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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, November 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. There's staff the place,
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Speaker 1: morning to you. Welcome in the Jags Drive Time. Wednesday's
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Speaker 1: the difference. How are you guys doing? Great? Sweater weather?
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Speaker 1: You went home sick yesterday? How I feel it? I
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Speaker 1: feel much better today. I watched six straight episodes of Nashville.
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Speaker 1: Took a nap, tilent all flu medicine, and I'm back
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Speaker 1: and ready to rumble. Nashville. Is that a television show?
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Speaker 1: It is on CMT. It's one thing. It's the one
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Speaker 1: with the girl. Remember the Titans, right, yes, Hayden pants here?
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Speaker 1: How she was? She was the daughter? And remember the Titans.
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Speaker 1: Now she's all grown up. Wow, I didn't know that
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Speaker 1: that was me and my sens favorite movie. That is
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite about me. One is sick. I
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Speaker 1: hope he didn't ask. You know, I'm much better. I'm
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Speaker 1: not contagious. My roommate is a p A and she said,
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Speaker 1: you're good to go back to work, and I said,
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Speaker 1: that's all I need. Good. Ready for big things the show.
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Speaker 1: We're doing something a little different. We're doing three big
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Speaker 1: players in the second half of the season that you
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Speaker 1: guys should pay attention to. Obviously, Number one is not
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles. It's Leonard four Nets. Can the Jags get
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Speaker 1: him involved and keep him involved? They didn't in Houston.
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Speaker 1: We saw the problem that caused for the offense. As
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Speaker 1: right now the Jags have the seventh best run attack
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Speaker 1: in the league. Can they get him more involved in
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Speaker 1: the second half of the season. They're going to have to.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too, is Nick Foles the eight million dollar
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Speaker 1: arm is back. What can we expect the change in
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Speaker 1: the offense to look like? Especially we haven't talked about
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Speaker 1: this the change for John d Filippo offensive coordinator. How
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Speaker 1: much has that impact his job? This week? Big thing
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Speaker 1: three a j boy A. He did a good job
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Speaker 1: against DeAndre Hopkins against the Texans this week, t Y Hilton,
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Speaker 1: if he returns, the job for him is very important
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Speaker 1: the second half of the season. He's running the secondary.
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Speaker 1: All eyes are on him on the defense. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: would Uh, I would also include Miles Jack in that.
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Speaker 1: I think the key, as much as the ability stopt
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Speaker 1: the pass is going to be the entire front seven's
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Speaker 1: ability to be more consistent against the run. But to me,
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Speaker 1: I know, Brian sort of on the Leonard for net
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Speaker 1: Train this week, Nick Foles to me, what John d
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Speaker 1: Filippo has a chance to do with Nick Foles. I
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Speaker 1: don't know yet how different it's gonna look. I think
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Speaker 1: what you might see is what the Jaguars were trying
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Speaker 1: to do in eight games and just look different. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure you're gonna see dramatically different play calls, but
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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see the execution of that
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Speaker 1: Crisper sharper um. I wish they had a tight ends.
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Speaker 1: They could really change things. We're now you're really getting
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Speaker 1: me fired up. Come on, I still think they should
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Speaker 1: have pulled the trigger and found one before the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: Let's pull back the curtain. The reason that John knows
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Speaker 1: that I'm on the Leonard for Net train is because
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Speaker 1: it's number one in my final analysis, which you already
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Speaker 1: have and quick thought, I didn't read that, and quick thoughts, um,
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Speaker 1: look you did. You saw it was right at the top.
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Speaker 1: Here's why he's number one. We talked about how much
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Speaker 1: of an opportunity he had with Nick Foles here, and
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Speaker 1: then Nick Foles went away and the rookie quarterback comes in,
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Speaker 1: and so what did teams do. They stacked the box.
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Speaker 1: They still had a safety near the line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 1: Stop Lenard for net and he has one rushing you
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Speaker 1: ar's the third most in the a f c UH
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Speaker 1: and almost twelve hundred yards from scrimmage, which is third
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He has been very productive with teams
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Speaker 1: still keyed in on him, and now he has a
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Speaker 1: chance with teams having to respect the big arm of
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles to see less than eight people in the box.
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Speaker 1: Now Nick's gonna have to go out and earn it
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Speaker 1: for him and complete some passes and make it happen.
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Speaker 1: But we saw early in London against Houston that Leonard
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Speaker 1: Fernette was not going to be a factor. They the
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Speaker 1: Texans were not going to let him get started. And
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Speaker 1: they didn't and he wasn't And so to me, his
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Speaker 1: opportunity is distinct, and the Jaguars opportunity to control the tempo,
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Speaker 1: to perhaps play with the lead, to rest the defense
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Speaker 1: is going to be on his shoulders. I said three
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Speaker 1: or four weeks ago, I thought he had a chance
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Speaker 1: to make a run at Maurice Jones Drew's single season
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Speaker 1: rushing record six yards. Well, that's because of the poor
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Speaker 1: numerical showing last week against uh against Houston. It's a
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Speaker 1: tall order in seven games, um, but he can still
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Speaker 1: get there. It's but a hundred and twenty little less
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Speaker 1: than that yards per game from Leonard four Nett. A
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Speaker 1: couple of big games here, a couple of good games there,
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Speaker 1: he could chase it. I think he's the storyline in
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Speaker 1: the second half of the season, though I know everyone
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Speaker 1: else is focused on the quarterback. Well, I think the
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Speaker 1: key with for Net is he can get to where
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Speaker 1: you're talking about if the offensive line is more consistent
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Speaker 1: in front of him. And I want to say consistent.
