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The Byways of Bigfoot - On the Hunt with Linda Eastburn · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: H B.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hey everybody, it's the Crypton Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
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  Speaker 2: See you guys so much for being here tonight. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: to the show, y'all. I have had quite the past
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  Speaker 2: couple of days. Ever since I left you guys on
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  Speaker 2: Thursday night, I've been out in the field with my team.
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  Speaker 2: I've been out doing some big footing and some cryptid
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  Speaker 2: field research and man, it was so hot and it
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  Speaker 2: was awesome. We had a great time. I'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: a little bit tonight. I did have a great time, okay,
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  Speaker 2: And we did some interesting experiments and stuff out there
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  Speaker 2: while I was there, and I can't wait to get back.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out in the woods all the time, as you
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  Speaker 2: guys know. And tonight we have someone here in the
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  Speaker 2: studio who I have Actually I was interviewed by her
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  Speaker 2: before and tonight I'm interviewing Miss Linda Eastbourne, okay, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about her film documentaries on Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: get to our show and let's bring Linda up. Okay. So,
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  Speaker 2: Linda Eastburn is the creator of the Linda Eastburn Channel
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube, where she interviews bigfoot, UFO and paranormal experience
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  Speaker 2: her She is also the author of Threshold to Encounters,
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  Speaker 2: a captivating book that delves into the world of Bigfoot, aliens,
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  Speaker 2: and the paranormal. Through real life stories and her own experiences.
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  Speaker 2: Linda explores potential connections between these fascinating events. And let's
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  Speaker 2: welcome to the show tonight, Miss Linda Eastbourn.
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  Speaker 1: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hey Linda, thank you so much for being here tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. It's fun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course, we were just talking right before the
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  Speaker 2: show went live tonight, and I was just I think
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  Speaker 2: that we really were really connecting on some of this
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  Speaker 2: stuff because we have more in common. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: figured we have a lot in common Okay, just from
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot alone, but you've written more than just one book,
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  Speaker 2: and I was noticing that you are into even like
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  Speaker 2: intuition and the psychic aspect of life. Okay, everybody's psychic,
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  Speaker 2: but I was super super impressed by that because that's
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  Speaker 2: what my focus is with my bigfoot research. Actually, so
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  Speaker 2: welcome to the show, and congratulations on a new book
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  Speaker 2: that just came out as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that covers a lot of territory. It goes all
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  Speaker 1: the way back to nineteen ninety when I started doing
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  Speaker 1: UFO research, and those were the beginning points of understanding
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  Speaker 1: encounters that people were having with aliens, and that brought
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  Speaker 1: me all the way up to the Bigfoot encounters that
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  Speaker 1: are also in the book. So yeah, it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of territory.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I always say that all roads lead back to ET.
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  Speaker 2: That's something that the head of one of my team
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  Speaker 2: always told us, and I believe it. I do believe
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  Speaker 2: that bigfoots and ets are connected somehow. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: know exactly how. We have a lot of strange happenings
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  Speaker 2: in the field. I just came home from the field
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  Speaker 2: tonight and we were actually out there last night. We
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  Speaker 2: spent the whole night investigating an old cemetery out in
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  Speaker 2: the field, and we took a long height and so
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  Speaker 2: there's an aspect of the paranormal. Okay, there's also the
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  Speaker 2: bigfoots because bigfoots are often seen and reported around cemeteries.
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  Speaker 2: And also we had UFO stuff as well. We always
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  Speaker 2: have stuff happening in the center.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I agree, I did. I haven't heard
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  Speaker 1: that bigfoot was connected to to cemeteries now dogmen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have heard that, but I think this is the
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  Speaker 1: first time I've heard bigfoot around cemeteries, so that's interesting too.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we had. We had a full conversation about that.
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  Speaker 2: We were whispering in the cemetery about that last night
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  Speaker 2: as we were looking through our fleers and our thermals
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  Speaker 2: and we were all having not all of us, but
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  Speaker 2: a couple of us were having We were seeing things
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  Speaker 2: that through our fleers that were like things were crawling
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  Speaker 2: around and stuff. But then we'd look again and it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there. It was just really odd. It was very supernatural,
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  Speaker 2: feeling a lot very odd out there, and but we
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  Speaker 2: weren't scared. Okay, I try not to be scared when
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  Speaker 2: I go out there and do this stuff. It's just
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  Speaker 2: interesting to me. And uh, and I would I would
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  Speaker 2: assumed that you've probably experienced a lot of the stuff yourself,
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  Speaker 2: and I would think that you would be a lot
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  Speaker 2: like me, is having isn't having a lot of experiences
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  Speaker 2: from a young age? Is that the case?
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  Speaker 1: No, Actually kind of the opposite. But I sort of
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  Speaker 1: started getting into this when I turned forty, and I
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  Speaker 1: really didn't have much of any kind of an experience
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  Speaker 1: of any sort. And it was the the UFO community
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  Speaker 1: kind of drew me into into understanding that these things existed,
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  Speaker 1: and I became just very involved with the research at
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  Speaker 1: that point in time. But I wasn't really psyche that
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  Speaker 1: this was all a learned process. It took me about
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  Speaker 1: six years to get into, you know, just really being
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  Speaker 1: able to connect with that energy force. So when I
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  Speaker 1: taught that, in which you know, I spent like thirty
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  Speaker 1: years teaching you know, intuitive skills, traveling across the country.
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  Speaker 1: But as I teach that, you know, I teach it
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  Speaker 1: from a little bit of a different point of view
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't have that as a natural part of
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  Speaker 1: who I was, and I didn't have those natural experiences,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't see ghost. I didn't. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see bigfoot, that's for sure. And I still haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen a bigfoot but or or a UFO. You know,
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  Speaker 1: those things just weren't part of my world. But when
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  Speaker 1: I turned forty, something some switch turned on. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it was, some switch turned up, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of delved deep into into
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  Speaker 1: that field. So from that point it was more being
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  Speaker 1: a researcher. You know, I did a lot of hypnotic
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  Speaker 1: regression with people who had thought they had been abducted
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  Speaker 1: by aliens and had a lot of viewaful contact, So
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  Speaker 1: that kind of was an interesting field. But also then
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  Speaker 1: I was teaching hypnosis and I was I met so
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  Speaker 1: many interesting characters during that period of time. And during
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  Speaker 1: that time, you know, it was also a time of
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  Speaker 1: being highly I was under high surveillance. I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: my phone was bugged, and all kinds of strange things
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  Speaker 1: were happening, and I couldn't really understand why, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I certainly wasn't any kind of a you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't coming across things that were new or different or
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  Speaker 1: you know, or anything like that. But for some reason
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  Speaker 1: I got on this radar that you know that that
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  Speaker 1: I don't know something was going on, but my phone
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  Speaker 1: was bugged.
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  Speaker 2: And then I asked, you'd fit right in with a
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't interrupt. You'd fit right in with
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  Speaker 2: my team. I'm just saying, yeah, for sure. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Well we Well I'm gonna I'm gonna bring you to
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  Speaker 2: come to Georgia. Okay, come to Georgia. I will take
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  Speaker 2: you bigfooting and uh. And I've I've only taken maybe
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  Speaker 2: one or two people to a couple of my spots
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  Speaker 2: and they never disappoint with bigfoot activity. Okay, So you
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  Speaker 2: want to have a you want to see bigfoot, come
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  Speaker 2: over hang out with us in Georgia. Okay, we have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of bigfoots out here. I'm just saying, I
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  Speaker 2: can't guarantee it, but we can. There's the possibility, is there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a high probability.
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  Speaker 1: Of having one.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. But that's that's amazing. Okay, So you're you're into
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  Speaker 2: the the hypnotic regressions of people who had had experiences
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  Speaker 2: with ets. That's something else that we've actually done on
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  Speaker 2: our teams. A lot of us have had while we
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  Speaker 2: were actually doing bigfoot research have had et experiences, and
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  Speaker 2: several of us not well, I have done one, red
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  Speaker 2: I've done one, but a lot of the people on
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  Speaker 2: the team are currently getting them right now, actually because
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  Speaker 2: we have so many experiences that we just can't explain,
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  Speaker 2: like missing time and things like that when we're out
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  Speaker 2: in the field. And I'm assuming is that something that
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  Speaker 2: you've encountered with people, oh those.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, both with bigfoot people as well as people
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  Speaker 1: who have UFO contact. I mean missing time. There's something
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  Speaker 1: about this, and I'm sure that you've noticed it too.
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  Speaker 1: There is something about this phenomena, whether it be those
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  Speaker 1: bigfoot UFOs, whatever the entity might be, that seems to
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  Speaker 1: wrap itself around a time warp of some sort, like
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  Speaker 1: almost like they might be time travelers or they might
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  Speaker 1: be dimensional time travelers something. But it's like they're here,
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  Speaker 1: they're gone. It seems like past, the present, future, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem to matter. It's like it all kind of
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  Speaker 1: intertwines in a different sort of time reality than what
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  Speaker 1: we generally think of as you know, our normal linear
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  Speaker 1: kid of time. That's for sure, it does.
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  Speaker 2: We just had that conversation around the campfire today this morning,
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  Speaker 2: and I know it's a little hot to have a campfire,
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  Speaker 2: but and it wasn't lit this morning. But we were
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  Speaker 2: all sitting around and we had that conversation about time travel,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, there's a place where we were researching.
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  Speaker 2: One of my team is my team is. We're kind
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  Speaker 2: of focused on this place. We call it the meadow,
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  Speaker 2: the South Skinwalker Ranch. And one night I was hiking
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  Speaker 2: into the meadow and I heard from across the creek
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  Speaker 2: this like water sources. We're walking in. I heard a
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  Speaker 2: woman yell out time travel kind of loud, and the
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  Speaker 2: other two people that were with me didn't hear it.
