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A Life-Changing Experience for Kids in Need · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the City that Never sleeps.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Salem Medium is a man
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  Speaker 1: Mccallch and that guy would like a word with you.
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  Speaker 5: It's Kevin McCullough Monday through Friday on That Kevin Show
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  Speaker 5: and Now from the Connors and Sullivan Broadcast Studios. A
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  Speaker 5: man who is not what he wants to be, but
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  Speaker 5: is way grateful that is not who he used to be.
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  Speaker 1: Here, I'd have you this.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you to those of you that are helping us
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  Speaker 2: with our Angel Tree camp system. Friends, we have less
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  Speaker 2: than one hundred children to go now thank you to
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  Speaker 2: those of you yesterday who added another almost a dozen
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  Speaker 2: kids to the roster. And now we're now counting down
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  Speaker 2: from that magical number of one hundred, and I would
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  Speaker 2: like to get all the way to zero by the
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  Speaker 2: time we're done. But friends, it's going to take every
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  Speaker 2: one of us that can say, hey, I can help
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  Speaker 2: a kid experience camp this year, and I want to
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  Speaker 2: do it, and I want to make sure that I
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  Speaker 2: get it across the finish line because we're running out
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  Speaker 2: of time. And if there were just ninety eight of
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  Speaker 2: you that heard me talking right now, and we're on
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  Speaker 2: four hundred radio stations, so one in every four radio
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  Speaker 2: stations listening right now, if one person out of every
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  Speaker 2: four radio station said, you know what I can do.
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  Speaker 2: I can do a one time gift of two hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars or two one month gifts of one hundred dollars each,
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. But I want to make sure that one
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  Speaker 2: of these kids gets to camp. Friends, it would just
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  Speaker 2: mean the world to me personally, but it would mean
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  Speaker 2: even more to the child who you make it happen for.
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  Speaker 2: So we're at roughly sixty three kids sent to camp today.
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  Speaker 2: Can we get another twelve kids and get to seventy
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  Speaker 2: five this hour, could we have twelve kids, twelve people
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  Speaker 2: who said, you know what, Kevin, I'm gonna see to
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  Speaker 2: it that one of those children gets to go to
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  Speaker 2: camp this summer. For two hundred dollars, you can take
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  Speaker 2: care of all of the expenses that they have for
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  Speaker 2: the camp and they will have the time of their life.
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  Speaker 2: But most importantly, they will meet Jesus firsthand in the
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  Speaker 2: lives of the counselors and the teachers and everybody else
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  Speaker 2: that they'll come into contact with, and it will change
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  Speaker 2: their life for good. So for those of you that
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  Speaker 2: have participated already, thank you. We got a really late start.
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  Speaker 2: Their phone lines weren't working. You have to go to
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  Speaker 2: that kevinshow dot com and click the banner at the
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  Speaker 2: top of the page. And I know there's a big
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  Speaker 2: hesitation to always just do things on the internet with
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  Speaker 2: my audience, so I'm asking you please stretch outside of
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  Speaker 2: your comfort zone. Please, if you're a phone person, say okay,
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  Speaker 2: this time, this one time, I will use my phone
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  Speaker 2: to go to the website and click the banner, and
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  Speaker 2: then I'll give the gift and I'll make sure that
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  Speaker 2: a kid gets to go to Christian camp from the
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  Speaker 2: Angel Try program. These kids, they all have the same
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  Speaker 2: thing in common. They had parents who went to prison,
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  Speaker 2: and through no fault of the child at all, they've
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  Speaker 2: had a life that's been punishing them for that ever since.
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  Speaker 2: So if the if the parent in the prison goes
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  Speaker 2: through the Angel Tree Bible Study program and they get
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  Speaker 2: to the end and they graduate, they get to nominate
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  Speaker 2: their kid for a week of Christian camp where their
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  Speaker 2: child can meet the same Jesus that they just met
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  Speaker 2: in the prison going through the Bible Study program. Here's
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  Speaker 2: what we need you to do. We had one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and sixty two names to start the campaign off with
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  Speaker 2: the first two weeks we lost completely because the phone
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  Speaker 2: lines weren't working. We're behind schedule, We're up against the wall.
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  Speaker 2: It's so bad, and I want to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: all one hundred and sixty two kids get taken care of.
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  Speaker 2: So we have ninety nine to go. Can I have
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine of you help us? Ninety eight of you
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  Speaker 2: help us? Say yes, we will. We will do this
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  Speaker 2: right now. Friends, you have if you're looking for a
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  Speaker 2: way to make a massive impact in the Kingdom, and
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  Speaker 2: you've got some expendable income. A ten thousand dollars gift
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  Speaker 2: I believe would get forty children to camp. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're willing to do that, I'll fly you in New York.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have dinner together. I'll say thank you personally for
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  Speaker 2: doing it. But whether you can do ten thousand or not,
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  Speaker 2: can you do a one time gift of two hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars or a two month gift of one hundred dollars
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  Speaker 2: in each month. If you can do that, we can
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  Speaker 2: get all of these kids to Christian camp this summer.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know about where you live, but here
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  Speaker 2: in the Tri State area, if you want to send
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  Speaker 2: a kid to a Christian camp out of pocket, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to cost you five hundred to one thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: depending on the camp, depending on where it's located, and
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  Speaker 2: so forth. These kids, their entire camp will be taken
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  Speaker 2: care of because these camps are investing in these kids
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  Speaker 2: as well. So we need your help. I need ninety
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  Speaker 2: eight valiant, incredible warriors for what is good to step
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  Speaker 2: forward and say count me in, keV, I'm in, We're
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  Speaker 2: ready to go. We must get these kids to camp.
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  Speaker 2: And I just I want you so badly to help
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  Speaker 2: us do what we need to do to get them there.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the phone number, not the phone number, the website
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  Speaker 2: that Kevinshow dot com, that Kevinshow dot com. All right,
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  Speaker 2: we've also got some breaking news that we're gonna keep
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  Speaker 2: you on top of as well. The latest in Iran
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  Speaker 2: is really very quite I find it quite puzzling because
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  Speaker 2: the president has I think a number of options at
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  Speaker 2: his disposal, and we're going to talk with Katie McFarland
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  Speaker 2: about this. The options are what he could do, what
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  Speaker 2: he knows he can do, what he could do if
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  Speaker 2: the Europeans helped, what he could do if Iran showed
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  Speaker 2: an uncharacteristic tendency of wanting to help and bring this
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  Speaker 2: to a conclusion faster. But they all contained the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: The uranium has to leave Iranian hands. The Iranian that's
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  Speaker 2: buried under the mountains, we have to dig it up,
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  Speaker 2: and we have to get it out. Kazakhstan has offered
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  Speaker 2: to take it off our hands. Russia has the ability
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  Speaker 2: to deal with this, China could deal with this material.
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  Speaker 2: The US certainly could deal with this material, though to
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  Speaker 2: be honest, we're the furthest away, we're the least likely
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  Speaker 2: possibility of making any sense of any of it. But
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  Speaker 2: in all of those scenarios, it gets it out of
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  Speaker 2: the hands of the Iranians. And that's what Even if
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  Speaker 2: you're China or Russia or Kazakhstan, at this point, you've
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  Speaker 2: seen enough crazy come from Iran. They can't have they
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  Speaker 2: can't have enrich nuclear material. You just can't let them
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  Speaker 2: have uranium. It's just not it's not feasible. They are
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  Speaker 2: nuts and when they lose, when they lose their temper,
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  Speaker 2: they get even crazier. They've still been attacking the last
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  Speaker 2: three days. They've still been attacking their neighbors, trying to
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  Speaker 2: shoot desalinization plants for water supplies and other things. And
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  Speaker 2: if you're Saudi Arabia, if you're the Qataris, if you're
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  Speaker 2: you know, in any number of these countries.
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  Speaker 6: You're like.
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  Speaker 2: They're the they're the only ally quasi allies that Iran
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  Speaker 2: had going into this and they have just continually injured
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  Speaker 2: that relationship as they've gone along. So the president is
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  Speaker 2: still working through what Heath feels like will be the
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  Speaker 2: best deal. I'm going to ask KTU in the second hour,
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  Speaker 2: what what do you what actually make of who we're
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  Speaker 2: dealing with? Are we dealing with people that can actually
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  Speaker 2: make decisions? Because their president resigned and then he didn't,
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  Speaker 2: he unresigned, and then he resigned again. And who knows
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  Speaker 2: what the truth is today? I mean, it could be
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  Speaker 2: something brand new all over that, and then there's something
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  Speaker 2: else we're keeping eye on today. Today is election day
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  Speaker 2: in a number of states. California is going to the polls.
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  Speaker 2: New Jersey is going to the polls. There's a number
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  Speaker 2: of people that are that are that are going to
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  Speaker 2: the polls that that all need, you know, active participation.
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  Speaker 2: So if your state has voting today, go vote.
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  Speaker 6: I did it. In the middle of the day.
