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#0121_ STORY INSPIRE: A Conversation That Could Change Your Life Brian Simpson · INSPIRE STORY

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Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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Speaker 1: Do you get new glasses? No, I just have a
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different pair for different stuff.
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Speaker 2: Did they get stronger? No.
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Speaker 1: No? I just have a... Did you always have glasses?
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Speaker 2: Like, do you have an eyeball issue?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got astigmatism. Okay. But I got one for
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driving and one for my computer.
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Speaker 2: I used to have to use reading glasses. Then I
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started using red light, red light therapy. And I think
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that the first thing I started doing is taking this company,
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Pure Encapsulation has this, it's called macular support. It's like
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a combination of nutrients that help your eyeballs. I don't
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know how, but I explained it to Huberman. He read
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it off to me and he's like, this makes sense.
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But then the big one was red light. I started
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using red light therapy. I don't need glasses anymore. What? Yeah,
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my eyes aren't perfect. Like, in low light, they're not
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so good. Like, in a dark restaurant, I have to
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use the flashlight on my thing to read a menu,
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but I don't need glasses anymore.
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Speaker 1: So I've been wondering that. Is it that I'm getting older,
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or are they just using darker light in the restaurants?
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Speaker 2: They definitely use dark light in restaurants. I mean, young
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people can still read it. Like, I've gone to restaurants
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with my kids, and they can read in the dark.
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I'm like, you can read that? I can't read it. But...
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Like small print, like on my phone, like reading an email.
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I didn't used to be able to read it, and
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now I can read it perfectly.
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Speaker 1: Oh, see, now I'm in that age now where I've
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got to start switching.
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Speaker 2: Switching glasses.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Here we go. Here we go.
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Speaker 2: Listen, dude, I'm just happy you're alive.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know.
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Speaker 2: People don't know what we're talking about. You had a
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heart attack.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I had a heart attack three months ago. Yeah.
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Super Bowl weekend. Yeah. In Atlanta. Yeah. Out of nowhere. Well,
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was it really out of nowhere? Not really.
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Speaker 2: You know, like you were a marathon runner.
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Speaker 1: Right. Right. Exactly. But I was sitting there, you know, honestly,
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I was sitting there thinking because I remember the doctor because,
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you know, we we really are. Like, we've set ourselves up,
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we kind of deal with trauma in a not... I mean,
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you can argue about whether it's healthy or not, but
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our first go-to is humor. Right. And I remember the
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doctor getting upset with me. Like, the surgeon, the lady
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that was about to... She was about to put a stint. So,
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you know, I'm sitting there, and she was like, hey,
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something very serious just happened to you. You know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Because I was just talking... I was just coping. She
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was not happy about it.
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Speaker 2: Did you tell her that's how I deal with things?
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Speaker 1: No, I was already all drugged up and shit. Because
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it was one of those things where I think they
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can't put you out completely. It's not that kind of anesthesia.
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But I think they need you to be conscious, kind of,
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in case something goes wrong. But whatever the fuck they
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put me on, I don't remember any of it.
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Speaker 2: And you were joking around and she was upset.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened was when I got to the hospital,
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the doctor that first saw me was like, I forget
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his name, but he was like, hey, I'm Doug, and
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don't worry about anything. I'm going to be with you
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the whole time. And then maybe 20 minutes later, they
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wheeled me in, they drugged me up, and I'm like, hey,
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where the fuck is Doug? And they're like, who's Doug?
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I was like, he promised me that he wasn't going
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to leave. Obviously, I was just joking. I know, like,
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he was just saying that so I would calm down. Right, right.
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I don't know why Doug thought he would be bringing
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me comfort. But I just... But I fake made a
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big deal of the fact that I felt abandoned by Doug.
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And she didn't think it was funny.
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 1: But somebody did. And that's all I needed was the laugh.
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I'm like, it's you, bitch.
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Speaker 2: It's not me.
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Speaker 1: You're the problem. You're too serious in here.
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Speaker 2: Well, why would she need you to be serious if
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you're getting a stent put in? Wouldn't that make it
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work better?
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Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair... I think my whole life
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people have said as serious as a heart attack. And
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I feel like if you dedicated your life to that,
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you probably a serious person. I don't know any other
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heart surgeons, but I bet they all pretty uptight.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to be. It's life or death with
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every decision that they make.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: I guess they got to get it in on time.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Like if they're going to put a stent in you,
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if they're going to do something like if you're one
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of those people like you are that if you didn't
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address this, you would have died.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: So that's one of those things is time critical. So
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I guess with those people, like, hey, stop fucking around. Like,
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in their mind, like, I got to save you. I
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got to figure out what has to be done within
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a certain amount of time and get you on the
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road to recovery. Because if I don't, you're dead.
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Speaker 1: You know what? Something else I remember, and this was
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just flat, because I only remember, like, these couple seconds,
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is she kept yelling at me because I kept moving
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my hands. So basically, like, I'm laid down like this,
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and they want you to keep. They want you to
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keep your hands right by your side. And I just
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remember I kept coming to with her being like, hey,
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keep your hands. She might have said keep your fucking
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hands down.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, though.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I ain't going to make no accusations.
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But she was clearly upset about it. But I'm like, bitch,
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I'm on drugs you gave me. I'm not doing it
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on purpose. Apparently my default response, because they have to
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put a stint in, but they go through your groin. Yikes. So,
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you know, so apparently, like, my default response is to
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protect my dick. Right. Like, I'm waking up, somebody's fucking
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around down there. You know? It's like, why don't y'all
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tie me down if it's that important? Why don't you
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tie my hands down? Right. But maybe they can't. I
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don't know. I don't know what else is going on.
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And medical people are real sensitive about criticism. You know,
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some of them are really like, we save lives. How
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dare you? And it's like, all right. Yeah. Yeah. Some
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of y'all are still assholes, though.
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Speaker 2: Well, they don't have the best sense of humor. They can't. Like,
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that's not the way you— if you want to be a
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really good doctor, you can't be also a stand-up comedian.
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Speaker 1: Well, see, the nurses have a sense of humor. Right. Right. Right.
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Speaker 2: Nurses are fun.
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Speaker 1: They might as well be different species.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Nurses are fun. Like, nurses come in, they joke
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around with you, they fuck around. Like, some of them do,
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at least.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And— Some of them kill you.
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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. In Atlanta, the nurses were incredibly attractive.
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Like— Really? There was hot nurses everywhere.
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Speaker 2: Dang it.
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Speaker 1: Like nurses, and it's something about like vet techs, like
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the ladies working at the vet hospitals. Yeah. It's something
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about going into that field. I don't know what it is.
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Speaker 2: Vet techs, you mean veterinarians.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like veterinarians. But not the doctors. Right. Just the nurses.
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Speaker 2: Just the nurses. Well, they're people who love animals, sweet people.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: And money. They love animals and money.
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Speaker 2: Well, the nurses don't usually love money. If they did,
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they wouldn't get into that profession. But the veterinary hospital
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certainly loves money. The administration.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, I can't decide which pisses me off more. Like,
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when I get the bill at the human hospital or when...
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Because at the vet hospital, I feel like they.
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I feel like they're extorting me.
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Speaker 4: Ooh.
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 1: Like, when I got the bill from this hospital, I
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was like, God damn.
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Speaker 2: But.
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Speaker 1: I was in there and they were, because they didn't
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walk up to me while, like before the surgery and go,
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what's it going to be?
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: But when it's your pet, that's what they do. Right.
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We could do this life-saving thing, which is the best
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thing to do, but it's way more money than you have. Or,
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you know, you can be a piece of shit pet
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owner and get the $ 20 thing. Yeah. They'll try to
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get you to take out a loan, all that. Just
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really turn the screws. That's awful.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know when the last time you had to
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do some serious shit for your pet.
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Speaker 5: Pretty recently.
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Speaker 2: Marshall swallowed a bunch of rocks.
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Speaker 1: Oh, God damn.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Someone spilled chicken food on the gravel, and he
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ate all the chicken food and just kept eating and
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started eating gravel.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: He's retarded. He's the sweetest. He's the sweetest dog that's
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ever walked to face the earth, but he is not clever.
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And so we bring him inside. No one knows. No
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one knows anything that happened. And then he starts throwing
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up and he's throwing up rocks like little pebbles. And
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then he starts getting diarrhea and he's diarrhea and pebbles.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, no.
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Speaker 2: And then we put two and two together. We figured
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out what happened. And so then I had to take
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him to the vet. So I took him to the
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vet and he had to stay there overnight. And luckily
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they didn't have to do surgery. They pumped it out
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of it. They somehow or another got the rocks out
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of his stomach and they had to keep scanning it
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to make sure there's no rocks remaining in there. And
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so he passed all the rocks, either threw them up
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or shit them out. And then within a certain amount
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of time, I think he was there for, he was
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there for at least 24 hours. But after a certain
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amount of time, he started eating and then they weren't
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worried about him anymore. That dog fucking eats. He just,
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all he wants to do is eat. He gets so excited.
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All he wants to do is favorite thing is eat.
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Speaker 1: I want every morsel of flavor out this dirt.
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Speaker 2: It's so crazy. He kept eating rocks. I mean, he
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ate pounds of gravel. It wasn't like a small amount
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of gravel. It was the amount of gravel that was
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in my living room on the carpet was crazy.
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Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 2: Out of throw up and just diarrhea. It was everywhere.
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It was a crime scene.
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Speaker 1: I bet you he won't do that shit again.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, he will. He will.
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Speaker 1: He'll do it tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Dude, that dog doesn't learn shit.
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Speaker 1: He's the best.
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Speaker 2: Like, he's a sweet dog. I love him so much.
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I love him so much. He's just all love. Every
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time I see him, he's just wagging his tail. I
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get down on the ground with him. He kisses me.
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I hug him. I rub his belly.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: He's the best, but he is not. That used to
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be a wolf. That's what's so fucked up about human beings.
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We took something that's the most clever, most, they communicate
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with each other. They plan traps on everything.
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Speaker 1: Animals.
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Speaker 2: They're so clever. You can't– and also you can't train them.
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You know that about wolves? You can't train them. That's
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why you don't see wolves in the fucking circus. You
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cannot train. You could train a bear. You could train
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a lion. You could train a tiger. Wolves just go,
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fuck you. I'm going to do exactly what I want
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to do.
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Speaker 1: But not dogs.
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Speaker 2: Certainly not my dog. Like, Marshall, he's the sweetest. Like,
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he was so easy to train.
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Speaker 1: See, that's wild because you can train a lion, but
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you can't train a house cat.
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Speaker 2: Well, you can train house cats to do certain things. Like,
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some people have trained their house cat to shit in
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the toilet.
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Speaker 1: No, Joe, there's a video of, like, I want to
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show you. She's Russian. She's, like, the world champion dog.
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cat training and and she's getting these cats to do
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a whole bunch of shit but every now and then
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they do what they want they just do what the
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fuck they.
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Speaker 2: Want yeah that's true you can't get them to do
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it like like a really good dog with like a
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Belgian Malinois that's a soldier absolutely just does every task
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you ask him to that's impossible absolutely not but with
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wolves you can't train them to do anything they won't
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listen I didn't know that they don't listen to you
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at all I had a friend who had wolves he
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had like seven eighth timber wolves and They got out
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and killed a bunch of his neighbor's sheep. You couldn't
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stop them from doing anything they wanted to do, whatever
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they wanted to do. Why did he have a pack
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of wolves? He's an idiot. He had three of them.
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I was like, you don't have these dogs. You just
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feed them. This is not like a dog.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 2: They don't listen to you, and you have a house
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with a yard. That's crazy. You should have an enormous
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piece of land, and even then— If you have wolves,
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they're going to kill everything they run across.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they need miles of space.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're cardio machines. They run through the mountains. They
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chase down moose.
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Speaker 1: That's why I get so irritated when, because I'm in
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apartments now, and I'm in one of those, I don't
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know what the fuck is going on with my building,
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but it's full of dog. Like, the building is for
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dog people. There's a dog wash. All of the grass
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around it is all fake. And there's fucking shit bags
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every 10 feet. And the front of the building, from
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like noon to 4 p.m., it always just the strongest
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scent of dog piss because 50 people have walked their
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dogs around it. And that's fine. I don't mind that
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at all. But what irritates me is when I see...
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Because I know I have the biggest apartment in the building.
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And I know... That I don't have room for. Like,
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I don't have the room for, like, a blue healer. Right.
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And it's like, you see motherfuckers with dogs like that?
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It was like, yo, that dog needs to be running
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miles every day. Why do you got that big-ass dog? Oh, yeah, well,
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I saw a damn, I saw a cane corso.
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Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's like, you got a cane corso in
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a 1300 square? square foot apartment that's crazy that's crazy
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and i don't and here's the thing i don't see
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that motherfucker every day so you you skipping days this
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motherfucker needs to hurt things or it.
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Speaker 2: Needs to have exercise it's like having an mma fighter
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living in your house like you better take him to
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the fucking gym oh yeah because people always gotta blow
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off steam when people.
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Speaker 1: Find out that i have a cat they always like
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oh so your apartment smells like a cat no No,
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but you know whose places always smell bad? It's people
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that have a dog that's too fucking big to be
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in the place. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Also, they probably can't wash it right. Like, what are
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you going to do? Do you get in the shower
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with it? I used to get in the shower with
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my dogs. I bring Marshall to a groomer, but my
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dog Johnny, he used to love getting in the shower
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with me.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He was a big mastiff, and he loved
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it because it was just massages and love in the shower.
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I'd just cover him with shampoo, and I would talk
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nice to him. I'd go, oh, we're getting so clean, buddy.
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He'd give me kisses. I'm going to groove with you.
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Speaker 1: We're getting so clean. I think there's something about seeing
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their human with no clothes. I think they like it
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because my cat does it. She loves to come in
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the bathroom whenever she knows I'm naked, or she has
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a shower running. She just sits there and watches.
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Speaker 2: It's probably weird to them that you could take your
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clothes off.
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Speaker 1: I think it's weird to them that you wear clothes
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at all.
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Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
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Speaker 1: They're like, what? Yeah, what are you doing?
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Speaker 2: Why are you under the sheets all the time?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I've softened my stance on people that put
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clothes on their animals, but I'm like, they don't like it.
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Speaker 2: Well, some dogs, like chihuahuas in the winter, it's a
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good idea. It's like 30 degrees out, put a little
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sweater on.
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Speaker 1: The dog likes it. No, the dog likes that you
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like it. They like pleasing you, but they don't want
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clothes on.
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Speaker 2: They don't, but if you have like a little dog,
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like a chihuahua, for instance, they get really cold. Those guys,
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if you put a little sweater on them, like, they
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feel better outside.
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Speaker 1: It just makes sense. It's warm. But, okay, then go
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all the way there. Where the boots at?
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Speaker 2: I'm going to wear boots in the summer because, like,
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New York City, like, the street gets so hot. Like,
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if you think about how hot the street gets, if
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it's 98 degrees outside.
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Speaker 1: It was like broken glass. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're just walking on hot rocks.
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Speaker 1: Right. But also, what are you doing with that big-ass
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dog in New York City? That's true. There are no apartments.
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Why you got a Great Dane out here in New York?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would have to make a choice. Like,
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if for some reason I had to move to New
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York City, I'm not getting rid of my dog. And
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I'm not leaving my dog here. You can't get rid
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of your dog. No chance.
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Speaker 1: Not a chance in hell.
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Speaker 2: So I would just have to commit to a lifestyle
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of taking that dog out to, like, Central Park every day,
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doing things with him every day. I would have to
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make a choice.
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Speaker 7: Bro.
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Speaker 2: I would have to live near the park for sure.
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Speaker 1: Like for me to get rid of my cat, it
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would have to be.
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Speaker 2: They'd have to die.
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Speaker 1: They'd have to die or it would have to be
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something where like I am absolutely not capable of, you know,
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like I can't move. Right. Or something crazy like that. Right, right, right, right, right.
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When I moved out here from Cali, like she can't fly.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so did you drive her across the country?
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Speaker 1: I paid somebody to. Oh, there you go. Oh, that
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would be a fuck. Actually, I didn't have a car
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at the time, but that would be a nightmare. This
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is the most stubborn, like this creature, like I have
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a hard time getting her. I've taken her to three groomers.
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They all been like, you got to come get her.
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Because she doesn't like to be restrained in any way.
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And at the slightest sign that you're thinking about holding
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her down or putting her in something, she will fight
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with everything she got.
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Speaker 2: Is she a feral cat?
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Speaker 1: No. Well, she might have been. Where'd you get her?
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I got her... The story the lady told me, it
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doesn't really add up, but basically she was... A divorce happened.
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This family had two cats and a dog. And then
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the wife got the house and started fostering animals. And
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then my cat's brother, so her and her brother were
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the original cats. My cat's brother started basically like joined
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this pack of cats because Millie don't socialize at all.
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But her brother kind of turned on her.
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Speaker 2: Game of Thrones.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so since then, she was just hostile with everybody.
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All the animals, I mean. And so when I came
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to get her, all these animals were in this lady's
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house except Millie. She was in the garage. And they
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had a little post. And she was in the garage.
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And when I came to take her, she was so
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down to go. She was like, fuck all them people.
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Fuck my brother. Fuck this.
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Speaker 2: But she likes you. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: She loves me. She follows me from room to room.
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Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's sweet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: There's some cats that just choose one person, too.
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Speaker 1: She also hates me, too.
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Speaker 2: She hates you?
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Speaker 1: I think she hates.
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Speaker 2: She probably had bad experiences.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:46
Speaker 1: She's got some kind of trauma that I'll never know about.
17:48
Speaker 2: You got to give her some kitty cat ayahuasca.
17:51
Speaker 1: Bro, I've had to put her on CBD and shit
17:54
before we go to the vet. Really?
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Did you ever put her in catnip? You ever give
18:57
her catnip?
18:57
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, sometimes.
18:58
Speaker 2: Does she get high and roll around and get freaky?
19:00
Speaker 1: She loves it. What is it?
19:02
Speaker 2: It's so weird.
19:02
Speaker 1: She loves it.
19:03
Speaker 2: It works on every cat. I've never seen a cat
19:05
where it doesn't work on. I mean, is there shit
19:08
like that for people?
19:10
Speaker 1: You just give someone– We got plenty of shit like that.
19:13
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it gets them high. I
19:14
don't know what it's doing to them.
19:16
Speaker 1: So then?
19:16
Speaker 2: Well, let's find out. I really have no idea what
19:19
the mechanism of– Let's put this into perplexity.
19:23
Speaker 1: All right. Jeremy already did it. What's perplexity?
19:24
Speaker 2: Catnip is an aromatic– Perplexity is our AR sponsor, Brian. Really?
19:29
Speaker 5: Yes.
19:29
Speaker 2: We have an AR sponsor.
19:30
Speaker 1: Oh, shit. Okay.
19:31
Speaker 2: It's the shit. It's not ideologically captured. Catnip is an
19:35
aromatic herb in the mint family whose leaves and stems
19:39
contain a chemical– How do you say that word? Nepetala.
19:45
Want to try that, Jamie?
19:46
Speaker 1: I'm going to say nepetalactone.
19:48
Speaker 2: Nepetalactone. I think you're right. Nepetalactone. That triggers playful or
19:53
euphoric behavior in many cats. Many cats.
19:57
Speaker 1: Interesting.
19:57
Speaker 2: I thought it was all cats. Plant is native to Eurasia,
20:01
now common across temperate regions, and is easy to grow
20:04
in North America, often in gardens or pots. Why cats
20:07
react to it. Catnip contains an oil whose main active
20:10
compound is nepatolactone, a type of terpene produced in glands
20:16
on the leaves and stems. When cats smell nepatolactone, it
20:20
binds to receptors in their nose and stimulates brain pathways
20:24
linked to mood, leading to behaviors like rolling, rubbing, purring, meowing, jumping,
20:29
or brief zoomies. Only about two-thirds.
20:33
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
20:34
Speaker 2: 80% of cats are sensitive to catnip. The tendency is genetic.
20:37
The effect usually lasts 5 to 15 minutes, after which
20:40
they become temporarily immune for a while.
20:43
Speaker 1: Interesting. Is it safe?
20:46
Speaker 2: For most cats, catnip is considered non-toxic and safe, and
20:49
many vets recommend it as an enrichment to encourage play
20:52
and reduce boredom or stress. Eating a small amount is
20:55
usually fun and may soothe the digestive tract, but large
20:58
amounts can cause short-lived stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea, or dizziness.
21:03
Your cat's just a fucking fiend.
21:06
Speaker 1: Oh, shit. You're only supposed to give a pinch?
21:08
Speaker 2: I don't know.
21:09
Speaker 1: That's what it says down there.
21:10
Speaker 2: Only a pinch.
21:11
Speaker 1: Oh, here it goes.
21:11
Speaker 2: Because of this, people typically offer just a pinch of
21:14
dried or fresh. How much do you give your cat?
21:16
Speaker 3: Bro.
21:20
Speaker 1: I don't fuck her world. Oh, my God.
21:25
Speaker 2: You give her a fat bag?
21:28
Speaker 1: You give her a fat bag? I just let her
21:30
go at it, man. You know what's funny, man? My
21:32
cat is very, like, I let her do what she wants.
21:35
You know, like, I let her, she can go outside. Like,
21:38
you know, she's not an outdoor cat, but if she
21:40
want to go out, I open the door. Because I
21:42
make sure, you know what it is? I make sure
21:44
outside is not some mystery place that she, if she
21:48
want to go, I open the door and let her go.
21:50
And then after she get cold or hear something and
21:52
smell it, run back in the house. Because that way
21:55
she's not like just dying to go out there all
21:57
the time.
21:57
Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
21:58
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about her running away.
21:59
Speaker 2: I'm worried about coyotes, man. When you let cats out, man,
22:02
coyotes are fucking everything. They target your house. They know
22:05
where the cats are. They know the cats that get
22:07
let out.
22:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like nothing comes near my building. Because
22:11
it just smells like 50 dogs live there.
22:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they eat dogs, too.
22:16
Speaker 1: Really? Mm-hmm.
22:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, my daughter's puppy got eaten by a coyote in California.
22:21
Guy was training it, and he left the puppy outside.
22:24
It got eaten by coyotes.
22:25
Speaker 1: Bro, I haven't seen no coyotes.
22:27
Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen them.
22:28
Speaker 1: Also, but here's the other thing, too. My girl is,
22:32
you know, she takes zero chances. The slightest sign of danger,
22:37
and she already got... No, she got 50 spots to
22:40
hide and run. Like, she's never gotten into it with anything.
22:44
Speaker 2: The thing about coyotes is they're predators, right? And cats
22:49
are predators, too. But pets are different than wild animals. Yeah,
22:53
this bitch ain't no predator. They're very different.
22:55
Speaker 1: She'll bring a fucking mouse in the house.
22:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they kill stuff. They kill stuff for fun.
22:59
But there's a difference between that and needing to eat
23:02
and needing to, like, eat cats and In order to survive,
23:05
which is what coyotes do. So coyotes know where the
23:07
cats are. They know the smell when cats are peeing outside.
