Latest / Best of Business / Shane Solly: Harbour Asset Management spokesperson on markets pricing in rate cuts ahead of OCR update
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Now just two more sleeps before the Reserve Bank makes
- 0:19Speaker 2: its call on the OCR And there's an interesting dynamic
- 0:21Speaker 2: at play here. Markets are firmly pricing in rate cats,
- 0:24Speaker 2: but economists are quite divided. Shane solely from Harbor Asset
- 0:27Speaker 2: Managements with me.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Hey, Shane, Yeah, Hey, Heather, what's the market pricing.
- 0:31Speaker 2: In at the point at this point in time?
- 0:32Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look, I think that's a really good point.
- 0:34Speaker 3: There is a bit of division out of the market,
- 0:36Speaker 3: the whole sell interest market. This is what we're dealing
- 0:38Speaker 3: every day. It's pricing at about zero point two percent
- 0:41Speaker 3: of a rate cut, so zero point two percent of
- 0:43Speaker 3: a rate cap for this meeting, which implies a high
- 0:46Speaker 3: but not one hundred percent probability of a normal point
- 0:48Speaker 3: two five percent cut. But what is more importantly, I
- 0:52Speaker 3: look out to November, there's a whole one percent, just
- 0:55Speaker 3: under one percent priced and takes the official cash rate
- 0:58Speaker 3: to just under four and a half. And if I
- 0:59Speaker 3: go out to July this time next year, we're a
- 1:02Speaker 3: whole two percent three and a half, So pretty interesting timing.
- 1:06Speaker 3: It's all about the tone, as many things are here
- 1:09Speaker 3: that it's all about whether we get a dubbish pause
- 1:11Speaker 3: or a hawkish using.
- 1:13Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be dubbish, isn't it, Shane?
- 1:15Speaker 2: Is there any other option?
- 1:16Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it's the evidence is starting to
- 1:20Speaker 3: accumulate that allow us, the Reserve Bank and other central
- 1:22Speaker 3: bank is to step away from current settings they're getting.
- 1:26Speaker 3: They're just too tight for where we are. Economy slowed,
- 1:29Speaker 3: inflation slowed. So it's whether we actually see a cut
- 1:33Speaker 3: this round or it's pushed out. Its tone you know,
- 1:38Speaker 3: will be dubbish, it will be hey, we're going to
- 1:40Speaker 3: get to cut rates. We're going to be there. And
- 1:42Speaker 3: I think interesting really hither is whether the trading banks
- 1:47Speaker 3: through mortgages actually do the hard yards for the Reserve Bank.
- 1:51Speaker 3: There's still room for them to keep cutting mortgage rates,
- 1:54Speaker 3: given where that whole cell intrastate, that whole celle funding
- 1:57Speaker 3: markets moved.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's tough for people out there. I mean
- 1:59Speaker 2: you'll have seen what Nick Scale is going through, right.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well you know Nick Sally Australian retailer. It's
- 2:06Speaker 3: all about consus discrition Rand they came out we did
- 2:10Speaker 3: this week and said, guess what what's hurting us in
- 2:13Speaker 3: our results is New Zealand June and July. We just
- 2:17Speaker 3: saw traffic drop down thirty five percent Australia in contrast
- 2:21Speaker 3: in Philly stable, so similar they're telling us that things
- 2:24Speaker 3: are much tougher in New Zealand and Australia. We know it.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Sometimes when you hear it from somebody externally, it's confirmation.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Yeah, but a good news from Fletcher Building today. What
- 2:33Speaker 2: do you make of that agreement to sell one hundred
- 2:35Speaker 2: percent of trade Link.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think it was expected, but nonetheless it's
- 2:39Speaker 3: great that they've done it. It's been sold to a
- 2:41Speaker 3: US based family group, pretty good price. In the process,
- 2:44Speaker 3: they're used to pay down debt. It's a little bit
- 2:47Speaker 3: of a win versus you know, we've had a bit
- 2:49Speaker 3: of bad news with Golden Bay supply disruption last week
- 2:52Speaker 3: and similarly, we're all the eyes are on what happens
- 2:56Speaker 3: on Wednesday next weddingstation. Say, we're the four year result
- 3:00Speaker 3: is their potential for additional provisions for some of these
- 3:02Speaker 3: major projects. But simainly this puts them in a much
- 3:05Speaker 3: better financial position to potentially of sit liabilities related to
- 3:10Speaker 3: the Ipleix pipe litigation and Western Ausrail or the silicosis arrest.
- 3:14Speaker 3: It's emerging, so certainly it's helpful and then the right
- 3:18Speaker 3: direction for flectures.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Shane's good to talk to you mate. Look after yourself.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Thank you for that, Shane, Solly Harbor, Asset Management.
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