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  Speaker 2: I got some of my stuff done, I said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: got a little window, zipped over to the school where
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  Speaker 2: I vote cast my ballot, did it.
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  Speaker 6: There was nobody there.
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  Speaker 2: And on a low election turnout, your vote actually counts
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  Speaker 2: much more than it normally would because the fewer the participants,
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  Speaker 2: the more impact. Every vote matters. So even if you've
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  Speaker 2: had a load turnout in your district today.
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  Speaker 6: Tell your people go vote. Let's go vote.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the best candidates lined up for the November
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  Speaker 2: general elections as we can. All right, that's all straight ahead,
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  Speaker 2: Kevin mccallough. We got a big, big show, big heavyweight
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  Speaker 7: Here he is from New York. Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, It's Kevin McCullough. It's Tuesday, and
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about how we live. How do we live
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  Speaker 2: in the context of a culture that hates God, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have any use for his word, doesn't really have any
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  Speaker 2: use for us if we depend on those things in
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  Speaker 2: our life. We are taking a very interesting look at
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  Speaker 2: this through the lens of First Kings nineteen this week,
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  Speaker 2: and we are so glad to have Pastor Sophia Jenkins
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  Speaker 2: back with us, who was the pastor and founder of
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  Speaker 2: RUOC Outreach Ministries New Jersey. This week, the anatomy of
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  Speaker 2: the cave, kind of the big idea Elijah was in
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  Speaker 2: a cave. He went into a cave after having a huge, huge,
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  Speaker 2: demonstrable win for the force of what is good and Sofia.
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  Speaker 2: We were saying yesterday that oftentimes those big accomplishments, those
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  Speaker 2: big mountaintop experiences, they can be followed by some real
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  Speaker 2: doubt and tension and negativity and those types of things.
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  Speaker 2: And so we're picking up the discussion yesterday we were
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  Speaker 2: looking at the kind of the post high crash, if
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  Speaker 2: you will, What are we looking at today?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so where Elijah picks up from yesterday's victory hangover
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  Speaker 8: as we coin that's right on the road to the cave.
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  Speaker 8: Today we find ourselves really in the context of his reality,
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  Speaker 8: where he's facing a distorted reality because he entered into
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  Speaker 8: this cave and therein there's an echo chamber of just
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  Speaker 8: one right, So Verses nine and ten are where we
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  Speaker 8: cover where he is confronted by God. The Angel of
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  Speaker 8: the Lord appears and asks what are you doing here? Elijah?
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  Speaker 8: And he repeats, with a bit of rigidity, like a
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  Speaker 8: rehearsed script, that I have been very jealous for you,
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  Speaker 8: and I even I only am left. He repeats that
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  Speaker 8: word for word verbatim twice in the chapter. And one
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  Speaker 8: of the things that really resonates with me about this
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  Speaker 8: particular passage is the concept of the cave. So in
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  Speaker 8: Hebrews mayrah and the Hebrew word there shares a root
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  Speaker 8: word with rr, which means to strip, bear or to
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  Speaker 8: completely isolate. So entering into this cave for Elijah is
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  Speaker 8: a physical representation of being psychologically stripped of all relational context.
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  Speaker 8: There's no more feedback loops from others, insights that others
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  Speaker 8: can share, and he's essentially fully distanced himself from his
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  Speaker 8: former external reality. And so to be zealous forgotten certainly
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  Speaker 8: could be a great thing. That's the Hebrew word there,
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  Speaker 8: kennat and knat carries this color of a burning, intense heat,
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  Speaker 8: and when you're connected to a community, that's the fire
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  Speaker 8: that can warm you, it can build, it can be
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  Speaker 8: used for good. But when you carry canna into the cave,
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  Speaker 8: this place where you're isolated from that community, that burning
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  Speaker 8: heat has no outward expression. So it turns inward and
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  Speaker 8: turns healthy passion into this toxicity of self righteousness. And
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  Speaker 8: that's where we find.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds very similar to me sephere to Martha after
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  Speaker 2: Lazarus has died, but before Jesus has called him from
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  Speaker 2: the dead, because if you'll remember, and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: who is it Martha that comes first? And she said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, only Lord, if you'd been here and look
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  Speaker 2: at all the work that I've done. And Mary, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she just she just sits. Uh, there's there's there's this.
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  Speaker 2: There's this tendency sometimes for those of us that serve
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  Speaker 2: in different capacities. And I think I've been guilty of
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  Speaker 2: this myself, of wanting to say to God, but look
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  Speaker 2: at all the stuff I've done for you, as if
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  Speaker 2: he as if he needed me to do that on
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  Speaker 2: some level, because he doesn't need anything. I mean that
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  Speaker 2: that's it's kind of laughable, actually, But we do have
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  Speaker 2: this kind of worked up you call it distortion view
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  Speaker 2: of just how important we are.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, And it's unfortunate because as much good as
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  Speaker 8: we can do for the king, and when we start
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  Speaker 8: to allow that to accumulate as some type of credibility
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  Speaker 8: for righteousness, when it's not. It's the least that we
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  Speaker 8: can do, right, it's our reasonable service, our reasonable sacrifice,
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  Speaker 8: because compared to God, compared to Christ, the sacrifice that
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  Speaker 8: was made is nothing that we can amount to, so
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  Speaker 8: we tail in comparison. Will always need him more than
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  Speaker 8: he needs us, is the fact. And when without other
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  Speaker 8: people challenging that self righteousness, without that community around us
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  Speaker 8: to even validate good perceptions, we lose this calibration of
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  Speaker 8: our cognition and then what happens is our internal fears
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  Speaker 8: suddenly become external facts. And that's where Elijah was his
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  Speaker 8: verbatim repeating of that term in distance of his actions
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  Speaker 8: shows that he's stuck in this loop of consciousness. So
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  Speaker 8: he's rehearsed his misery so many times that he can't
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  Speaker 8: even process new information, and that oftentimes is rare. As
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  Speaker 8: a society, we find ourselves as believers because we're surrounded,
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  Speaker 8: much like you said in the beginning, by this anti
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  Speaker 8: god rhetoric, anti righteous practices, but they've become so commonplace
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  Speaker 8: that essentially isolation becomes normative.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think too, that there's a natural part
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  Speaker 2: of our fallen nature that loves to wallow in the
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  Speaker 2: pity of self, and I think that that's something that
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Holy Spirit does begin to sanctify and
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  Speaker 2: work on when we become believers. But I think I
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  Speaker 2: see it in my kids. You know, Dad, you know
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  Speaker 2: you didn't do this for me last time, but you
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  Speaker 2: did it for him and for her. And how come
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  Speaker 2: I'm the one that And it's easy, I think, even
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  Speaker 2: for adults to fall into this on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you've ever been around people that are entrepreneurs,
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  Speaker 2: business owners, they have ups and they have downs, and
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  Speaker 2: you know it doesn't run as easy and as clockwork
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  Speaker 2: is like just a nine to five job doing it all.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that for spouses sometimes it can be
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  Speaker 2: you know, tempting to say that those circumstances just you know,
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  Speaker 2: are always against you, the decks always stacked, You're always
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  Speaker 2: you know, somehow disadvantaged from something. And I think that we,
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  Speaker 2: I think, as believers, we really need to guard against that.
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  Speaker 2: And you talked about community speaking into us and calibrating
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  Speaker 2: it for us. That's where a really godly spouse comes
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  Speaker 2: in so important for us because they see things that
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  Speaker 2: we don't, and they can say things to us that
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  Speaker 2: no one else can say, and they need to because
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  Speaker 2: we need to hear it.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely. It's that sort of panoramic view that we can't
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  Speaker 8: have ourselves. We have this funnel tunnel vision. Right when
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  Speaker 8: you take those insights from the external sources, you're then
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  Speaker 8: piecing together a panoramic image to see things that you
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  Speaker 8: would otherwise have missed. And I think about it this way,
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  Speaker 8: when you compare this type of isolation to social media algorithms,
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  Speaker 8: you find a startling truth. Right when you isolate yourself
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  Speaker 8: from different points of view into this echo chamber that
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  Speaker 8: feeds you, like that algorithm, only what you already believe.
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  Speaker 8: It only serves to reinforce concepts and principles that you've
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  Speaker 8: already accepted, so the challenges are gone. It drives you
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  Speaker 8: into this position of paranoia. And then Elijah really serves
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  Speaker 8: as an ancient analogue chamber of one, and that's where
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  Speaker 8: we find ourselves if we.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it just so happens that he's physically in
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  Speaker 2: an echo chamber of one. Like literally, whatever he says,
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  Speaker 2: it's just going to bounce off the wall and come
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  Speaker 2: back to him. But we live in rhetorical echo chambers
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  Speaker 2: easily all the time.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, yes, indeed, here's the one point I'll share. It says,
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  Speaker 8: when you isolate yourself, indicate the only voice you hear
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  Speaker 8: is the echo of your own trauma and your fears
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  Speaker 8: being stopped being feelings and you start being treated as facts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's powerful. When you said that a
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  Speaker 2: moment ago, I wanted to hit on that, that the
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  Speaker 2: internal fears and they're not they're still not facts. But
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  Speaker 2: it's because we it's because we lack the perspective of
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  Speaker 2: understanding what they are or are not that that And
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  Speaker 2: so so far in this Elijah's not on a good path.
