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Episode 253: The Shroud (SG-1 10.14) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Books, Brendan, I can't help notice something. Yeah, I'm wearing a
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  shirt. It looks amazing. It's kind of not how I wanted it to
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  turn out anyway. Was just like a home This is a home job.
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  No, like, what do you mean? Said? I just like you
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  designed her. This is a sample from a T shirt company like to sell
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  merch for us, but I think I like the other shirt better. I
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  think to sell that, we need to like get it maybe probably three times
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  smaller, cut the sleeves off and make link and wear it because he loves
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  he loves the cutoff tight. I kind of stuff. I put two yellows,
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  which doesn't come out very well. It looks good on like photoshop.
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  Oh yeah, if I wish, i'd ha kind of made it black in
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  the center and glowing out. I gotta be black. This is just a
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  sample, but I don't I like the hat though the hat, the hat
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  works. I'll stop it. Yes he did, No, you did not,
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  My God to make Stargate great again. It's going to be great.
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  All of our American listeners, please buy out big, buy it big,
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  and take them to your voting booths and all your rallies. Okay, especially
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  if you go on to a left wing rally, wear that because it's going
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  to confuse people from a far and then they're going to come at you with
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  like, you know, Babylon shit or do you read mate? It says
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  make Stargate great again, and then you'll make a new friend someone who also
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  loves Stargate. I want to hate it, but I can't. Yeah.
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  I actually thought it was a great idea, and then I started wearing it
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  and I'm like, I feel weird. Yeah, you're like people looking at
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  me. I mean I didn't wear it out. Actually I drove, like
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  just through Brisbane City the other day. I drove past this bloke who was
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  like a flag or something something that was waving the wind of a flag,
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  but it was something separate to his body. Wasn't wearing a hat or a
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  shirt, and it was like it was green and it was like, you
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  know, Trump twenty twenty or Trump twenty twenty four. I feel like maybe
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  it was twenty twenty, Like it wasn't relevant on so many ways, and
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  it was green. It wasn't even wed anyways. It was like he went
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  out of his way to make something and now he's wearing it in Australia where
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  it means nothing. It's just like you know, and people have stickers and
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  stuff. But all I'm saying American listeners, it's not just because well you
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  get to support the show. Just support Stargate. I mean at this stage,
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  you know it's just controversial. Just makes target provocative. I mean in
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  conversations, we all know question. We all know of any character in the
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  Stargate universe that would have worn to make America great again? Would have been
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  Kinsyndred percent. Oh, he probably designed the hat. Fortrun. You know
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  who designed this hat, Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. There is
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  only one guard, sir, that's Donald Trump. Oh, we're going to
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  need more of those stats. Actually, on I say home job, and
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  that's only because I've I've got to I've got to make something. I give
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  myself a home. It's going to be a shirt, and I've got a
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  sneaky feeling. It's not going to be ready next week, but I'll debut
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  it in two weeks. Let's make it because it's an SG one special or
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  something. But I've got I've got something. It's a very exclusive piece.
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  Obviously it's because I'm making one myself but I think if anyone was gonna put
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  it into production it would It's it's very niche. Well, no, that's
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  a tease. If you do want one of these glorious red caps and writing
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  on it which says make Stea great again, don't google red hat with white
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  writing. It's going to take you a different website. Yeah, yeah,
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  let us know, and then we'll make it available. About that, it's
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  just I'm just like your eyes. Do you know what would be even more
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  like gorilla marketing is given that Amazon Prime owned Stargate, it's make Amazon great
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  again? Great? But then the A B this is the point of origin,
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  Yes, because that would even look more like America. Yeah, Bezos
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  is just looking down from his tower. I just sees the hat and just
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  gives a slow nod and like or just a red dot just appears on their
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  forehead. Oh okay, we're dead. He's not making money from that.
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  Yeah. Get into Gate episode two hundred and fifty three to can startget SG
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  one the Gate teams. Here. My name is Mitch. Over to my
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  left Brendan. Good to be here, Mitch in front of Brendan. But
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  to my right is Maddie. I'm just trying to paint a visual to the
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  picture. He tried not to look directly at Brandon at the hat. I
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  won't wear it the whole episode, but it's just please do. I had
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  a dream about wearing it, which is weird. And then someone was like,
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  you know, like you know, there's like a maga han on.
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  Yeah that's the joke. But yeah, I don't know. He needs needs
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  When you think you've got a hot cousin and then you you're like, that
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  shouldn't have Yeah, like the memories of my cousin wasn't even hot. My
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  cousins are Tasmanian, so that makes sense. Yeah, they didn't see anything
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  wrong with her. Yeah, nothing wrong for one of his. It needs
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  it needs the point of origin on the back, and then we can wear
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  it backwards backwards. Yeah, nice origin, that would be nice. Oh
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  sorry, you can yours can? Mine can be the pyramid. Yours can
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  be the circle with the line under it. Yes, yeah, I thought
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  you meant the Illuminati one right. Episode fourteen of season ten of SG Won
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  the Shroud, when Daniel Jackson, Oh, Michael Shanks, they've done it
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  again, turns up as a prior asking SG one to aid him in a
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  plan that might very well be a rap. It's up to Colonel Jack O'Neill
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  and the team to not only save Jackson's life, but possibly end of the
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  war with the alri once and for all. Don't don't don't Indeed that opening
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  scene did that? Did that set look familiar to what I mean? I
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  watched this week's episode back to back with last week's episode of My What Village?
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  You might well, there's so many villages. I don't know us whatever
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  the cal I feel like even the writing gave us a little bit. There's
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  a there's a little there's a little in joke there. I reckond this is
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  what I picked up. But we've seen a number of villages just like this
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  one wipe down number of villains just like just like this, just like it,
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  just like it. Wow, even even Cooper shitting on it now too.
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  It was it. We we talked about this scene because it was yet
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  again we're in the same village that we really weren't much we could do to
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  change it up, but you know, budget wise, and so we we
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  made a conscious decision to not shoot wide shots. Not really we could tell
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  play the village for the village, but rather just as a sort of background
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  texture and make it more about the you know, the faces and the people,
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  which I didn't really do. And it was well the temptation, but
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  yeah, he used mostly you know, long lensy kind of stuff, was
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  full of full of people and not really focused on the on the on the
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  set, and I thought it was sort of a stroke of genius to change
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  the color of the daylight to Yeah, it seems though it was a different
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  place, you know what. I really when I drive my past my house
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  during the day, I recognize it, and then when I drive past it
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  at dusk, I'm like, whose house is that? It's like ULARU they
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  reckon it changes colors like you wouldn't need. Yeah, obviously it was a
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  red one this morning. No, it's purple because the sun. Now I
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  want the red one. Let's keep driving until we reached the regular I don't
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  want the purple one. That's too much like an LGBT color. So I
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  came into I wasn't focusing on the credits until it said teleplay by Robert C.
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  Cooper Did he did? He was story about Brad him and Brad.
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  Yeah, well co co we we talked about this, this this basic concept
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  of Daniel becoming a prior was was Brad's idea. That's the story. He's
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  co story by credit. This way before the beginning of the season, we
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  were when we were just sort of talking about the arc, Brad was Brad
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  said, hey, why we should really make make someone a prior at some
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  point, we should really make Daniel and it was it was actually going to
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  be a longer, a bit of a longer, a longer arc. But
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  he's really selling it. The fact is that that the back half of of
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  of the season really kind of got condensed. When I wrote this episode,
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  I still didn't know that that this this would be one of the last episodes
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  of this of the series. But but why not, you know, we
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  just felt that, yeah, someone's been all the budget we need to get
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  We needed to get going, We needed to get going on the story.
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  And season and a half we didn't even go which episode could have easily been
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  a two parter, but should Michael, Michael would not have been happy wearing
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  that for two parts. Yeah, Michael's Michael's the reason you didn't write that
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  does too much? Michael of the Thespian, I mean, just listen to
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  me. Yeah, just listen to the lack of passion when it's not him
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  directing the episode or talking about an episode that he came up with the ideas
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  for, Like he wrote the you know, the teleplay, but it was
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  story. I came up with the idea. But that's why you got a
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  cold. So any way, when I wrote the scripts, which really is
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  where all the ideas take life, I mean, any guy can come up
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  with a plan, I was hold like that was a minute twenty one.
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  He felt like minutes like he just doesn't give a ship and it's just like
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  you go back to like Satita or something where he's like, I'm basically standing
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  like I don't know. People were just thinking it was amazing. Feel this
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  is the best part. I'm gonna play a little bit here. Now imagine
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  this played back to back. Yeah, with anything from Satita, well,
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  I generally expect mediocrity, So so anytime I get anything more than that,
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  it was a wonderful pleasant Yeah. I'm from myself as well. I have
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  you know, I set the barlow and and generally failed to achieve. I'm
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  very humble, except when you compare it to Apocalypse Now. Yeah, Yeah,
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  Stanley Kubrick, he sacrificed one of his senses for the for the art.
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  Yeah, he's an artist. Yeah. I said the bar pretty low
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  so that when people go Setina was amazing. He's like, yeah, but
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  I mean that's that's you know, that's with that first amendment. Oh,
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  that was the low bar that you said. Great, great, great.
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  Last week I was saying that the Richard kind obviously was was pre credits,
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  but then during it spoiled the Collier revealed that Robert Darby was in it.
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  This I didn't read the credits at all, and so when Jack is just
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  sitting there next to laundry, I was like, yeah, that one's the
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  most obvious credit. I avoid reading credits. Well, but that one's like
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  Richard Dean and as well. Yeah, as we've learned through just even this
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  podcast, with this show is trying not to because it's going totten. Not
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  that every episode's got cameos or anything, but last week I think of I
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  think of season six when Daniel wasn't there to send it. Daniel showed up
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  and they spoiled it in the opening. Yeah. Yeah, and I think
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  last week had I have went, oh, Richard Kines back, Okay,
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  well he's going to be the only interesting a secondary in a what am I
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  saying? Guest on the on the show and then Robert Derby pops up as
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  an and god damn it. Whereas this one, Yeah, like it would
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  have been very obvious because we didn't know to expect anything prior to that happening.
