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- 0:10Speaker 1: He's the report.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
- 0:14Speaker 2: James Macpherson filling in for Andrew Bolt. Here's what's coming
- 0:17Speaker 2: up tonight. The Left's love for violence knows no limits
- 0:21Speaker 2: as Trump survives a third assassination attempt. Former White House
- 0:25Speaker 2: Press Secretary Sean Spice will join me to discuss that
- 0:28Speaker 2: and more. For isis bride to trying to return to
- 0:31Speaker 2: Australia as the Albanezy government plays dumb on their arrival.
- 0:35Speaker 2: My panel will unpack that along with the day's top headlines.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Plus Greg Sheridan from The Australian will have the latest
- 0:40Speaker 2: on the Middle East peace deal negotiations. And the Iranian
- 0:43Speaker 2: embassy in Australia is trying to enlist people in Martyrdom.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Why hasn't the Albaneze government shut the embassy down. We'll
- 0:51Speaker 2: get to all of that shortly, but first, yesterday was
- 0:54Speaker 2: the third time in two years that it would be
- 0:57Speaker 2: assassin has tried to murder US President Donald Trump. In
- 1:00Speaker 2: July twenty twenty four, Thomas Matthew Crooks shot at Trump,
- 1:04Speaker 2: striking him in the ear. A couple of months later,
- 1:07Speaker 2: in September, Ryan Wesley Ruth was found allegedly lurking outside
- 1:11Speaker 2: Trump's golf course with a semi automatic rifle, and, of course,
- 1:15Speaker 2: yesterday called Thomas Allen allegedly stormed the Washington hotel where
- 1:19Speaker 2: Trump was due to speak, brandishing guns and knives, which
- 1:23Speaker 2: is generally considered an unsubtle approach to political disagreement. Now,
- 1:28Speaker 2: one assassination attempt, you might put it down to a
- 1:30Speaker 2: crazy person acting like a crazy person. Two assassination attempts, well,
- 1:35Speaker 2: that ain't good. But three starts to look like a
- 1:39Speaker 2: trend drawing itself in permanent marker. I can't imagine what's
- 1:43Speaker 2: inspiring it, can you?
- 1:47Speaker 3: Is a fascist?
- 1:49Speaker 4: I believe Trump and mago extremism are the greatest threat
- 1:51Speaker 4: to American democracy and values.
- 1:53Speaker 5: What's happening right now with the administration is a huge threat.
- 1:57Speaker 4: The stashist administration didn't come from anywhere.
- 2:00Speaker 2: The seeds, well, someone's sure been planting seeds, haven't they.
- 2:06Speaker 2: But naturally at this point, Democrats and their media allies,
- 2:09Speaker 2: but what's the difference are reportedly left scratching their heads
- 2:13Speaker 2: wondering aloud what could possibly motivate anyone to try to
- 2:16Speaker 2: kill Donald Trump? A real mystery, truly one for the
- 2:20Speaker 2: ages now. I'm being sarcastic, of course, but Barack Obama
- 2:24Speaker 2: apparently wasn't. He tweeted today, although we don't yet have
- 2:28Speaker 2: the details about the motives behind last night's shooting at
- 2:31Speaker 2: the White House correspondents dinner, it's incumbent upon all of
- 2:34Speaker 2: us to reject the idea that violence has any place
- 2:38Speaker 2: in our democracy. We don't yet have any details about
- 2:42Speaker 2: the motives behind the shooting. Obama posted that tweet hours
- 2:46Speaker 2: after the alleged gunman's manifesto had been widely reported by
- 2:50Speaker 2: the media. Cole Thomas Allen had allegedly wriitten that he
- 2:54Speaker 2: intended to kill Donald Trump because I am no longer
- 2:58Speaker 2: willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat
- 3:02Speaker 2: my hands with his crimes. He went on to outline
- 3:06Speaker 2: a laundry list of political grievances, not least of which
- 3:09Speaker 2: was Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration. So I think Obama
- 3:13Speaker 2: was lying when he wrote that the gunman's motives were
- 3:15Speaker 2: a complete mystery. But the lie, in my opinion, was
- 3:20Speaker 2: also something of a confession, a confession that the accused
- 3:23Speaker 2: gunman's motives were so obvious and so obviously inspired by
- 3:28Speaker 2: Democrat talking points. Well, Democrats had little option but to
- 3:33Speaker 2: lie and to feign confusion, And boy did they pretend
- 3:37Speaker 2: confusion at what had happened. Minnesota governor and former US
- 3:40Speaker 2: vice presidential candidate Tim Waltz tweeted this, today, political violence
- 3:46Speaker 2: has become all too prevalent in America. I'm grateful for
- 3:49Speaker 2: the swift response from law enforcement at the White House
- 3:52Speaker 2: Correspondent's dinner. You've got to be kidding me, Tim Waltz,
- 3:56Speaker 2: bemoaning political violence. Here's Tim Waltz fantasized that one day
- 4:01Speaker 2: he would wake up to news that his political opponent
- 4:04Speaker 2: was dead. You get up in the morning and you
- 4:06Speaker 2: doom scroll through things. And although I will say this,
- 4:10Speaker 2: the last few days you woke up thinking there might
- 4:12Speaker 2: be news, just saying, just saying there will be news.
- 4:19Speaker 2: This is the same Tim Waltz today, bemoaning political violence,
- 4:23Speaker 2: who whipped up hysteria against Donald Trump with speeches like this.
- 4:29Speaker 6: No one has ever been more dangerous to this country
- 4:32Speaker 6: than Donald Trump.
- 4:33Speaker 2: And he is a fascist to his core. And if
- 4:36Speaker 2: calling Trump a fascist wasn't enough, he likened Trump's round
- 4:40Speaker 2: up of illegal immigrants. One of the alleged gunmen stated
- 4:43Speaker 2: reasons for Trump targeting Trump, He likened them to Hitler's
- 4:48Speaker 2: gestapo because nothing says measured civil discourse like historical analogies
- 4:53Speaker 2: with maximum emotional voltage.
- 4:56Speaker 7: Donald Trump's modern dapo is folks up off the streets.
- 5:01Speaker 8: They are in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped off
- 5:04Speaker 8: to foreign torture dungeons.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Yesterday, Cole Thomas Allen is accused of trying to kill
- 5:10Speaker 2: Donald Trump in part because of his immigration policies, and
- 5:15Speaker 2: Tim Walsh says political violence is becoming all too prevalent today,
- 5:19Speaker 2: as if Col Thomas Allen's alleged decision to kill Trump
- 5:22Speaker 2: over immigration policy had nothing to do with him, Please,
- 5:27Speaker 2: Walts was just one of dozens of Democrats bemoaning today,
- 5:31Speaker 2: having fermented it yesterday, I ever listened to Democrats Senator
- 5:34Speaker 2: Alissa Slotkin from Michigan.
- 5:37Speaker 9: The debate now among Democrats is how do you answer
- 5:41Speaker 9: the following question? Is Donald Trump an existential threat to
- 5:46Speaker 9: democracy in his second term? Or is Donald Trump's second
- 5:52Speaker 9: term a fly on me? Is Donald Trump's second term
- 5:58Speaker 9: bad like his first term survivable? If we just waited
- 6:03Speaker 9: out right, and I just want you to know from
- 6:07Speaker 9: your senator, as someone who sits in that room on
- 6:10Speaker 9: your behalf. I am in camp number one. He is
- 6:13Speaker 9: an existential threat to democracy.
- 6:17Speaker 2: If Trump is president, democracy will not survive.
- 6:21Speaker 5: Well.
