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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers Stress & Dabo Calls Out Kiffin · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:19
  Speaker 1: I think we can go back to Aaron Hall. You know,
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: I think on a day-to-day basis, he just, he bought
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: it every single day. And credit to him, you know,
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: and his mindset and the way he attacked every day,
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: the way that he approached every day, not just out
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: on the field, but here in the building, in the
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: training room, in the weight room, in the classroom. Like he's,
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: you know, mature beyond his years I would.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: Say Dan Morgan giving a little bit of love yesterday
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: in the presser to Aaron Hull. One of three undrafted
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  Speaker 2: free agents to make this roster. D-lineman out of Duke.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: And he was asked, I talked about him earlier, Bone.
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: And then at the end of the presser, Dan was asked,
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: is there someone that going into camp you kind of
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  Speaker 2: thought they were a long shot? And they ended up
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: surprising you with their performance. And he went to Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Hull right there. And that's what you heard yesterday. So
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  Speaker 2: kudos to that kid, man. And we'll see. I'm very
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: curious to see. And we're getting ready to talk about
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: this defense. And do we still have the same confidence
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: in this defense bone we had before camp started, before
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: the scort and injury? I'm very interested to see which
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: of these young D linemen end up getting the most snaps.
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: You've got Cam Jackson, Lee Hunter. You got Edwards, who
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: they just signed, and you got Aaron Hall. And it's
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: it's three dudes that have never played a snap in
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: the NFL. And Cam Jackson, who played just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a bit a little bit of snaps last year in
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  Speaker 2: one year. I'm very fascinated to see who joins, you know,
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: the Browns in terms of snap load.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah, no, no doubt. Also,
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Hall.
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  Speaker 4: We're working on him to hopefully join the the radio
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  Speaker 4: show here at some point soon. Not today, but sometime
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  Speaker 4: in the future. I mean, why wouldn't you?
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  Speaker 3: What a story he is also. He's a champion, baby.
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  Speaker 3: He's a champion. You know what I mean? Why wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: we get him on?
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  Speaker 4: The rare college football player now spent his entire career
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  Speaker 4: back at one school. He was at Duke since 2021.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't want to go back to Duke, does he?
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  Speaker 3: And he's from Durham. He's not going back to Duke,
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  Speaker 3: is he? We got him.
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  Speaker 5: We got him here.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if he decides to go back there. No,
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  Speaker 3: he's not.
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  Speaker 4: But no, he's a I listened to him interviewed yesterday
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  Speaker 4: and checked out multiple things. He's a as they said, mature,
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  Speaker 4: but beyond his years, kid.
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  Speaker 3: He is. And when you go to Duke, that's what
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: you get.
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  Speaker 2: He is also one of the rare undrafted free agents
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  Speaker 2: who I focused on. after the signing period, and it
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  Speaker 2: actually worked out for him. Usually we do this thing
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  Speaker 2: where we try to act like we know which undrafted
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  Speaker 2: free agent. Coker was one that felt obvious, and I
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  Speaker 2: remember looking at the undrafted free agents and saying, you know,
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: I think this kid could be, you know, somebody that
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  Speaker 2: could make it. And I didn't know it would be
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  Speaker 2: first year. I didn't know it would be first year
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  Speaker 2: on the active roster. So let's talk about this defense,
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  Speaker 2: Bone Man. I think getting a unit that was 15th
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: or 16th in many categories last year. And getting that
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: unit with the new additions of Devin Lloyd and Jalen
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: Phillips into the top 10, I think has really been
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: a rallying cry, a goal for us in the fan base.
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  Speaker 2: And then we lose Nick Scorton right away in training camp. Um,
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  Speaker 2: We've had the preseason play out. I think we know
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: everybody is worried sick about the offense and the offensive
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  Speaker 2: line specifically. We hadn't really focused much on the defense.
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: Speaking of focus, Max, stay strong here.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: Tampa Tammy is trying to distract me right now, and
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: she is a very distracting human.
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  Speaker 3: I have to tell you right now. She's doing a
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  Speaker 3: second place dance.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, are we sure? Are we sure she's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be in third place this year? She's celebrating Clemson
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  Speaker 2: right now is what she's doing.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, oh, oh.
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  Speaker 2: A little Dabo talk coming up later, Tampa Tammy, about
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  Speaker 2: your Tigers. So what do you think, Bone? The scoring
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  Speaker 2: injury happened. Preseason plays out. I thought the defense, first-team defense,
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  Speaker 2: when they played was... good, not great necessarily. What do
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  Speaker 2: you think? Do you still have the top 10 confidence
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  Speaker 2: or no?
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  Speaker 4: I think with score in there and what we thought
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  Speaker 4: he was going to be, as a texter pointed out,
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  Speaker 4: it felt like that they were going to make that leap,
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  Speaker 4: like another leap from where they were to last year
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  Speaker 4: to this year. I still think it's possible. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: quite as sure. I think they might be either in
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  Speaker 4: the range of last year or approaching top 12. I
• 4:54
  Speaker 4: know it's not far from top 10, but I think
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  Speaker 4: that they're going to be semi-near it. We just have
• 4:59
  Speaker 4: to see how that other edge spot plays out. They're
• 5:03
  Speaker 4: replacing Nick's score. But I do, with the moves that
• 5:05
  Speaker 4: they made, adding Phillips, adding Lloyd, I think that there's
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  Speaker 4: no reason, Mac, for them to go backwards. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think that should be a thing by any means. They're
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  Speaker 4: only moving forward. It's just a matter of... How far?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I listen. If you were to ask me, I love
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  Speaker 3: Nick Scorton.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel bad even saying this, but I want
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  Speaker 2: to profess my belief that this defense is going to
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  Speaker 2: make another move this year. And I still believe they
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  Speaker 2: can be in that back portion of the top 10.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking anything crazy. But if you were given
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  Speaker 2: the choice of, OK, you got Nick Scorton and no
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  Speaker 2: Lloyd and Phillips or you got Lloyd and Phillips and
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: no Scorton. I think we know which one we would take. Now, listen,
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  Speaker 2: the best choice is Nick Skorton with those guys. And
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  Speaker 2: that would be special. But this defense is still improved.