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  But thank god I was not looking at the screen or just not reading
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  the credits, depending what was going on. Sometimes it helps. Yeah,
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  mate, I'm trying to do the right thing by the bloody show, so
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  I can actually watch the episode as Robert C. Cooper intended and get the
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  surprises that he wrote for me. How annoying was doctor Weir in this episode?
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  Yeah, disrespect. If you want to save time, I can just
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  get out as a SoundBite and you just point to me anyhow ridiculous, ridiculous?
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  And here I was. I bought all these tuber gifts for you from
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  the from the audio commentary, how dare you he did this for you?
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  Yeah? I sat through a rob at Cooper commentary. Yeah, I mean
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  I didn't ask you to, but I appreciate that last one. But that
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  was also the long one. There was a minute twenty Yeah, and that's
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  there's a forty two minute episode. You said through forty there's another one minute,
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  twenty autiograph. Remember a couple of weeks ago when I apologized ringing like
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  twenty pieces of the audio and I said I'd never number eighteen. Yeah,
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  Remember I said I'd never do that again. I by the time I finished
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  watching this episode the first time, I had four pieces of audio. I
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  wait, fantastic. Then I turned over the auto commentary was Cooper, and
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  now I've got twelve pieces of audio. I we appreciate it. We do.
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  Yeah, I appreciate it. Now we'll talk about Weir next week.
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  Yes, big time. I The question I had written down here specifically for
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  Brendan is obviously about your favorite character, Andrea. There's the moment where Daniel
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  and Adrea kiss and he gets turned into a prior. Do you reckon they?
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  I don't know why she would have turned him into a privy then him,
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  because I was like, oh, they've they've definitely if they're cut away
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  here when they're kissing, they've definitely banged. But then she turned into a
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  prior. I'm like, what do you want to bang an old? Do
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  you reckon maybe your daddy issues? I'm not going to Dick as well,
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  like the weird the weird thing ribbed for her pleasure. His pubes would have
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  been white like his eyelashes. Oh no, Daniel probably waxes like just from
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  like the neck down, Dan does I reckon he's hairless. I reckon,
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  Daniel's just hairless. We've seen him, especially Shanksy's. Do they add like
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  a second eyelid because he's like right right, like a brown. So what
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  I'm saying is if he circumcised, is when he becomes a like you know,
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  he gets rehooded. When Merlin leaves, he gets free. Yeah.
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  Back to however he was yeah, yeah, So apparently Shanksy, much like
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  Andrea Shanksy, had issues with the prior contacts. So while he was in
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  the chair on the on the Odyssey and they were kind of shooting down where
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  you couldn't quite they were intentionally doing it so he didn't have to wear the
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  contacts all the time, and they were kind of shooting like the light was
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  coming down from the top that's where he's frowning so much, Yeah, to
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  create the shadow over his eyes, So he didn't have to wear the contacts
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  in that. If that was a prosthetic Yeah, it kind of looked almost
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  like a caveman brower kind of thing. Yeah. I just think making the
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  eyelashes white was a mistake, especially when you're gonna shine that much light on
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  it. The eyelashes to me just looked like chalky and crusty and and not
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  good. Yeah, he got to kip his hair though it did remind me
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  of Michello when he was jumped into Merlin for a second. But yeah,
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  that was I just didn't understand why, well he didn't wils I'm saying,
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  I reckon. Surely, surely Andrew has just been another priors just for like,
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  what else has she got to do? Where is she a virgin?
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  Well, I mean, if you're gonna lose your video to anybody, it's
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  gonna be Michael Shanks, right, And then he's got the set, he's
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  got the mother and daughter. He's gone for Missus Robinson. That's what I
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  was wondering if when they cut back to Daniel telling the story, was like
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  going to be offended and is it one of those like fight Club unreliable narrator
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  things where Daniel tells the story that they just kissed, but he was peging
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  it up because Varla was in the room and they actually kissed me. YadA
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  YadA, YadA YadA. There was a big flashing white lights and I was
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  the prior. She's only four months old. It's sick. No matter what
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  planet system you're in, there is and I'll get it. That's one for
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  this. That's fine. But the premise in like the first episode of Star
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  Trek Voyage is you meet two aliens and one of them she's a fully grown
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  woman. She's like being played like a nineteen year old girl. She's dating
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  this other alien who looks like Pumba from Timoon and Pumba, but her race
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  only lives to nine years old. So she's a fully grown woman, but
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  her character is only one and a half years old and she an alien,
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  And I'm like, why would you put that in a television program? It
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  is weird. It's weird. I mean, go watch she was one.
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  Yes, Neelix looks like, yeah, who did you say Pumba Pumba?
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  He was just with alf no mix mixed with timone. So yeah, the
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  actual art director went, I'm going to create an alien that looks like Timoona
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  Pumba had sex, and that's how they made Neelings I mean they're in a
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  lust of paradise in the middle of the desert with nothing around. Jim and
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  were absolutely giving each other bro jobs. Absolutely. You heard the sound effect.
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  It means no worries. Yeah, I mean you saw the way Timon
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  stuck down that slug. He's got skills. Timon has skills. And why
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  do you think Simber hung around with him for so long? He was getting
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  broad jobs too. Sexual awakening was in his lipstick painted. He was like
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  full by dancing across that log. Yeah, what do you think the log
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  was a metaphor for it's clearly phallic big time, and he didn't want to
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  go back with those women that even even when even when Nahla gave him the
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  sex eyes, he was like, well, you know, I've got a
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  real good thing. Yeah, we PlayStation and blow. That's what we do.
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  And what do you think Tom also was like Timorrow had a song.
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  I can see what's happening here. Our threesomes down to two. You know,
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  you know what? He wasn't happy played by the wonderful Nathan Lane.
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  He's halfway there and you know what I mean the gate I've never thought about
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  the idea of Timon former and Simba being a mad mentor but now doing some
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  weird ship with bugs. Wentever to stop and go watch The Lion King and
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  not think about that. Yeah, you're going to make Lion King great again.
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  Actually, go and watch the live action one and see the grotesque pumba
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  that Seth Brogan was imagine that. Yeah, you know, who knows what's
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  gonna happen in the prequel. The Faster prequel is coming out later this year.
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  It was a post for that the other day. Maybe James L.
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  Jones. I hoped it was a April Fools joke, but apparently, Yeah,
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  I didn't really, I didn't watch the remake. Why would you the
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  live action? Oh you're just racist, am I? That is that racist?
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  Yeah, because they had to cast all black people in that film because
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  they're African lions so obviously have to be voiced by except for yes, went
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  from Roan Atkinson to John Oliver, which is excellent casting, mind you.
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  Oh yeah, but that's because that bird's not and I don't believe it's a
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  native African bird. It was. Yeah, that was That was the whole
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  point. That's that's the thing. Because you didn't Beyonce. You voiced like
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  Sarabi or something, isn't she? No, she was Narla. Oh but
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  actually now, I mean the trailer came out over a week ago and I
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  just still have got around Beyonce's back voicing a character in this, and so
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  was her daughter. Oh okay, I'm like really, I like the Wiz
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  Was that good? What else is coming out? You like those three singers
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  in Little Shop of Horrors? Yeah, as he wears his Margat knockoff hat.
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  Yeah, yeah, I'm not I'm not racist. My father's dead.
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  Hey. Do you think this episode would have been wrapped up really really quick
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  if they just got Breaktack in? Because break Tack can tell when people are
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  lying. He can look into their eyes well and look into their heart.
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  Why didn't they just bring break Tack in? Here? Go? Yeah,
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  Dange's telling the truth. Well yeah, and that's what Jack said. Oh
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  oh no, sorry, Carter said, we don't have a polygraph, and
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  he has something that'll be better. And I was like, zaytak. Oh,
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  I was gonna say break tak, Yeah, you pronounce it, and
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  then then they will tilkin. Oh. Yeah, I guess I noticed a
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  subtle I guess at this point it's a pattern prior Daniel shows up, he's
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  locked up in the odyssey. He has one on one scene with Jack.
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  Yeah, he has one on one scene with Tilk. He has a one
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  on one scene with Vala, who's his other best friend he's known the longest
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  time, that he ignored while he was ascended. Yes, I was thinking
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  this and didn't that same person just didn't bother to go and have one on
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  one with him? Yeah, Sam, And she was, wasn't she kind
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  of the one who's saying, we don't need we can't trust him, or
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  I don't think so. There was something about there's something about the briefing when
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  she was just like against Daniel, we can't trust him with something because it
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  was like certain thing that you said about him being ascended and didn't bother to
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  contact her. She's well, yeah, I'm back, or yeah, you
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  didn't bother to see me. You didn't come and see me while you were
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  ascended. He's a white male pig, that's what he is. Or yeah,
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  let women come pig. He looked like it was a compig with the
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  stuff on his face. Well yeah, Marina background maybe Yeah, I feel
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  like they maybe their sex was more like avatar, like you know, like
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  where they just put tales together. It was all more about how they felt,
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  you know, in the moment, whereas there's she just like spewed white
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  lights all over him and that was like from from her face hugger. Yeah,
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  well you downstairs face hugger. That what did I call the other day?
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  The the meat car wash? We've lost Maddy, I can I can
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  never go to a car wash again or watch Lady Gaga on the Red Carpet.
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  Oh wowses. But yeah, I was hoping back to Daniel. Mm
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  hmmm. Yeah. I was just that kind of backstory of Daniel and Marina
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  background was what I was saying a few weeks ago, is what should have
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  happened, and Barla should have stayed there too, and trying to convince her
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  they did another way through Merlin and that. But yeah, I feel like
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  I wanted to see that kind of through lineesome with the moment, yeah,
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  orry big time. Yeah, stepmom, stepmom? Yeah, stepdad comes in
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  you know limp, no, Dick, Well, that'd have to be one
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  of the priors, would have to be the stepdad, I suppose depends on
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  what I was thinking. I was thinking of, like you know, oh
• 24:00
  oh yeah, I guess he part. That's the older Cooke Zero. They're
• 24:06
  great people. I thought, see, I thought you'd be the kind of
• 24:08
  guy where you'd want to see like Vala, Andria and Daniel. You want
• 24:14
  to you want to see a two chicks and a dude. I didn't.
