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Feats of Strength: Amazing Plays · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

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SPEAKER_11: Hello and welcome to another amazing, stupendous, uh I don't know, fantastic, fantastical episode of Pittsburgh Sports Memories.
1:12
SPEAKER_11: Uh I'm your uh co-host, Steve Wirt, and as usual, I'm joined by I'm Tim Hannon.
1:19
SPEAKER_05: And and Steve, you know what?
1:20
SPEAKER_05: I was just thinking.
1:21
SPEAKER_05: Fantastic is one of those words that people don't use enough anymore.
1:24
SPEAKER_05: I feel like that's kind of faded.
1:27
SPEAKER_11: Yes.
1:28
SPEAKER_11: Ever since the Fantastic Four movie flopped.
1:30
SPEAKER_05: Uh, is that what did it?
1:32
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
1:33
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:33
SPEAKER_05: What about terrific?
1:34
SPEAKER_05: That's another one you never hear anymore.
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SPEAKER_11: Terrific.
1:36
SPEAKER_11: Fantabulous.
1:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Fantabulous.
1:40
SPEAKER_05: Well, this podcast is all the above, as Steve said.
1:43
SPEAKER_11: Yes.
1:44
SPEAKER_11: I was kind of trying to get into my channel, my inner P.T.
1:47
SPEAKER_11: Bardum, but um I digress.
1:50
SPEAKER_11: Um on this episode, we're gonna uh, you know, discuss uh much like Frank Costanza, if you're a Seinfeld fan and you remember Festivus, the made-up holiday, um, there was a portion of that holiday called the Feats of Strength.
2:03
SPEAKER_11: And uh Festivus couldn't be over until George pinned his father.
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SPEAKER_11: So um unlike that, we will be just reliving um amazing feats of athleticism by Pittsburgh athletes in uh various situations.
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SPEAKER_11: Some um you probably have heard of over and over again, and some uh you may not have heard of before.
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SPEAKER_11: Um, but they still compute continue to impress us, and um so uh listen along and let's uh all enjoy these amazing uh athletic uh talents of Pittsburgh sports uh players in Pittsburgh sports history.
2:41
SPEAKER_11: Um first up, I figure we'll go a little bit we're just gonna do 10.
2:46
SPEAKER_11: This won't be in any specific I say Pacific, specific order.
2:52
SPEAKER_11: Um the first one is a uh playoff game against the Bengals.
2:57
SPEAKER_11: It was a wildcard playoff game.
2:59
SPEAKER_11: Uh what was that, 2016, Tim?
3:01
SPEAKER_11: That sounds about right, right?
3:03
SPEAKER_05: Uh it was the 15 season.
3:04
SPEAKER_05: It was like January 16th.
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SPEAKER_11: So 16.
3:07
SPEAKER_11: It was 16, but it was the 15 season.
3:10
SPEAKER_11: All right, so um this guy named Martavius Bryant used to play wide receiver for the Steelers.
3:18
SPEAKER_11: And in that game, he made a tremendous catch in the end zone, like rolling over and holding the ball between his legs.
3:25
SPEAKER_11: And uh we'll play a quick video of that right now.
3:30
SPEAKER_09: From the gun, Rockersberger.
3:33
SPEAKER_09: In some bound, And it is a touchdown by David Bryant delivered to the challenge.
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SPEAKER_11: Darius Hayward Bay celebrating there.
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SPEAKER_11: That was pretty cool.
3:49
SPEAKER_11: So um, I mean, it's just it was a big play.
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SPEAKER_11: I think it put the Steelers up 15 to nothing at that point.
3:55
SPEAKER_11: And uh, but the Bengals did come back and take the lead 16 to 15, and should have probably won the game in regulation, but um, they decided it was more fun to take stupid penalties like hitting Antonio Brown in the head and like yelling at Jerry Porter, who I don't know who Jerry Porter is, but the Joey Porter was on the field for no apparent reason.
4:19
SPEAKER_11: So and you can relive that in our Joey Porter episode.
4:23
SPEAKER_11: So uh I mean good times had by all.
4:26
SPEAKER_11: What a waste of talent, Martavius Bryant.
4:29
SPEAKER_11: You know, he really like tanked his career because he just like really liked to do marijuana.
4:36
SPEAKER_11: And I mean, my goodness, if that guy would have came on like four or five years later, he would have been fine with like how legal weed is now, but it was the high heady days of 2015.
4:48
SPEAKER_11: So you weren't allowed to do that stuff back then, Tim.
4:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean it it's a shame because that guy was so talented and he had such a short run with the Steelers, but man, that catch it's funny in that clip you played.
5:05
SPEAKER_05: I don't think they even realized it until they showed the replay.
5:08
SPEAKER_05: He like you said, he's like it's it's really hard to describe.
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SPEAKER_05: We'll post a link to it on our It's in between his legs.
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SPEAKER_11: He like catches it in between his legs as he's doing like a somersault on the air.
5:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
5:19
SPEAKER_05: In the air, right.
5:20
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, no, not on the ground, in the air.
5:23
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's unbelievable.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's it's crazy, and he hangs on to the ball the whole time.
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SPEAKER_05: It's it's it's just one of the craziest catches you'll ever see in football.
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SPEAKER_11: Definitely an amazing feat.
5:37
SPEAKER_11: And just think that's only an honorable mention.
5:39
SPEAKER_11: That didn't even make the list, Tim.
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SPEAKER_11: The a couple other honorable mentions that you can look up.
5:46
SPEAKER_11: Uh James Harrison's 100-yard interception return.
5:49
SPEAKER_11: Um SNL did a great parody of that.
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SPEAKER_11: We'll have that link for you.
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SPEAKER_11: Um, the Immaculate Reception, we've covered that in a whole podcast episode.
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SPEAKER_11: If you want to watch the video to that.
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SPEAKER_11: And then Troy uh Paul Maul had a pretty sweet interception against the Chargers.
6:05
SPEAKER_11: What year was that?
6:06
SPEAKER_11: Was that 2008, 2010?
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SPEAKER_11: Somewhere in here.
6:11
SPEAKER_05: It was it was the year that they won the Super Bowl, it was 2008.
6:14
SPEAKER_05: It was that 11 to 10 game.
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SPEAKER_05: It was the only game in NFL history that ever ended 11 to 10.
6:21
SPEAKER_05: It was a scorigami.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_11: So um, all those we'll have links to the videos and such.
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SPEAKER_11: You can check that out on our website.
6:30
SPEAKER_11: Gives you a good reason to go to our website, right, Tim?
6:34
SPEAKER_11: Tim slaves away at our website.
6:36
SPEAKER_11: We don't pay him anything.
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SPEAKER_11: We we lock them in the basement with a bunch of computers and make them code all day.
6:42
SPEAKER_11: Ha, you know.
6:46
SPEAKER_11: Must be what it's like to work for uh Zuckerberg at at Facebook or Meta, huh?
6:52
SPEAKER_05: Uh sure, sure, sure.
6:56
SPEAKER_05: The opinions expressed by Steve are not necessarily the opinions of Pittsburgh Schwartz Memories Incorporated.
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SPEAKER_05: Just in case Meta's are listening.
7:04
SPEAKER_11: Let's not trash the sponsors, huh?
7:06
SPEAKER_11: Um so um first play on our list, and once again, this is in no specific order.
7:14
SPEAKER_11: Maybe at the end we'll try and pick the top ones that we like.
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SPEAKER_11: But um so we're rewinding the clock back to 2006, and it's the backyard brawl.
7:26
SPEAKER_11: And if you're new to Pittsburgh Sports, Backyard Brawl is not like to me and Tim don't go into backyard and like wrestle around or anything.
7:35
SPEAKER_05: No, um We do we do, we just don't have a name for that.
7:39
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, we just we just call that good fun, I guess.
7:41
SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_11: Um it's the game between Pitt and West Virginia, and it could be in you know basketball or football, but it's more probably more well known for the football game.
7:52
SPEAKER_11: Um so in 2006, uh Pitt played the eighth-ranked WVU at some place called Heinz Field.
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SPEAKER_11: There's a Pittsburgh sports memory.
8:00
SPEAKER_11: Remember Heinz Field, Tib?
8:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, that's an old one.
