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The Thunder Bounce Back And Win Game 2 · Kenny For Real

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  Speaker 1: Let's talk NBA Finals.
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  Speaker 2: Game two final scores one twenty three to one oh
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  Speaker 2: seven just wrapped up, and I don't even know where
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  Speaker 2: to start. Man, do we start with the uh the
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  Speaker 2: Johnny thirty minutes the James Johns said bucket.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: This was one of them games I didn't really have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of expectations for because Game number one was
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  Speaker 2: so great that the likelihood that we get a game
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  Speaker 2: like that again it's pretty low, right, So like expectations
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  Speaker 2: are low, So if something does pop off, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: But also since this was kind of a dud of
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  Speaker 2: a game, I'm still cool. I still got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of notes to talk about. So I think we actually
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  Speaker 2: start off with Shaye. Yeah, we were talking about on
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  Speaker 2: numbers on the board, and I do remind y'all that
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  Speaker 2: these are my initial reactions on the first watch, and
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  Speaker 2: because we got three days in between games, I will
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  Speaker 2: rewatch this game again and we will do a podcast episode,
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  Speaker 2: So go watch the other stuff. But on one of
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  Speaker 2: those podcasts, Mike had asked, what will we grade game
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  Speaker 2: one for shape? And I think I gave it a
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  Speaker 2: beat to be minus. And it's like I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: exactly what it was missing. He had one of the
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  Speaker 2: best NBA Finals debuts if we count talking pure counting stats,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to sow forth. And then I watched
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  Speaker 2: Game two and I recognized what was really missing. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a hyperbolic guy, especially in these recaps because I live
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  Speaker 2: in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: Baby, I love this game so much. I live in
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  Speaker 1: a moment.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite shape performances man, not
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  Speaker 2: his greatest, but one of my favorite. And I think
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  Speaker 2: about what was missing from that game one? Why did
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  Speaker 2: I Why didn't even though he had thirty eight points,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to give him an A minus one
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  Speaker 2: A And reality was it has something to do with
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  Speaker 2: the playmaker and the decision making. Now, I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 2: a lot right here, but I do want a prefaces
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  Speaker 2: to say Shaye does not become the VP of the
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  Speaker 2: league as a lead ball handler without being a plus playmaker.
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  Speaker 2: But tonight, I feel like it was one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite performances because it made me think a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more about Shaye as a player.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in glaze.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I'm in glas because I love I'm a fan
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  Speaker 2: of Shay Gives Alexander. I have been since his rookie
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  Speaker 2: season since summer, Libricky, y'all have found those videos. This's
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  Speaker 2: on House the Highlight, Chinam. You can find those videos
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  Speaker 2: the first game I watched him. Anyway, he's already one
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  Speaker 2: of the greatest individual scorers I've ever watched, full stop,
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest I've ever watched. As a defender,
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  Speaker 2: he keeps on your toes. As the fender, you can't
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  Speaker 2: make a wrong move. As a defender, you can't really
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  Speaker 2: do anything in a lot of cases. He gets to
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  Speaker 2: his spots, he creates spots, he finds new spots to
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  Speaker 2: be at. Hell, you could put a ben at theg
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  Speaker 2: Mathrin on Himho's about the same side. You can hit
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  Speaker 2: him with a turnaround Jay and hit him with the
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  Speaker 2: too small. He is such a great score and he
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  Speaker 2: won league MVP. A lot of that based on his
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  Speaker 2: ability to get to his spots, to be ultra efficient
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  Speaker 2: and be better at the rim than like prime Shaquille O'Neal,
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  Speaker 2: like shit like that, Just crazy random stats like that.
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  Speaker 2: But if he's playmaking and decision making like this, he's
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  Speaker 2: already top three in the league. If this becomes a
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  Speaker 2: regular occurrence where he's keeping the fenders on his toe,
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  Speaker 2: not just keeping him on the toes based on his
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  Speaker 2: own individual production, but how he can spread out the
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  Speaker 2: others now for what is worth game umble one?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody else came along for the ride.
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  Speaker 2: So like, yeah, if I'm Shay and I know I
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  Speaker 2: could create my own shot at will, why the hell
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  Speaker 2: would I give it to jw Oh for four from three,
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  Speaker 2: even though I think he hit his first three, he's
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  Speaker 2: one for four for three.
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  Speaker 1: Why would I give it to Check right here?
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  Speaker 2: When I know my shot that I generate is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be better than what the hell Check gave us a
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  Speaker 2: game one. So I'm giving a benefit of doubt there.
