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- 0:09Hello everyone and welcome to the KB
- 0:13Radio Network.
- 0:14I am your host Kevin Reed.
- 0:17I'd like to welcome everyone to the show who may be checking it out for the first time.
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- 0:37I welcome you all.
- 0:39Today,
- 0:40we're going to pivot a little bit.
- 0:41We know we talk movies here.
- 0:44We talk reviews.
- 0:45We talk sports.
- 0:49We talk wrestling.
- 0:51But today,
- 0:51we're going to talk about the Reverend
- 0:55Jesse Jackson,
- 0:56who passed away this past Tuesday on February the
- 1:0117th,
- 1:022026, at the ripe young age of 84 years old.
- 1:09Jesse Jackson is known for being a civil rights activist,
- 1:14for being a politician.
- 1:16Of course,
- 1:17he is a Baptist minister as well.
- 1:19He's also known widely for being a prodigy of the great Reverend
- 1:26Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
- 1:28during the civil rights movement.
- 1:30And he is one of the most prominent civil rights leaders in the last,
- 1:35I don't know,
- 1:3620.
- 1:37early
- 1:3821st centuries he he was he was the last of that well i'm not gonna say the last but prominent you know uh figure from that era of of civil rights and segregation and the fight that
- 1:55we are still fighting by the way but i will say as a black man living growing up raised in the
- 2:05I appreciate
- 2:07All of those gentlemen and ladies who pretty much died,
- 2:14died for the cause,
- 2:15man,
- 2:16who fought for the cause during that era and continue to fight because their fight,
- 2:25the sacrifices they made is the reason why
- 2:29I'm able to do what I do or,
- 2:31you know,
- 2:32my children are able to do what they do.
- 2:34And
- 2:35It's because of their efforts,
- 2:37and
- 2:38I greatly appreciate it.
- 2:40I don't care if it's somebody you probably don't 100%
- 2:44agree with or with everything that they say or stand for,
- 2:49whatever the case may be,
- 2:51you still got to give their respect.
- 2:54For example,
- 2:55Louis Farrakhan.
- 2:56I'm not a big Louis Farrakhan fan,
- 3:00but I can acknowledge that Louis Farrakhan is fighting a good fight.
- 3:05And I respect everything that he does,
- 3:07you know,
- 3:07as far as his fight.
- 3:09Now,
- 3:09I may not agree with everything that he says,
- 3:12but I do respect the fight.
- 3:14It's kind of like,
- 3:15and we're going to get back to Jesse Jackson,
- 3:17but it's kind of like during that era of the civil rights movement when you had
- 3:25Martin Luther King Jr.
- 3:27on one side and you had Malcolm X on the other side.
- 3:31Both had two different methods.
- 3:35to achieve a goal but they both had the same goal you know the one was peaceful and non-violent one the other was the opposite they were yin and yang but
- 3:50they had the same goal for those of you who are in the comic books just look at x-men x-men is pretty much the same thing
- 3:59When you look at Professor Xavier and
- 4:04Magneto.
- 4:05Both extremes to their own degree,
- 4:08but different size of the coin.
- 4:10But they had the same goal,
- 4:12or still had the same goal.
- 4:14And that is equality.
- 4:17To be treated as normal,
- 4:20functioning human beings on this planet,
- 4:24more specifically in this country.
- 4:27And Jesse Jackson was right in the middle of all of that.
- 4:32after the assassination of
- 4:35Martin Luther King Jr.,
- 4:37he was the next up,
- 4:39you know,
- 4:40next man up.
- 4:41And he took it and ran with it,
- 4:44literally.
- 4:44I mean,
- 4:45he ran for president twice.
- 4:48He ran for president twice.
- 4:50One of the founders of the Rainbow Coalition,
- 4:53his efforts spanned beyond the United States,
- 4:57you know,
- 4:58going as far as...
- 5:00uh south africa with his uh stance against the uh racial apartheid there in south africa you know uh so much he he did so much and we're gonna go over a good portion of it we'll be here about
- 5:16a week and a half going over all that he did throughout his life through those 84 years and i just can't do it we can't we i don't have the time the voice or the uh
- 5:30or storage space on this program to discuss every little thing that he did throughout his career and life.
- 5:40But we're going to go over some big points that took place throughout his life and his time as a civil rights activist,
- 5:50as a political figure in American politics and so on and so forth.
- 5:59So.
- 6:00Let's dive into the life and times of
- 6:03Jesse Jackson.
- 6:04But,
- 6:04well,
- 6:04before we get,
- 6:05I'm getting ahead of myself.
- 6:06Before we get to this,
- 6:07let me give you my other little tidbit about Jesse Jackson.
- 6:14I never really followed Jesse Jackson growing up.
