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Formula Fanatics #10 - Zandvoort, Monza and the Madring · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Brad, you didn't do any homework this month for Formula 1.
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What, what, what gives, man?
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You, you made us a promise that you were gonna have it all summarized and we could
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cut this episode down to about 10 minutes.
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There were some races, some people won, some people lost.
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Lance Stroll didn't finish any of them, so we're good to go.
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Done.
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Boom.
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That's the episode.
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You brought up Lance Stroll.
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I just want to say, this is the funniest stuff.
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Apparent- I don't… Did this happen?
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It said here the, the bullet that came through, the late breaking
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news, was that if he got one more Q1 elimination, Lance Stroll would become
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the first person in Formula 1 history to be knocked out of Q1 100 times.
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You know, is that the only record he holds?
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Uh, he holds other similar records to this one.
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Oh, okay.
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Perfect.
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He did not finish the last three races.
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So he is a succubus.
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But it's the car's fault.
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Oh, 1000%.
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Yeah, it's never Lance's fault.
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Which actually, he hasn't been crashy, so it hasn't been because of that.
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He hasn't been crashy.
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Neither have I. No, that's true.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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He hasn't been.
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You're really setting the bar high there.
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Yeah, right.
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Well, I do want to follow up from something from last month.
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We ta- We did a little bit of silly season coverage, and we were
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questioning is Leclerc gonna be at Ferrari basically until he's an
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old man, and it sounds like yes.
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And if you read this article, basically he says that he
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stayed there because of Vasseur.
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It's all about Fred, Fred's leadership, Fred's vision.
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Charles is there because of Fred.
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That's why he's staying.
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Charles is there because he's got nowhere else to go and they're paying him.
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Thank you.
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That's the real answer.
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100%, that's the real answer.
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Get- Well, if, if you think about it, he's also got a lot
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more years left than Lewis does.
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Are you finally admitting that?
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Well, I've, I've never not admitted that.
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Okay.
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Since we went there, because I was gonna save it for later, are
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you willing to concede at this point that Hamilton doesn't stand
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a chance of winning this year?
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Yes, I will concede, I don't think Hamilton… It is very, it is
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very highly unlikely that he will win the championship this year.
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But that wasn't part of my original question when I started asking this.
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My original question was, who gets their championship,
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their next championship first?
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Kimi.
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Lewis or Verstappen?
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Kimi.
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The answer is Kimi.
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That's, that, that's not the question.
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Yeah, it is.
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You said, "Who gets it first?" You're answering a question that I didn't ask.
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Neither of them.
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No, no, no.
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Who… Listen to the words.
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Are you listening to the words that are coming out of my mouth?
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The question is, of the two drivers, Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton,
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who wins their next championship?
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Hold on.
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Let me think about that for a second.
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First, before the other guy.
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Tanya, before you answer I'm gonna have to say Kimmy
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And I'm gonna have to say you need to start comparing apples and apples
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when you compare new, new cars to, and their underpowered power
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plants to 25-year-old Volkswagens.
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In, in all honesty, Tanya, hopefully you agree with this, I think there's
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a higher probability that Max wins his fifth than Lewis wins his eighth.
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I can see that.
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Probably.
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I mean, I, I think if all cars were equal, truly equal Would it be Max?
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The answer's still team.
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I think so, given he's, he's younger.
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Glad you're starting to come around on this Hamilton thing's not working out.
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But, you know, hey, whatever.
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He's not there for Fred.
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N- what do you mean not working out?
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I mean, he's doing better than anybody on the Audi teams.
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I mean- He- he's in third in the standings, as long as- Yeah,
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he- … McLaren doesn't catch up.
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We call it a comeback, don't call it a comeback.
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For a comeback, you know, season, I think he's doing pretty damn well.
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Yes.
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I mean, I think he's still getting a little bit shafted with strategy.
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I mean, that's apparent, yes.
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Right?
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Like, he's had some unfortunate position losses because of seemingly bad strategy
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calls, so, 'cause he was second in the points, and now he's trailing.
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He's always one tire change away from losing a race every time.
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That's not his fault.
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He's not the one changing his own tires.
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He's not the one… I mean, he's, he's being told when to box, right?
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He's not just pulling into the pits.
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Do they have to come in when they're told to box?
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Why can't they stay out?
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Like, that one race where they boxed him, like, two laps from the end, it
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was the first Spanish GP, where it was like, "If we put you on the softs,
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and the restart, and the VSC, and all this thing," and then it ended up
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ending on parade laps or whatever it was, and that screwed him up because
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he lost, like, all those positions.
