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The Ron Edwards American Experience: Guest Tom Caldwell J6er Author of The Mouths of the Wicked - 251216 · The Ron Edwards American Experience V2

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, It's the Ron Edwards American Experienced talk
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Speaker 4: show where our unalienable rights are celebrated. And now your
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Speaker 4: radio refreshment, Ron Edwards.
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Speaker 5: Well, good day, gooday, good day.
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Speaker 4: Hello, and how are you.
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Speaker 5: I'm Ron Edwards and welcome to the Run Edwards American Experiences.
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Speaker 5: We have another and joyful, wonderful day during this Christmas
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Speaker 5: Anhnica season. And man oh man, A lot of interesting
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Speaker 5: things going on in our neck of the woods and
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Speaker 5: throughout the world. In fact, a lot of concern, a
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Speaker 5: rightful concern that's been expressed by the Trump administration and
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Speaker 5: many patriotic Americans about the onslaught of communism, not only
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Speaker 5: around the world, but in our own nation, and also
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Speaker 5: the influx, the continued influx of the Islamists pouring into
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Speaker 5: our nation and into the western nations of Europe, not
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Speaker 5: with the permission of the majority of the people, but
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Speaker 5: by our governments that have seemingly turned against us. I
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Speaker 5: find it very ironic that the very people that pay
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Speaker 5: the taxes that pay for these various governments, they're paying
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Speaker 5: for their own demise, whether it's Starmer over well, I
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Speaker 5: can't call it great Britain anymore. Over Britain Matron over France,
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Speaker 5: and it goes on and on and on. Now in
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Speaker 5: our country, we are blessed with President Trump, who is
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Speaker 5: trying his darnness to keep us from being overrun by
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Speaker 5: the Islamist However, there's a lot of people in the
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Speaker 5: government that are opposing our great president. And you know,
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Speaker 5: I just urge anyone, if you like this country, even
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Speaker 5: if you don't like President Trump. Do you like your
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Speaker 5: own life? Do you love your children? Do you love
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Speaker 5: if you're in that age bracket, do you love your grandchildren?
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Speaker 5: Do you love your wife, your husband, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Speaker 5: Do you love more importantly your God. I'm talking about
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Speaker 5: the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that one. And
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Speaker 5: if so, I urge you to start uniting with your
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Speaker 5: fellow Americans who want to preserve our republic. Because we've
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Speaker 5: been warned over and over and over again, not just
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Speaker 5: by right wing conservative pundits, radio talk show hosts like myself,
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Speaker 5: President Trump, and a few others in government. You've been warned.
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Speaker 5: It was seven years ago. Seven years ago, even globally
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Speaker 5: known Islamist. A Muslim tried to warn the West seven
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Speaker 5: years ago. And you know, and we've got that warning
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Speaker 5: for you right here, right now, producer hit it.
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Speaker 6: In the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. This is Tom Caldwell Annison,
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Speaker 6: January sixth, Defendants and proud Navy veterans.
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Speaker 3: You know that's nameless.
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Speaker 5: Hello, No, it's the Islamist giving a warning seven years ago.
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Speaker 5: I sent it to you guys yesterday. But anyway, well,
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Speaker 5: she is bringing that up, ladies and gentlemen. You know,
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Speaker 5: we have been very very ignorant and in some cases
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Speaker 5: very stupid in the West. We've been very naive. We
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Speaker 5: have people running around thinking, oh, they're just like us,
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Speaker 5: there's no difference. And then there are people that are
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Speaker 5: so deranged in their mindsets that you can watch a
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Speaker 5: bunch of individuals committing horrendous acts and if you point
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Speaker 5: it out, you will be considered to be a racist.
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Speaker 5: And I find that kind of retarded to say, you know,
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Speaker 5: not to even fathom such an idea. Unfortunately, there are
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Speaker 5: many people that think that if you point out a
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Speaker 5: criminal activity, you are now dubbed as a racist. And
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Speaker 5: then if you are a Jewish person right in the
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Speaker 5: subway in New York City. Just because you exist as
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Speaker 5: a Jewish person, many other people feel that it's their
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Speaker 5: right to destroy you. Yes, go ahead, here's the warning, folks.
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Speaker 6: And.
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Speaker 7: Let me say this in English so you can understand
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Speaker 7: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: I have no I know you have translation, but I
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Speaker 3: just want to make sure you get it right.
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Speaker 7: They will come a day that we will see far
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Speaker 7: more radical extremist and terrorists coming out of Europe because
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Speaker 7: of the lack of decision making trying to be politically
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Speaker 7: correct or assuming that they know the Middle East and
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Speaker 7: they know Islam and they know the others far better
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Speaker 7: than we do. And I'm sorry, but that's pure.
