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The Way Home Season 4 Listener Mailbag #3 · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hamemark, a Hallmark review podcast. I'm Agan,
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Speaker 1: and I'm a longtime homemark in. I'm Wendy. I'm a
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Speaker 1: former homework hater. We're back with another edition of the
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Speaker 1: Way Home mail Bag. This time we're talking all things
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Speaker 1: up to episode three. Y'all are on fire with your
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Speaker 1: mail bag submissions this week, so keep them coming. The
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Speaker 1: best way to do that going forward is to email
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Speaker 1: us hello at Girlsgnhalllmark dot com or send us a
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Speaker 1: voicemail nine four nine three two nine eight zero nine zero.
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Speaker 1: Do we have any voicemails this week? We do. I
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Speaker 1: just realize it's not in this that I have it.
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Speaker 1: I have it classic, and we're doing something a little
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Speaker 1: bit different with our format because there were so many
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Speaker 1: emails with so much great insight. We have organ your
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Speaker 1: comments around subject matter, so don't worry, we'll still be
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Speaker 1: crediting you, but rather than reading a full email about
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Speaker 1: five or six different points, we're interspersing them. So let
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Speaker 1: us know how you like this format. I wonder if
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Speaker 1: I was the writer inner, if I would be like,
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Speaker 1: excuse me, I would like all my flowers. I want
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Speaker 1: the read I know. I'm curious on feedback. But considering
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Speaker 1: the number of emails we got and all the plot
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Speaker 1: points we're talking about, I think this is this is
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Speaker 1: a good way to do it too. We'll see, we
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Speaker 1: shall see. Let us know, all right, First up, we're
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Speaker 1: going to talk some messages we got. Y'all. Lit us
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Speaker 1: up about two different subjects this week, And the first
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Speaker 1: one was the mistake I made about Kat's age. Aaron
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Speaker 1: writes in Kat is actually forty two forty three ish.
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Speaker 1: She was born in nineteen eighty three slash nineteen eighty four,
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Speaker 1: and Elliott confirmed he was left on the porch in
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three. She was fifteen or sixteen in the
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine story arc. She gave birth to Alice.
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Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight. She found out she was
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Speaker 1: pregnant shortly after the Lingermore incident, which was Halloween two
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Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Yeah, I don't know why I thought
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Speaker 1: she got pregnant, like right out of high school. I
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Speaker 1: just had messed that story up. I don't even remember.
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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember the comment, but I don't remember
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Speaker 1: how old you thought she was. I thought she had
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Speaker 1: gotten pregnant right out of high school, like for some reason,
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Speaker 1: I was misremembering that, so I was saying, so that
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Speaker 1: was she was thirty six, but she has got Itlysa
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Speaker 1: also wrote in about Cat's age and wrote, Kat Elliott
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Speaker 1: are around forty three forty four present time. They graduated
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Speaker 1: high school in two thousand at seventeen slash eighteen. She
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Speaker 1: didn't have Alice until two thousand and eight, which means
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Speaker 1: she would have been twenty five twenty six in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and eighteen years from two thousand and
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Speaker 1: eight puts her around forty three or forty four. I
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Speaker 1: will I know a lot of people are saying they're
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Speaker 1: giving age ranges because up until now we haven't heard
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Speaker 1: Kat's actual birth year. This weekend we will get some
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Speaker 1: clarity on that, so I will boiler any further. Megan
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Speaker 1: and I have seen the episode heard this weekend, correct
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Speaker 1: and we get a lot of confirmation on this. Yes,
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Speaker 1: but y'all are right. I was absolutely wrong and I
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Speaker 1: own it. Next up, we have some comments about our
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Speaker 1: boy Elliott. Alyssa. Alissa says, I'm once again super annoyed
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Speaker 1: with Elliott. He's throwing a hissy fit about Dell keeping
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Speaker 1: secrets and putting this silent treatment against her he's in
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Speaker 1: his forties, like learn to productively communicate and not act
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Speaker 1: like a child. Yeah, someone's on my team. Alyssa goes
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Speaker 1: on to say in season four, episode one, he basically
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Speaker 1: screamed at everyone that his mom abandoned him and he
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Speaker 1: didn't care to find out anything else about her. Now
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Speaker 1: he's upset at people for not telling him things. Make
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Speaker 1: up your mind. Elliott jeesus, and Francisco says he's going
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Speaker 1: through something of an existential crisis. It seems dredging up
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Speaker 1: all these issues with his mom. I think they'll be
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Speaker 1: resolved by the end of the series. Though also I'm
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Speaker 1: obviously an Elliott fan, but he really needs to pop
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Speaker 1: the question. What are your thoughts on that? Popping the question? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm not in any rush for that to happen, because
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Speaker 1: I know sometime has passed, but Cat and Elliot took
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Speaker 1: a long time to get to a comfortable, stable place
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Speaker 1: and they I don't think we're messing with the Cat
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Speaker 1: and Elliott relationship in this season. That's not my sense,
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Speaker 1: so I think I think, but it took them a
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Speaker 1: long time to get to that place, so I'm not
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Speaker 1: in any rush for that to happen. It'll happen this season.
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Speaker 1: I'm not in any rush either. However, if there's an
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Speaker 1: urgency to possibly have children, then that becomes like makes
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Speaker 1: it a rush situation, especially if she's forty two forty three.