• 24:15
  I didn't. I didn't. I didn't pick you for the kind of guy
• 24:18
  who'd be looking the other way for like a like an Eiffel Tower situation.
• 24:22
  I just think it would be nice, all four of them, Okay,
• 24:26
  and then big Daddy Beefcake Tilt comes in prepared. What about what about that
• 24:32
  main prior, you know, the prior from like from like Avalon, you
• 24:36
  know, the one that keeps the keep, the one that keeps rocking up.
• 24:37
  He used to be he used to be like the town the town governor
• 24:41
  guy, and then he became a prior. He's popping up a few times.
• 24:44
  Yeah, get him in there, like not you him him, just
• 24:48
  like reciting origin passages in the he's in the chair, he's in the cup
• 24:52
  chair in the corner. Obviously. Yeah, try to ignore him. Hollowed
• 24:57
  out is area. Trying to ignore him. It's his room, but it's
• 25:04
  got they're on the bridge he's trying to pilot the ship and they're all on
• 25:10
  the bridge. He's got the softer sheets. He doesn't want to see it.
• 25:14
  I don't want to see it. This is my this is my favorite
• 25:15
  religion. And like the Oris, I is like gang banging with the people.
• 25:21
  I can't. She's just like focusing out. She's a human double stuff
• 25:26
  Oreo right now about Yeah, I thought it was weird that Varla said to
• 25:34
  everyone like that she she thinks she's the only one that knows just how dangerous
• 25:40
  and powerful Adrea is. But Shanksy's like Daniel's been with Adrea cumultively now,
• 25:48
  way longer, and like most of the time that Varla spent with Adria,
• 25:53
  she was like a petulant child, Like she was literally like a newborn child.
• 25:57
  Is it like is it a woman thing? Like yeah, it was.
• 26:03
  It was a familial thing. You've gone, Brendan, like, you
• 26:06
  know, maybe especially because your your daughter is the oldest. But I'm just
• 26:10
  like my wife looks at my daughter and she's not even three yet and just
• 26:14
  looks like it goes, oh, she's going to be a little bit,
• 26:15
  you know, like she's sort of like she can see trait she's doing now
• 26:18
  and what that's going to mean when she's eight, what's going to mean like
• 26:21
  when she's thirteen? Yeah, but I mean, you know your children were
• 26:25
  were created traditionally Varla was impregnated by a fire. You think God had something
• 26:30
  to do it? Well, one of you were screaming at the time,
• 26:34
  not Sarah obviously she was obviously not hasn't in like years. I just yeah,
• 26:41
  I think I guess since Brendon walked in and filmed this and that is
• 26:45
  a true story, we quickly deleted it. Well together watched it and then
• 26:56
  we deleted it. Yeah, you see there jagged off justack which Sarah'd get
• 27:00
  out of the way. Yeah, I was. I was proud of Midge
• 27:04
  that trip longevity I did. I should go back. It's taking a turn
• 27:12
  A lot of effort though, isn't it. It is? You know,
• 27:15
  And in the end, I don't want to do ad workouts every day Jesus.
• 27:18
  And at the time I will never get on top again, obviously only
• 27:23
  morally. Morally, yes, argument they have the high ground in the bedroom,
• 27:30
  they never want the high ground. I liked it how Daniel came in
• 27:36
  as the prior and was like, really good at it. Oh yeah,
• 27:40
  because he's like didn't grow up indoctrinated in that, so it's like b us
• 27:44
  or die. But he was like this, this stuff is going to get
• 27:48
  him across the line and the right in facets and a little miracle here and
• 27:52
  there. It was. It was a clumsy introduction though, like you know,
• 27:56
  we could tell it was Daniel from his voice. Yeah, but then
• 27:59
  they waited other thirty seconds to do could reveal And even in the commentary,
• 28:03
  Cooper talks about how he kind of stuffed up because it's like they gave they
• 28:07
  gave Daniel the staff, they gave him a book to read Origin from,
• 28:11
  but then he had to like clumsily like put his book into the other hand
• 28:15
  so that they could pull his hood off. And he just said, it
• 28:18
  just didn't look the way it should have. I like the back I like
• 28:22
  the backshot where they're tracking and he's with the with the over the shoulder stuff.
• 28:29
  But then they yeah, they like, you're right, they should have
• 28:30
  cut to SG one hiding and then just hearing muffles, Yeah, can you
• 28:37
  hear Shanksy's voice? Yeah, you know, immediately Yeah, and this is
• 28:41
  this is always difficult, you know, you know, in the script.
• 28:45
  It's very easy to create a dramatic reveal, but as soon as you see
• 28:52
  you know this character, you're going to know it's so how do you exactly?
• 28:56
  I mean, you can tell his voice, I mean, how many
• 28:59
  speaks do you know that it sounds the other guy I wanted? Who was
• 29:03
  that? I think that's either Will Wearing or like Peter West or something like
• 29:07
  that. You can just tell that he was keen to say it the whole
• 29:11
  Oh yeah, Terry, except oh you had to wait for his boss to
• 29:12
  say it first and then smash it yeah, followed by followed by this little
• 29:18
  gim This might be your favorite. In many cases, I'll be I'll be
• 29:22
  on the floor and directing a scene, and I think be frustrated with myself
• 29:26
  as the writer, and and and you know, you put a different hat
• 29:30
  on and and and you just wish that you had written a better scene or
• 29:34
  or figured out a better way that the story point could have been on,
• 29:38
  you know, conveyed and crush must have burnt coming out of his mouth.
• 29:42
  Every director of Stargate SG one for the last nine years has said the exact
• 29:47
  same thing. They've looked at a script from Robert Cooper and gone, I
• 29:49
  wish this was better. I wonder what I can do to make this actually
• 29:53
  watchable. And it's like him again, it's easy. It's easy to write
• 29:56
  a dramatic reveal, like it just didn't look the way that I guess it
• 30:00
  was supposed to. But I'm thinking that you're writing, you're writing a script
• 30:03
  like it's designed to be seen, because it's like you're writing a book.
• 30:07
  Yeah, and like books, I remember a big thing, like the first
• 30:11
  one I ever really heard people explain. I mean we're talking nearly twenty years
• 30:14
  ago, but like when the Da Vinci Code came out and the reveal of
• 30:18
  who, like the puppet Master is behind that film is revealed quite late,
• 30:22
  Like in the final act of the final act, you get to reveal who
• 30:26
  who's been pulling the strings the whole time. That character appears, but only
• 30:30
  like as a shadow and as a hand wearing a glove and stuff throughout.
• 30:33
  Whereas they said, you know in the book that person's talking all the time.
• 30:37
  Yeah, you can just say a man emerges, it says, he
• 30:40
  says all this souf if you could even describe kind of what he looks like,
• 30:41
  and if you don't describe if that person is otherwise you know, a
• 30:45
  you know, sleep agent or something you know in the in the other half
• 30:48
  of the book, and you can get away with that. Was when you're
• 30:51
  writing a script, don't have him say that much shit and then go and
• 30:53
  watch the final product and go, well, see it doesn't make sense now
• 30:56
  because you can hear it's Daniel, you wrote it. You wrote it.
• 31:00
  The other thing is like, when you're writing a script, you're supposed to
• 31:03
  be visualizing, you're seeing on the screen. You're not just meant to be,
• 31:07
  Oh, this is a cool story idea. Especially he says this,
• 31:10
  the person says, your first idea is going to be, Oh, it
• 31:12
  could be this awesome thing, and you're like, how can we mate?
• 31:15
  How is it going to be physically possible? Yeah, to get the camera
• 31:18
  like that c g I all the time, right, But like the scripts
• 31:22
  that get handed into a studio or producer, they read words on a paper
• 31:27
  and go that looks expensive. Yeah it's paper, and they go, we
• 31:30
  can't film that, you know, like, because you're writing what you want
• 31:33
  to see and here and then he can come and given the Cooper now is
• 31:37
  also a prolific director, prolific many times he's what did he say? Many
• 31:42
  times he's been on set as director? Was it to have you though?
• 31:48
  Is it too? I think it's too I think it might be too.
• 31:49
  But also he's also Woody Allen level your director. Does he think if he
• 31:56
  comes in and go if it was Blaura and they go like, does he
• 32:00
  consider himself like a co director? If he suggests he wears many hats to
• 32:06
  cover his ball spot? Obviously, but you can as a writer and executive
• 32:09
  producer about me, you can going you could be going into set and going
• 32:16
  talking to the director and go down to the set. Sorry down, Hooper
• 32:20
  always says, he goes down to the he goes down to the floor.
• 32:22
  He goes down on the floor. You can be down with all the peasants
• 32:25
  and still suggest like give commands or you know how in scripts it has like
• 32:30
  stage direction, and says, you know, he could have just written it
• 32:36
  because he's the boss, and then everyone else just has to make whatever ship
• 32:40
  he scribbles on pages and his hands out. Yeah, so whatever he puts
• 32:45
  on the page is what gets made. But like he's an executive producer,
• 32:49
  so he doesn't care about finance. Obviously, no wants to spend how much
• 32:55
  money he wants, especially if he's directing it. Yeah, I don't care
• 32:59
  if the show gets care so we're going to spend the money. Yeah,
• 33:01
  boo boo. Week you mentioned you mentioned the Cooper's favorite opening, the way
• 33:10
  he loves to, you know, list all his positions that he does.
• 33:15
  But enough about me. He changed it up this time. I guess.
• 33:17
  I guess since you know, since he recorded. He recorded this audio commentary
• 33:22
  after the show was canceled, so he's a little down. He's a little
• 33:27
  down, but he still decided he was going to open with a joke.