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: The personnel is still improved from last season because you
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  Speaker 2: added two big-time ballers to this defense. You saw Phillips.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: He didn't play much in the preseason. You saw his
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: impact bone in that Buffalo drive, that first drive. The
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: dude ended the drive. Literally, him and Prince Lee literally
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  Speaker 2: snatched four points away from Josh Allen. And I just
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  Speaker 2: think the pass rush bone, this team was 15th or
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  Speaker 2: 16th in most defense categories last year, most of the
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  Speaker 2: big ones. And their pass rush was absolute dog crap.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, absolutely terrible. So you look forward to this
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: year and what Jalen Phillips is going to provide. um
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: and i think i think pat jones is maybe one
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  Speaker 2: of the most maybe the most underrated player on the
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  Speaker 2: team he had a real good preseason when he was
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  Speaker 2: out there and i think this is a guy that
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: had a good start to the season last year and
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: no one ever talks about i think princely really uh
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: opened our eyes with the way he played in the
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: preseason after the canton game after that game um so
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: i'm sorry man i like I don't sense the early techs.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: I don't sense people still believe in this defense, but
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's still going to find their way into
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  Speaker 2: the bottom half of the top 10.
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  Speaker 3: I still think it's an improved year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Pat Jones did have seven sacks his last
• 7:15
  Speaker 4: year in Minnesota. Can he get to that seven, eight
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  Speaker 4: range again? And then you throw in, can Prince Lee
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  Speaker 4: Mack get Three, four, five, and they end up with
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  Speaker 4: 10 to 12 sacks where we thought Skorton may be
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  Speaker 4: getting to this year. Also, I know that they're different positions,
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  Speaker 4: but how much does the O'Kara case signing make you
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  Speaker 4: feel better about the loss of Skorton? I'm not comparing
• 7:38
  Speaker 4: the positions, but does the presence of Bobby O and
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  Speaker 4: his impact, does that make you feel a lot better
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  Speaker 4: now that there's not two areas that you're quite— We're
• 7:48
  Speaker 4: still wanting to see the edge, but we had the
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  Speaker 4: edge and then the linebacker questions. Now that the linebacker
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  Speaker 4: spot's solidified, how much better does that make you feel?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great point, too.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, it was Roseboom, some combination of Roseboom, Wallace, Cherilis,
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  Speaker 2: and Bam Martin-Scott starting at linebacker, depending on who was hurt.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: This year, it's Lloyd Okereke, and I'm telling you right now,
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: don't sleep on Tyrell Dotson. That dude had five sacks
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  Speaker 2: from a linebacker spot and 120 tackles last year for Miami,
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  Speaker 2: and he started almost 50 games. Right there, I'm telling
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: you right there, we got three linebackers better than any
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  Speaker 2: linebacker on the roster last year. So that's a major
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: upgrade as well. And Avero and company still finished in
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: the middle of the pack defensively last year with all
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: those restrictions. I brought up the stat yesterday, Bone, that
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  Speaker 2: Robert Mays was saying on the Athletic Football Show preview
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  Speaker 2: of the Panthers. that they were last or next to
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  Speaker 2: last in about every metric when it comes to the
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  Speaker 2: pass rush. But coverage metrics were right there around 20.
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: Imagine when you up the pass rush where the coverage
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: metrics go with that corner. We think Mike Jack and
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: JC Horn had great seasons last year. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't even talk about the pass rush from blitzers.
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  Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd had an amazing season as a blitzer last year.
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  Speaker 2: He did tell us bone. He doesn't think he's going
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  Speaker 2: to blitz as much here, probably because they want to
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  Speaker 2: more in coverage on passing downs. But how about JC
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: Horn in the slot? He's going to get used as
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: a blitzer more. Merrick's a great blitzer. So I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if we have more blitz success this year too. I
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: just think this defense is still going to be all that.
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  Speaker 2: And I just, I would like, I'd like to find
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  Speaker 2: something bone where Panther fans aren't shook by the preseason
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  Speaker 2: and aren't crying to their mamas. Like seriously, this fan
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: base came into the preseason bone with all kinds of
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: pee and vinegar and I think that's the only way
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  Speaker 2: I can say that phrase on the air. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: sound quite as good. Doesn't hit the same way, does it?
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  Speaker 3: Boy, they're coming in with that pee and vinegar.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't quite hit the same way. And I feel like
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: y'all are so shook. And the O-line, I get it.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: I'm shook a bit there, too. But this defense, man,
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  Speaker 2: I think this is going to be the best unit
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  Speaker 2: we've had.
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  Speaker 3: Since Avero's been here. I do, man.
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  Speaker 4: The timing of this is quite unbelievable. We do have
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: some breaking news this morning.
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: Matt D.