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Speaker 1: But sure, No, I'm just like whatever you guys are together. Now.
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Speaker 1: As someone who has been married twenty five years, I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: what's the rush? Actually, my mindset is so different than
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Speaker 1: when I was twenty three, you know same. Honestly, if
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Speaker 1: I got married and divorced, and I don't know if
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Speaker 1: I would ever get married again, I would just happily
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Speaker 1: coexist my partner. I agree with you, But I think
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Speaker 1: about that all the time, like what's the advantage? And
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Speaker 1: then I'm that's like such like a pragmatic approach, like
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Speaker 1: there's no romance in it. But I think, why would
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Speaker 1: I do that again? I know, unless somebody came and
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Speaker 1: like really swept me off my feet, but like yeah,
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Speaker 1: and then maybe my mindset is different. But other you know,
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Speaker 1: like I kind of like my independence, and I says
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Speaker 1: the married woman, I know like my independence. I just
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Speaker 1: think like why do I want to share my money
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Speaker 1: with somebody? Why do I want to Yeah, we'll We'll
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Speaker 1: just be cool. I just want to, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: move next door to Meghan. You just, however, one big
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Speaker 1: backyard where dogs and run around. Totally. We're good. We
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Speaker 1: are good. I mean the thought I've given to that movie.
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Speaker 1: I'll be seeing you and you and I at a retirement.
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Speaker 1: He might be thinking about that, and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: how does my husband play into this situation. He's not
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Speaker 1: even a factor? Oh man, all right? Moving back on
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Speaker 1: to the way home. Our next category is Elliott and
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Speaker 1: Kat slash kid discussion. Okay, Well, Alisa wrote in she
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Speaker 1: says Elliott bringing up kids with Kat right before he
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Speaker 1: was going to propose, as if they've never had this
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Speaker 1: discussion before, is crazy. Girl. You are almost in your
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Speaker 1: mid forties. You cannot delay this discussion too long. At
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Speaker 1: this point, they might need fertility treatments to have kids,
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Speaker 1: which from personal experience, is a long process. This is
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Speaker 1: an excellent point, it is. Jen wrote in she wrote,
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Speaker 1: very hallmark for Elliott to want to propose before discussing
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Speaker 1: whether or not they want a shared biological child. I
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Speaker 1: am glad that Kat said in this episode that it
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Speaker 1: was not something the door was closed on, but rather
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Speaker 1: something to discuss instead of dragging that out as a
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Speaker 1: source of tension between them. Though for the first time,
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Speaker 1: it does make me think that Kac could be their kid.
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Speaker 1: I know, I'm like pointing a finger in the air
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Speaker 1: right now. That is really interesting. Finally, Michelle wade in
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Speaker 1: she says in season three, episode ten, Alice goes back
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Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety nine where she plays the mash game
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Speaker 1: with Kat Elliott. Elliott tells Kat she will have one child.
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Speaker 1: She says, I hope it's a girl. Kat isn't having
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Speaker 1: more kids. Hmmm. This also brings me to the question
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Speaker 1: of I need to know was this entire storyline planned
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Speaker 1: out in loose details ahead of time or are we
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Speaker 1: just adding because that Shoe will have one kid. Works
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Speaker 1: really nicely for the Cat and Alice storyline, but as
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Speaker 1: we start building on it. Yeah, you know, a mash
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Speaker 1: game is not a blood prophecy. Sure, I mean, otherwise
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Speaker 1: I'd be living in a mansion with ten kids from
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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise or something. You know. Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think these are convenient points that happened in previous seasons.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that big fans remember and I don't, so, I
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Speaker 1: mean I remember it when they say it and you know,
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Speaker 1: I just I'm still very curious about Casey and what
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Speaker 1: their story is. And please come back on Monday after
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Speaker 1: our discussion of episode four and my frustration. Yeah, let's
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Speaker 1: take a ack break and we'll come right back to
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Speaker 1: talk about Fern. All right, y'all had some thoughts about Fern.
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Speaker 1: Aaron says, I think Ern is working with Cliff. She
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Speaker 1: seems to be very calculated in her moves after Cliff
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Speaker 1: tipped her off that there was going to be a raid.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps she drugged Cat to keep her safe somehow. Francisco says,
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Speaker 1: who would have thought happy to go? LOOKI Fern would
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Speaker 1: roofy someone. Fern is red flags for me, and I
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Speaker 1: hate that, but I'm hoping that changes along the way.
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Speaker 1: Jen says, I did not see Fern poisoning slash drugging
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Speaker 1: Cat coming. What a surprise. I wonder if Fern is
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Speaker 1: not as good or helpful as she seems, or if
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Speaker 1: this will end up being like Susannah being mean to
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Speaker 1: Cat last season and it turns out it's to protect Cat. Hmmm.
