Latest / Boss Rush Podcast - A Podcast about Video Games / Nintendo Switch 2 Makes Sales History
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- 0:24Welcome to the Fosters podcast. Great place to play games
- 0:27better. I am I, I am your host.
- 0:33The PC must race. Laurent Dawkins, welcome back to
- 0:36the show. Glad you're here with us.
- 0:39And I'm also glad for my Co host Mr. Patrick Klein.
- 0:42What's up, PK Bauer? Yo I am back again and we are
- 0:46already have a hot show I. Know.
- 0:49Why? I mean, we got we got Eddie all
- 0:50riled up. It's like it's coming in
- 0:52smoking. Like, jeez.
- 0:54Yeah. Like so without.
- 0:55Yeah. So he doesn't need an
- 0:56introduction. But hello Eddie.
- 0:59I would love an introduction still.
- 1:03I think the first, I think the first 6 minutes of the cast like
- 1:05basically was your intro. Everybody, you know, it's your
- 1:09pablok. Papa Eddie V, of course.
- 1:11Gwyneth Council, Nintendo. I'm a big defender.
- 1:13I'm a fan of it. And you know, that's me, that's
- 1:18my company. Yeah, the power block, the power
- 1:20block Papa was popping off. Oh yeah, he was jumping on that
- 1:24grenade. Dare commercial name Shigaro
- 1:29Miyamoto. He's got a shrine of Shigaro
- 1:31Miyamoto back there somewhere. It was like, it was like man,
- 1:34like what was was was his. Finger was was Miyamoto's.
- 1:36Finger on your on your shoulder when you were saying all that.
- 1:39If my I I wouldn't even know what to do.
- 1:42If I met me a model in person, I'm I would I would like are
- 1:47you? Keely with with EDA Kojima,
- 1:50would you be like that? Not on that level, no.
- 1:54Yeah, 'cause 'cause I, I swear Keely, like just humps that
- 1:57man's leg every time. A. 100%.
- 2:00Yeah. And I also want to, I also want
- 2:04to welcome back to the The Boss Rush podcast.
- 2:08A. A.
- 2:09A. Excellent friend of the show and
- 2:11All Star here. Boss Rush, my buddy from the
- 2:14Crossroads podcast show, Mr. Storion Yovich.
- 2:18Welcome back, man. It's good to be back, It's good
- 2:21to be back hanging out with you guys, and it's good to be just
- 2:23razzing Eddie again as just like the old days, getting them going
- 2:27about like Nintendo messed up with those Switch game key
- 2:30cards. What's up with that, Eddie?
- 2:33Then talk about Super Mario 3D All Stars.
- 2:36And then we we watched the we watched the MPD list or whatever
- 2:40it is now and for Missu to show the sales that the ganky car
- 2:45stuff still selling so. Well, I tell you, I tell you
- 2:48what, for all listeners and viewers out there, we're going
- 2:50to get a lot done here in two hours or less than tonight
- 2:54because we're going to, we're going to rain that Eddie V guy
- 2:57in tonight. Yes, yes.
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- 3:34Yeah, Yeah. You know what?
- 3:36Yeah. Your right story.
- 3:37Your right story. I'm sorry.
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- 3:57More I'm just totally reading Corey right now, like even
- 4:01though he hasn't said anything, he could just be like, what what
- 4:05you're making decisions with me. Yeah, like, I mean, yeah, like
- 4:10it it, it's redundant, doesn't put that way.
- 4:12Just put it back. For one show, and now the whole
- 4:14show's. I, I, I run the Nintendo stuff
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- 5:00All right. Oh, Congrats on the milestone.
- 5:03Congrats on the milestone. On your YouTube channel, you
- 5:05have 666 subscribers. What's that about that?
- 5:09That sounds like the work of the devil.
- 5:11That's what that sounds like. OK, All right.
- 5:13You know what? You know what, though?
- 5:14Like if we have to like, if we have to like, you know, like go
- 5:17into a blood pack, though, to get to 1000.
- 5:19I, I, I I'm willing to do it. I'm just saying, to save the
- 5:22damned souls of the Boss Rush network, please subscribe to the
- 5:26YouTube channel. Right.
- 5:29Now. Yeah, right now do it.
- 5:32We're at the crossroads right now.
- 5:33We're about to make that deal. About to make Don't make that
- 5:37deal. Did some Did somebody say
- 5:39crossroads the. Old days.
- 5:45You gentleman doing OK tonight? Yeah.
- 5:50We're ready to have some fun, Eddie.
- 5:51You good? Yeah, it's just been just been
- 5:55working like 1516 hour days for the past week and a half.
- 6:00A lot of stuff, you know. Yeah, a lot of stuff you.
- 6:03Basically doing open the closes, is that what you're doing?
- 6:05Yeah, what the heck? Yeah, man, There's a lot of
- 6:08stuff happened at one of our stores and so their store
- 6:12manager requested me to be there and help out.
- 6:16It was a very serious incident and our store got pulled in
- 6:22because it was stuff that we didn't know.
- 6:24And so yeah, now that that's kind of like slowly passing
- 6:30away, going away. I probably would have a regular
- 6:33schedule in the coming weeks, but right now I'm just like
- 6:36super, super busy. Like and and for like super busy
- 6:41to give you all examples. I am going at 7:30 in the
- 6:44morning and I'm not back to like 12 AM midnight.
- 6:49You can't live like that, man. I know.
- 6:52Not not for long. At least but these, but these
- 6:54Nintendo Switch two games, it's not going to pay for themselves.
- 6:58I suppose those game key cards aren't going to pay for
- 6:59themselves. That and that PS5 Pro that's
- 7:02still waiting for me along with Xbox games.
- 7:05Yeah, that Xbox handheld coming out soon, Yeah.
- 7:09I'm good with my Series XS Switch 2.
- 7:11Yeah, that's fair. We.
- 7:13Just can't take it to bed. Yeah, you can't sleep with your
- 7:17PS5 Pro, Eddie. Or maybe you can, I don't know.
- 7:21Maybe you can. I'm black.
- 7:22I'm. Like I'm like this, I'm black.
- 7:25We go fall asleep to a lot of things and he's.
- 7:29Like I beg to differ. Right, Laurent goes to bed with
- 7:33his PC every night. Who?
- 7:37You go to bed with your PC every night.
- 7:40You mean my ROG? Ally.
- 7:41Yeah, there you go. Yeah, dude, I just picked up the
- 7:44rogue Ally X. Yeah, that's what.
- 7:47I. Have and that thing is.
- 7:49That's how I'm playing. That's how I'm playing
- 7:51Expedition 33 right now. You.
- 7:54Playing with headphones, getting lost in the music.
- 7:57No. No I haven't.
- 7:58I have a blasting pretty loud. OK.
- 8:02Or are you playing, are you like did you hook it up to the TV?
- 8:05Have you? Do you have a dock for it?
- 8:08I have a dock for it but I I've never hooked it up.
- 8:10Oh you never OK? I was always curious if I should
- 8:12get one and if it looks OK on ATV.
- 8:15Like the like the dock, the main person for the dock is for me to
- 8:18be able to like hook up peripherals or or like a thumb
- 8:20drive to like transfer content and stuff like that.
- 8:23OK. And also is it and also use and
- 8:25also use the Ethernet Jack because I what I usually do is
- 8:27I'll just turn it on and remote into it to do like whatever work
- 8:30I need to do on it. Is it Bluetooth for hair foils?
- 8:34The. Rugged it is.
- 8:35Yeah, it is. Steam deck.
- 8:37Also I wonder how many people actually do Bluetooth headphones
- 8:40for like I do I do it I. Do.
- 8:44It I do. Yeah, I do it for my switch.
- 8:47Yeah, I have AI, have APS 5 Portal and I have the Elite
- 8:53headset that comes with the dongle that you have to plug
- 8:55into the PS5. So I use that, but I plug it, I
- 8:59plug the dongle into my PS5 and I just mute the PlayStation
- 9:02Portal and I'm still able to hear the sound like that's the
- 9:07problem. My action, That's the five.
- 9:09That's the PlayStation headphones, right?
- 9:11Yeah, the PlayStation headphones.
- 9:12They said that was that 1 is really really good the
- 9:15headphones for. The Yeah, it's a good pair of
- 9:17headphones. Yeah, that's that's on my list
- 9:20to get. I I got to give it to Sony for
- 9:23their headphones. Like I feel like they have some
- 9:25of the best quality and sound for their headphones.
- 9:28It's so. They got good tech, they got
- 9:30good tech. Yeah.
- 9:32On with the show. Yeah.
- 9:34Cool, cool. Cool.
- 9:36All right, well, we're going to go and break into our first
- 9:38topic. I don't have any particular
- 9:40order that we need to go in, so who wants to go first?
- 9:42Oh God, well I think I will go first because my is not too long
- 9:48and I kind of want to hear what you guys think.
- 9:52My topic is summer video games you jam with.
- 9:56The summer is almost upon us and with the Nintendo Switch to
- 9:59release it's time to get out the snacks, fans, and most of all
- 10:02some of our favorite games of the past that we like to play or
- 10:06find in the summer. From NES to now, summer is
- 10:09usually a slow time for new releases, which allows us to get
- 10:12into our backlog or play some games that we have heard about
- 10:16but not giving but not get given a chance yet.
- 10:19So I kind of want to ask you guys, are there some like games
- 10:24that you do enjoy in the summer? Or maybe it's your backlog and
- 10:29stuff? Like for me, I love playing
- 10:31Super Metroid and Street Fighter two because I remember, oh, in
- 10:34NBA gym, because I remember being at my grandma house over
- 10:38the summer and my cousin had the Super Nintendo there.
- 10:42And so I would play Super Metroid and Street Fighter two
- 10:47over there, learning the games and and like learning where to
- 10:51go and exploring and stuff. And so when I think of like, you
- 10:54know, games I love the gym with in the summer, those two come up
- 10:57now that we have like in a Soul and the Street Fighter
- 11:02collection, I could go back and play those games that I used to
- 11:07play in the summer. So I kind of want to ask you
- 11:10guys, are there any games that you guys like to gym with?
- 11:13Like any games that that you particularly love to play in the
- 11:16summer or anything? Oh yes, and some people are
- 11:19probably going to be like. Oh, this guy is a sadist.
- 11:23Ghouls and ghosts. You are a sadist.
- 11:29I'm going to. I'm going to chill, kick back my
- 11:31feet, relax and play some ghouls and ghosts.
- 11:34Actually in my in my in my personal opinion, I think Ghouls
- 11:37and Ghosts is the is actually the easiest out of the entire
- 11:40like franchise. Which which version?
- 11:44Which? Version.
- 11:44In the arcade version. Arcade or Sega Dreamcast
- 11:47version? I'm not, I'm sorry.
- 11:48Sega's Genesis version. Sega Genesis version.
- 11:50Oh, that's the one, isn't it? The.
- 11:52Genesis. The Genesis version.
- 11:55No Genesis version. It's easier.
- 11:57Really, that was the hardest. One yeah, well, no, we're you're
- 12:00thinking super ghouls and ghosts from the from the Super NES that
- 12:02I think in my in my opinion, that is that was the hardest one
- 12:05until we had watch Mccallick come out the the the one that
- 12:09came out on the on the switch in the PC.
- 12:12What resurrection? Ghosts and goblins?
- 12:14Was it Ghosts and goblins resurrection or?
- 12:16Was it? Yeah, Yeah.
- 12:18Ghosts and goblins resurrection. Cause who?
- 12:19That one's challenging. I tried to, I tried to play that
- 12:22one and I was like what the? Hell.
- 12:26Yeah. And I also include the Maximo
- 12:28games in that because like they were, they were, they were
- 12:31basically like, I'm not going to say tributes to to ghosts and
- 12:34goblins, but there was a lot of ghosts and goblins in that, in
- 12:36that games, in those two games. DNA.
- 12:39Man, I picked up those. I picked up the the PS2 games
- 12:43recently. I should.
- 12:44That's on my stack of like games I want to get to, and that stack
- 12:48is getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
- 12:50You got a backlog for your backlog.
- 12:52Yeah, exactly. So that's what I do.
- 12:54Actually. My summer is usually like, I'll
- 12:57start pulling games from, you know, just like, Oh yeah, I
- 13:00remember buying this like over the winter.
- 13:01I remember buying this a few months ago.
- 13:03Let me get into this again. So I I go back to the retro, I
- 13:06go back to the classics, while also trying to fight the urge to
- 13:09play Matt the Mass Effect series again and again.
- 13:13Well, that's, that's another summertime like, like, like gym,
- 13:16I mean. You know, you play comfort food
- 13:18games, you know, you play these games.
- 13:20That's just like, OK, all right, maybe it's summer.
- 13:22It's time for relaxing, you know, chill vibes.
- 13:25I want to play something that, you know, is like going to make
- 13:28me feel good about that. I don't know.
- 13:30Yeah, yeah. No, I'm.
- 13:32I'm OK. All right, all right, all right.
- 13:35Well another game I always catch myself playing from time to time
- 13:38is the GBA Super Mario 2. Like I I just love that game for
- 13:43some stranger. Well, I always like Super Mario
- 13:45Brothers. 3 Isn't that the one? No, no, no, no.
- 13:47No, no, no. Super Super Mario Brothers 2 the
- 13:50one where you you actually pick up like plants and throw them.
- 13:54That's the original Super Mario Advance.
- 13:56Oh, this? Is that?
- 13:57Mario Dance What's the Mario Brothers 3?
- 14:00I just call it Super. I just call it Super Mario
- 14:02Brothers 2 because that's the game it is.
- 14:03I don't understand why they did that by the way.
- 14:05It's through the order. Completely Oh, it was called
- 14:08Okie Dokie Panic in Japan. Yeah, I know.
- 14:11I yeah, I know. And it wasn't even like a Mario
- 14:13game. No, it wasn't.
- 14:14Yeah. Yeah, that.
- 14:18I mean, if we're, if we're doing, if you're doing these
- 14:19blasts, blasts to the to the past.
- 14:21Let me see, from the NES era alone.
- 14:24Yeah, from the era alone. Ninja Gaiden, Mega Man two and
- 14:29three. What else?
- 14:33Shoot Bonnie Commando. And PS3 and 360 version bio
- 14:38commando. I do like the PS3 three 360
- 14:42version of buying image code. It was, I think.
- 14:44OK, OK, I'm not. It was.
- 14:47Good. It was OK.
- 14:48Let's let's let's make sure it's this, this no.
- 14:51No. No, we're talking the PS3
- 14:53version. We're talking about the actual
- 14:54sequel. Not reloaded, are you?
- 14:58Are you? Oh wait, were you talking about
- 14:59Reloaded? I was I was talking about the 3D
- 15:02the. Oh, real.
- 15:03Wait, Yeah, yeah, the yeah, the one where, Yeah, the one where
- 15:05he had the where maybe he basically.
