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BONUS: Athletics LLC EP9 'Responsibilities'-June 5, 2020 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  They talk about responsibilities.
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  So without further Ado, please help me.
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  Welcome episode 9 responsibilities from Athletics,
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  LLC. Hello, ladies and gentlemen,
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  welcome to another fun episode of Athletics, LLC as promised.
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  I'm going to go right to left instead of left to right.
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  So we're going to start this evening off with Lucius good
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  evening, everyone. Lamar's Johnson Ryan.
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  The third I do because I'm us and last but definitely not
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  least Clyde. Good evening, everyone
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  big-league. I see, you have a new setup and
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  magically Lamar does not. Hey, you know, where I live is
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  low-rent man. Congrats But on the new digs
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  niggly, correct, I know it's summertime, I had to relocate
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  that the dining room wasn't kicking it anymore.
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  The sunshine, are you like Ron Ron?
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  Burgundy? Do you have many leather-bound
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  books? But it's well, it's a good
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  movie. It's a good.
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  That was a good reference solution.
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  I'm good. I'm good.
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  Hey, Stay classy in the corner. Okay, there you go.
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  Well, we have to start off by addressing.
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  A unaddressed not identified topic from last week that was
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  brought to my attention. So we had addressed the
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  malfunctions of the team qualifications of our cross
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  country championships, but we wanted to add a little
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  clarification for the individuals.
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  So sir. Lucius if you don't mind take
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  that away. Well I think that when it comes
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  to the the individual stuff there's always been a thing in
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  place that if you're an individual that's on a team the
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  top Top whatever number is chosen qualifies for the next
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  level, that's always been a thing.
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  So I don't I'm not sure, you know, I think Lamar mentioned it
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  earlier. I'm not sure that part of his
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  broken. I think the bigger issue will
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  be, how do individuals that don't have a team, get qualified
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  for the first round, the regional part of.
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  So that's something I was, you know, that's something.
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  The committee has to come with the mean.
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  I'm sure that happens in golf. I'm sure it happens in tennis,
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  some of the other team / individual type Sports, and, you
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  know, that's for you. That's above our pay grade off
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  the figure that out, but in the day and also something was
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  mentioned to me, also that we they thought we were saying that
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  they ran the AKA at the regional level.
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  I am aware, they run the 10K trees will level but they do
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  qualify all your long getting points by running a cape.
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  So let me clarify that we are very aware that they run 10K at
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  the regional level but you do corner points at AK throughout
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  the year and a k and 10 K is quite a disparity.
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  Yes, one plus one does not equal two and I'm not in this case at
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  all. Well, let's get the night
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  started. We've got some great topics
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  tonight and let's start off with some of some of the NCAA
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  climate. That's being addressed out there
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  with NCAA Sports being physically, fiscally
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  responsible, where can we trim some of that fat without
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  actually cutting off the whole piece of me where how do we save
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  our programs and our coaches but still make some impact within
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  our Natural means that the NCAA is imparting on us.
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  Yeah, I can go first on this one.
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  I would probably that. I think that the biggest thing
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  for me is that we talked a lot about these athletic
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  associations, and he's University in businesses and
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  therefore, they have to be business minded.
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  And so when you're out there building facilities building,
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  you know, these these Cathedrals for football, not for the that
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  the track Cathedral, you leave that one alone.
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  But I think that we have to keep in mind that, you know, if you
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  can't afford to run your all your programs, we shouldn't be
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  pouring, tons and millions and millions of dollars into
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  facilities that you use for three or four months, you know.
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  Yeah, I understand it's a game of the finances who has the
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  prettiest dish in the most fat. But there's people's lives
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  involved, here they are, there's children.
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  In involved. And I think that we have to
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  think about that. So if you run it more like a
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  business, where you're trying to make a gain at the end of the
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  year, it's not about how big and how pretty you can build.
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  If you can't afford it, don't do that.
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  I think those are definitely places.
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  You could come back and you can say programs and you could save
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  coaches After you sir. For me, I would agree with all
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  of that. For me, this is always been an
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  interesting topic that keeping up with the Joneses.
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  This is obviously a big way that we have whatever you want to
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  call it waste Fraud and Abuse within the NCAA Sports room.
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  But for me, I look at it more. So to drill down into individual
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  sports in the way that they may conduct business.
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  For example, I never And I never understood.
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  And I've had things thrown at me for suggestions, but I don't
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  understand the idea that during football season, a home football
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  team needs to spend money on hotel rooms at my previous
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  school. I assure you that the home Hotel
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  budget for the football team was equal to or bigger than the
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  entire track and Field's travel bus.
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  I understand the football makes the most money.
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  I understand that basketball makes a lot of money, but they
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  also waste a lot of money. And so, I think that before
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  departments, get into the nitty-gritty of trying to reduce
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  salaries cut programs, fire coaches.
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  I think that it want to save the most money, if we're all have to
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  be more, fiscally responsible, I think you got to ask that same
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  Sacrifice from the people who burned the mold through the most
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  cash and that's obviously, Quote, unquote revving Sports,
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  which is a term that I have an issue with in general.
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  But to me though that's a, that's a really big example of
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  something that I know instantly could save small programs at
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  school X y&z. If you would just eliminate that
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  reality, now, the pushback that I've gotten on that comes from
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  certain. People have been all the
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  football. Players need to stay in the
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  hotels before their home football games.
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  It's a safety issue. I'm like really are they somehow
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  in more danger Monday. Day through Thursday then they
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  would be on Friday and Saturday. I don't really understand that
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  idea at all. I mean I know you got fans and
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  stuff but you know you got to do what you got to do.
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  Those kind of examples, you know, don't Nixon.
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  I couldn't, I could not agree with that particular example
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  anymore. I think I've all the things that
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  money gets spent on a Collegiate programs.
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  I think, that's the one that's never made any sense to me.
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  And I think we made it worse is when I was at, when I was at
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  Boise State, I asked coach Pete about it, like why they didn't
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  do it. And he just said, and then he
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  what he said to me, was it to make any sense.
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  So, here's one of the best football programs in the entire
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  country that won the most games in the 90s and, and the 2000s.
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  And they don't do it. So, you know, I, I couldn't
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  agree with you more there. I think from from the
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  perspective of other sports and doing things that you can do,
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  although it might be somewhat inconvenient.
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  I think, if all of have all of our track meets were other than
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  conference meets were, if they were all one day instead of two,
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  that will be a humongous savings that would allow us still to,
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  for the most part compute, our Seasons.
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  I think if you kept The majority like if it's a sport where
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  there's a conference tournament, like that's how you qualify for
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  the national meet then. It doesn't matter that you play
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  somebody three time zones away. I would say eliminate that and
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  make, you know, baseball basketball volleyball trap, make
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  their schedules, much more Regional.
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  There's no need to travel two and three time zones.
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  When you have to go through your time zone to get to the National
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  Championship, which at the end of the day, collegially is what
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  we're supposed to be doing. I think the most part track has
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  done that we don't very often. Do do three times on travels
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  anymore. We used to and every now, and
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  again, it happens. But you know, I just think just
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  simple things like that. Like, let's just see what that
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  does. If you eliminated football
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  football team staying at hotels at home games, and you made
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  track meets one one day instead of two and you made travel for
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  all team sports regional. I think that savings saves
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  everybody's job. And I think no Claude spoke to
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  the point of this is to keep it up with the Joneses deal and you
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  think that is so-and-so down the street store that I have to do
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  it as well, but you have to do what's best for your program and
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  was you know what's what you can afford, let's just put it out
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  there, you can't afford it, don't do it.
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  You know, I think that other thing too is, sometimes you get
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  caught up with, you know, well I heard that this is school X
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  built this, or we need to have it also and, you know, I've had
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  people say to me, well, I need this tool.
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  Win know what you need to win. Is you need great athlete.
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  Accompany coaching staff and the guts to go out of coaching hard
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  every day. That's what whence that's what
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  wins in any sport. But you know, new facility, No
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  More Travel and all that stuff. If those are things that kids
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  are looking for, and I'm not interested.
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  I want, I want athletes that want to come here.
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  Want to get a great education and two that are willing to get
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  there to get there hands. A little dirty, let's put it
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  that way. I definitely do that.
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  I mean the the shiny toys you get a lot of people use to sign
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  recruits. I've been winning playing
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  against that game for a long time.
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  Like yeah, School ex got all that but at the end of the day,
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  you got one stop squat rack at a time that you won't lifted.
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  And yeah, the tracks beat up, but at the end of the day
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  Olympians can train on it. So why can't you train on?
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  You know, now, having landed in the power 5, you know, I'm like,
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  oh wow, we have all these. We have all these toys out here
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  and it's amazing but it doesn't make the kids run any faster.
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  It doesn't make the coaches coaching better.
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  And so I've always been, you know, slightly Blown Away with
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  with like the keeping up with the Joneses ship, it just drives
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  me crazy because there are so many people that are trying to
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  do it. They do it badly and Italy, the
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  entire department, suffers for it.
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  And the Joneses you should be trying to keep up with other
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  ones that are winning. And I mean, by buying the things
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  that they have, I mean, like performing at the level that
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  they perform, that's how you can.
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  Absolutely. I think I think, I think a lot
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  of departments. If they take a different view
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  point of how to trim versus versus looking at it, at what we
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  should trim. I think that they would go get a
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  lot more stretch out of the dollars that they're trying to
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  you. Yeah.
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  So keeping in the realm of money and elevating the level little
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  bit. Let's talk about the shoe
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  companies and how we generate Revenue within our sport.
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  Are they helping us? Are they hurting us?
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  They the root of our problem. What is their stance on that are
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  they, are they going to help us? I don't know if persevere is
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  quite the word I want to use but Prosper.
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  Maybe if we're talking about, I mean, obviously we would just
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  talk about, you know, they do a phenomenal job of helping it the
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  colleges universities and the things that they do them.
