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: So that's that's the reason those words knee soreness always
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: always terrifies me. Evan, is there anything else? I do
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: have one more question, but I think you might know
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: my next question. Is there anything else for Dustin you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: can think of?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: No, I think you should ask your last question.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: All right, Dustin, every Vikings fan in the world reddit
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: in the last week, what are your thoughts on this
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: whole Star Tribune Mike Zimmer article that came out in
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: the last few days. So I woke up to it.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: I notoriously get up late on weekends. Now that my
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: kids are old enough to see then, yep, and they
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: don't need like constant supervision I woke up and read it,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: and my first instinct was, I hope I never get
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: like this, uh for real, for real, as a as
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: a dad, as a husband, and then what fifteen twenty
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: years now, Grandpa, I never want to be that mean, stubborn, unaccountable,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: and that was that was my first takeaway. Is like
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: nobody ever taught him that, you know, you just it's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of power in saying I messed up,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I made the wrong mistake. Here they're like, it's actually
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: a real great process to do that, to say I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: made a mistake, and you confess to your cowork or
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: your boss, your wife, your mom, how can we fix this?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: How can I do better? But there's zero of that
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: from like Zimmer now in my I'm forty years old,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I've dealt with men like this for a long time,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: as I'm sure you have, where you just have to
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: kind of accept that they're going to be a prick
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: from time to time. That's what their generation to. The
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: thing that rubbed me the worst was how mind blowing
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: or boggling it was to Zimmer that he would entertain
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: saying goodbye to his teammates because they got him fired.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: And I can't believe that a leader for eight years,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't say, you wouldn't think, well, you know what,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: I love a lot of these guys. I will at
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: least go in there give one of my weird speeches
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: that he evidently gave, but he didn't even do that.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: And then the other thing that I felt genuine sadness
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: for was when he talked about the death of his
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: son from alcoholism, like what about it two years ago?
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: He said, my son couldn't find a job because I
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: got fired, and it all like, I feel bad that
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: he evidently blames the Vikings or his players, because he
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: already said that it surely wasn't his fault that he
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: was fired. It makes me sad for to know that
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: he had like it is on tap on top of
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: the sadness of losing the kid, he has this jaded
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: vision about why his son couldn't get a job is
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: because his dad got fired. And as an alcoholic myself,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: coming up on twelve years of recovery, like when Adam
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Zimmer died, it really hit home. He was in his
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: thirties and that's when I got lucky enough to get sober,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: So that stuck a little bit of a chord on
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: a lack of a serious note, seeing the rumor mill
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: all inside there was fantastic knowing that the Justin Field
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: rumors were true, knowing that he didn't like Callen Maud,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I guess never even talked to the guy. We basically, yeah,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: we knew that Zimmer and Spielman things weren't joyous in
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: that twenty twenty one season, but it was worse than
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: we could have even imagined. There were some on social
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: media that still loved Zimmer's honesty and that a boy
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: he is Bill Parcell's to the tea. Like folks that
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: grew up in my generation loved, watched experienced Parcel, this
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: is the same damn things like they're You're always just
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: prickish to a fault. It's always the other guy's fault.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: The reason Zimmer got away with it and so to
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: part ourselves is because generally speaking, they're winners and nobody
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: really cares if you're a mean guy when you're winning.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: But I will maintain my positive view of Zimmer from
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: those those fun seasons because I never want to just
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: wholesale indict somebody. But I hope that I never have
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: to hear any of my descendants look back and be like, yeah,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: that that ball guy was a prick man. I never Yeah,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: I could never get a RT word in edgewise with him.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: What a legas, what a shitty legacy that would be. Yeah. Now,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: I do have to admit, on this very episode, just
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: a handful of minutes ago, I did give my fifty
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: thousand feet overview of this article, and I did say,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: like I kind of came away with maybe a positive
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: thought process on Zimo. That's okay, I think, and not
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: to just blatantly be like Dustin, you're wrong. I do think, yes,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: he feels jaded anyone who's ever fired from their job
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: because he wasn't just let go he was. I mean,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: he was fired, just like every NFL player that's cut,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: they're fired. I think of Pat Anger from the Colts.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I've heard him speak like, yeah, I played for the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Colts and they just they fired me. They hated me,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: you know whatever. Anyways, Mike Zimmer was fired, and how
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: could you not be zated or jaded from being let
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: go from your job? I do think I think I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: got not that I agree with every word he said,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: or I totally think he's in the right totally on
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: every thought process, but I think I got more in
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: the mindset of what he was thinking. Yeah, and I