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  Speaker 2: So far, he's struggling with his own perceptions and he's
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  Speaker 2: even with the angels here asking him these questions. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to get into what happens next and how this
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  Speaker 2: kind of unfolds in the remaining three days. But Sofia,
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  Speaker 2: you've got me thinking big time, and I just want
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  Speaker 2: to say thank you for helping us work it through.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you for having me. And it's my
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  Speaker 8: goodlight to be here.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: You got it. Friends.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Read First Kings nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we're going to be in all week and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: then be here every day as we continue through this series.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough, very glad to have you with us. We've
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: got a lot to get to. Both hours of the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: show are going to be full of news and newsmakers.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Hope you'll stay with us. It's that Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 9: Stick around for more that Kevin next.
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  Speaker 7: Here he is from New York. That Kevin. Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to that Kevin Show, that kevinshow dot Com.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Kevin mccaullugh, Glad to have you with us. Yes, I
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of a lisp of still recovering
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: from some of the injuries that I had, But we're
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: grateful to be where we are because when you look
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: around and you see where you could be, it should
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: bring about a deep sense of gratitude for all the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: good that God has brought you.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: And from one of.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Those perspectives, specifically in my own life, every time we
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: would get to this stage of the year where the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: weekends start getting bright and warm and maybe even hot,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and you think about swimming, and you think about air conditioning,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and you think about fun, and you think about all
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the stuff that summer will bring about. For me, when
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I was a kid growing up, it was always about
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: getting to go to camp. I wanted to be at
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: camp so bad. Camp was such a fun place to
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: be and I was not the son of an incarcerated parent.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: But I did have.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Parents who were going through some stress. My mom had cancer,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: there were some other things that were weighing down in
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: our home. My final few years that I was able
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to go to camp, and the importance of the Christian
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Fellowship and the people that loved on me and all
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the rest of it. It just made such a world
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: of difference. And I didn't face one tenth of the
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: things that the kids that are in the Angeltry program
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: face before they get there. So I can only imagine
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: if camp had that kind of like exponential impact on me,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: how much it has on a kid who is really
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: insecure about everything related to their future. Where their parents are,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: will they even remember them when they get out of prison,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: what's going on, etc. Steve Collins is back with us,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and Steve is one of the senior camp directors at
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Forrangel Tree, and he's been at it for twenty five years.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: He's a veteran at it. But Steve, you know the magic.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: There is something about taking a kid from a sweatbox
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: public housing project and putting him in the beautiful outdoor experience,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: fresh air, bright stars at night. If you live in
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a major city. You may not have ever seen stars
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: in the sky at night because in the city they're
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: hard to see. But in places like where the Angel
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Tree camps are in all fifty states, wide open skies, beautiful,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: breathtaking stars at night, and things like horseback riding or
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: learning new games and making new friends and doing all
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: these things. These are emotional power bombs that go off
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: in the heart of the kid. I mean, it's just
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: like they've never experienced it before. It's like having lived
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: your whole life just watching black and white movies and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: then you see a movie in color for the first time.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: You're like, what, it's that kind of kind of overwhelming
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: in a good way, sensory experience. Talk about what kind
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: of impact that has on the heart of the child,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: especially as they may be coming for their first time.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's amazing how much of an impact. Is hard
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: to overstate the impact that that outdoor setting has on
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: these kids, because, yeah, for so many of them, they
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: barely ever step foot off of concrete, and so when
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: they get into this outdoor setting. There's been studies that
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: show that getting into the outdoor setting relief stress. It
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: calms the anxiety that these kids live with on a
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: daily basis, and it opens up their minds to new possibilities.
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: And so getting out into nature, hiking down a trail
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: through a pine forest, or riding a zip line between
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: oak trees, or swimming in a lake that maybe is
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: a little too cold to be comfortable, but it's just
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: an vigorating experience. You know, these types of things that
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: kids would not get to experience in the city, they
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: get to experience in that outdoor setting. And when kids
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: get into the outdoor setting and they see the stars,
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: like you said, and they hear the birds stirring, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: they see the trees swaying in the breeze, it opens
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: our minds to the creator. That God is a very loving,
• 25:24
  Speaker 10: present God, and he has created something beautiful in this world.
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: And it's not just about concrete and stress.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you touch on something there that in
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: classical education we talk about a lot, but we don't
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: do a lot of classical education anymore, and that is
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: beauty is one of those things, one of God's gifts
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to us. And we see it in nature. We see
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: it in the design of the sky and clouds and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: sun and the deep blue and everything else. But again,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: the most important part, friends, because the goal of all
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: of this is to bring Jesus into the life of
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: this family. And if you're just joining us, and you're saying, Kevin,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: how does the program even work? Well, it starts with
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: the parent who's incarcerated.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: That parent.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Has on some level been associated with the Prison Fellowship program.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: In prison, they've completed their Bible study program, many of
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: them are still studying with the prison Fellowship program. Some
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: of them have accepted Jesus, a vast majority of them do.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And as they are going through the different levels of
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: what they're able to do in the prison program, they're
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: given the opportunity at Christmas time. They give them the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: opportunity to nominate their kid to receive a present on
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: behalf of them. And that's where Angel Tree got started.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: It was about helping kids who would not have anything
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: otherwise at Christmas experience or Christmas in the name of
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: their parent on behalf of somebody that gave the gift.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: The camping thing came a couple of years after that,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: but I think it's equally important. It's another opportunity for
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: that child to kind of know that the parent not
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: only hasn't forgotten them, but actually wants them to receive
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: something very special and very unique and so important. If
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the parent has come to faith in Jesus, imagine how
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: badly they want the child to know Christ as well,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and getting them into an Angel Tree camp is really
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: a powerful way to do that. So here's what I
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: need you to do. Go to that Kevinshow dot com.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: That kevinshow dot com. Click the Angeltree banner at the
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: top of the page. We don't have a full number
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that'll work for you twenty four hours a day, so
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I just want you to go straight to the website
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and do this because we're losing time and I don't
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: want to leave any of the one hundred and sixty
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: two kids that we started with.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: I don't want to leave any of them out.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure we get all one hundred
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and sixty two of them to camp this year. That
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: kevinshow dot com. Click the angel Tree manner at the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: top of the page.
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: Go right now here.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: He is from New York. Kevin McCullough, Welcome back.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: It's that Kevin Show, That Kevin show.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: Dot com for all things associated.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Glad to have you with us. You know, one of
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the areas that we focus on regularly. Is the condition
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: of education. In fact, education reform, as I have spoken
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: with just people in general walks of life as the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: school year has been ending, is one of those things
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that I think is surprisingly still nagging at the heart
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: of many voters, particularly those of school aged kids, people
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: that have children in higher education, secondary education, elementary school.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: What we're getting for what we're paying and should it
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: be getting better than what it is is something that
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I hear talked about a lot. Jonathan Butcher is back
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: with us. He's the acting director of the Center for
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Education Policy at the Heritage Foundation. And Jonathan, always good
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: to see you. Thank you for being back. You've got
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: a new book coming out. You and some of your
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: colleagues have worked on this together. But it's titled Higher
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Education in America Worse than We Think it is. It's
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: worse than you think.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: How bad?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Actually quite bad.
• 29:19
  Speaker 12: And as you look back over the years at what's
• 29:21
  Speaker 12: happened in terms of free speech, in the amount of
• 29:24
  Speaker 12: censorship that's taking place on campus, the fact that the
• 29:28
  Speaker 12: classrooms are still overrun by indoctrination, that professors are still
• 29:33
  Speaker 12: leaning to the left overwhelmingly.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: So it is worse.
• 29:36
  Speaker 12: Than we think, and in most of these areas it's
• 29:39
  Speaker 12: not getting better. But our book, which was edited by
• 29:42
  Speaker 12: Heritage President Kevin Roberts, provides not just the problems and
• 29:46
  Speaker 12: an outline of what's gone wrong, but also a set
• 29:48
  Speaker 12: of solutions, everything from how to fix accreditation to how
• 29:52
  Speaker 12: to bring down tuition costs and more.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: What would be what's the deficiency currently and what's the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: solution for getting it properly put in place?
• 30:02
  Speaker 12: From your thinking, Well, for many years there have been
• 30:05
  Speaker 12: a small number of accrediting organizations that essentially put a
• 30:09
  Speaker 12: stamp of approval on colleges and they say that if
• 30:14
  Speaker 12: you are accredited, then you can enroll students who are
• 30:17
  Speaker 12: using federal loans. And obviously that's a big source of
• 30:20
  Speaker 12: revenue for colleges. But here's the thing. Most colleges are
• 30:24
  Speaker 12: never unaccredited. Most colleges that get this stamp of approval
• 30:28
  Speaker 12: they never lose it. So what value is this accreditation
• 30:33
  Speaker 12: if it's something that everyone gets?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: So that's the first problem.