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  Speaker 2: And then a couple of weeks later to a month later,
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  Speaker 2: I realized that was me. That was my voice. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it was it was and I get goosebumps every time
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  Speaker 2: I think about it. But we were we were talking
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  Speaker 2: about the experiences that we'd had out there, and uh
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  Speaker 2: and one of the and Christie, one of the girls,
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  Speaker 2: the ladies that was out there with this, she kind
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  Speaker 2: of took her hands in this thing. She said, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like time is like this, and then
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  Speaker 2: you know, it goes like this and then you go
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  Speaker 2: through We were just talking about a wrinkle in time. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about having wrinkles in time, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that that's what happens to us out there sometimes as
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  Speaker 2: far as potential time travel, and we look at portals
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. You know, we've actually documented a portal in
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  Speaker 2: the meadow and sent two people inside of it. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't know they were inside of it. What are the
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  Speaker 2: implications of all this? It's so wild. It's like we're
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  Speaker 2: living in this three D reality, but we have all
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  Speaker 2: of this fantastic stuff happening around us. Most people are
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  Speaker 2: not even aware of it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's true, and I have heard of
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  Speaker 1: that portal, and I think you talked about it when
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  Speaker 1: you came on my show as well. But it reminded
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  Speaker 1: me of another story I heard years ago of a
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  Speaker 1: woman who had ET contact and she didn't have this
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  Speaker 1: contact for you in their life. It was a long story,
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  Speaker 1: but suddenly her family was inundated with all of this
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  Speaker 1: ETY contact, UFO sightings and a lot of strange things
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  Speaker 1: are happening in her world suddenly, and one day, it
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  Speaker 1: was broad daylight, she's home alone. She decides to go
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  Speaker 1: over to her neighbor's house to borrow something or something.
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  Speaker 1: She's making her way back across the lawn and it's
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  Speaker 1: just a tree, beautiful lawn. There's quite a bit of
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  Speaker 1: space between the homes and she sees nothing but trees
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  Speaker 1: and grass and she's walking along and it's like she
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  Speaker 1: suddenly walks through a wall or something, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: she just steps into another reality and there's a UFO
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  Speaker 1: and there are little entities, beings, you know, running around
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  Speaker 1: in the yard, and she's like almost like paralyzed, and
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  Speaker 1: she has no emotional response to it whatsoever. She's just
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  Speaker 1: standing there observing. And then suddenly it clicks off and
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  Speaker 1: they're gone, and now she's emotional and now her motions
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  Speaker 1: come back, and she's terrified and you know, just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know what just happened, and you know, things like that.
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  Speaker 1: So that that kind of of issue with the box
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  Speaker 1: or the portal you know in the meadow kind of
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of that, you know, where you can walk
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  Speaker 1: through something a veil of some sort, and you walk
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  Speaker 1: through that. I talk about that in my book. You
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  Speaker 1: know that there is some kind of a reality that
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  Speaker 1: seems to move around and seems to be out of place,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even out of time. But could we be walking
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  Speaker 1: through time warps.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe, I mean, anything is possible at
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  Speaker 2: this point. I just go with the flow. And I
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  Speaker 2: love that you said that she observed it. There's no
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of panic, you know. And that's something
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  Speaker 2: that we talked about today as well, is like not
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  Speaker 2: labeling things, observing things that are around you. And I
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  Speaker 2: hate to say like accepting it, accepting that this is
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  Speaker 2: your reality. Now that sounds terrible because but you know,
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  Speaker 2: because when people have an experience with a bigfoot. I
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  Speaker 2: know you've you've interviewed so many people about their experiences
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  Speaker 2: and their encounters with bigfoot. It can change your life
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  Speaker 2: and it's very traumatic for a lot of people. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that that's wonderful that you see the almost
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  Speaker 2: like the psychological side of it in a way, and
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  Speaker 2: know that even even shows like your channel and all
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  Speaker 2: the shows that you do and even my channel, we're
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  Speaker 2: kind of like a network here to exchange stories for
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  Speaker 2: almost like a therapy.
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  Speaker 1: It is, you know, it's a place for people. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's very it's very much like a therapy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: people can tell their story in a safe zone. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not a controversial person, so I just
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  Speaker 1: let them tell their story. That's just a forum for that.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems like, you know, they need to get
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  Speaker 1: it out there. And then other people listen to them,
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  Speaker 1: and they too say, oh, I'm not alone in this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, these are real encounters, and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people really do have dramatic reactions to this. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they spend a lot lifetime trying to figure out, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, what the heck happened to them when they
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  Speaker 1: do see a bigfoot. And some of them, of course,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just go right back into it and go
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  Speaker 1: out there and try to find more bigfoot. But and
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  Speaker 1: then others, you know, I just don't want to go
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  Speaker 1: back in the woods. I mean, it's a different response,
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  Speaker 1: but it certainly it can be very traumatic and it
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  Speaker 1: can have a lifelong impact upon them.
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  Speaker 2: It can't it can. And Greg Ogeles I was just
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  Speaker 2: with him earlier today. He is in the chat what's up? Greg?
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  Speaker 2: He was with me out in the field. He comes
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  Speaker 2: out with our team and does research with this as well.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we've all had people tell us everybody
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  Speaker 2: that's on my team, you know, people when they find
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  Speaker 2: out that we are bigfoot researchers and I kept mind.
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  Speaker 2: I kept that a secret for ten years. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: tell anybody I was a bigfoot researcher. I didn't go
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  Speaker 2: public with that for a while. But once you do
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  Speaker 2: open up about it, I find that people really wanted
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  Speaker 2: to get their stories. Not that they just want to
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  Speaker 2: have people hear their stories, but they want some validation.
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody's just looking for validation, like, wow, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that happened to you. It happened to me that I'm
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  Speaker 2: not crazy exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, the very first interview I did was
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  Speaker 1: with Scott Nelson on the Sierra Sounds and it's called
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  Speaker 1: Bigfoot the Language, and I knew nothing about bigfoot. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I was just completely, you know, ignorant of bigfoot. So
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  Speaker 1: I put that out and all of a sudden, people
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  Speaker 1: were just, you know, watching that show. It just took off.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the reason was the very thing you said.
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  Speaker 1: I think it gave them some sense of validation, you
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  Speaker 1: know that there was something genuine about this, and and
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  Speaker 1: I think that made a difference to them. You know
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  Speaker 1: that they there was something that they could really relate to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that was concrete.
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  Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And someone who I had become good
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  Speaker 2: friends with who I just loved to death, Eric Tesserman.
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  Speaker 2: He was on your film documentary that you made, which
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  Speaker 2: is fantastic. By the way out in the Ozarks by
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  Speaker 2: way a big.
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  Speaker 1: Foot, yeah, all along then Angua River.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, can we can we talk about that a
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: little bit because I just did a show on the
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Ozark Haller on Thursday night and we talked about a
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: lot of the different cryptis of the Ozarks and just
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: the land and the national parks out there. But Eric,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you filnd on Eric's personal private property out there or
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: he actually.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, part of it was on his property and
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: part of it was in other areas of the Niangua River.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we did, and we found a trackway there.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, we found all kinds of evidence on his
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: property as well as these other areas along the river.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was it was It was a good time.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the Ozarks has been full of bigfoot stories forever.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I mean we have called Booger County, you know, in
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: this part of the woods. Booger is what they call bigfoot,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and that goes way back, I mean way way way back.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And then there was a bigfoot they I think This
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: was in the eighteen hundreds and it was labeled blue
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Man because when the sun would shine on his coat
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of fur or hair, it looked blue. It was so
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: black it had a blue shine to it. And that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: was seen kind of not really in the Boothill, but
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: between where I live in the south Central and the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Boothill of Missouri. You know, that was a real popular
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: thing too. But lots and lots of bigfoot encounters. You know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Ron Bowls saw one just not far from where I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: live actually, as well as another person that was in
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: byways of bigfoot Ian Garrison, he saw one about the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: same time Ron bolsaw one along a river. Both of
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: them saw a bigfoot along the river. So there's a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: lot of bigfoot sightings in this neck of the woods.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I also did a show called Bigfoot the Limits that
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: was down in Foresight, Missouri, and they had some documentation
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that was unreal. That one is just they just had
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: all kinds of things. They had an image that certainly
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't a bigfoot, but it was some kind of a
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: creature that might have been an ozark caller. So yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I think they're around.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, Well, Eric just contacted me yesterday I was
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: actually in my vehicle, I was headed to the woods
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: when he contacted me, and he said that he got
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: a report which he believes might be the Ozark Calor
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and so hopefully I messaged him with him tonight. Hopefully
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to him tomorrow and uh and get
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: that report because this these cryptids fascinate me out there,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure why there's so many. There's such
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: a plethora of cryptids out there in Missouri, and dog
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Man a werewolf reports as well. You know, my focus
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: is usually on Bigfoot, but I just went on a
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: dog man hunt recently, and once you get into the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: bigfoot field research, you realize that you're just kind of
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: out there looking for whatever's out there. At that point,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: there's so much out there. So Cosmic Joe Chronicles, thank
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you for that supersticker. I appreciate that. So let me
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: let me read this real quick. Time is an endless loop,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: which is not which does have a beginning and end.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Just to start again, I changed my timeline so I
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: still exist. Very nice, very nice, yes, and time is
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: but an illusion as well, right, Linda, it seems to
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: be yes, it does, it does. But back to Missouri. Okay,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: so so many kryptism Missouri. Now you you on on
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot, the byways a Bigfoot. You guys were really
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: focused on that river that went through Missouri there, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I believe that there's just a lot of resources there.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Do you think that may be why the bigfoots are
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: so plentiful out there?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's really hard to say for sure. Now,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you know, the Naigua River was named by the O
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: s h tribe, so it has a lot of history
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of native that that was a thoroughfare for them. You know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: they had villages all along that river. But also there
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: are these numerous reports of UFO craft and orbs all
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: along that river as well. And since we made that film,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: there have been other bigfoot reports come in from that
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: area that of sidings along on that river as well.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: About three more sidings have been filmed. So, yeah, we
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: found footprints, we found unusual trees that were broken down
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: on area's place, we found the trackway, some other something.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Ron Balls noticed there was a big BlackBerry area that
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: these BlackBerry bushes were all laid down like something had
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I mean it was a huge area too, and just
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: a short distance from there, they were laid down the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: opposite direction, but that could have been watered the other way.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: This way they were like uphill, so it could not
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: have been water. So that was kind of an interesting
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: thing too. But yeah, lots of food resource. There's just
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: there's that river kind of runs along, you know, some
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: deep valleys and lots of cliffs and things like that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: as well. And I remote viewed since the film, I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: remote viewed other areas along that river that Bigfoot mic being.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Now we haven't gone up there to find it yet,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: but I saw an area that was between two two
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: very you know, large steep hills, and it was kind
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of a gully, you know, and really grown up, but
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: it was a dead in gravel road and there was
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a goat farm at the end of that road. Now
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: if I can find that wait, maybe searching for Bigfoot again.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Oh wow. Okay, so this is wild because a while
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: back I was contacted by and I'm going to make
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: him anonymous, anonymous person who was actually a good friend
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: of mine now but at the time I didn't know
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: this person, but he watched my shows and and he
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: he had at some point somehow I ended up doing
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: a remote viewing target for him and it involved his