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: think I could agree that to him. In his mindset,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: he doesn't think he deserved to be fired me Austin
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: a podcast host that three people listen to every week.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: It's plain his day. Yeah, Zimmer should not continue it
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: to have been the Vikings head coach, you know, like
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: he needed to be fired. It's plain and clear he
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: he had overstayed his welcome as the head football coach
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: of the Vikings and they needed to go in this
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: different direction. But it was that article was interesting to
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: me to hear his thought process and hear why he
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: thought he was fired and his reaction to being fired.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: And it seems, which I think is the whole fluff
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: version of this, this article, it seems like his life
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: and he is better for it now and he's happier now.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Although yeah, I think he was at the time very
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: jaded and very much Yeah, it's I didn't do anything wrong,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: they got me fired. Like that was direct quote from him, Like, yeah,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: he has a he has a differing reality. Then I think,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: what somebody, I'll give you one example of when somebody's
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: reality was different. I can't believe when I look back.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty one, my good friend who started
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Viking's Territory or bought it and built it. He passed
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: away in the summer of twenty twenty one, and I
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: got to know a lot of his circle after that
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: because he knew a lot of Vikings themed writers and analysts.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: And I was making a really good money on the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Viking's Territory at the time, and there was about two
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: weeks where I didn't know if the website was going
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: to keep going because I didn't know Joe's family. Yeah,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: so I was reaching out to folks who wanted to
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: know what happened to Joe and I knew, so I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: was giving them kind of the version that the family
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: would let me get out. And there was one writer
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: that I a prominent Twin Cities writer that we talked
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: for about forty five minutes one night, and I said, Hey,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm thinking about doing this full time.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: It sounds like the site's gonna stay afloat and I
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: make a lot of good money doing them.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: He's like, sir, He's like, listen to me. He's like,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: I've written for thirty years. He was like, you do
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: not want to do this time because you'll lose your
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: passion for it it becomes a job. He's like, if
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: there's one bit of advice, He's like, you do not
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: want to do writing as your job, especially about a
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: sports team. And I really thought about that, and it
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: kind of delayed me pulling the trigger on going, you know,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: explaining to my wife, like I want to do this
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: full time. Here's my tax return that shows that this
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: is a good thing. And ultimately I took his advice
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: and threw it in the garbage about seven months later,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: and I make like double the amount of money I
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: make that I did at my other job, and I
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: almost every other day I think back about how terrible
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: advice that was for me. That was probably great advice
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: for him, but for me, like an obsessive personality, I
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: love writing every single day. I don't get sick of it,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: and I often think, and this is that differing reality.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Like he in his heart of hearts, he was doing
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: a solid by telling somebody you don't want to get
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: into a career of writing. It becomes mundane. You're right
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: about the same thing. But to me, it was the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: most laughable advice I've ever received, because I would still
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: be stuck at some regular job and I have to
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: write about the vikings like late at night, and I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: think about it so frequently that I'm living the realistic
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: version of a dream job. For me, my dream job
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: would be to be a general manager of a basketball team,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: but I'm probably never going to do that, So one
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: of the closest thing I can do is use my
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: talent to write about football. And yeah, it's his reality,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: told him something, but mine is so damn different than that.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: That's what made me think of when when you said
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: you respected the Zimmer like his mindset was I'm getting
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: hell out of here because they don't want me here.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Of course that's how we felt. I just hope that
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: I never adapt that way. Well, and maybe Zimmer, if
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: he was truthfully honest, would have that same mindset of like, hey,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: if you love football, don't ever make it your head
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: coach like it, don't ever make it your job, because
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: it'll eventually get fired, even if you are a good coach,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: and you'll hate it anyways. Like I think in the article,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: he says something like other people convinced me to get
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: back into coaching because honestly, I Mike Zimmer. I thought
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I was a lousy coach because I got fired. But no,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: I need to prove you know, the vikings and just
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: the coaching world wrong and prove that I am a
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: good coach. I could see if Mike Zimmer had that
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: thought process, like, hey, don't ever make it your livelihood
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: because you'll just get hurt. Yeah, the guy is resilient.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: The guy is resilient as hell. Losing his wife. However,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: many years ago he had that eye thing. I don't
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: know if that was ever completely resolved. Then his son died.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: The guy is indestructible, and a lot of that probably
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: has to do with that tough as nails persona. Yeah,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: either way, I think that Mark Craig Star Tribute article
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: is a good read. I wouldn't I would encourage people
