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January 27 Court Hearings: Judge Boyd, Simpson, Middleton + More | TCF Podcast #218 · The Courtroom Files

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Good morning, everybody. Happy Tuesday.
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Yeah, it's Tuesday. Welcome to TCF LIVE.
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Good to have you all here getting started just a few
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minutes early. We'll kick it off in Michigan.
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Judge Middleton. Michael Graham Yes, Mr. Graham,
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you got a ticket for driving with no insurance.
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We get lots of those. Sometimes they're coupled with
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no registration. Driving with no insurance is a
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misdemeanor. It's punishable by up to a year
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in jail on a fine of up to $500. Carries not less than $200.
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Welcome to Centerville. Good morning, Sir.
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Oh, I'm sorry, Joanna. Well, good morning.
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I'm just checking in. Haven't been here in a while.
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I have 8:30. Yes I've got the pre exams.
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Also, I've got a number of arraignments you and I met over
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the. Zoom.
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Feed but check in with the prosecutor and you win the best
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dressed award today, I think. So you got that going for you.
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So I'll see you in a little bit. Thank you.
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Your Honor. All right, Mr. Stickley, you
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come in a close second, But they dress better in Detroit, I
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think. Anyway, Mr. Graham.
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The. Question I ask everybody is, do
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you have insurance now? Yes.
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Do you have it with you? Yeah.
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All right. Who's your insurance?
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Carrier cure auto insurance do. You have it on your phone or?
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I have to print it out. All right, very good.
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You have a seat. We'll refer to the prosecutor in
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a bit and see what we're going to do.
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Let me just tell everybody now, if you're charged with no
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insurance, it's a misdemeanor. It's punishable by up to a year
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in jail. It requires you to be
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fingerprinted. That carries a minimum fine of
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$200 plus cost. Very usually when the people
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come in and show that they have insurance, the prosecutor's
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willing to dismiss the misdemeanor charge for a plea to
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a civil infraction called no proof of insurance.
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And no proof of insurance is punishable by up to a fine.
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It's not even a crime. It's a civil infraction.
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The fine is $150.00. So why don't you have a seat?
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We'll come back to your case when we get a break.
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Mr. Stickley will touch base with the prosecutors.
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I lost Mr. George for a minute. He's the three of our city
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attorney. It's very helpful to have him
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here and sometimes Mr. Reed, on behalf of Sturgis and Three
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Rivers, because they can help me make decisions right here in the
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courtroom. Let's talk to Lynn Marie Kelly.
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Miss Kelly, would you come forward?
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Good morning. Good.
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Morning. You got the same ticket as the
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last gentleman, no insurance. And as I mentioned, often this
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is coupled with a registration plate charge and so you're
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charged with that. I have an appointment.
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So I'll ask you the same question.
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Do you have insurance? She doesn't have her.
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The plate is in process or sort of a title issue.
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It might behoove us on this one to have her come back, you know,
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it's kind of inconvenient and get some sort of a global
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resolution because then she'll have both.
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Just say, all right, so you have insurance, but you're working on
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getting the plate straightened out.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for the title. How long will that take?
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I got it from my boss, he filed for a lost title and we're just
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waiting for him to get it in the mail.
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I don't know how long it takes. All right.
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Well, I think Mr. Stickley's advice is probably good.
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If we adjourn this and you come back in and show you got a
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proper plate and proper insurance, prosecutor is very
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likely to help work out something out that won't be so
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expensive. OK, Are you missing work right
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now? All right, well, let's set this
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out a couple weeks. February 17th at 8:30.
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Is your Schoolcraft address still correct?
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Yes. Good morning, Miss Harden.
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Mr. Rainey got himself arrested last night.
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He failed to appear on that MDLP case I think.
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He's going to warrant for the truth circuit for two.
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Weeks. So while you're here, I thought
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I would at least at some point. Zooming, man, have you got a
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commitment to be someplace else? I have.
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Sentencing. Judge Edison.
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All right, we'll fit it in sometime while you're still here
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this morning. He's not going anywhere.
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That will be Tuesday, February 17th at 8:30 bringing proof of
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insurance and plate. If you got convicted of all of
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this, the minimum fine would be about $525.00.
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So that's money better spent on getting your plate and your
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insurance. And then I'm reasonably sure the
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prosecutor will get some consideration.
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So let's try again in three weeks, see if we can get your
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plate straightened out and you're good to go.
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That's it. Thank you.
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We do have a bunch of pre exam conferences which are felony
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cases that are theoretically set to start at 8:30, but it isn't
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general is possible to do all the misdemeanor arraignments in
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15 minutes. I still don't have Mr. George,
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so let's keep going here. Stewart Udvarti, please come
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forward. Good morning Sir.
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You got charged again with driving with no insurance and
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driving suspended. The file number is 2681 SM and
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269 or 8 two I guess. You have paid all your previous
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fines and costs, but you keep getting the same charges.
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This time I just go ahead. I had, I had to leave work early
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and well, I had to go to the hospital all.
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Right. Well, don't don't say much about
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are you still working at Metal Technologies?
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Yeah, I was headed to the hospital.
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You headed the hospital? Well, there's a defense for
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driving suspended if you are. I'm going to a medical
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emergency. You could end up going to jail
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for this because you've got so many of these.
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My recommendation, probably Mr. Stickley's as well, would be
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that you plead not guilty, get a lawyer to help you with this.
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Is that acceptable? Are you missing work right now?
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Yeah. I like the. 3rd shift.
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So you've been up all night. All right, let's take a look at
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your ticket. 3:00 in the morning, Broadway
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and Constantine, which is kind of on the way to the hospital
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stop for running a stop sign at Constantine at Broadway said no
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license and the car was not insured.
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All right, they're not guilty. Says he was on the way to the
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hospital. Was set an attorney pretrial.
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For March 6th, these first Fridays of the month have just
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become so dense. We have 75 cases set for Friday
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with about 60 defendants, and that's a lot to try to do in one
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half, one morning. But that just happens.
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Each month we have more and more cases.
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Anyway, Mr. Rivardi, I'm going to get you a lawyer to help you
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with this. I know you've got an
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explanation, but I want you to save it.
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You can share with your lawyer and they can share with the
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prosecutor's office. As I said, I don't think you owe
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me any money, but you paid all your obligations to the court.
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But you got a lot of baggage on your driving record.
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So you go to court officer and no, that's the no insurance
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case. Amanda Sawyer,
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Good morning. Are you Amanda Lee Sawyer?
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I am Miss Sawyer, on the same boat as our other no insurance
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cases. Your case is file number 25 2711
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SM doesn't appear that you owe the court any money.
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But you are also charged with no insurance and no valid
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registration or no valid operator's license.
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One is under state statute 1 is under ordinance.
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Do you have insurance now? I do.
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And what's the status of your driver's license?
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I just renewed my permit again. All right, who's your insurance
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carrier? Direct
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auto. All right, we're going to need
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help from both the city attorney and the prosecutor.
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Have a seat. Also, the fact that you've got
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insurance is good. The fact that you got your
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license straightened is also good.
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We do have a couple of free trials this morning and the
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stole is probably working on over several 8:30.
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All right, still no Tim George. So his last ordinance case.
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Is a bullet. Yeah, he's probably working on
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his other stuff. And in the meantime, Mr. Reset's
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file. This must be stuck to something
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else. Oh, that's a felony case,
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William Huey. Well, the next contestant lines
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up. Good morning once again,
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everybody. Welcome to TCF Live.
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Good to have you all here. Slow start so far in the courts
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this morning. There's only a couple of things
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up and running, but I've got my eyes out as I always do.
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We'll continue to ride with Middleton for a little while.
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Yeah, William Christopher Huey. Yes, Sir.
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He met before but I need to identify it for the Bradford.
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Anyway, this is file number 26751 ordinance case.
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Generally the ordinance offence is punishable by the same
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punishment, fine and cost and potential jail time as a
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misdemeanor. Good morning, Mr. Bland.
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I didn't know you were scheduled to be here this morning.
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Who are you representing? Something in on Xavier
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Eddington, something from Mr. Gibson.
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I don't know if he's here yet. I sent him a sub but he hasn't.
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Is Mr. Edgington in custody, Sir?
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Is he in custody? No, Sir.
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Oh, very good. OK, well, it's nice to see you.
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You too, Mr. Huey. Let's take a look at your
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ticket. You got an old unpaid careless
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driving ticket where you owe $234 from 2021.
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I have an unpaid booking fee, but I don't much care about that
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one. It could be the wrong William
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Healey, so we'll take a look at it.
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There's more than one, as you know.
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Let's talk about this ticket. It was at 2:00 in the afternoon
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on January the 9th 4th St. in Michigan.
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No other notation on it. Shows your driving privileges
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are revoked. I just saw you last year and
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that careless driving ticket is still on there.
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Is unpaid. Yeah, I didn't know nothing
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about that. I thought I told you last time,
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but perhaps not. But I can pay that today.
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Probably. All right, that would help.
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That would help a lot. I didn't know nothing about
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that. I had all my stuff paid off.
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Last time in September, you pled the driving suspended pay the
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fine. I can't tell whether I reminded
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you it was Judge Patterson. Have a seat, Mr. Healy.
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When Mr. George, the three over city attorney comes back, we'll
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talk to you for a minute. Darcy Bess.
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I was holding off on these for Mr. George.
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Barbara, thank you for gifting membership.
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I'm pretty sure this is the second or third time American
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smokers gotten the gifted membership, but thank you.
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You got a ticket at Walmart where everybody gets their
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ticket for retail fraud. That was on January the 10th.
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Retail fraud. I think this is intended to be a
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ordinance case, unless Mr. Reed as the attorney and I don't know
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a thing about it. Under ordinance, retail fraud is
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a misdemeanor. It's punishable by up to 90 days
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in jail on a fine of up to $500. Doesn't appear that you got
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anything pending here. You're from Cassopolis?
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Yes, Sir. All right, I'm going to ask you
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to have a seat for a minute, and we'll wait for Mr. George to
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come back. Three Rivers does have a civil
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infraction that could perhaps fit this.
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Kevin Lyle, BB. Told me to tell you I paid my
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ticket. When I owe 200 bucks, I.
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Oh good, that's the good. News I didn't even know I had
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warrants. My brother's, my brother's wife.
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So actually BB, she works for 911, she told.
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Me about it, I was like what we got two row open warrants.
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So let's talk about all this. You're here today for an
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arraignment on a charge of disorderly person from September
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11th. That's file. 2. 51903 You didn't
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show up for arraignment. Yeah, that when I moved, I moved
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to Florida, then I came back. And went.
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To rehab for my. Alcohol.
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Then I forgot I forgot about it. Let's look at the first one, not
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to. Interrupt, but I'm going to
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interrupt. Lindsay.
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Thank you for gifting 10 memberships.
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Lindsay had my back yesterday and I called that out of the pre
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show today. And all of you, I just want you
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to know the trail mean a lot to me.
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You tune in every day, you watch, you've got my back.
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You're very supportive and I just appreciate all of you.
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So Lindsay and the rest of you, thank you so much.
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Beginning of December. What's your new job?
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I'm working at Summit Polymers. I'm actually making a car parts
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for police cars dashboards. The port explores the 2026 ones.
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Well, this one was Holy Smoly, the one in September 11th.
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Public intoxication Somewhere you were a .368.
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Did they say that I went to rehab?
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Though I I went to, did they take you to the hospital?
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I was supposed to take you to the hospital if you're above 32.
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I don't remember. I don't.
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At .383 if they put a Wick in your mouth and lit it, it would
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burn. And yeah, I know.
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That's why I I, I moved to Florida for a little while.
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Then I came back and I went to rehab.
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And then my brother's wife works for 911, Ashley Beebe.
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She told me, oh, you got warrants.
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I was like, what? Well, I looked them up, man.
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I called you guys get a court date if you get this stuff taken
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care of. All right, I don't know where
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the. Where did you go in Florida?
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Miami. Warmer there than here, but it's
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a lot more expensive. Yeah, I know.
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That's why I came back, because I couldn't afford it down there.
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All right, you have an open warrant for another disorderly
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person and file 251299. That's from July 1st of 2025.
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That actually precedes the September case and the other
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warrant is on the same date. Now two days later, September
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13th, 252536 hold down to 5 1299.
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I am a full of rich people and poor people.
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I know, yeah, I know. This is it's mostly all poor
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people, but let's go downtown. But I couldn't afford it down.
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Here so I I'm going to ring on all cases I have no.
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Clue where the retail fraud came from?
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Well, let's take a look at it. I never arrested for it.
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That was the 13th. Sometimes they'll review a video
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or something. Let's see what the retail fraud
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is about. I don't think I'm stealing 36.
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It allegedly occurred at Walmart on September 13th.
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Oh, yeah, They followed you. It came out of the bathroom.
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This is all on video. You took some allegedly some
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boots, 6898, A Lunchable grilled cheese 398, some Klondike
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Reese's Six pack 7318. They have a video of you walking
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in the store and walking out of the store with you wearing the
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stolen boots. I must be.
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I must have been drunk well. All right.
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I just don't want to lose my job.
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I kind of want to get all this stuff taken care of too.
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Well, I'm going. To recall the warrants.
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Thanks. I want to appoint an attorney.
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Let's see what else we've got here.
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You don't seem to have any. Oh, yeah, you do.
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You paid that $200 fine today. Yes, Sir.
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All right. Very good.
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I got about 50 bucks right? Now, are you presented yourself
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at the court on these warrants? You paid an outstanding fine, so
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it shows good faith on your part.
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You're back in the community. I'm going to appoint an
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attorney, said attorney Pretrial 43626 at 8:30.
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I have lost Mr. George for those other pretrials.
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All right, you go out to the counter, we'll get a lawyer.
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What shift are you working at Summit?
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2nd shift. You won't have to miss work.
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It's expensive living at the motel.
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All right, the ladies at the counter are going to give you
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your attorney's name and number. I want you to call that lawyer,
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make an appointment to discuss this matter with them prior to
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March 6th, and I'll see you at 8:30 that morning.
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All right, Sir. Thank you very much.
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Let's talk about. Great, Granny, Thank you for the
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$5. You say I like TCF because you
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can listen in peace. Well, thank you.
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We try to do that around here, you know, just have a a place
27:16
where people can gather and it's welcoming and enjoyable.
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And but we're still watching some serious stuff.
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But I'm glad you enjoy it and thanks so much for being part of
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the community and thank you again for the Super chat.
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All right, good morning once again, everybody.
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TCF live on a Tuesday. It's good to have you all here.
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Let's change it up. We've got some other courts
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starting to come online now, but let's stay in Michigan, Go over
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and say good morning to Judge Dad.
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So what happened here? So Miss Vander, I don't want to
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mispronounce it. I apologize.
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I came into the dealership to purchase a vehicle and when she
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purchased that vehicle. She.
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Was supposed to bring back a cashier's check for the amount
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that she owed and she never did. Did you sign the title over?
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We did. We stated it part.
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She. Wait a minute, you signed the
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title over to her? Did she register it with the
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Secretary of State? Why would you do that before you
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got the money? Or was this a later payment
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balloon payment at the end? It was.
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If you look on the attachment Sir, you'll see the payment plan
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that she organized for the dealership.
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Geez, I see. OK, good enough.
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So she owes you guys. She got the car, she didn't pay
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for it. You have.
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You still are owed 6216 dollars. Thank.
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You and $0.60. You should have some court costs
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too. Can you give me a breakdown of
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those? I need to know what you paid
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for. Do you know it was $75?
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OK. To follow file.
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Or court fees was $70. Sir, I have those receipts with
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me. So 75 and 70, right, Yes.
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That's correct. So that's $145.00 and on top of
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the 6216 60. So that should be another 145.
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That should be 636160, right? All right, judgment is entered.
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I'm going to give you a copy of. I'm going to ask you to go down
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the hall. Just give him a couple minutes.
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He'll bring the file down. I filled out the judgment for
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you When you're all set. I hope you can collect that.
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Best of luck. Thank you, Sir.
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Is Flat Rock out there, people against Sterling?
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Joseph Wright, 25884-O881-A and B, and also 25 out 244-O59.
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Good morning, Mr. Wright. Your name muted.
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I can't hear him. Good morning, dude.
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It's Sterling, right? All right, officer, your name.
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Officer Porter, Yeah. I'm going to ask you to take
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your hat off if you would. Mr. Westmoreland, your name.
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Good morning, Your Honor. Attorney Bori Westmoreland,
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Fair. On behalf of Mr. Wright, we have
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a charge here of disorderly person public in tax and minor
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in possession from November 22nd.
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He was in front of me on December 11th.
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The case that he was in here on November 22, he didn't show up
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for on December 17th. And he also has an open end.
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Tox. Where's he been, Your honor?
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He's currently living down the road.
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And he didn't have. A Right I see.
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Where was he picked up at, Officer?
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Well, Flat Rock, that I'm not sure.
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I believe this address is in Flat Rock, right.
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You didn't graduate, did your son?
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No, I did not graduate from high school.
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I can't hear you. No, I did not graduate.
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You're not in high school anymore.
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No, I'm not in high school anymore.
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Are you working? Yes, where in Flat Rock I moved
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furniture. For who?
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For moving up. Which one?
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Wheel deal moving. Wheel deal moving.
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Wheel like WILL wheel wheel deal moving.
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Yeah, always at work. Five other companies as well,
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though. You know why I knew you didn't
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graduate. How'd you know that?
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Because when you act as irresponsible, there's no way
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you get through high school. No way.
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How many hours? Do you work per week?
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Maybe around 40. Maybe around 40?
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How much do you make per hour? $20.
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You make $800 a week, that's pretty good.
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Then how much you make a week? Somewhere around there.
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Why haven't he? Why isn't he showing up?
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Besides the fact that he didn't have a ride even though his
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parents live in Flat Rock and he works out of Flat Rock?
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That's just an excuse, isn't it, Mr. Wright?
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Absolutely not. Oh, it's not an excuse.
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Well, then we're going to make sure you got a ride to court.
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How's that? I'll make sure you have a ride
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to court and they can take you over from the Flat Rock Police
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Department when I get ready to handle this.
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OK. And then you're going to have to
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post a high bond. So, you know, don't don't tell
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your lawyer things that that are not true.
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OK. Yeah, I I think he acknowledges.
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And he was calling. He meant to say it was, it's not
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a good excuse, but he he understands after I spoke with
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him, he does understand the importance of them hearing and
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making sure employers all. So he's got a November 22 minor
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in possession. He must have a prior minor in
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possession, right? Yeah.
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That's what that says on the ticket.
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That's why they charged as a misdemeanor.
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So you have that case. Give me one second if you would,
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please. You bet.
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You've been in front of me before.
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I remember you. You know what?
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You have been right. Think so.
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In fact, you were in front of me at the Flat Rock Police
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Department, sitting there just as you are now, right?
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No, I don't think that was it. I think I had came in to come
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see you. You'd come to Flat Rock or you
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came to the court. No, no, I I came to the
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courtroom to see. I was in courtroom when I see
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you. You going to grow up or you
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going to act like this your whole life?
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No, I'm, I'm. I'm really ready to figure this
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out and make it to where I don't got these warrants and I don't
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have all these fines and we can just put it on one of the courts
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where I can just boom, boom, boom and knock everything down.
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And just instead of having warrants here and being, you
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know, I'm going to keep going through this process.
35:10
Yeah, it's not. Yeah, well, you, you're bringing
35:16
this on yourself. Well, I wasn't sure that I
35:20
wasn't sure about a warrant. Like I didn't know how that
35:22
worked really. I I wouldn't know him.
35:26
Do you stand mute away formal reading on the fare to pay which
35:29
is 25R514323 that's. Correct, John, it's a good on
35:37
me. You, you missed too many times,
35:40
your son John, you're going to have to go over there.
35:49
We're going to have to do a screening, as I ordered quite
35:51
some time ago. So here's what I'm doing.
35:56
Anything else, Mr. Wismoreland? Not, not at the standard.
36:03
Well, I'll give you an early court date.
36:06
I'll, I'll, I'll do that because I want to be a lot more fair
36:10
with you than you have been with us.
36:12
OK. Is that all right with you or?
36:17
Yes, I'm, yeah. Keep doing this.
36:23
I don't get it. You've missed cord I-45 times
36:26
here, 15110% on 25-F-244-O59. We're going to need a screening
36:33
and assessment and probation, John, to get on to do screening
36:40
on 25-F-244-O59. You have 210.
36:46
I'm entering a not guilty plea on 25R514323.
36:49
That'll be $100 cash. I will set that for January the
36:53
29th and that will be at 9:15. And then on Judge Hastings
37:00
cases, you have an open in tox and you have a minor in
37:03
possession, 1010% on that. No contact with prosecution
37:10
witnesses, no alcohol, no marijuana, no illegal drugs.
37:14
Do you understand all that? And that that's on both the open
37:17
in Tox and the MIP. Do you understand that?
37:21
Yes, John. So that'll be on January 29th at
37:25
9:45, the pretrial on that. So you got a contempt hearing in
37:30
front of me, a sentencing in front of me, and then you've got
37:34
pretrials in front of Judge Heston on the 29th.
37:38
And again, that will be at 9:45, OK.
37:44
You cannot leave the state. You cannot violate a law.
