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The Next Round: Alabama vs. LSU Showdown, College Football Playoff Chaos & Clay Travis · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. Another day of the next round. Local Lance Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Brown. Jim Dunaway continuing his Irish vacation. He'll
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  Speaker 1: be back with us next week. Right now, fake Dunaway
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  Speaker 1: sporting that hard rock bats helmet. Tyler Johns here. Scott
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  Speaker 1: Forrester here. Brooks Carter stepping away for a couple days.
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  Speaker 1: We are glad to be with you and we have
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  Speaker 1: got a lot to get to. Clay Travis coming up
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  Speaker 1: on the show. We're going to try to build the
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  Speaker 1: most absurd college football bracket that you realistically could build.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's some absurdities of teams that are still alive
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  Speaker 1: that if we just built the bracket with those teams
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  Speaker 1: here halfway through the season, it would be crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you as absurd as it's going to be,
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  Speaker 3: if these teams win a key game here or there,
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  Speaker 3: I think these teams are really in the college football playoff.
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  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. Like we're going to put
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  Speaker 1: teams in what we're going to call an absurd bracket
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  Speaker 1: that are actually in the bracket.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be in there eventually. Um, so we're
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  Speaker 1: going to do that later in the show also. Um,
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  Speaker 1: The group of six coaches on their own playoff. A
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  Speaker 1: number that might surprise you about them separating away, which
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  Speaker 1: I've always thought is going to happen anyway, and doing
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  Speaker 1: their own playoff. But first, we generally start this show
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  Speaker 1: with what we last saw. And last night, that was
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  Speaker 1: the World Series coming to a close in Game 5.
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  Speaker 1: The old gentlemen sweep as the Milwaukee Brewers Who were
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  Speaker 1: the best team in this postseason? There's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: And they finish off the World Series by beating the
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  Speaker 1: Raisin 5 down in Tampa.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 11-2 in the postseason. And in their 58th year
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  Speaker 3: of existence as the Milwaukee Brewers, they win their first
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  Speaker 3: ever World Series championship. They blew a 3-1 lead in
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  Speaker 3: Game 7 back in 1982 against the Cardinals. They close
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  Speaker 3: it out here. You had your ace, Jacob Bezeroski, on
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  Speaker 3: the hill last night. I mean, consistently hitting 102 or 103.
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  Speaker 3: I had my buddy Chris send me a text. He
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  Speaker 3: was like, If you knew 20 straight fastballs were coming,
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  Speaker 3: do you think you could foul one off?
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute now. So 20 straight fastballs from the Miz,
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  Speaker 1: and you knew that's what he was throwing. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so let me quickly, before we get to that. Years ago,
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  Speaker 1: on the radio side, I think it was Dunaway that
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  Speaker 1: said he could return a Serena Williams serve one out
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  Speaker 1: of 100. Inbounds return a serve. Do you remember that argument?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, you wouldn't see the first 20. Like
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  Speaker 1: the first 20 would be by you before you could
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  Speaker 1: even get the racket in your hand.
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  Speaker 3: Much easier to do that than this.
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  Speaker 5: Much easier.
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  Speaker 1: I would agree, but I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: The circumference of the racket, like if you can even
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  Speaker 3: find a general area just to put and just the
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  Speaker 3: velocity from the serve would put it back over the net.
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  Speaker 3: Whether it be in or not, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. You've got to get it in,
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  Speaker 1: over the net and in. I had a really good
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  Speaker 1: tennis player, an advanced tennis player, text me, I'll never
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  Speaker 1: forget during that show, and said if she just used
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  Speaker 1: her kick serve the whole time, Dunaway couldn't touch it.
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  Speaker 1: And we were like, what's a kick serve? What's a
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  Speaker 1: kick serve? And he's like, exactly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If she used her kick serve. I told him 20
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  Speaker 3: years ago, yes. Reflexes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not now. No, I said then I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: he could return one out of 100. So I get
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  Speaker 1: 20 Miz fastballs, and I've got to what? Get one
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  Speaker 1: in play? No, you've just got to make contact. Foul ball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is you and I have never
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  Speaker 1: seen pitching like that ever. So the first 10, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be like.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've gotten in the cage and I've seen 95.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And 95 is like a whole nother world. To see 102, 103,
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  Speaker 3: like I think I'd be so terrified of one of
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  Speaker 3: those fastballs just getting away in the hole that it
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  Speaker 3: would put through you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I was in college, I used to
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  Speaker 1: run the batting cages at Woodland Park Batting Cages. Friend
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  Speaker 1: of the family, Mike Burford, owned them. And he paid
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  Speaker 1: me to just run them. He didn't want to deal
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  Speaker 1: with it. He wanted me to run them, right? That
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even real baseballs. It was kind of those waffle balls.
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  Speaker 1: Those rubbery waffle balls. But the highest speed was 80,
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  Speaker 1: but on the machine you could calibrate it to go faster.
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  Speaker 1: But the problem is.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't know where it was going.
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  Speaker 1: The faster it got, the wilder it got. So my
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  Speaker 1: buddies would come up and be like, turn it up
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  Speaker 1: as high as it'll go. And I'm like, I will,
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  Speaker 1: but one's going to catch you in the temple at
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  Speaker 1: some point. I'm sure Mr. Burford was like, oh, great,
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  Speaker 1: I got insurance.
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  Speaker 3: Liability back in the early 90s, a little bit different
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  Speaker 3: than it is now.
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  Speaker 1: But you'd crank it up, and just nobody in the
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  Speaker 1: box would crank it up and drop the ball in there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's insanity. And I don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: that was really 90 miles an hour. It said it was.
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  Speaker 1: But it was fast.
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  Speaker 3: But, I mean, look, this 102-103, watching him throw, it's
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  Speaker 3: just incredible. He goes five and two-thirds scoreless, only gives
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  Speaker 3: up a couple of hits. Wasn't as dominant as he
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  Speaker 3: had been, but just enough, and the Brewers– you know,
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  Speaker 3: get this one.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: If it would have gone back to Milwaukee game six
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  Speaker 3: after Mizoroski, maybe losing this and not having a great performance.
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  Speaker 3: I think the pressure then flips, but the brewers are
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  Speaker 3: able to get it done. And, um, Contreras is your MVP,
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  Speaker 3: the eighth catcher to win the world series MVP.
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  Speaker 1: The second former brave in a row, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: because Freddie Freeman won it last year.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I saw, I think Dave O'Brien, David, David O'Brien day.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he goes by Dave or David.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how formal he is. Um, tweeted that
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  Speaker 1: like okay well then who's the next former brave that's
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  Speaker 1: going to win the mvp in the world series what
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  Speaker 1: are the options uh he threw some out like dansby
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  Speaker 1: swanson was one um who's the other one he threw
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  Speaker 1: out he threw out one more i don't know obviously
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  Speaker 1: brace fans hope it's a current brave that wins it
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  Speaker 1: but uh anyway um so yeah contreras wins the mvp
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  Speaker 1: If they had made it back to Milwaukee, you want
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  Speaker 1: me to show you what was waiting on them?
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  Speaker 3: Please.
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  Speaker 1: Scott, show me this this morning. Look at this video.
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  Speaker 1: This is in whatever their stadium is. Look at the
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  Speaker 1: size of this crowd just watching the game on the screen.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're seeing right behind home plate. Wait till they
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  Speaker 1: pan this thing.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Well, as they pan it, you know, watching the last
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  Speaker 3: couple of nights at Tropicana.
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  Speaker 1: Watch this.
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  Speaker 5: Watch this.
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  Speaker 1: Watch when they pan right here. Look, the entire upper
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  Speaker 1: deck filled, the entire lower area filled, except for the
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  Speaker 1: where you cannot see the screen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just looking for a party.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane.
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  Speaker 3: But what was insane is how many Brewers fans have
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  Speaker 3: been in the crowd. And I guess it was just
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  Speaker 3: much cheaper to go to Tampa, purchase a ticket there,
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  Speaker 3: than actually get a ticket there.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it was impossible to get a ticket in Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: That's the crowd for, and they're just watching the game
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  Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, what about the guy that held out
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  Speaker 1: with the golden ticket?
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Oh, I know.
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  Speaker 1: He was waiting for game six or seven, the anytime ticket.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever see a list of people that were
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  Speaker 1: holding out? I never saw a follow-up on that story,
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  Speaker 1: but I would imagine there probably, wouldn't you have held
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  Speaker 1: it for game six or seven? I mean, if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to hold out, yeah. If you're going to hold out,
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  Speaker 1: you may as well hold out for a big one.
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  Speaker 1: One more connection on this, a connection to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations to a friend of the show, Brett McCabe, who
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  Speaker 1: was a sports psychologist for the Milwaukee Brewers. Brett lives
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  Speaker 1: here in Birmingham. and has been a personal friend of
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  Speaker 1: ours for a very long time and has done some
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  Speaker 1: work here on the platform. You want to hear something
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  Speaker 1: last night?
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  Speaker 3: I talked to Brett McCabe this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Did you really? Did he even tell you this?
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  Speaker 3: He did not. We were talking about something. He sent
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  Speaker 3: me this photo like 5.30 this morning. Yeah, completely different,
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  Speaker 3: but he was just getting off a plane. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: even ask him where he was because I know that
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  Speaker 3: he is... from golfers to pitchers.
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  Speaker 1: To obviously Alabama's team. That is wild.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So Brett, he texted me this this morning. I think
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  Speaker 1: I got the text. It was probably like 6 something.
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  Speaker 1: I said 5.30. I think it was after 6. And
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  Speaker 1: I said, are you A, just going to bed, B,
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  Speaker 1: just waking up, or C, you don't remember? And he said,
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  Speaker 1: I slept for two hours. He actually did this with
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers last year. He was part of the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: group last year. And he said, I learned my lesson there.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead and grab two hours of sleep at least.
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  Speaker 1: So he was flying back to Birmingham this morning from Tampa.
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  Speaker 3: What a wild career he's got.
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  Speaker 1: He does, man. That guy is, I mean, like he'll
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  Speaker 1: randomly text me.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I got a text from SoFi of the
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  Speaker 3: Bills-Rams game a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: He was in the end zone.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, was he really?
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  Speaker 1: Who was he working with, the Bills or the Rams?
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  Speaker 3: I don't ask, you know. I guess it is privileged, right?
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes, I guess. I mean, I think generally when he's
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  Speaker 1: working with teams.
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  Speaker 3: If he was working with the Rams kickers, we got
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  Speaker 3: a problem.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. Generally, when he's working with teams, he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mind it. But sometimes I think when it's an individual,
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  Speaker 1: he'd prefer that be a little more privileged information, to
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  Speaker 1: your point. But, no, he was working with the Milwaukee Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: He said that on social media, so he wasn't exactly
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  Speaker 1: trying to hide it. But that's pretty cool to stand
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  Speaker 1: there and hold that trophy. Yeah, really cool. Brett McCabe,
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  Speaker 1: former LSU pitcher, so he's a baseball guy, but working
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  Speaker 1: with the Milwaukee Brewers, lives here in Birmingham, friend of ours,
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  Speaker 1: so congrats to him as well.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine how much Bob Euchre would have enjoyed
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  Speaker 3: that last night?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I had not even, and this is just
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  Speaker 1: me not being a huge baseball guy, I had not
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  Speaker 1: even thought about it until the postgame last night when
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  Speaker 1: they were like, man, this is for you, Euchre, and
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty cool, the interview with, was
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  Speaker 1: it Christian Jelic that said it, I think?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jelic has been there so freaking long.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the longest-tenured brewer. I think the second-longest-tenured brewer
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  Speaker 1: in brewer's history, if I'm not mistaken. And finally got
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  Speaker 1: to lift that trophy, and he was one of the
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  Speaker 1: first ones to say it. Like, man, Euchre would have
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  Speaker 1: loved this. What if he had been around? That would
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  Speaker 1: have been awesome, wouldn't it?
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  Speaker 3: That would have been incredible. But, you know, Yellich, only
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  Speaker 3: 34 years old.
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  Speaker 1: He's only 34?
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  Speaker 3: That is old, I guess, in baseball terms. But he,
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  Speaker 3: you know, for the first five years was with the
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  Speaker 3: Marlins in the last.