- 6:19Now,
- 6:19granted,
- 6:20all the civil rights movement happened before I was born,
- 6:25thank God.
- 6:26But,
- 6:26you know,
- 6:27my parents went through it all.
- 6:29And...
- 6:30you know i didn't but i he wasn't taught about like uh martin luther king jr was like uh malcolm x was like megger evers was you know we we didn't get lessons about jesse jackson but now granted when
- 6:46i was growing up he was still in the cultural zeitgeist he was still out you know out and about working,
- 6:55doing God's work.
- 6:57And so it wasn't like he...
- 6:59had a made made for tv movie about him during that time or anything like that so or books or anything of that sort that i was able to pick up on and so i didn't really gravitate
- 7:15to jesse jackson i acknowledged him i knew who he was you know i knew what he was about and but you know following his career in life that i didn't really do that but
- 7:28As I got older,
- 7:30especially more of an adult,
- 7:33which was about a week and a half ago,
- 7:36I really started to pay attention to everything that he did and spoke about,
- 7:42even some of the controversial stuff,
- 7:44which I'm not going to go,
- 7:47which we're not going to talk about.
- 7:48And I'm not doing it because,
- 7:52you know,
- 7:53I feel a certain way about it or I don't believe it and all this other stuff.
- 7:56It's conspiracy.
- 7:57theory and it's a time and a place for that and i'm not i'm not diving in on that and if and if you know you know i'm not i'm not diving into that because there's no proof it's all speculatory and now i'm not i
- 8:14don't know because i wasn't there but i'm gonna speak on the stuff that i do know for a fact that he did throughout his life jesse jackson was born jesse lewis burns
- 8:27believe it or not uh jackson wasn't his name uh burns uh on october the 8th 1941 in greenville south carolina to helen burn and noah lewis robertson and
- 8:43the big thing about that is his mom was 18 when she got married which isn't you know crazy but the crazy part was uh
- 8:55The man she married was 33.
- 8:58So there was a little gap there.
- 9:02But that marriage didn't last too long because a year after Jesse was born,
- 9:08Helen remarried a man by the name of Charles Henry Jackson,
- 9:12who was a post office worker.
- 9:16And he adopted
- 9:17Jesse.
- 9:18Hence, he gave him his last name.
- 9:22But in spite of the fact that he took his stepfather's last name,
- 9:25he still had a close relationship with Robertson when he grew up,
- 9:30as he grew up.
- 9:31So he said that both men,
- 9:35he considered both of them fathers.
- 9:37You know,
- 9:37he had two fathers.
- 9:38He was he was blessed.
- 9:40He had two dads to rear him as a child.
- 9:45But as a child,
- 9:46Jesse Jackson was.
- 9:49pretty much picked on like every other child really but he was picked on for being born out of wedlock and that's a thing at least it was it was it was a thing
- 10:00when I was young,
- 10:01I remember that,
- 10:02I remember,
- 10:04going to school with kids who were pretty much bastards,
- 10:09that's what,
- 10:09that's what a child out of wedlock is,
- 10:12a bastard,
- 10:13but,
- 10:14man,
- 10:15kids were cruel,
- 10:16man,
- 10:16still are,
- 10:17but they will mess with you about anything,
- 10:19and I,
- 10:21I,
- 10:21I seen,
- 10:22I seen a few kids get picked on about that.
- 10:26But...
- 10:27nowadays i don't think that's a thing because i think actually it's crazy how it flipped and i'm gonna get back to jesse i'm gonna get back to jesse but it's crazy how it flips because my kids my daughters were
- 10:45picked on for not being born out of wedlock for for having two parents that were married ain't that crazy they used to come home and tell me this and i was
- 10:55Blown away by that.
- 10:56I'm like,
- 10:56wait,
- 10:59that's a thing?
- 11:00That's a thing?
- 11:01But it just goes to show you how stupid kids are.
- 11:05And I mean all kids,
- 11:07including when we were kids,
- 11:09for those of us of a certain age.
- 11:11Kids are just dumb.
- 11:15They're just dumb.
- 11:16I don't have any other words to describe it.
- 11:19But back to Jesse Jackson.
- 11:22He said that those experience.
- 11:23experiences helped uh motivate him to succeed you know most people would well not most but there's a contingence of people that take bullying or being bullied or being mistreated take
- 11:39that trauma bottle it up and let that draw you down throughout your life and i'm speaking to people uh personally i'm talking about myself i don't know why i'm dancing around i'm talking by myself because I did that.
- 11:53I did that,
- 11:54man.
- 11:54You want to talk about getting picked on.
- 11:56I got picked on so bad in school.
- 11:58The teacher picked on me in school.
- 12:02That's how bad that's how bad it was for me.
- 12:05And so
- 12:06I took all that bottled that up for well,
- 12:09well into my 40s.