23:13
So they know a cat lives in the house. They
23:14
know the cat pees outside. They just hover nearby and
23:18
wait because they know it's a matter of time before
23:20
the cat has to go outside.
23:22
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, man? I haven't seen a coyote
23:23
the whole time I lived in Austin. They'll hide. Three
23:25
years now?
23:26
Speaker 2: They hide.
23:27
Speaker 1: I know. I saw them all the time in L.A., though.
23:29
Speaker 2: You'll see them. They exist.
23:30
Speaker 1: You know what it is? I think it's that the
23:31
ones out here aren't starving like the ones in L.A.
23:34
Speaker 5: Were.
23:34
Speaker 2: Right.
23:34
Speaker 1: Because they get bolder and bolder the hungrier they get.
23:38
Speaker 2: Well, the thing about Austin as opposed to L.A. is
23:41
there's a lot of animals and there's a lot of moisture, right?
23:44
So if you're outside of greater Austin area, like a
23:48
lot of these coyotes, I see them all the time
23:49
out where I live. Because there's a lot of animals
23:51
where I live. I see, like, foxes almost every day.
23:55
I see armadillos a couple times a week. I see
23:58
deer every day. I always see, especially when I come home,
24:02
I see foxes running across the road. There's all kinds
24:04
of animals. So there's all kinds of things that coyotes eat,
24:07
a lot of rabbits, all kinds of things coyotes eat.
24:09
And so they don't have to come into the city.
24:12
Whereas in L.A., you've got L.A., and then everything around L.A.
24:16
is just barren. You know, it's all dry and fucked
24:20
up and you might find a rabbit, but it's way
24:23
easy to eat someone's cat.
24:24
Speaker 1: And I think that every person doesn't realize how many
24:28
coyotes are around them.
24:29
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
24:30
Speaker 1: Every major city, they're like raccoons. They're in every city, everywhere.
24:34
Speaker 2: There's a great book on it called Coyote America.
24:37
Speaker 5: Oh.
24:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good. And it's all about how coyotes,
24:43
what happens is when they yell out, They're doing like
24:47
a roll call. And when they're doing a roll call,
24:50
they're letting all the other coyotes know that they're there.
24:53
And when one of them is missing, the female coyotes
24:56
assume that that coyote is dead. And so their body
25:00
responds by making a larger litter.
25:03
Speaker 3: What?
25:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:04
Speaker 2: So they'll have more babies if someone's missing.
25:06
Speaker 1: Damn. Death makes them horny?
25:08
Speaker 2: Well, it makes them have more children. They always have children.
25:11
They're always horny. Right. But they instead of having three pups,
25:14
they'll have six. And they spread out because they were
25:18
persecuted by gray wolves. Like that's the whole deal. And
25:23
being gray wolves and red– so coyotes and red wolves
25:29
mate with each other. That's why you get what they
25:31
call a coy wolf. But it really is– coyote is
25:33
a wolf. It's a type of wolf. But they're not
25:36
related to the gray wolves. And gray wolves and coyotes
25:39
don't mate. So gray wolves, the ones that happen like
25:42
Colorado and Montana– Those wolves just eat coyotes. They just
25:48
kill them. They don't fuck around. So there's no chance
25:51
of becoming allies. So those coyotes learned a long time
25:56
ago when they start getting killed by wolves, just spread out.
25:59
Just get the fuck out of there. Keep moving. That's
26:01
why they're in 50 states. They're in every city in
26:05
the country now. And that wasn't the case when I
26:07
was a kid. When I was a kid, like I
26:09
grew up in Massachusetts in my high school years. There
26:11
was no fucking coyotes. I never even heard of anybody
26:15
seeing a coyote.
26:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, me neither.
26:17
Speaker 2: I never saw a coyote in my life until 1994.
26:19
Do you remember in L.A. they had those Oakwood Garden apartments?
26:26
It's like furnished apartments that they had in L.A. And
26:29
I was driving to it. It was like when I
26:31
first moved there. I didn't have an apartment yet. When
26:33
I first moved there, I was like, are those fucking dogs?
26:35
Are these dogs? And I'm like, oh, shit, those are coyotes.
26:38
I remember pulling the car over, looking at them like,
26:41
this is weird. These weird little wolves just wandering around
26:44
the city.
26:45
Speaker 1: Like that's how you know you see in the coyote.
26:46
You're like, is that a dog? Well, that was the
26:48
first time.
26:49
Speaker 2: And that was in 94. But by the time, you know,
26:53
we left in 2020, fucking they were everywhere. I mean, everywhere.
26:58
Like they expanded. And now they're in New York City.
27:02
They find them in the middle of the fucking park.
27:06
They find them in the Bronx. They're in abandoned buildings.
27:09
They're all over the place. They're in Chicago. Coyotes are
27:12
all over the whole country.
27:13
Speaker 1: When I was in L.A., one of the neighborhoods I
27:16
lived in, I was in the neighborhood Facebook group.
27:21
Speaker 2: And there was a dude in there.
27:22
Speaker 1: His name was Coyote. The guy's name was Coyote. He
27:25
just wanted everybody to know that he loved coyotes so much.
27:27
And he would literally— he would defend coyotes no matter what
27:31
the fuck they did. Like, somebody would be in the
27:32
Facebook group, Hey, a coyote fucking ate my dog right
27:35
out of my hands. Watch out. And this guy would
27:37
be like— If anybody here harms that coyote, they have
27:39
to answer to me. Fuck your dog. Oh, God. Oh, yeah.
27:42
I think his name was like Coyote Jones or something
27:45
like that. He was serious.
27:47
Speaker 2: He was real serious. Really into coyotes.
27:50
Speaker 1: He was, you know, everybody got their thing. Wow.
27:54
Speaker 2: They're an interesting animal, man. It's really interesting in that book.
27:58
It's all about.
28:00
Speaker 1: You know who's... I just saw something about how raccoons
28:05
are the next animal that's being tamed or domesticated or whatever.
28:11
Speaker 2: Oh, I believe that.
28:12
Speaker 1: The ones in the city are starting to have shorter snouts. Oh, whoa. Yeah,
28:17
they're starting to- Look.
28:18
Speaker 2: More like how wolves became bitch-ass wolves when they came
28:21
around the fire.
28:22
Speaker 1: Basically, they're starting to get cuter.
28:24
Speaker 2: Like dogs.
28:25
Speaker 1: The ones closer to us are getting cuter because they
28:26
know it gets them treated better.
28:29
Speaker 2: Wow.
28:30
Speaker 1: The cuter ones have more babies. Wow. I know, and
28:34
that's crazy. Because I read somewhere that we haven't actually
28:37
domesticated cats.
28:38
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
28:39
Speaker 1: Maybe domesticated isn't the word.
28:41
Speaker 2: Never got them to the point where we did with dogs.
28:43
Speaker 1: Exactly. But raccoons are getting there.
28:47
Speaker 2: That's so interesting. But it makes sense. Did you ever
28:50
hear about that Russian study they did with foxes? Like
28:53
how quickly you can domesticate a fox?
28:55
Speaker 1: Oh, no. I didn't know that you could do that.
28:57
Speaker 2: Oh, it's really quick. So you start out with foxes
29:00
and any fox that shows any aggression. You start with
29:03
a bunch of foxes. Any fox that shows any aggression
29:06
to a person, you kill it on the spot. Oh.
29:09
Speaker 1: Bang. Dead.
29:10
Speaker 2: Fuck you. Get all the ones that survive or ones
29:13
that have no aggression towards people. And then slowly their
29:16
snouts get shorter and their ears start to flop. And
29:18
over the course of like 10 years, you got a
29:20
totally different animal.
29:21
Speaker 1: See if you can find that. Why don't people do that?
29:23
Speaker 2: Well, they did do that with this one study, but
29:25
it was just to show how quick. Things change like
29:30
given natural selection, like natural selection dictated that if you're
29:33
a sweeter fox, you live. If you show your teeth,
29:36
they fucking shoot you in the head. You know, and
29:38
I'm sure Russian scientists are probably a little bit more hardcore.
29:42
Speaker 1: Or Chinese.
29:43
Speaker 5: Here it is.
29:44
Speaker 2: Dmitry Belov in Ludmilla Truth. The Russian fox domestication program
29:49
is a long-term experiment in... Novosibirsk, Siberia, that successfully bred
29:56
domesticated silver foxes, a form of red fox, selecting specifically
30:03
for tameness. After over 60 years and dozens of generations,
30:06
fox act like domesticated elite pets, displaying dog-like behaviors such
30:11
as tail wagging, licking, and whining for attention. So you
30:15
can buy them? Can you buy one of these foxes?
30:17
That's crazy. See if there's a video. Oh, you can
30:21
get one for $ 9, 000.
30:24
Speaker 1: What?
30:25
Speaker 2: Known for high energy and needing intensive care. Yeah, you
30:27
don't want that in your fucking 1,300-square-foot apartment.
30:30
Speaker 1: It makes them elite, though.
30:32
Speaker 2: It is interesting, right? What does that mean? Does it
30:38
look like AI? Let's see. Who knows nowadays, right? Oh,
30:44
look at this. Lay's got a fox as a pet.
30:48
Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
30:49
Speaker 2: They're like little dogs. That's crazy.
30:52
Speaker 1: Oh, bro.
30:54
Speaker 2: But the thing about foxes are they are like playful
30:57
in the wild. Even wild foxes are playful with people. Oh,
31:02
this little guy's missing a foot. I don't know if
31:06
those are wild or.
31:09
Speaker 5: I think it's just showing foxes.
31:10
Speaker 2: These are just different foxes. I don't think these are
31:12
those foxes. This is just... Right. It's showing the info
31:16
and then showing a bunch of different foxes. But If
31:18
you remember Grizzly Man, like that movie, the Werner Herzog movie.
31:22
So he was living in the middle of Alaska around
31:26
these bears and the foxes would come and hang out
31:29
with him. And the foxes would like hang out in
31:32
his tent. They would play with him. They stole his
31:34
hat once and ran away with his hat and he
31:36
was like chasing them trying to get his hat back.
31:38
And the bears don't attack the foxes? Well, they probably
31:42
would if they could, but foxes probably can get away.
31:44
I mean, they probably catch a fox slipping every now
31:47
and then, but mostly what they were looking for up
31:48
there was salmon. They were eating a lot of salmon.
31:51
And when bears get salmon, that's all they want. There's
31:55
a crazy video that we've shown before of this guy,
31:58
and they're on the edge of a river, and the
31:59
salmon are running. There's all these bears in there that
32:02
are just gorging on salmon, which is why those coastal
32:06
bears are so much bigger. Like Kodiak bears, like Alaska,
32:09
the reason why they're so much bigger is because they
32:11
have access to salmon. They have access to fish and
32:14
all the other animals that are there too. But when
32:16
there's a salmon run, that's all they want. They just
32:19
want to eat salmon.
32:19
Speaker 1: So you're saying like if you give salmon to a
32:21
bear that's never had salmon before, it'll just– that's all
32:24
it'll want after that?
32:25
Speaker 2: No, that's not what I'm saying. I wouldn't– it's probably delicious.
32:28
I mean that's why we like sashimi. Yeah. I think
32:30
it's the access is so easy. They don't have to
32:34
chase anything. They just stand in the river. It literally
32:36
comes to them. They just bite it out of the air.
32:38
You see how bears do that. Oh, yeah. And bears
32:40
are kind of lazy. Like if they can preserve energy,
32:42
they will. They just want to get fat for hibernation, right?
32:45
So they just want to eat as much as possible.
32:47
So the point is like when they're like that and
32:50
they're just eating fish, you don't even have to worry
32:52
about them. They're not even going to kill you. So
32:54
this dude is like sitting there. He's got like a
32:56
little lawn chair and this fucking guy. giant bear just
33:01
walks up besides him and sits down like sits down
33:04
almost like a person and they're like hey get out
33:07
of here hey i mean it is as close to
33:10
him as you are to me and it might be
33:12
a thousand pounds i mean this thing is fucking gigantic
33:16
and you see the river behind him so you see
33:18
all these bears that are just scooping salmon out of
33:20
the river and.
33:21
Speaker 1: What is that what is the bear trying to tell
33:22
him about bears.
33:23
Speaker 2: On it doesn't give a fuck he just comes to
33:25
sit down like he might be a stick or a
33:28
person it doesn't matter it's eating salmon sorry like watch
33:31
this look at this look at this this dude's just
33:36
sitting there with his fucking chair and this giant ass
33:39
bear just comes next to him look at the size
33:41
of that thing.
33:45
Speaker 1: But it's not.
33:45
Speaker 2: Interested in him at all it's not like playing coy
33:49
it's not pretending it's not gonna kill him Like, it
33:52
doesn't care about him. Like, it doesn't think that he's
33:55
going to eat it. That's for fuck sure, right? So
33:58
it's like he's just chilling. Like, that might as well be,
34:02
look at him. He sits down like a person.
34:06
Speaker 1: Bro, you know what it is about these motherfuckers is
34:08
how fast they can go from this to terrifying.
34:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, to 45 miles an hour. But look, he's like, hey,
34:14
get out of here. Then it walks off. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
34:20
He's like, all right, not looking for any trouble. Just
34:21
hanging out. It's amazing that the thing listens to him.
34:25
But it's also amazing that he's not freaked out. I
34:27
guess he's taking a photo. So in that video, you
34:29
see there's a ton of bears that are just hanging
34:31
out in that stream. And they don't fight with each
34:35
other either during those situations because they know there's so
34:38
much salmon, there's enough for everybody. Like, if one of
34:41
them kills a moose, right, the other ones will come
34:43
over and try to steal it from them.
34:44
Speaker 1: Fuck you. That's my moose.
34:46
Speaker 2: And they'll– because there's only one food source. But on
34:50
these rivers, there's just constant fish coming out. So they're
34:54
just grabbing them and eating them. And they're fucking gigantic
34:58
because of that.
34:59
Speaker 1: We don't know shit about these animals, man.
35:01
Speaker 2: We know a little.
35:02
Speaker 1: You know, I just saw some shit about Florida. So
35:05
they have a serious– snake problem now.
35:11
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
35:12
Speaker 2: Like, I think it's... Pythons.
35:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pythons.
35:15
Speaker 8: And.
35:15
Speaker 2: I had a dude on, Python Cowboy. He gave us
35:18
a head. Where is that head? Do you know where
35:20
that head is?
35:21
Speaker 1: Well, yeah. Well, they... So, they... They've been trying to catch... So, apparently,
35:25
it came from the 80s and the 90s of, like,
35:28
a big python pet boom.
35:30
Speaker 8: And then.
35:31
Speaker 2: Well, it was a research center that got hit by
35:32
a hurricane.
35:33
Speaker 5: Right.
35:33
Speaker 1: That's what I was about to say. The hurricane came.
35:35
They released it into the wild. Now, it's a problem.
35:38
Speaker 8: And.
35:39
Speaker 1: They tried paying hunters to get them and they tried
35:42
training dogs to find them. Nothing is good enough. But
35:44
then they made robot rabbits. You see this? Yeah, they
35:52
made robot rabbits and they made them. They put them
35:56
in these boxes and they generated fake body heat and
36:02
the scent of rabbits and everything. And it did attract,
36:06
it did pull the snakes, but it pulled everything else too.
36:09
So what ended up happening is the snake's only natural
36:13
predator was alligators. And the alligators was fucking these things up.
36:19
And the snakes purposely avoid the alligators. So it ended
36:24
up having the opposite effect. The snakes stayed away and
36:27
the alligators were fucking these boxes up. Oh, wow. And
36:30
it was almost a complete waste. But then one of
36:33
the nerds, as they were about to shut the whole
36:35
fucking thing down, he noticed in the data... that what
36:40
they actually found out, so they plugged it into AI,
36:43
and the AI did this whole fucking map of all
36:47
the data, because apparently before every attack, those boxes were
36:52
still tracking movement and everything was going on, and they
36:55
found out that the animals have highways. So it's not
37:01
that the snakes were in random places, it's that the
37:04
snakes and the alligators were using these these highways that
37:08
only they could smell of, of like the quickest ways
37:12
to get through the Everglades and stuff like that. And
37:14
so they were able, so now they just, they know
37:16
where they are and they know how they get from
37:18
one part of the, of the swamp to the, to
37:21
the other. And they didn't, so we learned something. We
37:24
still don't know what the fuck to do about the pythons.
37:27
Speaker 2: They used dogs a lot where the dogs find the eggs.
37:31
Speaker 1: Well, they, they've trained these two dogs specifically, but, but
37:34
they got to the point where it's like, You know,
37:37
it's just so much ground to cover. Two dogs ain't
37:39
going to do it. Because that's the problem with the pythons.
37:42
I mean, we could wipe them out if we wanted.
37:44
Speaker 2: I don't think we can. Well, the problem is— The
37:46
Everglades are so big.
37:47
Speaker 1: Well, that's my point, is we can't—like, the cost of
37:50
doing it— we just haven't found a way where we can
37:52
do it where it doesn't cost just a crazy amount
37:55
of money.
37:57
Speaker 2: But you think about all the money they do spend
37:58
shit on. Like, if they got all this Somali daycare
38:01
center money back, they could kill the snakes.
38:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
38:05
Speaker 2: Did you see Ilhan Omar? She was reading off of
38:08
a script. She's the woman who's a congresswoman from Minnesota,
38:13
from Minneapolis. And she's connected, at least accused of being
38:19
connected to the Somali daycare center. She's Somali. She's accused
38:23
of being connected to this fraud. So she's reading off
38:26
this script. And you know how people write World War
38:30
II and they use like I-I for two?
38:33
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
38:33
Speaker 2: She reads it as World War XI.
38:40
Speaker 1: This is a congressperson?
38:41
Speaker 2: She's a congresswoman. See if you can find the video, Jamie.
38:44
Speaker 1: It's kind of adorable.
38:46
Speaker 2: It's kind of adorable because I don't think English is
38:49
her first language already.
38:51
Speaker 8: The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it
38:55
was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants
39:01
doing World War XI. At least she.
39:04
Speaker 1: Caught it, though.
39:07
Speaker 2: I didn't know she caught it. They always cut it
39:10
off before she caught it.
39:11
Speaker 1: Well, that's politics, bro. Politics is fucking brutal, man.
39:15
Speaker 5: It's gross.
39:17
Speaker 1: I don't understand why anybody would want to go into it.
39:19
Speaker 2: But how could you say World War XI? Like you
39:22
know there haven't been nine other wars you forgot about.
39:26
Speaker 1: But I've said way dumber shit than that.
39:29
Speaker 2: But have you ever read off a written speech?
39:32
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, man, I would almost be, you know
39:36
what it is? I do, on a daily basis, I
39:39
do things or say things that, like, I'm like, I
39:45
definitely shouldn't have children.
39:48
Speaker 2: Well, if you did, they'd make fun of you. I'm
39:50
too forgetful. I say stupid shit and my kids make
39:52
fun of me. It's normal. It's part of being a
39:55
person to pretend that you don't say stupid shit. But
39:58
the thing is, like, you and I say stupid shit publicly. Like,
40:02
we'll say stupid shit on a podcast.
40:04
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And sometimes you get paid for it. But
40:08
I'm talking about stuff that I would be embarrassed to
40:10
have said publicly. Like World War XI. Yeah, like World
40:13
War XI. Because I'm telling you, I do shit like
40:15
that all the time. I have wacky– Tony makes fun
40:19
of me all the time because he's like, you're like
40:20
a cartoon character. I have that kind of luck where
40:23
it's like sometimes I just have those days, man. I
40:26
wake up. This happened like– remember when I was– so
40:29
last Tuesday, right? Last Bottom of the Barrel. You walked
40:33
in the green room and I told you I went
40:35
to go smell the candle and I didn't know there
40:37
was no jelly roll candles. And it's a bong. And
40:40
I wasn't thinking about it. And I went to smell
40:42
the candle and poured the wax on my clothes right
40:44
before I got to go off stage. And I was
40:45
wearing like light pants. So it looked like I jizzed
40:48
on my pants as the wax was drying. And that's
40:53
why I went home early that day because I was like.
40:55
It was one of those days I woke up and
40:56
the day started that way. I woke up to my
41:00
CPAP machine crashing on the floor because I rolled over
41:03
and pulled it off my nightstand. And I get up
41:06
to go deal with that and I fucking stubbed my toe.
41:09
And I'm like, it's going to be one of these days.
41:10
It's going to be one of these fucking days. I'm
41:12
going to drop a glass in the kitchen. You know?
41:15
Speaker 2: So you just said, let's call it a day.
41:16
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'll call it. Go home, go right
41:18
to sleep.
41:18
Speaker 2: Interesting.
41:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:20
Speaker 2: So you gave up on the day?
41:22
Speaker 1: No, I still, I mean, I still ended up at
41:24
the mothership that night.
41:25
Speaker 2: But your set was good, though.
41:27
Speaker 1: My set was good, but I took a nap. I
41:29
napped till the mothership because I didn't want to sleep.
41:31
I'm going to take a strong, take this edible, take
41:33
a strong nap, get to the mothership, do my sets, leave.
41:35
Speaker 2: Almost like it's a new day because you just woke up.
41:38
Speaker 1: But no, but then I spilled the wax on me. Oh.
41:40
So my brain was like, you don't get to cheat. Interesting.
41:44
Speaker 2: The idea of good days and bad days based on
41:46
just like this is what the world has planned for
41:49
you today.
41:50
Speaker 1: This is a bad day. You know what it is?
41:52
If I don't get the sunshine, because I'm a night owl,
41:57
which kind of sucks, but either I need to stay
42:00
up for the sunshine because I got the blackout curtains,
42:02
but if I wake up late in the day and
42:05
I don't get no sunshine, I feel dumber.
42:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I do too.
42:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
42:11
Speaker 2: If I wake up late, even if I get a
42:13
good amount of sleep like more than five hours but
42:16
if i was up really late at night and then
42:18
i wake up late i feel off because your whole
42:21
system's all scrambled your system is used to waking up
42:24
in the morning going to bed at night but if
42:26
you stay up late like your brain is working on
42:29
like 40.
42:29
Speaker 1: Capacity sometimes i sometimes i i because i get i'm
42:33
a big gamer sometimes i'll get it and i'm one
42:36
of those people like if i pay 60 for a
42:37
game or now it's like 80 dollars But I'm going
42:40
to play the fuck out of it. Like the day
42:41
it come out, I'm playing it all night.
42:44
Speaker 2: So you're playing online or you're playing the game itself?
42:47
Speaker 8: Both.
42:48
Speaker 2: Both.
42:48
Speaker 1: It depends on the game.
42:49
Speaker 2: What is the games that you like?
42:50
Speaker 1: All type of shit.
42:51
Speaker 2: Like what's the big one right now?
42:53
Speaker 1: Right now, the game I'm playing the most is called Deadlock.
42:57
It's not open available to the public.
43:00
Speaker 2: It isn't?
43:01
Speaker 1: No. Dude, you're a developer?