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  Speaker 1: Nine years with Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Great player back in the day. Still very, very solid.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Nick, that's a pretty funny line. Nick said, I saw
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  Speaker 1: somebody say if they didn't give the MVP to Contreras,
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  Speaker 1: he was just going to tap his helmet until they
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  Speaker 1: reviewed it and got it right.
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  Speaker 3: Had a five-game series record 11 hit. So there could
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  Speaker 3: have been maybe three different directions they could have gone in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess Contreras was the right direction there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he declared himself the greatest catcher in the world.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. If you're the greatest catcher in the world,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a shot at being the World Series MVP.
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  Speaker 1: So that does it for baseball for How Long We
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  Speaker 1: Do Not Know. The fear is for more than a year.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that is not the case.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I had dinner with our buddy Will
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  Speaker 3: Haver last night. And we were talking about the series
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  Speaker 3: that was just starting when we were finishing dinner. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, who are you pulling for? And he
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: was like, well, I was pulling for the Brewers, but
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  Speaker 3: now I'm pulling for the Rays. He was like, I
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  Speaker 3: want to extend this and get it to seven games.
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  Speaker 3: So he's a baseball guy and wants to watch as
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  Speaker 3: much baseball because there is that fear next year that
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: we talked about. There will be a lockout, which you've
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  Speaker 3: got plenty of time to have more reasonable minds figure
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  Speaker 3: this thing out. But, I mean, they seem miles and
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  Speaker 3: miles apart.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. It's just crazier than in October. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what the major issues are right now.
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  Speaker 1: I see your Dodgers getting blamed for a lot of it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: And not necessarily they're just playing by the– the rules
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  Speaker 1: that are allowed to play. I think it's not really
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers that are the problem. It's the rules that
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: are the problem, right? And the Dodgers just taking advantage
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  Speaker 1: of those rules. Yeah, I mean, they've got the money
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  Speaker 1: to spend. That's right. But the problem is they're not
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  Speaker 1: spending it right now. They're spending it 20 years from now,
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: and there's your problem, I think, for.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you defer that, like, to me, it was
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  Speaker 3: getting really, really creative, especially with the Shohei deal.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, other markets could do it. They could, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt. There's nothing that stops them
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  Speaker 1: from doing it. But I think a lot of baseball
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  Speaker 1: people are like, we need to stop this train before
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: it leaves the station any further than it has. I
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: think that's going to be your issue.
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  Speaker 3: And I understand that. I don't know how you do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds good on the surface.
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  Speaker 5: It does.
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  Speaker 3: But I need to see a plan.
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  Speaker 1: But it is wild to me that we are October
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  Speaker 1: 29th and pitchers and catchers would report late February. Is
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  Speaker 1: that right?
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And we're already saying, oh, there's going to be a lockout.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of time that we could find some
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: common ground enough to get a season going. But it's
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: just amazing that they're already like, oh, that's not happening.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you've got 100 days.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't anticipate they'll start meeting tomorrow. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people want to sleep in for a
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  Speaker 1: couple days. But still, it's wild to me that on
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  Speaker 1: October 29th, we're already saying, oh, next February ain't happening.
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  Speaker 1: There'll be no pitchers and catchers reporting. All right, so
• 12:06
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  Speaker 1: nine in the NBA, 11 in the NFL that have
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: not won a championship. So I want to go through
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: each of these sports. And you tell me who do
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: you think the next one is to get their first championship, okay?
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've already got my answer, but... Major League Baseball,
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: you've got Seattle, San Diego, Tampa, and Colorado. San Diego, Seattle, Tampa,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: and Colorado. That is correct. Those teams have never won
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: a world championship.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, Tampa hasn't been in existence long, and they've
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: already been to three World Series.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're closer than any of these.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: Seattle was really close last year. I thought Seattle was
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: going to be last year's Milwaukee from this year.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: And Seattle's been close historically. I don't know that I
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: would say Colorado's certainly not been close. San Diego hasn't.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: San Diego's been close.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess they've been in the World Series. Yeah.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Back in the Trevor Hoffman days, right?
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were in the World Series in 1996. Yeah.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: 97.
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: 98.
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the 90s.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Tony Gwynn's Padres against the Yankees. I
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: will go Seattle. I don't feel good about it.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Wait, so.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: The only one I really don't feel good about is Colorado.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: I think Tampa, Seattle, and San Diego.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Tampa literally was just in the World Series.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: And San Diego spends money. Seattle spends a little money too,
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: but I would go Seattle.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Seattle. It's going to be your answer there.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: In the NBA, these teams have never won a world championship.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: The Brooklyn Nets, Charlotte Hornets, Indiana Pacers, Los Angeles Clippers,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies, Minnesota Timberwolves, New Orleans, Orlando Magic, Phoenix Suns,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: and Utah Jazz.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I would go Pacers or T-Wolves. Pacers in the NBA
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Finals two years ago. T-Wolves in the Western Conference Final
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: two years ago. Dismantled a little bit. I'm going to
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: go Pacers.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, Pacers there. In the NFL, the Cardinals, the Falcons,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: the Bills, the Panthers, the Bengals, the Browns, the Lions,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: the Texans, the Jags, the Chargers... The Vikings and the
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Titans have never won a Super Bowl.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Well, the Vikings are undefeated right now.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: They are undefeated right now, and they've been to more Super... Well,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: them and Buffalo have been to more Super Bowls than
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: any of them. They've both been to four, right? Vikings
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: and Buffalo?
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: But just because of Buffalo's quarterback situation with the best
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: player on the planet, Josh Allen, I've got to go
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Buffalo right now.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: You're going against a tortured history right there.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: And have you seen the new reality show that's out
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: on the Bills?
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I've seen the commercial about it, and I'm like, I
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: do not like the Bills one bit. As a Dolphins fan,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if I can watch it.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: I almost jumped in, but I think it's going to
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: be a lot of the same thing about, you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: my grandfather died, and I wear this jersey, and then
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: it's going to be the guy that jumps into flames.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: On the day we.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Got married, we put in our wedding vows for better
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: or for worse, whether the Bills won the Super Bowl
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: or not. It's going to be a lot of stuff
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: like that I want to mention.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: So I did not turn it on. But with all
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: that said, they are jinxed. I met a that wedding
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I was at last month.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: I met the.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Diehard Bills fan. They live and die by the Bills.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, you've got a miserable existence because whatever
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: is going right ends up going wrong at the end.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: It is remarkable the ways they have missed just playing
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: But I'm still going to stick with it because we
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: have seen in our lifetime now the Cubs win a
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: World Series championship.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: You know, Ben is right. What about a Vikings-Bills Super Bowl?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: One of them finally gets to break the drought.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'd be in the stands. It's
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: no telling.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It could be the end of times. Yeah. Vikings-Bills Super Bowl.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Doesn't sound safe.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like Arizona, they're not particularly close, right?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Atlanta really isn't. Carolina's close. Kind of close.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know about close.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I guess when you do this, you're like, do they
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: have a good enough quarterback to win a Super Bowl?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Arizona does it. Atlanta I don't think does. Carolina, jury
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: is out, but I don't think they do. I don't know.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Bryce at times looks like that guy.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: He's second in the NFL in passing yards right now.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: 285 per game.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Their fifth in points scored at 26.5. They hosted a
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: playoff game last year, albeit it wasn't a great Carolina team,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: but They had the Rams on the ropes. I mean,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: it was a touchdown within the final minute that sent
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: the Rams on to the divisional round. So Carolina was
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: really close to winning a postseason game last year. They're
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: 3-3 big game tonight in Green Bay. I don't think
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: they're really close. Minnesota's defense is a championship defense. Statistically,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: the best defense since the 2000 Ravens.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And the Buffalo Bills have the greatest player. Cincinnati certainly
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: has a quarterback that can get them to a Super Bowl.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: He's done it once already. I would think he's good
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: enough to win a Super Bowl. If you can get there,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you should be good enough to win it, right?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Bengals are the mix because they
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: could easily. I think some people believe they're going to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: win the NFC North. The NFC North is wide open
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: right now. Lamar Jackson, full participant in practice yesterday, should
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: be back after a month-long injury kept him out.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: More on that coming up.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, going against the Bills this weekend. I don't know
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: who I lean in that division. I sure as I
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: don't lean Pittsburgh or Cleveland. So it is one of
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: those two. And maybe I do lean Cincinnati to win
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: that division.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Cleveland does not have a quarterback good enough to win
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the Superbowl. He's Deshaun Watson's playing better, but he, I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: don't think he's a Superbowl winning quarterback. Detroit does.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you put, this is no exaggeration. If
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: you put Josh Allen on Cleveland's team, Cleveland would be
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: maybe your favorite.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Well, they're four and two right now. Five and two,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: five and two, excuse me, five and two with Deshaun Watson. Um,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Detroit's got a quarterback that could win the Super Bowl. Heck,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: he got his team to the Super Bowl when he
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: was quarterback for the Rams. So I think Jared Goff
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: could win.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: A Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: You just wonder if their defense can hold up statistically.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Houston, do they have a Super Bowl winning quarterback?
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: They probably do not. We saw that last year.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Can I throw a number out for you real quick?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Hang on, let me finish this. Jacksonville?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville could, yes.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: You think they've got a quarterback? You think Trevor Lawrence
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: is good enough to win them? I'm going to laugh
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: when I say this. The Chargers don't. I mean, Justin
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Herbert seems to have the skill set, but he's not
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl winning quarterback. I can't win big games.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Right now I can't win any games.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: You've got to win a postseason game first, right?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Minnesota doesn't have a quarterback that can win a Super Bowl.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: They've got a defense that could get you there, though.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And Tennessee, I don't think, does. So when you do
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the NFL, it's way easier just to say, does this
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: team currently have the quarterback that can win a Super Bowl?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: All right, on the NFL.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: No, I was just going to throw out and see
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: if you could answer this trivia question on the fly.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Is there a prize?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Whatever you want, Brown.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Okay. Here we go.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I am going to combine, and the NFL conversation is
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: what sparked this because I meant to do it today
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: on the fly. Just see if you can do this.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Of all starting FBS quarterbacks and all starting NFL quarterbacks,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: only one has yet to throw an interception all year.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Of all starting NFL and college quarterbacks, there's one quarterback
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that hasn't thrown an interception?
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Immediately, I would be inclined to guess Mensah. Although, the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: fact that you include the NFL tells me there's an
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: NFL quarterback that hasn't thrown an interception, which is pretty
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: remarkable midway through the season.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm talking about full-time starters that have played
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: every game.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, full-time starters that have played every game. On the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: college level, I would either want to say Mensah or Atkinson.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Has not thrown an interception. On the NFL level, gosh,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I don't even know where I'd go. I have no
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: earthly idea.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Who is it?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Mensah has thrown one, by the way.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: He's thrown one?
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: How many has Atkinson thrown? Has he thrown more than
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I think? He has thrown two. Two?
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't think he had thrown many.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Jared Goff is your answer.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, Jared Goff. In the NFL, you would have
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: guessed college on that one. I think I would have.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I probably would have.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're throwing in bigger windows in college than
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: you are in the NFL. So Jared Goff is the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: only quarterback in football that has thrown a pick.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: 14 touchdowns, no picks.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: That's pretty efficient.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very efficient.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, but, you know, Mensa, 22 touchdowns, only one pick. Atkinson,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: 24 touchdowns, only two picks.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Pretty efficient on both of those guys, too.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: It really is.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Ball barely touches the ground for either one of them.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: In college football, I could only find three that I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: would say are major enough programs that you would think,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: how have they not won a championship? And one of
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: these is borderline. They've only been major for 20 years now.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: You're talking about Oregon's got to be one of them.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Oregon is one of them. But there were only three
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I could find that are major enough, you could say,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: how have they not won a modern-day national championship? Texas
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: A & M. They won one. They claim one in 39.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So when I say modern day, we're at least going
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to go after World War II. Texas A & M, Oregon,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if I would call Utah. I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'd put Utah in this category or not.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: They've never won one. But I don't know if I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: would put them in a category where I would say,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you look at that program like, how have they not
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: won a national championship?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I do think that they're very, very new money. And
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: not even new money is like we. I don't think
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: people ever take them seriously as a big-time program.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Utah?