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Speaker 1: I could totally see that happening. Remind me something about
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Speaker 1: Susannah in just a moment. Okay, Michelle says the jury
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Speaker 1: is still out on Fern, but I think they're trying
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Speaker 1: to make us think badly of Fern to divert our
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Speaker 1: attention from something or someone else. We know that Cat
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Speaker 1: and Fern are filmed during the Silent Movie and seem
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Speaker 1: like friends. We also know that nineteen seventy four nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy five Fern is happy to see Cat. We also
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Speaker 1: know from the preview for next week's episode that nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy eight Fern is not happy to see nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: eight Tessa. It's totally plausible that Fern is trying to
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Speaker 1: divert attention or keep Cats safe, but it's coming off
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Speaker 1: as very kind of classic homework with like a Red Herring, Right, sure,
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Speaker 1: are we missing something else? Maybe? What were your thoughts
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Speaker 1: on Susannah? So this is very loosely related, but in
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Speaker 1: one of the Way Home Facebook groups, someone posted a
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Speaker 1: screenshot that was posted by maybe Beyonca Melchior. I don't
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Speaker 1: remember it. It was like a quick little reel of
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Speaker 1: a bunch of the cast and it was like, I
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Speaker 1: think they were like watching episode three together and they
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Speaker 1: showed them coming in the door and the first scene
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Speaker 1: it's the actors who play Kat Young Fern and Susanna.
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Speaker 1: So maybe they're just friends with Susanna now because Susannah
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Speaker 1: was on the show. Oh yeah, then everyone was like,
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Speaker 1: is Susannah coming back for Suason four? Wow? How would
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Speaker 1: they be friends? How would they even know each other?
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Speaker 1: Like other than like Cat and Susannah were filming the
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Speaker 1: show together, like yeah, but Kyler Lee and yeah, yeah
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Speaker 1: I know that. But like was Fern in the photo too,
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Speaker 1: Fern yeaues Bianca was in the photo too, And it
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Speaker 1: could be just who knows, Like Kat could Kat, Kyler
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Speaker 1: could have introduced them, you know, or Kyler could have
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Speaker 1: just invited Susanna. Maybe she's local. I don't I don't
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Speaker 1: have any idea. There's no context to this. It's just
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Speaker 1: like a cute little and then the next scene is
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Speaker 1: like some of the younger characters and it's you know,
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Speaker 1: Tessa and Alice and got Evie. But anyway, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what Susannah doing there. I don't know. Hmmm.
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Speaker 1: Michelle wrote in about Fern's song theory the her Riddle,
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Speaker 1: m Michelle wrotees, I have one other theory about Fern's
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Speaker 1: song twenty five. First to arrive twenty five, never tried,
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Speaker 1: sixty five, that they died sixty five, still alive. I
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Speaker 1: think it has something to do with Kat. She's named
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Speaker 1: me all the years that Kat the White Witch has
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Speaker 1: been spotted. It's like in season three, episode ten, when
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Speaker 1: Colton put it together. So I have no idea. My
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Speaker 1: brain in this current season has been twisted into knots
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Speaker 1: yeah over and over again. Look, this is just as
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Speaker 1: possible as anything else at this point, because they're not
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Speaker 1: they're not given us enough. So maybe yeah, and all
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Speaker 1: the numbers in this I know, I know that they
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Speaker 1: would be this age and they travel back to this
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Speaker 1: time and now they're the No. I just I almost
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Speaker 1: wonder if they're like, just just say it really fast
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Speaker 1: and they're not going to have time to focus on it,
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Speaker 1: and they're just gonna go with it. The reason I
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Speaker 1: like this theory is the Lingermore mural that Kat bumped
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Speaker 1: on when she was at the party with Fern and
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Speaker 1: the White Witch is in that. Something about the White
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Speaker 1: Witch lore I think has got to be coming back
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Speaker 1: into play. I'm sure so, yeah, I know. No. The
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Speaker 1: other thing y'all let us up about was our Tainted
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Speaker 1: Love commentary h here we go. Michelle says Tainted Love
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Speaker 1: is a song composed by Ed Cobb, formerly of the
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Speaker 1: American group The Four Preps, which was originally recorded by
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Speaker 1: Gloria Jones in nineteen sixty four. The nineteen eighty one
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Speaker 1: version of Soft Cell was a cover of that song.
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Speaker 1: M Lance says, I had no idea it was a
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Speaker 1: cover of a nineteen sixty four song, which raises lots
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Speaker 1: of fun questions for the show. Does it Lance White
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Speaker 1: throwing shade at Lance? I'm not throwing shade at Lance.
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I feel so like, Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: that's just I thought I had it all figured out
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Speaker 1: last week, and then of course we get eighty emails
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Speaker 1: about no, this was actually a cover in eighty one
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Speaker 1: as well. So okay, go ahead? Is that Lance is
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Speaker 1: very much team Wendy in this one? Like I didn't
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Speaker 1: know either? Go ahead? Did Fern learn the eighties version
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Speaker 1: of the sixties version? Since it plays over a flashback
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Speaker 1: memory for Dell, does she know the song or was
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Speaker 1: it just used in the episode? Does set up Ferne's
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Speaker 1: performance was a Della goth mom in the eighties? We
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Speaker 1: raising yeah, just because it was originally at nineteen sixty
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Speaker 1: four song. Obviously, the soft cell version is the more
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Speaker 1: well known one, and it is the one that plays
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Speaker 1: on the show, so it's entirely possible that's the version
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Speaker 1: we're working with. But never mind, Michelle says, Tessa or
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Speaker 1: Griffin could have taught Ern this song in the twenties. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let me just sit with that for a second. Tessa
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Speaker 1: bur Griffin, Yeah, I guess, I guess they could. If
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Speaker 1: that's if that's where they jump, If if that's where
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Speaker 1: they jump, we do not know the answer to that question.