• 33:30
  Yeah. We just recorded on Thursday, Brad's first ever commentary, and he
• 33:37
  asked me how I thought it went. I said it was easily in the
• 33:40
  top two hundred commentaries, which is not very good because we didn't do commentaries
• 33:47
  for the first three seasons. Yeah, good point. Yeah, pity love
• 33:53
  Ady m Keita. I believe that is too the other voice because Amie Ketter
• 33:57
  directed this episode. Yes, poor Andy bloody Cooper. Oh, I'm freaking
• 34:06
  Woolsey too, son of a bitch. Just when you start to maybe like
• 34:10
  him, he's like, let's kill Daniel Jackson and you're like, mate,
• 34:15
  I if I was like Tilk, I probably would have tried to strangle him.
• 34:20
  Yeah, you know what I mean. Well, I mean Daniel did
• 34:22
  he strangler lifted him up. Apparently originally was and this is the way Cooper
• 34:27
  wrote it. Originally he somehow used his prior powers to make Woolsey wet himself
• 34:34
  was originally hard powers, right, Yeah, turns water into peach with the
• 34:39
  orgasmotron. Yeah, the pri version of the brown note. It's like the
• 34:44
  brown note, but it's the yellow note. And they all everyone kind of
• 34:47
  went, yeah, no, let's maybe we'll just strangle him instead. Just
• 34:51
  we'll do a y gag and we'll lift him up and he can be choked,
• 34:53
  because that obviously makes way more sense than making more Jack. I love
• 35:00
  this show so much, and I love Richard dan Anderson. He's so good
• 35:02
  in this. Yeah, he just comes in and just steals the show.
• 35:07
  Let's just take this one thing straight. You killed Daniel over my dead body,
• 35:13
  and it's like, dude, that just that all of his power.
• 35:17
  But then also Jack, like through the whole episode, Jack doesn't really believe
• 35:22
  Daniel either. He's like but that's he's like, I want to I want
• 35:24
  to believe you, you know, but at the end of the day,
• 35:28
  he's like, that's Daniel, and I think even is it sam or Mitchell
• 35:30
  says that at the start of the episode, they're like, it could be
• 35:34
  a trap, but it's Daniel. We have to go like we have to.
• 35:37
  So yeah, Jack's the same thing. He's like, well, you're
• 35:38
  not going to kill him, full stop. He's you just you're not.
• 35:43
  I don't care if you sent that in an email or a memo to the
• 35:46
  president, I don't care. Yeah, exactly. You literally have to kill
• 35:51
  me. Yeah, You're gonna have to kill me. Yeah. No,
• 35:55
  I love that so much because, like you said, you just like him.
• 36:00
  And I found myself thinking about it because I am watching Atlantis for the
• 36:02
  first time. So when I first watched this episode, I would just been
• 36:06
  like, can Wolsey's back? You pricky get You're worse every time, Whereas
• 36:09
  now it's like, no, you took so many steps back in our direction,
• 36:14
  yeah, back upwards after that double episode in Atlantis, and now you're
• 36:17
  back to being like, nah, I'm pushing pencils and sorry. It would
• 36:22
  have been a different story if he had have come out like laundry, says
• 36:27
  I don't even have I don't you have to tell them because this is bullshit.
• 36:30
  And he actually comes out and says, I take full responsibility. It
• 36:35
  was my recommendation. And then you're like, easily he could have said it
• 36:39
  wasn't it was up to the IOWA commedian it to me, but he like
• 36:44
  that makes it worse. Well, that was the bit that I liked because
• 36:46
  it was a callback to proto type with Klik and yeah, Woolsey, you
• 36:52
  know, felt guilty because you remember the flip side of that is in Prototype,
• 36:55
  Daniel was the one saying, you have to kill this motherfucker straight away.
• 36:59
  You have to kill Kaylick immediately. He's the son of an ubus killing
• 37:01
  immediately, and everyone else is going, calm down, Daniel, it's not
• 37:05
  that bad, and then those you know, the nameless face so guys got
• 37:08
  killed, and Daniel basically said to Wolzy, that's on you, mate,
• 37:13
  like, and then Daniel mentions that in the following scene as well, Yeah,
• 37:17
  yeah, I think the only thing that would have been better is if,
• 37:19
  like prior, Daniel had called him dick as well. You know,
• 37:22
  that would be great. But yes, I did like that little bit of
• 37:28
  yeah, yeah, I liked that because yet it was just a little bit
• 37:30
  of like it made me understand why Wolsey would go that to that atomic level
• 37:37
  of saying, given that Carter is the first one that says, well,
• 37:43
  why don't we just put him in in the pod and will freeze him until
• 37:45
  we figure out it's either her or Jack or something like that, Because that
• 37:49
  makes the most amount of sense. So the fact that that Woolsey went to
• 37:52
  that atomic level, I bought it because of the whole Kalic prototype thing.
• 37:57
  It didn't make me like Wolzy anymore. He's still just a disgusting little human
• 38:00
  being. Yeah, But I but I understand the same way. It's like
• 38:05
  I understood Kinsey and why he was such a piece of shit. I understand
• 38:09
  Wolsey. So that makes Wolsey a really really good villain to me. He's
• 38:13
  a great villain. Like I don't like him, but I understand why I
• 38:16
  don't like him, because that actor I love, you know, he's he's
• 38:22
  one of my favorite people of all time. You know. But it's different
• 38:23
  too because those other guys that came in they were never good. Were Woolsey.
• 38:30
  He has some good points, yeah, and he comes in and you're
• 38:31
  like, I like him now I don't. Now I like him now I
• 38:35
  don't. Yeah, So it's very annoying. I just don't think they knew
• 38:38
  where they wanted to take Woolsey or some of the writers forgot where they took
• 38:43
  well, yes, eik, yeah that could be possibility to given that he
• 38:45
  split over two shows. Yeah, maybe when you know Cooper was writing this,
• 38:50
  Joe I think was Joe and Paul were doing the Return, so maybe
• 38:53
  you know they didn't know, like there was no communication between them. So
• 38:58
  it's like, yeah, because Wolsey in Atlantis in the Return is great,
• 39:02
  but then you come back to this version of Wolsey and like even Rob Pocado
• 39:07
  did play it really well where he kind of you could tell he didn't feel
• 39:13
  good about it, but he still recommended execution, you know what I mean,
• 39:16
  like directly to the president. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I
• 39:20
  know what you mean in terms of I did like that about his character,
• 39:23
  like literally facing the music. Yeah, to the people that would like die
• 39:29
  for Daniel and they probably kill you for saying that. Yeah. Yeah.
• 39:32
  And I feel like season season seven, Woolsey back when we first met him,
• 39:36
  like in Heroes, Yeah, he would have been the kind of guy
• 39:38
  to just give Landry the information to go off. You go, I've got
• 39:42
  to go TELLU SG one now. But I think because the writing and production
• 39:45
  love Pacado so much, they're like they've written so I was like, well,
• 39:49
  no, now he's going to come forward and he's going to give the
• 39:51
  information direct to SG one, knowing that they're all going to be like,
• 39:54
  get all the way, it's never gonna happen. Yeah, it does remind
• 39:59
  me of that old school SGU one where they're always told no, you can't
• 40:02
  do it, and then they go rogue. You know, they're just up
• 40:05
  in black and do sneak out through the wormhole. And it reminded me of
• 40:09
  that when they did that in SG one. At the end of season one,
• 40:14
  they land going on Ubers's ship. They're sneaking around the ship, and
• 40:16
  then they have two main villains starting with A and And the thing is like
• 40:25
  in this episode as well, they go they go on the our ship,
• 40:30
  they ring to the ship, they're trying to sneak around, and they immediately
• 40:35
  get into a firefight with the soldiers. Yeah, but I feel like in
• 40:37
  the SG one when we were sneaking around back in the day, you'd hear
• 40:42
  those your fasts stomping the way and you just hide in the bulkhead. Yeah.
• 40:46
  Plus you had til going, well, I know the ins and outs
• 40:49
  of these things, so here's a little secret compartment that we can go and
• 40:52
  hide it. Yeah, whereas they ring into this and they're like, what
• 40:54
  do we do? Yeah? Yeah that way? Yeah, I just there
• 40:59
  was there's nice little lines between those episodes. Yeah, I do have some
• 41:05
  of the Jack Daniel gold if you guys want to. Absolutely, it's a
• 41:08
  little bit long, but we can. We can cut bits and pass and
• 41:10
  just when does your chariot turn back into a pumpkin? No, I don't
• 41:15
  have much time. They're so a day. Kind of risky leaving it this
• 41:19
  late in the game. Well, I didn't have much choice, and it
• 41:21
  took you guys a little long to capture me than I planned. So right,
• 41:28
  why do we have to do that again? Well, I couldn't exactly
• 41:30
  just come to you. I think Andrew might have suspected something. Yes,
• 41:32
  I see, Jack, you have to believe me. Why why Well,
• 41:38
  because I don't know the fate of the galaxy hangs in the balance. You
• 41:43
  know that old chestnuts get a little old no, No, that part never
• 41:49
  gets old. Now you have to shut down that super gate, and you
• 41:51
  have to let me go. You know how much I hate being told what
• 41:53
  to do. Jacket me what that's supposed to convince me? Look at you?
• 41:58
  Have I ever let you down? No, don't answer that it really
• 42:00
  mattered. I don't even know who I'm really talking to right now. When
• 42:05
  you're being tortured by ball, killed, brought back to life over and over
• 42:07
  again, I stood buy you the whole toll right, Just stop. I
• 42:10
  don't need to be reminded of that. Been around this barbecue a few times.
• 42:16
  Just because you know the stuff Daniel knows doesn't mean you're him, doesn't
• 42:20
  mean you're telling the truth. I mean, come on, you've got to
• 42:22
  know what you're asking me to do. I do you know there's a bottom
• 42:28
  line here? Carter doesn't think you do it? Can A Mark nine beam
• 42:31
  directly behind the gate in the pegasas skalaxy will destroy that gate. The wormhole
• 42:35
  connection will be broken. How do you know that? Hello, Merlin?