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And maybe it's just because you.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Jump around from Mountain West, Pac-12.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been in a bunch of conferences down to
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the Big 12 recently, yeah. But A & M is probably– well,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Oregon's a pretty big head-scratcher. A & M and Oregon
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: probably are the same.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: A & M, historically and based on resources– But if
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: you want to know what Oregon was lining up for
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: over the last quarter of a century, to not have
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: one is pretty crazy.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if I just took you back to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: probably the 2010 National Championship game, Auburn and Oregon playing
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: in the desert, and told you... We're going to play 16,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: 17 more college football seasons, and Oregon's not going to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: win a national championship. You're going to be like, you're crazy.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: It's been hard to believe.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: This team is on a trajectory to win one.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: By the way, this Oregon team in 2010 is not
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: going to be in the Pac-12. They're going to go
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: to the Big Ten.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That's even crazier.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: And by the way, Indiana, which you never see on
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: TV because it's the worst– statistic program in the history
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: of college football is going to win one and maybe
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: win back to back.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: No none of that makes any sense it doesn't make
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: any sense with A & M and I have harped
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: on this there's no program that has won more games
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and has less to show for it than Texas A &
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: M they've barely won conference championships much less a national
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: yeah it's crazy and they've never really been close to
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a national championship in our lifetime have they I can't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: think of a time.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, the closest I would say, personally, was 2011,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: where they ended up being, no, was it 12?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: 12, where Manziel beat Alabama, they beat Oklahoma in the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they ended up going to.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: The Cotton Bowl. Still a two-loss team, though.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think at that point they were probably the
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: second-best team.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: They were a two-loss team, but they were probably... Because,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you know, they were better than Notre Dame. Alabama, Georgia,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and Texas A & M were probably your best teams
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: in the country that year. At the end of the year.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, that would have been the close. Like
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: a 12-team playoff, nobody would have wanted to play Johnny Mendoza.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: No, they got hot late. Yeah, they got hot late.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: And so that is kind of the advantage of having
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: an extended playoff when you look at teams like Texas
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: A & M and the way they were playing.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: It's just remarkable what all you have at Texas A &
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: M resource-wise, facility-wise. player availability wise, and you've never won
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: a national championship. It just, it really makes no sense.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It does not. It does not. Unless we just overvalue
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: all those things, which maybe we do.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get to. Mick Gillespie is
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: going to jump in with us a little bit. Mick's
• 25:08
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• 25:10
  Speaker 1: with him and, um, continue. We're going to, we're going
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: to try to bracket a crazy playoff and also, um,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Paint the chaos. I mean, it seems like every weekend
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: we get chaos. So I'm going to throw some games
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: at you and we'll go how close to chaos can
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: we get with these games. That is all coming up
• 25:29
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that means I get a Saturday off.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: That's right, a Saturday off. You can sleep in.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: You got that wet mullet right now.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: It's all one length, pal. But mullets are cool, pal.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: Mullets are cool now.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Are mullets back in?
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: They're in, yeah, for the young kids.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: They are.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: If you go to any of these, like, if you
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: go to Nashville, like, every guy up there has got
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: a mullet and a mustache.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: A lot of the guys have the shaved or the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: lower shaved side and the thicker mullet.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I had one of those.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: Truth be told, when I got into the KAs as
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: a college student in Alabama, they were like, you've got
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: to cut your mullet. I didn't even know what a
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: mullet was. I played lacrosse, and that's how we.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: All had our hair.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, yeah, cut it. And you're
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: not like some Milton Hillbilly. You grew up in Maryland.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: He's a carpetbag. Yeah, he's a Yankee.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: One of a kind, right?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: And everybody had them, and then the term mullet just
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: insulted a great style, you know, a business on top,
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: party on the back.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I told this story when we were, so it'll be
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: maybe a month ago this coming Friday, we were in Innisfree.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And we were doing the show, and Trip Rogers came on.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And you know Trip well because you do your show
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: from there.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: All the time.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: But when I first met him, he was a lacrosse
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: guy from Maryland with a mullet.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: I know. I've known him for 30 years. Shout out
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: to Snead. I was supposed to do the post-game show
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: there on Saturday. I ended up doing it at your house.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Go to NS3 and spend a lot of money.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a story behind that, how it ended
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: up at NS3, but it stayed at S's house.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: I was going to sit in the box, and my
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: buddy gave one of his kids and wanted to go,
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: and it's like, what are you going to do? I
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: don't care about that. I like watching them on TV.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you on that. Hey, we're going
• 28:08
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• 28:10
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  Speaker 1: pursuit of a more perfect mortgage. We've been getting chaos
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: every weekend, and I find it fun. Like, I enjoy
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the chaos. Now, to that point. See, I don't think Mick,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Mick's an old school band. I know what he wants.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: You know, I saw our buddy Brian Passick the other
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: night who does color for Alabama basketball. Former Alabama point guard.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And he's like, we were discussing today's college football. He's like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I don't like it. I like the traditional.
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm sure you do. You like winning
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: every week.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: You like being up 35-3 at halftime every week, and
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: that's what you like, right?
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: I love that. If it's us ahead. There's something to
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: be said for excellence, and we saw a lot of that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: It's been cool watching the Saban documentary. It kind of
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: brings me back to, The days when we had Shula
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: and it was like this, this really feels like the Shula.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: It does.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: It feels a lot like the Shula.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: It was nothing like this.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: How does this feel like Shula?
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: The inconsistencies week to week.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Alabama is number 10 in the country. But Shula didn't.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: Have– he had to deal with all the restrictions and scholarships.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: But it was just– we're just inconsistent.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: They lose two games a year now. They're number 10
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: in the country.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Every time I see Coach DeBoer on without his hat on,
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: it reminds me of– of Coach DuBose. Oh, my God.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: What are we doing here?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: No, this is what you– have you not talked to
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Alabama fans lately? I have, but this is insanity. Mike DuBose–
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: They look alike. Mike DuBose didn't know there was a
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: top ten. Mike Shula only visited the top ten.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: He won an SEC championship game in 99.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: That is a good point.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, can you just give me this real quick?
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Because you talk about them every week, and this is
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: the team you follow.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Year one of DuBose to year two, was the year
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: two team better?
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, look, I think he's a good coach. I'm
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: not trying to fire him or anything.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I know, but can you just answer that question? Year
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: one to year two, year two better?
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: I think pretty much the same to me.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Well, they did win double-digit games from year one to
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: year two.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Played for the SEC Championship and went to the playoffs.
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: But it's the same thing. I mean, it's been about
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: the same.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: So what about last year to this year? Is this
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: team better?
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: When they're healthy, you know, yeah. I mean, I think
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: they're slightly better, but. if they don't run the football,
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: you can forget about winning any big games.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: You can just forget about it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I think it's an unknown right now.
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: But, I mean, look, when you're 125th in running offense
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: and then you give your running backs 13 carries for
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: a game, you're not winning in this conference. I mean,
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: you can go out west, and I know you've got
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: the Arizona State hat on. That probably works out there.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: In this conference, when you're not balanced, you don't win.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: And I guess my biggest gripe is somebody's got to say,
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: like Saban, you know, he used to say, we're going
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: to run the ball. We've got to be more balanced.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: He pulled his quarterback out of a national championship game
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: because they weren't able to be balanced. They needed to
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: throw more. That's the frustrating part for me. You know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: the way that they got destroyed in the games that
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: they lost last year, looking at the Tennessee game this year,
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: and then comparing it to Georgia game, they lost the
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: Georgia game. The officiating was horrible. They probably should have won.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: But they ran the football. They tried to run the football,
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: and they didn't. Now, I know they got some injuries
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: on the offensive line, but when you give your running
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: backs 13 carries, why even have them? You know, Shank
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: was on our postgame show, and, I mean, he is,
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: you know, they won the Joe Moore Award, right, for
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: the best offensive line on route to a championship.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Seems like a long time ago.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it does, right?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: One of the championships.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: But he appreciates the run game, right? And it's like
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: we just give up on it. And they're doing play-action fakes.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: And it's like, man, I haven't played football in 30 years,
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: but I'm not buying that.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: What are you faking to?
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: What are you faking for the 13 runs that you're
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: going to call? That's the problem I have with Alabama. Now,
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: I think that the injuries have been a part of this,
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: but I think it's been the same thing all three years. Like,
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: you're really good one week, and then the next week, like,
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: you beat Georgia, and then you lose to Vanderbilt. You know, like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: they've got to be more consistent. I think that's why
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: I feel like they're good and they're a top team.
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: They're not a national championship contender until they run the football.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Mick, thank you for the call. Let's go to the legend.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: So how do you feel, though, coming out of the bye?
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Tell him how many games that Kalen DeBoer, and we've
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: got this fact-checked multiple times.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Multiple times.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: How many times has Kalen DeBoer coached out of a bye?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Eight times. What do you think his record is?
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: 7-1. 8-0. 8-0. Okay, we'll find out.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: How do you feel coming out of this bye, though?
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Going to Baton Rouge, a team that seems to be
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: red hot right now in LSU.
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel bad about it. I mean, and it
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: has to do with injuries as much as coaching, right? Like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: first off, losing Delghetti at center has been terrible. And
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: then you go back and watch the film and it's like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: you know, they're making the right mic calls. You know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: guys are blocking the wrong direction. Like, It's been tough
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: to replace him at center, and that's such an important position.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: He's done such a good job. Sanders is out now.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: So you've got third-string guys on the offensive line. That
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: worries me.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: That's one reason you can't run, by the way. It's
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: not the only reason, but it is one reason.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: But the other reason is that you didn't try. 13
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: carries to your backs.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: You're talking about in the Texas A & M game?
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: In any of these. The Tennessee game, Texas A & M.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Tennessee was more of a head-scratcher.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: Look at the way that Bama's won this year, though.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: At the beginning of the season, when they were playing
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: their best, they beat Kentucky, which right now is a
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: great win. It's their best win right now. But, I mean, like,
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: they ran the ball in the second half. You know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: you've got to be committed to it and balanced. But
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: I feel like this LSU game, I mean, Lane Kiffin,
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: he's probably been planning for this for a month now.
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: It's going to be a tough game. I would love
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: for DeBoer to be 9-0.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bet does have an established.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Number out for Alabama LSU.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Two and a half?
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: It's a little higher than I thought. LSU, four and
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: a half. That's a big number. That's a big number.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: That might be good, though. Well, there are a lot
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: of people like you that I don't know.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Total of 52 and a half.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of people right now, after Saturday,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that think LSU is the best team in the SEC,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: maybe the best in the nation. Now, I'm not in
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that group.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: They look good, but they look good at Auburn. I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: think it's close. But here's the weird, just real quick
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: on LSU. That Auburn win at Georgia artificially reset what
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: we think about Auburn. Right. And what we thought about
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Auburn coming out of that Georgia win was not real.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: It was not real. And LSU goes and beats Auburn.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: And we're like, whew.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Well, that was so impressive. They just beat the team
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: coming off a win over Georgia. Well, if you take
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the Georgia game out of it, that LSU win at
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Auburn really doesn't blow you away as much as it did. Now,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it's still a nice win. I don't want to take
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: anything away. They were efficient. Their offense looked very good.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Their defense played very well. But I do think it
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: was artificially– boosted by what Auburn had done to shock
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the world in Athens the week before.
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: We went out with one of your friends, and he's like,
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: what's your pick for this week? And I was like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: I'd put the house on LSU to beat Auburn. I
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: know Auburn's better.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: No, I thought LSU was going to win the game.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: But, I mean, that was an easy bet to me.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: The problem that I have with this matchup, if I'm Alabama,
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: is a couple things. Now, one thing that Alabama has
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: on their side is, for whatever reason, we've had the voodoo.
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: curse on them down there.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Alabama does not lose in Baton Rouge.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: It's been great. I've been down there. Their fans are
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: obnoxious and fun. Sometimes rude, but accommodating. It's a crazy atmosphere.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: And Bama's found ways to win even with not great teams, right?