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: friend's property, and uh, and I didn't know anything about it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I was just given the coordinates of this property and
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I was seeing it. Turns out there was a lot
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: of bigfoot activity. There's something going on that was affecting
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: his goats. Okay, his goats and U and I And
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: when I was remote viewing it, I was seeing them.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I thought it was like a bunch of dogs or something.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell. They were just small animals the size
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: of a goat, but I just interpreted them as potentially
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: being dogs. But the bigfoots were one hundred percent. They
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: were sticking around that property. Because of the animals that
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: were there, I can't say. I don't know if they
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: took any of his goats, but they were there, and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: they would take his goats, and so I think that
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: he was actually worried about his goats being taken by
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the bigfoot. So they are attracted at things like that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: That's a food source for them.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: It is, you know, I didn't see them actually, you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: taking their goats, but because I felt like that, there
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: was plenty of deer and such, you know in that area.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Also with the river, there's lots and lots of fish,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: especially where I saw this particular area. It's it's really
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: close to a fish fish hatchery actually, so there's a
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: lot of fish that are released out into the water
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: around there. So lots of fish.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Oh wow. That reminds me of the Port Lock, Alaska
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: case where all the the town had to evacuate because
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: people were going missing. And it turns out, I believe
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: those were Bigfoots that were attacking people because they had
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: come in and they had opened that fishery there, that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: cannery is what they called it, and so they were
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: depleting the area of the resources and the bigfoots got mad.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I have heard many a story that when
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: their food source dries up, they can become a little
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: bit contrary.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: They get a little bit mad. They do they do well.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: What about in Missouri when you guys were doing that documentary,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I think you mentioned caves and that's something that I've
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: been looking into a lot with the cave systems of
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: the United States, and I'm sure with other people that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: you've interviewed as well, they've probably mentioned this. If you
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: overlap the map of the Bigfoot sightings with the map
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: of the cave systems, they match up, and I have
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to wonder about that. Are bigfoots living in these caves
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: or traveling through them?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: You think he's very likely, you know, And I know
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: when we were filming the show, Eric mentioned that that
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: he felt like that there were so many caves, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: misso he's a cave state, so you know, there's lots
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: of lots of room for them to be to be
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: moving around. But yeah, I think they could go from
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: state to state even you know, the cave systems are
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: elaborate around here, many many caves.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Well I gotta I gotta give
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: a shout out to Terry Wendell. You interviewed him before,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and yeah, he's with rock Hill Bigfoot out of South Carolina.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: He's actually one of my teammates too. He goes out
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: in Bigfoots with us and a very good friend of
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: mine and we go way back. He's he's got some
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: interesting stories. By the way, he got poked in his
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: tent one night with the finger of a big foot. Okay,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: so so that's why I actually after that happened to him,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: he told me that actually was before he told me
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: that I had already gotten smart to it, and I
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: was sleeping in a tent back then, a big tent,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and I would put my cot in the very center
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: of that so nothing could poke me. Okay, you got
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: to worry about worry about stuff like that when we're
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: out there doing bigfoot research. So thanks to Terry. Terry
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: validated my fear with that. But but yeah, really really
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: cool people that you've interviewed, including and also MK Davis,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: who I just met recently. I met him at the
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: East Alabama town Hall and got to see his I mean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: he gave the most amazing, amazing presentation on Patty the
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Patterson Gimblin film. How did how did you feel about
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that interview and that information that he gave you? I saw,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I saw the interview that you guys did.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of surprising to me because I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: hadn't heard that before. And so, and you know what,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I got warned by a lot of people before I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: put that up, and they said, don't do it. Don't
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: do it, because I guess there's a lot of controversy
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: about his views and opinions on that about that film,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: and you know, he gave enough information. A lot of
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: people said it was more information that they have even
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: ever heard him give on this subject. And one person
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: even asking is like, how you know, why did you
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You've been on my show many times, and why did
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you give her all that information? He is, I don't know.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I just kept talking, you know, and I just let him, so,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you know, he just shared a lot. I was kind
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: of shocked by it, but honestly, I did believe him.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I believe that that he had. I didn't think that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: he was making it up. And a lot of people
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: were telling me they believed he was making that up.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: But I don't believe that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well I don't believe he was just making
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: that up. I was I saw him live with his
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: presentation and we watched all the videos. He this is
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: something that I already someone had given me. Patty is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a remote viewing target, a blind target last year and
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the first thing that happened. So for people who aren't familiar,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: everybody who watches my channel for the most part, you
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: probably have seen my show on that I was given
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: a blind remote viewing target and I was being shot
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: at during that target. And so that is what Linda's
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: referring to you guys with what M K. Davis. His
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: theory is that she was being hunted basically when they
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: got that film, and and I was actually warned as
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: well to not talk about that, but I did it
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: anyways because I knew that I was going to get
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: some backlash over that. But at this point, it's like, well,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm hearing it for the truth and for
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: disclosure on things, and if it if it's if it's
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: dark and it sucks, I'm you know, we're we're still
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: putting it out there, but we're putting it out in
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: a loving way. Okay, we're putting out in a loving
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: way and letting everyone you know, in my from my
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: side of it, it's remote viewing data I had not
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: known about. I had not seen m K. Davis's presentation before,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: so I was going out there on a limb like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I can I think she was getting shot? Okay?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And I was actually happy and relieved that m K
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: had the validation for what I had remote.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Viewed, Like, yeah, I can totally understand that I have
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: not remote viewed any other things around Bigfoot, but certainly
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I think that you know that we can do you
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: do you ever remote view where you're going to find
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot before you go out.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Linda. Absolutely, that's part of why my team was trained
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: in it, because we were trained by the head of
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: my bigfoot team to do it, and so we we
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: not only do that before we go somewhere, but it's
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: like when we have an experience, or somebody on the
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: team has an experience, we're eventually tasked that as a
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: target by the head of our team sometimes and so
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: we're able to look into a lot of interesting things.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably why you find so much, you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: have some of the experiences, because you're already you're already
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: having the experience before you get there, because you know
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: what you're going to be seeing.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: That well, okay, you're giving my secrets away, Okay, I'm
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: just kidding. Yeah, it could be. But also we're very
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: psychically switched on, and I think that makes a huge
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: difference when someone is in tune or attuned with the paranori.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: It's really paranormal. It's really a frequency out there. You
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: shine like a beacon of light out there to all
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the critters and the bigfoots and whatever's out there. So
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I think that that just it gets you more in
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: tune with your environment. I guess you could say.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And also you know, there is this there is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: this idea that when you're remote viewing, if you're remote
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: being the future, you actually have an impact on what
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: happens in the future.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yes, absolutely, so we're Yeah, I mean
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I've been tasked with so many different targets. Like actually,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the head of one of my other teams I'm on,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I'm on three teams actually kind of four now, okay,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: research teams, so I'm out in the field a lot.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But the head of one of my teams, out of
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: the Meadow Project team, he just tasked me with like
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: four or five six targets. He did, he tasked through those.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I guess he's writing another book or somebody. So I
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: was tasked with some more targets of things. It turns
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: out it's things that actually happened to our team out
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: in the field, okay, and it involves stuff that's not bigfoot.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was bigfoot at all. I think
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: it was stuff that involves orbs, like you had mentioned orbs,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: and like the portal incident kind of things, and so
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and this has been I mean, this was this has
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: been like eight years since that happened. A lot of
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: these events have happened. It's been a long time, but
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: now we're able to go back, and he tasked me
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: with these targets. Now we're able to kind of understand
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: now eight years later, and I don't know why we
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: didn't do this sooner, I guess, but eight years later
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: with some of the things that we always questioned and
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: never even really thought to look into, little minute things,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, like not not even like the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: big stuff that we really have doated over over the years.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It's like little things, because those little things make all
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the difference too, you know, stuff that like the missing time.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: A lot of people don't pay attention to missing time
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: because they think that they just misplaced where they were,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: they just had memory loss or whatever. Our brains are
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: always trying to rationalize supernatural events.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: So, but there's usually something more to it. Okay, there's
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: usually something more to it. And I don't know, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: think that those are the We need to pay attention
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: to the little things more than just like the big events.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying with that.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: But a lot of synchronicities and things that I mean,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: my life has just been filled with synchronicities, you know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: right time, right place, but just knowing knowing things and
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you know that was going to happen in the future,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: but but just things coming together. And one of my
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: specialties is like, if I have a question about something
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how to find an answer for it,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It's like if I just sit back and wake and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: within a day or two, it's going to pop up
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: on a TV show where somebody will call with an answer.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: You know. It's it's kind of like just put it
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: out there and it comes back, so like a boomerang.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Look for synchronicities. Okay, look for synchronicities, look for signs,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: and I mean, how many times have I looked to
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the clock? How about you?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Two?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And how many times we look to the clock and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: it's eleven eleven? Okay? Here five five five two two
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: two something like that. Usually I take those as messages. Okay,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I take those messages. I'll even look up angel numbers
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: sometimes just to see like, well what does that mean?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Because I keep seeing too to two every day.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Can help lead us into our our path. You know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: it doesn't even have to do with cryptids. It could
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: just be our path like our spiritual path that we're on.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Right and it's like I questioned, you know, okay, why
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: is Bigfoot you know, coming into my world? And then
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of my channel took off with bigfoots.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: So I just did a bunch of bigfoot stuff. But
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: then it kind of circled right back around to, you know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: years ago when I was doing UFO stuff, because you know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: that subject just kept popping up in my interviews. So
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: now I'm just right back in the throes of the
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: whole UFO community, so that I kind of moved away
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: from a bit, you know, in those years in between.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Linda, You're gonna love this. So that so the head
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: of one of my teams, Trey Hudson, he and I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: are we're on the same teams, all the teams we're
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: on together. And I am more of the cryptid person,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: so like I do shows and I have my own
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: YouTube channel here where I talk about Bigfoot and cryptis mostly,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: but he is the UFO guy. But we're on the
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: same team.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: So because it's all connected, it's all connected, and we
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: like to point that out sometimes because we're not just
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: focused on Bigfoot. We're so open to whatever's out there
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: in general, and it just so happens that, I mean,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: we have just as much UFO activity as we have