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Speaker 1: A lot of Leonard's yards this year. Um, if if
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Speaker 1: you took away his big runs, which I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: you do, because they're credit to him, but they have
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Speaker 1: been on huge chunk plays. To me, where the running
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Speaker 1: game needs to be improved in the second half of
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Speaker 1: the season is more four yard gains, more five yard
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Speaker 1: gains and not as dependent on the sixty six yard
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Speaker 1: or the thirty seven yard or the burst play that
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Speaker 1: he's perfectly capable of. Uh, it's on the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: They haven't run blocked as well as this, as the
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Speaker 1: stats show, and that is particularly telling inside the red zone.
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Speaker 1: We didn't mention red zone. Red zone running might be
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Speaker 1: up there if if you were listing five, that would
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Speaker 1: be in the top five. Couple more thoughts, Um, he
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Speaker 1: has only scored one touchdown. And remember this is what
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Speaker 1: the guy does. He has a nose for the ends
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Speaker 1: of the struggled. They've gotta they've gotta get better guard play.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're rotating right for Nett didn't forget how
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Speaker 1: to get into the end. Oh no, no, no barking
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Speaker 1: up front, No Andrew nor Well to me, has been
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Speaker 1: a huge disappointment. Um. And the guys on the other side,
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Speaker 1: neither a j Can nor Will Richardson have been able
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Speaker 1: to distinguish themselves, which is why they're still rotating in there. Um,
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Speaker 1: at the top of my list for where this team
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Speaker 1: has to get better in the off season next year
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Speaker 1: is to find guards, to get guys who can get
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Speaker 1: that push off the line of scrimmage. And I'm sure,
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Speaker 1: but Sally could come in here and Doug Moron could
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Speaker 1: come in here and tell me what they're doing well.
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Speaker 1: But my eyes tell me that there's no push other
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Speaker 1: than Brandon Linda in the middle of the field. So
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Speaker 1: forget about trying to convince me that it's any better
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Speaker 1: than it really is. Um, here's the the amazing thing
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Speaker 1: about four net. He hasn't even been on the injury record.
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Speaker 1: He's not missed practice. And I have been the one
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Speaker 1: who has beaten the table and said this guy will
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Speaker 1: not be able to play sixteen games in his career
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Speaker 1: because of his overly physical style of running. Right now, look,
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Speaker 1: there's still seven games and all it takes is, you know,
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Speaker 1: one guy landing at his ankle to change that. But
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Speaker 1: it's been amazing that he hasn't even been on the
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Speaker 1: report yet. So he's healthy, he's got his quarterback back,
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Speaker 1: he's motivated, it's important to him. Um, he's had a
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Speaker 1: he's been a tremendous story. This season. When we go
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Speaker 1: back and talk about twenty nineteen, we're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: him and his transformation from the end of the eighteen season.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the nineteen season, if this is
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Speaker 1: going to be a playoff team, I say we'll be
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Speaker 1: leading the way. And I think you have to credit
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Speaker 1: him not being on the injury report. That goes to
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Speaker 1: his change and running style this year, because we've talked
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Speaker 1: about normally he would lower his shoulder and take the hit.
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Speaker 1: He's been much smarter about getting off the field when
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Speaker 1: he needs to. We didn't see that last year. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he has to a degree. I think he is doing
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Shellann smarter and he has in
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Speaker 1: the past. I don't think he can be effective just
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Speaker 1: stepping out of bounds. He's not a guy who can
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Speaker 1: be effective thinking he's always gonna make people miss. But
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Speaker 1: he has become, in my opinion, a smarter running back.
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Speaker 1: You have to know when the play is over, but
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Speaker 1: you have to know when to fold him and know
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Speaker 1: when to hold him. And I know when to walk
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Speaker 1: away and know when to run. But that's from a
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Speaker 1: song called the Gambler by Kenny Rodgers. When I'm sitting
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Speaker 1: at the table. But um, he has done a better
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Speaker 1: job at times last year, I thought there were plays
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Speaker 1: they could have been there where he could have squeezed
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Speaker 1: two or three yards out of where he didn't and
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Speaker 1: tried to make people miss. I think he's become a
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Speaker 1: smarter running back in your three Well, you learn as
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Speaker 1: a running back you only have so many hits that
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Speaker 1: you can possibly take in your body, So why take
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Speaker 1: all of him before your first contract? And as a
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Speaker 1: senior writers coming for you. The the other guy that
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Speaker 1: we have to focus year is a. J Boye had
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Speaker 1: a conversation with Todd wash A couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: you know, just immediately after Jalen left and talked about
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Speaker 1: where boy A could get too, could he be that one?