37:47
You must appear in court as directed.
37:50
You need to get the court on time, Sir.
37:52
OK. Don't be late.
37:54
Wouldn't you stand one another? Yes.
37:57
Thanks. Probation need to zoom and we're
37:59
going to give you yes, probation needs to zoom in with him
38:02
officer. So if you'll just bear with us
38:05
and we'll get you, tell him John, tell whoever down there I
38:09
want him to have a court appointed lawyer.
38:12
Trenton Federal. Great granny in the chat.
38:16
What's MIP that's minor in possession is what that is.
38:21
Barbara, thank you for the $10 super chat.
38:24
In it you say Lindsay, be proud. So congratulating Lindsay and
38:28
then you say I'll be clean 38 years in March.
38:30
Congratulations to you as well. And again, thank you for the
38:33
Super chat. Lindsay referenced will deal
38:37
moving in the chat saying they did not have great reviews.
38:40
I just looked it up. She's right, at least on Yelp,
38:42
only 2.5 stars, though they do fare a little better on Google
38:47
reviews. Any who, let's continue with
38:51
Judge McNally for a little bit. You do have the ability to do
38:54
this. It's based upon whether or not
38:56
there's any undue prejudice to the defendant and whether or not
38:59
it's there's, there's a purpose or reason behind this petition.
39:04
And and really there's no doubt this is this is administratively
39:09
my office failed in renewing this judgment.
39:13
I took a look at the history I've represented Shore to Shore
39:17
or Trenton Federal. Or does it say anything about
39:19
prejudice though? I'm not trying to give you a
39:21
hard time, but I just can't do this unless she made a payment.
39:25
Unless she made a payment in the last 10 years and you can
39:31
document, go ahead. Oh, go ahead.
39:36
Judge there, there's, there's nothing in the court rules that
39:38
says it, it, you can't do it. And, and I will tell you and,
39:43
and again, I represent a lot of credit unions.
39:46
We do a very good job of monitoring these files.
39:49
We lost a few of them during COVID and, and really going in
39:53
front of District Court judges, what you indicate is 1 they,
39:57
they haven't made any payments. 2 The fact that this doesn't put
40:00
any prejudice on them because they they're they're debtors in
40:04
the sense that they owe plaintiff money and and three is
40:08
the fact that. Because of the need to collect
40:10
this money, the credit union's asking for discretion from the
40:14
court. There's nothing the court rules
40:15
that says you can't do it. What it, what it indicates is
40:18
that in order to do this, you, in order to renew a, a judgment,
40:21
you have to go in front of a Circuit Court or District Court
40:24
judge. So, So what happened here?
40:27
And, and I'm going to tell you that it's, it's, it's unique.
40:30
And I again, I'm, I'm suggesting, I'm not suggesting,
40:33
I'm indicating it's, it's my fault, it's my office's fault.
40:36
Prior to the extinguishment of the judgment in 2017, we filed a
40:41
motion to renew in front of this court and we, we filed a motion
40:45
to renew. We paid the filing fee and we
40:47
prepared an order to renew in 2017, a month before this
40:51
judgment was up. At the time, my legal assistant,
40:56
my long time legal assistant had moved to Illinois.
40:58
She was working out of her Illinois office and when I saw
41:03
what was going on with this file, I had asked, sorry, I lost
41:08
you just now, hold on. I had asked my office that we
41:12
were going to pursue this judgment and she indicated that
41:15
we couldn't because our order to renew had never been entered by
41:18
the court back in June of 2017. You sent it in.
41:25
June 15th, 2017, there was a motion to renew, order to renew,
41:31
checking the amount of $2020.00 and it was for my legal
41:34
assistant. She had sent it from Illinois,
41:36
from she was basically working out of her house out of
41:38
Illinois. I thought this was renewed.
41:41
I thought it was a live judgment.
41:43
But sometimes what we do is with these, with these debtors, we
41:46
put them on hold because they might resurface.
41:49
And when I knew my 10 years was up, which is now that we're in
41:53
2026, I asked them to renew it again because now this defendant
41:57
had resurfaced and so my client wanted to pursue her.
42:00
The judgment's only $3000, Judge, Right.
42:03
So, so I was of the opinion that we had a live judgment and
42:09
pursuant to your court record, not yours specifically, but the
42:12
court record, it indicates that this order, this ex parte order
42:19
was never entered back in June of 2017.
42:23
So I'd come. Before you today and in January
42:26
of 2026 suggesting one she has not made any payments to the
42:31
judgments 3500 dollars Three, I was of the opinion and position
42:36
that we had a valid judgment and.
42:38
You're asking me to do something I just can't do.
42:42
How can I do this? I mean, I feel for you.
42:45
I'm sorry I can't just make my own rules.
42:48
There's nothing that I know of in any rule.
42:51
If you want to take a few minutes and pull it out and read
42:54
it to me and tell me the rule, I'll be happy to listen.
42:57
But the fact is that there's only one or two ways you can
43:02
have a judgment renewed, one within 10 years, and secondly,
43:06
if not within 10 years, within 10 years of the time that the
43:10
defendant last paid something. So if you want to spend a few
43:14
minutes and find the rule and read the rule and tell me the
43:18
rule, I'll be glad to, but I don't know how I can do this.
43:22
In the meantime, I'm going to ask you, Linda, to check this
43:27
file. We should this should have been
43:29
still a hard copy file and you checked this file and tell me
43:35
whether received anything back in 2017 and judge.
43:42
The the the the the letters dated June 15th, 2017 went to
43:48
the clerk of the court at at 33rd District Court.
43:51
I have it shows that you received it.
43:56
It was stamped received by the court June 21st, 2017 and you
44:02
cashed the check for $20. However, Judge and and again.
44:06
I'll, I'll, I'll. Do some research on on this.
44:09
I will tell you and again, you are correct that there's only
44:12
there's there's two ways that the court rule is prescribed.
44:15
However, the court does have discretion.
44:18
Where does it read that? Rule to me.
44:20
Read that rule to me. I don't think I do.
44:22
In the meantime, you listen. I want to do it, but I can't
44:30
unless we have the paperwork. If this was an oversight on our
44:34
part, that's different. If we somehow threw this in the
44:39
garbage or something or they didn't bring it to me, and I
44:43
don't mean to be facetious, I know this is serious and I want
44:45
to be able to do this. I'm going to have her check.
44:47
You pull out the rule. I'll go on to another case and
44:52
we'll go from there. OK.
44:53
LVMV versus no. No, judge, I'll, I'll, I'll,
44:57
I'll step off. I'll, I'll, I'll brief and I'll
44:59
get you something and and we can just set this.
45:02
Set it over for you. Just come back in an hour.
45:04
It shouldn't take long. They're going to check right
45:06
now. I will check for you.
45:09
If they've got it, I will. I will see it.
45:11
OK, You, you come back. When do you want to come back?
45:14
10:30 She's not here. There's no present.
45:17
So you can go ahead and do you go ahead and do that and come
45:21
back on at 10:30, LVMV versus Tory Parker.
45:25
All right, friends. Good morning once again, TCF
45:27
Live. Good to have you all here today.
45:31
Programming note we are not doing the TCF overtime the 4th
45:34
hour today. I have other matters that I have
45:36
to tend to between the show and tonight's sidebar and I need
45:40
that extra hour. So we'll just be a three hour
45:43
show today, but we'll come back tomorrow with the with the 4th
45:46
hour. But I want to show you guys
45:49
something. I'm not going to this court.
45:51
This is Judge Brown and it wasn't overly compelling what he
45:56
was doing there, but I don't know if you notice in the lower
45:59
left corner of his feed, the title of his YouTube live stream
46:04
was Jail people. Now, I don't know if that means
46:07
that he's dealing with people who are in jail or if that's
46:11
what his intent was going into his docket, but I just found it
46:15
funny, so I thought I would share.
46:17
Let's let's rotate back over to Judge Middleton.
46:23
I also have an appearance. That's fine.
46:31
I do. I have one that's photocopy and
46:45
then I'm going to be asking to adjourn the PEC.
46:48
Josh said it was OK with him. Do you want me to call my client
46:52
in? Or please, we'll shift gears
46:54
here in a minute. We're wrapping.
46:55
I'm sorry if I got. You.
46:56
Well, we're finishing our misdemeanors, then we'll shift
46:59
gears to the felonies. Thank you, Mr. Stickley.
47:03
This might be a time to see if you can find Miss Stole
47:08
regarding these cases. It's like for now we just have
47:13
the. 2. We have Miller, Huey.
47:17
We need Tim George. Yeah.
47:19
And Graham? Yeah, we'll need yourself.
47:25
So do you need these files? Yeah.
47:35
Ordinance. Ordinance.
47:39
She's in the back. Who?
47:41
Is stolen back? I don't know.
47:48
All right, Anyway, Elizabeth Conway is not here.
47:51
She's charged with disorderly person.
47:53
The address list, that is a 7th street address that she does not
47:57
live at. She's been evicted from there.
48:08
There's no sense doing a show cause this was at the hospital
48:13
and I think she'd been previously trespassed from
48:15
there. Bench warrant $250 cash for
48:27
surety 48 hour hold. She.
48:35
Has a number of unpaid fines that frankly you probably should
48:38
have wiped out with some previous jail sentences.
48:40
She is struggling with some significant mental health issues
48:44
and I'm not at all surprised that she's not here.
48:50
If anybody knows her sees her, tell her to get in here.
48:53
She's got 48 hours of an issue of benchmark for her arrest.
49:10
Abigail Cowgill, Not Cowgirl Cowgill.
49:15
Noah Lake Rd. Driving suspended.
49:19
No phone number. Oh yes, she has an improper
49:29
plate. They're fine with no.
49:31
Food all right here, all right. All right, then we have Lindsay
49:47
Miller. There's currently a warrant for
49:49
her arrest. Lindsay Marie Miller don't need
49:56
2 warrants. Do you have anybody in the back?
50:04
Patricia Weaver. All right.
50:14
Lindsay Marie Miller has failed to appear for arraignment.
50:38
It's already worn out more it remains out.
50:54
I do have a couple phone numbers but I don't have time to tie it
50:59
up this morning. Miss Harden, when are you here
51:12
next? Next week.
51:36
Good morning, Sergeant Herman. This is Judge Middleton.
51:38
Could I see Eric Rainey, please? All right, thanks.
51:44
Bye. Bye.
51:48
All right, Well, let's talk about our civil infraction
51:51
cases. Miss Graham, would you come
51:56
forward, please? Mr. Graham, who did you talk to,
52:04
Keith? All.
52:06
Right. Mr. Graham will return to your
52:12
case, which is file 252731. As I told you earlier, you got
52:17
charged with no insurance, which is a fairly significant charge.
52:22
The prosecutor agreed to dismiss it.
52:25
I don't have the authority to do that.
52:27
The prosecutor does. But when people like you come in
52:30
and show that they do have their insurance, prosecutor is willing
52:35
to reduce this to what's called a civil infraction of no proof
52:39
of insurance. You don't plead guilty or not
52:46
guilty to a civil infraction. You simply admit or acknowledge
52:50
that you did not have significant or you didn't have
52:54
proof of insurance in your car at the time of that traffic stop
52:58
on December 26th. That accurate?
53:01
Yes. I don't know cure auto
53:03
insurance. But I'm sure they're.
53:05
Legit fine and cost is $150.00 per fee schedule.
53:17
Can you pay that today or any time to pay it?
53:20
I get paid on Thursday. Well, I don't.
53:22
Want to take your whole check? But generally I'll give you 30
53:25
days to pay it. Can you pay that with 30 days
53:27
from today? I'll give you an envelope 30
53:32
days. Today is February, we'll go to
53:36
the end of the month. Nopes. 27 is a Friday.
53:44
You can pay with a credit card, you can send in a certified
53:50
check or money order, or you can just come in and pay green cash.
54:00
But we appreciate the fact that you are now insured.
54:05
You can pay that civil infraction fine.
54:08
This matter is done. All right, friends, let's change
54:14
it up a little bit. We have not been here in a hot
54:17
minute, as the kids say. Let's go down to Miami, FL, say
54:22
good morning to grumpy Pants judge Mindy Glazer.
54:25
The Evidence $1000. All right.
54:28
Thank. You, you have a good morning.
54:30
This everybody tells you. Thanks.
54:32
Your Honor, you said 1000. Yeah, I did 55000 and 1000.
54:38
OK. Good luck to you, Sir.
54:40
Next we have Santiago Chavez on page 6.
54:47
We have a private lawyer here. Good morning.
54:50
Your honor, for Mr. Chavez, Jeff Palmieri, PALMERI, good morning
54:53
to the state. Morning.
54:55
Spanish, please. Good morning, Sir.
55:00
Mr. Chavez, you were arrested for armed robbery with a firearm
55:06
or deadly weapon and aggravated assault with a firearm.
55:10
This is a case from January 7th of 2026.
55:13
He has a hold for immigration. He needs a Spanish interpreter,
55:19
please. I.
55:22
Apologize, did I hear that there is an immigration hold?
55:25
Yes. OK.
55:26
Thank you. Jackie, we can't.
55:28
Hear you. I cannot interpret it,
55:54
so I can't hear you. And you said, Jackie, you can
55:56
neither. Log on and off again or get
55:59
another interpreter because I can't hear you.
56:02
Can you hear her, Miss? Miss.
56:06
No, Judge, I cannot hear her or. Just no.
56:09
And I can't hear there's no either.
56:10
OK, Miss Corykin. OK, I got to pass the case to
56:15
have an interpreter that I can hear.
56:18
So Jackie, either log on, log on, or get somebody else.
56:22
Next we have I got to give me a minute, Mr. Calamari, Alexander
56:26
Vio. So I'll, I'll try.
56:27
To. Get another you want to call one
56:30
of the. Device.
56:32
Will interpret, Judge. I can hear her, but very low.
56:38
I can't hear anything. Good morning, Mr. Biel.
56:41
You speak? Do you speak English?
56:42
Yes. So you were arrested for
56:44
burglary to an occupied dwelling.
56:46
I will appear up. So your attorneys here.
56:48
Let me promote him now. Your Honor.
56:50
What page is he printing on? Page 9.
56:53
Thank you. It's from yesterday, January
56:56
20th. Good morning, Judge, this is
57:22
Attorney Davis of the interview. Can you be accepted promotion as
57:29
a panelist and put on your video?
57:31
Oh, yes, ma'am. I'm sorry about that.
57:34
Good morning. There is no camera one second,
57:37
Judge, I don't know what's going on today.
57:39
I don't know what happened to my camera.
57:43
I'm going to log in from my phone.
57:44
Judge, I don't know what happened.
57:45
See a camera show on the ceiling.
57:47
I think I know floor. OK, here we go.
57:49
Good morning, Josh. How are you?
57:53
What is your first name? You got a thing?
57:55
Yes. First name is spelled D as in
57:58
dog AM as in mom. EKA.
58:04
Last name is Davis. Good morning, everyone.
58:07
Good morning. Davis So Mr. Bio was arrested
58:11
for a case from Is it the 28th? No, it's from 2023, January
58:17
28th, 2023. The charge is burglary to an
58:21
occupied dwelling. So I'm reviewing the arrest
58:25
affidavit. Looks like there's probable
58:27
cause for burglary with an assault or battery and the
58:31
defense has no probable cause argument.
58:33
Judge just I mean, I'm going to find probable clinic for
58:36
burglary to the Occupy dwelling. All right.
58:41
It's from 2023. Your order to stay away from the
58:43
alleged victim Jacqueline Jolie Core.
58:47
No, no contact with the alleged victim either directly,
58:50
indirectly, in person, in writing, by telephone, through
58:54
third parties. No contact with the victim
58:57
through social media or other electronic means.
59:00
You must stay at least 500 feet away from the victim, her home
59:04
and school place of appointment at all times.
59:07
Do not engage in any criminal activity, do not use or possess
59:12
illegal drugs, and do not purchase possessor theory, a
59:16
firearm, gun, weapon or ammunition.
59:19
You must immediately surrender any of those items at the 1st
59:22
Police Department. File a receipt report.
59:25
Do you understand the Stay away order?
59:27
Yes. OK And Judge, I just wanted to
59:30
add one thing. He has a family law case with
59:33
the alleged victim in this case. I know we typically argue these
59:36
motions. Do they have children?
59:38
Yes, your honor, they have a 2 year old son.
59:40
He wants third contacts for exchanging a child or changing
59:44
for time sharing. That's fine, Judge.
59:46
He has a pending family law case in Broward that permits time
59:49
sharing. He's the primary parent.
59:51
I was just going to make a simple request if the court
59:55
would consider perhaps the stay away order we don't have an
59:59
issue with but I'm just referring to the family law time
1:00:03
sharing order that's in place right now.
1:00:05
Yeah, I'm missing 3rd all I'm saying third party contact is
1:00:08
permitted for exchanging child one or she's born.
1:00:11
Let's victim is here. Oh the victim is here.
1:00:14
OK. Hello, where is she?
1:00:31
I guess my morning is going slower.
1:00:33
Hello ma'am. Raise your right hand please.
1:00:36
Your other names, please your right hand.
1:00:37
Do you swear or affirm the testimony you are going to give
1:00:40
at this proceeding will be the truth?
1:00:42
If so state I do. I do.
1:00:45
OK, what is your name? Jacqueline Joliker.
1:00:49
Are are you afraid of Mr. Alexander?
1:00:52
Say it again. Are you afraid of Mr. Alexander?
1:00:56
Yes. OK you want a safe order?
1:00:59
I do but we also do have a a two year old son and I'm supposed to
1:01:04
be permitted 2 phone calls a day.
1:01:07
So I agree to the no contact order as long as I'm still
1:01:11
allowed to have FaceTime timeshare.
1:01:14
What I'm going to say is third, he can't answer the phone.
1:01:16
Third party contact is permitted for exchanging the child for
1:01:19
time sharing and and she can defer a court defers to any
1:01:24
family court order and judge. I believe the alleged victim
1:01:28
resides out of state in the state of Massachusetts.
1:01:31
So she there won't be any exchange of the child because
1:01:36
the child all right, so. I am permitted.
1:01:40
Time sharing so I can see myself.
1:01:42
Well. What do you want me to put here
1:01:45
for the time he he can provide, it won't be a violation of the
1:01:49
court order for him to allow telephone contact with the
1:01:54
child. Yes.
1:01:55
Is that what you want? Yes, please.
1:02:28
So, Sir, you cannot speak with her regarding the child.
1:02:31
Do not discuss anything other than answering the phone again,
1:02:34
the phone with the child, you understand, OK.
1:02:37
The child is. Two years old so and I'm not
1:02:39
sure if somebody else should maybe facilitate the phone
1:02:43
calls. This is not family court.
1:02:46
Go to family court if you have any.
1:02:47
Issues. This is Criminal Court.
1:02:49
It's an incident from two years ago, so I'm just dealing with
1:02:53
this criminal matter. I'm not the family court judge.
1:02:55
I'm allowing him to facilitate timeshare telephone time sharing
1:03:01
with you 'cause you asked. Is that correct?
1:03:04
Is that what you want? Yes.
1:03:05
It's just if he hands the phone to the toddler, I'm not sure
1:03:08
I'll, I'll get my phone call in totality.
1:03:11
So I'm just maybe he can prop up the phone or something and make
1:03:14
sure that I get that time with him.
1:03:16
Can you make sure she gets the time sharing?
1:03:18
We can do that, Judge. That's not an issue you have.
1:03:21
He has a good lawyer, maybe addressing the issue to the
1:03:23
attorney if it's not getting done.
1:03:25
OK, anyway, do not engage in any criminal activity.
1:03:30
Do not use repossessed illegal drugs.
1:03:32
Do not use, purchase, possess or carry firearm, gun, weapon or
1:03:36
ammunition. You must immediately surrender
1:03:39
those items to the nearest Police Department.
1:03:41
File that receipt with the court.
1:03:43
And what do you want in terms of a bond?
1:03:47
That happened two years ago. It looks like these two have
1:03:49
other issues. You want to make.
1:03:52
Sure. That's good for Miss Davis.
1:03:53
Your Honor, we're asking for a nominal bond amount.
1:03:58
I think the I said a shot of the $2000 trial or you want a
1:04:03
refund. I guess I.
1:04:06
Assured you, judge. All right, $2000 bond, I can
1:04:09
give a free trial service because he gets out of jail for
1:04:11
free. You want that for free option
1:04:13
free trial services, Judge the option free trial altering the
1:04:16
file, $2000. Ma'am.
1:04:18
Miss Jolie, Chris, thank you for coming in.
1:04:20
If there's any issues, reach out to Miss Steve.
1:04:22
And if you're not getting your phone calls or your attorney for
1:04:25
your family law case or write a letter to the judge in your
1:04:27
family law case, but he's allowed to only facilitate your
1:04:31
child contact with you. OK.
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Thank you. Thank you, everyone.
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Have a good day, Judge. Good day.
1:04:37
Thank. You so great granny in the chat
1:04:40
is asking about the acoustics and the sound in this courtroom.
1:04:43
So they actually spent a couple of months late last year doing
1:04:48
technical upgrades in this courtroom.
1:04:51
And the solution, the final outcome was the audio got worse.
1:04:55
But we watch Judge Glaser because her anger level is
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proportionate to the closer she is to lunchtime.