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: The second problem is that these accrediting institutions are actually
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: have many of the same DEI and far left progressive
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: woke ideas that we are seeing again across culture and
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: in higher education. But it's almost because the accrediting entities
• 30:54
  Speaker 12: are so committed to DEI that they're forcing it down
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: on universities.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: So that's the second problem. So what's the solution.
• 31:01
  Speaker 12: So the solution is that we should allow more accrediting organizations.
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: I mean, let's start there, right. It shouldn't just be
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: this set of regional accreditors. Secondly, we should have institutions
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: themselves be able to come together and create their own
• 31:17
  Speaker 12: accrediting bodies. And we've actually started to see that in
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: just the last few years. And if we're going to
• 31:23
  Speaker 12: be serious about accreditation, we've got to be serious about
• 31:25
  Speaker 12: what the standards are. Right, if a university is not
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: producing graduates who are ready for the workforce or who
• 31:31
  Speaker 12: are demonstrating that they're proficient in any of these subjects,
• 31:34
  Speaker 12: they should lose their accreditation.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 12: It's only going to matter as a stamp of approval
• 31:39
  Speaker 12: if they're accountable for it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: The actual truth is, these accreditation standards have been have not,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: as you're pointing out, have not been really that vetted
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: that hard. And if DEI is impacting whether or not
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: a school is worthy of teaching, what it's there to teach.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: That seems kind of silly to me.
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: Well, sure, I mean some of these accrediting bodies over
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: the last few years they've removed them, but they used
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: to have statements on their websites committing themselves to DEI
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: and you can still find some of these across these accreditors.
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: But as they're starting to see, the Trump administration, to
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: its credit, has actually made changing accreditation of priority. And look,
• 32:22
  Speaker 12: there's a big shift taking place right now. It's arguably
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: the biggest shift in post secondary education in our lifetimes,
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: perhaps the last forty plus years, and that is that
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: they are moving, and that is the Department of.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Education the oversight of student loans to the Treasury.
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: And so for the Department of Education to shift the
• 32:43
  Speaker 12: largest financial piece of their portfolio to another agency is
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: a huge step towards actually closing down the Department of Education.
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: And the purpose of that, of course, is that cabinet
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: level agency has been ineffective. It's been ineffective at overseeing accreditation,
• 32:59
  Speaker 12: it's been ineffective at rooting out fraud and mismanagement of funds.
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: Certainly has been ineffective at actually changing the culture of
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: higher education institutions. Because they've simply allowed this DEI to
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: proliferate around the country. So this is a huge step
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: that's underway right now.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: We've gotten dumber, literally through test scores. We've gotten dumber
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: every year as an educated society that it's been in existence. Jonathan,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: that is the opposite of what the public interest should
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: be yielding from tax dollars used for such a thing.
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: Well, the most significant changes in the K twelve space
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: have happened at the state level. I mean, look, there
• 33:36
  Speaker 12: are eighteen states today that offer education savings accounts to
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: every child in their states apply for an ESSA.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a huge this is a huge set.
• 33:45
  Speaker 12: Well, these are state policies though, right there's states that
• 33:48
  Speaker 12: have adopted ESA's private school.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: So in addition to what the Feds are doing, these
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: are additional mechanisms that can be enacted.
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: Oh even before I mean, these essays have been moving
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: since twenty eleven, So the states have been out in
• 34:03
  Speaker 12: front on this issue of changing how we.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Mean and not forty eight like you know what I'm saying.
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: Sure, Well, I mean there are states like California, Washington State,
• 34:13
  Speaker 12: New York where the legislatures simply haven't adopted choices, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: I think that's why. I mean, you're seeing governors in
• 34:20
  Speaker 12: places like Florida and Texas saying, hey, come move here,
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: because in our state, every child can apply for an ESA,
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: and not only can apply, but in Florida more than
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: half a million students are actually using a private school
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: scholarship account, either in the form of an ESA or
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: a voucher. So although you know, a credit to the
• 34:39
  Speaker 12: Office of Civil Rights at the Department of Education, they've
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: done great work. But look, the next time that you
• 34:44
  Speaker 12: have a shift in power at the White House, that
• 34:47
  Speaker 12: Office of Civil Rights will do what the Biden administration did,
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: which was not investigate some of these radical policies.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: So for that reason, that's.
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: Why we need states to be in the driver's seat
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: when it comes to K twelve and higher.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Ed question, do you think that the Department of Education
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: outlast the Trump term, because I know one of his
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: goals was to defang it as much as he could.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: And they already have.
• 35:09
  Speaker 12: I mean a huge credit to them for these interagency
• 35:12
  Speaker 12: agreements that they've signed with other agencies like Treasury as
• 35:16
  Speaker 12: well as the Department of Labor, Department of State, to
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: I mean, ultimately it will take an Act of Congress
• 35:21
  Speaker 12: to remove it from federal law. But what the administration
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: can do and is doing, is they're making it so
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: small that Congress, frankly, is not going to have much
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: of a choice in the coming years. I mean, it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: going to become so small and the states are going
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: to have so much autonomy as they should, that shutting
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: it down is the only thing that will make sense.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: All right, Jonathan Butcher, thank you for all that you're
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: doing at the Heritage Foundation.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: Thank you for being with us.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Thank you, you got it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Kevin mckella coming back from New York, don't go away
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and stick around for more than Kevin.
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: Next serving it up with a no drink minimum.
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: It's that kinde of the show.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for you, and I'm so grateful for
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: those of you that have helped us along the lines
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: of getting the message out for Project Angel Tree Camp
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: this year. Friends, yesterday another eight children were given the
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: gift of Christian Camp for the summer because of your generosity,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and that brings us to sixty two kids that have
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: been spoken for. We are in the process of needing
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: to get to one hundred and sixty two, so We've
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: still got a lot of wood to chop, as they say.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: But I'm confident that if there were one hundred of
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: you within the sound of my voice, and there's easily
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: way more than that listening right now in four hundred
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: stations across the country, if just one hundred of you
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: said I will, I will adopt one kid and give
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: one kid a scholarship to go to summer camp this year.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: It's a fifty dollars It's a two hundred dollars gift
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: one time. If you need to break it up to
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: one hundred dollars a month over two months, or four
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: to four gifts of fifty dollars each, whatever you need
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to do to make that happen, that will still count.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: It will still help getting kid to camp, and it
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: would be incredibly meaningful for you to do something along
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: those lines. These kids, they share one thing in common
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: all of their parents. They all have parents who have
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: been incarcerated. But they also share another thing in common.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Not only have all of them have a parent who's
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: been incarcerated, they also all have a parent who's gone
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: through the Prison Fellowship Bible Study program in prison and
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: upon graduation have been given the opportunity to nominate their
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: child for a scholarship week of Christian summer camp. And
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: if you don't think that this might just reverse the
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: cycle of what that family has been going through already again,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: because when the parent finds Jesus in prison and then says, hey,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I want my kid to know Jesus, will you send
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: them to a Christian camp where they're going to be,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: you know, confronted with the claims of the Gospel every day.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: That's a powerful thing. So go to that kevinshow dot com.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Click the banner at the top of the page that
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: kevinshow dot com. Click the banner at the top of
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the page. You can select how much you want to give.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: On the page you'll see right up to the minute,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: how many kids we have going but friends we've got
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: We've got one hundred and eighteen that still need help.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: And I know that you could help them. And I
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: threw this out last hour. If there's someone that would
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: like to give a gift of ten thousand dollars ten
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars one time gift, I would like to bring
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you to New York, treat you to dinner, and have
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: a one on one evening with you and your and
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: your significant other, and get to know a little bit
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  Speaker 2: say thank you in a tangible way if you would
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  Speaker 2: help forty children find their way to camp through a gift,
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  Speaker 2: a one time gift of ten thousand dollars. I believe
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  Speaker 2: that there's someone in the audience that could do that.
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  Speaker 2: There may be more than one, and for everybody that
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: does it, we'll do the same thing. But I need
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: your help right now because I don't want to leave
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  Speaker 2: any of these one hundred and sixty two names off
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  Speaker 2: the list of kids who get summer camp. So would
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  Speaker 2: you help us? Would you be willing to help us
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  Speaker 2: right now? Go to that kevinshow dot com, select the
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• 39:40
  Speaker 2: seconds if you're good on the computer or on the
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  Speaker 2: figure out ways to make these children's lives so much
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  Speaker 2: more than what they are facing this summer without the possibility.
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  Speaker 6: Of going to camp.
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  Speaker 2: And again, if you can make that gift of ten
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, I will do something personally for you.
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  Speaker 6: But I don't we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: If we didn't have that at all, that would be
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: fine as long as we had one hundred and eighteen people.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: It said, I will take care of one child this year.