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Speaker 1: And you know Todd was very complimentary. He wasn't going
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Speaker 1: to put him in Jalen's category, but he said he
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Speaker 1: could do it. The test though, wasn't against the Bengals
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Speaker 1: and the Jets. He said the test was gonna come
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Speaker 1: when we saw h DeAndre Hopkins, who he saw two
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, t Y Hilton, who I'm not sure we're
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Speaker 1: gonna see on Sunday and the next week. They've got
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Speaker 1: a nice tandem forming up in Nashville with Corey Davis
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Speaker 1: and uh is it A J. Brown, the kid from
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Speaker 1: Ole miss who was their second round draft. I I
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Speaker 1: haven't gotten too deep into them yet. This is the
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Speaker 1: stretch where the Jaguars need to win, and this is
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Speaker 1: the stretch where they need a J Boyer to win
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Speaker 1: his one on one matchups. So far, everything I see
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Speaker 1: from him in the locker room, on the practice field
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Speaker 1: is the a J. Boy A that we got here
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Speaker 1: when the Jaguar signed him in twenty seventeen. High energy
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Speaker 1: team later, good guy. Um, I'm interested. I think he's
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Speaker 1: one of the stories of the second half of the season. Also,
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Speaker 1: I go back um quickly. So when you guys are mentioning,
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Speaker 1: you know, even with Gardner Minshew in Leonard for not
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Speaker 1: they're loading the box. You have a safety coming up.
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Speaker 1: You said you have to respect the arm of Nick Foles,
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Speaker 1: But do you think teams are going to respect him
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Speaker 1: as much when they see the weapons he has? And
10:15
Speaker 1: we talked about the lack of a tight end and
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Speaker 1: a threat in the middle of the field. So yes,
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Speaker 1: it's Nick Foles and the weapon of the arm, but
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Speaker 1: how much are they actually going to respect that. I
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Speaker 1: think they're going to respect Shark. I think they gonna
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Speaker 1: respect con. I think they're gonna think they gonna respect
10:28
Speaker 1: the deep ball potential. I think to your point, though, Shelyn,
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Speaker 1: they have to establish something in the middle of the
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Speaker 1: field to get them to respect everything. I think that's
10:37
Speaker 1: going to be the key at the end. In the
10:40
Speaker 1: last three or four games a Gardner, they were able
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Speaker 1: to play double the wide receivers, single high and assume
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Speaker 1: that you weren't going to beat them in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the field. Now, I'm not sure where Nick is
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Speaker 1: going to be able to beat that without the weapons,
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Speaker 1: but you would think that a veteran quarterback has more
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Speaker 1: tools to do that. They have to get them to
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Speaker 1: respect that a little more. Go back to training camp.
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Speaker 1: Who was working in the middle of the field with
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Speaker 1: Nick Fooles, Dedi Westbrook. Deedie Westbrook will be that guy
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. Now that means Keelan
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Speaker 1: Cole is going to have to kick on either a
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Speaker 1: greater or a different role. I believe that Nick and
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Speaker 1: he'll have to make them earn it. He'll have to
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Speaker 1: back them off. But it isn't the deep ball, it's
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Speaker 1: the quick ball. It's him hitting the fifteen yard out.
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Speaker 1: It's him hitting guys on the steam route that Gardner
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Speaker 1: Minshew missed. It will be no problem for Nick Fooles
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Speaker 1: should he hit a couple of guys early on to
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Speaker 1: back him off the line. Script all right, and those
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Speaker 1: are big things, key players the second half of the season.
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Speaker 1: Very great? It's nineteen degrees here, and so you guys
13:53
Speaker 1: will have a nice welcome when you when you fly
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Speaker 1: in on Saturday. You know, is there any chance they
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Speaker 1: open the roof? Um, it's almost never open it. Actually
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Speaker 1: it's been open a couple of times this year. Um,
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Speaker 1: but I think there's a temperature threshold where it's just
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Speaker 1: like now, we're not doing that. So um, so I
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Speaker 1: can't imagine it will be. But that's kind of above
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Speaker 1: my page. Well, you know it's down here. It's just
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Speaker 1: turned cold and it was so hot and sticky last week. Uh,
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Speaker 1: we welcome the cold, and we don't welcome nineteen degrees. Well, look,
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Speaker 1: Andrew just told us the roof is most likely to
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Speaker 1: nineteen degrees. I hope it's South Florida. Andrew. Don't worry
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Speaker 1: about her at all. Don't worry about her at all. Hey.
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Speaker 1: The big story, as far as everyone down here is concerned,
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Speaker 1: is the quarterback Jacoby Brissette. This is an important day
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Speaker 1: for him and for the Colts offense, isn't it. Oh yeah, Um,
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Speaker 1: you know he goes down with the sprained mcl against
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Speaker 1: the Steelers early in the second quarter on really kind
14:55
Speaker 1: of unfortunate freak type play when quitt Nelson's pushed back
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Speaker 1: by Casey Hey word, who's can kind of slips up
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Speaker 1: the face mask and Quentin falls just right on Jacoby
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Speaker 1: Brissette's leg essentially, And um, and unfortunately it wasn't as
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Speaker 1: bad as it looked, um, you know, as far as
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Speaker 1: the MRI I test results and all that. Um. But
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Speaker 1: Brissette last week was able to practice all three days
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Speaker 1: and really got a majority of the reps. But um,
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Speaker 1: you know, Frank Wright looked at the tape on on Friday, um,
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Speaker 1: after practice and said, you know what, we've got a
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Speaker 1: quarterback here that but probably not quite as good as
15:32
Speaker 1: as as I want as far as mobility and all that.