43:02
Speaker 2: I didn't get this shit.
43:03
Speaker 1: No, but you have to be invited. It's a closed
43:07
beta or play test.
43:09
Speaker 2: That's how hardcore you are? You get invited to beta tests?
43:12
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I got a bunch of nerdy friends.
43:14
Speaker 2: Wow.
43:15
Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, one of my little nerd groups is like
43:18
through one of the servers at the mothership. We all game.
43:22
We on the same Discord. We'll get on there. Because
43:24
it's nice to have a group where it's like some
43:26
new shit.
43:26
Speaker 2: Come out and we're like, This is Deathlock? Oh, yeah.
43:29
Speaker 1: Ooh, this looks cool. This shit cooler than a motherfucker.
43:32
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
43:32
Speaker 1: But it also will make you mad as shit.
43:35
Speaker 2: So it's third person. So you're looking at it in
43:37
third person. Yeah, it's third person. And do you get
43:39
to pick who you are? Oh, what is that?
43:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now, I think there's 34 characters.
43:45
So look, that's all different people. I know. What is it?
43:48
Speaker 5: There's a lot of information on the screen that just
43:50
popped up.
43:51
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
43:51
Speaker 5: Yeah.
43:51
Speaker 2: What's all those?
43:53
Speaker 1: Buddy, this is.
43:54
Speaker 2: What are all those things?
43:55
Speaker 1: This is crazy. I'm going to fuck this up in
43:56
a bunch of people. Okay. So, basically... Okay. So... So, basically... So,
44:04
see that bottom left number, the green number, 3003? Yeah. Okay. So,
44:08
those are souls, which is just money. Right.
44:11
Speaker 2: Monies are souls?
44:12
Speaker 4: Yeah.
44:13
Speaker 1: In this game, just think of Souza's dollars. So she's
44:15
got $ 3, 000. And basically, the thing she just left is
44:22
the lane she was in. And basically, how well you're
44:26
playing the game, how many kills you get, how many
44:27
minions you're getting... You get more money, and the money
44:30
lets you go buy those items. That's what all those
44:32
cards are underneath those people. It tells you what everyone's bought. Okay.
44:35
And since this bitch got the most money, she's bought
44:37
the most stuff, which makes her stronger. So this game
44:39
is all about getting the money to get stronger faster
44:43
so you can win. Oh, okay.
44:45
Speaker 2: It's like a zip line. Is she on a zip
44:47
line here?
44:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because if you see on the right-hand side,
44:52
that's the map. So there's three different lanes you have
44:56
to control, right? And that big box is like the... Man,
45:03
this is a lot to.
45:04
Speaker 5: Is this like League of Legends, but on the ground?
45:06
Speaker 1: Exactly. Okay. I'm glad you put it like that. But
45:08
that doesn't help Joe at all.
45:09
Speaker 2: That doesn't help me at all.
45:10
Speaker 1: He's like... Thank you. Yeah. Okay, so see... It looks fun.
45:16
See the yellow side? See the yellow side on the
45:18
left-hand side of the map? Okay, that first tower is
45:20
where you start at. Oh, okay. And the point is
45:23
to get stronger, get underneath that, destroy it. Then you
45:26
work down to the second one, That one is a
45:27
little stronger. It defends itself. That's what she's in front
45:29
of right now. Okay.
45:31
Speaker 5: They're on teams.
45:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two teams. Basically, you're trying to work yourself
45:36
down to their base and kill the one on their base. Oh, wow.
45:39
Speaker 2: So you join up with a team of guys that
45:42
are playing this online.
45:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's six on six.
45:45
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
45:46
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. This is all very complicated and
45:49
all this, but they just introduced brawl mode or street brawl,
45:54
which is basically it knocks it down to four on four.
45:57
It makes it one lane, and it gives you random items.
46:00
So you don't have to do any of the complicated shit.
46:02
You can just get in and get it.
46:05
Speaker 2: So you get in, run around, grab something, and beat
46:08
people up with it.
46:09
Speaker 1: Yeah. So basically, the Brawl mode is just the condensed
46:12
version of the game where you're just fighting. You don't
46:14
have to worry about managing anything.
46:16
Speaker 2: Boy, that looks like it'll take up a lot of time.
46:18
Speaker 1: Oh, buddy. Yeah, because here's the thing. What's crazy about
46:22
shit like that is if you're... if somehow you end
46:26
up in a game where everyone knows what they're doing
46:29
and everyone's communicating, one of those games can be over
46:31
in 25 minutes. But if you're on a, that's probably
46:36
not going to happen. So it could go anywhere from
46:38
25 minutes to an hour. I've seen games go an hour.
46:42
Speaker 2: Yeah.
46:43
Speaker 1: So it's like, but most of, if a game is
46:44
going that long, it's just because it's either because people
46:47
are playing with you. Because it's one of those things
46:50
where like, if you get behind to a certain point,
46:53
you can't come back. That's the whole point of the game. Oh, really? Yeah.
46:57
The whole point of the snowball is like, I'm so
46:59
much stronger than you that there's nothing you can do.
47:01
It gets to the point where I'm just abusing you. Okay.
47:03
Speaker 2: Is this because they've collected the most stuff?
47:05
Speaker 1: Because they've had the most money for the longest.
47:08
Speaker 2: Oh.
47:09
Speaker 1: And they can just keep buying better and better shit
47:11
than you, and there's nothing you can do about it.
47:13
But my point is, the point is for you to
47:15
get to a certain point and just end the game.
47:17
But some people don't know when that is, you know?
47:20
Speaker 5: Here's the quick three-sentence overview of what the game is.
47:25
is a futuristic urban fantasy New York. Your god's part
47:30
of an occult ritual trying to destroy each other.
47:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the back story is an event happened called
47:36
the Maelstrom that... There's a whole origin story. No, this
47:41
is just the back story. It opened up a portal
47:43
that let magic into the world, and all of these
47:47
people got all these abilities and powers and stuff like that.
47:50
And there's two opposing gods in some other dimension... And
47:54
they want you to summon them so they can cross
47:57
over into this realm. And, and so there, so the
48:02
team you're on is whichever God you're working for. Right.
48:05
And if you, when you win the game, that's supposed
48:07
to be you completing the ritual. And if you help
48:08
complete the ritual, you get a wish. And so when you,
48:12
when you go to each character, it tells you their
48:13
backstory and what they want, what wish they want when
48:16
they get there. Oh, okay. Yeah. And some people don't
48:18
want nothing. They just want to fuck people up.
48:20
Speaker 2: And how long you been playing this game?
48:23
Speaker 1: It's been probably, I don't know, a year and a half.
48:28
Speaker 2: So this seems super complicated and like it would dedicate
48:32
a considerable amount of thinking.
48:33
Speaker 1: It's very complex. Because you don't even know what the
48:38
fuck you're doing for like the first 200 hours. Yeah. Like,
48:44
it takes about 200 hours before you're like, okay, I
48:46
kind of get what's going on.
48:48
Speaker 2: This is the kind of things that people without kids say.
48:50
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I just, I can't.
48:53
I'm not, I'm definitely, I'm definitely a 43-year-old child. Like,
48:56
I don't live like an adult.
48:58
Speaker 2: Yeah.
48:59
Speaker 7: No.
48:59
Speaker 1: I live like almost like a frat, like a frat
49:02
boy or something.
49:03
Speaker 2: Well, if you could pull it off, those are, when
49:07
you ask people, some of the happiest times of their life.
49:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, for now.
49:12
Speaker 2: When they were young and free. Especially people that don't
49:14
like what they do, right? People get a job they
49:17
don't like it and then they have responsibilities and they
49:19
can't leave their job.
49:20
Speaker 1: Or people to get a wife and don't like her
49:22
that happens a lot that happens too much well that.
49:25
Speaker 2: Happens too and a husband you don't like to both.
49:28
Speaker 1: Oh yes that's probably worse that happened well both of
49:31
them are bad but it happens a lot a lot
49:33
of people.
49:35
Speaker 5: Are you gaming one of these, Brian?
49:38
Speaker 1: Not yet. Come on, dog. That's insane. That's life.
49:42
Speaker 5: But that seems like how you should be playing a
49:43
game like this.
49:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a dark room. Let's talk. Yeah. I mean,
49:47
but the thing is, I don't think that chair is
49:49
very comfortable.
49:50
Speaker 2: How dare you? That chair goes upside down. You're laying down, brother.
49:53
Speaker 5: There's versions of it you could customize.
49:55
Speaker 1: Oh, shit. How much? Six grand? So wait a minute.
49:58
This is zero gravity. Watch.
49:59
Speaker 2: Hit the different images. Look at it. It's like that, Brian.
50:02
Speaker 1: Oh, that's crazy.
50:03
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
50:05
Speaker 1: That's crazy. But what else does it do? Does it massage?
50:07
Sucks your dick. I mean, 10 grand is wild.
50:09
Speaker 2: A mouth comes out, just sucks your dick.
50:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take that. Can you piss in that thing?
50:14
Speaker 2: Well, it used to be 10 grand.
50:15
Speaker 1: It's on sale.
50:15
Speaker 5: Well, they have the one that's also like the bed.
50:17
Have you seen the bed version?
50:19
Speaker 1: The what?
50:20
Speaker 2: Hold on one second. This one does go backwards, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:23
Show a version of it where it's completely reclined.
50:26
Speaker 5: That's what I was trying to.
50:27
Speaker 1: You got this shit, don't you, Jamie?
50:28
Speaker 5: No, but there's things.
50:30
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a scorpion.
50:31
Speaker 5: Let me show you something else.
50:32
Speaker 1: Hold on. That's pretty wicked.
50:36
Speaker 2: And so you can adjust that, and you can make
50:38
the screen right in front of your face.
50:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, I'm about to skip four heart treatments and
50:41
get that chair.
50:42
Speaker 2: I'm about to do.
50:49
Speaker 1: That motherfucking thing. Oh, wow.
50:52
Speaker 2: That one's pretty cool, too.
50:54
Speaker 1: Oh, see, I actually prefer what we're looking at here.
50:58
Speaker 2: Do you? You prefer that to the one that you
51:01
lie back in.
51:02
Speaker 1: Front of your face? No, because the only games I
51:04
use a controller with is Madden.
51:06
Speaker 2: So you're a mouse and keyboard guy.
51:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost exclusively. That's what I am.
51:11
Speaker 5: A little futon built on.
51:13
Speaker 2: I never figured out.
51:14
Speaker 1: How to use those things. No, fuck that futon. Listen,
51:18
who's choosing the futon? If you got the money for
51:20
a good gaming PC, you better not have no futon.
51:23
Speaker 2: Well, he just went all in on the gaming PC.
51:26
I mean, no choice, no chance of pussy.
51:29
Speaker 1: My shit's gotten kind of crazy recently.
51:32
Speaker 4: Yeah?
51:32
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
51:33
Speaker 1: Did I never show you? Check this shit out. What
51:35
you got?
51:38
Speaker 2: Are there any other ones that do it with an
51:40
even bigger screen like that? That kind of a deal? Like,
51:42
what is the ultimate setup for, like, somebody like Bill
51:45
Gates wanting to start gaming?
51:47
Speaker 5: There's a new, like, for the F1 rig we have.
51:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
51:52
Speaker 5: There's a new screen that's come out that's like a 100,
51:54
I don't know. So that's my shit right there.
51:56
Speaker 4: Ooh.
52:00
Speaker 2: Oh, you got a dual monitor set up. Curved monitors.
52:05
Speaker 1: Super ultra wide. That's a problem. Yeah, it's a problem.
52:09
That's a problem.
52:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I'm going to send this to me.
52:14
Send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie.
52:16
Do you have Jamie's number? Yeah, I know.
52:17
Speaker 1: I got Jamie's number.
52:18
Speaker 2: Send it to Jamie. Because that image is crazy. We
52:20
need to show people that image.
52:22
Speaker 1: That's a problem. If I had that, that'd be a
52:24
real problem. Jamie, I got your number.
52:27
Speaker 2: Go on.
52:29
Speaker 5: I do.
52:30
Speaker 2: My best writing, like when I get the most done
52:32
on my laptop because I don't ever look at anything
52:37
else on that laptop. The only time I use the
52:40
internet at all is to check things to like find
52:43
out if something's real. And even that I don't use
52:45
anymore because I use perplexity for that now. I just
52:47
talk into the phone. But if you have that much distraction,
52:54
like two monitors like that, I would never leave. I
52:58
would just be playing games. It's too fun.
53:00
Speaker 1: It's too much. It's too much sometimes.
53:02
Speaker 7: It is.
53:03
Speaker 1: It is. And, uh.
53:05
Speaker 2: They're a fucking problem, man. Games are a problem.
53:09
Speaker 1: They are.
53:09
Speaker 2: Because they're so good.
53:11
Speaker 1: You know what it is, man? It's a dopamine drip.
53:14
Speaker 2: Look at that. Look at that setup.
53:16
Speaker 3: Bro.
53:17
Speaker 2: What's that thing on the right?
53:19
Speaker 1: Um, that is for controlling the sound. So, basically, like, uh... So,
53:26
say I'm in the chat. I'm in the Discord chat.
53:29
Speaker 2: And, uh.
53:32
Speaker 1: and I got a YouTube video playing, and I'm in
53:35
the middle of a game, right?
53:36
Speaker 2: Right.
53:37
Speaker 1: Then I can reach over and turn down the volume
53:43
of the game so I can hear somebody more clearly
53:45
or turn up the music without having to open up
53:47
anything on my mic. That's crazy. You are an addict.
53:52
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jamie, you don't have that, do you?
53:54
Speaker 5: I was going to show you mine.
53:55
Speaker 2: He's got it.
53:56
Speaker 5: I've got way more than that.
53:58
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
53:59
Speaker 5: No, yeah.
53:59
Speaker 1: Jamie's out of control.
54:01
Speaker 5: I have a soundboard connected into mine so I can
54:04
fuck with people.
54:07
Speaker 1: Hey, Jamie, can you blur that top thing?
54:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will.
54:10
Speaker 1: It's got people's.
54:11
Speaker 2: Names on it.
54:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will.
54:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I can record live sound when someone's chatting,
54:16
and I can record their voice and play it back instantly.
54:19
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
54:20
Speaker 1: This is me not streaming. I'm going to start streaming
54:22
this summer, so I'm going to have to add a
54:24
couple of themes.
54:25
Speaker 2: So you're going to start playing video games and streaming it?
54:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can make a lot of money
54:29
doing that. It's easy money, too.
54:30
Speaker 2: It's crazy, because you're already going to play games, right?
54:32
Speaker 1: I know some people that's like, they don't go on
54:33
the road because they make so much money doing this. Wow.
54:36
Speaker 2: But the problem is, how long is that going to last?
54:39
Speaker 1: Going on the road is forever. Oh, yeah, but you
54:41
can always do that.
54:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you might not have an audience anymore.
54:44
Speaker 1: You have that audience.
54:45
Speaker 2: Oh, that's true.
54:46
Speaker 5: Yeah.
54:46
Speaker 2: But they'll be still stuck on those video games.
54:49
Speaker 1: You ever had T-Pain on here?
54:50
Speaker 2: No.
54:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, T-Pain, he's one of the, like, he don't, he's like, yo,
54:54
you gotta offer me a lot of money, because he
54:56
still goes on the road, but it's like, you gotta
54:57
pay him, because he makes, he's like, why would I leave,
55:00
why would I take less money to leave my house?
55:02
Speaker 2: So he just streams?
55:03
Speaker 1: He streams, yeah.
55:04
Speaker 5: His setup he's got is fucking crazy.
55:07
Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah?
55:08
Speaker 5: He's, like, we have one F1 setup, I think he
55:10
bought six, uh, He's got his whole studios in one room.
55:14
He's got the racing room over here. He's got, I think,
55:18
probably four different rooms for different things.
55:21
Speaker 1: And he'll game, or he'll have on guests, or he'll
55:24
just make a song live in front of you.
55:26
Speaker 5: It's just his normal live setup he's got. He's got
55:31
SF1 setups. He's got multiple screens around there.
55:35
Speaker 2: Oh, that's crazy. So he has a whole room dedicated.
55:37
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
55:38
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
55:39
Speaker 5: It's all wired together, too.
55:41
Speaker 2: So when he's streaming, how is he making money?
55:44
Speaker 1: Sponsors. I think he's definitely a Twitch partner of some kind.
55:49
Speaker 2: Okay. So you get sponsors. How much do you think
55:53
he's making?
55:54
Speaker 7: Fuck.
55:55
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I don't even know. I mean, if I
55:56
had to speculate.
55:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, speculate.
55:58
Speaker 1: I would say he's probably pulling in at least a
56:04
quarter million a month or something like that.
56:06
Speaker 2: Probably more than that. Just playing video games.
56:08
Speaker 1: Just streaming. He don't even have to play video games.
56:10
Sometimes he's just talking. That's crazy. Well, there's a lot
56:13
of that, right? A lot of streamers.
56:15
Speaker 2: Like a lot of political streamers that just talk.
56:18
Speaker 1: There's different people that do different things. They call them
56:21
IRL streamers. There's nuisance streamers. Nuisance? Yeah, they just walk around.
56:25
Speaker 2: Just fuck with people?
56:26
Speaker 1: Fuck with people, yeah.
56:27
Speaker 2: We got two drip simulators.
56:28
Speaker 4: Two circuit racing simulators, and one flight simulator down there
56:32
at the end.
56:32
Speaker 1: So this is the VR room. The computer I play
56:36
on is right here. You step down here. Whoa.
56:39
Speaker 3: It's VR.
56:39
Speaker 2: We got sensors in the roof. This is the workshop.
56:42
It was just a utility room, but I was like,
56:44
why not put 3D printers in there?
56:47
Speaker 1: 3D printers? As you can see, I took a lot
56:49
of inspiration from Tron.
56:50
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
56:53
Speaker 1: And he's married, though.
56:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's making money.
56:57
Speaker 1: Oh.
56:58
Speaker 2: How's his wife going to complain? You want to go shopping? Listen, lady,
57:02
this is how we make the money for you to
57:03
go shopping. You're right.
57:04
Speaker 1: You're right.
57:05
Speaker 2: I mean, she can't complain if that's what you actually
57:07
earn money at. My wife used to complain about the
57:10
podcast before it started making money.
57:12
Speaker 6: Really?
57:13
Speaker 2: Well, she was like, you don't have to do that.
57:14
I was like, I do. I have to do it.
57:15
I told people I'd be doing it on Monday at
57:18
X amount of whatever time it was. But that's just always.
57:23
Speaker 1: How long until you relax? I'm fucking just making money.
57:26
Speaker 2: Oh, it took years. I didn't even try. I never
57:29
tried to make any money with it. I always did
57:31
it for free. I did it for fun.
57:33
Speaker 1: For how many years?
57:34
Speaker 2: I didn't make money for years.
57:36
Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
57:37
Speaker 2: Zero money for years. I never even thought of it
57:40
making money. It was just for fun. I would just
57:43
have everybody come over. Like, Segura would come over. Eddie
57:45
Bravo would come over. Joey would come over. Duncan. We
57:47
would just talk shit and just have laughs. It was
57:50
just for fun. We enjoyed the shit out of it.
57:53
We had a vaporizer. This giant bag.
57:56
Speaker 1: The volcano?
57:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, the volcano.
57:58
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
57:58
Speaker 2: The thing was horrendous.
57:59
Speaker 1: I remember when them things first came out. They fucked
58:02
a lot of people's world up.
58:04
Speaker 2: Fucked our world up. There's a lot of podcasts in
58:05
the early days that are unlistenable or watchable because we're
58:08
just obliterated.
58:09
Speaker 1: And I thought it could never get past that. And
58:12
now they got, you know, then people came up with
58:14
the dabs.
58:15
Speaker 2: Bro, Jelly Roll has this machine. It looks like a robot.
58:19
It looks like a little Pokemon robot.
58:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait a minute.
58:22
Speaker 2: Is it that?
58:23
Speaker 1: Because Frank Castillo is one of those. He's like sponsored
58:25
by those people. Those things are crazy. What's it called?
58:28
Speaker 3: Peak.
58:28
Speaker 1: The Peak people. You know what I'm talking about?
58:29
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a Peak. It's a device.
58:32
It scared me just looking at it.
58:33
Speaker 1: Can you look up the Peak Pro?
58:34
Speaker 2: It's big like this French press.
58:37
Speaker 1: It's fucking huge. And listen, every time I see Frank,
58:39
they've come out with a new one. They have one
58:42
that's like a Sherlock Holmes pipe. It's all electronic and
58:44
it's all for dabs. But every time he visits me,
58:47
he's like, hey, bro, check this shit out.
58:48
Speaker 2: People like him are the reason why weed still isn't legal.
58:52
Speaker 1: Well, actually, I just read something today that Trump is making.
58:55
Speaker 2: It's schedule three now.
58:57
Speaker 1: Oh, it's done. It's done.
58:59
Speaker 2: Weed is schedule three. So schedule, first of all, it
59:02
should be right with alcohol. If you're 21, leave me
59:07
the fuck alone.
59:08
Speaker 1: What schedule is alcohol?
59:10
Speaker 2: Alcohol is not scheduled. It's not a prohibitive substance. I
59:12
don't think alcohol is scheduled like that. Alcohol for 21
59:15
and older is totally legal. So schedule one, which is
59:19
where weed was, which is so crazy.
59:21
Speaker 1: It's like the most dangerous.
59:22
Speaker 2: It had no medicinal benefit, harm, addiction. Now alcohol I
59:27
won't argue addiction because I don't think I totally understand
59:33
it the way other people understand it. I think it's
59:35
highly genetic. I think addiction is very genetic because people
59:39
keep telling me that cigarettes are addictive and that nicotine
59:42
is addictive. I recently got off of nicotine patches and
59:47
I started taking ultra patches. Do you know what these are?
59:49
Pouches rather. It's like nootropics. It's like vitamins, like brain vitamins.
59:54
Speaker 1: Is it nicotine in there?
59:55
Speaker 2: No, no, no. No nicotine. And when I started doing it,
59:58
I was like, okay, I wonder if I'm going to–
1:00:00
like I've been doing– you want to try one?
1:00:02
Speaker 1: Here.
1:00:04
Speaker 2: That one's empty. I just bought these off of Amazon.
1:00:07
But I was like– I've done it before when I
1:00:11
went on vacation. Like I didn't have them at all
1:00:13
and I didn't have any withdrawals. But then I talked
1:00:16
to McCann. And McCann said that when he got off
1:00:18
of them, it was like two weeks where he was
1:00:20
like fucking super tense and yelling at people.
1:00:22
Speaker 1: No, no, no. Oh, nicotine.
1:00:24
Speaker 2: Nicotine. Pouches or cigarettes. He got off of all of it.
1:00:28
And then I hear– but so my point is I
1:00:31
think it's a biological thing. I don't think I have
1:00:34
the– I get addicted to stuff. I get addicted to
1:00:39
doing things. I used to be addicted to video games.
