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Concerned Clergy Podcast October 28, 2026 · Concerned Clergy Podcast

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SPEAKER_0: The following program is paid for
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SPEAKER_0: Urban One Incorporated.
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SPEAKER_1: Praise the Lord and good evening, everyone.
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SPEAKER_1: Glad to be with you.
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SPEAKER_1: The Concerned Clergy radio program on tonight.
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SPEAKER_1: On tonight, we're going to be sharing some information regarding...
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SPEAKER_1: There's some Medicaid issues that you need to be made aware of.
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SPEAKER_1: But what are those issues?
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SPEAKER_1: Well, there's going to be changes if you are enrolled in the Healthy Indiana Plan.
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SPEAKER_1: So if you're part of HIP, there's some changes you definitely need to be made aware of.
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SPEAKER_1: And we're going to share some information in regards to that on this evening.
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SPEAKER_1: And then also, we have six days left.
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SPEAKER_1: Six days left to vote.
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SPEAKER_1: So if you haven't voted yet, make sure that you have a plan, you get it in.
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SPEAKER_1: The numbers, the turnout seems to be extraordinary.
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SPEAKER_1: So we want to contribute to that as well.
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SPEAKER_1: Let me go ahead and say good evening to our president, Pastor Greene.
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SPEAKER_1: How are you doing?
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SPEAKER_2: I'm doing well, Reverend Alexander.
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SPEAKER_2: Good to be with you and all of our listeners and social media participants on this evening.
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SPEAKER_2: It's great weather in October.
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SPEAKER_2: So I'm excited about that as well.
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SPEAKER_1: It certainly is.
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SPEAKER_1: It is a blessing if we can just keep this,
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SPEAKER_1: let it carry on throughout the winter here in Indiana.
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SPEAKER_1: We also invite you, can catch the replay of our program.
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SPEAKER_1: That's the Substack that plays on the Progressive Indiana Network
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SPEAKER_1: the day following our program.
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SPEAKER_1: So you can once again go to Progressive Indiana Network and catch the replay
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SPEAKER_1: if you are Not able to catch the program in its entirety or if you just want
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SPEAKER_1: to share some of the information with someone else.
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SPEAKER_1: We also want to make sure that,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: as we try to educate the community and provide information and resources
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SPEAKER_1: that you're sharing that as well with your loved ones.
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SPEAKER_1: Mr. President, I'm going to ask if you would open this up in prayer, please.
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SPEAKER_2: Eternal God our Father, we come before you once again.
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SPEAKER_2: Humble us, we know how.
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SPEAKER_2: Lord, we thank you for this day.
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SPEAKER_2: Thank you, Lord God, for continuing to watch over us.
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SPEAKER_2: Lord, we pray for our city.
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SPEAKER_2: Our state and our country,
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SPEAKER_2: Lord God,
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SPEAKER_2: we pray for all those who will be impacted by these Medicaid changes as well,
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SPEAKER_2: Lord God.
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SPEAKER_2: We pray that information goes out and people will be protected from harm.
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SPEAKER_2: In Jesus' name, amen.
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SPEAKER_1: Amen.
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SPEAKER_1: Well, we're going to wrap our Medicaid conversation around voting.
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SPEAKER_1: We want to really encourage you to vote.
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SPEAKER_1: We also want to encourage you,
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SPEAKER_1: if you want to be part of the conversation on tonight,
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SPEAKER_1: you can call into the radio station.
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SPEAKER_1: And that phone number is 317-488.
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SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
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SPEAKER_1: But we're going to start talking about voting and we're going to end talking about voting.
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SPEAKER_1: Right now, early voting is going on.
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SPEAKER_1: As of last weekend, many early voting sites opened up.
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SPEAKER_1: We had a march to the polls.
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SPEAKER_1: And it seems like here in Marion County, seems like we have pretty good turnout.
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SPEAKER_1: And I've got, if you're with us on Facebook, I've got those early voting location sites.
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SPEAKER_1: I've got them pulled up so you don't have to be tied to the one close to your home,
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SPEAKER_1: but you can actually go and you can vote at any one of the vote centers.
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SPEAKER_1: Mr. President,
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SPEAKER_1: I think based on what I'm hearing,
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SPEAKER_1: there seems to be a lot of engagement as far as voters coming out.
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SPEAKER_2: Well, yeah, I'm excited about what I'm hearing.
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SPEAKER_2: I believe that when people go to the gas station and see the gas prices,
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SPEAKER_2: go to the grocery stores and do many other items,
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SPEAKER_2: they're all concerned about where we are from certainly an economic standpoint.
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SPEAKER_2: And then if you add the war and other things that are going on,
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SPEAKER_2: I think it's causing people to say, hey, I need to go vote.
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SPEAKER_1: It's extremely important.
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SPEAKER_1: And I do believe a lot of folks are really, I'll say, feeling the pinch, if you will.
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SPEAKER_1: They're actually feeling the pain of what's going on.
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SPEAKER_1: And if nothing else, I'll put it like this.
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SPEAKER_1: In a lot of cases,
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SPEAKER_1: you had families that were just tied to,
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SPEAKER_1: you know what,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: whatever, my,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: Republican or Democrat,
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SPEAKER_1: you know, husband or significant other, whoever they chose, I just rode with it.
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SPEAKER_1: I think right now you have a lot of people that are really paying attention
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SPEAKER_1: and they're like, well, wait a minute now.
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SPEAKER_1: You know, there's some things that's affecting us as a family.
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SPEAKER_1: You know,
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SPEAKER_1: there's some folks like Marjorie Taylor Greene that's like,
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SPEAKER_1: wait a minute now,
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SPEAKER_1: I've got,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: folks in my family that I love that need health care and we're destroying it.
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SPEAKER_1: And they're being honest about their own personal situations.
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SPEAKER_1: And I think that's important to take that mindset to the polls.
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SPEAKER_2: Well,
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SPEAKER_2: I think the Big Beautiful Bill and the things that they have in it that clashes
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SPEAKER_2: so many of these benefits are causing people to say,
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SPEAKER_2: I got to revisit this because I think,
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SPEAKER_2: you know,
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SPEAKER_2: one thing about it, the Big Beautiful Bill did not just impact one race of people.
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SPEAKER_2: So it's coming across the spectrum.
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SPEAKER_2: And I think that a lot of people are suffering and they're saying,
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SPEAKER_2: wait a minute, I'm suffering here.
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SPEAKER_2: Maybe they thought they wouldn't have to suffer.
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SPEAKER_2: They thought maybe only certain other people would have to suffer.
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SPEAKER_2: And that's not the case.
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SPEAKER_2: This is a case where,
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SPEAKER_2: based on economics,
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SPEAKER_2: People are suffering across the board,
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SPEAKER_2: even from an education standpoint,
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SPEAKER_2: from a healthcare standpoint,
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SPEAKER_2: just affordability issues,
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SPEAKER_2: the whole issue around data centers,
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SPEAKER_2: and the fear of what utility prices,
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SPEAKER_2: which are already going up, that were going up prior to data centers.
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SPEAKER_2: So people are looking like, wait a minute, I can't sustain...
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SPEAKER_2: With those things continuing to climb.
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SPEAKER_2: And so I think they woke up, I think people woke up and said, I need to go vote.
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SPEAKER_2: I'm hoping that people who would normally wait for like
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SPEAKER_2: a presidential election saying, nope, I need to send a clear message.
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SPEAKER_2: I need to send it now because they're being impacted by this stuff.
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SPEAKER_2: These things are real and they're taking place right now, not in 2028.
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SPEAKER_2: So the time to exercise your right and clear the message is right now
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SPEAKER_2: or else we will see this continue if they feel like,
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SPEAKER_2: well, this is business as usual.
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SPEAKER_2: People really didn't care about it.
