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Hawks Live With Julian Neal, Emanuel Wilson & More · Hawk Talk

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  Speaker 1: This is Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District at
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  Speaker 1: the Bellevue Collection.
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  Speaker 2: Throw downfield, wide open, touchdown, Seahawks!
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  Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from Bellevue Square Center Court, here's your host,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus.
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  Speaker 3: You are listening to Hawks Live, presented by the Dining
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  Speaker 3: District at the Bellevue Collection. The show starts at 7
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  Speaker 3: every Thursday right here on Seattle Sports 710. Broadcasting live
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  Speaker 3: from Bellevue Square Center Court, I got my guy Paul
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  Speaker 3: Moyer back. He was on the Champions Tour.
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  Speaker 4: Golf Tour. He was on the Champions Tour.
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  Speaker 5: How'd you do? I did well. Actually, I won it.
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  Speaker 6: Did you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was good.
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  Speaker 4: You waited all this time and didn't tell me?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't tell you everything.
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  Speaker 4: You're humble, huh?
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  Speaker 5: I don't tell you everything.
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  Speaker 4: You should. I don't know why you don't.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for asking. We should tell the audience that that's
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  Speaker 5: not true. The Champions Tour is, they're in the off-season
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  Speaker 5: right now. So, yes, I didn't lose. How's that?
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  Speaker 4: Didn't lose. I like that.
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  Speaker 3: And, hey, thank you to the crowd. First lost since November, what,
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  Speaker 3: 16th or something like that. And you guys are still
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  Speaker 3: out here supporting your guys.
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  Speaker 4: I do a show. There we go.
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  Speaker 3: I do a show weekly Monday to Friday, 10 to 2,
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  Speaker 3: Bump and Stacey. Brenda's husband is our producer. And you
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  Speaker 3: would be amazed with just the, not the hate, but
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  Speaker 3: like the concern that we get from the text lines.
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  Speaker 4: I understand a loss is a loss, and you should
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  Speaker 4: be a bit concerned.
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  Speaker 3: But if you look at the way that they lost Moyer,
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  Speaker 3: then you know you you feel okay you don't accept
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  Speaker 3: losses but you're not.
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  Speaker 5: Panicking look we we dominated the game it's just it
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  Speaker 5: goes to show you you still have to make plays
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  Speaker 5: and anybody can beat you that we beat them 98
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  Speaker 5: out of 100 times i believe that three turnovers to
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  Speaker 5: none really four because we went for it on fourth
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  Speaker 5: down and didn't score there so it's really four turnovers
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  Speaker 5: to me um Still had a chance to win like
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  Speaker 5: we always do at the end if we just play
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  Speaker 5: a few things a little bit better technique-wise. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to tell you kind of a funny story. I
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  Speaker 5: think it's funny. So if you guys remember back, when
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  Speaker 5: was the last loss before this?
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  Speaker 4: November 16th, I believe.
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  Speaker 5: November 16th when we lost to the Rams down in L.A.
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  Speaker 5: and we turned the ball over. Actually, Sam Darn will
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  Speaker 5: have four interceptions. And I said, after that game, I said,
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks are going to go undefeated. We won't lose another game.
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  Speaker 5: I go, four turnovers. I go, and we still had
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  Speaker 5: a chance to win and should have won. There's not
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  Speaker 5: another team out there that's going to beat us. And
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  Speaker 5: we've got the Rams at home. We're going to run
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  Speaker 5: the table. And we did. Obviously, we won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: So I go to the game. Dave Wyman's got a
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  Speaker 5: bad back, so I fly in. I'm gone for a
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  Speaker 5: couple days. I fly in on Friday afternoon. I get
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  Speaker 5: a text message from our producer, NASA. It's like 12.45,
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  Speaker 5: right when I land. Hey, I need 20 minutes. Can
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  Speaker 5: you make it to Washington, D.C. and do the game tomorrow?
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I probably should ask my wife. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I'll do it. If I can get a flight, and
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  Speaker 5: we get to fly back on a team plane, which
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  Speaker 5: is a great way to travel. So first of all,
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  Speaker 5: I'm in good graces because I call, we're going undefeated,
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  Speaker 5: we win the Super Bowl. There should be a statue
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  Speaker 5: out there for me, right? So I do the game
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  Speaker 5: and Schneider and Chuck Arnold, the president of the company
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  Speaker 5: for the organization, they're great people. So I get on
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  Speaker 5: the plane and Schneider just looks at my head, shakes
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  Speaker 5: his head at me and goes, you're not allowed on
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  Speaker 5: this plane and to do any more games. Chuck Arnold
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  Speaker 5: comes by and goes, you're not allowed to do the
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  Speaker 5: games anymore. He goes, you're out. Not that they're superstitious.
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  Speaker 5: The head of security comes. So they're either all in it,
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  Speaker 5: on it. And so finally, now they come back again
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  Speaker 5: and they do it again. We're up in a 747.
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  Speaker 5: We're up in a top area. It's a tough way
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  Speaker 5: to travel. And finally, I said, well, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 5: And I grabbed John and I said... And I tell
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  Speaker 5: him the story. It's on record. I did the claim
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  Speaker 5: that we're going to go undefeated. So he gave me
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  Speaker 5: a fist pump and said, okay, you're forgiven. So that's
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  Speaker 5: my story. But I'm still not allowed to do any
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  Speaker 5: more games and travel with the team. So that's all
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  Speaker 5: I got.
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  Speaker 4: One flex, 747. Two flex.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't build it.
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  Speaker 4: President Chuck. Three flex, John Snyder.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not around the team much.
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  Speaker 3: Are you done flexing or are we going to do
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  Speaker 3: the show now?
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  Speaker 5: I don't rub elbows with those guys like you do.
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  Speaker 4: I don't at all.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 3: I see John in the parking lot and gave him
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  Speaker 3: the deuce and walk in and do my podcast with
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  Speaker 3: Nassar Chovy.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I do.
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  Speaker 5: Well, there wasn't much to talk about. We didn't make plays,
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  Speaker 5: and we should have won the game.
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  Speaker 4: I feel you.
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  Speaker 3: Raise your hand if you thought Sam Darnold played a
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  Speaker 3: bad game. You guys are smart individuals. He had a
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  Speaker 3: horrible play. One bad play, but my man threw for 379.
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  Speaker 4: A career high. Four touchdowns. One interception was not on him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad you guys are educated Seahawks fans because
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  Speaker 3: he throws that interception, then he drives down the field, Jason, Jason, Jason,
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  Speaker 3: Torrey Horton.
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  Speaker 4: Cooper Cub, and you're in for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: And, Paul, when they scored that touchdown, there was no
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  Speaker 3: doubt in my mind the defense was going to get
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  Speaker 3: a stop and Sam was going to get the football
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  Speaker 3: and punch it in for the win.
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  Speaker 5: I agree. I'm at the game, and you can just
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  Speaker 5: feel it. The commanders, they had no chance to drive
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  Speaker 5: on us 80 yards and score. They had none. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we really were dominating that game. We almost doubled the
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  Speaker 5: yardage on them. You know, the only thing, again, was
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  Speaker 5: unfortunately was the turnovers. And I thought it was Sam's
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  Speaker 5: one of his best games I've ever seen. The way
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  Speaker 5: he moved.
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  Speaker 4: Most he's ever thrown for.
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  Speaker 5: Well, just the way he moved in the pocket and
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  Speaker 5: the decision-making and, again, his accuracy was. The guy hasn't
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  Speaker 5: really played a game since last February. Nothing in preseason.
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  Speaker 5: He plays five snaps in the first game of the season.
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  Speaker 5: And then this one, and it was like, wow. And again,
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  Speaker 5: he just, to me, continues to get better. And people,
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  Speaker 5: for some reason, still dog him. Well, he throws too
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  Speaker 5: many interceptions. And then we saw what was on Sunday
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  Speaker 5: night or Monday night, whenever it was when the Rams
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  Speaker 5: were playing. And they showed Stafford through his 33rd interception
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  Speaker 5: for a touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy. 33.
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  Speaker 5: It's an NFL record. He's going to make it in
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  Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame, and no one even talks about him.
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  Speaker 5: So it just goes to show perception isn't always reality.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is right there. Got to get
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  Speaker 3: the run game going, right? I think that was one,
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  Speaker 3: not a concern, but something that you want to see.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy how things changed the first week. You rushed for, what,
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  Speaker 3: 92 points. The second week, you wish for a buck 62.
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  Speaker 4: And then you hit 44, and the sky is falling.
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  Speaker 4: I understand, right?
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  Speaker 3: You want to see the run game get going. It
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  Speaker 3: started off slow last year, but that's something that needs
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  Speaker 3: to improve. But if there was something that you saw
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  Speaker 3: with this offense or defense that you felt like, other
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  Speaker 3: than a run game, that needs to improve, what did
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  Speaker 3: you see?
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  Speaker 5: Well, let me address the run game first of all.
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  Speaker 5: When they had their true 3-4 defense in, where they
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  Speaker 5: had their nose on our center, and then their two
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  Speaker 5: tackles covering our guards, and then their ends, and then
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  Speaker 5: they dropped the safety down. And I'm looking at nine
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  Speaker 5: guys in a box. We're probably not running the football.
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  Speaker 5: And they were a tough team to run on anyways.
