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The Kenny Report | 26 February · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Live from the sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight, the Prime Minister's Weakness, Week
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Speaker 2: on Islamic State Families, Week on Islamist extremism, and week
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Speaker 2: on grace Tame one nation's next parliamentarian. Former Liberal Senator
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Speaker 2: Cory Bernardi joins me to talk immigration, the Middle East
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Speaker 2: prepares for war again as the world awaits a US
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Speaker 2: struck against Iran.
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Speaker 1: Alexander Downer on all.
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Speaker 2: Of that, also reckless renewables trashing our countryside and the
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Speaker 2: national Cabinet with Tim and Mark on why former Prince
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Speaker 2: Andrew should dismount.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: The arbneezy labor Gardment might not say the words, and
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Speaker 2: the state labor governments might be just as timid, and
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Speaker 2: the police forces and especially the Australian Federal Police will
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Speaker 2: avoid mentioning its name too. Most of the media, most
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Speaker 2: of the time will also never openly refer to this
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Speaker 2: specific form of hate. But despite their jihad denialism, there
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Speaker 2: it is Islamist extremism and the country has to deal
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Speaker 2: with this threat because of terrorist attacks carried out here
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Speaker 2: and thwarted on our shores, and of course the potential
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Speaker 2: for more which is why the attempted return of Islamic
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Speaker 2: state families from Syria is such a hot issue.
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Speaker 1: Reports today suggest that.
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Speaker 2: Apart from the known eleven adults and twenty three children,
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Speaker 2: there are two more extremist women in the Syrian detention camps,
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Speaker 2: but the Prime Minister won't confirm or deny those reports.
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Speaker 3: Look where aware of national security issues, we don't run
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Speaker 3: those through the media. We've said that what we aren't
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Speaker 3: doing is providing repatriation of these people. We've said that
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Speaker 3: we have compassion for the children involved, but that others
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Speaker 3: who chose to travel to that area have made those
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Speaker 3: decisions in life and that was a decision that was
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Speaker 3: certainly contrary to not just Australian advice, but contrary to
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Speaker 3: Australia's national interest.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, those reports of two more Australian extremist women, and
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister there really with nothing to say. The
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Speaker 2: government has struggled to explain why it's been able to
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Speaker 2: slap a temporary exclusion ban on one of the thirty
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Speaker 2: four people but not on.
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Speaker 1: Any of the others.
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Speaker 2: And the campaign in support of this planned repatriation continues. Yesterday,
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Speaker 2: doctor Jamal Riffi, a prominent member of the Australian Lebanese
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Speaker 2: community and a supporter of Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke
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Speaker 2: confirmed that he is in Syria trying to arrange the
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Speaker 2: travel but if he declared, he hadn't sought or received
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Speaker 2: any support from the government and haven't hadn't even.
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Speaker 1: Discussed with them.
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Speaker 2: And today interviews with some of the Islamic State children
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Speaker 2: have been published.
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Speaker 4: I want to go home because my family is done.
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Speaker 5: I want to go to school and I want to
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Speaker 5: learn more things.
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Speaker 4: I want to be a doctor. I want to go
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Speaker 4: to Shawa because because Australia is a beautiful country with
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Speaker 4: very beautiful kind people. When they had to jump back,
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Speaker 4: I was very upset. I was heartbreaking.
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Speaker 2: Now, some of these children were born in Iraq or
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Speaker 2: Syria under the Islamic State Caliphate. Others were taken there
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Speaker 2: as toddlers.
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Speaker 1: You know, Muhammad grew up in Syria.
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Speaker 4: We're a bit scared of him because he didn't grow
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Speaker 4: up in Australia.
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Speaker 5: What would you say to.
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Speaker 4: Them, I'll say, come to the camp and see how
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Speaker 4: actually I comp What do you think they'd realize when
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Speaker 4: they came here, they realize how hard my life was.
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Speaker 4: And they appreciate thead life industry.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, most Australians understand how wonderful this country is, especially
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Speaker 2: in comparison to the terrorist badlands created in the Middle
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Speaker 2: East by Islamic State.
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Speaker 6: What we have here is a group of people who
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Speaker 6: have rejected our way of life, our core beliefs. They
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Speaker 6: have joined a violent death cult, which is what isis
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Speaker 6: is and in doing so, they've turned their back on
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Speaker 6: our country. And we should shut the.
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Speaker 2: Door preserving our country and protecting its people from terror
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Speaker 2: groups that went to war not just against Iraq and Syria,
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Speaker 2: but against Western civilization. Well, that calls for hard decisions,
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Speaker 2: but Alban Easy seems to cast himself merely as a spectator.
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Speaker 1: Just think of it this way. Do you think the adult.
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Speaker 2: Members of these Islamic State families would see the alleged
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Speaker 2: Bondai gunmen.
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Speaker 1: As evil murder or as heroes?
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Speaker 2: And if you have to ponder that question for more
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Speaker 2: than a moment, doesn't that tell you all you need
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Speaker 2: to know about this dilemma? And last night on the ABC,
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Speaker 2: of all places, we learned about another aspect of Islamist
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Speaker 2: extremism doing damage to our country.
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Speaker 1: The seven point thirty program.
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Speaker 2: Focused on a spate of vicious gay bashings in Sydney
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Speaker 2: after young men were lured to meetings on dating apps.
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Speaker 7: And I started walking towards the park and it's like whoa, whoah,
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Speaker 7: whoah wah.
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Speaker 1: I look up his friends.
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Speaker 4: They're all covered in black or came and jumped me.
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Speaker 8: They filmed James as they punched him, held him by
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Speaker 8: the collar and hurled him to the ground.
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Speaker 3: God.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we thought this sort of violent homophobia was a
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Speaker 2: thing of the past, but it's re emerged under a
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Speaker 2: new and disturbing guys.
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Speaker 8: The video later found on the attacker's phones shows one
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Speaker 8: wearing a shahada, a religious emblem appropriated by ISIS.
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Speaker 2: The ABC reporter Sean Rubinstein Dunlop revealed sinister links connecting
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Speaker 2: the people involved in these attacks.
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Speaker 8: In the weeks that followed, the group struck again, with
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Speaker 8: bashings reported across the Sydney City and West. Before the
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Speaker 8: ISIS inspired violence escalated, a sixteen year old associate stormed
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Speaker 8: a live stream church service in Wakeful and starved a
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Speaker 8: bishop who insulted the prophet and hammed. Court documents revealed
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Speaker 8: counter terrorism police uncovered links between the attackers. Investigators alleged
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Speaker 8: they were part of an Isis network.
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Speaker 2: At least some of the offenders have been prosecuted, but
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Speaker 2: the hateful ideology isn't defeated.
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Speaker 8: Five associates, aged just fourteen to seventeen, were separately charged
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Speaker 8: over the gay bashings. Police found gruesome propaganda on their
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Speaker 8: phones and evidence linking them to preachers like Wissam Hadad,
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Speaker 8: a spiritual leader who has publicly endorsed Islamic state.