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SPEAKER_11: So um it was a high-scoring first half, and West Virginia punted the ball, and Darrell Revis comes up with his amazing return where Derek Kinder blocks two people, and he just like makes about two spin moves, runs over Pat McAfee, and scores a great touchdown.
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SPEAKER_11: So we'll play that video.
8:28
SPEAKER_06: And the Panthers let it hit.
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SPEAKER_06: Picked up on the bounce there by Reevas.
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SPEAKER_06: He's given ground.
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SPEAKER_06: He gets a block.
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SPEAKER_06: Turns the corner at the 20.
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SPEAKER_06: He's at the 25.
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SPEAKER_06: And he's knocked out of bounds.
8:37
SPEAKER_06: No, he's coming up the sideline.
8:38
SPEAKER_06: And he's coming to the 50.
8:39
SPEAKER_06: And he's going down the field.
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SPEAKER_06: He's got inside the 25, still on his feet.
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SPEAKER_06: Inside the 20, still on his feet.
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SPEAKER_06: And he got the answer for a touchdown.
8:48
SPEAKER_06: Darrell Revis.
8:50
SPEAKER_06: The Panthers have said all year this guy's going to break one.
8:54
SPEAKER_06: I can't describe what he did, how many tackles he broke.
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SPEAKER_06: He got a block to get sprung, but then he did the rest on his own.
9:02
SPEAKER_06: This guy is just unbelievable.
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SPEAKER_11: That was a pretty awesome return, and uh it was against West Virginia.
9:11
SPEAKER_11: I think they gave them a they had a I don't know if that gave them, but they had a 27 to 24 lead at the half, believe it or not.
9:18
SPEAKER_11: I remember that.
9:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that did give him the lead right before halftime.
9:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
9:23
SPEAKER_05: And uh I was at that game, Steve.
9:26
SPEAKER_05: I think you were too, right?
9:27
SPEAKER_05: Yes, I was.
9:28
SPEAKER_05: And and I just remember, man, when that happened, the whole stadium was just on fire.
9:34
SPEAKER_05: You know, and that wasn't a that wasn't a season where Pitfans had a ton to care about.
9:39
SPEAKER_05: No.
9:39
SPEAKER_05: Uh and and man, everybody just came alive.
9:42
SPEAKER_05: I mean, that was the biggest game because it was the backyard braw.
9:45
SPEAKER_05: The records didn't matter.
9:46
SPEAKER_05: That was the biggest game of the season.
9:47
SPEAKER_05: And then for him to break that the way he did, I just remember how just jazzed everybody was in the whole stadium.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah, and I remember as he ran, like I saw the block by Kinder because I was kind of on that end of the field, but like I could not see him finish the run, and I had to watch on the big screen, but it was just it was just cool.
10:06
SPEAKER_11: Like, there's two or three guys down like inside the 10 he has to like kind of like maneuver.
10:10
SPEAKER_11: It's not like one of those punt returns where they just outrun everybody.
10:14
SPEAKER_11: He had to like run some people over and make a spin move, and it was really an impressive return.
10:22
SPEAKER_05: And it was he and it was he and Kinder both.
10:24
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I I think they it got no I know it got nominated.
10:27
SPEAKER_05: I don't remember if they won.
10:28
SPEAKER_05: It got nominated.
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SPEAKER_11: I think it won the top play of that year.
10:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, play of the year.
10:33
SPEAKER_05: And but it was both those guys got nominated because Revis made the amazing run, but Kinder had he took out two guys with one block.
10:40
SPEAKER_05: That's what sprung him.
10:42
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
10:43
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that was pretty impressive.
10:45
SPEAKER_11: The block by Kinder is definitely whatever Derek Kinder's doing now.
10:48
SPEAKER_11: I don't know, forever and pit lore, at least backyard brawl history.
10:52
SPEAKER_11: Um, so Pitt with all that momentum goes into the half and promptly gives up like 24 more points in the second half and loses 45.
11:01
SPEAKER_11: Like I think it was 45 to 27 was the final support.
11:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
11:06
SPEAKER_11: I remember thinking going into that game.
11:08
SPEAKER_11: I knew the defense wasn't all that great, and I thought, well, they're gonna have to score some points.
11:12
SPEAKER_11: And then when we got to 27, I said, Well, we kind of got a chance, you know.
11:15
SPEAKER_11: So I figured 28 to 35 would keep us in the game, but sadly I was wrong, Tim.
11:23
SPEAKER_05: We we we did an episode on the game that happened the next year, the 13-9 shocker.
11:29
SPEAKER_05: And we've said it before, Steve, and I can't say I can't say it an enough times.
11:35
SPEAKER_05: The reason that's the most shocking event in the history of Pittsburgh sports, literally, is because if you were to watch this game in 2006, the reason that they blew us out in the second half is because we just couldn't keep up with them.
11:48
SPEAKER_05: Steve Slayton, Pat White, so so just those two, 2005 and 2006, both those games that was it massacres, and I think 2005 was the run faster game.
12:00
SPEAKER_05: They interviewed Dave Wanstead coming off the field at halftime, and he's like, What do you need to do in the second half?
12:04
SPEAKER_05: He's like, run faster.
12:06
SPEAKER_05: And that was that was like he was being sarcastic, but he was he was right.
12:10
SPEAKER_05: They couldn't, it was like imagine just running around uh like you said, the backyard.
12:15
SPEAKER_05: Imagine running around like you and I, old guys now, running around chasing like I don't know, you know, first graders who can run really fast.
12:23
SPEAKER_05: Like we'd never catch them.
12:25
SPEAKER_05: And that's the way it that's the way it looked uh those two years.
12:28
SPEAKER_05: So for for Pitt to for Pitt and then in 07, West Virginia had the best team that they've ever had.
12:33
SPEAKER_05: So for Pitt to even keep the score close, much less beat them in Morgantown, I like I said, I'll say it a million times, nothing has ever been or will ever be again as shocking as that game.
12:47
SPEAKER_11: I I I like it.
12:49
SPEAKER_11: Uh I'm I mean it is one of the more shocking events, the the 13-9 game.
12:54
SPEAKER_11: It just I remember just because like in the second half of that game, I was like, they like you said, they couldn't stop um it was Slayton, the running back.
13:03
SPEAKER_11: Like Pat White, they kind of kept under control, but like Slayton, they just could not stop him.
13:10
SPEAKER_11: And I don't know, like they didn't have what's his name yet?
13:15
SPEAKER_11: Um, who's the linebacker?
13:16
SPEAKER_11: Um McKillop.
13:17
SPEAKER_05: McKillop, yeah.
13:18
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
13:19
SPEAKER_11: So once they got McKillop, it seemed like they were able to stop that West Virginia offense the next two years after that.
13:28
SPEAKER_11: So uh fun game, fun play.
13:33
SPEAKER_11: Um switching to NFL football, a rivalry game nonetheless, but um it would be Steelers Browns in 1995, and I know Tim went to this game.
13:44
SPEAKER_11: Um so the Browns and Steelers meet in Three River Stadium on a Monday night with the Bills, Cower and Belichick at head coach, respectively, for each of their teams.
13:57
SPEAKER_11: And um it's an incredible play, and I think they took the lead on this.
14:01
SPEAKER_11: I can't I think it was it early.
14:03
SPEAKER_11: This was early in the game, wasn't it?
14:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was 7-0 or 0-0 when this was.
14:08
SPEAKER_11: So Cordell basically runs like the whole length of the field both ways and ends up throwing a touchdown pass to Ernie Mills.
14:16
SPEAKER_11: It's one of the more unbelievable plays in NFL history.
14:19
SPEAKER_11: Like, I can't believe this happened.
14:21
SPEAKER_11: Like, he didn't get tackled or something.
14:23
SPEAKER_11: Like, and it looked like something that would happen in like college or high school or backyard football or something.
14:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, plays like this didn't happen in the NFL.
14:32
SPEAKER_05: And I think this was the first time that they even had Stewart doing this kind of stuff.
14:37
SPEAKER_08: Well, here goes Cordell Stewart, a quarterback again.
14:43
SPEAKER_08: In the shotgun, and O'Donnell is the wide receiver.
14:48
SPEAKER_10: Oh, say Docks that rolling right to the short side of the field, looking back the other way.
14:54
SPEAKER_10: You're gonna get in.
14:55
SPEAKER_10: Hello.