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  Speaker 5: They got three big, huge hogs in the middle. You know, 320,
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  Speaker 5: 330 pounds. Very good. They weren't great pass rushers. And
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  Speaker 5: that was the one thing I loved that Fleury did.
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  Speaker 5: He adjusted. He said, okay, they're going to force us
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  Speaker 5: to throw the ball. They're going to force us to
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  Speaker 5: try and spread it, even though JSN still finds a
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  Speaker 5: way to always get open. I'm not concerned about the
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  Speaker 5: run game. If they want to take that away, I
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  Speaker 5: think Fleury realizes we're just going to have to hurt
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  Speaker 5: them in the pass game, which we did. When you
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  Speaker 5: score over 30 points, Yeah, it's a pretty healthy offense.
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  Speaker 5: So I think Coach McDonald talked about the run game, too.
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  Speaker 5: He said last week it was pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Against the commanders, it wasn't. No panic there. So that,
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  Speaker 5: and I think the other one is on defense, it's
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  Speaker 5: just hard to nitpick it. It's just... We had good
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  Speaker 5: coverage at times, and I have to give Mario to
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  Speaker 5: some credit. He made some great throws. We were playing
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  Speaker 5: a lot of two deep shell, and they were running
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  Speaker 5: corner routes with their slot receiver. The only thing I
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  Speaker 5: would tell the coaching staff and everybody is, we got
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  Speaker 5: to jam that slot. You can't let him have a
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  Speaker 5: free release like that, especially when it's like a third
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  Speaker 5: and six, because they run a guy into the flat,
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  Speaker 5: and the corner who's supposed to slough off and help
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  Speaker 5: get underneath a corner route and give some help underneath
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  Speaker 5: for his safety, He's in a bind. If I get
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  Speaker 5: too deep, that's an easy first down in the flat
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  Speaker 5: or like a seven yard out. And so you got
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  Speaker 5: to jam that slot just to mess up the timing
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  Speaker 5: because that's just too hard on the safety. Other than that,
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  Speaker 5: you just got to make plays. And that's the nature
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  Speaker 5: of the NFL. I don't think we actually played bad.
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  Speaker 5: It was just three turnovers, really four, and didn't make
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  Speaker 5: some timely plays when they did.
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  Speaker 3: Yes or no question for the thousand people who are
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  Speaker 3: sitting here. Is JSN the best receiver in the game?
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  Speaker 3: Best receiver in the game. No doubt about it. My
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  Speaker 3: man goes for the buck 28, buck 55, a buck 28.
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  Speaker 3: He is the best receiver in the game. What impresses
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  Speaker 3: you the most?
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  Speaker 4: A safety. What impresses you the most about JSN?
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  Speaker 5: Well, a lot of people, I've heard, was it Jamar
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  Speaker 5: Chase who said, well, he's not double teamed like I am.
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  Speaker 5: I go, first of all, nobody really gets doubled.
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  Speaker 4: You get a bracket.
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  Speaker 5: You get brackets. And, you know, there's times they'll roll.
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  Speaker 5: you know, a zone over to you and maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 5: void a backside or leave a backside corner man-to-man. It
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  Speaker 5: doesn't matter. The man finds zones open. Even when there
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  Speaker 5: was a bracket, he would stick a route and still
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  Speaker 5: beat the corner to the outside, even though the corner
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  Speaker 5: was outside and knew he had inside help. It's one
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  Speaker 5: of those Steve Largent moves. It's hard to explain, but
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  Speaker 5: your brain just says... I'm vulnerable inside, even though I'm
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be outside, and you bite on it every time.
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  Speaker 5: So my point is, he gets open, and he runs.
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  Speaker 5: great routes. He's got beautiful hands, and obviously it doesn't
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  Speaker 5: matter if it's Locke or Sam Darnold. They both have
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  Speaker 5: such a great connection together.
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  Speaker 3: No, JSN's been doing some things that we've never seen before.
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  Speaker 5: What do you say about it?
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  Speaker 3: I see a guy who is deceptive. He's faster than
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  Speaker 3: what you think. He's not a 4'3 guy. He's probably
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  Speaker 3: a high 4'4 guy. but fast enough. He's good at
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  Speaker 3: filling space and time. I think that is crucial, and
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  Speaker 3: he'll make every single catch that you can, but he
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a drop or two, so let's keep him humble.
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  Speaker 3: You're the best in the game, but you still had
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  Speaker 3: a drop or two.
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  Speaker 4: It's been great watching Jason do his thing.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we're just getting started here on Hawks Live.
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  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll have an opponent preview that
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  Speaker 3: is next here on Hawks Live.
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  Speaker 4: You are listening to Hawks.
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  Speaker 3: Live on Michael Bumpus with my guy, Paul Moya.
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  Speaker 4: He is back.
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  Speaker 3: You know, before we get into this opponent preview, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to ask you the question that our peoples were
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  Speaker 3: asking us. And Paul called the game. Did a great job,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, if you guys didn't listen on radio.
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  Speaker 3: I was like a proud nephew listening to.
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  Speaker 4: My aunt do his thing, man.
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  Speaker 5: It was fun.
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  Speaker 3: What was the turning point of the game for you?
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  Speaker 5: Good or bad?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you choose.
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  Speaker 5: Well, obviously the fumble early on. Just, again, you could
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  Speaker 5: just tell that there was a little physical mismatch. I
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  Speaker 5: just felt that. And if we just could win the
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  Speaker 5: field position battle, we were going to win that game.
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  Speaker 5: And now when you fall behind on the road early,
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  Speaker 5: that catch-up part's hard. You always want to try and
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  Speaker 5: take the lead. That was a big moment. There must
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  Speaker 5: be one in your mind, though.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I said the turning point because there was a
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  Speaker 3: back and forth. I thought it was the pick six.
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  Speaker 3: In that moment, I go, the commanders really believe they
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  Speaker 3: can win this game. I think until that point, they
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  Speaker 3: were like, we think we can win this game. After
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  Speaker 3: the pick six, they're like, we know we're going to
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  Speaker 3: win this game. And my man here said it was
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  Speaker 3: the third and seven that Mariota picked up. All right,
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  Speaker 3: that's a little later in the game, so they sealed
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  Speaker 3: it after that. But for me, it was the pick
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  Speaker 3: six because when you let teams hang around, there has
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  Speaker 3: to be a moment. I mean, I played in games
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  Speaker 3: like that, you played in games like that, whereas you
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  Speaker 3: think you're good enough to beat this team, this might
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  Speaker 3: be your day, and then there's something that happens to
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  Speaker 3: where now the sideline is like, hey, we got these guys.
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  Speaker 4: And I think after that pick six, they felt like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, we got these dudes.
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  Speaker 5: The part that was interesting to me or where I went, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, that's right. Their fans were so into
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  Speaker 5: it at the end of the game. If you were
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  Speaker 5: a fan of the Commanders and watched that game, you said, oh, wow.
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  Speaker 5: We're not at the level of the Seahawks. We're just
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  Speaker 5: not there. All the turnovers and every major play went
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  Speaker 5: their way for them to have a chance to win.
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  Speaker 5: And it dawned on me, I go, oh man, we're
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  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl champs. Every game. So when somebody beats us,
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  Speaker 5: they think, oh, we're a really good team. I thought the...
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  Speaker 5: Because on the broadcast, even when we threw that interception,
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  Speaker 5: I go, this game's not over. We're going to score quick.
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  Speaker 5: And we scored in like five plays. It was like bang, bang, bang, bang.
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  Speaker 6: Five plays, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And it was like, we're still in this thing. Now
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  Speaker 5: we just got to get a stop. And I was
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  Speaker 5: convinced we were going to win. You and I talked
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  Speaker 5: about it. We would have. We just, we should have
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  Speaker 5: had to stop. We just didn't play our techniques right.
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  Speaker 5: And that's frustrating. And when you go as a coach
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  Speaker 5: back and watch a film and say, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 5: we didn't even have to play well to win this game.
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  Speaker 5: And so, really, it's a frustrating loss. It's one I'm
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  Speaker 5: not concerned about, but I go, man, that's a bummer
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  Speaker 5: because the end of this year, our schedule is tough.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we got the Rams, too, the last three games.
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  Speaker 5: We got the 49ers, Philadelphia, Chicago. I mean, it's a
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  Speaker 5: tough schedule at the end, and that's one of those
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  Speaker 5: I really thought we had a chance to start off 5-0.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so now let's focus on these Chargers, man.
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  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, what, his second or third year throws for
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  Speaker 3: 5,000 yards over 30 touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: How long do you think Herbert's been a pro? Your guess.
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  Speaker 5: Six years.
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  Speaker 4: You're better than most. Seven years.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like four or five to me for some reason.
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  Speaker 3: But this year, he hasn't been performing at a high level.
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  Speaker 3: I watched the film, and you see the physical.
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  Speaker 4: He has a great arm. He's mobile.
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  Speaker 3: But there's something missing. His receivers have dropped some footballs
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  Speaker 3: as well. I looked at pro football reference, and they
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: had their receivers dropping three passes. I counted three in
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  Speaker 3: that game alone. against the Bills, right? I give them
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  Speaker 3: three to five passes that they've dropped. And you bring
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  Speaker 3: in Harbaugh, you bring in McDaniel, and you think, okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be the thing to kind of
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  Speaker 3: elevate Justin Herbert, but he's still not able to get
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  Speaker 3: over the hump. What are your thoughts on Herbert, who
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: he is in the NFL, and as a quarterback?