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: And that's been going on since Bear Bryant. But the
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: problem that I look at is that Alabama can't run
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: the ball and LSU stops the run. And when Bama's
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: played these elite defenses, which is two, they put so
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: much pressure on the quarterback. They beat Alabama up front,
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: they're in the backfield, and then they don't give Keelan
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: a whole lot of time. I felt like Texas A &
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: M wasn't able to get the pressure on the quarterback
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: that Tennessee and Georgia got, and I'm afraid that LSU's
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: going to be able to do that. And then, you know,
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: when you run the ball 13 times, you know... And
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: I'm not counting when your quarterback's running for his life.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about running because people in the chat
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: are like, we have more carries than that against Tennessee.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm not talking about that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I think the running backs had 14 carries. Yeah, the
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: running backs.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: Not the quarterback, you know, back there and there's three
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: guys in his face and he takes off. I'm talking
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: about straight handoffs. Part of this is on Keelan too,
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: you know, like the RPO game. He's got to make
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: a decision. If you watch our show with Jay Coker,
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: you know, he'll talk about this sometimes as a former
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: quarterback that, you don't have a whole lot of time
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: to assess what's going on. But you've got to look
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: up and see. And if there's five yards with a carrier,
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: you've got to throw it, pull it back.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And throw it.
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: You don't have a whole lot of time to do that,
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: and you've got to assess that. And Keelan, I think,
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: is going to be a great quarterback, but I don't
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: think he's there yet. They've got to hand the ball
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: off more, whether that's Grubb calling straight runs or Keelan's
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: RPO game. But LSU's done a great job of stopping
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: the run. It's going to be loud down there. You
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: look at the way that Bama played against Tennessee, which
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: was dismal. and the first half against Kentucky on the road.
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: So I think that this one's going to be a
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: tough game, and then every time I say that, the
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: other team wins.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: 42 all-time matchups, Alabama, LSU, and Baton Rouge. What do
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: you think the record is?
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: 42.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to sound insane. I'm going
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to say Alabama's 32-10.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's somewhere in there. I'm going to
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: say 35 wins. Wow.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: 30-10-2.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: 30 wins, 10 losses. I didn't remember any ties. Two ties, yeah.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It's gone way back. Before you guys did a show.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Well, they've won seven of the last nine in Baton Rouge, too.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, but growing up, I remember Alabama didn't lose
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge from like 1969 until... 2000, whenever Saban
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was there.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: 2000, yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: I was at the game.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: 2000, let's see, 98. I think it was 2001, yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: was the first time.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah who knew who Saban was at the time I
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: just they asked him in the press conference when he
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: was at LSU and he's like we don't believe in
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: any of that stuff I wasn't.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Around back there you know sign of things to come
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: they whooped us yeah sign of things to come um.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you covered Saban in
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: a press conference yes.
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: Yes Yes, because I worked for Crimson Tide Sports Network
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: when he got his job.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah?
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and so he would, and when he, tell you this,
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: I watched the documentary, and I remember when he first
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: got there, I was told not to try to get
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: a picture with him or approach him. He didn't want
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: to talk to anybody.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Don't look him in the eyes.
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: It was like that kind of thing, you know, and
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: I thought about, like, people said that about Martin Lawrence,
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: you know, like, you would get like, Hey, Martin Lawrence.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: I heard this on Howard Stern.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: You don't look Martin Lawrence in the eyes.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: I don't know if it's true, but that's what they
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: were saying on Howard Stern.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: So, you know, I was like, well, I just want
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: to win. I mean, we were so bad for so long.
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't care who comes and coaches this team.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: But when the, the tornadoes came, you know, I took
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: off of work and volunteered with the team, you know,
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: like through CTSN and we were on golf carts going
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: around and stuff. And then, I just think that changed everybody.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: It seemed like maybe he was just more open. Oh,
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: people say he was different after the 2011 tornado. I
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: feel like that just from being around there. But what's
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: interesting is that you watch the documentary and he's so unsure.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: And Coker was like, I wish I would have known
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: that because they just had no clue that the guy
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: actually could be could cry and could be emotional or would,
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: you know, twist over decisions. So he's a human.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I will never forget the first time I met him. 100%
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: remember the first time I met him. So shortly after
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: he got the job, this is before we were together.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Me and Dunaway are doing a show. Lance is doing
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: a show by himself. And Doug Walker, who I just saw.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: I know Doug.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug's with Florida State now. We saw him at
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: the Auburn-Florida State game, basketball game a couple weeks ago.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: But Doug was running the media relations at Alabama. And
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: he calls Dunaway, and he's like, you know, Coach Saban
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: wants to meet some of the local media. If you
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: guys want to come over, we'll give you an hour.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: And you can do an interview, just, you know, chat
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: with them off the record, whatever you want to do. So, yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: let's go over there. So we drive to Tuscaloosa.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: We show up.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Doug meets us at the football building. We walk in.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: He walks us up to Nick Saban's office. We go
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: in the office. And behind the desk is Terry Saban.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: And she's got crap all over the desk.
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: Oh, nice.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Like fabric samples and all these books where you flip.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Shit he doesn't want to deal with. And she was.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Guys i mean she was like awesome so over the
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: top yeah and introduces herself ask you know jim about
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: his family asked me about my family how long have
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: you been in alabama you know i mean just could
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: not have been nicer and then the door opens and
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: nick saban walks in and the first thing he says
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: i mean not not hey guys how y'all doing the
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: first thing he says he looks at terry saban he
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: goes and it's so dead pan dry you almost had
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: a strain to hear him he goes Am I ever
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: going to get my desk back? That's all he said
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to her. Looked right through you guys. He looks at
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: his wife and goes, Am I ever going to get
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: my desk back? And then he turns and goes, How
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you doing? Just shakes her hand.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: There was something intimidating about him, though. I remember the
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: first time I did an interview, it was SEC Media
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Days at the Winfrey. And it was just one of
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: those we got lucky to grab him, and it happened
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: to be during my solo show.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, fantastic.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: And so he sat down with me one-on-one.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I wish you were right in the middle of four down.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: And it was, yeah, I mean, I'm sure we were
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: talking about Chick Brackett or something. But there were a
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: million cameras just, you know, everybody was hovering over him.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: And I don't even remember what we talked about, but,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: you know. No, but he was, I mean, he was
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: kind of cold and guarded that day, but he was
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: new on the job. He didn't know who he was
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: talking to.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Um, another funny story from that is we go into
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the conference room, which is right off the coach's office
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: at the time. They've redesigned the building then, but you
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: walk straight out of the coach's office into the locker room, uh,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: into the conference room. So coach Saban walks on in
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and we follow him in. And there was one wall
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: had a whiteboard on it with the depth chart. And
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: one wall had a whiteboard on it where they're recruiting.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: So that's when Kirby took a picture of it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: So, um, We sit down at this massive, you've seen
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it in like the documentaries and all the conference table
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: where they have the team meetings, the staff meetings. So
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: we sit down and he sits down for a second
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and then he realizes those boards are uncovered. So he says,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: give me a second. And he gets up and he
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: walks over and he flips a switch and it goes
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: like this screen comes out and covers the boards.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: And I didn't.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: You know, trying to break the ice. I was like, coach,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I was too dumb to understand what any of that meant.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: You didn't have to lower that. And he goes, oh,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I just didn't want the screens to buzz while they were.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And I was like, he's trying to make up an
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: excuse why I lowered the screens. I'm like, no, I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: know you didn't want us looking at that.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: It was cool.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: He came in to an athletic department that had too
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: many outside voices.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: And that was always one of the things that– I
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: used to call it the viper pit, you know, because
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: different coaches trying to push for their programs and different
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: athletic directors doing stuff. I didn't enjoy the time over
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: there in some aspects just because of the politics. And
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: when he came in.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was done.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Hey, over.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: And I'm curious to see how it goes for DeBoer
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: because they went with a completely different personality. Right. Saban
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: was perfect for that time.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: And the way that he shut all that down was by, hey,
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: I'm not taking a picture with you. I'm here to
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: coach football.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go speak to Red Elephant Clubs.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not speaking to the, you know.
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: We all learned how to be successful from watching him
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: every day. Do you remember the one when they lost–
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: The guys were selling their textbooks. Yeah, that was Tennessee.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: That was 2009 Tennessee. Yeah, it was going into Tennessee.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Because they whipped Tennessee's ass.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Without those books. No, it was 2007 Tennessee.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: 2007, and you always hear, you know, you do the
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: same thing I do, about what was going on and,
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: you know, this and that with the players. And he
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: benched those guys, and they lost. And then he had
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: that speech where he was like, you know, what kind
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: of program do you have? Does it matter if you win?
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: Or does it matter if you do it the right way?
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: And I remember that in particular and saying to myself,
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: not only does that apply to football, but that applies
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: to everything you do in your life. What is your
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: standard going to be? You guys got a show here.
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: What's your standard going to be on how you're going
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: to do your show? Are you going to do it
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: the right way or are you going to try to
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: take shortcuts? And I felt like that was a pivotal
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: moment in the program. But I think I learned a
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: lot about just how to be successful from watching him
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: And then when you work with the guys that played
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: for them, not only do they get done playing football
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: and have success in the game, but they have success
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: outside of the game. You know, like I did a
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: show with Mike Johnson. He's, you know, doing radio.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: We had him on yesterday.
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was on the show yesterday.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: We're great friends.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: You sit down and talk to him and it's like, man,
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: if Coach Saban hadn't have taken over, my life would
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: be totally different.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: That's right. He's probably not in the NFL.
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like, it's not even the NFL. It's the, you know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: how to show up and be a great professional every day.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: You know, the things that we have to do, you know,
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: with this, which is not playing football. We got so
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: lucky to be around somebody that was just And then
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: you watch the documentary, and it's like this wizard dude
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: that's on there telling them.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know. That's the wildest part. This is the guy.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: This is the guy.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Do we ever get an age on that guy, by
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: the way?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I think he is a wizard. I don't think he
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: has an actual age.
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: We need a wizard dude for our show.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: 226.
• 47:11
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• 47:15
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're going to run through the Week 9
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: college football potential upsets, and we'll go DEFCON 1 to 5.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I assume you know this, Mick, but DEFCON 1 is
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: where the world is ending. DEFCON 5 is total peace.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: A lot of people think it's opposite. What are we
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Are we on a 4?
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: I think we're at 3.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Are we really at 3?
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I think we've only been four or two times in U.S. history,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Somebody can fact check me on
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: that one, but I think that's right.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Wait, so I've got to go back to this. So
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: five is obviously we're in a great spot.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, wait a minute. We've only been two times
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: in history. Even I screwed it up. So I think
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: we're on three right now, if I'm not mistaken. So
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: here we go. So for the favorite, what DEFCON are
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: we on? Arizona at Texas Tech, early window there.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I think it's DEFCON 1, 100%. For Texas Tech?
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I just think the way Arizona's playing right now with Fafita,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: this defense, Texas Tech coming off, I don't even know
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: how to explain it, how Cincinnati did what they did
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: to them. But Will Hammond, your quarterback for Texas Tech,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: and one of the reasons that Brennan Sorsby was getting
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: paid all this money, Hammond is not thrown for more
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: than one touchdown in any game this year.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: That's a crazy stat. I heard you give that to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Andy Staples yesterday. I'm like, that cannot be real, but
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think it's DEFCON 5.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you.
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I mean, you know,
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: out in Texas, now that you can pay players, you know,
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: all those schools are throwing out a bunch of cash.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: And Texas Tech had a great roster last year, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: I think the expectations were they were going to win
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: a national championship. And it almost feels like the Dodgers
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: versus the Brewers.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: I mean, like all of a sudden you do you
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: do things the right way. Things come together and it's
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: got to be if they lose another game.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: They're done.
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: See the post the interview with the coach after the game.
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, you could just feel frustrated.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Everybody is Auburn at Ole Miss. Ole Miss is on DEFCON.
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: What?