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  But I think we're talking about the effect.
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  They have on the squirrel globally and thenö as my main
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  client likes to talk about that middle section, that needs to be
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  protected. I think that the big contracts
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  that the shoe companies award, these athletes is a big part of
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  the problem. Because then there's no, there's
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  no trickle-down, there's no money left and so those are the
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  people that get left out. So I think that if there It was
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  a more of a system, like some of the other professionals workers
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  had, you know, where there's a rookie cap on, how much money
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  you can make, that you have to go out and earn these huge
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  contracts that they come from winning medals and stuff like
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  that. And I just running faster.
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  Jumping far one time. I think that would change the
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  whole thing, but that's going to be something that it's kind of
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  like, you know, Clyde just talked about keeping up with the
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  Joneses. Well, if shoe company X is going
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  to pay you 500,000, I'm gonna offer you six.
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  Yes, and then it deprives just goes up and up and up and I
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  think that's a huge problem as far as the global effect of
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  development in the sport because those kids can't do that.
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  Middle faction can't afford them.
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  You know, it's an interesting question.
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  I'm kind of torn on that actually on one hand, the shoe
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  companies being bald in our sport are probably.
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  The reason that our sport has been able to survive, they
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  absolutely - we've done but I think their presence and their
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  exclusive presence also limit the potential growth for what
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  our sport can be. I don't know why our sport has
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  to be Purely backed by shoe companies.
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  Like I don't understand that and I don't understand the business
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  behind. Why administrator X y&z can't go
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  out and get a more a more broad array of sponsorship dollars
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  from from totally different entities.
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  And I think if the shoe companies didn't have such a
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  monopoly on the way things function in our sport ultimately
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  that would serve everybody better.
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  Better. But I honestly don't know the
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  mechanism to how that would happen or why it can't happen.
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  Hmm. Are we sure that the shoe
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  companies are the problem when it comes to get other
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  sponsorships? I don't get too expensive.
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  Damn, I get the sense that it's worth of the Congress were to
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  call themselves these days, right?
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  And, and that's, and that's what I'm saying.
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  I don't, I don't blame, you know, like we all understand
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  Nike is a huge benefactor of USA Track and Field.
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  I don't blame you for that. That's not Isis problem, but why
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  don't we Have 10 of those. Like why you know why can't we
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  have different entities? Maybe not another shoe company
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  per se because obviously that would be a concert conflict of
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  interest to Nike but y know why, whatever if Nikes going to put
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  up five million dollars, why can't Coca-Cola?
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  Put up the same five minutes and why do we not have people
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  working in those positions to make?
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  That kind of stuff happens? Like I don't under, I've never
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  understood that. Kind of a nice free on that one.
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  Clyde none whatsoever appetite, but after glutes are got the
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  answer. We're waiting on you.
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  I don't know that I have the answer, but I do know that we
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  can. I think we can do different
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  business differently and, and do a much be, but much better
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  stewards over the amount of money that the shoe companies do
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  put into our sport individually. Lucius hit that directly on the
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  head at the end of the day. I don't care how good of an
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  athlete you were in college. You should.
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  Not be immediately paid five times.
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  The amount of somebody that's one of the last two metals in
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  your event like that just doesn't make any sense to me.
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  And I don't necessarily want a cap on anybody, but I do think
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  some common sense should like at the end of the day.
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  If I look at two people and one's got two NCAA championships
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  and other one has no, incidentally championships and
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  two Olympic medals, no way. The NCAA Champion should be
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  getting out paid. You know what I mean?
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  Unless there's like a 20-year age difference in the first
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  person is like, at the end, like, I get that.
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  But that's not where we're at most times.
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  Like most times someone who's good, who's currently good.
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  Gets their money cut in order to pay the hot new Collegiate.
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  And that doesn't make any sense. That's part of what runs people
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  out of our Sport and makes people bitter within our sport.
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  What I would love to see happen. What I would love to see happen
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  is foundational wealth being spreadable spread into the
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  sport. What is the thing we've beat
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  this to death on four or five shows we need nor American tour,
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  we need more meets. I would love to see one shoe
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  company. Sponsor a meet just to meet
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  meaning is not only Nike athletes, it's not only Adidas
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  athletes but it's a track meet like partner with USA Track &
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  Field to put together a meat partner with Canadian Athletics
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  to put together a me, like, I would love to see that happen
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  and then to collapse point that that brings in the ability to go
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  after more. And more variant sponsors
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  because then there's other places that they can get product
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  placement right now, the way we have, it is pretty much like you
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  got one logo on your uniform and you got the athletes, unless
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  you're one of like, for sponsors that are willing to kick in a
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  large amount of go to USA Track and Field or World Athletics
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  went from the global perspective.
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  But for the most part, there's way more Billboards out there if
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  we would change the model and and offer different things.
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  If we put together, Whether series and said, hey look you
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  can sponsor an entire track meet.
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  So all the commercials for that whole track meet like every
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  third commercial is going to be yours, like those kind of
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  things. I think are out there and that
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  would that would build the the belly like we like to talk about
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  Clyde's. People that would build a
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  foundational platform for the belly group to go from
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  Collegiate to belly to Elite. Because right now, what happens
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  is like they end up being, you know, like, Raisins that dry up
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  on the vine right, like they're hot coming out of college but
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  not quite hot enough or they're not in quite hot enough of an
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  event or they got hurt at the wrong time.
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  And then the next two years, which we all know the first year
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  out of college is the hardest. And the next year, if you don't
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  have a shoe contract is literally make or break, though.
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  If, if you haven't done something in the first two years
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  after college, it's very difficult to continue doing I
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  would like to drill down on that on that particular point a
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  little bit about the rookie contracts and the despair
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  despair in the gaps between, you know, the people that deserve
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  and people haven't heard them yet.
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  Isn't part of the problem. That ultimately, the companies
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  that are signing these contracts are playing a very Sinister game
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  of, you know, it's Sinister guesswork from where I sit.
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  It's you know what? I'm going to bet on the age
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  rather than what we know to be true because we all understand
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  there are support my TV, most Cutthroat, when it comes to what
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  have you done for me lately Sports and it's because the
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  Olympics Cycles control the contracts and the Olympics ain't
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  but four years apart. So it's like, yeah, you did
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  this, you know, at the last Olympics but we need to know
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  what's going to happen for years ago.
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  And usually the companies are taking the bet it and if you're
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  28 or years from now, I'd rather put my money.
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  Money on the 19, you know, I mean like I think that's part of
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  the bad equation. If I could make it very Sinister
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  bet. But I think the biggest problem
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  you have is they're making bet on people that have never been
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  in the competitive fire, you know?
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  And so you take an athlete that wins the NCAA Championship.
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  Is there even participate in our USA championships and because
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  they were in really fast against people that weren't nearly as
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  fast as they were. You do much money am.
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  And I've always said this, we know you run 98 and second
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  places, 99 hired or 1000 different story when you run a
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  98 against 98 because then you're not 8 because you're not
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  used to that level. Petition, you're going to
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  antenna. And then now you gotta shoot
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  couple of wasted a bunch of money and I think that you
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  better served at, you know, we all talk about this to you.
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  Usually the average you talk on times, so you go in and you can
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  de done, you know, you run some very fast time that's two tenths
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  faster you were running your life.
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  Let me see. Missy, you do that again.
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  Before I give you this big chunk of money, let me see, you do it
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  against the people that are running, just as fast as you.
• 21:35
  That's what I want to see, you know?
• 21:37
  I think that's the biggest problem.
• 21:38
  I think I was sleep. You know, the more doesn't like
• 21:41
  the thought of a rookie captain. There has to be something done
• 21:44
  to say, you know, we gotta stop giving peanut because it's a lot
• 21:48
  of money to get spent on athletes such as never before
• 21:50
  Mulligan, losers. Would you like, would you say
• 21:53
  that that reality is equal or in the same ballpark, as the
• 21:59
  previous discussion? We were just having the
• 22:02
  companies are trying to keep up with the Joneses, the Russian I
• 22:05
  want to buy up all the rookie Talent holding two of them pop
• 22:09
  because at the end of the day, we still got our money.
• 22:12
  EE. And we can always just cut them,
• 22:14
  who on to the next thing. See, and you have the super
• 22:16
  classes of people that make it, you know, obviously rye and
• 22:19
  Sidwell goodbyes, you know. But you know they're also not in
• 22:24
  the Sprint events, you know, they're in there longer events.
• 22:26
  We were, you know, it's not quite as intense.
• 22:29
  Let's say, but you know there's also a bunch of people out there
• 22:32
  that have been given a bunch of money that we never hear from
• 22:34
  him. And that's, that's a problem.
• 22:36
  I think that you're absolutely right, you know?
• 22:38
  You look at some of the young offenders that were decided
• 22:41
  earlier this year. Yeah, one of them wouldn't have
• 22:47
  won the NCAA championships this year.
• 22:52
  I mean, and I think it's just funny to me, like, how sometimes
• 22:56
  people just aren't paying attention to, what else is out
• 22:58
  there? Like, look are, he's married is
• 23:00
  a world record holder, but when Terry signed his contract, he
• 23:03
  was grossly overpaid. He didn't, he didn't own that
• 23:06
  contract to like six or seven years into it.
• 23:09
  I said it, it's true. I love the man but it's just
• 23:11
  it's true right now and the pro hurdlers and the pros at the
• 23:17
  time, took it out on him for you.
• 23:21
  But now look at last year's class.
• 23:23
  Well I guess it's this year's class.
• 23:25
  Right? Look, whatever money.
• 23:27
  You throw a grant or Daniel is good money because if you look
• 23:31
  at the landscape, like you're paying for two guys at their
• 23:34
  times, put them in the final. Right?