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: bigfoot activity.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and so many people do. I mean, it
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: just it's like they have one, they sometimes have the other.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or the other other other cryptids and stuff too.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like today, we were actually doing meditative guided
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: meditations out there, Okay, because we do like these weird
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: experiments and stuff, but we actually did like a guided
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: meditation today on you know, visualizing and focus, focusing on
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: like you kind of like the energy of what's in
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the meadow and stuff like places where we're at. And
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: even the burliest of the burly guys on my team. Okay,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Greg's in here too. Greg was there that claimed to
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: like not be psychic hardly at all. They were freaking
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: out because we were all having the same visions and
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: things in our meditation. It's like we had it. It
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: was like the collective consciousness or we were just all
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: tuned in. We're all in that same frequency. So we
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: we do utilize the psychic the psy aspect to the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: research when we're out there too.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember when I first started doing hypnosis, I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: did a lot of regressions, and some of those were
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: past life regressions. And I remember this one woman. She
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: was having a really hard time getting into anything. So
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: we kind of did it together, and we, you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: we did the trunk exercise where you just pull out
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: things from the past and out of the trunk. And
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: it was funny because when we came out, I did
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: it with her and we didn't know what each other
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: got pulled out of that trunk. And I remember I
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: had pulled out this plum colored dress and I knew
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: it was my dress and I was going to wear
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: it to some kind of a ball or something. She
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: started talking about the thing she pulled out the trunk,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and she said, I pulled out this dress, but I
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: knew it wasn't mine, and it was a plum color,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and I go, yeah, it's not yours, that's mine dress.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: You know. But that was the experience we shared, and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: you know, without talking to one another, we both experienced
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: pulling a plumb dress out of the trunk. She knew
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: it wasn't hers, and I knew it was mine. So,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you know, we talked to one another. I think in
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: those inner level states, it knows it's being you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a really good avenue to initiate that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean just people understanding how psychic they are.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Everybody and the power that our minds hold. I think
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: it's important for everybody and the time that we are
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: living in today. We were living in such a crazy
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: world right now. To be psychically switched on is so important,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and to understand that we do have a connection too
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: between all of us. And I saw that today we
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: were doing that guided meditation, and I was the first
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: person to describe what I had experienced when we came
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: out of our meditation and I was talking about a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: wormhole and the colors and seeing people who had passed
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: on that were on our team and stuff, and it
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: was wow because one of the guys got up and
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that he was standing over me,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: like in disbelief and gave me a high five basically,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and was completely confused as to like, how did I
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: know exactly what he had just seen because he hadn't
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: told us by he had the exact same experience that
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I did, So we had that strange little connection there,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: and some of the other people out there had the
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: same visions too, So I like exploring the power of
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: our minds, I guess, And I don't know. I just
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: think that's important.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been something I've done, you know, since
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: since I first started diagnosis in abouteen eighty, nineteen eighty nine,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, I think I started in that field. And
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: the exploration is is unending. I mean, it's just there's
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so much and they're coming around with so many things now.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Of course, technology is able to project so much stuff.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I mean I was talking to someone the other day
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: that was talking about, you know, since even since nineteen
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: sixty they've had technology that can you know, communicate telepathically,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: like with a person's mind. That's just unreal.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know. And we were also talking about
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the dangers today of like how do how does Facebook
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: know that I was just thinking about, you know, a
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: chick fil ace much or something, you know, so how
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: are they getting these ads? Like it's just it's just uncanny,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: it's weird. Yeah, I guess that's another rabbit hole to
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: go down. Okay, so we won't go there tonight, because
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: we were to talk about we talk about some really
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: cool paranormal stuff and in your research and how many
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: people have you interviewed about Bigfoot. It's been a lot.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I have over I think I have around three fifty
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: years so interviews in that. I just started a year
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: and a half of those, so I've been busy putting
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: those up. So yeah, a lot. I got a quick
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: education about bigfoot from all of these people. They all
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: had unique individual experiences or they were researchers one of
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the two, but most of them had actually seen a bigfoot.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, just a large variety of a views and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: opinions and ideas. So I haven't completely made up my
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: mind what I think because I haven't seen one yet.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: But when we went out and made Byways Bigfoot the film,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I was really surprised that we got as much evidence
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: as we did. That was that was an interesting thing.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I really thought we just got there and do a
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: nature piece. You know, Eric had heard vocals on his property,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: but he really hadn't found any evidence on his property
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: until just recently when we filmed out there, and I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: think he hadn't really you know, looked for any footprints,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. I think he just had
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: heard the vocals on his play. So when we went out,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: we really really searched and looked and tried to find
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: something and eventually did so that was nice. Now I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: think he's having a lot more activity. Now you've probably
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: talked to him since I have, but he sent me
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: some information the other day that there was quite a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: bit more activity on his property. Now, we had put
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: some shiny things out there and containers that were difficult
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: to open. It would have been really difficult to open
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: without a large hand, you know, to be able to
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: turn unscrew the lid, and I think those were scattered
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: about and lid was off, and so yeah, there's something
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: was out there for sure.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. He did a YouTube video where he had
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: on his surgical gloves his rubber gloves and he was
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: out there collecting evidence. And I did talk to him
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: about it, so he was super excited. And I think
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's a blessing. I think it's amazing that
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: he's got bigfoots out there. He is so in tune
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: with nature and so respectful of nature as well and
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: whatever's out there. And I think that that is a
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: beautiful thing, because I mean, if I were a bigfoot,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I would want to live on somebody's I wouldn't say
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: somebody's property because in my mind, it'd be my property
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: if I lived there, if I was a Bigfoot. But
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: to have people like Eric to share a home with, okay,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: because Eric is so he's just really in tune with nature,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I guess, and very reverent and respectful towards them.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I remember when we were filming out there,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: at one point he got this really kind of uneasiness
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and he said, I just felt like there were too
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: many people that were in their home, you know, when
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: we were out in the woods. So we didn't spend
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of time, you know, we tried to just
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: you know, film, get as much filming as we could,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: but not in vain the space for too long a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: period of time.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a question for you. Have you seen
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: patterns with people's experiences with bigfoot? What are the patterns
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: that you're seeing with all the people that you've interviewed.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: What are some commonalities.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of them, I mean a lot of
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: them have have very similar experiences, and they seem to
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: divide into, you know, the people that seemed a little
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: bit more fearful of their experience. They they tend to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: kind of well, there's the group that doesn't ever go
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: back out in the woods because it was a very
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: frightening experience, you know. And usually those were situations where
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I think bigfoot was probably territorial at that time. Maybe
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: young ones were there or something like that. I don't know.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: But the ones that are really interesting that a lot
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: of the women I've interviewed tend to get a sense
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: that they're there, but they don't know for sure, and
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: so they just gently, gently, gently become familiar with with
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the bigfoot in the area, and eventually they'll come out
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and let them see them. You know. That's kind of
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: a very very slow process. But those are ones that
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: are more habitual on a property. You know, they're there
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: all the time, but no one's seen them, and they
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: just kind of trust they're there. Also, I've heard a
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: lot of people say that they get up feeling before
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: they ever see a bigfoot. They get a sense that
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: they should leave now, or they get a sense that
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you know that they're they're there and they're going to
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: interact with them in some capacity. Also, you know, just
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the phenomena of batteries running dead when they're around. That
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: happens if it's happened to you, but it's happened to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that I've interviewed also, just you know,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: they're out there the same areas where they're a big
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: foot through orbs you know that generally run through the
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: woods in that area as well. So those are all
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: patterns that I've noticed with people that I've interviewed.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I love that because I can check all those boxes
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: too with my experiences, and we always, i mean it's
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: almost always if we're having a bigfoot experience, there's orbs
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: somewhere in the environment, and they may not be right
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: there at the spot where we're having a big foot encounter,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: but they come into our camp site. They'll come into
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: our base camp and they'll float into our tents and
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: we have them on camera, like we set up cameras
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: around the place, or they'll follow us through the woods
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and they'll turn into like V shaped formations and stuff.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: It's a little eerie. Sometimes. I saw an orb one
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: day or one night. It looked like almost like the
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: moon or something.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: It was so bait.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: It was a huge one, and then it kind of
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it fell down very slowly. It just appeared and then
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it kind of drifted down slowly behind the tree line
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: like a flair gun had been shot or something. It
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: was just we see the weirdest things out there and
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: we just don't have an explanation for them exactly.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Have you had any animal mutilations in that area.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I have not been. I have not gotten a report
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: of them. No. Well, we we researched several places and
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: there have I'm sure there have been animal mutilations. One
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: of the places that we research is in Middle Georgia.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: It's called the troop Herd Corridor and I'm not sure
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: if you're familiar with that now if you're into alien
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: abduction research, that's a place of high levels of alien
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: abductions here in Georgia. There was an author I don't
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: know his name. I'm so sorry forgive me. I don't
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: know his name, but there was an author who did
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of research on alien abductions at the troop
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Herd Corridor and that's one of my places where we
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: actually have a high level of bigfoot activity as well
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: and all sorts of strange things. I have heard of
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: animal mut there, So maybe not so much as some
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: of the other places we researched, but at that area, yes,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: and it is near some army basis in Air Force
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: basis and stuff.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: There's an area about a ten mile radius that I'm
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: researching right now that has I mean, it has everything.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: It has has ghost activity, it has bigfoot, it has
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: animal mutilations and UFO craft orbs, all kinds of strange
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: light activity out there. There's there's also a wooded area
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that seems to have a lot of just really odd
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: pairinganormal things that happen, a lot of missing stuff. You know,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: we'll just end up missing, but but it's just and
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: also disembodied voices can be heard in certain areas. But
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: there's also a lot of black car surveillance out there,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: like you know, like there's for years, you know that
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: there's something they they're observing something, but I don't know
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: exactly what. They'll just come by, park in a certain area,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: stay awhile and you know, come back again another time
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and you know, slowly drive down roads and you know.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly what that's about, but it
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: seems as if there's a surveillance that's happening in that
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: area too.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: So do you believe that our government or some sort
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: of agency is aware of bigfoots?