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Speaker 9: We do not hide from the fact that homosexuality under
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Speaker 9: the Shariah, after being judged with the Kuran and Asunda
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Speaker 9: bay an Islamic judge in an Islami court in Islamic lands,
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Speaker 9: is punishable by death.
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Speaker 2: This is a new example of how the intolerant beliefs
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Speaker 2: of Islamist extremism are having an impact on our community
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Speaker 2: right here and now. Yet still, in one case, a
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Speaker 2: man allegedly involved in Jihada's bashings pleaded guilty to aggravated
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Speaker 2: robbery and walked free without jail time. This shows the
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Speaker 2: extent of our problem with Islamist extremism. The hatred whose
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Speaker 2: name our Prime Minister will not speak. It seems pretty
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Speaker 2: clear to me that the Royal Commission into anti Semitism
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Speaker 2: and Social Cohesion should examine these gay hate issues as
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Speaker 2: part of its deliberations. There are two key diagnoses that
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Speaker 2: I've shared with you about Anthony Alberanesi over the past
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Speaker 2: few years. Two key character assessments, if you like, character
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Speaker 2: flaws that undermine all he does and doesn't do as
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Speaker 2: Prime minister. One is his refusal to take responsibility for anything,
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Speaker 2: and the other is just his weakness. Albanizi is always weak.
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Speaker 2: He is the invertebrate Prime Minister. And let me show
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Speaker 2: you the latest example. Remember he did that little word
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Speaker 2: association game yesterday. I showed you someone he called Pauline
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Speaker 2: Hansen divisive.
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Speaker 1: Well, here's some more. Pauline Hansen.
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Speaker 10: Device it Australia Day, Australia Day, great, great, Tame, difficult.
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Speaker 2: Difficult, She's difficult to say the least I mean here
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Speaker 2: was tame the other week, calling for armed uprising against
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Speaker 2: Israel and Jews around the world.
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Speaker 1: From Gadigal to Gaza Globalize.
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Speaker 5: The InChI final.
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Speaker 11: Won my time, from Gadigol to.
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Speaker 1: Gaza Globalife, she asked, shocking.
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Speaker 2: Albernizi never condemned those remarks because he's weak and all
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Speaker 2: he said yesterday was that Tame is difficult, but he
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Speaker 2: copped some criticism about that. Tame reposted criticism saying difficult
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Speaker 2: is the misogynist code for a woman who won't comply,
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Speaker 2: and Green's leader Larissa Waters also attacked, saying labeling women
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Speaker 2: difficult won't silence us. He won't stop us speaking truth
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Speaker 2: to power. And another Green senator, Marine Ferruki, wrote, from
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Speaker 2: one difficult woman to another, any thorn.
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Speaker 1: In our but easy side is a friend of mine.
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Speaker 2: Sarah Hanson Young joined in too, although she had some
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Speaker 2: difficulty finding the right word to describe it.
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Speaker 8: I think that was a extremely unfortunate.
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Speaker 5: Utterance from the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 12: I understand he has apologized today and that is appropriate
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Speaker 12: and he should have.
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Speaker 2: This stuff is puerile, beyond belief, intellectually vapid. It actually
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Speaker 2: demeans women by suggesting there beyond criticism in public debate,
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Speaker 2: to disagree with a woman is to be a misogynist.
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Speaker 1: Apparently. But if this was.
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Speaker 2: Weak, we only had to wait till this morning to
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Speaker 2: see that Alban easy can always be even weaker.
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Speaker 13: Prime Minister, are all women difficult or is it just
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Speaker 13: grace tame?
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Speaker 14: Do you regret calling her difficult.
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Speaker 3: No, what I was done was I was at a forum.
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Speaker 3: I was asked to describe people in one word, and
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Speaker 3: Grace Tame you certainly can't describe in one word. She
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Speaker 3: has had a difficult life and that was what I
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Speaker 3: was referring to. And what Grace Tame has done is
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Speaker 3: to turn that difficult experience that she had into being
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Speaker 3: a strong advocate for others, which is why she received
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Speaker 3: quite rightly the Australier of the Year award.
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Speaker 5: And you have a good relation with relationship with her.
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Speaker 3: Out I certainly have had. If there was any misinterpretation,
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Speaker 3: then I certainly apologize.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a misinterpretation. His difficult was actually a
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Speaker 2: word of admiration and solidarity. He couldn't even own his
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Speaker 2: own weak word, see what I mean about weakness. Albanize
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Speaker 2: should have apologized for calling Tame difficult. He should have
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Speaker 2: apologized for letting the nation down and failing to show
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Speaker 2: leadership because he should have called her irresponsible, misinformed, reckless, divisive,
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Speaker 2: and he should have called her dangerous.
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Speaker 1: He actually should have called her hateful.
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Speaker 2: Calling for interfata is for terrorists and Islamic state devatees,
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Speaker 2: not for former Australians of the Year.
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Speaker 1: It's a repulsive thing to do.
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Speaker 2: It's an incitement to violence, and it only fuels anti
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Speaker 2: Israel sentiment and anti Semitism. If Albaniz he wants to
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Speaker 2: stop being weak, wants to stand up for civility, democracy,
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Speaker 2: humanity and the rule of law, and if he wants
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Speaker 2: to stand strong against terrorism and anarchy, well he should
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Speaker 2: take his lead not from Grace Tame, but from the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi, who addressed the Kanesset
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Speaker 2: in Jerusalem over night.
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Speaker 5: Be filioy.
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Speaker 1: Be share your grief.
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Speaker 7: India stands with Israel firmly, with full conviction, in this
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Speaker 7: moment and beyond.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mody stood up for humanity, for liberty, democracy and
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Speaker 2: for Israel. He stood against terrorism, a scourge that has
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Speaker 2: long tormented India. Some things aren't too difficult to work out.
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Speaker 2: They just take a bit of spine. Let's catch up
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Speaker 2: now with the Shadow Minister for Defense Industry. Phil Thompson
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Speaker 2: joins us from his hometown of Townsville.
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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Phil.
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Speaker 2: Tell us about your concerns as someone who's fought for
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Speaker 2: this country on the battlefields in the Middle East. What
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Speaker 2: are your concerns about the Islamic state families, the so
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Speaker 2: called ISIS brides trying to get back here.
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Speaker 14: Well, I think it's quite clear that these are not
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Speaker 14: just ISIS brides. These are ISIS members and they have
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Speaker 14: willingly gone to support a terrorist group who has made
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Speaker 14: extreme killings. They have murdered people, they have way war
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Speaker 14: with the West, and there's been some of these ISIS
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Speaker 14: members who have set on their ex account or Twitter
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Speaker 14: account that they should still kill people and attack non believers.
