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- Lucas: So there is this number that has been rattling around in my head for weeks: ten million dollars. That is what one company saved by auditing something you probably never think about as a line item. Luna: Let me guess — meetings. Lucas: Meetings. Specifically, recurring internal meetings at a Fortune 500 industrial manufacturer. Not layoffs, not a new software system — they just looked at every standing meeting on the calendar, calculated what each one cost in employee time, and cut the ones that didn't earn their keep. Luna: And they got to ten million? That seems almost too neat. Lucas: It is a real figure. The company had about fifty thousand employees. They did a six-month pilot in one division of five thousand people. They identified 14,000 recurring meeting instances per year in that division alone. Average cost per hour per meeting? Roughly eight hundred dollars — that is the loaded cost of all attendees' time. They cut about 25 percent of those meetings. The division saved 2.5 million annually. Scaled across the whole company, ten million. Luna: Okay, but how do you get to eight hundred dollars per hour? That seems high. Lucas: It is high because most people only think about their own salary. But the loaded cost includes benefits, office space, IT support — the rule of thumb is roughly 1.3 to 1.5 times base salary. So a mid-level manager making one hundred thousand dollars a year costs the company about one hundred thirty thousand. That works out to about sixty-five dollars an hour. Put ten of those people in a room for an hour, plus a senior leader — bam, eight hundred dollars. Luna: Right, so the cost is not the meeting itself — it is the opportunity cost of what those ten people could have been doing. Lucas: Exactly. And that is what most companies miss. They track travel and software spend down to the penny, but the single biggest discretionary expense — employee time in meetings — is invisible because it is not coded as a cost. It just shows up as 'collaboration.' Luna: So how did they actually conduct the audit? Did they just send a survey saying 'do you need this meeting'? Lucas: They started with data. They pulled calendar metadata for all recurring meetings in the division — how many attendees, how long, how often. Then they layered on a simple decision tree. Every meeting gets asked three questions: one, does this meeting have a clear owner? Two, is there a written agenda distributed at least twenty-four hours in advance? Three, does the meeting end with a documented decision or action item? If the answer to any of them is no, the meeting is flagged for review. Luna: That is pretty binary. But I bet a lot of meetings fail that test. Lucas: The pilot found that about forty percent of recurring meetings had no agenda. Twenty-five percent had no clear owner. And thirty percent ended without a documented next step. Those were the ones they either cut or redesigned. And the interesting thing is, after the initial cull, they didn't just stop — they built a quarterly review process. Every quarter, a team re-evaluates the meeting portfolio. Luna: So it is not a one-time diet — it is a permanent change in how they think about time. Lucas: Right. And the cultural shift matters more than the immediate savings. Because once you start putting a dollar figure on an hour of meeting time, people start asking 'is this the best use of our money?' before they hit 'accept.' Luna: I can see that. At my last company, we had a weekly status meeting that lasted ninety minutes and had twenty people on the call. Half of them never said a word. That cost, what, two thousand dollars a week? One hundred thousand a year. Lucas: Exactly. And that is a single meeting. Multiply that across an organization and the waste is staggering. The study this company did actually found that the average employee was spending twenty-three hours per week in meetings. That is more than half their working time. Luna: Twenty-three hours? That cannot be right. That would mean almost three full days a week sitting in meetings. Lucas: That is what the calendar data showed. Now, that includes small one-on-ones, but still — it is a lot. And it is not just the time in the meeting. There is also the context-switching cost before and after. Researchers at Microsoft found that it takes about twenty-three minutes to refocus after an interruption. So if you have back to back meetings, you essentially never get into deep work. Luna: So the ten million in saved meeting time is probably an underestimate. The real gain is in improved output from the hours that are freed up. Lucas: That is the argument the company made internally. They framed the savings not just as cost avoidance, but as capacity creation. They said 'we are giving back 2.5 million dollars worth of engineering and design time to the business.' And that resonated more than the cost-cutting language. Luna: I want to get specific about the formula. If I am a manager at a mid-size company, how do I start my own audit tomorrow? Lucas: You need three things. The first is a rough loaded cost per employee per hour. You can get that from HR — average total compensation