- 6:21Speaker 2: If democracy cannot survive, one might reasonably ask what precisely
- 6:24Speaker 2: one is meant to do about that situation. Discuss it
- 6:28Speaker 2: over brunch. This is how we ended up with the
- 6:31Speaker 2: alleged gunman called Thomas Allen describing himself as and I quote,
- 6:35Speaker 2: a friendly federal assassin. In other words, he saw himself
- 6:39Speaker 2: as a righteous murderer. And it's pretty obvious he didn't
- 6:43Speaker 2: come to that conclusion in a vacuum, but he was.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Senator Alissa Slotkin today, she wrote, I'm grateful that the
- 6:50Speaker 2: president and all the guests from last night's event are
- 6:53Speaker 2: safe and that no one was seriously injured. I think
- 6:56Speaker 2: first responders for their work. While an investigation is underway,
- 6:59Speaker 2: we should be clear that political violence has no place
- 7:03Speaker 2: in America. Let me give you a third example. And
- 7:07Speaker 2: as I said, we could go all night on these,
- 7:09Speaker 2: but I'll give you just one more. Brooklyn Democratic Congressman
- 7:12Speaker 2: Hakeem Jeffreys. Now Jeffries thinked law enforcement today and proclaimed
- 7:17Speaker 2: the violence and chaos in America must end. But just
- 7:21Speaker 2: three days ago, Jeffries called for maximum warfare against President Trump.
- 7:27Speaker 8: Violence is never the answer, whether it's targeted at the right,
- 7:31Speaker 8: the left, or the center. We have issues that we
- 7:35Speaker 8: have to work out amongst each other. That's embedded in
- 7:38Speaker 8: the First Amendment that was being celebrated last night. But
- 7:41Speaker 8: what is also embedded in the First Amendment is the
- 7:44Speaker 8: right to peacefully protest and to petition the government. We
- 7:50Speaker 8: are in an error of maximum warfare everywhere all the time.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Like I said, we could show you dozens of these
- 8:03Speaker 2: Democrats inciting violence one moment and then as if butter
- 8:06Speaker 2: wouldn't melt in their mouth to crying at the next.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi has tried to explain that when the Dems
- 8:12Speaker 2: criticized Trump, they don't intend for anyone to actually do anything.
- 8:18Speaker 10: People don't have any intention of saying something that's going
- 8:21Speaker 10: to lead to something dangerous. But we cannot take responsibility
- 8:26Speaker 10: for the minds that are out there and how they
- 8:28Speaker 10: hear it.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Yeah, but how many ways can you hear? Trump is
- 8:33Speaker 2: an Nazi, Trump is Hitler, Trump is an existential threat
- 8:36Speaker 2: to democracy. Democrat Senator ilan Omar tweeted just weeks ago,
- 8:41Speaker 2: and I quote, I mean, this one is incredible. The
- 8:43Speaker 2: leader of the Pedophile Protection Party is trying to deflect
- 8:47Speaker 2: attention from his name being all over the Epstein files.
- 8:51Speaker 2: At least in Somalia, they execute pedophiles, not elect them.
- 8:56Speaker 2: But like Nancy Pelosi said, Democrats aren't responsible for help
- 8:59Speaker 2: he hear things like that. I think it's pretty clear
- 9:03Speaker 2: that the problem in America is not gun violence. It's
- 9:06Speaker 2: incitement to violence from those on the left. And here's
- 9:10Speaker 2: what's strikingly strange. You get your crazies on the right
- 9:14Speaker 2: side of politics, too, we all know that. But the
- 9:16Speaker 2: craziness on the left doesn't just come from the fringe.
- 9:20Speaker 2: It comes from the most prominent people in the left.
- 9:23Speaker 2: And that's a hugely significant difference and a major problem.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Three weeks ago, Saturday Night Live broadcast a skit that
- 9:30Speaker 2: essentially asked Americans how funny would it be if Trump
- 9:34Speaker 2: was assassinated.
- 9:36Speaker 8: President Trump attended the opening night of Chicago at the
- 9:39Speaker 8: Kennedy Center.
- 9:40Speaker 5: And I think that's cool that the president is going
- 9:42Speaker 5: to the theater.
- 9:43Speaker 11: I mean, what's the worst that could happen?
- 9:49Speaker 2: Even worse, Jimmy Kimmel, staging a mock White House correspondence dinner,
- 9:53Speaker 2: had actually joked about Millennia Trump becoming a widow.
- 9:58Speaker 5: Our first lady, Milania is here.
- 10:00Speaker 11: Look at more so beautiful.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Missus Trump, You have a glow like an expectant widow.
- 10:05Speaker 2: What sort of people think that murder is funny? And
- 10:09Speaker 2: what sort of people think that a woman becoming a
- 10:11Speaker 2: widow thanks to her husband's would be assassin is cause
- 10:14Speaker 2: for laughter? Well, the answer, I fear it's the sort
- 10:17Speaker 2: of people who agree that murder is wrong unless it
- 10:19Speaker 2: happens to the right people. I'll give you an example.
- 10:23Speaker 2: The New York Times, a former newspaper, ran this interview
- 10:26Speaker 2: on their website featuring her son Piker, saying the assassination
- 10:30Speaker 2: of a healthcare CEO.
- 10:33Speaker 6: Was understandable Brian Thompson, as the United Healthcare CEO was
- 10:40Speaker 6: engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder. The systematized
- 10:44Speaker 6: forms of violence, the structural violence of poverty, the for
- 10:51Speaker 6: profit payworld system of healthcare in this country, and the
- 10:57Speaker 6: consequences of that are tremendous amounts of pain. I saw
- 11:02Speaker 6: so many people immediately understand why this death had taken place.
- 11:09Speaker 2: How on earth can the New York Times platform a
- 11:11Speaker 2: person who just casually explains away the murder of a
- 11:15Speaker 2: husband and father of two because people didn't like paying
- 11:18Speaker 2: healthcare premiums. So the United States seems to be left
- 11:21Speaker 2: with a strange cultural equation, escalating retric shocked reactions in
- 11:26Speaker 2: a permanent state of surprise that anything in particular might
- 11:29Speaker 2: follow anything else. With that in mind and the fact
- 11:32Speaker 2: that he's now survived not one, not two, but three
- 11:34Speaker 2: assassination attempts, can you forgive Donald Trump for getting annoyed
- 11:38Speaker 2: when not twenty four hours after the latest attempt on
- 11:42Speaker 2: his life, the sixty Minutes reported decides to repeat Left's
- 11:45Speaker 2: talking points, sorry, the accused talking points. It's easy to
- 11:48Speaker 2: get them jumbled up. But have a listen to this.
- 11:51Speaker 12: And he also wrote this, I am no longer willing
- 11:54Speaker 12: to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my
- 11:58Speaker 12: hands with his crimes.
- 12:00Speaker 5: What's your reaction, Well, I.
- 12:01Speaker 13: Was waiting for you to read that because I knew
- 12:02Speaker 13: you would, because you're horrible people. Horrible people. Yeah, he
- 12:07Speaker 13: did write that, I'm not a rapist, I didn't reap anybody.
- 12:13Speaker 13: I think he was to excuse me I'm not a pedophile.
- 12:17Speaker 13: You read that crap from some sick person. You shouldn't
- 12:20Speaker 13: be reading that in sixty minutes. You're a disgrace. But
- 12:23Speaker 13: go ahead, let's finish the interview.
- 12:24Speaker 12: The other thing that he wrote in you disgracefully.
- 12:28Speaker 2: The man has just survived another assassination attempt, and sixteen
- 12:32Speaker 2: minutes wanted a gotcha moment and to repeat all of
- 12:34Speaker 2: the lefty talking points that led to the assassin taking
- 12:38Speaker 2: the action he took. Let me show you a moment
- 12:40Speaker 2: of that sixty minutes interview that I did actually quite enjoy.
- 12:44Speaker 12: He had attended a no King's protest in California. Kings,
- 12:48Speaker 12: what did security tell you about.
- 12:51Speaker 13: The reason you have people like that is? You have
- 12:53Speaker 13: people doing no kings?
- 12:54Speaker 3: I'm not a king?
- 12:55Speaker 13: What I am? If I was a king, I wouldn't
- 12:57Speaker 13: be dealing with you.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Is right. If he was a king, he'd be dealing
- 13:01Speaker 2: with the press the way Joe Biden used to deal
- 13:03Speaker 2: with them. Now, before I bring in Sean Spicel, let
- 13:28Speaker 2: me show you recent comments from Democrats strategist James Cavill.