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Speaker 14: I don't think they should be returning to Australia. I
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Speaker 14: think that the Prime Minister has misled the country with
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Speaker 14: the first lot that came home where he said he
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Speaker 14: wasn't helping out but he actually was, and then with
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Speaker 14: this group who are looking to come back him and
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Speaker 14: Tony Burker said, oh, they've got nothing to do with it,
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Speaker 14: but his close political ally is trying to deliver passports
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Speaker 14: to them and they are involved. I don't think it's
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Speaker 14: in the best interest of this country and we should
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Speaker 14: be putting Australians first and making sure that those that
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Speaker 14: don't represent us, don't have our same values, should not
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Speaker 14: be coming back to Australia.
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Speaker 1: Is there any reason.
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Speaker 2: Is there any justification for the secrecy here? The Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister today refusing to confirm or deny whether there were
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Speaker 2: two more Australian women in those Islamic state camps.
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Speaker 14: Well, I think the secrecy goes on the back of
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Speaker 14: a person you cannot trust. I do not trust this
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Speaker 14: Prime Minister and for him to not be upfront with
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Speaker 14: the Australian people should be of grave concern to all
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Speaker 14: of us because if he can't tell us what's occurring
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Speaker 14: because he wants to be dishonest, then there's normally a
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Speaker 14: reason for it. There should not be. He should be
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Speaker 14: open with the Australian people. That's his job as the
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Speaker 14: Prime Minister. Should be telling us exactly what's occurring.
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Speaker 5: He's not.
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Speaker 14: Therefore, we should be pushing him to be public about it.
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Speaker 14: And I believe, and it's my strong opinion and many
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Speaker 14: veterans and sensible people around the country, that if these
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Speaker 14: ISIS members have gone willingly to support a terrorist group,
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Speaker 14: they should not be allowed back just because the person
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Speaker 14: they went married or fought next to has now been killed.
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Speaker 14: That doesn't mean they get a free pass and come
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Speaker 14: back to Australia.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they didn't want to come back when the
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Speaker 2: caliphate was still up and running. They only wanted to
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Speaker 2: come back now when they've lost the war and they're
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Speaker 2: stuck in interment camps. So it's pretty hard to swallow
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Speaker 2: their so called change of heart.
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Speaker 1: But what about the children. We've heard from the children today.
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Speaker 2: Obviously the children haven't committed these crimes, they haven't made
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Speaker 2: these choices.
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Speaker 1: Is there anything that could be done or should be
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Speaker 1: done there?
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Speaker 14: I know previously when there was orphans, there was a
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Speaker 14: pathway to repatriate orphans. But I know this might say
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Speaker 14: on callous, but my belief is no, this is a
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Speaker 14: group that went over to fight and support ISIS. Yes,
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Speaker 14: I understand that they've now had children, but they are
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Speaker 14: with their parent and no, I don't think they should
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Speaker 14: be able to return. You know, the ISIS is the
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Speaker 14: ISIS is a foul project. They went to fight. It
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Speaker 14: didn't work out. They have lost people who have been killed,
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Speaker 14: innocents have been beheaded, tortured, lid on fire. I don't
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Speaker 14: believe we should be opening the door to have those
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Speaker 14: people back in our country.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I suspect that most of the country agrees with you, Phil.
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Speaker 2: I just want to get you on another issue while
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Speaker 2: you're there. You've campaigned so strongly as a veteran yourself
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Speaker 2: in politics for proper processes when it comes to investigations,
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Speaker 2: trials and the like of alleged war crimes by our diggers.
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Speaker 2: Why is this dragging on so long? Why does this
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Speaker 2: paul hang over so many in our defense forces?
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Speaker 14: Well, it shouldn't be dragging on this long. The Brereton
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Speaker 14: report was not a brief of evidence. It was a
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Speaker 14: report given to the Chief of Defense Force with.
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Speaker 5: Some allegations in them.
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Speaker 14: And we live in a country where you are innocent
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Speaker 14: until proven guilty, except with some media outlets. I'm glad
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Speaker 14: to say not this one who's been labeling our veterans
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Speaker 14: and those that have served in our name in Afghanistan
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Speaker 14: as war criminals. And I think that's disgraceful. This is
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Speaker 14: dragged on for far too long. It's cost the taxpayer
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Speaker 14: a lot of money, but more importantly, it's cost the
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Speaker 14: veterans and their families a whole lot more. Now the
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Speaker 14: government needs to tell the OSI to either lay charges
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Speaker 14: and allow those people to have their day in court,
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Speaker 14: or they need to be wound up and stopped. Now
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Speaker 14: I know the government comes out and says, oh, they're
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Speaker 14: an independent group and they're working within independent parameters, or
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Speaker 14: that's incorrect because the oler size is funded by the taxpayer.
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Speaker 14: It's your money, it's the people of Australia's money.
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Speaker 5: They shouldn't be dragged on.
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Speaker 14: I want to see our veterans get back to living
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Speaker 14: the lives that they deserve, not having this cloud hanging
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Speaker 14: over their head.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The problem there is you refer to other reporting.
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Speaker 2: One of those, of course is Ben Roberts Smith, and
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Speaker 2: it means that these allegations have now been tested in
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Speaker 2: an Australian court, but only through a civil court with
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Speaker 2: a lower burden of proof and as a pretty unsatisfactory
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Speaker 2: way to deal with such grave allegations.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: I think it's quite disappointing that because it was in
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Speaker 14: a different court with the lower threshold, that they're allowed
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Speaker 14: to label people with names that haven't been improved in
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Speaker 14: a criminal court. Now, if the OSI or the AFP
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Speaker 14: or anyone decides that they have evidence to charge to convict,
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Speaker 14: then they should do it. If they don't, they should
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Speaker 14: drop it and actually inform the people who have been
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Speaker 14: named as people of interest that they're no longer people
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Speaker 14: of interest and they can get on with living their lives,
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Speaker 14: because I just think it's quite unfair.
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Speaker 2: Phil, thanks for joining us. Justice delayed is justice denied,
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Speaker 2: as they say. Phil Thompson, there's the shadow Minister for
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Speaker 2: Defense Industry. He's from Townsville, which is where he's electorate
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Speaker 2: is the garrison town of Townsville.
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Speaker 1: He is an army veteran himself.
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Speaker 2: Now there's just over three weeks to go now until
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Speaker 2: the South Australian election is going to be the first
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Speaker 2: test for One Nation after its big rise in the polls.
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Speaker 2: I caught up with Premier Peter Malanowskis on Monday and
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Speaker 2: you had to dig at One Nation over immigration.
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Speaker 1: He's a reminder I'm not adverse.
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Speaker 15: To just pressing back a little bit against this idea
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Speaker 15: that all immigration's bad and just trying to divide everybody up.
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Speaker 15: Let's just speak about it honestly and speak to the
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Speaker 15: value that it has culturally but also economically.
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Speaker 2: Let's get a response from the man who's likely to
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Speaker 2: be One Nation's next parliamentarian in the South Australian Upper House,
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Speaker 2: and that is One Nation candidate, former Liberal Party Senator
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Speaker 2: Cory Bernardi thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Corey.
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Speaker 2: What did you make of the premier's assessment of your
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Speaker 2: immigration policies.