- 12:12It wasn't until recently when I started really focusing on my mental health,
- 12:17whereas I was able to let that go.
- 12:19I could not let that go.
- 12:21I mean,
- 12:21it hurt me that bad.
- 12:23And so
- 12:25I'm envious,
- 12:27even though you're not supposed to be,
- 12:29but I am.
- 12:30I'm envious of people that can take that and flip it and allow that to motivate them.
- 12:36Because I wish I would have did that.
- 12:38And Jesse Jackson did that.
- 12:40And so during the Jim Crow segregation laws era,
- 12:48he was taught to go back,
- 12:49go to the back of the bus.
- 12:51You separate water fountains,
- 12:53you know,
- 12:54that was the thing,
- 12:55which we're pretty much heading back to now under Trump.
- 12:58But that was the status quo,
- 13:01and he accepted that.
- 13:03He rode with that,
- 13:05literally,
- 13:06on a bus.
- 13:08He accepted like every other black American around that time because that was the law,
- 13:13you know.
- 13:14But it wasn't until the Montgomery bus boycott in 1955.
- 13:21That's when it all changed for him.
- 13:23He saw that you can stand up against something that is wrong,
- 13:28that you can fight against segregation,
- 13:33you know?
- 13:33So he attended this racially segregated school,
- 13:38Sterling High School in Greenville,
- 13:40where he was elected class president and he finished 10th in the class and he earned letters in basketball and football and...
- 13:50I think baseball,
- 13:51too.
- 13:52He was a super athlete in high school.
- 13:58And so after he graduated in 1959,
- 14:01Jesse Jackson,
- 14:02he rejected a contract from the minor leagues in baseball.
- 14:07And so he could attend the University of Illinois on a football scholarship.
- 14:13And so after his second semester at the predominantly white college there at the
- 14:18University of Illinois.
- 14:20He transferred to North Carolina A&T,
- 14:24which is a historically black college at HBCU.
- 14:28And the reason he changed schools or transferred to
- 14:32North Carolina A&T is because of,
- 14:36of course,
- 14:37racial issues.
- 14:39It was it was it was because they prevented him from playing quarterback at the university and they limit his participation.
- 14:48you
- 14:49I think a public speaking class that he was taking.
- 14:52So he left.
- 14:54He went to HBCU.
- 14:56At North Carolina
- 15:00auntie,
- 15:01he played quarterback.
- 15:02He was elected student body president.
- 15:05Um,
- 15:05he became active in local civil rights protests against segregation,
- 15:12including segregated libraries and restaurants of that sort.
- 15:16He graduated with a,
- 15:18bachelor's bachelor's in science of science degree,
- 15:23in 1964.
- 15:26After graduating,
- 15:28he attended a seminary in Chicago on a scholarship.
- 15:34So he had left the seminary in 1966,
- 15:39three classes short from earning his master's degree to focus full time on the civil rights movement.
- 15:47He was ordained as a minister in
- 15:521968. He will later earn a degree.
- 15:54And the year 2000 from that seminary,
- 15:57based on his previously earned credit,
- 16:00along with his substantial work and life experiences.
- 16:03I guess I guess better late than never.
- 16:06It took him it took him,
- 16:08what,
- 16:0840 years?
- 16:09Well,
- 16:09what,
- 16:0932 years to be exact to get that degree.
- 16:14But hey,
- 16:16at least they gave at least he got it.
- 16:18It well earned,
- 16:19I must say,
- 16:20on his behalf.
- 16:22Swinging back to his
- 16:24activism in the civil rights movement he uh he was known for this commanding public uh attention since his first since he first started working with martin luther king jr and so in 1965 he participated in the selma to montgomery marches which
- 16:43was organized by james bevel uh martin Duquesne and other civil rights leaders in Alabama and
- 16:53Impressed by Jackson's drive and organizational abilities,
- 16:58Martin Luther King Jr.
- 16:59soon began giving
- 17:01Jesse Jackson a role in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference.
- 17:06So in 1966,
- 17:09Dr.
- 17:10Dr.
- 17:10King and Bevel selected Jesse Jackson to head the Chicago brands of the SCLC account of economy on which was Operation Breadbasket.
- 17:24And he was promoted to the national director the following year in 1967.
- 17:30Now,
- 17:31Operation Breadbasket had been started by a leadership of the AC of not the AC,
- 17:38but the SCLC as a job placement agent for black.
- 17:44So under
- 17:45Jesse Jackson's leadership,
- 17:47the key goal was to encourage massive boycotts by black consumers.
- 17:53as a means to pressure white-owned businesses to hire blacks and to pressure goods and services from black-owned firms.