- 15:07Had the arm and then you know the there was the big they took
- 15:09it Wheeler at the end they. Took it away from him, though.
- 15:11Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one.
- 15:12I'm I, I love that. I like you.
- 15:14Like that one, Everybody didn't like that one.
- 15:16Yeah. This is like you hit because
- 15:19like you hit part of the gas and you lose health and that was
- 15:22such. A genius mechanic, Eddie.
- 15:24Yeah, yeah. No, that game I just wanted.
- 15:28To make sure. That game was good that that.
- 15:32That game's a classic in my opinion.
- 15:34Yeah, I thought the swinging was about as fun as at the best, I
- 15:38think up until that point. And plus you, you got to do so
- 15:41much with that arm, like, I mean, like just grabbing like
- 15:44like people and like slinging them off the freaking world and
- 15:46all this to come on, man, Spider man.
- 15:48Before Spider Man came out, Bionic Commando walked so Spider
- 15:52Man for the PS4 and five could run.
- 15:55Yeah. I will fight anybody on that.
- 15:59Yeah, even way back in the day, like the NES version of buying
- 16:01Commando. I mean, for real.
- 16:03Like game was a classic. What?
- 16:08Was what's yours? You know what, I got too many
- 16:12new games coming out that I it's going to be hard to actually try
- 16:15to hit the backlog this year. Like you got Death Stranding
- 16:19coming out in 2 weeks. That game's going to take time.
- 16:22Oh yeah. I'm, I'm tempering, I'm
- 16:24tempering myself like, I mean, like right now, clear, obscure
- 16:28Exhibition 33 is like, is like my current game, you know?
- 16:32And then, and then I'll finally get back on the Final Fantasy 7
- 16:35Remake train 'cause I do want to 'cause I do need to start a
- 16:38rebirth sometime soon here. I I will say, Pat, that I love
- 16:43that box art for Death Strata, too.
- 16:45That box art is really, really nice.
- 16:47That red and white. I'm like, Oh yeah.
- 16:49All right, Kojima, the Gmail productions, I still need to
- 16:55play the game my ex or Sirius X and beat it.
- 17:00You know, Lauren, the nice thing is you can actually be clear
- 17:02obscure in like 30 hours if you wanted to.
- 17:05Oh, that's good you. Can make it last for like 80 to
- 17:08100 hours if you you know. No, no, no, no, I don't.
- 17:10I don't have the patience for that.
- 17:12Like that. That's, that's my, that's my
- 17:13turn off to like RPGs these days, like, like spending, like
- 17:16spending more than 40 hours on them.
- 17:18That's, that's my turn off. It's like.
- 17:19Geeking to the choir right there.
- 17:24Yeah, like, I don't like the, I don't like the idea of like,
- 17:26like pouring my my life into a game.
- 17:30So Persona and Shimmer, government say, are out the
- 17:33window. Pretty much.
- 17:34Well, I mean, I mean, I I'm trying to beat those games as
- 17:37fast as possible. Like I'm going to be serious
- 17:40with you. The longer I play the game, the
- 17:41more likely I am to get to get tired of it.
- 17:43You know, like if it's especially if you're my first
- 17:45run through, you know, and, and it's, and it's not hooking me
- 17:48like, for example, like a game that can play like hours upon
- 17:51hours upon hours is porn fantasy Tactics.
- 17:54You know, of course, Monster Hunter monster is a different
- 17:59league. Monster Monster Hunter Monster
- 18:00Hunter is basically like, I can't, I can't really call it
- 18:04games of service because like the game ends like eventually,
- 18:07eventually, eventually. Capcom's like we're done with
- 18:09this one. Please play the next Monster
- 18:11Hunter game. So you you talking about more
- 18:14games that have the beginning middle, end like a?
- 18:17Yes. Like, yeah, yeah.
- 18:19OK. Yeah, you know, and not and not
- 18:21games that pad their content. You know, I'm not saying Persona
- 18:24does this, but you know, like games that pad their content
- 18:27just for the sake of padding content.
- 18:28Like I mean my my level of gaming.
- 18:32ADD every Assassin's Creed game. Yes, yeah, yeah.
- 18:36My gaming ADD is like to the point where I was like, I will
- 18:39get bored of your game. So like, if your game is not, if
- 18:41your game is not doing anything to push the story along for me,
- 18:43like I'm probably gonna put it down and never beat it.
- 18:47You know, story I I put down Assassin's Creed Shadow.
- 18:51Oh geez, I didn't even get it. Yeah, I.
- 18:56I That's a game that I got to freak out.
- 18:57Work on it, but it's good. It's good, but it's like Lauren
- 19:02says, it's it's padded. Yeah.
- 19:04Yeah. That's why clear obscure is such
- 19:08a good example of like having meaningful good content while
- 19:14also not padding it with junk. You know, just to make it
- 19:17longer. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:20Right now, right now with my playthrough of Clear Obscura,
- 19:23like I am like there's nothing. There's nothing that's saying
- 19:26this is wasting my time. The only thing that's wasting my
- 19:27time is that I'm getting turned around and lost because I'm one
- 19:31of those. I'm one of those gamers now.
- 19:32I need a mini map. Yeah, you don't have a mini map
- 19:35in this game. Yeah.
- 19:37The biggest complaint about the game is there's no mini maps.
- 19:41Oh, you know what? Oh, I can't wait.
- 19:42I can't wait when we get the stories topic because there's
- 19:44something I do want to mention when we get the stories topic
- 19:46and it kind of goes this whole mini map thing.
- 19:49Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:51That's a good one. Actually a good one.
- 19:53Yeah, the Gears of War series I did as because during the
- 19:57summers I do my backlog blowout. So what it is is that I take
- 20:03four games and each game gets two weeks for me to play and
- 20:07beat it. After the two weeks happen, I
- 20:10move on to the next game and so I did that with the Gears of War
- 20:14trilogy. I, I just spent like 6 weeks
- 20:18playing all three games and stuff 'cause I have to include
- 20:21work and stuff. And so I got through the whole
- 20:25Gear trilogy that way and kind of enjoyed the Gear strategy
- 20:28'cause I didn't like playing it on 360 with the 360 Sixty
- 20:31controller, but it felt good with the Xbox One controller
- 20:34when I played it. Yeah, the Xbox controller's a
- 20:37good controller. The you're, you're excited for a
- 20:44reload it. It's still like kind of
- 20:46dumbfounding to me that we're going to see Gears of War on a
- 20:49PlayStation coming up soon. Yeah, I I think about, I don't
- 20:56know. When you get the raw Galley X,
- 20:59you'll have a lot Last of Us on an Xbox system.
- 21:03Yeah, you're right, everything is an Xbox.
- 21:08Including your PlayStation game. Including your PlayStation.
- 21:11Yeah, yeah, Sony's gonna be like shit.
- 21:15That's more that's true. That's more according for Sony.
- 21:19I mean, everybody benefits. I mean, like, yeah, yeah, like
- 21:22Microsoft is making money like shipping Gears of War on the PS5
- 21:25and you know, they make money when more people are buying Call
- 21:29of Duty on PS5 than they do on Xbox.
- 21:31So yeah, but this is what we wanted though.
- 21:33We wanted, we wanted one a more cohesive ecosystem in gaming.
- 21:37This is what we wanted. Not the Xbox fans, Laurent.
- 21:40Yeah, not the Xbox. Fans.
- 21:42Yeah, honestly, if it was the if it was the other way around,
- 21:45Sony fanboys would be losing their their freaking YEAH 'cause
- 21:47Sony fanboys did lose their mind when all these games started
- 21:50going to PC. Yeah, yeah.
- 21:53Yeah, but you're now going to Xbox.
- 21:55And story, remember, remember story?
- 21:57You were on the episode of crossovers with me when I said
- 21:59Ratchet and Clank Rift apart, We'll be on the PC.
- 22:01Remember, you were on that episode with me.
- 22:03And somebody fought me in my YouTube comments about that.
- 22:07Yeah. But we knew that we knew that
- 22:09was happening because Sony said that was part of their strategy
- 22:12of bringing their First Friday gangs to PC.
- 22:15Yeah, but not Ratchet Clank, not not.
- 22:17Ratchet, that was, Yeah. That was too sacred at the time.
- 22:20Yeah, yeah. Ripped apart.
- 22:23I I had a feeling that it was going, it was going kind of PC
- 22:26because wasn't wasn't one of the PCPS fives get games on PC by
- 22:30that time or was that just no. The the first one was, I'm not
- 22:36saying the first, the very first one was God of War.
- 22:37God of War Yeah, yeah. 2018 version, Yeah.
- 22:40And I was like, what the hell? Yeah.
- 22:43And then Spider Man came out. Spider Man was next, Yeah, like
- 22:46Spider Man got, as a matter of fact, it was Spider Man God of
- 22:49War. And then they, and then they did
- 22:50something really crazy, put Returnal on PC and, and, and
- 22:54this is when I was like, OK, like there's a paradigm shift
- 22:56going on here because they put, they put a game out there that
- 22:59basically sold PS5 systems, you know, and.
- 23:02'Cause they're rising like 'cause they're rising and is if
- 23:06buffer rises on PC. Both are, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:11Horizon was the 4th game. Horizon came, came out after
- 23:14they put return on. And I remember there was a big
- 23:18promotion too, like you get, if you're building APC, you get you
- 23:20get Horizon 0 Dawn for free, like you bought certain AMD
- 23:23processors. Because Forbidden W was the next
- 23:26one. What is the motorcycle one with
- 23:29the zombies? Gone Days Gone was the most was
- 23:32the most recent one. Yeah.
- 23:36Yeah, actually Days Gone was the most recent one because Spider
- 23:37Man 2 came out on PC before. No, no, no, wait, wait, no,
- 23:41Spider Man 2 was the most recent one, I think.
- 23:42Yeah, it's the most recent one. Days Gone was before that.
- 23:45We just got the PS5 upgrade for days gone.
- 23:48Yeah. Yep.
- 23:50Yeah, because because when Death Strategy came out on PS4, it did
- 23:56OK. And I know folks was just like,
- 23:58what is this weird game? And then there was complaints
- 24:01because it came to PC and did numbers and they're just like,
- 24:05what the world? Yeah, I think that was that was
- 24:08going on because, uh, I got. People are, people are simple
- 24:11when it comes to that stuff, you know, it's all, it's like, it's
- 24:15like, OK, so you know, like these would have been the same
- 24:18people that are bitching about the fact that, you know, Spider
- 24:20Man, Miles Morales and Spider Man 2 are now on Xbox.
- 24:23These, these would be the same exact people, you know, Yeah.
- 24:26It's just, it's just wild, you know, no, why is God of War not
- 24:29on Xbox, you know, and all that stuff.
- 24:31Get a damn PC or, or, or save the money and buy a PlayStation.
- 24:35It's just that simple. That's why they was like, why
- 24:38hi-fi rush it all these other games not on PlayStation.
- 24:41It's just like Microsoft, Microsoft.
- 24:45Well hi-fi, well wait, hi-fi. Rush just got announced for
- 24:47PlayStation though. Didn't.
- 24:49It it did, but that time when you're.
- 24:50On PlayStation, Yeah. Yeah, but at the time when it
- 24:53came out, people was wondering why it wasn't coming to
- 24:56PlayStation, and it was. Oh yeah?
- 24:58Well, yeah, it was cuz. Hey, we're bringing hi-fi Rush
- 25:00to PlayStation. Yeah, we're shutting down the
- 25:02studio. Yeah, right.
- 25:04Yeah. Yeah, it did they.
- 25:08And Psych, we got brought, we're back together again.
- 25:11Yeah. Except for the director guy for
- 25:13the Eagle Within, We're not. We're not taking him.
- 25:17No. Hey Eddie, did you mention, did
- 25:18you mention your summer video games at all?
- 25:21Yeah, I said. Metroid Street Fighter 2.
- 25:25NK games, yeah. I have.
- 25:26I have really bad recall. My bad.
- 25:29Yeah. Did everybody, did everybody get
- 25:31their turn? Pat's got a backlog that has a
- 25:35backlog in it. So no, that's.
- 25:37You, I swear we've got. My back, Eddie and yeah.
- 25:42We've got Eddie and Pat on the same show.
- 25:45It was like the Battle of the backlogs.
- 25:49Oh, shoot me and Pat Me and Pat just got a long a long list of
- 25:53games. Oh my God, you guys have like
- 25:55the Library of Congress of Games when it comes to backlogs.
- 25:59Where the means that be like the backlog is drowning, maybe like
- 26:04a new game. You can't brag about the backlog
- 26:08if you don't have a backlog to brag about.
- 26:10Alright, so make it big. He has Eddie has Eddie has like,
- 26:15like like like Pickman that curate his backlog, like
- 26:17basically they make sure everything stays.
- 26:20Pretty much, yeah. It's not alphabetical order.
- 26:22It's, it's, it's, it's by percentage, percentage he played
- 26:26through so far. Color of the box art.
- 26:29He's got them all separated. You know what?
- 26:31I actually I actually. Window games aren't touching the
- 26:34PlayStation and the. Dirty PlayStation.
- 26:37I actually, I actually would love to do a survey to say what
- 26:41system do you think or hardware you think have the biggest
- 26:45backlog? Is it PC because of Steam and
- 26:48the Steam sales? Is it Nintendo, is it Microsoft
- 26:51or is it Xbox like? For me, it's my Nintendo Switch.
- 26:54For me, it's my Nintendo Switch because I've bought a lot of
- 26:56indie games on the Switch that had physical copies and that
- 27:00pile just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
- 27:03Yeah, I was just. Quantitatively speaking, like it
- 27:06probably is my Switch because I have so many games on the Switch
- 27:08that I bought that I just have never touched.
- 27:10Yeah. Like I like I like when I
- 27:12transferred my data from my switch to my switch to like it's
- 27:15show it like I've only played 13.4% of astral chain.
- 27:21Yeah, actually, same. That's man, that's been on my
- 27:23backlog for years. Oh my God, yeah.
- 27:25It's a good game, guys. It is a good game.
- 27:27It is a good game. Like it.
- 27:29I just Astro chain got hurt when when links when when links
- 27:34awakening came out like I was like oh.
- 27:36What is this? What happened?
- 27:38What is this? That's that that goodness that
- 27:422019 was bunkers of people just getting top tier first fighter
- 27:47games from Nintendo. And it's just like, well, if you
- 27:49don't beat it this week, you might not beat it into the
- 27:51future. Exactly.
- 27:53I'm going another hot gay. Exactly And and and yeah like
- 27:58and and fireman 3 houses is like please pay me please please.
- 28:03Play me, I'm only 100 hours long.
- 28:06You can marry, you can fall in love with your students.
- 28:09That's not weird. Like it's a story when you when
- 28:12you mention when you mention Mass Effect.
- 28:15The first time I played those games, I paid their straight
- 28:19back-to-back to back. And because I I had the thing
- 28:22not against BioWare, but I just didn't get their gangs.