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Speaker 16: Well, they say that truth is the first casualty of war,
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Speaker 16: Chris Well, it's the same in an election campaign. I
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Speaker 16: think the Premier has let himself down here by speaking
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Speaker 16: complete falsehoods about one nation's immigrant policy, and at the
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Speaker 16: same time he's trying to borrow a bit of our rhetoric.
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Speaker 16: Now we believe that immigration is far too high in
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Speaker 16: this country. We need to be more discerning about who
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Speaker 16: we allow in. We want to cap it at one
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Speaker 16: hundred and thirty thousand people, but we also want it
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Speaker 16: to be in our cultural, economic and our social interest.
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Speaker 16: And when you've got a premier who is clearly as
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Speaker 16: confident of winning as any politician in history, he's getting
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Speaker 16: a little bit arrogant when he feels that he has
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Speaker 16: to punch down on migrants by saying that they have
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Speaker 16: to do the jobs that Australians won't do. He punches
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Speaker 16: down on the elderly by making fun of some of
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Speaker 16: the end of life decisions and tasks that are taken.
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Speaker 16: And he's now taking aim at his political compatriots who
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Speaker 16: really only have Australia's national interest and our state interest
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Speaker 16: at heart. So he's let himself down and I think
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Speaker 16: Hubris has got him.
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Speaker 2: Look, I think Pauline Hanson has ever said we should
22:55
Speaker 2: have no immigration.
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Speaker 1: I think that's very much a stretch.
22:58
Speaker 2: But she's short and led the debate on immigration nationally
23:03
Speaker 2: about getting the numbers down to a sustainable level, probably
23:06
Speaker 2: lower than most other parties would argue, and obviously being
23:12
Speaker 2: very discerning about who we let in. Do you believe
23:14
Speaker 2: that's the prime reason, the prime policy argument that has
23:18
Speaker 2: seen a surge to one nation in the polls.
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Speaker 16: Well, certainly it's been the consistency with which he's approached
23:25
Speaker 16: this over the recent decades. I mean she's been out
23:27
Speaker 16: it for thirty years. But there's other things as well.
23:30
Speaker 16: There's a cost of living that's really taking its toll
23:33
Speaker 16: on so many families. You've got a disengaged uniparty, the
23:37
Speaker 16: Liberal and Labor Party. The Liberals are all fighting amongst themselves,
23:41
Speaker 16: and Labor in South Australia have been completely unchallenged and
23:44
Speaker 16: feel they can do whatever they want. And you're seeing
23:47
Speaker 16: jobs growth, but only in the public sector. You're seeing
23:49
Speaker 16: record insolvencies. You've got him distracting people with all these
23:53
Speaker 16: events which are very popular, but the state is crumbling
23:56
Speaker 16: behind the scenes. And that's the mark of a group
23:59
Speaker 16: of people who really don't care. They just want power
24:01
Speaker 16: and they want to entertain the masses, but they do
24:03
Speaker 16: not care about the long term future of both this
24:05
Speaker 16: state and this country. And I think that's where one
24:07
Speaker 16: nation is actually speaking up for the people who say
24:11
Speaker 16: there's something wrong. Our lives are not getting better. And
24:14
Speaker 16: you know what, Chris, if bringing in millions of people
24:16
Speaker 16: is going to solve all our problems, why are the
24:18
Speaker 16: problems getting bigger because we've been bringing in millions of
24:20
Speaker 16: people for years now.
24:22
Speaker 2: Now, Corey as a former Liberal senator, you caught up
24:25
Speaker 2: for a beer with the current Liberal Senator alexanderik at
24:29
Speaker 2: the Exeter Hotel on Rundle Street earlier in the week.
24:31
Speaker 2: Looks we've lost We've lost our audio with Corey Bernardi,
24:35
Speaker 2: which is a pity. We'll try and reconnect him because
24:37
Speaker 2: there's a couple of good questions I want to ask
24:40
Speaker 2: him about.
24:41
Speaker 1: We'll take a break.
24:42
Speaker 2: After the break, we hope to catch up on this
24:44
Speaker 2: reckless renewable issue, the problems created in countryside around the nation.
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Speaker 1: Don't go away.
24:53
Speaker 2: Now. I showed you a couple of weeks ago one
24:55
Speaker 2: of the problems with Labour's green dream of the renewables
24:58
Speaker 2: transition abandoned solar farm at gemm along close to Forbes
25:03
Speaker 2: in central western New South Wales. The farm's owner, Vast Renewables,
25:07
Speaker 2: went into administration, leading leaving the plan to go to
25:11
Speaker 2: Rack and Ruin and locals there are up in arms.
25:15
Speaker 2: This was on ben Fordham on two GB this morning.
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Speaker 1: Have a listen.
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Speaker 2: Basically, what there is is a half the Molly's site
25:22
Speaker 2: once all the grasses don't you can see the mess
25:25
Speaker 2: on the ground.
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Speaker 8: It's full of holes, it's the steel and all sorts
25:28
Speaker 8: of stuff.
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Speaker 5: This is a glaring example of where we're going to
25:32
Speaker 5: be in another twenty or twenty five years time when
25:34
Speaker 5: all these other projects come to the end of their life.
25:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, what if they all end up looking like that.
25:40
Speaker 2: Let's go to Anne Webster, the Shadow Minister for Regional Development.
25:43
Speaker 1: She joins us from Sea Lake in the Malley.
25:45
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, And that landscape you
25:49
Speaker 2: see behind you, it's one we're not familiar with in Victoria.
25:52
Speaker 2: But up there in that northwest corner you have a
25:55
Speaker 2: bit of a salt pan. There not very picture skew,
25:58
Speaker 2: as they say.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely now tell us about.
26:02
Speaker 2: Tell us about that abandoned solar farm, and fears will
26:06
Speaker 2: see more of that. I know that NATS are talking
26:08
Speaker 2: about legislation so that renewables companies would have to pay
26:12
Speaker 2: a bond to make sure that there is money there
26:16
Speaker 2: to clean up their sites when they're done, much like
26:18
Speaker 2: mining companies do. Is that a state government push, a
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Speaker 2: federal government push, or we need to see legislation in
26:26
Speaker 2: both jurisdictions.
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Speaker 11: Well, you might remember, Chris that we went into a
26:33
Speaker 11: break in the coalition and in that time I put
26:36
Speaker 11: together legislation that addresses not just rehabilitation post renewables, but
26:43
Speaker 11: also the Prime ag Land Protection Bill. And Allison Penfold.
26:49
Speaker 11: Now that I'm back in the art of Ministry and
26:51
Speaker 11: the coalition, Allison Penfold, my colleague endorsed by the NATS
26:55
Speaker 11: Party Room at a federal level, is bringing that bill
26:58
Speaker 11: on Monday, and it's an incredibly important bill. I of
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Speaker 11: course want to passionately see it come through at a
27:06
Speaker 11: federal level, so much of Malie. I don't want it
27:09
Speaker 11: looking like Gemalong. I mean, what has been left behind
27:14
Speaker 11: by vast is a complete disgrace and we don't want
27:18
Speaker 11: to see that in Malie. This is prime agricultural land.