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  Speaker 2: Would you at least go that far to say, there's
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  Speaker 2: a kid whose life can be majorly impacted by Jesus
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• 43:07
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• 43:10
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• 43:13
  Speaker 2: That she's going to try to be on time for
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: the segment today because she's doing camp drop off for
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: her own grandkids today. So, look, camping season is upon us.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: There are ninety eight names still left on my list,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and I just need one person out of every four
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: radio stations carrying the show to say I'll take care
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: of one kid going to camp. I actually think, friends,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: if we wanted to, we could this hour. We could
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: have ninety eight people, individual people say I'm going to
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: take care of a child and it would be done
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: for Just go to that Kevinshow dot com and click
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: the manner at the top of the page. These kids
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: all have the same story. All of their parents were
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: in prison. All of their parents went through the redemptive
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Bible Study program that Prison Fellowship runs. When their parents
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: one's graduated from that, they were given an opportunity to
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: recommend their child for a camp scholarship to a Christian camp.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And these Christian camps have basically donated their services and
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: put a lot of investment into this as well.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: The two hundred.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Dollars cost does not even come close to covering all
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the costs that the camps will have for these kids.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people are pitching in to give
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: these kids a week of camp that they will never forget.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Would you be the one that gives that scholarship. That
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: scholarship will change a life. That scholarship will put Jesus
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: into the life and heart of that child, the same
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Jesus by the way that their parent studied about in
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: the Bible Study program in prison. They know how much
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Jesus impacted their life. That's why they're nominating their kid
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: to get a scholarship to go to camp. So please
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: don't sit on this. Ninety eight kids and their futures
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: hang in the balance. I don't want to leave one
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: of them behind. Please go to that kevinshow dot com,
• 44:53
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• 44:56
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• 45:01
  Speaker 2: of us that have already given in praying that we'll
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: get all of the kids there, because I don't want
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: a single one of those one hundred and sixty two
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: kids to not be able to.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: Make it all right.
• 45:08
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• 45:12
  Speaker 2: General Todd blanche who stepped in when Pam Bondy vacated,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: revealed to Sean Hannity yesterday on his podcast. He has
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: a new podcast that's over on the podcast side of Fox.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: It's called Hangout. He told Hannity that they ran across
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: a newly discovered room that was packed with documents from
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: former Special Counsel Jack Smith's investigation into Donald Trump. This
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: is really interesting to listen to this. It's not officially
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: a secret room, but it's just not a room that
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: many people use. And he says it looks like whoever
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: put this these documents were all in burn bags, by
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the way, meaning at some point in time somebody ordered
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: all this stuff to be destroyed. And he said, the
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: reason that it's interesting that it's in the room is
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: it appears that some good FBI agent who loves his
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: country and wants justice for everybody, realized that if they
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: put them in this room, they would most likely be
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: found and be stumbled across, and the truth would come
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: out from what's in these burn bags. Well, lo and
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: behold cash, Betel Dan Bongino. They've been finding this kind
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: of stuff all over the Department of Justice before Bongino
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: left a couple of months ago, and to find this
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: trove of documents is going to be particularly interesting because
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it is Jack Smith's stuff from the Russia Gate Operation
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Crossfire investigation. And he said, we found a room a
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: few months ago, but these burn bags, it looks like
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: a good FBI agent, an honorable agent, may have been
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: trying to preserve them instead of destroying the evidence so
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: that we could know the truth about what had taken place.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: He said, this one was in a place where I
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: get the point that an honorable fbigent felt might have
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: left it there because it was not where it would
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: normally be left in order to be destroyed. We kind
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: of stumbled on it, but it looked like the stumbling
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: was intended by the by whoever put it there, so
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: they have this They have this bag. It's full of
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: stuff that is sensitive, but it relates to the investigations
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: into Trump and it looks like somebody left it in
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: place where it wouldn't be destroyed, but not only would
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: it not be destroyed, it would be discovered by the
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: current DOJ and what they're looking into. In April, Bongino
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: revealed to Sean Hannity a very similar situation where documents
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: that were so sensitive had been left behind for someone
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: to find, and he said, well, I'm reading these documents
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I can't believe this happened in the
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: United States and that so many people knew about it
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: and said nothing. This was just before Bongino resigned, and
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Longino talked a little bit about it on his show
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: after he did resign, discussing the idea that he had
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: He could not have fathomed the people involved, the danger
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: that was implicated by the stuff that was given evidence
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: to in the document, and that people that were supposed
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: to be working in the best interest of the country
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: had just done nothing about it, and so many people
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: had done nothing about it. I think off the record,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything. Dan didn't tell me anything. I
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: don't talk to him, but I think that that was
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: probably one of the things that made Mangino reconsider his
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: role within the administration. Does he really want to be,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: you know, a target in the future for people to
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: come in and do something similar to that in the
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: days and weeks to come. And former d and I
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Tulci Gabbard also alleged in July of last year that
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: it was the Obama administration themselves formally that had come
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: up with the whole Russian hoax and that they had
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: discovered documents that seemed to point to that reality. So
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: what we're talking about is another one of these kind
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: of troves of information where you've got lots and lots
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: of letters and emails and memos and other things that
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: are all contained, and instead of it being destroyed like
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: the outgoing team thought it was going to be, the
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: burn bag, never got burned, and now they're going back
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: and looking through it. And friends, I hear me out
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: on this. I'm all in favor of this as long
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: as it leads to arrests, Like I want the people
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: that knowingly did the wrong thing, and I don't care
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: if that goes up to former President Obama or not
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: if he knowingly did it, I want them to be
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: held accountable. At the very minimum, I want them dragged
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: in front of Congress having to answer their questions before
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: the americ people. Put it on C SPAN and Fox News.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I don't care if the other stations won't carry it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: You get you get the truth out and at least
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: we have a chance to react to it. We are
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: a culture and a society that is ruled and governed
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: by laws, and you don't just get to be an
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: amoral donkey and run around and just you know, do
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: whatever you want. And that's how they I guess the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: appropriate symbol for their party because that's how.
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: They behave on a regular basis.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: All Right, we've got a lot to get to, big
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: big hour, Katie McFarland.
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: A little bit later on, your.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Admiral Brown will be with us, and we need your
• 50:35
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• 50:38
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  Speaker 7: He is of New York exact Kevin Kevin McCollough.
• 51:05
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  Speaker 2: Kat you advised multiple presidents, including forty seven when he
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: was forty five, on different aspects of Middle Eastern policy
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: and overall national security issues. This last weekend seems to
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: be a little bit of a wash and repeat of
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: previous weekends, where you kind of have the same pattern.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: The president goes in saying I'm thinking about making a decision.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: They look at some sort of language or terminology that
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: is being discussed, antied back and forth. This weekend was
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: weird because the Rani and president resigned and then he didn't,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: but he really did, and who knows if he did
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: or not. Nobody really knows who we're dealing with, at
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: least publicly. I think the administration has some degree of
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: an idea, and then you've got, you know, the ups
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: and downs of whether we need to be stronger, maybe
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: take some more defensive actions in the region, which it
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: seems like we did, or we're going to get an
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: agreement any moment. Now, it's hard to get a read
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: on exactly where we're at. How are you sizing up
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the cards?
• 52:32
  Speaker 14: I think that President Trump hasn't made up his mind.
• 52:35
  Speaker 14: He's got a lot of options. He could resume military action.
• 52:38
  Speaker 14: He could cut a deal, maybe not the best deal,
• 52:40
  Speaker 14: but he could cut a deal that would eliminate Around's
• 52:43
  Speaker 14: nuclear weapons but give us relief on gasoline prices. But
• 52:49
  Speaker 14: I think one of the reasons it seems to be
• 52:50
  Speaker 14: going back and forth and you're never sure are we
• 52:53
  Speaker 14: going to as you very well articulated, I think because
• 52:56
  Speaker 14: there's a lot going on behind the scenes. And here's why,
• 52:59
  Speaker 14: it's not just all about Iran. It's really all about
• 53:03
  Speaker 14: the whole region. And President Trump is trying to get
• 53:07
  Speaker 14: the other major countries in the region, particularly Saudi Arabia,
• 53:12
  Speaker 14: to join the Abraham Accords. They've sat on the fence.
• 53:15
  Speaker 14: They were going to do it before the October seventh
• 53:18
  Speaker 14: attacks Hamas on Israeli civilians, and then they pulled back
• 53:23
  Speaker 14: and they were going to and they were not going to.