- 13:32Speaker 14: You're right, I got Trump derangement syndrome. I hate the
- 13:37Speaker 14: mother and you know what. I don't want to get
- 13:40Speaker 14: rid of it. I don't want to get better, I
- 13:43Speaker 14: want to get worse. I want to hate any more.
- 13:46Speaker 14: Pray to God in heaven, God rain the righteous rain.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Of Trump derangement syndrome me. Pray for me, Lord, I'm
- 13:54Speaker 2: your vessel on this earth. Pray for the people that
- 13:57Speaker 2: listen to this. We want more.
- 14:00Speaker 14: You want to hate the sign of a bit so
- 14:01Speaker 14: much that we case see straight.
- 14:04Speaker 2: We want to hate Donald Trump so much that we
- 14:07Speaker 2: can't see straight. Well, God has certainly answered the left's prayers.
- 14:15Speaker 7: Well.
- 14:15Speaker 2: Joining me now is former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer. Sean,
- 14:18Speaker 2: thanks for coming on the program. We're learning more about
- 14:21Speaker 2: the man who allegedly tried to kill the president. Cole Thomas.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Ellen described himself in his manifesto as and I quote,
- 14:28Speaker 2: a friendly assassin. It's nice, Well.
- 14:33Speaker 4: It's funny you're at least calling him out. President Obama
- 14:38Speaker 4: just tweeted out within the last couple hours. We don't
- 14:40Speaker 4: know this person's motives, and that's what several folks in
- 14:43Speaker 4: the American media are claiming. He has issued a manifesto
- 14:46Speaker 4: he talked about, as you noted, James, a friendly assassin,
- 14:49Speaker 4: how to kill everyone as many people in the Trump
- 14:52Speaker 4: administration as he can, and anyone.
- 14:54Speaker 5: Who got in the way. We know his motives.
- 14:56Speaker 4: He made it very clear in that manifesto what his
- 14:58Speaker 4: motives were. The left and their friends in the media
- 15:01Speaker 4: here don't want us to discuss it because we continue
- 15:04Speaker 4: to see this pattern over and over again of people
- 15:06Speaker 4: attacking of folks in the Trump administration. People on the
- 15:09Speaker 4: right like Charlie Kirk, and the left and the media
- 15:12Speaker 4: don't want to acknowledge it. So they keep saying, well,
- 15:13Speaker 4: we don't know the motives, and not only I mean
- 15:15Speaker 4: we have them crystal clear. He wrote them down.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Well, it's justifications for wanting to kill Donald Trump read
- 15:22Speaker 2: like a list of left wing media talking points, don't they.
- 15:25Speaker 2: I mean, he referred to Trump as a pedophile or racist,
- 15:28Speaker 2: a traitor, responsible for holding people in detention camps, executing
- 15:32Speaker 2: people without trial. Like I said, this is a list
- 15:35Speaker 2: of left wing media talking points.
- 15:39Speaker 5: It is.
- 15:39Speaker 4: And so for all of these folks in America who
- 15:42Speaker 4: are saying suddenly that we need to take down the rhetoric,
- 15:45Speaker 4: where do you think he's getting this from? You know,
- 15:47Speaker 4: Jamie Raskin is a leading left wing Democrat in the
- 15:50Speaker 4: House of Representatives here from Maryland. He was asked on
- 15:53Speaker 4: our cable network CNN earlier today if he thought the
- 15:56Speaker 4: Democrats needed to take the temperature down, and when the
- 15:59Speaker 4: hosts said, you know, he said, could you give me
- 16:02Speaker 4: an example. I can't think of a time when we've
- 16:05Speaker 4: turned the volume and the rhetoric up. And I mean,
- 16:08Speaker 4: think about it. I can probably come up with like
- 16:09Speaker 4: five off the top of my head real quick. But
- 16:12Speaker 4: that's their mentality. A they don't think they do it,
- 16:15Speaker 4: and B they just want to deny that it happens.
- 16:18Speaker 5: I'm actually shocked that CNN asked the question.
- 16:20Speaker 4: To be honest with you, but this is the result
- 16:22Speaker 4: of the Democrats feeding their base a degree of you know,
- 16:26Speaker 4: when you tell someone that someone poses a threat to democracy, well.
- 16:30Speaker 5: What are you going to do? At some point you
- 16:32Speaker 5: feel like, well, I've got to act.
- 16:34Speaker 4: My team is getting me all fired up this action this,
- 16:38Speaker 4: you know, and I know the press won't do it
- 16:39Speaker 4: because they don't want to cover they don't want to
- 16:42Speaker 4: talk about it. But the reality is this was a
- 16:44Speaker 4: direct result of the rhetoric of the left, and it
- 16:47Speaker 4: may be hard to hear in America for some folks,
- 16:50Speaker 4: and I know the media don't want to squirm me.
- 16:53Speaker 5: We're not supposed to say.
- 16:54Speaker 4: This, James, but the reality is that this guy, to
- 16:56Speaker 4: your point, clearly got a set up talking points that
- 17:00Speaker 4: manifested themselves over and over and over again.
- 17:03Speaker 5: After hearing all of these folks on the left say it.
- 17:06Speaker 2: He also indicated he was prepared to kill whoever got
- 17:09Speaker 2: in his way because anyone who chose to be in
- 17:12Speaker 2: the room listening to Trump was complicit. Do you think
- 17:16Speaker 2: those on the left, particularly in the media, will wake
- 17:20Speaker 2: up to the fact that when they insist on demonizing
- 17:23Speaker 2: Trump over political disagreements, I mean, they endangered their own
- 17:26Speaker 2: lives as well as that of Trump's.
- 17:29Speaker 4: No, you know, the funny thing is they probably mostly agree.
- 17:33Speaker 4: There was a list of over five hundred journalists that
- 17:37Speaker 4: said that that by being there, the White House Correspondence
- 17:40Speaker 4: Association was complicit. I find, by the way, a total
- 17:43Speaker 4: sense of irony that when Trump didn't go to the dinner,
- 17:46Speaker 4: he was undermining democracy and attacking the media by his
- 17:51Speaker 4: lack of presence. Then when he chose to accept their invitation,
- 17:54Speaker 4: suddenly that was a bad thing. It's a no win situation,
- 17:57Speaker 4: but the reality is that most of them here. Former
- 18:01Speaker 4: White House Correspondence Association presidents like Ron Fournier posted on
- 18:06Speaker 4: social media that they didn't want him to attend that
- 18:08Speaker 4: he was a threat.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Incredible. I want to go back, just for a second
- 18:13Speaker 2: to the way the alleged shoot to describe himself as
- 18:17Speaker 2: a friendly assassin. It so that encapitulates this idea within
- 18:21Speaker 2: sections of the left that somehow they are morally righteous
- 18:25Speaker 2: for engaging in violence. Friendly assassin. I'm doing a bad thing,
- 18:29Speaker 2: but for righteous reasons. Therefore I'm the good guy, even
- 18:33Speaker 2: as I'm a confessed murderer. Yeah.
- 18:37Speaker 4: So, there's this theory that I've been promulgating for years now,
- 18:40Speaker 4: which is that folks on the left think that if
- 18:42Speaker 4: they are in pursuit of what they believe the greater
- 18:44Speaker 4: good is whatever that is, that the means justify the ends.
- 18:49Speaker 4: There is this ongoing sense among folks in the left
- 18:52Speaker 4: the political violence is okay if you are achieving the
- 18:56Speaker 4: ends to which you are pursuing. And again, you know,
- 18:59Speaker 4: ne'er there be a single Democrat that's calling this out
- 19:02Speaker 4: now this week. There we all need to take the
- 19:04Speaker 4: temperature around you. Notice how when their side does it.
- 19:06Speaker 4: It's all of our faults, right, we all need to
- 19:09Speaker 4: take the temperature down.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Indeed, the alleged gunman sounded like a guy who believed
- 19:15Speaker 2: he was part of the oppressed and he needed to
- 19:18Speaker 2: kill in order to right the wrongs of the world.
- 19:21Speaker 2: That being true, he was also involved in teaching young people.