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Couldn't he have just said, "No, guys, I'm staying out"?
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Like, Jackie Stewart back in the '70s would've given them the middle
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finger and said, "You know what?
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I'm staying out here.
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To hell with you guys.
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I don't care what the board says." He probably, he
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probably could have done that.
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I don't know what the- Why are they such rule followers?
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I don't know what their rules are.
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"Oh, I'm sorry. We're gonna penalize you because you came in
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third instead of ninth." Really?
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I don't think he can get penalized, but I don't… I mean, I don't know what the
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backlash… I, I mean, I guess it's, if it turns out well, if your decision turns
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out well, then wonderful, but if he makes that decision and it doesn't turn out
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well, and he should have pitted- Yeah, then that doesn't, that doesn't look good.
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Yeah … then there's backlash, right?
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Yeah.
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You're supposed to follow the team orders.
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We have the strategist for a reason.
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We have all the data.
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We see all the things.
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But then are the drivers really driving?
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I keep saying that over and over again.
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What are they there for?
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We might as well leverage the technology and their remote control cars.
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When does AI start driving the F1 cars?
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Well, there's already AI on the Mercedes.
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We know that, and Russell's is not tuned correctly for his driving style.
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They need to use Grok to do it right.
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Is he the AI?
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Well, that suggests that Russell is intelligent.
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You know, I'm gonna leave that where it is.
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I gotta give Russell credit, at least in the couple of the r- last few
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races where he has proven Without a shadow of a doubt that these tires
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can go a lot longer than the BS pit strategy drama that they're creating.
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Because what was that one race where he pitted on the third lap and
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then he ran them to almost the end?
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They did another pit stop, and I'm like, "So you want to tell me that Hamilton
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couldn't stay out on a pair of mediums for an extra three laps during that
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one ra-…" Their strategy is bunk.
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And I get that Ferrari's pit strategy is bunk to begin with, but the point
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is Russell specifically has proven that these tires can go longer than we've seen.
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Especially the, the other race where it was like they were pitting every 10
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minutes for new tires, and he's like, "I'm just gonna stay out. I'm good."
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Maybe he's just better at tire management.
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But if all the cars are the same.
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As they say, he's the tire whisperer.
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I mean, it's the only thing he's good at I guess, but
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All right, the Dutch GP.
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I thought the race was terrible.
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Zandvoort needs to come back off the schedule.
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Would you rather see that or Madring?
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Is it gonna be like the Corrado other car comparison again?
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This or that.
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This or that.
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This or that.
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The Madrid ring is really bad.
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Ugh, God, horrible.
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And we'll get to that.
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Dutch GP was very DNF-y.
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It was horrendous.
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Let's see, the starting order was Norris, Russell, Kimi,
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Piastri, Hammy, and Leclerc.
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Perez goes, starts from the pit.
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Max is in the wall in lap two, and that causes a whole thing.
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And we thought Tsunoda hit him or whatever, and no, it was softs
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on wets on a wet ground, all this kind of thing, and it was just…
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Hülkenberg did a Days of Thunder move, and Coulthard actually said
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that, which I thought was hilarious.
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Bierman goes dead during the reformation lap, like, all of a sudden.
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And then the, just the, the race sucked.
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It was boring, and it was just like meh.
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You know, Stroll DNF, no surprise there.
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Ocon was out on lap 55, which caused a yellow flag, and that was
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right after Hammy was holding up Kimi, and it lets Lando out front
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and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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It's all downhill from there.
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Bortoleto was out, and pretty much everybody after eighth
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place, I think we looked at the results, was, like, a lap down.
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Like, it was a terrible race.
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It was not good at all.
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And then we go to Monza.
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What do they call, the Temple of Speed, right?
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One of the oldest Formula 1 tracks is, like, from the very beginning.
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We have Gasly on the pole.
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What?
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That was a fluke.
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That wasn't lasting long.
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I was like, "Oh, poor guy. Well, enjoy it for, like, the first two corners."
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I mean, this was an incredible race.
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Going from the suckiest race, the Dutch GP, to Monza was like, holy cow.
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So on, on the starting grid we had Gasly, Russell, Leclerc, Hammy, and Kimi
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starts last because he had a motor swap.
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And so I said at this point, "Where's Lando?" Because, you
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know, our, our reigning champion, Lando Norris, nowhere to be found.