• 53:25
  Speaker 14: But I think that what's going on behind the scenes
• 53:27
  Speaker 14: is President Trump and Marco Rubio and the negotiating team
• 53:31
  Speaker 14: are trying step by step by step to pull all
• 53:34
  Speaker 14: the other all of the golf Arab countries and countries
• 53:38
  Speaker 14: even beyond the Middle East into the Abraham Accords. And
• 53:42
  Speaker 14: it's important because the Abraham Accords forced them. One of
• 53:46
  Speaker 14: the preconditions is that they recognize Israel, that they're not
• 53:49
  Speaker 14: going to go to war against Israel. And the main
• 53:51
  Speaker 14: parties of the Abraham Accords are the United States, Israel,
• 53:54
  Speaker 14: and then the golf Arabs. Some of the golf Arabs
• 53:57
  Speaker 14: have already signed they signed on at the end of
• 53:59
  Speaker 14: Press Trump's first term. But I think what he really
• 54:02
  Speaker 14: is trying to do is line them all up, and
• 54:04
  Speaker 14: each of these countries, Saudi Arabian others, they have their
• 54:07
  Speaker 14: own interests because they don't like Iran either, but on
• 54:11
  Speaker 14: the other hand, they don't want Irn bombing their desalinization plants, etc.
• 54:16
  Speaker 14: So I think that there's still the cake isn't baked yet,
• 54:19
  Speaker 14: and to try to jump ahead and say, well, this
• 54:22
  Speaker 14: is the shape of the cake, I think that we're
• 54:24
  Speaker 14: probably it's probably futile. Let's just wait and see how
• 54:27
  Speaker 14: this plays out, knowing that President Trump is going to
• 54:30
  Speaker 14: need a resolution at the very latest by the end
• 54:34
  Speaker 14: of the summer.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think if you wait till this is
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: my own take, and I know far less than Kat does,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: but I think if you wait that long, you really
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: do run the risk of injuring the outcome of the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: election in November. I kind of think we got to
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: make a move on this around July fourth, Midsummer somewhere
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: in there to really kind of hit the kind of
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: the backstop. I was hoping we would have something done
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: by Memorial Day. I know that the twenty tons of
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: partially enriched materials are part of the problem, and Kazakhstan
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: said this week that they would be willing to take
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: all of the materials that we would go in there
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: and get out. Now, I know we kind of made
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: the job harder for ourselves because of our attack last
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: year and actually getting their nuclear program shut down, because
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: those mountains that we leveled and turned into, you know,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: plains underneath there is where all that stuff is at.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So how do we get that out?
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: Is there a.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Joint team that the US and Iran do together to
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: go in there and dig that out? And then who's
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: responsible for getting it, you know, to where it needs
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: to go. Could Kazakhstan be useful in this? Do they
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: have the capacity to handle twenty tons of enriched materials?
• 55:50
  Speaker 14: They're probably only the United States, maybe China, maybe Russia
• 55:55
  Speaker 14: are the only countries with the capability to do it themselves.
• 55:58
  Speaker 14: And really the United States it is by far and
• 56:01
  Speaker 14: away the most capable country of doing this. That's going
• 56:05
  Speaker 14: to be part of whatever deal we reach with Iran
• 56:09
  Speaker 14: is the quote as President Trump calls it nuclear dust,
• 56:12
  Speaker 14: that they bomb it into dust. And so who's going
• 56:15
  Speaker 14: to be able to find the dust, verify that they've
• 56:17
  Speaker 14: got all the dust, take the dust away, and then
• 56:21
  Speaker 14: any nuclear capabilities of this dust, how to refine it
• 56:25
  Speaker 14: downwards so that it's no longer a potential military threat.
• 56:29
  Speaker 14: It'll be one of the one of the main aspects
• 56:32
  Speaker 14: of whatever deal we reach, if we reach a deal,
• 56:34
  Speaker 14: the deal that we reach is it's almost more important
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: than the deal itself is the is two other parts
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: of it, which is what are how do we know?
• 56:45
  Speaker 14: I mean, we don't have anybody in Iran, how do
• 56:47
  Speaker 14: we have inspections? And every previous deal with Iran never
• 56:51
  Speaker 14: allowed for snap inspections. In other words, that the Iran
• 56:55
  Speaker 14: nuclear deal that Obama signed, they could have inspections, but
• 56:57
  Speaker 14: only if they made an appointment well in advance, give
• 57:00
  Speaker 14: the Iranians plenty of time to change locations, to move
• 57:03
  Speaker 14: stuff around. But what we would need is the ability
• 57:07
  Speaker 14: to go any place, anytime to see what they've got,
• 57:10
  Speaker 14: because we know they'll lie, we know they'll cheat. And
• 57:12
  Speaker 14: then the other thing that will be essential is well,
• 57:14
  Speaker 14: how do you enforce it if they cheat? So let's
• 57:18
  Speaker 14: say inspectors want to go to Foordo Mountain and they
• 57:21
  Speaker 14: want to go and look and see inside, and the
• 57:24
  Speaker 14: Iranians say, well, no, it's not convenient. You know, how
• 57:26
  Speaker 14: about next week or maybe go to this other part,
• 57:28
  Speaker 14: not this part. You have to assume at that point
• 57:31
  Speaker 14: they're cheating, and so what do you do to enforce it?
• 57:34
  Speaker 14: You could have economic enforcement, but military enforcement is probably
• 57:38
  Speaker 14: probably the best conclusion is Okay, if they say that
• 57:41
  Speaker 14: they don't want to have snap inspections, that means they're cheating.
• 57:45
  Speaker 14: That means less bombicide. So whatever deal we have is
• 57:50
  Speaker 14: none of it is worth the paper it's printed on
• 57:52
  Speaker 14: unless we can confirm, you know, verify, confirm, and then
• 57:56
  Speaker 14: punish them or take some kind of action to stop
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  Speaker 14: them from cheating the usual ways.
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  Speaker 2: A way, do you feel confident that we are talking
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: to the actual decision makers?
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  Speaker 14: You know, there's sort of two schools of thought. One
• 58:10
  Speaker 14: is that there's such massive chaos and the leadership of
• 58:13
  Speaker 14: Iran that there are two divisions that there's one is
• 58:16
  Speaker 14: the military guys, the I ergy see and the other
• 58:19
  Speaker 14: is the civilian guys, the speaker and president of the country,
• 58:23
  Speaker 14: speaker of the parliament. Maybe, And it seems like the
• 58:27
  Speaker 14: civilian guys are more pragmatic. They want to do a
• 58:29
  Speaker 14: deal because they're looking at a post war run and
• 58:31
  Speaker 14: how do you build it up? The other guys, the
• 58:34
  Speaker 14: military guys just want to go down with the ship.
• 58:36
  Speaker 14: They want to be murders rather than surrender anything. That
• 58:40
  Speaker 14: may be the case that there's such chaos and their
• 58:42
  Speaker 14: leadership that we don't know who we're talking to, and
• 58:44
  Speaker 14: even if we sign agreement, I mean, who's going to
• 58:47
  Speaker 14: prevent the other faction from sabotaging it. There's also the
• 58:51
  Speaker 14: possibility that they're trying to play good cop, bad cop
• 58:54
  Speaker 14: with us.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think that we've I think that we've dealt
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: with Iran long enough, we kind of understand that that's
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: their mode of operation. You know, one day they say
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: one thing, the next day they're psychologically opposite where they
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: were the day before. And I just don't know how
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: long term we break through that, because I do think
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  Speaker 2: the Iranian people really do want some sort of sort
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: of stability. But if the president resigned this last weekend,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: which they say that he did, and then he said
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: that he didn't, and I don't know if he did
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: or not, it seems like certainly the civilian leadership is
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: not equipped with the types of tools necessary to enforce
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: rulings or ideas or laws or anything else. And that
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: really is just the IRGC that has all the weight.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 14: And that's why what I said at the very beginning
• 59:47
  Speaker 14: of our conversation is so important. We need to have
• 59:50
  Speaker 14: the We can't enforce this ourselves, We're not going to
• 59:52
  Speaker 14: invade it on. We need people there in the region
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  Speaker 14: who know the region, who know the players, who are
• 59:59
  Speaker 14: right there and help us enforce anything. And that's got
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 14: to be the golf Arabs. So I think that's why
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 14: almost a precondition of any deal is to have the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 14: golf Arabs already signed up. You know, that was why
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 14: the Gazipiece plan has worked. It's because all of those
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 14: golf Arabs have signed on to it before the Gazipieace
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 14: plan happened. Yeah, so there's really that's why Hamas was
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 14: so completely isolated. You know, a year ago it was
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 14: Hamas Amasamas. Now we haven't heard a peep out of Hamas.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 14: And that's because the Gazipiece plan is working. Why because
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 14: all of those other countries in the region have signed
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 14: on to it.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, that makes a lot of sense. And I just
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I look at what President Trump has to do here,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: and you know, I don't think that the Tucker Carlson
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: and Megan Kelly and all the other things that have
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: been throwing stuff from the sidelines have been helpful. I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: really do think this president is trying to conscientiously bore
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: through the toughest part of this and get to a resolution.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: And I think that I don't know, I'm willing to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: give him some grace because I know that he wants
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: it worse than anything. He wants peace in this world,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: and you cannot have peace if you have an armed
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Iran that is, you know, holding it over everybody's head.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Not just in the region, but against our allies, against Europe,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: against the West, ultimately against the United States. And it's
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: going to be the toughest thing that he does, but
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be one of the most important things
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: that he ends.