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: Well, I think he's incredibly talented. I mean, you'd want
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  Speaker 5: him on your team. I thought last year he did
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  Speaker 5: make that next step, and I'm just shocked at Harbaugh
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: brought in Mike McDaniels. I've said it, and I've watched him. He,
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  Speaker 5: to me, is that guy who just gets up on
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: the whiteboard, and he's got all these great ideas, and
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: it sounds good until they're in a different defense or
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: someone smacks you in the mouth, and how do we adjust,
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: and the attention to detail that's really intricate. When we
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: played them last year, I said, this is a high
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: school offense. They're doing all these things, but, man, they
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: were such a bad team. And the way that they executed.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: And I look at, again, this year. I go, you
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: got Herbert. He's completing 59% of his passes. 59% of
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: the passes when I was playing would have been like 40%.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: You know, because most guys now are in the mid-60s, high-60s.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: They're even in the 70% range because of the quick
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: passing game. So to me, that's just shocking. Now, they
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: got some injuries and things like that, but I just,
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: this is not a good fit. You know, hardball has
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: always been, to me, an attention to detail. We're going
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: to run the ball. We're tough. We're going to out-execute people,
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: and that's what we saw when the 49ers and Seahawks
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: turned the Legion of Boob time. I don't see that anymore.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: That's just, to me, it's a really weird hire.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Do you know who leads the league in completion percentage?
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: I do not.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Gino Smith.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: 75%. Gino Smith.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Just a side note for you.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: Look.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Just a side note.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Look, we always said, look, Geno's accurate. Geno's good inside
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: the pocket. You can give him protection and some receivers.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Geno can beat you. That was never the issue.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but so going back to the Chargers, they have
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: a decent running back in Amarion Hampton out of University
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: of North Carolina.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: First-round pick last year. They have my fantasy team.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: All right, there you go. They have Trey Harris on
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: the outside. You have Ladd McConkie. You have Quinton Johnston
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: as well. But the offensive line has struggled a little bit.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Your tackle, Joel... Alt, I think his name is?
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Joe Alt has struggled a little bit this year. There's
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: so much talent on this team, but that goes to
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: show that if you cannot mold the talent to run
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: your scheme, then it's going to be tough. How do
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: you think, offensively or defensively, the Hawks should attack these guys?
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Well, offensively, they're averaging 14 first downs a game. Opponents
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: are 25 a game. I mean, that is such a disparity.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think it'll be harder to run. I think
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: they're actually, the Chargers are a pretty good run defense.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I think we're going to have to get them in
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: the air. You know, they don't have as, you know,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Cleo Mack is still there, and I know they were
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: arresting him. So they got some guys who can't get
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: after the quarterback. But we've done a really good job
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: the first three games of protecting, creating a really nice pocket.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go after them. I think it's just
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: going to be a challenge for us to run it.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: They're giving up about 3.9, I think 3.9 yards per carry.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: That's low. in this league. Look, I think it's also
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: one of those teams that are going to still try
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: and stop our run. I think we found out last
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: week is... Okay, we can beat you throwing it, so
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: don't be hesitant. And then, to me, that's kind of
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: what happened in the second game of the season when
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: we did run for about 160 yards. You loosen them
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: up more with the pass, and then you can sit
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: there and make them say, okay, we've got to play
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: more too deep, and we can start gashing them. So that's,
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: to me, it. I think they're going to have a
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: hard time moving the ball on us. Our defense is legit,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: and as long as we don't turn the ball over
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: at home with the 12s, we're going to win this game.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: It's all about matchups, right?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: So the Hawks are fourth in the NFL in yards
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: per pass attempt. The Chargers are allowing 11.3 per completion.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Never heard of that before.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: So Sam Darnold could really get busy this week. Sprinkle
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: in the run, and we should be okay. We shall see.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: All right, when we come up next, you guys don't
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: go anywhere. We got Emmanuel Wilson right here on Hawks Live.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live. I'm Michael Pompous with my guy,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Paul Moya.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: There we go.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: And we out here. We out on these streets, man.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: We got our faithful out here checking us out. My
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: man asked me, he said, do I like the Apple
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Cup in September?
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I hate it. I want to be wearing a jacket, a.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Hoodie, what do you call it, the long johns and
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: all that stuff.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: It's weird to me, but it is what it is.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: They already played it?
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: I didn't know. Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Why would you know?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: You don't pay attention to us like that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: You know who I don't pay attention to anymore?
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Who?
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: UW.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Look, I went to Arizona State. I tolerate them. A
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: lot of my friends are UW fans. And so there's
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: been times where I've liked to follow them, particularly during
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: the basketball run. We had Nate Robinson and all those
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: guys and Isaiah Thomas. But now, because the whole NIL
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: thing and them and being a big 10, there's such
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: a disconnect for me. I just, I mean, they're not
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: in the pack 12 anymore. It's just, I don't know.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: You're not in the Pac-12 anymore.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: I know, but it's Arizona State. I follow Arizona State.
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I don't follow SC and UCLA and Washington like I
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: used to. I used to follow because they're in the Pac.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Well, you did text me, come on Cougs, this past weekend.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: I did. Why was that?
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Who were they playing?
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: Your nemesis.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Arizona.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: Arizona.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: We're waiting to connect with Emmanuel Wilson. What did you
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: see from him? What did you like from him?
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I like him. I mean, one, he's big back. tough guy.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: But you know what I thought was really good, particularly
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: against Arizona, he makes people miss. It's not like he's
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: just a bruiser. I wasn't sure what to expect. I
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: didn't see him that much when he was at Green Bay.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: He's got a really fascinating story, too, how he got here.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: We'll ask him. I won't give that away yet. He's
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: been a bit of a godsend. When you have Price,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: who's a rookie, feel bad. He's not a fumbler. That's
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: not going to happen. We cannot put that on him.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Don't put that on me type thing, right? Ricky Bobby.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: But we cannot put that on him. But to have
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: a veteran guy, especially when Charbonnet has been out, I
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: think having, you know, Emmanuel Wilson has been really helpful.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Well, let's hear from the man himself, Emmanuel Wilson. Emmanuel,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: how you doing? I'm good.
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: How about yourself?
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Hey, we're great, man.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: We appreciate you taking time on a Thursday. You're probably
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: watching film, watching a game, playing the game. Who knows
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: what you're.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: Doing, man?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: We just appreciate it. You got a cool story, man.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: You come from Division II, Johnson C. Smith University. You
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: transferred to Fort Valley State, undrafted. You go to Green Bay.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: What's this experience like for you? You're talking to two
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: undrafted guys ourselves, man. Talk to me what that experience
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: has been like.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: Man, the experience is wonderful. Like coming to like when
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: I was in Green Bay and everything like that, learning
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: from Aaron Jones, A.J. Dillon, Patrick Taylor, just around those
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: group of guys, it was wonderful for me to actually learn.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: involve my game, elevate my game to another level, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: then also learning from Josh Jacobs and Coach Ben Sermons.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: It was a wonderful feeling.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: Just being able to, you know, put on for, like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: undrafted guys and also.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Division II HBCU players.
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: It's a wonderful feeling.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Well, I had heard of Fort Valley State, and we're
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: football junkies in college and everything, so we follow Division II,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: the FBS, all of those things. But I had never
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: heard of Johnson C. Smith University. One, tell us where
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: that is. And two, how did you end up getting there?
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: So Johnson C. Smith University is in Charlotte, North Carolina,
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: on Beta 4 Road. I mean, I ended up going
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: to that school because there was a situation where my
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: brother had ended up getting locked up.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: My mom had.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: schizophrenia. My sister was two to three years old at
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: the time, so I wanted to stay home. I could
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: have went to a Division I school. I had a
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: lot of schools looking at me, but it was me
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: not focusing on school as much that didn't make me land.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: At a Division I school, but John C. Smith, it
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: was a wonderful HBCU school to go to.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: Football program was going well now, but when I was
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: there at the time, it wasn't.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: What it is now. I can tell you that.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Man, so you've experienced sacrifice at such a young age, man.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: That's very mature of you. You know, I mean, I
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: appreciate that about you, man. Tell me about this running
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: back room, you know, the situation. You guys got three
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: guys right now who are competing for time. I watch
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of body language, but it seems like you
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: guys support each other. What's that RB room like?
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: Oh, man, the RB room, wonderful, man.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: We all.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: Yes, it's competing, but when somebody's out there, they're making
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: the plays, they're excited for each other because there's only
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: one running back that can be out there at the time. So,
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: you know, it's wonderful. We all learn from each other.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: We always try to mark each other's game. And also,
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: like in the film room, we laugh a lot. We
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: do a little shadow boxing.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: There and there.
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: And just learning for just more like a brotherhood in
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: that room.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: What's strange is this is your fourth season and you
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: are the vet in that room. I mean, you got
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Helani's been there for three years and, you know, Charbonnet's
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: been out. And then you got the young rook in Price.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: So are you mentoring these guys? And I'll throw this
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: one for you as well. Tell us about Price and
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: how you keep his confidence up. I mean, I hate the,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: we cannot pigeonhole him. He's a fumbler because he's not.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: But how do you keep his confidence up?