divided by two thousand working hours, times a fudge factor of 1.4. So if the average total comp is one hundred twenty thousand, your cost per hour is about eighty-four dollars. The second thing is a calendar export — just look at recurring meetings with more than two people. The third is a simple scoring rubric: agenda, owner, outcome. Luna: And then what? You just cancel the ones that fail? Lucas: Not immediately. You start by sending the meeting owner a one-question email: 'What is the specific outcome this meeting is designed to produce?' If they cannot answer in one sentence within a week, you cancel the meeting. If they can, you ask them to put that outcome in the invite description, along with an agenda. Then you audit again in three months. Luna: That is so simple. Why does it feel so hard to do? Lucas: Because meetings are social contracts. People have them because they always have. Cancelling a meeting feels like saying 'your work is not important.' But if you frame it as 'we need to protect everyone's time for the work that matters,' it lands differently. Luna: So the communication strategy is almost as important as the audit itself. Lucas: Critical. The company I mentioned did a huge internal campaign. They called it 'Time is Not Free.' They put posters up in the break room with the per-hour cost of a typical meeting. They had leadership model the behaviour — the CEO cancelled his own recurring staff meeting for a month and replaced it with a fifteen-minute written update. That sent a signal. Luna: That is smart. If the CEO is willing to cancel his meeting, then no one can complain about theirs. Lucas: Exactly. And the results were measurable. After the pilot, the division saw a twelve percent increase in self-reported deep work time. They also saw a slight uptick in employee satisfaction scores on the 'work-life balance' question. Because people had fewer meetings, they felt less fragmented. Luna: That is interesting — the satisfaction bump was not the goal, but it is a nice side effect. Lucas: It becomes a virtuous cycle. Less time in meetings means more time doing the work, which means less overtime, which means less burnout. And that saves money too, in retention and hiring costs. Luna: You know, speaking of small changes with big impact — it reminds me of something I have been meaning to mention. These episodes take time to research and produce, and we keep them free intentionally. No ads, no sponsors. But a lot of listeners have asked how they can support the show. Lucas: Yeah, it is a good point. If these conversations have moved your thinking forward in some small way — maybe you saved an hour of meeting time or rethought a process — a couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these going. That is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It is not a big ask, but it adds up. Luna: Exactly. And we are not going to turn this into a pledge drive. Just if it has been useful, that is the place. Otherwise, back to the tactical stuff. Lucas: So we talked about the audit itself. But I want to go deeper on what happens after you cut the meetings. Because if you just remove them without filling the time with something productive, people might just fill it with other low-value work. Luna: Right, the vacuum effect. Lucas: The company I mentioned actually did something clever. They created 'maker hours' — blocks of time on the calendar that are protected for individual work. No meetings allowed. They mandated that every team have at least two four-hour blocks per week. And they enforced it at the executive level. Luna: So they did not just subtract — they added a structure to protect the time they freed up. Lucas: Exactly. And they paired it with a shift in meeting culture. They started using a 'meeting cost clock' — a tool that displays the running cost of the meeting in real time. It is basically a counter that multiplies the number of attendees by their average hourly cost. Some companies have built it into their calendar software. Luna: That is brutal. I love it. Imagine you are in a meeting and the clock hits five hundred dollars and you have not decided anything yet. Lucas: It creates a sense of urgency. The research shows that when people see the cost, they are more likely to stay on agenda and end on time. One study found that meetings with a visible cost clock ended twenty percent earlier on average. Luna: So the lesson is: make the invisible cost visible. Whether through a clock, a formula, or a quarterly audit. Lucas: That is the core takeaway. Meetings are not free. They are the single largest discretionary expense most companies have. And the simplest way to start is to ask one question: 'What is this meeting for?' If you cannot answer it, cancel it. Luna: I think I am going to run an audit on my own calendar this week. See how many meetings I can cut. Lucas: Let me know how it goes. I bet you will find at least a few that you can axe. Luna: I will report back. Maybe that is a future episode. Lucas: Alright, that is the challenge. Next time we will look at a completely different angle — how one company used a simple checklist to reduce onboarding time by fifty percent. Luna: Looking forward to it.