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Lawson and Alonso started from the pit, so they actually started behind Kimi.
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So he wasn't completely last, but he was the last car on the grid,
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which is an important technicality.
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To your point, Tanya, Gasly's lead was short-lived.
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Russell took the lead by lap two.
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So I was like, "Good Lord, been on track for, like, three minutes
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and Gasly's already fallen back."
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In that same amount of time, Antonelli is in 13th place.
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Leclerc crashes on the third, this, on the third lap.
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Okay, we have a red flag on lap four.
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There's a tangle with Piastri.
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He loses coming out of the corner.
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It's a big hit.
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Order turns into, on the restart, Russell, Gasly, Verstappen, and Colapinto, right?
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So both Alpines up in the front.
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But Kimi gets this advantage on the restart, so he ends up eighth
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and he's behind Lando, and then he jumps around Lando and whoever
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else, and he is, ends up in sixth.
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Again, he's going from dead last to the front of the pack.
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Colapinto goes off in Lesmo corner, and then he's down to
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16th place, so bye-bye Alpine.
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Gasly at that point, he drops by lap 10.
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He's already down to P4.
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Then Verstappen's leading.
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Kimi works up to fourth.
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By lap 13, Kimi's third.
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Russell ends up tangling a little bit with Verstappen.
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By lap 16, Kimi is second, and he is closing the gap on Russell,
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and it's getting exciting.
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And we're like 16 laps in of, like, a 52-lap race, and it's like, "Holy smokes."
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So Kimi's having his Senna moment.
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We're watching history unfold here.
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By lap 17, Verstappen starts complaining.
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By lap 18, Kimi is first.
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Gasly dropped back to seventh, pretty much where he was gonna
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be, and Audi is 11th and 12th.
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By lap 28, Lance Stroll has a hydraulic issue which causes a VSC, and Alonso
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is also out, so both Astons are gone.
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Antonelli gets the timing right.
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He pits under the VSC.
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He drops to fourth, putting him 12 seconds back behind Russell instead of the full,
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you know, 25 seconds that he would've been back under a normal pit condition.
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By lap 37, Kimi's back up to second place and he's eight seconds behind Russell, and
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it's like, "Oh my God, is he gonna do it?"
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Which their, like, lap prediction- Yes … when they came back out, they're
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like, "Oh, you know, we're, he's gonna catch him, you know, in like lap 50
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or whatever," the 51 or 52, so it was gonna be like this last lap dash.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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No, not even po- Then a couple laps later, Verstappen misses turn one
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and he goes through the chicane.
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Remember that?
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Yeah.
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Comparing apples to apples, Brad.
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When Hamilton ended up going off and losing the brakes and going through
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turn one, he was all, like, "It's like watching a old person doing a slalom."
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And then Verstappen, what did he do?
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He got to, like, the second thing and he accelerated.
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I've never seen anybody go through the safety chicane as fast as Verstappen.
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He didn't even lose a beat.
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Like, he didn't lose a position.
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He- I think he gained on the person in front of him.
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It was, like, unreal.
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So Brad, to your point from earlier, who would- I think Verstappen
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would get the next championship.
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He's still got the reflexes.
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He's still got the hunger, you know what I mean?
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He's willing to take the risks.
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Yeah.
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On that same lap that Verstappen blows through the chicane, Russell
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starts talking about how his tires are failing, and this is the race,
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right, again, where I talk about the tire and the pit strategy.
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He changed tires to get his mandatory one pit stop tire change when the
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Leclerc incident happened on lap three.
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So he's been running for 40-plus laps on the same tires.
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Nobody does that.
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They're all like, "Oh, 12 laps.
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Time for new tires.
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New rubber.
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I'm gonna pit 10 times in a race." It's terrible.
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So he's proven that these tires can go the distance, and then eventually by lap
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49, they end up pitting him for tires.
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I mean, we're getting really close to the end, and then there's team
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orders, "George, don't take any risks," meaning you're behind Kimi,
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you know, because of some shuffling around and all that kind of thing.
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Don't risk it.
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Leave it where it is.
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Antonelli scores.
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He jumps up his points lead to 267 points.
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So the end of the race, Kimi, Russell, Verstappen, Piastri, and Norris.
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So the Ford sort of sandwiched in the middle of those McLarens, and Audi exactly
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where it's always been, Gasly in seventh.
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But, but, but Cadillac.
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Okay.
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They finished a race.
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Good for them.