• 42:39
  Oh yes, Merlin. I wish I had proof. I wish I had
• 42:43
  a way to convince you, but I don't. Now this was the only
• 42:45
  choice I had and I took it. It's a good plan. It just
• 42:50
  happens to hinge on you guys believing in me having a little faith. Now,
• 42:52
  I thought you, of all people might why you, of all people
• 42:57
  should know that I don't believe anything anybody says, even if I understand what
• 43:00
  they're talking about. Jack, it's me that look that he gave to when
• 43:07
  he when he yelled like we were talking about it, and he's like,
• 43:08
  hang on, what did I say? What I just said? That's the
• 43:14
  best you got if you went to Cooper with that, that's the best thing
• 43:19
  thing to come up with. That's the best we can do. Yeah,
• 43:20
  scenes like that where it's just trading off these two guys that have been doing
• 43:22
  the same show and working opposite each other and having so many great scenes along
• 43:27
  the years where they're arguing about philosophies and things like that and just different ideologies
• 43:31
  whatever. And then you've got Michael Shank sitting there and all that makeup and
• 43:36
  he's sitting in a chair under that light. Well yeah, you know there
• 43:38
  was there's RDA and I'm thinking, yeah, this is you know this if
• 43:44
  Shank's left because he wanted to go do some ship this is probably He's like,
• 43:46
  make it elevator a little bit, put me in some weird makeup.
• 43:49
  He put me in like this giant chair and this weird costume makeup, and
• 43:52
  not too much, make no context, obviously, do whatever you want to
• 43:57
  my you know, extra did Hamlet wear contexts? I don't think so.
• 44:00
  I will play a woman though, and and just have them sort of sit
• 44:04
  there and just yell at each other. And I'm like, this is such
• 44:07
  a great scene again, when you're bringing a guy back that's only in at
• 44:10
  every I don't know what ten episodes on average, maybe like between and you
• 44:15
  hear that. No, I'm just even listening to that without the ability to
• 44:19
  watch it. I'm thinking about the fact that Richard Dean Anderson is off,
• 44:22
  you know, just in John his life and having fun with his kids and
• 44:24
  stuff. And then he's like I kind of miss just blame the guys gets
• 44:30
  to come back in and it's like, this is what we've got you to
• 44:31
  do, and he's like, shit, this is like the good old days.
• 44:35
  So yeah, Jack. Unfortunately though, and I don't think this is
• 44:39
  really a split's This is the final appearance of Richard Anderson and Woolsey in SG
• 44:45
  one in the TV series, I guess, you know, there's only like
• 44:50
  six episodes left to go, but this is Yeah, this is the final
• 44:53
  appearance of both Woolsey and O'Neill. It's kind of weird having only six episodes
• 44:58
  to go. I think it's not like the sixth podcasts to the end of
• 45:01
  SG one for us. Yeah, it's come up quicker than I thought it
• 45:06
  would. Yeah. Yeah, in a couple of months we'll have will have
• 45:08
  finished SG one. It's wild. Yeah, it's wild to think, I
• 45:13
  guess because we're yeah, because we're still you know, splitting it between Atlantis.
• 45:17
  Just think by by what maybe July this year, we'll just be doing
• 45:22
  Atlantis episodes. Well, that's kind of weird. July anniversary of the podcast,
• 45:27
  and it's like we might actually get very open done the math have and
• 45:30
  looked at the calendar, but we might actually get very close to when we
• 45:31
  started the podcast. Yeah, in July, and then it tick over and
• 45:35
  that'll be it for SG one. It's kind of weird, are we It's
• 45:37
  probably a conversation we can have off Mike, but obviously we'll do our season
• 45:40
  ten rank are we again? Gonna then as part of the episode, do
• 45:45
  like a series rap on st you one or will we do those like a
• 45:47
  separate podcast as like a retrospective series rap kind of and then we can rank.
• 45:52
  Yeah yeah, I think so probably. I think we have yeah,
• 45:57
  yeah, oh, definitely do it. Yeah yeah, I think we have
• 46:00
  to do it like there's some kind of special wrap up. Yeahwe Mitchell,
• 46:07
  you you mentioned the chair before the chair that Daniel. Did you recognize that
• 46:10
  at all? Is it Dr Evil's chair? No? Has anyone in the
• 46:15
  room now about nom? Has anyone? No? Has anyone seen the John
• 46:22
  WU your mate ben Affleck film Paycheck? Oh? Yeah, apparently that's not
• 46:29
  all of it, but it's a sorry three star. They bought that chair
• 46:31
  from that production. That the prior chair that Daniel was in was in a
• 46:36
  John W. Ben Affleck movie called Paycheck, and they made some adjustments to
• 46:39
  it, but the actual main core of it is from that film. Apparently.
• 46:43
  Okay, I mean I feel like that would have been I don't remember
• 46:45
  that well, like, but was it more about the head piece? Right?
• 46:51
  Did he wear like a because if you know, then you know the
• 46:53
  idea is he makes things back backwards compatibility and then he gets his memory wiped.
• 47:00
  Yeah, but then he gets paid and he doesn't know what he did
• 47:01
  because it's like a secret. Yeah. So yeah, he would lay it
• 47:05
  in a chair, but all credits. Yeah, but it's like what did
• 47:08
  he make? Umimon? I can't remember. It was like I'm gogling,
• 47:13
  like two thousands and I would say, so this, I mean, this
• 47:16
  movie was this show was made? This episode really, this episode was made,
• 47:22
  so it had to be pre seven. Yes, yeah, I just
• 47:27
  thought it was a reuse of two thousand and three. It was Devil Year.
• 47:32
  Well I typed in paycheck ben Affleck and it just come up with what
• 47:36
  he was paid for that film. This was Ben Affleck's biggest paycheck today,
• 47:38
  earning him approximately fifteen million dollars. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I thought
• 47:44
  I thought the chair was just a reuse from Yeah, Kaylek can cast in
• 47:47
  that film, Ben Affleck, Uma, Thurmon, Aaron air Cut, Paul
• 47:51
  gmmarty, Michael Chol, Joe Morton, and Colm Fiel. I'll have to
• 47:54
  check it out. Speaking well, you gonna check it out. I don't
• 48:00
  believe you want to check it out. I'm going to Google right now and
• 48:04
  see where it's streaming. If you can find it where it is. I'll
• 48:07
  do it. I will speaking. I've got a great app. Just watch
• 48:08
  have you guys got that app? Just it's not as reliable. I don't
• 48:15
  know about that. No, it's not as reliable. I think I told
• 48:16
  you we did, and I'm so glad you did because it's it's it's very
• 48:21
  good TV. God, it's the digital TV. Gu It's got no affiliation
• 48:24
  with anything. Yeah, I didn't even know the app. You this one?
• 48:29
  Baby, Okay, we were just we were talking a couple of weeks
• 48:30
  ago about that the oh got their name's just fallen straight out of my head.
• 48:37
  The red Head. The movie we're talking about where like she's pregnant and
• 48:40
  like because the whole world's barren. Julian Moore, Yeah, children of Children
• 48:47
  of Men. I just went to see a movie called Children of Men.
• 48:52
  I don't know if you've seen it. You haven't yet now, but there
• 48:55
  was a sequence in a car that that as I'm watching it, I was,
• 49:00
  you know, utterly struck by the fact that I couldn't figure out where
• 49:06
  the camera was right And I knew that in this scene there had to be
• 49:08
  a camera somewhere, but it didn't make sense how how you're seeing this in
• 49:14
  the physical space of a real of the real world, and when I saw
• 49:17
  the rig that they built in order to get this sequence, It's just it's
• 49:24
  amazing to me that that, you know, the difference between working on a
• 49:29
  feature film and you know, and working in the world of television that we
• 49:31
  that we do. You know, I think they spent more on that rig
• 49:37
  than we do on an entire episode, unless it's a Tata Yeah, and
• 49:42
  then all bets are off. Look, Mattie, if you do want to
• 49:44
  watch Paycheck, ye oh god, currently not streaming anywhere. You have to
• 49:50
  hire it for five bucks on Amazon or YouTube. Absolutely. I haven't even
• 49:52
  done that for Blue Beetle yet. I'm still waiting for desperate to see Blue
• 49:55
  Beetle, but I'm too cheap to pay six niney nine to rend it off
• 49:58
  YouTube. It'll be on Binge soon, Home of DC. Speaking of a
• 50:01
  friend of the show, member of the team, Jacob and his girlfriend chaper
• 50:05
  iPhone Ellen, we spoke about a long, long while ago. They started
• 50:08
  their own podcast, basically Blue Beetles on Bings right Down, Oh yeah,
• 50:16
  Weekend Jesus the Gate guys The Gate. Speaking of so Jacob and Ellen do
• 50:22
  their own podcast where Psyched, which is they're doing a rewatch of the TV
• 50:28
  show Psych. It's a first rewatch Ellen loves. How did they come up
• 50:31
  with that name? Where Where? I've been wanting to listen to their podcast,
• 50:37
  but there's been nowhere to watch Psych the TV show. Let me just
• 50:40
  have a look at this. Great at that, Brendan, he dropped on
• 50:44
  Netflix already. I've got the email already, mother or late seasons of Cych
• 50:47
  are now on Netflix in Australia, so I'll be able to watch that and
• 50:51
  listen to Jacobin Ellen's podcast Psyched. When Daniel Beams is just Psych, I
• 50:59
  believe nice spelling psych incorrect? Yeah, you probably are because you're from cards
• 51:04
  P S y C H E ma you mean Psyche. Oh, I'll have
• 51:09
  you know. We're sitting there watching the news the other night, obviously because
• 51:15
  were turning off a streaming streaming start and it popped up on live TV.
• 51:19
  And who who was reading? Who was behind the desk? No? E,
• 51:22
  okay, there you go. Who is behind the desk of Channel ten
• 51:25
  reading the news web key other than Ursler our old she's a Channel ten reported
• 51:31
  now she's behind the bloody desk? Mate and I said, so she was
• 51:35
  in our home like our home group essentially, yea, yeah, yeah,
• 51:38
  And and she was like one I get we went to school with her,
• 51:42
  and she's like, you know what lot of you guys have done? All
• 51:45
  right? I'm like, well, why don't you tell Maddie just because you
• 51:47
  don't know what carab is. The the teleprompter was probably eat some buddy carrot.