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  Speaker 4: Ringer has put out at 641 a.m. their NFL defensive
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  Speaker 4: ranking predictions.
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  Speaker 3: For the 2026 season.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: Where are we going to be? Where would you think
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: that we are on this list?
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  Speaker 5: 14th.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 3: Lower than that?
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: 24th.
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  Speaker 3: What the bleep are you doing, Ringer? Seriously.
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: They praise Derek Brown in the addition of Devin Lloyd.
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  Speaker 4: They're worried about how fragile Phillips is with injuries. And
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  Speaker 4: the biggest concern and why they're 24th is the secondary.
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  Speaker 3: The secondary?
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  Speaker 4: Outside of JC Horn, the coverage depth behind him is
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: very thin.
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  Speaker 3: Really? Really.
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  Speaker 5: Did they not watch Mike Jack and how he was
• 10:50
  Speaker 5: a better corner the back half of the year last
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  Speaker 5: year than J.C. Horn was? Did they not understand the
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: chess piece that Trayvon Merrick is as he can bump
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  Speaker 5: up and be a third linebacker?
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  Speaker 3: Preach fitting.
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  Speaker 4: I also think the ringer might put this out knowing
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: that this would be promoting right what we're talking about.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: Who timed this on purpose ringer to get me even
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: more fired up?
• 11:09
  Speaker 5: But who wrote the article?
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: Bill Simmons. No, I'm just kidding. Anthony... Dabundo.
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  Speaker 5: All right. I'm going to go find him.
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: Anthony Dabundo.
• 11:21
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go book him.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: This is personal now to Finney. Great point, though, Finney,
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: about guys in the secondary.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: He's an Eagles fan.
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, that makes so much sense. How about he chokes
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: on a freaking cheesesteak for crying out loud? Easy.
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  Speaker 7: Damn.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: You got your Dabundos in a wad over there.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. He's on the Ringer Gambling Show, and he
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: writes these things for them. DVR Dave says, last LOL,
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: I guessed 25th. John says, I was in my car,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: I guessed 20th. Yeah, I must add, the best guess,
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: the highest ranked guess. How does that happen at Arwalk?
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: That comes out at 6.41 a.m., right? right during our show.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, defense, y'all hear that over there?
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: JJ, pass that along to the defensive players.
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  Speaker 4: That's disrespect, man. JJ, put on a sign. You got
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  Speaker 4: disrespected by... Anthony Dabundo.
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: That damn Dabundo.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: This dude says, y'all never heard of the guy. Why
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: are you so offended? I don't know, because I'm Mac.
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: It's football season, and I believe in this defense, and
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: we're being questioned. I don't care if I have no
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: idea who the guy is. That's not important here, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Dabundo. Dabundo. What a name, too, man.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, gee, 7045709610.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: More like Dabundo.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Da dumbo uh this texter said mice you got him
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: baby you got him uh texter says mike jack had
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: a good year last year do we really think he's
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  Speaker 2: going to duplicate it i don't think he has to
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  Speaker 2: even have the same sort of year where statistically he
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: was an absolute standout and all the pff metrics and
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: stuff like that i don't think he even needs to
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: have like even if he does tick down come back
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit and and he got had a I
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  Speaker 2: still think he is a really good second corner. I
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: think the question will be the third corner. Is it
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Shaw Smith-Wade who had a good camp? Is it Will Lee,
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: the blanket? I do think that's maybe where the question is.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: But I love our versatility, the way they can play
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: ransom and move Merrick up into the box. I like
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: that versatility. The linebackers are better. I do think this
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: dude says Mac just on here yesterday whining about our
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: defensive tackles today. Mac on here acting like we got
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: the steel curtain defense.
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  Speaker 3: From the 70s. Ain't no whining.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: I was just pointing out, Bone, we got a lot
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: of inexperience there other than Derrick Brown and Bobby Brown.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: It's probably the weakest spot. It probably is. Can my
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: guy Mack whine? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: He's an all-time whiner, right? Like Mount Rushmore whining. But
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: he ain't whining here.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: Settle down.
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  Speaker 5: We didn't say we were going to be the steel curtain.
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: Maybe the purple people eater. So maybe that's what we're
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: going to be from the 70s.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: By the way, Mack, how much can J.C.
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  Speaker 4: Horn benefit from the year that Mike Jack had a
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: year ago, because he's now on team's radar where a
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: lot of times they would not want to throw towards
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: JC Horn. Well, Mike Jack is a no commodity now too.
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: So our team's going to say, well, you know, Mike
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: Jack is a guy we also don't want to test.
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: Do they try JC Horn a little more than they
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: used to this year? Because of Mike Jack's growing reputation. Yeah,
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: it does need to be said.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: J.C. Horn is a deterrent of the ball going in
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: his direction. Yes.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: So when people talk about J.C. Horn's PFF numbers aren't
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: that good and all that stuff, he was 10th. in
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: percentage of targets against. To me, Bone, the best thing
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: you can do as a corner, I mean, I guess
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: you could say taking the ball away, but to me,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: watching corners over the years, Deion Sanders, they wouldn't even
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: look his way. If you are a deterrent to where
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: that portion of the field, you're just like, no, I
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: ain't going to do it. To me, that's an extreme
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: service that can't be quantified on a PFF website. Like that, that's,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: that's just huge. Cause then you can roll double teams
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: over to the other side. You could do stuff to
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: try to make sure that, okay, they're not going after him.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: So let's try to load up and make sure we're
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: prepared for when they come to these other sides. So
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's, I think it's a great corner tandem
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: married to me as an underrated safety. I just, Derek
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Brown is good to me, going to wreck shop. Like,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: it's another year back from the injury. I don't think
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Derrick Brown was back to his best last year. I
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: think he was very good. I got a feeling, Bo,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: if he can stay healthy, knock on wood, he's going
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: to be back to his best the next year.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: The year after the return, right? This texter says he
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: knows Anthony Dibundo. His government name is Anthony Pagnotta.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, no. Come on. Flounder, is this an inside job?