- 19:27Speaker 2: Have we got a problem in America not just with
- 19:29Speaker 2: the political left, but also in education.
- 19:33Speaker 5: One hundred percent.
- 19:35Speaker 4: Linda McMahon, our Education secretary, has been addressing this issue
- 19:39Speaker 4: in K through twelve education here and obviously in higher ed.
- 19:42Speaker 4: But you bring up such a great point. Think about
- 19:45Speaker 4: a guy like this who believes what he believes and
- 19:48Speaker 4: finds that the only way to solve this is through violence,
- 19:51Speaker 4: and he is somebody teaching young children, you know, right
- 19:54Speaker 4: and wrong.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Sean, you've obviously been involved with a press call there
- 19:58Speaker 2: for a long time. I kind of sense in your demeanor,
- 20:02Speaker 2: in your tone today that you're more than a little
- 20:05Speaker 2: upset about this. You're actually quite angry.
- 20:09Speaker 4: Well, I am, because you know again, I just this
- 20:12Speaker 4: is so clear and for all of the talk in
- 20:15Speaker 4: the American media about misinformation and truth and the freedom
- 20:18Speaker 4: of the press, and this is a crystal clear example,
- 20:22Speaker 4: and yet here we are having a discussion about well,
- 20:24Speaker 4: it's it's we all need to take the temperature down.
- 20:27Speaker 5: How could this have happened?
- 20:28Speaker 11: You know?
- 20:29Speaker 5: This is this is on them.
- 20:31Speaker 4: And unfortunately, because the media is so in bed with
- 20:34Speaker 4: the Democratic Party, they don't want to call them out
- 20:36Speaker 4: for the fact. I mean, look, we haven't even gotten
- 20:38Speaker 4: to the fact, James, that the US Secret Service, who
- 20:41Speaker 4: they all praise, is working without pay because Democrats are
- 20:44Speaker 4: voting against it. I mean, there is so much wrong
- 20:47Speaker 4: with what happened last night, and nobody will have an
- 20:50Speaker 4: honest discussion about it because it was their dinner. I mean,
- 20:53Speaker 4: that's what it comes down to, their dinner. So we
- 20:56Speaker 4: can't say anything bad and we can't talk about the
- 20:58Speaker 4: reality of this. But this, this should have never happened.
- 21:00Speaker 4: Why because they shouldn't have been going in the first place.
- 21:03Speaker 5: I've been very outspoken about this.
- 21:05Speaker 4: I don't want I mean, there's some events to go to,
- 21:06Speaker 4: that's fine, but the press wants to have their dinner.
- 21:09Speaker 5: Go for it.
- 21:10Speaker 4: They have a freedom of assembly, they have a freedom
- 21:12Speaker 4: of speech, and of course they're first to tell you
- 21:15Speaker 4: that they've got the freedom of the press.
- 21:16Speaker 5: They want to have a dinner. God bless them.
- 21:18Speaker 4: But Republicans and folks on the right who attend these
- 21:21Speaker 4: different dinners are complicit in giving legitimacy to this organization
- 21:25Speaker 4: that is nothing more than a far left progressive group.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Now Trump wants to reschedule the White House correspondents to
- 21:32Speaker 2: dinner within the next thirty days. Is there a chance,
- 21:36Speaker 2: I'm the eternal optimist schun is there a chance he
- 21:39Speaker 2: could use the dinner to reset things with the press.
- 21:44Speaker 4: Sure, the easy answer to your question is yes. But
- 21:47Speaker 4: why I don't understand this. Like I said, go have
- 21:50Speaker 4: your dinner, give out your awards, pat each other on
- 21:53Speaker 4: the back for your left wing stories. But why does
- 21:55Speaker 4: the President of the United States, who has been very
- 21:59Speaker 4: vocal and I agree with him on calling out their lies,
- 22:02Speaker 4: their misinformation in their bibs, Why is it incumbent upon
- 22:05Speaker 4: him to reschedule a dinner that's not on him.
- 22:08Speaker 5: It's a private organization.
- 22:09Speaker 4: They want to have a dinner, Go have their dinner,
- 22:11Speaker 4: hand out their silly awards, pat themselves on the back.
- 22:14Speaker 5: Congratulate each other. God bless them.
- 22:16Speaker 4: They have a right to do it in America, But
- 22:18Speaker 4: we should not have any any government involvement in this.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Just one quick thing before I let you go. Sean
- 22:24Speaker 2: Trump has also made it clear that the assassination attempt
- 22:28Speaker 2: at the hotel is part of the reason the White
- 22:30Speaker 2: House needs its own ballroom. He's copped a lot of
- 22:33Speaker 2: criticism for the plans to build the White House Ballroom.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Does this now make the point for him?
- 22:41Speaker 5: Yes and no.
- 22:42Speaker 4: So I actually just put out a tweet on this
- 22:45Speaker 4: Acting Attorney General Todd blanche they filed in court and
- 22:48Speaker 4: made this point.
- 22:49Speaker 5: I am a huge proponent of the ballroom.
- 22:51Speaker 4: I think it's a great idea, and frankly, I was
- 22:53Speaker 4: out at some events earlier today and it does, beneath
- 22:56Speaker 4: the surface, have a lot of bipartisan support because anybody
- 22:59Speaker 4: who's here knows that when you have big events, you know,
- 23:02Speaker 4: whether it's a sports team, a reception of sorts, of
- 23:05Speaker 4: state dinner, you need a bigger room. Right that this
- 23:08Speaker 4: shouldn't be a discussion. But again I'll go back to
- 23:10Speaker 4: the fact that the White House should never ever be
- 23:12Speaker 4: in the business of hosting left wing organizations or frankly,
- 23:16Speaker 4: any private organizations function. There's plenty of rooms in DC
- 23:19Speaker 4: to go do that, but the White House should stay
- 23:21Speaker 4: out of that business. So yes on the ballroom noted
- 23:24Speaker 4: the event being there.
- 23:25Speaker 2: Sean Spicer always enjoy catching up with you. Thanks so
- 23:28Speaker 2: much for your time this evening, you bet sor season Well.
- 23:32Speaker 2: A group of women who went to Syria to be
- 23:34Speaker 2: part of Islamic State are now about to return to Australia.
- 23:37Speaker 2: The four women, along with nine children bought tickets reportedly
- 23:42Speaker 2: now have them booked in the ETA. Well that's any
- 23:45Speaker 2: day now, and the urbanezy government wants you to believe
- 23:47Speaker 2: that there is surprised as anyone if denied offering Isis
- 23:51Speaker 2: brides any help to get here. And they've also claimed
- 23:54Speaker 2: they were powerless to prevent the Isis brides from arriving.
- 23:58Speaker 2: He listen to Tenure Plibask this morning.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Australian law says if an Australian citizen asks for an
- 24:03Speaker 1: Australian passport, then they get an Australian passport. But there's
- 24:06Speaker 1: nothing to stop us if these people manage to make
- 24:09Speaker 1: it back. If these people manage to make it back,
- 24:13Speaker 1: you know they can be picked up at the airport
- 24:16Speaker 1: and face the full force of the Australian law.
- 24:19Speaker 2: There's nothing labor can do to stop these alleged terrorists
- 24:21Speaker 2: sympathizers from returning to Australia. It's the law. Hang on
- 24:26Speaker 2: a second, Labor is the government and governments exist to
- 24:29Speaker 2: make laws and to change laws, don't they Q This
- 24:32Speaker 2: very awkward and telling Exchange.
- 24:35Speaker 1: People are now asking the question, is there any way
- 24:38Speaker 1: we could change the Australian law to not accept them back?
- 24:42Speaker 11: Tanya?
- 24:42Speaker 2: Is that possibility?
- 24:46Speaker 1: Well, that's not a question for me, Na.
- 24:52Speaker 2: If changing laws is not a question for the government,
- 24:54Speaker 2: who's it a question for who's running the country. Jording
- 24:57Speaker 2: Minow's former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and former
- 25:01Speaker 2: Labor advisor Darren Bennett, two men who I think we
- 25:03Speaker 2: could all agree would do a great job running the country,
- 25:06Speaker 2: at least a better job than the current mob. Michael,
- 25:08Speaker 2: I'll start with you. That was an extraordinary performance from
- 25:11Speaker 2: Tanya Plibasek pretending the government is powerless to change any laws. Yeah.