• 23:37
  And they've run, he was evil. That's, that's that's no that
• 23:40
  doesn't work. Because the people that you pay
• 23:42
  for that their times we we talk about 1075 that makes them the
• 23:46
  champion. All right there and I don't know
• 23:49
  if you take grants top five and you take Daniel stop.
• 23:51
  I have an average. It hit me.
• 23:53
  That's not what you said. See you.
• 23:56
  Sorry sir. I'm on the same page as you
• 23:59
  their average and I'm just making sure because you know you
• 24:01
  will go off on your own book. Every now and it is sounded like
• 24:04
  he went BR it did this happen like this you look like you're
• 24:12
  gonna need it. The average, the average of
• 24:15
  those two dudes. That's a smart buy today.
• 24:19
  All right? But if you took, it can cause
• 24:20
  you took him if you took are Ruiz is top five.
• 24:23
  That's not six hundred thousand dollars a year.
• 24:25
  No chance welcome. But it but realistically is it,
• 24:29
  you know, I'm not trying to dog anybody.
• 24:31
  There's nobody that came out. This were six hundred thousand
• 24:33
  dollars because they haven't done anything, that's my point.
• 24:38
  You know? I'm glad you look.
• 24:39
  I'm not hating on me, but I'm glad you got a good contract but
• 24:42
  it's killing the rest of the sport.
• 24:45
  And then addition companies until they're battling over
• 24:47
  people that aren't battle-tested.
• 24:49
  We're let me, let me ask you all this.
• 24:51
  Would you? He'll different cause I think we
• 24:52
  all agree on them for lack of a better term.
• 24:56
  Rookie cap in some kind of way, would we feel differently about
• 24:59
  it? If the reality was, if the
• 25:03
  reality was not that in order to pay these youngins?
• 25:07
  We know that's with metals are being taken off the books.
• 25:12
  I think that's a part of it, right?
• 25:15
  See that? See Mommy, I don't feel
• 25:16
  different. I mean, I think, okay, even even
• 25:18
  if even if the vet are still getting taken care of, which it
• 25:21
  might be, This is I'm not, it's not my company was my company.
• 25:24
  I'm gonna take care of people to take care of me.
• 25:25
  Okay, I'm not gonna push, you pull out the door that have done
• 25:28
  well for me, but at the end of the day, I'm also not gonna
• 25:31
  overpay people, okay? Because I think they might get a
• 25:37
  medal. I think they might perform well
• 25:40
  over time. No, these this is, it's just
• 25:43
  very risky, very risky. I mean, again, I think that if
• 25:48
  the sports bettor is there is some kind of a rookie camp.
• 25:51
  At. So you can pay the veterans and
• 25:54
  then they don't get pushed out because, you know, you get, they
• 25:55
  get older, they have a bad year. Oh you're done.
• 25:58
  I'm not, I'm not redoing, I'll cut you back.
• 26:00
  You know, that is not my opinion that shouldn't happen between us
• 26:02
  discuss. These are some of the Stars just
• 26:04
  happened to. I mean, I think to lucious is
• 26:07
  point, like it again, if I'm running the shoe companies, I
• 26:10
  paid salaries that make sense, and I set up ridiculous bonus
• 26:15
  structures, because at the end of the day, like, hey, you
• 26:17
  earned that, if you can kill me a water buffalo, I'll pay for
• 26:20
  that. You know what I mean?
• 26:22
  But I'm not I don't want to pay you because I think you can go
• 26:25
  kill the water buffalo. You know what I mean?
• 26:27
  I don't want to pay you because I think you're a good Hunter.
• 26:29
  I want to pay you because you came back out of the woods with
• 26:32
  that was a better analogy. Don't your water buffalo things.
• 26:35
  A little bit water. Buffalo was big, man, that is
• 26:38
  huge in the juice, that's why yeah, definitely.
• 26:43
  Yeah. Talking about top tier, and, you
• 26:47
  know, those competing for those top positions looking into the
• 26:51
  The Olympics 2021. Now, who are some of the top
• 26:54
  rivalries that we're looking forward to seeing who are going
• 26:57
  to watch fight it out that it out.
• 27:00
  Alright, the Birdman is, he's ready.
• 27:02
  Let's let's look at it, go. Let it go.
• 27:06
  You know what? Oh wow, I am without question.
• 27:15
  Looking forward to the two Young Guns in the hurdles because I do
• 27:19
  believe that they're both going to make the team.
• 27:21
  I do believe. That both going to make the
• 27:22
  final and I do believe it's going to be a bloodbath all the
• 27:25
  way to the Finish somebody's falling and at the finish line
• 27:28
  with blood all over their chest and to look I think that the
• 27:33
  men's 400 hurdles as I'm not going to take.
• 27:37
  I know Chuck wants to win this for hurdle.
• 27:38
  So I'm going to the men's going to hurdles, he's going to be
• 27:43
  ridiculous. I think if I think if Samba and
• 27:49
  and We're home, Samba and War home, show up, ready and and and
• 27:56
  prepared and John Wick shows up with his dog.
• 27:59
  Like, it's going to be a fight to the end and at some point in
• 28:04
  time, some announcers going to call the wrong person, winning
• 28:08
  that race. Like I think it's going to do
• 28:10
  one of these numbers down the stretch and I am here for it.
• 28:14
  I'm popping popcorn to watch that, okay?
• 28:19
  He's going to use the good butter that day.
• 28:21
  Absolutely. What you got.
• 28:25
  Glad first of all, what I have is a slap upside.
• 28:29
  The head of mr. Marr there because he tried to
• 28:32
  play me. I did as if he didn't already
• 28:35
  know that the man's form of hurdles is by far.
• 28:39
  Yes, only if you tell me, where's one event that I want to
• 28:42
  watch next year. It's the men's 400 hurdles and
• 28:45
  he knows this. Absolutely and that's cute and
• 28:50
  well played sir, but no listen to It's the men's 400 hurdles.
• 28:54
  It's not to me it's not even if as far as excitement goes, as
• 28:59
  far as the war that I want to see and the little nuances that
• 29:04
  come along with it to me it's like a boxing match because we
• 29:08
  all know Styles make fights. And what Rai Benjamin is capable
• 29:14
  of doing and the different tools that he can bring to that race
• 29:17
  versus what war home wants to do versus what Samba, no one really
• 29:21
  knows what sambas thing is like, Like round well right and you
• 29:28
  couldn't honestly you could throw in some other people into
• 29:30
  their as the wild-card to. Like there's like legitimately
• 29:33
  to me there's four or five dudes that can come up with a metal
• 29:36
  but it's clearly those three. And to me, I just want to see it
• 29:41
  play out because I think stylistically I think from a
• 29:44
  competitive standpoint, I think you can be epic at a level of
• 29:48
  performance that we just really haven't seen.
• 29:50
  And I still hold to the case that if ride does.
• 29:53
  What He is capable of doing rise.
• 29:56
  The one in that makes the can run 45 seconds.
• 30:00
  I believe that boy can run 45 seconds.
• 30:02
  I don't think the others can, they're not fast enough, but he
• 30:06
  can, but in order to run that race, that way, he's going to
• 30:09
  have to commit to things that would blow most people's minds.
• 30:14
  And so to me that's the most exciting field and then of
• 30:17
  course from a purely American side, I don't care what year it
• 30:22
  is. The women's 100 meter hurdles
• 30:24
  are always a bloodbath. You have no idea who's gonna
• 30:27
  make that team. There's No way you could ever
• 30:30
  predict that and we have too many just fabulous talents in
• 30:34
  that event and at the reality of that event, is there going to be
• 30:38
  four or five women left home? That could easily sweep medal
• 30:41
  count. So, that's always a favorite for
• 30:44
  me to watch. I don't care if I'm, if I have a
• 30:46
  dog in that fight or not, I love watching that.
• 30:53
  And I'm a big fan of them in Florida hurdles but I'm really
• 30:58
  excited. I want to see the women's 400 I
• 31:01
  think after what Nasser did this year?
• 31:05
  No one lance and Sean a. I think that there's a there's a
• 31:09
  big comeback plan, you know, I think that that think that's
• 31:12
  going to be a big battle. I think the men's hundreds going
• 31:14
  to be freaking fantastic. I do, you know, I just I just
• 31:19
  think that would calm and Baker and wild was talking about
• 31:23
  running it. I just think it's his think it's
• 31:25
  gonna get hot and there's somebody's gonna show up, you
• 31:27
  know, I was going to say isn't Dragon Ball Z doing the double.
• 31:30
  Yeah, exactly. You know.
• 31:31
  So obviously I've got it, I've got some steak in the misfired
• 31:35
  race and I do agree, it's going to be quite the bloodbath, you
• 31:39
  know. I think it's, you know, yet two
• 31:40
  great young competitors who were both hungry and I think that's
• 31:43
  going to be a phenomenal race. I think the women's 400 hurdles,
• 31:48
  it's time for 51 seconds, it will no doubt about that, but
• 31:52
  that's coming, you know what those two, I don't, I think the
• 31:56
  biggest thing is, if those two were helping ready to run, like
• 31:59
  who's gonna complain, it's just those
• 32:17
  I want to see the mint 400 be a great race.
• 32:19
  You know, I think, because I think the talent is there, you
• 32:22
  got to behave in. You got the Americans, you know,
• 32:24
  there's do you know, you got guys, like Ronnie James are just
• 32:27
  kind of floating around, you know, like let's make that race
• 32:31
  against like killer. I'd love to see that and they'll
• 32:38
  come out the middle of street and twelve Lanes.
• 32:40
  I said, you know what, let me, let me answer that at least for
• 32:45
  me. 400. Isn't as sexy unless waived van
• 32:50
  niekerk is back and ready to run because I don't care.