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  Speaker 6: Up to him anyway, Katy.
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  Speaker 14: It'll be your whole I guess I agree.
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  Speaker 6: With you well that in the Supreme Court. I mean,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: I still did what he did there is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, Katie, always appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 14: Thank you, Kevin.
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  Speaker 6: You got it. Kevin mccullach, coming right back to.
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  Speaker 11: The little way.
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  Speaker 7: Let's stick around for more that Kevin.
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  Speaker 15: Next here he is of New York exact Kevin, Kevin McCullough,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 15: Welcome back to Times Square.
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  Speaker 2: It's Kevin McCullough, that Kevin show, that kevinshow dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Forgive my slight speech impediment. I do feel a little
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: bit different than I usually do. If you're watching on TV,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: you may notice I have a slight more hematbo on
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: my chin than normal. But that's just from you know,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: the funds of being a dad and being a dad
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: in a way I'm getting too old to be. So
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I need to accept
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: some limitations and let the professionals do the capture the flag.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: In fact, I was thinking about camp when I was
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: growing up and how we would always play Capture the Flag.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: And as I was getting my teeth work done over
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: the weekend from this little accident, this little spill that
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I had, I was remembering some good memories of how
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: much fun it was to play ca the flag. Steve
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Collins is with Prison Fellowship Camp, and Steve, thank you
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: for coming back and for talking to us. It's one
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  Speaker 2: of those things where and I Christian Camp to me
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: is one of the most formulat formulive, formative experiences of
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: my Christian walk, Like I can't overstate that at all.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I got saved really young,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: but I wanted to learn more about my faith, and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: I wanted to serve the Lord, and I wanted to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: do some things that were tangible expressions of that. And
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: what I found through going to camp in the summertime
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: was not only did I have a chance to do
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: that by being with other kids that were my age
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: and sometimes telling them about Jesus, etc. But also being
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: built into by counselors and by people that would feed
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: into me. So as we've been talking about Angel Tree Camp,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I am so excited at what these children will actually end.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: Up being able to be presented with.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Because the Gospel is a healthy thing, it's a wonderful thing,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: it's a loving thing. It's the most important thing we
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: can give them.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: You know, campus was tremendous in my faith development personally
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 10: as well, and I know how powerful it is in
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: the lives of these kids. I was a Christian camp
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 10: director for twenty five years before I joined the Angeltry,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 10: and I saw it firsthand. I know that these kids
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 10: when they come to camp, whether they've got a church
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 10: background or not, when they come to camp, they begin
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: to think independently about their personal faith and they're presented
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 10: with opportunities to take next steps in their faith and
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: to grow in that faith, and to develop that personal
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: relationship with Jesus, and it shapes the future of their lives.
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  Speaker 2: Friends, if you've been trying to help a child get
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: to camp, we've had a little bit of problem with
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: the phone lines, and I just want to say, for
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: get the phone lines. Just go online and give your
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: gift at that kevinshow dot com. Click the Angel Tree
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: banner at the top of the page, or you can
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: go to angeltree dot com backslash Kevin. That'll also get
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: you to the same spot. But it is really vital.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: As of now, we have more than one hundred and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: fifty children on my list left that still need to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: be given scholarships, and I don't want to leave a
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  Speaker 2: single one of them behind. And we've only got a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks to get this finished. And if you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: can give a large gift that would help a lot
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: of kids, that would be great. Steve, you talked about
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: being the senior program manager at Angeltree Camp. Take us
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: through from your experience and what you've watched for the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: last number of years. Take us through the evolution of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: a child as they arrive for the first time and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: all the way through the week till they end up
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: leaving the camp for the first time, because there is
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: quite a transformation that happens.
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  Speaker 7: They're sure is it's amazing, you know.
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  Speaker 10: For first, to give some context, you know, a lot
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 10: of us grew up going to camp, but for a
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  Speaker 10: lot of Angel Tree families, camp is not something that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 10: their parents ever experienced, not something that they've ever had
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: The opportunity to do so when they have the Angel
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 10: Tree scholarship to attend an Angel Tree Camp, it's a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 10: new experience for them, and it's very foreign, and so
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 10: a lot of these kids arrive at camp unsure. You know,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 10: it looks good in the on the website when they
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 10: see photos, they see you know, videos of kids you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 10: writing zip lines and going down water slides and things
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 10: like this, and they think, wow, it looks fun. But
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: then they arrive and sometimes they can be really nervous.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 10: And when these kids get nervous because of the stuff
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: that they've been through in their past already, they tend to.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 16: Put up walls.
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  Speaker 10: And so when they first arrived, you'll often see kids
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: with these big walls up and they're just very guarded
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: and they're just kind of watching and observing and kind
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 10: of withdrawing a little bit. But then something amazing begins
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 10: to happen because camp is contageous, and as they experience
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 10: the games and the relationships are built, and the fellowship
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 10: and the camaraderie and the camp spirit, it just kind
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 10: of takes hold and then start to loosen up, and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 10: those walls start to come down and they start to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 10: embrace the fund that camp is. And when they start
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 10: to embrace the fun of camp, then those relationships begin
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 10: to grow and they start to build this trusting relationship
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 10: with their cabin mates, with their counselors, with the camp leadership,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 10: you know. And then over the course of this week,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 10: once those relationships are built, they start to open up
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 10: their hearts to the truth of the gospel. And it
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 10: can be absolutely transformational because they begin to experience the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: love of God. And then by the time they get
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 10: to the end of the week, they're in tears because
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: they don't want to leave camp because camp is such
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 10: a special place and it means so much of them.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 10: And just in four or five days, these relationships are grown,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 10: these bonds are created there, and they have this genuine
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 10: love for their cab inmates, and they have this camaraderie
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: and it's tough to let that go. But we're not
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 10: sending them home alone. We're sending them home with the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 10: dwelling Holy Spirit, and he continues to do that work
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 10: in their lives after they leave him.
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  Speaker 2: It's really special, friends, and this is why I'm so
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  Speaker 2: right back from New York.
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  Speaker 7: Here he is of New York, exact Ken Kevin McCullough,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: welcome back.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: It's that Kevin show, that kevinshow dot com.
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  Speaker 6: I'm very glad to have met with this.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we talked with Katie McFarland once a week.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: We're getting kind of the inside of, you know, the
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: administration's thinking in terms of what's going on in Iran,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: but when it comes to foreign policy as a whole,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: there's a lot more happening besides just Iran or even
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Ukraine and Russia and those hotspots. In fact, if you
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: were watching the cabinet meeting last week that the President
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: held in the White House, you would have been floored
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: if you did not know any of the stuff that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: they were working on and what they were accomplishing here
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: to discuss is retired to Admiral Peter Brown, Senior Fellow,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Western Hemisphere Security Maritime Affairs for the America First Policy Institute,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite groups. Admiral, Always good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: I do think that when you look at Venezuela, when
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: you look at Cuba, when you look at the the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: way that's impacted Russia, in China, in the hemisphere, there's
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: been a fundamental realignment in global power, and it's away
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: from China and towards the US. And nothing demonstrates that
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: better than what's going on in our hemisphere.
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  Speaker 17: Absolutely, and thanks for having me back, Kevin. It's always
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 17: great to talk to you, and especially to talk with
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 17: someone who understands that there's a lot of things happening
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 17: kind of below the service of the daily news feed,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 17: but that are actually vitally important to the safety security
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 17: any economy of the United States and the entire Western hemisphere.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 17: And as you point out, every one of these moves
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 17: is not only a positive move in the direction of
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 17: the interests of the United States, but it's a pushback
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 17: against those extra hemispheric actors, mostly China, but also Russia
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 17: and Iran still have their toes in our own hemisphere,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 17: and the US is pushing them out with President Trump
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 17: and Secretary of State Dual had It as Nationality Advisor
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 17: Mark or Rubio. The progress has absolutely been remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to us about what we've accomplished.
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  Speaker 16: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 17: Well, the easiest place to start is Venezuela, because that's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 17: where the action was the most visible and pointing in
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 17: a lot of ways. But what happened was before January
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 17: third of twenty twenty six. Since January twentieth of twenty
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 17: twenty five, the administration was taken a number of actions,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 17: each one of which should have been considered as a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 17: signal by the Maduro regime that President Trump, unlike predecessors,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 17: who was very serious about reducing and ultimately eliminating drug trafficking, crime, corruption,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 17: and foreign influence in our hemisphere. And so from the
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 17: build up of military forces, the strikes against narcotic smuggling
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 17: vessels what I call the proxy militias of our chief
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 17: foreign adversary, and then ultimately the seizing of Venezuela and
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 17: State oil to place its profit to the benefit of
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 17: the Venezuelan people, and ultimately the indictment and removal of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 17: Maduro to face justice in the United States, and that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 17: same strategy, with a different pattern of tactics, is playing
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 17: out in other capitals in the hemisphere, certainly in Havana
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 17: to some extent in Mexico City. And we've already seen
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 17: on the positive side, places like Bolivia, Ecuador, Chile, Argentina
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 17: all moving ideologically and economically in the direction of the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 17: United States and pushing back against the predations of China.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and that's so important on so many different levels.