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Is this an inside job for the Floundino crime family?
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Hey, if Flounder made a prediction, though, Mac, I don't
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: know what that's guaranteed to go right for that guy.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Flounder's got a history of saying stuff, and it goes
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: Not that we don't. Mac is right. Our D should
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: be one of the best in years. Another texter, 704 number.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Mac is in Homer mode, but his little henchman, Fitty,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: even tops him. Fitty is now the biggest Panther homer
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: on this show.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: What did I say that was out of line? By
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: the way, I spent 30 minutes yesterday filling in for Colin,
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: voicing my concerns about where this offense is going into
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: the opener. So get a Q-tip, clean the wax, and
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: do a better damn job at listening.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Tell him, Fitt, you made great points, man.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: Am I going to pick them to win every single Friday?
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: Absolutely.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. I still have my concerns about where this team
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: is entering the opener.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Both things can be true. Someone compared you and Finney
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: to Austin Powers and Mini-Me. Oh, let's get him, Mini-Me.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Let's get him, baby. Oh, man. I shall call him Mini-Mac.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: This texter says, sure enough, I bet that was flounder.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Y'all have been pouched.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, come on.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: He turned it into. Okay. He turned that thing into
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: a verb or something. Was it a verb? How's that
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: word used? Anyway, I'm not smart enough to figure that out.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: That's well played.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: The only evidence would be of where this guy would
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: have the Giants defense on this defensive rankings list. If
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: they're ahead of the Panthers, that might be a problem.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: If this guy has the Giants ahead of the Panthers,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: this might be a... Flounder Pagnotta. Anyhow, let's see. Giants
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: at 21 on the list.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, we caught you. We caught you, Flound. Another
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: texter says, we got to chill with the Mike Jack hype.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Contract year? Motivation to go get that cheddar? Come on, baby.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: He's a guy in that defense. We saw it during camp.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: He is a.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: He's a guy that has some fire. Whenever there's something
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: chippy going on, Mac, he is involved in a lot
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I love it. I think that's a big thing to have.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Tampa Matt says, where's the rest of the NFC South
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: in the ringer defensive rankings?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Do you have it, Boney? Yeah, just give me one
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: second here.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Atlanta, Matt, they don't have a defense, so they're not listed.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Atlanta's 28. As I said, Panthers are 24. I'm scrolling
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: here as I talk, so bear with me for one
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: second here. Saints are 19. On this list. Although they
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: lost Brian Brzee, right? So that's got to be a
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: factor for them. Tampa Bay, still scrolling, still scrolling, still scrolling.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay, I'm now in the top ten.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay's eight.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: What are you smoking? Derundalo, what are you smoking? And
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: just to make sure. What's the guy's name? The Bundo. Okay.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I want to make sure I'm not on the 2002
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Buccaneers here.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: This is 2026. I mean, really?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I know they added Ruben Bain, but is there going
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: to be pass rush? I don't remember much pass rush
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: He praises Vita Vea, Yaya Diaby, Ruben Bain, Todd Bowles
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: being there.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Todd Bowles was there last year. How'd that work out
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: down the stretch? He says even the loss of Jamel Dean, though,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: overcome that one. Of course. I mean, but the Panthers
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: can't overcome anything.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: But the Bucs going, oh, yeah, they'll just overcome that.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: What were the Bucs rankings on defense last year, Bone Man?
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: The Bucs ranked fifth in EPA per drive the first
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: nine weeks. Yeah, and then what happened? They ranked 28th
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: in the same stat the second half of the season.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: So I don't know. They don't have their exact.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Number on here.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Were they right? I'm sorry, man. I don't know why
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I'm apologizing to you, Bone. But that defense was doo-doo
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: for much of that season. 20th last year in points
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and yards allowed.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Pass rush was 22nd in the league. Reuben Bain's a rookie, man.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: He's really talented. We expect him to go in and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: just completely flip that pass rush.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: His reasoning was offensive injuries may have derailed the Buccaneers
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: last season, but the defense's fall off was the biggest
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: reason they didn't make the playoffs.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: They run a lot of the same back. So why
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: are they eighth then? Yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Isn't that more of like the one that should be
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: like in the 20s? Todd Bowles is a defensive coach.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't he have been able to keep that side of
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the ball from falling off?
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: This is the maddest I've ever been at.
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: Anthony.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Anthony... Dabundo. There you go. There you go, baby. That
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: damn Dabundo caught us again, Matt. Come on, Derek. Don't
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: tell Derek Brown about this disrespect from Dabumble. All right?
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: Dabumble.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: That's where Finney found his girl, by the way, on Dabumble. Hinge.
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: A hinge.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: That's right. As long as it's not unhinged. That's a
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: whole other app.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: When we come back, Dabo calls out Wayne Kiffin. Are
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: we worried he just gave LSU motivation? Is LSU distracted?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Plus the bone man. That's me.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Am I rooting for Clemson this weekend?