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SPEAKER_2: Then we'll probably see these prices continue and you'll see legislators
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SPEAKER_2: and counselors turn their head to data centers and that type of stuff
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SPEAKER_2: and it'll move quickly.
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SPEAKER_2: But if the community comes out and votes and exercises its right to vote,
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SPEAKER_2: I think that will send a clear message that will cause some people to say, well,
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SPEAKER_2: maybe I can't be the face of standing up supporting this
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SPEAKER_2: because they will fear what's going to happen next because next year you got
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SPEAKER_2: a council race.
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SPEAKER_2: So there will be people, the counselors are looking at how does this work out.
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SPEAKER_2: And if the people are upset about this stuff and they're talking
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SPEAKER_2: about affordability issues,
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SPEAKER_2: I'm not sure a counselor who wants to get reelected is going to be the face of,
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SPEAKER_2: yeah, let's go bring this data center in.
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SPEAKER_2: And I'm not telling the community how it's going to get paid for from a utility perspective.
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SPEAKER_2: They know they would definitely have Beginning primary.
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SPEAKER_2: And, you know, they'd have a battle on their hands if they're going to sustain that.
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SPEAKER_2: So it's important that we get out and vote.
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SPEAKER_1: Well, when you really look at it now, you have a lot of folks that in it.
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SPEAKER_1: And it's funny how,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: data centers have kind of been the area where people for
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SPEAKER_1: the most part have come together.
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SPEAKER_1: You know,
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SPEAKER_1: where they can say we have a similar concern or here's something that,
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SPEAKER_1: you know, we can look at and say, well, we're not in favor of and agree on.
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SPEAKER_1: It's on one hand, it's great.
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SPEAKER_1: And hopefully people are looking at that and saying, yeah, we need to discuss it.
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SPEAKER_1: We need to talk about it.
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SPEAKER_1: But on another hand, it's like that's the issue.
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SPEAKER_1: This is the one because there's been so many other issues,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: that really folks could have galvanized together on over the last 10 years.
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SPEAKER_2: Oh, without a doubt.
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SPEAKER_2: But I think there's something about the pocketbook.
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SPEAKER_2: You know, it's all about the money, right?
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SPEAKER_2: And so when you begin to immediately attack the pocketbook,
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SPEAKER_2: which is what you see when you look at,
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SPEAKER_2: you know,
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SPEAKER_2: gas prices,
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SPEAKER_2: where they are in our city and what's happening with food prices,
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SPEAKER_2: et cetera, rents have gone up, all those things that are geared around economics.
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SPEAKER_2: And keep in mind,
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SPEAKER_2: you have people asking for more money and you're cutting benefits,
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SPEAKER_2: health care, et cetera.
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SPEAKER_2: Well, that gets to be personal.
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SPEAKER_2: You can no longer say,
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SPEAKER_2: well, I'm not going to be impacted by it because you're not living in isolation.
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SPEAKER_2: So now you've got to wake up and say, I need to go vote.
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SPEAKER_2: I need to go send the message because this is not like it only impacts them.
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SPEAKER_2: Now it's impacting us.
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SPEAKER_2: And us should say, man, I need to go vote versus, well, it ain't really impacting me anyway.
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SPEAKER_2: I'll let them figure it out.
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SPEAKER_2: Well,
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SPEAKER_2: the them to me is turning to an us because if you're not in the top 1% and you're in
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SPEAKER_2: the 99%,
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SPEAKER_2: then we're all in the same boat because our costs are going consistently up.
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SPEAKER_2: And the things you hear are things that raise the cost.
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SPEAKER_2: You don't hear things that say, well, this is what's going to come.
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SPEAKER_2: And in the next three months, it's going to lower your costs.
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SPEAKER_2: That ain't the message.
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SPEAKER_2: We're all concerned about what's next in terms of costs.
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SPEAKER_2: In terms of what's going up,
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SPEAKER_2: whether that's in some cases,
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SPEAKER_2: referendums,
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SPEAKER_2: whether that's health care costs,
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SPEAKER_2: whether that's, you know, interest rate stuff, costs, credit card debt.
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SPEAKER_2: I mean, all of that stuff is additional costs.
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SPEAKER_2: And people are looking at those things when they go to the stores, etc.
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SPEAKER_2: They got to be thinking about these costs.
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SPEAKER_2: Thanksgiving is going to be more expensive.
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SPEAKER_2: Christmas is going to be more expensive.
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SPEAKER_2: That's the reality.
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SPEAKER_2: And we're in that boat, unless you're the top 1%, then you're not worried about it.
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SPEAKER_2: But everybody else is having to think about that.
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SPEAKER_2: And I think that's going to drive people to the polls.
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SPEAKER_2: I think that's what we're seeing and hearing and experiencing.
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SPEAKER_1: Well, speaking about driving people to the polls,
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SPEAKER_1: this coming up weekend,
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SPEAKER_1: there's going to be Marion County souls to the polls, Mr. President.
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SPEAKER_1: So all of the township
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SPEAKER_1: vote centers that are open, That opened on last weekend.
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SPEAKER_1: There's going to be souls to the polls right after church.
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SPEAKER_1: There's going to be a lot of churches that are going to be galvanizing
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SPEAKER_1: the congregations and saying we're going to go out together and vote.
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SPEAKER_1: And you can do that this coming Sunday.
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SPEAKER_1: Mr. President,
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SPEAKER_1: kind of speak a little bit more,
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SPEAKER_1: you know, with the overall collaborative effort for souls to the polls.
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SPEAKER_2: I can't say it was a collaborative effort because I was just finding this out today
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SPEAKER_2: in terms of getting that flyer.
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SPEAKER_2: So I would have said to the organizers,
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SPEAKER_2: make sure you get it to the pastors at least a week or two earlier
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SPEAKER_2: so they could share with their congregations versus dropping it on them Sunday.
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SPEAKER_2: Say, hey, by the way, right after church, we need to go do this.
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SPEAKER_2: But I definitely support people going to go vote.
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SPEAKER_2: I think that you've talked earlier on other shows about the importance of –
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SPEAKER_2: A greater collaboration, greater planning.
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SPEAKER_2: This is one of them that needs that.
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SPEAKER_2: I hope people will do it,
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SPEAKER_2: but I would love for pastors to have had this in their announcements
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SPEAKER_2: or emphasis period last week or two weeks ago.
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SPEAKER_2: I mean, it kind of tells me that some of the people engaged in
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SPEAKER_2: the planning process didn't necessarily run that fast.
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SPEAKER_2: Any pastors that would have said, hey,
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SPEAKER_2: wait a minute,
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SPEAKER_2: if you're going to do that,
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SPEAKER_2: You need to at least get this out a couple of weeks earlier.
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SPEAKER_2: It's not like you didn't know when election day was coming or when you were doing this.
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SPEAKER_2: So I was vaguely aware that, hey, from the part there was going to be something.
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SPEAKER_2: It's just, you know, this is a little late getting out.
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SPEAKER_2: But, you know,
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SPEAKER_2: we'll do the best we can to obviously to promote it,
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SPEAKER_2: encourage people to participate.
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SPEAKER_2: The main thing is we have to make sure we go vote.
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SPEAKER_2: And it's calling for rain on Tuesday now.
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SPEAKER_2: And so my concern,
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SPEAKER_2: Reverend Alexander,
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SPEAKER_2: is People don't want to get wet,
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SPEAKER_2: and I don't see them standing outside to get into some facility.
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SPEAKER_2: So, you know, if Sunday is like it has been the rest of this week, go vote.
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SPEAKER_2: Get it done.
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SPEAKER_2: Go to one of these facilities and go vote because you can vote in any
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SPEAKER_2: of these facilities in our county, live in the county.
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SPEAKER_2: So that's what I would say.
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SPEAKER_1: So they're all listed on our Facebook page there and all the townships of where you can go.