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think they're aware of all of this.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is, this isn't This is
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: a difficult Even if you're in it and believe in
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: it and are experiencing it, it's still a very difficult
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: reality for people to overlay to. You know, their their
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: normal go to work, you know, come home, have dinner,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you know, go to church on Sunday, go to school,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: you know, through the week with the kids. I mean,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: that's that's kind of a normal life. And I think
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: this overlaid around that becomes very much difficult for a
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: lot of people to accept. So I think our government
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: knows about all of this. They probably know a lot
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: more than you and I even know about this. But
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's something that they can or
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: will or you know, I wouldn't say the word should,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: but I think for whatever reason, they don't want to
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: disrupt that status quo, and this definitely would if there
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: was a lot of talk about it. I think slowly,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: you know, if you talk to the scientist, if you
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: talk to the undercurrent within the government, you know, they
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: know they talk about it, you know some, but but
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: they can't go public as much as you know, like
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you and I can, because we're just cookie Bigfoot turns
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: out there looking for stuff, you know, so we can
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: talk about it. So I don't know I will ever
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: come forward, or if they do, I'm not sure we're
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: going to hear the whole story totally.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Now I'm the crazy Bigfoot lady over in my town. Okay,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: So I get it. I totally get it. And you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: on Thursday night, my friend Robbie and I talked about, uh,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: the Ozark Heller. We were talking about a I just
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: found out about a secret society out of it. I
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: don't know if it started in Missouri, but it's the
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: concatenated Order of the Who Who. That is the funniest thing.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: But it's really crazy because it's a secret society. It
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: was founded back in eighteen ninety two, I believe, I
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: think that. I mean, there were two presidents involved with it,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: and it had a funny name. But it had to
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: deal with our national parks and with the lumbering companies.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: And it's still in service today. And my question to
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Robbie was like, well, do you think of there's some
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: kind of secret society that deals with our national parks?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Do they know where all these missing people are going?
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know, that's kind of a loaded question
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: there to Robbie, and we kind of joked around about it.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of missing people in our country today,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: and a lot of them are out of the national parks,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: and some people ask me, do you think Bigfoot's taking
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: some of those missing people? What do you think?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: You know, I really don't have any inside information on that.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I've heard that same thing, but you know, I really
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: don't know. For the most part, the people that I
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: talked to you that have had encounters with Bigfoot, they
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: don't seem to be readily attacking people or taking them.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I mean not to say that they wouldn't. I'm just
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: saying from the people that I talked to, it doesn't
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: seem like that's the agenda, now, you know. Could there
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: be a crazy Bigfoot that's doing that. Yeah, probably somewhere
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: along the way there's a Bigfoot that doesn't follow protocol,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you know. But on the other hand, you know, I
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: would be more inclined to think that it would be
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: the UFO community rather than a Bigfoot community or even
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: dog Man, because dog Man seems vicious. Now. I haven't
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: heard a good word about dog Man ever, So I
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: would be more inclined to think it might be something
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: like that. But even within this KSE eight four one
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: is what I call this ten mile radius that I'm
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: researching right now, and that haunted wood place. I mean,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: it may just be folklore, you know, who knows. But
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: back in the nineteen thirties was reported that this guy
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: was parked his car along a gravel road in that
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: wooded area and someone found his They found him. He
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: was gone, but his hand was severed and was in
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: the car seat. So it's like that. Thus it started
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: kind of the phenomena of this haunted wooded area. But
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: that sounds like it might have been a dog man
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: or something. You know, it's hard to say for sure.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think it sounds like bigfoot. That doesn't sound
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: like a bigfoot to me.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: It doesn't. That's it sounds. See, we have to worry
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: about more than just cryptids in the woods. We have
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: to worry about serial killers and you know, people, humans,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you know, because humans play a big role. I mean,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I've also watched the hills have eyes. Okay, the hills
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: have eyes, and you know, we even talk about ferald people.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: And at this point we've some of the places we
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: research have off grid people living out there in I
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: don't want to say colts, but I mean that's kind
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: of what it is in one of the cases where
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: we experience so a lot of a lot of interesting
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: things going on in the woods where we do have
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: to protect ourselves, if you know what I mean.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember when I first started filming by Ways
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: of Bigfoot. I mean I was I would just take
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: my camera and go out and spend the day filming,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: you know, in these conservation areas and along the river
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: of the Naigua River, and you know, I didn't think,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you know, well, you know, is there a big foot here?
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. It's like because I
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: really didn't think we would find that much evidence. And
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: then when I took everyone out for the filming, we
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: were finding this evidence, and I'm thinking, oh my goodness.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I was out here by myself, walking through
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: this wooded area alone, you know, totally no one around,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: no one lives anywhere near there. And you know, if
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: there was something, you know, I would have been easy prey.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: This is all there was to it. Easy, easy prey.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: But nothing happened, and I didn't see any signs of Bigfoot.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Whenever I was there by myself, I was just kind
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: of filming nature at the time, to you know, to
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: add to the to the to the film. Didn't even
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: think about it, didn't even think about it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Bigfoot is the least of my worries when
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: I'm out in the woods, because I feel, especially in
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: the places that I frequent with my research, I feel
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: as though I'm safe there. I know, I know it
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: sounds kind of weird, but I feel I feel pretty
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: safe there, as though I have some kind of kindred
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: relationship with the things that are out there, like they
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: know me and uh and you can you know, the
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: couple of people that I've taken out to one of
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: those spots, they even told me one of the guys,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: do you tell me, is like Jessica, I felt pretty
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: safe because I felt like I felt like they knew you,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: and I was safe because I was with you. Okay,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: And I know that to a lot of people that
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: sounds really weird, but I think it's just normal and
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: it's typical. And I think I think bigfoots are a
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: lot like humans. Okay, you respect them, they respect you back.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: For the most part, I think that's true. Too, and
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and I really do kind of believe that
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: they knew we were going to be doing this film,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and you know, and we just were very gentle about
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: our approach to it. But I think that you know,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: they they know Eric, they know his property, and we
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: were going to be filming out there too, and there
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: was just this sense all along the way. It was
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: almost like, Okay, we're going to leave me some evidence.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: You know. It's like, we didn't film that many days
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: out in this wooded area. We went to several places
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: and there was evidence everywhere we went, and no one
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: could have planted that because no one but me knew
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: we were going there, So no one was planning evidence
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: because I was the only one that knew we were
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: going to film, where we were we going to film,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: and what they were going to film there. So when
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I took the crew out, they were the ones that
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: found a lot of the of the evidence. But but
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: no one, no one could have known. So I don't
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: feel like.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, But that's that's one thing we never tell
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: anybody when we're going somewhere when as a team, that's
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: part of our op sect is what we call it.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I never let people know where I'm going when I'm going,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: but I will I will let people know sometimes when
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I get back, okay, because because it can get it
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: can get diluted, and people go out there and trick
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: you and stuff, especially if they know where you're going.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: And so people I've had people get upset that I
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: didn't give my locations away and stuff where we do
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: our research. But see, we're constantly researching there, and so
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: we don't want we don't want that to get it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say invaded, but we were just
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: on this ongoing research we've been doing for years or
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: decades at these certain places. And you let the cat
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: out of the bag and then everybody starts showing up there.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: It's just like you Worri, for instance, let's just say
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: you Warri. That's one of my very good friends, David David.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say David. I won't say exactly who
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: it had been David. He's been on my show. That's
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: one of his research areas, and he said that after
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: finding Bigfoot started filming there, he can't hardly even research
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: there anymore because there are so many people that it's
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: like a big Foot destination spot.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Now yeah, you know, I think you do kind of
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: have to protect areas because otherwise, you know, that's what happens. Yeah.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a sad reality of it. And but
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: it's wonderful that people are getting out and getting their encounters.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: And I am all for people getting out and doing
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: bigfoot research. I think it's amazing. And uh, and I'm
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I'm no gatekeeper, y'all. I want people to get out
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: and do what I do. If you if you've got
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: the time and the resources and the you know, the
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: drive and the I was gonna say, the balls are
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: still I'm just kidding, uh, because you got to you
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: got to have a little bit of crazy in you
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: to go out and do the things that I do
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: in a good way. But but yeah, it's not for everybody.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: No, it's an adventure and you have to be willing
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: to come across whatever you come across, whatever happens happens. Yeah, true, yeah, whatever.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: You've got to be prepared for whatever happens to happen,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: and uh, and just and have a have a loose
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: game plan if something goes bad or goes wrong out there.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I've never had any kind of experience where
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I felt super threatened by a big foot out in
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: the field. Not yet, some of the guys have. But
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm a woman. I
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: don't I never used my gender to you know, make
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: an excuse for like, Okay, well maybe it's just cause,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: but but maybe it is, you know. And sometimes I
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: have my son out there with me. He's he's only ten.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I don't take him researching usually on like the ever
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: to the dangerous places that we go, but I'll take
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: him out there with me, and he's seeing a bigfoot already,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: he's already had an encounter.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how does he feel about that? Is he? Oh?