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Speaker 3: Ignorance, exactly.
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Speaker 5: It is pure ignorance. But in some cases it's also
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Speaker 5: pure evil, because there are many people in political office
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Speaker 5: in this Republic, in Britain, in Germany, in France, in
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Speaker 5: Spain and elsewhere who actually believe that it is evil
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Speaker 5: not to allow those who want to destroy you to
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Speaker 5: come into your nation, that they will oppose you, rather
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Speaker 5: than an individual or group of individuals who would invade
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Speaker 5: your country and try to force your nation to adopt
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Speaker 5: a religion that says, hey, you know what a man
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Speaker 5: can nine year old girl. And if you oppose that
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Speaker 5: amongst white liberals or leftists, you will be called a racist.
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Speaker 5: You will be persecuted. In Great Britain, they will throw
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Speaker 5: you in jail for saying what I just told you,
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Speaker 5: Throw you in jail. Canada is not far behind at
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Speaker 5: all in these kinds of pursuits, and in my humble opinion,
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Speaker 5: these nations are nothing more than canaries in the mine warnings.
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Speaker 5: For the United States of America, you have an Islamist
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Speaker 5: who is taking the mayorship of New York City very soon.
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Speaker 5: And hey, twenty seven percent of the Jewish population of
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Speaker 5: New York City of the voters voted for this guy
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Speaker 5: who hates Jews. And you want to wonder why sometimes
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Speaker 5: people will think that people in the West are not
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Speaker 5: that bright. Well, there is one bright man that I
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Speaker 5: know of. His name is Tom Caldwell. And after the break,
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Speaker 5: he's going to be joining us here on the broadcast
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Speaker 5: talking about his wonderful book, The Mouths of the Wicked,
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Speaker 5: a true January sixth story of corruption, persecution, survival and victory.
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Speaker 5: I read through this book and man oh Man I
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Speaker 5: experienced a full gamut of emotions and thoughts, things ranging
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Speaker 5: from my gosh, I'd like to go to war, you know,
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Speaker 5: and just you want to just take people out that
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Speaker 5: are so evil. And yet at the same time, it
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Speaker 5: builds your faith because you see a wonderful story of
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Speaker 5: coming out of this evil and overcoming. You see how
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Speaker 5: his marriage helped him endure this torture, and now the
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Speaker 5: j sixers are like a family. There's hope coming out
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Speaker 5: of such tragedy. And I look at it also as
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Speaker 5: a story as an example. You see a story like
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Speaker 5: this and you think, man, you feel almost ashamed for
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Speaker 5: being upset over the problems you go through, or in
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Speaker 5: my situation that I've gone through, I'm like, oh, man,
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Speaker 5: I have a lot of growing.
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Speaker 8: Up to do.
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Speaker 5: And at the same time, you feel a lot of
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Speaker 5: shame for your own country, towards your own government that
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Speaker 5: would allow such treatment of people who have done no harm.
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Speaker 5: But yet many people that were in government at that
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Speaker 5: very time, during the Jasic situation were the same people
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Speaker 5: that were letting in all these Islamists who would have
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Speaker 5: were led in to literally destroy us from within. And
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Speaker 5: so you come away from this story realizing that We
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Speaker 5: the people need to really come together like never ever before.
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Speaker 5: fight and decide to win. Because either way they're going
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Speaker 5: and thanks so much for tuning in from throughout America
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Speaker 5: and around the world. Our guest today is Tom Caldwell.
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Speaker 5: He is one of the heroes in my humble opinion,
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Speaker 5: called The Mouths of the Wicked, a truth January sixth,
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Speaker 5: story of corruption, persecution, survival and victory. And we welcome
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Speaker 5: Tom Caldwell. Hello, sir, and how are you.
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Speaker 8: I'm doing very well, Sharan and I are enjoying this
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Speaker 8: greaty to be back on the American Experience with you,
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Speaker 8: and I really appreciate you're talking about our book. We've
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Speaker 8: personally and as satisfying as that which comes from you.
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Speaker 8: You've been talking about the book on and off on
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Speaker 8: And as you know, Ron I started working on this
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Speaker 8: book not in a warm afterglow of the victory that
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Speaker 8: we received even in January of this year that's finally
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Speaker 8: set sharing me free. But I started writing as soon
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Speaker 8: as I was let out of that pit of despair,
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Speaker 8: solitary confinement and a gulag in an awful prison in Virginia,
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Speaker 8: because we didn't know what new dirty tricks the government
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Speaker 8: was going to pull, and that the FBI was going
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Speaker 8: to come and drag me away on false pretenses again,
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Speaker 8: so we wanted to have some of the story and
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Speaker 8: some of the facts down before that happened. The unthinkable.