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Speaker 1: So he decided Saturday morning to go with Brian Moyer
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Speaker 1: and um, you know Brian, you know, great veteran backup
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Speaker 1: and and serving his purpose. But um, you know, against
15:45
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, struggled a little bit as the whole team did,
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Speaker 1: really and um and of course they lost that game.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, today's today's the big day as far as
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Speaker 1: if Jacoby Brissette can go out there and practice and
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Speaker 1: Frank Riich said, he can be a old participant in practice.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to make any secret of it. We're
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Speaker 1: not going to delay it. He'll be our starter against
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Optimistic Are they optimistic up there that that
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Speaker 1: he'll be able to go after a couple more days
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Speaker 1: of breast, Well, Jacoby Brissette is for sure. And and
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Speaker 1: he said, you know, he said yesterday, you know, if
16:15
Speaker 1: it was up to me, I would have played. And
16:17
Speaker 1: and he wasn't saying that being defined of Frank like,
16:20
Speaker 1: he was just saying, I think Frank kind of saved
16:22
Speaker 1: me for myself. That's kind of his job. Because Jacoby
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Speaker 1: Brissette is one of the toughest players I've ever seen. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, you guys clearly probably remember that game in
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Speaker 1: Andy where he took ten sacks and and was beat
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Speaker 1: up the whole day and he got up after every
16:38
Speaker 1: single one of them. So um, so he's he's a
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Speaker 1: real tough guy, and he's a guy that wants to
16:42
Speaker 1: play no matter what. UM. But Frank Wright made the decision,
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Speaker 1: and Jacoby said he he respects that. UM. But he
16:48
Speaker 1: does feel a lot better and and he's hoping to
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Speaker 1: uh be able to play on Sunday Andrey the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: haven't seen this team, uh since lux retirement, when Brissette's right,
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Speaker 1: when his health. What is the difference between this year's
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Speaker 1: offense and the offense we saw with Luck. Yeah, it's
17:05
Speaker 1: more of an effort to run the ball and say that,
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Speaker 1: and of course the Jaguars are kind of built that way, right,
17:12
Speaker 1: you know that, you know, you bring poles in obviously
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Speaker 1: to to help with the air attack, but when you
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Speaker 1: have four net you have a guy back there that's
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Speaker 1: always a threat to run the ball, control the clock,
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Speaker 1: let your defense, you know, kind of take the the
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Speaker 1: you know, to get your defense in there and and
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Speaker 1: finish the job. That's what this Colts team kind of
17:29
Speaker 1: wants to do um with Jacoby Brissette. Now, Jacobe has
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Speaker 1: shown that he can he can get it done in
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Speaker 1: the air. He did that against the Texans and just
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Speaker 1: thrash their defense and one a f C Offensive Player
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Speaker 1: of the Week. And then they've also been very good
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Speaker 1: in the run game. Now that was before these last
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Speaker 1: couple of games against the Steelers and the Dolphins. Of course,
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Speaker 1: with Brian Hoyer. Brian Horror actually a really good job
17:50
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. Um, but you know it's it's more
17:54
Speaker 1: of an effort to run the game, run the ball,
17:56
Speaker 1: uh this year than maybe last year. Um. And you know,
18:00
Speaker 1: the goals, top seven, top five rushing attack, and Frank
18:03
Speaker 1: Reich says, the numbers, the analytics kind of show if
18:06
Speaker 1: you can be in that area, you're gonna be among
18:08
Speaker 1: one of the top playoff teams in the league. Going
18:12
Speaker 1: back to that loss to the Dolphins, how much of
18:14
Speaker 1: that was Jacoby burst and t Y Hilton being out
18:18
Speaker 1: of the lineup and how much of that was just
18:19
Speaker 1: the Dolphins beating the Colts. Well, you know, to be fair,
18:23
Speaker 1: the Dolphins had a lot of people out too. I mean,
18:27
Speaker 1: if you just talk since the start of the year,
18:29
Speaker 1: think of how many pieces the Dolphins front office has
18:32
Speaker 1: either shipped away or has been hurt um by they
18:35
Speaker 1: I mean, they just lost Preston Williams there, the wide receiver. Um.
18:39
Speaker 1: You know, uh, they're running back had just been suspended
18:42
Speaker 1: just before the Colts game. So, you know, to be
18:44
Speaker 1: completely fair to the Dolphins, they came out and execute
18:48
Speaker 1: a game plan and did a really good job, especially defensively,
18:52
Speaker 1: and won. They won the ball game fair and squares
18:55
Speaker 1: so Um, you know, to me, that's you know, that's
18:58
Speaker 1: that's just a sign of a team right now in
19:00
Speaker 1: the Colts that are they're trying to figure things out
19:02
Speaker 1: on offense. I think the last couple of weeks they're
19:04
Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out. Figure out you know,
19:07
Speaker 1: this offensive line that's really good for the Colts. For
19:09
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it's been a little leaky at times
19:12
Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks. And they've just got
19:13
Speaker 1: a couple of things that need to figure out. And
19:15
Speaker 1: I think once they do, they'll get back to playing
19:17
Speaker 1: really sound offense. But I'll tell you this Colts defense
19:20
Speaker 1: the last months months and a half, especially since that
19:23
Speaker 1: that game again into the Chiefs in Kansas City on
19:25
Speaker 1: Sunday night, football has really put it together. You know,
19:28
Speaker 1: they're now a top ten unit in terms of yards allowed. Um.