• 51:55
  Brennan took those, No you we're gonna eat them now. It was
• 52:00
  it was probably like the teleproperty was probably spelled everything up phonetically nothing. What
• 52:07
  phonetically means is what I didn't know what a telepromter was. When Daniel beams
• 52:22
  Jack onto the Odyssey from the SGC, it reminds me a lot of the
• 52:25
  scene in the season four episode Absolute Power. You remember when Daniel gets knowledge
• 52:30
  of the half ceases and he creates he makes the AG three satellite. That's
• 52:37
  right, he's sitting in that little control room, yeah chair, And that's
• 52:38
  what this when when Daniel was in charge of the Odyssey, he's like had
• 52:44
  ultimate absolute power like in that episode, and then Jack was trying to argue
• 52:49
  with Daniel, and I'm like, that same dynamic was in Absolute Power I
• 52:53
  forgot a lot of a lot of that dynamic in this episode. Yeah.
• 52:58
  The thing that jumped out from me from that scene was, and we talked
• 53:00
  about it last week or the week before with Atlantis, is we thought it
• 53:04
  was weird that of the three zz pms that Atlantis got, the Odyssey got
• 53:07
  one. Yeah, and then hopefully it was for more than just this episode
• 53:13
  where where Daniel somehow magically manages to make the Odyssey cloak and he's like,
• 53:19
  yeah, having his EDPM really helps. That was it, And that was
• 53:22
  it, And I'm like, please tell me they didn't they didn't give Odyssey
• 53:25
  a ZZPM just for that one line. It could be because then he kind
• 53:30
  of like he he changes it at the end. Oh yeah, he doesn't
• 53:35
  remember. Yeah yeah, So like thenesty is still has been a number like
• 53:39
  a button. Yeah, surely, surely, but yeah, because Carter's like,
• 53:44
  we don't know how to decloak it, can you? Ah right?
• 53:46
  So yeah, at the end of the episode, the Odyssey is still cloaked.
• 53:50
  I didn't even really think about that, forget where You're passed. I
• 53:52
  was actually thinking more about how those prior ships came so quickly after they shut
• 53:59
  down the Supergate because I feel like like it would take a lot of time
• 54:04
  to round up and that meant amount of soldiers to fill those ships. So
• 54:07
  how long was Daniel asleep? Well, I think you could probably hide behind
• 54:10
  the idea that they've been waiting. They've been sitting there waiting for their moment,
• 54:15
  because it's obviously that was the supergate from the Pegasus Project where we stopped
• 54:20
  them from coming through. So you reckon they're on those ships? Yeah,
• 54:22
  I mean the ships are self sufficient, they're designed to be lived on and
• 54:25
  waiting, so and those ships there would have been ships waiting to come through
• 54:30
  the Tropico back in Pegasus Project. I mean granted that was probably six months
• 54:35
  ago in universe at this point, but it's like, yeah, it wouldn't
• 54:37
  surprise me if they were kind of just hanging out there. But how would
• 54:43
  they have known to dial at that moment unless maybe the ore or the step
• 54:47
  they sent the ship through, right, Oh, that's right, they sent
• 54:51
  through the au I ship and with the sun gral on it, So yeah,
• 54:54
  they would have known that it was okay to dial through. But then
• 54:58
  what my point of view is like or they people would have lived on planets,
• 55:01
  like if you sold soldiers or whatever. If you can't get to the
• 55:06
  to the front line, then like, what are you doing? He's staying
• 55:09
  in camp or yeah, yeah, I think that makes sense that, Yeah,
• 55:14
  when Pegas's project happened and they couldn't dial in, but it was still
• 55:16
  they all just went and landed and lived on the planet. But I think
• 55:21
  you could hide behind the fact that they were all just living on their ships,
• 55:23
  just waiting around their supergate waiting to dial in and spoiler alert for anyone
• 55:29
  who doesn't want to be spoiled, skip ahead thirty seconds or whatever. But
• 55:32
  in the audio commentary about a spoiler for the end of this show and then
• 55:38
  going into ark of truth, maybe me. But I'm editing this too,
• 55:44
  so I mean, yeah, you've seen it all before, everything I do,
• 55:47
  forget everything. Yeah, you've never seen it. No, but I
• 55:52
  look going to tell you what happens in season five of Atlantis when you know
• 55:53
  Rodney dies. Oh, I honestly think, like it's like I've said,
• 55:59
  the last couple of episodes the best one, they may as well be new
• 56:01
  content for me, Like Daniel showed up as a prior and I'm like,
• 56:04
  yeah, like I think I've got a vague memory of him and the makeup.
• 56:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like I forget it, so,
• 56:09
  like, yeah, I haven't seen this episode for probably twelve years. Oh
• 56:14
  really, I really This is one of my most rewatched because I remember Daniel
• 56:19
  being evil for some reason. But I guess it's the prior makeup, like
• 56:22
  you know, you throw your mind back. He's wearing the prime makup.
• 56:25
  He's strapped to the chair and he actually does like backstab them in a way,
• 56:31
  you know what I mean, does he well, he steals the ship,
• 56:36
  yeah, I guess, yeah, just a little bit of a little
• 56:38
  bit, and like he kidnapped Jack and Jack against his will. Jackie,
• 56:43
  you know, hey, hey, we know what's going on. He has
• 56:45
  done that. Thor just rocks up to earth and beams Oh yeah, Chris.
• 56:52
  Because he doesn't a genitals, that's fine, yes, But because Daniel
• 56:55
  has a penis for mate, that's perfectly fine. Yeah. So I think
• 57:01
  he's namely, you know, he had to lead the kids with Daniel Jackson
• 57:05
  or a bear, which one Daniel Jackson with the bear Daniel Jackson is Yeah,
• 57:14
  but I did like how that worked because when he like the straps came
• 57:17
  off his wrists and I was like, oh, yeah, that's right,
• 57:21
  you mother, you are. And then he's not bored of my plan.
• 57:24
  You're like, oh shit, okay. Then he kidnaps Jack. What's going
• 57:29
  on here? And then he gets up and I like, how O'Neill's sitting
• 57:31
  there, Daniel and before he even turns around, and then I'm like,
• 57:36
  okay, Daniel's going to reveal himself here, and then he doesn't, and
• 57:38
  Jack's not surprised. And then I guess at the same time, maybe I
• 57:43
  wasn't surprised either that it was actually Daniel and they're traveling through. They get
• 57:46
  to the spot, Daniel goes back aboard the ship in front of Andrea and
• 57:52
  immediately resumes, Ah, my plan worked. I see my orsi, Lord,
• 57:57
  Queen, mistress woman and what what do you And then like Card is
• 58:00
  looking at him, like you that you think? Yeah? You thought like
• 58:06
  at that point, did they well they didn't know Jack was there. Yeah,
• 58:09
  they don't know Jack was there. Yeah, So it was like it
• 58:12
  was very just like, Daniel, how did you get here? Yeah?
• 58:15
  So I loved how all that played out, because that's still that still could
• 58:19
  have been Daniel having played Jack his truth, was him breaking out of the
• 58:23
  Straps kidnapping. Oh yeah, it's really me Like, I feel like a
• 58:28
  second watch of this episode is better than the first watch. Yeah, because
• 58:31
  you know that Daniel's always on SQ one side. That's because what I like
• 58:37
  so much is about we had, you know, seven seasons of Daniel and
• 58:42
  Jack always fighting and having philosophical disagreements on what the US military does, what's
• 58:49
  versus what's right, you know, what's right in your in your personal belief.
• 58:53
  So I kind of liked the idea. It's like, well, Daniel
• 58:57
  could be playing both of them so that Daniel gets what Daniel wants. You
• 59:01
  know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't surprise me, Like I know that Daniel's
• 59:06
  not going to kill SG one, but I believe that he was lying to
• 59:09
  both of them, even though in the end he Daniel was telling the truth
• 59:13
  to you know, Jack and sgu on the whole time. But I would
• 59:15
  believe that Daniel would lie to both sides to achieve whatever he needed to manipulate
• 59:22
  both of them. That's why didn't like it the first time, thinking that
• 59:28
  I don't know if he's good or bad. Yeah, but as good in
• 59:30
  the terms of the storyline. I suppose to keep you guessing. Yeah,
• 59:36
  but I like the second rewatch better because, yeah, you know, and
• 59:39
  as much as we talked about we talked about a few weeks ago, it's
• 59:43
  like, would looking back, would we have actually enjoyed if it had been
• 59:49
  a four or five episode arc where Daniel was a prior and we saw him
• 59:53
  instead of seeing all the stuff in flashback we saw him living with Andrea,
• 59:58
  we saw him prophetizing whatever that whatever they call it, and all that kind
• 1:00:02
  of stuff, and then in episode three or something like that, we see
• 1:00:06
  him get turned into a pry and it's like, would we have been like,
• 1:00:08
  oh, Daniel's going dark? Sid, I don't like this at all.
• 1:00:12
  So in the long run, was it actually better? They just did
• 1:00:14
  it as this one episode, show it in flashback, and by the end
• 1:00:16
  of the episode, I guess probably it probably is better this way because even
• 1:00:22
  when you think about the production wise, he had to go and he's a
• 1:00:25
  little sabbatical and then come back, so that, yeah, why was he
• 1:00:30
  away for so long? Let's make it interesting? Yeah, works. I
• 1:00:34
  think he did the best with with having to him not be available. It
• 1:00:37
  almost almost wonder Obviously it was his schedule to choose that he wanted two weeks
• 1:00:42
  off before hiatus in the middle of the season, and two weeks off at
• 1:00:45
  the Enata. But it's like, if he just taken an extended hiatus,
• 1:00:50
  imagine if, like, you know, there'd been four episodes in a row
• 1:00:52
  or something like that where there was no Daniel and we'd seen, you know,
• 1:00:57
  the end of the Quest where he's captured by Adrea, and then we
• 1:01:00
  don't see him for four episodes. Yeah, well we didn't quickly because we've
• 1:01:04
  watched Atlantis. Yea, yeah, that's true. Just feel like a long
• 1:01:07
  time. I'm just thinking, Okay, if it's a two parter, maybe
• 1:01:10
  you take the flashbacks out of the first episode and the first ends in a
• 1:01:15
  cliffhanger where he stands up straps off, choking Wolsey or whatever, and you're
• 1:01:21
  like that he's revealed himself. No, he was a Pride this whole time
• 1:01:24
  and he's been deceiving them. The second episode then begins and it's just the
• 1:01:29
  story of him becoming a prior, and that's fifteen twenty minutes. You're like,
• 1:01:34
  oh, Michael Shank's episode, I'm seeing him go to the dark side.