14:58
SPEAKER_10: Flipping it.
15:00
SPEAKER_10: All right.
15:05
SPEAKER_08: That's great stuff.
15:07
SPEAKER_11: That was pretty cool.
15:08
SPEAKER_11: Dan Deer was that Dan Deerdorf on Monday Night Football?
15:12
SPEAKER_05: Dan Deerdorf and Frank Gifford and Al Michaels.
15:16
SPEAKER_11: Wow.
15:16
SPEAKER_11: Boy, that was that was a long time ago.
15:19
SPEAKER_05: Yes, it was.
15:22
SPEAKER_11: Uh, you were at this game.
15:23
SPEAKER_11: This was the year that um Cleveland, I I mean I have in the aftermath.
15:28
SPEAKER_11: The Steelers the Steelers end up going to um to Super Bowl 30, which they don't win, but the Browns have a much worse fate awaiting them.
15:38
SPEAKER_11: Whereas they they end up in Baltimore, and Cleveland doesn't have a team for like five years or four years.
15:44
SPEAKER_11: Tim, you went to this game, you wore your little armband, didn't you?
15:47
SPEAKER_11: The Cleveland Do you still have the Cleveland armbrand at the end?
15:51
SPEAKER_05: I actually still have it.
15:52
SPEAKER_05: And uh my little sign, my little save the Browns sign that the Browns fans all handed out to us as we walked in.
15:58
SPEAKER_05: It wasn't, you know, I think so yeah, the uh they Modell had made that shocking announcement he was gonna move the Browns.
16:05
SPEAKER_05: Steel were fans were gonna be able to do that.
16:06
SPEAKER_11: And they went the tank that year.
16:08
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
16:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and and we and Steelware fans were supportive, you know, were wore some armbands and held up signs.
16:13
SPEAKER_05: But not, you know, once the game started, it was like, okay, let's beat these guys.
16:17
SPEAKER_05: And and it was funny too that you know, Art Modell, we talked about this in a previous episode.
16:22
SPEAKER_05: He had all these miserable trips to Pittsburgh.
16:25
SPEAKER_05: He he even said there's a great quote where he basically says, like, it was brutal coming there every year because I always we just always found different ways to lose.
16:35
SPEAKER_05: And it it's so appropriate that this was his last ever visit to Pittsburgh, his owner of the Browns.
16:41
SPEAKER_05: And and you know, the one of the big play that beats him is this Cordell Stewart, rookie Cordell Stewart, who was you know playing all these different positions, lining up a quarterback and running this backyard play, like you said.
16:54
SPEAKER_11: And it's just crazy that, yeah.
16:57
SPEAKER_11: And uh, fun fact on the coaching staff was um uh Kirk Ferenc, who's the coach of Iowa, and um uh who's it uh Jim Bates, who was a longtime defensive coordinator, and I think Eric Mangini was also on that staff.
17:14
SPEAKER_11: So there were a lot of guys that would go on to have some success.
17:18
SPEAKER_05: Was it Nick Saban too?
17:20
SPEAKER_11: That was the year before.
17:21
SPEAKER_11: I thought Nick Saban was on this, but he'd actually gone to Michigan State that year.
17:25
SPEAKER_11: But in '94, Nick Saban was on that staff, too.
17:29
SPEAKER_05: Man.
17:29
SPEAKER_11: So I mean the Browns have not even I mean, when's the last time the Browns have made the AFC championship game?
17:36
SPEAKER_11: The drive or the fumble?
17:38
SPEAKER_05: 1989.
17:39
SPEAKER_11: It was is that the fumble?
17:40
SPEAKER_11: No.
17:41
SPEAKER_11: No.
17:41
SPEAKER_05: So the the drive was 86, the fumble was 87, 89 was just the Broncos beat them by like 20 points.
17:49
SPEAKER_11: Just for good measure.
17:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there was no like fun, you know, name to that game.
17:53
SPEAKER_05: Like Browns lose by 20.
17:55
SPEAKER_05: Um, but but the answer to the trivia question of when the Browns last made the AFC Championship game is also the answer to the trivia question when was the last time the Browns won the division?
18:05
SPEAKER_05: They literally have not won the division since 1989.
18:08
SPEAKER_05: Uh at the time of this recording, which is the longest drought in the NFL.
18:13
SPEAKER_05: That's crazy.
18:14
SPEAKER_05: And that includes a bunch of teams that didn't exist in 1989.
18:18
SPEAKER_11: I mean, that not they never I mean they have made the Super Bowl, neither has Detroit or Houston or Jacksonville.
18:26
SPEAKER_11: So I mean, I I don't know what to say about Cleveland.
18:30
SPEAKER_11: I think Juju said it was it Juju who said it best?
18:34
SPEAKER_11: Browns be Browns.
18:36
SPEAKER_05: Browns be Browns.
18:37
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
18:38
SPEAKER_11: Um you know it was a shame.
18:42
SPEAKER_11: Um so sticking with the um Cordell theme.
18:47
SPEAKER_11: Um, we're gonna play another game from Cordell.
18:51
SPEAKER_11: This is later in his career, 2000, and this is the last season at Three River Stadium, right?
18:56
SPEAKER_11: Yes.
18:56
SPEAKER_11: This is the second to last home game, I do believe, at 3 River Stadium.
19:02
SPEAKER_11: And uh Cordell early in the game has a fumble, but then he picks it up and he runs for a first down.
19:06
SPEAKER_11: It's a big play in the game, and I think it kind of built builds Cordell's um what I say confidence up.
19:12
SPEAKER_11: And uh the uh Steelers actually end up winning this game.
19:16
SPEAKER_11: This is the one with the Mark Brunner like carries like two Raiders into the end zone play, and this is a fun game.
19:24
SPEAKER_11: This is like Rich Gannon and uh who is it, uh Chucky uh what's his name?
19:29
SPEAKER_11: Gruden.
19:30
SPEAKER_11: Gruden arguing over fourth down or not.
19:33
SPEAKER_05: That's right.
19:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's right.
19:34
SPEAKER_11: Or we'll play the play the play.
19:38
SPEAKER_06: Deploying four receivers.
19:40
SPEAKER_06: Stewart with Russell coming up the middle.
19:42
SPEAKER_06: Happy Crumbers.
19:43
SPEAKER_06: Buffalo.
19:43
SPEAKER_06: Reeled in by Stewart.
19:45
SPEAKER_10: Gets away from Beaker.
19:46
SPEAKER_10: Coming up with the block from Hutley.
19:48
SPEAKER_10: Oh my gosh, what a run! Houdini is alive, an eighteen yard run.
19:57
SPEAKER_11: That's amazing.
19:58
SPEAKER_11: That's an amazing run.
20:00
SPEAKER_11: I think if it wasn't on Ashton Turf, you know, that ball probably doesn't bounce back to him like that.
20:06
SPEAKER_11: But um good for him.
20:08
SPEAKER_11: Boy, could you imagine him playing in the league today, Tim?
20:12
SPEAKER_11: He would probably be like a top ten quarterback easily.
20:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
20:17
SPEAKER_11: He was almost there last time.
20:19
SPEAKER_11: I mean, and like you couldn't hit him, like you could now like nobody could hit him.
20:24
SPEAKER_11: And he's a big guy, too.
20:26
SPEAKER_11: He's not like like Lamar Jackson, like he's kind of smaller or anything.
20:30
SPEAKER_11: Like Cordell, Cordell's kind of big.
20:33
SPEAKER_11: Like that would have been interesting to see him play like you know, 10 or 15 years later.
20:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, Cordell really ushered in kind of a new era of where those kinds of quarterbacks could now have an NFO career.
20:49
SPEAKER_05: Uh but unfortunately Cordell Cordell could get you to a big game, he couldn't really win you a big game.
20:56
SPEAKER_05: And I don't know that that's really changed that part really hasn't changed a whole lot, Steve.
21:00
SPEAKER_05: I mean, how many Super Bowls has Lamar Jackson won?
21:03
SPEAKER_05: How many Super Bowls is RG3 or Michael Vick or I don't know, name the Colin Kaepernick, all those guys.
21:10
SPEAKER_11: Well, I think there's a difference between good and great, and a lot of those guys check the good box, but not the great box.
21:18
SPEAKER_11: That's fair.