19:32
Speaker 1: You know, justin Houston has been a great addition. Seven sacks,
19:35
Speaker 1: the sacking five straight games. Um, so you know him
19:38
Speaker 1: with Jabal Shared and then of course Darius Leonard in
19:41
Speaker 1: the middle. Um, you've got a lot of young corners
19:43
Speaker 1: and and safety is doing their job. The defense has
19:46
Speaker 1: been doing really well and that's been a good sign.
19:48
Speaker 1: And I think it's only a matter of time before
19:50
Speaker 1: this offense and the offensive line starts clicking again. Andrew,
19:54
Speaker 1: this is a really big game for the Jaguars. Uh,
19:56
Speaker 1: you know, they hope to get to a point when
19:59
Speaker 1: they got it falls back that they would be able
20:02
Speaker 1: to stay in the playoff race. Sunday is that opportunity.
20:06
Speaker 1: If they don't win on Sunday, it gets epically more
20:09
Speaker 1: difficult for them to be able to find a way
20:11
Speaker 1: to do it. So it is a huge game for
20:13
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. How big a game is it for the
20:16
Speaker 1: Colts from the perspective of Indianapolis. I mean, it's it's vassive, uh,
20:21
Speaker 1: you know, to be at least because and and you know,
20:24
Speaker 1: here here's why you've got maybe about as ticked off
20:27
Speaker 1: a team as you can have. I don't think the
20:29
Speaker 1: Jaguars um and they probably realize that, but like this
20:33
Speaker 1: Colts team's really really ticked off at the way you know,
20:36
Speaker 1: and they can only be ticked off at themselves at
20:38
Speaker 1: the way they've played the last couple of weeks, particularly
20:40
Speaker 1: on offense, and then of course the special teams issues.
20:43
Speaker 1: So um, you know, you can you know, you can
20:45
Speaker 1: only be mad at yourself for that, but I think
20:48
Speaker 1: they want to take it out on the Jaguars, and
20:50
Speaker 1: of course that's easier said than done, um with the
20:52
Speaker 1: way that Jaguar has been playing of light just um,
20:55
Speaker 1: you know. And then you add on top of that,
20:57
Speaker 1: Nick Foles coming back and you saw it not glimpse
21:00
Speaker 1: of what he'd be able to do, um until he
21:03
Speaker 1: got hurt unfortunately in that first game. So um. So yeah.
21:06
Speaker 1: So it's it's such a tough task for the Colts,
21:09
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Jaguars feel the same way. So
21:11
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see which kind of mindset as far
21:14
Speaker 1: as not quite desperations from the Jaguars, but you know
21:17
Speaker 1: the importance of the game for the Jaguars versus just
21:20
Speaker 1: the magnitude of the game for the Colts, and how
21:22
Speaker 1: kind of ticked off they're gonna be heading into this one.
21:24
Speaker 1: I'm interested interested to see how that dynamic plays out.
21:28
Speaker 1: Andrew should be fun on Sunday. And as I mentioned
21:31
Speaker 1: in the email, I I laugh at your tweets. You
21:34
Speaker 1: just you get a chuckle out of me. I just
21:36
Speaker 1: scrolling through there, I'm like, that is funny. You just well,
21:40
Speaker 1: whodos to you for your sense of timing my friends,
21:44
Speaker 1: so I don't try not to take it too serious.
21:47
Speaker 1: There's lots of people out there that I think Twitter
21:50
Speaker 1: is the most important thing in the world, and hey,
21:52
Speaker 1: that's what that's what they wake up for in the morning.
21:55
Speaker 1: That's great. But you know, I think someone out there
21:57
Speaker 1: and and I think we all do it to a degree,
21:59
Speaker 1: just there's you know, the fan bases for both teams
22:02
Speaker 1: are so great and so passionate, and then sometimes you
22:04
Speaker 1: just kept to kind of you know, reel it and
22:06
Speaker 1: a little bit and realize, hey, this is a fun game.
22:08
Speaker 1: It's it's the season. Let's let's have some fun here.