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Speaker 5: I'd like to ask you, because, like I said, in
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Speaker 5: reading the book, you go through a full gamut of
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Speaker 5: emotions and thoughts about people about the country. You go
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Speaker 5: from hating the country to loving well, the government, maybe
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Speaker 5: not the country, but hating the government. In some ways,
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Speaker 5: your faith in humanity is really watered down quite a bit.
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Speaker 5: But then at the same time it exhibits great faith
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Speaker 5: and great perseverance. I mean, my gosh, before you started
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Speaker 5: writing the book, what was the impetus that made you
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Speaker 5: decide to, you know, what, we're going to do this?
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Speaker 5: And as you were fighting through the different emotions and
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Speaker 5: things that you were going through. To even go through
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Speaker 5: all of that again to put this down into a book.
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Speaker 8: Well, even Sharon knew and I certainly thought, well, gosh,
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Speaker 8: you know, I've got the constitutional protections and the Bill
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Speaker 8: of Rights. That didn't mean anything to the Biden administration,
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Speaker 8: certainly not to the DOJ or the FBI RS at
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Speaker 8: all who locked me away and had me tortured. Yes,
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Speaker 8: I don't use that word lightly. In prison for nothing
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Speaker 8: for a lie and it was difficult. Thank you for
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Speaker 8: acknowledging that. I tell people, you know, let me take
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Speaker 8: you by the hand and show you what it's like
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Speaker 8: when the government turns on their citizens. And I did
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Speaker 8: wrestle with it. As time was going on, Sharon told me, look,
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Speaker 8: this's going to be a long battle. They're not going
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Speaker 8: to give up, even when you show them that you've
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Speaker 8: got irrefutable evidence of your innocence. They know you're innocent,
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Speaker 8: but they don't care. And your listeners should be very
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Speaker 8: chilled by that, because here's a government out of control
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Speaker 8: who says we can take anyone, even the innocent, and
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Speaker 8: persecute them and drive them down. Some people would say, look,
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Speaker 8: you dodge the bullet. Why don't you just go quietly
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Speaker 8: into that good night and go on with your life. Well,
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Speaker 8: I may have dodged a bullet, but then the question remains,
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Speaker 8: shouldn't you shine the light of truth on the gunman
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Speaker 8: who fired the bullet? And that's sort of what we did.
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Speaker 8: And as I went through this, and it took years,
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Speaker 8: your listeners need to know it took years. And even
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Speaker 8: when President Trump signed the pardons, it did not end.
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Speaker 8: The terror did not end for a lot of J
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Speaker 8: six ers and us too. We had phony civil suits.
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Speaker 8: I mean I just got off of the note fly
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Speaker 8: list about a month and a half ago. I mean,
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Speaker 8: all of these things, just trying to put together some
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Speaker 8: of the shattered pieces of our lives. But it was
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Speaker 8: important to let people know this is what happens people
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Speaker 8: that Why why did you write the book? Well, because
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Speaker 8: our story is so unique. January sixth, who were put upon,
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Speaker 8: who were falsely acchus, who were imprisoned for even longer
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Speaker 8: than I was imprisoned. Nobody wants to put the whole
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Speaker 8: January sixth thing in the rearview mirror more than Sharon
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Speaker 8: and I do. Things we're building this book that they
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Speaker 8: had never been allowed to speak about before. We really
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Speaker 8: didn't have the shackles depression against our right of free
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Speaker 8: speech removed until just with an the last couple of months. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: that's the story of what happens when a government goes
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Speaker 8: out of control. But it's more than that. And you know,
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Speaker 8: Ron because you read it. It's a story of redemption.
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Speaker 8: God does work in mysterious ways. In my darkest hours,
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Speaker 8: I had to recognize that my fate laying out in
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Speaker 8: my own hands or anything I could do, it was
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Speaker 8: in the hands of the Lord, the same God that
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Speaker 8: protected a presidential Candidi's life by inches in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, because when reading about some of the things that
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Speaker 5: happened to you, whether you're sleeping on a cold slab
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Speaker 5: in a dark room and it's not even a full
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Speaker 5: sized room by any stretch of the imagination. But how
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Speaker 5: you you know, based upon how you describe it in
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Speaker 5: your book, I just man to me, it is a
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Speaker 5: miracle that you didn't lose faith, that you did not.
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Speaker 3: Give in at.
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Speaker 5: All, the way you were kicked, the way you were,
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Speaker 5: the things that they fed you, the type of water.
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Speaker 5: But yet you had pretty good relationships with some of
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Speaker 5: the inmates in the earlier part of the book, so
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Speaker 5: it seems. And there were those along the way who
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Speaker 5: gave you a glimmer of hope, whether it was someone
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Speaker 5: who brought you a Bible, whether it was someone just
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Speaker 5: a kind word here and there. And it's little things
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Speaker 5: like that that also carry you through, Isn't.