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SPEAKER_1: Once again, all of those locations opened up this past weekend.
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SPEAKER_1: If you'd like to be part of our conversation, you can join by calling into the studio.
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SPEAKER_1: That number is 317-480-1310.
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SPEAKER_1: You can also comment on our Facebook feed.
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SPEAKER_1: We do have a caller and we've got some comments too I'm going to attend to.
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SPEAKER_1: Let's go ahead and bring our caller in, Joyce.
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SPEAKER_3: Okay, so I voted last Friday at the city-county building,
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SPEAKER_3: but, you know, they have a website where you don't know who's representing what.
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SPEAKER_3: You can go on and pick it,
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SPEAKER_3: but tomorrow ain't promised for nobody,
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SPEAKER_3: so I would say you get out while you're still sucking air and vote now.
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SPEAKER_3: Okay.
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SPEAKER_3: But that's your option.
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SPEAKER_3: Everybody have choices.
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SPEAKER_3: There are other concerns in the community, like these people playing crazy.
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SPEAKER_3: I'm sorry, maybe that ain't the right term.
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SPEAKER_3: But when you go sacrificing your children,
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SPEAKER_3: throwing them in the water and things, that's sort of spooky to me.
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SPEAKER_3: And Halloween don't make it right.
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SPEAKER_3: Hmm.
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SPEAKER_1: All right.
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SPEAKER_1: Hey, Joyce, you have some interference in your phone line.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm not sure what that is.
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SPEAKER_3: That's my home, man.
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SPEAKER_3: Home line.
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SPEAKER_3: I ain't got no... Yeah, okay.
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SPEAKER_3: I have a blessed day.
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SPEAKER_3: Thank you for taking my call.
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SPEAKER_1: Will you be blessed as well?
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SPEAKER_1: Continue to listen.
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SPEAKER_1: You know...
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SPEAKER_1: Even as Joyce brought up some of the community issues,
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SPEAKER_1: a lot of this stuff is tied to your legislators,
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SPEAKER_1: to what they're voting,
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SPEAKER_1: what they're putting into legislation,
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SPEAKER_1: what they're doing in regards to providing resources,
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SPEAKER_1: how they're taking away resources.
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SPEAKER_1: We're going to talk about Medicaid and HIP here in a little bit.
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SPEAKER_1: That's an area that's legislated and what they're doing.
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SPEAKER_1: So a lot of that, it's important to vote for that very reason.
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SPEAKER_2: Yeah, I mean, I applaud Joyce for voting and getting it done.
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SPEAKER_2: And tomorrow is not promised, so I agree with that as well.
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SPEAKER_2: You can get it done tomorrow, get it done.
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SPEAKER_2: Because you don't want to run out of time, say I was going to do this, it was on the list.
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SPEAKER_2: Because it matters.
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SPEAKER_2: Because all of these decisions that we're seeing,
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SPEAKER_2: and the actions we're seeing,
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SPEAKER_2: the mean-spiritedness of the things we're seeing,
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SPEAKER_2: most of which is in that book, Project 2025.
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SPEAKER_2: So we're just seeing it play out, Reverend Alexander.
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SPEAKER_2: We can't really say, well, we didn't know anything about it.
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SPEAKER_2: No, when Project 2025 was out,
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SPEAKER_2: we looked at that and we saw these things and they are being played out.
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SPEAKER_2: And so the only way to push back against that, the only thing we have is to vote.
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SPEAKER_2: We have to go vote to send a message that says, we don't want all that.
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SPEAKER_2: We don't like all of that.
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SPEAKER_2: And people understand that Project 2025 only benefits very few.
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SPEAKER_2: It's not going to benefit.
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SPEAKER_2: I mean, you might,
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SPEAKER_2: you know,
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SPEAKER_2: have an opinion about something,
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SPEAKER_2: but you got to understand Project 2025 is about the 1%.
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SPEAKER_2: I mean, why are they cutting education and health care and on down?
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SPEAKER_2: Why are they doing it?
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SPEAKER_2: Where's that money going when they save it?
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SPEAKER_2: Who's getting it?
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SPEAKER_2: Where does it eventually go to?
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SPEAKER_2: If we're going to save all this money, we're going to do all these cuts for the amount of time.
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SPEAKER_2: Where does this money end up at?
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SPEAKER_2: Because it's not coming back to the community because he's taking it from the community.
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SPEAKER_2: So this is the group he's going to take it from.
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SPEAKER_2: He's going to say, community, if you want quality education, you spend more money for it.
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SPEAKER_2: You want health care, you personally spend more money for it.
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SPEAKER_2: So when they take this away from the community,
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SPEAKER_2: they're on the other side saying,
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SPEAKER_2: you want something of quality, you pay more for it.
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SPEAKER_2: But what happened to the safeties?
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SPEAKER_2: Where did it go?
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SPEAKER_1: You know what, Mr. President?
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SPEAKER_1: Here's something I want people to realize.
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SPEAKER_1: And I'm going to throw this in, too, because we got a comment on the feed there from John.
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SPEAKER_1: He says, after we vote, then what?
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SPEAKER_1: Well, there is a then what, John, and we need to be prepared for then what?
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SPEAKER_1: Because even if the numbers go a certain way,
18:23
SPEAKER_1: Something's going to have to be done afterwards because I think there's going to be
18:28
SPEAKER_1: a lot of shenanigans in regards to certifying the votes or getting people seated
18:34
SPEAKER_1: from voting.
18:36
SPEAKER_1: I believe that's going to happen.
18:38
SPEAKER_1: But what I wanted to add to that is that President Trump mentioned,
18:43
SPEAKER_1: you know, something in regards to voting.
18:47
SPEAKER_1: If the election comes out a certain way that we're going to end up like France
18:51
SPEAKER_1: and people are going to be rioting and burning the streets.
18:54
SPEAKER_1: Mr. President,
18:55
SPEAKER_1: I want people to know because you brought it to my attention
18:58
SPEAKER_1: because you mentioned education a few times.
19:01
SPEAKER_1: The reason that France is going through what they're going through now has nothing
19:05
SPEAKER_1: to do with elections.
19:06
SPEAKER_1: It's about the quality of the education system.
19:10
SPEAKER_1: They right now are rioting,
19:12
SPEAKER_1: if you will, protesting because of the fact that the education has gone downhill.
19:22
SPEAKER_1: That's the real reason.
19:23
SPEAKER_1: Trump didn't tell you that.
19:26
SPEAKER_1: So if you want to compare apples to apples,
19:29
SPEAKER_1: think about what Pastor Greene just said,
19:31
SPEAKER_1: you know,
19:32
SPEAKER_1: talking about how people are losing their,
19:34
SPEAKER_1: you know, health care, education and everything.
19:37
SPEAKER_1: That's what it could potentially lead to.
19:40
SPEAKER_1: And we don't want nothing like that.
19:43
SPEAKER_2: Certainly we don't want that.
19:44
SPEAKER_2: And that's why it's so imperative that we go vote.
19:49
SPEAKER_2: Because once you vote,
19:50
SPEAKER_2: you send a message right then and there to potential other candidates,
19:54
SPEAKER_2: the existing candidates.
19:56
SPEAKER_2: Hey, these people who have not been voting, all voted.
20:00
SPEAKER_2: Now, can I win in that type of pool?
20:03
SPEAKER_2: And so they will be thinking like that,
20:05
SPEAKER_2: who want to protect their position, their power, their title, et cetera.
20:09
SPEAKER_2: They will weigh in.
20:11
SPEAKER_2: The problem is when you don't vote, then you have no clout for them to change their mind.
20:15
SPEAKER_2: They go with the people who vote.
20:17
SPEAKER_2: If the people voting say they want X, then that's what they go with.