22:11
Speaker 1: And and that's kind of the approach I take. Well,
22:13
Speaker 1: I look at the schedule this weekend. I think this
22:14
Speaker 1: is the best game. To me, this should be a
22:16
Speaker 1: Sunday night game, a Markee game for what's on the
22:18
Speaker 1: line with these two teams. So thanks for taking time
22:20
Speaker 1: for us this morning. We'll see you on Sunday. Okay, guys,
22:23
Speaker 1: say travels. Appreciate it, Andrew, and thanks so much for
22:26
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Speaker 1: you see what Joe's doing here? Do you know? This
24:41
Speaker 1: is the theme song from what movie? I don't know? Cherious? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you got me there? You should look at up. It
24:49
Speaker 1: was inspiring though Joe. It fit the mood. Well done,
24:52
Speaker 1: he's on top of his game today. Don't mess with
24:54
Speaker 1: that man on Wednesday. See, oh, so my thing should
25:06
Speaker 1: be five. I think that you want to switch the
25:09
Speaker 1: song movie, come out with it. Come on, you expect
25:14
Speaker 1: you to know that I'm up to date on my
25:19
Speaker 1: academy oards. Did you ever see the original Rocky? I
25:24
Speaker 1: think that the first one? Your original? Yeah? Then yeah,
25:28
Speaker 1: I saw it. I'm up to date on my Rockies
25:30
Speaker 1: thanks to Geene Sullivan. That's his thing. Rocky came out
25:33
Speaker 1: in what seventy five? The original? So I mean this
25:35
Speaker 1: movie is a little more recent than that. We can
25:37
Speaker 1: blame my father. It's all his fault always. All right,
25:41
Speaker 1: let's go to Canada, shall we. I have no idea
25:47
Speaker 1: what is in the grasp is anymore? From the roughing
25:49
Speaker 1: of the passer, calls on sacks to lack of whistles
25:51
Speaker 1: when the quarterback is grabbed by three players and being
25:54
Speaker 1: driven to the ground, is becoming more and more confusing
25:57
Speaker 1: and changing the outcomes or momentum of games. I think
26:01
Speaker 1: he has a point, and uh I first started thinking
26:05
Speaker 1: about this again. It's an age old issue in the NFL.
26:08
Speaker 1: How much do you let quarterback scramble. When do you
26:12
Speaker 1: stop and start calling roughing as opposed to letting them
26:15
Speaker 1: get outside the pocket and do things. But I really
26:18
Speaker 1: noticed that Brian against Deshaun Watson, that there were plays
26:22
Speaker 1: where it looked like he was able to extend because
26:26
Speaker 1: the ref correctly assumed this guy can get out of this.
26:30
Speaker 1: We need to give him a chance to get as
26:32
Speaker 1: he's still trying to play. But had that been a
26:36
Speaker 1: the defensive body clock and their experience and what they've
26:39
Speaker 1: been coached is don't hit the quarterback late. So there's that.
26:44
Speaker 1: I don't know how long the gray area is a
26:46
Speaker 1: half second um and I think as you get more
26:51
Speaker 1: players Watson, I mean, all these guys are mobile, they run,
26:56
Speaker 1: they use their legs. I think the league is going
26:59
Speaker 1: to have to look trying to figure out, maybe not
27:02
Speaker 1: change the rules, but have a a reset on point
27:06
Speaker 1: of emphasis in the offseason. How are we going to
27:09
Speaker 1: call this? What are we going to allow? What's your
27:11
Speaker 1: point of emphasis? Right? Is the point of emphasis player protection?
27:13
Speaker 1: Are you protecting the quarterback or is it allowing the
27:16
Speaker 1: quarterback to make a play? Well, I think you're I
27:18
Speaker 1: think you're trying to find because they sure at this
27:20
Speaker 1: point with as exciting as these guys are, they're not
27:25
Speaker 1: going to try to take it away. Yeah, is giving
27:28
Speaker 1: them enough time to make a play, which means the
27:30
Speaker 1: defenders get to hit him. Because that was Abrey Jones
27:34
Speaker 1: on the touchdown drive in the first half in which
27:37
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson was being Tavin Bryan had him and I
27:40
Speaker 1: think it was unique, and Gockway had him. They were
27:42
Speaker 1: on him. That would normally blow a quick whistle right protection.
27:47
Speaker 1: Instead he's able to turn and dump the ball off
27:50
Speaker 1: because the officials gave him more time. And Abrey Jones
27:53
Speaker 1: came in very colorful language that I cannot repeat. Words
27:56
Speaker 1: I've never heard before. Um was urging his team mas
28:00
Speaker 1: to pound the Shawn Watson. In other words, if the
28:03
Speaker 1: officials are going to let him make that play, they
28:06
Speaker 1: have to let us make our play, and that is
28:08
Speaker 1: to put the guy on the ground. But then you
28:09
Speaker 1: wonder if they had hit him. You wonder, but was
28:15
Speaker 1: take the penalty Black send the message to Sean tuck
28:18
Speaker 1: the ball under or you're getting hit. I think it's
28:22
Speaker 1: gonna be an. You know, we saw it in London. Um,
28:27
Speaker 1: if if that same scenario had happened on a primetime
28:32
Speaker 1: game or a game where the nation is watching. If
28:37
Speaker 1: you had seen that same scenario, say against Russell Wilson
28:40
Speaker 1: that night on many night football, I think you could
28:43
Speaker 1: see a hue and cry from people trying to figure
28:46
Speaker 1: out how to do this. But my guess is it's
28:49
Speaker 1: going to lean towards protecting the quarterback and allowing then
28:55
Speaker 1: to make plays. It's going to lean against the defense
28:57
Speaker 1: favors the quarterback. Then. Yeah, they weren't calling him Whodini,
29:01
Speaker 1: by the way, as a lot of commentators were calling
29:05
Speaker 1: him around the NFL in recent weeks. They were calling
29:08
Speaker 1: him highly favored. In other words, the officials are gonna
29:11
Speaker 1: let him get his we better get ours. We'll send
29:13
Speaker 1: him the message. If the officials won't do it, will
29:16
Speaker 1: send it to him, and when he's laying on the
29:18
Speaker 1: ground in pain, he'll think twice about trying to extend
29:22
Speaker 1: the play. Then they're done. That never ends up good.