1:00:43
I would definitely get addicted again if I started playing.
1:00:45
I get addicted to music. I get addicted to martial arts.
1:00:48
I get addicted to doing stuff. I get addicted to archery.
1:00:52
But I don't think I get– I probably would if
1:00:54
it was like oxys or something like that. I think
1:00:57
that's just too strong. That would just get me.
1:00:58
Speaker 1: I think I'm too much of a control freak to
1:01:00
get addicted to.
1:01:01
Speaker 2: Any kind of hard– Well, you quit cigarettes like that.
1:01:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what? You know why it was easy?
1:01:06
It's because I had a heart attack.
1:01:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the heart attack did it for you. It did. Oh.
1:01:10
Speaker 1: And I already felt like shit, so I didn't go–
1:01:12
the withdrawals were nothing.
1:01:14
Speaker 2: I'm going to send you something, Jamie. This is kind
1:01:17
of crazy, but I sent this to Tom Segura. I
1:01:19
said it's time to start smoking again because there's this
1:01:22
guy that's making this argument that there's a benefit to
1:01:25
smoking as long as you do it with the proper diet,
1:01:30
that there's some sort of an actual benefit to cigarette smoking.
1:01:33
Because one of the things about these blue zones where
1:01:35
people live forever, a lot of these people that are
1:01:38
living that are really old, they smoke cigarettes.
1:01:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's what tripped me the fuck out. Every time
1:01:43
they go, this is the oldest person alive. They're 109, right?
1:01:47
They smoke. And they ask them, they go, what's your secret?
1:01:48
They go, smoke, drink, fire water.
1:01:53
Speaker 2: So listen to this. Smoking is good for them. Top
1:01:56
heart surgeons claim is breaking the Internet. Clip is exploding
1:01:59
after cardiothoracic surgeon Dr. Stephen Gundry made a claim that's
1:02:04
turning everything people thought they knew about smoking upside down.
1:02:07
His argument is smoking, specifically nicotine, can have real benefits
1:02:11
when paired with the right lifestyle. At one point, he
1:02:14
even says about a patient, probably it's because he smoked
1:02:17
that he's doing so well. Points to long living populations
1:02:21
where heavy smoking is common. claims to be part of sardinia.
1:02:24
95% of men smoke and live longer than the women.
1:02:27
Says nicotine acts as a powerful mitochondrial uncoupler. Argues that
1:02:33
the damage blamed on smoking can be offset by diet
1:02:36
and suggests that we've been looking at it completely backwards.
1:02:39
According to him, the real question isn't why smoking harms people.
1:02:43
It's why some smokers live longer and what we're missing.
1:02:47
So there's a video in here. Listen to him talk
1:02:49
about it because it's eight minutes long yeah but just
1:02:52
play a little bit of it because it's kind of
1:02:54
interesting credit to dr mike on youtube.
1:02:57
Speaker 4: I've been smoking for 45 years and they're living a
1:03:02
healthy life and they say it's because i smoke and
1:03:05
obviously we laugh about it because we all agree that
1:03:07
it's not true so why did this one case move
1:03:10
you so.
1:03:10
Speaker 3: Actually let me stop you right there probably it's because
1:03:14
he smoked that he's doing so well.
1:03:16
Speaker 4: Okay we need to back up how do we get
1:03:19
there Well, I have.
1:03:21
Speaker 3: A whole chapter in Gut Check looking at the healthiest,
1:03:25
longest living people. And one of the unique features of
1:03:27
most of the blue zones is that particularly the men
1:03:31
are heavy smokers. And the smoking, actually, the nicotine in
1:03:37
cigarettes is one of the best mitochondrial uncouplers that's ever
1:03:41
been discovered. And we've looked at this through the wrong lens.
1:03:45
We said, wow, what other healthy lifestyle things are these
1:03:49
guys doing that's preventing smoking from harming them. In fact,
1:03:53
we should have looked at it the other way. What
1:03:56
is it about these people who are smokers that allows
1:04:00
them to live to 105, 110 years old? And when
1:04:03
you do that, then you say, okay, smoking was good
1:04:06
for them. Why don't we see the oxidative stress that
1:04:10
smoking we all know occurs? Why don't we see the
1:04:14
cancers in these people? And it's because the rest of
1:04:17
their diet facilitates the absorption of the oxidative stress in
1:04:21
these guys.
1:04:22
Speaker 4: So your state is that if you smoke but eat
1:04:27
in this specific way, you can negate the effects of smoking,
1:04:30
the negative effects of smoking.
1:04:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's fascinating as a heart surgeon, way back in
1:04:34
the good old days, most of our patients were smokers.
1:04:38
And they had specific proximal lesions in their coronary arteries.
1:04:43
The rest of their blood vessels were absolutely gorgeous. And
1:04:48
they were skinny for the most part.
1:04:51
Speaker 1: How did you gauge that?
1:04:52
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
1:04:53
Speaker 1: We operated on... But you.
1:04:55
Speaker 4: Operate on what other vessels that you saw? Like you
1:04:58
would do peripheral arterial disease screenings on those patients? And
1:05:02
you would find.
1:05:02
Speaker 1: I used to operate on... Because one of the.
1:05:04
Speaker 4: Number one risk factors for peripheral arterial disease is smoking.
1:05:08
Speaker 1: Correct.
1:05:08
Speaker 3: Because the smoking, the oxidative stress isn't stopped by our
1:05:15
current diet. Let me give you an example.
1:05:18
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:05:21
Speaker 3: We're one of the few animals that don't make vitamin C.
1:05:24
And vitamin C– and I've written about this. Should we
1:05:28
keep going here?
1:05:30
Speaker 2: We get it.
1:05:31
Speaker 1: I mean, he's– I don't understand what he's saying. I
1:05:33
was going to send people to Dr.
1:05:34
Speaker 2: Mike's YouTube channel for the rest of it, but– Dr.
1:05:37
Speaker 1: Mike wasn't having it.
1:05:38
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't know. I mean, this guy is the expert,
1:05:40
and this guy lays it. And Dr. Mike is open-minded.
1:05:43
He's probably– What he's saying is making sense.
1:05:46
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me. It's the poor diet. That's
1:05:49
why I was hoping that video would give me hope.
1:05:52
But I'm like, bro, if I could change my diet,
1:05:54
I wouldn't have had the heart attack. Oh, so I'm
1:05:59
going to get this perfect diet so I can smoke.
1:06:01
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a perfect diet. I think you
1:06:04
just got to move to Italy. But whenever I go
1:06:07
there on vacation, I'm like, why am I trying so hard?
1:06:10
What am I doing? How come I'm not just chilling?
1:06:13
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's the thing about Italy is they
1:06:16
have a culture of chilling. Yeah. Like their culture, I
1:06:20
forget what they call it, but is it siesta?
1:06:22
Speaker 2: No, that's Mexicans. They call it like that nap they
1:06:25
take during the middle of the day.
1:06:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's only, no, no, no. It's a Spanish thing too.
1:06:29
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
1:06:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they, I didn't know they did
1:06:32
it in Mexico.
1:06:32
Speaker 2: Well, obviously it's a Spanish word, right?
1:06:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know they did it in Mexico.
1:06:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Mexican thing.
1:06:37
Speaker 1: The Spanish are like, nah, middle of the afternoon, everybody napping.
1:06:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, my friend went to the Ferrari factory in Italy.
1:06:43
And he said, dude, it's hilarious. He goes, they barely work.
1:06:46
He goes, like, the reason why it takes so long
1:06:48
to get a Ferrari. He goes, like, these motherfuckers are
1:06:50
just chilling. And he goes, they take these big long– oh,
1:06:53
it was Lamborghini. Yeah, he said they take these big
1:06:56
long breaks for lunch. They eat pasta and they drink
1:06:59
wine and they lay down. They take a couple hours
1:07:04
for lunch and they work a few more hours and
1:07:06
then they go home.
1:07:06
Speaker 1: They got to figure it out.
1:07:07
Speaker 2: Well, I think we work too much, you know. and
1:07:11
this is coming from someone who works too much, but
1:07:13
I work too much at things I love. It's a
1:07:16
different thing, I think, than most people. Most people are
1:07:19
working too much at something that's just making them money,
1:07:21
and they're probably stressed out all the time and don't
1:07:23
enjoy it. But I think if you are working less
1:07:27
and just having more enjoyment in life, what are we
1:07:31
here for?
1:07:32
Speaker 1: See, that's why I think subconsciously that's why I've been
1:07:35
avoiding streaming. I've been talking about it for years because
1:07:37
I'm like, If I start making.
1:07:39
Speaker 2: Money from streaming. And then it becomes a job.
1:07:41
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm going to be like that. You know that
1:07:43
fat kid in the chair in WALL-E? You ever see
1:07:45
that movie? Yeah. I'm going to transform into that.
1:07:49
Speaker 2: Just Uber Eats.
1:07:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I just start making millions of dollars.
1:07:52
Speaker 2: Millions of dollars just eating and laying there.
1:07:54
Speaker 1: Everybody logging into the Discord.
1:07:56
Speaker 2: And no exercise at all.
1:07:58
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
1:07:59
Speaker 2: Well, the more you stream, the more you make, right?
1:08:01
So there's people that stream more than eight hours a day,
1:08:03
don't they?
1:08:04
Speaker 1: I mean, theoretically, yeah. But some people stream a lot
1:08:07
and they don't make shit.
1:08:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's also podcasting. There's a lot of people
1:08:11
that are doing podcasts that aren't making any money.
1:08:13
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, yeah. But you've got to stream to make money.
1:08:16
You've got to be on. Yeah.
1:08:17
Speaker 2: But it's a very specific type of audience, too, though.
1:08:20
It's people that are watching streams. Very different audience than
1:08:23
who's watching podcasts, I would imagine.
1:08:27
Speaker 1: That's hard to say. Yeah. It's hard to say. Yeah.
1:08:30
Because I think– I don't know if those– there's probably
1:08:33
a lot of overlap in those audiences.
1:08:34
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:08:35
Speaker 2: So I don't– what we were talking about before with
1:08:37
the smoking, I don't think smoking is good for your lungs.
1:08:40
I think it's bad for your lungs because everybody I
1:08:41
know that quit smoking, they say their cardio gets better.
1:08:44
Speaker 5: This was a– this stuff– that interview you shared came
1:08:48
out two years ago.
1:08:49
Speaker 2: Oh, did it?
1:08:50
Speaker 5: And there was some controversy around it.
1:08:52
Speaker 1: Well, clearly. What is a blue zone?
1:08:55
Speaker 2: It's places where people live longer.
1:08:57
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
1:08:59
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's what it says. Key details regarding Dr.
1:09:02
Gundry's statements. Controversial claims. In a conversation with Dr. Mike,
1:09:05
Gundry suggested... Smoking could be linked to longer life, observing
1:09:08
that some long-lived individuals in blue zone smoke. Mechanism theory.
1:09:12
Gundry argues that nicotine functions as a mitochondrial uncoupler and
1:09:16
that a high polyphenol diet may mitigate the negative effects
1:09:20
of cigarette smoke.
1:09:21
Speaker 1: Criticism.
1:09:22
Speaker 2: Experts strongly disagree, noting that smoke is a leading cause
1:09:25
of premature death and that any potential benefits are far
1:09:28
outweighed by risks. Right, but they're not taking into consideration
1:09:31
what he said about food. Despite the headlines, Gundley stated
1:09:35
he does not smoke and does not encourage others to
1:09:37
do so. So he's just a scientist relaying research.
1:09:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what are the critics strongly disagreeing with?
1:09:44
Speaker 2: They're not making any sense because they're disagreeing, but they're
1:09:46
not addressing what he's saying in terms of the high
1:09:49
polyphenol diet mitigating the negative effects of smoking.
1:09:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's all he said was what he observed.
1:09:55
Speaker 2: This is what I think in my years of trying
1:09:58
and using nicotine. I think there's something to nicotine. The
1:10:02
reason why I am backing off of it is it
1:10:05
fucks up my pool game.
1:10:07
Speaker 1: Really?
1:10:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. Nicotine gives you a lot of energy. And, uh,
1:10:10
I think like these, like these Alps, these are like
1:10:13
six milligrams. And then there's Lucy's. I have Lucy's that
1:10:16
are 12, but you put them in your mouth. It's like,
1:10:18
you're sucking on a battery. It's like, it's so strong.
1:10:21
It's ridiculous. Um, they make you jittery and jittery is
1:10:25
not good for pool. Pool is a chill game. Pool
1:10:28
is like, you're concentrating on, But you want to be
1:10:30
completely calm when you're stroking the ball. Like your hand,
1:10:34
you're barely holding on to that cue. I hold on
1:10:36
to the cue like I'm holding a baby bird. It's
1:10:38
very calm. You don't want to be like– So a
1:10:41
lot of people stop drinking coffee because they play pool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:10:45
But nicotine in particular, which is interesting because I know
1:10:50
a lot of people who smoke cigarettes who play really well.
1:10:53
Maybe it's a different feeling in terms of like how
1:10:55
it affects your body than– See, that's a good question.
1:11:00
How much nicotine is in a cigarette versus like one
1:11:05
of these Alp pouches? These Alp pouches is Tucker Carlson's company.
1:11:09
Speaker 1: It probably also has to do with like your level
1:11:11
of addiction. Like some people are.
1:11:13
Speaker 2: Fully, yeah.
1:11:14
Speaker 1: Some people smoke all day, every day. Yeah, they need
1:11:16
cigarettes just to be back to zero.
1:11:17
Speaker 2: John Mellencamp, he was in here. That dude just, that
1:11:19
was like one of the big things. Like, can I
1:11:21
smoke during the podcast? I'm like, absolutely.
1:11:23
Speaker 1: No worries.
1:11:24
Speaker 2: I go, we got a fan. We smoke cigars all
1:11:26
the time. So he just chain smoked the entire podcast.
1:11:29
And he said, find what you love and let it
1:11:31
kill you. That's what he said about cigarette smoking. Oh, yeah.
1:11:34
Speaker 1: That's a– who's that quote from? I don't know.
1:11:38
Speaker 2: Typical nicotine amounts. Okay. Standard factory-made cigarette usually contains about
1:11:43
10 to 14 milligrams of nicotine in tobacco, which an
1:11:46
average smoker absorbs around 1 to 2 milligrams when smoking it.
1:11:50
Nicotine pouches are sold in strengths that commonly range from
1:11:53
2 milligrams up to 12– or more of nicotine per pouch,
1:11:58
CDC notes that they can contain high levels of nicotine.
1:12:02
Pouches that with six milligrams nicotine or less were most common,
1:12:06
but higher strength, eight milligram pouches have been growing quickly. Yeah,
1:12:11
because people are getting addicted. Cigarettes deliver nicotine to the
1:12:14
brain very fast, within 10 to 20 seconds after inhalation,
1:12:18
which makes them highly reinforcing and strongly addictive. Pouches release
1:12:23
nicotine through the lining of the mouth, So the rise
1:12:25
in blood nicotine is slower and more prolonged compared with
1:12:29
a cigarette hit. Though total absorbed dose over 20 to
1:12:33
60 minutes can be similar depending upon strength or how
1:12:36
long the pouch is used. The thing about like pouches
1:12:38
is people just keep popping them. Like Shane, that dude
1:12:41
just pops them every 10 minutes. He's popping six milligrams
1:12:44
like every 10 minutes. Combustible cigarettes are clearly more harmful overall.
1:12:48
Because smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals, many toxic and carcinogenic,
1:12:53
whereas pouches avoid combustion but still expose you to an
1:12:56
addictive drug with cardiovascular effects.
1:12:59
Speaker 1: That's why I'm convinced that people that do all the
1:13:02
other forms of nicotine are way more addicted than smokers are.
1:13:05
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you one thing that I felt was
1:13:07
the most addictive version of it that I tried was vaping.
1:13:12
Those like Escobar things, those are weird. Here's another weird
1:13:16
thing about those vaping ones. The only good hit is
1:13:19
the first hit. Maybe the second of the day.
1:13:24
Speaker 1: Have you seen how vapers act when they can't find
1:13:25
their vape?
1:13:26
Speaker 2: Oh, they freak out.
1:13:28
Speaker 5: It is.
1:13:28
Speaker 1: They get sketchy. It's crazy. They get crazy. I was
1:13:33
in D.C. last year, and I popped in on this
1:13:38
comedy spot. And I go to the bathroom, and there's
1:13:44
a vape sitting on the sink. Like, somebody put a
1:13:46
vape there to wash their hands or something. And I
1:13:49
go out to the bar, and I remember all the comics.
1:13:53
I remember I bought the comics. Like, the comics are
1:13:56
at the bar waiting to go up, and I bought
1:13:57
a round for the comics. And one of them was like, oh, thanks, man.
1:14:01
Got up, went to the bathroom, came back, sat next
1:14:03
to his friend, and was like, oh, bro, I found
1:14:04
this vape in there. And they both hit this vape.
1:14:07
So he took a vape out the bathroom.
1:14:09
Speaker 2: That somebody else was just sucking on. Some guy who
1:14:11
could have been eating ass just 20 minutes ago.
1:14:14
Speaker 1: Also, it was on the sink in the back. In
1:14:16
the men's room at a comedy club. That's crazy.
1:14:19
Speaker 2: I found it. Let's take hits off of it. That's crazy.
1:14:23
Speaker 1: It would be tough if that was my vape and
1:14:25
I set it on the counter. That's probably what happened.
1:14:27
Somebody set it there out of reflex and was like,
1:14:29
I don't want that shit. It's right here with all
1:14:31
this filthy.
1:14:33
Speaker 2: Maybe, or maybe they're like, I got to leave this
1:14:34
thing here.
1:14:35
Speaker 1: This men's room sink water? Nah, you can keep that.
1:14:41
You can keep that.
1:14:43
Speaker 2: These guys are just sucking on it at the bar.
1:14:45
But I guess if you dip it in whiskey, it'd
1:14:47
be all right. Just dip it in your glass before
1:14:49
you take a hit.
1:14:50
Speaker 1: Bro, you could just wait till you get to your vape.
1:14:54
Speaker 2: The first hit is the only one that's good. The
1:14:57
first hit is like euphoric. The first hit of like
1:15:00
an Escobar, you're like this, like, Oh, yeah. Everything's amazing. Oh, yeah.
1:15:05
But you don't get that with a second hit. It doesn't, like, maintain.
1:15:09
After a while, you're just taking hits, and you just
1:15:10
feel nervous. Like, this is terrible. This doesn't feel good.
1:15:14
But it's the first hit. The first hit's wonderful.
1:15:16
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You know how many vapors I've had to
1:15:18
curse out because they unplugged my phone?
1:15:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're plugging their stupid fucking main.
1:15:22
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, what? Yo, you was at 30%. What
1:15:26
the fuck is wrong with you?
1:15:27
Speaker 2: I need it all day.
1:15:28
Speaker 1: Right. Don't unplug my shit.
1:15:30
Speaker 2: Junkies.
1:15:30
Speaker 1: They really are, man. Junkies.
1:15:31
Speaker 2: Oh, they're junkies. I see people hit them all the time.
1:15:34
And they hit them like a fiend.
1:15:36
Speaker 1: And you know the worst thing is the people that
1:15:39
they try to start vaping to replace smoking, they just
1:15:45
end up doing both.
1:15:46
Speaker 2: Well, I think the vaping is more addictive than smoking.
1:15:49
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
1:15:49
Speaker 1: Because you can... You know why? It's because one, like
1:15:51
you said, I think the... You're getting delivered more nicotine
1:15:55
than a smoker will get. Even though, look, smoking has
1:15:59
other bad shit that you're putting in you, you know,
1:16:02
but in terms of addiction is what I'm saying. I'm
1:16:05
not saying vaping is worse for you, but. But you're
1:16:07
getting more nicotine and you can vape in places you
1:16:11
can't smoke.
1:16:12
Speaker 2: And on top of that, you're getting all these weird
1:16:15
oils and chemicals and stuff in there that aren't good
1:16:18
for you.
1:16:18
Speaker 1: But you can vape anytime. Right. You can vape.
1:16:21
Speaker 2: But, you know, people are getting these new diseases like
1:16:23
popcorn lung.
1:16:24
Speaker 1: Have you heard of that? I heard of that, but
1:16:26
I ain't heard of nobody that got it. I've heard like,
1:16:28
you know, it's one of those like. What do you
1:16:31
call them? Urban myths?
1:16:33
Speaker 2: There's a kid that I knew back in California. He
1:16:36
was one of the people in our neighborhood's child. And
1:16:40
he was 19. And he was in college and he
1:16:43
was vaping like crazy. He was vaping all day long.
1:16:46
And he got pneumonia and wound up dying. And they
1:16:49
connected it to the vape. He had destroyed his lungs.
1:16:52
Kids are damaging their lungs.
1:16:54
Speaker 1: I think that started back when... You remember when some
1:16:56
people have the adjustable ones?
1:16:58
Speaker 2: Oh, the big ones.
1:17:00
Speaker 1: Crazy ones. Because now the popular ones are like the
1:17:02
disposable ones.
1:17:03
Speaker 2: Adam Curry has one of them big jammies. Yeah, one
1:17:05
of them big rigs.
1:17:07
Speaker 1: Lunchbox. I think people were going crazy back then. Like
1:17:09
in the beginning of it when nobody knew a lot.
1:17:12
Speaker 2: The real vapors, man, they still go crazy. But they're
1:17:15
doing it themselves. They think it's healthier. They're getting like
1:17:17
their own like nicotine drops. They're putting it in the
1:17:20
thing and they're putting their own oil. They're using like
1:17:22
MCT oil because it's healthy.
1:17:24
Speaker 1: This organic poison. Yeah.
1:17:26
Speaker 2: Whereas like if you're getting it from a factory in
1:17:29
China or Vietnam, have you ever seen that one? There's
1:17:31
one video of a dude who has to test every
1:17:33
vape when it comes out of the factory.
1:17:35
Speaker 1: With his mouth?
1:17:36
Speaker 2: With his mouth. The ones you get have already been
1:17:39
sucked on. So this dude is just sucked in Vietnam.
1:17:41
I don't know where he is. He might be in Laos.
1:17:44
He's just sucking just wherever this vape factory is. This
1:17:47
dude is just sucking on this vape over and over
1:17:50
and over again. Everybody's vape he sucks on once to
1:17:52
make sure it's good before he sends it out. So
1:17:56
this guy has got– what is his dose of caffeine
1:17:59
in a day? It must be off the charts.
1:18:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the other thing. I think vapors are
1:18:04
more addictive because they get more nicotine. They just get
1:18:06
to do it. They just do it all the time.
1:18:08
Speaker 2: Yes, you could definitely do it. But I'm telling you,
1:18:10
it's like you don't get the good feeling. Like it's weird.
1:18:14
Speaker 1: It's weird.