• 32:54
  Whoever wins whoever, regardless of what they run, if that dude
• 32:58
  isn't in the on the track in the final, I'm going to be the
• 33:02
  person be like yeah. But what about now Steven breaks
• 33:05
  the world record waiting, got to be at that, makes it sexy.
• 33:09
  Well, that's fine, that's someone's running, 40 to 90
• 33:17
  then. Not yet, you know that's
• 33:20
  actually yeah. And and let me add this not
• 33:23
  because of the spectacular Earnest of it but because of the
• 33:28
  just at least from the American perspective, I'm I'm really
• 33:32
  waiting to watch the women's hundred meter dash at the
• 33:35
  Olympic trials, for the total opposite of the women's hurdles,
• 33:40
  where we have four or five women who are going to be left home,
• 33:43
  that should be medalist in the women's hundred who's the team.
• 33:48
  We have no like there's no discernible threat coming out of
• 33:51
  America right now and 100 meter dash.
• 33:53
  Not right now, not right now. And is anyone going to challenge
• 33:57
  the Jamaicans? We have no idea.
• 34:00
  I couldn't tell you who's afraid of, who is a favorite to make
• 34:02
  that team. It's the most wide open as far
• 34:05
  as an American Sprint I've ever seen men side.
• 34:08
  We have three or four guys that we know are going to be the mix
• 34:11
  to make the team the women. I've no idea.
• 34:14
  That that would be hard to argue, you know, but you know
• 34:17
  it's it's the United States is the Olympic year.
• 34:21
  The they'll be some tips. I wasn't in a Shore.
• 34:24
  Yeah but what I don't know and nobody knows.
• 34:44
  There's somebody out in California somewhere.
• 34:46
  No, no, I'm girl, Smitty, jeez. Probably got something.
• 34:49
  I personally know, I know you got a young lady that you work
• 34:52
  with that. Think she can make that team as
• 34:53
  well. So, and she's the only one that
• 34:56
  has room 10-8. So at the big stage, I think
• 35:00
  that I agree that you can't pick a favorite.
• 35:04
  You can't pick the team right now, but I also like I said,
• 35:08
  it's the United States is the Olympic trials, they're going to
• 35:10
  show up and it's going to be hot and it's going to be fun.
• 35:14
  I know if they have the Olympic Final on the turn, I know who's
• 35:17
  going to win. They don't have that.
• 35:22
  So we don't have to go with what we got.
• 35:55
  The greatest of all time because he got everything else.
• 36:01
  Okay, so if we're going to take a focused attention on to the
• 36:05
  field and we should we often neglect the field, we all
• 36:08
  understand that. Shame on us.
• 36:11
  Shame on us. No, let me, let me say, let me
• 36:29
  say that. Unequivocally unequivocal The
• 36:31
  greatest competition I've ever seen and I wasn't there in
• 36:35
  purpose in person the greatest competition I ever saw was the
• 36:39
  Doha shot. Put men yeah.
• 36:42
  You talking about everybody's healthy, everybody's ready to
• 36:45
  go. That right there is an
• 36:47
  incredible. Incredible group of people that
• 36:50
  I would pay any amount of money to watch compete, the ministry
• 36:54
  years of training, just think about that.
• 36:56
  It's about shot footage with an extra year to lift.
• 36:59
  Hey, listen, it was, it was Phenomenal.
• 37:02
  The drama of it. The back-and-forth that was
• 37:05
  fantastic. And that, that's a hell of a
• 37:07
  group and I would pay whatever to watch that for sure.
• 37:12
  Nice. I like those highlights that
• 37:14
  that that close out of highlights will keep everybody
• 37:17
  on their seats and that in their seats and walk.
• 37:19
  It would you fight off colds? So I have a question.
• 37:25
  So who are some athletes that you guys would like to see
• 37:29
  overcome injury overcome age or whatever it is and get back to
• 37:33
  the big stage and show the potential that you think that
• 37:36
  they did? You think they have Mmm.
• 37:43
  Tiana. See.
• 37:45
  That's sweet yet. No that's looking at that.
• 37:47
  I mean that's easy and it is it is too easy.
• 37:51
  You know what man that's my spirit.
• 37:53
  See if you ask the question, Okay.
• 38:15
  Wilson hasn't missed anything that so that it get you said
• 38:18
  come back from things. I know not everybody knows what
• 38:20
  he's coming back from but yeah I see touche Touche on the women's
• 38:26
  side. If I'm going to stay in the
• 38:28
  field, my personal investment in it.
• 38:32
  Aside, the women's long jump isn't as good if T and Brittany
• 38:40
  aren't ready to go. Now the mahom bow has jumped
• 38:43
  7:30. I would love to watch Tiana and
• 38:47
  Brittany at their best battling. The person who's sitting right
• 38:52
  now with the world championship when neither one of them were in
• 38:54
  the final at seven at with a PR 7:30, that would be a fantastic
• 38:59
  thing to watch. And obviously I have, you know,
• 39:02
  personal investment in that. But, you know, on the women's
• 39:05
  side, I'll on the track. Come back feeling.
• 39:10
  I mean, it's Easy to say Allison because we all know that she's
• 39:13
  trying to make this run but I don't know.
• 39:18
  I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure anybody
• 39:21
  does. Anybody think Alice is not going
• 39:22
  to come back, prepare to curb stomp people next year, but
• 39:26
  she's really good last year when she had a kid Get a whole year.
• 39:42
  Okay, so that's not good enough. No that's not good enough.
• 39:48
  The question is can a battle who I consider to be the righteous
• 39:53
  world record holder and Boop's the second best of all time,
• 39:56
  Shawn a Miller because that's where that event is right now.
• 39:59
  Take, take the, you know, the crazy Madness of the past that
• 40:03
  we all know was tainted out of the picture and you got the
• 40:06
  world record holder in the second best ever in their Prime
• 40:09
  right now. And she crack that because
• 40:12
  that's what everybody's waiting to see.
• 40:14
  No one cares if she's on the team and makes the final until
• 40:17
  finishing 6th or 7th, I mean, who cares like can I, you know,
• 40:21
  I'm Allison and Bobby, you know, you got two of the best ever to
• 40:25
  do it and if anybody can they will for me.
• 40:30
  I really want to see Marquis did to get back to being that guy.
• 40:33
  That that's my pretty. Obviously I'm not a personal
• 40:37
  stake because he's a gator. But I mean, I know his talent.
• 40:40
  I know he's had a lot of injuries.
• 40:42
  I'd love to see him, get back to where, you know, where I know he
• 40:46
  could be, you know, I'm personally pulling 40.
• 40:50
  That's my homegirl. I think that she's either of the
• 40:54
  pride of passion, she brings to the runway, she's right and
• 40:58
  Brittany's, right. That's It's a wonderful thing to
• 41:00
  watch. Yeah, I'm really love to see
• 41:02
  that he didn't and he's an interesting case for me because
• 41:05
  we all understand how Towns at that dude is.
• 41:08
  And unfortunately we've never got to.
• 41:11
  We never got to see him on those stages yet, right?
• 41:14
  I mean like that's dude like we're like oh my God if anybody
• 41:17
  can step in there and be the next person to legitimately
• 41:21
  threatened will and Clay, I always thought about it and just
• 41:25
  you know, too much bad luck you know something yeah.
• 41:29
  We I'd love to see that. Yeah, that Tina that that that's
• 41:32
  my big one right there. I'm really, really pulling for
• 41:34
  him. I mean I know this is odd
• 41:36
  because I do this person hasn't been injured but for whatever
• 41:38
  reason, like I would like to cij Wilson win.
• 41:44
  I mean, she just seems like she just seems like she has been
• 41:46
  nothing. But like elegant.
• 41:50
  She never says anything bad. She never does anything but that
• 41:52
  I've seen she had the one little meat scandal but like, you know
• 41:55
  I mean like she's it's just all. She's done is just show up and
• 41:59
  be classy. She lost last year and it was
• 42:01
  one of the most classy you know things I've ever seen someone
• 42:05
  do. And so I guess if I'm rooting
• 42:07
  for someone that I have no rooting interest in other than I
• 42:10
  just think she's pretty cool. Like I would love to see see her
• 42:12
  win. You know what?
• 42:17
  I just, I just thought of one. I just thought of one Cory
• 42:20
  Carter. I'd love to see Corey Carter
• 42:23
  returned to form because when she was right, when she won that
• 42:27
  world championship, a lot of people were blown away by it
• 42:31
  because she wasn't, you know, the favorite but she stepped up
• 42:34
  there and took that title didn't even call that.
• 42:37
  I mean I might have called it but I did I did.
• 42:51
  To be Petty, because in this context, there was no reason for
• 42:54
  me to be petted. I'm not being petty, I'm just
• 42:56
  giving you props, you told me. You thought she said, I
• 42:59
  appreciate that, but no and do. I think Corey Quran 51?
• 43:03
  I have no idea. But the third person in that mix
• 43:08
  between poori between Ashley between schmear little like,
• 43:12
  that's a really, really, really talented group of women.
• 43:16
  And, you know, again, there's going to be two metal,
• 43:18
  potentials that will be left at home from that group, but court
• 43:21
  I ain't been right. The last couple last few years
• 43:23
  and I'd like to see be in that mix competitive unless we need
• 43:27
  somebody to meet finals, the finals and we can see the Quarry
• 43:30
  car to warm up face again. Yeah, II think for me on the
• 43:34
  women's side I'd really like to see, Kyra, Jefferson.
• 43:37
  Get back to where I know she can be and obviously that's personal
• 43:39
  for me as well. And I just lost her name.
• 43:44
  All of a sudden that young lady the fell for Morgan, It's just
• 43:49
  even chemical agent. Stevens was, I just think she's
• 43:51
  phenomenal and I would love to see how he talk about a girl
• 43:55
  that won 11 0 and 1, 2200 and split 49.
• 43:59
  I mean, I'd love to see her get back.