1:05:05
So as the morning, as the morning ramps up, you'll see her
1:05:10
get more and more angry and she has interesting outbursts and
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stuff like that. But time to change it up.
1:05:17
Let's move slightly N we'll go to Georgia, Fulton County's
1:05:23
all-purpose calendar. This is Judge Morrow.
1:05:25
A factual basis and venue would just ask the court to follow the
1:05:29
state's recommendation as a negotiated plea judge.
1:05:32
And she did spend 17 days so. So this turns out to be a time
1:05:37
served sentence. OK.
1:05:41
Miss Nelson, it's my understanding that in case
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25CR004044J you wish to plead guilty to battery family
1:05:50
violence and in case 26CR000258-J, you wish to plead
1:05:56
guilty to simple battery family violence.
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Is that correct? You have to speak up for me.
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Yes, you're on the correct. Are you under the influence of
1:06:09
any drugs or alcohol this morning?
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No. You're honor.
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You've been represented by counsel.
1:06:15
Are you satisfied with his representation?
1:06:21
You understand that you have a right to a trial by jury on
1:06:24
these charges and that by pleading guilty to them, you're
1:06:26
giving up that right? Say it one more time for me.
1:06:33
Yes, John. Has anyone forced you or coerced
1:06:36
you to plead guilty? No, Your Honor.
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I'll accept the plea I've negotiated.
1:06:42
Miss Nelson. When you complete the terms of
1:06:44
the probation, I'll have it go to a non reporting status.
1:06:47
Good luck to you, ma'am. Thank you.
1:06:51
You too, ma'am 50. 3 Miss Stanford.
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Also a negotiated plea. Yes, Judge, it is.
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Good morning, Miss Stanford. I'm Judge Eric Marr.
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This is the state all-purpose calendar.
1:07:12
Will you raise your right hand for me, please?
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Do you swear or affirm The testimony you're about to give
1:07:18
before this court will be the truth, the whole truth and
1:07:20
nothing but the truth. Thank you.
1:07:23
You can place your hand down. Miss Evans Battle.
1:07:27
Yes, your Honor, as to count 1 is 12 months probation, complete
1:07:32
the Operation 21 law and decision making class, complete
1:07:37
30 hours of community service. Stay away from the location of
1:07:42
Washington Park which is at One O 2 Ollie St. in Atlanta.
1:07:48
As to count 212 months probation, pay a fine in the
1:07:52
amount of $300, stipulate to identity, venue and a factual
1:07:56
basis for the plea. Thank you, Your honor.
1:08:00
Yes, Mr. Odad. Judge, we stipulate ask the
1:08:04
court to consider terminating probation upon completion of the
1:08:11
requirements. I did want to mention she's not
1:08:13
going to be released right away, Judge.
1:08:15
She has a felony case that she's going to a prelim I think next
1:08:20
week. Judge OK.
1:08:24
Miss Stanford, it's my understanding that in case 26 CR
1:08:28
000103 Y you wish to plead guilty to lording and prowling
1:08:33
and willful obstruction of law enforcement officers.
1:08:35
Is that correct? Yes.
1:08:38
Are you under the influence of any drugs or alcohol at the
1:08:40
present time? No.
1:08:44
Been represented by Council? Are you satisfied with his
1:08:47
representation? Yes.
1:08:51
You understand that you have a right to a trial by jury on
1:08:54
these charges and that by pleading guilty to them, you're
1:08:56
giving up that right. Yes.
1:09:00
Has anyone forced or coerced you to plead guilty?
1:09:06
I'll accept the plea as negotiated.
1:09:07
Miss Stanford, When you complete the terms of the probation, I'll
1:09:10
have it terminate. So the sooner you get it done,
1:09:12
the sooner you won't be on probation.
1:09:14
Good luck to you, ma'am. Thank you.
1:09:17
Yes, ma'am. For passing the times in court
1:09:22
for two. OK.
1:09:25
We can go with positions one through 6, Mr. Benton.
1:09:32
Good morning, Miss Rainford. This is going to be a negotiated
1:09:35
plea. Yes, Judge.
1:09:38
Good morning, Mr. Benton. I'm Judge Eric Morrow.
1:09:40
This is the state all-purpose calendar.
1:09:42
Will you raise your right hand for me, please?
1:09:43
Sir, Do you swear or affirm The testimony you're about to give
1:09:47
before this court will be the truth, the whole truth and
1:09:49
nothing but the truth. Thank.
1:09:52
Thank you. Mr. Benford.
1:09:53
You can place your hand down, Sir.
1:09:56
Miss Evans Battle. Yes.
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As to of case ending in 300C, count 1 of 12 months serve 128
1:10:08
days and we would commute to time serve.
1:10:12
As to count 212 months, 120 serve, 120 days commute to time
1:10:19
serve, count 3 would merge into count. 1.
1:10:24
In that particular case, stipulate to identity, venue and
1:10:28
a factual basis for the plea as to count 3O2, what would be 12.
1:10:34
I'm sorry about a case three O 212 months a serve 120 days
1:10:40
commute to time serve as well in that particular case.
1:10:46
As to the third case ending in 2O9G count, it would be battery
1:10:56
12 months serve 120 days credit for time serve balance probated.
1:11:02
Complete the family violence intervention program.
1:11:05
No further contact with star Keisha Laster.
1:11:09
Complete 40 hours of community service and we would ask that
1:11:15
the probation reporting continue throughout the term of that
1:11:20
probationary period. I'm not sure that we get case
1:11:26
21CR0052O6G placed on the calendar.
1:11:34
What? That's willful obstruction of
1:11:36
law enforcement officers. Yes.
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OK. I have it on my calendar.
1:11:41
Have you been able to discuss that with him, Miss Rainford?
1:11:43
No. You're on.
1:11:45
I did not discuss that with him, but I can briefly.
1:11:48
OK, if you'll go ahead and do that so that if these are all
1:11:50
the charges that he have, we can take care of them all.
1:11:54
And you're only asking, you're asking for a $300 fine on that?
1:11:58
Yes. OK.
1:12:02
All right, so go ahead and mute yourself there, Miss Rainford,
1:12:05
and let me know when you're ready to proceed.
1:12:26
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it. Let's change it up.
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Let's go to Michigan Judge mom Elizabeth Desanto.
1:13:30
All right, so let's go on the record in the matter of the
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Andrella Hagger 22991 and Council, your appearance,
1:13:42
please. Good morning, Your honor.
1:13:44
Chris Percentke on behalf of Miss Hagger.
1:13:46
This this I'm in the wrong thing?
1:13:50
No, Sir, you're right where you're supposed to be.
1:13:52
It's just going to be a little bit before your hearing.
1:13:55
OK. And so ma'am, your name for the
1:13:57
record, please. OK, thank you.
1:14:00
Today is the date scheduled for probation violation.
1:14:02
Miss Hanger is on probation for attempt retail fraud and it's
1:14:06
alleged that she failed to appear for probation visits on
1:14:09
November 9th of 2022 and November 29th of 2022.
1:14:14
And Council. Yes, John, I had a review of the
1:14:18
documentation that was sent to me indicates that, yes, you
1:14:21
missed these two dates. I gave her the notion of what
1:14:24
she was able to do regarding the hearing to contest whether or
1:14:26
not she was there on those date and time that will not be
1:14:28
necessary. She'll admit that she failed to
1:14:31
appear at those probation visits, Your Honor.
1:14:36
OK. And so, ma'am, please raise your
1:14:38
right hand. Do you solemnly swear or firm
1:14:40
testimony you're about to give him this man to be the truth,
1:14:41
the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
1:14:43
OK. Can you speak up a little bit
1:14:45
more loudly, please? Perfect.
1:14:47
Thank you. I'm recording on my device here
1:14:49
so that that's OK. And so ma'am, you did hear you
1:14:52
can you may lower your hand. You did hear the allegations
1:14:57
that were saved on the record, correct?
1:15:00
As to the allegations, ma'am, how do you plead?
1:15:06
And you've gone over your advice of rights for probation
1:15:08
violation purposes, correct? And you understand all of those
1:15:12
rights? Yes, he was, he was saying like
1:15:15
pay the balance over $1000 and then continue the preservation.
1:15:20
That's right. Well, no, first I want you to
1:15:22
understand that you your various rights you have for probation
1:15:26
violation hearing and that by entering into a plea that you're
1:15:29
going to be waiving some of those rights and you've gone
1:15:32
over those rights with your attorney, OK.
1:15:34
You also understand the possible penalty as a result of your
1:15:37
plea, whether in this court, any other court or administrative
1:15:40
agency. And you understand the
1:15:45
recommendation this matter is for probation to be revoked
1:15:49
under advisement status to be revoked probation violation fee.
1:15:52
And it says 15 days jail. Do you understand that?
1:15:55
And as well as paying the balance in full and knowing all
1:15:59
that, do you want to continue with your plea?
1:16:03
Has anybody promised you anything, threatened you or
1:16:05
coerced you in any way for you to enter into a plea?
1:16:08
Any immigration issues? No, Your Honor.
1:16:10
All right, counselor, if you can, please boardview your
1:16:12
client. Yes.
1:16:13
I'd like to direct your attention the dates of November
1:16:16
9th, 2022 and the dates of November 29th to 22.
1:16:21
Do you stipulate that you did not appear to probation visits
1:16:25
as previously ordered by the court?
1:16:26
All right. Can you speak up please?
1:16:31
OK. Satisfied the.
1:16:37
Court is also satisfied the plea is knowing, voluntary and
1:16:40
factually accurate, and the court will accept your plea to
1:16:47
the probation violation, indicate technical violations 1
1:16:49
and 2 will enter based upon your plea and counsel.
1:16:53
As to the recommendation. Your Honor, my client indicated
1:16:58
that she was unaware for whatever reason that this was
1:17:00
still an outstanding issue. But she is now gainfully
1:17:03
employed. She works at UPS, She's a
1:17:04
package handler. She lives in Detroit with her
1:17:06
mother. She's not on probation or
1:17:08
parole. She's 27 years old.
1:17:10
I know it's a little bit older of a case, but I'd ask if she'd
1:17:13
be given an opportunity for a review, see if she can get this
1:17:16
balance outstanding and potentially find herselves in a,
1:17:18
in a more advantageous position. Obviously with the balance.
1:17:21
I, I think that, you know, sending her to jail at this time
1:17:23
would potentially lengthen the amount of time that you could
1:17:27
get this balance zeroed out. So I'd ask for a delay of any
1:17:30
aggressive admonishment at this time.
1:17:32
Your honor. So, ma'am, why didn't you appear
1:17:36
over the last three years? At the time they they told me
1:17:40
that they had a miscommunication with the the case that they put
1:17:45
retail fraud. It was, it was attempt to retail
1:17:48
fraud and they never made a adjustment on the case.
1:17:53
I don't know what that was about, but it was attempt retail
1:17:55
fraud, not retail fraud. No, I right.
1:17:58
So, but I don't understand how that affects you appearing for
1:18:02
your probation appointment. I'm saying, like, why would I go
1:18:04
to probation if there's like Obama confirmation for something
1:18:08
that's not accurate on money because you're ordered to
1:18:11
participate in probation. I'm saying, but it was it's not
1:18:14
accurate. OK, So what did you do to try to
1:18:19
correct it or bring a protection officer and ask him to switch it
1:18:23
and fix the thing that was on the, you know, the paperwork
1:18:26
even to fix this. And how do you know that was
1:18:30
never fixed, ma'am on the case online?
1:18:36
And I understand. I just need self.
1:18:41
OK. And so ma'am.
1:18:43
So then you thought it was a the best practice to just ignore it?
1:18:46
Not ignore it. Like I said, I fought numerous
1:18:48
times to have a better call back.
1:18:51
Did you come up here? Yeah, I didn't come up here.
1:18:54
I just gave the call back. Right.
1:18:55
So if, if it was that important to you, ma'am, why didn't you
1:18:58
come up to the court? This is my first time coming to
1:19:03
the court. I never knew I had.
1:19:04
And I'm not sure what you're looking at because I'm showing
1:19:06
attempt. I'm showing right on your
1:19:08
criminal history. I'm showing attempt when they
1:19:10
didn't fade in the on online. So the line said retail fraud
1:19:14
and never said attempt when they they sent me.
1:19:16
The the link. When I just talked to a
1:19:19
background check and never said attempt to retail fraud, I said
1:19:21
retail fraud. So well, I'm looking right.
1:19:25
The only reason I'm looking because I had to do the job to
1:19:27
make the background check. Like it popped up for me to do
1:19:29
it back like a background check and it said it reads up for not
1:19:32
a ten week. Well, that's interesting because
1:19:34
it's also suppressed because of the height of status.
1:19:36
So I have no idea what it is you're looking at or not looking
1:19:39
at. But in any event, you took 2 and
1:19:41
3 1/2 years to or three years to take care of this inefferated
1:19:47
like when they were nothing didn't get stolen.
1:19:50
And so I'm just trying to see how it can proceed and you're
1:19:53
properly in it. I know he, the attorney said pay
1:19:58
this fine in the probation. Well, the the recommendation is
1:20:04
for probation to be revoked and, and under advisement to be
1:20:07
revoked because you didn't do anything that you were ordered
1:20:10
to do, ma'am. He said just pay the the fine
1:20:13
and then, you know, probation. That's not how that works.
1:20:18
Just pay the fine and then probation.
1:20:19
The court the recommendation is to revoke probation.
1:20:24
You didn't do you didn't participate in your economic
1:20:27
crime program. You didn't participate in your
1:20:30
random testing. You didn't participate in
1:20:32
workforce. One of the conditions was random
1:20:37
testing, ma'am. And you didn't did you resolve
1:20:40
your outstanding, excuse me, did you resolve your outstanding
1:20:43
words? I'm working on that as well.
1:20:46
OK, Go through the list of words I had to say.
1:20:48
I think so in July of 15th of 20 in July of 22 is when this court
1:20:55
sentenced you to those conditions and you didn't do any
1:21:00
of those. I'm sorry.
1:21:01
It was August 15th of 2022. A like tickets off you talking
1:21:08
about like civil warrants by driving ma'am, all of the
1:21:13
warrants you had sent warrants for your arrest and paying all
1:21:17
of my receipts off if you go to my civil war of surgery.
1:21:21
I've been paying for numerous toy off over $3000.
1:21:25
OK and that's good ma'am, but this court ordered you to
1:21:32
participate in probation and you didn't do anything.
1:21:35
You didn't appear probation appointments, you didn't do
1:21:39
anything. So council, why should this
1:21:44
court not revoke the under advisement status and not revoke
1:21:47
probation and allow your client to continue when she didn't do
1:21:50
anything in the last three years?
1:21:53
You know, and I'd only ask you to consider that she does have
1:21:55
a, a strong caliber job. And I think that, you know,
1:21:58
there was a little ambiguity there.
1:21:59
I, I, I wish that obviously we could go back in time to get
1:22:02
this solidified in a different manner, but she's still in a
1:22:04
position where she can clear her balance with the court, I
1:22:06
believe, in a relatively efficient manner.
1:22:09
And I'm concerned that if it were just to be revoked
1:22:12
immediately or put into jail, progress that she's made would
1:22:15
be halted. So I'd ask that she'd be just
1:22:17
given a review date on this particular matter to see what
1:22:19
sort of progress she makes, because obviously the
1:22:21
admonishment of jail or probation being revoked can be
1:22:24
implemented in any time. I'd ask if she'd be given one
1:22:27
final opportunity to demonstrate full compliance with this
1:22:29
honorable court. Thank you, Judge.
1:22:36
Can I speak? What's that, ma'am?
1:22:41
I say, can I speak? What's that?
1:22:43
Like I said, like I said, I have been paying over numerous, a lot
1:22:46
of seats that like a lot of my and numerous of my money has
1:22:49
gone through. Like I said, my my license has
1:22:53
been suspended for five, maybe over five years.
1:22:58
I'm like a lot of money towards that.
1:23:00
So you can pull it up into the system.
1:23:03
It's been Southfield, ONIA. Like I said, I might have
1:23:07
ignored this situation, which I did, you know, once I tested the
1:23:11
multiple payments, but it's only so much I can do with just
1:23:14
working at UPS. I understand as far as the
1:23:17
payments, right, you have limited income.
1:23:20
However, you didn't do anything with probation with this court
1:23:25
because you had some information that it was the, IT was the
1:23:28
incorrect plead or charge that was on your record.
1:23:33
So instead of coming up and meeting, had you met with your
1:23:36
probation officer on those two dates, you could have addressed
1:23:38
that. I told you that.
1:23:41
But. It was due.
1:23:43
It was like in it either way. Either way, you didn't show up
1:23:46
November 9th at 22. You didn't show up November 29th
1:23:49
at 22. Here's what I'm going to do,
1:23:51
Ma'am, You're getting one chance.
1:23:53
That is it. The court's going to order your
1:23:57
probation to be reinstated or continue probation.
1:24:32
12 months complete, all terms previously ordered. 15 days jail
1:24:50
suspended. We'll continue your under
1:24:56
advisement status which will be revoked if any violation.
1:25:13
The 15 you said it's on the 15 days.
1:25:17
I suspended it. Ma'am, if there's a violation,
1:25:19
you'll be doing those 15 days. OK.
1:26:13
Stop at probation. Somebody will be with you
1:26:15
shortly and we'll go over all of your terms and conditions that
1:26:18
were previously ordered. We're going to be required to do
1:26:20
all those. Have a good day.
1:26:26
Thank you, Judge. So I was curious about this
1:26:31
because the jail for her was suspended.
1:26:36
So I was curious if there's like an overcrowding situation or
1:26:39
something like that, 'cause we've seen that before where the
1:26:41
judges are encouraged to not put people in jail if they can avoid
1:26:45
it. But current Wayne County stats,
1:26:50
this is as of today, because they're their department has a a
1:26:56
dashboard. Their inmate population is at
1:26:59
1339, which is a lot of people in jail to be sure.
1:27:04
But the jail holds about 2600. So it's not a population
1:27:09
problem. They're only at about half
1:27:11
capacity. So but they could have a
1:27:14
staffing situation or something like that where they don't have
1:27:17
the officers to care for the people.
1:27:19
I just, I'm curious if there's something something going on
1:27:23
there where they're encouraged not to jail people unless they
1:27:26
absolutely have to. It's just, it's a question.
1:27:29
Anywho, let's change it up. Texas Judge West.
1:27:33
Yes, you are. You have all his own work space.
1:27:48
Jail reports. Jennifer.
1:28:29
All right. Are you Ellen St.
1:28:30
Clair And Mr. W? Will your client waive the
1:28:33
formal reading of the indictment in each case?
1:28:36
Yeah, sure. Mr. Saint Clair, in clause
1:28:41
number 23, DCCR 2044, you're charged with the first degree
1:28:46
felony offense of aggravated robbery and that's from August
1:28:50
15th of 2023. And how do you pleaded that
1:28:53
charge? Are you pleading guilty freely
1:28:57
and voluntarily? Yes, ma'am.
1:28:59
And are you pleading guilty because you actually did what
1:29:01
they charged you with? And then it cause #23 DCCR 2117,
1:29:09
you're also charged with the first degree felony offense of
1:29:12
aggravated robbery from August 15th of 2023.
1:29:16
And how do you pleaded that charge?
1:29:19
Are you pleading guilty freely and voluntarily?
1:29:22
And because you did what they charged you with in both of
1:29:25
those cases, I have here on the tablet some documents that have
1:29:28
your signature on them that the states marked as exhibit #1
1:29:32
before you signed these, did you go over them with Mr. West, the
1:29:37
ones on the tablet? And did you and do you
1:29:40
understand what you signed those documents, OK.
1:29:45
And do you understand if I follow the agreement that you
1:29:47
made with the District Attorney that you're waving or giving up
1:29:51
any right to appeal? So you can't change your mind if
1:29:53
I follow these agreements later and say I don't want to take
1:29:56
these deals. Do you understand?
1:30:02
If so, if I follow this agreement and I give you the 10
1:30:06
year deferred probations and all of that, you can't later say I
1:30:09
want to change my mind, OK. And it looks like the agreements
1:30:13
that you've reached with the District attorney's office is a
1:30:17
10 year deferred probation. In each of those cases, there
1:30:21
would be a $1000 fine. In each case, there would be
1:30:24
dismissals as part of this and cause numbers 23 DCCR 139-O and
1:30:30
23 DCCR 2043. There would be no contact with
1:30:36
the victim. Any additional conditions
1:30:40
included after we get a pre sentence report which could
1:30:43
definitely include some type of treatment, ISF or something like
1:30:47
that. Do you understand?
1:30:51
Do you understand if you're not AUS citizen, that a plea of
1:30:53
guilty or no contest may result in your deportation, exclusion
1:30:57
from admission to the country, or denial of naturalization
1:31:01
under federal law. State tenders #1 in each case.
1:31:04
Objection. It's admitted in each case.
1:31:06
Is there any evidence that Mister Saint Clair is not
1:31:08
competent? All right, I'm.
1:31:11
Sorry sure if. I may just.
1:31:12
So Mr. Saint Clair understands, typically we don't write that in
1:31:16
a plea paper. What my intention?