- 28:26And so I played Mass Effect one. I'm just like, OK, I I think I
- 28:29get it. I got the two.
- 28:30It was going back to work because my friend was like he
- 28:34was playing it too. I was just like, what is this
- 28:36drama? What is this story?
- 28:37I was wrapped into it. So when I got I was playing that
- 28:41game four to five hours per day. I was stuck with Mass Effect 2.
- 28:4622 did that for a lot of people. Yeah, Mass 2 had a good one.
- 28:50One was. Good.
- 28:51It was a good setup. It was a good, like introduction
- 28:53into the universe. And then two just hit the ground
- 28:56running and just like, great story, great all new characters
- 28:59'cause you're like, who are these new people?
- 29:01And then you just, man, fall in love with him right away.
- 29:03And just companion missions. I love stories with companion
- 29:08missions. Tell me more about this
- 29:10character. I want to know what makes them
- 29:12tick, what's bad about them, what skeletons in there are in
- 29:15their closet. You know, like, tell me all
- 29:17that. Like, I don't know how by word
- 29:20did it, but the characters were strong.
- 29:22Like you guys say the story was good.
- 29:25I. Was like everything.
- 29:27Except for Jacob. No one likes Jacob.
- 29:29Poor Jacob. No, you know what, You know
- 29:32what? Screw that guy.
- 29:33Because in three if you, if he was a romance option in two for
- 29:36you, in three, he just totally dusts you to the side.
- 29:39He's like, well, you were in jail and I'm a horny guy, so you
- 29:44know. Well, I mean, I did kind of, I
- 29:47did kind of curve Miranda in Mass Effect 3.
- 29:54That's. A tough one.
- 29:54That's a tough one, yeah. I did.
- 29:56Curve. I did curve her.
- 29:57Yeah, Miranda's the tough one. That's tough.
- 30:01That's 'cause I finally got the option to swing both ways, so I
- 30:03was like, here we go. Romance is going to do it this
- 30:05game. I was a tally all the way.
- 30:11Faithful worked for that, worked for that romance.
- 30:16Teddy is so good. Yep.
- 30:19Alright fellas. Digging now, I will need to play
- 30:21the Mass Effect trilogy again so I can just get 2 and 3.
- 30:25You and me, both kids. The summer of games like figure
- 30:28it out Yep alright, well, we're going to go ahead and wrap this
- 30:31one up. We're going to go ahead and move
- 30:32into our next topic, which which story I'm going to go ahead and
- 30:36I'm just going to go ahead and we're going to work right into
- 30:38your topic man. You want to go ahead and take
- 30:39this one away. Yeah, sure.
- 30:41I was thinking about this the other day because I I have a
- 30:44storied history of just playing video games since I was a kid.
- 30:46I'm in my mid 40s now. So I'm like, you know, I was, I
- 30:49was there when Nintendo first came out and just blew the pants
- 30:53off everybody because the jump from Atari to Nintendo was like
- 30:56legendary. Like, I didn't have an Atari
- 30:59growing up. I had friends that did, you
- 31:01know, and I'm like, these graphics are kind of bunk.
- 31:03They're kind of kind of garbage, whatever.
- 31:06But that was like when the, you know, when the crash hit and
- 31:09then Nintendo came in and just blew the pants off everybody.
- 31:12And, you know, now you can like, you know, you got games with
- 31:14actual storylines. You got, you know, graphics that
- 31:18you can see detail with. You know, you can actually like
- 31:20kind of forge a connection to a character because there's that
- 31:23visual connection. So and then like you started to
- 31:26see like changes in the environment, you know, all the
- 31:29next generations over. So my question was, you know,
- 31:33you guys have been playing games for a long time too.
- 31:35You guys are with me there too. What game mechanic or what game
- 31:38feature that came out that just blew the pants off you that you
- 31:44were? Just like, I can't live in
- 31:47another video game without this feature.
- 31:50Oh, this is like, oh, this is super easy.
- 31:53Yeah, no. And it's a, it's a good one
- 31:55because like obviously there's we could come up with 100
- 31:57different ones. Laron, you hinted to 1:00
- 32:00earlier. But like for me, the rewind
- 32:02feature in racing games, like I hate, I hated it at first.
- 32:07I hated it because I thought it was cheating.
- 32:09It's like you're either going to nail that turn or you're not,
- 32:11you know, or maybe you got to like restart the track over
- 32:14again. But when you think about it, and
- 32:16I thought about it a long time, that's training like, OK, you,
- 32:21you didn't nail that turn. OK, go back, try it again, go
- 32:25back, try it again and perfect it over and over and over again
- 32:28instead of, well, I'll just get it on the next lap and you know,
- 32:32you screwed up again. So like now if a racing game
- 32:36doesn't have that, I don't want to have anything to do with it.
- 32:41It's like, it's like train. And I think most most racing
- 32:43games nowadays, even most racing games have it now.
- 32:47Yeah, Forza, Forza Horizon 4. Yeah, when that saved me a lot.
- 32:52Yeah, I think. I don't think Gran Turis, I
- 32:56don't think Gran Turismo got it, still do, do they not?
- 33:01I thought they had something like that.
- 33:02Does Gran Turismo does a new one have it?
- 33:04I I don't remember, I know like obviously all the Forza's have
- 33:07it, you know, basically like I think Dirt Rally, like those
- 33:12racing games, they all have it, F1 has it and stuff, but.
- 33:15Mario Kart has it now. Mario Kart has it.
- 33:17That's weird. That's weird.
- 33:20I don't know. You can also use that to like
- 33:23dodge a blue shell. Oh, really?
- 33:25Yeah. Now that's.
- 33:27There's a second option. There's a second option.
- 33:30That is cheating. Yeah, but what are that's the
- 33:35big one for me. I don't know what you guys have.
- 33:39OK, so this is something that this is something that that that
- 33:43I have to thank the original Dead Space game for a freaking
- 33:47waypoint Finder like pressing, pressing the R3 button, like
- 33:51basically pressing in the right, the right stick, analog stick
- 33:55and actually seeing your path and actually seeing like a spot
- 33:58on the map that it's actually supposed to take you to like
- 34:01amazing, amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 34:04And I really feel like every. Game should have that.
- 34:07Yeah, I I really wish Exhibition 33 had something like that
- 34:10because I've gotten turned around a couple of times in that
- 34:12game and I'm like, what's happening?
- 34:14Why can't? I get to the next zone.
- 34:17You A Game has brought that to their remaster.
- 34:21What's that? Xenoblade Chronicles X has one
- 34:23of those now? Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, you
- 34:27cannot. It sends this little ball out,
- 34:30creates a little path, and it's a godsend when you know you
- 34:34don't realize that your goal is like on a level way higher.
- 34:37Than where you know, can I say I, I, I play, I remember playing
- 34:42that game for the Wii U and I must have had like crazy amnesia
- 34:46after I played it because that bangin rap song that pops in
- 34:52when you go to the city. Like someone recorded that and
- 35:03like, listened back to it and be like, yeah, this is good track.
- 35:05Yeah, this is fire. This is fire.
- 35:07Send it. Yeah.
- 35:10This is how Yasandori Matsuda don't care.
- 35:13Put it in. Put it in the kids.
- 35:15Will love it. The American kids will love it.
- 35:19For me, New Game Plus, ever since I got introduced in Chrono
- 35:25Trigger, I don't care what anyone said, It's almost in
- 35:28every genre and a lot of games from today.
- 35:31There's there's so many games now that has used it.
- 35:34But back in the day when you was done with the RPG, you was done.
- 35:39But with Square Enix of the Dream Team did it in Chrono
- 35:42Trigger and just like, yeah, we could continue on.
- 35:44We start the game with with your previous stuff and go to the
- 35:49whole game if you want to fly. And that was the way to help you
- 35:52see the other endings in the game.
- 35:54So New Game Plus is definitely like that blew my mind because
- 35:58I've never played the RPG that offer that.
- 36:01And a lot of people at that time who weren't playing RPGs didn't
- 36:05know that was the feature that was going to be the evolution
- 36:08like of gaming, just in all genres.
- 36:11Yeah, especially when you can actually carry over your level
- 36:14and carry over your weapons and you can actually go after those
- 36:17optional bosses that you maybe skipped, because by the time I
- 36:20get there, I'll be a lot more powerful, so.
- 36:24Yeah, yeah. Now mine, mine's kind of in the
- 36:29same direction as stories. I like the rewind feature, but I
- 36:32like it on like the remasters of retro games and stuff.
- 36:37So when I'm playing like Slide 2 or just recently the Gex trilogy
- 36:42came out, has the rewind feature to it.
- 36:45You know, it it, it helps me because I don't want to go back
- 36:48and keep playing the same damn part over and over again.
- 36:51I don't have the time for that. Yeah, when you think about it,
- 36:54checkpoints now. Checkpoints.
- 36:57My God, can you play a game without a checkpoint system
- 37:00anymore? What were we doing for our lives
- 37:03back then? Oh my God.
- 37:04Like. We were writing down codes 10
- 37:06digit codes to. Put them in.
- 37:09Or better yet, walking back like 20 minutes just to get to the
- 37:12last save point. Yeah, yeah.
- 37:15Or you just put the game down and you said, well, I guess I'm
- 37:17done playing because I don't want to do any of that shit
- 37:20right now. And then expedition 33 is like,
- 37:22oh, you walk back to a save point, you just reset every
- 37:25every everything you you killed so you gotta fight them all.
- 37:28Over again. I mean you can thank Dark Souls
- 37:30for that crap like oh hey go save at this spot and now it
- 37:34just respawns all the enemies. And that's why.
- 37:38Me personally, I hate that mechanic.
- 37:40Yeah for us NES players who with do it Mega Man and niche guide
- 37:45in which is like those. Walking, We're walking, we're
- 37:51walking backwards meant everything respawned.
- 37:54Yeah, you had to deal with that Dang ego.
- 37:57Oh. God, that's still the worst
- 37:59enemy in video game history. I don't realize something, you
- 38:01know, you know NES game that did not do that.
- 38:04Metal Gear, if you killed something, the only way it would
- 38:08respawn is if you moved off the floor and came back out.
- 38:12Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah.
- 38:14Yeah, like if you, if you went inside a door or if you, or if
- 38:18you went down an elevator and came back to the floor, that's
- 38:20the only time they respawn. If you if you just walk back,
- 38:24like all the way back to the beginning of that area, they
- 38:26will not be there when you when you walk back again.
- 38:29Metal Gear. Kajima wasn't here.
- 38:32This he was ahead of his time way back then.
- 38:36Yeah, well, even like when you think about all the crazy things
- 38:40that you could do, like even just the Psychomantis scene in
- 38:44Metal Gear. Oh yeah, it kind of blew you
- 38:46away where it's like, I can read your memory card.
- 38:49You don't save very often. It's like, what?
- 38:52Get your. Controllers down.
- 38:56Did. You did you enjoy passing
- 38:58Pennsylvania Symphony of the Night?
- 39:00The what? Excuse me?
- 39:05And then all you had to do to beat him was take out the
- 39:07controller and. I'm just like.
- 39:11Yeah, yeah, I think I, I think I, I didn't know that when I
- 39:16first played it. But like, you know, back then
- 39:18you couldn't just look it up online.
- 39:20So I think I in one of the video game magazines I read at the
- 39:23time, they were like, yeah, put it in, yeah, you know,
- 39:26controller 4 too. I was like no the.
- 39:27First time I played. The first time I played Psycho
- 39:29man is I got clapped. Yeah, yeah, I think we all did.
- 39:33We all did. I got clapped and accidentally
- 39:35killed Meryl that. Was a rough time, yeah.
- 39:42What was that? If you if you went into first
- 39:45person mode, If you went into first person mode, you saw
- 39:49yourself. Yeah, right.
- 39:51You, you would hit, you would hit the first personal.
- 39:52And you could actually see from Meryl's eyes in that scene.
- 39:55Yeah. That was wild, that.
- 39:58Was wild, I think a a future that we haven't seen that have
- 40:02made a combat like but you had to have the money for this was
- 40:05the S&K gangs for the Neo Geo. When you was able to take your
- 40:10game to an arcade and play it and then bring all your same
- 40:14information and put into your Neo Geo and consider you a play
- 40:17for them you. Never remember that.
- 40:19Yeah. Yeah, they one.
- 40:21Someone other game series did NFL Blitz.
- 40:24NFL Blitz did that for the N64. I think if you brought your
- 40:27Nintendo 64 cart, your memory card, and then I think you put
- 40:32it into the arcade, then you can carry all your stats over.
- 40:37Yeah, Yeah, I think that. Wow.
- 40:39Yeah, man, even Mortal Kombat, I think Mortal Kombat 3 you used
- 40:43to put in codes in to get like secret levels and fight enemies.
- 40:47Like the RKC started doing the trick.
- 40:51Stuff like you was playing a console like better on in the
- 40:5490s and stuff. So now I thought that was kind.
- 40:57Of codes. Interesting codes, man, just
- 41:00like instead of just like oh, you know, you know, you want all
- 41:03these weapons skins, you'll put this DOC in, you know, pay $10,
- 41:07you know, now back then it would just be like a BACABB blood code
- 41:10for psychogenesis. You're ready to go.
- 41:15Remember the Nemesis system? Remember the nemesis system
- 41:20outbreaking that was, you know, Shadow of Shadow of Mordor and.
- 41:25That's. Oh, no, they didn't close their.
- 41:27They closed their doors, right? Yeah.
- 41:29On a lift, yeah. So what?
- 41:32Dad with the Wonder Woman game. So what happens now with their
- 41:37patent? Warner Brothers has it.
- 41:40Yep. Yep, and nothing can be done
- 41:42about it. Yep, OK, I've I've wondered
- 41:45about that. I'm just like, OK, can't, can
- 41:48now games use it if they wanted to because I don't think like no
- 41:54other company was interested in using that.
- 41:56It was. Like, because I couldn't.
- 42:00That was talk about one of the biggest boneheaded maneuvers in
- 42:03video game history. Yeah, I, I, I still think it,
- 42:08you know, besides checkpoints, just a save feature in general.
- 42:11Because I remember if I wanted to sit down to play Super Mario
- 42:17Brothers 3 and the Nintendo, I had to invest in the time.
- 42:21I couldn't just be like, I'm just going to play it maybe like
- 42:2320 minutes and then I'll save and go back to it later.
- 42:26You know? You had to, you had to be
- 42:27invested in the time. Depending if you knew where,
- 42:30where, where the. Oh yeah, you know, you could
- 42:34beat it in a, you know, decent amount of time, but.
- 42:38You can also record the code that they give you after every
- 42:40level, but you know, I didn't want to write all that down.
- 42:43Yeah, no kidding. You just have papers of codes
- 42:45everywhere and you're like, what's this one?
- 42:47And then you put it in. This one sucks.
- 42:49My Life of Mega Man 2 and 3. Yeah, the dots.