• 44:02
  I'd love to see she came a wiggly.
• 44:04
  So I thought she was on a greatest Center to being to do
• 44:08
  to doing very well in the 400. I think people like that did
• 44:13
  this guy just think there's going to be some surprises next
• 44:15
  year and I'm excited to watch that.
• 44:17
  I'm excited to be a part of And just no.
• 44:19
  See, Lippi trials is in the cathedral.
• 44:22
  My man Clyde says, it's going to be great.
• 44:25
  It's gonna be great, you know, I do have I do have one more field
• 44:28
  of enter that I'm dead. That's that's coming back from
• 44:31
  injury that I'm definitely rooting for and that's because I
• 44:33
  think he's had an incredible career and incredible impact on
• 44:36
  his event are Canard. No, like I am really looking
• 44:41
  forward to him, being back and healthy and bouncing because
• 44:44
  look on that, dudes, talking to the bar and he's doing all the
• 44:47
  things he does. He is great for our sport bed
• 44:51
  and he is really talented. He's a lot of fun.
• 44:55
  And I mean, he'll, I mean, he do sponsored by air by Jordan,
• 44:59
  like, that's a big deal for our sport.
• 45:01
  You know what I mean? Like, yeah.
• 45:02
  And so like I do for, I do room for him because he's never done
• 45:07
  it anyway. But But the right way he's
• 45:10
  always been a gracious and humble young man.
• 45:13
  And again basically you know, in a quiet fashion just on, you
• 45:19
  know, when he's there, he does what he does and he entertains
• 45:21
  but other than that, you don't hear anything but good things
• 45:23
  out. Well, let's take it one notch
• 45:27
  further than that. Oh you got you know where we
• 45:34
  crowning the queen vote all time. 100 meters per hour.
• 45:43
  U.s. u.s. America.
• 45:45
  Let me give you the parameters of the state.
• 45:47
  Yeah. Come on.
• 45:47
  We're talking about u.s. limited and we're going to
• 45:51
  differentiate, we're going to do one to the Collegiate and one
• 45:53
  for the pros, so they can differ.
• 45:56
  Okay? So 100-meter goat USA,
• 46:02
  professional level Collegiate, level women, interested, I guess
• 46:10
  I haven't gone first yet, so, I guess I have to eat them.
• 46:14
  He had to pick your pick, your topic.
• 46:18
  Okay, well, on the professional side, I think, I think all of us
• 46:23
  and and whatever audience we trickle in with here, need some
• 46:28
  context. So, here's the list.
• 46:30
  Okay. Number 14 by time.
• 46:34
  The time list is global Joe jet. At Marion Jones, that's the top
• 46:42
  three English Gardener at number four, its shikari Richardson.
• 46:48
  At number five, Evelyn Ashford at number 6, Don swell at number
• 46:53
  7 Torri Edwards. At number 8 Jana Bartolotta at
• 46:57
  number 9, and Tory Bowie is number 10, but understand eight,
• 47:02
  and nine and ten. All have the same PR 1078.
• 47:07
  So those are the top 10 women On the list.
• 47:11
  All-time hundred meters, if you're asking me.
• 47:16
  To me, anyone outside of that list is out of the conversation.
• 47:19
  So to me, if you're asking me to choose the goat from that list,
• 47:25
  man, it's a tough. Tough choice between Jet and
• 47:32
  between Evelyn Ashford. And for me, Given who she had to
• 47:39
  compete against in the era that she had to compete.
• 47:42
  I'm taking Evelyn Ashford That's my goat women's hundred meters
• 47:46
  for the u.s., I'll Circle back for the Collegiate.
• 47:50
  I'll go next. I'm gonna say that it's not
• 47:54
  somebody's even on the list. All right?
• 47:56
  Yeah, that's what might the go for me is guilty two-time
• 48:01
  Olympic champion. You just can't beat that.
• 48:04
  And, you know, she did this all while also doubling up on a
• 48:08
  pretty dadgum good and it hurts. But no, she was world champion
• 48:13
  and Olympic champion. She made I think for Olympic
• 48:16
  teams but the big thing is, she won the Olympics back-to-back.
• 48:21
  And so, when you're talking about the goat, he showed up
• 48:24
  when it counted the most on the biggest stage that there is in
• 48:27
  track and field and she want, yeah engine, she did it.
• 48:32
  She did it with Grace, did it with class.
• 48:34
  So girls might go to that level for the, for the USA Bravo.
• 48:38
  I knew one of you would do that Gail officially for those, that
• 48:41
  don't know, since number 12 on that list and what 80?
• 48:44
  To yep. Number 12, on our list of 10.
• 48:49
  So, you know, I guess, the problem for me is the only two
• 48:52
  contenders in my mind are AR Gael and Evelyn, and that's a
• 49:00
  tough one for me to separate them.
• 49:04
  Gail one twice, Evelyn was racing dudes.
• 49:07
  So it's, it is what it is. Look, it is, I mean, I'm not
• 49:14
  even That's not even a joke. She was radiant with my seduce
• 49:17
  to then. Come on now.
• 49:19
  No, no, no, wait. Look in the 75 us a check today.
• 49:23
  Hey, I'm checking the tape from the 70s and early 80's everyone
• 49:27
  was racing against females that were taking so much growth
• 49:31
  hormone and so many different combinations of steroids.
• 49:34
  They were not discernible as females anymore, but I'll say,
• 49:39
  so in my mind, basically, the way I pick is like it.
• 49:42
  Look, if those two raced each other, who wins first, All I'm
• 49:45
  definitely popping popcorn and sitting there watching every
• 49:47
  ounce of that. And I would love to see the add
• 49:49
  the announcer announced that Otto would be a great announcer
• 49:52
  for that race has even bring up. He would bring up some really
• 49:55
  good stuff, but I guess I just, I'd have to, I have to agree
• 50:00
  with lucious that, like, at the end of the day, I believe Evelyn
• 50:04
  would never lose to anybody, but Gail didn't write the end of the
• 50:08
  day, like, I kind of got to go with that, like, back-to-back
• 50:11
  Olympic champion like while she Bubbling, no less this seat and
• 50:17
  then, and now was tough for me because I'm a big Evelyn fan.
• 50:20
  We talked about Islam before I love it, but like it's hard
• 50:24
  back-to-back. I mean, it's just it, just makes
• 50:27
  it tough. Yeah, I agree.
• 50:29
  It would be a heck of a race girls jumping out.
• 50:31
  It was coming hard. The last 20 meters, there's a
• 50:33
  big lead at the line is, there always is with you.
• 50:36
  You know, you know and say I do we are going to get pushback.
• 51:00
  Okay, we're going to get, we're going to get pushed back from
• 51:03
  the How is Flo Jo not to go? We're going to get pushed back
• 51:08
  from the from the Marion Jones. Okay.
• 51:10
  So so who's gonna tell you? Okay.
• 51:15
  So now I'm gonna do the same thing we talked about.
• 51:19
  Here's look here is the world record already had a phenomenal
• 51:22
  year? Does that make him the greatest
• 51:24
  of all time? Is closure D.
• 51:26
  Fastest of all time. Absolutely.
• 51:29
  But when it comes to the gold conversation, I look more at the
• 51:32
  overall career type of thing and she didn't want to to Olympic
• 51:38
  100-meter titles. So that's your name.
• 51:41
  So push back. All you want.
• 51:43
  Just I would get pushback about the stuff.
• 51:44
  Hey, it's my opinion, you got yours and not just that like I
• 51:48
  think like I'm not sure be funny.
• 51:49
  I think the people we would get pushback from people who don't,
• 51:53
  you got to live a little bit and you got to see if you got to see
• 51:55
  all see the entire field before you can you can give an answer
• 51:58
  like that like Look Carl Lewis is not now.
• 52:00
  Nor has he ever been to world record holder in the long jump?
• 52:02
  And I don't think anybody including my power would ever
• 52:05
  argue. That car was a greatest long
• 52:07
  jumper of all time. so at the end of the day, like he just
• 52:11
  doesn't have the world record, you know, like no one will ever
• 52:16
  repeat. Flo-Jo see here like I don't
• 52:21
  think that's I don't think that's ever coming back.
• 52:23
  I don't think anybody's going to run and just curb stomp
• 52:26
  everybody. The way she did that year.
• 52:30
  But unfortunately, we did like we got a year of that 21-7 was
• 52:34
  second in the 2134 race. Nobody else.
• 52:37
  Nobody knows. It's not even in this picture
• 52:40
  frame. So don't get me wrong.
• 52:43
  I think, I think Florence was an incredible athlete.
• 52:46
  She did incredible things, she had a phenomenal year and more
• 52:49
  If nominal summer and she did some other good things along the
• 52:53
  way. But you know, for me for my go
• 52:56
  conversation, I'm going with Gail because she won
• 52:59
  back-to-back on a lot of details.
• 53:01
  Okay, so I guess I got a circle back around and go first with
• 53:04
  the Collegiate. Actually, the Collegiate isn't
• 53:06
  really difficult for me and I'm gonna go all the way Homer on
• 53:09
  that. I know what books, it's Angela
• 53:12
  Williams. I knew that was Angela Williams.
• 53:15
  Freshman wanted sophomore, wanted Junior, wanted senior
• 53:19
  wanted, and I'll remember many of those races.
• 53:21
  Being all that close, it's Angela Williams.
• 53:25
  And we're not gonna argue about this.
• 53:27
  One is Angela Williams and Right.
• 54:14
  Like we look, they've been a hole like that.
• 54:16
  Look, if you look at the national all-time list in the
• 54:19
  within the girls hundred, that is a Litany of.
• 54:23
  Wow, you were really good when you were 14 and 15 and 4 and she
• 54:27
  was, she was a monstar as a high school senior.