1:31:18
Was and what Mr. West and I had discussed based on his very
1:31:21
young age, was to be able to include everything that we could
1:31:25
to help him at this stage of the game before he gets himself into
1:31:28
or trouble. So that was our intention and
1:31:31
including that. Those things are.
1:31:32
Meant to help. You.
1:31:38
Thank you. Miss Multino.
1:31:40
So states one is admitted in each case and there's no
1:31:44
evidence that he's not competent, correct.
1:31:47
So Mr. Saint Clair, I'm going to find in each of your cases that
1:31:50
you entered your pleas that guilty freely and voluntarily.
1:31:53
Find that you're mentally competent and you understand the
1:31:55
nature and the consequences of your pleas.
1:31:58
Find sufficient evidence to find you guilty in each case.
1:32:00
But I'm going to reset your cases for sentencing so that the
1:32:03
probation department can do that pre sentence report.
1:32:06
That'll give me more information about you and your cases and
1:32:08
then we'll come back later for sentencing.
1:32:12
You cannot get APSI bond. I have 34 pages now of jail
1:32:19
incident reports. When you come back for
1:32:23
sentencing, if I go along with this agreement, it will require,
1:32:27
I'm telling everybody right now you will go to ISF.
1:32:30
OK. And that's meant to give you
1:32:32
tools to be more successful. But I don't know.
1:32:36
You've been in there long enough.
1:32:37
I think you've probably seen two that were given ISF and a
1:32:42
condition of their bond. I mean, a condition of their
1:32:45
probation was not to get any jail incident reports.
1:32:49
And they never made it to ISF and I revoked their probations.
1:32:52
And I'm telling you now, I will do that.
1:32:56
If you continue to act like an absolute heathen at our jail and
1:33:01
treat everybody, including the correctional officers, other
1:33:05
inmates like you have been, you're never going to see the
1:33:09
light of day again for a long, long time.
1:33:11
These are aggravated robberies. They're first degree felonies.
1:33:15
If you violate your probation, I can give you the rest of your
1:33:18
life in prison, minimum five years in prison up to 99 years
1:33:23
or the rest of your life. And I don't know if you can
1:33:26
tell, but I hope you can, how serious I am that this isn't
1:33:30
going to be some little five year, oh, he was just acting up
1:33:33
in the jail kind of thing. And he's young.
1:33:35
If you can't follow the rules, then you're not going to get
1:33:38
these deals and you're going to end up in prison for a very,
1:33:41
very long time. So it's time to straighten up.
1:33:44
I don't care what everybody else is doing in the jail.
1:33:47
You need to go in and say, I don't want this deal.
1:33:50
I want to get out. I want a real life, I want a
1:33:52
family. I want to work and just have a
1:33:55
normal life. I'm going to sit in my bunk when
1:33:58
I'm supposed to. I'm going to dress like I'm
1:34:00
supposed to. I'm going to do what I'm
1:34:02
supposed to when I'm. So you don't get to make the
1:34:03
rules when you're there. You get out.
1:34:05
You're on probation. You have some freedom, right?
1:34:08
You don't have that freedom in there.
1:34:10
Prove to me between now and sentencing that you can do it.
1:34:13
OK. Go back with the bailout.
1:34:17
Yes, Sir. Thank you.
1:34:34
Mr. Burbank, you have Azarian Adams.
1:34:41
Are there witnesses or just. OK, I'll let you just proper
1:34:46
what she would say unless I need some specific information.
1:34:54
Good morning, good morning. Are you Gazarian Adams and this
1:35:05
is cause numbers 23, DCCR 0492 and 0493.
1:35:11
Mr. Adams is on probation in each of those cases for the
1:35:18
third degree felony offense of deadly conduct.
1:35:20
Discharging a firearm was placed on probation September 26th of
1:35:25
2023. Looks like the allegations in
1:35:28
those motions are an alleged new offense of fleeing from a police
1:35:34
officer in December of 2025, Unlawful carrying a weapon
1:35:39
December of 2025. Failing to associate with
1:35:44
disreputable persons or be present at a location where
1:35:46
criminal act was committed. Failing to report the arrest.
1:35:55
Failing to perform community service out past curfew.
1:36:04
Possessing a firearm in violation of probation, behind
1:36:09
in fees in both cases. Mr. Burbank has filed a motion
1:36:14
asking that I set a bond in each of the cases.
1:36:18
He's on deferred probation. And at this time, there's no
1:36:22
bond. Is that correct, Mr. Burbank?
1:36:25
You may well let me, Mr. Adams, best you can raise your right
1:36:28
hand. Do you swear?
1:36:29
Affirm. The testimony you're going to
1:36:30
give in this hearing will be the truth, the whole truth and
1:36:32
nothing but the truth. Thank you, Mr. Burbank.
1:36:35
You may proceed. Right, just for if I may just
1:36:38
make a. Brief state, Sure.
1:36:40
These two new offenses are. I need everybody to hold it
1:36:43
down. I need you to speak up a little,
1:36:44
please. Thank you.
1:36:47
These two offenses are Mr. Rulers.
1:36:49
I have talked numerous times to the District Attorney.
1:36:54
He has cooperated and as much as he can.
1:36:57
We do not have the actual police reports except the PC.
1:37:04
I don't know if you have the PC or not.
1:37:06
I don't. I'm that's what I was looking
1:37:09
for. Any objection to states one.
1:37:16
One of the things that we are lacking is the video of the
1:37:20
scene because I kind of, I read it as a kind of questions.
1:37:27
So firearms being in the back seat, There were other people in
1:37:32
the car and the firearms were next to them.
1:37:37
No one claimed ownership. But basically because he was the
1:37:40
operator of the car, he was arrested.
1:37:43
I will also submit to you that you were probably the only one
1:37:48
that was not intoxicated at the time.
1:37:51
And as such, it was not his car and he had to get home.
1:37:56
And so he was the designated driver at the time.
1:38:01
And so with that judge, the other thing too, I want to point
1:38:05
out is I've asked Mr. Adams, I believe that he has no write ups
1:38:10
in the jail since he's been incarcerated in reference to any
1:38:16
disciplinary actions. And I would like to call Mr. Go
1:38:20
ahead. For the name for the
1:38:23
restriction. There you.
1:38:26
Go and what I have told the court in reference to.
1:38:30
Your behavior. In jail have you acting
1:38:33
accordingly and you have not had any?
1:38:37
How long have you been incarcerated?
1:38:39
How long been in jail? 18 days.
1:38:44
Now you realize that one of the violations is No, you haven't
1:38:49
been doing your community service before.
1:38:52
Correct. Have you addressed that problem
1:38:54
since you've been in in front? Yes.
1:38:59
Sir, speak up. I connected with my preacher.
1:39:02
Who's your preacher? Jeremy Williams.
1:39:05
And he has a church on Washington Blvd. and he has
1:39:09
advised or has told you and your family that he would make sure
1:39:14
that you got on the right track. And did what you needed to do,
1:39:17
correct? In addition, your mom's back
1:39:20
here, correct? You may not have known that
1:39:22
she's right. You realize that you shouldn't
1:39:26
have been where you were in. Correct.
1:39:28
And you shouldn't have been in a car with with firearms, right?
1:39:31
Though we do have affidavits from the people they are
1:39:34
claiming ownership. We haven't got to that.
1:39:39
They were not your father. OK.
1:39:43
If the court was to consider probing to, to, to, to post a
1:39:48
bond, do you have any problem living with your mom having a
1:39:54
monitor on or any other type of monitor to whether drugs or
1:39:59
alcohol or anything like that, Correct.
1:40:03
And abide and try to get back on track again, You do not have any
1:40:09
assets or reference to bank accounts or anything like that,
1:40:12
correct? And though I am here, this money
1:40:15
came from family. You don't have anything to post.
1:40:20
Well, you'd have enough to post a reasonable bond.
1:40:25
One was. Is that correct?
1:40:29
I have nothing for the bridge unless you might ask some
1:40:32
questions and offers. Give me just a second.
1:40:38
Thank you. I want a last Do you have a job?
1:40:48
No. Sir.
1:40:51
Can you get a job? Yes, Sir.
1:40:54
When was your last job? Construction site, August.
1:41:00
In August. So what were you doing under the
1:41:02
construction site? Flagging.
1:41:04
Flagging. Yes, Sir.
1:41:07
You think you can get that back? I'm actually getting my CDL.
1:41:11
It's also supposed to met with the school that I've been
1:41:13
getting to and I got I'm on my last step to getting my CDL.
1:41:17
So you were enrolled in the school at the time this
1:41:20
happened? Yes.
1:41:21
And you only have one more stage in order to get your CDL
1:41:24
lessons. Yes, Sir.
1:41:44
Mr. Nichols. Judge, my concern is this.
1:41:48
He's on Pro 2 probations for being involved in a shooting, 2
1:41:51
deadly conducts. It was a situation where shots
1:41:54
were exchanged with two different groups of people and
1:41:57
he was on one side of that and obviously there wasn't much
1:41:59
cooperation from the other from either side.
1:42:01
So he ended up with two deadly conduct probations.
1:42:04
Here we have him in a car with two other guys, three people,
1:42:06
three guns and the reason once, once the officer tries to pull
1:42:12
them over, they slow roll for a few more blocks.
1:42:14
That's why it's eluding and not hurt or fleeing a police officer
1:42:17
and not abating in a motor vehicle.
1:42:19
And of course, during that time, all three guns are hidden under
1:42:22
a jacket in the back seat. I don't think that's a
1:42:25
coincidence that we haven't delayed pulling over and then
1:42:29
three guns are in the back seat. What I don't have is a full case
1:42:32
support of all the details. But we can tell.
1:42:34
That from the. Problem cause affidavit.
1:42:38
I believe individual he was with is Xavier Kane and I'm if it's
1:42:45
not in that problem cause definitely that I'm mistaken
1:42:47
because that's the only information I have.
1:42:49
If it is Xavier Kane, he's also a felony probation.
1:42:51
He shouldn't be hanging out with the.
1:42:54
Information Who's in the car with you, Lyndon?
1:42:58
LaSalle. Who's also a felon?
1:42:59
OK, Lyndon LaSalle, junior. I looked this up for Mr. Burbank
1:43:05
the other day. There is a Lyndon LaSalle senior
1:43:06
who's a felon. Lynn LaSalle junior I dismissed
1:43:10
I'm a professional firing by a felon case several years ago.
1:43:13
I do. That's why I recall his name.
1:43:15
OK. He's certainly a person of ill
1:43:17
repute. So he's, he's a.
1:43:19
Prior felon. He may not be.
1:43:21
I think he had a felon. He had a felon, a prior felony.
1:43:25
OK, but not on anything right now.
1:43:27
I I don't. Believe he has a record, judge.
1:43:31
Who was the other person that was in the car?
1:43:34
Zorian Collins. OK.
1:43:36
It didn't matter to me, honestly, at that at this point,
1:43:39
didn't matter. OK, what else?
1:43:40
Anything else? Just if the courts can set a
1:43:44
bond, it has to be high enough bond to protect the community.
1:43:48
This is third case involved in firearms.
1:43:52
Yeah, So, Mr. Adams, the deadly conducts aren't just, I mean, it
1:43:58
was a shootout between. I mean, it's just more of the
1:44:02
same. Hang on, right now is probably
1:44:06
not a good time for you to say anything like Mr. Burbank.
1:44:09
So the first case or the two cases that you're on probation
1:44:13
for, two people actually got shot.
1:44:17
So you and whoever shooting at each other, you admit it to the
1:44:23
police officers that day. So there's no, I didn't do it.
1:44:25
You admit it to it, you pled guilty to it, and two people got
1:44:29
shot, whether it was your bullets or whoever else was
1:44:31
shooting, y'all were all shooting at each other because
1:44:33
your grandma's car got shot up. So obviously y'all were getting
1:44:37
shot at. Y'all were shooting at people
1:44:39
and people who had nothing to do with it ended up getting shot
1:44:43
and you got deferred probation. I sent you to ISF, right?
1:44:47
So you've already been to ISF so that you can get get right, get
1:44:52
the tools to make better decisions.
1:44:54
And here you are out at 11:30 at night with three guns in the
1:44:58
car, smelling like marijuana, cruising around doing what, when
1:45:01
you're supposed to be at home with three guns in the car.
1:45:08
Should you have been at the party?
1:45:11
OK, so it's it's hard for me to believe when you're out at a
1:45:20
party and you're on 2 felony probations for two people
1:45:23
getting shot that you just ended up in some car.
1:45:28
Why didn't you pull over? I'm not asking you to answer
1:45:30
right now, but you didn't pull over when they asked you to.
1:45:34
When they got behind you, you kept going.
1:45:37
So at this time I'm going to find.
1:45:53
All right. I'll grant the motions, but I'm
1:45:55
setting the bonds in each of the cases at $200,000.
1:45:59
A condition of those bonds, if you make them, is that you will
1:46:04
be required. And I thought at some point I
1:46:07
thought I put you on house arrest, but I guess you weren't
1:46:09
on house arrest at the time of this.
1:46:11
Or were you supposed to be on house arrest?
1:46:14
OK, so you will be, if you make the bonds of 200,000 in each
1:46:19
case, then conditions of those bonds are that you have to wear
1:46:25
AGPS monitoring device and you will be on house arrest.
1:46:29
You cannot leave your house except to come to court or visit
1:46:33
with Mr. Burbank without my permission.
1:46:34
Do you understand? All right, go back to the
1:46:37
bailiff. We.
1:46:41
Can set this. Up you're watching TCF live.
1:46:46
Happy Tuesday. Good to have you all here.
1:46:48
For the new people that are out there, and I know there's a
1:46:51
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The thing there is Mike and I have no idea what we're going to
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talk about until we actually start the show.
1:47:45
So it's a lot of fun. Let's go back to Judge West.
1:47:49
Dash 14477 and then 19-32216 previously in court pled true to
1:47:59
counts. Looks like one through 6 or 7.
1:48:03
The numbers are kind of well pled true to failing to report,
1:48:09
failing to appear in court for judicial review, failing to
1:48:13
maintain employment, failing to play pay and fail to complete
1:48:17
anger management. In each of those cases, I've
1:48:20
received an updated report. Has everyone received that
1:48:23
report? We have.
1:48:24
Are there any additions or corrections in that report?
1:48:30
Addition, if I may and if I may with the Court.
1:48:33
Obviously we understand that your decision.
1:48:35
I have spoken at length with Mr. Burbank about it, spoken at
1:48:38
length, Miss Robinson about it. Obviously the Court will see the
1:48:42
age of these cases, especially the one that's from 2000.
1:48:46
Well, they're both only being held.
1:48:48
I only have one choice, right? Right.
1:48:50
Revocation. I can't extend her.
1:48:53
No, no. And that's not what we were
1:48:55
asking. OK, we.
1:48:57
Were proposing based on the age of everything and I believe Mr.
1:49:01
Burbank has the testimony to offer with respect to the fact
1:49:04
that. She.
1:49:06
Was gainfully employed at all times.
1:49:08
She admits that she didn't work for.
1:49:10
I think she's obviously had the problems on probation, but due
1:49:13
to the fact that What I. What frustrates me is that she's
1:49:20
never been in trouble and she's going to become a convicted
1:49:23
felon real quick. She spent considerable amount of
1:49:26
time on these MTR. PS.
1:49:29
Over the. Holidays, etcetera, etcetera.
1:49:31
And we have all discussed asking the court to possibly consider
1:49:35
allowing that. It may be a little bit of
1:49:38
additional time if you feel necessary to serve as a sanction
1:49:41
and just allow her probations to expire out without giving her
1:49:44
the convictions due to the fact that these were not underrated
1:49:47
offenses and the age of obviously up to you, but that's
1:49:53
just something we have. I also have, for the record, Mr.
1:49:58
Burbank's office sent over several letters yesterday, one
1:50:02
from Miss Williams that I've read.
1:50:05
And so, Miss Robinson, you're here today.
1:50:08
Thank you for being here. Had some positive things to say
1:50:12
as well in the updated precedence report.
1:50:19
What are your thoughts on that proposal, Miss Robinson?
1:50:24
You do. I can fill on just a little.
1:50:30
Bit sure. I think she's worked at every
1:50:33
restaurant during this period of time.
1:50:35
She's worked at McDonald's, she's worked at Cracker Barrel,
1:50:39
she's worked everywhere. Whataburger.
1:50:43
She's had. She has five kids.
1:50:46
That's right. Yeah, 5.
1:50:49
Kids, she was currently and still we reached out to Black
1:50:54
Bear Diner before she was picked up for this incident.
1:50:59
She accepted a kind of a promotion to be a manager there
1:51:04
since she's worked her way up from working there to manage her
1:51:09
position and my understanding is is that it's probably still
1:51:12
available. Her mom is here too and she
1:51:16
would just testify. We have attempted to try to get
1:51:19
to verify the W twos, but because she's been in here we've
1:51:24
done the best we can in reference that she has been
1:51:27
avoided. And.
1:51:27
We provided everything to the state and I would ask that you
1:51:35
consider all that. Well, Miss Williams, I really
1:51:42
appreciate your letter more than some that I get because it
1:51:47
really did seem very sincere. And I appreciate that you have
1:51:52
come to realize kind of what started all of this back at
1:51:57
what, 16/15/16, right? And so that real is self
1:52:02
realization is big. It's taken a while, but it's a
1:52:05
big. And so a lot of times I get
1:52:09
letters and I can tell someone else probably wrote them or it
1:52:12
was not from the heart. And I appreciate your letter and
1:52:15
I appreciate what everyone's saying here today.
1:52:17
And based on all that, that I will allow the dismissals of the
1:52:21
motions to revoke. I'll sign those when it comes
1:52:23
through. Do better.
1:52:26
Do better for you and your kids so that you're not back in here
1:52:29
on anything else. OK.
1:52:30
All right. Good luck.
1:52:31
Yes, ma'am. Yes, Sir.
1:52:37
Thank you. All right, friends, let's stay
1:52:39
in Texas. But let's go over to Judge Boyd,
1:52:42
say good morning to her. They're called flago.
1:52:47
What are flagos? They are not fashionable.
1:52:48
I'm going to do that right now, but I wore like the matching
1:52:53
set. So I got the I got the pants and
1:52:55
I got the top. I wore those out in the 18°
1:52:58
weather. I didn't feel a thing for 20
1:53:01
minutes. Wow.
1:53:03
I didn't and I didn't feel a thing until my, my feet got got
1:53:06
cold like those things. I, we wore those during the
1:53:09
freeze. We didn't feel a thing.
1:53:10
I could have turned off the entire heating system to get
1:53:13
that from my brothers. I'm telling OK again, not.
1:53:16
Fashionable. Well, I'm here for the warmth.
1:53:19
I'm not here for the fashion. I'm making this company famous
1:53:22
because that it worked. I'm easily cold.
1:53:25
I'm easily cold. I'll wear 5 layers if I need to.
1:53:28
I almost came to Courtney's to get that.
1:53:31
All right, so we're doing discovery issues.
1:53:35
There's the discovery issues, Judge the and I spoke to states
1:53:39
the defense the prosecutor is on the case is having car issues.
1:53:43
She's not here. But the phone dump that was
1:53:46
talked talked about last setting is has not been produced to
1:53:52
defense that that's something we're still waiting on.
1:53:57
All right. So is that the only thing?
1:53:59
Nope. We also have a motion to
1:54:00
withdraw judge. OK, so can I see the well before
1:54:05
we do the phone records thing, let's take up the motion to
1:54:09
withdraw. Do you have it was filed an
1:54:12
accepted judge. I just.
1:54:13
It was done so. Before I got here so I figured
1:54:16
out a copy anyways all. Right, there's must take class.
1:54:31
Well, I will tell you the in the back office the electricity is
1:54:34
out. So do you mind if I keep this
1:54:37
for the court and they can file stamp it?
1:54:39
Yes, Sir. All right.
1:54:41
Have you had a chance to, before we go on the record, have you
1:54:43
had a chance to review the motion to withdraw?
1:54:48
I said, I said I'm a copy judge. We, I talked to his mother about
1:54:50
it on Thursday of last week. Could you talk to him about it?
1:54:53
I I did talk to him about it as well.
1:54:55
Yes. OK, so you understand the motion
1:54:57
to withdraw all right The court is calling 2025 CR 012576 State
1:55:04
versus Jacob Leal. Can I have parties announced for
1:55:07
the record for the state, for. The state of Texas.
1:55:09
For the defense, John Pettis for defense.
1:55:11
And are you, Mr. Leal, all right?
1:55:14
Your attorney has filed a motion to withdraw.
1:55:17
And before I ask you a couple of questions, State, do you have
1:55:20
any objections to the motion to withdraw?
1:55:22
All right, State you may be excused.
1:55:25
So Mr. Leal, I'll just have a couple of questions for you.
1:55:28
And it's not about the substance of the case, it's just about
1:55:31
this motion. Could you raise your right hand
1:55:33
for me, please? Do you solemnly swear from the
1:55:36
testimony you give would be the truth and nothing but the truth
1:55:38
so help you God? All right, you can lower your
1:55:40
hand. State your name for the record.
1:55:43
All right, Mr. Leal, your attorney has filed a motion to
1:55:46
withdraw. Have you had a chance to discuss
1:55:48
the motion to withdraw with your attorney?