- 18:02Fast forwarding to 1971,
- 18:06Operation PUSH,
- 18:08which is People United to Save Humanity,
- 18:12officially began operations on December 25th,
- 18:15Christmas Day of
- 18:171971. From the beginning,
- 18:19Jesse Jackson planned to use
- 18:22Project
- 18:23push towards politics and to pressure politicians to work to improve economic opportunities for blacks and poor people of all races and so the sclc officials reportedly fell felt the new organization
- 18:39would help black businesses more than it would help the poor in 1978 jesse jackson called for a closer relationship between blacks and the republican party
- 18:51Telling the party's national committee that black people need the Republican Party to compete for us so we can have real alternatives,
- 19:02which
- 19:03I agree.
- 19:04I do agree with that,
- 19:05even though I can't stand the Republican Party,
- 19:07at least what it what it is now.
- 19:10I don't care for it.
- 19:12Don't care for Democrats either.
- 19:13But that's that's a whole nother show.
- 19:16But the options,
- 19:18bro,
- 19:19is almost like we have no options.
- 19:22You know,
- 19:22most black people,
- 19:23most black people vote Democrat as just inherit that you vote Democrat because Republicans don't show that they are willing to help the black community.
- 19:38And now
- 19:39I know there are those people who are out there who feel like,
- 19:43oh,
- 19:43it shouldn't have to focus on black people.
- 19:45Why not?
- 19:45You focus on white.
- 19:49They blatantly.
- 19:50focus on white.
- 19:52I mean,
- 19:53all black folks want is a chance,
- 19:55you know,
- 19:55just a little crumbs off the table.
- 19:57We can't even get that.
- 19:59But we don't have...
- 20:00We don't have an alternative.
- 20:01You know,
- 20:02one side says they are going to help us even though they don't.
- 20:06But at least they say they're going to help us.
- 20:09The other side just flat out say they're not.
- 20:11Now,
- 20:12I do respect them because at least they ain't lying.
- 20:15But that's the truth.
- 20:18We don't have any alternatives.
- 20:20And it's sad.
- 20:21It's sad that it's like we never had a choice.
- 20:25And that's why I changed,
- 20:27you know.
- 20:28I changed.
- 20:28I went,
- 20:29I went.
- 20:29straight independent registered independent you know i'll choose for myself i'm not going to be pigeonholed by a party you know and nobody should be it should not come down to whether it's blue or red a donkey or elephant it shouldn't come down to that just because they have a r or d by their name i'm gonna vote for them that
- 20:50shouldn't be the reason why you vote for somebody you should vote for the best candidate.
- 20:55I don't care what party they're in.
- 20:59I do agree with Jesse Jackson in that sense,
- 21:03you know.
- 21:04Now let's jump to 1983.
- 21:08This is when Kevin Reed was around.
- 21:10I was around around all these good stuff.
- 21:12So
- 21:13I remember all this to a degree.
- 21:17But in 1983,
- 21:20Jesse Jackson announced that he was running for president in the 1984 election.
- 21:28And he was only the second black person to ever do this.
- 21:31And the first one was Shirley
- 21:34Chisholm.
- 21:36I believe her name.
- 21:38They made a movie with her.
- 21:39I think Regina Hall played her on a Netflix movie last year,
- 21:43if I'm not mistaken.
- 21:44But anyways,
- 21:45yeah,
- 21:46he mounted a campaign in 1984.
- 21:50Of course,
- 21:50it wasn't sunshine and rainbows.
- 21:53His candidacy kind of divided support.
- 21:57amongst black politicians one prominent name who didn't support him or endorse him in 1984 was the widow of martin luther king jr coretta scott king she did not endorse
- 22:13uh jesse jackson and it is not for any nefarious reasons i think her reasoning was uh she didn't believe that he would win the nomination so she didn't throw her support behind
- 22:26Needless to say,
- 22:27he didn't win the nomination.
- 22:29He did participate in a few debates,
- 22:32but overall,
- 22:34he didn't win.
- 22:35I don't think he won any caucuses.
- 22:38Definitely didn't win Iowa.
- 22:41He didn't win no votes,
- 22:45to be honest with you.
- 22:46But who went to,
- 22:50that's the trivia question,
- 22:51who did get the nomination?
- 22:54It was against Reagan.
- 22:57Was it Gary Hart?
- 23:00I can't remember now.
- 23:01Now I'm blanking.
- 23:02But anyways,
- 23:03at the 1984 Democratic
- 23:06National Convention,
- 23:08he had a speech.
- 23:08He delivered his Rainbow Correlation speech.
- 23:12And what makes that speech so prominent and etched in the annals of history in this country is because that was the first.
- 23:23speech of any national con uh conference to mention gays and lesbians this was 1984 and it wasn't it wasn't homophobic it was a it was a it was a speech to
- 23:41talk about how america is a quilt or a blanket no america is a i can't uh i'm gonna butcher it so let me shut up but anyways the the Three years.