27:21
Speaker 11: It needs to be protected. Our farmers have been crying
27:23
Speaker 11: out for it for years. I've been talking to you
27:26
Speaker 11: about it for years, and it needs to be followed
27:30
Speaker 11: through with legislation, both at a state level and a
27:33
Speaker 11: federal level.
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Speaker 5: In particular.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's just shocking so much for protecting the environment
27:38
Speaker 2: and even reducing emissions. That should be a pastal land
27:42
Speaker 2: at least now, so you're abating some carbon dioxide, growing
27:46
Speaker 2: some stuff there. Now it's just a mess, but it's
27:48
Speaker 2: also a fire hazard, so hopefully something can be done
27:51
Speaker 2: there in the future.
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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts too on.
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Speaker 2: The concerns we have about indigenous objection being used to
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Speaker 2: prevent development, sometimes last minute indigenous developments, sometimes dodgy ones.
28:07
Speaker 2: Shall we see that are contested. There's that gold mine
28:10
Speaker 2: up near Bathurst that we've talked about in the past.
28:13
Speaker 2: The IPA has done a study showing just how prevalent
28:16
Speaker 2: this is. That often it's environmentalists who go and look
28:20
Speaker 2: for the indigenous objection to try and stop something they
28:23
Speaker 2: don't like.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I'm standing right here at Lake Tyrrel. Right
28:29
Speaker 11: next door is Murray and Marie Allen's place. They have
28:33
Speaker 11: been stopped by Cultural Heritage from developing a small caravan
28:37
Speaker 11: park right next door to this viewing platform. Interestingly enough,
28:42
Speaker 11: funded by the Victorian state government and assisted by federal
28:46
Speaker 11: government to put here, and they have been stopped from
28:50
Speaker 11: doing a very minor change on their own property with
28:54
Speaker 11: a small caravan park, which would therefore give people in
28:58
Speaker 11: Sea Lake some more accommodation options. Now, the problem is
29:03
Speaker 11: that I wrote to Tanya Plippasek when she was in
29:05
Speaker 11: the role as Environmental Minister about this issue.
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Speaker 1: Because the federal.
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Speaker 11: Government now have questions and a report has been done
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Speaker 11: by Terry Bailey which has not seen the light of day.
29:18
Speaker 11: Why not Murray Watt is now the environment Minister. We
29:21
Speaker 11: want to know what is in that report because on
29:24
Speaker 11: their land the cultural archaeologist came and did the check
29:29
Speaker 11: and found nothing. Nothing, and yet they have been stopped
29:34
Speaker 11: from building on their own land. If people don't think
29:38
Speaker 11: this is something that could happen to them, this is
29:40
Speaker 11: private property and they are being stopped from doing what
29:43
Speaker 11: they need to do on their own property. It is
29:45
Speaker 11: honestly a disgrace and terribly concerning.
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Speaker 1: It shouldn't still be happening.
29:49
Speaker 2: You know, I cut my teeth on the Homash Islands
29:51
Speaker 2: so called secret women's business, you know, thirty forty years ago,
29:55
Speaker 2: and we're still getting this sort of stuff put up.
29:56
Speaker 1: It is a big worry.
29:57
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and I appreciate and Webster their
30:00
Speaker 2: let's see lake in northwestern Victoria. Corey Bernardi's re established
30:04
Speaker 2: that link. I want to catch up with him again.
30:06
Speaker 2: Thanks for rejoining us, Sir Cory. We saw those pictures
30:09
Speaker 2: of you and Liberal Senate's Alexandik outside a famous pub
30:12
Speaker 2: there on Rundle Street. Did you talk about recruiting him
30:16
Speaker 2: to one nation or was it something much less sinister?
30:21
Speaker 16: I was much less sinister.
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Speaker 8: Chris.
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Speaker 16: Alex and I are good friends. We have a lot
30:25
Speaker 16: in common. We have concerns about the future of the country.
30:28
Speaker 16: But I did share with him a report that we
30:31
Speaker 16: had our national our state launch. I beg your pardon
30:34
Speaker 16: Saturday night, and it was lovely to walk into a
30:37
Speaker 16: room where everyone was united with one set of common values.
30:40
Speaker 16: And that just doesn't happen in the Liberal Party. You
30:43
Speaker 16: walk in and you've got the wets on one side,
30:44
Speaker 16: the drives on the other. They hate each other and
30:46
Speaker 16: it's really just a plan of how they can stab
30:49
Speaker 16: each other in the back. And I just have to
30:50
Speaker 16: say it's really refreshing to be part of a team
30:53
Speaker 16: that wants to pull in the direction that is in
30:55
Speaker 16: the interests of all South Australians and all Australians when
30:59
Speaker 16: it comes to the national stage now.
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Speaker 2: I talked to Pauline Hanson last night about the income
31:04
Speaker 2: splitting policy that she's champion for ages. She says it's
31:08
Speaker 2: not been costed. Now we know this is an expensive policy.
31:11
Speaker 1: I did some googling today.
31:12
Speaker 2: It looks to me like it would cost at least
31:14
Speaker 2: six or seven billion dollars a year. You can't be
31:17
Speaker 2: taken seriously unless you're going to cost your own policies,
31:20
Speaker 2: can you.
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Speaker 16: Well, of course, Chris, what you've got to do is
31:24
Speaker 16: you've got to come up with policies and then you've
31:25
Speaker 16: got to get the resources in order to do the costings.
31:28
Speaker 16: But you know what, that's six billion dollars the government
31:31
Speaker 16: is getting that should be in the hands of hard
31:33
Speaker 16: working families. And what does the government do with it?
31:35
Speaker 16: You know, they argue over isis brides, or they're spending
31:39
Speaker 16: it on stupid things like the snowy two point zero.
31:41
Speaker 16: I mean that was done when Malcolm Turble proposed it
31:44
Speaker 16: and Angus Taylor. If I recall, it was a beautiful
31:46
Speaker 16: set of figures at two billion dollars. It's now forty
31:49
Speaker 16: billion dollars and it doesn't work. I mean, we can
31:51
Speaker 16: go through so many government programs and government waste. It's idiotic.
31:55
Speaker 16: And Pauline made this point, you cannot rely on the
31:58
Speaker 16: costings that are put forward by any government because they
32:01
Speaker 16: get it so wrong every time. Now, I will back
32:04
Speaker 16: the Australian families having more of their own money in
32:07
Speaker 16: their pocket and being able to decide what to do
32:09
Speaker 16: with it than giving it to mister Albanisi or mister
32:12
Speaker 16: Melanawskis or any of the others who want to pursue
32:14
Speaker 16: ideological agendas that are driving this country backwards, stuff like
32:18
Speaker 16: net zero. Stuff like you know, four hundred thousand immigrants
32:22
Speaker 16: coming in every year, the welfare state is burgeoning. It
32:25
Speaker 16: is you know, we've got a trillion dollars in debt. Chris,
32:28
Speaker 16: this is unheralded. Well, don't rely on anyone.