• 54:31
  And then got to the freshman year is like y'all just older
• 54:33
  than me beat all them and then it just got worse and then her
• 54:36
  senior year when she was a little bit off and everybody
• 54:41
  else was running out of their mind.
• 54:43
  There was people in the stands Betten and Angela was finally
• 54:46
  going to lose. And I was like I will take all
• 54:47
  of those tests every one of those bets because I'm like, I'm
• 54:51
  never betting against somebody who has beaten everybody all the
• 54:54
  time and when and then you know and she's also obviously another
• 54:59
  topic as far as lead off the Fallout 1 on the Collegiate
• 55:02
  level and close, that's Angela Williams but she ran by whoever
• 55:07
  was in front of her but I would say this This Danza Wells for
• 55:15
  senior year, There Was Not a Human Being Alive.
• 55:18
  There was ever going to be her Collegiate, write anything, but
• 55:22
  it was a year, but it was a year.
• 55:25
  Yeah. Right.
• 55:26
  And the bad part, that the thing that sucks is that we didn't get
• 55:29
  to see, like Phenom because the sport was different, then we
• 55:32
  didn't get to see phenomenal, professional careers out of
• 55:35
  either, one of them, but I think if they had come along now, we
• 55:38
  would have. Hmm.
• 55:40
  Oh, you know, like like Dawn would have got offered like
• 55:43
  sick. 100 grand out of college and she would have ran track as
• 55:46
  opposed to going to like live life.
• 55:48
  You know. And Angela would have got
• 55:50
  offered that kind of money and she would have ran track like as
• 55:53
  the pro and not going on to live life and it would come back
• 55:56
  later on. And when the rodent or temps in
• 55:58
  the 60s, he did. But you know what I'm saying?
• 56:01
  Like, well, I'm saying, we, I think we all would have loved to
• 56:05
  seen them, like, Peak them, their next three or four years
• 56:09
  as Pros. If we could have seen it because
• 56:11
  it would have been amazing. Yeah.
• 56:13
  A lot of people in, for me, you know, me and as aliens are
• 56:17
  roughly about the same age. So I got to watch this from age
• 56:22
  group all the way through. Yeah.
• 56:25
  Taketake the professional stuff out of it.
• 56:27
  If there was no protract, you make the case that Angie was the
• 56:31
  greatest partner ever. Yeah, they hated everything she
• 56:36
  had at one point. You look at one point, you look
• 56:39
  at the national a book, he had them all.
• 56:41
  Yes, my all of them. Is he was nuts, man.
• 56:45
  It was like, oh my gosh, you broke Angela Williams record,
• 56:49
  that's the knuth, right? Exactly.
• 56:50
  Yeah guy, I agree. I think that that's a people,
• 56:55
  like, I'm just kidding, but I loved I loved the way they
• 56:58
  handle the event. Um, I thought the young lady
• 57:02
  from Alabama. Can't think of her name right
• 57:04
  now. Few years back was the Jamaican,
• 57:07
  girl, she was, I thought her race model was really nice.
• 57:10
  I think Aleeah Hobbs was was nice too.
• 57:13
  Watch me, she really set it up well, she transitioned well, I
• 57:19
  think that the organ Girls when they were one prandini and that
• 57:23
  crew that they were fun to watch, there's a lot there's a
• 57:29
  lot of good ones out there. I mean, for me like just fun to
• 57:32
  watch, I mean, I know I'm a much older than Clyde but quit when
• 57:38
  towards in college and that Georgia uniform She was tough.
• 57:43
  What? Like look it's not it was not a
• 57:45
  technical video to watch but from a competitive standpoint
• 57:51
  what take shoes off running the streets, she's winning for sure
• 57:57
  like race. My wife was really tough, she
• 58:03
  was She was got it. Well, I went to turn the dial a
• 58:08
  little bit and we're going to address the elephant that's in
• 58:12
  all of our yards at this point. I know.
• 58:15
  Water buffalo. Exactly.
• 58:17
  There you go. What's the escort that bad boy
• 58:20
  in? Let's address, our current
• 58:24
  social climate, you know, there are a lot of things that are
• 58:28
  going on right now in our backyards, in our cities,
• 58:31
  specifically where everyone is located.
• 58:34
  You know, there are going to be some, there are a lot of
• 58:39
  emotions. Being felt, what are your
• 58:43
  thoughts, where your stances? You know, how are we feeling
• 58:46
  right about now I have had every wave of emotional possible over
• 58:52
  the last couple of weeks I've been mad, I've been pissed, I've
• 59:00
  teared up, I've been sick to my stomach.
• 59:04
  No, this is something that's been going on for far too long.
• 59:08
  I just don't and it's just it's just hard to even talk about but
• 59:13
  this is not a black problem, this is a societal problem.
• 59:17
  This is a problem that is only ever going to.
• 59:19
  Stop is only ever going to come to an end when people of all
• 59:23
  colors band together to make it stop, you know, it's a voting
• 59:28
  problem, it's a some voice problem, you know.
• 59:31
  It's a problem with was if you have if you You are Caucasian,
• 59:36
  you have Caucasian friends and you allow them to tell jokes
• 59:39
  about African-Americans to disparage other races.
• 59:41
  Then you're just as wrong as they are silenced.
• 59:44
  Simply means acceptance in this case and until we stand together
• 59:50
  it's not going to stop. I'm 60 years old and no.
• 59:54
  Do you like to believe that things have gotten better?
• 59:56
  And just when you think that they're a little better you wake
• 1:00:00
  up to the news that we've had over the last not just you know
• 1:00:03
  this last few weeks. Has been horrid and you realize
• 1:00:07
  nothing's really changed. His Will Smith said it's just
• 1:00:11
  being recorded. Oof.
• 1:00:25
  Very much like lucious. I think I have had every emotion
• 1:00:31
  in the last three or four days at that, my body will produce.
• 1:00:36
  I ain't no water. I have been fearful because I
• 1:00:41
  have two young black boys. I have been angry.
• 1:00:48
  I have been sorrowful, I have I've been just disillusion, like
• 1:00:57
  where do I live? And, and, and I've been asked,
• 1:01:04
  or forced to play educator, to, to some people.
• 1:01:08
  Some I didn't mind some, I was angry that I had to educate.
• 1:01:14
  I've had to defend, some things that should never have had to be
• 1:01:22
  defended and I think, for me, where we're at, at this point is
• 1:01:29
  just that I don't think that that that black people will take
• 1:01:37
  any further excuses meaning at this point in time.
• 1:01:41
  I think that the black people in America require everyone who was
• 1:01:45
  not black to pick a side, they're the silent majority.
• 1:01:50
  Like I've said this, the last three days The Silence has been
• 1:01:52
  definitely and the silent majority.
• 1:01:55
  No longer gets to sit back in the in the weeds and and respond
• 1:02:00
  to tweets and texts that are are safe.
• 1:02:03
  But then when issues real issues come up and you put out tweets
• 1:02:06
  or taxes. They are noticeably absent in
• 1:02:10
  your mansions. And I think we're most
• 1:02:13
  African-Americans are, and I'm not speaking for everyone, but
• 1:02:16
  this is just my what I think based on what I've seen.
• 1:02:19
  And what I've read most African-Americans are now at the
• 1:02:22
  point where They want everybody. They noted to take aside
• 1:02:26
  weigh-in as to where you're at and look where you are is where
• 1:02:30
  you are. I'm not going to feel good or
• 1:02:32
  bad about you, but I just need to know where you are.
• 1:02:34
  And I think that where we're at as a group is this as a people
• 1:02:39
  like we just can't deal with the silence anymore. you know, look,
• 1:02:43
  I'm looking at statistics and African Americans make up 13
• 1:02:48
  percent of the u.s. population and 40% which is the plurality
• 1:02:51
  of members in prison. that can only happen if your, Being
• 1:03:00
  targeted. Because because the numbers
• 1:03:03
  don't make any sense. There's no way that this should
• 1:03:08
  be more African-Americans in jail than there are Caucasians
• 1:03:11
  or anybody else because we don't make enough of we don't make up
• 1:03:14
  enough in the population for that to be true.
• 1:03:17
  And I think where it's been most poignant for me, and like, I had
• 1:03:21
  a very visceral and very, very good conversation with, with a
• 1:03:25
  white male cop friend of mine. And and I feel very, very
• 1:03:31
  adamant about this, the world changed for African Americans in
• 1:03:36
  1992 because Cuz we knew that blacks had been being vilified
• 1:03:41
  by racist Caucasian cops for a long time but but we never had
• 1:03:45
  proof that they couldn't deny. And in 1992, we saw a black man
• 1:03:50
  get beat almost to death by seven races cops.
• 1:03:54
  And I think all of us thought. Well, now we're going to get
• 1:03:58
  some retribution because they can't get past this.
• 1:03:59
  It's on videotape and when those guys got acquitted.
• 1:04:05
  I think that was the straw that broke the camel's back in the
• 1:04:09
  African American Community as far as believe in the system and
• 1:04:13
  here it is. That was 92, this is 20/20.
• 1:04:16
  So 28 years later the exact same thing happened.
• 1:04:19
  Only this time worse, we watch a black man, get murdered on.
• 1:04:23
  On live television, in eight and a half minutes, slow death.
• 1:04:29
  And it took social media just to get the oppressors arrested. and
• 1:04:35
  so I think where we're at is just like the system is, it's
• 1:04:39
  not just broken, it needs to be like burnt and torn down and we
• 1:04:43
  need to have real live answers as to what what comes next
• 1:04:48
  because I don't think that we can tolerate any more like
• 1:04:52
  excuses or conversation about like, how we should have faith
• 1:04:56
  in the system because there's no reason to have faith in the
• 1:04:59
  system. Man, beautifully stated both of
• 1:05:06
  you guys and I agree with all of that.