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Speaker 1: But our did they teach her the eighties version or
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Speaker 1: did they come through the nineteen sixty four version. Either
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Speaker 1: one would be fine because they left wows a oh.
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Speaker 1: The next subject matter is the Boulder and Stormy the horse.
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Speaker 1: Brittany wrote in She writes, there was a very prominent
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Speaker 1: feature in the setting that has been popping up in mini.
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Speaker 1: A scene a boulder. Alice finds tessa suitcase at its base.
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Speaker 1: Alice later hides behind it when she spots Lewis at
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Speaker 1: the picnic and Fern finds her there. Also, Stormy spooks
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Speaker 1: right when they're passing by the boulder. Perhaps there's a
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Speaker 1: person near the boulder hiding and Stormy heard them. Mmmm yeah,
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Speaker 1: I you know the boulder s it's at the base
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Speaker 1: of the trail that leads to the pond, right, Yes,
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Speaker 1: but it is kind of interesting that for me, back
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Speaker 1: when Alice was going to hide her little time capsule,
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Speaker 1: that's the place she chose and then found Tessa's suitcase.
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Speaker 1: The boulder never like stuck out to me prior to that.
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Speaker 1: But I know there has been some commentary about, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's where Alison Noah had to kiss her. I'm not
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Speaker 1: exactly sure the details, but not Noah nick oh nick. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but someone had said, no, that boulder, like where Alice
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Speaker 1: was burying Tessa's suitcase, was by the cove. But it's
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Speaker 1: not because their kiss was by the cove. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: by the pond anyway. There was also someone who commented
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Speaker 1: that this is near the area where Jacob's shoes were found.
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Speaker 1: Oh just I always have to like pause and sit
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Speaker 1: here and like let this stuff process. Uh huh. Lindsay
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Speaker 1: also wrote in she writes the horse is back. Ah,
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Speaker 1: you called it, didn't it freak out right by the
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Speaker 1: rock where Alice found Tessa's suitcase. Yes, I believe that
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Speaker 1: is the same big Boulder rock in question. I just
16:51
Speaker 1: like to point out that Lindsay's email was an all
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Speaker 1: caps subject line, you were right and just nothing makes
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Speaker 1: me happier. We're not right about much these but uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, the horse has some sort of meaning. You're
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Speaker 1: so funny, even this freaking horse. Every time I see
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Speaker 1: it's freaking horse. The horse is in this week's episode two,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, freaking horse, Yeah, freaking horse, freaking horse.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the Pond and some time
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Speaker 1: travel rules. Aaron says, what's up with the rules? We know,
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Speaker 1: they all know them, say they can't break them. But
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Speaker 1: what happens if they break them? Nothing being known as
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Speaker 1: a rule breaker. Good point. Alissa says, not being able
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Speaker 1: to travel to the future is not just an Elliot rule.
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Speaker 1: The show has consistently shown us that the Pond does
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Speaker 1: not allow future time travel. Elliott in nineteen ninety nine
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Speaker 1: was not able to follow Alice to twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 1: Susannah and Thomas from eighteen fourteen and eighteen sixteen were
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Speaker 1: not able to follow cat slash Jacob to twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four and twenty twenty five, respectively. I mean, but Elliott
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Speaker 1: is the one who articulated that, Yes, he's the one who,
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Speaker 1: based on Evan, has decided that that's the case, right exactly. Also,
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Speaker 1: I was wondering back to Aaron's email about like, what's
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Speaker 1: up the rules? Well, maybe like the Pond punishes them somehow,
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Speaker 1: if you know, the Ferns reach out and yeah, Mackham,
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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this future time travel thing a lot,
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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm willing to allow that maybe future time
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Speaker 1: travel is going to be unlocked in this season, although
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Speaker 1: we were nearly halfway through and it is not. I
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Speaker 1: kind of like the idea that we're not messing with
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Speaker 1: future time travel, like we're just something about the title
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Speaker 1: of the show, just dealing with our past, the things
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Speaker 1: that have made us. It's interesting to me fair, Aaron
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Speaker 1: says nineteen twenty six. Fern says the pond has been
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Speaker 1: passed down parent to child for a long time. Why
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Speaker 1: did the passing down stop? Was it passed down to
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Speaker 1: Griffin who darted and Colton just wasn't told fully what
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Speaker 1: power the pond had because his dad was a wall Hmmm,
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Speaker 1: And Jen says Fern's great grandfather spoke of the pond
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Speaker 1: openly starting a tradition of it being passed down from
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Speaker 1: parent to child. This would mean that at least within
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Speaker 1: the family they talk about time travel. Maybe just Jacob's story,
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Speaker 1: even though they removed him from the almanac. See sometimes
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Speaker 1: when we get dialogue and Fern is telling us this
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff, right, sometimes I'm like, is this just
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Speaker 1: dialogue or is this something that I'm supposed to pay
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Speaker 1: attention to. Sure, my brain can't put it together in
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Speaker 1: terms of, like, you know, parent a child and then
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Speaker 1: where did the missing link go? You know, because oh
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Speaker 1: wait a second, well, oh wait a second, because if
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Speaker 1: oh hold on, hold on, Okay, I'm going to reserve
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Speaker 1: my thought, but I'm gonna have to write it down
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Speaker 1: because I'm going to circle back to it at some
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Speaker 1: point in the future. Okay, Next, we're talking about Sam
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Speaker 1: and Jacob, Alyssa says. Towards the end of the season
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Speaker 1: three episode finale, we saw Dell make a similar call
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Speaker 1: to Sam as Kat had with Elliott in the pilot episode.