- 25:16Speaker 15: Well, they could change the law and make the temporary
- 25:19Speaker 15: Exclusion Order provision which allows the government to stop people
- 25:22Speaker 15: coming in for two years on security grounds. They could
- 25:26Speaker 15: change that to five or ten years, not permanently but
- 25:29Speaker 15: temporally temporary. Whilst they whilst they investigate. I mean, look,
- 25:34Speaker 15: I would think the overwhelming majority of Australians don't want
- 25:36Speaker 15: these Irises brides back in the country. The Australian newspapers
- 25:39Speaker 15: named a number of them tonight. Allegedly one of them
- 25:42Speaker 15: married an ISIS fighter in Rakka some years back. Now
- 25:46Speaker 15: that was a.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Prohibited area in Syria.
- 25:48Speaker 15: That would be a criminal offense allegedly if she'd done that,
- 25:51Speaker 15: A going to the area which was prohibited and b
- 25:54Speaker 15: giving assistance to ISIS. So are these women going to
- 25:58Speaker 15: be arrested when they arrive in Australia. Has the government
- 26:01Speaker 15: interviewed them? You know, et cetera, et cetera. There are
- 26:05Speaker 15: so many unanswered questions. But no, I mean one of
- 26:09Speaker 15: the reasons there's the problem in this country today, James,
- 26:11Speaker 15: is because ISIS brides who went to Syria voluntarily married
- 26:16Speaker 15: ISIS fighters. The worst of the worst are coming back
- 26:20Speaker 15: to Australia with their passports. You know, a war hero
- 26:24Speaker 15: like Ben Robert Smith is on bail for murder.
- 26:28Speaker 2: You work that out. Yeah, I'm not even going to
- 26:30Speaker 2: try and unpack that one, because you're right and none
- 26:32Speaker 2: of it makes any sense, Darren. Why won't the government
- 26:35Speaker 2: just move to change laws. I think most Australians would say,
- 26:39Speaker 2: we don't want these people back here. Why should they
- 26:41Speaker 2: come back here? They made their bed, lie in it.
- 26:44Speaker 2: But for Tenure plebisec to feign powerlessness, I mean, you
- 26:47Speaker 2: elect the government to take responsibility, not to say well,
- 26:50Speaker 2: we can't do anything.
- 26:52Speaker 16: It's true ten is not the relevant minister, but he's
- 26:54Speaker 16: a cabinet minister, and I think cabinet ministers can make
- 26:59Speaker 16: comments on behalf of that inner circle of government more
- 27:02Speaker 16: so than other ministers or MPs can. So yeah, they
- 27:06Speaker 16: can change the law, and it may well be that
- 27:08Speaker 16: in the next few months they do change the law,
- 27:11Speaker 16: but I think you'll find it will be after this
- 27:13Speaker 16: episode is completed. So look, it's not a great look.
- 27:17Speaker 16: I agree with Michael and you.
- 27:19Speaker 2: It's popular though, Why would they wait until after, as
- 27:22Speaker 2: you said, this episode is completed and then change What
- 27:25Speaker 2: would be the strategy of the rationale behind that?
- 27:27Speaker 16: I think that what is currently in train will be
- 27:30Speaker 16: allowed to happen, that the brides will come back, that's
- 27:34Speaker 16: my question. Why hard to say, but if they were
- 27:37Speaker 16: going to act, they would have done it before now.
- 27:38Speaker 16: I think that's the logic that I'm using. So we'll
- 27:41Speaker 16: wait and see what happens when they arrive, what steps
- 27:44Speaker 16: are taken by authorities, and then see what the public
- 27:46Speaker 16: backlash is, because I think it will be quite severe.
- 27:49Speaker 2: I expect it will be. It already is I wonderful either?
- 27:52Speaker 2: If you noticed at the weekend that the Defense Force
- 27:54Speaker 2: cut back on its Anzac Day commemorations because of the
- 27:58Speaker 2: fuel shortage. Last year, the AAAF had six aerobatic aircraft
- 28:01Speaker 2: fly over the MCG on Anzac Day. This year just
- 28:04Speaker 2: one plane, all to save on fuel. And it wasn't
- 28:08Speaker 2: just in Melbourne that traditional Anzac Day flyovers were cut back.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Right around the country the Air Force either used more
- 28:13Speaker 2: efficient aircraft or none at all. So the fuel crisis
- 28:17Speaker 2: really is biting everywhere. But while our Air Force was
- 28:20Speaker 2: skimping on ANZAC data save fuel, Chris Bowen was yesterday
- 28:24Speaker 2: all but ruling out any moves to reinstate the four
- 28:27Speaker 2: oil refineries for instance, closed over the past thirteen years.
- 28:31Speaker 17: And then he said this, we're building energy security through
- 28:35Speaker 17: diversifying our energy, including renewal energy, including the sun that
- 28:41Speaker 17: can't be interrupted and has flowed to Australia and the
- 28:44Speaker 17: wind that can't be interrupted by sanctions. But I do
- 28:47Speaker 17: want to manage expectations about rebuilding a very great expense.
- 28:51Speaker 17: One of the refineries that closed under a liberal government
- 28:54Speaker 17: is not a realistic opportunity for our country.
- 28:58Speaker 2: Michael, do you think when we're all running short of
- 29:00Speaker 2: fuel and the rbleaf for know rationing their flyovers on
- 29:04Speaker 2: an'sac Day and Chris Bowen says, well, the sun, the wind,
- 29:09Speaker 2: do you think anybody takes him seriously?
- 29:13Speaker 11: No?
- 29:13Speaker 15: Well, James, I think Bowen has lost all credibility. I
- 29:16Speaker 15: mean the election lie he told about the two hundred
- 29:19Speaker 15: and seventy five dollars before the twenty twenty two election
- 29:23Speaker 15: lives in the minds of people. He'll never disown that statement, right,
- 29:28Speaker 15: it was an election bribe that turned out to be
- 29:30Speaker 15: a lie. It was false at the time, it was
- 29:32Speaker 15: false after and to blame the modeling. So when Bowen's
- 29:35Speaker 15: got no credibility and these green schemes great in theory, Chris,
- 29:39Speaker 15: but there mate, you've squandered billions and billions of taxpayers dollars.
- 29:44Speaker 15: And as we know, the Left agenda is always for
- 29:48Speaker 15: twenty odd years, so you know you can date it
- 29:50Speaker 15: actually back to the early seventies, the environmental movement shutting
- 29:53Speaker 15: down the mining industry, shutting down fossil fuels, the euphoria
- 29:59Speaker 15: around renewables, which are great, but they're too expensive. They're
- 30:03Speaker 15: far too expensive for this country. And if they're haf
- 30:05Speaker 15: hard to expensive here, they're too expensive elsewhere. That doesn't
- 30:08Speaker 15: have the sun on the wind that we do have.
- 30:10Speaker 15: But look, everyone knows our prime ministers has been to age.
- 30:13Speaker 15: You're begging for fuel and that just shows what a
- 30:16Speaker 15: messer in And when those industries close, they don't reopen.
- 30:20Speaker 15: They close for economic reasons. They don't reopen me.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Well, there was a shortage of fuel on ANZAC, David,
- 30:26Speaker 2: no shortage of welcome to country ceremonies. A lot of
- 30:28Speaker 2: people insist that booing of the ceremonies was inappropriate. I've
- 30:31Speaker 2: got some sympathy with that, but I would argue the
- 30:33Speaker 2: ceremonies themselves were also inappropriate. Darren, we were talking just
- 30:37Speaker 2: before we came on air. You went to BONDI. I
- 30:40Speaker 2: don't think there was a welcome to country there, But
- 30:43Speaker 2: what did you think about the scenes we saw at
- 30:45Speaker 2: the dawn service in Melbourne and in Sydney.