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: What? What?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I'll explain. Sports Radio 92.7. This year, it's like. Dude,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: we haven't talked about Clemson at all nationally.
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: It's been all about LSU, all about the roster building,
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: all about Lane Kiffin. Meanwhile, Davo, self-proclaimed bunch of nobodies
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: at Clemson still have dudes. So I would not be
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: that surprised if this is a game in the third quarter.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: At that point, all the pressure is on LSU, right?
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: Because they're supposed to be the team. Meanwhile, Clemson has
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: zero expectations, no pressure, and is playing with house money.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: So I think it's a very dangerous game if you're
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: LSU to go in and kind of overlook a team
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: that still has guys on the other side that will
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: play on Sundays.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Greg McIlroy thinks little old Clemson is dangerous on Saturday.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Little old Clemson.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Listen, I know Clemson fans sometimes will get angry at
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: us about things we say about the program or if
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: we have a problem with something Dabo said or did
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Not me.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: But I need to say this.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I desperately want y'all to beat Lane Kiffin on Saturday night.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I want it just for Clemson. I want it for
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the ACC. But I also want it to happen against
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that smarmy I'm S.O.B. Lane Kiffin. And you started saying
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: this yesterday, Bone, that you wonder if this thing will
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: be closer than people think in the fourth quarter of
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: this game. I'd love for them just to give themselves
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: a shot in the fourth quarter. That's a tough environment
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: to go into. I think Zena's performance is going to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: be a very important one, Bone. But I said it earlier,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: it does feel like the best time to play this
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: team with new schemes on both sides of the ball,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: with transfers from all over, literally with a couple of
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: transfers from the NFL possibly playing if a Louisiana court
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't rule it out on Thursday morning. There's a lot
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: of intriguing subplots in this game, man.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: I was reading one article today that was like, what's
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the best week one bet for college football? Were they
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: listed two or three to go from? And Clemson plus
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: ten and a half was their best bet back at RG.org.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Gambling expert it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Was clemson 10 and plus 10 and a half was
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: the best one because for all the hype of lsu
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: all the talent it's all new to each other it's
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: a new offense it's a new head coach it's a
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: new quarterback they may end up being great along the
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: way but who's to say right away we automatically think
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: lsu night game dominance also clemson mac has first round
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: draft choices at every level of that defense up front Now, linebacker, Hampton,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: they have defensive talent still there.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: If you read mock drafts, they're all first-rounders. They got studs.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: So you're saying health, Sammy Brown, and Hampton?
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd go first-round. By the way,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed, Bo, they had a
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: lot of draft picks last year.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: No, I know, but I've.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Seen mock drafts that has all three guys listed somewhere
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: within the first round.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: That's interesting. Definitely three balls.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: So I'm not saying that Clemson's going to win, but
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I think that the vibe about this game throughout the
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: summer was, wow, LSU's favored by 11, 11 and a half. Boy,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Clemson's going to get their doors blown off. I don't
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: think so anymore. I'm not sure about the focus level
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: of that football program when you've got court cases going
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: on two days before. You've got– what's the chemistry like?
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: You're bringing in players from the NFL. You're taking time
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: away from other guys. What's the chemistry level like right
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: now in general? But then you throw all this in there.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't see LSU being a– Judge
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: or not, right away. Finish product. Right away.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to think that, too. I thought during the summer,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: double-digit win. I'm starting, too, to feel like, can Clemson
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: have themselves in this game? I don't know if I'm
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: saying win it, but can they have themselves in this game? Now,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: there are some people— I' m already seeing it on the text
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: line— that think— that what Dabo said yesterday, Bone, is going
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to hurt Clemson. I'll read one of those texts. 704 number. Guys,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: all these points about Clemson covering the spread sound good,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: but I fear that Dabo uncovered the spread himself yesterday
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: when he took shots at Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin going
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to want to hang half a hundred on Dabo. Here
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: is that comment. This is a theory, too, that we
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: could explore as well. Is LSU distracted, or did Dabo
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Sweeney just motivate them? Listen to what Dabo said, which,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: by the way, I agree with 100% of what Dabo said.
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: Rarely am I at a loss for words, but Chapel Womack,
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: kind of a loss of words. I would just say
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: it's kind of embarrassing. I mean, honestly, it's just embarrassing
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: that that's where we are. I don't blame the kids
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: and people trying to take advantage of the system. I
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: just think it's embarrassing where we are with college football.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: We've been there for a while, so I just keep
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: my energy and my focus and my energy on the
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: things that I control and the things that matter, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: that's these kids here and our team. But all that
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: outside stuff, we just kind of, no pun intended, we
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: just stay in our lane here at.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Clemson, try to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: Every now and then somebody will ram into us, but
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: we try to just kind of handle our business here.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: But it's embarrassing.
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: I mean, it really is. You know, we have no rules.