21:18
SPEAKER_11: Whereas like Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, Aiden Manning, who else, you know, um Ben Rothelsberger.
21:25
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, Ben Rothelsberger for sure.
21:28
SPEAKER_11: Like Philip Rivers, like would be another maybe good, not great guy.
21:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
21:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, true.
21:38
SPEAKER_11: So um in the aftermath, uh Cordell has one more good year but never reaches the Super Bowl, like we said.
21:45
SPEAKER_11: Um actually it's kind of weird that uh Gruden gets to goes to gets traded a coach.
21:51
SPEAKER_11: When's the last time that happened?
21:52
SPEAKER_11: Gets traded to Tampa and wins a Super Bowl in Tampa before Bill Cowler, like a couple years ago.
22:00
SPEAKER_11: But then John Gurden remembered he was John Gurden and he gets himself kicked out of the league with some apparently very raunchy emails to people at the Washington organization.
22:15
SPEAKER_05: Oops.
22:17
SPEAKER_11: Oops for oops is right.
22:19
SPEAKER_11: How to get yourself kicked out of the league.
22:23
SPEAKER_11: So moving to hockey and um some guy named Mario Lemieux.
22:29
SPEAKER_11: You ever heard of him, Tim?
22:30
SPEAKER_05: We could do we could have made a whole like amazing play episode with just Mario Lemieux.
22:36
SPEAKER_05: Well the the five goals five different ways would have been Yeah, or the the the one they made the statue out of that goal.
22:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah the Ricky Pilons, you know, where he's got a Richie Pilon statue.
22:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the Ricky Pilon statue.
22:51
SPEAKER_11: It's not the Mario statue, it's the Richie Pilons.
22:56
SPEAKER_11: Um so uh in 1991 the Penguins are in the Stanley Cup final, Tim.
23:02
SPEAKER_11: And I think they are down one game to none, right?
23:05
SPEAKER_11: Yes.
23:06
SPEAKER_11: Correct.
23:07
SPEAKER_11: So that's not good.
23:09
SPEAKER_11: You don't want to go down two games to none, especially since both the first two games were on home ice.
23:14
SPEAKER_11: But losing first games in a series is like a penguin's tradition, so why break with tradition, right, Tim?
23:22
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
23:23
SPEAKER_11: Um but in the second game, um I think they were I can't I think they were were they leading at this point?
23:32
unknown: Yes.
23:33
SPEAKER_11: They might have.
23:35
SPEAKER_11: And yes, the penguins are leading two to one, but they were down one thing in the series, and Mario decides that this is like one of those, remember I said good and great?
23:46
SPEAKER_11: Like, this is where Mario is great, and other players are just kind of good because there's a lot of other good good players on this ice, but Mario's just the greatest.
23:55
SPEAKER_11: He actually skates the length of the ice from his own defensive zone and splits both defensemen for the North Stars and beats um, was it Casey?
24:05
SPEAKER_11: John Casey.
24:06
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, John Casey, the the goaltender.
24:09
SPEAKER_11: We'll play this play for you.
24:11
SPEAKER_10: Here's Lemieux.
24:12
SPEAKER_10: The center penalty coming up.
24:14
SPEAKER_10: Look at the deal.
24:15
SPEAKER_10: Oh my heavens.
24:16
SPEAKER_10: What a goal! What a ball! LeView! Oh baby!
24:25
SPEAKER_11: Just like you described it, I think it kind of like turned the tables of that series towards the Penguins favor.
24:32
SPEAKER_11: It's like if whenever you see, like, oh, it's Stanley Cup final time, like and you they show like little highlights of like, you know, it starts in like black and white and then like you know moves forward, like that's one of the little highlights they show, you know.
24:46
SPEAKER_11: So it's become an iconic play in NHL history.
24:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, definitely iconic.
24:52
SPEAKER_05: And it was kind of the moment where you're like obviously the series wasn't over, but you were kind of like, okay, I think the penguins are gonna are gonna win this because I know it was only game two, and you know, they still hadn't officially won a game in the series, but man, he just it was just he just took over like he always did back then.
25:10
SPEAKER_05: And and John Casey.
25:12
SPEAKER_11: He was a pretty good goal, isn't it?
25:13
SPEAKER_05: He was yeah, I mean that that Minnesota team in their other season they were an under 500 team.
25:20
SPEAKER_05: They literally were under 500, and they made this run through the playoffs because they had this great goaltender, John Casey, who was on fire.
25:28
SPEAKER_05: And you've seen that so many times in NHL history with if a goalie really gets on fire, he will carry a team all the way to the cup, but he had no answer for Mario.
25:39
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, great.
25:40
SPEAKER_11: And uh so the aftermath was the Penguins win their cup, I think what they won, seven to nothing in game six.
25:46
SPEAKER_11: Eight.
25:48
SPEAKER_11: It was eight to nothing.
25:49
SPEAKER_11: I I know Jimmy Pack scored, so when Jimmy Pack's scoring goals, you you're on your way to victory.
25:54
SPEAKER_05: You you would you would um you would spend more time listing the the guys that scored than the guys you you'd rather just list the guys that didn't score in that game.
26:04
SPEAKER_05: There's only like four guys on the roster that didn't score.
26:09
SPEAKER_11: Uh Badger Bobs, the coach, unfortunately, he doesn't make it to the next season, but um it's a great memory.
26:15
SPEAKER_11: The penguins finally break through, kind of like this you know, sad sack you know franchise that it had been since 1968, finally wins a cup, and uh happy days are are here finally for the good old penguins.
26:28
SPEAKER_11: And uh unfortunately for the uh North Stars, they they moved to Dallas, which I mean that makes perfect sense.
26:35
SPEAKER_11: North Stars in Dallas.
26:37
SPEAKER_11: But now they're just the Dallas Stars, which makes more sense because what Texas lone star state, I guess.
26:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
26:46
SPEAKER_11: So I don't have they won a cop since then?
26:49
SPEAKER_11: I don't think so.
26:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they went.
26:51
SPEAKER_05: Remember Brad Hall against Buffalo?
26:53
SPEAKER_11: Oh, that's right.
26:54
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, they kicked they kicked it in, or like didn't kick it in.
27:00
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, that's a that was a crazy game.
27:04
SPEAKER_11: Well, sticking with like games that ended like rather crazily.
27:08
SPEAKER_11: Um we're sticking with hockey and it's Yarmor Yager versus the Blackhawks in 1992.
27:15
SPEAKER_11: This was game one, I do believe, right?
27:17
SPEAKER_11: Yes.
27:18
SPEAKER_11: One of the rare times the Penguins won game one in a series.
27:25
SPEAKER_11: But as is penguin tradition, they were down four to one in the game.
27:29
SPEAKER_11: See, they had to make it they they are so used to losing game ones, they had to really go down big against uh I think it was his Eddie Belfour was in that or the uh good old Blackhawks there.
27:43
SPEAKER_11: Yawger was 18.
27:44
SPEAKER_11: Was he 18, 19?
27:46
SPEAKER_11: He was not very old and did not speak much English at that point in his career.
27:52
SPEAKER_11: Um so that he makes he goes into the boards in the Blackhawk zone, and I don't I don't I think it was late in the game, but it wasn't under a minute or anything.
28:02
SPEAKER_11: And he basically beats like three Blackhawks and then shoots a backhand shot that goes somehow gets in the net through Belfour.
28:12
SPEAKER_11: I I I've watched this a hundred times and I do not know how this fuck went in the net.
28:17
SPEAKER_11: But we'll play play it for you here.
28:21
SPEAKER_10: Put to the corner and grabbed quickly by Kajera.
28:24
SPEAKER_10: Couldn't get it out.
28:26
SPEAKER_10: It's still in there.
28:27
SPEAKER_10: Jagger intercepted.
28:29
SPEAKER_10: Hangs on to it.
28:30
SPEAKER_10: Made a good move.
28:32
SPEAKER_10: Another good move.
28:33
SPEAKER_10: He's in.
28:34
SPEAKER_10: Scores.
28:34
SPEAKER_10: What a goal.
28:36
SPEAKER_10: Jagger ties it for Pittsburgh.
28:42
unknown: So
28:43
SPEAKER_11: That was the tie goal, so that was four four.