- 42:52Yeah, yeah. A modern gaming feature that I
- 42:56think we take for granted is being able to suspend our games.
- 42:59You know, like, is it particularly on console?
- 43:01Particularly on console, you know, like, like, I can't tell
- 43:04you, I can't tell you the amount of times that, you know, like
- 43:06being able to suspend my game and, you know, turn my system
- 43:08off, You know, for the PS4, like I, I think I took it for
- 43:12granted, you know, like I, I do appreciate it, but I know for
- 43:15sure I, I, once I figured it out, like I of course I wore
- 43:18that option out, but you know, also at the same time, it was
- 43:21like, man, like this is life right now.
- 43:24Yeah, I don't think I, I don't think I utilized that feature
- 43:26enough, but I don't I definitely feel the it's such a benefit.
- 43:31Geez, like there, there was sometimes when I was like when I
- 43:34was playing God of War, I was like, man, I, I, I can't.
- 43:37So I was just like, I'm not, I'm not walking.
- 43:39Well, actually, no, you could save at any point.
- 43:42But you know, it was just like, why would I save at any point?
- 43:44I can just pause the game, suspend the console, and just
- 43:47pick it back up tomorrow when I'm ready.
- 43:49That was my best friend for Xbox One, to steal Series X, that
- 43:53even when I hop between games, just it's said at a point when I
- 43:58get back to that game, it'll load me back.
- 44:00Yeah, that that was a life changer, A lifesaver for me.
- 44:05It's like, thank you, I. Struggle to trust those that
- 44:08struggle to trust those because if the PlayStation gets an
- 44:10update it shuts the game down. Oh yeah.
- 44:14That was the that was the only that was the only that was the
- 44:17only thing that that detracted against that.
- 44:19But but most, but for the most part, like it was, it was, it
- 44:22was a good enough feature that, you know, like I appreciated it.
- 44:27No, yeah, for sure. I what was this one randomly
- 44:31popped in my head. We talked about San Andreas
- 44:32earlier, but I I something I wish more games did.
- 44:36It blew me away at the time that you could just, you could get
- 44:39jacked in the game and you could get fat like if you decided to
- 44:44eat all the time, like your, your, your body habitus can
- 44:47change. So like if you wanted, if you
- 44:49were going to the gym like every day, every time you played, you
- 44:52know, like then you'd get muscular like, and then like,
- 44:55yeah, if you're eating that burger time like every day.
- 44:58That was, that was a cool feature.
- 44:59That was like pretty cool. And I I I just wish board games
- 45:03did but. Yeah, it affected which girl you
- 45:06could get because one of them liked the chubby CJ, other one
- 45:09did not. Yeah, yeah.
- 45:16I know one, one last one for me. They don't do it anymore, but
- 45:21eternal darkness and this might lead into your, your thing.
- 45:25Pat with eternal Darkness when they had to send it to the
- 45:28effects and one of the sandy effects was like erasing your
- 45:32memory card and then it comes back.
- 45:35That was so cool because I, I got it and I'm just, I, I heard,
- 45:40I read about it in EGM and I didn't know that it would ever
- 45:43happen to me, but it did happen to me.
- 45:45And it depends like all your health or something.
- 45:48And I'm just like, oh, they the sanity effects in eternal
- 45:52darkness. They were good at it.
- 45:55So good. At it, yeah.
- 45:56The only game that did anywhere close to that was Batman Arkham
- 46:00Asylum. Oh yeah.
- 46:02When this when the Scarecrow missions and then it rewound the
- 46:06game back to the intro and then you see like Joker's drive of
- 46:09the Batmobile and Batman's in the passenger seat.
- 46:12Oh my God. Those crackle levels were so fun
- 46:15to play. Yeah.
- 46:16Yeah, they were. What'd you go say, Alora?
- 46:22I was, I'm sorry I got distracted for a second.
- 46:24I was looking for something on my desk.
- 46:26Funny story about eternal darkness backgrounds are in
- 46:30GameStop. We, we had someone that
- 46:31basically wanted to trade their game in because like they're
- 46:34like the whole sandy meter thing, right?
- 46:36Like, like, like when your character started wigging out,
- 46:39like, like there's one time when like a giant cockroach starts
- 46:42walking on the screen and he actually whacked his, he
- 46:46actually whacked his screen with the, with the freak with a shoe
- 46:50and cracked his and cracked his damn television.
- 46:53And he was like, and he was like, wait, he was like, that
- 46:56was fake. And he was like, I'm done with
- 46:57this game. He told us the story.
- 47:00We're like, oh, wow, that's that's the first.
- 47:04I was like, man, what? What size TV was he planning on
- 47:07that? He thought that was actually a
- 47:08Roach. I mean, you know, if you have an
- 47:12affinity to roaches. Well, yeah, you're right, You're
- 47:16right, all right. Well, since since Ed kind of
- 47:21teed it out like like let's go ahead and move on to our next
- 47:23topic, which which which Pat's got got this one long lock.
- 47:29Yep, guys, there's one thing I noticed about the Summer Games
- 47:32Fest trailers is that there were a lot of horror games shown this
- 47:38year and I'm just. Are we gonna talk about I'll in
- 47:42this? Yes, we can talk about I'll, we,
- 47:45we can talk about I'll. We can talk about Cristo.
- 47:48We can talk about the blooms. What's the blooming 1, The
- 47:54fractured blooms Graves was grave grave seasons.
- 48:02I mean we horror games is like really has taken off.
- 48:06And I think a lot of it's definitely thanks to indie games
- 48:10and just being able to like recreate like these ideas again,
- 48:15because they're not all trying to be like super powerhouse and
- 48:18gory, even though I'll is and that's pretty pretty awesome.
- 48:23But it's like guys, horror's back.
- 48:25What do we think? Are we excited about this?
- 48:29I'm 100% in. I, I downloaded on Steam dead of
- 48:34I think it's like Dead of darkness or something or
- 48:37whatever, but it's like it's a retro styled Resident Evil game,
- 48:41you know, but just like top down, like, you know, you're
- 48:45holding L1 to shoot, you know, to aim and shoot and stuff like
- 48:47that. But I'm all in for all these
- 48:49indie games, even just like AA developers coming in and just,
- 48:53you know, just giving us something.
- 48:55Because with with horror games, it's not necessarily, you know,
- 48:59you have to have AAA style graphics, extremely realistic
- 49:02graphics. Like you could, you could do
- 49:05like low, low polygraphics to make it scary and terrifying.
- 49:09Because when I mean, when you think about it, like you look at
- 49:12Silent Hill one right now, I mean it, it looks awful.
- 49:16But you know, back then it was terrifying.
- 49:19And even for me going back to play, it's still terrifying.
- 49:24But boys, we're getting a remake of that, by the way.
- 49:28Yeah, Bob Bloomberg. You like Bloomberg?
- 49:30You did good here. Here's the.
- 49:31First one, I will say that Silent Hill one needs a remake
- 49:36because I don't like the first. I don't like the first Silent
- 49:40Hill. I'm like.
- 49:41Most people don't like the first Silent Hill.
- 49:43Yeah, you had to have been there.
- 49:44It's one of those things, and even that's important excuse.
- 49:48But yeah, then Silent Hill 2 came out and everyone's like,
- 49:52yeah, forget Silent Hill one. I would forever hate that piano
- 49:55puzzle in the high school for Sunny Hill One.
- 49:58Hate it. Yeah, the clunk.
- 50:00I hate it. The baby in the bathroom always
- 50:06gets me. The only that's like any horror
- 50:10game though. If you put in like a bloody
- 50:12fetus in some bathroom, it's like, OK, well, this is about
- 50:16weird. And exactly the reason why I
- 50:18stopped playing BT Exactly the reason.
- 50:21Yeah. But I will say I'm looking
- 50:23forward to solid hill elf that looks really, really good.
- 50:26I like this, of course, that Japanese aesthetic, but it looks
- 50:29like it's going to be somewhat of a not.
- 50:33I'm going to say a venture still looks like it's going to mental,
- 50:36some survival horror elements to it, but it's going to be really,
- 50:40really creepy. And it's going to be glory.
- 50:42I heard too. But I think going back to PT,
- 50:45I'm just, I'm just glad now we're past the post PT phase of
- 50:50horror games because it seems like every game that was coming
- 50:53out was trying to follow the same formula.
- 50:55PT, you know, you had some good games, like Visage was pretty
- 50:59good. But like all this other like
- 51:03slop of just like everyone trying to capture that PT vibe.
- 51:06It's like, OK, all right, you're you're trying too hard.
- 51:09And it's like, oh, psychological horror, you're you're really the
- 51:12bad guy throughout this whole game.
- 51:14It's like, oh wow. Surprising, you know?
- 51:16Yeah. Well, what I like about the
- 51:18horror genre is it's kind of like the new RPG genre.
- 51:21You can put horror into just about any kind of game play now.
- 51:26You got third person, you got first person, you got the
- 51:29narrative horror, You got what you just mentioned the the
- 51:33looping horror. There's multiplayer horror games
- 51:36out there that are still like, you know, doing amazing like
- 51:40Dead by Daylight and like, yeah, Fantasma.
- 51:45Fantasma The not Phantasmaphobia, that's the old
- 51:49one. Yeah.
- 51:51Phantasmaphobia. Is that it?
- 51:53I think so. I forget what it is, but it's
- 51:55that multiplayer one where you're like ghost investigators.
- 51:58Yep. And now even we're getting cozy
- 52:01horror games where you get games that are designed for the cozy
- 52:06thing. Like take Grave Seasons for
- 52:09example. It's a farming game.
- 52:11Yeah, that's weird. Night, night time, there's a
- 52:14supernatural serial killer on the loose and you have to figure
- 52:17out who in the town it is. And what's cool is that every
- 52:20time you replay the game, it's someone different.
- 52:24So you know, it's And then you also have the fractured
- 52:28Balloons, which was they described it as Doki Doki
- 52:33literature club meets Silent Hill.
- 52:36But it's in a farming, you know, you're farming.
- 52:40It's like, oh, all these weird, just like farming horror or even
- 52:46Dredge where it's a fishing game, but it's a Lovecraftian
- 52:51fishing game. Like there's something in the
- 52:53sea that's causing some weird shit to.
- 52:56Go. That was the one with the retro
- 52:58style graphics right? Where it's like 2.5 D or
- 53:01something like that. Yeah, you're, you're basically a
- 53:03boat, you know, going around and you're fishing.
- 53:05And while you're collecting your harvest, you're also
- 53:08investigating, you know, the weird paranormal stuff that's
- 53:11happening. Hell yeah.
- 53:13There's no ghost at the Grand that one from where you, you're,
- 53:21you're maintaining the hotel during the day, like doing
- 53:25cleaning and then at night you're busting and expecting
- 53:28ghosts and you have to use whatever you use during the day.
- 53:31And so not just like it's a cool trailer to watch at the Xbox
- 53:35showcase, but I was just like, I may have to buy this game 'cause
- 53:40it looks funny and it's wacky as ever.
- 53:43I'm like a SIM game where I'm cleaning or doing other stuff
- 53:48and using that thing to bust ghosts.
- 53:51Oh yeah, I'm. Yeah, it's wacky enough.
- 53:56That was the. Game man sorry, that was the
- 54:00game I was thinking of earlier. Unfortunately I didn't.
- 54:03I didn't check out enough of some of the most of the Summer
- 54:06Game Fest stuff that I don't that I don't really like.
- 54:09All this stuff is new to me. No, I was, I was just thinking
- 54:13of one demo that I downloaded. It was like about as it's like,
- 54:19I mean Resident Evil and Dino Crisis style graphics and
- 54:22gameplay, you know, with the stationary cinematic cameras and
- 54:26stuff like that. I'm trying to think of the name
- 54:27of it, but going through my Steam library and my Steam
- 54:31library is too big. Has anyone played Grow Country
- 54:36yet? Which ones?
- 54:38Which were? I played it for a little.
- 54:41Bit and that's one I want to get back into OK it was good.
- 54:45You know it definitely had that old Silent Hill like aesthetic,
- 54:50but it it I need to get back to it.
- 54:54I didn't give it enough good enough try and.
- 54:58I I do like like we play like Sabri work clothes, that kind of
- 55:06horror game at PAX East that's. The first person shooter.
- 55:12Yeah, and I like that was kind of cool that like you, you know,
- 55:17you said that, you know, or her, you know, indie games is like
- 55:21inspired horror games to come back.
- 55:23And this just have been so different, so many takes on it.
- 55:26It's just that, you know, horror now is way past the survival
- 55:32horror thing. There's more takes on it that
- 55:36people don't have. You can play horror games and
- 55:39not get scared. Or, you know, you could watch
- 55:43people play these games and even though you might be scared, it's
- 55:46engaging watching them play 'cause you, it's like to them,
- 55:50it's like actually watching a horror movie to them, but you.
- 55:54But you're watching someone being a hero of that game or
- 56:00Survivor. Of that game.
- 56:02I know plenty of people who say they can't play survival horror
- 56:05games, but they are totally fine watching someone else play it,
- 56:08you know, and that's, and they're almost jealous in a way,
- 56:12because they would love to. The horror games have got some
- 56:15really good stories to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 56:19I think what, what, what really gets people engaged in horror
- 56:22games is the puzzle solving aspect.
- 56:26You know, if you are a trip streamer and stuff and you're
- 56:30playing this horror game, your community is going to be like,
- 56:32OK, go into this room. The key was right there.
- 56:35You could get this if you could run past that zombie and and
- 56:38that engagement kind of makes playing horror games satisfying.
- 56:44Yeah, it's a good couch, not couch Co-op, but it's like a
- 56:47good like armchair style game where it's like, you know, you
- 56:49could be sitting on the sideline.
- 56:51I mean, that's what I mean we did growing up, like, you know,
- 56:54before online multiplayer, like you would get to get, you go to
- 56:58Blockbuster, you'd rent this game, you're like, this looks
- 57:00really good. And then you're just shoulder to
- 57:03shoulder with your with your buddy, like playing games,
- 57:05passing the control back and forth.
- 57:06I don't know what to do here. You do it, you know, and it's
- 57:09like, yeah, that was always fun. Post trauma.
- 57:13Have you guys played that one? No.
- 57:15Not yet, no. No, that was that's, I mean, if
- 57:18you're into puzzle solving, like you got a puzzle to solve right
- 57:21in the first like 5 minutes of the game and it's a doozy.
- 57:24It's like you got to find a combination, but you have to
- 57:26look at the walls of the subway that you're in to decipher the
- 57:30combo to this padlock. Jeez.
- 57:35No, you told me about that one. That's one I do plan on checking
- 57:38out here. Yeah.
- 57:39It's, I mean, you know, if you're familiar with that style
- 57:43of like I said, if you want something that's got like
- 57:46better, I guess better quality, you know, you may be
- 57:50disappointed in that, but it's very PS2 era gameplay, I guess.