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: Uh, we'd be telling them like, he's good. You know, uh,
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: he's a hell of a back in this league. Honestly,
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: just the way he can turn his speed on the
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: way he can catch the way he can track the
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: ball and everything like that. And wait, like he just
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: hits the hose when he sees it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: I'd be letting them know, like he got.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: Shit and, uh, it don't matter about the mistakes you have,
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: but just keep going. And, um, everything's going to.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: Fall in place.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: So he just let the game come to you and
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: you're going to pop one. Like he almost did against, um, Arizona. So, uh,
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: You know, I just continue to tell him to keep going.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: And me just being a vet.
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: In the room, I'm still, like, learning a lot, even
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: though I've been in the league for years. We've been
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: learning from Bayless Jones. He used to be a receiver.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: Now he's a running back.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: This is year six for him, I believe.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: So we've been learning a lot from him. We just
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: try to motivate us and keep us going.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Hey, man, it's been kind of an up-and-down year as
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: far as the run game, right? You come out the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: first week, rush for about 90-something yards, second week. a
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: buck 62 and then 44 last week. The common fan
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: might panic, right, and say, oh, my God, I was
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: going on one week with 44 yards. But how do
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: you guys handle that, the highs and the lows of
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the run game? Because sometimes it's really just about being
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a threat to run the football because everything else is
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: going to open up. Just walk me through the mentality
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: of that room when the numbers are up and the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: numbers are down.
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: Really, we just approach the week the same, regardless of
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: we know in, like, In this league, you're not always
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: going to have 100 and some yard games unless like.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: How can I put this?
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: Like every week is not going to be like 100
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: yards a game.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: It's football. It happens.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: So we just go attack the little details in practice
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: and just try to lean on the offense alignment to,
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: you know, make their right reads and get to their
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: right blocks. And it's up to us to, you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: make the right reads coming off the ball and everything.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: You know, there's times, and I was looking at the game,
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: and I said, wow, they got one more than you
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: guys can block. You know, there was times there was
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: nine guys in the box. They were dropping a safety down.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: They had their true 3-4 where, you know, they had
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: a nose on the center. And I'm like, man, what
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: do you do here? Do you guys check out of that,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: or do you guys still stay with the run saying,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: you know what, we're committed to this. You know, we'll
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: throw when we need to throw. Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: I can't even give you an answer to that, honestly.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: Whatever play they call us, that's what we run with.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: And we just try to execute the best.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: Way we can.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel it, man. Just go out there and
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: do it. The hardest thing I would assume for a
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: running back is just pass protection. It happens so fast.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: You might be responsible for the back and to the right.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: He runs a stunt.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: He's to the left. Was that the hardest part for you?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And do you think that that is true now? to
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: rookie running backs.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Entering the league?
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's true, too. It was hard for me coming
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: into the league because, like, I never really had to
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: pass protect in college. So I know, like, some guys
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: may have done it in college and stuff like that,
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: but as far as a rookie, it's a lot of
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: vets that have different type of moves. They like to
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: bull rush. They like to swim. They might hit you
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: with a half spin and turn back inside. You never
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: know what they're going to hit you with, but it's
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: all about studying film and just leaning right on your technique.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: But we are fortunate to get you in the offseason.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: What transpired that? Why did you end up wanting to
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: come to Seattle, and how did you get here?
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: Uh honestly um i was in miami during that time
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: when my agent had called me he was saying it
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: was between the 49ers and the seahawks i chose to
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: come to the seattle just because i can um for
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: one it was my childhood team i'll tell you that
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: for once my childhood team grew up watching them um
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: and then also just the opportunity to come here and
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: compete and just to be a part of this culture.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Good decision, by the way. We don't like them 49ers.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: I know it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: I know it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Hey, last one before we get you out of here.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: We like to.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: This is like a standard question that we always ask.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: All right, what do you do on a Thursday? You're
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: done watching film. You're done rehabbing. What's Emmanuel doing during
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: his off time?
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: Really, man, I journal. I take my mental pretty serious,
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: so I journal right down what my day looked like.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: And also, like, I talk to my... my mom, my brother,
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: my kids. So I just try to make time for
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: them outside of football, and I watch some TV every
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: now and then.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: That's awesome, man.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Take care of that mental, take care of that body,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: and we appreciate your time, man.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: We'll talk to you soon.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: Yes, sir. Appreciate you. All right.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: That was Emmanuel Wilson.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Coming up next, we'll go around the NFL. What's going
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: down in the league? That's coming up next right here
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: on Hawks Live. I am Michael Bumpus. This is my guy,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Paul Moyer. and this is Hawks Live presented by the
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Dining District at the Bellevue Collection every Thursday right here
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: on Seattle Sports 710. We're at Bellevue Square Central Court.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It is time now to go around the NFL. Look
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: at these Cleveland Browns, Moyer. 21-10 fourth quarter Deshaun, if
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: he keeps doing this, fans are going to be conflicted.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Do I cheer? Do I boo? Do I cheer for
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: the player? I don't root for the man.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of players in the
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: league that are like that, but he's unique in his situation.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: But I didn't expect this. This is for the first
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: place in the AFC North.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: He's actually having a good game. He's 17 for 22,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: almost 200 yards. He's got one touchdown. And again, to me,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: he really hasn't played anybody yet. It's weird because it
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: just goes to show you if you win, they'll forgive you.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: If you build it, they will come.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Again, I don't know if he's ever going to
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: get cheered, but there may be less boos. That's about it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: There will be less boos.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: What about Sean McVay, man?
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: He's an interesting guy.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he is.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, he flies his team over to Australia early,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: and clearly he wasn't right.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: The team wasn't right.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: He makes a couple excuses, then he moves on. Last loss,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: he goes up to the mic after the presser, well,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: post-game presser, and he takes one question, and he's gone
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: in two minutes, and then his people come out, the
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: publicists come out and say, oh, well, everyone wasn't ready.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: He got a.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Couple questions, and then he left, and he apologizes to
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: the press or whatnot, and then his PR.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Team calls everyone out.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Well, you guys should be on time. Paul, the Rams
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: didn't even have their stuff set up. All right, so
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: you know he was just trying to get out of there,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: but yet he's been in the league, a head coach
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: 10 years now, one of the more successful offensive coordinators.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on Sean McBride?
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Well, I think you said he's an interesting guy. Look,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: he's got an ego that's huge. I think the reason
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: why he gets away with his ego is he's very...
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: I think he's very transparent. You know, he tells you
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: like it is and you say, OK. And he's he's
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: very intelligent. I think some of these guys, they think
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: they're the smartest people in the room at times. And
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: he might be. I mean, he's he's a very gifted
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: offensive coordinator. But when all of a sudden you start
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: losing and this is a team that had one of
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: the highest odds going into a season to win a
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl. I mean, it was crazy. And now you've
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: lost two of three and haven't looked good either. You know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, just haven't looked good. So I look good.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: You know, hopefully they're, whatever, 4-12 when we play them.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Maybe they'll be 4-11 when we play them, whatever, that week.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: I just think it's a tough one. There's very few coaches.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: You've seen them in the NBA, guys. like Phil Jackson
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: and Pat Riley's of the world that can grab a
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: super team, keep all their egos in check, and still
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: find a way to push through and win a championship.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: You got 53 guys plus 17 in the practice squad.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: You got to get 70 guys. Man, that's just, that's
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: tough to manage all those egos. And they're old on
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: top of that. You know, you got Stafford doesn't look
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: as good. I mean, again, 33 interceptions for a touchdown.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: That's a remarkable stat in itself.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: The easiest game to lose with a super team is
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: a football game because it doesn't matter. One man, two men,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: three men can't affect the game like that. Now you've
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: got basketball. I've got two or three guys. You'll be
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: good to go. Hockey, all you need is really a center.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: That's a guy, yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: You know that? I didn't know you knew hockey.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I do the hockey.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: I do the hockey.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Love that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: So you can build a super team in football, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: so much has to go right for one play to
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: be successful that, Those two or three guys that you have.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: You look at the Rams.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Right now, they have Matthew Stafford, Devontae Adams, Miles Garrett,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Aaron Donald. Four gold jackets on the field right now,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: and they're not able to get it done. Do I
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: think this is going to be the case all year?
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: No.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I think they'll figure it out. They're well coached. You've
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: got talent. Things are going to happen for them.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Well, I hope they lose early. They've got another tough game.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: They've got a bunch of tough games coming up. And again,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: maybe at the end of the season, other than they
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: got to play us twice in the last three games,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: maybe their schedule eases up a little bit. So hopefully
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: their record is poor. But man, when you start losing,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: it's why this game is so critical. Man, streaks on
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: the losing side are bad, man. They're evil. They're dark.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: They're hard to get out of. You just start to
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: lose your confidence. You start second-guessing yourself as coaches, as players.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, you just don't want to. You know, you
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: can win two out of three and be fine. You
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: lose two games in a row, man, there's doubt going
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: into that next one. And guess what? Our next game
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: is against 49ers after this. This is a critical game.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: And so, again, I look at the Rams, same thing.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you lose another one, and you
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: start off one and three. It's not as much fun
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: to go to practice.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Everything starts, you know, imploding. So he's got a tough job.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: They're really talented. I'm like you. I go, they're going
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: to find a way to win. But if they don't,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: this thing could crumble. Because you don't see super teams
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: in the NFL. It's too hard because of the salary cap.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Usually the quarterback stays. Here they traded and got a
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: great quarterback. They traded and somehow got Miles Garrett. They
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: found a way to get Aaron Donald back. They went
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: and traded for two cornerbacks.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I'm like.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I don't even know how they're doing it. I mean,
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: they're not going to, I don't know how they're going
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: to pay for their team in the next few years.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: You just don't see that very often. And there's no bigger,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say egos. There's no bigger type
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: A human beings in the football locker room. There's egos
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: in baseball and basketball. But I mean, type A tough guys,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: you walk in a room, you better be a leader
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: because you'll lose that team quick. And I just think
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: he's in a tough situation right now.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Last one, got about a minute left. I saw a theory.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I was doom scrolling on Instagram. Couldn't sleep, 3.30 in
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: the morning. I'm on Instagram scrolling. And there have been
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks who have been hurt this year.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: And a crazy theory. You tell me what you think.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: All right. I forgot where this guy was from. Maybe
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: the East Coast. He was like, you know what?