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Speaker 8: It absolutely true? And there are a lot of things
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Speaker 8: that are going to surprise people in this book. And
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Speaker 8: I'm really putting myself out there. When you do that,
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Speaker 8: you make yourself very vulnerable. But it was important, it
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Speaker 8: was important to take people into every single phase of
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Speaker 8: what we had to go through. And the same God
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Speaker 8: that people talk about at this time of year especially,
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Speaker 8: is the one who can really bolster your faith. Faith
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Speaker 8: found me when I was at my lowest and brought
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Speaker 8: me some courage and the right people to come into
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Speaker 8: my life as we went through this saga that raged
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Speaker 8: for years. The right people in my life, and you're
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Speaker 8: one of them, so that we could win against well evil.
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Speaker 8: Everyone has trials in their lives, and our story, my
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Speaker 8: wife Sharon and mine, it might be helpful to anyone
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Speaker 8: questioning their own faith and hope, anyone facing the challenges
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Speaker 8: of their life. And even in that that I called
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Speaker 8: it an arctic floss. It was. It was a frosty
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Speaker 8: castle of doom. There were there were inmates. Inmates know
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Speaker 8: how to talk to each other, how to how to
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Speaker 8: communicate where it's passing, no talking for deduct work or
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Speaker 8: something like that, and they will buck you up. I
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Speaker 8: was surprised at how soon after I was thrown in
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Speaker 8: the solitary it seemed like everybody in that prison knew
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Speaker 8: who I was and why I was there, and the
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Speaker 8: inmates were the ones that embraced me.
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Speaker 5: That's amazing. But it just shows you how and how
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Speaker 5: God will use sometimes the people you would least expect,
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Speaker 5: and those kinds of situations come at just the right
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Speaker 5: time and gives you enough let's say energy, spiritual energy
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Speaker 5: to tide you over, to get you through the next
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Speaker 5: situation that you went through in the book. I mean,
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Speaker 5: it was just one thing after another, even down to
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Speaker 5: the little tricks that they would play on the telephone
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Speaker 5: when you would try to talk to your wife and
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Speaker 5: then they cut it off and then you'd.
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Speaker 3: Have to call back.
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Speaker 5: You're charged three dollars and eighty five cents for the
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Speaker 5: first minute, and they knew that that's what they were doing.
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Speaker 5: And I am amazed that how much you still love
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Speaker 5: this country and everything because you're able to discriminate the
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Speaker 5: crucial differences and understand that it is not the entire
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Speaker 5: makeup of the country, but it is. You know, I
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Speaker 5: us today from throughout America and around the world. Our
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30:33
Speaker 5: one of the historic my opinion, historic Jay Sixers, who
30:38
Speaker 5: was done wrong by the federal government. He wrote a
30:41
Speaker 5: great book called The Mouths of the Wicked, a true
30:43
Speaker 5: January sixth story of corruption, persecution, survival, and victory. And
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Speaker 5: Tom again, welcome back. I am, like I said, I
30:57
Speaker 5: am truly amazed at your book as it fully displays
31:04
Speaker 5: this thing should be made into a movie or a series.
31:09
Speaker 5: I really, I really believe that, Tom, because because it
31:13
Speaker 5: is so well written and so detailed, and to see
31:18
Speaker 5: many of the things that are that are described in
31:20
Speaker 5: this book, I could see this stuff on video, and
31:23
Speaker 5: I think there would be a huge, huge response to
31:27
Speaker 5: this story.
31:30
Speaker 8: If we can get in top of Angel Films or
31:33
Speaker 8: Kevin Sorbo or somebody, maybe, maybe, maybe we could make
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Speaker 8: that happen. And Ron, you're more than welcome to play
31:38
Speaker 8: me if you'd like.
31:41
Speaker 5: Okay, I'd have to jump in ind of paint, but yeah,
31:45
Speaker 5: we could work that out.
31:46
Speaker 3: I guess.
31:49
Speaker 8: Well, at a little poetic freedom there, we can do
31:52
Speaker 8: what we want to do. And you know, you mentioned
31:54
Speaker 8: earlier that you thought that I was heroic, and I said, well,
31:59
Speaker 8: I really don't feel that way, but you're very kind
32:03
Speaker 8: in your comments like that, And all I can say
32:07
Speaker 8: is that sometimes people are called to do something that
32:11
Speaker 8: is outside what they would normally do, and that's what
32:15
Speaker 8: I was called upon to do. So I don't really
32:19
Speaker 8: I don't really know how to quantify what I did,
32:23
Speaker 8: but you know, you just kind of turn to the Lord.