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  Speaker 2: But the realignment of the globe more or less around
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: American energy is going to be one of the pieces
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: of leverage that not only this president should use, but
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: presidents going forward. I'm a little concerned that the other side,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: should they ever get the White House again, and they
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: most likely will at some point, has too dim a
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: view of just what we've accomplished. But when you talk
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: about energy dominance, we're not just talking about the fact
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: that we're doubling in our own production output Russia and
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia in terms of energy supplies. But now the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Venezuelan and likely on some level Iranian future supplies will
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: also be controlled on some level in our hands. What
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: does that do to China.
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  Speaker 16: Well that does it makes China even less capable of
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 16: applying economic and diplomatic pressure to kind of smaller and
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 16: less economically resourced countries, including here on our own hemisphere.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 16: Just a couple months ago, I was on a cruise
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 16: with my wife in the Eastern Caribbean and we saw
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 16: in a number of countries Dominica, Saint Lucia, Antigua, and
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 16: we've seen it elsewhere. The diplomatic pressure that China is
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 16: putting on these smaller nations. They do it wrapped up
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 16: nicely in construction projects and infrastructure, refurbishing a hospital. But
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 16: we heard directly from the people in some of these
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 16: countries that they know that their government has given up something,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 16: but they don't know what that something is. And what
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 16: they've given up is in some cases citizenship, so citizenship
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 16: by investment, which allows Chinese actors to launder their identities
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 16: and gain fece of free access to the United States
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 16: and other places, as well as votes in the UN
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 16: General Assembly and UN a lot international organizations that are
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 16: slowly moving what people call the rules based international order
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 16: toward the China rules, and we need to push back
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 16: against that. Energy dominance is a key component of doing that,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 16: and also we need to pay attention to things like
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 16: the upcoming election in Colombia. There was the initial election
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 16: happened this past weekend, a right wing kind of Trump
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 16: alt and candidate came out in first place, but not
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 16: enough to win out right.
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  Speaker 17: They have to go to a runoff in about three
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  Speaker 17: weeks and there's a full on communist who's running against it.
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  Speaker 17: And it's you know, people might see us, citizens might
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  Speaker 17: say why is a Colombian runoff election important to us? Well,
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  Speaker 17: because Colombia is the number one producer of cocaine in
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  Speaker 17: the world and has been doing more of that under
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  Speaker 17: the current regime. And so it's in the interests of
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  Speaker 17: the United States the safety of our own people to
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  Speaker 17: see that a proper candidate with policies aligned toward the
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  Speaker 17: United States is elected in the office.
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  Speaker 2: While the wada Colombians can sway the election.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely, they can voted their consulate here in the
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  Speaker 17: United States, whether that's in New York or down here
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  Speaker 17: in Miami, and those numbers are big enough to move
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  Speaker 17: this election.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I hope that everyone listening to us in New
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  Speaker 2: York City and in Miami both were in both of
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  Speaker 2: those places. I hope that they will go and express
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  Speaker 2: a concern for safety for their country because a Marxist
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  Speaker 2: isn't gonna They're not going to care about the cocaine trade.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to say, how can we monetize it? And
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  Speaker 2: we really do have this obligation to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: China doesn't send us ventanyl and Columbia doesn't send us crack.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it's.
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  Speaker 2: Incumbent upon our administration to have a vested stake in
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  Speaker 2: those fights.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm glad that we do.
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  Speaker 2: Retired Admiral of Peter Brown, thank you for your all
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  Speaker 2: that you're doing.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 16: Oh, thank you so much. Kevin.
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  Speaker 17: It's great to shot with her again. To look forward
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  Speaker 17: to the next opportunity.
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  Speaker 6: You got it, Kevin mckella coming back from New York.
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  Speaker 11: Don't go white.
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  Speaker 9: Stick around for more of that Kevin next, serving it
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  Speaker 7: It's that Kevin show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for you, and I'm so grateful for
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  Speaker 2: those of you that have helped us along the lines
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  Speaker 2: of getting the message out for Project Angel Tree Camp
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  Speaker 2: this year. Friends. Yesterday, another eight children were given the
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  Speaker 2: gift of Christian Camp for the summer because of your generosity,
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  Speaker 2: and that brings us to sixty two kids that have
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  Speaker 2: been spoken for. We are in the process of needing
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  Speaker 2: to get to one hundred and sixty two, so we've
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  Speaker 2: still got a lot of wood to chop, as they say.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm confident that if there were one hundred of
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  Speaker 2: you within the sound of my voice, and there's easily
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  Speaker 2: way more than that listening right now in four hundred
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  Speaker 2: stations across the country, if just one hundred of you
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  Speaker 2: said I will, I will adopt one kid and give
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  Speaker 2: one kid a scholarship to go to summer camp this year.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fifty dollars. It's a two hundred dollars gift
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  Speaker 2: one time. If you need to break it up to
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  Speaker 2: you know, one hundred dollars a month over two months,
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  Speaker 2: or ford four gifts of fifty dollars each, whatever you
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  Speaker 2: need to do to make that happen, that will still count.
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  Speaker 2: It will still help getting kid to camp, and it
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  Speaker 2: would be incredibly meaningful for you to do something along
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  Speaker 2: those lines. These kids, they share one thing in common
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  Speaker 2: all of their parents. They all have parents who have
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  Speaker 2: been incarcerated. But they also share another thing in common.
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  Speaker 2: Not only have all of them have a parent who's
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  Speaker 2: been incarcerated, they also all have a parent who's gone
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  Speaker 2: through the Prison Fellowship Bible study program in prison, and
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  Speaker 2: upon graduation, have been given the opportunity to nominate their
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  Speaker 2: child for a scholarship week of Christian summer camp. And
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  Speaker 2: if you don't think that this might just reverse the
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  Speaker 2: cycle of what that family has been going through already,
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  Speaker 2: think again. Because when the parent finds Jesus in prison
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  Speaker 2: and then says, hey, I want my kid to know Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: will you send them to a Christian camp where they
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  Speaker 2: are going to be confronted with the claims of the
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  Speaker 2: Gospel every day, That's a power or ful thing. So
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: go to that kevinshow dot com. Click the banner at
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  Speaker 2: the top of the page that kevinshow dot com. Click
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  Speaker 2: the banner at the top of the page. You can
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  Speaker 2: select how much you want to give. On the page,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see right up to the minute, how many kids
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  Speaker 2: we have going but friends we've got We've got one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen that still need help. And I know
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  Speaker 2: that you could help them, and I threw this out
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  Speaker 2: last hour. If there's someone that would like to give
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  Speaker 2: a gift of ten thousand dollars ten thousand dollars one
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  Speaker 2: time gift. I would like to bring you to New York,
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  Speaker 2: treat you to dinner, and have a one on one
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  Speaker 2: evening with you and your and your significant other, and
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  Speaker 2: get to know a little bit about who you are,
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  Speaker 2: maybe if you have a business, what that consists of.
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  Speaker 2: But I would love to just say thank you in
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  Speaker 2: a tangible way if you would help forty children find
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  Speaker 2: their way to camp through a gift, a one time
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  Speaker 2: gift of ten thousand dollars. I believe that there's someone
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  Speaker 2: in the audience that could do that. There may be
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  Speaker 2: more than one, and for everybody that does it, will
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  Speaker 2: do the same thing. But I need your help right
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  Speaker 2: now because I don't want to leave any of these
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two names off the list of
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  Speaker 2: kids who get summer camp.
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  Speaker 7: So would you help us?
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  Speaker 6: Would you be.
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  Speaker 2: Willing to help us right now? Go to that kevinshow
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  Speaker 2: dot com, select the amount and give the gift. It
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  Speaker 2: takes like twenty five seconds if you're good on the
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  Speaker 2: computer or on the handheld device, and then give that gift.
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  Speaker 2: And then let's figure out ways to make these children's
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  Speaker 2: lives so much more than what they are facing this
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  Speaker 2: summer without the possibility of going to camp. And again,
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  Speaker 2: if you can make that gift of ten thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 2: I will do something personally for you. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: if we didn't, if we didn't have that at all,
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  Speaker 2: that would be fine, as long as we had one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen people. It said I will take care
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  Speaker 2: of one child this year. Would you at least go
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  Speaker 2: that far to say, there's a kid whose life can
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  Speaker 2: be majorly impacted by Jesus at Christian Camp this year,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to see to it that that child
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  Speaker 2: has that opportunity. That kevinshow dot com. Click the banner
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  Speaker 2: at the top of the page that kevinshow dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Click the banner at the top of the page that
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  Speaker 2: kevinshow dot com. Click the banner at the top of
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  Speaker 2: the page. Kevin McCalla, so glad to.
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  Speaker 6: Have you with us. Thank you for being in