28:46
SPEAKER_11: And I think the Blackhawks, I know the Blackhawks ended up taking a penalty with like 20 seconds left, and then Mario scores on an empty net after Larry Murphy shoots it off of Eddie Belfour.
29:00
SPEAKER_11: That was that was kind of the end of the Blackhawks in that series.
29:03
SPEAKER_11: You talk about like that they gave it everything they got and they just had no answer for the Penguins.
29:08
SPEAKER_11: The Penguins were really good.
29:09
SPEAKER_11: The Blackhawks were another team like the North Stars the year before.
29:13
SPEAKER_11: They had been on kind of a hot streak and been really good.
29:16
SPEAKER_11: And they had two really good goaltenders, they had Hausick and Belfour.
29:20
SPEAKER_11: So and the Penguins just totally smoked them both.
29:26
SPEAKER_05: That Yager goal is like one of those ones that uh you would show if you were teaching youth hockey, you would show the kids never ever attempt something like this.
29:36
SPEAKER_05: Like just like like pass, you know, do something other than try to like single-handedly take on the entire Blackhawk team and then shoot a wayward back in and pocket the net.
29:48
SPEAKER_11: Did that go through his legs?
29:50
SPEAKER_05: I can never tell if it's like you said, you have to watch it like six times because each time you're like, there's no way that that's gonna go through that guy's legs.
29:58
SPEAKER_05: No, okay, okay.
29:59
SPEAKER_05: Well, you got it past that defense, but there's no way he's gonna get past the second defenseman.
30:02
SPEAKER_05: Okay, there's no way he's gonna get past the goaltender.
30:05
SPEAKER_05: It's really one of those things you just have to watch over and over again because it's that unbelievable.
30:13
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it it's amazing.
30:14
SPEAKER_11: It it's just and it was the game tying, which was important, and then of course Mario finished him off later.
30:21
SPEAKER_11: And that was literally the end of the Blackhawks in that series.
30:25
SPEAKER_11: I I I think the Penguins, you know, even in game four, when they won on the road, I mean Hausick made some saves and kept them in it, but it was still kind of uh I I I just remember it wasn't that close of a game.
30:41
SPEAKER_11: We have an interview of them and uh hey, let me see if we could see if we could play it here.
30:48
SPEAKER_10: I got lucky I got a I beat a couple of defensemen, I shoot it in it.
30:52
SPEAKER_10: One of my big enemies come in.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was probably the greatest goal I ever seen, you know.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh I've I've scored a lot of big goals, but uh, you know, one down and uh picked up the puck, beat three, four guys, and um he's got such uh great balance.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: Um can beat a guy one-on-one at will, and uh he's very strong with his upper body, and uh that was a great goal.
31:17
SPEAKER_11: That's great.
31:19
SPEAKER_11: A very young Yawger, the mullet is not fully in bloom yet, but um the the the accent's definitely there.
31:27
SPEAKER_11: And uh Mario, I I think it was a little wry smile there when he said one of the greatest goals I've ever seen.
31:33
SPEAKER_11: So um the next one up, we're gonna switch the pit basketball because why not?
31:42
SPEAKER_11: There aren't a lot of great things that have happened to pit basketball over the year.
31:46
SPEAKER_11: I guess you know there were later, but this was back in the what would you say, late eighties?
31:51
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, late eighties.
31:52
SPEAKER_05: It was eighty-eight, I think.
31:54
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
31:54
SPEAKER_11: And um, yeah, they were playing in the field house, this is pre-Peterson Event Center, and uh Jerome Lane sends it in and he breaks a backboard.
32:05
SPEAKER_11: And what makes it really incredible is because I don't remember a lot of college players breaking backboards back then.
32:11
SPEAKER_11: I think it happened the NBA here and there, but not not really in college.
32:16
SPEAKER_11: And it really became like an ESPN signature moment.
32:19
SPEAKER_11: Bill Rafferty makes the iconic Send It In Drome.
32:24
SPEAKER_11: So um we'll we'll listen to that.
32:26
SPEAKER_11: It's a it's a really good call by Bill Rafferty and a fun, fun play to watch and listen to, actually.
32:33
SPEAKER_04: Burton's little trouble.
32:34
SPEAKER_04: Now they loop it in.
32:35
SPEAKER_04: It's right and nobody's home.
32:36
SPEAKER_04: Picked off by Miller.
32:38
SPEAKER_04: Goes ahead.
32:38
SPEAKER_04: Lanes on the other wing.
32:39
SPEAKER_10: He finds it.
32:40
SPEAKER_10: Oh! Oh! Oh! Send it in, Jerome! No, you didn't hang on the rim.
32:52
SPEAKER_10: It's just a big man.
32:59
SPEAKER_10: Hold on and hold.
33:01
SPEAKER_10: Here we go again.
33:09
SPEAKER_11: I like one of the pit cheerleaders who watch the video doesn't know what to cheer.
33:12
SPEAKER_11: Like, she's like, Do I cheer for this?
33:14
SPEAKER_11: Do I not?
33:15
SPEAKER_11: The one's going nuts, she's like jumping up and then he's like, yay! And the other one's like, uh, okay.
33:20
SPEAKER_05: We gotta replace the bagboard now.
33:23
SPEAKER_11: I heard they uh added that to his student account.
33:26
SPEAKER_11: He had to pay for the backboard to be replaced.
33:29
SPEAKER_11: Sorry, sorry, Mr.
33:30
SPEAKER_11: Lane, that's gonna be 500 bucks.
33:34
SPEAKER_11: But um, fun fun fact, uh, Sean Miller, who would had the assist on this play, and uh Jerome Lane actually went on to have a four-year NBA career with Denver, Indiana, Milwaukee, and Cleveland.
33:50
SPEAKER_11: Um, Sean Miller ended up going to head coach at Arizona, and um then got himself in some trouble with the NCAA and had to go back to Xavier.
34:00
SPEAKER_11: He had been Xavier before Arizona had a lot of success there.
34:03
SPEAKER_11: Now he he's currently still the head coach of Xavier.
34:08
SPEAKER_11: Um, you know, just a fun play, and uh like I think the send it in germ, like Bill Rafferty makes that play as much as you know the play.
34:17
SPEAKER_11: It's just what a what a great reaction and great call by Bill Rafferty.
34:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's one of those things that's been replayed a thousand times in the last 30 plus years since it happened.
34:27
SPEAKER_05: And it is it not the most pit thing ever that he breaks the backboard, there's glass laying everywhere in the court, and they strike up the pit fight song.
34:36
SPEAKER_05: It's like it's literally like the greatest thing that's ever happened in pit basketball history up to that point.
34:43
SPEAKER_05: You know.
34:44
SPEAKER_11: Well, you know what's what's funny is I played um rec league basketball in my neighborhood back then, and my coach for the for uh my rec league team was at that game.
34:56
SPEAKER_11: And the I remember the next I think it was next practice, he brought in uh he had a piece of the backboard, just like a little piece, like a little short with the ticket.
35:05
SPEAKER_11: I wonder I wonder if Mr.
35:07
SPEAKER_11: Mellian still has that.
35:08
SPEAKER_11: I mean it's it's it's a pretty cool keepsake, you know.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: That would be.
35:12
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
35:13
SPEAKER_11: So uh moving sticking with the theme of Pitt is it.
35:19
SPEAKER_11: Um Larry Fitzgerald.
35:22
SPEAKER_11: Um he's a pretty good receiver, not so much linebacker, huh, Tim?
35:26
SPEAKER_11: That's correct.
35:28
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
35:29
SPEAKER_11: Um, so Larry Fitzgerald um was a freshman, and they in 2000, what would this be?
35:37
SPEAKER_11: 2002?
35:39
SPEAKER_11: They were they were in something called the insight.com bowl.
35:43
SPEAKER_11: Do you have any idea what insight.com does?
35:46
SPEAKER_05: Uh I do not, Steve.
35:48
SPEAKER_05: What do they do?
35:49
SPEAKER_11: No clue either.
35:50
SPEAKER_11: Oh, I thought you're they're they're very they're very insightful, Tim.
35:55
SPEAKER_05: I can just hear the thing.
35:56
SPEAKER_11: He thought I had the answer.
35:57
SPEAKER_11: I don't have to I don't know.
35:59
SPEAKER_11: I don't know they're probably not even around anymore.