20:23
SPEAKER_2: But if people voting say Y,
20:25
SPEAKER_2: then they will go that direction because they just want the position of power
20:28
SPEAKER_2: and title.
20:29
SPEAKER_2: And so we have to go vote.
20:31
SPEAKER_2: And once you go vote, then you can hold people accountable to that.
20:34
SPEAKER_2: Because if you go in and you didn't do what you said you were going to do,
20:37
SPEAKER_2: then you know you won't be there very long.
20:39
SPEAKER_2: You can be one term and be out because they're voting or sending a message.
20:44
SPEAKER_2: And I think we got to all wake up and look at this.
20:46
SPEAKER_2: Okay, now, are you excited about the gas prices?
20:50
SPEAKER_2: Are you excited about this war?
20:51
SPEAKER_2: Are you willing to continue to pay for that?
20:53
SPEAKER_2: Are you willing to...
20:54
SPEAKER_2: That pay for a school referendum.
20:56
SPEAKER_2: You're willing to pay more for less quality health care.
21:02
SPEAKER_2: How much are you willing to endure and how much pain you're willing to suffer?
21:05
SPEAKER_2: If you're willing to do that, okay,
21:07
SPEAKER_2: you'll vote,
21:08
SPEAKER_2: you know, and say, or don't vote and say, I don't care how it plays out.
21:13
SPEAKER_2: But if you're concerned about it, you'll say, uh-uh.
21:17
SPEAKER_2: And it should be, hopefully, get beyond you.
21:19
SPEAKER_2: You should be thinking about future generations in here and thinking, Now, wait a minute.
21:24
SPEAKER_2: I need this to be a better place.
21:26
SPEAKER_2: I need this to be a better Indiana.
21:28
SPEAKER_2: I need this to be a better Marion County or whatever county you live in.
21:32
SPEAKER_2: You got to make decisions and say what would be best,
21:36
SPEAKER_2: even get beyond you and say what would be best for the people near me,
21:42
SPEAKER_2: community coming behind me and make those decisions.
21:46
SPEAKER_2: The people in France didn't wake up one day and decide to start rioting.
21:51
SPEAKER_2: That stuff doesn't even come overnight.
21:54
SPEAKER_2: That is years of frustration.
21:59
SPEAKER_2: And when you get a lot of frustrated people dealing with situations,
22:04
SPEAKER_2: then you get this type of action because it's not a one term or one time thing
22:10
SPEAKER_2: to happen.
22:11
SPEAKER_2: It is the frustration of things that have been brought up
22:16
SPEAKER_2: that have not been responded to properly.
22:20
SPEAKER_2: That's how you get there.
22:23
SPEAKER_1: All right, we have to go to our first break of the hour.
22:25
SPEAKER_1: If you'd like to be part of the conversation, you can call in.
22:28
SPEAKER_1: That number is 317-480-1310.
22:32
SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
22:34
SPEAKER_1: When we come back,
22:35
SPEAKER_1: we are going to dive into what's going on with Healthy Indiana Plan
22:40
SPEAKER_1: and what do you need to know and how can you prepare?
22:44
SPEAKER_1: Because that's going to be the most important part.
22:46
SPEAKER_1: You need to start preparing now.
22:48
SPEAKER_1: We're going to talk about that when we return.
22:51
SPEAKER_1: Once again, let's go to our commercial break and we'll catch you on the other side.
22:54
SPEAKER_1: You're listening to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show
22:57
SPEAKER_1: on Praise AM 1310 95.1 FM, Indy's Inspiration Station.
23:05
SPEAKER_1: Welcome back to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show.
23:08
SPEAKER_1: We've been talking about voting and we're getting ready to transition
23:13
SPEAKER_1: and we're going to talk about what's going on with a healthy Indiana plan.
23:18
SPEAKER_1: Well, there's going to be changes.
23:19
SPEAKER_1: You need to be aware of The changes begin January 1 of 2027.
23:26
SPEAKER_1: However,
23:27
SPEAKER_1: you need to be preparing now because when January 1 comes,
23:33
SPEAKER_1: they're going to be asking you for documentation for the last quarter of this year.
23:38
SPEAKER_1: So you need to start saving those receipts.
23:41
SPEAKER_1: You need to start documenting your volunteer hours.
23:46
SPEAKER_1: You need to start documenting and making sure you keeping track of your work hours.
23:52
SPEAKER_1: And then you're going to need to do that in a way that it conforms with the new regulations.
23:58
SPEAKER_1: Mr. President, they're making changes now.
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SPEAKER_1: It's going to affect a lot of people.
24:07
SPEAKER_1: You're on mute, Mr. President.
24:13
SPEAKER_2: Sorry about that.
24:15
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, it's going to impact a number of people.
24:17
SPEAKER_2: Obviously, they want a recent article, 58,000.
24:21
SPEAKER_2: That is the number that they threw out.
24:24
SPEAKER_2: So we need to be aware of that, those changes that are going to take place.
24:30
SPEAKER_2: And remember that the goal of this is, again, to reduce funding.
24:35
SPEAKER_2: It's part of the Project 2025 playbook.
24:40
SPEAKER_2: It's to get, you know, reduce the number.
24:43
SPEAKER_2: So they're going to reduce the number.
24:45
SPEAKER_2: And I want to encourage anybody that are your caregiver,
24:50
SPEAKER_2: somebody who's on Medicaid,
24:51
SPEAKER_2: you want them to keep their Medicaid and not get kicked off and try to get back home
24:55
SPEAKER_2: because that's going to be a lengthy and a difficult process.
24:58
SPEAKER_2: Because remember,
24:59
SPEAKER_2: the whole goal is to reduce the number of people on Medicaid,
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SPEAKER_2: therefore reduce the budget for it.
25:05
SPEAKER_2: Very similar to what happened with CCDF when they took the child care vouchers away.
25:11
SPEAKER_2: Okay, well, they wouldn't add any new child care vouchers, so they were saving money.
25:17
SPEAKER_2: This is the same principle, except it's around Medicaid.
25:23
SPEAKER_2: And so these new things are in place.
25:24
SPEAKER_2: I encourage people to pay attention to the paperwork coming in from FSSA
25:30
SPEAKER_2: and make sure,
25:31
SPEAKER_2: you know,
25:32
SPEAKER_2: if this is your time that you have to go back and recertify,
25:38
SPEAKER_2: pay attention to that because this is probably going to be in that document.
25:42
SPEAKER_2: This month, next month, that will be in the document.
25:46
SPEAKER_2: And you need to pay attention to what it says and what's going to be required.
25:49
SPEAKER_2: Are there waiver options?
25:51
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, but you better know what they are and what paperwork is required for that.
25:55
SPEAKER_2: Even with this thing,
25:56
SPEAKER_2: if you're able to recertify,
25:58
SPEAKER_2: this recertification is going to take place every three months.
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SPEAKER_2: So every three months, you got to go and make sure you're tracking this data.
26:06
SPEAKER_2: And then I will say this to you, that keep copies of all this paperwork.
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SPEAKER_2: Because something could get lost.
26:13
SPEAKER_2: I mean, in the midst of trying to do all this,
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SPEAKER_2: FSSA is not fully staffed, so something could get lost.
26:20
SPEAKER_2: But if you can't produce it, they're going to win.
26:24
SPEAKER_2: Now, you can be mad about it,
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SPEAKER_2: but Reverend Alexander,
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SPEAKER_2: they're going to win if they say, well, we didn't get this document.
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SPEAKER_2: So you need to keep that document.
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SPEAKER_2: And for a period of time to make sure that you can stay connected to your Medicaid
26:39
SPEAKER_2: and receive your benefits.
26:41
SPEAKER_2: Because the goal is to reduce that number.
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SPEAKER_2: Even the governor has come out and said, we're going to reduce the number of people on Medicaid.
26:48
SPEAKER_2: That is the goal.