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Speaker 1: She was saying that Jacob left and Sam was standing
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Speaker 1: by the pond, saying everything will be okay. He just
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Speaker 1: knows this is exactly what happened. In the pilot episode
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Speaker 1: with Kat and Elliott talking about Alice. Yeah, it's a
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Speaker 1: nice parallel, it is, Michelle writes in season three episode seven,
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Speaker 1: Damn Michelle with like the receipts throughout this.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: In season three episode seven, Rita and Dell have a
20:39
Speaker 1: conversation about Sam visiting his grandchildren. Rita tells Dell Sam
20:44
Speaker 1: is going to Toronto to keep someone in prison from
20:47
Speaker 1: getting out. I'm more concerned about who he wants to
20:50
Speaker 1: keep in prison? Is it Griffin question mark? Hmm? Is
20:55
Speaker 1: that where the letters are coming from? Hmm? In person,
21:02
Speaker 1: I'm that could be a possibility. You know, the horse
21:05
Speaker 1: in prison at this point, the horse typing the letters
21:15
Speaker 1: for a new rote. My best theory is that Sam
21:17
Speaker 1: used to be Evelyn's hippie poet husband. He probably sees
21:21
Speaker 1: something he can't n see or feels indebted to the
21:23
Speaker 1: Landrys because one of them saves his life or reputation
21:26
Speaker 1: when he gets in over his head. I am gonna say,
21:30
Speaker 1: I don't think we see Evelyn's hippie husband ash ever again,
21:35
Speaker 1: we're done with him. I think. So it's just a
21:37
Speaker 1: weirdo and it sets up Lewis being yep fatherless Yep, yeah,
21:43
Speaker 1: I don't hate that theory. I don't hate that theory.
21:46
Speaker 1: Let's let's play a voicemail.
21:49
Speaker 2: Hey Megan A and Hey, Wendy is super fan Wayne,
21:52
Speaker 2: and I'm happy that we can hang out together by
21:56
Speaker 2: the pond again.
21:57
Speaker 1: Episode three.
21:58
Speaker 2: I feel like this one was really heavy into the
22:02
Speaker 2: time travel ripple effects. We're starting to really kind of
22:05
Speaker 2: feel it Alice going full circle when Fern says they're
22:09
Speaker 2: growing up without you. She's realizing that the same thing
22:12
Speaker 2: that happened in the nineties is happening in the seventies
22:15
Speaker 2: and eventually she's got to stop visiting because she's still
22:17
Speaker 2: going to be little baby Alice and they're going to
22:19
Speaker 2: be old again. So this is agat little full circle
22:23
Speaker 2: for her. And while all that's going on, Cat and
22:25
Speaker 2: Elliott are like, hey, let's go to a cabin no notice,
22:29
Speaker 2: middle of the crisis, while Alice is literally time traveling.
22:33
Speaker 2: They're going to go away and get cut off. Only
22:35
Speaker 2: those two make that decision, which, by the way, brings
22:39
Speaker 2: me to Elliott Wendy. I am team Wendy on this.
22:44
Speaker 2: This dude is struggling. I'm officially calling him TS Elliott
22:48
Speaker 2: from now on for tantrums and spirals.
22:53
Speaker 1: That's all it does.
22:54
Speaker 2: So give me nineties Elliot all day long, adult Elliott.
22:58
Speaker 2: He can't handle it right now. Meanwhile, the way Griffin
23:01
Speaker 2: was totally clocking Alice running to the bond, and I
23:05
Speaker 2: just I think he knows.
23:06
Speaker 1: Way more than he's letting on.
23:08
Speaker 2: He didn't mistakenly think that she was Dell. He knows
23:11
Speaker 2: who she is because he's a part of the bigger picture,
23:14
Speaker 2: I think eventually. But Kat, by the way, jumping in
23:17
Speaker 2: with powered texting, what is that?
23:19
Speaker 1: I've never heard that before in my life.
23:21
Speaker 2: I lost it when she said it, and I have
23:23
Speaker 2: no idea what that means. We get to Tainted Love?
23:27
Speaker 2: Why is this not the title of the episode? We
23:29
Speaker 2: got first singing tainted Love, and it completely threw me.
23:33
Speaker 1: I was loving it.
23:34
Speaker 2: I did not expect the twenties.
23:36
Speaker 1: Twist on soft cell.
23:38
Speaker 2: So the last couple of things Max with the line,
23:42
Speaker 2: is this why you're always kind of damp? Oh my gosh,
23:46
Speaker 2: finally somebody said it, and these people are walking around.
23:48
Speaker 1: Wet all the time. It was the line of the episode.
23:51
Speaker 2: I loved it. Everybody else is getting really sharp writing,
23:55
Speaker 2: except my guy T S Eliot. Oh and then, by
23:57
Speaker 2: the way, I'm calling out the same shot that everybody
24:00
Speaker 2: else is calling. Tessa is definitely the fortune teller. We'll
24:03
Speaker 2: find that out soon. In sam My hot take Sam
24:07
Speaker 2: not secretly anybody. He's just Sam, but he's connected to
24:10
Speaker 2: all of this somehow. So just mark my words, Sam
24:14
Speaker 2: is just Sam. We're overthinking it. We're going to find
24:16
Speaker 2: out who he is soon. And that's about it.