36:01
SPEAKER_05: I can just hear the sound now of you know all the people listening to this pausing it so that they can you know uh get out their phones and look up insight.com.
36:11
SPEAKER_05: Is that fascinating?
36:13
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
36:14
SPEAKER_11: So if you know what insight.com does, you're a smarter person than I.
36:18
SPEAKER_11: I don't think it even matters.
36:20
SPEAKER_11: But um so Pitt is playing Oregon State in this game in 2002, and early in the game, Rod Rutherford drops back the pass, releases one like 30 yards down the field, and Larry Fitzgerald jumps from like the five and catches this ball and ends up in the end zone.
36:37
SPEAKER_11: It's a touchdown.
36:39
SPEAKER_11: And uh we'll play this one, it's pretty cool.
36:44
SPEAKER_10: And the blitz of Rutherford picked up nicely.
36:48
SPEAKER_10: Has time to fire one deep to sheriff open a cast for four touchdown.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: You're kidding me.
36:58
SPEAKER_01: There he is, folks.
37:00
SPEAKER_01: That's the guy.
37:01
SPEAKER_01: That is a true freshman.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: Look at this.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: That is a fantastic football catch.
37:09
SPEAKER_01: That's Jerry Rice reincarnated.
37:14
SPEAKER_11: That's that's just a great play.
37:15
SPEAKER_11: And I I love Bill Curry's was great in that game.
37:18
SPEAKER_11: He just started calling him like Jerry Rice and everything.
37:20
SPEAKER_11: And it's just an amazing play.
37:22
SPEAKER_11: And I remember the next season, because it like they won, they ended up winning that bowl game, and like they had such high hope hopes going to the next season.
37:30
SPEAKER_11: And remember they had Larry Fitzgerald like paused in midair like on a picture on the side of a bus, like when they were advertising seeing his season tickets, it was like season ticket plans take off soon or something.
37:41
SPEAKER_11: It was just a great ad, whoever thought up that idea.
37:44
SPEAKER_11: And uh it was just a great play.
37:47
SPEAKER_11: I mean, the aftermath, let's see.
37:49
SPEAKER_11: Well, Pitt breeds Oregon State, but they kind of languish in mediocrity for years to come.
37:54
SPEAKER_11: Um, Oregon State is playing football somewhere.
37:58
SPEAKER_11: Uh, not sure where or who or how, but um apparently it's them in Washington State in the pack two.
38:06
SPEAKER_11: There's a two-team conference, Tim.
38:08
SPEAKER_11: What a concept.
38:12
SPEAKER_05: Don't don't get me started.
38:15
SPEAKER_11: They had to go to court to kick everybody else out of like conference-making decisions.
38:20
SPEAKER_11: Like, like what does it matter at that point?
38:22
SPEAKER_11: It's like you're the last two people at the party, you just got stuck with the check.
38:27
SPEAKER_11: Like, good job.
38:29
SPEAKER_11: Uh but I just it's the most ridiculous thing.
38:34
SPEAKER_11: So I mean, uh I guess whoever wins that game can say, yay, we won the pack.
38:41
SPEAKER_05: The Pac-2 championship game consisting of those two teams.
38:45
SPEAKER_05: So so Steve, you you mentioned Bill Curry with that Kerry Rice quote.
38:50
SPEAKER_05: How how prophetic was that?
38:53
SPEAKER_05: Because literally Larry Fitzgerald goes on to become the number two all-time leader in NFL history in receptions, right behind Jerry Rice.
39:03
SPEAKER_05: Like, literally, that's the top two receivers in NFL history in terms of receptions, is Jerry Rice and Larry Fitzgerald.
39:09
SPEAKER_05: And here he's calling him Jerry Rice his freshman year of college.
39:13
SPEAKER_05: How about that?
39:14
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's well, he was really good.
39:16
SPEAKER_11: He he got and he got better as the season went on.
39:19
unknown: Yeah.
39:19
SPEAKER_11: Like I think that was the year they lost to Nebraska.
39:23
SPEAKER_11: Did he lose Nebraska?
39:26
SPEAKER_11: Was that this or was that Texas Amazon?
39:27
SPEAKER_05: That was the year they lost to Texas Amazon.
39:29
SPEAKER_05: On the swinging gate.
39:30
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
39:31
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, because he had like 10 catches that game.
39:33
SPEAKER_05: That was his first, that was his coming out game because I I remember you and I were both at that game, and I remember like, who's number one?
39:40
SPEAKER_05: He's good.
39:41
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
39:42
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
39:42
SPEAKER_11: It was it was it was great to watch him, fun to watch.
39:45
SPEAKER_11: Classy guy.
39:46
SPEAKER_11: Um is he in the college football hall of fame yet?
39:49
SPEAKER_11: I maybe just because he didn't play long enough.
39:52
SPEAKER_11: He'll definitely be in the NFL Hall of Fame.
39:54
SPEAKER_11: For sure.
39:55
SPEAKER_11: And I know he only so I mean that's only a matter of time.
39:58
SPEAKER_11: He hasn't gone in yet.
40:00
SPEAKER_11: So a couple more years, Larry will be in and they just retired his number, I think, at Pitt this last season, I do believe.
40:10
SPEAKER_11: So Larry's uh racking up some uh awards there.
40:14
SPEAKER_11: Had a great had a great year that uh 2008 season almost cost the Steelers their sixth Super Bowl.
40:23
SPEAKER_11: Wish he would have won a Super Bowl, just not against the Steelers, would have been nice.
40:27
SPEAKER_11: But him and Kurt Warner had an unbelievable playoff run.
40:30
SPEAKER_11: But if it would have been anybody but the Steelers, I would have been heartbroken to watch them lose.
40:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and and one final footnote for this one, Steve.
40:39
SPEAKER_05: Uh Insight Enterprises is a global technology company that focuses on B2B and IT for enterprises.
40:47
SPEAKER_05: And they have offices in 19 countries.
40:50
SPEAKER_11: Wow, they're still around.
40:51
SPEAKER_11: So there's I don't think they sponsor any bowls though, so yeah, that's a shame.
40:57
SPEAKER_05: The insight.com bowl was epic.
40:59
SPEAKER_05: I mean, think about how many amazing memories.
41:01
SPEAKER_11: Well, there's a lot of things.
41:02
SPEAKER_05: We could just do a whole episode, Steve, of Insight.com bowl memories, right?
41:06
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
41:07
SPEAKER_11: It's up there with the cotton bowl and the rose bowl and the sugar bowl.
41:11
SPEAKER_05: Those ones are okay, but insight.com, I mean, oof.
41:15
SPEAKER_11: What is business to business?
41:17
SPEAKER_11: I mean, what business business to what are they?
41:20
SPEAKER_11: The yellow pages?
41:20
SPEAKER_11: What are they talking about?
41:24
SPEAKER_11: What a bunch of corporate nonsense.
41:28
SPEAKER_11: Um so moving moving away from corporate nonsense and back to sports.
41:34
SPEAKER_11: Um Turner Ward, does anybody remember that guy?
41:38
SPEAKER_11: I know Tim does.
41:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, one of the one of the many players on the late 90s, early 2000s pirates.
41:47
SPEAKER_05: That I remember how, you know, if you thought the insight.com bowl had a lot of great memories, the late 90s pirates.
41:53
SPEAKER_05: Oh man.
41:54
SPEAKER_11: Well, even in this, even in this highlight, so this is May 3rd, 1998, against the Dodgers.
42:01
SPEAKER_11: Mike Piazza, of all people, hits a fly ball to I'll say right center-ish.
42:06
SPEAKER_11: And Turner Ward literally runs through a wall, the through her stadium wall.
42:12
SPEAKER_11: It wasn't the door, I think it was just part of the wall.
42:16
SPEAKER_11: And he like ran into it, broke the wall.
42:18
SPEAKER_11: I think he hurt his shoulder.
42:20
SPEAKER_11: And uh the problem was the guy on third still scored because I guess Ward couldn't throw the ball back in.
42:28
SPEAKER_11: And um, here we'll play the uh audio of that.
42:33
SPEAKER_07: Two homers in as many days, five on the season, and there's a drive toward right field.
42:37
SPEAKER_07: Turner Ward going over, makes a great dive, and he cuts, and then we lost Turner Ward.
42:44
SPEAKER_07: He goes up and through the wall, apparently.