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: The reason why we're seeing all these injuries, especially from quarterbacks,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: is because the defensive line is evolving. You have guys
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: who are 250, running four fours and four fives.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: They're getting bigger, faster, and stronger.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: And his thing was, what do we do to change
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the game to make it safer for quarterbacks?
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Like, do we make the field bigger? Do we widen splits? Like,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: what do we do?
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: So going off of that, with quarterbacks going down at
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: the rate that they are, how important is the backup quarterback?
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Well, it's important. Obviously, it's critical. And look, part of
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: my thing is... What do we do to make it
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: safer for defensive backs? I mean, just the quarterbacks?
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Says the DB.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Well, look, I think the other thing is, look, quarterbacks
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: know the rules now, right? They take advantage of it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: And we see Patrick Mahomes. We saw the quarterback from Oregon.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Get down. And I'm dead serious, and some are going
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: to think I'm joking. I think we're close to being
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: at the point where if they break the pocket, it's
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: two-hand touch. I'm dead serious because they're testing the DBs
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: and linebackers. Are you going out of bounds? Are you sliding? Oh,
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: now you're going to run over me? You're just putting
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: the onus on the defensive guys to protect you. So
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: if we're truly going to do that and if the
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks are so important, then you know what? Let's just
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: do this thing and just say it's two-hand touch and
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: you're down.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I say just stop and raise your hand.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: You're done.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Yes. You're out to play. We're already treating them like babies.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and stop the agenda.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: All right. More to do when we come back.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: We'll be joined by Julian Neal in person right here
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: on Hawks Live. Along with my guy, Paul Moyer, I'm
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Michael Bumbus. This is Hawks Live. Every Thursday, we are.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Right here doing our thing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: We'll be joined by Julian Neal right here in a
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: little bit. I watched the film on Julian Neal, and
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Physical corner. Started at Fresno. Arkansas. And I like the film, Moyer.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: In college, I like the film.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: I think he can play a lot of positions, too.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I actually, when I first saw him, I go, you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: former safety, I go, that could be a safety right there.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: But he's got that length. You're about to see him.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: He's 6'2, 200 pounds. The guy's got a 40-inch vertical,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: which I'll ask about that. 40-inch vertical. I remember when
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Michael Jordan had a 40-inch vertical. And you said, this
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: guy's out of the world. And we got a guy
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: here walking up here that's, Another one of those type
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: of athletes. Really, really incredible.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: We are joined now by the man himself, Julian Neal.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Nice to meet you, man. We'll get them all set up.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: We're just, we're just singing your praises. We're talking about
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: 40 inch verticals and your size. And I got a
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: feeling you've got that basketball prowess.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Apparently he was all area in the Bay.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: You don't just do that, man. You a Hooper for real? Yeah,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I was a Hooper. What, what position? Just everywhere.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Everywhere.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: What high school? Mission High School in San Francisco. Yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I'm familiar.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time in the Bay, so yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I'm familiar with that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, really?
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: What part?
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Pac-12 Network, we were in downtown San Francisco.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Then we moved to San Ramon, but I fly to
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Oakland all the time, so I'm just, I'm bouncing around.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nice. Bouncing around, yep.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: Did you think that you might play basketball in college?
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, I wasn't that good.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: I was just the strong dude on the court. just
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: dunking the ball, just being athletic. That's all I was doing.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I was just telling Moyer, man, the first thing I
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: saw when I watched your film at Arkansas was just
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: you just like to hit.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Where does that come from? That's always been a part
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: of you? Nah, really.
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: Like Pop Warner football, they always said I was scared
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: to hit. So it was just crazy because I played
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: receiver growing up, so it was like just that transformation
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: of me going to DB and then being able to
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: hit like that, I kind of surprised myself. Really, that's
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: just how I went.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Well, rumor is you were also a defensive end at
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: one point. Is this true?
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: That's correct.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I played everywhere. Like I said, I was... I
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: was everywhere.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Like edge rusher, go get the quarterback type thing?
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no technique. Just go get the QB. Just go
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: on the outside, contain, and go in.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: So you had an interesting journey. So you're a Northern
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Cal kid. Makes sense to go to Fresno State. I mean,
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: it's just an hour and a half, two-hour drive, I guess,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: from there. So that makes sense. And then, I think
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: you were there three or four years. Yeah, four years.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: So in 2004, but then you, or 24, you commit
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: to Stanford.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Don't go there, end up in Arkansas. Just give them,
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: how'd that all transpire?
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: So basically, after the 2024 season at Fresno State, I
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: wanted to enter the portal. but there was a problem
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: because I wanted to get my degree. I was getting
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: my degree in accounting. I didn't want that to go
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: to waste because if I would have gotten a portal
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: and left, I would have lost all my credits going
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: to another school. So when I got in a portal,
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: I told the coaches, like every coach that was recruiting me,
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: I told them, I'll go to your school only if
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: you'll wait for me to come in the summer so
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: I could graduate in May.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: And it came down to Cal, I think Northwestern and Stanford.
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: And ultimately I picked Stanford um, you know, the whole
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: NIL things, it was really, um, they just, you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: gave me the best package and, um, that's how it happened.
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: Then they fired the head coach, you know, all that
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: different stuff was going on. Some, some stuff I didn't
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: stand for and I got back in the portal and
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: Arkansas just came through.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: That's funny because I hear my, what I hear about
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Stanford is that they are stingy with NIL. They're not
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: letting people get in early. Like they're, They're behind the
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: game when it comes to it. So they must have
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: saw something in you and be like, all right, we
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: got to get this dude right here, man.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: What do you like about your game?
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I said the physicality, but is there something else that
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: you feel like, you know, you excel at?
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: I think my feet work. My footwork and my size is.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Really good. I think that's what I kind of pride
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: myself with.
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: Especially just being an off man, being able to backpedal,
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: being able to turn and run.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: All that type of stuff. That's where the hoop comes in. Yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Well, I know they got big plans for you, but
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: you get nicked up in training camp, and so you're out.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Just tell me where you are now. I know that
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: was disappointing for you and them because you got to
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: get reps, man, in the NFL. But how are you feeling,
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: and where do you feel your game is at this point?
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Maybe just from a mental standpoint, too.
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: Just trying to get back in there, trying to learn.
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: You know, now it's very limited reps. since we're in
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: the season. I'm just trying to take it in as
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: much as I can, watching film, getting in with coaches,
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: just trying to earn. I don't want anything to be
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: given to me. I'm not entitled to anything, so I
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: understand what's going on. I'm just trying to make my
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: stance on special teams right now and earn my way
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: on the field.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Or whatever happens. And whatever happens, just be ready also.
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: So from a mindset standpoint and from a mental standpoint,
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: I'm just trying to stay ready, keep my body healthy,
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: and stay in the playbook.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Is this a hard defense to learn? I mean, you
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: watch it, and I know Coach McDonald likes, you know,
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of match-up zone stuff as well, and
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: you guys, certain blitzes. But just from where you came from,
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: is it that much different?
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: It's the best defense in the NFL for a reason.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: And I have to tell myself that, like, dang, okay,
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: this is different. Like, everything about this is just different.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Like, I've never... I don't think I've ever did anything
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: like this before.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: In my life.
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: And that's just exciting for me as well, just being
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: able to excel at that.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: That's cool to hear, man, because I feel like your
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: generation is in such a special time. Because when I
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: was coming up, corners weren't your size. Linebackers were big
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: as heck. You know what I mean? It's almost positionless
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: football at some point with this defense.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: But you played big-time football already. You played in the SEC.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: You're going to play in front of 80,000, 100,000.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Not that many at Lumen, but I would assume I
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: played against SEC teams in college. I would assume that
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: you get that type of energy. How did the SEC
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: prepare you for the NFL?
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: Well, like my Texas A & M game, I think
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: loudest game I was at probably was the Tennessee game.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: That prepared me for Lumen, but I'm not going to lie.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Lumen, that's a difference.
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: Like, the whole ground feel like it's shaking and it's
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: just like everybody is bought in in the stadium. I'm
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: looking around, like, all the fans, like, they're just putting
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: their heart into it when the offense is on third down.
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: And it's like, dang, it's like, it just feel like
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: literally just roaring. And I'm like, wow, I've actually never
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: heard anything like this before. Like, college may have more
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: people at the game, but NFL, the fans, y'all are
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: way more into it.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Like, that's what I would say.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't sit down here either, which is pretty crazy.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because Coach McDonald, and before that,
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Pete Carroll, you know, they always praised the 12s. They
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: always praised them, and rightfully so. What are Mondays like?
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: You know, I played seven years. You know, Mondays were uncomfortable.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: Are they uncomfortable, or is it more teaching? Is it
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: more positive? How is that structured for you guys?