- 30:47Speaker 16: I don't think people should boo. I think that you
- 30:49Speaker 16: can separate the two issues. Whether there should be a
- 30:51Speaker 16: Welcome to Country, but you shouldn't be with an ANZAC
- 30:54Speaker 16: Day service. That's just a given. I thought I only
- 30:57Speaker 16: watched it on TV, but on SAD a long term
- 31:01Speaker 16: Essenance supporter, and I watched the ANZAC Day game and
- 31:04Speaker 16: the way that the Welcome to Country and all of
- 31:07Speaker 16: the other parts of the opening of the match. I
- 31:10Speaker 16: thought it was quite beautiful to watch, so I'm okay
- 31:13Speaker 16: with it being there. But that's a separate question to
- 31:17Speaker 16: whether you can boo, and you can't boo because that
- 31:19Speaker 16: offends everybody at the event.
- 31:21Speaker 2: Michael, I guess the frustration is, imagine you're in Melbourne.
- 31:24Speaker 2: I mean you are. So you've got a state that
- 31:27Speaker 2: voted no to the Voice and yet have had an
- 31:30Speaker 2: indigenous body foisted upon them a treaty to be foisted
- 31:34Speaker 2: upon them. Then they've got Welcome to Country on ANZAC Day.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Is the booing and admission that we're sick of government.
- 31:40Speaker 2: No one listens to us, The politicians don't respect our votes,
- 31:44Speaker 2: so we're left to boo. Can we really be that
- 31:47Speaker 2: hard on people?
- 31:49Speaker 15: Yeah, that's partly the reason why it happened, and I'm
- 31:52Speaker 15: a darren. I don't like it whatsoever.
- 31:54Speaker 2: But look, Anzac Day is not a day to.
- 31:58Speaker 15: Be politicized with causes like Aboriginal rights, women's issues, political correctness.
- 32:08Speaker 15: Leave Anzac Day alone, right. It's a national day for
- 32:11Speaker 15: all of those men and women, including Aboriginals and other
- 32:15Speaker 15: you know, minority groups who came here, who fought alongside bravely.
- 32:21Speaker 15: This is about the whole country. And to try and
- 32:25Speaker 15: divide the country, to try and use it to pursue
- 32:29Speaker 15: particular court, that's not what Anzac Day. It's a misreading,
- 32:31Speaker 15: it's a misunderstanding what Anzac Day is all about.
- 32:35Speaker 4: Right.
- 32:35Speaker 2: It's a commemoration.
- 32:36Speaker 15: It's a remembrance of a whole of nation approach to
- 32:41Speaker 15: fighting for liberty and freedom and the death that followed
- 32:45Speaker 15: the courageous acts of so many Australians, whether there were men, women,
- 32:49Speaker 15: Aboriginal or whatever you know. And the people running these
- 32:54Speaker 15: events should understand that's what it's about. It's about the
- 32:57Speaker 15: whole country. And to try and separated and make political gestures,
- 33:01Speaker 15: that's why people are angry about it. And if there's
- 33:03Speaker 15: one day that should be celebrated, it's Anzac Day. Without politics.
- 33:07Speaker 16: Mate.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Yeah, well, said Michael Kroger. Darren Bennett, appreciate you coming
- 33:11Speaker 2: on the program tonight, Thanks so much. All right, after
- 33:13Speaker 2: the break, the Iranian regime has put a new peace
- 33:16Speaker 2: plan on the table, but with one big nuclear caveat.
- 33:20Speaker 2: And how are they being allowed to taup for supporters
- 33:22Speaker 2: of martyrdom Here The Australian's Greg Sheridan will join me
- 33:25Speaker 2: to discuss that and more. Right after this, after failing
- 33:31Speaker 2: to turn up to the second round of talks with
- 33:33Speaker 2: the US, the Iranian regime has put a new piece
- 33:36Speaker 2: plan on the table, but with one major caveat. Sources
- 33:40Speaker 2: close to the matter of told Axius that Iran wants
- 33:42Speaker 2: to delay negotiations over its nuclear program until an unknown
- 33:46Speaker 2: date sometime in the future, while reopening the Strait of
- 33:49Speaker 2: Hamu's and ending the war immediately. But as the Access
- 33:52Speaker 2: report points out, lifting the blockade and ending the war
- 33:56Speaker 2: would remove President Trump's leverage in any future talks to
- 33:59Speaker 2: remove iran stile of enriched uranium and convinced Iran to
- 34:03Speaker 2: suspend Enrichmond joining me now for more on this is
- 34:06Speaker 2: the country's top foreign affairs writer, Greg Sheridan, Greg Good
- 34:09Speaker 2: evening to you, I don't see how Trump can accept
- 34:12Speaker 2: Iran's terms, but not do I see Iran giving any ground.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Is this now a very expensive stalemate?
- 34:19Speaker 7: James, great to be with you. Yeah, I think that's
- 34:20Speaker 7: exactly what it is. So Iran has two things that
- 34:26Speaker 7: it doesn't want to give up. One is it's stockpile
- 34:28Speaker 7: of sixty percent enriched uranium, and even more important than that,
- 34:32Speaker 7: I would say, is its control over the Strait of
- 34:35Speaker 7: hor Moves. Now, Trump will find it very difficult to
- 34:41Speaker 7: claim victory if he doesn't get both of those things.
- 34:44Speaker 7: He has degraded Iran's military capabilities, no doubt about that,
- 34:49Speaker 7: and he's probably made it harder for them to get
- 34:52Speaker 7: nuclear weapons again, because they'd have to dig out the
- 34:55Speaker 7: stockpiles from under the pile of rubble, and the Americans
- 34:58Speaker 7: could see them doing that. But if he accepted that
- 35:03Speaker 7: Iran proposal, he can't keep his three aircraft carriers there forever.
- 35:08Speaker 7: And indeed he'll be running into troubles with Congress soon
- 35:11Speaker 7: about authorizing continuing military action. And if he once releases
- 35:17Speaker 7: the pressure of his own, you know, blockade of Iranian ports,
- 35:24Speaker 7: then that gives Iran a breathing space, and Trump might
- 35:26Speaker 7: have to reapply that later on. So also, Trump looks
- 35:30Speaker 7: very reluctant to resume major military action. So I think
- 35:34Speaker 7: the blockades, the twin blockades, probably continue, and it's a
- 35:38Speaker 7: matter of who who can sustain the pain for the longest.
- 35:42Speaker 7: The Iranians have the advantage of that they don't care
- 35:45Speaker 7: how much pain their people endure. Trump has the disadvantage
- 35:48Speaker 7: that he's got midterm congressional elections coming up and the
- 35:51Speaker 7: American people don't support the war.
- 35:54Speaker 2: So, looking into your crystal ball, Greg Sheridan, what do
- 35:57Speaker 2: you foresee?
- 35:59Speaker 7: Well, very hard to predict with Trump. He generally doesn't
- 36:03Speaker 7: fulfill his threats. The fact that he's not making threats
- 36:06Speaker 7: at the moment might counterintuitively lead you to think that
- 36:09Speaker 7: he could take another round of military action as a
- 36:12Speaker 7: last desperate effort to force them to talk. On the
- 36:17Speaker 7: other hand, giving into Iran's demands would get the oil
- 36:21Speaker 7: flowing again, and Trump is wonderfully brazen, and he could
- 36:25Speaker 7: just claim that as a great victory, notwithstanding that it's not.
- 36:30Speaker 7: But it is a real mess right now, and it's
- 36:34Speaker 7: very hard to see how the stalemate is solved, and
- 36:38Speaker 7: it might just go on like this for quite a
- 36:41Speaker 7: long time.