42:47
SPEAKER_07: One scores on the sacrifice fly, and Ward appears hurt, and obviously, because as we said, we lost him.
42:59
SPEAKER_11: That was just unbelievable.
43:01
SPEAKER_11: He broke the wall.
43:02
SPEAKER_11: He pulled uh he pulled a bump Bailey from the natural who ran into a ran through the wall.
43:07
SPEAKER_05: Bump Bailey didn't survive that though.
43:09
SPEAKER_05: So unfortunately, Turner Ward did.
43:12
SPEAKER_05: And he and he did break it, like you can't obviously you can't see it on the podcast, but it's yeah, shoulder or something.
43:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, if you go look at the play, you'll see that it actually cracks.
43:21
SPEAKER_05: Like the bot, you can see uh like the part that's not padded on the bottom, you can see it's all cracked.
43:27
SPEAKER_05: So he literally broke through the outfield wall.
43:30
SPEAKER_05: And and the worst part about it was it was a sack fly, like you said, so the Dodgers still scored a run.
43:35
SPEAKER_05: Like there was no chance of obviously throwing the guy out from behind the wall.
43:39
SPEAKER_05: So but he got eat Piazza out, so there was that.
43:43
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
43:45
SPEAKER_11: In typical pirates fashion, they lost the game ten to five to the Dodgers.
43:51
SPEAKER_11: Uh I don't think this was the freak show Pirates, was it?
43:55
SPEAKER_05: No, that was the that was the year before.
43:58
SPEAKER_11: So they they're just not And Jermaine Allensworth makes an appearance from center field, like helping Turner Ward out of the out of the whatever like oblivion he went into behind the right field fence.
44:12
SPEAKER_05: Jermaine Allensworth was the guy we talked about in that freak show episode who they did.
44:16
SPEAKER_05: You mentioned Saturday Night Live earlier.
44:18
SPEAKER_05: They did a Saturday Night Live sketch.
44:21
SPEAKER_05: Jermaine Allensworth.
44:22
SPEAKER_05: It was Tracy Morgan played Jermaine Allensworth.
44:26
SPEAKER_05: That's about the only thing I want to remember about that guy.
44:28
SPEAKER_11: I can't do a Tracy Morgan.
44:31
SPEAKER_11: I don't know who I am.
44:32
SPEAKER_11: I don't know.
44:33
SPEAKER_11: I can't do Tracy Morgan.
44:35
SPEAKER_11: Doing Jermaine Allensworth.
44:37
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
44:37
SPEAKER_11: That's like three levels of insanity there.
44:40
SPEAKER_05: You need a lot of comedic practice to nail that one.
44:43
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
44:45
SPEAKER_11: But um, yeah, that's a fun one.
44:47
SPEAKER_11: Uh he ran through the wall.
44:48
SPEAKER_11: At least he lived to tell the tale.
44:49
SPEAKER_11: And the aftermath was, hey, the pirates still sucked for like another 10 years.
44:54
SPEAKER_11: Um, Turner Ward went on to play for the Diamingbacks and Phillies, and then he went into coaching, and now he's the St.
45:00
SPEAKER_11: Louis Cardinals hitting coach.
45:02
SPEAKER_05: So nice.
45:04
SPEAKER_05: Does he teach them how not to run through the wall?
45:06
unknown: Yeah.
45:07
SPEAKER_11: No clue where Jermaine Allensworth is, although I'm pretty sure Tracy Morgan is still on tour somewhere.
45:16
SPEAKER_11: Um we just have Ben evading, Ben Rothelsberger evading play, defenders play.
45:23
SPEAKER_11: There's like about 500 of these plays, so you could like probably pick a better one, but this is probably one of the more influential ones.
45:31
SPEAKER_11: I remember there was one in the Super Bowl 43 where he ran around and threw the Heath Miller for a first down, but he did that like 10 other times too in just regular season games.
45:42
SPEAKER_11: It's just it there's so many to pick from him.
45:45
SPEAKER_11: Here, Tim, we could literally do a whole podcast just on this topic.
45:49
SPEAKER_11: You're right.
45:51
SPEAKER_11: So what makes it incredible is Ben scrambles to the left and then he throws back to the right.
45:56
SPEAKER_11: Like I always like kind of like you're never supposed to throw back to the middle of the field.
46:02
SPEAKER_11: Like now, people do it, like Brett Favre or Patrick Mahomes.
46:06
SPEAKER_11: Although Patrick Mahomes seems to get away with it more than Brett Favre ever did.
46:11
SPEAKER_11: But you know, it it ends up being a touchdown where Santonio Holmes catches the ball in the end zone.
46:17
SPEAKER_11: Hey, sound familiar?
46:19
SPEAKER_11: A little foreshadowing.
46:20
SPEAKER_11: Um he barely he catches it right in the front of the end zone.
46:24
SPEAKER_11: This is ball this game is in Baltimore, and it's 2008.
46:28
SPEAKER_11: And I think he catches it, and you could never tell if it's in or out or what it was.
46:35
SPEAKER_11: I I don't know, Tim.
46:37
SPEAKER_11: I could never tell.
46:38
SPEAKER_11: But they called it in, so or actually they called it at the one first, and then I think replay overturned it to call him in.
46:47
SPEAKER_11: Correct.
46:48
SPEAKER_11: So here we'll play that.
46:55
SPEAKER_09: Rocklesburger.
46:56
SPEAKER_09: First option.
46:56
SPEAKER_09: Shut down.
46:58
SPEAKER_09: Looking for a second.
46:59
SPEAKER_09: A third option.
47:00
SPEAKER_09: Now throws it.
47:01
SPEAKER_09: Mans there.
47:02
SPEAKER_09: Is he in the end zone?
47:03
SPEAKER_10: Is he in or outside?
47:05
SPEAKER_10: They're gonna mark him outside.
47:07
SPEAKER_10: After reviewing the play, the receiver had two feet down in the end zone, with possession of the ball.
47:15
SPEAKER_10: We have a touchdown.
47:16
SPEAKER_11: It's a touchdown for Pittsburgh.
47:20
SPEAKER_11: That's a crazy play.
47:22
SPEAKER_11: I don't know if he scored or not on that one.
47:24
SPEAKER_11: I think we went over it in another podcast, 'cause I remember talking about this play before.
47:29
SPEAKER_11: Did they win the division?
47:30
SPEAKER_11: This won them the division, didn't it?
47:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was a huge play because the AFC championship game is that's the same two teams.
47:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
47:38
SPEAKER_05: And that game's in Pittsburgh because of that throw that you just heard right there.
47:42
SPEAKER_05: And and like you said, Ben just running around buying time, shaking off defenders, like you said, he he did that so many times, but that was probably what did you say, Steve, the most influential or like the the most had the most impact.
47:55
SPEAKER_11: So yeah, that's a good word.
47:58
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, definitely the most impact for that one.
48:02
SPEAKER_11: So um good for Ben.
48:04
SPEAKER_11: Um the aftermath was the Steelers win the division and go on to win the Super Bowl.
48:11
SPEAKER_11: Like you said, beating the Ravens again in the championship game on a Paul Mallow interception.
48:16
SPEAKER_11: Um the Ravens had to wait a couple more years till they finally got their Super Bowl win.
48:22
SPEAKER_11: But so it kind of worked out for everybody in the end.
48:28
SPEAKER_11: Sticking with the Steelers in the Super Bowl, um that would be Lynn Swan Super Bowl X against the Cowboys.
48:38
SPEAKER_11: That would be Super Bowl 10 to everybody that's not Roman.
48:41
SPEAKER_11: Um and the background is the Steelers are in the Super Bowl for the second straight year.
48:47
SPEAKER_11: Well, look at this upstart franchise who's stunk for so many years.
48:51
SPEAKER_11: Now in the Super Bowl every year, Tim.
48:54
SPEAKER_11: What's up with them?
48:55
SPEAKER_11: And so um they're looking to go back to back, and this was the actually the Cowboys' third Super Bowl appearance, but they had won Super Bowl six and Super Bowl five.
49:11
SPEAKER_05: They lost Super Bowl five.
49:13
SPEAKER_11: Did I say win?
49:14
SPEAKER_11: I meant lost, yeah.
49:15
SPEAKER_11: That was the one to the Colts, wasn't it?