29:25
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Thomas in Virginia. Do you
29:28
Speaker 1: think Nick Foles can make it through the rest of
29:30
Speaker 1: the season with the offensive line that is currently in
29:33
Speaker 1: front of him. Keep in mind he didn't last two
29:35
Speaker 1: series with his own live work with them. Well, I
29:40
Speaker 1: don't know how you predict the future. I mean, I
29:42
Speaker 1: think the offensive line didn't run black well against the Texans,
29:47
Speaker 1: but it did pass plot well against the Texans. If
29:50
Speaker 1: the Jaguars get that line more often than I get
29:52
Speaker 1: that Nick got hurt. Joe's also landed with him in
29:56
Speaker 1: all of his body right um after the touchdown throws,
29:59
Speaker 1: so he time to make the throw. I think the
30:02
Speaker 1: Jaguars offensive line with Folds playing will look better than
30:06
Speaker 1: it did with Minshew playing, because he's going to get
30:09
Speaker 1: the ball out quicker. It's gonna be more of a rhythm.
30:11
Speaker 1: He's not going to enddecisively, put the offensive line situations
30:15
Speaker 1: to look bad. That said, it's not gonna be perfect.
30:18
Speaker 1: And he does have an injury history. So will he
30:21
Speaker 1: stay healthy on the five times he gets hit hard
30:25
Speaker 1: and taken to the ground, which inevitably is going to happen,
30:27
Speaker 1: we'll see. I can't really predict that one. He wanted
30:30
Speaker 1: answers the answers you guys. I think you'll stay healthy
30:32
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. There you go, Thomas. You
30:35
Speaker 1: heard it here first. You're looking for an answer. Here's one.
30:37
Speaker 1: All right, Let's wrap it up and go to California.
30:41
Speaker 1: With Nick Foles returning, what changes do you anticipate in
30:44
Speaker 1: our play calling? How can a mid season switch benefit
30:48
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. This is kind of tough because you don't
30:51
Speaker 1: have a body of work when you did see him
30:55
Speaker 1: to know what you're gonna see. I expect the Jaguars
31:01
Speaker 1: too call essentially the same sort of offense, but until
31:06
Speaker 1: look different than it did. I think it will look
31:09
Speaker 1: more efficient than it did with Minshew. I'm not sure
31:11
Speaker 1: how much of the offense Minshew had a grasp over.
31:14
Speaker 1: Remember if the Filippo comes in. Nick Foles tells us
31:17
Speaker 1: when he signs here in March that he has an
31:19
Speaker 1: understanding of the offense then, and he hadn't even had
31:22
Speaker 1: a day on the practice field yet. So with him
31:24
Speaker 1: understanding and with his relationship with the offensive coordinator, Uh,
31:29
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think you'll see the same sort
31:31
Speaker 1: of place. I just think you'll see a deeper dive
31:32
Speaker 1: into the Playbook's just more that they can do with
31:35
Speaker 1: Nick Foles than they could have done all season long
31:38
Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshire. And I think you'll see, as you
31:39
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, I think you'll see more seam ruts. I
31:41
Speaker 1: think you'll see more balls completed to the second level,
31:45
Speaker 1: not necessarily bombs, but the second level of the defense
31:48
Speaker 1: where Foles sees that he can read what's going on
31:51
Speaker 1: the secondary he maybe has a little more of a crisp,
31:55
Speaker 1: quick arm that can get the ball there on there
31:57
Speaker 1: that and you may see that a little more if
31:59
Speaker 1: you're they're looking forward just to feeling that Deed Westbrook
32:02
Speaker 1: is the name we're talking about. Yeah, and you gotta
32:04
Speaker 1: think just as a whole more decisiveness because that was
32:06
Speaker 1: one of Gardner's biggest thing. You hold on the ball
32:08
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34:14
Speaker 1: Country just tweets out this picture at the dinner table
34:16
Speaker 1: of disbelief. Chiefs, you had one job, Titans beat them
34:22
Speaker 1: everyone Sunday afternoon was just like, come on, really, that's fun.
34:28
Speaker 1: It got me, It made me laugh. Just what are
34:31
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34:39
Speaker 1: That and just disbelieve that that game as well, and
34:41
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34:47
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34:49
Speaker 1: than the Titans. You know, but you could have had
34:51
Speaker 1: the best. Yeah, you could have been greed what could
34:55
Speaker 1: have shut Also think that the other teams in the
34:57
Speaker 1: division have caught the Chiefs said, it can copletely different
35:00
Speaker 1: time the Jaguars did. The Jaguars caught him when Mahomes
35:04
Speaker 1: was completely healthy and he was healthy, he was healthy
35:06
Speaker 1: other day, but he caught him. They caught him when
35:07
Speaker 1: he was completely healthy and when they were completely healthy.