- 23:53and paraphrasing it now,
- 23:56the threads are made up of whites,
- 23:58of Hispanic,
- 23:59black,
- 24:00Jews,
- 24:01women,
- 24:02Native Americans,
- 24:04farmers,
- 24:07lesbians,
- 24:08gays.
- 24:09It's all made up of this fabric.
- 24:13And that's what America is.
- 24:15It's an American quilt.
- 24:17Just to give you the layman's version of it all.
- 24:20And it's the truth.
- 24:22But that was the first time that
- 24:26America was described that way.
- 24:28It wasn't just for one singular group.
- 24:34It was for everybody.
- 24:37And that's awesome.
- 24:39Of course,
- 24:39I didn't listen to it in 19.
- 24:40I was five years old.
- 24:42But I did listen to it later in life.
- 24:46And I thought it was powerful.
- 24:48It was a powerful message that he spoke.
- 24:51that date.
- 24:54Now,
- 24:55At the same time as the inauguration of,
- 25:01what's his name,
- 25:02Ronald Reagan,
- 25:04I think it was his second term,
- 25:05his second inauguration,
- 25:09Jesse Jackson,
- 25:10he led a protest.
- 25:12He led several hundred supporters to the,
- 25:17I think,
- 25:18I think to the Washington Memorial around that time.
- 25:21And he was stressing that they need to.
- 25:25keep alive the hopes of those who are falling through the safety net and challenged America to protect the poor.
- 25:32And so that was what that protest was about.
- 25:36So we fast forward to 1986 and there was speculation that Jesse Jackson would try it again,
- 25:44that he would run for president again in
- 25:471988. So in October of 1987,
- 25:51Jesse Jackson announced his candidacy.
- 25:54in the 1988 presidential election.
- 25:58At the time of his announcement,
- 25:59polling showed that he had led in nine of the
- 26:0312 southern states that would hold primaries or caucuses in
- 26:09March of the following year.
- 26:12And he led the Democratic field at 27%.
- 26:16So in November,
- 26:17Jesse Jackson announced that Speaker of...
- 26:21the speaker of the california state assembly willie brown would serve as his campaign chair while uh political strategist gerald austin became his campaign campaign manager later that month jesse jackson announced that he would stop his tour of the persian gulf to attend the funeral of his friend uh harold washington who was the mayor of chicago before changing his mind um
- 26:49Jesse Jackson's campaign platform included a call for a single payer system of universal health care,
- 26:57higher taxes on the wealthy and defending spending defense spending cuts intended to reduce federal budget deficits and increase,
- 27:07increase education,
- 27:09housing,
- 27:09welfare and child care spending.
- 27:12Also ratifying the Equal Rights
- 27:16Amendment. An executive order.
- 27:18to ban discrimination against gays and lesbians in federal agencies,
- 27:24the army,
- 27:25and to recognize gay couples as for spousal benefits,
- 27:32reducing the supply and flow of drugs into communities,
- 27:36the creation of a domestic version of the World Bank called the American Investment Bank that would have the authority to
- 27:45sell government bonds to rebuild America's infrastructure,
- 27:49suspending the development of new nuclear weapons in order to eventually ban them altogether,
- 27:56and a very different relationship with the Soviet
- 28:00Union involving a constructive partnership.
- 28:04In the
- 28:05Iowa caucus that took place that following year,
- 28:09Jesse Jackson came in fourth in the voting.
- 28:14He would later go on to lose the
- 28:17New Hampshire caucus to
- 28:21Mike Dukakis.
- 28:23Yeah,
- 28:23Dukakis,
- 28:24whatever it is,
- 28:25by a wide margin.
- 28:27And also on Super Tuesday contest,
- 28:32he did win in Virginia,
- 28:35Georgia,
- 28:35Louisiana,
- 28:37represent
- 28:37Mississippi and
- 28:39Alabama.
- 28:41One of the big surprises...
- 28:43Jesse Jackson had a surprising victory by winning the
- 28:48Michigan primary by a landslide.
- 28:52He blew out the rest of the competition there in Michigan.
- 28:57This made him the frontrunner in the race.
- 29:00But a horse that runs hard doesn't run long.
- 29:05He started to sputter out a little bit,
- 29:07losing the New York primary.
- 29:09He lost the
- 29:10Wisconsin.
- 29:12primaries he uh it was like back to back to back to back and then by the end of the democratic primaries jackson had received uh i think it was 6.9 million votes and he won 11 contests uh seven primaries uh alabama uh the
- 29:32district of columbia georgia louisiana stand up uh mississippi puerto rico virginia wait wait wait wait let me bet puerto rico So,
- 29:42Wait,
- 29:42Puerto Rico is a part of the United...
- 29:45Anyways,
- 29:45yeah,
- 29:46he won those territories in four caucuses.