24:19
Speaker 1: Love you guys, talk to you soon. Oh. My only
24:22
Speaker 1: thought is power texting is something I've never heard either,
24:24
Speaker 1: And I was like, I wonder if they meant to say,
24:28
Speaker 1: like rage texting, but like Hallmark's like, mmm, you know,
24:32
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's a term I'm familiar with. Sure,
24:36
Speaker 1: but power texting, I don't. I don't what agree agree.
24:41
Speaker 1: I would like to point out that Wayne mentioned something
24:43
Speaker 1: that no, we didn't mention in last episode. I've had
24:50
Speaker 1: it on my notes and I don't know why it
24:51
Speaker 1: didn't come up. But when Griffin comes home when Alice
24:54
Speaker 1: runs off, he does like a little bit of like
24:56
Speaker 1: a nod when she runs into the woods, and it's
25:00
Speaker 1: almost like, h a fellow time travel or at least
25:04
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're operating under the belief that
25:07
Speaker 1: Griffin was the one who traveled with Tessa. So I
25:10
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting, that's all. Yeah. I don't think
25:12
Speaker 1: he was like, where are you going. I think he
25:14
Speaker 1: was like, I'll see what you're doing. I'll see you. Yeah. Yeah.
25:18
Speaker 1: More emails about Griffin. Francisco writes, I was disappointed in
25:23
Speaker 1: the Griffin reveal. We got what five minutes. I felt
25:26
Speaker 1: we waited a week for nothing. We learned more about Tessa.
25:30
Speaker 1: I agree, and it makes me wonder are they trying
25:35
Speaker 1: to divert all our attention to Tessa when, like, Griffin
25:37
Speaker 1: is really what we should be looking at. I was
25:41
Speaker 1: disappointed too, like we don't get enough Griffin. It's all
25:43
Speaker 1: Tessa all the time. Yeah. I wonder if it's going
25:46
Speaker 1: to stay the case, if Griffin's going to be just
25:48
Speaker 1: like this peripheral character, because it certainly has been up
25:51
Speaker 1: to this point. They've referenced him a few times, but
25:54
Speaker 1: until this episode, we really didn't know much about him. Yeah,
25:56
Speaker 1: we've not this episode this season. Yeah, sure, definitely this season.
26:01
Speaker 1: I mean, to this point in the series, we've barely
26:03
Speaker 1: known anything about him, and then you know, this big
26:05
Speaker 1: reveal and we get like three seconds, you know nothing.
26:09
Speaker 1: Jen writes, interesting that the last anyone could find about
26:13
Speaker 1: Griffin was in the early two thousands, So he was
26:17
Speaker 1: around during Kat's life but didn't come to visit it seems.
26:21
Speaker 1: I wonder if he found out about Colton's death and
26:24
Speaker 1: didn't see a point of visiting or even leaving a
26:26
Speaker 1: trace of himself in the present anymore. Yeah, why doesn't
26:31
Speaker 1: Kat know him at all? Yeah, he was alive during
26:35
Speaker 1: her lifetime, because Griffin didn't come around U till season three? Yeah? No,
26:42
Speaker 1: I don't know if Griffin was talked about before season three.
26:44
Speaker 1: I can't even remember at this point. So did Colton
26:48
Speaker 1: have a brother? From the jump? I don't remember from
26:53
Speaker 1: the jump? Okay, Brittany writes, Griffin looks absolutely nothing like
26:58
Speaker 1: Errol Flynn, who was clean shaven and blonde. What might
27:02
Speaker 1: Fern have meant by the swashbuckling comparison? Question mark, Fern
27:08
Speaker 1: really wanted Alice to stay, and she seemed to be
27:11
Speaker 1: hinting particularly strong at a family reunion when Alice begged off,
27:16
Speaker 1: But Griffin looked very fondly towards Alice as she was
27:19
Speaker 1: running away. Does he already know her? Good question? Finally,
27:26
Speaker 1: Brittany wrote, has anyone floated the thought that Griffin and
27:29
Speaker 1: Colton are twins? If not identical, then fraternal. My theory
27:34
Speaker 1: is that they are the sons of Inspector Cliff Kane.
27:39
Speaker 1: The sons. Well that's interesting because, oh, is that possible?
27:44
Speaker 1: Fern is their grandmother? Right? Yes? So are they the
27:51
Speaker 1: grandsons of inspector? Can't what my brain hurts? We don't
27:58
Speaker 1: know their mom, right, No, we don't. And do we
28:02
Speaker 1: know their dad? No? So you can Tessa and Griffin
28:08
Speaker 1: any do you have any thoughts on this Griffin Colton
28:12
Speaker 1: twin potential or that Inspector Caine is somehow their father? Well?
28:21
Speaker 1: I don't understand how Inspector Kane could be their father
28:24
Speaker 1: in the twenties unless he's a time traveler. Yeah, that
28:29
Speaker 1: doesn't Yeah, that doesn't work for me. But maybe there's
28:31
Speaker 1: something that I'm missing here. Could they be twins? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah?