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I will say they are at DEFCON 4.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, almost perfectly safe.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, almost perfectly safe. I don't want to say 5
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: because the last time we did this, Auburn went out
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: and shocked the world.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Auburn beat Georgia. I don't even know if Auburn Georgia
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: would have made a list like this that day.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the one kryptonite that Ole Miss has
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: right now is run defense, but I don't know if
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Auburn can run the football.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremiah Cobb has been Numbers-wise, disappointing this year, I think.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the thing that scares me, too, is Trinidad
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: is coming off his worst statistic game as an Ole
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Miss Rebel, and he's going against the 14th SEC defense
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: in passing, giving up over 250 yards per game. I
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: think this is a spot where he can thrive. He
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: can put up big numbers. They do get a benefit
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: of 1145 game. But Ole Miss knows what they've got
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: to do in this situation, and I think Ole Miss
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: is going to be fine.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Do you agree, Defcon 4, you think?
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so, because what's weird about this league,
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: and I don't think Auburn's a bad team. I think
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: if they were in the ACC, think of their record,
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: they'd probably be a lot better. But there's so many
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: really good teams in the conference, they're not going to
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: go to Ole Miss and win. They didn't play Alabama
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: in a physical game and kind of get that rat
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: poison that Georgia had. And I watched the Texas and
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: Ole Miss game and I thought both of these teams
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: are really good. And if it was in Oxford, I
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: think Ole Miss would have won that game. So I
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: don't think it's going to be close. I think it's
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: going to look a lot like last week's game against LSU.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Florida and Georgia playing in Atlanta. Cocktail party in Atlanta.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Mercedes-Benz for this year. georgia's on defcon what this is
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: their first game after auburn it feels like that auburn
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: game was a month ago but this is georgia they've
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: had a buy so they're coming off the lost auburn.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go defcon four it would be shocking to
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: see kirby lose as a three touchdown favorite go into
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: a buy come back out as a two touchdown favorite
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: and lose that game.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Just seeing him lose back-to-back games seems improbable.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: It does and then second worst pass defense in the
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: sec is florida gunner stockton I'm sure he has been
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: kicking himself in the ass for the last couple of
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: weeks because of the three turnovers. I think he's going
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: to play well, leads the SEC in completion percentage at 74%.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I think Georgia comes out, and I think the atmosphere
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: there is going to be great. I could see Florida
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: hang with him for a half, but I think Georgia
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: will pull away.
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I see it really about the same way. I mean,
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: Florida's been competitive. Really surprising this year. Every time you
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: think they're going to fall out. They've been the hardest
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: team to figure out. Lose South Carolina, beat Texas. You
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: look at this and say, hey, maybe this is the
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: year where they can put together back-to-back great games. But
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: the fact that Georgia lost the way that they lost,
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: they're going to bounce back. Plus, it's in Atlanta. They're
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: going to have a ton of fans there.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: It should be a Georgia home ground.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: For Florida to win the game, it's Jaden Baugh. Everybody
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: talks about the Buster Faulkner offense. It doesn't matter if
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: it's Philo Or if it's Jones, either one of those
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: guys starting, Jaden Baugh's got to have a big game.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: And this Georgia defense only gives up 90 rushing yards
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: per game. So I think it's a tough hill to
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: climb for Florida.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I've got a stat on that real quick.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: It would also be pretty amazing for Summerall to win
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: the first cocktail party against Kirby Smart.
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: He's good.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: He is very good.
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: I saw him on your show years ago, and he's
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: legitimately an up-and-comer.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was trying to find this stat from our guy,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Brooks Austin. Oh, here it is. Buster Faulkner has faced
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Georgia three times. Three times. So I don't have the
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: total number of possessions in those games, but three games
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: in a college, you probably get 12 possessions in a
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: college game. Is that about average you would think?
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about right.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: You probably get 12 possessions. So we're probably talking somewhere
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: in the number of 36 possessions. 36 possessions, Buster Faulkner
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: against Georgia. How many three and outs do you think
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: they have? How many possessions again?
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: 36.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: That's just a guess. I don't know how many it
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: actually is. 36 is an educated guess.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Three.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: It's two.
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive. Buster Faulkner knows how to at least
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: possess the ball against a Kirby Smart glinch human defense.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's impressive.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: You've got to get points out of it at some point,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: but not a whole lot of three and outs from
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: a Buster Faulkner offense. And that is the strength of
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: this Florida team is their offense. We'll pick up on
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: some more of these. I've got four more we'll get
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: to in just a little bit, and we'll set a
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: DEF CON on those. In fact, we may do it
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: after the break here. Before we go to break, though,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: how beloved is Ernie Johnson? Did you see the reaction
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: last night? I mean, that's crazy.
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they have the best show on television.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: They really do.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Well, their chemistry is just incredible.
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: But they're not afraid to say what they want to say.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: That's correct, yeah.
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: And in our business, and I've been in it for
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: a long time, depending on who you work for, you're
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: not really allowed to give your opinion. You have to
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: toe a company line. And there's a lot of people
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: that get hired into jobs that aren't good. And it's
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: other reasons than talent.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: And it's frustrating. I mean, I've been in this for
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: 20 some years. When you see most, a lot of
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: these shows and you're like, why is that person on there?
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: And then you figure it out. Those guys are just,
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: those guys are just legitimately great. They're there because they're
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: talented and they're there because they're entertaining.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: You don't get that a whole lot. But to see Charles,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: and we've known Charles a long time, literally choked up
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: about Ernie announcing his retirement. I mean, I thought that
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: spoke volumes. And We've heard Charles talk about Ernie. He
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: loves Ernie Johnson.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if he would just complete human award
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: anybody he's ever met in the world, I think he
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: would go Ernie Johnson.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: So congrats to Ernie retiring at 70 at the end
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: of this year. What an amazing run for that show
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: and for Ernie in particular. And good news is he's
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: not completely going away. He said he'd still do March
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Madness and stuff like that. I've always liked Ernie Johnson.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: He is legitimately a good dude. Never heard a bad
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: word about him.
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: No, and I was watching that last night and just,
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: and the comments that those guys make.
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: They were talking about the one guy taking all the shots.
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: You know, it's just, Such a fun show.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: It really is.
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: It's like a bunch of guys sitting at the bar
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: talking about sports.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Did you see the bit that was viral this past
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: week where Charles is trying to name where the player plays,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: where he play?
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Did you see it?
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: That was hysterical. I mean, like they kept going back.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks, it's the Pistons!
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: It was so good. Did you ever see that when
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: Shaq was making fun of that guy, JaVale McGee or
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: whatever his name is? This is going back a ways.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a while.
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: That was so funny to me. Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that.
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: And his mom called Shaq's mom to make him stop
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: doing it.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: It's funny how many current players he has pissed off.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Shaq? More so Barkley, but both of them. Charles doesn't care.
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: They just show bad highlights like ball bouncing off McGee's
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: head or stumbling down the court.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll do more chaos weekend. We'll go DEFCON
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• 58:17
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  Speaker 1: um i should have told you that i keep forgetting
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: to send lance that text all good man we got
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: a group text that somehow lance gets rotated off of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: somehow and not intentionally it's just some weird technological thing
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: yeah could.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Be my uh my phone.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Your phone how old is lance's phone tyler he has
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: an iphone 12 and since i'm an android guy i'm
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: not sure how old that is iphone 12 um.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: They judge my ancient cell phone.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Sometime between Noah's Ark and the founding of America, Lance's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: cell phone.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: They got the 17 plus. 2020.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: 2020 was the Apple 12?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: You got a six-year-old phone.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: That's not that old, is it? It's a COVID phone.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, they are the same thing. This one, I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: always get the max storage.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Apple's one of the biggest rackets ever.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: It's the same exact thing. Maybe the camera quality's a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: little better.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, Tyler is flying his protest by just telling
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: us his Android.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: Those are cool. If I didn't know how to use
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: this so well.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: You'd go Android?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: I would switch, yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it messes up the group text, though. Tyler's.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: No, it does.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: We got that green bubble from Tyler in the group text.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: I'm the one that gets left out.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I know, and it bumps Lance out. I think it's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: either your green bubble or his old phone that bumps
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: him out of our group text. Hey, I've got a
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: two-year-old phone.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: He's got one that needs to go to the retirement home.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Six years is ancient for a phone these days. Do
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: a victory lap. All right. Utah is at Cincinnati. This
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: is a massive game in the Big 12, especially for Utah.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Defcon for Utah on the road at Cincinnati.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: Utah on the road at Cincinnati. I will put this
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: at two. I think it's high. Look, Cincinnati coming off
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: their best performance of the season where offensively and defensively
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: they were dominant over Texas Tech.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: And I would say this, too.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Utah has played the 89th most difficult schedule. That ranks
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: dead last in the Big 12. So they really haven't
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: beaten quality yet. I mean, I give them the credit
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: against Houston. That was the best team they faced. Cincinnati
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: right there kind of with Houston. But 13 straight wins
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: for the Utah Utes, longest current win streak in the FBS.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I watched the game last week, and then I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: saw Pat McAfee saying that he thought that they took
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: shots at him on social media. I was like, man,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: I mean. I think Utah's a pretty good football team.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: I really do. And I think Cincinnati.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: They're so untested, it's hard to tell.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: They had not played anybody until last week. Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: Their defense was really good, though.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: I thought that Houston had a great offense and they
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: shut them down. I think they're going to be fine.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Put them at three. Mississippi State at Texas. Now, on
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the surface, you would completely ignore this one. State playing
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. They're at Texas. But, I mean, the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: way Texas plays, they can let teams like this in
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the game. I mean, I know it seems impossible.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going five.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's any.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: When we go five.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I know. I don't think there's any fear. I mean,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Texas already has three top 15 wins this year. The
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: talent differential between these two rosters is night and day.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: And again, you're starting a backup quarterback.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, look, without Taylor at quarterback, Bothwell at running back,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: they lost their best guy in the secondary. This game
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: will be over probably midway through the second quarter.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not prepared to say that.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 7: They're going to destroy them.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: These are the types of segments where we come back
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: on Monday and we're like, boy, Thursday. You're going to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Hard Rock, man. Well, that was Thursday when Mick was
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: in studio. He said the game was going to be
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: over mid-second.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: When they have Taylor and Bothwell, they're a good team.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 7: I think Kamario Taylor is one of the most talented
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 7: quarterbacks in the league.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: No doubt.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: The drop-off is just tremendous.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 7: And Texas, I think, has got some momentum right now.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 7: But the way that Texas runs the football is elite.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: And if Sark would just run the football more and
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: take the ball out of Archer's hand.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Is there a team in the SEC you don't want
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: to run more?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: Well, I just watch them run the ball, and I say, hey,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: if I was Alabama and I had that running attack,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: I would never throw it.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Relique Brown was really good last weekend
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: against Ole Miss. didn't have Hollywood Smothers, when you've got
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: both of those guys, I do think more so lean
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: on them a little bit to open things up for Art.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's go now to Miami and North Carolina, and
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: it's here from the coaches. First, Mario Cristobal, the Miami
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: head coach. A lot of people, like me, have said
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: the problem with this game is there's Notre Dame hanging
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: out there next week, biggest game in the nation, one
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: of them, for this entire season. And is that a
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: look-ahead possibility? So Mario Cristobal addresses that.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: The guys, they've really bought in, obviously, to the 1-0,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: where your feet are. But this week, looking ahead to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: Notre Dame.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I'm sorry.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: We're not going to do that. So we're going to
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: look at North Carolina. No, I'm making sure that they
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: don't look ahead to Notre Dame.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, no. I'm making sure that that's.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: Not a draft game type thing.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: As you can see, I'm armed and ready. So I'm sorry.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: What was your question?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Just.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: We know that they bought into that, but how important