32:32
Speaker 2: It's going to be fascinating to see how you perform
32:34
Speaker 2: in the South Australian election as a party. You're polling
32:37
Speaker 2: twenty percent at the moment, we'll be fascinating to see
32:39
Speaker 2: whether that holds up into actual and actual votes. On
32:43
Speaker 2: that polling, you're going to get into the Upper House
32:45
Speaker 2: easily and.
32:45
Speaker 1: Take a running mate with you. But do you have
32:48
Speaker 1: any Lower House seats in your sites? Chris.
32:53
Speaker 16: It's up to the voter as of course, and we
32:55
Speaker 16: want to do as well as we possibly can. But
32:57
Speaker 16: you know we're not getting ahead of ourselves. We want
32:59
Speaker 16: to win representation into the State Parliament and whether it's
33:02
Speaker 16: one set or two seats or five seeds, we just
33:05
Speaker 16: want to be the voice for South Australians. And as
33:08
Speaker 16: I said, the Premier has been for four years, no
33:11
Speaker 16: one has questioned anything he's done, and the state is
33:14
Speaker 16: crumbling as a result. It's about time there was a
33:16
Speaker 16: voice sticking up for ordinary people in this state that
33:19
Speaker 16: was consistent and principled and wanted to make a difference
33:21
Speaker 16: in to change politics. I'm happy to be that voice.
33:24
Speaker 16: I hope I'm joined by Carlos Kumber and I hope
33:26
Speaker 16: I'm joined by others. But you know, let's just not
33:29
Speaker 16: get ahead of ourselves. But I guarantee the people of
33:32
Speaker 16: South Australia no one will be a greater champion.
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Speaker 3: For them than me.
33:36
Speaker 2: I hope to catch up with you in Adelaide in
33:39
Speaker 2: coming weeks. Cory, thanks for joining us. Corey Bernardi there,
33:41
Speaker 2: former Liberals Senate. It's a former South Australian president of
33:44
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party.
33:45
Speaker 1: Now one Nation candidate at this state election.
33:48
Speaker 2: Don't go away after the break. The Middle East preparing
33:51
Speaker 2: for war again. There's the world of weights a US
33:53
Speaker 2: strike against Iran.
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Speaker 1: Alexander Downer will join me.
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Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump is keeping quiet on whether he'll
34:04
Speaker 2: strike Iran again. The uncertainty has forced our government and
34:08
Speaker 2: others to evacuate the families of some diplomats from the region.
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Speaker 2: He is Defense Minister Richard Miles.
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Speaker 17: The situation in the Middle East is uncertain. As we
34:21
Speaker 17: have made clear, we are taking precautionary measures in respect
34:25
Speaker 17: of the dependence of those diplomats who are serving, particularly
34:30
Speaker 17: in Israel and Lebanon.
34:33
Speaker 2: Let's go to Adelaide and catch up with the Australia's
34:35
Speaker 2: longest serving foreign minister, the former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer.
34:38
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Alexander. I know we've spoken about
34:42
Speaker 2: the build up against Iran for a long while, but
34:45
Speaker 2: when countries like Australia start moving diplomatic families out of
34:50
Speaker 2: the region, surely it tells us that we've been given
34:54
Speaker 2: some sort of indication there could be some sort of
34:57
Speaker 2: action soon.
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Speaker 18: Well, they're taking into account what sort of retaliation there
35:04
Speaker 18: could be from the Iranians. So the Iranians could fire
35:08
Speaker 18: missiles at Israel, or they could fire missiles into Lebanon.
35:13
Speaker 18: So I mean they're hyper cautious defact, there's no doubt
35:18
Speaker 18: about that, and I don't want to see the diplomats
35:21
Speaker 18: themselves being evacuated. I understand the families would like to leave.
35:26
Speaker 18: If they want to leave, that should be facilitated. But
35:31
Speaker 18: we don't know yet whether there's going to be an
35:34
Speaker 18: American strike on military targets in Iran, but that could happen,
35:41
Speaker 18: and how the Iranians could retaliate. They have limited capability
35:46
Speaker 18: to retaliate.
35:49
Speaker 2: Now, I want to ask you about a major anniversary
35:52
Speaker 2: that comes around this Monday.
35:54
Speaker 1: It's thirty years since this moment in history, and.
35:59
Speaker 19: I want to that the government that I will lead
36:04
Speaker 19: will be a government not only for the people who
36:07
Speaker 19: voted for us, but also for the people who voted
36:10
Speaker 19: against us.
36:16
Speaker 2: Now, presumably on that night, March the second, nineteen ninety six, Alexander,
36:21
Speaker 2: you would have been in the Adelaide Hills at your
36:22
Speaker 2: own election night party. Tell us about the thrill of
36:26
Speaker 2: that victory and whether you and John Howard and Peter
36:31
Speaker 2: Costello and others had any sense that this would lead
36:35
Speaker 2: to a long and stable era of government.
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Speaker 18: Well, we had no idea, of course, how long we
36:43
Speaker 18: would survive. But it was a very exciting night. We
36:47
Speaker 18: had lost in nineteen ninety three, the so called unlosable
36:51
Speaker 18: election when John Karson was our leader, and we'd lost
36:55
Speaker 18: a few elections before that. So to come back and
36:58
Speaker 18: win an election we're actually a mighty majority, the third
37:02
Speaker 18: biggest majority in Australian Federation history. It was really exciting,
37:10
Speaker 18: There's no doubt about that. And the thing I would
37:13
Speaker 18: say is we knew that night exactly what we wanted
37:18
Speaker 18: to do, and when we got into government, we got
37:22
Speaker 18: on and we did it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a crucial point. You had a plan and
37:27
Speaker 2: you worked hard implementing it. I just want to plug
37:29
Speaker 2: the documentary that we're running here. There's some events around
37:32
Speaker 2: the place and wonderful events planned to commemorate and celebrate
37:36
Speaker 2: this anniversary. Here at Sky News, we're running the documentary
37:39
Speaker 2: that's hosted by Chris Juelman. It's called John Howard, A
37:43
Speaker 2: Life in Politics and it's going to wear on Wednesday,
37:46
Speaker 2: the eleventh of March at seven thirty pm.
37:49
Speaker 1: While we're on elections, Alexander.
37:51
Speaker 2: I've got to get your thoughts on the South Australian election.
37:54
Speaker 2: Obviously you're a South Australian politician. You haven't been in
37:58
Speaker 2: state politics, but you've seen the ebbs and flows there
38:01
Speaker 2: over the years. The Liberals in South Australia are in
38:05
Speaker 2: all sorts of strife.
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Speaker 1: They've been in a mess for a long while.
38:10
Speaker 2: You're just expecting a disaster for them come March the
38:13
Speaker 2: twenty first, aren't you.
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Speaker 14: No.