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  Speaker 2: But tonight, man, there were times where they're running pick
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  Speaker 2: and roll, they bring the mouse, turn it up to
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  Speaker 2: the level, and Shay Low dribbled through the pick and
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  Speaker 2: roll coverage and it's just like you can there's seven
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  Speaker 2: different options on the court right now. I can pull
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  Speaker 2: up for a miittee myself. I can get to the
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  Speaker 2: lane and finish through contact, or finish by myself. I
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  Speaker 2: can hit either of the corners.
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  Speaker 1: It's chess.
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  Speaker 2: It was a masterclass like of decision making today, and
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  Speaker 2: that just that was great again, recognizing that this Pacers
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  Speaker 2: team is good enough to go into your house and
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  Speaker 2: take two games away, and if you go down though two,
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  Speaker 2: it might be curtain. So yeah, this is like a
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  Speaker 2: game seven to us. Even though we downplayed are loss
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  Speaker 2: in game one, we recognize we can't let them do
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  Speaker 2: what they just did.
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  Speaker 1: This whole game did feel like that though.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the Thunder go up fifteen and then the
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  Speaker 2: Pacers going a little run Coach Mark dayon all Coss
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  Speaker 2: time out and then they come out of the timeout
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  Speaker 2: and the Thunder going their own little run, and that
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  Speaker 2: was back up to fifteen. And the Pacers are so
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  Speaker 2: good that a fifteen to twenty point lee feels like nothing.
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  Speaker 2: So like Halliburton hit two shots at beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: fourth court and people were like, okay, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, here we go. Game start and game start. It
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  Speaker 1: never really did start.
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  Speaker 2: But Shay was so great today and that decision making,
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  Speaker 2: that playmaking, all of that doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: If Dubb Wiggs Caruso.
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  Speaker 2: The chat minutes that he gave, that little run that
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  Speaker 2: he gave them, none of that matters. If those dudes
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  Speaker 2: don't show up today, and boyd it they show up.
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  Speaker 2: There were multiple times in this game I think I
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  Speaker 2: tweeted this where Wiggins had a finish, I said Joe
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  Speaker 2: had a finish, and I think Caruso's finished didn't count.
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  Speaker 2: But so many finishes that made me go like that
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  Speaker 2: was that was nasty. The Isaiah Joe finished like he
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  Speaker 2: got it through like this much room, and just that's
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  Speaker 2: not who gus that Joe is. I expected from Wiggas
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  Speaker 2: because he saved basketball, but Isaiah and Joe with the
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  Speaker 2: rapper went, oh, that was so nasty. I was not
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  Speaker 2: one of those people that was super critical of Mark
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  Speaker 2: Dayton all based on him changing the starting lineup. I
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  Speaker 2: did feel like it was a little weird, but I
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  Speaker 2: didn't think that they lost Game one because Cason Wallace
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  Speaker 2: started instead of Isaiah Herdenstein. I was critical about them
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  Speaker 2: not playing that double big lineup at all, and with
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  Speaker 2: three minutes and fifty seconds left in his game, the
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  Speaker 2: double big lineup did see some minutes. They played about
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  Speaker 2: four and a half minutes together. They were a plus
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  Speaker 2: four in those minutes, so maybe not the biggest impact,
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  Speaker 2: but it was cool to see because one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite things OKC does is that four or five a
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  Speaker 2: love that you see Check.
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  Speaker 1: Throwing up to Isaiah Hartenstein.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I was reading something between because we
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  Speaker 2: again so much time between these games, damn it.
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  Speaker 1: I was reading an article on substack and they were
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  Speaker 1: talking about.
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  Speaker 2: How the assists rate goes up with Isaiah Hartenstein on
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  Speaker 2: the court because Isaiah Hartenstein is just a playmaker at heart.
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  Speaker 2: Some of these Caruso buckets, it says, Isaiah Hartenstein finding
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  Speaker 2: him and so on and so far, and the assist
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  Speaker 2: ray goes up because Schatt is finding as At Hardenstein
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  Speaker 2: in the dunker spot. So it just ended up. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like the offense just flowed better. It does help
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  Speaker 2: that you hit how many threes they hit fourteen of
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  Speaker 2: their thirty six three, so shot about thirty nine percent
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  Speaker 2: from three. All of that does help for sure. So
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  Speaker 2: this was an amazing game. I thought Chat again, his
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  Speaker 2: final box was fifteen points, and a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: felt like it happened at one time. But I thought
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  Speaker 2: Chat was so good defensively, And pick and Roll covers
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  Speaker 2: today they're like, I can't wait to rewatch this. But
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  Speaker 2: in my notes, Tare's Halliburn was not. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be the real topic of conversation for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people. I'm gonna talk about it, obviously, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not one of the main things I'm hitting here. Tarry's
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  Speaker 2: even if he wanted to get around that corner, he
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  Speaker 2: just really couldn't because they were using in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of cases they were mixing up the coverages.