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: is that message this week so that they don't look
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: ahead knowing that everyone has had their eyes on that game?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: We just watched them on North Carolina at the line
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage. They're beating up everybody they play. It's easy
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: to see.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: And if anyone that doesn't recognize that is chooses to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 8: be blind, um, we play, uh, when, in this conference,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 8: you know, and conference play in general is playoff football.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: And I think, um, instead of thinking about what's at
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 8: stake and being in like defensive mode and protection mode,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 8: it's more of got to say that in a hunting mode,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: you got to be on the attack because the teams
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 8: that we play have really, really good players that can
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 8: beat you and can beat anybody and watching them on
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: tape and the things they've done and, Some of the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: players and their capabilities, it's going to take every ounce
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: of preparation and great effort to make sure we get
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: our one and out.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was ready the minute Notre Dame got mentioned. No, no, no,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: we're not doing that this week. And the girl was like,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I'm asking you how you prevent your team from doing
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: it this week.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Look, I think the Shannon Dawson offense with Darian Mensah
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: completing over 81% of his passes, which is just really
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: silly when you think about it. Malachi Toney coming off
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: 16 receptions against Pittsburgh. Two running backs that are capable
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: of going 100-plus on any given Saturday. This offense is really,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: really good. The defense, I still have a lot of
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: question marks. Now, the good news is you're playing a
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: North Carolina offense that doesn't put any scare into you.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: But North Carolina's defense, I mean, they're salty. 40th right
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: now nationally in yards per play that they give up.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I think the key number is three. And when I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: say three, it goes back to Auburn and Athens. If
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: they can be plus three in turnovers, they can win
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: That's a big ask. That's a big ask.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: And especially when Mints has only got one turnover this year.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: One interception, yep.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe you need a blog punt. Maybe you
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: need a recovered fumble and get that one pick and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: set yourself up. I do think the look ahead is real.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: This is why I would put this at DEFCON 3.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. I mean,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: when you're talking about next week's game, even when you're
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: just saying we're not thinking about next week's game.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not talking about next week's game. You're still
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: talking about next week's game, yeah. And what's more?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: Entertaining than Bill Belichick these days.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Well, let's hear it.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Let's hear Bill, the grumpy old Bill, talking about who
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you just brought up, Malachi Tony. Bill Belichick's widely regarded,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: and you guys, whether you like him or not, one
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: of the greatest defensive minds that's ever coached the game, right?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: No doubt.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: So when you hear him talk about a specific player
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: and the difficulty in stopping that player, that should tell
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: you just how good Malachi Tony is. And here's Bill Belichick.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 10: I mean, he can kill you on a screen pass.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 10: He can kill you on an intermediate play. He can
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: kill you on deep balls. obviously returns, improvised plays. He
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 10: helps the quarterback out a lot because he gets open.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 10: He finds ways to get open even when he's double covered.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 10: That doesn't really stop him. You would think it would,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 10: but not really. He's made several big plays off of
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 10: double coverage because he knows how to beat double coverage.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: That's At his age, it's pretty impressive.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Bill's not going to get excited about
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: anything except the 24-year-old, but he may not even get
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: excited about that. Boy, she's going to hide it.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she has.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: What if they're still together?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: Probably one of those business decisions.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Quiet breakups.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 7: No, no, no. You stay out of the spot.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, we're still together, but you stay out
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: of the spot.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: Your allowance will continue to come as long as nobody
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: sees you.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: But to hear him talk in such glowing terms about Malachi, Tony,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: where basically he said you can double-team him, doesn't stop him.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, why double-team him? He knows how to beat
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: a double-team.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do think– I asked Lance the other
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: day because a lot of people have just given Jeremiah
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Smith the Heisman and said he's going to– to win it,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: the Ohio State receiver. Malachi Toney is a legitimate challenger
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: at that Heisman spot. A good game there, fine. A
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: good game against Notre Dame. I know Mario doesn't want
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: you talking about that yet, but a good game against
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, I think Malachi Toney could win this Heisman.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: I think he could just because he's so electric and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: he does so many different things for this offense and
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: he also does it in the return game.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: But the problem there is you split votes.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Now, we saw Devontae Smith win it in 2020, split
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: votes with Mack Jones. But Darian Minty, you can't deny
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: the fact that he's completing over 81% of his passes,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: 22 touchdowns, and only one interception.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. You could go either route there,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and that may be ultimately the decision between those two
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: and Jeremiah Smith. I really don't even know who's factored in.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Who else is factored in in your mind, Heisman-wise?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Those three.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Trinidad probably cost himself a Texas, didn't he?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Stockton cost himself a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't even know who would factor in
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: at this point.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, CJ Carr hasn't been great.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right now it's those three. Unfortunately, Atkinson and Legree
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: play so off-Broadway, they'll never get any sort of.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Any sort of pop. All right, the final game for
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: DEFCON is Ohio State at USC. Massive, massive game for
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. Ohio State mix starting backup quarterback. So that
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: puts this in play, obviously. Having to go on the road,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: even though USC's not the most hostile environment in the world.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: DEFCON 1-5 for Ohio State.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Where do you go?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, this feels like the final year of Lincoln Riley, right?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying that, yeah.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 7: Because, I mean, everybody feels like it. Without the starting quarterback,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: USC ought to be able to contend. There's a guy
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: that probably knows more about USC than me. But you
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: know Ohio State's going to figure out a way to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: win this football game. They're going to be better on defense.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 7: USC will make mistakes. The backups back up like Alabama
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: found out in 2014. They've got guys that can play.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: And if you don't put it all on the quarterback's shoulders,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: I think Ohio State is... Really a good team. They're
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: coming off one of their biggest wins since the national
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: championship game. I think I'd put it at a three.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: I think I would go two just based on this.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: Luke Fahey starting at quarterback. USC has yet to see
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: a top 50 efficiency offense. So they're going to see it,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: but they're going to see it with a backup quarterback.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: So how efficient is it really going to be? You've
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: got to account for Jeremiah Smith. I don't think anybody,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, nobody in the country has got somebody that
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: can actually match up with him. I know USC does.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: And when you look at these matchups, Lincoln Riley in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: 20 top 25 matchups at USC, what do you think
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: his record is?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: 20 top 25 matchups at USC, I'm going to say
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley is 7-13.
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  Speaker 5: 5-15.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: That is bad.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 7: 5-15.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: That's USC. He's not doing that at some random place.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: He has not been great in these matchups. And just
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: how bad, how pitiful, how anemic that offense looked last
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: week in Madison. I just don't know if it bounces back.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to hang in there, but that's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: just because Julian Sayen's not playing.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: I wonder who their next coach will be.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: That's the big question.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are asking that question. A lot
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: of people are asking that question. I know what Mick
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: wants to say right now. By the way, we have
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: been at DEFCON 2 twice in the history of the
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: United States. One was the Cuban Missile Crisis. I was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: going to say Bay of Pigs. That's right, Cuban Missile Crisis.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Had to be. The other was Operation Desert Storm in 91.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: I did not remember us going to DEFCON 2. I
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: was in high school then. I'll tell you this.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: I was in college, and I remember us talking about,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: are they going to go back to the old school drafts?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. That war lasted, what, 48 hours?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: My dad got drafted.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: But that was kind of the talk.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know, yeah. In high school, you're like, oh, crap,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: America's going to war.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: And I remember my parents, like, hey, go fill up
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: on gas. Let's go ahead and get gas while it's cheap.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 7: Do they still do the thing where you have to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 7: fill out the form?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Do you have to register for selective service anymore?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, I know we did.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Might not be bad. You know, Tyler, you're the.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: Youngest among the young people to do that.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 7: I think it's part of voter registration.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, voter registration. I believe so. Is that the loophole? Like, oh,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: by the way, you're also in selective service.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when all the world events were going on?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: CNN captured everybody. Like, there was nowhere else to go
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: because we obviously didn't have social media, didn't have the internet.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: It was all CNN.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Those are the days, huh? All right, Mick, thanks for
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: swinging by, buddy.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: Good to see you.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Mick on our platform a lot. We're going to talk
• 1:13:43
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  Speaker 1: us now. Welcome in Clay. How are you today?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: I'm fantastic. Just seeing the news. I'm sure you guys
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: talked about it.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: I was live on Fox news, so I didn't see
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: it in the meantime that, um, Jeffrey Simmons has been
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: traded to the Chicago bears for a couple of.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: First round picks.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: Um, Titans star player, obviously for SEC fans, they remember
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: him from Mississippi State. Big time, havoc-wreaking defensive tackle. Good
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: haul for the Titans. This may be the first thing
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: the Titans have done this season that I've actually agreed with,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: getting a first-round pick, 27-28. This team is nowhere close
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: to being able to compete at a high level in
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: the NFL. So you've got to rebuild, and the way
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: you rebuild typically is by getting draft picks. Now they've
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: got to make good picks with them, which has been
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: a problem for the Titans too. But I think it's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: the right move. It's the smart move. And if you've
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: made the decision that you're awful, the worst place to
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: be in the NFL is 7-10, 8-9, 9-8, sort of
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: floating around mediocrity. You've got to be able to have
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: a team that can get to 12 wins. And we'll
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: see if the Titans can do that any time in
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: the next 10 years. But at least with the right
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: young players, that's the goal.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I do think it's fascinating. Robert Sala, you know,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: coming off year one, what do you do with Sala
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: and what do you do with Cam Ward? Do you
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: reset a coach and quarterback? Do you reset at one
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: and not the other? I don't think the coach matters. And,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: you know, people can say, Clay, what in the world
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: are you talking about? If your quarterback stinks.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how good of a coach you have.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: If your quarterback stinks, you can't win at a high
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: level in the NFL. I'm not sure you can win
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: at a high level now in college football either, but
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: that's a different story. In the NFL, your quarterback matters
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: way more than your coach. So the Titans have to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: get the quarterback position solidified. It seems that they have
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: made the decision that they're going to go with Cam
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: Ward for the remainder of this season because otherwise I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: think they would have benched him already. At that point
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: in time, you have two full years of data on
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: him as a quarterback, and we will see now they're
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: going to have two first-round picks. Is it possible that
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: they go back into the draft and decide to go
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: get a quarterback this year and just say, hey, the
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: Cam Ward experiment has not worked. We'll see what happens
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: on the final, I think it's 10 games, if I'm
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: not mistaken on my counting, final 10 games of the season,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: but the first 25 or whatever the heck he's played
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: has not suggested that there is a reason for much optimism.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: So the Titans have traded Jeffrey Simmons on the college side.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Is there anybody that is in the SEC that is
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: happy with the SEC? Like Tennessee fans are furious about
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: the way your game was officiated over the weekend. Lane
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Kiffin basically said yesterday the SEC doesn't want us to win,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: so we're not going to catch any breaks from them.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Do you think there's one fan base that's like, you
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm cool with the SEC. I think they
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: do things the right way.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: Kentucky is pretty happy right now. Look, I think this
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: is part and parcel of the brand new era that
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: we find ourselves in in college football. I think everybody
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: is going to have to realize that nine and three
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: is a good season. Ten and two is a great season.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: And you guys are NFL fans. I know a lot
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: of SEC fans are also NFL fans, but I'm not
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: sure they follow it anywhere near the same level. The
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: era of, I think, undefeated teams is basically over. I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: saw Danny Cannell tweet, and I don't think it's a
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: crazy take. that in years ahead we may look back
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: on teams like Indiana, LSU, that were undefeated as the
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: equivalent of 1972 Miami Dolphins in the NFL. I just
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: think we're entering into an era of parity where losses
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: are going to become far more common and where, again,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: 9-3 is going to get you in the playoffs and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: some years 8-4 will.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: And that's going to take some time.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: I think, for college football fans to adjust to that
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: new paradigm, that new reality of college athletics.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: If you were advising Arch Manning, would you tell him
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: to stay at Texas another year, transfer out or go
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: to the NFL?