1:55:51
And do you understand your attorney's reasons for wanting
1:55:53
to withdraw? One of the reasons your attorney
1:55:58
has in here is related to your contract with the attorney.
1:56:03
I don't know what your contract is with him or not because this
1:56:07
is not civil, but that's one of the reasons why he wants to
1:56:11
withdraw from your case. Do you have any objections to
1:56:14
your attorney withdrawing? All right, then the court will
1:56:17
grant the motion to withdraw. Counsel your excuse, but counsel
1:56:21
when it when he's given a new attorney, whatever discovery you
1:56:26
have, if you'll make sure that that attorney receives it
1:56:29
absolutely Judge. All right, you may be excused.
1:56:33
Mr. Leo, are you going to be able to afford to hire an
1:56:36
attorney or would you like 1 appointed?
1:56:39
I'm going to work on getting a court appointment.
1:56:42
I mean, I'm working on getting an attorney, but right now if I.
1:56:43
Could like to ever get a court appointment.
1:56:48
OK, the housing has awesome have like.
1:56:50
I'm on a house risk. So here's the thing that will
1:56:53
need to be addressed with whoever your new attorney is
1:56:55
going to be. So do you want one appointed or
1:56:58
do you want OK, just have a seat.
1:57:01
We'll make sure that you get an attorney.
1:57:02
OK. Thank you.
1:57:08
All right, that one was short and sweet.
1:57:10
Let's back to Judge West. Morning, Sir.
1:57:13
You're Robert Trahan and Mr. Trahan has three cases, 25 DCCR
1:57:18
10941317 and 1536. Mr. Eckhart, sounds like you
1:57:25
have been working on the case but need a little more time, is
1:57:27
that correct? OK, I think by the next setting
1:57:37
we. Will talk with.
1:57:38
What direction all this is headed?
1:57:40
OK, any issues? All right, I'm just going to
1:57:43
reset your case when we're reset, and Mr. Eckhart will be
1:57:45
out there to visit with you about everything he has, and
1:57:47
we'll see if we can get an announcement the next court
1:57:49
date. All right, you can go back with
1:57:50
the bailiff. See, Mr. Mr. Parker, you have
1:58:06
Jason Jones. He's one request hearings, I
1:58:11
guess. OK, thanks.
1:58:39
Good morning, Sir. You, Jason Jones and Mr. Parker
1:58:43
will your client with the formal reading of the motion.
1:58:46
Mr. Jones, best you can raise your right hand, please.
1:58:49
Do you swear to affirm the testimony you're going to give
1:58:51
in this hearing will be the truth, the whole truth, and
1:58:53
nothing but the truth. Thank you, Sir.
1:58:55
And so Mr. Jones and cause #23 DCCR 0390, I have a motion to
1:59:01
revoke your community supervision shows that you were
1:59:04
placed on probation June 2nd of 2025 for the third degree felony
1:59:09
offense of unlawful possession of a firearm by felon.
1:59:12
And that that was a 10 year term in prison that was probated for
1:59:16
five years. Is that correct?
1:59:19
It alleges that you violated your probation.
1:59:21
Count 1 alleges that you were arrested for state.
1:59:33
Wish to do anything with that wording.
1:59:36
I would like to amend it. Y'all got to go through all
1:59:39
these on counts 1 and 2. Any.
1:59:46
I have no objection but also point out I assume the date is
1:59:48
wrong on number. Three, that's correct.
1:59:52
It should read June count 3. This is.
2:00:01
Yeah, probably. I'll print it.
2:00:07
I need y'all to go through all these motions for the arrested
2:00:10
language and change those. Kelly an idea of when it started
2:00:17
I'm. Sorry when it started.
2:00:19
She has no idea the P you would the MTRP say arrested for
2:00:27
instead of y'all, y'all y'all's people write on.
2:00:32
So I don't know when they started doing that or who.
2:00:34
If it changed up there, somebody changed that, did that.
2:00:40
OK, They need to. Somebody needs to make it their
2:00:46
job to go back through all of them.
2:00:48
Maybe at least for that year. Seems like it's been an issue I
2:00:51
think. So.
2:00:53
OK. But what I'd like to amend, your
2:00:55
honor, is take out was arrested for and and and put committed,
2:01:01
so recommitted the offense of. And that's on one and two, any
2:01:13
objection to that change in Council 1:00 and 2:00 and then
2:01:17
in count 3? The date should be June 21st,
2:01:21
2020. 5 Any objection to that amendment?
2:01:24
All right, made those changes and grant all that.
2:01:28
OK, so count one in the motion alleges that you violated your
2:01:33
probation by committing the offense, the possession of a
2:01:36
controlled substance, June 21st of 2025 in Jefferson County,
2:01:41
Texas. And is that true or not true?
2:01:44
Count 2 alleges that you committed the offensive
2:01:49
possession of a controlled substance.
2:01:51
So the first one is penalty group was penalty group 1-1/1B.
2:01:58
Count 2 is that you committed the offensive possession of a
2:02:01
controlled substance, penalty group 2A and is that true or not
2:02:05
true? And then Count 3 alleges that
2:02:09
you possessed a drug, marijuana, synthetic marijuana, and crack
2:02:13
cocaine on June 21st of 2025 and is that true or not true?
2:02:18
And then count 4 alleges that you fail to stay away from
2:02:24
locations considered high crime areas by being arrested by BPD
2:02:28
on June 21st of 2025 in a high drug trafficking area with
2:02:33
various illegal substances in your possession.
2:02:35
Is that true or not true? All right, So what we'll do I'll
2:02:39
enter please. If not true to counts one
2:02:41
through 4:00. We will reset this for a
2:02:43
hearing. How long would you anticipate?
2:02:46
I'm assuming you'll need lab and.
2:02:48
This the substances have been sent off to independent lab.
2:02:51
That's product testing that's currently in their possession
2:02:53
being tested. I've made that request in early
2:02:56
December, so I expect it to be back before we have it here.
2:02:58
OK. We'll reset it for hearing.
2:03:00
I'll get an updated pre sentence report and as soon as obviously
2:03:03
you get any of that information, get it to Mr. Parker.
2:03:07
We'll set it for maybe a day where we have a little longer
2:03:11
than just an 11:00. We'll set it where we have time
2:03:14
for officers and whatever we need.
2:03:16
OK. All right.
2:03:16
You can go back with the bailiff.
2:03:23
Wow, that crazy. It's just like
2:03:44
Mr. Radford, you have Corey Fleming's.
2:03:53
Good morning. Good.
2:03:56
How about you cold the cold weathers?
2:04:23
Coleman. Good morning, Sir.
2:04:30
You're Corey Flemings. And Mr. Flemings has two cases,
2:04:33
24 DCCR 2144 and 2145, set for trial to begin with jury
2:04:39
selection next Monday. What is the announcement?
2:04:44
Judge, we're ready, subject to a ruling.
2:04:46
On my motion. To watch the enhancement portion
2:04:49
of the indictment, I would ask which case Mr. Coleman intends
2:04:55
to try first. We.
2:04:56
Intend to try the assault on the peace officer Judge He put on
2:04:59
punishment evidence as soon as I noticed an extraneous of the
2:05:03
injury to the of the disabled person.
2:05:07
And so the enhancement portion wouldn't change anything other
2:05:11
than potential punishment. Yes, ma'am, it would require you
2:05:18
to declare a Penal Code statute on the Constitution.
2:05:25
That would be novel for me. Yes, I figured it was.
2:05:28
I have a case pending in the 9th right now with the same issue.
2:05:33
So I'm hold on a second. Let me look at the indictment.
2:05:36
Is it is the enhancement alleged?
2:05:42
Yeah, so it's alleged in the indictment.
2:05:44
And so I would need to make that ruling prior to jury selection
2:05:51
so that well, we don't talk about punishment range in the
2:05:56
jury selection. I'll, I'll make we'll, we'll
2:05:58
talk about it. I'll get the case numbered.
2:06:00
And then if it's numbered one, we'll handle it either prior to
2:06:04
or just after jury selection because it won't change jury
2:06:08
anything that you say in. Border if if the punishment
2:06:11
range is 25 to 99 and he he is convicted and goes to the jurors
2:06:18
for punishment, I do believe I get to ward our on the potential
2:06:21
range of punishment. And if he gets to ward our on
2:06:23
it, certainly the state would ask for reciprocity.
2:06:26
I don't have a problem with. That well, here's here's how I
2:06:31
handled any enhancements on punishment and how I would
2:06:35
intend to handle it is I do not go into specifics or allow you
2:06:43
guys to go into specifics. I will in my part of talking to
2:06:48
the jury, explain that there are different circumstances that
2:06:52
could lead to higher punishments or lower punishments depending
2:06:57
on the evidence that's presented.
2:06:59
But getting into specific, especially priors, if I'm going
2:07:06
to make some ruling potentially that they're not admissible or
2:07:09
that we're not going to get to until punishment, we're not
2:07:11
going to get into that on guilt innocence, they're.
2:07:13
So we're not going to get into it on for Dyer very specifically
2:07:17
other than if there's something because if you allude to it too
2:07:21
much, I think you're putting yourself and your defendant in a
2:07:24
position where you're telling a jury up front that he has
2:07:28
potential criminal history that could go into their decision
2:07:30
making and guilt innocence. So we're not going into that.
2:07:35
I'll say what I say, but as far as spending a lot of time on it,
2:07:38
that's not going to be an issue during bodire.
2:07:41
I'm not going to allow it to be 1, but I will make the ruling
2:07:44
that day so that we know before we get started if you if it's
2:07:49
going to change anything about the status of trial and if I
2:07:57
deny it, y'all want to renegotiate or if I grant it,
2:08:01
then let me know that if you think it'll change anything,
2:08:04
then I can make that. We can get something done either
2:08:08
later today or tomorrow. I'll take a look at it so that
2:08:11
you know ahead of time because I want to know that, you know, if
2:08:15
I deny the motion to quash, which it sounds like I likely am
2:08:20
not going to find our Penal Code section unconstitutional, if
2:08:24
that changes Mr. Fleming's position, they'll talk about
2:08:30
that today because I want to know that if there's going to be
2:08:32
some type of negotiation and a plea, I want that done today.
2:08:36
Yes, ma'am. OK, course.
2:08:37
Information Regardless of how the court rules, the states were
2:08:40
there in winning this proceeding trial.
2:08:42
Yeah. No, it's going to it's it's
2:08:44
going to be numbered and we're running low on I mean, the
2:08:48
number one just fled this morning and so it's likely this
2:08:52
could go. So I want serious talk to Mr.
2:08:56
Flemings. I've looked at the motion to
2:09:00
quash. If y'all want to talk about it
2:09:02
real quick, I can let you make your argument at this point.
2:09:04
I think we already talked. About it, I think we did.
2:09:06
And so I mean, I can go ahead at this point and deny that motion
2:09:10
to quash that you filed. And so that way it's we've
2:09:17
talked about it, I've read the states brief, I've read what you
2:09:21
filed, which had your information in it.
2:09:23
And so that being done, y'all if y'all want to talk, if that
2:09:27
changes anything. Yes ma'am.
2:09:30
OK, so do you want me to hold it while y'all visit?
2:09:32
I'm, I'm going to, I've got a meeting I've got to go to.
2:09:34
I will visit with him and then if it's going to be a plea, I
2:09:38
will advise the court. No, it's going to plea today and
2:09:40
y'all need to talk now or before doc it's over.
2:09:43
Yes, ma'am. OK, I'll hold it.
2:09:51
I don't see. A order on his motion.
2:10:13
All right, well, they rack up another contestant.
2:10:15
Let's go back up to Michigan, see what's going on with Judge
2:10:17
Mom. Please.
2:10:18
So Angelos, OK, moving forward, if you have to be here in court
2:10:22
before crop taps are not appropriate.
2:10:26
Not a crop top. Well, I'm seeing your belly
2:10:29
between your shirt and your jeans.
2:10:30
So that's a crop top, not a crop top.
2:10:33
Well, it's a crop jacket. OK Council, today's date
2:10:38
scheduled for show cause. Well, there was a show cause
2:10:42
that was scheduled for January 15th on your client's failure to
2:10:46
pay and your refines the cost on her matter and she did not
2:10:50
appear on January 12th. And so the court issued a
2:10:54
warrant January 15th. And Council, do you have an
2:10:57
opportunity to speak to your client regarding her failure to
2:11:00
pay $870 on her case? Yes, Your Honor, in this
2:11:04
circumstance, she's not going to contest that matter.
2:11:08
All right. And so we can do one of two
2:11:11
things. If your client is prepared to
2:11:13
pay some money today and enter into a continued payment plan,
2:11:16
we can set, we can adjourn the show cause or she can plead
2:11:19
guilty and we can proceed. Yonah, my plan indicates that
2:11:22
you did that. In fact, make an online payment
2:11:25
on Sunday, January 25th. And then I know that potentially
2:11:30
we were going to be seeking a payment plan that would be
2:11:33
starting on or about the second of every month.
2:11:35
So I'd ask in the circumstance that there be an adjournment,
2:11:38
that would at least give the court an opportunity to verify
2:11:40
that she did make a payment 2 days ago.
2:11:42
And then I'd anticipate A secondary payment to be
2:11:44
implemented before the next court proceeding.
2:11:47
How much did you pay on Sunday? $50.
2:11:57
OK. We're going to see it.
2:11:58
We're going, we're going to recall this matter in a short
2:12:00
bit. I'm going to see if that shows
2:12:02
anything about posting and then we'll recall this matter.
2:12:05
OK. So just have a seat for a few
2:12:09
minutes then we're going to just double check on that.
2:12:12
All right. And we are on the record in the
2:12:18
matter of the city of Wyandotte versus Mikaela Laux. 251613 Good
2:12:26
morning Arnica Strasenke here on behalf of Mikaela Laux and Miss
2:12:31
Laux, your name for the record. Mikaela Laux.
2:12:41
Day to date scheduled for sentencing on your client's plea
2:12:43
to an amended charge of operating well visibly impaired.
2:12:45
The original charge of operating well intoxicated was dismissed
2:12:49
by way of resolution between council and council.
2:12:51
Do you have an opportunity to review the report and
2:12:53
recommendation with your client? Yes you are all right and add to
2:13:08
the recommendation council as the recommendation.
2:13:11
I believe that it is appropriate.
2:13:12
The 12 month probation with the terms conditions do seem that
2:13:16
they would be very, very appropriate for the
2:13:19
circumstances. She's not on probation or parole
2:13:20
anywhere else. She's not accrued any other
2:13:22
charges. I believe she'll be an excellent
2:13:24
candidate for consideration for early termination and then ask
2:13:26
costs and fines that would be potentially asking consideration
2:13:29
for a payment plan. Thank you, judge.
2:13:32
All right. And so, ma'am, if you were to
2:13:33
test right now, what is in your system?
2:13:35
Nothing all. Right now your level is very
2:13:38
high that that evening a .201, OK.
2:13:45
And so why are you not working, ma'am?
2:13:49
I actually do have a job. I work at Olive Garden now.
2:13:53
OK, OK. And you're it says you're
2:14:05
currently pregnant. Yes.
2:14:08
When do you do? August 1st.
2:14:23
All right. And so, ma'am, I presume that
2:14:27
you stopped using marijuana? Yes.
2:14:30
All right, when's the last time you used marijuana?
2:14:33
The day that I started probation.
2:14:36
Well, you're not on probation yet, ma'am.
2:14:38
Or the day that I started testing.
2:14:40
I've been testing since I went in to court.
2:14:45
OK, And when did you find out you were pregnant, ma'am?
2:14:48
I found out the end of November. OK.
2:14:53
All right. Well, looks like the bond
2:14:55
conditions were a good thing for you then.
2:14:57
Yeah. All right, the first note after
2:14:59
hearing from council hearing from miss logs and reviewing the
2:15:02
report the recommendation that there is reasonable grounds to
2:15:06
department MCL 769.5. The court also finds that
2:15:09
there's that the following sentence is in the best interest
2:15:12
of justice is reasonable proportion to the seriousness of
2:15:15
the matter taken into account the circumstances surrounding
2:15:17
the slots on the legislative guidelines the courts going to
2:15:21
order 12 months probation you're eligible for early discharge and
2:15:25
I'll go over that shortly. You are not to violate any
2:15:29
criminal law of any of government.
2:15:31
You're not to leave the state of the office and son of the court.
2:15:33
You are to report truthfully to your probation officer as the
2:15:36
officers. Your probation officer may
2:15:37
require in person writing or virtually.
2:15:39
You're notify your probation officer immediately of any
2:15:41
change in address or employment status.
2:15:43
You're not use any alcohol or drugs unless prescribed to be
2:15:46
subjected to random testing. The rehabilitative goal for that
2:15:48
condition is so the court come on to your progress in
2:15:50
maintaining absence and sobriety.
2:15:52
The court's going to also order you to participate in outpatient
2:15:55
substance use counseling. The rehabilitative goal for that
2:15:57
condition is so that you can have assistance of providing
2:15:59
coping mechanisms so you can maintain sobriety, hopefully
2:16:02
preventing this man from happening again.
2:16:05
The court's going to also have you participate in the Mad
2:16:07
Victim Impact Panel, The rehabilitative goal for that
2:16:09
condition so you can further increase the understanding of
2:16:11
the dangers of driving while under the influence of the
2:16:13
consequences of such behavior. The court's going to also order
2:16:17
you to participate 5 days on the court workforce.
2:16:19
The rehabilitative goal for that condition is help you further
2:16:22
develop life skills and give back to the community any
2:16:25
questions regarding those conditions.
2:16:28
No. The court's going to order a
2:16:34
$300 fine, $100 screening assessment fee, $600.00
2:16:39
supervision oversight fee. That's $50.00 a month at 12
2:16:42
months. And since you're eligible for
2:16:43
early discharge, up to half of that could be wait $300 to cost
2:16:49
the prosecution. Prime victim assessment fee of
2:16:51
$75, justice system assessment fee of $50.
2:16:54
Workforce is $200. It's five days at $40 a day for
2:16:57
a total of $16125.00. You did post a bond, so you can
2:17:03
apply that and then you can set up your payment plan with
2:17:05
probation. OK, All right.
2:17:09
And as I did indicate, you are eligible for early discharge as
2:17:15
long as all the following have occurred.
2:17:17
You've completed at least half of your original term of
2:17:19
probation. All probation requirements have
2:17:21
been completed. You've had at least three months
2:17:22
without any violations of all money instead of either paid in
2:17:24
full or you made a good faith effort toward making full
2:17:26
payment. All right.
2:17:30
OK all. Right.
2:17:31
Thank you. Have a good day.
2:17:32
You too. Thank you.
2:17:34
Thank you. All right.
2:17:35
And then we are. And so please e-mail it to
2:17:37
probation by 10:30, Ma'am. Council, if you can just message
2:17:41
that to your client. I think she logged off as I was
2:17:44
speaking. Yes, your Honor.
2:17:46
Thank you. And so we are recalling the
2:17:49
matter of Zoe Deangelis 241045. Good morning, Eric.
2:17:55
Christopher Sam, comparing me with my client and your name
2:18:00
again, ma'am, please. Zoe Deangelis.
2:18:02
All right, so it does. We do show here that you did pay
2:18:06
$50. It shows up as yesterday,
2:18:10
obviously, because Sunday we weren't here.
2:18:18
And So what is your proposed payment plan, ma'am?
2:18:21
She was asking for a payment plan to begin on or about the
2:18:24
second of every month starting with February 2nd for $50, Your
2:18:27
honor. OK.
2:18:30
The court will indicate $50.00 per month beginning February
2:18:35
2nd. We will adjourn this to a date.
2:18:42
If you miss a payment then we'll set this back up for show cause
2:18:45
hearing. OK.
2:18:48
If you don't miss a payment ma'am, then the show cause will
2:18:50
be dismissed. OK.
2:18:55
OK. You can top of the window if
2:18:57
you'd like, but you already know how to pay online, so you have
2:18:59
that information. OK, Thank you.
2:19:02
Have a good day, all right, And then we are on the record in the
2:19:07
matter of Huntington House Apartments versus Natalie
2:19:09
Hammond 2502284. Good morning again attorney
2:19:14
Carrie Zanden on behalf of plaintiff.
2:19:16
Actually, let's not. Those disputes are never that
2:19:19
enjoyable. Let's go back to Judge West all.
2:19:26
Right. So are you, David Chapman and
2:19:29
Mr. Rojas? Will your client waive the
2:19:30
formal reading of the indictment here?
2:19:32
We are. Mr. Sorry, let me get this
2:19:41
pulled up. We're going on more than one
2:19:43
count. Mr. Chapman and constant number
2:19:46
23 DCCR 2228. You're charged with the state
2:19:51
jail felony offense of unauthorized use of a vehicle
2:19:55
from November 17th of 2023. That indictment alleges that you
2:19:59
were previously convicted of the third degree felony of
2:20:02
harassment by a person in a Correctional Facility June 10th
2:20:06
of 2016. And then after that was final,
2:20:09
you were convicted of the third degree felony offense of assault
2:20:13
on a public servant October 28th of 2019 in two different cases
2:20:21
On that day. Which and how do you plead to
2:20:24
that charge? How do you plead to the
2:20:27
unauthorized use of a motor vehicle?
2:20:29
And are those prior convictions true?