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Speaker 18: I think they'll do better than you imagine at this stage,
38:21
Speaker 18: and I, by the way, think one nation will do
38:24
Speaker 18: less well than the polls show. At the moment. It's
38:28
Speaker 18: clear that Labor are going to win the election. But
38:32
Speaker 18: the Liberal leader, Ashton Hern has done a superb job
38:37
Speaker 18: and I wouldn't you know, I've minced my words otherwise,
38:41
Speaker 18: if she wasn't very good, I wouldn't criticize her, but
38:44
Speaker 18: I would be cautious in.
38:45
Speaker 5: What I said.
38:46
Speaker 18: But actually she's been extremely good and in these circumstances she's.
38:52
Speaker 5: Also been very brave.
38:53
Speaker 18: So I think you know they will do they will
38:58
Speaker 18: do better than next. And the other thing about One
39:02
Speaker 18: Nation is, as you just heard from Cory Bernardi, they
39:06
Speaker 18: they say they will do things, but they have no
39:09
Speaker 18: idea how they would cost them, how they would pay
39:12
Speaker 18: for anything. They're really just a protest party. They're not
39:16
Speaker 18: a party of government, and they're not serious in terms
39:20
Speaker 18: of what they could achieve in government because they know
39:23
Speaker 18: they're not going to be in government.
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Speaker 2: You know Cory Bernardi pretty well, would he be handy
39:28
Speaker 2: in the upper house of the State Parliament.
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Speaker 18: Well as a person, he's a very nice guy, there's
39:36
Speaker 18: no doubt about that. Even though we have our political disagreements.
39:41
Speaker 18: You can like people and disagree with their politics absolutely
39:47
Speaker 18: and and by the way, that's to be encouraged.
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Speaker 2: Sure there's not enough of it around, Alexander, thanks so much.
39:53
Speaker 1: For joining us.
39:54
Speaker 2: Alexander down to the former foreign minister telling us that
39:58
Speaker 2: One Nation won't be quite strong in the South Australian
40:01
Speaker 2: election as the polling suggests.
40:03
Speaker 1: I think that's the interesting thing about the election.
40:05
Speaker 2: Can that polling success for one nation turn into votes
40:09
Speaker 2: on the day and coalition and one nation people right
40:12
Speaker 2: around the country will be waiting for that and watching
40:15
Speaker 2: that very very closely. We've got to take a break
40:17
Speaker 2: on the other side of that, the National Cabinet with
40:19
Speaker 2: Tim and Mark. We'll talk about lots of things, but
40:22
Speaker 2: including why for Prince Andrew should dismount. Okay, let's get
40:32
Speaker 2: the National Cabinet in session with Tim Blair in Western
40:35
Speaker 2: Victoria and Mark magnicholicent from step Mate Studios in the
40:39
Speaker 2: heart of Melbourne, in the green left heartland of Melbourne. Now,
40:43
Speaker 2: I know both of you guys follow the energy debate
40:46
Speaker 2: very closely and you're worried about this country's energy future.
40:50
Speaker 2: Worry no longer because we've got the Waratah super battery
40:55
Speaker 2: only cost a billion dollars.
40:57
Speaker 1: Listen to how good it is.
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Speaker 12: Super battery project is critical for New South Wales energy security.
41:04
Speaker 12: As coal fired power stations close. It will allow electricity
41:08
Speaker 12: consumers in the Hunter, Sydney and Illawarra regions to access
41:12
Speaker 12: more energy from existing generators elsewhere in the state. The
41:16
Speaker 12: project involves the construction of one of the world's largest
41:19
Speaker 12: grid scale battery energy storage systems.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's going to be great, isn't it.
41:24
Speaker 2: Mark a billion dollars and you get seven hundred megawatts
41:28
Speaker 2: for two hours. You could build a gas fired power
41:31
Speaker 2: station or coal fired for that matter, that would produce
41:35
Speaker 2: one thousand megawatts every hour in perpetuity for that sort
41:39
Speaker 2: of money. But we just want a couple of hours
41:41
Speaker 2: of battery power. How's that going to work for us?
41:45
Speaker 20: Crash crash creature being far too negative.
41:47
Speaker 5: Look how beautiful that animation was. It wasn't it just wonderful.
41:49
Speaker 5: It was whiz bang.
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Speaker 20: It looked fantastic. And I bet you it was expensive.
41:54
Speaker 20: I bet you was expensive, just like the entire project is.
41:57
Speaker 20: And it's not going to work. It didn't sell me
42:00
Speaker 20: exactly what's happened. This thing's blown up. And you know,
42:02
Speaker 20: spare a thought for the investors too, Chris. They've lost
42:04
Speaker 20: a lot of our taxpayer money on this. It's not good.
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Speaker 5: It's a real tragedy.
42:08
Speaker 2: The aesthetics of something else that made tim I can't
42:10
Speaker 2: wait from these things are up and running.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the Greenies, no.
42:13
Speaker 2: Doubt, we'll go down there with their picnic rugs and
42:16
Speaker 2: have a vegan picnicies.
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Speaker 13: I haven't seen such beautiful architecture since the last private
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Speaker 13: prison opened, did Victoria. It's a spectacular And also what
42:27
Speaker 13: Warri Pass super battery is a really long way to
42:29
Speaker 13: say uncontrolled rural fire. You know it's going to be
42:34
Speaker 13: just by the way. Just talking talking about our future
42:37
Speaker 13: power generation deeds. You can either go that way with
42:40
Speaker 13: two hours of guaranteed power, you know, as back up,
42:43
Speaker 13: or you can do what I'm plenty doing what a
42:45
Speaker 13: lot of people are plenty of, what a lot of
42:46
Speaker 13: people are already doing in regional Australia, which is buying
42:49
Speaker 13: your own personal generator, even a sort of a basic
42:51
Speaker 13: Honda model. You'll get eight hours running out of those
42:54
Speaker 13: on one take of fuel, and everyone's going through it
42:57
Speaker 13: because of obvious reasons in sort of alps.
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Speaker 2: At this point, I love those picks. I'm certain the
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Speaker 2: AI generated. You've got the Tesla telling the trailer with
43:06
Speaker 2: the generator on the back.
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Speaker 1: That's a full proof plan.
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Speaker 2: Now let's turn our attention to the ABC, because so
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Speaker 2: they've had a look at their gender pay gap, that's
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Speaker 2: one of their issues, one of their imagendary issues. They
43:18
Speaker 2: like to attack in the in their news coverage day
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Speaker 2: in and day out. But apparently they demand the gender
43:26
Speaker 2: pay equity across the country in their editorial judgments. But
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Speaker 2: at the ABC they're ten percent behind. The blokes are
43:34
Speaker 2: getting ten percent more than the women.
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Speaker 5: Mark.
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Speaker 1: This is outrageous. They should be on strike.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, mate.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, look I went down there today and I really
43:43
Speaker 20: I try to rustle them up and get demand some
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Speaker 20: answers from the ABC.