1:18:15
Speaker 2: Like a cigar, like the relaxation, the good nicotine feeling
1:18:18
of a cigar, you get that like every time you
1:18:21
take a hit out of a cigar. That's not the
1:18:24
case with a vape, at least not for me. Look
1:18:26
at this dude. He's sucking on every one of these,
1:18:28
checking them out. Look, that's nuts. They got to make
1:18:32
sure they're good. Like how vaped out is this cat?
1:18:37
Speaker 1: That's probably how that, that's probably what he gets paid
1:18:39
and just vapes, just smoke.
1:18:44
Speaker 2: I mean, how many fucking thousands of vapes is this
1:18:46
kid sucking on in a day? How many do you
1:18:48
test in a day?
1:18:49
Speaker 1: He says.
1:18:51
Speaker 2: Around 7,000 to 8,000 tests per day. Jesus Christ. Does
1:18:56
that dude sleep at all? He probably dreams in horrible
1:19:01
black and white lightning bolts.
1:19:04
Speaker 1: He also smokes after work.
1:19:06
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Someone should see how long that guy lives. Bro,
1:19:10
that boy's artery is done. Yeah, he's not in the
1:19:13
blue zone.
1:19:14
Speaker 1: Not at all, bro.
1:19:16
Speaker 5: I was just looking at popcorn lung.
1:19:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:19:20
Speaker 5: It's older. According to this, it came around 2000 when
1:19:25
people at an actual popcorn factory were exposed to a
1:19:29
chemical that was causing this.
1:19:31
Speaker 8: What?
1:19:31
Speaker 5: Called bronchitis obliterans.
1:19:34
Speaker 2: Bro, look at this. It's first recognized from clusters of
1:19:37
workers at a microwave popcorn factory exposed to the butter-flavoring
1:19:40
chemical diacetyl. Wow. I thought it made your lungs look
1:19:46
like popcorn.
1:19:46
Speaker 5: This is saying it's super rare outside of that.
1:19:50
Speaker 1: Actually, though.
1:19:53
Speaker 2: Cancer researchers UK states that there have been no confirmed
1:19:56
cases of popcorn lung specifically caused by e-cigarettes although some
1:19:59
older e-liquids contain diacetyl before regulations tightened do you think
1:20:04
that's like big tobacco trying to scare people away from vapes.
1:20:07
Speaker 1: No no they no I think they invested in that shit.
1:20:10
Speaker 2: Yeah but if they don't like what if it's like
1:20:13
some companies maybe don't and they're worried that these cheap vapes.
1:20:17
Speaker 1: Well there's only there's only there's only three companies to
1:20:19
big tobacco is really.
1:20:20
Speaker 2: Big tobacco So it's R.J. Reynolds. What are the other ones?
1:20:25
Speaker 1: Philip Morris. Is it Philip Morris? And then there's an
1:20:28
overseas one. Maybe there's four companies.
1:20:30
Speaker 2: Who's making the American Spirits?
1:20:33
Speaker 1: It's the same people.
1:20:34
Speaker 2: It's the same people?
1:20:36
Speaker 1: There's only three or four big tobacco companies.
1:20:38
Speaker 2: This lady, Suzanne Humphries, who's a doctor, she was making
1:20:41
the argument that Those cigarettes are probably not even that
1:20:44
bad for you.
1:20:44
Speaker 1: And they own– and they see the writing on the wall.
1:20:47
Like they own all the patch companies. They own that
1:20:49
shit too. Of course. Of course.
1:20:50
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they?
1:20:51
Speaker 1: Because the writing is on the wall. They were talking
1:20:54
about it in Canada and now I think they're trying
1:20:56
to do it in the UK where basically like people
1:20:59
of a certain age will never be able to buy cigarettes.
1:21:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're doing that in Canada right now.
1:21:05
They're definitely doing that in the UK.
1:21:06
Speaker 1: That's right.
1:21:08
Speaker 2: No, American Spirit cigarettes are not safer than other cigarettes.
1:21:10
Despite marketing that highlights natural and addictive free tobacco, studies
1:21:14
show they contain similar levels of toxic, cancer-causing chemicals as
1:21:18
other brands. Research suggests they may even be more addictive
1:21:22
due to higher nicotine levels. No reduced harm, no evidence
1:21:25
of the absence of additives make cigarette smokes less harmful.
1:21:29
On high nicotine addiction, studies have found that many varieties
1:21:33
have higher nicotine yields compared to other popular brands, suggesting...
1:21:37
Higher addictiveness, misleading marketing. FDA previously required the manufacturers to
1:21:42
stop using natural and additive-free in marketing as these terms
1:21:47
falsely implied lower risk. Why does that imply lower risk
1:21:51
if you say additive-free? Consumer misconception. 64% of American spirit
1:21:56
smokers incorrectly believe they're less harmful, often because of their
1:22:00
natural branding. This lady, this doctor was making that argument.
1:22:03
She was saying the chemicals that they add to cigarettes
1:22:05
that make them more addictive. Like remember that Russell Crowe movie,
1:22:09
The Insider? Remember that movie?
1:22:11
Speaker 1: Good movie.
1:22:12
Speaker 2: It's about a guy who is a– a true story.
1:22:15
About a guy who's a doctor who works at a
1:22:18
tobacco company that makes cigarettes. And he's specifically formulating these
1:22:22
chemicals in order to make people way more addicted. And
1:22:26
then he has to go to court and they try
1:22:27
to kill him. It's like a big kind of whistleblower
1:22:30
type drama. But that was– That was the premise of
1:22:35
that film, which is also based on real life. And
1:22:37
what she's saying is that those chemicals that make you
1:22:39
more addictive are probably much more dangerous and that just
1:22:43
the actual tobacco itself is probably not as dangerous. She
1:22:47
wasn't definitively stating this. She was just saying that most
1:22:50
likely they're probably safer for you.
1:22:53
Speaker 1: Well, the American Spirit ones also you smoke less because
1:22:57
they take forever to smoke. So every time I was
1:23:01
smoking around an American Spirit smoker– You'll see a damn
1:23:05
three-quarters of a cigarette left in the ashtray.
1:23:07
Speaker 2: Do you think that those Marlboros and shit like that,
1:23:11
they smoke quicker on purpose so that you smoke more
1:23:13
of them?
1:23:14
Speaker 1: I think they're something they add to them. Make them
1:23:18
burn faster? Because that's the thing with American Spirit. You
1:23:20
sit it down, it'll go out. Right. But if you
1:23:23
if I if I was the light of Marlboro and
1:23:25
sit it down there, it would burn all the way up. Right.
1:23:28
I think they do that. So you wear cigarettes.
1:23:29
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
1:23:30
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, for sure.
1:23:31
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, because they probably calculate over time
1:23:35
how much money that would be.
1:23:37
Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, I read somewhere like that is why
1:23:40
there are 20 packs in a cigarette and 20 cigarettes
1:23:42
in a pack is because they they discovered that that's
1:23:47
exactly how many you needed to smoke as much as
1:23:50
possible in one day. Like in terms of how long
1:23:53
it's in your system and when you start getting another craving,
1:23:56
you can smoke.
1:23:57
Speaker 2: Well, that's crazy because some people smoke two packs a day,
1:23:59
three packs a day.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, those people are like, oh.
1:24:01
Speaker 3: Animals.
1:24:03
Speaker 2: How are they alive?
1:24:03
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I was getting close.
1:24:06
Speaker 2: What were you at?
1:24:07
Speaker 1: I was at a little over a pack a day
1:24:11
where I would go through a whole pack.
1:24:14
Speaker 2: And then tip into the next pack. And then dip
1:24:16
into the next.
1:24:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:24:18
Speaker 2: It makes sense that they would buy patches. Why wouldn't they?
1:24:21
And why wouldn't they buy up the companies that have
1:24:23
alternatives like gum, Nicorette?
1:24:26
Speaker 1: Years ago, the VA tried to get me to quit
1:24:28
and they, they, they prescribed me the patches.
1:24:31
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:24:32
Speaker 1: But like you, like this, like I said, it's like there's,
1:24:36
there's 12 to 14 milligrams in a, Cigarette, but you
1:24:39
only end up getting one or two.
1:24:40
Speaker 5: Right.
1:24:40
Speaker 1: But the patch is five. The lowest step of the
1:24:43
patch is five.
1:24:44
Speaker 2: And do you feel it? Yeah.
1:24:46
Speaker 1: You have crazy fucking dreams, too.
1:24:49
Speaker 2: Whoa.
1:24:49
Speaker 1: You put one of them patches on before you go
1:24:51
to bed, you're going to have a fucking crazy dream.
1:24:54
And now you're more addicted. Right? Because you're not used
1:24:58
to getting five. Now you're getting five all night. You
1:25:01
wake up like, oh, shit. You're not used to getting
1:25:04
nicotine all night.
1:25:05
Speaker 2: Ron White used to wear a patch and smoke all day.
1:25:08
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's what I was about to tell you. Everybody
1:25:10
I knew that got on the patches was patching and smoking. Yeah.
1:25:13
Speaker 2: Ron was patching and smoking. And then one hypnotism session, quit.
1:25:18
Speaker 1: Everything.
1:25:18
Speaker 2: Cold turkey.
1:25:19
Speaker 1: Really?
1:25:19
Speaker 2: Yep.
1:25:20
Speaker 1: That's weird because he don't seem very suggestible. I know. Right? Yeah.
1:25:24
I mean, I don't think I've ever seen him change
1:25:25
his mind about nothing. About nothing.
1:25:27
Speaker 2: All the arguments that he's had with Tony in the
1:25:29
green room.
1:25:30
Speaker 1: I live for that shit. I live for those moments.
1:25:35
Speaker 2: It was hilarious. Ron digs his heels in.
1:25:38
Speaker 1: As soon as I hear Ron go, well, well. Yeah.
1:25:41
Speaker 2: Well, that's not my experience.
1:25:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:25:44
Speaker 2: He was wearing the patch and he was smoking those
1:25:46
little cigars. You know those little cigars? He was smoking
1:25:50
them like cigarettes. You're supposed to not inhale those little suckers.
1:25:54
Like those little suckers have way more nicotine. You know
1:25:58
those little tiny Monte Cristos, those little things? You're supposed
1:26:00
to smoke those like a cigar. Like when I smoke them,
1:26:03
I try to smoke them like a cigar. You hold
1:26:05
it in your mouth. It's a tiny cigar.
1:26:07
Speaker 1: You can't tell these Texas gentlemen not to smoke nothing.
1:26:12
Speaker 2: Well, Ron has got amazing willpower because he got off
1:26:15
the alcohol and just done. Never touched it again. Got
1:26:19
off the cigarettes, done. Never touched them again.
1:26:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that guy. He's the best. He's the best.
1:26:26
Speaker 2: But it's like that ability to just turn something off
1:26:29
like that. The amount of money.
1:26:31
Speaker 1: How much money?
1:26:32
Speaker 2: Let's look into that. How much money is in the
1:26:35
nicotine business overall in America? It's probably way more now
1:26:40
with pouches and vapes on top of cigarettes.
1:26:44
Speaker 1: I think it's less now.
1:26:45
Speaker 2: But cigarettes have probably been less. But now so many
1:26:48
people are on the pouches. And so many people are vaping.
1:26:52
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, I think there's less money overall.
1:26:57
But that's why there's less companies because they keep getting bought. Right.
1:27:01
Because people are smoking less. The kids are smoking way less.
1:27:05
Speaker 2: Cigarettes.
1:27:06
Speaker 1: Way less cigarettes. And they don't vape as much as
1:27:09
we think.
1:27:09
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of them are on the zins.
1:27:12
A lot of them are on pouches. Let's guess. What
1:27:15
do you think the overall industry of cigarettes or nicotine,
1:27:19
nicotine products in America, the collective amount of money that
1:27:24
nicotine products in America generate every year?
1:27:27
Speaker 1: I'm going to say $ 10 billion. Yeah, that sounds about right.
1:27:32
It's less than $ 10 billion.
1:27:33
Speaker 2: For the whole country? I'll say $ 6 billion. Let's say
1:27:36
$ 6 billion because there's 350 million people plus Mexicans.
1:27:40
Speaker 5: That's just for the oral nicotine.
1:27:44
Speaker 1: How much? $ 6 billion.
1:27:45
Speaker 2: Whoa.
1:27:46
Speaker 5: Cigarettes is.
1:27:48
Speaker 1: Way higher.
1:27:49
Speaker 2: What is cigarettes? 76.
1:27:50
Speaker 5: Billion?
1:27:53
Speaker 1: Billion. Oh, shit. That's more than sports. Bro, that's crazy.
1:27:58
That's more than football. That's crazy.
1:28:00
Speaker 5: It's cigarettes and traditional tobacco, which would include- Like cigars.
1:28:03
Cigars and like the- Speaking of which.
1:28:07
Speaker 1: Okay, but what was it 20 years ago?
1:28:12
Speaker 5: It doesn't have 20 years ago from what I look,
1:28:14
but it has grown. It's growing slowly every year. It's
1:28:19
a total of $ 100 billion when you include everything together.
1:28:21
Speaker 1: That's crazy. But it isn't really crazy because it's one
1:28:26
of the legal and socially acceptable drugs to be on
1:28:31
all day. You can smoke it because you can't even
1:28:34
drink it at work.
1:28:35
Speaker 2: Especially if you use pouches now. Everybody's using pouches.
1:28:38
Speaker 5: They're predicting the pouches are going to go from around
1:28:40
4 to 6 billion now and by 2030 so it's
1:28:45
only 5 to 6 years from now could get up
1:28:47
to 50 billion.
1:28:49
Speaker 2: Well here's the thing they have nootropic benefits like they
1:28:53
do enhance your cognitive performance nicotine does and um There's
1:28:59
a lot of people that swear by them like for
1:29:02
creativity and stuff. One of the things that Stephen King
1:29:04
talked about in that book on writing was that one
1:29:07
of his biggest bumps in the road with his writing
1:29:11
career is when he quit smoking. He's had a really
1:29:13
hard time getting his synapses to fire the same way.
1:29:17
It was really noticeable, the difference in quitting nicotine. But
1:29:22
then again, his best shit he wrote when he was
1:29:24
on coke. He was doing coke and drinking beer.
1:29:27
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:29:28
Speaker 2: And he wrote his best, craziest shit when he was
1:29:30
doing that.
1:29:31
Speaker 1: No, but I'm going to be honest about that, though. Like,
1:29:33
I do feel less creative or less, not less creative,
1:29:40
but less, I don't know. It does feel like, it
1:29:44
feels like my brain is working different.
1:29:47
Speaker 2: What about cigars? You ever thought about cigars? Or you just, like,
1:29:50
think it's too much of a gateway?
1:29:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be right back on it. I'd be
1:29:55
right back on it. Can we get some nicotine drops, Jamie?
1:29:59
You can just shoot it into your fucking eyeballs.
1:30:02
Speaker 2: Do you fuck with the pouches at all? Or do
1:30:03
you worry that the pouches will bring you closer to
1:30:06
the cigarettes?
1:30:06
Speaker 1: No, but I've never fucked with the pouches. I don't know.
1:30:08
Speaker 2: You want to try one?
1:30:10
Speaker 1: This doesn't have nicotine in it. That is no nicotine.
1:30:12
Speaker 2: That's an ultra pouch. Don't do it.
1:30:15
Speaker 1: No, no, no. Maybe the gum. Maybe I'll try the gum.
1:30:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've tried the gum. I like pouches.
1:30:21
Speaker 1: How's that?
1:30:22
Speaker 2: I like pouches better. It's interesting that, like, they would
1:30:28
probably— I wonder how much money is spent. Okay, what is
1:30:32
the patch— what' s the patch worth? Like, how much does that generate?
1:30:36
Speaker 1: You know what's wild? They were trying to give me
1:30:38
nicotine in the hospital. For what? Because they knew I
1:30:41
was a smoker, and they were like, you don't want any?
1:30:44
I was like, no.
1:30:45
Speaker 2: How were they trying to give it to you?
1:30:46
Speaker 1: In what way? I don't know if it was a
1:30:47
pouch or a gum. They have mints, too. But it
1:30:50
had been prescribed to me, and it was just sitting there.
1:30:52
And every time a shift changed, somebody would run me. Hey,
1:30:55
so you know you got some shizzle, right? I was like, no,
1:30:58
I'm okay.
1:31:00
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me some nicotine mints, and they made me nervous.
1:31:03
Speaker 1: I didn't like them.
1:31:04
Speaker 2: They made me feel uncomfortable.
1:31:05
Speaker 1: Tiny slice.
1:31:06
Speaker 2: Okay. Nicotine patches are a tiny slice of the nicotine economy.
1:31:09
The U.S., they amount to at most a few hundred
1:31:11
million dollars per year versus tens of billions for cigarettes
1:31:14
and other nicotine products.
1:31:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what? The reason they still invest
1:31:18
in them is because every time you try to quit
1:31:21
and you use the pouches, when you come back, you're
1:31:23
more addicted.
1:31:23
Speaker 2: Right, right.
1:31:25
Speaker 1: So it's a cycle.
1:31:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insurance that you'll get back on the cigarettes.
1:31:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I bet you they're not– they probably don't
1:31:31
track how many people– What's so funny, Janet?
1:31:34
Speaker 5: Nicotine replacement therapy?
1:31:36
Speaker 1: Therapy.
1:31:37
Speaker 2: The global nicotine replacement therapy market, patches, gum, lozenges, et cetera,
1:31:41
is around 3.1 billion.
1:31:43
Speaker 1: Therapy.
1:31:44
Speaker 5: Just reading that in this room sounds like a weird
1:31:47
conspiracy or something.
1:31:48
Speaker 2: Predicted to reach $ 4. 7 billion by 2034. But it makes
1:31:54
sense that they would invest in that. Why wouldn't they?
1:31:59
It's like they're smart business people.
1:32:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:32:04
Speaker 2: Did you hear about that Special Forces soldier that got
1:32:07
in trouble because he bet on Polymarket that Maduro was
1:32:12
going to be kidnapped.
1:32:14
Speaker 1: Oh, they found out who it was.
1:32:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, they caught the dude.
1:32:17
Speaker 1: Oh, no.
1:32:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, he made I believe he made $ 400, 000 and he
1:32:22
tried to cover his tracks.
1:32:23
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was like Trump's son or something.
1:32:25
People thought it was Trump's son. It was Don Jr.
1:32:28
Speaker 2: Well, who knows what they've done.
1:32:30
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. They probably did it all.
1:32:32
Speaker 2: I mean, they're probably not looking at them the same
1:32:34
way they're looking at these special forces guys.
1:32:35
Speaker 1: Boy, Trump don't leave no crumbs on the table. He's like,
1:32:37
I need all this bread. I'm on the way out.
1:32:39
I still need this bread.
1:32:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, think about that. The coin, the Trump coin.
1:32:43
Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's legal, but it's crazy.
1:32:48
Speaker 2: Melania coin.
1:32:50
Speaker 1: If you buy any celebrity's coins, you deserve to lose
1:32:53
your money.
1:32:56
Speaker 2: But I think what Metzger explained to me, he goes,
1:32:59
these are gambling addicts.
1:33:00
Speaker 1: They're gambling.
1:33:01
Speaker 2: He goes, they know that it's going to crash. No
1:33:03
one's under any illusion that this is going to last forever.
1:33:05
They try to get in and get out and make
1:33:06
money while they're doing it. It's like they just figure
1:33:08
out when to buy and when to sell.
1:33:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are people that think. Those are the suckers.
1:33:14
Those are who you're getting money from. It's the ones
1:33:16
that think it.
1:33:17
Speaker 2: You could look at it that way. Or you could
1:33:19
look at it as this is an effective way to
1:33:22
pay people off legally. So here's the thing. I'm not
1:33:26
accusing anybody of doing this, but I'm saying let's say
1:33:28
if I started a JRE coin and– Maybe some Middle
1:33:33
Eastern government decided they were going to invest $ 500 million
1:33:37
in a JRE coin. And then I announce the JRE coin.
1:33:42
They put in the money to back this JRE coin.
1:33:44
I get a substantial stake in the JRE coins. I
1:33:47
get a bunch of JRE coins. And then I just
1:33:50
dump all my JRE coins. And then I get all
1:33:53
that money. And then it goes from being worth X
1:33:56
amount of dollars to being worth almost nothing.
1:33:58
Speaker 1: Is that the pumping dump?
1:33:59
Speaker 2: That's the pumping. Yeah, so that would be a way
1:34:01
I'd pay you. So like say maybe if you and
1:34:04
I had some sort of a deal that was a
1:34:05
little shady and I said, Brian, how about this? I
1:34:08
can't pay you outright, but what I can do is
1:34:11
why don't you start a crypto coin and I will
1:34:13
invest in your crypto coin, which is a very legal venture.
1:34:17
And I will put in $ 100 million into your crypto coin.
1:34:21
And so now your crypto coin, a bunch of people
1:34:23
will also throw money in because there's $ 100 million in
1:34:26
it and they know that it's going to pump a dump.
1:34:27
It's going to happen like the real clever fuckers. And
1:34:29
then you just get out. So you get out. As
1:34:32
soon as it hits the peak, you get it set
1:34:34
up so that it maybe peaks in 24 hours or
1:34:37
whatever the fuck it is. Again, we're not accusing anybody
1:34:42
of anything. No.
1:34:44
Speaker 1: Nor are we taking notes.
1:34:47
Speaker 2: Let's look at Trump coin. How much was Trump coin
1:34:51
worth right after it came out versus five days later?
1:34:57
So somewhere that money has to go somewhere. And so
1:35:02
if I invested in Brian Simpson coin and then that
1:35:06
money got to the coin was worth, I don't know
1:35:09
what a coin is worth. I don't know what it's worth.
1:35:11
But let's just say it got to its peak and
1:35:13
then you sell and you just dump all your coins.
1:35:16
And so you just rake in a big pile of money,
1:35:19
millions and millions of dollars. And everybody else is like.
1:35:24
The people that were dummies, they don't get anything. And
1:35:27
then me, I didn't expect to get any money. I'm
1:35:30
just trying to bribe you. I'm trying to pay you off.
1:35:32
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is– Does that make sense?
1:35:35
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
1:35:36
Speaker 1: The thing is America is like three-quarters scams. A lot
1:35:39
of scams. And some people sit around complaining about the
1:35:41
scams instead of getting in on them.
1:35:43
Speaker 2: Did you hear what Dr.
1:35:44
Speaker 1: Oz said?
1:35:45
Speaker 2: No.
1:35:45
Speaker 1: Dr.
1:35:45
Speaker 2: Oz works for the government now. They– California has a
1:35:51
big hostile scam going on. You know how Minneapolis and
1:35:55
Minnesota had the daycare scam? California has a bunch of
1:35:58
fake hostels where they're taking care of people. That's what
1:36:01
it is, right? So they shut funding down to 400
1:36:06
of them. Not one of them complained. They're just like, well,
1:36:11
see ya. And so it's his assertion that that's because
1:36:15
they were all scams. So that Nick Shirley guy, the
1:36:18
same guy that investigated– the fraud in Minneapolis. He's investigated
1:36:22
some of the fraud in California. And one of the
1:36:24
things that they found in some of his videos is
1:36:26
like a lot of these businesses are registered to like
1:36:28
a hotel. And like every room in this vacant hotel
1:36:33
is a different office for whatever company. And so each
1:36:37
room in the hotel is raking in money as an
1:36:39
office that's supposed to be working as a hostel or
1:36:43
as some sort of, you know, a rehab center or,
1:36:48
you know, fill in the blank. Do I believe that
1:36:51
Learning centers, all these different kinds of things. And it's
1:36:53
all just government scams, Medicaid scams. Get in on the scam.