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: I think it's... It's more like a regroup and process.
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: When we came back Monday, Coach Mike, you know, he
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: came in the team meeting room. He's like, yeah, yeah,
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: I know what happened. But, you know, coming back in
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: on Monday and being able to see you guys' faces
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: just made me feel a lot better. And that has
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: stuck with me because I'm like, dang, yeah, like, you know,
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: we're all in this together. So I think that should
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: paint a picture of how Mondays are We all get
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: to come back, see each other, and just get back
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: to work. Nobody's pointing fingers at anybody. It is uncomfortable.
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: You've got to get better. That's how you get better.
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: But we all come together. We all know we're in
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: this together. We have one goal, and that's to stay
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: together and do what we've.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: Got to do.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's important for people to know that you
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: guys are human beings. You're not just a guy... with
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: a jersey on. That's what you do on Sundays. Obviously,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: that's what you do for your occupation, but you're a
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: human being. So when I hear the hate on Twitter
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: and all that stuff, it drives me crazy. So I
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: think it's important that we just get to know you.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: So people have an idea of what you like to
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: do and who you are. What do you do back home?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: When you go home, what's the first thing you're going
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: First thing I'm going to do when I go back home,
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: definitely go visit my family. I like to go back
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: to my high school. just talk to some of my
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: old coaches. I like to just go around the neighborhood.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: Like one thing I do like to do, I really
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: like to go around the neighborhood, especially like who I
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: am today.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Like they all know my face.
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: So just like to, like I said, go around the neighborhood,
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: walk around, probably shoot some hoops at the local gym. Like,
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: you know, it's the little things that matter when it
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: comes to trying to influence the younger generation, especially around
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: my neighborhood.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: So it's like, that's one thing I do love to do. Yeah.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: You guys have an interesting group of DBs, personality-wise. Share that.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, you got Julian Love, who seems really professional.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: He's the mature, he's the father of that group. You
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: got Witherspoon, who's, you know, full energy. Describe that room
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: and maybe just who are some of the personalities in there.
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: I mean, with Spoon, like I tell other people with him,
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: he just don't stop. Like, he just don't stop talking, right? Like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: he just one of those dudes, like, he going, like,
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: If you were in a room with him, the room
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: would never be quiet. Like, I'm so serious. Julian Love,
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: he's just one of those people who is just, like,
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: very professional. Like, you know, we'll be in the meetings.
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: He'll be like, he'll just be so professional. It's crazy
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: because he told me, he was like, yeah, like, being
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: a rookie is hard, bro. Like, you know, we just
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: had one of those talks. And he was like, yeah,
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: when I was a rookie, they used to make fun
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: of me for being professional. Like, I was a dork and,
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: you know, stuff like that. And I was like, dang.
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: And then we had Namaya Pritchett. He just does his work,
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: comes in, you know, a quiet dude. You know, we
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: got the rookies. We got Dansby, Andre Fuller. We came
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: in all together. We all just come together, and we
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: all just work.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: But, yeah.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: So I grew up. Y'all don't yell at me, okay?
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: I grew up in L.A. We had no football team.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: I grew up a 49er fan, right? All right, boo.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: All right, get it out.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: Get it out.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: But, obviously, as soon as I.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Played for the Hawks, now I work for my alliance,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: It's with the Seahawks. So who did you grow up watching,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and who was your favorite player?
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Be careful.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: I grew up watching the Niners. I assume so. So
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: where I grew up at, the stadium, I was a fan.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: to see the stadium from my window.
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: So during, like, Sundays or whatever they was playing, I
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: would be able to see the fireworks and stuff like that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: And I think that drove me to want to be
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: there as well, you know, be in the NFL. Who
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: I grew up watching, I really liked– I'm not going
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: to lie, I really like Patrick Willis. He was just
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: a hard hitter, especially when I was playing Madden and stuff,
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: I used to use him. Adrian Peterson is someone that
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: I really like to watch growing up.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Patrick Willis, I mean, even a 49er, he's a hard
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: guy not to like. He was such a good player.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: So when you say you were by the stadium, was
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: it Candlestick? Yeah, Candlestick.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: That was old school, yeah.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: That's how old I am. I played in that thing.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: That was a terrible stadium, terrible wind.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Windy as heck.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, it was horrible.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, just the way he had to go into
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: the locker room down these steps in bad weather. Sometimes
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: it would rain down to the steps. Not good. So
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: that's where he grew up. So you were a 49er fan.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: So what's it like now?
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: You guys got the 49ers in two weeks, man. Are
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: you going to be a little awe of them? Not
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: like from a football standpoint, like, man, that's my team.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: Good answer.
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: You know, this is where I'm employed at, and this
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: is where I'm going to give my all.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not worried about.
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: I wasn't that big of a Niners fan.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong.
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'll be able to see the stadium, but
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: I wasn't crazy about them. But You know, we do
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: have them in two weeks, and I know the whole
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: city is.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: Going to be watching. The 12s hate the 49ers. There's
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: no other team that we hate more than the 49ers,
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: and rightfully so. So you think it's– is that one
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: on the road? Whenever we play them at home, you
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: think it's– you heard it loud? Oh, man, you wait.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: It's going to be crazy.
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: Okay, wait.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: My first game was against the Niners. So I was
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: a bit in awe. I'm about to beat up on
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: the team that I grew up playing against. But, Julian, man,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: we appreciate your time, man. That was Thursday. You got
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: things you can do.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Give it up one more time for Julian Neal.
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: Thank you. Thank you.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: All right, when we come back, we'll go inside the
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: film room. That's next right here on Hawks Live. Along
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: with Paul Moyer, I'm Michael Bumpus. This is Hawks Live. Man,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: we were just joined by Julian Neal. He's got like
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: a calmness about him. But something tells me he turns
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: it up. You know, when he's on that football field.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: He's going to be a good player. Great athlete. I mean,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: when I remember him coming out, I said, he just
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: needs a year of seasoning. He needs to be around
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: NFL guys. He's got to believe that he can play
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: in this league. But athletically and toughness.
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's the sky's the limit for him.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: Yes, sir.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Let's get into this film room.
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: Paul Moyer.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Want to break down some film?
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: All right, this first play, Sam Darnold finds JSN for
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: a one-yard touchdown.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: Barner goes in motion. Sam takes a shotgun snap, rolls,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: throws nearside. Ball is caught. Touchdown, Seahawks!
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: JSN with the catch on the right side of the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: end zone, and all he did was run a little bit.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: Of an out. Had to get my hmm in there.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: That was Moyer. Moyer was all over this call, man.
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: All over this call.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: What'd you see?
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: Well, what I did say is you can see him,
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: but you can't stop him. Look, see, that's what I did. But,
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: you know, I'll let you describe the play, but it's
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: just a sprint out. It's one of those flurry calls,
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: and it's a nothing burger. It's just one-on-one with the
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: corner that they know. The corner's in perfect position, but
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: I don't know what he does with his body, talking
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: about JSN. A lot of times as a DB, I feel,
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: I'd be careful how I say this. I don't want
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: this to come off wrong. Like one of these Charles
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Barkley moments of bodying up people. But you feel the presence. Yeah,
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say whatever. I'm worried I'm going
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: to say a word that's not going to sound right.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: And so as soon as you feel the separation, you immediately,
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: I get pressure back on your shoulder and stuff. JSN
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: on this one, I mean, when he made the move,
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: and I think it's also just the quickness and explosiveness
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: he has for a step or two. I mean, he
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: creates like two yards in a three-yard window. I don't
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: even know how you do that. So I don't know.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: He's just amazing.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: We call this, I used to coach my guys up
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: and say, put him to sleep.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: And that's what he does.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Off the line, he walks a little bit, and then
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: it's the burst, and then he breaks down. The DB
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: has to respond to everything that we do.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: You have to respect it.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: So even the walk off the line, he's like, what
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: the heck is this guy doing? It's not like he
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: hasn't seen it before, but he's kind of guessing right there.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: And Jay is just special, man, because some of the
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: way he runs routes, I wouldn't coach a kid to
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: do that. But he's so special. He can be a
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: little high and still snap off with force. He can
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: walk off the line of scrimmage, put you to sleep,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: and do his thing. So, no, this is Sam Darnold
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: knew where he was going. He knew he was a man.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: 101.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: I'm sprinting to the right.
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: 2J is in.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: I'm going to put on that pylon, and 11 is
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: going to make a play for me.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it really is. The reason why I say that is,
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: as a DB in the end zone, I know you
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: don't have that many options. You're not going to run
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: by me. I mean, it's 10 yards. I mean, I'm
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: already in position. I'm inside technique on you. The only
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: place you really can go is out or back to
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. And he gets... Again, I think
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: there's like three yards to play with, and he gets
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: two-yard separation on that. It's a great throw, too, and
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: a great catch. But, yeah, he's an amazing player.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: All right, this next play, Sam Darnall finds JSN for
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: an 11-yard touchdown.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Four-man rush by Washington. The look to throw inside.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: It's caught.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: It's a touchdown.
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: Seahawks.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: JSN says, throw a flag on me. I'll show you.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I'll catch an 11-yard dart from Sam Darnall. He does
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: under the goal post. Seattle is a point away from
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: tying it up.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: Who would have thought that they would have tied it up?