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: to go seek that out and try to find it.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: I hate when when papers or sites put a pay
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: one all behind their stuff because it can just find
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: it anyways. But I think Star Tribune has a paywall,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: but you can find anyways. It's a good read. Not
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: as good as most things on Viking's territory, but hey,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: as we can, as we conclude. I'm turning the tables
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: on you bitches. We'll probably talk like a month from now,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: So tell me the Vikings record. Bye, let's see end
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: of week five. All right, we have to be true
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: to ourselves. Okay, we made our picks three four ish
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: episodes ago, and I think we made these picks before
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: JJ got injured. Oh really, Oh yeah, that's kind of irrelevant,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: you know, making it's all an asterix. You know. We
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: can all right, but up to the bye. The bye
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: is week six, okay, so they will have played five
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: weeks five games by October sixth. I have them with
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: a three and two record. Wow. And I take the inverse.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go two and three.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: I think they bookends that stretch with wins and then
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: the three games in the middle they lose.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, they beat the New York teams, correct, yep. I
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: also have a final record of eleven and six. Holy Yes,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: that was before the JJ injury. I'm sticking to it.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to hold my guns. And I'm asked every week.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: I I and it's our slack channel. I ask all
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: of the writers one opinion question about Hey, what's your
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Bowl prediction for the Vikings. Hey, who's the who's the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: draft pick going to be? And so this week we
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: got to obligatory win loss and if you wrote for
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Vikings territory, sir, yours would have been the highest. The
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: highest one we had was ten and seven. If you
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: ever need a homer to write some I'm not joking,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: reach out to me. I will make every Vikings fan
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: feel like we're about to win the super Bowl. We
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: had we had one week. When was it, I think
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: it was in December or something. So the guy that
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: passed away I told you about, his sister and husband
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: took over the site and run it in the background,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: and they put a message out to us one time
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: that hey, there's some Facebook commenters that say that the
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: site's tone is too negative right now. And I was like,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: we just got our asses beat by the packers. I'm
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: not gonna spin this positively now.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you and be like, hey, man, what
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: do you got for this disaster? And you could be
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: our spind department. I will spin anything could get rolled
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: over by a steamroller, and I will find the silver
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: lining in that. I promise you. I'll give you a one
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: thousand words on why koc being run over by a steamrollers.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: Actually what's funny though, is Austin's usually the pessimist and
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm usually the optimist.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he's a better liar than you, is
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: what it is, exactly better salesman. Yeah, all right, Evan,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: you got anything else?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: No, I enjoyed this.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can tell you can tell the energy
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: on this show other shows in general. You can tell
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: when football is back based on the energy you have
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: on your show, like everything, you know, three weeks from
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: now when the yeah, you know, no, but it's it's
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: having the sport back like there were there were nights
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  Speaker 2: in June. I'm like, all right, let's get the bikes
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: now going, and you're like, let's talk about Hunter Renfro again.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he'll sign after we record this up. And it's
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: the same ship over and over. But now you can yeah,
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  Speaker 2: now you can feel it when football is this close.
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  Speaker 2: Just the palpable energy that we had here tonight. So
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  Speaker 2: all right, you guys hit me up. Probably that sounds
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: like an invitation to probably right before the Jets game. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: at least at least every month, we're looking at the
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  Speaker 2: first week of the month. Hey, before we let you
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  Speaker 2: go plug anything you want to plug. I know, last
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  Speaker 2: time you're on you were talking about an up and
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  Speaker 2: coming website. Yeah, looks at draft prospects but also keeps
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: going with them. Yeah, that and anything else? What else? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we got that off the ground officially about a week
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  Speaker 2: and a half ago. It's draft huddle dot Com. Yani
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: and I are the gurus, if you will, the owners,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: and yeah, our mission is to of course cover the
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  Speaker 2: draft from January until April. But in our opinion, all
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: of the cool sites like Draft Network, like NFL Draft Buzz,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: once the draft's over, we don't give a shit about
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: the rookies anymore, and we wanted to change that. We
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: want to track the rookies and how either our projections
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: or the world's projections, how it translates over to the
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  Speaker 2: rookie season. So it would have been a great year
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  Speaker 2: to cover JJ McCarthy or pretty much any quarterback in
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: this class. So draft huddle dot Com and then my
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: my co workers are always so cool. Janick Eckhart is
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: the boss over at Purple PTSD at Vikings Territory. Adam
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: new writs a few things per week. Ted Schwarzler, a
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: big Twins guy. He writes, We have Josh Fry who's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: still in the mix. We have a good pool of takes,
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  Speaker 2: whether you know, there's there's some that might be more pessimistic,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: and then like you, who's a positive, positive all the time.