26:49
SPEAKER_2: That is what they're going to do.
26:51
SPEAKER_2: And so everybody ain't going to be there.
26:54
SPEAKER_2: And so if you don't want to hand them the ammunition by not doing dot every I,
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SPEAKER_2: cross every T,
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SPEAKER_2: For these various options,
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SPEAKER_2: and if you're going to be exempt,
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SPEAKER_2: make sure you're completing all the paperwork and doing it at the right time,
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SPEAKER_2: make sure it's getting to the right place,
27:13
SPEAKER_2: et cetera,
27:14
SPEAKER_2: because all that's going to be a part of this process,
27:16
SPEAKER_2: and I apologize for putting it up on Facebook page so people can see.
27:21
SPEAKER_2: We did send out this document to a number of people earlier,
27:26
SPEAKER_2: and if somebody needs a copy of it,
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SPEAKER_2: if you can just put your email address in the In the Facebook chat,
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SPEAKER_2: we'll make sure we send it out to you.
27:35
SPEAKER_2: We want everybody to have it.
27:36
SPEAKER_2: You need to be able to share it.
27:38
SPEAKER_2: If you've got a caregiver on Medicaid, make sure they know about this because this is real.
27:44
SPEAKER_2: We're not fear-mongering.
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SPEAKER_2: We just want you to know what's happening and be prepared as they're going to cut the benefits.
27:54
SPEAKER_1: It's starting now.
27:57
SPEAKER_1: You may say, well, I had until January 1 to get ready to conform.
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SPEAKER_1: You need to start now.
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SPEAKER_1: You need to get into the habit of saving those documents.
28:09
SPEAKER_1: And Mr. President, I'm going to say something else in addition to that.
28:14
SPEAKER_1: Because you can't depend on the U.S. Post Office.
28:17
SPEAKER_1: You can't depend your documents going to get there.
28:19
SPEAKER_1: You can't depend that you're going to be able just to walk in,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: without an appointment because just like what happened with Social Security,
28:27
SPEAKER_1: when they made changes there, they were too overwhelmed.
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SPEAKER_1: People couldn't get serviced.
28:32
SPEAKER_1: That could very possibly happen.
28:34
SPEAKER_1: So here's what I'm going to recommend.
28:36
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to recommend that you get used to the website because the website is going
28:41
SPEAKER_1: to be set up.
28:41
SPEAKER_1: The FSSA website will be set up so you can upload your documents.
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SPEAKER_1: You can upload them, take a photo, throw them in there, and you know they're there.
28:51
SPEAKER_1: So if you happen to have any doubts, every time you go into your account, you'll see them there.
28:58
SPEAKER_1: Let's go ahead.
28:59
SPEAKER_1: I think Joyce is back.
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SPEAKER_1: Let's go ahead and bring her in real quick.
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SPEAKER_3: Yeah, thanks for taking my call.
29:07
SPEAKER_3: What you just mentioned about how you can go on the website.
29:11
SPEAKER_3: Well, I was born in the 50s,
29:12
SPEAKER_3: so that don't really,
29:14
SPEAKER_3: I got to get my grandkids,
29:17
SPEAKER_3: my children and all of them to, this ain't, I need human interaction.
29:24
SPEAKER_3: How about that?
29:25
SPEAKER_3: What's wrong with that premise?
29:27
SPEAKER_3: Because I get robocalls on a continuum.
29:32
SPEAKER_3: About Medicare.
29:34
SPEAKER_3: Oh, that's spooky.
29:37
SPEAKER_3: And so many other practices are spooky.
29:41
SPEAKER_3: But, you know, it don't affect nobody until your fat's on the fire, is my opinion.
29:50
SPEAKER_3: But, you know, is my phone breaking up?
29:54
SPEAKER_1: It is a little bit.
29:55
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, it really is.
29:57
SPEAKER_1: But, but.
29:58
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, well, y'all get the gist of it.
30:00
SPEAKER_3: Yes.
30:01
SPEAKER_3: Because y'all.
30:03
SPEAKER_3: I retired from the government, and that was in 2017.
30:08
SPEAKER_3: Then COVID struck.
30:10
SPEAKER_3: And then you get with who?
30:13
SPEAKER_3: Who?
30:14
SPEAKER_3: World Health Order, where they had already decided that they need to eliminate the population.
30:22
SPEAKER_1: All right.
30:23
SPEAKER_1: Well, thank you so much for your phone call.
30:24
SPEAKER_1: Now, Joyce did say something again there that I think is kind of...
30:30
SPEAKER_1: It's kind of key in understanding who this is affecting and then how to best service them.
30:36
SPEAKER_1: So we have an option.
30:37
SPEAKER_1: We have an option, you know, okay, I'm going to try to either mail it in, go in.
30:42
SPEAKER_1: But Joyce mentioned something that's very true.
30:44
SPEAKER_1: There are a lot of,
30:45
SPEAKER_1: you know,
30:46
SPEAKER_1: folks that are not savvy,
30:48
SPEAKER_1: you know, when it comes to working with, whether it be computers or any of that.
30:52
SPEAKER_1: But she said get, you know, she may have to get one of her grandkids.
30:56
SPEAKER_1: And that's something you may just have to do.
30:58
SPEAKER_1: You may have to maybe get a church member,
31:03
SPEAKER_1: you know, son,
31:04
SPEAKER_1: daughter,
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SPEAKER_1: grandson,
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SPEAKER_1: granddaughter,
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SPEAKER_1: but have somebody that can at least,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: that's trustworthy,
31:11
SPEAKER_1: that can help at least get you, in most cases, it'll take 15, 20 minutes.
31:16
SPEAKER_1: You can do it from your couch.
31:18
SPEAKER_1: Get those documents uploaded.
31:20
SPEAKER_1: And that's better to find an individual person.
31:25
SPEAKER_1: Then going through the hassle that a lot of folks may experience coming up.
31:31
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, I mean,
31:32
SPEAKER_2: I certainly hear the frustration and know the frustration that will be with
31:37
SPEAKER_2: the top end of this in terms of the age group that will be nearly as computer savvy.
31:43
SPEAKER_2: And that's why I think it's important that all of us are aware of this.
31:49
SPEAKER_2: Those that are in caregiving mode,
31:52
SPEAKER_2: we have to understand this and help that person get through this.
31:55
SPEAKER_2: Because remember now, this ain't a one-time event.
31:59
SPEAKER_2: You got to be doing this every three months.
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SPEAKER_2: That's the part of the chain.
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SPEAKER_1: This is the new norm, Mr. President.
32:05
SPEAKER_2: You can make it in January and make it in April and then lose it in October or September.
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SPEAKER_2: And so you don't want that to happen.
32:14
SPEAKER_2: So we need that person who...
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SPEAKER_2: Loves Grandma, whoever they're caregiving for.
32:20
SPEAKER_2: Says, I'm going to put it on their calendar.
32:23
SPEAKER_2: They got something that's going to remind them to get this done.
32:27
SPEAKER_2: Because you don't want to get kicked off over technicality.
32:30
SPEAKER_2: Well, you was one day late.
32:32
SPEAKER_2: And you put it in the mail, but it came a day late.
32:35
SPEAKER_2: You don't want any of that stuff.
32:38
SPEAKER_2: And I understand that you will need people...
32:42
SPEAKER_2: Some people will need people to assist them in that process to make sure because
32:47
SPEAKER_2: the whole thing is it's mean spirited.
32:50
SPEAKER_2: It's really designed for you to mess up, get cut off, jump in the process.
32:56
SPEAKER_2: They're going to tell you, well, you know, you can sign up again.
32:59
SPEAKER_2: OK, you can sign up again, fill out the applications, all this stuff.
33:03
SPEAKER_2: But they tell you how long it's going to take for you to get back in.
33:07
SPEAKER_2: Right.