- 57:58It's. Nothing neat.
- 58:00No, honestly, like I, I, you know, going back to what you
- 58:03said, Pat, it's like I, I'm really excited because we're
- 58:05starting to get a wide variety of different types of horror
- 58:09games and, and I'm all here for it.
- 58:10Like I'm, I'm done with the transcending.
- 58:13I'm done with the whole like, hey, let's make everything a
- 58:15psychological horror game now. It's like, you know, I mean,
- 58:19Silent Hill to give them credit for revolutionizing the horror
- 58:23genre forever. But you know, it's time for
- 58:27developers and artists to kind of stand on their own footing
- 58:30and being like, hey, let's make something really cool.
- 58:33I I oh, go ahead man, go ahead, go ahead.
- 58:38I kind of miss like the game Deception from Tecmo where you
- 58:46had to build traps and trap. Hopefully someone would come in
- 58:51and fall into your trap and you kill them and you progress.
- 58:54Like those kind of horror games. I kind of miss and I wish they
- 58:57would come back. Trapped.
- 58:58Is that what you're thinking of? I know.
- 59:00That trapped was one of them, too.
- 59:02I think was another. One too.
- 59:04I think Draft was a sequel to Deception.
- 59:06Yeah, because it was. That was made by Koe Tecmo.
- 59:08Yeah, OK. I just picked that up at the
- 59:12Midwest gaming class this year. I'm so mad that she, I'm so mad
- 59:17that I missed it. I keep missing the I keep
- 59:20missing the Midwest Gaming Classic and I want to go
- 59:24somewhere that. Yeah, keeps this.
- 59:28This was a this was a good year to do it because it didn't fall
- 59:31on like the same weeks as PAX or the week after PAX.
- 59:34That is true which? Because.
- 59:36It's and you want to see my my my most favorite buy.
- 59:41Yes, yes. Yeah, let's see it.
- 59:43We I know what it is, but you know.
- 59:45What it is but mm hmm let me see if I can get it.
- 59:57Oh, I love that. Leon.
- 1:00:00Kennedy body pillow, son. Oh wow, yes.
- 1:00:06Sir, I. Think did Loron just totally
- 1:00:08miss that? No, no, because I had, I had my
- 1:00:11stream. I had the stream open.
- 1:00:12So I saw that I was like, Sir, I beg your pardon?
- 1:00:16There was the reason Loron had the camera off.
- 1:00:19Yeah, right. Yeah, hey, just because.
- 1:00:23Just because my camera is off doesn't mean I don't see.
- 1:00:26Oh, sure, yeah, whatever you're you're still leaving anyway,
- 1:00:29going back to. Step Steph had me get the
- 1:00:32hysterian body pillow for her. Oh yeah.
- 1:00:37She, she packed it full of pillows while we were at PAX
- 1:00:40East. Nice.
- 1:00:45Mm Hmm. OK.
- 1:00:47So yeah, kind of like what story mentioned that we have these
- 1:00:51developers and indie creators now they're just pushing.
- 1:00:54I just want to give a shout out to a couple different indie
- 1:00:56developers that if you are interested in the horror genre,
- 1:01:00give these developers like check them out, check out some of
- 1:01:04their game libraries 'cause they do have some very good ones out
- 1:01:06there. Bloom House Games is a
- 1:01:09relatively new one and right now a lot of their games have been
- 1:01:12really good. They have Fear of the Spotlight.
- 1:01:16They recently showed. I think they're doing the Grave
- 1:01:19Seasons as well. They recently showed Christo,
- 1:01:22what's it called? Christo Theatre of Idols, Sleep
- 1:01:25Awake. What a name.
- 1:01:28Sleep awake. Yeah, can't fall asleep
- 1:01:32otherwise shit will happen, but that creates your own
- 1:01:35psychological horrors. Other games.
- 1:01:38Can't. We Got Dread.
- 1:01:41XP is another indie developer that makes nothing but horror
- 1:01:44games. Wired Productions has some very
- 1:01:47interesting horror games out there, one that I'm going to
- 1:01:50talk about later today. Of course we have Bloomberg.
- 1:01:55They started out as Indy, but now they definitely reached the
- 1:01:57point where they're, they're pretty damn big.
- 1:02:00But they're they've, they're one of the ones credited for
- 1:02:03revolutionizing the horror genre, especially the looping
- 1:02:08slash hallway horrors. Fear the spotlight is out.
- 1:02:10How did I totally miss this? I, I kept this on my radar and I
- 1:02:14totally. Man, good game.
- 1:02:16Check it out OK, you'll like it. Yep, and also our friends over
- 1:02:21at Toge have a game coming out called Whisper Mount an
- 1:02:25Outbreak, which is like a Co-op isometric Resident Evil game, so
- 1:02:28check that one out too. Wait, didn't didn't Toge have
- 1:02:32something coming up that I told you to like?
- 1:02:34Keep me in the loop on. Yep, that was Krieg's front
- 1:02:38tactics. Yes, yes.
- 1:02:41Still supposed to be coming out later this year.
- 1:02:45Yeah, cuz I, yeah, cuz like if you like front mission, like
- 1:02:48Krieg's front tactics is your is going to be up your alley.
- 1:02:52And Speaking of front mission, you got from Mission 3 coming
- 1:02:54out, I think it's either this week or next week.
- 1:02:57Wait wait wait, they dated it 2. Weeks 2 weeks.
- 1:03:00Yeah, Oh yes, cuz I, I, I hope, I hope they did better with this
- 1:03:06port than they did with front mission 2.
- 1:03:09This is yeah, I think they had nothing.
- 1:03:12Well, yeah, it's a yeah, it's a, it's a remake.
- 1:03:14It's a remake. But yeah, like the The Front
- 1:03:17Mission 2 remake will have a lot to be desired.
- 1:03:20Yeah, I think they had enough to like last week that they got
- 1:03:24dated. For good 3.
- 1:03:26Good. And then I'm wondering, are they
- 1:03:27going to continue and go to this front mission 4 after this?
- 1:03:32Good question. Was there a four?
- 1:03:34Yeah, PS2. Oh my God was the mountain
- 1:03:37outbreak has a lock picking in the game in it.
- 1:03:40Sold. No, Steph and I played that.
- 1:03:43It was crazy because like we were literally playing this game
- 1:03:47and I like one of our said like the code for one for like a safe
- 1:03:52and like she had to say something and I could look it up
- 1:03:56and figure out what it tied to and then I could give her the
- 1:03:58number right back. Remember Dead Space 3 was like
- 1:04:00that. Got it.
- 1:04:02I mean it's cool that games do that.
- 1:04:04Dead Space 3 was. I mean, say what you want about
- 1:04:06the Co-op in it, it's it did it pretty well, just not a fit.
- 1:04:11I thought the car was fine As as as As someone who considers
- 1:04:14myself a Dead Space aficionado, I I literally did not have a
- 1:04:18problem with that game. No, I didn't either.
- 1:04:20I thought it was a good game. I just, you know, everybody
- 1:04:23liked the shit on EA. At the time, yeah, actually,
- 1:04:26actually Dead Space Three, I was actually able to get a whole
- 1:04:29bunch of new people into Dead Space using that game.
- 1:04:34My only complaint with Dead Space 3 was the reusing of the
- 1:04:37assets, like if the rooms all looked the same because they
- 1:04:41clearly were like the exact same template.
- 1:04:44Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I got.
- 1:04:45That's my issue. But yeah, that's horror games.
- 1:04:51What a great time to be a horror game fan.
- 1:04:53Man, yes. All right, I'm still trying to
- 1:04:59look for this three. I can't see anything on it.
- 1:05:02What? What the hell?
- 1:05:03Oh no, and it's it's just switch right now, but it's coming out
- 1:05:07June 26th, same day as Death Stranding.
- 1:05:20Why must you always make me get it on the switch?
- 1:05:22Feel like I restarted Death Stranding 3 times in my life.
- 1:05:27That's the Rogers just played on Switch too.
- 1:05:30Yeah, yeah, but I would really just like I I really just want
- 1:05:33to like skip the middle man and just go straight to playing on
- 1:05:36PC. Like it's like like it's going
- 1:05:38to it's it's going to be the game that I play on my ROG Ally.
- 1:05:42Oh well, it was on, it was on Switch 1st and that that
- 1:05:44guarantees I still have time to play freaking freaking clear
- 1:05:48Obskewer. The the switch to screen is
- 1:05:50bigger than the rogue ally screen.
- 1:05:52Oh yeah, it is. It is.
- 1:05:53I appreciate that. Yeah, that's kind of neat.
- 1:06:01Yeah, I'm hoping they did a good job on this one though.
- 1:06:05Graphically it looks good. It looks great.
- 1:06:07It looks great. I'm watching the preview right
- 1:06:08now. I'm watching the preview right
- 1:06:10now. Yeah.
- 1:06:11Yeah. So hey, good, good topic, Pat.
- 1:06:14Like, I mean, like, yeah, like I said, I didn't catch, I didn't
- 1:06:16catch enough of if I, if I'm going to be completely honest
- 1:06:19with you, I'll only watch the I'll if we include the the state
- 1:06:22of play. I'll only watch the state of
- 1:06:24play in the in the Xbox showcase like I missed all I missed all
- 1:06:29three days were for the other stuff.
- 1:06:31Pat, what was that horror game that I had that was really bad,
- 1:06:33that had a bunch of like, old dudes with their dongs hanging
- 1:06:36out at you? Agony.
- 1:06:39Was that it? I mean, there's a lot of dongs
- 1:06:42in agony. It was, yeah, I think that,
- 1:06:44yeah. I thought they were all like old
- 1:06:47Brinkley dudes and their dongs are hanging out and they're
- 1:06:49running at you it. Was agony.
- 1:06:51It was agony. God that game was so bad.
- 1:06:54Wow. Whoa.
- 1:06:58I don't know if the dongs made it worse or.
- 1:07:01I swear it probably didn't help. I I I blame scorn for all for
- 1:07:05for for all this phallic imagery and video games now, dude.
- 1:07:11The ending I still like that was a jump scare, man, that was 100%
- 1:07:16jump scare. I jumped out of my seat.
- 1:07:19I was like what the if ever, if you know, you know if you got to
- 1:07:24the end of the corn, but. They drained you of your fluids.
- 1:07:28I jumped out of my seat. I was like.
- 1:07:34Oh, oh boy. All right, well.
- 1:07:37The sound effect made it worse. Oh my God.
- 1:07:41Well, I guess. We can move on to our next.
- 1:07:43Topic right now let's keep talking about scoring oh oh, I'm
- 1:07:48just kidding I'm just. Kidding.
- 1:07:49Sorry, sorry. All right, well, well, just real
- 1:07:54quickly before we move on to our next topic, I want to go ahead
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- 1:08:16We talked about video game mechanics tonight.
- 1:08:18We've also talked about our summer video games that we jam
- 1:08:21out on and horror games are back, baby.
- 1:08:24But you know what it's you know what?
- 1:08:26Let's shift gears for a second here 'cause I want to talk about
- 1:08:30the good old Nintendo Switch to that's funny like that's funny
- 1:08:36like the like the anti Nintendo guys talked about Nintendo for
- 1:08:39three weeks now like. What's going on here?
- 1:08:42Can we just say Nintendo missed the opportunity by calling it a
- 1:08:45Super Nintendo Switch? I'm telling you.
- 1:08:48Everybody, everybody wanted it. I don't understand.
- 1:08:51I don't understand why, you know, because Nintendo loves
- 1:08:54these whimsical names. Why didn't that call the
- 1:08:56Switcheroo? Why?
- 1:08:59I wouldn't have bought it if it's if it was called
- 1:09:01switcheroo, I wouldn't have bought it.
- 1:09:02I mean like hard no. Like Nope.
- 1:09:07You're done. Like even if they said but we're
- 1:09:09launching a dudgeon of Zelda, new Legend of Zelda with it?
- 1:09:11Nope. Sorry like you Sir, have gone
- 1:09:16too far. Nintendo, you've gone too far.
- 1:09:19All right. All right, so if you haven't
- 1:09:22heard now Switch 2 is breaking all sorts of records for
- 1:09:25Nintendo. The biggest launch, the biggest
- 1:09:28launch of a Nintendo console in Japan, the US, the the US launch
- 1:09:33was looking pretty good, shattering previous records of
- 1:09:35over 1.1 million units sold in the first week, which is all
- 1:09:38time high for game hardware in in this country.
- 1:09:42It surpassed PS4's debut. Actually, there's a lot, there's
- 1:09:48a lot, there's a lot take in like, you know, first of all,
- 1:09:50like everybody give, everybody give Nintendo their flowers for
- 1:09:52a successful launch. You know, let's let's say that
- 1:09:57right now. And having a good stock like you
- 1:09:59can, even if you didn't pre-order it, you can sometimes
- 1:10:01walk into a store and find. Yeah, yeah, like I was in, Yeah,
- 1:10:05like I actually saw, I actually saw a couple on the shelves last
- 1:10:08time I was in Best Buy, which my Best Buy gets a lot of freaking
- 1:10:11foot traffic. And I was actually shocked that
- 1:10:14I actually saw some on the shelf.
- 1:10:16Like it was only three, but I saw them.
- 1:10:20Yeah. Yeah, So, you know, Nintendo has
- 1:10:23made history with the Switch too, selling, selling all these
- 1:10:25units and surpassing PS4's legendary launch numbers.
- 1:10:30I I can't remember what PS4's launch numbers were.
- 1:10:32And I guess I should have like, like already had this reference
- 1:10:36before. You know, we, we ran the show
- 1:10:37tonight. But yeah, according to reports,
- 1:10:43one of the biggest factors driving the Swiss 2's explosive
- 1:10:46launch was its killer lineup of games, with nearly 80% of buyers
- 1:10:50picking up Mario Kart World alongside with their new
- 1:10:52console. Let's talk about this real
- 1:10:53quickly. How many people actually have
- 1:10:56Mario Kart World 'cause I don't. OK, OK, good.
- 1:11:00You guys, you guys can. Have sorry Lorine, I tried.
- 1:11:02Yeah. No, no.
- 1:11:03No, no, no, no, no, no. It's it's all good.
- 1:11:05It's all good on on that one. Because I'm not I'm, I'm not a
- 1:11:08Mario Kart fan. So, you know, like.
- 1:11:11When Nintendo first released their survey, I chose that one
- 1:11:14because at first I'm like, oh, you know, I I'll probably just
- 1:11:18get physical. But then all the game card shit
- 1:11:20came out and it's like, OK, digital it is.
- 1:11:24Yeah, like a yeah, so they. Didn't give me a.
- 1:11:26Choice. Yeah, Mario Kart wasn't going to
- 1:11:28Mario Kart wasn't going to move mountains from me like, you
- 1:11:31know, but but yeah, like so. And honestly, like, all I did
- 1:11:36was I took my, my Breath of the Wild and, and, and did and, and
- 1:11:41spent $10 and updated that because, you know, I was one of
- 1:11:43those lucky people that got it for that.