1:36:58
Get in on the scam.
1:36:59
Speaker 1: Scamming is the American way.
1:37:01
Speaker 5: Looking at it, how you asked isn't the best way
1:37:03
to look at this. Here's what it said.
1:37:05
Speaker 2: Of course not.
1:37:05
Speaker 5: I'll show you what it says after this, though.
1:37:08
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:37:08
Speaker 2: Trump's official Trump meme coin launched at around one U.S. dollar,
1:37:13
range reported roughly 0.18 to 1.20. And within about five days,
1:37:20
it crashed down from a brief spike near 70 to
1:37:22
75 U.S. dollars down to a high of 30s per coin.
1:37:27
So that's within five days. So it spiked at 75
1:37:31
and then it dropped down to 30. Different data provides
1:37:33
slightly different start points. but they are in the same
1:37:36
general zone. Crypto Analytics notes Trump was launched on January 17, 2025,
1:37:42
initially worth 18 cents per token. So everybody buys in
1:37:46
when that happens. Other coverage and exchange posts describe trading
1:37:50
beginning around $ 1 or about $ 1 within the first hours
1:37:54
after launch. So reasonable takeaway is launch price is 0.2
1:38:00
to 1.0 US dollars per Trump, depending on which exact
1:38:04
tick You chose. So within first hours after launch, the
1:38:08
price skyrocketed from around $ 1 to around $ 75 U.S. So
1:38:14
that's when you want to get out, within the first hours.
1:38:17
Reports the same weekend cite highs near $ 70 to $ 75 U.S.
1:38:21
and a market cap over $ 10 to $ 12 billion. A
1:38:25
finance report on days after launch, trading started around $ 70 U.S.
1:38:28
on Friday. So that's when he's supposed to get out.
1:38:21
Speaker 1: So let me ask this.
1:38:21
Speaker 2: What is it worth now? That's like $ 2 now. Interesting.
1:38:39
So it got as high as $ 74. Well, now you
1:38:42
got to hold on to it.
1:38:44
Speaker 1: Now you're fucked. Just in case.
1:38:45
Speaker 5: There's a little bit more. It's like there's more into
1:38:48
it because it's not the easiest coin to get and
1:38:50
how do you get it and all those kinds of
1:38:51
things come into play. And that's kind of what I
1:38:54
think this sentence is more about.
1:38:56
Speaker 8: Right.
1:38:56
Speaker 2: But if it went to $ 75, somebody must have made
1:39:00
a ton of loot, right?
1:39:02
Speaker 1: Had to.
1:39:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it says. 800,000 wallets, which could be people.
1:39:07
Speaker 2: Collectively lost around $ 2 billion, while the Trump Organization and
1:39:11
partners profited heavily from fees.
1:39:14
Speaker 1: Interesting.
1:39:16
Speaker 2: So this is the thing. That's just that one. What
1:39:19
is the worst pump and dump in crypto coin history?
1:39:22
Speaker 1: Let's look at that.
1:39:23
Speaker 2: Let's find out. Sam Bank from Freed?
1:39:26
Speaker 1: I think it was him.
1:39:27
Speaker 2: Well, I think what he was doing, he said that
1:39:30
if he was left alone, he would have recovered the debt.
1:39:33
And that he had been doing this back and forth.
1:39:35
They just caught him in a moment where this one
1:39:38
guy sold all his coins off to try to crash
1:39:41
him on purpose like his rival. And then he didn't
1:39:44
have the money to cover the spread. And then people
1:39:45
wanted their money out. And then they realized. But he
1:39:48
had been– they all do that apparently. It was what
1:39:52
his– I don't know. But that's what his argument was
1:39:54
I believe is that I think he said that if
1:39:57
he was not– that they didn't interfere with him. Not
1:40:01
only would those coins have gotten the money back, but
1:40:04
they would be profitable today.
1:40:06
Speaker 1: See, I have friends that have profited from it. But
1:40:09
when I hear them talk about it, it's like I
1:40:11
just don't quite understand it fully. I feel exactly the
1:40:14
same way. And I can't put my money in some
1:40:16
shit that I– if I can't articulate how I can
1:40:19
make money, I can't do it. Yeah.
1:40:22
Speaker 2: Not only do I not understand it, I don't trust it. Yeah.
1:40:25
It sounds crazy to me. And the people that try
1:40:28
to talk you into it, they freak me out. Yeah.
1:40:31
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of times they just, no, there's a
1:40:33
new scam. Somebody in my family is getting caught up
1:40:36
with these fucking scammers. But they're finding elderly. It's like
1:40:40
going through the elderly community, a new Ponzi scheme. Oh, no.
1:40:45
And basically they're telling these old folks that they are
1:40:50
joining a crypto exchange. But the crypto isn't real. Oh, no.
1:40:55
So they download this app. And they're telling them, all
1:40:59
you got to do is get up every morning and
1:41:01
make these trades, and you make this much percent of
1:41:06
your money back. And they go, and you know what?
1:41:08
And just so you know it's not a scam, I'm
1:41:10
going to put in a grand for you. I'm going
1:41:13
to put in two, five, I put in five grand
1:41:14
for you. But you don't realize that money's fake, too.
1:41:16
You download the app, they can show you how much
1:41:18
money you want.
1:41:19
Speaker 2: But you can't get that money out.
1:41:21
Speaker 1: So here's how they get you. So they get you
1:41:23
either way. So if you do... The ultimate plan is
1:41:28
to lull you into going like they want you to
1:41:31
they want you to log on every day and see
1:41:33
that number going up and go, oh, shit, I'm gonna
1:41:35
put my money in there so I can make even
1:41:36
more money. Right. That's the ultimate plan. But if you
1:41:41
even if you got suspicious. And you're like, I want
1:41:44
to take my money out. Well, they go, OK, we'll
1:41:46
just send us an early withdrawal fee. So they only
1:41:49
end up getting a little bit of money out of you,
1:41:51
but they still get real money out of you for
1:41:52
no money. And even if you end up getting so
1:41:55
suspicious that you won't even do that, well, they got
1:41:59
you to download this app on your phone. And so
1:42:01
they got your information.
1:42:02
Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
1:42:03
Speaker 1: Most people use the same login credentials across apps, so
1:42:05
you done gave them that as well. Right.
1:42:08
Speaker 2: Or they got your email address. They can sell that.
1:42:10
Speaker 1: And they have your security questions, so they know your
1:42:13
first dog's name and shit like that. So it's like
1:42:16
at the very least, they're getting away with your info. Right.
1:42:19
Or some of your real money, you know, and a
1:42:22
lot of old folks, they hear crypto and they don't
1:42:24
really understand it. So it's easy to convince them that, oh,
1:42:28
it's just something I don't understand. But this app makes
1:42:30
it easy for me.
1:42:31
Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy that the polymarket thing for this special
1:42:35
forces soldier, that he's going to jail for this, but
1:42:39
Congress is allowed to insider trade?
1:42:42
Speaker 1: Oh, bro, bro.
1:42:43
Speaker 2: And that's kind of crazy because you can't. You can't
1:42:47
be sure that the mission to try to overthrow Maduro
1:42:51
is going to be successful, right? So if they're trying
1:42:54
to overthrow Maduro, that's a military operation. They're not always successful.
1:42:58
So if he's gambling on a military operation that he's
1:43:01
about to embark in, he's kind of betting on his
1:43:05
own life.
1:43:06
Speaker 1: Well, I think what they're getting him for is more
1:43:09
that he endangered the mission.
1:43:12
Speaker 2: Really?
1:43:12
Speaker 1: Is that what they're saying? Yeah, because you're– Because if
1:43:19
we're supposed to keep our military movements a secret and
1:43:24
it gets out there that someone keeps on predicting when
1:43:27
we're going to make certain movements, then our enemies will
1:43:29
be watching polymarket for when people bet on.
1:43:32
Speaker 2: That actually makes sense. Is that really the case, Jamie?
1:43:34
What is he in trouble for?
1:43:35
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm reading through the justice.gov thing. What Brian
1:43:40
was saying started to make sense off of here. But
1:43:42
at the bottom, it says the actual charges and the
1:43:44
charges are. Three counts of violating the Commodity Exchange Act each,
1:43:49
which carries a maximum of 10 years. One count of
1:43:51
wire fraud, which is a 20-year max. One count of
1:43:55
unlawful monetary transaction, which is a 10-year max. And what's
1:44:01
the other one? Well, that's only two. It says there's three.
1:44:07
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Because, like, how come no one in Congress
1:44:12
ever gets in trouble?
1:44:13
Speaker 1: They do sometimes. I don't know. When they don't vote correctly. No,
1:44:16
like every year somebody goes down.
1:44:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not insider trading. They get busted for other shit.
1:44:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right for like taking bribes and stuff. Yeah.
1:44:22
Speaker 2: Has anybody ever been busted Congress-wise for insider trading on stocks?
1:44:27
I don't think so. If I guess. There was another
1:44:30
controversy recently. They're accusing Fetterman of doing it.
1:44:33
Speaker 1: But the type of shit the average person goes to
1:44:35
jail for. Oh, my God.
1:44:37
Speaker 2: What?
1:44:37
Speaker 1: You want to talk about something that'll piss you off
1:44:40
about somebody going to jail? Yeah. This guy in Florida,
1:44:42
what was his name?
1:44:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, a few people have for sure.
1:44:44
Speaker 8: Really?
1:44:45
Speaker 2: Congress people? For insider trading?
1:44:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, even recently.
1:44:48
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
1:44:49
Speaker 5: It says rep from New York, Chris Collins, pled guilty
1:44:53
in 2019 to insider trading and lying after tipping his
1:44:55
son about a failed drug trial, 26 months in prison,
1:44:57
T-Mobile stock purchase.
1:45:00
Speaker 1: Definitely no senators, though.
1:45:02
Speaker 2: Well, these are people that nobody knows. Look at these people.
1:45:05
This ain't Nancy Pelosi.
1:45:06
Speaker 5: 2020 scandal.
1:45:10
Speaker 2: So occasionally.
1:45:11
Speaker 1: No powerful people are going to prison for that shit.
1:45:14
Martha Stewart's the most powerful person that ever went to jail.
1:45:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she didn't even go to jail for that.
1:45:19
She went to jail for lying. 78 members have been arrested.
1:45:22
Speaker 5: Not arrested, but all violated the Stock Act.
1:45:25
Speaker 2: Interesting, which requires reporting financial trades within 45 days. Maybe
1:45:30
that's just because they tried to hide it and everybody
1:45:32
else is just like, oh, I just made a good bet.
1:45:34
Speaker 1: They're saying just in this Congress.
1:45:36
Speaker 5: In April, three candidates were fined by CalChief for allegedly.
1:45:42
Speaker 1: Whatever.
1:45:42
Speaker 2: Political insider trading by betting on their own races. But
1:45:45
wait a minute. You can't bet on your own race?
1:45:48
That seems crazy. Like if you think you're going to win?
1:45:51
You don't know if you're going to win. No one knows.
1:45:53
Speaker 1: But you're probably the first one to know which way
1:45:55
it's going to go.
1:45:56
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I don't think those polls
1:46:01
are ever correct. That's not true. They must be somewhat correct.
1:46:05
Speaker 5: Well, in that case, they were suspended from Cal Shee,
1:46:07
so I don't know.
1:46:08
Speaker 1: That they got in trouble for that. So, Joe, check
1:46:10
this shit out. This is going to get under your skin.
1:46:12
So this dude, Michael Martin in Florida, he– he, he
1:46:18
made an addition to his house, a million dollar addition
1:46:21
to his house. It got approved by the city and everything.
1:46:25
And after he put it up, his neighbors complained. They
1:46:31
went and dug up some like hundred year old statute and,
1:46:37
and complain.
1:46:37
Speaker 5: Right.
1:46:38
Speaker 1: And they, they, so they take them to court and
1:46:40
his argument is, well, it got approved by the city. Like,
1:46:43
that's why I built it. Right. So fuck them. But
1:46:47
he but he compromised already. He compromised and he he
1:46:50
put up a thing to block his view so it
1:46:53
wouldn't bother them.
1:46:54
Speaker 2: OK.
1:46:55
Speaker 1: And that wasn't good enough for them. So then the
1:46:58
judge ended up ordering him to tear it all down. Oh,
1:47:01
my God. And he refused. And now he's still in jail.
1:47:05
He's still in jail right now. Oh, my God. For
1:47:07
contempt of court.
1:47:08
Speaker 2: Is this a homeowners association thing?
1:47:11
Speaker 1: No, it's just his neighbor. No, because everything was approved.
1:47:15
It got approved by the HOA. It got approved by
1:47:17
the city and everything. And he spent all his money.
1:47:18
He spent all his money, built it up, and then
1:47:20
his neighbor had a problem with it.
1:47:22
Speaker 2: Oh, his neighbor's a piece of shit. And now the
1:47:23
judge wants him to tear it down. Can you imagine
1:47:25
your neighbor wanting you to take down an addition to
1:47:28
your house?
1:47:28
Speaker 1: Why do you give a fuck? If I'm going to
1:47:32
jail over that, I'm going to whoop your ass. I'm
1:47:34
going to at least be in there for something.
1:47:36
Speaker 2: That's so crazy that people can take someone to court
1:47:39
for doing something to their house. Like, what does it
1:47:41
matter to you? Is it affecting your view? Like, what
1:47:44
is it?
1:47:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's one of those things where it's like, technically,
1:47:47
I think the argument you can make is that I
1:47:50
bought this house because the forest was right there, and
1:47:54
he's chopping down the forest. Is that what he's doing, though? No,
1:47:57
that's not what he's doing. But it's like, I don't know.
1:47:59
And I forget what the statute is that they found.
1:48:01
His name was Michael Martin. But they found some old-ass technicality, right,
1:48:07
that the city didn't even know about because they approved it.
1:48:09
Speaker 2: You would hate that neighbor forever if that guy made
1:48:13
you take down your addition that you spent 200 grand
1:48:16
building up.
1:48:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's my thing. It's like, how is the
1:48:18
judge– how can you tell a man, fuck your million dollars? Right, right.
1:48:23
That's what's crazy to me.
1:48:24
Speaker 2: And you got approved by the city, and he can't
1:48:27
appeal that?
1:48:28
Speaker 1: I don't know.
1:48:29
Speaker 5: That's what he's going to– he's in jail while it's
1:48:31
being appealed, and that's what his lawyer is like.
1:48:33
Speaker 1: He's– No, because here's the thing. He can get out
1:48:34
of jail anytime he wants.
1:48:36
Speaker 2: All he has to do is tear down the addition.
1:48:37
Speaker 1: He has to tear down the addition.
1:48:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he's appealing, why would he tear down
1:48:41
the addition? And then if he wins the appeal, he
1:48:43
builds it back up again, and then the guy appeals
1:48:44
the appeal.
1:48:45
Speaker 5: It's also said that demo is going to cost.
1:48:48
Speaker 2: $ 800, 000. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This fucking cunt neighbor.
1:48:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about being funny.
1:48:54
Speaker 2: What is the specifics, though?
1:48:55
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
1:48:56
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the neighbor's right.
1:48:58
Speaker 5: I'm looking to see how it went down.
1:48:59
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:49:00
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:49:01
Speaker 2: Because what could the neighbor have any– how could that
1:49:06
make sense?
1:49:07
Speaker 5: It's starting off. It said the lawyer for a Tampa
1:49:09
couple who asked a judge to find their neighbor in
1:49:12
contempt of court over a disputed guest house says there's
1:49:15
more to the story than we first brought you.
1:49:17
Speaker 1: Of course.
1:49:18
Speaker 2: There's always more to the story. Is he growing shrimp
1:49:20
back there? I'm trying to read it. It's not sharing?
1:49:25
My old neighborhood, there was this guy who built a house,
1:49:28
and it was just– kind of flat just a flat
1:49:30
it was kind of boring it was like just a
1:49:33
it was just like not creative the guy was a
1:49:36
builder he wasn't much of an architect and I don't
1:49:38
think he hired an architect he just had his own
1:49:40
idea to how to build a house but he got
1:49:41
permits and he did it but I remember my neighbor
1:49:44
complaining and he's like you believe this guy built this
1:49:46
fucking house I'm like what is the big deal and
1:49:49
he's like you don't think that's an eyesore I go
1:49:51
well it's boring it's a boring house like what do
1:49:54
you care I just didn't understand it but he wanted
1:49:56
to like start complaining and get a bunch of people
1:49:59
to File a complaint about this guy's house.
1:50:01
Speaker 5: Local news site.
1:50:03
Speaker 2: The location will allow the occupant of the guest house
1:50:06
to peer into the backyard and pool area of the
1:50:09
Babbitt's home.
1:50:10
Speaker 5: Oh.
1:50:11
Speaker 2: Martin subsequently removed any windows facing the Babbitt's property and
1:50:14
installed bamboo along the property line to obstruct the view
1:50:17
of the guest house.
1:50:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were mad that you could see into their house.
1:50:22
Speaker 2: To their yard where their pool is.
1:50:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how it started. That was the initial complaint.
1:50:26
But there's 500 filings. That they've had over five years
1:50:30
over this.
1:50:32
Speaker 1: Oh, God.
1:50:32
Speaker 5: 1924 original subdivision said it was public space or supposed
1:50:35
to be public space or.
1:50:36
Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah.
1:50:39
Speaker 2: 1924.
1:50:39
Speaker 1: They went and found a 1924 statute.
1:50:43
Speaker 5: They're saying that the company he hired that got the
1:50:46
approval did that illegally. And that's their claim, I guess.
1:50:50
And it all has to do with, yeah, that's... So.
1:50:54
Speaker 2: Martin signed a contract with a demolition company and needs
1:51:00
to pay $ 392, 372. 50 to Dynamite Demolition. What a great name.
1:51:03
I want to get a t-shirt. Dynamite Demolition. To begin
1:51:07
tearing down the structures, Judge Nash rejected them until last week,
1:51:11
finding Martin in contempt and ordering a writ of bodily attachment,
1:51:15
which orders all law enforcement to take Martin into custody
1:51:18
and take him to jail. No one is above the law,
1:51:21
McLaren said. So we just want the court's ruling to
1:51:24
be complied with, and that's it.
1:51:27
Speaker 1: Boy. But somebody being able to see into your pool
1:51:29
is wild for you to really go through this much trouble.
1:51:33
Speaker 2: She said, oh, so this general contractor, Julie McGill, is
1:51:36
one of the several outside contractors and developers. I asked
1:51:39
to evaluate the case. She says she can't remember a
1:51:42
time when a judge told the city that it didn't
1:51:44
follow its own code on neighborhood conformity.
1:51:48
Speaker 1: Wow. But see, Mr. Martin, Mr. Martin, you fucking up
1:51:51
the game. You know what you got to do, man?
1:51:53
You know what you got to do, Mr. Martin? Just comply. OK,
1:51:57
because you're not going to win like this. Do what
1:51:59
they say. Pay the money. Tear it down. I'm guessing
1:52:01
you got the money. If you've been in a million
1:52:03
dollar guest house with a pickleball court and a pool
1:52:05
just for your guests, you got the bread. Pay that bread.
1:52:08
And then you take the money you save from not
1:52:11
being caught up in all of these lawsuits. OK, and
1:52:14
you spend it on revenge. you hire the most cold
1:52:18
blooded fucking creative people you can think of and you
1:52:23
you make this person's life miserable in all the legal
1:52:26
ways possible in all the ways where he knows it's
1:52:28
you and he can't do shit about it you hire
1:52:31
a bunch of college students you get him a prize
1:52:34
for whoever finds any statute that can fuck this man's
1:52:37
life up that's what you do don't sit in jail
1:52:40
you cannot take any revenge that cost you something it's
1:52:44
gotta be pure delight You know, it's got to be
1:52:47
served cold. That's what they're saying. The convenience is best
1:52:49
served cold. It's like you have to take care with
1:52:51
the dish. You can't just react emotionally.
1:52:53
Speaker 2: It would be weird, though, if you always had a
1:52:56
backyard where your pool didn't face anybody and then all
1:52:58
of a sudden a dude put a house right behind
1:53:00
your pool.
1:53:01
Speaker 1: Put up a gazebo, motherfucker.
1:53:02
Speaker 2: I'm reading more.
1:53:03
Speaker 5: That's not exactly what it was. It says there was
1:53:05
already– they put together some lots to make one bigger
1:53:07
lot and there was already something on that. And so
1:53:13
when he bought it, they're like, well, we don't see
1:53:14
any problem with fixing that, changing how it looked.
1:53:16
Speaker 2: And that might be what he did.
1:53:18
Speaker 1: But here's also the thing, though, Joe. He offered to block,
1:53:22
like put up a wall and block the– They.
1:53:25
Speaker 2: Have no windows.
1:53:26
Speaker 7: Yeah.
1:53:26
Speaker 2: Put up bamboo.
1:53:27
Speaker 1: And I feel like if it's a good neighbor, that's reasonable.
1:53:31
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:53:31
Speaker 1: That's a reasonable compromise to go, oh, you know, I
1:53:33
didn't even think about the– I can see into your house.
1:53:35
We'll just knock the windows out. That feels like, instead
1:53:38
of being like, no, I want you to waste a
1:53:40
million dollars. Right. Fuck. To me, that's when you became
1:53:44
the bad guy. When he offered a reasonable compromise and
1:53:46
you said, fuck no, then fuck you.
1:53:48
Speaker 2: Fuck you.
1:53:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck you. I'm telling you right now, they lucky
1:53:51
it's not me with a million dollars. Because I'm Batman now.
1:53:53
I'm Batman and you the Joker. And I'm going to
1:53:55
spend my whole, I'm going to live my life as
1:53:59
though that's true. Yeah.
1:54:01
Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
1:54:02
Speaker 1: I'm going to tear it down. I'm going to sell
1:54:03
the house. I'm going to use all the money from
1:54:05
selling this house. I'm going to use all that money
1:54:07
to make your life hard. You know what I'm saying?
1:54:10
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:54:10
Speaker 1: I'm going to pay people to break in your house.
1:54:12
Speaker 2: That's illegal. Don't do that.
1:54:14
Speaker 1: That's illegal.
1:54:15
Speaker 2: You don't want to pay. Don't do illegal things.
1:54:17
Speaker 1: Let a crackhead do it.
1:54:18
Speaker 2: But that's illegal still.
1:54:19
Speaker 1: Okay.
1:54:20
Speaker 2: Cracking will rat you out, too. Then you'll be in jail.
1:54:22
Speaker 1: Cut your internet line. Wait till you call the repair shop.