28:35
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know either. Jessica writes in
28:38
Speaker 1: about the Clock and watches, She says we're forgetting that
28:43
Speaker 1: Tessa or someone for her. Maybe Griffin left the clock
28:47
Speaker 1: in the wall at the Augustine House at some point
28:50
Speaker 1: long ago. Also Griffin gives a pocket watch to Colton.
28:55
Speaker 1: Is he some sort of watch slash clockmaker or repair person?
28:58
Speaker 1: This would link him to the clock as well. After all,
29:01
Speaker 1: someone needs to know how to make it play at
29:03
Speaker 1: eleven eleven. I definitely think, like the clocks in the
29:07
Speaker 1: pocket watch, they need something. They mean something. I don't know.
29:14
Speaker 1: I don't know. We are in the too many questions
29:18
Speaker 1: phase of this for sure situation. For sure. Jen just
29:23
Speaker 1: says you were right about it being eleven eleven and
29:25
Speaker 1: the wishes. It also seems like Victor recognizes the clock
29:28
Speaker 1: even before the eleven eleven reveal, but maybe not. No,
29:32
Speaker 1: I think he got like eyes on it before. Did
29:34
Speaker 1: it sound off yet? Yeah? I can't remember, Yes, I remember.
29:39
Speaker 1: Next up is the Augustine Boye slash Grayson. Lindsey writes,
29:43
Speaker 1: the Augie Boys said we got to get rid of them.
29:47
Speaker 1: The boss don't want problems. We need to handle them tonight.
29:52
Speaker 1: It sounded like them, and that's what my subtitle said
29:55
Speaker 1: more than one person, and is Grayson their boss? Hey
29:59
Speaker 1: shout out to a fellow subtitle watcher, Sir Yeah. Michelle wrote,
30:05
Speaker 1: I think the Augie Boys are plotting to get rid
30:07
Speaker 1: of Cliff or Grayson, Okay, totally plausible. And Jessica row,
30:13
Speaker 1: is there some sort of connection there between the nineteen
30:16
Speaker 1: twenty five Aggies and either Griffin or Tessa girl, I
30:20
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just a giant shrug emoji at this point.
30:22
Speaker 1: I'm done, no too, I don't know. Let's talk about
30:26
Speaker 1: Casey and the ring. Jen says, I think Casey will
30:30
Speaker 1: be upset throw the ring in the pond and jump
30:33
Speaker 1: in after it. I think it's clear that it shows
30:35
Speaker 1: the future connection between Fern and Tessa, though I do
30:39
Speaker 1: wonder if the bracelet is important enough to Fern that
30:41
Speaker 1: if it were to fall into the pond she would
30:44
Speaker 1: jump in after it. Jen comes back and says, I'll
30:48
Speaker 1: come back to this, but I think Alice is going
30:50
Speaker 1: to give Casey the ring because Alice is done with
30:53
Speaker 1: time traveling and knows that Casey has that ahead of
30:57
Speaker 1: them as what like proof to show who they are
31:01
Speaker 1: or how they're connected. Well maybe, and because Alice has
31:03
Speaker 1: seen Casey with the ring, Alice will know to give
31:06
Speaker 1: them the ring, right right? I don't know. Once again,
31:15
Speaker 1: I think the episode artwork for this should just be
31:17
Speaker 1: a giant shrug emoji. Yeah, That's totally how I feel.
31:21
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. Can I just watch the
31:23
Speaker 1: rest of this season find out at this point?
31:26
Speaker 2: Right?
31:27
Speaker 1: And I'm a little bit worried. To be completely honest,
31:31
Speaker 1: are we going to get answers to all this stuff satisfactory? Lensa,
31:34
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, because if I could
31:38
Speaker 1: jump on my soapbox for a second, I feel considering
31:43
Speaker 1: we've seen episode four and I feel like at this
31:50
Speaker 1: point in the season, like the writers did not know
31:53
Speaker 1: their series was coming to an end, and now knowing
31:58
Speaker 1: that with that perspective, I feel like, I'm like, what
32:01
Speaker 1: is happening? What is happening? Like we're not getting the
32:04
Speaker 1: closure that I would be expecting. Right, So that's okay.
32:10
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Tessa. Aaron writes, Tessa seems to hesitate
32:14
Speaker 1: when asked what brought her to Port Haven. I wonder
32:17
Speaker 1: if Tessa's part of one of the three founding families.
32:21
Speaker 1: She told Alice she felt a connection to Port Haven
32:23
Speaker 1: and she was a fellow wayward soul. Jen writes, Do
32:26
Speaker 1: we think Tessa made it back to the present to
32:28
Speaker 1: get sick and die or was she stuck in the
32:31
Speaker 1: past and just was able to get a letter to
32:33
Speaker 1: the future, maybe with the help of Alice the messenger. Hmmm,
32:39
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Yeah, I would think it would be weird if, like,
32:45
Speaker 1: I don't think Tessa's dead. Yeah, if they killed Tessa
32:47
Speaker 1: somewhere not killed to go through all of this, Yeah,
32:51
Speaker 1: Urt just be dead. Yeah, don't love it. Yeah, let's
32:55
Speaker 1: talk about Alice. Brittany says. Alice never seems to be
32:57
Speaker 1: appreciating the moment she's already in, but is longing for
32:59
Speaker 1: the past past and grieving it. Yeah. I would agree
33:03
Speaker 1: that Alice lives a richer life in the past than
33:05
Speaker 1: she does in the present. Yeah, that's so sad.