32:26
Speaker 8: And as I said earlier, when I was at my weakest,
32:29
Speaker 8: I'm sorry the phone was going off. This is the
32:31
Speaker 8: beauty of live radio. I really really enjoyed it. But
32:36
Speaker 8: you know, you just kind of find something within yourself.
32:38
Speaker 8: And we've talked about the times that I was the lowest,
32:43
Speaker 8: and the book talks about the whole raft of thing,
32:45
Speaker 8: the FBI attacking our farm and putting my wife's life
32:50
Speaker 8: in jeopardy, where I thought that they were going to
32:52
Speaker 8: murder her on our front steps, and they getting very
32:54
Speaker 8: very close all the way through my incarceration, my mistreatment,
32:58
Speaker 8: all the dirty tricks in trial. People will be appalled
33:03
Speaker 8: to find out what was happening in these secret tribunals
33:06
Speaker 8: and all of that. But you know, I'm just a
33:08
Speaker 8: regular guy. I tell people I'm average. In fact, I'm
33:11
Speaker 8: probably more average than average. And there were times when
33:14
Speaker 8: I was just as we say out here in the
33:16
Speaker 8: Valley of Virginia, I was lower than a snake's belly
33:19
Speaker 8: and a wagon run. I just didn't know how I
33:21
Speaker 8: could go on, And thank goodness, I did have a
33:24
Speaker 8: very strong woman, a strong woman of faith, who said,
33:29
Speaker 8: you know what, We're going to fight them all the way.
33:31
Speaker 8: And when I was down, she was, you know, bullyant
33:36
Speaker 8: and vice versa. And we fought and fought and fought.
33:40
Speaker 8: And I don't know if this heroism so much as
33:42
Speaker 8: maybe the survival instinct and the Lord gave us so
33:46
Speaker 8: many miracles along the way. One of the things in
33:49
Speaker 8: the book. And I'll be interested in your perspective on this.
33:52
Speaker 8: You can tell me I'm wrong, and that would be okay.
33:54
Speaker 8: But you know, I go through I think I go
33:59
Speaker 8: through so many emotions there. I think I'll make a
34:03
Speaker 8: pretty compelling argument that God is alive and God is
34:06
Speaker 8: with us, and I try to answer the question that
34:10
Speaker 8: so many people have and because I had it, and
34:13
Speaker 8: I had it at three o'clock in the morning when
34:15
Speaker 8: I couldn't sleep and my life was in jeopardy. Remember,
34:18
Speaker 8: they had no evidence that I had done anything wrong,
34:21
Speaker 8: but they wanted to put me in prison for life.
34:24
Speaker 8: They controlled the media block, they controlled the judge, they
34:27
Speaker 8: controlled it all, But I said, why doesn't God answer
34:32
Speaker 8: my prayers? And many people say that if God were alive,
34:37
Speaker 8: if he were real, why doesn't he answer me? And
34:41
Speaker 8: the way I found out was by staying in faith.
34:45
Speaker 8: I learned that he heard immediately, he knew what we needed.
34:51
Speaker 8: And the Bible is still with stories like this. And
34:54
Speaker 8: yet his timing is not our timing. His compassion for
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Speaker 8: his people is the same. His love for us is
35:02
Speaker 8: more than we can possibly imagine. But in my personal situation,
35:08
Speaker 8: she had to do a work in me to make
35:11
Speaker 8: me from a bad guy to a good guy.
35:12
Speaker 4: I was a good guy.
35:13
Speaker 8: I was innocent, I was an innocent victim and all this.
35:16
Speaker 8: But we have to learn patience, and we have to
35:20
Speaker 8: learn perseverance, and we have to develop our character. And
35:24
Speaker 8: the most important thing for me is to learn how
35:27
Speaker 8: to forgive. And people who are listening to this podcast
35:30
Speaker 8: are going to say, how can you possibly forgive people
35:32
Speaker 8: who light and shedd and stealed and enrich themselves at
35:37
Speaker 8: you on your broken body, And I say, that was
35:41
Speaker 8: the hardest thing I had to learn how to do.
35:45
Speaker 5: Speaking of learning how to forgive the almost unforgivable, it's
35:51
Speaker 5: funny you mentioned the Secret Tribunal. I had just turned
35:56
Speaker 5: to that chapter and ended on page two eleven, where
36:00
Speaker 5: it talks about how it says you said I never
36:03
Speaker 5: bought firearms into the district, as the DOJ had claimed.
36:07
Speaker 5: I never entered the capitol building. I never battled with police.
36:11
Speaker 5: I never climbed over or moved barricades. I never conspired
36:15
Speaker 5: with anyone to break the law. I broke no laws.