2:20:32
Did you enter your plea of guilty and true to those prior
2:20:35
convictions freely and voluntarily and because you
2:20:38
actually did what they've charged you with?
2:20:40
Yes, ma'am. I have here on the tablet some
2:20:44
documents that have your signature on them that the state
2:20:47
has marked as exhibit #1. Before you sign these, did you
2:20:51
go over them with Mr. Rojas? Do you fully understand them?
2:20:55
And do you understand if I follow the agreement that you
2:20:58
made with the District Attorney that you'll be waiving or giving
2:21:01
up any right to appeal? Do you also understand, if
2:21:04
you're not AUS citizen, that a plead of guilty or no contest
2:21:07
may result in your deportation, exclusion from admission to the
2:21:11
country, or denial of naturalization under federal
2:21:14
law? State tenors #1 it's admitted.
2:21:18
Is there any evidence that Mister Chapman's not competent?
2:21:21
All right, Sir, I'm going to find that you enter your plea of
2:21:23
guilty and true freely and voluntarily.
2:21:26
Find that you're mentally competent and you understand the
2:21:28
nature and the consequences of your plea.
2:21:30
Find sufficient evidence to find you guilty and at this time find
2:21:33
you guilty of an authorized use of a motor vehicle.
2:21:37
Find those prior convictions true.
2:21:39
Sentence you in accordance with that agreement to a term of
2:21:41
three years in the Institutional division of the Texas Department
2:21:45
of Corrections. You'll receive credit on that
2:21:47
sentence for any time that you've been in custody that the
2:21:50
law gives you the right to receive.
2:21:52
I'm handing you the trial court certification that shows that
2:21:56
this was an agreement that I followed and so you've waived
2:21:59
your right to appeal. I also handed you a written
2:22:02
admonishment regarding your ineligibility to possess a
2:22:04
firearm or ammunition. Because of the judgment entered
2:22:08
against you, you're ineligible under Texas law to possess a
2:22:11
firearm or ammunition. Possession of a firearm or
2:22:14
ammunition could lead to charges against you.
2:22:16
Firearm is a legal term, and you should read that written
2:22:18
admonishment I provide you to see what devices qualify as a
2:22:21
firearm. If you have questions about the
2:22:23
laws that make you ineligible to possess a firearm or ammunition,
2:22:27
or about how long that lasts, you can talk with Mr. Rojas.
2:22:29
All right. Good luck to you, Sir.
2:22:31
You can go back with the bailiff.
2:22:42
Kayden Fontanette, I know.
2:23:01
Check on my other thumb to ask for resets.
2:23:03
OK. Let me sign.
2:23:07
This. So.
2:23:11
On on Francisco Garza with Mr. Nichols.
2:23:19
We're going to reset Mr. Garza, Francisco Garza and then Robert
2:23:23
Simon. We're getting a new offer this
2:23:24
morning if you want us to go over some more discovery before
2:23:26
he. Makes a decision on.
2:23:27
That we're going to also reset Mr. Simon, Miss Mofino, for Mr.
2:23:32
Rojas Rojas so he can go out and go over a little more
2:23:35
information with him. And then this is Mr. Coleman
2:23:39
Fontanet. Good morning, Sir.
2:23:40
You, Kaden Fontanet and Will your client with the formal
2:23:44
reading of the indictment. Here we are.
2:24:08
None. Mr. Fontenot and cause #25 DCCR
2:24:15
1759, you're charged with the first degree felony offense of
2:24:19
aggravated robbery from October 10th of 2025.
2:24:23
And how do you plead to that charge?
2:24:25
And are you pleading guilty freely and voluntarily?
2:24:29
And are you pleading guilty because you did what they
2:24:31
charged you with? I have here on the tablet some
2:24:35
documents that have your signature on them that the state
2:24:37
has marked as exhibit #1 Before you sign these, did you go over
2:24:41
them with Mr. Rojas? Do you fully understand them?
2:24:45
And it looks like there is no agreement in this case, but
2:24:55
you'll marked out one thing but then signed it that so the post
2:24:59
conviction waivers y'all marked out.
2:25:03
But on the admonishment you put that it's a plea bargain and he
2:25:06
has a right to appeal. So if it's unagreed, he has a
2:25:09
right to appeal. So I'm going to need you guys to
2:25:17
sign you and the defendant to sign that bottom, please.
2:25:20
Put you. In a huge favor.
2:25:32
Microwave for 30 seconds. Maybe even a minute.
2:25:37
So cold in here. It's going to close.
2:25:49
Thanks. So it looks like there's no
2:25:53
agreement, which means you're leaving your punishment up to
2:25:55
me. And that range of punishment is
2:25:57
a minimum five years up to 99 years or life in prison.
2:26:01
Do you understand? What'll happen is if I go
2:26:04
forward today, we'll, I'll go through this plea and then I'll
2:26:08
reset your case for sentencing. The Probation department will do
2:26:11
a pre sentence report and then it's sentencing.
2:26:13
Mr. Coleman, Mr. Rojas. Rojas can put on any information
2:26:17
or evidence that they want, and then I'll make that decision.
2:26:20
You understand, you have an absolute right to have a jury
2:26:24
come in and determine two things.
2:26:25
First, you can have them determine if you're guilty or
2:26:28
not. And then if they find you
2:26:30
guilty, you could leave your punishment up to that jury.
2:26:33
If we go forward this way, you're waiving that, right?
2:26:35
And is that what you want to do? Do you want a jury or do you
2:26:43
want me? OK, So you're waiving your right
2:26:45
to a jury, right? OK, Do you also understand if
2:26:49
you're not a U.S. citizen, that a plea of guilty or no contest
2:26:52
may result in your deportation, exclusion from admission to the
2:26:55
country, or denial of naturalization under federal
2:26:58
law? State tenders #1 it's admitted.
2:27:02
Is there any evidence that Mister Fontanet is not
2:27:04
competent? Alright Sir, I'm going to find
2:27:06
that you entered your plea of guilty freely and voluntarily.
2:27:09
Find that you're mentally competent and understand the
2:27:11
nature and the consequences of your plea.
2:27:14
Find sufficient evidence to find you guilty.
2:27:16
However, I'm going to reset your case for sentencing.
2:27:18
Like I said, we'll get that pre sentence report done and then we
2:27:22
will come back later for sentencing.
2:27:24
Anything that you think is important for me to know, get
2:27:27
that information to Mr. Rojas and he'll present it to me on
2:27:29
your behalf when we come back. Do either of you anticipate in a
2:27:34
long hearing or just a normal day, we should be fine.
2:27:37
OK, we'll see. Y'all back at sentencing, Mr.
2:27:39
Fontanet, I don't know that we checked today or not.
2:27:42
Just want to let you know something real quick.
2:27:44
But for sentencings, we always get jail incident reports.
2:27:48
So I don't know what you've been doing.
2:27:50
Hopefully nothing. But if you have been acting up
2:27:53
and getting incident reports in our jail, it better stop today
2:27:57
because I'll look at all of them.
2:27:59
And if there's reports when you come back, it is very unlikely
2:28:03
that you're going to get a whole lot of anything out of me as far
2:28:08
as low end of the punishment range or probation or things
2:28:12
like that. If you can't follow the rules
2:28:13
out there. OK, OK, we'll see you back at
2:28:15
sentence. Interesting that judge gave him
2:28:20
that warning. I've not heard her do that
2:28:22
before. I've heard her take it into
2:28:23
account when she's seen reports, but not warn somebody ahead of
2:28:26
time. Hey, don't get reports.
2:28:28
So interesting. Let's keep dance around Texas.
2:28:32
Go back to Judge Boyd. You entered A plea bargain
2:28:35
agreement with the state on December 4th.
2:28:37
According to your plea, state is proceeding on count 2.
2:28:42
Punishment is to be assessed at a cap of six years in the
2:28:44
prison. There's $1000 fine.
2:28:47
State is silent on your applications.
2:28:49
And this is the run concurrent with 2025 CR 012977.
2:28:58
I don't have that pause number. Does she have a motion to revoke
2:29:03
as well or no? No, she's gone on for a bit.
2:29:06
The. Other name is under cables.
2:29:08
Do you? I believe you reindicted it.
2:29:10
There's two. She was initially under table do
2:29:14
and I think it was reindicted on the Sanchez, yes.
2:29:18
So. And the 8828 was to be A-O2.
2:29:23
No, no, no. The 2025 CR 012977, that's what
2:29:27
you all say. It's running concurrently with.
2:29:31
So is that a motion to revoke? What is that?
2:29:34
It's not standing. All right, so is that a case she
2:29:40
planned on? What?
2:29:41
Why is that running concurrently?
2:29:42
Pleading both of them concurrently.
2:29:44
Oh. OK.
2:29:45
Same clip. Oh, and so that's the one that
2:29:47
is now the Dash 02. No.
2:29:51
Dash 02 is 1, the other one is 0129772.
2:29:56
Different cases, one was 20211's 2025.
2:29:59
All right. So in your plea bargain
2:30:01
agreement, it says that this is running concurrently with 2025
2:30:04
CR 012977, right? So what case is?
2:30:08
That bargain should be under 2021 CR 8828-02.
2:30:16
So it says something else in the plea bargain agreement.
2:30:20
Your Honor site, thank you. That's listed as a case when I
2:30:36
look it up. I think both cases were in the
2:30:54
second stage. Do y'all want to see the the
2:31:08
agreement? Yeah, yeah, I need this case
2:31:28
number. I'm sorry.
2:31:30
So what is it? What is that case related to?
2:31:33
It's not the 2021 case. Yeah. 2021 is the one that's
2:31:37
going to run concurrent with this lead.
2:31:40
One is at 88 dash O2. No.
2:31:43
But what I'm saying is we're off the record in the plea bargain
2:31:46
agreement. It has the 2025 case.
2:31:48
So is that 25 case same as some other case?
2:31:54
The 2025 case is the drug case arising out of 7312025 and that
2:32:00
is to be concurrent with the DC2021CR8828-02.
2:32:06
So she. Has 2 drug cases you.
2:32:11
Don't need to give it. Two, actually.
2:32:16
Oh, OK. The paperwork got switched.
2:32:24
That looks lodged. That's OK.
2:32:32
Yeah, that goes there. All right, I'm going to recall
2:32:52
the case, the case the court is calling 2025 CR 012977 and 2021
2:33:00
CR 882802, State versus Mary Elizabeth Sanchez.
2:33:05
Can I have parties announced? For the defense.
2:33:10
And argument Sanchez all right and calls number 2025 CR 012977.
2:33:16
You entered A plea. According to your plea bargain
2:33:18
agreement, punishment is to be assessed at a cap of six years
2:33:21
in the prison. There's $1000 fine.
2:33:24
This will rank concurrent with 2021CR8828-02 and in cause #2021
2:33:32
CR 8828-02. According to your plea bargain
2:33:37
agreement, the State is proceeding on Count 2.
2:33:39
Punishment is to be assessed at a cap of six years in the
2:33:42
prison. There's $1000 fine and this will
2:33:45
rank concurrently with 2025 CR 012977.
2:33:51
Have both parties had a chance to review the PSI report and TAP
2:33:54
evaluation? We have, your Honor.
2:33:57
Any objections? No objection.
2:33:59
All right, Defense. Do you have any witnesses?
2:34:02
We do not have any. Witnesses.
2:34:03
We have some documents presented to the court that we have
2:34:05
previously come to the state. All right, you may proceed.
2:34:08
All right, Judge, we are asking for probation in this case.
2:34:12
We prefer outpatient. She does.
2:34:15
She recognizes she needs some treatment.
2:34:17
TAP agrees to that. They're recommending either SATA
2:34:21
I think or outpatient. She's asking for the outpatient.
2:34:27
She has no prior record. She has a history here of some
2:34:30
drugs, not a heavy user but some.
2:34:33
I would note at one point in the PSI it says that she think in
2:34:37
the second case she had a boyfriend were driving making
2:34:41
deliveries, those who she was delivering for Uber, I think,
2:34:44
but not drug deliverers. Since she's been incarcerated,
2:34:48
she understands she's got a problem.
2:34:51
She and I have talked. She has a couple of problems.
2:34:53
There is there is a drug issue there.
2:34:55
She's had some problems making decisions and frankly she has an
2:34:58
esteemed problem over some bad decisions in the past.
2:35:03
I, I can, I can give you these one at a time and explain what
2:35:07
I'd rather do is let you look at these.
2:35:08
I would comment on one. There is a winged course there.
2:35:12
She has not only taken that course, she is now in men for it
2:35:15
in that course, worked hard when she's been in the jail two
2:35:20
years. Figure out Friday #1 Trying to
2:35:24
take care of the drug issue but also.
2:35:26
Trying to work on. Her theme and her bill to make
2:35:28
decisions of self to be a good my she does say she is certified
2:35:33
in medical billing and and and coding.
2:35:37
There we go. So she's employable.
2:35:41
She wasn't doing that before. Again, I think that part of that
2:35:43
was a resting issue. I think if we get that get her
2:35:46
straightened out, she can be a very productive member of the
2:35:49
society. If yes, three children are all
2:35:51
grown. So we ask you give give her a
2:35:57
chance probation starting at least with outpatient treatment.
2:36:01
I don't not a it doesn't have a heavy drug use issues, but
2:36:04
enough to lower her judgment. I have a few questions.
2:36:10
Any objections? Objection right?
2:36:12
Can you raise your right hand? Do you solely swear from the
2:36:15
testimony you give will be the truth and nothing but the truth
2:36:17
so help you God? All right, you can lower your
2:36:19
hands. State your name for the record.
2:36:20
All right, make sure your peak speak up so I can hear in the
2:36:24
court report. We can hear.
2:36:27
So your boyfriend's did he know that you had these drugs?
2:36:34
That's either yes or no. All right, so it appears that he
2:36:38
may not be a good person in your life if he is aware that you had
2:36:42
these drugs. And from what I'm reading, it
2:36:47
wasn't a small amount of drugs. So were you using at that time?
2:36:54
And how much were you using? I was already starting to break
2:36:58
myself off. So I'm sick and so your children
2:37:06
were. Was Child Protective Services
2:37:08
ever involved in your life before?
2:37:10
Yeah, but not. Because meals where I was
2:37:12
resulting at the time when they were little, they have a CPS so
2:37:15
they opened it on me. I completed my.
2:37:18
Parenting class and my therapy class they required.
2:37:21
And I was finished. With that, they signed off.
2:37:24
All right. And did you regain custody of
2:37:26
your children? I never lost custody.
2:37:28
They resided with me and I had a family based service all right
2:37:36
this is what I I don't know if there's I know you all are
2:37:39
silent no questions OK and your boyfriend that you were in this
2:37:48
relationship with who all lived in the household his.
2:37:52
Parents. OK.
2:37:55
And when's the last time you had full employment?
2:38:01
Full time and. Part time, full time, all the
2:38:05
time. I work, I live in Boston going
2:38:08
what? Medical.
2:38:11
OK, all right, I'm going to give you a choice.
2:38:13
Sometimes I can give people choices, sometimes I can't.
2:38:17
If I grant your application, there's going to be residential
2:38:21
treatment. So the outpatient thing is out
2:38:23
of the question. It's going to be residential or
2:38:26
I can deny your application and I'll send it to you to three
2:38:30
years in the prison. Which do you prefer?
2:38:36
OK. Do you need to discuss anything
2:38:39
with your attorney? I'm sorry.
2:38:42
All right, I'll help you discuss with her, her options and then
2:38:45
just let me know. All right, Who's next?
2:38:54
All right, well, she discusses her options.
2:38:56
Let's go back to Judge West. Mark Anthony King And so Mr.
2:39:02
King is charged in cause #25 VCCR 106-3106, four and one O 6
2:39:09
five with aggravated sexual assault of a child.
2:39:14
The bonds, it looks like, are they all set at 2:50?
2:39:17
The bonds are currently all set at $250,000.
2:39:20
Miss Holmes has filed a motion asking for me to reduce those
2:39:24
bonds. And just based on what you guys
2:39:28
were just saying, looks like offense dates were from 2018 and
2:39:31
2019. Mr. King was a juvenile at the
2:39:35
time and has now been certified. When I say at the time, at the
2:39:40
time of the offense as a juvenile, but certified to stand
2:39:42
trial as an adult at this point, correct.
2:39:44
We're all on the same page. OK, Mr. Nichols, before we go
2:39:48
too much into it, what is the state's position with regard to
2:39:51
bond? I don't have.
2:39:55
A huge objection to a reasonable bond, Your Honor.
2:39:57
This case involves allegations with an 8 year old girl or 8
2:40:01
year old at the time. It was a delayed discovery,
2:40:04
delayed outcry. In all candor, I've had trouble
2:40:08
getting in touch with her family and so I don't know where this
2:40:11
case is going to end up at this point.
2:40:14
Was there? What was the relationship with
2:40:18
the alleged cousin? OK, so, Mr. King, where will you
2:40:24
be living if you make bond in your case?
2:40:26
Oh, my sister. With your sister.
2:40:29
And what do you know The address?
2:40:33
Is it Beaumont? Is it Port Arthur?
2:40:34
Is your is she here? No.
2:40:37
Can I talk to his mom? It's in Beaumont.
2:40:40
It's in Beaumont. What's your sister's name?
2:40:42
Raven Wilson. Raven Wilson.
2:40:46
OK. Does Raven have children?
2:40:50
How many? How?
2:40:55
That's going to be a problem. So here's the thing, based on
2:41:02
the nature of these allegations, at least while your case is
2:41:05
pending, if I reduce those bonds, you're not going to be
2:41:08
around any children under the age of 18.
2:41:11
So do you have another option of where to live?
2:41:16
You'll have to ask your mom, OK, so let's do this.
2:41:22
I'm, I'm not opposed to reducing the bonds, but I need to know
2:41:27
that there is a place where there are no children under the
2:41:30
age of 18 with someone who's willing to make sure kind of
2:41:33
that that happens. We don't need to have a hearing
2:41:36
necessarily. I'll make the conditions of
2:41:38
that. I'll likely have AGPS monitoring
2:41:42
device and I understand that that's a financial issue.
2:41:44
So I'll take that into consideration on the amounts and
2:41:47
also what Mr. Nichols said about the complaining witness and some
2:41:51
difficulties. We'll.
2:41:52
Continue to to do our job, judges, just at this point we
2:41:55
haven't been able to make contact.
2:41:57
OK. And is it the same complaining
2:41:59
witness? And there is a?
2:42:00
Three, there's two complaining witnesses in three the three
2:42:02
cases. OK.
2:42:03
All right. And are they the same?
2:42:08
Same rough. Family, family, but is the.
2:42:11
Same person, I just had two different dates.
2:42:12
But the two, the two complaining witnesses, what is their
2:42:15
relationship to each other? They're cousins.
2:42:17
They're also cousins. Everybody's cousins.
2:42:19
OK. All right.
2:42:21
So, yeah, get me that information if you'll just send
2:42:25
an e-mail, Miss Holmes, to Mr. Nichols and I, and I'll let
2:42:28
y'all know together what the amount is and what the
2:42:32
conditions are, as long as there's a place that is for sure
2:42:35
with those children in the age of 18.
2:42:37
OK. Thank you, Your Honor.
2:42:39
Thank you. And per our normal arrangement
2:42:43
here at TCF, we don't seek that stuff out, but we seem to step
2:42:47
into it once or twice every single day.
2:42:50
What is wrong with this world? Any who decision has been made
2:42:56
back to Judge Boyd. 012977 and 2021 CR 882802 State versus Mary
2:43:05
Elizabeth Sanchez. So Miss Sanchez, did you have an
2:43:09
opportunity to confer with your attorney?
2:43:11
All right, which do you prefer? OK, just how to explain that she
2:43:16
doesn't understand? She thought you were offering
2:43:18
her straight incarceration or incarceration retreatment.
2:43:22
She wants probation. OK.
2:43:24
Retreat this time. All right state you may be
2:43:28
excuse and would you prefer a
2:43:42
conviction or deferred? Preferred deferred.
2:43:48
All right, we're proceeding and cause #2021, I'm sorry. 2025 CR
2:43:57
012977. This is the court's ruling.
2:44:05
Court will sentence you to six years deferred adjudication.
2:44:09
There's to be regular reporting by Zoom or in person.
2:44:13
Regular random UA's, proof of employment within 45 days of
2:44:18
release. No employment as a home health
2:44:21
care provider or with minors. Bill visits one time per month
2:44:30
until further notice in custody. She's the remaining custody for
2:44:40
transfer to SATA and probation. We can do a referral to felony
2:44:48
drug court. If she's accepted in felony drug
2:44:50
court, then she can go to felony drug court, but she's the
2:44:53
remaining custody for that evaluation.
2:45:02
Mr. Ron, concurrent with 2021 CR 8828-02300 hours of community
2:45:14
service restitution. There'll be one hour deducted
2:45:18
for every sober support meeting completed.
2:45:26
There's been no residing in households with minors.
2:45:34
Probation. Is there anything else with
2:45:36
regards to that case? Is there anything else you need
2:45:39
from the court in that cause number to help you be
2:45:43
successful? Next we're going to proceed and
2:46:15
2021 CR 8828-02. What is going to sentence you to
2:46:50
six years deferred adjudication? There's $1000 fine that will be
2:46:55
probated proof of employment within 45 days of release.