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Speaker 5: But you know, I don't want to defend them too much.
43:49
Speaker 5: But you've got to.
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Speaker 20: Remember the genders are constantly in flux there every day.
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Speaker 5: That's the market. They're changing all the time, that's right.
43:56
Speaker 5: So one minute there's more women.
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Speaker 20: There's new categories all the time as well, so that
43:59
Speaker 20: the pay gap, it's just always in flux.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that ten percent pay gap actually only existed
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Speaker 2: at nine am on Tuesday the thirteenth, So they've got
44:09
Speaker 2: to be a bit more specific breast.
44:11
Speaker 5: Moment in time.
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Speaker 2: They are actually getting ready to go on strike over
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Speaker 2: paid timm. I think we discussed this the other day.
44:18
Speaker 2: So they're ready to go out on strike, but don't
44:22
Speaker 2: forget that they're head of news Justin Stevens. Have a
44:25
Speaker 2: look at this. He just pocketed one hundred and ten
44:28
Speaker 2: thousand dollars pay rise, not a salary of one hundred
44:32
Speaker 2: and ten thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: He got a pay rise of one hundred and.
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Speaker 2: Ten thousand dollars. There's all the money's going. They should
44:39
Speaker 2: use that for the pay rises for everyone else, and
44:41
Speaker 2: it might help get rid of the tender pay gap
44:43
Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 13: I like how the ABC complains all the time about
44:47
Speaker 13: problems that it can solve within itself.
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Speaker 5: But it doesn't.
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Speaker 13: So you've got the you know, they always complain about
44:54
Speaker 13: gender pay differences, and then we find out that this
44:56
Speaker 13: is occurring, and then they complain all the time. This
44:59
Speaker 13: is going back decades. They complain about the gap between
45:02
Speaker 13: rich and paul. Well, a really easy way to increase
45:04
Speaker 13: the gap between rich and paul is to take money
45:07
Speaker 13: off ordinary taxpayers and give it to people at the
45:09
Speaker 13: ABC's already rich.
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Speaker 2: To take payers who earned taxpayers money and give it
45:15
Speaker 2: to someone who's earning seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
45:18
Speaker 2: a year. That's that's what I call world three distribution.
45:21
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's going in the direction they suggested,
45:24
Speaker 2: let's have just check it on the royals or formal rules.
45:27
Speaker 2: I actually got to talk about all the former royals
45:29
Speaker 2: because Harry and Meghan are actually visiting refugee camps and
45:34
Speaker 2: the like in Jordan. Now, Jesus, are these two Are
45:39
Speaker 2: they going to bring peace to the Middle East?
45:41
Speaker 4: Tip?
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Speaker 13: Oh my word, I mean, you know, I suppose it
45:45
Speaker 13: makes makes the Jordanians feel like find is here is
45:49
Speaker 13: someone who's worse off than us. Here's someone who's doing
45:55
Speaker 13: do it tougher than the people in the refo camps.
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Speaker 1: It's just.
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Speaker 13: Could they be any more? Cringe as the children say,
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Speaker 13: this is getting this is getting epic. This is gold
46:06
Speaker 13: medal wind to Olympics level cringe, God bless them.
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Speaker 2: Maybe the Palestinian leadership will love it, Mark, because they
46:12
Speaker 2: see some people who look even more disingenuous than they do.
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Speaker 5: Mate, you're actually spot on it.
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Speaker 20: And if you look at the commentary, like these people,
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Speaker 20: these refugees, they've been handed it, they've had a rough try,
46:23
Speaker 20: but they have garnered more sympathy in the last twenty
46:25
Speaker 20: four hours for spending an afternoon with these two narcissists
46:28
Speaker 20: than what they have for their entire tragic life. Honestly,
46:32
Speaker 20: the outpouring of support, it's truly a humanitarian effort what
46:35
Speaker 20: these two narcisists.
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Speaker 5: Have done them get.
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Speaker 1: These people out of out town.
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Speaker 2: The other former royal, of course, is Prince Andrew. We
46:46
Speaker 2: don't call him prince anymore, but he is Andrew's son
46:48
Speaker 2: of the late Queen, brother of the king, and he's
46:51
Speaker 2: out at Sandringham. But even though he's on the farm there,
46:54
Speaker 2: Tim he's been told he can't ride the horse. Get
46:57
Speaker 2: off the horse, because if you go out horse riding,
47:00
Speaker 2: we will get photos of you. In other words, stay
47:02
Speaker 2: in your bedroom.
47:05
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're not traveling very well when you're banned, even
47:07
Speaker 13: from a horse. I think out of all of this
47:12
Speaker 13: recent stuff, I mean, there's a lot of lessons we
47:13
Speaker 13: can we can pick up from the former Prince, but
47:16
Speaker 13: one of them is, you know how we always see,
47:18
Speaker 13: since the invention of photography, whenever anyone's been in trouble,
47:21
Speaker 13: they conceal their face, you know, coming out of court.
47:24
Speaker 13: And now we know why you do that. It's so
47:27
Speaker 13: you don't end up with the world's most embarrassing mugshot
47:30
Speaker 13: be pasted everywhere around the world, because you look like
47:32
Speaker 13: you look like you've been hooked up to a two
47:35
Speaker 13: and forty velt outlet.
47:37
Speaker 1: In the back of the liver.
47:39
Speaker 2: All those palaces, all of those riches, all of those estates,
47:44
Speaker 2: and Andrew couldn't crack it for a hoodie. What he
47:46
Speaker 2: desperately needed was a hoodie. All this talk about horse
47:50
Speaker 2: riding and staying off the horses, Mark, I don't know why.
47:54
Speaker 2: It just reminded me of those old Spice ads about
47:57
Speaker 2: horse riding have a little.
47:59
Speaker 5: Did you know, prefer old space for them men one
48:02
Speaker 5: but jillion times more than lady scentered body washers. Did
48:07
Speaker 5: you know that I'm riding this horse backwards?
48:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like fun, but Prince Andrew is not
48:16
Speaker 2: allowed to do that.
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Speaker 1: Former Prince Andrew Mark.
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Speaker 5: No mate. Look, And to be honest, I think the
48:22
Speaker 5: pr people are right. It's look.
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Speaker 20: If I was in the Epstein files, I wouldn't want
48:26
Speaker 20: to be photographed mounting anything.
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Speaker 5: That would not be a good look at all.
48:29
Speaker 20: But the true trotting around smiling on the back of
48:32
Speaker 20: a horse like an old Spice ad, you wouldn't definitely
48:34
Speaker 20: not want that.
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Speaker 5: That's not good. In the background, I would like to
48:36
Speaker 5: see everyone just stay inside.
48:38
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him backwards on a horse that
48:40
Speaker 2: would suit nicely. I think they said, you want to
48:43
Speaker 2: get Tim and Mark, we'll catch you next week. We're
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Speaker 2: right out of time. Coming up next is Steve Price
48:48
Speaker 2: filling in for Peter Quicklin. I'll see you next week