36:18
Speaker 5: Yet you were treated worse than most criminals are treated
36:23
Speaker 5: to this day in New York cities, who are actually
36:27
Speaker 5: guilty of things all the way up to rape and murder.
36:34
Speaker 5: It's startling that it is true in a country such
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Speaker 5: as this.
36:39
Speaker 8: What say you when you find yourself a target of
36:43
Speaker 8: a despotic government? The Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the
36:49
Speaker 8: institutions of man mean nothing. You are guilty until proven innocent.
36:54
Speaker 8: Instead of what we've always been taught. This the exact
36:58
Speaker 8: opposite truth and didn't mean anything in my case. And
37:03
Speaker 8: then the case is so many j sixers, And you know,
37:08
Speaker 8: we proved at court all of those things that you
37:11
Speaker 8: just kicked off. We proved that all the things that
37:14
Speaker 8: were said in the media and all this stuff. Remember
37:17
Speaker 8: the media sent around the world the fact that I
37:20
Speaker 8: was the mastermind of J six. It was all my fault,
37:26
Speaker 8: you know. We proved all these things were phony, and
37:28
Speaker 8: yet we were tried in a secret tribunal and the
37:33
Speaker 8: jury was selected from a jury pool of people who
37:36
Speaker 8: had voted ninety five percent in the presidential election against
37:42
Speaker 8: President Trump, against conservative values, and against Christian values. So
37:47
Speaker 8: we really felt that we did not have even a
37:50
Speaker 8: puncher's chance. Your listeners might be interested to know that
37:54
Speaker 8: the Department of Justice was sixty five and zero until
37:58
Speaker 8: they took me to trial, sixty five and zero guilty
38:02
Speaker 8: on every single count against every defendant that had the temerity,
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Speaker 8: the unmitigated goal to try to go to a jury
38:10
Speaker 8: trial in Washington, d C. Now, I was tried with
38:13
Speaker 8: four other people who were members of this group called
38:15
Speaker 8: the Oath Keepers. I was not a member, But they're
38:19
Speaker 8: not a white supremacist group or anything like that. They
38:23
Speaker 8: were kind of a regional and national community service group.
38:28
Speaker 8: There was to kind of go in there and help
38:30
Speaker 8: when there's been a flood or there's been a tornado
38:33
Speaker 8: or something, long before FEMA gets in there. That's what
38:36
Speaker 8: they do as an organization. But when we went to
38:40
Speaker 8: trial together because they tried to tell the world that
38:43
Speaker 8: I led the oathkeepers and an attempted overthrow of the government.
38:48
Speaker 8: We had no chance. The deck was stacked. And yet,
38:52
Speaker 8: how does one explain not guilty, not guilty, not guilty
38:56
Speaker 8: for all of these conspiracy charges with which I was charged.
39:00
Speaker 8: How could that happen? The Lord did a tremendous work,
39:04
Speaker 8: and he allowed through my testimony, Sharon's testimony, I'm the
39:10
Speaker 8: skill of our plucky attorney, mister David W. Fisher of
39:14
Speaker 8: glen Burney, Maryland, proved that all these things were phony.
39:18
Speaker 8: Even though the government will sell the evidence from us,
39:21
Speaker 8: wouldn't let witnesses testify, would not let us show the
39:26
Speaker 8: government's own CCTV which exonerated me. So how did we win?
39:31
Speaker 8: I believe the Lord had our hand on it.
39:36
Speaker 5: Obviously he did. You are out, and you are alive,
39:39
Speaker 5: and you are recovering your life with your wife. And
39:43
Speaker 5: that's the beauty of all of this, that the Lord
39:46
Speaker 5: does take care of his own. But sometimes when you're
39:49
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39:51
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Speaker 3: And that's what it seems like. And I get it.
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Speaker 5: I'm Ron Edwards. Thanks for being with us this day.
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Speaker 5: Our guest is a mister Tom Caldwell. He's a Jay sixer,
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Speaker 5: and you wrote a great book, The Mouths of the Wicked,
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Speaker 5: a true January sixth story of corruption, persecution, survival and victory. Tom.
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Speaker 5: You know you did have a lot of spiritual health
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Speaker 5: in you during your struggle. When you were going through
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Speaker 5: what you were going through. It was a group called
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Speaker 5: the Zechari had two five prayer Warriors, which I am
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Speaker 5: a member, and it's headed up by my wife Denise,
45:33
Speaker 5: and we were praying for you every single day and
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Speaker 5: man oh man, oh man so and we weren't the
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Speaker 5: only ones. We know that, but just wanted to let
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45:50
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45:57
Speaker 5: we thank God for your victory. We thank God for
45:59
Speaker 5: the book that you've put together. You know, some of
46:02
Speaker 5: the details are a bit irritating in your chapter about
46:08
Speaker 5: the secret tribunal. Why don't you share with us about
46:12
Speaker 5: what that was about in your own words of course,
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Speaker 5: and man, oh man, let's say you sir.