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: There's no governance.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's a joke.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: There's zero rules. And when you enforce rules, somebody just
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: goes and finds a judge to say, no, you can't
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: enforce that rule. So, I mean, never did I think
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: I'd be living in an era like this, but that's
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: where we are. You know, hopefully, eventually there'll be different
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: things coming down the pipe.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Preach, baby. Preach, Dabo.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: People are laughing at Dabo saying he's at a loss
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: for words that he spoke for five straight minutes.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Yellow snow.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: That's Mac every day from 6 to 10. Yellow snow.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I don't even try to tell you I'm at a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: loss for words. That's funny. By the way, the narrator voice,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: pun was intended. The pun was intended 100%. And it
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: was funny. Stay in our lane. So what do you believe?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: This dude says, earlier in the show, first hour, we
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: got a text. I guess I didn't save it or
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: copy and paste it. It was an LSU fan bone
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that said, Dabo... noted lane kiffin is going to try
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: his best to embarrass dabbo after his gun dabbo did
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: say in another part in the presser he's very proud
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: of lane and how lane has worked to improve himself
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: as a human being he did throw that in there
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: even though he doesn't know a little bit What do
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: you think, Bone? You seem to subscribe to the LSU
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: could be distracted theory by all that's going on with
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the NFL players and stuff. Do you not subscribe at
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: all to Lane Kiffin now?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: It's personal.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: If Lane Kiffin, Mac, has to keep track of all
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: that's said about him, he's going to be a very
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: busy man throughout his days. His bulletin board, Mac, is
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: like three miles wide right now. I think it's more
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: of the distraction than the focus. It's not just that.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: It's the combination of what I said. This isn't a
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: team that knows each other where we've seen them compartmentalize
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: and focus on the task at hand. We don't know
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: what that looks like yet. We don't know what this
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: operation looks like yet, even without the distracted stuff going on.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: So to me, it's going to be hard to think
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: that you're going to get the best of LSU with
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: all that surrounds it right now and then all the newness.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: So the more we talk about it, the more this
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: goes on, I think that LSU wins. But this is
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: going to be... This is going to be a lot
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: closer than I thought it was. This is such a juicy,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: fun matchup. And it was only 17-10 last year. It
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: wasn't like LSU went in there and blew out Clemson
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: last year. Well, Clemson was supposed to be the team.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Last year, Clemson was the team. Everybody thought it was
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: the Heat. Everybody thought Clemson was going to have the
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: LSU in their Death Valley. So it's a complete role reversal,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: no doubt about it. If you are a Clemson fan,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: are you starting to feel a little more positive about
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: this game?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Maybe you felt positive the whole way.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: 704-570-9610.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I do want to ask about who people are rooting
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: for in this matchup because Gator Rube says, I hate
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: both of these bleepity bleepers. Meaning Dabo and Lane. Another texter, Bone.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Where was our guy at? Country something. Big country. Big country.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: What was he saying? Did you read his text, Bone?
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It says, who does Bone want to win? I'm confused myself.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: That's someone who hates both these teams and these guys. Okay,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: so we have another South Carolina fan. Bone, I have
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: not told anybody this. I also am wondering in a
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: weird way, do I actually want Clemson to win? This
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: is a weird one. Explain yourself already. I don't know
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: if rooting is the right word. It's one of those odd,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: like if Clemson gets their doors blown off, I'm not like, oh,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: golly gee, boy, that was horrible. I'm not sitting there singing,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you know, hold that tiger. But most of the time,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: if not.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: 100% of the time, Mac, I'm full anti-Clemson in this
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: particular game here. If they found a way to win
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: and LSU got embarrassed, it's not a normal situation where
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, my God, I can't. I'm not rooting
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: for Clemson, but I'm all right if they do win
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: this football game.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Does that make any sense? Okay.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Also, a couple reasons here. Number one, I don't view
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Clemson as the threat they used to be anymore. South
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Carolina has proven they can hang with them. But you're
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: right about that. South Carolina is the better team going
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: into this season. Also, think about South Carolina two years
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: ago when they were– fighting for the playoff spot, think
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: about who they were fighting with.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: It was Alabama. It was Ole Miss.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: They were compared to teams within their conference. So if
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: LSU has a loss on the board already.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Are you already rooting against playoff contenders?
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Do you feel that frisky about your Gamecocks? Looking ahead,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: LSU gets some losses. That does benefit South Carolina if
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: you're doing resume stuff.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I just don't view South Carolina as a playoff contender.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Here's what we're going to do. You're going to give
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: your opinion because I just gave mine, Hondo.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I respect what you're saying because Lane Kiffin is
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: public enemy number one. AC says, I can promise you this,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: nobody outside of Louisiana is pulling for LSU. Well, are
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Gamecock fans pulling for LSU? There's someone here that are.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Bone talked about why he's torn.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, they are?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's someone here that are. You want Clemson to
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: have this huge win? That's the only thing.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Bone, but if you're a
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Gamecock fan, do you realize how celebrated nationally Clemson will be?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Do you realize the promo Dabo will cut? With Holly
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Roe or whoever it is.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I don't even know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Laura Rutledge will be on the sidelines.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Whoever the sideline reporter is. Can you imagine, Bo? We
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: brought our own guts, everybody.
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: It was a bring your own guts game and a
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: bunch of nobodies went out there and beat some somebodies.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Little old Clemson rose up. We rode in here with
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: the rest of y'all buds.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Do you want that South Carolina fan? Do you know
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: why it doesn't bother me? Do you know why it
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't bother me? Because South Carolina will take care of
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: that end of the season. So let them be good.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: South Carolina could use a big one at the end
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: of the year. Make sure you're good, Clemson. So if
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: South Carolina beats you, it adds to the resume. Fitty,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: you and I looked at each other when Bone dismissed
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Clemson and said, we're a better team than you anyway.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: We both looked at each other. Do you feel like...