- 36:42Speaker 2: All right, let me bring to your attention another mystery,
- 36:45Speaker 2: or at least it's a mystery to me. It's been
- 36:47Speaker 2: revealed this last week that the Iranian embassy in Canbra
- 36:51Speaker 2: had shared messages via telegram urging people here in this
- 36:54Speaker 2: country to support a martyrdom campaign that would funnel money
- 36:58Speaker 2: into Tehran to help presumably fight the US and Israel.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Greg I always thought the role of embassy was to
- 37:04Speaker 2: represent a government, not to mobilize the disapora, and certainly
- 37:09Speaker 2: not to try to mobilize the dispora against the host
- 37:12Speaker 2: country and its interests. This comes, of course, after it
- 37:15Speaker 2: was reeled by Asio that the Iranian regime was active
- 37:20Speaker 2: in this country organizing attacks on synagogues. Why do we
- 37:24Speaker 2: still have an Iranian embassy in Canberra? Why have we
- 37:28Speaker 2: not shut it down completely?
- 37:30Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a very good question, James, So, I think
- 37:33Speaker 7: the Albaneza government was right to expel the Iranian ambassador
- 37:37Speaker 7: when it did, but it gave the public the impression
- 37:40Speaker 7: that it had closed the embassy. Now there is an
- 37:43Speaker 7: absolutely futtling, foolish, worthless doctrine in defat that we benefit
- 37:50Speaker 7: by having an official dialogue with Iran. The only time
- 37:53Speaker 7: we use that dialogue for any consequence is when they
- 37:56Speaker 7: take our citizens hostage. But the government has already declared
- 38:01Speaker 7: Asio has already told it that the Iranian embassy interferes
- 38:07Speaker 7: with the diaspora. Iranian Australians, who are overwhelmingly loyal to
- 38:12Speaker 7: Australia feel under threat from Iranian agents. We know that
- 38:17Speaker 7: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps has a presence in Australia,
- 38:21Speaker 7: and we know that the Iranian Embassy has a long
- 38:24Speaker 7: history of interfering with the political outlook of diaspora citizens
- 38:29Speaker 7: of Australia, as well as cyber interference in our politics
- 38:34Speaker 7: and more overt forms of interference in our politics. So
- 38:39Speaker 7: throwing out the embassy doesn't get rid of all of that,
- 38:42Speaker 7: but it gets rid of a certain proportion of that.
- 38:45Speaker 7: Now they've been discovered actively recruiting Australians to go and
- 38:50Speaker 7: pursue jihad for Iran. This is bananas. So here's a
- 38:55Speaker 7: message to the Albanesi government. Throw the bums out.
- 38:58Speaker 2: It's not very complicated, Greg Sheridan, I couldn't have said
- 39:02Speaker 2: it better myself. That's why we have you on the program.
- 39:05Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining me tonight all right after the break
- 39:07Speaker 2: and You report finds that classic children's novelist Roll Dal
- 39:11Speaker 2: is wait for it, problematic and a labour senate the Posts,
- 39:14Speaker 2: an Anzac Day tribute with an accompanying strip Club Anthem soundtrack,
- 39:19Speaker 2: What on Earth is going on my Panel joins me next.
- 39:26Speaker 2: As a kid, I loved books by Roll Dale, James
- 39:28Speaker 2: and the Giant Peach, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Fantastic
- 39:31Speaker 2: Mister Fox, and of course The Twits, a dark comedy
- 39:35Speaker 2: about a horrible couple who's cruelty to each other and
- 39:37Speaker 2: the animals around them eventually leads to their own ridiculous
- 39:40Speaker 2: and well deserved downfall. The book is enjoyed by primary
- 39:43Speaker 2: school children right around the country, but a report from
- 39:47Speaker 2: our moral betters at Southern Cross University has found the
- 39:50Speaker 2: children's classic, which has sold sixteen million copies, is problematic.
- 39:55Speaker 2: It makes fun of men with beards, you see, implying
- 39:58Speaker 2: that they have hairy faces because they're too lazy to
- 40:00Speaker 2: wash them, Academic doctor Millie Green said, and they quote.
- 40:04Speaker 2: While framed as humor, it constructs facial hair as suspicious,
- 40:08Speaker 2: unhygienic and morally suspect. Inviting readers to participate in the
- 40:12Speaker 2: ridicule of an entire group joining me now as Sky
- 40:16Speaker 2: News host Nikola Georgio and The Australian's Bearded Environment editor
- 40:20Speaker 2: Graham Lloyd Graham will bearded men be happy to see
- 40:23Speaker 2: the end of this discriminatory children's classic.
- 40:26Speaker 3: Well, good evening, James. Look, it's unusual, but I find
- 40:31Speaker 3: myself in the class of the preyed upon in this instance,
- 40:36Speaker 3: and my observation would be that there's a good number
- 40:39Speaker 3: of people who agree entirely with the sentiments expressed by
- 40:44Speaker 3: Roald Dahle, and I'm okay with that. I really don't
- 40:49Speaker 3: need to be defended by the busybodies in academia who
- 40:53Speaker 3: want to suppress popular literature because they just make twits
- 40:58Speaker 3: of us all do.
- 41:00Speaker 2: Another problem with the book was the alleged promotion of
- 41:04Speaker 2: child abuse. Doctor Green was upset that quote threats of
- 41:08Speaker 2: violence towards children are also repeatedly framed as comic moments,
- 41:12Speaker 2: such as when boys are glued to a tree and
- 41:14Speaker 2: when mister Twit threatens to cook them into a boy pie. Denika,
- 41:19Speaker 2: I don't know if doctor Green has children of her own.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Maybe she does, but I don't think she understands children
- 41:25Speaker 2: or their humor.
- 41:26Speaker 18: No, I don't know how many times I glued myself
- 41:28Speaker 18: to another person when I was younger.
- 41:29Speaker 11: Do that account to child abuse?
- 41:31Speaker 5: Maybe?
- 41:31Speaker 11: According to the Left, it does.
- 41:33Speaker 18: You know, this sort of woke censorship, in my opinion, James,
- 41:36Speaker 18: is actually far more worse than what they're trying to
- 41:38Speaker 18: censor here. So they hairy faced men as offensive, a
- 41:41Speaker 18: boy pie ugly and upside down monkeys, they're the offensive part.
- 41:46Speaker 18: So censorship to me is way more offensive than that.
- 41:49Speaker 18: And we're also talking about novels that have entertained children's
- 41:51Speaker 18: yes for decadam and I remember this was like a
- 41:53Speaker 18: rite of passage when you were in school. You had
- 41:56Speaker 18: to read the entire role Dull collection. And they entertain
- 42:00Speaker 18: children because of this humor, and this is how children
- 42:02Speaker 18: actually connect to it, and what we're just going to
- 42:04Speaker 18: shield children from everything these days, and then eventually when
- 42:07Speaker 18: they actually grow up an into the workforce, they're going
- 42:09Speaker 18: to say, actually, you know what, the bearded man jokes
- 42:12Speaker 18: weren't as bad? Is it what life actually can get to? So,
- 42:15Speaker 18: for goodness.
- 42:15Speaker 2: Sake, I'm shocked to know that you read these books
- 42:17Speaker 2: because you turned out quite well.
- 42:18Speaker 11: Oh thanks, Jo, you're not too bad yourself.
- 42:20Speaker 2: I suppose, actually all right, speak of things that have
- 42:23Speaker 2: turned out not so well. The Labor Party, do they
- 42:25Speaker 2: take Anzac Day seriously? Have a look at what Senator
- 42:28Speaker 2: Helen Polly posted to her socials to commemorate the sacred occasion.
- 42:33Speaker 2: Warning it's very cringing and quite disrespectful. Now she's used
- 42:47Speaker 2: a strip club anthem called ass in the air as
- 42:51Speaker 2: the musical background for her Anzac Day post. The lyrics go,
- 42:54Speaker 2: now put your hands on the ground and that ass
- 42:56Speaker 2: in the air long her all the way to her
- 42:59Speaker 2: fat ass. I could tell she's ghetto, but she dressed
- 43:02Speaker 2: with class. Now. I rang Senator Pauli's office Tanika Graham
- 43:06Speaker 2: this morning to ask about the post. They promised someone
- 43:08Speaker 2: call me back with an explanation. No one called me back,
- 43:11Speaker 2: but the post has been deleted. Tom Deniki, Was anyone
- 43:15Speaker 2: in the office think that was a good idea?