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Madrid.
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Oh, this track.
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I saw this that you sent from Motorsport.
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These are the quotes from the drivers about the Madrid ring.
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I mean, Lando, "They need to change the track next year.
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It'll be better for the fans.
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It'll be better for TV.
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It'll be better for everyone." "I love Bortoleto.
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I almost fell asleep."
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There's all sorts of fun comments around here.
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Verstappen saying, "If you just drive a little bit in the middle, then you can't
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pass." Brad, you watched this race, right?
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What did you think of the Madrid ring?
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I thought it was boring.
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Okay.
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Comparison time.
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More boring or less boring than Monaco?
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More boring.
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More boring.
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Monaco is at least a spectacle, and just the fact that it's
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Monaco makes it more entertaining.
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What would you rather watch, Madrid ring or Miami?
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Zoom.
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Oh.
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Miami.
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Oh my God.
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Um, IMSA.
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Oh, okay.
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Good answer.
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That is a good answer.
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I'd rather watch anything IMSA, even freaking Detroit.
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Even Detroit.
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Yeah, that's, that's funny.
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Well, they actually pass each other at Miami, don't they?
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Maybe one or two times.
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Well, that's one or two times more than they could at Madrid.
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True.
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I could sit here and rattle off Madrid.
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Is there anything really to say?
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I mean- Nobody cares.
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It was terrible.
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Like, they literally didn't… I don't think, I think one
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person passed one person.
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Kimi ends up winning that one, too.
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So it started Lando, Antonelli, Verstappen, Hamilton.
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The final order was Kimi, Verstappen, Lando, Leclerc, Russell.
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That's it.
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Boom, done.
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And I think that's the race where Hammy went out, right?
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Because he had a braking issue, and he couldn't get the car to stop or something,
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so they ended up boxing the car.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But he was out by, like, lap seven.
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So that was the end of that.
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I mean, there's nothing else that really stands out about the race,
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'cause it was like a freaking parade.
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And then what I didn't realize about this Madrid ring, it's like
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a temporary permanent circuit.
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Kinda like Le Mans is the same thing, where parts of the track are permanent,
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but then parts of the track, they have to set them up every year, and
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it… They basically drive around the convention center in Madrid.
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So it's like a street course.
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We lost Catalunya for this.
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Yes.
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That's what I'm saying.
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I, I mean, I think they're, like, on one of those every other year thing, so
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we don't have to, I don't think we have to suffer through it, like, every year.
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But we got, like, five more years of this crap.
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All I gotta say is bring back Portugal.
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Yeah, 100%.
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The track in Portugal is awesome.
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Hockenheim.
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Bring back Imola.
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That was off the schedule this year.
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Which actually is a very good point, Brad, talking about the schedule.
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Let's look at the official 2027 schedule for next year.
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Look at this.
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Look at this.
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Oh, Portugal's back.
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Look at that.
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Ask and ye shall receive.
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There you go.
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Portugal right after Monaco, but before Silverstone, and Catalunya's gone,
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replaced by this terrible Madrid ring.
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Barf.
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Urf.
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That is the 2027 schedule.
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Was, was Vegas on there?
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Yes, Vegas is still on there.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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There's three US ones.
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Yep.
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All right, in some fun Formula 1 news, Tanya, I know you were tracking this.
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Did anybody watch this?
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No.
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The Max Verstappen.
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I don't have ESPN.
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I don't have that work.
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Oh.
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I watched the start, I think.
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The videos were everywhere over the internet.
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Yeah, but it was like 10-second videos.
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It wasn't like you couldn't watch the whole race.
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If you watched 10 10-second videos, you saw the whole thing because he
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cleared everybody in like 14 laps.
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So it was like- Yeah … 35 minutes.
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That was the whole thing and it was over.
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The one big thing that some of the analysts pointed out, like you're
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supposed to do in cart racing or in any racing, just because the green flag
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is being waved up at the front doesn't mean the people in the back don't start
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racing until they get to the green flag.
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Once the green flag is dropped, the race has started.
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He passed like 25 people immediately because they were
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all sitting there like they were confused as to what was happening.
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Yeah, he started picking them off in just droves because it was
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like the race crafts was junk.
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But I also sort of sat here and wondered is his cart tuned differently.
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You know how carts can be.
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They're never equal.
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Supposedly the carts were all identical.
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I'm gonna put air quotes on that one.
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Supposedly they were all supposed to be identical.