• 1:05:10
  For me. I think, I think, as
• 1:05:14
  individuals, obviously, the three of us are very, very
• 1:05:19
  different. We are born into different
• 1:05:22
  families. We have different belief
• 1:05:23
  structures. We have different life
• 1:05:25
  experiences were different ages. We have different cultural,
• 1:05:27
  makeups. And for me, I think that all of
• 1:05:32
  us bring our own context, to how we react to these horrific
• 1:05:38
  times. For me, I have felt Like, I am
• 1:05:44
  watching and being saturated by ignorance.
• 1:05:49
  In all forms on all sides across the board.
• 1:05:55
  I am a product of a black man and an Italian woman and my
• 1:06:02
  entire life. I've been subject to having to
• 1:06:07
  have these battles on both sides of these issues and it's
• 1:06:12
  draining. It's ridiculous.
• 1:06:15
  And there's so much ignorance that comes with it.
• 1:06:19
  My little sister who I love. Who has two kids.
• 1:06:24
  I don't have any Calls me on this past Sunday and wants me to
• 1:06:30
  go downtown to up with to Oakland with her to participate
• 1:06:35
  in the protest. And I had to tell her, you know,
• 1:06:38
  I process my rage a lot different than, you know.
• 1:06:42
  Most people may expect me to, I'm not a protester.
• 1:06:46
  I'm not against protest, I think protest is amazing.
• 1:06:48
  I think civil unrest is needed and necessary.
• 1:06:53
  But I also think that in today's culture of quick answers and not
• 1:07:00
  a lot of study, I don't think that that there is much strategy
• 1:07:07
  behind the reaction to what we're witnessing.
• 1:07:11
  The protests of the Civil Rights Movement worked.
• 1:07:14
  Not because they were only protesting.
• 1:07:16
  But because there were people working in front of the scenes
• 1:07:20
  behind the scenes, they had strategy, they had a plan in
• 1:07:25
  place, and I feel like a lot of stuff that we're witnessing on
• 1:07:29
  the TV, people in the street. I think it's mostly based on the
• 1:07:33
  raw emotion of watching, that man, get murdered in the street
• 1:07:39
  and I understand the emotion, And I applaud people getting out
• 1:07:44
  there and letting their voices be heard.
• 1:07:46
  But I saw a beautiful tape on, I guess it was YouTube.
• 1:07:50
  I put it on my Facebook page. It was in Minnesota, if I'm not
• 1:07:54
  mistaken. And there was a man in his
• 1:07:58
  mid-40s a black man, and he was very, very, very upset to the
• 1:08:03
  point of screaming and tears and he was ready to burn the city
• 1:08:07
  down. And there was another gentleman
• 1:08:10
  31 was imploring him to think about what he was doing and
• 1:08:18
  about what the effects of this response we're going to be in
• 1:08:23
  the moment and in the future and in the middle of that
• 1:08:25
  conversation, the 31 year old man pulled a child over to them.
• 1:08:31
  Who was 16 and he tells the sixteen-year-old, he said look
• 1:08:35
  man this dude is hurt and pissed it. 45 I'm hurt and Pista. 31.
• 1:08:40
  I did this exact same shit. 34 years ago, when the last do was
• 1:08:45
  killed in the city, we have to find a better way and it can't
• 1:08:50
  just be the raw emotion of protest.
• 1:08:53
  It can't just be hashtags and half the people out there in the
• 1:08:58
  street, man, they're out there for the grand.
• 1:09:01
  They're out there for the grand black and white alike.
• 1:09:03
  They're out there for the gram, it's the sexy thing to do.
• 1:09:07
  Everybody's looking for their space to be recognized and show
• 1:09:10
  that they're down for the cause. And I want to know who's
• 1:09:12
  quitting real strategy, real thought behind how these things
• 1:09:17
  need to change because we've been doing a lot of the same
• 1:09:21
  stuff for a long time and we're still here.
• 1:09:25
  So for me, I'd rather Focus my energy and my responses on.
• 1:09:30
  I'm putting some critical thinking behind how it is that
• 1:09:36
  we as black people can better serve ourselves out of this
• 1:09:40
  problem and how they as white people can get in the fight in
• 1:09:45
  the way that they need to. Because the fact of the matter
• 1:09:47
  is the minorities cannot solve this problem because the problem
• 1:09:51
  is rooted in the majority, And it's not a hard problem to fix.
• 1:09:55
  We didn't create it. We didn't build structures are
• 1:09:59
  not possible for this man. So I'm happy to talk to my black
• 1:10:05
  friends and my black family members of my black colleagues
• 1:10:08
  about these issues of pain and suffering, and everything that
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  we're doing. And then apparently, I'm also
• 1:10:14
  and a lot of us are also put in the position where we have to be
• 1:10:16
  the spokesperson in the, the linguistic experts for our white
• 1:10:22
  friends who don't. Really seem to get it.
• 1:10:24
  And I always start with well are you really trying to get it
• 1:10:27
  because it's just not that complicated.
• 1:10:29
  It's really not that complicated.
• 1:10:32
  So for me, you know, I'm a person who feels like you're not
• 1:10:37
  in the you're not in a position to come at the next person until
• 1:10:42
  you know, you're doing what you need to do.
• 1:10:45
  And so for me and mine I'm like look If you're 18 and up and
• 1:10:51
  you're black and you're upset, if you ain't registered to vote,
• 1:10:54
  you're going about this the wrong way, if you're not
• 1:10:57
  organizing people in your community, to take your anger
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  out, not by burning the building, but by burning down
• 1:11:05
  the politicians that are in place.
• 1:11:06
  They're setting these laws, not at the presidential level.
• 1:11:09
  We all understand. We have no leadership at that
• 1:11:12
  level, but it's the local leadership that determines where
• 1:11:17
  your money gets spent. If you're mad about How much
• 1:11:19
  money the police have four tanks and armored vehicles, and all
• 1:11:22
  this other stuff that those just get made at the local level.
• 1:11:26
  So you have to be strategic in where you place your anger,
• 1:11:32
  where you place your vidyard and come up with, systematic plans,
• 1:11:36
  for systemic change. And like I said, for the, for
• 1:11:40
  the people, in our community, who are so upset that all they
• 1:11:44
  can see is red, all cops are bad.
• 1:11:47
  All white people are evil. That's not True.
• 1:11:49
  No, you know, I don't know that. That's true.
• 1:11:52
  That's not true because my mother's a white woman and she's
• 1:11:54
  not evil. Okay, I have family members who
• 1:11:58
  were police officers who work in government.
• 1:12:01
  All government officials are not bad and eat, not everybody's
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  against us and we have to learn how to recognize our friends,
• 1:12:07
  recognize our allies and work together, work, collectively to
• 1:12:12
  get ourselves out of this mess. But at the end of the day, the
• 1:12:15
  one one big thing, I am imploring everybody who listens
• 1:12:18
  to me. Me on these subjects is this is
• 1:12:21
  not black people's problem to fix.
• 1:12:24
  We did not create this, we cannot fix it.
• 1:12:28
  We have to have our allies in the majority with who have the
• 1:12:34
  heart and the willingness to step this up and if they're not
• 1:12:37
  willing to do it, I don't really see how it gets done but it damn
• 1:12:42
  sure does not get done by standing in the street.
• 1:12:45
  It has to get done behind the scenes in the voting booth.
• 1:12:49
  Organization strategy? I totally agree Clyde and I
• 1:12:53
  think that, you know, our buddy George Williams, who we were
• 1:12:57
  taking the test for leaving him out of a conversation last week.
• 1:13:01
  Do you want to George's favorite things?
• 1:13:03
  As you can't know the play, if you're not in the Huddle.
• 1:13:06
  And this is a huddle, we have to all be in together, it just
• 1:13:08
  can't be black. That's another one.
• 1:13:10
  Just can't be wiped out. Everybody has to be the Huddle,
• 1:13:13
  we have to be running the same play.
• 1:13:15
  And my thing is, this is that this is not a problem, it's
• 1:13:17
  going to be fixed and Two days or two weeks, or two months.
• 1:13:21
  This is all this is Something's Gonna have to be in, for the
• 1:13:22
  long haul, you know? And I'm, I, I'm employing
• 1:13:25
  people, we need to stand together, don't stand behind me.
• 1:13:28
  No stand beside me fight with me.
• 1:13:32
  How did you two fight with me today?
• 1:13:33
  Tomorrow, two years from now, 10 years, from now, 20 years from
• 1:13:37
  now because let's fight is good. It didn't to it's just not going
• 1:13:42
  to go away, you know, you know, my cousin posted something, he
• 1:13:46
  talked to his mom who was 89 years old.
• 1:13:49
  He was telling her what was going on and her thing was, you
• 1:13:52
  know, we have been being disrespected sister.
• 1:13:54
  Took us out of the holes of the ship's back when we were slaves.
• 1:13:57
  That's right. Yeah, that's very prophetic.
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  Yeah. That's that's my uh, that's
• 1:14:02
  that's that makes you my cousin. You know what to that point?
• 1:14:05
  I'm glad you. I'm glad you pointed out by
• 1:14:07
  towards because one is one of my favorite things that he says,
• 1:14:10
  and he says it off. But it's apropos right now
• 1:14:14
  because people need to understand that there are plays
• 1:14:18
  of Foot. We are so easily manipulated by
• 1:14:23
  nonsense, like it's easy to complain about the drama and and
• 1:14:30
  in the, the sideshow that's coming out of Washington DC.
• 1:14:35
  But you gotta understand that man is many many things, he
• 1:14:38
  ain't stupid, he knows what's going.
• 1:14:42
  And if we continue to dance to those kind of strings, we're
• 1:14:46
  going to fall right back into the Trap of fall.
• 1:14:49
  It's equivalency of it's all the same of, there's no difference
• 1:14:54
  in who it all matters. It all matters every little
• 1:14:59
  piece of this has to be strategic and it man.