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  Speaker 4: I think it depends on how the season finishes and
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: what his NFL projection is. Arch is going to have
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: really good advisors, obviously, with his uncles and with Cooper.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: This is not a guy who's going to listen to
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: the last guy to talk into his ear. I don't
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: think the family needs money. That's always a good position
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: to be in where you don't have to make a
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: choice entirely based on money. I bet everybody watching and
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: listening to us right now has been in a position.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: I certainly have. I know you guys have.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: Where you have to take a job because you've got
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: a mortgage to pay. It's not necessarily the best job
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: or the job that you would want to have, but
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: that's what adulthood requires. That's what personal responsibility mandates. And
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: so that's fortunately for the Manning family and for Arch,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: that's not his imperative. And so I think he can
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: make a rational decision based on all of the evidence,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: I would bet, I mean, look, you want to float
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: something that can get clipped and people pay a lot
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: of attention to it. Seems like Ole Miss is going
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: to have need for a quarterback next year. I would
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: just point out, you know, with Trinidad Chambliss leaving, are
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: there a lot of people in Oxford that would pay
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: $ 5 million a year for Arch to come to Ole
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Miss and be a quarterback for a year? I would
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: be stunned if that's not the case and if they
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: wouldn't welcome him with open arms. I would think there
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: would be a lot of places that would bid and say, hey,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: we think we can have a better setting for you, Arch.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: We think we can have more success for you. So
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: I think it depends on how this season finishes. Remember,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: everybody's down on the Longhorns, but they do have the
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: three best wins of any team in college football. They
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: beat Ohio State. They beat Tennessee on the road. They
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: beat Ole Miss. That's three top 20 caliber wins. Nobody
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: else has that. Yes, it's frustrating. The loss to Oklahoma
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: and Florida, I think, frankly, were hard to justify and
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: hard to explain.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: They only lost by three.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: A bunch of different plays in those games could have
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: gone a different direction, and they could have ended up
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: winning by 10. So I just look at this situation
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: and say, okay, let's see how they finish the year.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: If they were to run the table and go 10-2,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: I think people might look at Arch quite a bit
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: differently than they do sitting right now at 6-2.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, David in the chat, it's like $ 5 million
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: for a three-star quarterback. That is a lot. I mean,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Arch is not.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: A three-star, is he?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's a three-star.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: What star would you give him right now? Look, what
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: did Sam Levitt get at LSU? Have you watched him play?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: Have you thought, oh my goodness, Sam Levitt is one
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: of the greatest players out there?
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: The last couple of weeks, Sam Levitt's looked really, really good.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't I don't know if he's been
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: a $ 5 million quarterback.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: No, LSU has looked really good on the defensive side
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: of the ball, but has he looked like a guy
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: worth $ 5 million? Has Hoover up at Indiana looked.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: Like a $ 5 million quarterback?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: Has Bryce Underwood looked like a $ 4 million quarterback? Look,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're gambling somewhat on what the outcome of
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: a quarterback is going to be. I mean, heck, even
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: Ole Miss didn't know what they had in Trinidad and
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: Chambliss until they got him fixed and flowing inside of
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: the offense. Um, to me, I, I, again, I think
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: Arch Manning would be a top first, second or third
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: round pick.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: He's big, he's strong, he's tough. He's got a good arm.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: Somebody would draft them in the NFL in the first
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: three rounds. Um, do they want that or do they want,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: I think somebody 100% would pay $ 5 million for Arch
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: next year.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: You can eat a lot of cheesecake factory on $ 5 million.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Can't you Clay? That is a lot of cheesecake factory.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: That's right. I can go all over the place.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me the controversy with the cheesecake factory.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, What's that?
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: There was some kind of controversy with the cheesecake.
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  Speaker 6: People are coming after me over Cheesecake Factory.
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  Speaker 4: Look, all I said was Barack Obama's.
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  Speaker 6: Out of touch.
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  Speaker 4: When I go to eat at the Cheesecake Factory in
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  Speaker 4: my entire life, it's been a treat. And it's not
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: a low end chain restaurant. And so if you want
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: to make a joke at Trump's expense and try to
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  Speaker 4: argue that he's making the Oval Office look low rent
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: and low end. then you better pick a place that's
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: actually low rent and low in in order.
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  Speaker 6: To make that joke.
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  Speaker 4: Cheesecake Factory, I mean, it is expensive to eat there.
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  Speaker 4: Do you guys have a Cheesecake Factory in Birmingham?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course we do. I would be caught dead there,
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  Speaker 1: but yes.
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  Speaker 4: You wouldn't be caught dead there. My parents love it.
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  Speaker 4: We've been going for years. My mom texted me this week.
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  Speaker 4: Your dad and I are out at the Cheesecake Factory
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  Speaker 4: even before all the controversy started.
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  Speaker 6: They love it.
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  Speaker 1: Do they actually get cheesecake?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: Does anybody get cheesecake there?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: That's controversial now, but I'll take it. Look, my general
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: position on everything is, and I may have told you
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: guys this before, every time somebody attacks you for something
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  Speaker 4: I hate Clay Travis. And the first thing you may
• 1:24:21
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  Speaker 4: He's like the worst guy on the planet. What does
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  Speaker 4: Clay Travis? I've never heard of him before. Let me
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  Speaker 5: I hate him.
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  Speaker 6: But you know what?
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  Speaker 4: 20% of people are like, I kind of agree with
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  Speaker 4: some of the stuff that he's saying. He's not actually
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• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: people who found me because I was being attacked for
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• 1:24:57
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• 1:25:06
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  Speaker 4: There's not very many people with a bigger audience than
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  Speaker 1: I was going to follow up on Arch Manning real quick.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: Your buddy Jordan Rogers actually on Get Up yesterday said
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: that he should transfer or He should consider transferring. Jordan
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: didn't say he should. He said he should consider. and
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: he threw out three schools, Ole Miss, LSU, and Miami.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Miami's obviously always active in the free agency quarterback game.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss will need a quarterback. With LSU, it would
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: be interesting.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: I thought Levitt had multiple years.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I asked.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: I think Levitt's on year five. I'll tell you right now.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: All right, but real quick, I wouldn't think the Mannings
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: and Lane Kiffin would see eye to eye. That would
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: seem like a weird marriage to me. It would.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: Look, again, I understand people might disagree with me.
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  Speaker 4: I think there are tons of schools out there that
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: would offer $ 5 million.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: Here's the bigger issue for me.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: And real quick, Clay, Leavitt does have one more year.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think Leavitt's going to go pro.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: I think he'll be back. Maybe he wants, maybe he
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: gets out. Everything's a one-year rental now. But let me
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: just say this. The thing that would have me nervous
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: about Arch is, Steve Sarkeesian has sort of this reputation
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: as the ultimate quarterback whisperer, the ultimate quarterback developer.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: Maybe that's unfair, right?
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: But I would want, if I were advising Arch, I
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: would say, okay, where is the best place that I
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: can go that is going to truly develop all of
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: my talents and put me in a place to win?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: And look, I'm just going to say this, Miami? When
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: Miami has decided on a guy, Cam Ward, Carson Beck,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: and now Darian Mensah, three straight years, one and done,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: star quarterbacks have come to Miami and thrived in their system.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the relationship would be like or
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: is between, or if it exists at all, between Mario
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: Cristobal and the Manning family, but you get to play
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: in the ACC, guys. That slows down the game a
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: little bit, let's be honest. You have an incredible offensive
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: and defensive talent differential right now at Miami compared to
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: the rest of the ACC. They sent Cam Ward in
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: overall as a number one pick. Where did Carson Beck
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: end up going?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: I don't remember.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: But he got drafted, right?
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona. Yeah, third round Arizona.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: Okay, he's in Arizona.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: Arizona.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: And then Darian Mince is going to be a relatively
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: high-round draft pick, too. Ole Miss, to me, makes more
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: sense based on the family connection and because Trinidad Chambliss
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: is leaving. From a relationship perspective, you know that they
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: know everybody well at Ole Miss. Cooper does, for sure.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: But from a quarterback development perspective, the story that Miami
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: has to tell after three straight huge successes in the
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: transfer portal, everybody that has gone there basically has had
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: their best year.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: I think it's hard to– to look away from.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: By the way, I think you and me could, all
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: three of us would look good throwing the ball to
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: Malachi Toney.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: So you know he's back for another year. He can't leave.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: He's going to be a junior.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: I think that's a hell of a sales pitch to
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: be able to make to somebody that uh that miami
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: has the ability to uh to kind of give you
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: hey malachi tony pretty good place to start.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: You know we talked about kentucky there for a second
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: and if you're giving your national coach of the year
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: award away it's either will stein or maybe bob chesney
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: if you were advising will stein there's going to be
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: some possible big jobs opening florida state could be open
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: uh usc could be open hell texas could be open
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: Do you think Will Stein, if you were advising, would
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: you tell him to take a look at one of
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: these jobs after one year or stay at Kentucky?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: Well, he's a Kentucky kid, so I think he may
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: be a little bit unique in that he may actually
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: have a job that he wants to have for a
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: long time to come. And all I would say is
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: I think the job matters way less than it ever
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: has before. Look at Indiana and what Kurt Cignetti did there.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: Kentucky has an amazing fan base. You guys know you've
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: been to college basketball where the fan base shows up
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: in spades. They've never won in football. If they started
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: to win in football, they would show up for football
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: events like Indiana does because historically we've known Indiana as
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: a good basketball program. Now they've fallen off and are mediocre,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: I would say, over the last generation. Indiana basketball has
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: been mediocre at best. I think relative to the standards
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: of Kentucky basketball, Kentucky has been very mediocre for much
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: of the last 10, 12 years in basketball. And so
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: I think he has the potential to win at a
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: high level at Kentucky.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't tell him to leave.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: All right, he is Clay Travis. You will see him
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  Speaker 1: on Fox Big Noon Kick. Clay and Buck follow us
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: right here on Sport and State coming up in about
• 1:30:17
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• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: also on Sport and State. Clay, thank you for the time.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, going to give you guys props. Everything
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: is tough to build when you're starting anew. We're only
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: two months in as a part of the Sport and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: State network, but I'm sure you saw the awful announcing
• 1:30:35
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• 1:30:43
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• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: So keep up the good work. I think we're building
• 1:30:53
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• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: We're early.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: We're two months in. You know, it's like a baby
• 1:30:58
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  Speaker 6: Awesome.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Great feedback. Thank you, Clay.
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  Speaker 6: All right. Appreciate you all. Have a good day.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: You too. We'll see you, Clay Travis, with us. Those
• 1:31:16
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• 1:31:23
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• 1:31:24
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• 1:31:27
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• 1:31:30
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  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:31:38
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it.
• 1:32:32
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  Speaker 1: tell me they love Jimmy Johnson in those commercials. Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: Johnson's one of those guys. God, he was a hard
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: dude when he coached.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: He was.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: And he's kind of turned into more of a.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: I think people soften up when they get a little older.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: But boy, his former players are like, that dude, man,
• 1:33:32
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• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, I think there's a lot of
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: similarities between the intensity from Jimmy Johnson to Nick Saban.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: And we've heard that Nick Saban's lightened up a little bit.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, though, literally was like, Uh, I, if I
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: want to win big time in college football, I can't
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think he's ever remarried.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: Has he?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Don't think so. I think maybe he had, maybe he
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: had a lady friend, but I don't know if he's
• 1:34:03
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• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: what he said was marriage is getting in the way
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: of me coaching football. That ain't going to last.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: Is there any feedback on a fat Joe in the commercials?
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: I've not heard a lot of people talk about fat Joe. Um,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: But Fat Joe is, you know, he's secondary to Jimmy
• 1:34:19
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• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: But he does get identified.
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  Speaker 5: He does.
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  Speaker 1: He says, hey, I'm Fat Joe. We didn't have to
• 1:34:24
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to throw out all these questions, and you
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• 1:35:37
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• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Do the Denver Broncos have a Bo Nicks problem?
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: Boy, I can't ride the fence. It's either true or false.
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  Speaker 1: It's either true or false. You can't hold it sideways.
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  Speaker 3: I am going to say that is true. Now, as
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  Speaker 3: you know, you need a quality running back. We talked
• 1:36:01
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• 1:36:04
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• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: More on that in a moment.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: I just, I don't trust Bo Nix. Like, he seems
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: to be really good in fourth quarter situations. We've seen
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: two of those this year, but I would say that
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: that is true because they've got an elite defense. You've
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: got what has been an elite play caller.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't trust Bo.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: But again, if he wouldn't have gotten hurt last year,
• 1:36:29
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  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. He had them on the verge of
• 1:36:33
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• 1:36:35
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• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: And look, this could end up working out because we
• 1:36:38
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• 1:36:42
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• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: And Sean McVay was like, we're not going to be
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: able to do this with him at quarterback. And, you know,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: they go out and get Matthew Stafford. I've never seen
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: a deal work as well as it's worked for two organizations.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: Because golf has really worked out well there. So, you know,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: maybe this is a situation where Bo Nix ultimately goes
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: somewhere else. I don't know how in the hell they're
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: going to pay him 60 or 70 million dollars.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: That's the problem is he's about to have that free agency.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: I just don't see that happening.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Broncos have got to make a choice there.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: But I don't know of another NFL franchise that would
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: pay him that money either. So I don't know that
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: he's going to get that anywhere. True or false, the
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Colts trade Jonathan Taylor.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say true. You fired your general manager
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: in Chris Ballard. You're basically dead in the water right now.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: You've already gotten rid of DeForest Bugner and Quentin Nelson.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, two of your better players. So, yeah, I
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: think why not? True or false, the Colts fire Shane Steichen.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Some say he's the first to get fired.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is true. I mean, you're unloading
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: on everything there right now.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: Why keep the coach?