33:08
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
33:09
Speaker 1: Francisco says, once again, she makes friends in the past
33:11
Speaker 1: and has to abandon them. The issues seem different here
33:13
Speaker 1: than in previous seasons as well. Not only are ev
33:16
Speaker 1: dell and Colton aging, but their lives are going through
33:18
Speaker 1: massive changes. Evie is a mom and Dellan Colton are
33:21
Speaker 1: having trouble having a child. These are real adult issues
33:24
Speaker 1: a teen can't completely relate to, and Jen says, I
33:28
Speaker 1: wonder if its just setting her up for being ready
33:31
Speaker 1: to go away to college and actually moving on from
33:34
Speaker 1: time traveling. They're all good thoughts. I don't. I think
33:38
Speaker 1: as long as this show exists, time traveling exists. And
33:41
Speaker 1: so if we were to get a season five and
33:43
Speaker 1: Alice were to go to college, the Gilmore Girls handled
33:46
Speaker 1: Rory going to college very well, I think, in the
33:49
Speaker 1: sense that they were able to keep the show going
33:51
Speaker 1: without their two main characters living in the same place.
33:54
Speaker 1: So I would I would like to think that where
33:57
Speaker 1: there's a way home, Alice is still time traveling for sure.
34:02
Speaker 1: Alice the one, the one. Let's talk about Vic. Wow,
34:08
Speaker 1: is this the first time Vic has ever made the
34:10
Speaker 1: mail bag? No, because he's such a jerk, We've gotten
34:13
Speaker 1: it before. Jen writes, Is it making me feel sorry
34:17
Speaker 1: or maybe even sympathetic towards Victor Augustine? I think the
34:21
Speaker 1: episode ends with me feeling sympathy for him, but it
34:24
Speaker 1: was still on him the adult, to be there for
34:27
Speaker 1: Elliott in ways we know he was not very true,
34:32
Speaker 1: very true. I felt. That's how I felt at the
34:34
Speaker 1: end of episode three two. I was like, I feel
34:36
Speaker 1: sad for Vic, but he was terrible. He was terrible.
34:40
Speaker 1: You have to be the parent in this situation. Yeah,
34:42
Speaker 1: and yeah, I don't care if you're hurt too. You
34:46
Speaker 1: gotta book up. Lindsay writes, I was glad that Dell
34:50
Speaker 1: at least called Vic out at the very beginning of
34:52
Speaker 1: their conversation for not delivering the letter from Kat all
34:55
Speaker 1: those years ago that literally impacted their entire life. Yeah. Yeah,
35:02
Speaker 1: it's nice when there's like these very small like callback
35:08
Speaker 1: like even in that episode when she's like they sat
35:11
Speaker 1: down to dinner and she's like, not a dry biscuit
35:13
Speaker 1: on a table or whatever, which is a callback to
35:15
Speaker 1: an insult he gave to her at one point about
35:19
Speaker 1: her dry biscuit. Oh yeah, So I love when there's like,
35:23
Speaker 1: I wouldn't eat your dry biscuit, del Landry. Yeah, exactly,
35:27
Speaker 1: exactly nice. Brittany writes in with a theory about the wedding.
35:31
Speaker 1: She says, I don't believe that the wedding teas in
35:32
Speaker 1: the Way Home season four, episode one is actually Elliott
35:35
Speaker 1: and Kat's. My best guess is that it may be
35:37
Speaker 1: sam Bishop and Delilah's wedding. Oh well, who were they hoping?
35:42
Speaker 1: Was there for that? I don't know, Jacob, But why
35:46
Speaker 1: are they looking at the pond Jacobs in Toronto? I
35:51
Speaker 1: think they're coming back from somewhere next we have It
35:54
Speaker 1: Happened when Brittany writes, I highly recommend that you both
35:57
Speaker 1: watch Frank Capra's It Happened one Night. It will illuminate
36:01
Speaker 1: the whole leg bearing to the hitchhike scenes. I'm absolutely
36:06
Speaker 1: certain there will be lots of parallels with Capra's film,
36:09
Speaker 1: as there already have been loads. We didn't talk about
36:13
Speaker 1: that at all last week with like cat and for
36:17
Speaker 1: trying to hitchhike basically by right showing their sexy legs.
36:23
Speaker 1: I've never seen it happen one night, have you never?
36:26
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that that there's parallels. You know. Look,
36:31
Speaker 1: I'm freaking watching The Count of Monte Cristo right now
36:33
Speaker 1: because it was reference in a Hallmark movie, So anything
36:36
Speaker 1: is possible. On my check out, it happened one night,
36:39
Speaker 1: all right. We have a couple comments on the pace
36:40
Speaker 1: of the episode. Brittany says this episode seemed to be
36:43
Speaker 1: rushing through time like crazy, almost like they stuffed three
36:46
Speaker 1: or four episodes into one. A men, Brittany and Lindsay
36:50
Speaker 1: says every second counts, which makes episodes go by too fast.
36:53
Speaker 1: Don't blink or you'll literally miss clues. Yeah, try taking
36:57
Speaker 1: notes throughout it takes me two hours to watch a
37:01
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