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: Let me describe just what they're playing. They're playing quarters
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: in this one. I don't like how they play quarters
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: because they really just created man-to-man for the safety and
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: the corner. But the corner's in really good position. He's
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: inside technique, I think, initially. I might be wrong on that.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: I'm not watching it right now. But JSN stems outside
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: just a little bit, and the corner bites on it immediately.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: And it's not like, oh, I jumped two, three yards outside.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: He just kind of slid outside, and as soon as
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: JSN saw that, he broke right back inside of him.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: And it's a great throw, another great route. You really
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: should be able to complete this pass if you're playing
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: quarters the way they're doing it. I don't like the
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: way they did it, and I think the Seahawks took
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: advantage of that.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: You know, something that I would say the untrained eye
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: won't appreciate is Arroyo. Because he can run this route
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: to be selfish and try to win.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: And say, you know what?
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give the safety a move, go over
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: the top, and try to make a play.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: And the safety obviously.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: Has eyes on man, but he has eyes on quarterback too.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: So what Arroyo has to do, you have to cross
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: the face of this safety. If you get selfish, you
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: go over the top, the safety might make a play
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: on this. So you combine... J.S.M. with his wide release
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: creating space and Arroyo crossing the face of the safety.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Guys doing what they're supposed to do. Arroyo knows he's
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: not getting his football. He knows he's not getting it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I'm creating space for my guy. And you get the
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: best receiver in the game, the football. And I think
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: the throw isn't talked about enough because the window isn't big.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: The DB's on J.S.M.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: 's hip.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: But he still finds a way to make it happen.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: That's about a hundred mile an hour fastball too. Cause
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: that thing, he stepped into it. And normally Sam, when
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: he ball, it looks effortless. Not this one. I mean,
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: he threw it as hard as he could and he
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: needed to, cause the window wasn't open very long.
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: All right, this next play, Sam Darnold finds Cooper Cupp
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: for a seven-yard touchdown.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: Wide receiver to each side.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cupp now shifts over to the right side with
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Price in the backfield.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: Darnold takes the snap, looks, snaps off the throw. Easy.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Pitch and catch.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: Touchdown Seahawks. Cooper Cupp just.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Ran a little out route to the front corner of the.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: End zone, and the two defenders for Washington.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Just looked at each other, and.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Sam just snapped off a quick throw.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: Touchdown Seahawks.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: We're within three.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Maura, this is where the little details of a route combination,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: I think, can get lost.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Because they're clearly in man.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: And what we call this when I was growing up
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: was a banjo or a cali. It's like, all right,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to motion over from left to right if
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: I'm Cooper Cup.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: And I feel like, you correct me if I'm wrong, DB, right?
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: In this situation, the corner on the outside is probably
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: supposed to switch to take the first thing out.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: The corner inside takes the first thing in.
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: So.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cup motions over to JSN, and his release, he
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: kind of gets a stack. So when you're stacked, there's
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: one receiver in front, one behind, and you're making the defense.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: Have to communicate.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Because JSN is so dang good, no one wants to
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: leave number 11. So then Cooper Cup runs that out,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: and the DB that's supposed to go with the first
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: thing out rides JSN to the end zone, and the
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: DB that motioned with Cooper Cup.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Is on JSN as well.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: So this is where The details matter, and the respect
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: of JSN allowed Cooper Cupp to be wide open.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to give Fleury a lot of credit.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, he draws some good plays. I mean, they
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: knew they were going to have quarters, and that play
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: was obviously designed for JSN. On this one, it's a three-on-two.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know what Washington's doing. I mean, they got
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: three guys covering one guy. Now one guy jumped the out.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: There's some confusion to it. They kind of ran a
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: similar route on the backside, only they brought Jadarian Price
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: into the flat. And that one, there's, you know, Three
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: receivers end up going out because of that. But I
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: just think Fleury's done a really good job. You know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: when you are committed to stopping the run, we're going
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: to throw it. He's designed some incredible things. I mean,
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: think about it, guys. JSN's the most. Everybody knows where
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: he is on the field.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: And all this guy is averaging is about 10 catches
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: a game and over 100 yards. It's remarkable.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Hey, one more 100-yard game.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: And he ties the franchise record for consecutive 100-yard games.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: You know whose record he's trying to break?
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go with a guy named Steve Largent.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: It's JSN.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: No, it's not.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: Yes, it is.
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: Steve Largent never had four?
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying he never had four.
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: No, he didn't.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Because JSN has.
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: The record, yeah.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: It was more of a rhetorical statement or question on
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: that one.
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  Speaker 4: You made me second-guess myself for a second, though. I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: got to listen to the OG sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: JSN, going for it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, come join us here at Hawks Live at Bellevue
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Square Center Court, where you'll have a chance to win
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: gift cards from the dining district at the Bellevue Collection. Tonight,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: they're giving away gift cards to Thai Kitchen Bird Pepper.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: Are they not the nicest people?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Cindy's the owner.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: You want hospitality.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, my goodness.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 4: You go to Thai Chicken.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: Their food, it's the best Thai I've ever had.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: And Moyer knows the owner. So just mention Moyer's name.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: And they'll make you pay full price. Mention his name,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: you're paying full price.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: They will give you literally zero off.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Special treat me there. But hospitality, on point.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: All right, when we come back, it's time to talk
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: that talk.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: We're going to pick some topics.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: He says I'm right, I'll say he's wrong, vice versa.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: That's coming up next right here on Hawks Live. This
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: is Hawks Live. I'm Michael Bumpus with Paul Moyer. Every Thursday,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: we are right here at Bellevue Square Center Court in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: front of the greatest fans in all of the land.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Now it's time to talk that talk. This is what's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: going to happen. I'm going to throw something out there.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Paul will say it's correct.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: It is wrong.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: I'll give my opinion. Either we agree, we disagree. We've
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: been doing this for a long time.
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  Speaker 6: So, uh.
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  Speaker 3: How long?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Let's see how this... Seven?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: You don't know.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: You don't know our anniversary, do you?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: Do you know my birthday?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I've been so happy that the years just fly by.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: You were up late, like 3.30, worrying about me.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, worrying about you, exactly. All right, man, let's go
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: with this first one.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: All right, Jackson Smith and Jigba is the most irreplaceable Seahawk.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Yes. And normally you would say quarterback, wouldn't you? Yeah.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: But we don't have another JSM. Drew Locke showed that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: We can win games, and look, I think Sam Darnold
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: is elite, elite, elite. But JSN, what he is able
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: to do in that passing game. Now, with that being said,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: you remember when DK Metcalf got hurt?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, JSN got an opportunity. We
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: thought he was just a possession receiver.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: Well, how wrong have we been there? Maybe someone else
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: like Torrey Horton or Rasheed or another, you know, Arroyo, somebody...
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: gets that opportunity and blossoms. But right now, if you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: don't have JSN, that would be the most detrimental piece
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: to our team.
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  Speaker 4: You said usually it's the quarterback. Drew Locke came in.
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  Speaker 3: JSN goes for a buck 20, a buck 55.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold comes in.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: He goes for a buck 28 and two touchdowns. He
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: scored every touchdown but, what, two for this team so far, right?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: He got Sobert with a touchdown.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: And then I believe you have Emmanuel Wilson with a touchdown.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: We got one, and Barner has one, but 6-3. I mean,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: he's scoring all your touchdowns. He's one of, like, one
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: or two players to score the first four touchdowns in
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: franchise history, maybe league history, in the first two games
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  Speaker 3: of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's JSN.
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  Speaker 3: This offense does not go without JSN, and typically we're
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: talking quarterback or running back, you know what I'm saying,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: something that is more consistent and touches the ball at
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: a high clip, but no, I agree.
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  Speaker 4: It has to be JSN. No one in the league.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: is doing what jsn is doing he's on pace for
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  Speaker 3: 10 000 yards this year moyer i don't know.
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  Speaker 5: If you knew that's a lot that's that's more than
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: i can count but uh now he's i remember when
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: we drafted him i go.
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  Speaker 3: You're a little skeptical i say yeah he's all.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Right he had the big game in the rose bowl
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  Speaker 5: yeah the year before because he was out the the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: his basically senior year um i thought yeah he's all
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: right man it's just one game Man, was I wrong.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: And I'm not wrong often, but boy, was I wrong
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  Speaker 5: on that one. Let's stay with wide receivers because we're
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: not getting much other than JSN. You know, I still
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: think Arroyo is going to be there. I like Shahid.
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  Speaker 5: It's just, you know, for whatever reason, it hasn't really
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: taken off yet. He's still such a deep threat that,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: you know, people keep their eye on him. Torrey Horton's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: the guy. And I think we both thought coming into
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: the season, you know, if he can– be healthy and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: on the field, he has all the ability to be
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: a legit number two receiver on this team. So with
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: that being said, Torrey Horton will have more production than
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: Rasheed by the end of this season.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: Had a big game last week. Big game last week,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Torrey Horton.