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: He loved it. He loved it. He was Yeah. He
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: was actually out in the field with me yesterday and
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: we did some light research last night and went ended
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: up in old the old graveyard. I think I mentioned
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: that earlier. We ended up in an old graveyard last night,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: and some of the guys actually let him kind of
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: take the lead with that. It was really cute actually,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: because he's, like I said, he's only ten, and we knew. See,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: we don't use flashlights or headlamps usually if we don't
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: have to, but my son, it's another. That's another thing.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: He's a kid, So we let him put on his
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: green light on his headlamp and lead the pack. He
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: led us to that graveyard last night, and that was
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: a big deal. That was a big deal for him.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm just getting him prepared, you know,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: to be a bigfoot researcher in the future kind of
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: and and it was a big deal. He loved it.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: He's actually even had I don't know if Coco was
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: in the chat tonight, but we met her at the
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Georgia Bigfoot Conference this past year and she is a
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: like a forensic artist and drew what my son saw.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: So we actually have a sketch of the Bigfoot that
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: we all. I saw it too, and two of my
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: other research partners. We all four of us saw it.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: And so that was his first Bigfoot experience.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's stoked. Exciting for him.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great when you know, children, children
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: get involved in things like this and you know, and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's for everybody, okay, and uh, don't
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: just take your kids out bigfooting if you don't have
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people with you and stuff. I mean,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: that's just my opinion on it, people that are highly
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: trained to protect those kids. Okay, but yeah, but he
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: loves it, and I think we I think kids having
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: an open mind today is like the most important thing
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: we can give our kids and teach them is to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: have that open mind when it comes to stuff like Bigfoot.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have to have an open mind. And
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: even you know, even myself, I know we can through
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the progression of all of the years that I've been
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: involved in in encounters, you know, of any sort, it's
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: like you reach those thresholds and those points where it's like,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like I'm not sure I quite believe that,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: you know, and then you know, a year or two later,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, no, that's real. That's that's you know.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: So you just kind of just keep pushing yourself along
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the line of reality, you know, and it just keeps
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: opening up and shifting and getting larger and more believable,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: you know, every step of the way.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't. I've learned that I'm not going
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: to hide anything from my son too, when it comes
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: to my reality. Okay, this is my reality is that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot is real. And some people think that Bigfoot is
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: a monster, they don't want their kids to even think
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: that a monster could exist. But you know, I'm not
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: hiding anything from him, and I'm going to let and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I'm letting him have his own experiences under a controlled environment, Okay,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: a controlled environment, and I think that's important just just
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: for the elevation of the consciousness of the kids around
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: him and stuff too. I mean, they I'm kind of
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I don't feel bad. I was gonna say, I kind
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: of feel bad because I'm sure some of his friends
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: think he's crazy because I did hold back ten years, Linda,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't tell anybody I was a bigfoot researcher for
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: ten years. I mean, some people knew, but I got
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: made fun of all the time about it. So now
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: it's cool to be a bigfoot researcher, but back then
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: it wasn't.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's become very fatish. You know, there are
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of shows out there on bigfoot, and now
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: everybody's kind of talking about it. So it is, it's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: in its prime. I think at this point in time,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: as far as in becoming more aware, people are very
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: much more aware, and it's become more of a legitimate thing.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, people didn't believe it was real.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: But you know, when you start talking to people though,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have had a lot of different
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: varied encounters, whether it be with you know, aliens or
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: ghost or seeing a craft in the sky orbs. A
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: lot of people have seen orbs. But unless you start
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: talking to them about it and you give that open
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: door where they feel comfortable sharing that with you, they
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: may never tell you.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. You got to go over that threshold.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, I love that you just wrote
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: a book about Okay, tell me about your book too.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the stuff that's in your book.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Threshold to Encounters, And it really covers a lot. It
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: covers like from nineteen ninety when I first started doing
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: UFO research and you know, took people all over the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: country doing research with with the UFO and the UFO field,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: took a lot of reports. There's a lot of that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: in there. But it really compares kind of the whole
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: paranormal field with you know, with bigfoot, ghost and aliens.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it covers all of that, but then I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: also have some theories and ideas in there of what
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: we might be dealing with that aren't just right out there,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you know, open in front of us. And part of
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: that goes back to my early early days doing the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: UFO research. You know, I was a hypnotherapist and I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: was teaching hypnosis also. I would do hypnosis classes, and
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I remember this one man came to this class and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I was doing extra, extra night rehearse for people who
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: wanted to have extra practice. So he came this one night.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: He was the only student there, and he started just
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: kind of being kind of odd and kind of telling
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: me this story about you know, you could tell that
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: he didn't feel real comfortable telling me or sharing this
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: with me, but he was asking a lot about mind control.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And then he told me that, you know, he had
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: had moved back east and got involved with this secret
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: society that he would not tell me the name of.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: But he married a woman who was to hit her
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: her father and brother and uncle. Maybe you know, we're
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: all part of this secret society and the really high
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: top top levels of it. So by marrying her, they
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: took him up the ranks really fast, to this high
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: high level in this secret society. But they kind of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: used him as a receiver to this, you know, this
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: whatever they were projecting that he could see and kind
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: of you know, psychically be able to see these things.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Then he got a divorce, he moved back to my
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: neck of the woods. It's where he was from. And
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: now he was taking this hypnosis class. But he acted.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to tell me because he would start
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and he would stop and start and stop. But at
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: the end of that come to find out they were
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: still projecting things to him. He felt like and he
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: could see like aliens in his house, and he could
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: see craft outside, and he didn't see Bigfoot. You know,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: they weren't projecting Bigfoot, but they were projecting you know,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: like prophetic things in the future, all kinds of things
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: to him. And the weird thing was he never came
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: back to class. Tried to call him, his phone had
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: been disconnected. He never showed up again. It was like
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the guy just you know, dropped off the face of
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the earth. So I always kind of wondered about that,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: you know, It's like, is everything we see actually what
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: we're seeing or is there some form of projection that
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: it could be. Now I think with him those were
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: telepath projections, but I know they have they do have
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: of course, now technology that can do the same thing.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: They have teleg they have holograms that you cannot tell
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: the difference between. I mean, you can touch them, you
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: can you can see them and touch them, and you know,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: all kinds of your all five senses involved in a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: hologram at this particular point. So you know, I hope
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: we don't get to that, to the place where you know,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: the reality that we think we can trust is really
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: based on our five senses. So you know, if we
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: can't trust that, I'm not sure what we'll do. But
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: that is one of the things I do write about
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: in the book. I think most of the people that
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I know have had real experiences, but we really don't
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: know for sure. And that was in nineteen ninety, you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: know that he was sharing that with me. I had
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: never overlaid that really with a lot of the UFO
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: research that I did until I wrote this book, and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I'm just going to put that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: in there just as a possibility. But then I have
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: other theories and ideas in there too, you know, just
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: food for thought. You know, with this weird reality we're
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: dealing with, we really don't know exactly what we're dealing with.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: So food for thought.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I still don't know exactly what I'm dealing
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: with too out there. And something else that we're talking
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: about today in the field about not labor things, not
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: labeling it, because you know, when we're going people are
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: going out there looking for bigfoot. When they have something
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: that happens out there in regard to a noise, a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: stick hitting something, or a knox, it sounds like a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: t I don't think they're tree knockx what they call
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: them tree knocks stuff like that, or whatever happens if
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: you're looking for bigfoot. Some people are just gonna think
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: everything's a bigfoot, but it's not always a bigfoot. If
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: you're going out there looking for UFOs, you're just a
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: UFO researcher. Everything's going to be a UFO, but maybe
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: it's not. You know, So it's important not to label
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: things and to keep that open mind about it. But
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: once you start living this stuff and really you know,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: having these experiences, especially like your whole life or even
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: if you're out in the field doing research, you start
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: seeing that all these things are connected and things are
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: not what you think they are either. And you know
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: you'd mentioned I know in your book on your cover.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Let's see, you've got a ghost. You're talking about aliens,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: bigfoot and ghosts. And when I was a kid, I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: used to wake up at night and have people standing
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: around my bed talking to me, but their mouths wouldn't move. Well,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: as I got older, I started having ET's in my
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: room standing over my bed talking to me, and their
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: mouths wouldn't move. And I started making this connection and
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: I thought, well, Wow, what if what I thought were
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: ghosts my whole life were actually aliens?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think that that's true. We do
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: tend to think about that, and even bigfoot. You know,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of the behavior that you think of ghost
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: You know, you see a wisp of a ghost going by,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: and you think, well, that's, you know, a spirit or
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: some remnant of energy you know, from someone from the past.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: But a bigfoot can walk by and disappear right in
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: front of you, and no one ever says, oh, that's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: the ghost of a bigfoot. You know, it's always bigfoot disappeared.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: So you know, we're having the same phenomena happen sometimes
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: between the three, and we're not really evaluating them by
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: the same standards. However, so we do have to look