- 43:17Speaker 18: Can I just say, you're reading out the lyrics was
- 43:19Speaker 18: a highlight of my night, and I wish you had
- 43:21Speaker 18: put it to it because the actual if you actually
- 43:23Speaker 18: look at the lyrics is ass in n an n
- 43:26Speaker 18: er au double R.
- 43:28Speaker 2: Can you get rapper.
- 43:30Speaker 18: I preferred it had you said it like that, Okay,
- 43:32Speaker 18: so all I could think of because I.
- 43:33Speaker 11: Had a look.
- 43:34Speaker 18: So Helen Polly is sixty nine years old, and I'm
- 43:36Speaker 18: going to give her the benefit of the doubt that
- 43:38Speaker 18: perhaps she didn't know that this song was going on
- 43:40Speaker 18: too the PI.
- 43:40Speaker 11: I don't think that Helen's all of a sudden woke.
- 43:42Speaker 18: It up and you ass in the air is the
- 43:43Speaker 18: song that I want accompanying this post.
- 43:46Speaker 11: So I'm going to we don't know.
- 43:49Speaker 18: We're waiting to hear back that maybe a junior staffer
- 43:52Speaker 18: has gone in put up the post and gone this
- 43:54Speaker 18: would be a fantastic idea, and I think it says
- 43:56Speaker 18: more about the staffer than what it does Helen, though,
- 44:00Speaker 18: I would like a full explanation because clearly this is
- 44:03Speaker 18: not an appropriate song for an ANZAC Day post.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Clearly, Graham just quickly it's been quietly deleted from her feed.
- 44:09Speaker 2: Is that enough for should she make it apology?
- 44:12Speaker 3: I think the issue here, one is the complete lack
- 44:15Speaker 3: of respect for the institution of ANZAC Day.
- 44:17Speaker 19: The other is a lack of quality control in today's politics.
- 44:21Speaker 19: I'm prepared to think that sort of algorithm probably chose
- 44:24Speaker 19: the soundtrack to go with a clip that some younger
- 44:27Speaker 19: person was putting together. No one bothered to check it,
- 44:31Speaker 19: and out it went, And I think that's probably happening
- 44:34Speaker 19: far too often in the way politicians relate today with
- 44:38Speaker 19: the community.
- 44:39Speaker 2: You're both very generous, believing the best of other people
- 44:41Speaker 2: like us. I kind of like it. It's refreshing. Thanks
- 44:43Speaker 2: to both of you for coming on the program. All right,
- 44:46Speaker 2: up next to King Charles will press on with his
- 44:48Speaker 2: visit to the US this week, even after the latest
- 44:50Speaker 2: attempt on President Trump's life. The megal Markle suggests she's
- 44:54Speaker 2: not the cause of her woes. It's all in the planets.
- 44:57Speaker 2: That's up next. Well, joining me now with the latest
- 45:03Speaker 2: from the UK IS Talk TV hosts Samara Gills Samara Welcome.
- 45:08Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump has called King Charles brave for
- 45:11Speaker 2: pressing on with a US trip after the assassination attempt yesterday.
- 45:15Speaker 2: There's likely to be some adjustments made to ensure the
- 45:18Speaker 2: King's safety in America, but this trip is pretty important,
- 45:22Speaker 2: is it not. Well?
- 45:24Speaker 20: Great to be with you, James. Look, this is no
- 45:27Speaker 20: longer a routine royal visit. This is a geopolitical stress
- 45:31Speaker 20: test with a sort of security crisis backed into it.
- 45:35Speaker 20: And you know, if you really wanted to upend the West,
- 45:37Speaker 20: you would actually have the King and Trump and in
- 45:40Speaker 20: one place, and if any guns were to get near
- 45:44Speaker 20: any of them during this time, it would be a
- 45:47Speaker 20: catastrophe for basically the entire Western world. I know I
- 45:51Speaker 20: sound very dramatic, but I think that is the case. Look,
- 45:54Speaker 20: they're both very stoic individuals. We know that the King
- 45:56Speaker 20: when he was in Sydney, he actually suffered an assassination
- 45:59Speaker 20: attempt to be in a blank bullet that was in
- 46:02Speaker 20: nineteen ninety four, and he kind of got up and
- 46:04Speaker 20: kept going, very similar to what Trump did in Butler, Pennsylvania.
- 46:09Speaker 20: So I think we can both be totally fine with
- 46:13Speaker 20: the fact that they're both very strong individuals and I
- 46:16Speaker 20: don't think they'll put up with anyone trying to come
- 46:19Speaker 20: in the way of them and their mission.
- 46:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Okay, I wanted to
- 46:24Speaker 2: ask you about Meghan Markel. I'm not sure if you're
- 46:27Speaker 2: into horoscope, Samara, not my deal, but Meghan Markle seems
- 46:30Speaker 2: to be quite into them. She's taken encouragement from the
- 46:33Speaker 2: stars that the Seven hardest years of her life have
- 46:36Speaker 2: come to an end. She's a leo, and she posted
- 46:40Speaker 2: some horoscopes to her social media saying just that the
- 46:43Speaker 2: hard times ended on April twenty five. She's also shared
- 46:47Speaker 2: a postal Instagram account Spirit Daughter, noting the importance of
- 46:51Speaker 2: April twenty five, saying the tension between who you actually
- 46:55Speaker 2: are and what the world around you was willing to
- 46:57Speaker 2: see has been exhausting in a way that's hard to
- 47:00Speaker 2: explain to people who have not lived it. So samarw
- 47:03Speaker 2: this explains everything. It's not her behavior that's caused the problems.
- 47:07Speaker 2: It's the alignment of the stars.
- 47:09Speaker 20: Yes, of course, I mean seven years of hardship James
- 47:13Speaker 20: in a California mansion in Montecito. Yeah, that's what it's about.
- 47:16Speaker 20: I mean, it's just really tough for her going from
- 47:19Speaker 20: one of the biggest firms institutions in the world, every
- 47:22Speaker 20: single thing at her fingertips, to being whisked away in
- 47:26Speaker 20: Tyler Perry's private jet to California. No, I don't buy
- 47:29Speaker 20: it for a second. And the Queen is rolling in
- 47:32Speaker 20: her grave at the utter tosh that Megan Markle pedals
- 47:35Speaker 20: on her Instagram with astrologies and all that. It just
- 47:38Speaker 20: really really shows how much the Royal family's sort of
- 47:43Speaker 20: brand was right about her and how Meghan has fallen
- 47:46Speaker 20: from grace. But you know, this is classic Megan. Personal
- 47:49Speaker 20: struggle is her public narrative, and she's repositioning herself again
- 47:53Speaker 20: from victim to survivor. You couldn't write it. You know,
- 47:57Speaker 20: she went in Australia, I'm the most trolled person in
- 47:59Speaker 20: the world world saying that to a bunch of survivors.
- 48:02Speaker 20: How dare she genuinely how dare she do that? How
- 48:06Speaker 20: when will she understand that her struggle is absolutely not
- 48:10Speaker 20: the common woman or man's James when well.
- 48:13Speaker 2: I mean there's nothing common about Megan Markle at all.
- 48:16Speaker 2: But I mean posting your star signs on Instagram saying well,
- 48:20Speaker 2: you know, I'm trusting in that that the next period
- 48:23Speaker 2: of my life is going to be better because the
- 48:25Speaker 2: last seven have been so terribly difficult. Does she really
- 48:29Speaker 2: think that's going to endear herself and garner sympathy. I
- 48:32Speaker 2: don't think so.
- 48:34Speaker 20: No, absolutely not, And it's not going to help her
- 48:37Speaker 20: sell those pots of jam that are fast expire, just
- 48:41Speaker 20: like her shelf life as a D listener, I've got no.
- 48:44Speaker 5: Time for the woman.
- 48:45Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, Samara gil always a joy to speak
- 48:48Speaker 2: with you. Thanks for coming on the program. That's all
- 48:51Speaker 2: I've got time for tonight. I'll be back filling in
- 48:53Speaker 2: for Andrew again tomorrow night, but stick around. Coming up
- 48:56Speaker 2: right now is Shari. Good Night,