2:47:00
No employment as a home health care provider or with minors.
2:47:06
This will run concurrent with 2025 CR 012977.
2:47:12
Bill visits one time per month until further notice and custody
2:47:19
for a transfer to SATAF and also a referral to felony drug court.
2:47:28
In custody. There's to be no residing in
2:47:34
households with minors. 100 hours of community service.
2:47:43
Restitution one hour deducted for every completion of sober
2:47:49
support meeting, probation. Is there anything else?
2:47:54
Regular reporting, I'm so sorry. Regular reporting by Zoom or in
2:48:00
person and regular random UA's. Is there anything else you need
2:48:06
from the court? All right.
2:48:08
And each of those calls numbers, Did you review documents
2:48:11
entitled trial court certification of defendants
2:48:13
rights to appeal with your attorney?
2:48:15
Did you understand it and sign it and each of the cost numbers?
2:48:20
Because I followed your plea bargaining agreement and because
2:48:23
you've waived your right to appeal, you do not have the
2:48:26
court's permission to appeal, do you understand?
2:48:30
All right. And Council, I'm just trying to
2:48:32
find the other application. I'm sorry, the other trial court
2:48:37
certification for you there. We are all right.
2:48:42
We can go off the record in this court.
2:48:43
To be successful on probation, communication is key.
2:48:47
If there's an issue, let your probation officer know about it.
2:48:50
If you feel they're not addressing it, you can always
2:48:52
come back to the Fort and address it with me.
2:48:54
Do you understand? Now?
2:48:56
This is what I know with drug addiction, you got to be honest
2:49:00
with yourself. If you're not honest with
2:49:02
yourself, you're not going to be successful.
2:49:04
And one of the hardest things with drug addiction is being
2:49:06
honest that you need help in their issues.
2:49:09
Do you understand? All right, good luck to you.
2:49:12
OK, You're welcome. All right, Texas continues to be
2:49:25
where all the fun is. Let's go right back to Judge WA.
2:49:31
Week or two to come get anything that you want together for me on
2:49:35
sentencing since it's a cap now. Yeah, whatever best of the.
2:49:41
OK, let's do that. So I'm just going to that way
2:49:44
and just remind me to to look at that again for sentencing.
2:49:47
We don't need anything updated. He's been in custody the whole
2:49:50
time. So let's just reset it a couple
2:49:52
weeks at the most. And so Mr. Lowe, I'm just going
2:49:55
to reset your sentence, your case.
2:49:56
Let's go ahead and go through the please though today and then
2:50:00
we'll reset it for sentencing, but without an updated pre
2:50:02
sentence report. We'll do it that way.
2:50:03
All right, all right, Give me just a second.
2:50:05
And I've rejected it, so we've got to go through all of it
2:50:07
again. So.
2:50:10
And again, you're Robert Lowe and Miss Holmes.
2:50:13
Will your client waive the formal reading of the indictment
2:50:15
in each case? All right, let's see.
2:50:18
We're going on the. 1st 36. O6O61 and 62.
2:50:34
I know we've already done this Mr. Lowe, but because I reject
2:50:36
that first plea agreement, then I'm going to we have to go
2:50:40
through it all again just like we if we had not done it before.
2:50:43
All right, so in cause #19-32660 you're charged with a third
2:50:50
degree felony offensive possession of child pornography
2:50:53
from June 4th of 2018. And how do you pleaded that
2:50:56
charge? Are you pleading guilty freely
2:50:59
and voluntarily and because you did what they charged you with?
2:51:03
And then in cause #19-32661, you're also charged with the
2:51:09
third degree felony offense of possession of child pornography
2:51:12
from June 4th of 2018. And how do you pleaded that
2:51:15
charge? And again, are you pleading
2:51:17
guilty freely and voluntarily and because you did what they
2:51:21
charged you with? And then finally, in cause
2:51:24
#19-32662, you're charged with the third degree felony offense
2:51:30
of possession of child pornography from June. 4th.
2:51:34
Of 2018. And how do you plead to that
2:51:37
charge? Sorry.
2:51:39
And again, are you pleading guilty freely and voluntarily?
2:51:42
And because you did what they've charged you with in all three of
2:51:46
those cases, I have here on the tablet some documents that have
2:51:50
your signature on them that the state has marked as exhibit #1.
2:51:54
Before you sign these, did you go over them with Miss Holmes?
2:51:57
Do you fully understand them? And do you understand if I
2:52:01
follow the agreement that you've made with the District Attorney
2:52:04
that you'll be waving or giving up any right to appeal?
2:52:07
And it looks like the agreement that you've reached is for a cap
2:52:10
of six years in prison, which means if I follow the agreement,
2:52:14
I cannot give you more than six years.
2:52:16
I could give you 6 years. I could give you less.
2:52:19
It'll all depend on any other information that's brought to me
2:52:22
and the information that I already have when we come back
2:52:25
for sentencing. You have an absolute right to
2:52:28
have a jury determine two things.
2:52:30
The first is to determine if you're guilty or not.
2:52:33
And then if they find you guilty, you could leave your
2:52:36
punishment up to that jury. If we go forward this way,
2:52:39
you're waving that right? And you're leaving your
2:52:42
punishment up to me within that range of the cap.
2:52:45
And is that what you want to do? OK.
2:52:48
And do you also understand, if you're not AUS citizen, that a
2:52:55
plea of guilty or no contest may result in your deportation,
2:52:58
exclusion from admission to the country, or denial of
2:53:01
naturalization under federal law?
2:53:03
State tenors #1 in each case, it's admitted in each case.
2:53:07
Is there any evidence that Mister Lowe is not competent?
2:53:10
All right, Sir, I'm going to find that you entered your pleas
2:53:12
of guilty in each case freely and voluntarily.
2:53:15
Find that you're mentally competent and you understand the
2:53:17
nature and the consequences of those pleas.
2:53:20
Find sufficient evidence to find you guilty.
2:53:22
However, I'm going to reset your cases for sentencing just so
2:53:25
that we can all get back up to speed on it.
2:53:27
If there's any other information you think is important for me to
2:53:29
know, get that information to Miss Holmes and she'll present
2:53:32
it to me on your behalf when we come back.
2:53:35
Also, it is part of the plea agreement.
2:53:37
It looks like that the state is going to dismiss cause numbers
2:53:41
193266332664 and 32665 as part of that agreement.
2:53:49
All right, we'll see you back at sentencing.
2:53:50
Go back with the bailiff. Yes, Sir, it's still an option.
2:53:57
Yes. You can get anything from six
2:54:00
years down to two years. Probation is on the table or
2:54:05
it's you're legally entitled to for me to consider that.
2:54:08
Yes. OK.
2:54:11
Yes, Sir. You can go back with the
2:54:12
bailiff. See, Mr. Lewis, you have David
2:54:18
Dartez. On a on.
2:54:31
TS we have an. Agreement on them, so I wasn't
2:54:33
sure. I actually did the right.
2:54:34
Paperwork MTRP and could have just lined through that first
2:54:40
page. I'll mark through the 1st and
2:54:43
actually the top of the second as well on MTRP so I always mark
2:54:46
through them if y'all don't. I wrote MTRP that's.
2:54:49
Perfect. Thank you.
2:54:59
Good morning. Are you David Dartez, and will
2:55:02
your client wave the formal reading of the motion?
2:55:16
Mr. Dartez, and cause number 2239677, I have a motion to
2:55:20
revoke your unadjudicated probation shows that you were
2:55:24
placed on probation July 11th of 2022 for the offense of theft of
2:55:28
property, a third degree felony, and that was a six year deferred
2:55:32
probation, Is that correct? The motion alleges that you
2:55:37
violated your probation. Count 1 alleges that you failed
2:55:41
to report to the State of Louisiana Community Supervision
2:55:44
and Correctional Department March, April, May, June, July,
2:55:50
and August of 2024. And is that true or not true?
2:55:55
OK. Count 2 alleges that you failed
2:55:57
to report by mail or online to Jefferson County, Texas,
2:56:02
October, November and December of 2022, January through June of
2:56:09
2023, September of 2023, and then November and December of
2:56:15
2023, and then January through September of 2024.
2:56:24
Is that true or not true? Yes.
2:56:26
Ma'am, that's true. Count 3 alleges that you
2:56:29
provided a urine sample October 10th of 2024 that tested
2:56:33
positive for marijuana. Is that true or not true?
2:56:35
Yes ma'am. Count 4 ledges that you failed
2:56:40
to provide verification of performing the community service
2:56:43
hours is required. Is that true or not true?
2:56:47
Count 5 alleges that you failed to provide verification of
2:56:50
completing the theft prevention class.
2:56:52
Is that true or not true? And then Count 6 alleges that as
2:56:57
of October 10th, 2024, you were $650 behind in your fees.
2:57:02
Is that true or not true? Did you enter your please of
2:57:06
truth accounts one through 6 freely and voluntarily?
2:57:10
And because those counts are true, right?
2:57:16
I have here on the tablet some documents that the states marked
2:57:19
as exhibit #1. Before you signed these, did you
2:57:23
go over them with Mr. Lewis? Do you fully understand them?
2:57:28
And you understand if I follow this agreement that you'll be
2:57:31
waving or giving up any right to appeal And it looks like the
2:57:35
agreement is for me to continue. You on probation likely extend
2:57:42
an order that you enter and successfully complete ISF which
2:57:47
which program and probations here.
2:57:53
Thank you for being here, Sir. Is, is this also what you
2:57:59
believe that would be appropriate for Mr. Dartez?
2:58:03
OK, and so is that your understanding of the agreement
2:58:10
state tenors #1 it's admitted any evidence that Mister Dartez
2:58:14
is not competent. Any reason not to go forward
2:58:18
today? All right, Mr. Dartez, it looks
2:58:23
like everybody is willing to work with you and give you a
2:58:25
chance to be successful in this probation.
2:58:28
The number one thing is you got to show up.
2:58:30
You've got to do your reporting online and in person.
2:58:34
I mean, you're, this looks like you tested positive for
2:58:38
marijuana one time, which is obviously we don't want you
2:58:40
doing, but we don't know what you're doing if you're not
2:58:42
showing up. So in my opinion, you're
2:58:44
probably, we're doing that a whole lot more and just not
2:58:46
showing up. If you continue to violate and
2:58:49
not show up in person, not show up online, test positive again,
2:58:54
and you're back in court on a motion to revoke, it's not going
2:58:56
to go this smoothly. Do you understand?
2:58:59
So I'm going to find that you integer, please retreat accounts
2:59:01
one through 6 freely and voluntarily find those counts
2:59:04
true, find sufficient evidence to find you guilty and revoke
2:59:07
your probation. But I'm not going to do that
2:59:09
today. I'm going to continue you on
2:59:12
probation. I'm going to extend your
2:59:14
probation by two years. You didn't show up for a while,
2:59:17
so you're going to get more probation, an order that you
2:59:20
enter and successfully complete the ISF cognitive track.
2:59:24
And then it sounds like some type of aftercare substance
2:59:29
abuse, depending on where he is would be appropriate.
2:59:32
So if he's back here for some reason, JCDI, if not and he ends
2:59:37
up back in Louisiana, some program like that for any type
2:59:41
of drug issues. So I'm handing you the trial
2:59:45
court certification that shows this was an agreement that I
2:59:48
followed. And so you've waived your right
2:59:50
to appeal. All right, take advantage of
2:59:53
this. All right, good luck to you.
2:59:54
You can go back with the bailiff.
2:59:58
So there will not be 1/4 hour today.
3:00:00
I have matters I need to tend to between the two shows between
3:00:03
this and sidebar. But we'll go back to Judge
3:00:08
Boyd's court for one last hearing for the day.
3:00:10
Pleading to each one of these cause numbers and the cause
3:00:13
#2025 CR 011020. According to your plea bargain
3:00:19
agreement, punishment is to be assessed at
3:00:32
five years in the prison. There is a $2000 fine.
3:00:36
There's no application for community supervision.
3:00:38
The State is opposed to your deferred adjudication and this
3:00:42
is the run concurrent. All right, off the record we
3:00:49
appear that we're missing some cause numbers for me.
3:00:53
So this is running concurrent with 2024 CR 007176.
3:01:03
Was that a motion to revoke or something?
3:01:06
717 All right, And has that already been taken care of or
3:01:12
no? He entered a plea of truth.
3:01:19
And then we have 2025 CR 011020. That's the status of right.
3:01:30
And then 2025 CR 011309 A. And OK, all right, I see where
3:01:36
we are now. Thank you.
3:01:41
All right, so we're back on the record.
3:01:44
And then in cause #2025 CR 011311 C, according to your plea
3:01:51
bargain agreement in that cause, punishment is to be assessed at
3:01:55
a cap of 12 years in the prison. There's a $2000 fine.
3:02:00
The State is opposed to your application for deferred
3:02:02
adjudication. All cases are running
3:02:04
concurrently and then the State is taking in consideration 2025
3:02:12
CR 011310 C and 2025 CC 009777 and in the cause #2025 CR 011309
3:02:27
A. According to your pre bargaining
3:02:30
agreement, punishment is to be assessed at a cap of 12 years.
3:02:33
In the prison. There's a $2000 fine.
3:02:36
The State is opposed to your application for deferred
3:02:38
adjudication. All cases will run concurrently
3:02:42
and the previously mentioned cases will be taken in
3:02:45
consideration. And in both cause #2025 CR
3:02:49
011309 A and 2025 CR 011311 C, there's an affirmative finding
3:02:57
of deadly weapon and each of the cause numbers.
3:03:00
Have both parties had a chance to review the PSI Report?
3:03:04
Yes, Judge. Any objections to the PSI report
3:03:07
from either party? The only thing we'd like to
3:03:10
point out judges there was some question about whether he had
3:03:15
prior gang activity and he does not.
3:03:17
I think they checked that he did, but they did say it was
3:03:19
questionable and he is telling me he has never been in a gang
3:03:25
and state. Do you have any witnesses?
3:03:29
Defense? The court has reviewed the
3:03:32
letter from the defendant, which is the court's understanding
3:03:35
that the state had no objections.
3:03:37
So I've reviewed, I'm sorry, I've reviewed that letter.
3:03:40
Defense, any witnesses? We do judge.
3:03:42
All right, you may call your first witness.
3:03:44
We would call Mr. Hernandez's mother against the counter.
3:04:07
Hello. Hi.
3:04:09
Could you raise your right hand for me, please?
3:04:11
Do you solemnly swear? Affirm.
3:04:12
The testimony you give will be the truth and nothing but the
3:04:14
truth so help you God? Yes, ma'am.
3:04:16
All right, you can lower your hand.
3:04:17
State your name for the record. Ivana Mcgaha.
3:04:19
All right, I'm sorry. Could you, Vanna?
3:04:21
Rebecca Mcgaha. Could you spell your last name
3:04:24
for the court reporter, MCGAHA. Thank you.
3:04:28
You may proceed. This is Mcgaha.
3:04:30
How are you related to Adrian Isaac Hernandez?
3:04:33
I'm his mom. OK.
3:04:34
And how old is he? 19, OK.
3:04:37
And could you tell the quote where you live?
3:04:40
I live in Smiley, Texas. And what county is that in?
3:04:43
In Gonzales. Of that town in between, I think
3:04:49
like 500. I mean, it's a small town.
3:04:51
Nothing's gone. OK.
3:04:53
The two schools and a Dollar General.
3:04:56
OK. And if if the court were to
3:04:59
grant probations to your son, is that where he would be living?
3:05:04
Yes. OK.
3:05:05
And. There's a school there for him
3:05:07
to attend. Yes.
3:05:08
OK. And could you tell the court why
3:05:12
you believe that Adrian should be on probation?
3:05:16
You're saying that I hope I'll be the first.
3:05:20
I've been praying hard and with my faith and.
3:05:25
And his friend? I mean, we've been just striving
3:05:28
long road, but I know God is the Oh my God.
3:05:34
I got my family all in church with prayer and faith and I got
3:05:41
my mom home with me too. So and I feel also changed.
3:05:49
So I'm learning new things too, but they're all going.
3:05:54
We have actually, I thought a lot of our families together
3:05:58
still. And he's, I'm missing peace.
3:06:04
So Missus Mcaha, the court's going to want to know how it is
3:06:08
that Adrian kind of fell off the path and how you're going to get
3:06:11
him back on the path. I have a day and night with me
3:06:16
and my husband. And I was.
3:06:19
Taking that's my work at night so I can take appointments, all
3:06:24
my kids so I can deal with that part in the morning if needed.
3:06:28
Finances, I know how we're able to finance if we need help with
3:06:33
that, if there's people that are helpless if needed on finance
3:06:36
wise or I do try to do overtime so that I can achieve those
3:06:41
funds to be a conflict as well. And then the.
3:06:45
Church has been very helpful and helping us with our children as
3:06:50
well as the score that my children are in support and
3:06:54
helping us with organizations outside of school to get them in
3:06:59
right structure with speech or any things that they're needing
3:07:06
or their health issues or mental states as well.
3:07:11
And was your son in special classes?
3:07:14
Yeah. OK.
3:07:15
Is that a five O 4 designation? Do you know?
3:07:17
I was one of them and he did have also.
3:07:21
Behavior. From his ADHD and stuff like
3:07:25
that. And how high did he get in
3:07:28
school? Well, he repeated 9th grade for
3:07:31
a good minute but he ended up passing him through to 10th
3:07:35
grade, but that was the last of it.
3:07:38
But they only found record here when he's trying to go for GED
3:07:43
only for the 7th grade. So we would have to find a way
3:07:48
again, which is very possible, to be able to do so.
3:07:53
And you're willing to do whatever it takes to get him
3:07:55
back on track educationally? Yeah.
3:07:57
I mean, I have been, and I haven't let go yet.
3:08:01
I'm still here. And if the court sees fit to
3:08:03
grant him probation and puts your son in different programs
3:08:07
to try and assist him, will you all be able to transport him or
3:08:11
do whatever is necessary? So what I do for my kids,
3:08:16
though, and how many other children do you have?
3:08:17
I. Have 3.
3:08:19
And what are their ages? 554 and 16 months.
3:08:25
OK, we'll pass a witness stretch.
3:08:27
Hang on, I. Have a couple of questions for
3:08:30
your case. You stated that you live in
3:08:32
Gonzales County factors is that craft like the outspirts of it
3:08:36
OK and how long have you lived there going on six years.
3:08:39
So what year did you 2 thousand, 2022, 1022 or it's a month?
3:08:49
I don't, but I know the year is 2020.
3:08:51
OK. And so regarding your side, I
3:08:56
mean, he's 19 now, but this is not the first time that has been
3:08:59
reported, correct? Understood.
3:09:01
So he's been involved with the juvenile system since 2017,
3:09:05
you'd agree? With.
3:09:07
I don't know the year. But I do know that it's been a
3:09:09
while, OK? And so before you lived in the
3:09:13
OR in the outskirts of Gonzalez, were you living here in.
3:09:16
Oh, yeah. And was he living with you this
3:09:19
time? OK.
3:09:20
And so I guess my question to you is.
3:09:26
Back in 2017. And 2018.
3:09:28
And 2019. And 2020. 1.
3:09:33
Around 2022 and 2023, all of the years that he was involved in
3:09:36
the juvenile system, he was living with you up until, is
3:09:40
that correct? Probably before that.
3:09:45
I don't remember when, because I got in a major car accident and
3:09:49
I had to get searched at that end and then everything came
3:09:52
back. And so he was much.
3:09:54
Younger than. And.
3:09:57
He was still picking up charges under your supervision.
3:10:00
Is that fair to stay? I was not I.
3:10:03
Wouldn't say I was the best to the fullest like I am now.
3:10:07
I'm a lot more mature. I've grown up a lot more since I
3:10:11
was AS. A young mom, too.
3:10:15
And at the same time he was a lot immature himself.
3:10:18
But you still need still growing up and maturity wise on that
3:10:23
specific end. So and then through to the and
3:10:27
then at the same. Oh yes, ma'am.
3:10:29
And so. During the time when he was
3:10:33
involved in the juvenile system, he was also ingesting illegal
3:10:37
substances. Were you aware of that?
3:10:39
No. OK.
3:10:40
And he's living with you during this time.
3:10:42
He do do some runaways. So I mean, I would have to do
3:10:46
those things too on that end to foot.
3:10:49
Reports. And so I guess my question to
3:10:53
you is, what's going to be different now before when he was
3:10:57
involved in the juvenile system and under your supervision,
3:10:59
still committing crimes. But if I'm understanding you
3:11:01
correctly, if you're saying that you're more mature now, I'm a
3:11:05
lot more mature. I have got on my side.
3:11:07
That's one, I know I'll succeed with my side, though, that'll be
3:11:11
#1 And then two, I have mature. I have a husband that's he's
3:11:18
kind of strong and I stand right beside him.
3:11:21
And as a. As a whole.
3:11:23
We succeed with our children and we have moved our environment
3:11:26
from a quiet place. Peace.
3:11:30
It's a. Whole different ballpark from
3:11:33
living in this city over here to over there.
3:11:37
And you're aware that your son was on probation for the
3:11:40
offensive evading arrest and detention with the vehicle,
3:11:43
which is a felony offense, is not Curtis or are you aware of
3:11:46
that? I don't remember the year, but
3:11:50
you know that he's on felony probation right now.