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  Speaker 2: We try to get the best the best flavor, and
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: I'm Yanak and I always try to stay right in
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: the middle. And then you know, teeter towards getting excited
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  Speaker 2: when when things are good. So thank you for the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to plug those things and we'll talk to you
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  Speaker 2: guys in about a month.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we had a we had a good
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  Speaker 1: conversation with Dustin there, fun that was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Dustin, if you're listening right now, and I'd probably just
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: told this to you a few minutes ago, we'd we'd
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  Speaker 2: love to have you on anytime you ever want to
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: come on. You're You're great, You're only awesome to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: We're super fortunate to be able to do that once
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: a month with Dustin. It's been awesome and we're looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to continuing that trend for.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, and listeners, followers, watchers, whatever, if for some crazy
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: reason you're you're watching us and following us, and you're
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: not already following Dustin Baker or Vikes Now or Viking
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  Speaker 2: Territory dot com. Please go go follow all of those
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: things everywhere you can. Dustin Baker is a fantastic Vikings
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: content creator. On Twitter alone, he'll tweet out some like
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: really entertaining stats about like, hey, yeah, Vikings kicker hasn't
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: kicked a fifty five yard field goal with two seconds
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: left since nineteen seventy two. You know, He'll brow out
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: these awesome stats and they're always like, oh wow, that's
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: really entertaining. Please follow Dustin Baker and all of his
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: escapades everywhere else. He's awesome, definitely worth the follow. You
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: recommended him to me on Twitter. I started following him,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: and I just feel like I'm like way smarter as
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: a Vikings fan because of him. He's not like condescending,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: He's not I don't know how many times would we
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: talk to him. I don't know his like political views,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything. Like, he doesn't try to push
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: anything an he's just on Twitter or anywhere else. He
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: just talks about the Vikings and it's entertaining and it's
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: awesome and please follow him.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's amazing. Worth a follower.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: What do you think of this newer brewery that we're
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: trying out, Keg Creek Brewing and their Midwest hayes ipa.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like I want to drink like thirty more
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: of these, you know, over the course of an appropriate
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: amount of time. This beer, Like, it's good, this hazy ipa.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: There's nothing that's like, oh, that's the best of all time,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: but it's just solid. It's it's amazing. Like I want
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: to drink, like I said, like thirty more just to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: get my thought process and my evaluation totally on point,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: to be like, this is exactly why you need to
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: drink these because if you like hazy IPAs, I will
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: love this beer. And Evan, you're not a hazy ipa lover,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: you'll drink them and that's you can enjoy a nice one.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: It's good. I say this all the time. I like
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: a beer that doesn't try to do too much. Yeah,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: and I think this is one of those.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: Especially in that hazy ipa category, you get a lot
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: of these beers that are like, ah, we're gonna throw
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: in this crazy flavor, or we're gonna mix in like
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: twelve different kinds of hops, and some of those beers
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: are like, yeah, they're good for one or two, but
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: like this beer.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. I could have several of these.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: I could enjoy a twelve pack.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Over a long weekend or something like that and not
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: get tired of them because they're not trying to do
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: too much.
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  Speaker 3: They're just they're well rounded, they're balanced, they're easy drinking.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: And we just taste good. Yeah, and please correct me
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I think both of us just on
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: drinking this one beer. If we ever saw Keg Creek
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  Speaker 2: Brewing logo on any other beer, we would absolutely try it,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: even if it's a variety of beer we don't normally.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: If they put out a sour and I'm not a
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: sour guy, if they put out a sour, which they
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: probably do they're a brewing company, I would absolutely grab
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: it because I mean, this one beer lets me know
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: they put out good products. They did my favorite kind
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: of beer perfectly and I like it a lot. And
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Keg Creek, thank you for making this. If you want
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: to be the official beer of the Skullhop, let us know.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: I think both of us would gladly do that. You listeners, watchers,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: you may see a few Keg Creek Brewing beers on
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: the show you in the near future.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Like you said, crazy, you said that they have an amber,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: So I said, I will find that amber and we
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: will have it on the show What's going to Happen
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: at our favorite local high v There were three Keg
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  Speaker 1: Creek Brewing beers and we're trying one of them.
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  Speaker 2: The other one was the Amber, and I've said it
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: a few times. I can't remember what the third one is,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I would happily drink any of them.
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  Speaker 3: Here you go.
• 1:31:11
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• 1:31:14
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• 1:31:21
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• 1:31:27
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• 1:31:31
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• 1:31:32
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• 1:31:59
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• 1:32:05
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• 1:32:07
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• 1:32:35
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are some some people that are sick like me,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: and they watch injury videos, sports injury videos, and I
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: the second I see like a sports injury happen on TV,
• 1:33:13
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• 1:33:18
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• 1:33:24
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• 1:33:29
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• 1:33:33
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• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: skull Hop, and we have all of our other podcast
• 1:33:40
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• 1:33:43
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• 1:33:49
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• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: We're everywhere. That's the point.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: And uh, we like good beer and this was a
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: good beer and would definitely have it again, and I will.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: I will seek out Keg Creek for sure. It's there.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: It's stuff.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long they've been at High Ve,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: but it's got to be recent because I've never seen
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: them before today.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: So well, next week we're going to be sitting in
• 1:34:15
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  Speaker 3: Game hopefully of victory, but until then, best episode yet
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