• 1:15:02
  It's complicated like people that know, best people that know
• 1:15:06
  me best, like I said, Mother's white, my mother's side of the
• 1:15:09
  family that time, my mother is an ally, my grandmother was an
• 1:15:12
  ally. My grandfather was absolutely,
• 1:15:14
  not my grandfather was a racist bigot.
• 1:15:16
  He hated the fact that his grandchildren were half Gutter
• 1:15:19
  People a quote from him. Now loves me supported me helped
• 1:15:25
  raise me. But I knew that it discusses him
• 1:15:29
  and I knew that as a very young child.
• 1:15:32
  So there's a lot of nuance to all of this families are tough.
• 1:15:35
  Communities are tough, and it's in no one's going to be able to
• 1:15:38
  run to their corners and fix this.
• 1:15:41
  It doesn't work that way. It's never going to work that
• 1:15:44
  way. So if there's not A way to do
• 1:15:46
  this in unison with our allies. Like anything, if we don't get
• 1:15:54
  what we don't know. If we do not unite as a people
• 1:15:57
  as a society, then my great-great grandchild will be
• 1:16:02
  dealing with the same problem. Absolutely.
• 1:16:05
  That's a fact I would say that I don't think anybody necessarily
• 1:16:10
  has all the answers but If you go on Twitter and you look up,
• 1:16:16
  Emmanuel acho is a nine minute video that I posted my pages.
• 1:16:21
  Real reposted I guess called dear white people.
• 1:16:25
  It's the first episode and they will be many others and it's the
• 1:16:29
  best and most enlightening nine minutes That that you can watch,
• 1:16:37
  if you are not black and want to understand where black people
• 1:16:42
  are, it's done eloquently. It is not done in Rage it, and
• 1:16:48
  if you watch that nine minutes, I promise you, you'll never ask.
• 1:16:52
  What can I do? What should I do?
• 1:16:55
  You'll never ask those questions because you will have a real
• 1:16:58
  simple explanation and your marching orders.
• 1:17:01
  So I would challenge everybody who Has the show who is not
• 1:17:05
  black. Go on Twitter.
• 1:17:07
  Look up a manual acho. Look up.
• 1:17:10
  Dear white people, it's nine minutes I think in 20 seconds
• 1:17:14
  and then reposted Because you'll get it and not just that you if
• 1:17:22
  you repost it, none of your other non black friends will ask
• 1:17:26
  you why you posted it, because there's no ambiguity to it.
• 1:17:29
  It's not racist, racist, racist. You know, it's not racist,
• 1:17:33
  charged. It's not out of anger, it's an
• 1:17:36
  educational piece as to look, here's the facts, here's why we
• 1:17:41
  are the way we are. And it and the we is a broadly,
• 1:17:45
  because if you just look at this show, 3 different black man on
• 1:17:49
  this show and although we are great friends.
• 1:17:52
  Clearly we are very different and then, secondly, you going to
• 1:17:56
  leave Big League out of the conversation.
• 1:17:57
  No, no, I was just leaving this. I was going to say, send them
• 1:18:00
  get to it. He's just started with her.
• 1:18:01
  Come on now, ladies, 40 because I wanted to finish with her
• 1:18:04
  because secondly what I wanted to say is there's by no means
• 1:18:08
  any chance that we are going to have this conversation and not
• 1:18:11
  let the double minority that is on this show.
• 1:18:15
  Speak because look, you do a great job of managing our
• 1:18:19
  personalities and such and I think a lot of people miss miss
• 1:18:22
  Reed and importance to this show.
• 1:18:25
  Well they're about to get it. So the floor is yours and I
• 1:18:29
  think you should let the world know who you really are and what
• 1:18:32
  you stand for Big League because I want her to close I wanted
• 1:18:39
  Chris just gave something. I've seen that, what he's
• 1:18:41
  talking about is fantastic. Everyone absolutely to do that
• 1:18:45
  on the opposite side of that. If you are a minority,
• 1:18:49
  especially a African American in this country and you are on the
• 1:18:53
  page of voting doesn't matter. And it's all, you know, for show
• 1:18:59
  you should all you should get on Netflix and watch the
• 1:19:02
  documentary called the Great hack.
• 1:19:05
  And understand just how deep Just how thorough, just how
• 1:19:11
  precise certain people are willing to go to make sure that
• 1:19:15
  you don't vote or to make sure that your behavior is modified
• 1:19:19
  to make sure that they are tricking you into manipulation.
• 1:19:25
  If you think, if you think it's not important, people wouldn't
• 1:19:28
  be spending billions of billions of dollars, to make sure you
• 1:19:30
  don't vote. So you go watch the great hack
• 1:19:34
  and I will leave it, it missed well.
• 1:19:38
  Round that out, you know, I am a product of that.
• 1:19:40
  I'm a product of my vote, didn't matter because I that's what I
• 1:19:44
  thought. That's what I was brainwashed to
• 1:19:46
  believe in. I'm going to be brutally honest
• 1:19:49
  against myself. When I voted on Tuesday, that
• 1:19:53
  was the first time, first time ever, I'm 40 years old.
• 1:19:58
  And because I didn't think it mattered and especially coming
• 1:20:00
  from California, one of the billion that live in a small
• 1:20:02
  state are not small by he needs, but and a and isolated State.
• 1:20:07
  I was led to believe, even in my government class, that it wasn't
• 1:20:10
  going to make a difference. And that's where I should have
• 1:20:12
  learned that he did make a difference, you know, and it
• 1:20:15
  took having friends make me listen to what it meant, you
• 1:20:21
  know, and it's like okay you know, and having biracial
• 1:20:26
  children, you know. I do have to fight even more
• 1:20:30
  because they're not going to understand.
• 1:20:32
  And I had a very difficult conversation with my daughter
• 1:20:35
  this morning. And, you know, she she's very
• 1:20:38
  innocent, you know, and she's been privileged enough to not
• 1:20:42
  have to be exposed to a lot of things that many of us were
• 1:20:45
  exposed to as at as a young child and She said, well, why
• 1:20:53
  doesn't everybody just stand in solidarity?
• 1:20:57
  That's a great question, you know?
• 1:21:00
  And she asked, you said, you know, I am, she understands
• 1:21:04
  what's going on currently and where we stand currently in
• 1:21:06
  regards to race. But she said, mom did Asians
• 1:21:10
  ever get discriminated. You know, work was an Asian ever
• 1:21:13
  killed because of the way they looked.
• 1:21:15
  I said absolutely. I said, there's a lot of things
• 1:21:17
  that go on, said, I said. But right now, the focus is that
• 1:21:20
  it's everyone versus the racist. you know, and it's she only
• 1:21:28
  heard because this is what she's seeing the whites and the
• 1:21:33
  blacks. And I said that it's not that
• 1:21:35
  because in some places, it's the blacks against the blacks and
• 1:21:38
  whites the whites against the rights.
• 1:21:40
  I said, so it's bigger than that.
• 1:21:41
  It to everyone against racist. And, you know, I just stand
• 1:21:45
  where I see the opportunities to quote unquote, educate our
• 1:21:49
  friends in those around us as Fellowship, you know, it's we
• 1:21:53
  spread so much good news when it's great to spread, but when
• 1:21:57
  it's bad news, we don't like to talk about it.
• 1:22:00
  And it's not my job to educate. It's not your job to educate,
• 1:22:03
  but it's your job to expose as a human being, as a contributing
• 1:22:07
  Society. We have to expose each other to
• 1:22:10
  our experiences, whether they be negative or positive.
• 1:22:14
  And so it's, it's hard, it's hard to know that a lot of my
• 1:22:20
  friends regardless of shade know, regardless of hue are
• 1:22:23
  affected by something that isn't going to stop.
• 1:22:28
  We're not going to see the end of it.
• 1:22:30
  It's not going to end in our lifetimes and it's scary to
• 1:22:33
  think that because we are almost, we are instant
• 1:22:36
  gratification. You know, we can't switch
• 1:22:38
  accounts to make something to go away.
• 1:22:40
  This isn't going to happen that way, you know, so it's it's
• 1:22:44
  unreal, it really is and you know having having this pick a
• 1:22:51
  scab of mine when I was a kid. I can't I can't empathize.
• 1:22:58
  I know it felt like for me, but it does.
• 1:23:01
  I was never be, you know, because of it is like I was
• 1:23:04
  definitely fought against and pushed away and you know,
• 1:23:08
  whatever it may be, but I can't because I said I won't ever
• 1:23:13
  because it's different, so all I can do is support be there.
• 1:23:17
  Help spread the good and hopefully, you know, be that one
• 1:23:22
  person of change that Arts that ripple effect in the water.
• 1:23:26
  And we can hopefully see some of this wash away but not anytime
• 1:23:31
  soon. May I say one thing before we
• 1:23:34
  close. Absolutely.
• 1:23:36
  Over the last five months, we have seen this incredible effort
• 1:23:41
  to stop the spread of this awful virus.
• 1:23:45
  I was just like to see that same effort to stop this.
• 1:23:49
  Awful Trend that's been going on for 400 years that same energy
• 1:23:53
  same and give me that same energy.
• 1:23:55
  Yeah. And and it might go away In Our
• 1:23:57
  Lifetime, well, Everybody needs to breathe.
• 1:24:07
  Just take a breath and exhale, gentlemen.
• 1:24:10
  As always, thank you so much for your contributions and our
• 1:24:15
  long-distance Runners. We hope we got you covered.
• 1:24:19
  We answered some questions for you, but without further Ado, we
• 1:24:23
  will all reconvene next week and have some great amazing topics
• 1:24:26
  to address. And everyone be safe, be safe,
• 1:24:31
  make a decisions. And remember we're all fighting
• 1:24:33
  a fight. Fight for longevity.
• 1:24:35
  So thank you very much, you soon and to each other, peace.
• 1:24:53
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