- 1:11:45Got the original game for $30.00 because Best Buy had lost their
- 1:11:48mind one week. Oh.
- 1:11:49Man, the Nintendo put two surpassed 3D O in sales numbers.
- 1:11:54Dang. Yeah.
- 1:11:58Yeah, all right, so, All right, So guys, first impressions of
- 1:12:01Mario Kart World. First of all, what?
- 1:12:02What'd y'all think? Beautiful gay look.
- 1:12:08Rainbow Rd. made me cry tears of joy.
- 1:12:13Awesome. Beautiful.
- 1:12:15Yeah. Worth.
- 1:12:16For me it is. Yeah, Oh yeah, and and you can
- 1:12:20tell. The quality.
- 1:12:21And Nintendo, Nintendo could have physically licked the
- 1:12:24cartridge and it wouldn't be worth it, wouldn't be worth the
- 1:12:26money for you. So news just came out that they
- 1:12:29had 300 people working on this gang.
- 1:12:34Yeah, they stuff. Yeah, Steph 4K just posted some
- 1:12:41news myths about it. They Yeah.
- 1:12:44Mario Kart World has a development team of over 322
- 1:12:47game designers, 86 programmers and 192 artists.
- 1:12:52Runner Lift Soft had 30 people, Bandai Knuckle had 31 people and
- 1:12:56one of Studios 24 people also pitched.
- 1:12:58Wait, Bandai Namco chipped in on this?
- 1:13:01Yep. I'm not the first time they
- 1:13:03chipped in for a Mario Kart game.
- 1:13:05Oh, was that was that game? Yeah, yeah, because Ben and
- 1:13:08Merkel did their arcade games for a.
- 1:13:10Mario Kart. OK, OK, OK.
- 1:13:12I was not aware of that. Like I said, I'm not a, I'm not
- 1:13:15a, I'm not a Mario Kart person. So I didn't know that.
- 1:13:18You can play Spackman in the Arcade 1 true story.
- 1:13:25OK, actually, you know what? I think you.
- 1:13:29I have no idea. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:13:32Well, OK, so so how how important has a is a strong
- 1:13:36launch title to a console's early success?
- 1:13:38I mean, Nintendo kind of does this, you know, like they they
- 1:13:41always have like an it factor game like when they when they
- 1:13:45launch, you know, like if we go back to the Super NES days,
- 1:13:48like, you know, like the the pack end of Mario Kart, Mario
- 1:13:51Kart, Mario Brothers and Duck Hunt.
- 1:13:52You know, Super Nintendo. Did they have some?
- 1:13:55They didn't have anything, did they?
- 1:13:57Yeah, they had. Some vampire world.
- 1:13:59Mario wings Pilot Wings in pilot.
- 1:14:01OK, yeah, I remember Mario 64 and and and Wavery 64.
- 1:14:08Yeah. Yeah, I I would say ever since,
- 1:14:10yeah, I mean, game 264 had yeah. Yeah.
- 1:14:15But wait, that was that we. Mentioned some Mario fans.
- 1:14:18Yeah. We mentioned was Game 2.
- 1:14:20Yeah, GameCube. Yeah, I thought.
- 1:14:22Wait, when did so? When did the Mario Sunshine?
- 1:14:25That is, that came. About two years.
- 1:14:28Yeah. Really.
- 1:14:30Really. OK, OK.
- 1:14:31OK. Yeah, we we got a Mario Kart, a
- 1:14:35Smash Brothers before Mario. Can I?
- 1:14:39Can I, can I share something with you guys right now?
- 1:14:43I think, I think honestly, as far as the gaming lineup went
- 1:14:46for the, for the Switch to, I think it, I think it was a
- 1:14:50little lacking, you know? You think, You think.
- 1:14:54I think it is, yeah. OK, OK, OK.
- 1:14:57I was trying to explain why. Pat's going to explain why.
- 1:15:00OK, there's only one true switch to game.
- 1:15:03Everything else is a port of LRA.
- 1:15:05Upgrade which has been every more recent generation over the
- 1:15:10last like 1520 years. Yeah.
- 1:15:12PS 5 was the same, PS4 was the same.
- 1:15:15I apologize. There are three Switch two
- 1:15:17games, even though one's a remaster.
- 1:15:20One's a remaster. The Bravery default's only a
- 1:15:24Switch 2 Yeah, the Welcome Tour's only a switch to, and
- 1:15:28Mario Kart's only a switch to. Which I do, which I do have the
- 1:15:31welcome tour game. I was like, you know what I'm
- 1:15:33just going to I'm just going to spend the $10.
- 1:15:34Just check it out. Yeah.
- 1:15:35You can't even play it unless you buy it.
- 1:15:37Yeah, I can't yeah, I'm yeah, I'm like, I don't want to spend
- 1:15:39the money on these peripherals because like, I'm not going to
- 1:15:41play my Switch like that. You're.
- 1:15:43Not going to buy that webcam. No no, and I haven't even
- 1:15:47pressed C to chat yet. Oh wow.
- 1:15:53There's not the first thing to chat on, you know, in my, in my
- 1:15:55opinion, I'm not. But I'm also kind of hoping
- 1:15:57that, you know, like some of my, if some of my, if some of my
- 1:16:00existing Switch titles, you know, wind up getting some more
- 1:16:03of those enhancements. I'll spend the $10.00 for that
- 1:16:05because I spent the $10.00 for the for the Last of Us Part 2
- 1:16:08enhancement. When, when that?
- 1:16:09Some of them, some of them I think there's a list out of
- 1:16:13there. Some of them they don't have an
- 1:16:14uncapped frame rate so they just automatic get the update when
- 1:16:17you put it in for it. Oh, good.
- 1:16:21So maybe 511 Three Houses, like, you know, like the battle
- 1:16:24scenes, like they don't look, they won't look like they're
- 1:16:26going in 20 frames. Well, just the background.
- 1:16:30The background characters, Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:16:33Now Breath of the, I'm playing Breath of the Wild on my because
- 1:16:35I've been itching to go back to that game.
- 1:16:37And I was like, well, I'll just wait for the switch, shoot,
- 1:16:39because it's getting the upgrade and it it looks amazing.
- 1:16:41Just the the frame, the 60 frames a second and just sitting
- 1:16:45here watching the blades of grass kind of flow in and out.
- 1:16:47Oh man, yeah. Which is surprising because the
- 1:16:51Switch 2 versions of those games on cart, they're like on the MPD
- 1:16:55also they also so there's some numbers.
- 1:16:59Here we go. Yeah, maybe I'll finally play
- 1:17:01Final Fantasy 12 Zodiac Age, maybe because I have, I have
- 1:17:05that on Switch. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:17:08Yeah. OK, well.
- 1:17:13The I, I think it came out for the switch when that first came
- 1:17:17out, but it's like fast. It's like AF0 slash.
- 1:17:23Wipeout Fast RMX. Fast RMX yeah, yeah, but it it's
- 1:17:27not called it's it was fast RMX when the switch came out.
- 1:17:30Yeah, it's fast something. Or furious something.
- 1:17:35Yeah, probably. I'm about to look it up but it's
- 1:17:38really good. Yeah, they just like if you get
- 1:17:40a switch to that is a must have on the system.
- 1:17:43Fast Fusion. Fast Fusion.
- 1:17:45Yeah, 100%. I mean, Nintendo, I, I, I swear
- 1:17:49Nintendo's given up on F0 even though we're getting, we got it
- 1:17:52on the GameCube, you know, Switch Online thing, whatever.
- 1:17:56But I don't think we're going to see a new F0 in the near future
- 1:17:59so fast. Fusion is about as close as
- 1:18:02you're going to get. Oh, now I remember where I was
- 1:18:07going with this. OK, so so we got Mario Kart
- 1:18:10World, right? Do you think?
- 1:18:13Do you do you guys, I guess the question is do you guys think
- 1:18:18this is going to factor in and make, you know, make this one
- 1:18:20the strongest console launches ever because I don't.
- 1:18:26See. I'm, I'm not a Mario Kart fan,
- 1:18:29so like this didn't move this didn't move the needle for me
- 1:18:31that much. Like, I knew I was going to get
- 1:18:33the console, but I, you know, I, I, I was not getting Mario Kart.
- 1:18:36And truth be told, like, you know, like you know, 'cause
- 1:18:40isn't one of the Mario Party games getting like a getting
- 1:18:43like a, a refresh? Jamboree.
- 1:18:45Yeah, Jamboree getting getting new content.
- 1:18:48Yeah, that's the one I don't. That's the one I didn't care
- 1:18:49about either. I mean, if you're going to
- 1:18:53launch a game, a Nintendo console with one of your most
- 1:18:58popular games, Mario Kart's going to be it, you know, And I
- 1:19:02think that's definitely overshadowed.
- 1:19:03They're lacking release, you know, titles.
- 1:19:07I mean. It's great that you could play
- 1:19:09Cyberpunk on a Nintendo system. That's cool, yes.
- 1:19:12Yeah, that's cool. You know, if I didn't already
- 1:19:14have it for. Made-up if I didn't already have
- 1:19:16it for. Oh, go ahead.
- 1:19:18No, I was just going to say Mario Kart.
- 1:19:20Just basically, I mean, it's, it's a new Mario Kart.
- 1:19:23Everybody loves Mario Kart. So I mean.
- 1:19:25That's overshadowed everything else.
- 1:19:27And plus we have like 72 some million on the previous console.
- 1:19:31So that's like, if if we're going to have that high number,
- 1:19:35it's a possible chance that we could get that we could meet
- 1:19:38that same number as more sisters come out, because that just
- 1:19:41makes it a 1 to 1 ordeal for Nintendo, whether people get it
- 1:19:46digitally or physical, that's going to just like show how
- 1:19:49powerful Mario Kart is. You know if they get if they get
- 1:19:53for the switches at the end of I was going to.
- 1:19:57Say, I feel like the price tag is a little bit of a hindrance,
- 1:20:00though. Like, you know, people are
- 1:20:01really questioning, you know, why?
- 1:20:03Why $80, you know? But they're paying it.
- 1:20:06But still paying. But Lauren, they said the same
- 1:20:09thing for 10s of the Kingdom. It says the Kingdom did 10
- 1:20:11million in three days whenever it was released.
- 1:20:15Yeah, I mean, it was like it was $70.00, but I mean, well,
- 1:20:18here's. Well, here's well, here's the
- 1:20:19thing I can say about Tears of the Kingdom.
- 1:20:20Tears of the Kingdom was a was like.
- 1:20:23A true A true. Blue.
- 1:20:24Direct. Sequel to an existing Zelda
- 1:20:28game, so people were people were chomping at the bit for that
- 1:20:31same real. Asset from Breath of the Wild.
- 1:20:34I still won't forgive them. Yeah.
- 1:20:35Yeah, yeah. I I do remember people were like
- 1:20:38a $70 glorified DLC. Basically, yeah.
- 1:20:42It did it with something completely different and it's
- 1:20:44doing like it hit double digits. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:20:51I'm not. I mean, I'm not.
- 1:20:52I'm not. Really arguing?
- 1:20:54I'm just like, I'm just like being the devil's advocate here
- 1:20:56by saying, you know, like people, yeah.
- 1:20:58And stories, right, People, people are paying the price tag,
- 1:21:01but the same time they're like, this game is $80, you know,
- 1:21:05like, you know, this game is $80.00 for a base edition.
- 1:21:07It's not deluxe edition, you know, it's not a, you know, it's
- 1:21:10not a, it's not a premium edition or whatnot.
- 1:21:12Is this it's $80.00 for for a base edition you know?
- 1:21:17And I, I think people who just like hear, hear it don't never,
- 1:21:21they hear the price, but don't say how much content is in the
- 1:21:25game or speak about that, because of course some people
- 1:21:28want to do content by dollar and, and all of that.
- 1:21:31But I think a lot of people just like, they don't fetter in the
- 1:21:33content that's in the game, the replayability and you know what,
- 1:21:38what people going to be doing with their friends and family
- 1:21:41playing this game and stuff like there's much to it.
- 1:21:44That's just the price tag. And I think they're using the
- 1:21:46price. Some people use the price tag
- 1:21:48once again to get engaged. They don't care about the price.
- 1:21:54I'm. Glad you mentioned it.
- 1:21:55I'm glad you mentioned the dollar, the dollar, the dollar
- 1:21:58price tag on that, because I feel like that was one of the
- 1:22:02stupidest metrics that people had for like, you know, like
- 1:22:05getting value for their games and stuff like that.
- 1:22:07You know what I mean? Like, you know, it's a $60.00
- 1:22:09game. Was it worth $60 worth to play
- 1:22:11through or something? You know, some crap like that.
- 1:22:13You know, everybody gets their own.
- 1:22:14Everybody gets their own enjoyment in games a certain
- 1:22:16way, you know? You know differently, I mean.
- 1:22:19Clarif's gear came out, it was $50.00.
- 1:22:21I would have gladly paid $80. For it, I would, yeah, I would
- 1:22:25have paid. I would have paid the premium
- 1:22:26dollar for that. Yeah, it it's really up to the
- 1:22:28publisher and their subjective view of just like, yeah, this is
- 1:22:31going to be a game that has immense amount of replayability,
- 1:22:34so maybe they try to monetize that or they try to quantify.
- 1:22:37Like, so, yeah, you know, you could play this over and over
- 1:22:40and over again, you know, and it's like, OK, Can you imagine
- 1:22:43if Call of Duty started doing that or Fortnite started doing
- 1:22:46that? Jeez, yeah, they.
- 1:22:48They kind of do. What they'd?
- 1:22:50Be they. Kind of do it right?
- 1:22:52So check. So check this because this is
- 1:22:54one thing I definitely applaud Nintendo on.
- 1:22:56They managed to like to like hit the scalpers where it really
- 1:22:59hurt. By actually having a stock of
- 1:23:02systems. By having a stock of systems you
- 1:23:04know you know. Giving them to brick and mortar
- 1:23:07stores. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I so I
- 1:23:12applaud their proactive stance on on with the switch too by
- 1:23:15tightening pre-order rules. And actually I feel like the
- 1:23:17pre-order rules are a little wonky, but you know, hey, like
- 1:23:20thanks to pre ordering I was actually able to get one.
- 1:23:25Yeah, you had actually more success.
- 1:23:27I mean, I mean, I mean, I had help.
- 1:23:28I had help with one. Wow.
- 1:23:32I actually, I was, I actually went to my local target and when
- 1:23:38I got there it was only about four or five people in line.
- 1:23:42So and then they saw it, they, they was like, we got 50
- 1:23:44bundles, we got 50 regular ones. And I was.
- 1:23:49Able isn't that? Weird.
- 1:23:50We we had we had a console launched that didn't feel like
- 1:23:53an actual console launched. Isn't that weird?