33:08
SPEAKER_2: And so what if it's six months or nine months?
33:11
SPEAKER_2: Well, what are you doing for your health care over the six to nine months?
33:15
SPEAKER_2: Because,
33:15
SPEAKER_2: you know,
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SPEAKER_2: you don't get to say,
33:16
SPEAKER_2: well, you know, I can't take my blood pressure medicine or I can't afford it.
33:22
SPEAKER_2: You don't want them in that boat.
33:23
SPEAKER_2: I mean, this stuff that we're doing with this right here,
33:27
SPEAKER_2: with the intent of kicking people off,
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SPEAKER_2: people literally are going to die over this, Reverend.
33:34
SPEAKER_2: Alexander.
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SPEAKER_2: And that's what we need to understand.
33:37
SPEAKER_2: Because somebody...
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SPEAKER_2: If they get kicked off, they don't make enough money to pay for this medicine.
33:43
SPEAKER_1: Absolutely.
33:45
SPEAKER_2: And they're going to go to the doctor with some issues because you can't afford that
33:50
SPEAKER_2: on just go pay for that.
33:53
SPEAKER_2: I mean, to be eligible for Medicaid requires I got only a certain level of income.
33:58
SPEAKER_2: So you know you can't pick up health care with no insurance, basically.
34:05
SPEAKER_1: You said a mouthful.
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SPEAKER_1: You said a mouthful.
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SPEAKER_1: And one thing that they have said, FSSA has
34:13
SPEAKER_1: said that the exemptions are not even clear.
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SPEAKER_1: They still need clarity on what those exemptions are.
34:20
SPEAKER_1: So they're telling you we're rolling something out and we don't even have all the details yet.
34:27
SPEAKER_1: That right there is scary, but that's what they're doing.
34:31
SPEAKER_1: Hey, we got to go to our last break.
34:32
SPEAKER_1: When we come back, we'll go back to the phone lines.
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SPEAKER_1: We got Imhotep that's holding.
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SPEAKER_1: So Imhotep, just hang in there.
34:38
SPEAKER_1: We'll go to our commercial break and we'll catch you on the other side.
34:41
SPEAKER_1: You're listening to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show on Praise AM 1310,
34:45
SPEAKER_1: 95.1 FM, Indy's Inspiration Station.
34:52
SPEAKER_1: Welcome back to the show.
34:54
SPEAKER_1: We're talking about HIP changes,
34:57
SPEAKER_1: healthy Indiana plan changes that's going to be affecting those that are
35:00
SPEAKER_1: on Medicaid.
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SPEAKER_1: If you'd like to be part of the conversation, you can call into the radio station.
35:05
SPEAKER_1: The number is 317-480-1310.
35:08
SPEAKER_1: Before we get to our caller, I want to comment here.
35:11
SPEAKER_1: Denise put in the chat, Mr.
35:13
SPEAKER_1: President,
35:14
SPEAKER_1: that it's unethical,
35:15
SPEAKER_1: especially now you got a lot of baby boomers that are getting ready to get into
35:18
SPEAKER_1: the nursing home system.
35:20
SPEAKER_1: You have a lot of people that are going to be affected.
35:23
SPEAKER_1: And while you can get a lawyer for about $400,
35:26
SPEAKER_1: we're trying to help you where you don't have to do that because a lot
35:30
SPEAKER_1: of folks don't have that.
35:31
SPEAKER_1: But I take Denise's point there that you got a lot of folks that...
35:37
SPEAKER_1: Are at the age right now where they're struggling and,
35:41
SPEAKER_1: you know,
35:42
SPEAKER_1: having more benefits taken away,
35:44
SPEAKER_1: definitely is it going to contribute to their being healthy?
35:48
SPEAKER_1: And you said it before our break.
35:50
SPEAKER_1: You said people are going to die.
35:53
SPEAKER_1: Let's go ahead and bring in our caller.
35:54
SPEAKER_1: We've got Imhotep on the line.
35:59
SPEAKER_4: Good evening, gentlemen.
36:00
SPEAKER_4: Good evening.
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SPEAKER_4: Thank you for taking my call.
36:02
SPEAKER_4: That subject is near and dear to my heart, being a For your health care professional, it is.
36:09
SPEAKER_4: Before I just elaborate real quick, I know your time is short.
36:12
SPEAKER_4: I've been battling the last week and a half,
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SPEAKER_4: two weeks,
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SPEAKER_4: either personally,
36:19
SPEAKER_4: the people,
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SPEAKER_4: young people I've talked to personally said they have or voted early or are going
36:23
SPEAKER_4: to vote.
36:24
SPEAKER_4: But yet online,
36:25
SPEAKER_4: I have been battling with some whose vote doesn't matter and some people who's
36:30
SPEAKER_4: in our age bracket.
36:31
SPEAKER_4: You know, I'm 60, so I'm late 50s and others that vote don't matter now.
36:36
SPEAKER_4: I understand Citizens United get big money,
36:39
SPEAKER_4: get the influence,
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SPEAKER_4: but I had to break them down to the smallest common denominator,
36:43
SPEAKER_4: least common denominator.
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SPEAKER_4: Your mayor, your mayor produces your police, your prosecutor.
36:49
SPEAKER_4: You can see the ad that Ryan Mears is running.
36:52
SPEAKER_4: Your school board, we just talked about that ad you ran.
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SPEAKER_4: Your treasurer, your assessor, your city council.
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SPEAKER_4: You have,
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SPEAKER_4: you know,
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SPEAKER_4: it's like,
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SPEAKER_4: it's like,
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SPEAKER_4: I don't want to,
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SPEAKER_4: I don't believe in saying dumb things down,
37:03
SPEAKER_4: because like in health care,
37:04
SPEAKER_4: when we give instructions to people,
37:06
SPEAKER_4: or like when I first used to start drawing blood on a lot of people,
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SPEAKER_4: and I would explain stuff to them, you just meet people where they are.
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SPEAKER_4: And so I think if I can communicate to the politicians or anybody,
37:17
SPEAKER_4: they just need to start meeting people where they are,
37:19
SPEAKER_4: and then they can understand the importance of voting.
37:22
SPEAKER_4: The health care issue has just been detrimental since Trump's got in.
37:26
SPEAKER_4: And the genesis of these cuts go back to that big, ugly bill.
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SPEAKER_4: The big, beautiful, the big, ugly bill.
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SPEAKER_4: We're seeing so many cuts in health care.
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SPEAKER_4: It's ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_4: Friends of mine that work in surgery in various hospitals around
37:40
SPEAKER_4: the city are seeing major, major slowdowns.
37:43
SPEAKER_4: People, if you think hospitals make money on inpatients,
37:46
SPEAKER_4: that's not where the bulk of the money comes in from hospitals.
37:48
SPEAKER_4: It comes in from surgeries.
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SPEAKER_4: Surgeries bring in the most, especially ortho.
37:52
SPEAKER_4: Ortho brings in the most.
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SPEAKER_4: Knees, hips, and all that are bringing a lot of money.
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SPEAKER_4: 80% of all revenue for IU is It comes through Medicare and Medicaid.
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SPEAKER_4: I think 90%, 85%, I think, for community systems.
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SPEAKER_4: St. Vincent, I think, is down some, down lower than theirs.
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SPEAKER_4: And we know Eskenazi's up there probably in the 90s or whatever.
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SPEAKER_4: These cuts have just been drastic.
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SPEAKER_4: I've known people being up, nurses have been getting sent home.
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SPEAKER_4: They're having to cut shifts.
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SPEAKER_4: They're going in and getting shifts because of the lack of either surgery.
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SPEAKER_4: They're putting them out.
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SPEAKER_4: ER has been told in various places.
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SPEAKER_4: Unless you have a heart attack, stroke,
38:29
SPEAKER_4: Or you just have been a debilitating MVA,
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SPEAKER_4: motor vehicle accident, something like that.