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why you would, and that's a
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: team that I had a bigger expectation for the Colts
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: before Daniel Jones went out last year. I thought they
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: were one of the best teams in football, but they're
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: 2-5 right now.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: I read an article, I can't remember which website today,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: that said Aaron Glenn is likely to get the whole season.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: There were people that thought that was the end for him.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: It may ultimately be Sunday.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: I thought it might have been.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, losing at home to the Dolphins, the lowly Dolphins.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: But most people think he'll get the whole season. Jim
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh remains the mystery there when you start talking about
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: first coach to get fired because you don't know how
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: patient they're going to be with him. Most of the
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: talk there is, does Mike McDaniel continue calling plays?
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: As of this week, he will.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: As of this week, he will. But that sounds week
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: to week right now.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: It does.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: For Mike McDaniel. So I don't know.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: And I never foresaw that like where.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Did i thought actually it was going to be tremendously
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: i did too.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: I a six games in and we're already talking about
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: changing the offensive coordinator.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah and i just thought that was going to be
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: such a good marriage with him and herbert uh true
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: or false the new york jets trade garrett wilson garrett
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: wilson says he does not want to be traded But
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: the Jets are going nowhere fast, and you could get
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: something for Garrett Wilson.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: You could, and you're going to ultimately have to reset
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: a quarterback here. Man, I don't know. He is such
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: a talented player, and we've never been able to see
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: him thrive just based on the quarterback situation and how
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: bad the Jets have been. I mean, Geno Smith has
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: been an upgrade, and Garrett Wilson is having his statistically
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: best year right now.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say that's false. Garrett Wilson says he
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to be traded, but you've got to think
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: from Garrett Wilson's perspective. Here are my options. Garrett Wilson's
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: been in the league three years. Here are my options.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: I'm either going to continue playing for Geno Smith, not
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: a great option. Or I'm going to play for a
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, maybe a worse option. I am completely wrong.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson has been in the league. This is year five.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Year five. So, I mean, his clock is starting to
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: tick a little bit. I know that sounds crazy, year five,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: but how long can you play as a receiver? And
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: so am I going to be stuck playing with Geno
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: Smith or am I going to have to reset with
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback and continue to burn years in my career? Boy,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: I would not want to be a Jet.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of people have probably
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: said that.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: It's historically been a bad idea. You're right about that.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: True or false, Lamar Jackson returns and torches Buffalo's defense Sunday.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: I am going to go true there.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Look out.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: I do like the Ravens plus the three on the
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: road here. If there is a weakness for Buffalo, it
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: is that defense. And I think Lamar is going to
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: come out and play extremely well.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: You know, last year you missed three games. He said
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: he came back prematurely. He said he would not do
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: that again. So I assume if you're going to see
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: him after this layoff, he's 100%.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: So that could be one of the more entertaining games
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: of the weekend.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: Could be, yes.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: With the way the Buffalo offense plays. This one for
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: Scott on the back row. True or false, the Falcons
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: exit the weekend, halfway point of the NFL season, as
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: the leaders in the NFC South. So to quickly tell
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: you what's going on in the NFC South, the Falcons
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: are at Tampa after tonight Carolina lost is at Green Bay.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: So if Carolina loses, Falcons win, they've got the South
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: lead halfway home.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: Right now, Carolina technically has that half game lead at
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: 3-3 over 3-4. I don't want to give away anything
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: that I've got aside tonight in the NFL, but I
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: will just say this. I believe the Falcons are going
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: to lose to Tampa, so I am going to say
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: that is false.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Scott. We're trying.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think Scott, I mean.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know where he is on Atlanta right now. Scott,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: have you checked out on the Falcons? Are you watching?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 6: I have not watched very much this season at all.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: You missed a good one this past Saturday or Sunday.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Biggest win of the season, you missed Sunday. True or false,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: Minnesota ultimately wins the NFC North. Maybe the most difficult
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: division to predict.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go false, but I'll tell you what.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: If you pick up a win in Detroit this week,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: And you go to 7-0.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: In division. In division.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: And depending on what Chicago does Monday night in Seattle
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: and obviously what Green Bay does tonight against Carolina, I mean,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: this could be 7-0 and your closest team behind you
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: could have three losses.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: You're almost halfway home and you're up three games. That's
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: going to be hard to lose.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: It's going to be really, really tough. But I'm going
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: to go false.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: And finally, true or false, the New York Giants win
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: the NFC East.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: I am going to go true on that. That's crazy.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: They seem to be the only team that is playing together,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: if that makes sense. There's so much dysfunction right now
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: with the Cowboys, the Eagles, and the Commanders. And although
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: New York is as beat up as any team in
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: the NFL right now, they continue to play hard for
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: John Harbaugh. So I'm going to go true.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got the best coach in that division.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: You'd say that is true as well. And John Harbaugh.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: It's too early to say this of J.J. McCarthy. But
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: the way he's playing, do they have the second best
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: quarterback in that division?
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: I still, you know, Dak.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying career-wise. I'm saying the way they're
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: playing right now, though. Dak's number one, the way he's
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: playing right now. That's easy. Would you say, I guess
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: it's a way of saying, is J.J. McCarthy playing better
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: than Jaden Daniels? And we've only seen it. For the
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: last five quarters, yeah. Yeah, I know.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: But unfortunately, that's what we've seen. Yeah, and I don't
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: know how long that keeps up. We shall see.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: We shall see. You're right about that. Daniel says, man,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: if they fire Steichen, he will have a job the
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: next day.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he will too.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's well-respected, right?
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, you would hope that's true for him.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Barry says, Bo will be fine. I mean, I don't know.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: They're starting to say that that is the weak link
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: of this Denver team that's got a generationally good defense.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: Really, really good defense.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: And just, what are you going to do?
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I don't feel like he's got a
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: ton of weapons around him. I'm not trying to make
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: excuses for Bo because something does look off this year.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: But, again, he doesn't have a semblance of a running attack.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Bo has been okay this year.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: But he's completing less than 60% of his passes.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Skitty Banks says, Faults on the Falcons. They are
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs of giving faults hope. That's a good
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: one way of putting it. Barry says the Falcons have
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: the most weapons in that division. That's probably true. Barry
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: also says both AFC and NFC North divisions are above 500.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't looked at that. That's not something I'm looking
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: at right now. But, I mean, they're... Those are two
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: divisions right now where it's almost impossible to say who's
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: going to win that division.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I think you can say who's not going to
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: win the AFC North. I mean, there's no way Cleveland
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: can continue this.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Who currently leads it, right?
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, them and Pittsburgh sit at top, 5-2, 5-2 Cincinnati.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: And they play this Sunday.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: 4-2 and Baltimore at 4-3. I think that thing's going
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: to flip around quickly. I think more difficult to handicap
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: is NFC North. Because I do think all four of
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: those teams could win it. And I do think all
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: four of those teams could be in the postseason. And
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: if that happened.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 7: Is.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: That the first time ever?
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: That would be the first time ever, and then you
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: would have a divisional winner from the West, the South,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: the East, which means Seahawks and Rams would both be
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: shut out.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's impossible to believe that you could have
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: the playoffs without one of those two teams.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: It does seem, based on watching last year and the
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: way everything unfolded, you thought that at least the Rams
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: are going to come back more whole than they were
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be impossible to believe. that you could
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: have the postseason without either the Rams. I'm not saying both,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying either the Rams or the Seahawks.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: It's not going to surprise me right now.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: Wow, that'd be crazy. We've got some more coming up
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: on the next round. We're not finished here. Obviously, Clay
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: and Buck are going to take over here in just
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: a few moments. We are going to hear what Lane
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Kiffin actually did say about the SEC to start the
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: show off. Alex Gull is talking about Trinidad Chambliss. I'm
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: going to ask Lance, we're going to go through last week,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: SEC team that could be looking at a letdown. This week,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: I teased this earlier. We're going to do the craziest
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: playoff bracket, but Mick surprised us with a visit, Mick Gillespie.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: So we'll try to put that together on tomorrow's show.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: What could we see as outcomes moving forward? Legitimate teams
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: that could make the playoffs that would create the craziest
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: playoff bracket. But you probably didn't see this today. On three,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: talk to 61. I think that's all the group six coaches. 61.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 7: 61.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: And ask, would you be in favor of splitting off
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: and doing your own playoff? Of 61, how many coaches said,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: write me down for that?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: Of the 61... Doing.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Your own playoff, you are separate. We have a Power
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: 4 playoff plus Notre Dame. I'm going to say this
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: is really close to split. I'm going to go 31-30.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: It's 40 that said yes. 40 out of 61, which
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: is a surprisingly high number for me.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: Well, look, it gives you an opportunity to legitimately play
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: for a championship. And then two, it gets you an
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: opportunity to advance your career. I would think that every year,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: whoever wins this... That group six coach gets another job.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: Would you agree at the power four?
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, we've already seen the group six. John
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Summerall made the playoffs, so you would say, okay, well,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: that was the team that would have won the playoffs. Now, obviously,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: James Madison did, and they both get good jobs. I mean,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Summerall gets a really good job, and Florida Chesney gets...
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: It looks like a better job now. It looks like
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: a better job now than when he found it at UCLA.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: So that's your example right there. Who was the group
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: team the year before? It was Boise, right?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: Boise, yeah.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Spencer Danielson has been there. I don't know that he's
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: ever going to take another job. He feels like that's
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: kind of his job, right? Oh, I think he's going
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: to get some offers, yeah.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: And I think, I mean, right now, they're the clear-cut
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: favorite to represent the Group 6 this year.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be two out of three years
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: he's taking a team to the playoffs.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he gets in this year. I think
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: he's going to get some offers.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: I wonder what kind of offer would pry him away
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: from Boise.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: USC.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but is that who USC would go after,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: you think?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: I have absolutely no idea right now.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, South Carolina is going to, they're probably going
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: to stick with Beamer. If South Carolina was open, if
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: you're Boise's coach, do you take that job?
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, I'd call Steve Spurrier and ask
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: him about it.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: I would, but I mean, I would have said the
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: same about Kentucky. I'm just being honest with you.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Spencer Danielson, would you have taken the Kentucky job?
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, he wouldn't have taken UCLA. He wouldn't have
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: taken Kentucky. He wouldn't have taken Indiana three years ago.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: And right now, those look like genius jobs to jump at. Yeah,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, when Cignetti jumped at Indiana, you're like, eh.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Guy's old, he's just trying to get a big-time conference.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: Not even a big-time job, just getting a big-time conference
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: before he dies. And he's turned that into a national
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: championship contender. So I don't know what's good or not anymore.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: But I would have said the same about Spencer Danielson
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: if he was looking to take the Kentucky job. On three,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: did that poll, 40 Brett McMurphy and the guys there,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: 40 of 61, group six coaches say, yes, we should
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: have our own playoff. I guess I would watch that.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: I think I would.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: I think I would rather watch that than bowl games.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you had the 2014
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: playoff and another whatever size playoff that is, I think
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: I would watch that over if just two 6-6 teams
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: are battling it out in the Duke's Mayo Bowl.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: Hey, and why can't we make the Group 6 playoffs
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: in the bowl games?
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that might be a solution there. I mean, just....
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: Because you get crowds built in. You're going to get
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: a better television audience, I would think.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: The bowl games aren't going to like it because they're
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: going to lose some big names to group six names.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: But that might be the statement for the bowl games.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: You've got people opting out right now. People really don't
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: care about these games.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe it keeps them in business. All right, that's going
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: to do it for us here on Sporting State. Clay
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: and Buck are up next, and we are continuing at
• 1:49:29
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