- 29:50He won
- 29:52Delaware,
- 29:53Michigan, South Carolina,
- 29:55and Vermont.
- 29:56And so the day after the last primaries,
- 29:59Jesse Jackson met with Mike Dacostas,
- 30:02and they discussed some of
- 30:04Jesse Jackson's platforms,
- 30:06such as the
- 30:07Universal Same Day...
- 30:11on-site voter registration and changing the rules before the winner take all delegation and so jackson felt he deserved uh uh uh decocted consideration as a running mate you
- 30:27know in case if you win won't you consider me as your vice president you know and he agreed but added that jackson was
- 30:37with no special or greater consideration simply because he finished second in the primaries and so poland in april found uh the caucus jackson ticket would defeat george bush in that in that presidential race but
- 30:55that either along would lose the bush so you need it you need it both in order to defeat
- 31:04well he was vice president at the time vice president bush um but the caucus he picked uh lloyd lloyd uh i think benson i don't know i don't know i don't know who that i think he was a senator or something and
- 31:21jackson responded you know that he had the right he had the right to make his own little strategic choice well we all know what happened Yeah.
- 31:34We all know what happened.
- 31:35It was a landslide.
- 31:38George Bush defeated him.
- 31:39I'm talking Daddy Bush.
- 31:41He defeated,
- 31:42I mean,
- 31:43wiped the slate with Mike Dacoste.
- 31:46It wasn't even a race.
- 31:47But if everybody's point that if he would have chose
- 31:53Jesse Jackson as his vice presidential candidate,
- 31:57he would have won.
- 31:58And look what happened.
- 32:01So we fast forward,
- 32:02let's fast forward to
- 32:052007. I know we skipping over a lot.
- 32:08There were about 20 years here,
- 32:10but,
- 32:11and he did a lot in those 20 years,
- 32:12but we,
- 32:14we,
- 32:14we've,
- 32:15we,
- 32:15we're going to get to a part that
- 32:17I found funny and,
- 32:21and heartwarming at the same time.
- 32:23It is crazy as the,
- 32:26Jesse Jackson,
- 32:27he,
- 32:28he declared his support.
- 32:31for senator barack obama in the 2007 or 2008 uh democratic presidential primaries so he later criticized obama for acting like he's white in
- 32:49response to the uh jenna six beating case and in case you don't know what the jenna six is in jenna jenna uh that's here in
- 32:59Louisiana,
- 33:00Jenna,
- 33:00Louisiana.
- 33:01That was the case where
- 33:04I think in 2005,
- 33:062006,
- 33:07somewhere up in there,
- 33:08when six black teenagers,
- 33:11they were convicted for beating up this white kid at the high school which they all attended.
- 33:19So the white kid,
- 33:21he was injured by these six teenagers and received treatment at the hospital while the case was pending.
- 33:29It was often cited by the media by his racial injustice in the United States.
- 33:39It was a thing.
- 33:40It was a whole thing.
- 33:44I'm not going to get into it.
- 33:45That's a whole other show.
- 33:47Because thinking about it,
- 33:50my head is starting to hurt.
- 33:51I remember all that took place around that time.
- 33:54But anywho,
- 33:56they was on two opposites.
- 33:59Two opposite sides of the coin on that issue there.
- 34:02And so there was an interview.
- 34:05It was an interview that Jesse Jackson had did.
- 34:09I think it was on Fox News,
- 34:11ironically enough,
- 34:12but he didn't know his mic was on at the time.
- 34:16And he was whispering to somebody that was on the panel with him.
- 34:22And they were talking about Barack.
- 34:23And he said that,
- 34:26you know,
- 34:26he wants to cut his nuts off.
- 34:29And he didn't know he had a live mic.
- 34:32And so he did not like Barack Obama,
- 34:35at least at that moment.
- 34:37And so
- 34:38Jesse was expressing his disappointment at that time.
- 34:42Because Barack Obama had delivered this speech,
- 34:45this Father's Day speech,
- 34:47and he was chastising black fathers.
- 34:50And I remember that speech because I was a black father at that time.
- 34:54Well,
- 34:54still is,
- 34:55but I just became a black father around that time.
- 34:59And he was chastising them,
- 35:00you know,
- 35:01and he wasn't lying.
- 35:03But that rubbed Jesse Jackson the wrong way.
- 35:08And so in another interview...
- 35:11He did with Fox News.
- 35:13Jesse Jackson,
- 35:14he apologized.
- 35:16And he reiterated that he does support
- 35:18Barack Obama for president.
- 35:20So in a,
- 35:24I remember this moment like it was yesterday.
- 35:29Jesse Jackson,
- 35:30he was at
- 35:31Barack Obama's victory rally in Chicago.