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  Speaker 1: But when Chat was up to the level, there was
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  Speaker 1: just not a lot you can really do.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Halliburn got some things going later in the game,
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  Speaker 2: and I think this could help them for game number
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  Speaker 2: three when it was Isaiah Hardenstein who's playing like a
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  Speaker 2: heavy drop and then Halliburn got i think like two
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  Speaker 2: floaters up in the fourth quarter because of that. But
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  Speaker 2: like when Chat was up up there, it was just
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  Speaker 2: not a lot you can do. And they played with.
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  Speaker 1: The same level of defensive intensity.
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  Speaker 2: Now they didn't cause twenty whatever turnovers like they did
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  Speaker 2: in Gain noub one, but they played this level of
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  Speaker 2: intensity that this pacer team that is of such a
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  Speaker 2: fast paced team and a no turn the ball over
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  Speaker 2: a team again if you get rid of Gain of one,
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  Speaker 2: had multiple times in this game where they just straight
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  Speaker 2: up ended up like three seconds up on the shot
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  Speaker 2: clock before they got a shot up, I mean, or
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  Speaker 2: it just got a straight up shot clock valation. That's
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  Speaker 2: not Pacers basketball, that's that's OKAC basketball. And I thought that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's like the tug and pool of this series.
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  Speaker 2: In order for the Pacers to continue to win like
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  Speaker 2: they did in Gain of one, they have to get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of shots up and a lot of those
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  Speaker 2: have to be three. So they took forty threes, they
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  Speaker 2: made fourteen of them, was about league average. But if
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  Speaker 2: they want to continue to win in these games in
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  Speaker 2: the series, they cannot let the OKC thunder match their
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  Speaker 2: three point production.
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  Speaker 1: And in this game, Oka See match that.
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  Speaker 2: And on top of that, again they caused fifteen turnovers
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  Speaker 2: and they did have Shave get into his mid range
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  Speaker 2: and get into the basketting them getting to the free
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  Speaker 2: throw line and everything like that. So again a great
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  Speaker 2: Okay see game, a really great Okay see game. We
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  Speaker 2: can talk to him Halliburton. Halliburton's final stat line is
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  Speaker 2: from the seventeen six and three. Most of those points
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  Speaker 2: happened in the fourth quarter. I mean, it happened in
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  Speaker 2: the blur in the fourth but a lot of those
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  Speaker 2: happened in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm I'm hard presson to.
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  Speaker 2: Shot like again, he is one of the most confusing
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  Speaker 2: great players we have, or maybe I've ever had, because
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  Speaker 2: you get performances like this, or you get you know,
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  Speaker 2: even like last game performance he hit the big shot,
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  Speaker 2: the last game performance where you know, you compare him
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  Speaker 2: to other stars girls basketball, You're like, thirteen shots not
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  Speaker 2: gonna get it done. Fourteen points is not gonna get
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  Speaker 2: it done. I'm starting to think that there are times
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  Speaker 2: in his game where I want him to not just
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  Speaker 2: play off the ball, but be involved off the ball.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta rewatch this game.
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  Speaker 2: But what I notice is in that fourth quarter when
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  Speaker 2: he did end up scoring, how.
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  Speaker 1: Many points did he finish in the fourth court? Let
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  Speaker 1: me see if I got these stats right here.
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  Speaker 2: He scored twelve of his seventeen points in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 2: five or six in the field. Yeah, two more shots Haliburn.
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  Speaker 2: Majority of those shots except for I think maybe one.