- 1:23:56Yeah. Yeah, like people like people
- 1:23:58woke up. People woke up like 2 days
- 1:23:59before the switch to was dropping.
- 1:24:01I was like, hey, a new system's coming out.
- 1:24:04It wasn't like when the PS, when the PS5 and the Xbox Series X
- 1:24:07were coming out. Like everybody's like, Oh yes, I
- 1:24:09can't wait. I got to have one of these if
- 1:24:10you do it. I was like, I'm I was planning
- 1:24:14to get them. Oh, I'm sorry.
- 1:24:17Oh, I was planning on getting my.
- 1:24:19I was planning on getting my next.
- 1:24:21Month well, you're well, you're well, you're different, you're
- 1:24:24different. You're you're a Nintendo part.
- 1:24:26I was going to say, I don't. I don't believe that for a
- 1:24:28second. Eddie No, no, I, I, I literally
- 1:24:30it on pop like and I even told Corey I was just like, I'm going
- 1:24:33to get mines in July because I feel like everything is going to
- 1:24:37be sold out on day one with the pre-orders.
- 1:24:41I didn't know what the allocation would be in stores.
- 1:24:44I know that Nintendo said we'll have some in stores, but I'm
- 1:24:47thinking everybody's going to be at the stores from their
- 1:24:50midnight release and get in and get in the system.
- 1:24:53So I just said by have a chance have a stance.
- 1:24:57Let me try target that's close to us and see if they have one
- 1:25:01and they well. I mean, as gamers, as, as gamers
- 1:25:04in, in, in the current, in the current climate of gaming right
- 1:25:07now, like we kind of got burnt by a lot of like, by a lot of
- 1:25:09like, you know, stuff, you know. The PS5 especially, right?
- 1:25:13Yeah, the PS Five. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:25:16And like we got burnt. So like we were, we were really
- 1:25:18feeling like the the Astor, what do you want to call it, you
- 1:25:21know, behind like, am I actually going to be able to get one of
- 1:25:23these things? You know, I wound up in the hot.
- 1:25:25I wound up in the hot scramble. Like I was like, am I going to
- 1:25:27get one of these? Spy Wave did a news story about
- 1:25:32the scoffers Who try to buy as many as they can or whatever and
- 1:25:37throw them up and they were just like they got some like for 607
- 1:25:42hundred some dollars and no one's buying it because it was
- 1:25:45so available on the day that it came out.
- 1:25:50So I'm hoping Sony takes, I'm hoping Sony takes notes on this
- 1:25:53one because we don't know if Microsoft's going to make
- 1:25:55another console. No, they are actually.
- 1:25:58Yeah, I know. I was being OK.
- 1:26:00I was being. Alright, I was going to say you
- 1:26:02got the Xbox guy here. Like hey, hey, hey, I.
- 1:26:05Was being. Put out a video today.
- 1:26:07He has 10,000 units made of their PS six.
- 1:26:10It's scary be launch and yeah, then they'll just try and, you
- 1:26:14know, trickle in more systems as it comes along.
- 1:26:17Oh sure, yeah. But I feel like for PS Five in
- 1:26:21Series X&S to move on to their next system.
- 1:26:24I feel like is this a Wii U situation where it's just, it's
- 1:26:28just feel like a short lifespan for a system to be out, even
- 1:26:35though they got like numbers and stuff do it just feels like I
- 1:26:38don't. I feel like it's just too it's
- 1:26:40too quick for them to move on to making their next systems.
- 1:26:45I don't know who you. Talking about, I mean, I mean,
- 1:26:47we got. For Sony and Microsoft.
- 1:26:50Oh, OK. They're, well, they're, I mean,
- 1:26:51they're already, they're, they're already in the lab, like
- 1:26:53doing this stuff, though, 'cause they're I.
- 1:26:54Mean. Yeah, but I'm just like, what's
- 1:26:57to announce it? Like it just feels like, 'cause
- 1:27:00when did those systems come out? Was it 2000?
- 1:27:02Was it 19 or 20? 2020.
- 1:27:05It was 2000, yeah, 20/20/2020. 2012 so you would, so you would
- 1:27:09think around like 26 or 27 they were announced that they're
- 1:27:14working on their new system or something.
- 1:27:16Not this early. My, well, my theory is, my
- 1:27:19theory is, is that you know, like #1 like the, the overall
- 1:27:22console, the, the overall console sales post launch, you
- 1:27:25know, just did not hit the way they wanted to.
- 1:27:27You know, like I'm pretty sure there's still, there's still
- 1:27:29assholes out there with like, with like scout systems that are
- 1:27:32trying to still like built people for, you know, money and
- 1:27:34stuff like that. You know, you know, you know,
- 1:27:37and, and it hurts and it hurts Sony, Sony admitted it.
- 1:27:40Like it hurts. It hurts their overall they,
- 1:27:42they, they can't track their quantitative sales because like
- 1:27:45basically they know they sold the system, but what they don't
- 1:27:49know is did they sell? How many customers are actually
- 1:27:52playing it? Because they use like logins to
- 1:27:54the PlayStation ID to figure out like, you know, bona fide, like
- 1:27:58is this a true, like a true console in your hand type thing?
- 1:28:01Ain't no, so there's, there's, there's, there's hundreds of
- 1:28:04consoles sitting in someone's basement.
- 1:28:05Well, people's basements, you know, that are never getting
- 1:28:08turned on and stuff like that. And yeah, Sony got the money for
- 1:28:10it, but they're not getting, they're not getting the
- 1:28:12residuals for the fact that someone has a live system in
- 1:28:14their in their hand. And to be a scarper stuck with
- 1:28:18all of those systems. Hey, that's on there.
- 1:28:21And you got to sell for a loss at some point, so.
- 1:28:23Yeah, yeah. I mean, hey, you know, yeah.
- 1:28:25Like they're, they're actually, they're actually learning what
- 1:28:28the, what the, what the marketing and merchandising
- 1:28:31world has known for like the beginning of time.
- 1:28:33I wonder like their credit, I wonder what their credit card
- 1:28:36companies are saying like. They probably, they probably,
- 1:28:40they probably sent loans out just to fix their credit cards.
- 1:28:43Yeah. Now what the banks are saying
- 1:28:47about that, because that's like that's interest.
- 1:28:49I'm like so you still paying a lot of money and not making
- 1:28:52nothing? Yeah, yeah, but but, but staying
- 1:28:57with the same topic, but switching gears just a moment
- 1:28:59because we didn't invoke Sony's name.
- 1:29:02Shuhei Yoshi though, you know that guy right?
- 1:29:06He revealed he revealed in the recent interview that
- 1:29:08PlayStation has long seen Xbox, not Nintendo as the primary
- 1:29:12rival outside Japan, with Sony viewing Nintendo as a creator of
- 1:29:16family focused entry level gaming.
- 1:29:19Meanwhile, amid this whole thing with Nintendo's switch to
- 1:29:22shattering the US hardware sales does raise a question about
- 1:29:25whether Sony should start paying more attention to to Nintendo.
- 1:29:29Ed, I'm, I'm gonna lob this your way first because I know you got
- 1:29:32I know you got some stuff to say so.
- 1:29:34Yes. So go to that family friendly
- 1:29:38thing. It doesn't make sense that the
- 1:29:41family friendly thing is being used when it's something like
- 1:29:44Doom is selling a million while something like that actually.
- 1:29:48Hold on, hold on. Let me, let me just let me just
- 1:29:51just to just to clarify just a little bit run was back in PS4.
- 1:29:56So, so think of it from where he's thinking about during that
- 1:29:59time frame, you know? Yeah.
- 1:30:01Well, you got to think that you don't hit almost 150 systems and
- 1:30:07you think that that's 156,000,000 kids doing it.
- 1:30:11No, it's a lot of adults who were Brian these systems, Brian
- 1:30:14the collectors making a lot of games from all from every rating
- 1:30:19besides AO hit like a million plus sales, whether it's ND or
- 1:30:25or first party or third party. Like you can't still use that
- 1:30:30family friendly subject anymore when all of these different type
- 1:30:34of games for various ages of players are making numbers and
- 1:30:40stuff. Nintendo created a sister for
- 1:30:42everyone to play. It's not just family friended,
- 1:30:45everyone is playing it. Because if you look on social
- 1:30:48media, you and you see pictures of people posting games, it's a
- 1:30:52bunch of adults that are posting it.
- 1:30:55So where's that family friendly? If they'd be like, I can't wait
- 1:30:58to play Mario Kart with my friends and stuff.
- 1:31:01I can't wait to play Mario Party or I can't wait to talk about
- 1:31:05Bayonetta 3 or Fire Emblem 3 houses.
- 1:31:08Like what kid is playing Fire Emblem 3 houses?
- 1:31:12They got a Nintendo Switch, you know, and that deals with themes
- 1:31:16of death and, you know, problems and relationships and stuff.
- 1:31:22No 9 or 8 year old is thinking about that and stuff.
- 1:31:25And this is coming from Nintendo, you know, of of an 8
- 1:31:29or 9 year old is thinking about the game.
- 1:31:31It's Fortnite or it's Roblox or Minecraft.
- 1:31:35You're not going to buy Nintendo Switch like that.
- 1:31:37So I think using that term family friendly is it is it's
- 1:31:42something that it's going to hurt you in the long run.
- 1:31:45Just be like Nintendo may a competitive console that seems
- 1:31:49to a popular console or that's like his various ages and Sony
- 1:31:55needs to pay attention to that because.
- 1:31:59So you're telling me we need more astrobot?
- 1:32:02Even if you. Need more Astrobot?
- 1:32:05Even if we do need more astrobot, yes.
- 1:32:07We do. We do.
- 1:32:08You want you want to know why? Because when Spider Man 2 came
- 1:32:12out against Mario Wonder, Spider Man did.
- 1:32:16Spider Man 2 did do great in the sales, but Mario Wonder was
- 1:32:20selling every month and so if your biggest game is still AE
- 1:32:27rated gang like Astrobot and it's game of the year, yeah, you
- 1:32:31might want to start making a variety of games that is going
- 1:32:35to hit any age that people are going to love.
- 1:32:38People are mad at you because you're remastering The Last of
- 1:32:41Us Part 2. This is your third version of
- 1:32:43doing it. PlayStation players don't want
- 1:32:46to do that right now. For Nintendo players, we won't.
- 1:32:49We won't win Record HD to come support of a Wii U game.
- 1:32:53Yeah, yeah. But they wound up giving us the
- 1:32:56GameCube version was I'm like, we didn't ask for this.
- 1:32:59Actually, actually, actually the GameCube version, if you, if you
- 1:33:05played it LeBron, it's really good.
- 1:33:08I did. I did play.
- 1:33:09I did play. I, well, I mean, I haven't
- 1:33:12played on Switch too, but I did play it on, I did play the
- 1:33:14original one on the on the Wii on the GameCube.
- 1:33:19Jesus. Oh it that.
- 1:33:21Don't make any mad, Loran, no. No, no.
- 1:33:24But I I I just think that if. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, it
- 1:33:28plays. Oh, so wait, it it it's playing
- 1:33:30at 1:20 on on Swiss 2. I think it's 60 frames.
- 1:33:34I think it's 6 frames. OK, yeah, because it's really
- 1:33:38smooth, like there is no slow down at all.
- 1:33:41It may be some slow down. It's something to load in at
- 1:33:43some parts, but it's really smooth and you can see it in the
- 1:33:46animation. It's really, really good.
- 1:33:49So I, I just think that Microsoft learned to be like,
- 1:33:54you know what, we're not even going to compete with Nintendo.
- 1:33:56In fact, let's partner up with Nintendo and work with them and
- 1:34:00see what we could do. And it's been a great business
- 1:34:03from. I think, I think Microsoft, I
- 1:34:06think Microsoft had to do something I mean because like I
- 1:34:08mean you know, like some even eating Microsoft lunch for, for
- 1:34:11like for like 2 console generations.
- 1:34:14Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:34:16Because the. Because the.
- 1:34:17Because the PS4 and the Xbox One thing some people are still
- 1:34:22feeling, but I'm like Xbox got some really great games out
- 1:34:25there. They've been they've been like
- 1:34:28making moves this year from Microsoft has been a big year.
- 1:34:33And if you think I'm lying, just check out their first party
- 1:34:35games, check out their sales on PlayStation 4 and on PC like I
- 1:34:42think it would. Something was like #1
- 1:34:44pre-ordered on PlayStation 4 or five, I think it was a Sea of
- 1:34:48Thieves and stuff like that. Hit #1 on the pre-orders when
- 1:34:53Microsoft announced it that it was coming to PlayStation.
- 1:34:57That's Boyfriend that's big for Microsoft.
- 1:35:01So Microsoft would just like we don't care about competition,
- 1:35:03Nintendo don't care about competition.
- 1:35:05Everything is an Xbox, Eddie. Yeah.
- 1:35:08Right, everything is an Xbox. Story Pat, did you guys have
- 1:35:11anything you want to add on to this?
- 1:35:12What? Were we talking about?
- 1:35:16I I don't. About about, about, about about
- 1:35:19how Sony. About how Sony did not focus on
- 1:35:21Nintendo being a threat to them. I don't think so.
- 1:35:26Nintendo is in the league of its own.
- 1:35:28Like Nintendo's not even competing.
- 1:35:31And I think like Phil Spencer even said it himself, like
- 1:35:34Nintendo's doing its own thing. They're not looking over to see
- 1:35:38what Sony and Microsoft are doing, obviously, because Sony
- 1:35:41and Microsoft are similar and hardware is similar in
- 1:35:43competition, similar games and everything.
- 1:35:47You know, what makes PlayStation 5 successful is completely
- 1:35:50different than what makes the Nintendo Switch and Nintendo
- 1:35:52Switch 2 successful. So I mean, you know, are there
- 1:35:57family friendly games on the Sony systems?
- 1:35:59Yeah, there are. But I'm all about diversifying
- 1:36:04your content. I think for a while during the
- 1:36:07PS4 era we had a lot of like mature themed, you know, third
- 1:36:12person action adventure games, you know, from Sony First Party
- 1:36:17Studios that it's like, OK, it's the same old, same old, same
- 1:36:20old, you know, And then Astrobot comes out and just blows
- 1:36:24everybody out of the water. Yeah.
- 1:36:28No, I, I, I kind of agree in that respect as well that Sony
- 1:36:34didn't. Nintendo and Sony, they are two
- 1:36:37different markets in that sense that or at least their aim is
- 1:36:42two different groups. And instead of saying family
- 1:36:46friendly or family focus, I'm going to say Nintendo and more
- 1:36:49for the casual gamer. Not casual in a bad way, more
- 1:36:52casual as in I'm, you know, only have a couple hours a week to
- 1:36:57play a video game. You know, I'm going to pick up
- 1:37:00something that's easy to pick up.
- 1:37:03You know, relaxing to play where?