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  Speaker 3: The thing about Torrey is he has to stay healthy,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: and that's something he can't.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Control, right? Health is just his luck.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: If he's healthy, I think he's a better overall receiver
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: than Shaheed. I think he becomes the number two, and
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: I know people don't want to hear that because Shahid
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: just got his bag, but it is what it is.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: I think Shahid will be more valuable in the return game,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: and every now and then he'll make one big play
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: or two big plays in a game. Torres, Torrey Horton,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like, can give you four for 75, have
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: a big game, give you six for 100 in a touchdown.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: He had one of the more efficient seasons last year.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Only played in, what, four or five games and had
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: five or six touchdowns, one of the return game. Five
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: touchdowns on 13 receptions is what my guy had.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: I think people forgot that.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: Look, he's sized. He's got length. He's got speed. He's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: got good hands. He runs good routes. I think Shahid
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: becomes more productive if Torrey Horton becomes the true number
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: two because Shahid's– He's not a receiver. He's a fly-sweep guy.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: He certainly can split a seam and run the post.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: He can do a lot of things rather than just
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: run intermittent routes, right? So you've got to have Torrey
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: Horton or somebody step up into that position. For us
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: to really be the offense, I think we need to
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: be truly balanced. I think Torrey Horton... has to be
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: the legit number two receiver. And because I think we're
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: going back to the Super Bowl, I'm going to say
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: he's more productive than Shaheed.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: All right, we agree once again. All right, next up. Ooh, freestyle.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: Let's get it.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert is the most overrated QB in the world.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of them out there. Drake May is
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: one of the most overrated quarterbacks in the NFL. Herbert,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say he's overrated. I think, cause
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know how much, I think people think of
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: him as, wow, the upside's huge with him. You know,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: there's so much about him. It's his charisma as well.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: I think it could be his girlfriend's bringing him down.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure. Cause ever since that's happened, he's lost
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: focus and he hasn't been the same and that can happen.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: Sometimes a woman could just, they can mess with your head,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: especially at that age. Um, Don't be mad, ladies. Don't
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: be mad. No, it's a compliment to you. You guys,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: you control us. We know that, okay? We don't claim
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: anything else. And it's a good thing. You guys make
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: us better men. But he's going through a little bit
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: of transition right now, and it's affected his game. And
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: hopefully it affects it for one more week because I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: think he's actually very skilled. You know, he's mobile for
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: a big guy. He does have a good arm. His
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: accuracy has been off. I don't know how many people
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: he has to throw to right now. They're really struggling offensively.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, they are struggling. I don't know if it's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: because their offensive coordinator is just throwing so much out there.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: What do you hang your hat on? I don't know.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: But I'm going to say no, he's not the most overrated.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: But he's maybe one of the most disappointing ones because
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: of his upside.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Seven years in the league. No playoff wins.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Up 23-0 against the Jags, I think, a couple years
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: ago in the playoffs.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: Loses that. Don't worry, we'll get you a new head coach.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: We got you a new head coach.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Not good. Hey, it's the coordinator. We'll get you there.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: New coordinator.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: Nothing there.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: Seven years, Moyer.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: He is the most overrated quarterback in the league.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: Disappointing, for sure.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: Overrated.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Who do people talk about the way that people talk
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: about Justin Herbert?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: With no.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: Playoff wins.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I think Trevor Lawrence was in there. I think.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's like four years in, though.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: So somebody that with that many... I mean, I could throw...
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Even though he's got the numbers, I could throw Dak
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: Prescott in there.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: He got two playoff wins. Well, I mean, two in what?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: Ten years?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, ten.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean... I don't know. I think that's...
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: The reason why I say no, it's not a clear-cut
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: one to me, because there's been so many... of them
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: that are disappointing. Look, we saw the list where they
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: had franchise quarterback.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: Drew, Drake May. Drake May was put in that list.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: What are we doing?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: MVP runner-up.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: But I'm just, we knew better.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: I'm just playing the devil's advocate. I'm with you. But,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: you know, I just want to stimulate your mind.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Something about Justin I kind of like.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: I like him, too. Maybe it's just I like him
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: as a person.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: I met him. I played golf with him. Great guy.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: Good looking guy.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Hit the ball a mile.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: Did he?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah. About 370.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: Easy.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: Smooth swing. Nothing like yours.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: 10 yards behind you. Did you say, hey, did you
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: see that Costco they're building out there? And he said,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: really nice. Yeah, it's about the distance between your ball
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: and my ball is the length of that. Did you
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: throw that on him?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't. I wouldn't dare. I wouldn't dare him. He
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: can't chip or putt, though.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: Let's give some love to our Thai kitchen.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: Thai kitchen.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: Thai bird. What's the last part?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Listen, don't get in my head right now. Okay. Hey,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: make sure you get out to Bellevue Collection Dining. There's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: so many great restaurants to choose from today. We had
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: our pregame meal from Thai Kitchen Bird Pepper.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: Bingo.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Let's go. That's hard for your boy.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: You guys need to go.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: It's hard for your boy.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: Really good.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: You'll love it. We had everything. They said, hey, Moyer
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: walked in and said, Just feed us. You guys hook
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: us up.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: You choose. You know better than we do, and they
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: weren't wrong.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: Hey, heads up. Are we done?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: The Browns are about to go 3-1 and control the
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: North right now.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: How crazy is that?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: When we come back, show recap, final thoughts.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: That's coming up next right here on Hawks Live.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: Along with Paul Moyer, I'm Michael Bump. His last segment
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: of the night. Thanks for hanging out with us tonight. Man,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: the Browns are 3-1.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, they beat Carolina at home. I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: thought Carolina was a little better. I mean, you got
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: destroyed by Jacksonville. You beat Pittsburgh, Carolina.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Who's the other one?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: The other one, they weren't any good. I don't remember.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: Hey, wins are wins.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: No, look, you're 3-1 with a quarterback nobody wanted to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: be quarterback. But, yeah, good for them. Cleveland needs a win, man.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: They just, you know, it's just that they need, that
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: organization's been so bad.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: So bad.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: That, you know, it's nice to actually see them kind
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: of win. But we got our own problems.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: Well, how do we win this weekend?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: I think that it's going to come down to just
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: taking care of the dang football. You can say that
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: any game, any football game, right? You take care of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: the football, you should be good. I want to say
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: that the Chargers lost the turnover battle last week against
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: the Bills. but still won that game, and that is
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: extremely rare. But take care of the football, and I
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: think this team should be fine.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: The Bills had five turnovers in one.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: Five fumbles.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: In one.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: That's remarkable in itself. I'll go to Coach McDonald. It's
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: not about them. It's about us. It's what we do.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: I said against the commanders, or the Washington commanders, I said, look,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: they're dangerous. They're 0-2. This team's 0-3. They're dangerous. They're
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: supposed to be a playoff team. They do have a
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: talented quarterback that has been a disappointment. He's completing under 60%
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: of his pass. They have a first-round draft pick running
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: back from last year there. He's capable. He's a quick
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: little guy, not real big, but he's quick. Their offensive
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: line's been a problem. I think their starting tight end
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: is out as well. If we get Julian Love back,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: I feel a whole lot better, and I feel not
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: the doctor, but he said, hey, I'm playing, so hopefully
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: he's playing. It's just go out and play, you know,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: play clean football. We're a very tough, physical, hard team
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: to beat if we don't give it to them. And
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: last week, we just flat out said, here you go.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: You have a chance to beat us, and they end
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: up beating us.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. I mean, it's about you, right?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Quarterback play, defense. What I'm looking forward to is that
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: offensive line. I felt like the D-line was able to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: get into the backfield and force the running back to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: make a move as soon as he got the football.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: wasn't really able to get downhill. Then I'm looking at
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: the right guard. Who are they going to start? Is
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: it going to be a rotation thing? Is Bo Stevens
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: going to be the guy? Is Haynes going to be
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: the guy?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: I think Haynes has played really well. He's got quick feet.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: He's not the biggest guy in the world. Bo is,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: in the running game, I feel like he gets a
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: little bit lower. He can get a little more push.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: But I've been watching. I can't say I've watched every
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: one of his plays, but I go, He does a
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: pretty good job in pass protection. So I'm actually good
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: with either one of them. I think at some point
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: you've got to maybe figure it out. But if you
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: feel like, hey, I can put a different guy in
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: and we'll maybe call a few more different plays, not
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: enough where the defense says, oh, you're throwing it now, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you're running it, I'm okay with that. I think they
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: believe Bo Stevens is going to be a guy for them,
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  Speaker 5: so he's going to get some playing time and some
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  Speaker 5: reps because of that. But I've been pleased with Haynes.
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  Speaker 5: And we'll find out Sunday what Big Ray has to say.
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  Speaker 5: But from what I've seen, I've liked him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Haynes. Obviously, Bo Stevens has some youth
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  Speaker 3: to him. I like A.J. Barter getting involved last week.
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  Speaker 3: I think you should continue to do that. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: with you.
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  Speaker 4: J-Love, there's nothing like having him back there. I think A.J.
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  Speaker 3: Finley didn't do bad. I don't think Rodney Thomas has
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  Speaker 3: done a bad job either.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think Rodney's played well. I mean, it's funny
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  Speaker 5: because he was the veteran guy, and he has. He's
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  Speaker 5: actually been a starter, and he's been productive. So that
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: was a really good signing for us. as well. A.J.
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  Speaker 5: got in there and just, it was one of those,
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  Speaker 5: there was just a bunch, they're going to go after
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  Speaker 5: a backup. And they did. But it wasn't like he
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: wasn't on coverage and he was busting all over. But
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: they were just really good routes and I did, I
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  Speaker 5: thought the corners didn't give enough help and I didn't
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  Speaker 5: think we were jamming the slot. And those are really
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: tough routes to cover and cover to those corner routes
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  Speaker 5: if you're in safety. It basically becomes one-on-one downfield. That's
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: a bit of a mismatch. But he was there. They
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: just made plays on him.
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