3:11:54
You know that I'm not too great with the law too much, but I
3:11:59
know he's been in trouble most of the time.
3:12:01
OK. So he's on felony probation,
3:12:05
which means that he's gone before this court and entered A
3:12:08
plea, and this court put in place different programs for him
3:12:12
to abide by. Yes, ma'am.
3:12:14
OK. And he has not done that.
3:12:15
Are you aware of that? Yes, ma'am.
3:12:17
OK, because he went out and committed an aggravated robbery
3:12:20
times 2. You're aware, right?
3:12:21
Not. Well now I know that it's been 2
3:12:24
aggravated robberies. Yes, ma'am.
3:12:25
OK. And.
3:12:27
So my question to you is, do you think that it's fair or do you
3:12:31
think that it's justice for somebody who's already on colony
3:12:34
probation that has shown this court that they have no
3:12:37
intention of complying with its rules?
3:12:40
Do you think that? It's fair for the the court to
3:12:42
give us probation for a second. Means.
3:12:47
That's where the judge, I mean, I can't give that answer because
3:12:50
I mean, right, because I'm not the judge to say so, but I can
3:12:55
say I'm there for my son. OK, that's fair.
3:12:57
Thank you. No further questions, Chair,
3:13:00
Thank you so much for giving me some insight into your son.
3:13:04
All right, call your next witness.
3:13:05
We will call Mr. Mcgaha. All right friends, I wasn't
3:13:16
intending on doing 4th hour content, but we stumbled into
3:13:19
this. Assuming it doesn't drag on
3:13:23
forever, we'll see it through. Did you raise your hand for me?
3:13:25
Please? Do you somebody swear and affirm
3:13:27
The testimony you give will be the truth and nothing but the
3:13:29
truth so help you God? All right, you can lower your
3:13:32
hand. Make sure you keep your voice up
3:13:33
so I can hear and the court reporter can hear if you'll
3:13:36
state your name for the record. Stevens Mcgaha.
3:13:39
All right, Defense, you may proceed.
3:13:40
Mr. Mcgaha, How are you related to Adrian Isaac Hernandez?
3:13:44
I'm with step dad, but I've been in his life since he was around
3:13:48
2. OK.
3:13:50
And just to cut to the chase, Mr. Mcgaha, you know that we are
3:13:54
here because he has picked up some felony offenses and he has
3:13:58
a motion to revoke his felony probation, correct?
3:14:00
Yes, ma'am. OK.
3:14:01
So the question before the court is what is going to be different
3:14:04
this time if the court would to give him probation and put him
3:14:07
on deferred adjudication? What can you?
3:14:10
Assure this court that's going to be different this time to
3:14:12
keep him out of trouble. Well, he's come back home and I
3:14:16
run a very, very strong household and and he has
3:14:19
completed probation when he was staying with us too.
3:14:23
And when he did do that, he he was living with us.
3:14:27
OK, So you're talking about some of the priors that he's had.
3:14:29
Yes, ma'am. OK.
3:14:30
And the court has a whole list of those.
3:14:32
And a number of those were dismissed or rejected, correct?
3:14:35
Yes, ma'am. And did he complete a couple of
3:14:38
deferred adjudication probations under your watch?
3:14:40
Yes, ma'am. OK.
3:14:41
And are you willing to do whatever it takes to keep him on
3:14:45
the straight and narrow should the court grant him one more
3:14:48
opportunity to try and behave on one of her probations?
3:14:52
Yes, ma'am. OK.
3:14:53
Is there anything that you would like to tell the court that you
3:14:56
know is going to be different this time to in to guarantee or
3:15:00
for the court that that he's going to be able to be
3:15:02
successful? I mean, he has been successful
3:15:05
with me because I do see him because that is my son.
3:15:09
So he does this team a lot and, and like I said before, when he
3:15:15
was staying with us and with me, he did, he had a couple of
3:15:23
little hiccups, but, but. He was very, very.
3:15:26
Successful when he was at home, so when he.
3:15:31
If he does. Come out, then he'll be coming
3:15:33
home because I've run a very, very tight ship, especially
3:15:37
with. All of my kids.
3:15:38
What kind of work do you do, Mr. McGraw High?
3:15:40
I am a farm home. OK.
3:15:42
And would you be able to get Adrian some work?
3:15:45
Yes, ma'am, I would. And would you be able to make
3:15:48
sure that he makes all of his appointments and that he gets
3:15:50
back on track? Educational.
3:15:52
Yes, ma'am. And then on top of that, I'm
3:15:54
getting my wife her own vehicle upcoming soon.
3:15:57
So she'll be having that. And then I'll be having my
3:16:00
truck. So.
3:16:01
And then I'll have my work truck, too.
3:16:03
OK. Is there anything else you want
3:16:05
to tell the court? My son, when he is home, he is
3:16:10
very, very successful, especially when I am there.
3:16:14
I am very, very stern with him. You can even ask him.
3:16:19
He listens to me a lot lot more because I guess I had just have
3:16:24
that dad figure for him, that fucking figure and I really do
3:16:30
want my son. If he comes home, I guarantee he
3:16:36
will more 90% almost 100% that he will be successful.
3:16:43
We'll pass witness all right state yes Sir.
3:16:47
So. You've been in.
3:16:52
The defendant's wife since he's two years old.
3:16:54
It's about your testimony. Yes, ma'am.
3:16:56
OK. And so your wife is the
3:16:59
individual that testified before you got home and she testified
3:17:03
that you all lived here in San Antonio, TX until year twenty
3:17:07
20th. Is that accurate?
3:17:09
And so that both of you and her moved to the outskirts of the
3:17:12
LS. Yes, ma'am.
3:17:14
And then we purchase our own property.
3:17:16
OK. And that's where you're living
3:17:18
the store, correct? Yeah.
3:17:21
And so I guess my question is, why was the defendant not?
3:17:25
Working with you at this. Time not when he wasn't living
3:17:29
with us. Why was why was?
3:17:32
Why didn't he go with you in 2020?
3:17:34
In a 2020. Is it was like a big old thing
3:17:39
that that just happened and incident that happened at the
3:17:44
house. So I had to move my family out
3:17:48
and if my friends stay with his grandma.
3:17:51
If I'm not. Mistaken.
3:17:53
And then he did stay with us a couple more times after that.
3:17:58
And then when he was staying with us, he was, he was in
3:18:02
school, he had everything done and everything was good.
3:18:07
And then. My son.
3:18:10
Is he he? Almost had it.
3:18:16
Completed and then when he turned 18 I do believe that's
3:18:21
when he only moved to a San Antonio OK so when he turned 18
3:18:26
then he moved out from a few in the fall and returned back.
3:18:30
Yes ma'am. And so it's your testimony that
3:18:34
you know he's been respectful at the time and you.
3:18:39
Described. The problems that he's had as.
3:18:42
Pickups. But you would.
3:18:44
Agree with me that there's some pretty big hiccups right?
3:18:47
I have 3 ticket tips too. OK, that's not what I'm at.
3:18:51
You think that it's a bit? Would you?
3:18:53
Describe it just as a hiccup and aggravated robbery where he
3:18:56
knows that his friends have guns and they're stealing property
3:18:59
from people on that end. Ma'am, I do not know.
3:19:03
I do not know 'cause I was not there.
3:19:05
I'm asking you SO on question. You think?
3:19:10
Got him acting along with his Co defendants.
3:19:12
If he see if his Co defendant has a gun and they're pointing
3:19:16
it at an innocent civilian and taking that civilian's property,
3:19:19
do you think that is a big hiccup or a little hiccup?
3:19:22
I couldn't even see my son doing that in the 1st place.
3:19:25
Listen to the question. That is the the fact that I
3:19:29
described to you. Is that a big or little hiccup
3:19:33
on that end? I do not know ma'am.
3:19:35
Is it a big or little hiccup? I was not with him.
3:19:39
The facts that I'm describing to you if somebody pointed.
3:19:42
And say this. And took your property.
3:19:46
I cannot say. That.
3:19:47
I cannot say he bitter did not 'cause he was not with me ask
3:19:51
him argumentative or excuse me. So just listen to the question
3:19:57
and answer the question. OK.
3:20:00
All right. You can ask your question facts
3:20:02
that I described to you hypothetically if somebody.
3:20:07
Crafted along with another Co defendant and one Co defendant
3:20:11
had a firearm and pointed it at an innocent civilian and the
3:20:16
other person started taking that civilian's property.
3:20:19
Would you describe that as a big or little hiccup?
3:20:23
I would call that as a big. Different case number.
3:20:25
We possibly we have nothing further.
3:20:29
All right, Sir, thank you for giving me some insight into your
3:20:32
stepson. I appreciate you coming in to
3:20:35
testify. All right, thank you.
3:20:37
Call your next witness. We have no further witnesses.
3:20:39
All right. And did you want to say anything
3:20:43
to the court or do you want to just rely on your letter just?
3:20:48
Want to say this? Well, here's the thing.
3:20:50
If you want to say something to me, then I'll have to swear you
3:20:53
in and the state will get a chance to ask, ask you
3:20:56
questions. Sorry.
3:21:02
All right. Can you raise your right hand?
3:21:04
Do you solemnly swear? Affirm.
3:21:05
The testimony you give will be the truth and nothing but the
3:21:08
truth, so help you God? All right, you can lower your
3:21:10
hand. State your name for the record.
3:21:11
Is your Hernandez? All right.
3:21:13
And before he begins talking, did you want to confer with him
3:21:15
a little bit about whether he wants to say something to the
3:21:17
court or not? Yeah, I could, just briefly.
3:21:41
Want to do that? OK, but he'd rather just rely on
3:21:44
the letter that he gave the court.
3:21:46
All right, then let me call this cause number because I see that
3:21:50
there were not pleased entered and it's the motion to revoke.
3:21:54
All right, the court is calling 2024 CR 007176.
3:21:59
Mr. Hernandez, I'm going to show you what's entitled the motion
3:22:03
to revoke community supervision. Did you review that with your
3:22:06
attorney? Did you understand it?
3:22:11
Yes, ma'am. Are you the same Adrian Isaac
3:22:14
Hernandez who was placed on community supervision in 2024?
3:22:18
CR 007176 for the offensive, evading arrest or detention with
3:22:23
a vehicle on August 5th, 2000, 2020 4 for a term of eight
3:22:28
years. Is that you all right?
3:22:31
State, you may proceed Violation of condition #4 In Bear County,
3:22:37
Texas, the defendant Adrian Isaac Hernandez did then and
3:22:41
there failed to report to the supervision officer as directed
3:22:45
for the month of May at 2025. In violation of positions, of
3:22:50
course. How do you plead to that?
3:22:51
True or not true? True.
3:22:54
We'll wave the gun and any objections to the waivers.
3:22:58
No objections, which I understand by pleading through
3:23:02
the violation of condition #4 the court could find it true.
3:23:05
Grant the motion and sentence you up to six years in the
3:23:08
prison knowing that you still wish to plead.
3:23:11
True to violation of condition #4 Court will find violation of
3:23:15
condition number four true. Is there a proposed agreement
3:23:19
with regards to that motion? There's the revocation and all
3:23:28
right and defense the the court will with regards to that.
3:23:34
I'm assuming you want him continued, correct, Judge, we'd
3:23:36
like it to run all concurrent with what his new offenses are.
3:23:40
All right. And then state, since you're
3:23:41
opposed, I'll hear your argument and then defense, I'll hear your
3:23:45
argument for the cases that he's here to be sentenced on as well
3:23:50
as the motion to revoke. I think it'll flow smoother with
3:23:53
that. All right, State judge.
3:23:55
So we are asking that you deny all of his applications and
3:23:59
sentence time to 12 years in prison and the aggravated
3:24:03
robbery cases and then five years in the prison on the
3:24:06
collision case. Your Honor, I do appreciate
3:24:11
reviewing the PFI that this defendant did somewhat take
3:24:14
responsibility for his action and he did an intern to the and
3:24:19
his role was taken into account in the the bargain.
3:24:24
That's why he's given the top 12 oppose because he took
3:24:26
responsibility and because he's not the person that had the fire
3:24:31
and the evidence that was stipulated through these acting
3:24:34
with two Co defendants. And they were engaging in
3:24:40
burglary vehicles and local businesses in San Antonio over
3:24:44
on the far West side. And basically they were going
3:24:48
and pulling door handles and seeing what they could get into.
3:24:51
And an uninvolved innocent bystander tells him to hey knock
3:24:55
it off and his Co defendant points a gun in that person's
3:24:58
face and tells him to get the fuck out of here while he is
3:25:02
receiving property from the other Co defendant.
3:25:05
Your honor, he's already on felony probation and this court
3:25:09
has given him an opportunity to rehabilitate himself and be a
3:25:14
productive member of society. And he has failed to do that.
3:25:17
And if support were to grant his application, he would fail to do
3:25:21
it again based on. And then also in the.
3:25:24
Collision case he's dragging recklessly crashes into somebody
3:25:28
causes him an injury and then he doesn't turn himself in for any
3:25:32
of this as if he has to go and get him out of his house.
3:25:35
He's so he can take responsibility in that regard.
3:25:39
But in the PSI he did, which I appreciate, but we are asking he
3:25:43
would deny his applications and sentence him to all right judge.
3:25:49
I think that the state has actually hit the nail on the
3:25:52
head. He is extremely remorseful and I
3:25:55
think that the court can see that in the PSI, which is kind
3:25:58
of unusual. You don't really see that level
3:25:59
of remorse or taking responsibility for actions in,
3:26:04
in my experience anyway, in these PS is I think this has
3:26:08
been a tremendous wake up call. I think that the family has
3:26:12
rallied and is stepping up to take some responsibility to make
3:26:17
sure that he can stay on the path.
3:26:19
He is definitely gotten off the path.
3:26:22
There were definitely people that were were hurt as a result
3:26:25
of his actions and he is very sorry for that.
3:26:28
I think that he has had a bad time in jail and I think that
3:26:32
this has shown him that he cannot go down this path, that
3:26:37
he cannot be with these types of people.
3:26:39
That he needs to live in his Smiley, Texas, with a population
3:26:43
of 500 and get his GED and go to classes and get a trade and go
3:26:50
to work and stay on the straight and narrow.
3:26:53
And I think he needs his dad, who appears to be a very strong
3:26:57
father figure, to be in his life and to keep him on the straight
3:27:01
and narrow and make him a productive citizen.
3:27:03
And then I know the court will have a number of programs and
3:27:07
things to assist him with that. And I think that he is receptive
3:27:11
to all of that. And so we are asking the court
3:27:14
to grant his deferred adjudication and to run it
3:27:17
concurrently and to keep him on probation in his evading case.
3:27:24
And in the alternative judge, then we're asking for the lowest
3:27:27
possible sentence that the court could deliver.
3:27:31
All right, Mr. Hernandez, I want you to know that I've heard all
3:27:34
of the testimony. I've internalized everything
3:27:36
that has been said. I just don't think that you're a
3:27:41
good candidate for probation. So in cause number 2024 CR
3:27:46
007176, the court will revoke. The court is finding for true.
3:27:52
The court will sentence you to six years in the prison, give
3:27:55
you credit for any time served. There's to be no contact with
3:27:58
Gustavo Perez. This is the rank concurrent with
3:28:01
2025 CR 0110202025. CR 011311 C 2025.
3:28:11
CR 011309 AI requested the therapeutic community and
3:28:17
there's to be no residing with minors.
3:28:20
Did you review the document in that case entitled trial court
3:28:22
certification of defendants rights to appeal with your
3:28:25
attorney? Did you understand it and sign
3:28:27
it? Yes, ma'am, you do have a
3:28:30
limited right to appeal in that cause number based upon the
3:28:33
allegations in the motion, not the fact that you were on
3:28:36
community supervision. Because this is a felony
3:28:39
conviction, you're not allowed to own or possess any weapons or
3:28:42
ammunition. If you have a question over what
3:28:44
that is, you'll need to speak to an attorney and cause #2025 CR
3:28:49
011309. A court is going to deny your
3:28:59
motion. Court will find you guilty.
3:29:07
There's an affirmative finding of deadly weapon.
3:29:09
There's a $2000 fine. Time and money will run
3:29:13
concurrently. This is the run concurrent with
3:29:24
2024 CR 0071762025 CR 0110202025 CR 011309 a. 2025 CR 011311 C
3:29:51
Taking consideration 2025 CR 0133 I'm sorry. 2025 CR 0113010
3:30:05
C and 2025 CC 009777 There's an affirmative finding of deadly
3:30:13
weapon. Court will sentence you to 12
3:30:18
years in the prison, give you credit for any time served,
3:30:27
restitution if any, to Shamari Moore.
3:30:40
There. Should be no contact with
3:30:59
Lincoln Gage Martins. I'm sorry merchants.
3:31:06
Oscar Carvajal Junior Is there anything else with regards to
3:31:14
sentencing under that cause number?
3:31:17
No, I don't believe so. And that cause number, did you
3:31:21
review the trial court certification of defendants
3:31:23
rights to appeal with your attorney?
3:31:25
Did you understand it and did you sign it?
3:31:27
Yes, ma'am, Right, because this is plea bargain agreement,
3:31:30
because I followed your plea bargain agreement, and because
3:31:33
you waive your right to appeal, you do not have the court's
3:31:36
permission to appeal. Because this is a felony
3:31:38
conviction, you're not allowed to own or possess any weapons or
3:31:41
ammunition. If you have a question over what
3:31:43
that is, you'll need to speak to an attorney and cause #2025 CR
3:31:48
011311 C The court is finding you guilty.
3:31:54
The court will sentence you to 12 years in the prison, give you
3:31:58
credit for any time served. There's an affirmative finding
3:32:01
of deadly weapon. It's wrong.
3:32:04
Current with 2024 CR 0071762025, CR 0110202025 CR 011309 A, 2025
3:32:18
CR 011311 C Taking consideration 2025 CR 0 11310 C and 2025 CC
3:32:30
009777. There's to be restitution, if
3:32:39
any, to Paul Hike. Court will recommend the
3:32:49
therapeutic community. And there's to be no contact
3:33:16
with Lincoln gauge merchants and that cost number.
3:33:25
Is there anything else with regards to sentencing?
3:33:29
I'm sorry, there is an affirmative finding of deadly
3:33:31
weapon. Just the other.
3:33:34
Thing is that we've asked for a misconceptor with the other
3:33:37
codependent, which is Oscar Carva Hall.
3:33:40
All right, and no contact with Oscar Harva Hall and no residing
3:33:53
in households with minors. For final note, no.
3:34:17
And that constant, I'm just you review the document entitled
3:34:19
trial Court certification of defendants rights to appeal with
3:34:22
your attorney. Did you understand it and sign
3:34:25
it? All right.
3:34:26
Because it's a plea bargain agreement, Because I followed
3:34:28
your plea bargain agreement, because you waive your right to
3:34:31
appeal, you do not have the court's permission to appeal.
3:34:34
Because this is a felony conviction.
3:34:35
You're not allowed to own or possess any weapons or
3:34:38
ammunition. If you have a question over what
3:34:40
that is, you'll need to speak to an attorney and cause #2025 CR
3:34:45
011020. Court will find you guilty.
3:34:58
Court was sentenced you to five years in the prison.
3:35:02
Give you credit for any time served.
3:35:05
There's a $2000 fine that will be probated.
3:35:09
This will run concurrent with 2024 CR 0071762025, CR
3:35:17
0110202025 CR 011309 a. 2025 CR 011311 C taking consideration.
3:35:30
2025 CR 011310 C 2025 CC 009777 There's to be no contact with
3:35:43
Lincoln Gage, I'm sorry, Lincoln Gage Mertens and Oscar Carvajal.
3:35:59
There's to be restitution, if any, to Mia Aleman and Sandra
3:36:07
Marin and the court will recommend the therapeutic
3:36:11
community. No residing in households with
3:36:14
minors. All
3:36:28
right, Did you review the document entitled Trial Court
3:36:30
certification of Defendants rights to appeal with your
3:36:33
attorney? Did you understand it and sign
3:36:34
it? All right, because this is a
3:36:36
plea bargain agreement, because I followed your plea bargain
3:36:38
agreement and because you waived your right to appeal, you do not
3:36:41
have the court's permission to appeal.
3:36:43
Because this is a felony conviction, you're not allowed
3:36:45
to own or possess any weapons or ammunition.
3:36:47
If you have a question over what that is, you need to speak to an
3:36:50
attorney. Do you understand?
3:36:52
All right, we can go off the record.
3:36:53
Here's the thing. I know it's a lot of time and
3:36:54
you're very young. When you go to prison, do not
3:36:58
become institutionalized. Go there.
3:37:00
Keep your head down. Try to get your degree.
3:37:03
I will tell you, I've had clients before, and the best
3:37:06
certification you can get, it may have changed, is welding,
3:37:11
because with welding, they get paid a lot of money.
3:37:13
It'll be something that you'll be able to support yourself on.
3:37:16
OK. All right, Good luck to you.
3:37:18
Thank you, Judge. No, we'll be exposed to.
3:37:20
I need the. All right, friends, I do need to
3:37:24
fly, but hopefully he serves his time well and gets his stuff
3:37:28
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