- 35:34And I remember that moment when they announced it,
- 35:37when they called it on.
- 35:39whichever news i was watching probably cnn or one of them i forgot which one i was and in chicago at the park you see everybody running in the park to the stage it was just a remote i'm getting goosebumps now thinking about and jesse
- 35:56jackson was there of course and they showed a clip of jesse jackson and he was just in tears he was crying like think about it just think
- 36:08Think about what he did throughout his life and where it all started.
- 36:15Being on back of the bus,
- 36:17drinking in white only.
- 36:18Well,
- 36:18not he could drink white only,
- 36:20but drinking in the colored water fountains and being picked on and all kind of racial injustice that took place and what he was fighting for and what
- 36:36was sacrificed.
- 36:37friends and
- 36:38family dying around him and all this here to the point where you see a black man elected president and he's there to experience it and you saw the tears running down his face and at that moment i didn't feel any emotion at that moment but that did prompt me to call my
- 36:56parents and i called them and i remember my mom answered the phone and she wasn't watching it because she she didn't want to get stressed out and she didn't you know you
- 37:08And because just to back up a little bit,
- 37:14when
- 37:14I talked about what
- 37:16Jesse Jackson went through and all this here,
- 37:18my parents went through all this.
- 37:20My parents went through all this.
- 37:22And,
- 37:23you know,
- 37:24because Jesse Jackson,
- 37:25the same age as my dad would have been.
- 37:27Well,
- 37:27actually,
- 37:28he's a year younger.
- 37:28My dad is a year older than he would have been.
- 37:31But anyways,
- 37:32he went through all that.
- 37:35And they grew up in Mississippi.
- 37:37So you can rub a little hot sauce on what my parents went on in comparisons to the rest of the
- 37:45Jim Crow era.
- 37:46But anywho,
- 37:47I thought about them and what they went through and the stories they told me growing up.
- 37:52And they literally lived on a plantation,
- 37:56you know.
- 37:57So it's not that far-fetched.
- 38:01And so when I called my mom and she answered the phone,
- 38:04and the first thing I said,
- 38:05I said,
- 38:05Mama,
- 38:06we did it.
- 38:07and it all all she did she screamed she like he won and i said he won and my mom she just broke down and i just all i could do was hold the phone and cry it was like people
- 38:24just don't get it bro this goes deeper this goes deeper than what you can imagine to to black folks to black people especially black
- 38:36people who lived through that crap bro and that's how monumental that moment was now i don't care about the politics behind roc obama whether you agree with him or not that's
- 38:51debatable whatever you can feel how you feel but that moment when he won it it was it was like the first time breathing fresh air.
- 39:05You know...
- 39:06And
- 39:06I just felt it at that moment.
- 39:08And it was it was glorious.
- 39:10And so what spawned that off,
- 39:12what inspired me to call my mother was when they showed
- 39:16Jesse Jackson crying.
- 39:19Now,
- 39:19there's two ways you can look at.
- 39:21He was emotional,
- 39:23thinking back and recounting what he went through through his life or.
- 39:31Or he could be thinking about,
- 39:34man,
- 39:35that should have been me.
- 39:37That could have been me.
- 39:39Or.
- 39:40I can't stand this ninja.
- 39:45And so it's up to you to interpret.
- 39:48Right now,
- 39:49we don't know.
- 39:50We'll never know,
- 39:51unfortunately,
- 39:51what he was truly feeling at that moment.
- 39:54But I would like to think that he was reflecting on his life and getting to this moment.
- 40:01It was beautiful,
- 40:02man.
- 40:03It was beautiful.
- 40:04I will always appreciate that moment.
- 40:06Because if I wouldn't have,
- 40:08I wasn't going to call my parents.
- 40:09I really was because my mom had already told me she didn't want to know.
- 40:13She didn't want to know.
- 40:15She'll read about it tomorrow when she wakes up.
- 40:18She didn't want to know.
- 40:19And so if it wasn't for me looking at Jesse Jackson and calling my mom and her having that moment,
- 40:27which allowed me to have that moment,
- 40:30hey,
- 40:30bro,
- 40:31thank you,
- 40:32Jesse,
- 40:32for that.
- 40:33Just for that.
- 40:34Because it will last a lifetime.
- 40:37It's going to last.
- 40:38That was 20 years ago,
- 40:40and I still remember it like it was yesterday.
- 40:42It was one of the most beautiful moments
- 40:45I've ever had with my parents,
- 40:48and
- 40:49I'll never forget it.
- 40:52Jesse Jackson was married to Jacqueline Brown on December 31st,
- 40:571962,
- 40:59and together they had five children.
- 41:03But on February the 17th,
- 41:052026.
- 41:08Jesse Jackson died in his home in Chicago.
- 41:11The family announced the death on social media,
- 41:14and he received tributes from all stretches of the world.