49:17
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
49:18
SPEAKER_05: And Jim O'Brien kicked a field goal at the in the final seconds to beat them.
49:21
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
49:22
SPEAKER_11: That was a sloppy Super Bowl, too.
49:23
SPEAKER_11: They it was.
49:25
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
49:26
SPEAKER_11: But so did the Cowboys still have the can't win the big one kind of like they had that for a while, Tom Landry and them.
49:33
SPEAKER_11: I don't know, maybe they had shaken it by then because they had won a Super Bowl.
49:38
SPEAKER_11: But be that as may, this is about Lin Swan, and he makes like this awesome catch, and it's there's one they call like NFL Films calls one the levitating leap, where he leaps up and the ball bounces in the air, and he actually, as he's leaping, he catches the ball.
49:55
SPEAKER_11: And then there's another one they call the kangaroo catch.
49:58
SPEAKER_11: And that was on the sidelines, and he kind of like jumps right on the sideline and into the further into the field of play and catches the ball.
50:07
SPEAKER_11: And both those those catches are pretty good, but here we'll play this clip of that.
50:13
SPEAKER_09: Red shot is big.
50:15
SPEAKER_09: And they're firing down the field.
50:16
SPEAKER_09: Swann going after it, covered.
50:18
SPEAKER_03: And it's shovel.
50:19
SPEAKER_03: Swan catches it on a circus catch inside the Dallas 45-yard line.
50:23
SPEAKER_03: Gets up and goes inside the 40.
50:25
SPEAKER_03: Down to the 37-yard line.
50:27
SPEAKER_03: And a defensive player right on his back.
50:29
SPEAKER_03: It marked Washington.
50:30
SPEAKER_03: And how about that?
50:31
SPEAKER_03: That's two sensational catches in this ball game by a leaping Lynn Swan, the guy who was put out of the Oakland Raiders playoff game with the concussion when they played the bongo drums on his head.
50:42
SPEAKER_03: There were thoughts that he would be well, he might hear footsteps today.
50:45
SPEAKER_03: He's been great.
50:47
SPEAKER_11: Lynn Swan was great in that game.
50:49
SPEAKER_11: And like Myron obviously mentioning he I guess this was after the kangaroo catch game.
50:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he he uh yeah, he made that one along the sidelines, and then he made one later in the fourth quarter for a touchdown.
51:04
SPEAKER_05: But uh what Myron was talking about was the AFC championship game.
51:07
SPEAKER_05: He got knocked out of that game, I think, by Jack Tatum.
51:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and so there were some questions about could he even play?
51:14
SPEAKER_05: And then if he was gonna play, I guess what Myron was alluding to there, you know, is he gonna be like gunkai because he's you know hearing footsteps kind of thing, and obviously he he was fine.
51:27
SPEAKER_11: Obviously.
51:29
SPEAKER_11: And to his credit, he became um NFL he became Super Bowl MVP for that for Super Bowl 10.
51:36
SPEAKER_05: So how many times did they play that clip over the years?
51:40
SPEAKER_11: I mean it's been a lot.
51:42
SPEAKER_11: But that's probably one of the catches that got him into the Hall of Fame.
51:45
SPEAKER_11: Probably quite honestly.
51:47
SPEAKER_05: Well, I always thought it was hypocritical.
51:49
SPEAKER_05: Whenever whenever you know, there was that debate for a long time, should he or shouldn't he be in the Hall of Fame and they finally elected him.
51:56
SPEAKER_05: But I always thought it was so hypocritical.
51:57
SPEAKER_05: It's like, well, he doesn't have the numbers or he doesn't have this.
52:00
SPEAKER_05: But then they're always showing his catches over and over again.
52:04
SPEAKER_05: It's like, well, what then, you know, how how can you say he's not one of the great players of all time when you're constantly showing his highlights?
52:11
SPEAKER_11: So it was named the fifth greatest catch in NFL history by the NFL network.
52:18
SPEAKER_11: It's very graceful, like Swan, it kind of matched his name.
52:21
SPEAKER_11: He like uh I think he he like actually trained in ballet ballet, believe it or not, even when he was still in the NFL, just like wasn't when he was a little kid.
52:31
SPEAKER_11: So he had to work on his footwork there.
52:34
SPEAKER_11: So um the aftermath, the Steelers beat the Cry Boys, and then they beat him again in Super Bowl 13, and they prove it wasn't a fluke, and the Cowboys still cry about it to this day, which is just great that them and the Raiders can't get over it.
52:50
SPEAKER_11: But the Steelers have a dynasty of the 70s, and the Cowboys just have a pretty good team.
52:57
SPEAKER_11: So uh moving back to hockey, um, Mario scoring from the face-off.
53:07
SPEAKER_11: How would you score from a face-off, Tim?
53:09
SPEAKER_11: It sounds impossible.
53:10
SPEAKER_11: Well, apparently Mario had been trying it for years, and he just thought he needed a lucky bounce, and he got that lucky bounce against the game in Buffalo doing during the 2002-2003 season.
53:22
SPEAKER_11: Um he had actually had a running bet with uh radio host Mark Madden.
53:26
SPEAKER_11: Madden said he couldn't do it.
53:28
SPEAKER_11: And originally the bet was supposed to be for$66, but then when Mario did it, they up well actually before that they upped the bet to$6,600 and Mark donated to his word, donated$6,000 to the uh Mary Lemieux Foundation.
53:45
SPEAKER_11: So here we'll uh play the clip of that.
53:53
SPEAKER_08: They're making the face top Lamua scored against Narona.
53:57
SPEAKER_08: The Penguins have a three-two lead.
54:00
SPEAKER_08: Do you believe it?
54:01
SPEAKER_08: The Pittsburgh Penguins have the lead.
54:04
SPEAKER_08: Oh, Michael, Michael Motors Michael.
54:08
SPEAKER_11: That was kind of a forgettable season for the Penguins.
54:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was a lot of forgettable seasons around that time, 2003.
54:17
SPEAKER_11: And that was the end of his career, and he was playing with nobodies because the Penguins had to had to trade away all their good players and Yeah, they they had traded Kovalev back to the Rangers, and Martin Straka got injured.
54:30
SPEAKER_05: Jagger had been traded that offseason.
54:32
SPEAKER_05: So it was it was you know, it it it kind of sunk to watch Mario have to finish his career out like that, but man, it's like even even that late in his career playing on a garbage team, he's still able to make these plays.
54:46
SPEAKER_05: Like like we said earlier, you we could have just we could just do a whole podcast on amazing Mario goals.
54:53
SPEAKER_11: That's for sure.
54:55
SPEAKER_11: I mean, that was a lot of fun, and I like and the team did start rebuilding because I think they drafted Flurry that offseason.
55:02
SPEAKER_11: So the rebuild begins.
55:04
SPEAKER_11: And then the lockout after lockout, they started uh well, it took them another year, but then they started the lock rebuild in earnest.
55:12
SPEAKER_11: So um so that's our list.
55:16
SPEAKER_11: That's the list.
55:17
SPEAKER_11: Um what would be your favorite one on the list here, Tim?
55:22
SPEAKER_05: Oh boy, that's that's a tough question.
55:24
SPEAKER_05: Um I I I might put the Darell Revis punt return.
55:29
SPEAKER_05: Like I said, just being there, the energy in the stadium, the the you know, the fact that you didn't have a lot to care for at that point.
55:37
SPEAKER_05: And um, it's just one of those plays that like you still remember all these years later.
55:42
SPEAKER_05: And when you're just thinking of great plays, that one always comes to mind.
55:45
SPEAKER_05: So I'd I'd probably do that one.
55:47
SPEAKER_11: That's a good one.
55:49
SPEAKER_11: Always like the uh the Larry catch, even though I was in the I was actually did not see the Larry Catch happen live.
55:55
SPEAKER_11: I was in the bathroom.
55:57
SPEAKER_11: So I missed the nice.
55:59
SPEAKER_11: I pulled a Art Rooney, I missed the play.
56:02
SPEAKER_11: But that that's probably my one of my favorite catches of all time.
56:05
SPEAKER_11: That's a fun one.
56:07
SPEAKER_11: Although the Ben running around and beating the Ravens one is is probably my favorite.
56:11
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, that's a good one too.
56:14
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56:23
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56:30
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56:34
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