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Are they that far apart?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: It feels very even to me, and you said they
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: are better than them, like they're like a high school team.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: That's a toss-up to me. I know this. I would
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: pick Clemson to win more games.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Think about having this discussion five years ago and how
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: far it's come for South Carolina and where Clemson is now.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: It's more about Clemson's regression than the progression of South Carolina, though.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: South Carolina's come some ways under Shane Beamer, but we
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: can't rule out this program could fall flat on its
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: face once again, whereas Clemson five years ago was coming
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: off right there with Bama, the greatest run in the
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: modern era of the sport in the playoff era. And
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: they have regressed to that. I think they're very even.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I think that'll be a really good game that weekend
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: of Thanksgiving. But I wouldn't have said it the way
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: that you said it. You made it seem like it
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: was night and day that South Carolina is better than Clemson.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: And I don't get that sense going into the year.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Because I think Clemson won will win more games.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what? It was my opinion and not yours.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: So I'll say what I want to say. That's fine.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: And also, he asked me my opinion and I gave it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Did we ask for your opinion?
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: He actually did.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, did you? Yeah, I did.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you for chiming in. 919 number. Rev Kev has
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: your back. RevKev says, Bone, that was beautiful. As a
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: South Carolina fan, that was well said. 919Number says, Bone,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: how do you do it every day? Max sometimes just
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: wants to argue to argue. Yeah, the nerve of me
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: on a sports talk show to tell Bone I see
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: it differently. I didn't know the Boneyacs out there were
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: so damn sensitive. that I couldn't bring up a counterpoint.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Siddy, I hate to be the bearer of bad news,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: but you're going to let down Laura Rutledge Nation, by
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: the way. She's no longer on the college football stuff.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, I thought you were going to yesterday see you
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: in Baton Rouge.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, is she there for this? Oh, oh.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Because it's Holly Rowe on the sidelines now. Because remember,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Laura Rutledge is off SEC Nation. She's doing the NFL
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: stuff now.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Are they putting two sideline reporters on for this game?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: That might be it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: She's not listed for this game.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: We might have both been right.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: This texter says, Max Dabo victory speech, fake victory speech
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: was gold. Yeah, I felt good about it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I heard a lot of those. It's been a minute.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: But I feel pretty good about it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: We brought our own guts today. Everybody got off that
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: rest of y'all butts. Will you send us a break,
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: my ass dabble, sweetie? We're going to take a break, everybody.
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: I'm telling you, we got a bunch of nobodies around here.
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: But we're going to become somebodies before the.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Show is over.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. How dare you, Salty Pirate? Salty Pirate says
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: my dabbo sounds more like Jimbo. Does that make you Dumbo,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Salty Pirate?
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Oh! Oh! Oh!
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Love you, though, Salty Pirate, and I am rooting for
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: your ECU Pirates. I'm not sure that's going to help, though,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: against Alabama in Tuscaloosa on Saturday, but I would love
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: to see your boys. put on a good show, despite
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that text that you sent in there. Our next guest, Boney,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: he and the boys of Charlotte FC are on an
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: absolute roll right now. Man, they're playing well. And I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: love it when it happens in Atlanta, a house that
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: we are now owning when it comes to Charlotte FC
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and Atlanta United.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Rivalry? What rivalry?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Charlotte's gone in there now. after the 2-0 win on
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Saturday and won four straight. And the captain, Ashley Westwood,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: is here for a Westy win Wednesday on the Mac
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: and Bone Show.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Westy, congrats, man. How you doing?
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: Thank you, mate. Yeah, good morning.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Good morning.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: We're all good.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: We're all good.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a good result in our second home.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Hey, I was going to say congrats on owning another home.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Westy, you've obviously played in a lot of, you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: what y'all call derbies over there, right?
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: A lot of rivalries.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: This one, you travel a little further, right, than those
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: local rivalries have. um, where you're from, but man, fans
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: show up every time. There's two things that are guaranteed
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: to happen. It feels like y'all are going to win
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: and fans are going to be loud as heck that,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: that has to feel good winning a match specifically like that. Right.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah. It's especially, that's probably one of the only games
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: where you get a good number of away supporters. So
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: for them to turn up again, it goes, I said
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: it a lot of time. That's the reason our home
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: form is so good. when our fans turn up, we
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: turn up, and it's the same in Atlanta. It's unique.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: Before the game, we go over and clap, and then after,
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: it's just like a tradition that we do at home.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: We do appreciate it, and the performances we put in
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: are always for them.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: The other day on the broadcast, Dax McCarthy was the
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: analyst for the game, and multiple times he was putting
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Pep in the MVP conversation. How happy does that make
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: you feel that Pep could get at least recognition and
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: put up in a conversation like that from a national analyst?
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: He deserves it, and I think last year he was
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: very close to it. Unfortunately, he just suffered an injury
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: in the league's cup games, which I think was his hamstring,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: but This year, he stayed fit. He's picked off from
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: where he left off last year. I think it's just
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: the contributions he gives to the team. Whenever we're playing well,
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Pep's usually the one that delivers.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Dude, those guys in front of you right now, you
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: can feel something happening, right? Pep is Mr.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Consistent. If he's healthy, you're right.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: He's there all the time producing goal contributions. But Maxie
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: feels like he gets better and more fit every time out.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, that second goal when he ran through half
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the dang defense to set up a Bata, and then
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: a Bata, He's a new guy since the World Cup break.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: And then I feel like Toklamati's rounding back into form. Like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: how good do you feel when you can get it
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to those four dudes in front of you?