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: at that as well.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Kathleen Michael, thank you for that supersticker. I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: appreciate that. Okay, I have put the question out there
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: to the audience before on occasion. Can dog man be ghost?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Can bigfoots be ghosts? Is there a spiritual side to bigfoot?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: And there's all sorts of different opinions on that, definitely
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: different opinions. But I mean we have on film there
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: are dog man sightings. There's one down in Florida. I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: think it's called the Fort Pierce dog Man. It looks
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: like that it's almost like a spirit of dog Man
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: that runs past the camera in this guy's backyard. Now,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: it could it just be that it's on a different frequency.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Could it just be that it was moving quickly. I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. I just you have to
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: have an open mind to it. But one of the
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: options could be maybe that was a ghost.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's some kind of an energy anyway.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: But I've heard the same thing about Bigfoot, that they'll
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: see a bigfoot and then it just kind of turns
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: into this like heat wave pattern and you can see
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: it going through the woods. You can see it going
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: through bushy area but you can no longer see a form.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: It's just like this wavy kind of you know, it's
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: almost like these things have a frequency that can just
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: like pop in, pop out, or just kind of move
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: in from energy to a physical form. And UFOs and
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: aliens and things like that, of course, same thing. I
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: remember taking a report from a lady that was sitting
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: in her living room, broad daylight afternoon, and suddenly she
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: looks at the chair across from her, and there's a
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: little alien sitting there, you know, just sitting there looking
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: at her, you know, and says there for a while
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: and then just poof disappears. What does she just see?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: You know? What is that a flesh and blood creature,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: a being you know that that's there with her? Is
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: it some kind of a or is it some kind
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: of a just you know, an energy feel that is,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: or maybe even a time warp? You know, was she
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: looking at something that wasn't there in real time as
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: we think of it today?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Know?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Was it something from the past or the future, or
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: something that's just you know, it's temporary, it's not it's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: not ongoing, you know. It seems they seem to come
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: and go from our world.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they jump in and they jump out of our
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: reality sometimes. And I don't know if it's a frequency thing,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: if it's something to do with portals. I think it's frequencies.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: I am convinced that we just come we as humans
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: go up and down in frequency too, and so it's
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: just like when we we can finally get on the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: same radio station on the same frequency as whatever we encounter,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: that's when we have these experiences. To me, that's why
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: I tell everybody keep your vibrational frequency high, try to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: vibe high. Be part of my high vibe tribe, okay.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: And and I think that that's maybe that's why I'm
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: not saying I've always been high vibe, but maybe that's
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: why some people have more experiences than other people because
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: they have a higher vibrational frequency as far as their
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: human energy goes.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I think. So, I think you have to churs. One
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: of the basic things when I was learning to be
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: intuitive at all, you know, was really matching frequencies. You know,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: if you were going to to be able to know
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: something outside of yourself, you know, you have to be
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: able to match that frequency to know it. And my
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: specialty was, you know, reading the human body. You know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: being able to read inside the human body because I was.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: I worked for a very long time teaching people mind body, spirit,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: you know kind of connection. So I help people to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: to be able to see within themselves, to see their
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: own physical health or any problems that they might have
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: with it. So you know, that was something that it
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: took a long time to learn the connection. And I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: remember once somebody said, well, how is it that you
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: do that. I said, well, you know, it's like you
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: just you know, like take control of this, and I go, no,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: I don't do that at all. What I really do
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: was match the frequency. And when you match the frequency
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: of another person, it's like there's no separation. You know,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know who they are, you
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: know they're thought, you know their physical condition, you know
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: everything about them. It's just readily available. So I think
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: that whenever, whenever we see you know, a ghost or
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: bigfoot or an alien for some reason, we're able to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: somehow match that frequency where we're able. It's we're able
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: to actually have some kind of interaction with them. Otherwise
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think we would see them.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think I agree with that one hundred percent.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: And uh, I was just thinking like, one of the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: biggest arguments in the bigfoot community is there's a divide
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: between the flesh and bone bigfooters and then the supernatural
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: X factor. I call it the X factor. That's what
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: my team calls it, the X factor of Bigfoot. But see,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: like if you think about humans, humans have an X
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: factor too, okay, And so I think humans are supernatural too.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: So I don't think I don't know. I just I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: don't think it's that crazy because I think that a
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: lot of us do. I think what it is we're
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: tapping into the I don't want to say the ethers
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: so much, but we're tapping into our abilities, some of
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: us and some some people just I think they're tapped
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: into but maybe not as much as others.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, Yeah, yeah it does. And also, you know,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: just the human perception. I think we think we see
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: everything around us, but we really see very very small
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: bits and pieces of things around us, and we just
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: tune most of it out. So I think a lot
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: of people can just be right in the midst of
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: these beings and not see them because they're just tuned out.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we all need those dician and digoggles. I'm
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: just kidding. I don't know if you're familiar with those.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I actually I don't know if I want those ever,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: because you see, you see into other dimensions, they say,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: and uh, and it's it's not it's not pretty from
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: what I understand.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: But yeah, some some of us, some people will see
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: more than others because some people are just more tuned
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: in or they're just on that frequency. And that's just
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: how it is. And that's how it is with ghost
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: and all the paranormal stuff.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I guess right it is.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, did you see ghosts when you were growing up?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: I know you said you didn't have a lot of experiences.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I've only had. I've only had. I mean, I've been
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: more of a researcher than an experiencer. But I saw
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: I felt a ghost one time, and it was very confirming. Though.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: This was one of those synchronistic moments that I felt
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: a ghost behind me in a house, and this was
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: when I was just starting to open up to a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: lot of my intuition. But I felt something uncomfortable. I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. But a good friend of
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: mine could see energy and she could see something moving
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: back there. But she didn't tell me until after I
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: got up and moved and said, I felt uncomfortable there.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: But within just a few days there was a man
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: came to my house for hypnosis and he walked in
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: and he's acting really strange, and he's kind of walking
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: around the room and folded his hands and he's kind of,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: you know, pacing around. I thought, this is really strange,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: so I invited him to come into the living room
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: where I had felt that ghost. And before he stepped
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: in there, he looked at and he said, I think
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: my father used to live in this house. And he
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: said and he died right there, and it was right
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: there in the corner where i'd felt that ghost behind me.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: So I felt like that was very There's a lot
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: of confirmation in that in that statement. So that's the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: only time I've ever actually felt a ghost. I didn't
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: see it. I felt it. But I used to own
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: a haunted house, so I didn't live there. It was
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: an investment property, didn't didn't own it for very long.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: But a woman had committed suicide in the attic of
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: the house and there was a family living there when
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: we bought it, and they were telling us that it
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: was haunted, and the whole neighborhood knew this house was haunted,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: but it's really strange things were going on there. You know,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: things would be moved around, there were kids toys that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: would just be there was a little fire truck and
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: the letter would go up and down by itself. Lights
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: would go off and on, appliances come and go. I mean,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: there was just some strangeness going on in that house.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: So I did own a haunted house for a time.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: So I've lived in some haunted houses. I lived in
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: one really haunted house. I've talked about it on the
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: show quite a bit, and I don't I don't really
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: care to live in a haunted house ever. Again, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: how do you how do you deal with that as
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: a as a property owner? Were you? Did you? I mean,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know if people have to, like I'm not
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: sure if you have to disclose that when somebody buys
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: a house. I mean, was it just some people don't
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: mind living in a haunted house.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think you do. I don't think that's one
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: of those things you have to verify. Most people might
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: not believe it anyway, But this house actually ended up
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: on the news when Halloween. It was that haunted oh
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: my gosh, everybody knew this house was on it. And
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: then I used to do, you know, just paranormal research.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I went to this one small town had I mean
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: the whole town was kind of haunted, really, but researched
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: these three different areas in this one house. I mean,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: they had some strange things going on there. And the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: weird thing was they had this statue that was not
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: from the United States. It was a woodness carved statue
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: of it was pretty big and tall, maybe around four
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: feet tall and oh, you know, pretty big around and
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: they said when they brought out in the houses, when
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: things started happening, they kind of wondered if that was
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: was the cause of it. They didn't know if it
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: was possessed or something weird like that, because a lot
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: of activity happened around this. But one night they came
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: home from a party and this lady had a really
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: nice dress, slipped the dress off and just laid it
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: over the sofa so it wouldn't get all wrinkled and
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: messed up. The next day she gets up and the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: dress is wadded up and put into the freezer in
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: the kitchen. So yeah, and then weird, you know, things
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: would be moved around. They had they had an upstairs
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: in the house and there was like loose change would
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: just you know, start dropping down the foyer, you know,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: at the opening of the front door where the stairway was.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, just strange things, you know, what happened through
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: this house. They thought they were gonna have to move.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: It was that much weird stuff happening there. So you know,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: you know, we took some, we took some took some
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: instrumentation and you know, to try to get some measurements
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: in there. And there were high high levels of electromagnetic