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Speaker 8: Well, that was a particularly awful time. It was about
46:26
Speaker 8: ten and a half weeks altogether. And as I pointed out,
46:30
Speaker 8: there really wasn't any evidence that I had done anything wrong.
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Speaker 8: Hence the words from someone or nine the mouths of
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Speaker 8: the wicked kind of the book named itself, if you
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Speaker 8: know what I mean, because there was there was nothing
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Speaker 8: a trial that was offered as evidence. It was only this, oh,
46:50
Speaker 8: this never ending diatribe, this stuff coming from you know, dispute,
46:55
Speaker 8: from the fantasy canon of the prosecutors. And we need
46:59
Speaker 8: to talk about why the prosecutors would do things like
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Speaker 8: this and what they did in much the same way
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Speaker 8: as we see in the media played out. Even now
47:09
Speaker 8: you find out that when people say things that leftists
47:13
Speaker 8: don't like, those people are decried again and again as
47:17
Speaker 8: liars or racist or whatever. It was the same in
47:20
Speaker 8: this trial. The DOJ lawyers pulled the same stuff. Even
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Speaker 8: when they themselves with hold, hide, forge, and even delete evidence,
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Speaker 8: they accuse the targets of their wrath of having destroyed evidence.
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Speaker 8: That's why there is no evidence, because we must have
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Speaker 8: destroyed it. I think, I said in the book, because
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Speaker 8: I believe this, every accusation they make is their own confession.
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Speaker 8: It's sort of like the old playground game of somebody
47:48
Speaker 8: insults you, and you say, I know you are, but
47:50
Speaker 8: what am I? I know you are about what am I?
47:52
Speaker 8: It just like they make all of these accusations, and
47:55
Speaker 8: yet they're really confessing to their own sins. It's not
47:58
Speaker 8: up to me to provide absolutely, but I can certainly
48:01
Speaker 8: point out how they did all of these dirty tricks.
48:05
Speaker 8: And you know, people ask me, well, how would you
48:07
Speaker 8: how would you solve the system? How would you fix
48:10
Speaker 8: all of this? Well, one way is to remove the
48:13
Speaker 8: cover under which they operate, which is called absolute immunity.
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Speaker 8: I bet most of your listeners are not aware that
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Speaker 8: the lawyers of the Department of Justice at Main Justice
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Speaker 8: in DC and throughout the ninety four regional areas across
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Speaker 8: the country can do whatever they want obfuscate, you know,
48:35
Speaker 8: bring in witnesses, suborn, perjury, make up false evidence. They
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Speaker 8: can do that, and they do do that, not just
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Speaker 8: against me, not just against other JA sixers, but they've
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Speaker 8: done it forever, and they do that because they know
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Speaker 8: that they can never be taken to task, they can't
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Speaker 8: be sued civilly, and they can't even be removed from
48:56
Speaker 8: their jobs because of this thing called absolute immunity. Interesting enough,
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Speaker 8: the judges have the same thing. Now recently this has
49:04
Speaker 8: been supported by the Supreme Court. This has been challenged
49:07
Speaker 8: because people say, look, there's got to be some consequences here,
49:11
Speaker 8: and we see it again in our daily lives. These people,
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Speaker 8: you know, lawyers and prosecutors that let repeat offenders, people
49:21
Speaker 8: who step across the line all the time, habitual linsteppers.
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Speaker 8: They let them out of prison, They cut of slack.
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Speaker 8: Judges don't go forward, give people a slap on the
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Speaker 8: wrist when they do go to trial, and most of
49:34
Speaker 8: the time they're just throwing the bad guys back on
49:38
Speaker 8: the street to pray. Against regular citizens. Well, when the
49:43
Speaker 8: government DJ decides that they want to go after you,
49:46
Speaker 8: they do the same thing. And they know that they
49:48
Speaker 8: operate in a consequence free environment. One of the big
49:51
Speaker 8: revelations that I think you probably found in the book
49:54
Speaker 8: that I will share with your listeners right now is
49:56
Speaker 8: did you know that in every one of those US
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Speaker 8: attorney's areas that I just described across the country, all
50:03
Speaker 8: right in Virginia we got the Eastern District in the
50:05
Speaker 8: Western District of Virginia, those are two big ones that
50:08
Speaker 8: the senior US attorney, called the US Attorney for that
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Speaker 8: district has a special slush fund of money, taxpayer money,
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Speaker 8: and they can award to their assistant US attorneys cash
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Speaker 8: bonuses for guilty verdicts, even it's that people are not guilty,
50:28
Speaker 8: those cash awards being up to and including one million
50:32
Speaker 8: dollars for a guilty verdict. Now that's a bold statement,
50:36
Speaker 8: right Tom. How can you make a statement like that.