- 1:37:05You know, it doesn't take a lot, doesn't take a big investment
- 1:37:07from the gamer. Or do I have to know so much
- 1:37:11about previous series entries to be able to understand that
- 1:37:16Sony's market definitely was not that, and the reason Sony's
- 1:37:22struggling now is because they put the whole focus in the live
- 1:37:25service. Then now that that's not panning
- 1:37:30out, like most of their game library doesn't exist.
- 1:37:34So they're trying to restructure that.
- 1:37:39And Nintendo just is like Nintendo's got a good game plan.
- 1:37:43They they space their games out, have all their franchise not
- 1:37:47necessarily hit on the same year.
- 1:37:50And you know, they keep they keep a good rotation going,
- 1:37:54something that I think Microsoft is starting to pick up on now
- 1:37:58and do with their gaming studios.
- 1:38:01And something Sony needs to do a lot better on, especially after
- 1:38:04they just announced that they will focus on 110th pole, at
- 1:38:08least one tent pole game a year, several multiplayer games and
- 1:38:12other like service. Like they still want to focus on
- 1:38:15that live service and try and hit that golden goose.
- 1:38:18It's like don't do that. Yeah.
- 1:38:20I think I think what Sony Microsoft kind of well, I'm
- 1:38:24gonna say Sony Microsoft. I would say this more about
- 1:38:26Nintendo, Nintendo partnership and working with like way four
- 1:38:31and band and Nicole and Platinum games and now from Software with
- 1:38:36blood lust, blood blood dust, like, oh, dust bloods, I'm sorry
- 1:38:41about that. It said like Nintendo is willing
- 1:38:45to work with all of these part these partners and they and they
- 1:38:50make all of these great gangs. Mercury system is a good one.
- 1:38:53Like we are always say cast their Castlevania gang was hit
- 1:38:59or miss, depending on what you what you thinking.
- 1:39:01But then you go to Simmons returns, great gang, Metroid,
- 1:39:07Metroid Dread, hot game that everybody wish that that was
- 1:39:11game of the year and it's still so good.
- 1:39:13And that put them in good graces with a lot of people.
- 1:39:16Like, I think that even just with Nintendo's partnership
- 1:39:19makes people realize that Nintendo, you know, they had
- 1:39:25their their lows, you know, but they came back and they came
- 1:39:29back snappy, you know. And I think, I think Microsoft
- 1:39:34and Sony would love to have that.
- 1:39:37Not saying that they're failing in a lot of things, but they
- 1:39:39wish they had. They cut that combat that that
- 1:39:44Nintendo has where people was doubting them.
- 1:39:48Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:39:51All right, well, despite Nintendo's switch to smashing
- 1:39:53sales records and expanding the gaming audience, Sony continues
- 1:39:57to view Nintendo as more of an as more as an industry partner
- 1:39:59than a direct. Rival.
- 1:40:01Meaning, because I know people are like, wait, didn't you just
- 1:40:04say something completely different industry partner,
- 1:40:07meaning that, you know, like they're, they both have the same
- 1:40:10strategy and goal without actually being direct
- 1:40:12competition to each other. You know, right now Sony's in
- 1:40:16the more precarious position with that.
- 1:40:17So focusing on the focusing on the competitive energy with
- 1:40:20Microsoft instead has kind of been what their thing is.
- 1:40:23And you know, like Microsoft is not quite ready to roll over and
- 1:40:25show us, show us bellies just yet because there is a new
- 1:40:27console coming, you know, and of course, like we've got a new ROG
- 1:40:31Ally system coming that, you know, I cannot wait for
- 1:40:33personally. However, with Nintendo's growing
- 1:40:37global impact and evolving hybrid console markets, Sony may
- 1:40:40need to ultimately rethink the entire strategy and just to stay
- 1:40:43ahead. Or at least 2 Stay neck and neck
- 1:40:45with them. See Sony.
- 1:40:48Yeah, 'cause Sony is being sneaky.
- 1:40:51What they're doing is they're putting some of their gangs
- 1:40:54through Bandai Neko cause Pat's upon that's a, that's a first
- 1:41:01priority Sony gay and they're releasing it through Bandai
- 1:41:05Neko. And so Sony released a lot of
- 1:41:07their Vita and PSP gangs do Bandai Neko.
- 1:41:12That's good marketing for Sony and good money for them to be
- 1:41:16like, OK, we won't put out the even like the Lego Horizon game.
- 1:41:21Like Sony just like, oh, if Microsoft is getting that coin,
- 1:41:24we want a piece of that coin too.
- 1:41:27And so they're going to figure out a way to probably get some
- 1:41:32of those smarter games onto it. Can you think of Resistance?
- 1:41:36That was on I think PSP coming. It was on Nintendo ESP and PSP
- 1:41:41though. Oh, it was OK if if they could
- 1:41:44fix some some of that stuff and get it on switch to and then I
- 1:41:48never releases it and it does good.
- 1:41:51Don't you think Sony's going to not that's going to continue to
- 1:41:55port more stuff from the handheld games.
- 1:41:58Can you see that Uncharted game that came out but being on
- 1:42:02Switch to and? That.
- 1:42:06Does that would? Never, Yeah.
- 1:42:08Yeah. Yeah, I'm just talking about
- 1:42:11like their PSPPSV, the stuff, you know some of their first
- 1:42:14party stuff, if that end up on switch to and release the band
- 1:42:17and Echo and it's good and they get sales, they see a they just
- 1:42:23even see over 500,000 copies or whatever.
- 1:42:27So it's gonna be like, oh, let's move our strategy to this if our
- 1:42:31live service systems continues not to work.
- 1:42:34Yeah, yeah, alright. We're gonna go ahead and wrap
- 1:42:37that topic up because we need to talk about what we've been
- 1:42:41playing this past week. So Stoy, you go first because
- 1:42:47you're the you're the honored guest here tonight.
- 1:42:51I besides I I just be clear obscure.
- 1:42:55I feel like 2 weeks ago and that that was one of the first games
- 1:43:00in a long time that I was afraid to beat because I was like, it
- 1:43:04reminds me of when I was talking with Andre a lot when Andre
- 1:43:07would like talked about like how like he could never beat Legend
- 1:43:10of Dragoon 'cause he was like, I, he loved the game so much
- 1:43:14that he was like, I don't want to beat it.
- 1:43:15I just started over again. So I got to act 3 and I was
- 1:43:18like, I kind of want to like mop up some side quests and stuff.
- 1:43:21And then I was after a while I was just like, all right, I just
- 1:43:23got to peel the Band-Aid off. So, so far it's my game of the
- 1:43:27year, but I also like I Pat, maybe you'll, you would feel me
- 1:43:35on this one. I got a game in the mail last
- 1:43:38week and I, I was like, oh, I got a game.
- 1:43:41I guess I, I order things from like play Asia and limited run
- 1:43:44and stuff all the time. And it's like I forget until I
- 1:43:48open it, open the box. I'm like, Oh yeah, I remember
- 1:43:50this game. So this game I bought called the
- 1:43:52Steel Seed and I look at it, I'm like.
- 1:43:55OK, I'm like, it's a Metroidvania, right?
- 1:43:59It's it reminds me more like Recore if anything, but like
- 1:44:06Recore meets Metal Gear Solid, kind of.
- 1:44:10But yeah, I looked at it and I was like, I don't remember this
- 1:44:13game. I was like, what, what is this
- 1:44:15game? And like Sarah, my wife, she's
- 1:44:18like, how do you like buy a game and just not know what it is?
- 1:44:20I'm like, I don't know. I just, I must have watched a
- 1:44:22trailer and I was like, this is cool.
- 1:44:24There's got to be a physical copy of it.
- 1:44:25So I saw I watched a trailer and I was like, oh, yeah, I remember
- 1:44:28this game. But yeah, it's like a, it's a
- 1:44:31third person action adventure stealth game.
- 1:44:34I mean, you, you can I I think they want you to play stealthy.
- 1:44:38They want you to. It's like, basically like hide
- 1:44:41behind cover, Yeah. I do remember the previews for
- 1:44:44this one now OK. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:44:45I think it won like some like Joyce Golden Joystick Awards
- 1:44:48last year. You have like a drone with you,
- 1:44:49right? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:44:51And that drone can like you can use the drone to drop, like, you
- 1:44:54know, mines, you can use it to shoot and it it interacts with
- 1:44:58the environment and stuff and you can use it as a drone to tag
- 1:45:01enemies. That's the best part.
- 1:45:02But yeah, like it's actually like if you're if you're kind of
- 1:45:06itching for some like good, really like kind of easy to pick
- 1:45:09up stealth action game. Like this is a good solid game.
- 1:45:13It's like from a developer I've never heard of.
- 1:45:15And good solid AA title, like good voice acting, kind of
- 1:45:19interesting story. I mean, this is standard post
- 1:45:22apocalyptic. The world ended, and now you're
- 1:45:25a resurrected Cyborg that has to re, you know, connect humanity
- 1:45:29to the world kind of thing. Yeah.
- 1:45:33I would say like Metal Gear Solid, a Recore and Horizon 0
- 1:45:39Dawn had a baby. OK.
- 1:45:42That's basically this game. So otherwise I played the I
- 1:45:47played the Ninja Gaiden Ragebound demo.
- 1:45:50Oh my God guys, we're getting a Shinobi side scrolling action
- 1:45:54adventure game and a Ninja Gaiden side scrolling action
- 1:45:58adventure. Game in the same year.
- 1:46:01I'm saying. Yes, and you're getting a Ninja
- 1:46:04Gaiden. We're getting a Ninja Gaiden 3D
- 1:46:05game guys. By. 2020 yes by dude I cried.
- 1:46:11I cried when all of a sudden they were like Platinum's making
- 1:46:14the new Ninja Gaiden game. I was like Oh my God.
- 1:46:17Anyway, Ninja Gaiden Ragebound demo really good.
- 1:46:22It's dot may you they're they're going to knock it out of the
- 1:46:24park and just it it's got kind of like I I didn't realize that
- 1:46:31they remade they remastered a lot of the old music to like
- 1:46:35kind of like modernize it and stuff.
- 1:46:36Oh yeah, and I was. Like not listening to it.
- 1:46:39And I was like, wait a minute, this is like stage 11 and like,
- 1:46:42did you guide into holy shit, this song slaps and it's like
- 1:46:45you heard the other, you know, remake.
- 1:46:46I'm like, Oh my God, it's everything.
- 1:46:49It's really cool. If you have nostalgia for the
- 1:46:51old Ninja Gaiden, like you're you're going to love this.
- 1:46:53I mean, it's got new mechanics in it that makes the game fun
- 1:46:58and not so challenging. Combats not as challenging as I
- 1:47:04think the original game. So I think.
- 1:47:05Oh good, because the original game was the balls questionably
- 1:47:07hard. Yeah, it was.
- 1:47:09I mean, I mean, this one only tenderizes your balls a little
- 1:47:12bit. It just tickles them a little
- 1:47:14bit. It doesn't really.
- 1:47:15Crush them. We can.
- 1:47:16We can only hope. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:47:18So, at least from my experience with the demo so far.
- 1:47:21All right, well, well, real quickly.
- 1:47:23I've. I've been saying it all so long.
- 1:47:25I've. I'm playing clear, obscure
- 1:47:26Expedition 33. Yeah, like the game.
- 1:47:29The game officially has been hooked.
- 1:47:31I love the combat system and and of course the music, the overall
- 1:47:35sign of the game is just, is just amazing, you know, and, and
- 1:47:37I'm one of those people. I'm not really a big RPG gamer
- 1:47:40in my, in my older age now. So, you know, like the fact
- 1:47:43that, you know, like the game actually has me hooked.
- 1:47:45And then I'm actually, if I wasn't trying to go to bed as
- 1:47:48soon as we got the podcast tonight, I would actually go
- 1:47:50play at least 20 minutes of it. I might still play 20 minutes of
- 1:47:52it because I'm I'm a collective punishment, but you know, but I
- 1:47:55am also starting to understand why people are calling for it to
- 1:47:58be a contender for game of the year.
- 1:47:59So yeah, I will. I will keep you guys posted on
- 1:48:02my progress because I will have this game beaten sometime soon.
- 1:48:09Ed, what you been playing? So I am playing light pop
- 1:48:15chainsaw re pop. This is my first time playing
- 1:48:18the game. I never got to got to play it on
- 1:48:20PS3. Downloaded torchlight 2 so I'm
- 1:48:24playing that. I'm going to restart Disco
- 1:48:26Lesium switch to 'cause I had it on my switch, give it a try and
- 1:48:32then put it away 'cause I started playing Xbox playing
- 1:48:36cookie cutter which is a Metroid venia.
- 1:48:40And last but not least people show low in the cursed yo-yo.
- 1:48:43I am at the getting close to the end of it right now.
- 1:48:48I'm just searching for extra stuff, man.
- 1:48:51Pocket Trap and PM Studios, they snapped with this one and this
- 1:48:55one is definitely a game of the year contender from me.
- 1:48:59I played this demo at last year's PAX East and I keep
- 1:49:03talking about it. I got the met the one of the
- 1:49:05developers and they're from Brazil Pocket Trap and I told
- 1:49:09them that not only was that my game of the show for that PAX
- 1:49:14East, I was willing to pay him $20.00 right now to take home
- 1:49:18this demo and play it because it was that good right inside.
- 1:49:23And I was just like, they were supposed, they were supposed to
- 1:49:26release it last year in August for, for a Steam on PC, but they
- 1:49:33pushed it back and released it in May for everything.
- 1:49:36And I was just like, yeah, found out they was doing physical and
- 1:49:40ordered my copy from Canada. It was just like, yeah, got to
- 1:49:43play this. So it's, it's so good, so
- 1:49:46challenging, Eddie. We're going to have to interrupt
- 1:49:48you here just because we got like 2 minutes left, but.
- 1:49:53Yeah. I just want to say I was playing
- 1:49:55Karma, The Dark World. It is a psychological thriller,
- 1:49:59first person, first person psychological thriller made by
- 1:50:03Word Productions. Give it a shot.
- 1:50:05It is very creepy, very dark. I wish I had a better TV because
- 1:50:11my color scheme was very screwed up.
- 1:50:13Unfortunately, when I saw this and then I between the game I
- 1:50:18played and the previews I saw, but it's it's it's a very creepy
- 1:50:23dystopian world where you're kind of a police officer who can
- 1:50:26dive into people's minds to kind of pull the truths, but people's
- 1:50:30minds are also very distorted and, you know, twisted And it's
- 1:50:34a very, very sci-fi, but also like silent hilly kind of
- 1:50:41creepiness to it. So I really enjoyed it.
- 1:50:45Story. It's a game that's 100% up your
- 1:50:48alley. I wrote it down.
- 1:50:50All right, take it away, Lauren. All.
- 1:50:52Right, I want to thank everyone for watching and or listening to
- 1:50:55the show tonight. It was wonderful.
- 1:50:57It was great having you back story even we've even got
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