35:10
Speaker 1: And uh, and on the day that you lost your
35:12
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, right, so didn't help the Chief's defense as expected.
35:17
Speaker 1: Has turned into a question, what could the Jaguars offense
35:21
Speaker 1: that day with folds have done? I'm not sure they
35:24
Speaker 1: win the game with that, it would have been a
35:25
Speaker 1: much more competitive game. I agree, Yes, all right, let's
35:31
Speaker 1: go to some bye week activities. Gardner Minshew going home
35:34
Speaker 1: to Mississippi. His younger sister, Callie, plays volleyball from Mississippi
35:38
Speaker 1: State University. They tweet out this picture Gardner Minshew. I
35:42
Speaker 1: guess this is called the first serve that you do
35:44
Speaker 1: when someone of celebrity esque style comes to town. Callie's
35:49
Speaker 1: brother doing the first serves brother. But obviously they tweet
35:56
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35:58
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36:02
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36:04
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36:07
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36:11
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36:14
Speaker 1: son played high school football against him. Um, everyone in
36:18
Speaker 1: Mississippi is on the Gardner Minshew bandwagon, knowing he didn't
36:22
Speaker 1: need to be called anything but Calli's brother at this point, Yeah,
36:24
Speaker 1: maybe left Calli's brother and Minshoe's on the Cali bandwagon
36:28
Speaker 1: because he'll swear to you she's the best athlete in
36:30
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36:32
Speaker 1: has a football opinion. I recently had followed the account
36:36
Speaker 1: and it is definitely true. She's a freshman and she's
36:39
Speaker 1: absolutely killing it. They only tweet about her. She apparently
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Speaker 1: is a all star there. All right, let's wrap it
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Speaker 1: up with some news in the NFL. Colin Kaepernick. We'll
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Speaker 1: be working out Saturday in front of all thirty two
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Speaker 1: NFL teams that represent him from each team is supposed
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Speaker 1: to be there. I guess you could say, not sure
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen with Obviously, Saturday night the ideal
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Speaker 1: for the schedule of the NFL. But this is really
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Speaker 1: interesting that this has come about just last night. I
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Speaker 1: wonder whose fans are more fervent. You know, when Tim
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Speaker 1: Tebow kind of drummed out of the league and no
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Speaker 1: longer had a job in professional football, all we heard
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Speaker 1: was Tim gets a chance, Give Tim a chance, And
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Speaker 1: there has been a loud human cry for Kaepernick to
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Speaker 1: get another chance. And it feels similar for different reasons
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Speaker 1: to me. Um, but I'm not sure that it makes
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Speaker 1: any difference at this point. I'm you know, teams are
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Speaker 1: scared of this guy because you give him your franchise
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Speaker 1: to use as his stage, and they want to know,
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Speaker 1: are you going to be a football player or are
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Speaker 1: you the social justice advocate? Because teams, while they're willing
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Speaker 1: to support him in that, they want to know they're
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Speaker 1: getting a football player first. And then you got a
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Speaker 1: question what kind of a football player? Is he? All
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Speaker 1: that great in San Francisco at the end, and there's
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Speaker 1: also the element of he's clearly just like I ain't
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Speaker 1: Tebow probably was one of the best seventy or ninety
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the plan at it um is he just
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Speaker 1: like with Tebow, some of the outside fan fervency Uh,
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Speaker 1: you wondered if if if he's not a starter, if
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Speaker 1: he's not a front line starter, do you build around
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Speaker 1: that and take on everything that's around it. I think
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Speaker 1: that's where the backup type quarterback or the number thirty
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Speaker 1: one quarterback sometimes runs into trouble when they have the
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Speaker 1: outside along with it. It's funny, the difference just became
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Speaker 1: clear to me. The fans wanted Tebow, the media wants Kaepernick.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of where that one, but that's where that
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Speaker 1: one seems to lie. Um I don't know his fans
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Speaker 1: who went Kaepernick too, but I guess yeah, but every
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Speaker 1: team who all of a sudden loses are starting quarterback things. Well,
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Speaker 1: there is that guy, and they remember two thousand twelve
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Speaker 1: when he led them to the super Bowl and then
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Speaker 1: the boy then he was on his game. But go
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Speaker 1: back to the very end, you know, fifteen in uh
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Speaker 1: in San Francisco and Blank Gabertt was the starter. So
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Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for. Very interesting to see
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Speaker 1: how that one plays out, that's for sure. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: he is a political hot potato. There are people on
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Speaker 1: both sides of the line, and the league has tried
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Speaker 1: to manage this. What I think is interesting is why
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Speaker 1: they chose. I guess they called him a city of
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Speaker 1: two hours to decide, and it's going to be this Saturday,
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Speaker 1: And no, we can't do it later in the day.
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Speaker 1: It's right here right now, do it? What prompted that? Yeah? Why? Now?
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Speaker 1: Why now? Of all weeks? That'll be a story. It'll
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Speaker 1: come out at some point, all right, And that is
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Speaker 1: our show, Jags Drive Time Wednesday morning. Stay to Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles press conference this afternoon in Jaguars Happy Hour. Later
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Speaker 1: on at four o'clock