1:54:24
Speaker 2: That's illegal, too.
1:54:25
Speaker 1: Have them throw dead mice in the back of your vents.
1:54:27
Speaker 2: You can't have it be illegal. It's got to be legal. Right.
1:54:29
Speaker 1: It can't be illegal.
1:54:30
Speaker 2: It must be legal.
1:54:31
Speaker 1: But I just can't think of anything legal right now.
1:54:33
Speaker 2: Well, you can sue people for all kinds of stupid
1:54:35
shit and just make them go through legal problems.
1:54:38
Speaker 1: Don't sue. Just have people outside with a tape measure.
1:54:40
If they're a centimeter from the curb, call the cops.
1:54:46
Straight neighbor wars.
1:54:47
Speaker 2: Neighbor wars are real, man. People kill each other over
1:54:50
neighbor wars.
1:54:50
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. The Hatfields and the McCoys.
1:54:52
Speaker 2: Ancient. Yeah. I think that was over some other shit.
1:54:57
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than living beside somebody like this. No.
1:55:02
It's completely unreasonable, completely unable to compromise.
1:55:05
Speaker 2: Nice neighbors are beautiful.
1:55:07
Speaker 1: Oh, man.
1:55:07
Speaker 2: You have good neighbors, it's great. I have nice neighbors.
1:55:10
And I have nice neighbors in California, too.
1:55:13
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. It doesn't take much to be
1:55:15
a good neighbor. You have to be thoughtful. And in
1:55:20
the times that you're not thoughtful, when it's brought to
1:55:22
your attention, you have to have the appropriate amount of shame. Well,
1:55:26
here it goes.
1:55:26
Speaker 2: Stolen hog. It was over a stolen hog? Illicit romance
1:55:31
and longstanding judges. Two neighboring families in the backwoods of Appalachia.
1:55:35
So here's the thing about that, though. I think this
1:55:40
is from Malcolm Gladwell's book. I forget whose book it's on.
1:55:45
But there was a book where they explained That what
1:55:48
had happened– I believe it's Malcolm Gladwell. Was he explaining
1:55:51
that the reason why the people in Appalachia are so
1:55:54
violent is because they come from herding populations in Europe.
1:55:58
And so herders in Europe are very different than farmers
1:56:01
because if herders– someone can come along and steal all
1:56:03
your sheep and you're fucked. You can't really steal all
1:56:06
someone's corn. It takes forever. You got to chop it down.
1:56:09
You know what I mean? So these people were used
1:56:12
to defending their animals with violence because people would come
1:56:16
in and try to steal them. Yes, Malcolm Gladwell. Yeah, Outliers.
1:56:20
That's the book. Chapter six, Hatfield-McCoy feud is analyzed as
1:56:24
a prime example of a culture of honor, where similar
1:56:27
to the findings in this Reddit thread, ancestral herding roots
1:56:31
forced rapid, brutal retaliation for insults to maintain reputation. This
1:56:36
cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove generations of conflict. So
1:56:41
culture of honor, Gladwell argues that families descending from Scottish
1:56:45
and Irish herders brought a culture of honor to the
1:56:48
Appalachian Mountains. In these regions, law enforcement is weak and
1:56:52
survival depends on establishing a reputation for strength and prompt,
1:56:56
often violent, retaliation against slights. Yeah, that makes sense.
1:57:00
Speaker 1: What was the name of the book, though?
1:57:02
Speaker 2: Outliers. Fucking great book. It's a really good book. Yeah,
1:57:06
I haven't read it, though. It's really good. It talks
1:57:09
about why people are successful. One of the more interesting
1:57:13
things is about the Beatles. In the Beatles, it talks
1:57:16
about how they got this gig in Hamburg, Germany, where
1:57:20
they were performing every fucking day. Every day. They were
1:57:24
doing multiple sets every day. And they did it for
1:57:26
like a few years. And then they went back to
1:57:29
Liverpool and everybody's like, what the fuck happened with you guys? Like,
1:57:33
how did you get so good? And they got so
1:57:35
good because they were just performing all the time. I
1:57:37
think it was at a strip club. I think it
1:57:39
was something crazy like that. Like they were performing music
1:57:42
at a strip club, like something weird. And because of that,
1:57:47
they were just getting reps, like crazy reps. And I
1:57:51
think that's the key to like almost anything, almost anything.
1:57:54
And this is the argument in Outliers. It's like the 10,000
1:57:58
hours of mastery, like that argument.
1:58:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, but wasn't– the 10,000 hours is– it's not exactly
1:58:05
what he said, right?
1:58:06
Speaker 2: No, it's a rough– because there's other obviously people that
1:58:09
are savants well i.
1:58:11
Speaker 1: Know i think he um he modified it because he
1:58:14
talked about it's it's not about the amount of time
1:58:20
as much as it's about the the Behind the quality
1:58:23
of practice. Right. So, like, intentional directed practice.
1:58:27
Speaker 2: Which would be, like, performing on stage.
1:58:29
Speaker 1: Exactly.
1:58:30
Speaker 2: For all those. Where is, what were they doing in Hamburg, Germany, Jamie?
1:58:33
Were they, were they at, were they at a, was
1:58:38
it a strip club? Something like that.
1:58:40
Speaker 5: It said they played in clubs and strip bars.
1:58:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:58:44
Speaker 5: So, there's a lot of places, I guess.
1:58:45
Speaker 2: So, they were just going off. They were just, like,
1:58:47
doing as many sets as they can. Which is the
1:58:49
same with comedy.
1:58:50
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:58:50
Speaker 2: Everybody that we know that really progressed rapidly, they did
1:58:54
as many sets as possible. They're hopping all over the place.
1:58:57
Like guys in our club, like Ari Matty, for instance,
1:59:00
that fucking dude, he'll go up at the sunset. He'll
1:59:03
go over here, go there, go there. It doesn't show
1:59:05
at the mothership. He's just in it.
1:59:07
Speaker 1: He's in it. All day.
1:59:10
Speaker 2: And when you're doing that, you just get better quicker.
1:59:12
Speaker 1: Just get better and better.
1:59:13
Speaker 2: And those dudes that we know that do a set
1:59:15
a week, come in, drop in, do 15 minutes. That's it.
1:59:19
You don't see them again for another week. They kind
1:59:21
of like get stale, stay flat.
1:59:24
Speaker 1: They get stagnant.
1:59:25
Speaker 2: They get stagnant.
1:59:25
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:59:26
Speaker 2: Whereas the Beatles just got after it and then all
1:59:29
of a sudden, love, love may do. They just got smooth,
1:59:33
you know, which makes sense. That's the case with everything though.
1:59:37
With like everything you do, like you don't want a
1:59:39
surgeon that does brain surgery once a year. You know,
1:59:41
you want a guy who's like in it.
1:59:43
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:59:43
Speaker 2: He's in it all day. He's fucking studying journals and
1:59:47
practicing with robots.
1:59:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm trying to be your third brain that day.
1:59:51
That's right. Yeah.
1:59:52
Speaker 2: You don't want to be the fifth brain, though.
1:59:54
Speaker 1: It gets tired.
1:59:54
Speaker 6: No.
1:59:55
Speaker 1: Yo, you know, the funny thing is I just saw
1:59:57
something about– they did a– he did a study at
2:00:01
a courthouse where– and they found that judges– whenever the
2:00:08
judges had– like how harsh of a sentence you received
2:00:14
was directly related to how long it had been since
2:00:17
the judge ate something.
2:00:19
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I've seen that before. Yeah. I've seen that.
2:00:22
Speaker 1: That's crazy as hell. That's crazy. It's enough. It's statistically significant.
2:00:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:00:29
Speaker 1: Yeah. Which makes sense. Cranky.
2:00:31
Speaker 2: Or if the judge is getting no pussy, maybe he's
2:00:34
going through a divorce. Maybe his wife fucked her trainer.
2:00:37
Speaker 1: God damn it.
2:00:38
Speaker 2: Fuck you.
2:00:39
Speaker 1: Give me the hot judge right after breakfast.
2:00:42
Speaker 2: What if you come in and you're a personal trainer
2:00:44
too and you're dealing with some shit? The judge is like, my.
2:00:47
Speaker 1: Wife just fucked her trainer, you piece of shit.
2:00:51
Speaker 2: Some people get real petty like that. They don't give
2:00:53
a fuck about doing the right thing.
2:00:57
Speaker 1: Oh, hell no.
2:00:58
Speaker 2: No, they just want to feel power. Fuck people over.
2:01:02
Fuck you. Fuck all trainers.
2:01:05
Speaker 1: Well, you know, another thing I just found out about is...
2:01:10
I think that the country's Anguela, right, Jamie? They... They, um,
2:01:18
so you know how, you know how like in America,
2:01:20
the websites are all. com. Yeah. In Russia, it's like. ru. Right.
2:01:25
In Anguela, it's. ai. Oh. Which didn't used to mean shit,
2:01:31
but now.
2:01:32
Speaker 2: Now it's worth some money.
2:01:33
Speaker 1: Now they're making so much money selling domains that it's
2:01:37
like half of their money.
2:01:39
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
2:01:41
Speaker 1: It's completely changed the economy.
2:01:43
Speaker 2: Oh, that's crazy because it seems like you're legit if
2:01:45
you have like. Perplexity.ai.
2:01:47
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Right. So anything.ai, they got to pay these people. Oh, wow.
2:01:52
Speaker 5: Yeah.
2:01:53
Speaker 2: Well, there's so many domains now.
2:01:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, just from something we didn't used to think meant anything.
2:01:56
Speaker 2: Because it used to be like you only had. com and. net.
2:02:02
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You know? You never know what the– like, bro,
2:02:05
somebody just held up a– because I'm on– one of
2:02:08
the subreddits I be on is called Why Would You
2:02:12
Touch That or What Is This? And usually the same
2:02:16
posts are on both because people are like, what is
2:02:19
this thing? And then also, why are you touching it?
2:02:24
So I just saw one recently, but somebody held up
2:02:27
a thing and they were like, what does this OF mean?
2:02:32
And it was like, but it was from, so you
2:02:36
know Tyler, the creator?
2:02:37
Speaker 2: Yes.
2:02:37
Speaker 1: So when he first came out, his group was called
2:02:40
Our Future. So this was way before OnlyFans. Okay. And
2:02:44
so if you saw OF, you know, before seven years ago,
2:02:48
it meant, that's what it meant. Right. And so it
2:02:50
was one of their, like, stickers or promo things or
2:02:53
something like that. But this was a young kid. He
2:02:54
found it in an attic or something. He didn't know
2:02:56
what the fuck it meant. He was like, why is it?
2:02:58
Because he knew how old it was. So he was like,
2:03:00
it can't be OnlyFans. What is this? Right. Yeah, and
2:03:03
it's like, changes all the time. These motherfuckers, they got this.
2:03:07
Speaker 2: Ai.
2:03:08
Speaker 1: They never thought, nobody thought they would make any fucking
2:03:10
money off of it. Right.
2:03:12
Speaker 2: Well, there's other ones like that, too, that are kind
2:03:15
of interesting. There's a bunch of different ones. I'm trying
2:03:18
to remember some of them. But some of them are like. biz.
2:03:23
Where'd that come from? I don't know.
2:03:24
Speaker 1: What is that?
2:03:26
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they have that. They have. biz
2:03:28
for some.
2:03:29
Speaker 1: I remember back when that used to mean something. We
2:03:31
used to have.
2:03:32
Speaker 2: Org.
2:03:33
Speaker 1: I think. edu is still a thing.
2:03:35
Speaker 2: Remember when people sell websites for a lot of money
2:03:38
so people would buy a bunch of domains? And hold
2:03:41
on to them like business. I think business.com sold for
2:03:44
a ton of money.
2:03:45
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:03:46
Speaker 1: But now I think it's hard to do that now.
2:03:48
Speaker 2: Yeah. What kind of business do you have that people
2:03:50
are just looking up business.com? Why is that even worth anything?
2:03:53
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
2:03:54
Speaker 2: That's like eating.com is worth money.
2:03:56
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember back when Whitehouse.com was
2:03:59
a porn site. Was it? The actual site, it's always
2:04:03
been Whitehouse.gov. But that was back when people didn't know.
2:04:07
So whenever anyone was looking for the White House, they
2:04:09
go whitehouse.com, they go to this porn site.
2:04:11
Speaker 2: Do you know what Red Band did?
2:04:12
Speaker 1: No.
2:04:12
Speaker 2: Do you know the Pepsi Spice thing?
2:04:14
Speaker 5: No.
2:04:16
Speaker 1: What is Pepsi Spice?
2:04:17
Speaker 2: One of Red Band's greatest trolls was he bought pepsispice.com.
2:04:24
So Pepsi Spice was a type of Pepsi that came out.
2:04:28
And so Red Band bought pepsispice.com, and then he started
2:04:32
documenting how– He was drinking Pepsi spice and he was
2:04:36
having bloody diarrhea. That's all he was drinking.
2:04:39
Speaker 1: He was dying.
2:04:39
Speaker 2: He was getting cancer. It's like the fucking craziest thing.
2:04:43
I mean, 14 years ago. So play the full screen.
2:04:47
Speaker 7: 169.
2:04:50
Speaker 2: So he's losing weight?
2:04:51
Speaker 6: Hi, this is Brian from pepsispice.com. A lot of people
2:04:56
wouldn't believe me, so that's why I'm making this video.
2:04:59
My pee has actually turned not yellow, not white, but
2:05:04
it's very red. And I'm not making this shit up.
2:05:09
That's why I'm filming using this Canon camera, the S4
2:05:16
megapixel camera.
2:05:19
Speaker 1: That's how old this is.
2:05:21
Speaker 7: So he's like pretending that his pee's bloody.
2:05:35
Speaker 1: Oh, this guy. He's so silly.
2:05:37
Speaker 2: He just kept doing it like it got worse and
2:05:39
worse and worse. And eventually Pepsi Spice bought it from him.
2:05:43
Speaker 1: The hardest part to believe about that video was the
2:05:44
170 pounds.
2:05:46
Speaker 2: Oh, he was really skinny at one point in time.
2:05:48
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.
2:05:49
Speaker 2: Brian, at one point in time, got real heavy and
2:05:52
then went on a crazy fitness kick. He got, like,
2:05:56
a stair climber in his house, and he was fucking
2:05:58
riding that bitch every day, and he lost a ton
2:06:00
of weight. And he had a photo of him, like,
2:06:02
with his old jeans. This is a Pepsi spice project.
2:06:08
Speaker 1: Pepsi spice project. Yeah. He's so silly.
2:06:13
Speaker 2: But this one, man, he committed a lot of fucking
2:06:16
time to this. It was very funny. I remember reading
2:06:19
it and dying laughing. I'm like, you're so ridiculous.
2:06:22
Speaker 1: Well, you know, if Red Band decides fuck you, he
2:06:27
can really elevate to like a 50 cent level of-
2:06:31
Of pettiness? Oh, yeah.
2:06:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this wasn't even fuck you. This is just
2:06:34
him having fun.
2:06:35
Speaker 1: Did they come after him?
2:06:37
Speaker 2: I think eventually they did. But the thing was, like,
2:06:39
they were too stupid to buy PepsiSpice.com when they had PepsiSpice.
2:06:45
Speaker 1: Like, you got to buy that. Like, who the fuck?
2:06:47
Speaker 2: You should fire somebody. Somebody in your organization is slipping
2:06:50
because he didn't know that PepsiSpice was going to be
2:06:52
a thing.
2:06:53
Speaker 1: Until after you released it.
2:06:54
Speaker 2: So the fact that you knew that you were going
2:06:56
to release PepsiSpice and you didn't buy up PepsiSpice.com is
2:06:59
kind of crazy.
2:07:00
Speaker 1: That is kind of crazy. Kind of ridiculous.
2:07:02
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:07:03
Speaker 2: That's just shitty planning. That's whoever works for, they deserve
2:07:06
whatever he did.
2:07:09
Speaker 8: Yeah.
2:07:10
Speaker 1: I tried to, when I tried to get, cause all
2:07:11
my social media stuff is BS and I tried to
2:07:14
get BS.com or it was BS comedian.com or something like that.
2:07:19
And then they, if somebody already owns it, it was
2:07:21
like a, like a Canadian improv group or something. Oh, interesting.
2:07:26
And they, I was like, well, I'll buy it from you.
2:07:29
And the price they said was so crazy that I
2:07:32
was like, How much? I want to say they asked
2:07:35
for like $ 10, 000 or something. And this was back when
2:07:39
I– that was– like I wouldn't pay that now, but
2:07:42
back then I didn't even have it. Right. I was like, what? $ 10, 000
2:07:46
is crazy for a website. Because it wasn't like they
2:07:50
were doing tons of business through this website.
2:07:52
Speaker 2: Were they using it at all? How much would you
2:07:54
have paid for it?
2:07:55
Speaker 1: Back then?
2:07:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:07:56
Speaker 1: I would have gave them $ 1, 000.
2:07:58
Speaker 2: $ 1, 000. If they said $ 2, 000, no way?
2:08:01
Speaker 1: Maybe. Maybe $ 1, 500 would have been best and final.
2:08:05
Speaker 2: I think today, though, all anybody does is do a
2:08:08
search of your name, and then they find your website.
2:08:10
Like if Sony wants to find your website, they just
2:08:12
search and it's right there. Oh, yeah.
2:08:15
Speaker 1: But part of me always wants everything to be the same.
2:08:18
And it ended up not being that way anyway because
2:08:20
my TikTok is a different thing than everything else. Everything
2:08:22
is BS Comedian except that.
2:08:24
Speaker 2: It's interesting that you have TikTok. Don't you worry about
2:08:26
the terms of service, like all the access they have
2:08:29
to your phone and access to computers around your network.
2:08:31
Speaker 1: And all that shit? The Chinese?
2:08:33
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
2:08:34
Speaker 1: I mean.
2:08:34
Speaker 2: Well, now it's not the Chinese anymore now.
2:08:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like, you know,
2:08:37
for me, I've never.
2:08:38
Speaker 2: Now it's the Ellisons.
2:08:39
Speaker 1: I've never... Because once Edward Snowden told us what was up,
2:08:44
I'm like, they all... Who gives a fuck? I care
2:08:47
who's spying. I'm getting spied on no matter what I'm doing.
2:08:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:08:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the Chinese going to do to me? They're
2:08:52
going to be like, oh, he's... Basically, they have everything...
2:08:54
He's jerking off again.
2:08:55
Speaker 2: That you've ever done, and they only use it if
2:08:58
they catch you. So if they're looking for something, like
2:09:01
say if you run for Congress... And you do some
2:09:04
insider trading. You do something shitty and they come after you.
2:09:06
Then they go, oh, Brian, it's interesting because we have
2:09:09
a voicemail that you left on someone's– when you were talking.
2:09:14
Speaker 1: About a crime. They got that shit though.
2:09:16
Speaker 2: They already got it. Somebody got arrested today from Fauci's administration. See,
2:09:23
that's why– to avoid Freedom of Information Act requests. So
2:09:37
he was using Gmail instead of, this is allegedly, I
2:09:40
don't know what the reality of all this is, obviously,
2:09:43
but I'll just read about it today. Ex-Fauci top advisor
2:09:47
indicted over alleged COVID cover-up, hidden emails. David Morenz allegedly
2:09:53
received gifts, including wine and high-end meals from a collaborator,
2:09:57
prosecutors say. Uh-oh.
2:10:00
Speaker 1: See, this is why I don't believe in incognito mode.
2:10:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all bullshit.
2:10:03
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, jerk off on your main and delete
2:10:07
that shit out your history. Because all incognito mode is,
2:10:10
is just you going, hey, Google, this is the stuff
2:10:12
I don't want nobody to know about.
2:10:13
Speaker 8: Exactly.
2:10:13
Speaker 5: Just making it easier for them.
2:10:14
Speaker 2: And then they put it in a file. He served
2:10:16
for years as a top advisor with the National Institute
2:10:19
of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, indicted and is accused. Your
2:10:27
phone's talking to you, dog.
2:10:29
Speaker 1: Ha ha. What does it say? Google's like, you can
2:10:33
trust me.
2:10:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. Google's like, hey, I know incognito mode is legit.
2:10:38
Incognito mode. So he was using his personal email account
2:10:44
to evade federal transparency laws and shield key discussions from
2:10:48
Freedom of Information Act requests, according to the DOJ indictment unsealed.
2:10:53
It was also apparently bragging about it, allegedly. alleged that
2:10:57
Morenz conspired with others during the pandemic to hide communications
2:11:02
related to a controversial coronavirus research grant that involved collaboration
2:11:07
with the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. The grant
2:11:12
was later terminated amid scrutiny over whether COVID-19 may have
2:11:14
originated from a lab leak. Isn't it amazing that.
2:11:17
Speaker 1: But did he... How did they catch him? Did he.
2:11:20
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they can't get Fauci, right? This is
2:11:24
the thing, because they wanted to get Fauci. That's why
2:11:27
the Biden administration gave him a pardon from 2014 on,
2:11:32
which is really kind of wild. Federal prosecutors also claim
2:11:36
that Moran's received gifts from a collaborator, including wine and
2:11:40
offers of high-end meals, and later took steps to justify
2:11:43
these perks by contributing to a scientific publication supporting the
2:11:47
theory that COVID-19 emerged naturally. Rather than from the Wuhan lab.
2:11:52
So they bribed him to get him to do this, allegedly.
2:11:59
He's one of, I think, a bunch of people that
2:12:01
are going to wind up going down. There's too many
2:12:03
people that are pissed off. There's too many people. I mean,
2:12:05
too much money got lost. Too many people wound up dying.
2:12:09
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Why do you think anybody's going to
2:12:11
go to prison? They never go to prison.
2:12:13
Speaker 2: Oh, you don't know. This is a new thing. I mean,
2:12:17
this kind of thing is a new thing. And there's
2:12:18
enough people that want heads to roll. This is a
2:12:21
weird thing. I mean, this is a weird thing where
2:12:22
they shut the whole country down. If you find out
2:12:24
that these people actually paid to have this virus engineered
2:12:27
and they were lying about it and hiding it and
2:12:29
covering it up.
2:12:31
Speaker 1: Oh, I see. That's what I took from that.
2:12:33
Speaker 2: The virus came from the Wuhan lab. OK, these people
2:12:37
were hiding the fact that they were funding the Wuhan lab.
2:12:41
They were funding it. He was part of a group
2:12:44
that was funding them. And he was also allegedly being
2:12:48
bribed with things to promote the idea that it came
2:12:52
from naturally, from natural spillover versus from a lab leak.
2:12:57
Speaker 1: Allegedly. Who's alleging?