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  Speaker 2: He had five shots. I think one of those were
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  Speaker 2: created by him doing picker row. He shot a thirty
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  Speaker 2: one foot three pointer. But some of those other buckets
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  Speaker 2: was him playing off the ball but being involved in
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  Speaker 2: the action. And we saw him play off the ball
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  Speaker 2: a ton in game number one. If you look at
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  Speaker 2: his usage right throughout the season. You know, three of
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  Speaker 2: the top or the bottom five uses race that he's
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  Speaker 2: had in these these games so far where against Okay,
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  Speaker 2: see two of them in the record season and one
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  Speaker 2: of them in game number one. So they played him
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  Speaker 2: off the ball a lot, and that's how you get
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  Speaker 2: nim hard step back three on say, which is a
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  Speaker 2: great moment and everything. But also when he's been playing
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  Speaker 2: off the ball, he hasn't been involved in many of
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  Speaker 2: the actions. And we talked about the one shot that
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  Speaker 2: mals Turner hit in game Numble one and the one
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  Speaker 2: that hit the damn backboard is skined in. We talked
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  Speaker 2: about him hit that shot and that was Halliburn within
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  Speaker 2: the offense set in the screen and everything. So I
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  Speaker 2: would hope that maybe they look at this, it's like man,
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  Speaker 2: and the way we get Halliburn going is to get
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  Speaker 2: him off the ball first, to create baskets for him
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  Speaker 2: that way as a secondary guy. Because the dunk that
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  Speaker 2: he ended up hitting was a sideline out of bounds
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  Speaker 2: play where they set a screen on chat and let
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  Speaker 2: let Halliburd get to the baskets like that is an
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  Speaker 2: action that we just don't get to see him run often.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of him as they pick a roll
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  Speaker 2: ball handeler, and you know, if he does get around
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  Speaker 2: the corner, he's kicking out to the corner and generating
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  Speaker 2: hockey assists or so on and so forth. But if
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  Speaker 2: you want to see him become the creator for himself,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it is him playing off the ball just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more and being involved in those actions just
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more. Another thing I have in my
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  Speaker 2: notes the now Haliburton minutes in the first quarter terrible,
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely terrible in the first quarter and beginning the
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  Speaker 2: second quarter. But one thing that the OKC thunder did
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  Speaker 2: amazing and game number two compared to Gay number one,
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  Speaker 2: is when they did concede the switch to Pascal s Yakam,
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  Speaker 2: they did not let that man touch that ball in
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  Speaker 2: the pain. They did not let him so much so
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  Speaker 2: that like I don't remember, was it Halliburton knows miked up?
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  Speaker 2: I think it might've been Halliburn knows miked up. He's talking.
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  Speaker 2: He's talking in the passcal like keep sealing and keep sealing,
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  Speaker 2: We gonna get you the ball. They never got him
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  Speaker 2: the ball, whether it be Caseing or Caruso or doored
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  Speaker 2: or dub or even shape. They were just preventing that
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  Speaker 2: from happening because those were easy buckets for the Pacers
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  Speaker 2: and gain them one. I got to rewatch his three
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  Speaker 2: Mayfield goals. I think two of them was off the
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  Speaker 2: bounce from Pascal. I don't remember his last one, so
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  Speaker 2: maybe that last one might have been a post touch,
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  Speaker 2: an entry pass. Post touch just didn't happen. At some
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  Speaker 2: point they got to the point where they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: force it because like he's working hard, he's working so
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  Speaker 2: hard to get the switch, like, let's reward him.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember during.
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  Speaker 2: The Denver Nuggets series, I tweeted, after you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think it might have been gaining number seven when they
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  Speaker 2: turned the ball over a ton, just trying to get
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  Speaker 2: Yolkic to damn ball. I tweeted, practice your entry passes, kids,
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not. I think okay See just does an
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  Speaker 2: amazing job of preventing you from getting a really good
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  Speaker 2: entry pass when they want you to. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was cool to see the Pacers go a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of zone in this game.
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  Speaker 1: It might have been for two possessions, but this is a.
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  Speaker 2: Team that ran three percent of zone the entire season
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  Speaker 2: before the spot and I guess two possessives.
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  Speaker 1: In this game.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe less than three percent, but it's not a thing
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  Speaker 2: that they bring out very often. Not only did they
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  Speaker 2: bring out their zone, they brought up the zone where
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  Speaker 2: Halliburton is one of the bottoms instead at the top
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  Speaker 2: at the head of the snake.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: have anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I have anything else of
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  Speaker 2: merit other than them putting the day of trophy on
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  Speaker 2: the court, but not the trophy we want. Just h
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  Speaker 2: I guess two trophies to very this big trophies on
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  Speaker 2: the court, and they were solo quality at least that's
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  Speaker 2: what it looked like on the broadcast.
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  Speaker 1: It was. It was tough. It was tough. They know
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  Speaker 1: we want.
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  Speaker 2: They show that they could do it digitally, so why
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  Speaker 2: not give us the big ass one digitally?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Am I trivin? Maybe I'm triving?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's all I got for now. I'ma I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna eat some food and.
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  Speaker 2: Rewatch this game, because three days in between games sucks,
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  Speaker 2: especially after a dud of a game, because after game one,
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  Speaker 2: three days in between you now are watching film like, ooh,
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  Speaker 2: what did the paces do differently in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: There's not really much to rewatch other than like trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out what can the paces do better in
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  Speaker 2: game three to make game three more competitive, of what
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  Speaker 2: can okay see replicate from game two? But it's not
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  Speaker 2: ton Oh, we did get a bang call in the
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  Speaker 2: first quarter because Mike Breen is chronically online, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: and saw everybody upset that he didn't do a bang
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  Speaker 2: on the.
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  Speaker 1: Halliburton shot, so that was fun. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: They also put Halliburton in so many guard guard screens today,
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  Speaker 2: made him work off on the fence side of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Made that man work. So yeah, that's it.