• 1:01:37
  Yeah, yeah, that would have been cool. Yeah, but maybe
• 1:01:39
  it was written by Cooper. It's a bit like, was it the old
• 1:01:45
  Legends universe Luke Skywalker that he turned to the dark Side because that was the
• 1:01:49
  only way that he could beat whatever the next oh yeah villain was. He's
• 1:01:52
  like, I actually have to let the dark side consume me, and I
• 1:01:55
  think La had to then be the one to bring him back. He's I'm
• 1:01:58
  actually gonna go full dark side, but I need someone you know, so
• 1:02:00
  powerful, too compelling. Let's not do That's do different. Let's do something
• 1:02:06
  different. We bring Ryan Johnson in right and direct. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:09
  just throw the lights ever over the shoulders. It doesn't mean what are you
• 1:02:13
  writing off the back of? It doesn't matter what are you writing towards?
• 1:02:15
  It doesn't it doesn't, it doesn't it So yeah, move on speaking about
• 1:02:20
  myself, speaking about great chemistry between actors, and yet we get at our
• 1:02:27
  kind of one and only scene of of Ben and Claudia together Cam and Vala,
• 1:02:34
  and they just have a great chemistry. You don't know what it is.
• 1:02:37
  It's just obviously fascape. But I just wish we had a got more
• 1:02:40
  of that in SG one. I feel like it's because of who valor Is
• 1:02:45
  as a character and she's so attached to Daniel. Yeah again, she just
• 1:02:49
  can't have enough time with Ben Brown. It sucks. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:02:52
  it's weird for them to be like, we're going to hire these two really
• 1:02:54
  popular actors from this other really popular sci fi show that doesn't exist anymore,
• 1:02:58
  and we knock to put him in scenes together because the word people will think
• 1:03:01
  we're trying to copy it, as we also hire Robert Bocardo from Star Trek.
• 1:03:07
  We hire all these other and then like you know, Duel State,
• 1:03:10
  you know that we were going to bring in all these other characters from you
• 1:03:14
  know, other sci fi shows, but they're not that use that. Yeah,
• 1:03:19
  yeah, there you go and use that to our advantage, like Atlantis,
• 1:03:22
  the way that Ronan and Taylor have just kind of become friends because they're
• 1:03:28
  the outsiders, and that we didn't need another alien on SG one. You
• 1:03:31
  didn't need to have Carter and then Daniel who's not the military person, and
• 1:03:37
  then three aliens on the team. But if you know Tilk's already long established,
• 1:03:43
  he may as well be Tari And then you bring in Vala and then
• 1:03:45
  you have Mitchell, who has maybe known her in the past through some things
• 1:03:50
  or whatever, and that that that would have been an avenue. But yeah,
• 1:03:52
  you're right, it's like you bring him in, he's you know,
• 1:03:54
  hey, he's Beens's American believe in God or maybe not, and so he
• 1:04:00
  doesn't. There's there's just always going to be a boundary between him and Vaha
• 1:04:03
  and they're never going to be able to climb over that to be able to
• 1:04:06
  get close, which and it definitely feels like that, I think, because
• 1:04:10
  there's never going to be a romantic kind of tension between them. And also,
• 1:04:15
  yeah, I feel like they're there. Chemistry is so good that it
• 1:04:21
  it kind of off puts the awkwardness of those two characters coming together. Yes,
• 1:04:27
  they have nothing in common, right, And yeah, I'm glad they
• 1:04:30
  didn't do a romance because I think probably not me too. I think Ben
• 1:04:32
  and Cudy would have been like, we are not paying another romance. Absolutely
• 1:04:35
  not, but it would have. Yeah, it would be nice to capitalize
• 1:04:39
  on the natural chemistry that they have together, and yeah, put them on
• 1:04:43
  screen to because it's like people who love Fastcape are going to go, oh,
• 1:04:45
  it's two of my favors. Well, I mean there's even a Fast
• 1:04:47
  gape, give me one for that. But there's a Fastcape episode where they
• 1:04:49
  get where there's this love steam and they get horny and all the time.
• 1:04:55
  Oh yeah, that would have been cool an episode like that. Yeah,
• 1:04:58
  what I mean where they get just still the episode where they all body shift
• 1:05:02
  and like, you know, Claudia Black is impersonating Ben Browder. Ben Browder
• 1:05:06
  is impersonating called that's black and they do a great job of it. That's
• 1:05:11
  perfect. What's what was the time between Fastcape ending and like Ben Browder coming
• 1:05:18
  op? Definitely two thousand and four ended, But then I believe Ben Browder
• 1:05:28
  auditioned or you know, the role of Shepherd was written for him season one,
• 1:05:30
  but he couldn't do season one of Atlantis because he was filming Peacekeeper Wars.
• 1:05:35
  So that pretty fresh, pretty close. I think when Claudia came and
• 1:05:39
  did Prometheus Unbound, she just finished filming Peacekeeper Wars. Yeah, right,
• 1:05:45
  and that was Yeah, there was like from the time Fast Gate was canceled
• 1:05:49
  to the time Peacekeeper Wars got the go ahead was maybe a year or something
• 1:05:53
  like that, and then they actually sort of filmed. It could have been
• 1:05:56
  like a six month twelve months maybe, so like they're so fresh and work
• 1:06:00
  looking together all the time. They've had like a tiny little break and then
• 1:06:02
  back into it again. So yeah, like, yeah, that's really cool.
• 1:06:06
  What what did you guys think of the varlor on Daniel's lap scene that
• 1:06:12
  was that was Claudia's choice. Well, it kind of fitted her character in
• 1:06:15
  a way, and like Shanksy couldn't do much physically. It was a little
• 1:06:23
  awkward because when she gets up and walks away, if you look at it,
• 1:06:26
  Daniel, well no, Daniels, Daniel's legs aren't sitting straight like the
• 1:06:32
  way the chair is. He doesn't have a perfect lap. It's kind of
• 1:06:36
  down so I think, you know, Claudia kind of had to cheat a
• 1:06:40
  little bit. She didn't actually have a flat surface to sit on like she
• 1:06:42
  was kind of you know, she didn't downwards. But apparently her choice on
• 1:06:46
  the day and Annie Mchita was kind of a little bit nervous about it.
• 1:06:49
  But everyone liked it. So I can see how people would just be like,
• 1:06:53
  oh, she does that all the time, like she swings her legs
• 1:06:56
  on the table. Yeah, and she like like climbs off over tilk.
• 1:07:00
  It's not it felt very in character. The only person like she doesn't touch
• 1:07:03
  is cam Mitchell. Yeah, it's weird. Apparently it was written in the
• 1:07:09
  script. I think that she was going to be on roller skates, which
• 1:07:13
  they then well then they used that later on. Yeah, but yeah,
• 1:07:17
  why didn't they already do that with the waitress? No? No, no,
• 1:07:20
  no. Yeah, so yeah, but it was it was it was
• 1:07:25
  Claudia's choice to to sort of do it this way, and I think it
• 1:07:27
  was nice. But like I said, I would have actually preferred a Sam
• 1:07:31
  Daniel scene to a Vla Daniel scene. But I get it because Varla has
• 1:07:36
  the connection to Adre and all that kind of thing. But that's what I
• 1:07:41
  mean. Her character is very much intertwined with Daniel Jackson. It's kind of
• 1:07:46
  a yeah, speed bump for the riders. Yeah, they can't get around
• 1:07:50
  it, but my daughter at least mouth something something that sort of I always
• 1:07:58
  forget to off screen. The dead List was a part of this mission the
• 1:08:01
  whole time, because the Deadlist was hanging out in the Pegasus Galaxy and blew
• 1:08:06
  up the stargate, the little tiny stargate. We didn't see that, and
• 1:08:10
  we didn't see any of that. That was all done off screen because yeah,
• 1:08:14
  because Jack's talking to the Dadalust through the wormhole. Through the wormhole tells
• 1:08:18
  the Dadalist to detonate the Mark nine so it severs the wormhole. One thing
• 1:08:23
  that I thought, I know there was still I think one other because there
• 1:08:27
  was two prior ships. One Daniel used to fly through the supergate with the
• 1:08:31
  sun Graal and then it turned off. But then to me, that would
• 1:08:38
  have been the perfect time for the Odyssey to destroy the supergate and that would
• 1:08:44
  have stopped the ships from coming through. But I guess you could hide behind
• 1:08:46
  the fact that, oh, you know they couldn't fire weapons. Well it
• 1:08:48
  was cloaked, that's a Star Trek thing or something like that. But yeah,
• 1:08:54
  just like it would have been the perfect opportunity to destroy the supergate and
• 1:08:57
  then yeah, none of thosehips would have come through. They would have just
• 1:09:00
  send another supergate. But at least, yeah, we bought them time.
• 1:09:03
  They had to have got another beach head, found another black hole, all
• 1:09:08
  that kind of stuff, and that would have given us another opportunity to stop
• 1:09:10
  them, like we didn't Pegas's project. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even
• 1:09:13
  think of that because I was thinking about the Daniel thing and how quickly they
• 1:09:15
  came through. There is a weird yeah, because it was a weird fade.
• 1:09:18
  It was like they beam onto the au I bridge. I thought they
• 1:09:23
  were back in the SGC. Yeah, when Daniel was on when he wakes
• 1:09:27
  up in the bed, you think it's back this you see. No,
• 1:09:29
  they're still in the Odyssey. And that's when Carter says like, oh,
• 1:09:30
  you know, we can't turn the cloak off. They've just been waiting there.