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Makes my job easier. I don't have to do as
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: much running. I think Maxi was electric the other night.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: And I think the way we're, listen, we're a team,
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: you would class us as a European team. We're very much,
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: we sit in our 4-4-2, we defend, we're very organized team.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: And I think you find a lot of the MLS teams,
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: they can be a bit chaos. They just all go
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: forward man for man. So it could suit us with
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: Maxi just exploiting it the way he can run at
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: people 1v1. And you've got Liel's the same. You've got Idan.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: And then you've got, to be fair, Archie. Archie Goodwin's
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: been pushing Idan as well. And I say all the time,
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: you need competition for places. And we've certainly got that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: We have a listener text question for you here, Cap.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Since you now are the mayor of Atlanta, do you
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: enjoy the Waffle House?
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: I'm not a big fan of the Waffle House. I
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: probably need a few drinks and a late night for that.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: Henry Kessler took over the aquarium as well on Sunday.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: He stayed over and walked around the aquarium. We've took
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: over the Mercedes-Benz, and Charlotte now owns the aquarium.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. That is hilarious.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I thought for sure he might be a Waffle House guy.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: So what is it, Westy? What is it with the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Waffle House that you don't like? Because I feel like
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: that's a Southern institution in this country.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: I've never tried it. Obviously, I'm an English breakfast guy.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: I can't get my head around eating waffles in the morning.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: What is English? Let Mac and I take the lads out.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: We'll have a waffle house day.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Field trip? We should do a show from the waffle
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: house one week.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: We would.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: We've done it before. We did.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: We, we broadcasted it. We lost a bet and had
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: to broadcast from a waffle house in Georgia. We had
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: to drive three hours away.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. That's your state, you know, Georgia. Yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Westy, what, okay. For, for those of us here in
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the States that think of our breakfast, right. Of, you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: it might be eggs or it might be like you say, waffles, pancakes,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: French toast. What is the quintessential English breakfast?
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: It's a big fry-up. See, you'd have– and the bacon's different.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: We'd have back bacon, sausage links, poached or fried eggs
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: or scrambled, mushrooms, tomatoes, and baked beans with a few
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: slices of toast.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that bean.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: That beans part is where you lose me, though.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Beans in the morning?
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: I will get you some. I'm going to send some
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: into the studio for you. You can try it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Westy, we don't need this man eating beans anymore.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Let's just not send those. Why not pick those up
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: from you? That would be dangerous.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Now, as a former player myself, my pregame meal in
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: my playing days was burgers and fries. What's your normal
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: pregame meal consist of?
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: I hope our nutritionist isn't listening.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: No, they're not.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: So a home game, obviously I take the little girl,
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: we go, she does horse riding. So I'll drop her
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: off at the stables and then I'll go, I'll go
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: Starbucks and get a ham and cheese baguette.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Which is not the healthiest. I'll come home and then I'll,
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: I won't eat them until about two o'clock. I'm not
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: a big eater on match day. On about two o'clock,
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: I'll then order, I order a little mama's takeaway. I
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: have a vodka pasta chicken.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: That's a good carb loading there for you on game day.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, I like that.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: I'm simple. I'm very easy.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I like that. Ashley Westwood, captain of Charlotte FC, joining us.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: They're on fire. Fifth in the East right now. And
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: this match on Saturday, like, Houston's not a team, you know,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that we necessarily see, you know, routinely. It's not like
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: one of the Eastern Conference squads that we know better.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: But this team is having a heck of a season.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: This is a hell of a match if y'all are
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: looking for something to do on Saturday night. Houston is
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: second in the table. You guys are one of the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: hottest teams in the league post-World Cup break. What's this
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Houston team do well? And how big of a deal?
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: This is a good litmus test match for y'all. Plus,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: y'all want to keep rising up the standings, too.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to be a real tough game. Like
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: you said, they're second in their league. But we're at
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: home and I don't think they've been to us yet.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting to see how they do the turf.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: I know they've just lost the midfielder to... He's just
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: gone to Stoke City, so that's good for us. They
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: can keep losing players. But no, it's going to be
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: a tough game. But I think we go into any
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: game at home feeling confident. So we should... We're looking
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: to go and get the win, and like you said,
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: we're one of the formed teams, so we need to
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: carry that momentum into Saturday.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: It's also Christian Kalina bobblehead night, isn't it? There you go.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've seen it. It's great. It's very good. Awesome.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: All right, get there early. Grab yourself a Cali bobblehead. Westy,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: we always have fun. We're guaranteed to talk soccer or football,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: as you would call it, and then we never know
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: where the rest of it's going to go.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: But you do it. You are amazing.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: At playing along with our shenanigans. And we learned a
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: lot about English Breakfast today. We appreciate you, brother. Good
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: luck on Saturday, man. We hope to talk to you
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: on another Win Wednesday next week.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: Thanks for having me again. See you next week.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: All right, be good. There you go. Oh, he called
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: his shot. He said, we'll be on here next week.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Although they got a Wednesday match at Montreal, but we
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: can work them in Tuesday, win Tuesday, but they got
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: to go do it against Houston. Tickets available, charlottefootballclub.com. I'm
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: telling you, this is a hell of a matchup on
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Saturday night. I did want to mention, Bone, the MLS
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: transfer window closes later today. I don't know if Charlotte
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: FC is going to do anything else tonight. I had
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: really been hopeful that they would do something else. Dean
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Smith had been kind of saying, I think we're going
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: to add to that final, you know, fill that final
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: senior member spot. I don't know if anything's going to
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: happen on the final day, but they're playing so well,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: it's almost like I don't think, I don't know if
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: it's worth freaking out.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: If they don't, they're playing so well.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 45:41
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• 45:46
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