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How quickly he was passing people in the start, it looked like he had
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turbo compared to everybody else.
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Correct.
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His turbo mushroom works in go-karting as well.
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I mean he went worse to first, P101 to P1 in
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14 laps, 35 minutes.
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So there you go.
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Meanwhile, I don't know how much of this is true or not, it's on
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Motorsport, but Hamilton has sold all his entire car collection and
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now he has that F40 that we saw him tooling around in with Kim Kardashian.
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I don't know that you need to sell your entire car collection
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to buy an F40 these days.
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I mean they have gone up in price this year, but they're
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not astronomically expensive.
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You could buy an F40 for like 3 million bucks.
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What does he make a year?
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Like 40?
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I don't think that's why he sold his car collection.
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I think selling his car collection had more to do with probably
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sustainability and- Mm-hmm
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not looking like he's hoarding cars and things like that.
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Ah, okay.
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They don't really talk about that in here.
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But I do commend his choice.
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Mad props, like if I had to have one car and that was the only car I was gonna
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have and I could afford to have that one car, it would definitely be an F40.
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And mine would be black, but you know, hey, whatever.
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So good for you.
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I'm gonna chalk that up to Formula 1 rich people things.
21:14
Oh, and then in other fun Formula 1 news, we were reached out to by an outlet.
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There is a Gilles Villeneuve movie coming this year.
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We were actually given the trailer, so we have that up as part of the article here.
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It is in French, for the French Canadians out there, with English subtitles.
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It is making its way through the indie circuit like a lot
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of other films right now.
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But it covers the Villeneuve legacy.
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It includes family photos, interviews from the family and
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from the kids, and all that stuff.
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So I think this is really cool.
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I'm looking forward to seeing the whole thing.
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The trailer's pretty epic.
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I mean, it's very, very interesting.
21:52
So Villeneuve: Rise of a Legend, coming to probably streaming sooner than later.
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But you can check it out on GillesVilleneuveFilm.com or check our
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website for the complete write-up, some of the pictures that they sent us, and
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the trailer, so you kind of get a feel for what the new movie is all about.
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And I think on some other positive Formula 1 news, Jamie Chadwick
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completed her maiden Formula 1 test at Portimao in a Williams.
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So maybe, just maybe?
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Who knows?
22:25
Right?
22:25
Who was the last lady to run in Formula 1?
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Well, the last woman to attempt to qualify for a Formula 1 Grand Prix was
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Italian driver Giovanna Amati in 1992.
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Several female drivers have completed private testing sessions in modern
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or previous gen F1 cars, including Jamie Chadwick, who tested a 2025
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Williams car in September '26, Doreen Pin, Mercedes, Jessica Hawkins, Aston
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Martin, Susie Wolff for Williams.
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No woman has started an official Grand Prix since the 1970s.
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And that was Lisa whatever her name is, right?
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Lella Lombardi, maybe.
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Lella Lombardi.
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There it is.
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Yep.
23:00
Yes.
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The last woman to actually start and race in a world championship Grand Prix.
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Only female driver to score championship points.
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A half a point at the shortened 1975 Spanish Grand Prix.
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That's half a point more than Cadillac.
23:18
Wow.
23:19
And, and half a point more than Lance Stroll.
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That's for sure.
23:24
That's for sure.
23:25
So do you think she's Carlos's replacement?
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You think they're ready to let women drive in Formula 1?
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They should be.
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Why not?
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In the year of motorsport 2026, why not?
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Okay.
23:39
Okay.
23:40
Sure.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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I'm not saying because she's a woman and can't do it, I'm saying because
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Formula 1 is run by a bunch of men.
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Yes.
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I mean, that was the undertone, for sure.
23:57
But I've also heard the argument from some people in our organization that say
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that, "Well, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If they can't be competitive
24:04
in the F2 cars," and this and that.
24:06
And I'm like, but the F2 cars have, like, manual steering, and the F1
24:09
cars are allegedly easier to drive than, like, the lower class cars are.
24:13
They're, they're a lot more work.
24:15
So if the progress to Formula 1 is to go through Formula 2, how can
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they even ever go into Formula 1?
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It's not fair.
24:23
How many people actually make it from Formula 2 into Formula 1?
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Think about that.
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Literally all of them.
24:29
Well, first of all, we know the Formula 2 cars are faster than the
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Astons, so that must mean something.
24:35
The competition is fierce, because you put somebody like Colton Herta in
24:39
Formula 2, and he's not doing well.