• 1:09:33
  And I think in that time between when Daniel reset, like when Merlin
• 1:09:38
  left him and then it kind of fades to black and he's wakes up in
• 1:09:43
  the infirmary, I think it was somewhere in there where the other au I
• 1:09:46
  ship arrived and he's waiting for the reinforcement ships to come through. But I
• 1:09:50
  feel like, yeah, remember when Carter and that pulled up, there was
• 1:09:55
  already an ri ship there. Oh was there? That's what I couldn't remember.
• 1:09:59
  And then I think that's where Adrea came from. Right, Okay,
• 1:10:02
  yeah, okay, you didn't shoot or anything. It just the entire time
• 1:10:08
  didn't shoot the ship going into the wormhole. No, yeah, true,
• 1:10:12
  Oh that's right, we had to move out of the way. That's right.
• 1:10:14
  It moved out of the way while the other one was coming in.
• 1:10:15
  That's right. Yeah, And I thought because Daniel passed out halfway between that,
• 1:10:21
  and it looked like the ship was kind of going off center. I
• 1:10:24
  thought it was going to hit the go that would be interesting, which is
• 1:10:28
  fun. But yeah, that was a cool shot where it just disappears and
• 1:10:30
  they go, yeah that c G I was mad. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:33
  that's really good. And they do say in the commentary aur I ships are
• 1:10:39
  almost a mile long, because they're saying how it's really hard to jump onto
• 1:10:44
  conversion. Yeah, it's really hard to convey the sheer size of it because
• 1:10:50
  it's like we used to seeing the human size stargate. We can't, we
• 1:10:54
  can't. I was looking at it comprehend just how big a supergate is,
• 1:10:59
  because we don't know how big an Aura ship is either. But yeah,
• 1:11:02
  even is like I mean, Varala moved that cargo ship into place when she
• 1:11:08
  got But we also said, like the way they shot that back in Beachhead,
• 1:11:14
  Yeah, those pieces never would been able to fit through a traditional gate
• 1:11:16
  through the first place, because like a cargo ship can't fit through a stargate,
• 1:11:21
  I guess unless Yeah, those pieces were giant. They were like five
• 1:11:26
  times the size of a of a cargo ship. Yeah, so, but
• 1:11:30
  yeah, they converted in this episode, which is funny because Stargate normally,
• 1:11:34
  I mean, we still don't know how big Atlantis is, like you know,
• 1:11:38
  or how big a Dedalist class ship is or anything like that, not
• 1:11:41
  officially in the show at least. Yeah, but they said our ships are
• 1:11:44
  almost a mile long, So miles what like two point six kilometers or something
• 1:11:47
  like that, So I guess they're two and a half kilometers long or something
• 1:11:51
  like that, or is at one point six? Yeah? Have you got
• 1:11:56
  conversion dot com? I haven't. No, that's that's just a rough guess
• 1:12:00
  alash memory. I'll just jump on a conversion dot com. Just check out
• 1:12:04
  my length. Oh yeah, six inches it was last time I was generous?
• 1:12:11
  Sorry? Was it one eighth of an inch? What is it?
• 1:12:15
  Six six eighths? Six sixty eight inch TV and six eighth foot in,
• 1:12:18
  which is one point something inches. That's fine, So one mar is sixty
• 1:12:25
  three thousand inches? Great people, kilometer one point six one point three?
• 1:12:30
  Come on, slide down your bugger. I think it's one point six.
• 1:12:34
  All the Americans are yelling at one point six zero nine three four four sixty
• 1:12:39
  nine. So maybe it's like six zero nine yeah, so maybe it's just
• 1:12:43
  under a mar Maybe it's like one point five kilometers. Yeah, basically fifteen
• 1:12:46
  hundred meters long. It's a huge, bitch soword. It's fifteen footy fields.
• 1:12:56
  Oh god, just for the people playing it home lately, a Canadian
• 1:13:00
  football field or whatever it is. You know, there's that joke for Atlantis.
• 1:13:03
  It was from from Echoes Fledger Salics when they talking about the size of
• 1:13:06
  the Fledger Salice and they're like, oh, it's so many football fields and
• 1:13:10
  he's a Canadian or American Canadian football fields a bigger or whatever. That's what
• 1:13:15
  she said, Hey, did anyone thing was actually you mentioned before Mitchell?
• 1:13:18
  The da Vinci Code. They mentioned the da Vinci Code in this episode Anyone's
• 1:13:23
  It was weird at the very very start of the episode, like they were
• 1:13:27
  trying to talk to that town guy and they're like, oh, you know,
• 1:13:29
  don't believe everything you read and then references the da Vinci Code, which
• 1:13:32
  the town guy would have no point of reference for. Is that what they
• 1:13:36
  said? And then Vala starts defending the da Vinci code, which I'm like,
• 1:13:40
  he's just going to confuse that guy, going, so do I believe
• 1:13:42
  the Origin book or not? I was thinking the exact same thing, because
• 1:13:45
  I must have missed that line where he's talking about the da Vinci code.
• 1:13:47
  Is it a subtle thing? Did he actually say da Vinci cos? Yeah,
• 1:13:50
  it's like we have a who brought cam Who's No. I think he
• 1:13:54
  says we have a book like that at home. He was referencing the Bible,
• 1:13:58
  That's what I thought. But then Varla brought up the da Vinci code?
• 1:14:00
  Did she Yeah? Did she say da Vinci code? Something like that?
• 1:14:04
  Someone? You think in front of your playet, we're saying that book's
• 1:14:08
  got about as much truth in it then code that they who I do not
• 1:14:14
  understand. It's a book from our planet. It's very entertaining, but it's
• 1:14:17
  fiction. Nonetheless. Okay, I think we've gotten a little left point.
• 1:14:21
  Okay to me that, oh, I think we've got a little off point.
• 1:14:29
  That is a nice actual grab that, but yeah, just a little
• 1:14:32
  weird, like it's Vala being Vala. But it's just confusing the point as
• 1:14:35
  well, because you're trying to tell this guy that the Book of Origin is
• 1:14:39
  a piece of ship, and he's and then and then he's comparing it to
• 1:14:42
  a book on our planet. And then VALA's going, well, that book
• 1:14:44
  on your blney you're bearing to there's some truth in that. And it's like,
• 1:14:46
  Vala, you're not helping. No, she was talking about the DaVinci
• 1:14:51
  code. Yeah, mate, I didn't. I just missed that line.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah, sorry, cakes, That's all I got. That's all I got
• 1:14:59
  to Oh, except for I did like it that there was a quick little
• 1:15:01
  shot where Carter was. I think it was when Daniel's beamed up. Carter's
• 1:15:06
  like in command on the bridge of the Odyssey. I was like, she
• 1:15:09
  wasn't in one of the little chairs. She was in the command chair.
• 1:15:14
  Where's the guy? Not guy? But was we killed last time? Yeah,
• 1:15:18
  but they don't have a new one yet, not yet. Weird.
• 1:15:21
  Yeah, yeah, there there was no There was no like full bird colonel
• 1:15:26
  guy in charge of the the Odyssey this time. I guess because Daniel stole
• 1:15:29
  it. Is Landry higher than O'Neill, because it's a they said it in
• 1:15:35
  the commentary. There was because there was a stuff up. So in a
• 1:15:38
  couple of the scenes, Jackie is wearing a one star general like casual uniform,
• 1:15:45
  but he is a two star general. He's the same rank as Landry,
• 1:15:50
  but there's something about like operational command. So it's like, oh,
• 1:15:55
  yeah, like we're talking about on the ship. Yeah, so Jack is
• 1:16:00
  technically Landry's boss even though they're the same rank. Yes, but in the
• 1:16:08
  SGC, Landry has yeah in because it's it's not a direct line of what
• 1:16:16
  do you call it, yeah, line of submission, whatever your rank whatever.
• 1:16:21
  I just like to whenever he comes to the base. For the most
• 1:16:25
  part, anyway, he just puts on the casual where Jack like he's back
• 1:16:29
  at home and he can be a little bit more like, yeah, he
• 1:16:30
  has got this really important role in this there, yeah with you. That's
• 1:16:35
  why he still got the one star casual updated and he's Carter's tank top in
• 1:16:42
  ye walks in the Ring's got the sleeves pulled up, he's got the shirt
• 1:16:45
  untucked. He walks in that room because fellas like there's no just like soldiers,
• 1:16:49
  you know or anything like that, cannet's whatever, you know, that
• 1:16:53
  nothing you know, and then just walks in sub fellas and they're just like,
• 1:16:56
  well, better leave this guy just sort of like casually just walks in.
• 1:17:00
  It down on you. You look like you're a mechanic mane like you
• 1:17:02
  just sort of got the you don't look like you should. But I like
• 1:17:05
  the idea that I like this waiting. Yeah, I like that. It's
• 1:17:10
  a bit like da Like he comes back to the bass to the show and
• 1:17:14
  just like I'm back at home. If he could, he'd rock up in
• 1:17:16
  just like a Swede sweats was sweatsuit, like just the matching tracksuit pants and
• 1:17:24
  at just you know, orange Swede with the slazenger piping down something from Window
• 1:17:30
  of Opportunity. Yeah. No, I love this episode, really really good.
• 1:17:33
  Yeah, it's good fun. I just yeah, I think the only
• 1:17:36
  bad memory I had was I thought Daniel was bad coming into it. Other
• 1:17:41
  than that, Yeah, and with that, with the spoiler alert from before,
• 1:17:45
  it's like a really big important thing happens in this episode that's kind of
• 1:17:49
  a nothing from yeah kind of happens, you know, and and we don't
• 1:17:54
  really get a it's funny that and if you think about it, like if
• 1:17:57
  someone listened to the audio commentary, it's spoiled for them now, you know,
• 1:18:02
  potentially, like a year before Arc of Truth, everything came out,
• 1:18:05
  So get into gieg get into Gate, get into Gate Stargate podcast, Get
• 1:18:16
  into it now before it's too late. Yeah,