50:39
Speaker 8: It's a very secret kind of thing. But you know what,
50:41
Speaker 8: when I was a contractor, long before this thing happened,
50:46
Speaker 8: I actually worked for the most crooked part of the
50:49
Speaker 8: Department of Justice. It's called the Executive Office of US
50:52
Speaker 8: Attorneys that are located on Seventh in East Street, Northwest
50:56
Speaker 8: and the parkings of the basement. It costs me sixteen
50:58
Speaker 8: dollars a day to the park there. But I'm the
51:01
Speaker 8: guy that wrote the code for the electronic computer generated
51:06
Speaker 8: reports that showed the status of those monies and who
51:09
Speaker 8: got them by week, by month, by quarter, and by year.
51:14
Speaker 8: For every one of those ninety four areas across the country,
51:17
Speaker 8: it would touch the Oracle database overnight and serve up
51:21
Speaker 8: to management on their desktop computers their refreshed report. I
51:26
Speaker 8: wrote it, and I can prove it, so I know
51:29
Speaker 8: where the bodies are buried. And when I found out
51:32
Speaker 8: that revelation, it just cut me to the quick. I
51:35
Speaker 8: couldn't believe it. And when I talked to the head
51:38
Speaker 8: of that department there, I said, well, what happens. What
51:41
Speaker 8: happens when you get up to the limit of the
51:44
Speaker 8: money that you have assigned that people can give away
51:47
Speaker 8: to these attorneys for doing whatever. They said, Oh, well,
51:51
Speaker 8: we just go back to Congress and we get more money.
51:53
Speaker 8: After all, most of the congressmen and senators are lawyers,
51:56
Speaker 8: aren't they. Ha ha ha. The system is so rigged
52:00
Speaker 8: against the people ron it is maddening. And this is
52:04
Speaker 8: just part of the stuff that's in this book, which
52:06
Speaker 8: I hope people will find engaging in raging and maybe
52:11
Speaker 8: encouraging and inspirational too. This is the kind of stuff
52:14
Speaker 8: that goes on in the dark where people can't see.
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Speaker 5: Well, how the recommend the book folks read and it's
52:21
Speaker 5: one of those books that when you sit down and
52:23
Speaker 5: read it, you keep going. There's no let up in
52:28
Speaker 5: the book, and some books it's up and down, but
52:31
Speaker 5: this book is it's like a thriller all the way through,
52:34
Speaker 5: and then you find out some very interesting details about
52:38
Speaker 5: the government and how evil things can be when evil
52:41
Speaker 5: people are in control. And that's what it's all about.
52:44
Speaker 5: There are people that are in the government that's like,
52:47
Speaker 5: for instance, minute in Colorado, Tina Peters, she's going through
52:53
Speaker 5: it right now for no reason other than the fact
52:56
Speaker 5: that they're angry because she actually did her job fraud
53:01
Speaker 5: in the voter process in Minnesota, and she's in jail
53:05
Speaker 5: because of it, not because she did anything wrong, but
53:08
Speaker 5: because she found wrong. And it's like, how dare you moment? Well,
53:13
Speaker 5: you have just a few seconds, Tom, do you have
53:18
Speaker 5: a couple of seconds, Maybe you'd like to give a
53:21
Speaker 5: short prayer for Tina Peters.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, and you we hope that Tina can be released.
53:27
Speaker 8: You know, the President mentioned her at a press conference yesterday.
53:31
Speaker 8: I know that a good Christian man has been out
53:35
Speaker 8: there his special envoy, if you will, to go out
53:39
Speaker 8: there to find out what's really going on in that
53:41
Speaker 8: prison and whatnot, and is a gentleman named ed Martin.
53:46
Speaker 8: Ed Martin was supposed to be the new US Attorney
53:49
Speaker 8: for the District of Columbia, but the forces of the
53:52
Speaker 8: darkness blockhown from actually being in that position, so the
53:56
Speaker 8: President created a new position for him. We're very hopeful
53:59
Speaker 8: that n Peters will actually get some some justice.
54:07
Speaker 5: We're at we're at the end of the program, and
54:09
Speaker 5: now that I see that, my time is a thank
54:11
Speaker 5: you so much for your time, folks. We are going
54:13
Speaker 5: to pray for your nation, your friends, your family, and
54:15
Speaker 5: even your enemy said they get.
54:17
Speaker 3: It right before it's too late.
54:18
Speaker 5: Treat others the same way you want to be treated.
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Speaker 5: I'm running, which until next time, excelsior.
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Speaker 8: Even the the that's all, folks, tags that stage right