2:12:59
Speaker 2: Whoever the prosecutors are. I mean, I don't know. I
2:13:02
don't know what's going on. I don't know what they
2:13:03
know and what they don't know. But I do know that. Obviously,
2:13:06
there was a concerted effort to make it seem like
2:13:08
this came naturally and not from the Wuhan lab. There
2:13:11
was a giant effort, which is why on YouTube, if
2:13:14
you had posted during like 2020 about a lab leak,
2:13:19
if you said, I think it came from a lab,
2:13:20
they would literally pull you off of YouTube. They would
2:13:24
kick you off of Twitter back then. Before Elon bought Twitter,
2:13:26
they would kick you off Twitter if you were going
2:13:29
on and on about it. This is a lab leak.
2:13:31
Speaker 1: I mean, we live in those times, man. A hypothetical
2:13:33
could fuck your world up. You can't even... You can't
2:13:36
even chew on it. You can't even like have a–
2:13:38
play devil's advocate.
2:13:39
Speaker 2: Well, you can now. You can now because of Twitter,
2:13:42
because Elon bought it. But before then, when the government
2:13:45
was essentially in control– I mean the government was conspiring
2:13:48
to control and to limit– Can you talk shit about him?
2:13:51
About Elon? Yeah, people do all day.
2:13:54
Speaker 1: All day.
2:13:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, all over Twitter in his defense. I mean, I'm
2:13:58
sure he blocks them. But, I mean, he can block somebody.
2:14:02
But people talk mad shit about him.
2:14:04
Speaker 1: Bro, that motherfucker be on Twitter way too much for
2:14:06
how rich he is.
2:14:07
Speaker 2: Not only that, how busy he is. I don't understand it.
2:14:10
Speaker 1: A boy busy tweeting. What's he doing?
2:14:12
Speaker 2: But he's busy making rockets and shit. I mean, I
2:14:15
don't understand it. I don't know how he has the time.
2:14:17
I can't do it.
2:14:18
Speaker 1: He ain't making the rockets. He got, like, slaves or whatever.
2:14:21
I don't know. I'm sure he got, like, geniuses chained.
2:14:25
Speaker 2: He does, but he's in charge of a lot of it, man.
2:14:27
I went to the rocket factory during the launch. Jamie went, too.
2:14:30
We all went and watched SpaceX launch. We went down
2:14:34
to the Gulf, right?
2:14:36
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. They're the main guys. But, you know, they
2:14:37
just launched or they're going to launch on SpaceX. They're
2:14:41
going to launch the new telescope. Yes. The Nancy Grace Roman,
2:14:47
the Roman, the Roman telescope. Ooh, this motherfucker is.
2:14:53
Speaker 2: These new telescopes are kind of crazy because the more
2:14:55
they find out, the more they find out that like, oh,
2:14:57
we didn't know that.
2:14:58
Speaker 1: What's crazy about this one is how fast they built it.
2:15:02
And this is the craziest part. It's under budget. So
2:15:05
they built it faster than they said for less than
2:15:08
what they said.
2:15:08
Speaker 2: And what is the power of this one as opposed
2:15:11
to like the James Webb telescope?
2:15:12
Speaker 1: Apparently– so I was listening to this shit. I was
2:15:16
fascinated earlier. But they're saying– so they weren't comparing it
2:15:20
to the James Webb. They're comparing it to the Hubble.
2:15:22
Because the James Webb is more infrared. This is more
2:15:29
like the Hubble. But it takes pictures at the same
2:15:35
resolution as the Hubble but way, way bigger. So they
2:15:40
were saying that there is not a screen that exists
2:15:43
that you could display the picture on.
2:15:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a wide field instrument, whereas the James telescope
2:15:48
is near infrared.
2:15:50
Speaker 2: Interesting. So what is this going to be able to
2:15:53
detect that the James Webb can't?
2:15:55
Speaker 1: Exoplanets is one of the big ones. Oh, shit. Like way, way, way,
2:16:00
way more than we can right now.
2:16:02
Speaker 2: Imagine if they find exoplanets and you could see lights
2:16:04
on them.
2:16:06
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if that's possible. One day.
2:16:11
Speaker 2: Just imagine. Imagine how crazy.
2:16:13
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I think about it all the time.
2:16:14
Speaker 2: Fucking crazy that would be.
2:16:16
Speaker 1: So, yeah, so see how huge.
2:16:19
Speaker 2: Holy shit.
2:16:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, it compares more to the Hubble, I think, than
2:16:21
the James Webb.
2:16:23
Speaker 2: In the type of telescope it is.
2:16:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just the amount of information that it can
2:16:28
take in.
2:16:29
Speaker 2: They're finding shit from the James Webb that's freaking them out.
2:16:32
They're finding things that make them question the age of
2:16:34
the universe itself.
2:16:35
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And this thing is going to– it's going
2:16:37
to do– like we– because I don't know if you
2:16:38
remember this, but the first time I was on this pod,
2:16:43
I told you about the James Webb. Like a year
2:16:45
and a half before it came out.
2:16:47
Speaker 2: What were you telling me about?
2:16:48
Speaker 1: I was just telling you that it existed. Right. That
2:16:50
it was going to change everything. Yeah. And– It has.
2:16:53
And this one is going to do the same thing.
2:16:54
Speaker 2: The formation of galaxies is freaking them out. They find
2:16:57
these galaxies that are formed way too quickly. So they're confused.
2:17:01
Speaker 1: Right.
2:17:02
Speaker 2: And now they're starting to– like are we wrong about
2:17:04
how long it takes to form a galaxy or are
2:17:07
we wrong about the age of the universe?
2:17:10
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there's the– we're wrong about everything. I
2:17:12
mean we're wrong about a lot of things. But you
2:17:14
know the thing about scientists? Scientists love being wrong.
2:17:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. Well, especially these kind of scientists.
2:17:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:17:18
Speaker 2: They love new discoveries. Like, oh, more questions. They're not
2:17:21
very– they're not dogmatic. Also, it's very difficult to argue
2:17:24
when you get the data back from these things. I
2:17:26
mean it is what it is. We were talking about
2:17:28
this recently that they found a black hole that's bigger
2:17:31
than our galaxy.
2:17:35
Speaker 1: Oh, well, yeah. What? Well, I think you were sending
2:17:38
me that. I think you sent me that.
2:17:39
Speaker 2: Something– It may not be bigger than our galaxy or
2:17:43
it's commensurate with our galaxy. It's like it's– there's one
2:17:48
that they found that was bigger than our entire space.
2:17:50
Speaker 1: System. It was ton something. Ton 618.
2:17:52
Speaker 5: It's bigger than the solar system.
2:17:54
Speaker 2: But that's one. But there was the alpha. What was
2:17:56
the other one that we looked at the other day?
2:17:58
And then we brought it up the other day. There's
2:18:02
one that's even larger than that. They keep finding these
2:18:05
ones that are just impossibly big.
2:18:06
Speaker 1: Because it would have to have been primordial, right? It
2:18:09
would have to have formed.
2:18:11
Speaker 2: This was the question. They said that it was so
2:18:13
big it didn't make sense that it had enough time
2:18:17
to suck up enough stars to get that big. That
2:18:20
was the problem. They were like, there's not enough time
2:18:23
from the birth of the universe for this thing to
2:18:26
exist and be this big.
2:18:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it would have had to have started at
2:18:29
a time where matter wasn't close enough together to even
2:18:32
form things.
2:18:32
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so fucked up. It's so crazy.
2:18:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:18:35
Speaker 2: Just the idea of a black hole bigger than all
2:18:38
the way out to Pluto.
2:18:40
Speaker 1: A black hole. Here's the real sad thing. There's a
2:18:44
lot of things that are just not knowable to us. Like,
2:18:47
we just will never know. Right. And we just got
2:18:50
to accept that. Like, every time you hear them talk
2:18:52
about how we're expanding... The universe is expanding so rapidly
2:18:59
that eventually it's going to be– because it's speeding up.
2:19:01
So eventually it's going to be expanding closer to the
2:19:04
speed of light.
2:19:05
Speaker 2: Right.
2:19:06
Speaker 1: And so it's like at some point, if there's still
2:19:11
people on Earth by then, at some point, there's not
2:19:13
going to be any stars. We're going to be– it's
2:19:15
going to be expanding so rapidly that when you look
2:19:18
up at the sky, you're not going to see anything.
2:19:19
Like they're going to think. They're going to think that
2:19:22
everything outside our galaxy doesn't exist. They all died off.
2:19:25
They're going to see stars, but they're not going to
2:19:27
know that there's other galaxies. Because the light won't be
2:19:31
reaching us. Wow. So imagine the stuff that we can't
2:19:37
know now, that we're already beyond what we could even know.
2:19:40
Speaker 2: I think it's called Phoenix. I think that was the.
2:19:43
Speaker 5: They're both part of the same thing.
2:19:45
Speaker 2: It's the same thing?
2:19:46
Speaker 5: I'm looking at everything about ton 6118 says it's the
2:19:49
biggest thing.
2:19:50
Speaker 1: They've ever found.
2:19:51
Speaker 2: And how big is it exactly?
2:19:53
Speaker 5: 88. I just lost the.
2:20:00
Mass is the size of roughly 66 billion suns, I
2:20:05
think is what that means. I don't fucking know what
2:20:07
that means, man.
2:20:09
Speaker 2: I don't understand.
2:20:10
Speaker 1: 66 billion solar masses.
2:20:13
Speaker 2: That's so crazy.
2:20:17
Speaker 1: You can't even really imagine that.
2:20:18
Speaker 2: Do you know what they said? That there are more
2:20:21
planets in the universe than there are seconds since the
2:20:26
Big Bang.
2:20:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's... Phoenix is surrounding ton 618.
2:20:35
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what it is. Okay, so Phoenix... As a quasar,
2:20:40
ton 618 is believed to be the active galactic nucleus
2:20:45
at the center of a galaxy, the engine of which
2:20:47
is a supermassive black hole feeding on intensely hot gas
2:20:51
and matter in an accretion disk? What does that mean?
2:20:57
Speaker 1: That's the disk around the black hole that, like when
2:21:01
it eats something. That's where the light is coming from.
2:21:03
Speaker 2: Okay. When did they discover this?
2:21:10
Speaker 5: 1950... Nature of this object was first known in 57.
2:21:16
13 years later, 1970, discovered emissions from it.
2:21:20
Speaker 1: You want to really get freaked out? Jamie, look up
2:21:23
the Great Attractor. What is that?
2:21:28
Speaker 2: So... Scary.
2:21:30
Speaker 1: So there is something on the other side of us
2:21:36
that we can't see. And everything is moving in that direction,
2:21:39
including us. And we don't know what's pulling it. What?
2:21:44
Speaker 2: Hidden galaxies discovered in the zone of avoidance. What does
2:21:48
that mean? The Great Attractor defeat dark energy? What?
2:21:54
Speaker 1: Now, look up. What is it?
2:21:56
Speaker 2: The Great Attractor is a region of gravitational attraction in
2:22:00
intergalactic space and the apparent central gravitational point. of the
2:22:06
Lanakia supercluster of galaxies that includes the Milky Way galaxy
2:22:10
as well as about 100,000 other galaxies. The observed attraction
2:22:14
suggests a localized concentration of mass having the order of
2:22:18
10 to the 16 solar masses. However, it's obscured by
2:22:23
the Milky Way's galactic plane lying above the zone of
2:22:27
avoidance so that in visible light wavelengths, the great attractor
2:22:31
is difficult to observe directly.
2:22:33
Speaker 7: Bro.
2:22:34
Speaker 2: There's no way you can know everything.
2:22:36
Speaker 1: And the attraction is observable.
2:22:37
Speaker 2: There's too much information.
2:22:38
Speaker 1: So we know everything's being sucked towards it.
2:22:40
Speaker 2: What is that?
2:22:42
Speaker 1: We don't know. And it's sucking all these galaxies, all
2:22:44
these stupid galaxies. Everything's moving towards it. And we can't
2:22:47
tell what it is.
2:22:48
Speaker 2: Imagine if it's your job to know what's going on
2:22:52
in the universe. Hey, Brian, write me a paper on
2:22:55
what's going on in the universe. Like everything?
2:22:58
Speaker 1: Everything?
2:22:59
Speaker 2: It would never end. With every new.
2:23:03
Satellite that gets launched that can see into the space
2:23:06
every new telescope that gets utilized like we're fucked.
2:23:09
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing though and I could be wrong
2:23:12
about this I mean I'm wrong about a lot of
2:23:13
shit but I think that it's actually physically impossible for
2:23:19
you to know even a fraction of the things because
2:23:23
any device that could store that amount of information would
2:23:27
collapse into a black hole before you could get anywhere
2:23:30
near storing enough So your brain couldn't even hold even
2:23:34
a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of the information.
2:23:37
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
2:23:38
Speaker 1: We have pea brains.
2:23:40
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:23:40
Speaker 2: There's no way we could have that information. The South Pole.
2:23:43
Speaker 1: What is this?
2:23:43
Speaker 5: Flat earthers are going to love this.
2:23:45
Speaker 2: Okay. South Pole wall or the South Pole wall is
2:23:50
a massive cosmic structure formed by a giant wall of galaxies,
2:23:55
a galaxy filament. that extends across at least 1.37 billion
2:24:01
light years of space, the nearest light and consequently part
2:24:05
of which is aged at about a half a billion
2:24:08
light years. The structure and its astronomical angle is dense
2:24:12
in five known places, including one very near the celestial
2:24:15
South Pole and is, according to the International Team of
2:24:20
Astronomers that Discovered the South Pole Wall, the largest contiguous
2:24:24
feature of In the local volume and comparable to the
2:24:27
Sloan Great Wall at half the distance. Okay, you just like.
2:24:31
Speaker 5: I just blocked them by walls is all I was
2:24:33
getting at. Aha.
2:24:34
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why they're confused. Maybe that's what they think
2:24:36
the Antarctic Wall is.
2:24:37
Speaker 1: Or maybe the rest of the galaxy knows that we're
2:24:39
a problem and they got us locked in. You know,
2:24:42
perhaps we got we gotten out before and fucked the
2:24:45
galaxy up.
2:24:46
Speaker 2: Maybe. Back in the Egyptian days. Maybe that's what they
2:24:50
were doing.
2:24:51
Speaker 1: Something.
2:24:51
Speaker 2: You've seen that shit they found underneath the pyramids, right? No.
2:24:55
You haven't seen that?
2:24:56
Speaker 1: I don't think so. What do you mean?
2:24:58
Speaker 2: Oh, you don't know? Okay.
2:24:59
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't know?
2:25:00
Speaker 2: Kurt Metzger. Oh, you don't know. He should sell T-shirts.
2:25:06
You ever heard? Oh, you don't know. They found these structures.
2:25:11
They use, oh, God, what is it called? Radiotomography, satellite radiotomography.
2:25:17
And it's this ground-penetrating material. shit that they've found these
2:25:23
structures underneath the pyramids that go like over a kilometer
2:25:26
deep into the earth, like pillars, giant columns that are
2:25:31
surrounded by coils that go down into the ground. And
2:25:34
they've used this technology successfully to detect things that they
2:25:39
know exists, like certain voids that are in pyramids and
2:25:41
certain chambers and certain temples that they know exist underground.
2:25:46
And they've accurately described these things, including they use this
2:25:49
radio tomography on– there's a mountain in Italy that has
2:25:54
a particle collider at the bottom of the mountain over
2:25:56
a kilometer into the mountain. They built this particle collider.
2:25:59
And this thing, this information, this technology shows an accurate
2:26:07
image of what this particle collider looks like. The exact
2:26:10
dimensions shows it exact. And so they're using this underneath
2:26:14
the pyramid. And this guy, Filippo Biondi, this Italian scientist
2:26:17
that I had on the podcast, explained that they've used
2:26:21
this underneath the pyramids. And there's these undeniable structures that
2:26:25
exist that go down into the ground, like very deep
2:26:28
into the ground. So the pyramids are just the top
2:26:31
of this immense structure.
2:26:33
Speaker 1: When you said Italian scientist, I just keep thinking about
2:26:35
him like taking a nap in the middle of the night.
2:26:37
Speaker 2: Eating pasta, drinking wine. Eventually we're figuring it out.
2:26:41
Speaker 1: So you're saying that there are machines down there or something?
2:26:44
Speaker 2: They don't know what it is. So they haven't really
2:26:46
dug into the ground and investigated it fully yet. But
2:26:49
they know that these sensors, this technology is detecting these structures. Jamie,
2:26:55
show them what it looks like. So show them the
2:26:57
3D model. They made a 3D model of it.
2:26:59
Speaker 1: I'm shocked that we can't get in there.
2:27:02
Speaker 2: And just go. That's what they think it looks like. Okay.
2:27:07
Speaker 1: What?
2:27:08
Speaker 2: Imagine. If that's accurate, if there really are columns underneath
2:27:12
the pyramid.
2:27:13
Speaker 1: I mean, that just seems so impossible.
2:27:15
Speaker 2: It seems impossible.
2:27:15
Speaker 1: And there's heat?
2:27:17
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's heat. I don't think that's
2:27:19
what it is. There's a water table underneath there, too.
2:27:22
And they think it has something to do with the
2:27:23
use of the pyramid in the first place, that it
2:27:26
wasn't simply just a structure, that it had some sort
2:27:28
of a use and that these columns were doing something
2:27:33
and that it was probably some sort of a technology.
2:27:36
Look how nuts that is. Megastructures underneath the pyramids. Could
2:27:41
you go back to what that one said with the– yeah,
2:27:44
right there. Look at that. Alleged megastructures under Egypt's pyramids
2:27:49
sparking fascination and fierce skepticism worldwide. Will you lose something?
2:27:54
Speaker 1: No, I'll take it back.
2:27:55
Speaker 2: So if it's true, that's nuts.
2:27:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean– That sounds absolutely fucking crazy to me.
2:28:02
I'm just thinking about the work that it would take
2:28:05
to even do that. Right.
2:28:06
Speaker 2: And what kind of a society did that?
2:28:09
Speaker 1: And for what purpose?
2:28:10
Speaker 2: And it's at least 4,500 years old. At least.
2:28:13
Speaker 1: At least. Yeah. And so apparently those ancient pyramids were
2:28:17
before we thought they were. I thought the modern Egyptians
2:28:24
built those pyramids.
2:28:24
Speaker 2: No.
2:28:25
Speaker 1: The pyramids were ancient to them.
2:28:28
Speaker 2: Well, that seems to be the case with a lot.
2:28:29
That's the labyrinth that's underneath. It's outside of the pyramids.
2:28:35
This is another insane structure that they found that Herodotus
2:28:38
documented way back in, you know, thousands of years ago.
2:28:42
But this is all Ben Van Kirkwick from his Uncharted
2:28:48
X YouTube channel sort of described all this and explained
2:28:51
it and They've used scans, ground penetrating radar to show
2:28:54
that there's this immense structure that Herodotus described as being
2:28:57
greater than Giza itself. That's underneath the ground. And inside
2:29:02
the labyrinth, there's a 40 meter long metallic object that's
2:29:07
shaped like a Tic Tac. So whatever the fuck that is,
2:29:13
who knows? But I think there's a lot of shit
2:29:15
from that part of the world that's going to show
2:29:18
us that. Civilization at one point in time had reached
2:29:21
a very high level, like probably even higher than we
2:29:23
are today. And then it was wiped out, and then
2:29:26
we're the rebuild.
2:29:29
Speaker 1: But they didn't cure syphilis. Actually, bro, you know there's
2:29:32
a new syphilis? I heard.
2:29:33
Speaker 2: From Michigan or some shit, right?
2:29:36
Speaker 1: No, from Washington.
2:29:37
Speaker 5: Probably from Michigan.
2:29:40
Speaker 1: No, it was in Washington.
2:29:41
Speaker 2: Washington?
2:29:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dude.
2:29:44
Speaker 2: A new kind of syphilis?
2:29:45
Speaker 1: The dude had two syphilises.
2:29:49
Speaker 2: Two different?
2:29:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, two ones.
2:29:51
Speaker 2: What a dirty pig he must have been.
2:29:54
Speaker 1: And the same way that COVID was going through genetic recombination,
2:29:58
so they were exchanging traits inside his body.
2:30:02
Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
2:30:03
Speaker 2: And creating a super syphilis.
2:30:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then what happened is a bunch of old
2:30:07
ladies kept going to the ER, and they all kept
2:30:10
describing the same man, and they— He spread it.
2:30:14
Speaker 2: He was a super spreader.
2:30:15
Speaker 1: He was spreading it, yeah. And he went to the
2:30:17
ER because apparently like this, whatever strain he has, it
2:30:21
just causes you to go blind super quickly and all
2:30:25
these things. And there's debate about whether he knew he
2:30:29
was purposely spreading it and didn't give a fuck because
2:30:31
they told him Yeah, you got to come back. He
2:30:34
just kept fucking. He just kept fucking and didn't go back.
2:30:37
And then he went. He didn't go back until he
2:30:39
had another emergency. He went to a different emergency room.
2:30:42
Speaker 2: How many times in human history has that been the
2:30:44
cause of a plague?
2:30:45
Speaker 1: Because somebody wouldn't stop fucking?
2:30:47
Speaker 2: Wouldn't stop fucking and just won't tell anybody.
2:30:49
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you going to be mad? You
2:30:51
can't be mad at.
2:30:52
Speaker 5: It's five cases of rare ocular syphilis.
2:30:55
Speaker 2: Which can cause vision impairment or blindness. Identified in Southwest Michigan.
2:31:00
Speaker 4: Michigan.
2:31:00
Speaker 2: Michigan. Between March and July 2022, all linked to a
2:31:04
single heterosexual male partner. Wow.
2:31:08
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
2:31:09
Speaker 2: All five women, age 40 to 60, he wasn't picky,
2:31:12
reported having sexual contact with the same man. This guy
2:31:15
was a freak.
2:31:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro. He was out here fucking.
2:31:18
Speaker 2: Fucking people blind.
2:31:21
Speaker 1: Because his was crazy. Imagine leaving the emergency room. Because
2:31:25
the first time he was in the emergency room, they
2:31:26
thought he had herpes.
2:31:27
Speaker 4: Wow.
2:31:28
Speaker 1: And they gave him something for that, and he left.
2:31:29
But imagine... Coming from the emergency room from an STD
2:31:32
scare and going right back to fucking.
2:31:34
Speaker 2: And going blind.
2:31:35
Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
2:31:35
Speaker 2: All patients were hospitalized and successfully treated with intravenous penicillin.
2:31:39
No further cases were linked to this man after this treatment. Woo.
2:31:43
Speaker 1: All right, Brian.
2:31:45
Speaker 2: Let's wrap this up with super syphilis.
2:31:47
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
2:31:48
Speaker 2: Anything going on? When is, you're going to put your
2:31:51
special up. I'm going to do that later, yeah.
2:31:52
Speaker 1: When are you going to put that out? I think
2:31:55
it's going to be summertime, July.
2:31:57
Speaker 2: Okay.
2:31:57
Speaker 1: I'm going to put my special up on YouTube. Come
2:32:00
back in July? Yeah, we'll do that.
2:32:01
Speaker 2: I'll see you tonight.
2:32:02
Speaker 1: All right, yeah. BrianSimpsonComedy.com BrianSimpsonComedy.com Goodbye.