24:41
What is he, like, 19th or something like that?
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I mean, am I wrong?
24:44
I don't think any of the current Formula 1 drivers have
24:46
skipped F3 or F2 straight to F1.
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Which ones are F2 champions?
24:52
Was it Kimi and Colapinto maybe?
24:55
Wasn't Stroll an F2 champion?
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That remains to be seen.
24:58
Let's go to Gemini.
25:02
The, the question for Gemini is, how many of the current Formula1
25:05
drivers podiumed in the Formula 2 championship before they got there?
25:10
'Cause if that's the gatekeeping mechanism, then it'd have
25:13
to be everybody, right?
25:15
Because to get their super license, and they need the super license to
25:18
go into Formula 1, you only get the super license points pretty much by
25:23
going through F3 and F2, I thought.
25:25
Right.
25:25
So she can't just skip and go into F1.
25:30
Does she have a super license?
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I think in the old days you could.
25:32
I think if you were fast enough, they would put you in Formula
25:36
1, because a lot of those guys didn't come through those series.
25:39
I mean- Okay … we're talking pre-Senna days kind of thing, but still.
25:43
Okay, so 50 years ago, when, uh, Fangio was doing it, you, there was no F3 and F2.
25:52
I don't know.
25:53
Cool.
25:55
But let's just say, let's just say she's faster than Stroll, I'd
25:59
put her in a seat in Formula 1.
26:01
I mean, I think that's the bar.
26:02
It doesn't matter if you're in Formula 2 or not.
26:05
If you're faster than Lance Stroll in a Formula 1 car, you should
26:09
be allowed to race in Formula 1.
26:11
He had an F3 title.
26:15
That he bought?
26:16
I mean, he's a bad example, 'cause probably- No, I think he is the bar.
26:20
No, I don't think he's the bar because there probably was, like,
26:23
Super Points bought somehow, Super Point license bought on the down low.
26:27
Like Uh, uh, uh, there it is … I don't know that he's a good example.
26:31
There it is.
26:32
Daddy Warbucks got out there and took care of him.
26:36
There it is.
26:37
So Jamie Chadwick doesn't necessarily have to compete in F2 or those
26:44
series to get the Super Li- License Points, would also count, her IndyCar
26:48
stuff or Indy NXT or Formula 3 or other types of formula series.
26:53
But you would still need to accumulate the Super License Points, of which
26:57
I don't know how many she has.
26:58
But we know how hard that was for Colton, right?
27:02
100%, so it's gonna be an uphill climb for her too.
27:05
If, if they treat her the same way they treated him, they're
27:07
gonna put roadblocks up.
27:08
But then that gets into the politics.
27:10
It's a boys' club in Formula 1, but does it need to be a boys'
27:14
club in Formula 1 next year?
27:15
So leave it at that.
27:17
All right.
27:18
Well, we will talk about Azerbaijan on the next episode.
27:23
Wait, let's make predictions.
27:25
Ooh, what predictions would you like to make?
27:27
For Azerbaijan, who's gonna win?
27:29
What do we think the, uh, win, place, and show?
27:32
Win, Russell.
27:33
Place, Kimi.
27:35
Show is Hamilton.
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Maybe Lando.
27:37
What does that mean?
27:38
You think one, two, three is gonna be Russell, Kimi, Amy?
27:42
No, probably Russell, Kimi, Lando.
27:45
You don't think Verstappen's gonna be up there?
27:46
He's- Nah … done well the last couple races.
27:47
Nah.
27:47
Maybe,
27:50
but nah.
27:51
So you're going backward, what we were just talking about.
27:55
All right.
27:55
Whatever.
27:55
Tanya, you go.
27:57
I don't think Lando, based on…
28:00
Well, it's, uh, all the practice sessions are all sandbagging bullshit,
28:03
so you really- Yeah … can't tell.
28:05
I don't know.
28:06
I'm gonna say Kimi's gonna win.
28:08
Excellent.
28:08
Max will be on the podium.
28:10
Probably Russell.
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She says with complete disdain.
28:17
It's like she has to wash her mouth out.
28:19
Russell, you told me.
28:19
I think Ferrari's gonna get hosed again.
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1,000%. They're gonna look good.
28:23
They're gonna look good, get the hopes up, something, some bullshit's
28:26
gonna happen, and then nothing.
28:28
They're gonna change tires 10 times when they don't need to.
28:31
Yeah, it'll be great.
28:33
This time Leclerc's brakes won't work.
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