- 41:21You know,
- 41:22Al Sharpton,
- 41:23of course,
- 41:24Bill Clinton,
- 41:26along with
- 41:27Hillary. Barack Obama had a lovely tribute to him.
- 41:32Joe Biden.
- 41:35Current politicians such as
- 41:37Chuck Schumer,
- 41:39Martin Luther King III,
- 41:41Kamala Harris,
- 41:43Andrew Young.
- 41:45The list goes on and on.
- 41:47Even your president,
- 41:50Donald Trump,
- 41:52he actually had kind words.
- 41:54He didn't.
- 41:55Of course,
- 41:55it was written.
- 41:57And everything in my heart tells me he did not write this because it was too legible.
- 42:05It made too much sense and it was too heartfelt to come out of his mouth.
- 42:11But it was a beautiful tribute as well.
- 42:15To a man well-deserved.
- 42:17Just to wrap it up,
- 42:18speaking of well-deserved,
- 42:20let's go over some of the awards and honors that the Reverend
- 42:25Jesse Jackson received over his lifetime.
- 42:28Ebony Magazine named Jesse Jackson to its 100 most influential.
- 42:34black American list.
- 42:36that was back in 1971 and 1979.
- 42:41Jesse Jackson received the Jefferson award before greatest public service benefiting the disadvantage in 1988,
- 42:52the double,
- 42:52NAACP awarded Jesse Jackson is president's award in the year 2000.
- 42:58Bill Clinton awarded Jesse Jackson,
- 43:00the presidential medal of freedom.
- 43:02the nation's highest honor bestowed upon civilians in 2015 jesse jackson was awarded the honorary degree of dr honors uh causa from
- 43:18the university of edinburgh in recognition of decades of campaigning for civil rights and just as recent as 2021 jesse jackson was appointed commander
- 43:32of the Legion of Honor,
- 43:33France's highest order of merit presented by
- 43:37French President
- 43:39Emmanuel
- 43:41Macron for his work in civil rights.
- 43:45Also in 2022,
- 43:48Jesse Jackson received an honorary doctorate from
- 43:53Benedict College.
- 43:56Rest in peace to the Reverend Jesse.
- 43:59Jackson,
- 44:01civil rights icon,
- 44:02politician,
- 44:04Baptist minister.
- 44:06The list goes on and on.
- 44:08But an icon,
- 44:10an American icon.
- 44:12And he will be missed,
- 44:14man.
- 44:15He will be missed.
- 44:17And I hope and pray.
- 44:19This is what I always worry about when people,
- 44:25especially my community,
- 44:26the black community,
- 44:27when crying for help.
- 44:29You know,
- 44:30we,
- 44:30where is that person?
- 44:31Who's that person that's going to stand up and fight for us?
- 44:34You know,
- 44:35we don't have Martin no more.
- 44:36We don't have Malcolm no more.
- 44:37We don't have,
- 44:38we don't have Jesse no more.
- 44:40And so who's that person?
- 44:42Well,
- 44:43you.
- 44:44you're that person you're that person you need to stand up and fight yeah fight one man can't do it alone we all gotta do it together and uh these guys all all of these soldiers who fought for the cause for who walked so we could run uh
- 45:04they're all gone now you know and jesse jackson is is one of the last uh ones from that era who
- 45:13really fought for the cause and uh my hat goes out to him rest in power uh awesome life he lived awesome uh uh bridges that he built for the community and not just the black community not
- 45:31just the black he fought for everybody he fought for those for all of the disadvantage let's just wrap it up like that for the disadvantage for the overlooked you
- 45:43for the poor,
- 45:44for the hungry.
- 45:46That's who he fought for,
- 45:47and he will be missed.
- 45:49And so my condolences to the Jackson family.
- 45:55Very symbolic that he passed away on the 100-year anniversary of Black History Month,
- 46:02right?
- 46:02Dead smack in the middle of Black History
- 46:06Month, the 100th edition.
- 46:09So it is poignant,
- 46:10and that is...
- 46:11uh somewhat poetic i must say and so i would love to know what did you think of jesse jackson did you uh follow his life and career and his speeches and his point i'm telling you i am somebody i
- 46:26still listen to that i am that is one of the best uh affirmational speeches you ever gonna hear it actually is a poem it is it is beautiful beautiful
- 46:41I am somebody,
- 46:44you know.
- 46:45I would love to know what are your thoughts about Jesse Jackson throughout his life.
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- 47:18Network. Everybody,
- 47:19thank you for joining me as we look back at a small portion of the life of the Reverend Jesse
- 47:27Jackson. Rest in peace.
- 47:30I want you all to know that I love you.
- 47:31Continue to love everyone.
- 47:33Until we speak again,
- 47:35you all be blessed.