38:33
SPEAKER_4: You are getting going home.
38:35
SPEAKER_4: Going to your point you just made talking about what the lady said about the nursing homes.
38:39
SPEAKER_4: That has been an issue too.
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SPEAKER_4: A lot of people, you have a lot of substance abuse and people that are substance abuse disorder.
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SPEAKER_4: So they don't qualify for Medicaid waiver.
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SPEAKER_4: And they're too young for Medicare.
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SPEAKER_4: So a lot of nursing homes are just eating that cost.
38:54
SPEAKER_4: And so then...
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SPEAKER_4: The truth of the matter is we really don't know how many people that died because
38:59
SPEAKER_4: of red and green.
39:00
SPEAKER_4: You're right.
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SPEAKER_4: More people are going to die.
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SPEAKER_4: And to a certain extent, Joyce is right.
39:04
SPEAKER_4: It's not so much who, Joyce, because that's an international organization.
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SPEAKER_4: You can just look at the American system itself that don't want to take care of people.
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SPEAKER_4: But for the most part, we don't know how many people we lost from COVID-19.
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SPEAKER_4: But the nursing homes still haven't recovered from that.
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SPEAKER_1: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_4: So the fact remains that you still have those people that may be in that 70
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SPEAKER_4: to 85 range that may have to go to a nurse of long-term care, something like that.
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SPEAKER_4: It's going to be a real big issue.
39:35
SPEAKER_4: Buckle up, families, and probably get ready to do shifts to take care of your loved ones.
39:39
SPEAKER_4: They call us the sandwich generation for a reason.
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SPEAKER_4: Get ready to be sandwiched even more.
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SPEAKER_1: All right.
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SPEAKER_4: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_1: I've laughed a lot there, Mr. President.
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SPEAKER_1: You got any comments?
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SPEAKER_2: Well, I mean,
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SPEAKER_2: he just spoke a lot of truth of where we really are and the choices and decisions
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SPEAKER_2: that will have to be made.
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SPEAKER_2: I mean, it is the things about hospitals and what they're doing.
40:05
SPEAKER_2: You know, I've I know people work in the field, so that's true.
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SPEAKER_2: That stuff is occurring as well.
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SPEAKER_2: So it's just a challenge right now.
40:15
SPEAKER_2: And you said buckle up.
40:18
SPEAKER_2: And this is a piece of buckling up.
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SPEAKER_2: This piece right here that we're talking about Medicaid, that's buckle up stuff.
40:23
SPEAKER_2: That's, you know, you got somebody you care about, you need to follow up with them.
40:29
SPEAKER_2: You need to share this information we're sharing tonight.
40:33
SPEAKER_1: Let's talk about that even a little bit more.
40:36
SPEAKER_1: So I've got it once again up on our Facebook page.
40:39
SPEAKER_1: It looks very plain.
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SPEAKER_1: They've got one,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
40:42
SPEAKER_1: you'll see a lot of cases,
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SPEAKER_1: just a little plain white envelope with a plain white sheet there with FSSA written
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SPEAKER_1: in it and just there on the top of the page.
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SPEAKER_1: Then they go into, you know, sharing that you will need once again.
40:59
SPEAKER_1: I'm not sure if we really highlighted this, but 80 hours of documentation on work, volunteer.
41:07
SPEAKER_1: Let's go ahead and talk about that as a matter of fact.
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SPEAKER_1: Okay, so 80 hours each month,
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SPEAKER_1: one or more,
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SPEAKER_1: so you can have combined on the activities,
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SPEAKER_1: working at a job,
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SPEAKER_1: community service or volunteering,
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SPEAKER_1: college or job training, and internship or work program.
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SPEAKER_1: Now, in addition to that, it's not as simple as saying I'm in a work program.
41:34
SPEAKER_1: Um, because they also say that you need to work and earn at least $580 in a month.
41:41
SPEAKER_1: So they are even saying how much money they got a minimum wage,
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SPEAKER_1: if you will, on your, before you can, on your benefits here.
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SPEAKER_1: So $580 a month is what they're saying, um, that you have to make.
41:57
SPEAKER_1: So, Mr. President, there's a lot, you know, once again, that folks need to be preparing for.
42:02
SPEAKER_1: And once again, they need to start that right now.
42:06
SPEAKER_2: They need to start that because that's going to be part of if you're already
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SPEAKER_2: on Medicaid, that's going to be part of your recertification process.
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SPEAKER_2: That person is going to ask you.
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SPEAKER_2: Do you have documents that can support?
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SPEAKER_2: That's why you got to hold on to pay stubs and that type of paperwork.
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SPEAKER_2: Don't just throw that stuff away because they're going to ask you for that and say,
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SPEAKER_2: have you been working this past month?
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SPEAKER_2: Where is it at?
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SPEAKER_2: Do you have a check stub to prove it so you can get the show, quote unquote, that $580?
42:36
SPEAKER_2: Now, I find it ironic in the day and age of AI,
42:40
SPEAKER_2: et cetera,
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SPEAKER_2: where unemployment is up,
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SPEAKER_2: and especially for black people, Then you're going to say, now you got to make $580.
42:50
SPEAKER_2: AI took a lot of jobs.
42:51
SPEAKER_2: You go into restaurants.
42:53
SPEAKER_2: Now, hey, you go over to this kiosk where you was talking to a person.
42:58
SPEAKER_2: Go to the kiosk over here and you put in everything and you pay there.
43:03
SPEAKER_2: And this used to be somebody's job.
43:06
SPEAKER_2: And they don't have those jobs.
43:08
SPEAKER_1: Like a human, like Joyce says she
43:10
SPEAKER_2: wanted.
43:11
SPEAKER_2: Exactly.
43:12
SPEAKER_2: She wants a human.
43:12
SPEAKER_2: She wants to talk to a human.
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SPEAKER_2: In a lot of cases, they're trying to guide you through a phone system, talking to AI.
43:21
SPEAKER_2: Those humans, there's fewer of those jobs that you want these people to go get.
43:28
SPEAKER_2: And so on one side,
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SPEAKER_2: we're squeezing the job market because we're using technology to do this stuff.
43:34
SPEAKER_2: But on this other side over here,
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SPEAKER_2: we're mandating now, we need you people to go get and make $580 a month.
43:44
SPEAKER_2: In revenue?
43:45
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, I don't even know, is it feasibly possible?
43:48
SPEAKER_2: I mean, that's why they know we're going to reduce the numbers.
43:52
SPEAKER_2: Because 58,000 people probably can't go get this job
43:55
SPEAKER_2: that already didn't have one based on the unemployment of Indiana.
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SPEAKER_2: I'd have to do some research to say that, definitely.
44:04
SPEAKER_2: But I guarantee you, most likely that's impossible to happen.
44:09
SPEAKER_2: You're talking about somebody who's on Medicaid.
44:11
SPEAKER_2: So they have a disability, something going on anyway.
44:14
SPEAKER_2: So they're not able to go work, quote unquote, in Amazon and move a bunch of boxes, most likely.
44:20
SPEAKER_2: There's going to be a number of people that can't do that type of work.
44:23
SPEAKER_2: So how many of those jobs that they could do are available?
44:30
SPEAKER_1: Well, and even...
44:34
SPEAKER_1: I mean, because we've talked about the unemployment, you know, piece, of course.
44:38
SPEAKER_1: But what you just said hadn't even been thought about.
44:42
SPEAKER_1: I mean, just this week we had Microsoft saying, hey, we want to buy you out 60,000 employees.
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SPEAKER_1: OK, they're saying right now.
44:53
SPEAKER_1: So we're going to have to go in the job market and we got to compete with
44:57
SPEAKER_1: the 60,000 Microsoft employees.