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: fields in the various places they were having activity. And
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: the house had known to be haunted though before that,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: even before they bought it and moved in, there was
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: a doctor that used to live there, I think, and
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: people would see this image in a window at in
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: the house, and everyone knew this house had some unusual,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, weird activity, but they didn't have any strangeness
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: until this statue thing came in there. So yeah, just weird. Oh.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: I hope doctor Dennis Carroll's going to hear this because
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: I have him on the show with me. He comes
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: on and co hosts, and he's very much into the
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: occult into even demonology, and he's always saying, you know,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: be careful what you bring in your house and if
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: you have something that because things canna be haunted, from
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: mirrors to any kind of antiques. And I went through
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: a faith for I used to love to go to
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: the thrift store and look for antiques and it's not
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: a good idea.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Actually no, right, Yeah. I heard a guy one time
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: bought a dining set and brought it home and they
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: started having some strange stuff happened in their house. Yeah,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: and hell.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta be careful because you just don't know.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: It's all about the energies and attachments. Anything could be attached.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Midwest night Watchers, Hey, Giryl. Giryl's asking, have you ever
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: heard of ghosts being dressed in modern clothing? That's a
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: good question. Have you heard of that, Linda, a ghost
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: being dressed in modern day clothes.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a case that I researched that it
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: was at a commercial It was a commercial spot where
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: this man and woman had a little apartment in the
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: back of this commercial space and they hadn't lived there
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: very long and they started noticing this little girl and
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: she was in modern clothing, but this little girl would
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: walk through the house and it was like what. And
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: then they also had weird things happening with their applients.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Is you know, their microwave would just come on and
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: go off, and you know, coffee pot would would do
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Just strange stuff. But in this commercial
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: space that there was stuff happening in there too. It
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't just in their apartment where this little girl was
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: running around, but in the commercial space. You know, they
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: would lock up at night and the next day they
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: go in, lights would be on, you know, it would
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: do things, moved around, I mean, just all kinds of strangeness.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: But yeah, she was. She was in modern clothing. They
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: described her because they saw her over and over again.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Oh wow. You know there's one time where I woke
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: up at night and I'd mentioned that I saw ghosts
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: when I was young, and then I started seeing ets,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: and I questioned, what those were? Those ets? Those ghosts
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: actually ets. Well, there was a couple standing by my
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: bed one night and they were dressed in that Victorian
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: era clothing with the high necked collars, and the woman's
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: hair was in a bun and the man had a
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: top pad or something and like a tuxedo suit on.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I mean they were very just like high fashion, you know,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: but to me it was like high fashion was fancy.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: But it's just weird because you hear about that a lot,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: and that's a great that was a great question, girl,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: because we see a lot of ghosts wearing Victorian era clothing,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: like it is that that's true?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think giveaway that there, you know that
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: it's it's something from the past. When you do see
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: someone in modern clothing or something that would be for today,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: you know, it may we may run into ghost a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: lot and not even realize that that it's a ghost.
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  Speaker 1: And if they look too, if they look real. And
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  Speaker 1: I've heard of people, you know, I've even interview some
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  Speaker 1: people on my show that they they will be talking
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  Speaker 1: to someone or see someone walking down the hall and
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  Speaker 1: not realize that that's a deceased person. And then the
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  Speaker 1: home owner will come back and they'll say, oh, you
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  Speaker 1: know such and such stop by and you know, talk
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  Speaker 1: had a chat and they said, there isn't you know
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  Speaker 1: that person's my grandfather and he's just been deceased, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for ten years or something like that. Just weird, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that you can't tell the difference that that's a ghost
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  Speaker 1: or a real person. You know that that that is
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  Speaker 1: that would be a really I think that would be
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  Speaker 1: a more interesting experience than just seeing a ghost.
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  Speaker 2: It would well, you know, when I started questioning whether
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  Speaker 2: there's that Victorian era couple was a ghost or ets,
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  Speaker 2: I started thinking, well, what if it was ET's and
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  Speaker 2: that that's like their go to screen memory. Okay, because
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  Speaker 2: that's like in our collective consciousness, is a Victorian era ghost?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Maybe it could be that these things are interchangeable.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they may just put on suits. You know
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  Speaker 1: that today I'm an et, Tomorrow I'm a bigfoot Tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: the next day I'm going to be a Victorian dress ghost.
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  Speaker 1: You know, just that it's hard to say. No.
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  Speaker 2: I like the way you think though, that's that make
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  Speaker 2: that would make sense too. It's like, we really don't know,
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  Speaker 2: And that's why it's so great to have open minds
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  Speaker 2: about this and just kind of put it out there
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  Speaker 2: and to share our stories with each other too, so
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  Speaker 2: that we can kind of wrap our heads around it
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  Speaker 2: a little better. Sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's so many things, I mean, you know,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty interviews. I mean, everybody's had a
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: different experience, of course, somewhat different experience, and they just
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  Speaker 1: bring so much to the table of trying to understand
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, because otherwise you wouldn't hear this. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't hear about a bigfoot just disappearing
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: or looking like an energy wave or all the sounds.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you know, people having all the sounds
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: with bigfoot, but there's they don't see anything, nothing is disrupted,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just a noise. But then you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no trees down, there's no disruption to the to
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: the campground or anything. It sounds like they're tearing things
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: up and nothing's changed. So what are they hearing? What
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  Speaker 1: are we hearing?
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  Speaker 3: When?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: When? When that sort of thing happens, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's that's where where people get into putting it
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: out there that maybe it's some kind of interdimensional activity
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  Speaker 2: going on. Maybe it's just I don't know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot to wrap your head around.
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  Speaker 1: It's it doesn't fit neatly into our reality that we
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: experienced day to day, So that's why it's so. But
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: it's also a mystery, and I think that's one of
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: the things that keeps us going after it because the
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: mystery is what drives our attention.
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  Speaker 2: It does, and you are driven, Linda, and I love it.
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  Speaker 2: You are really doing a wonderful job and all the
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: interviews that you've done and just putting the information out
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: there because people like myself and people all my friends,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: we like to hear other people's stories because it does
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: validate a lot of the stuff that we've experienced in
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: our lives. So I applaud you for all the work
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: you're putting in. And you're doing the boots on the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: ground filled research too, and putting your films out there,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: and it's so needed right now, especially in the Bigfoot community.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: So thank you for that.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I love every drop of it. So yeah,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like work. It feels like fun. So
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  Speaker 1: it's easy to do.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: It is somebody who was asking me, I think he
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: was asking me the other day. He's like, how do
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: you do all these shows? He's like, this is a lot.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, you do a lot, And I was like,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: because I love it. I love it, and I know
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you love it too, And that's why.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: That's why we do what we do. Yes, So yeah, well, Linda,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here tonight, and I
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: hope that you'll come back and hang out with me again.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: I think we had a pretty fantastic conversation tonight actually,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: so yes, we did. We did, And I would love
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  Speaker 2: for you to tell the audience about your book and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: your films and where they can find you and your
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: books and your films and anything else you got going on.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Well, you can find the book Threshold to Encounters at
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Amazon dot com. And you can find me on YouTube.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: It's just Linda Eastbourne YouTube channel, so it's easy to
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: find that too. And also come join my group on Facebook.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: It's called Bigfoot Cryptid Midwest, so you can join up
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: there and you can see everything that I do.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to type that out. Let's see Bigfoot Crypted Midwest.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: I forgot to put that one UPO Cryptid Midwest. Okay,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: now we're gonna add that. We'll put this up there too,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: you guys, please yeah, go go join Linda's group on Facebook.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: It's a great group. I I just liked a couple
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: of posts in there before the show tonight. As a
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, and so yeah, you've got your you've
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: got your your ear to the ground, your ear to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: the streets, and your finger on the pulse of the
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: paranormal community. And also your film documentaries as well. We
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: can't leave those out. Eric is in the chat. By
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: the way, Eric, I just saw Eric and I was
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: watching By Ways of big Foot. That's such a wonderful documentary.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: And everybody, y'all please go check that out over on
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Linda Eastburn's Linda Eastburn on YouTube on the YouTube channel.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: But that's that's got our friend Eric in it, everybody,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: Eric Testerman. Yeah, Eric, we were talking about you earlier.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: If you're still in here, so yes, okay, Well, Linda,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: thank you so much again for being here. And I
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: promise you I would love to take you out bigfooting
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: if you ever come to Georgia. You just hit me up,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: okay and let me know you're coming.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: We're gonna save a spot for you on the team. Okay,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: just come out and we'll go bigfooting. Okay, awesome, Well,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: thank you guys. I want to thank everybody for being
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: here tonight. And you guys are the best. We have
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: the best audience, the best chat over here, and I
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: want to make sure I got everybody. Oh my goodness, Walter,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for that supersticker. I missed you earlier.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: I do appreciate you very much and that's very sweet
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: of you. And who else Cosmic Joke Chronicles thank you,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: and Kathleen Michael thank you as well for the superstickers tonight.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: And you guys please, I'm going to be out of
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: town again tomorrow. I will not be at Space Out Radio,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: but I will be back next week on Wednesday with
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: my Glitch and the Matrix Show. So you guys please
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: come back and see me this week. Okay, but I
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: have to go get some sleep tonight because I was
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: in the woods all night last night and all day today,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: so I'm a little tired. But everybody, have a wonderful night. Linda,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: thanks again for being here, and I hope to see
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: you soon. All right, everybody, y'all have a great night,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: stay safe out there, keep your head on a swivel,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: and I'll see y'all next week. All right, Bye, Linda,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Thank y'all.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Bye Plinny Wins.
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  Speaker 1: Many US teams