45:00
SPEAKER_1: Guess who else is laying laid off over the last six months or so?
45:03
SPEAKER_1: UPS.
45:04
SPEAKER_1: You know, you got a lot of folks that had careers at UPS.
45:08
SPEAKER_1: You know, they're out there looking for work.
45:10
SPEAKER_1: I mean, Apple.
45:11
SPEAKER_1: I mean, we can just keep going on and on.
45:14
SPEAKER_1: You know,
45:14
SPEAKER_1: people with,
45:15
SPEAKER_1: quote unquote, educations, educations and degrees are out there looking for work.
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SPEAKER_1: They're saying they can't find.
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SPEAKER_2: Exactly.
45:25
SPEAKER_2: If you get past and start thinking about them approaching in a silo,
45:31
SPEAKER_2: but think about, where are these people going to get these jobs at?
45:35
SPEAKER_2: In the system, we're trying to eliminate those jobs.
45:38
SPEAKER_2: The system is saying,
45:40
SPEAKER_2: is there a way we can do this through AI, through technology, and reduce this job?
45:45
SPEAKER_2: And we're seeing it.
45:47
SPEAKER_2: You're going to have to pay to have a human.
45:51
SPEAKER_2: It's going to cost you more to have a human, basically is what we're coming to.
45:54
SPEAKER_2: If you want a human, that's going to cost you more money.
45:58
SPEAKER_2: Everything else is going to get reduced down.
46:03
SPEAKER_2: Where do people who have some limited,
46:05
SPEAKER_2: potential limited skills due to disability, etc., where do they go get their job?
46:12
SPEAKER_2: Where's this job at that they're going to get paid $580?
46:14
SPEAKER_2: Where are they going to make that money?
46:18
SPEAKER_2: Where's that job at is my question.
46:21
SPEAKER_2: And how many of those jobs exist for people to go and get?
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SPEAKER_2: Because I don't think there's that many of those jobs available.
46:29
SPEAKER_2: And if they are available,
46:31
SPEAKER_2: I don't know a year from now they'd be available because technology is
46:34
SPEAKER_2: over here saying, how do we do without you?
46:39
SPEAKER_2: How do we do this?
46:41
SPEAKER_2: I was talking to a gentleman.
46:42
SPEAKER_2: Earlier today, he called for a mechanic.
46:47
SPEAKER_2: A lot of times these shops have an advisor for them.
46:50
SPEAKER_2: This time he had an AI advisor.
46:53
SPEAKER_2: Wow.
46:54
SPEAKER_2: Wow.
46:57
SPEAKER_2: Wow.
46:57
SPEAKER_2: AI advisor even had a name.
46:59
SPEAKER_2: I think it was Adam or something.
47:02
SPEAKER_2: We're trying to make it more difficult.
47:05
SPEAKER_2: For somebody to talk to a human, going back to Joyce this morning, it's design.
47:10
SPEAKER_2: Well, we're trying to get you used to a computer,
47:14
SPEAKER_2: used to doing it a certain way that does not have the human touch.
47:18
SPEAKER_2: And if you're going to get to a human,
47:20
SPEAKER_2: I guarantee you across the board,
47:23
SPEAKER_2: it's going to be something that's going to cost you more money.
47:27
SPEAKER_2: That's where we're going in the world today.
47:29
SPEAKER_2: It's like, okay, you might can get to a human.
47:32
SPEAKER_2: But, you know, hey,
47:33
SPEAKER_2: the restaurant with a human is a lot more expensive than the one with the kiosk
47:37
SPEAKER_2: over here.
47:39
SPEAKER_2: Now, you can pick and choose, but you know that's going to be one of the differences over here.
47:46
SPEAKER_2: And it wouldn't surprise me they don't stick the kiosk in you and you walk into
47:50
SPEAKER_2: a walk-in restaurant and still say, hey, here's this kiosk.
47:54
SPEAKER_2: Go for what you know.
47:56
SPEAKER_2: You know, so...
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SPEAKER_2: I just think it's challenging.
48:02
SPEAKER_2: It'll be challenging for everybody to even meet the work requirements on just having employment.
48:09
SPEAKER_2: Now, that volunteer stuff will be key and things maybe that can be done in that area.
48:15
SPEAKER_2: But this is not a simple task right here.
48:22
SPEAKER_1: Well, I want to also tell them, Mr. President, as we only have a couple of minutes here.
48:27
SPEAKER_1: So it says right there in the notice that's going out to folks,
48:30
SPEAKER_1: it says if your renewal is a certain date, they give an example.
48:36
SPEAKER_1: You know,
48:36
SPEAKER_1: for instance,
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SPEAKER_1: if your renewal is May of 2027,
48:40
SPEAKER_1: then you have to show for the previous three months that you met this requirement.
48:47
SPEAKER_1: Okay, it's not where my renewal is going to be in May and I start to clock
48:53
SPEAKER_1: on gathering information.
48:55
SPEAKER_1: No.
48:56
SPEAKER_1: That's why if your renewal is in January,
49:00
SPEAKER_1: you need to start making sure you're getting that information now.
49:04
SPEAKER_1: Don't lose it.
49:06
SPEAKER_1: Once again, find someone to help you load it up so you know it's there.
49:11
SPEAKER_1: One of the things I'll say before we close, Mr.
49:13
SPEAKER_1: President,
49:13
SPEAKER_1: is one of the things,
49:15
SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: When I'm operating online accounts and everything,
49:20
SPEAKER_1: when I call customer service,
49:22
SPEAKER_1: whatever, I'm already looking at it because they really just seeing what I'm seeing.
49:26
SPEAKER_1: So I'm making sure that, hey, pretty much what I see is what you should see.
49:30
SPEAKER_1: And if I got an issue, you don't tell me how to navigate.
49:33
SPEAKER_1: But for the most part,
49:35
SPEAKER_1: we're just looking at the same thing, just on a different side of the glass.
49:39
SPEAKER_1: Yep.
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SPEAKER_1: So.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm kind of done there, Mr. President.
49:43
SPEAKER_1: You got any closing remarks in regards to,
49:46
SPEAKER_1: hey, we're coming into the last, the stretch, if you will, for voting?
49:51
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, go vote.
49:52
SPEAKER_2: And secondly,
49:53
SPEAKER_2: share this information about Medicaid with everybody you know,
49:59
SPEAKER_2: because what you don't know can kill you.
50:02
SPEAKER_2: And this is one of those things you need to be aware of.
50:05
SPEAKER_2: You can't be, you know, in May arguing about it.
50:09
SPEAKER_2: I didn't know.
50:12
SPEAKER_2: And, you know, you got to get started now.
50:14
SPEAKER_2: This is one of those things.
50:15
SPEAKER_2: You get started now,
50:15
SPEAKER_2: you better have a plan because they're looking to kick people off and you don't want
50:20
SPEAKER_2: to get kicked off and try to get back home.
50:23
SPEAKER_2: That's not what you want to do.
50:25
SPEAKER_2: You want to be able to stay on and you need to be lining up with these requirements.
50:31
SPEAKER_1: And we're going to bring this back to you.
50:33
SPEAKER_1: We're just kind of introducing it tonight because we want to make sure folks know,
50:36
SPEAKER_1: but we will certainly Be coming back to it and make sure
50:40
SPEAKER_1: that Pastor Greenee said he's already shared the information.
50:44
SPEAKER_1: We want you to do the same thing.
50:46
SPEAKER_1: Share this information.
50:48
SPEAKER_1: Let your loved ones know because it's a coming.
50:52
SPEAKER_1: Mr. President, thanks for your time on tonight.
50:54
SPEAKER_1: All you listening, listened and called in.
50:57
SPEAKER_1: Appreciate all of you as well.
50:59
SPEAKER_1: But that's the end of our show.
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SPEAKER_1: Be blessed.