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Furness Show 8-20: John Canzano, Hugh Millen and Brandon Funston · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: No from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 2: One night, after twenty two to nothing drubbing, the MS
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  Speaker 2: jumped out to a seven to nothing lead, and the
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  Speaker 2: second against Milwaukee went on to get a win. Last night,
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  Speaker 2: Taylor ward I had a big hit for the MS
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  Speaker 2: in that game. They held on for a seven to
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  Speaker 2: five win. Not so good today. One of the things
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  Speaker 2: did help though, the Astros won, so Seattle does keep
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  Speaker 2: pace with Houston four behind. Right now two and a
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  Speaker 2: half out of the wild card race, thirty five games remain.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawk's getting on a plane today. They're flying to Nashville
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  Speaker 2: for the joint practice against the Titans. Von Diggs expected
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  Speaker 2: to be out there tomorrow. By the way, Rams and Saints.
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  Speaker 2: According to my buddy Greg Beacham, my former intern in
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  Speaker 2: Salt Lake, actually he was the AP writer in LA.
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  Speaker 2: He's done good for himself too. Again on the second,
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  Speaker 2: I'm the star maker. If you work with me, you'll
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  Speaker 2: have a bigger job oh, waiting for my star, or
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  Speaker 2: you'll get fired by the athletic you know the other.
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  Speaker 1: Way.
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  Speaker 2: He reported. They ended their joint practice early today. Too
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  Speaker 2: many injuries. It's supposed to be controlled. Can't control everything
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  Speaker 2: in football, so they backed off. Sounders lost again. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I watched the second half of that one. They fell
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  Speaker 2: behind two nothing, got one late, but lost two to
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  Speaker 2: one last night to Austin. That's a franchise record eight
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  Speaker 2: straight losses in MLS play. Ryan Schmetzer is not happy.
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  Speaker 2: They're not They don't have any players. Like god, it's weird.
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  Speaker 3: Weird.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't have yeah, weird. If you don't have players,
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  Speaker 2: you can't win games. I don't know how that works,
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  Speaker 2: but I guess that's the case. So uh, that's the
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  Speaker 2: case right now. Vidave assigned a contract today Pro Bowl
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  Speaker 2: nose tackle with Buccaneers former Husky Jayden Higgins out for
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  Speaker 2: the season. Houston and truck at Texans wide receiver and
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  Speaker 2: way Oh. I did mention this yesterday. It happened during
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  Speaker 2: our show, but I'll give it a a shout out again.
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  Speaker 2: Soundview Little League Down of Tacoma won their first game.
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  Speaker 2: Their next one is tomorrow. In the league World Series.
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  Speaker 4: Boom uh.
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  Speaker 2: John Canzon was going to join us here in about
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  Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. We have a conversation which I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: get to in a second. But a lot of college
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  Speaker 2: football talk out there got just the dumbest thing in
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  Speaker 2: the world. This, this TJ. Harden thing is just Ridiculs
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  Speaker 2: played for the Seahuxs last weekend. Now he's in a
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  Speaker 2: transfer portal. Guy that got a bunch of sacks in
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  Speaker 2: the preseason for the Buccaneers in the transfer portal going
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  Speaker 2: back to college. This is just unheard of. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: into that with him. I want to start here today though,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to start here. So I saw the tweet today.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people have seen it. It's getting a
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  Speaker 2: lot of traction on social media. If you're on social
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  Speaker 2: media just listening to the radio, I'll fill you in.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Calkins, eleven year's columnist at the Seattle Times. He resigned.
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  Speaker 2: He resigned, and the reason that Matt resigned was he
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  Speaker 2: was muted by the Seattle Times. Now, I want to
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  Speaker 2: start by saying that nothing I say here is a
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  Speaker 2: reflection or an indictment on those people that work at
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  Speaker 2: the Seattle Times. On a day to day basis covering
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to use the sports world covering sports.
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  Speaker 2: This is not an indictment of criticism or a reflection
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  Speaker 2: what I'm going to say on Tim Booth, Bob Condota,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Farrell, Ryan Divish, et cetera. All right, this is
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  Speaker 2: all about the people, the empty suits at the Seattle Times.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's any secret that our radio station
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  Speaker 2: had an issue with the Seattle Times years ago, so
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  Speaker 2: long ago. This is pre pandemic. I like to use things.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like ADBC type of thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's one of those landscape or landmark moments.
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  Speaker 2: PP pre pandemic got it years ago. A couple people,
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  Speaker 2: one specifically that no longer works here at our radio station.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not Mark James, all right,
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  Speaker 2: because I know people automatically just go to go though
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  Speaker 2: that's the default, right almost have been Mark must Mark
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  Speaker 2: said something. No, it wasn't Mark. Now Mark did his thing,
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  Speaker 2: Mark's Mark. But that's not Mark James. This is pre Mark.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that. But the Seattle Times
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  Speaker 2: decided that they'd had enough. They made comments to our
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  Speaker 2: boss such as sophomoric humor, immature. Basically, they didn't like
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  Speaker 2: the fact that people in our station had taken shots
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  Speaker 2: at their Frankly, their editorial board is what it was.
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  Speaker 2: Mostly a lot of it was regarding the Sonics in
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  Speaker 2: the arena situation, and they didn't like that. We didn't
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  Speaker 2: like what they wrote about that. And I say, we
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  Speaker 2: all ump us all in together. But the biggest beefs
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  Speaker 2: came from people that aren't here anymore, or towards people
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  Speaker 2: that are no longer here. I want I point that out.
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  Speaker 2: Because of this, Jess and I have been working for
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  Speaker 2: a while kind of behind the scenes, trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: out a way if we can get our friends back
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  Speaker 2: on the air. I consider Tim Booth a friend, a
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  Speaker 2: good friend.
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  Speaker 6: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Brian Divish his first ever radio appe instance when he
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  Speaker 2: was doing preps in Tacoma for the News Tribune. We're
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  Speaker 2: on this station with our Friday night football show, and
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  Speaker 2: then he became a regular guest on my show. First
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  Speaker 2: before any of the show, we almost hired Ryan to
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  Speaker 2: do a radio show here. Our relationships with him and
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  Speaker 2: Condota going back to the days of Steve Kelly hosting
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  Speaker 2: a show with Elise and I at night Condodo was
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  Speaker 2: with you. Dub our history with that newspaper, specifically, their
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  Speaker 2: sports staff is long and it was really a strong one.
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  Speaker 2: We use those guys. Here's the other thing. We paid
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  Speaker 2: those guys.
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  Speaker 6: They lost income, they lost.
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  Speaker 2: And the relationship severed because some people got sensitive in
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  Speaker 2: the on the editorial board and frankly the owner, Frank Bleffin.
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  Speaker 2: It is the most thin skinned media outlet I have
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  Speaker 2: ever seen in my entire life. And I've worked in
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  Speaker 2: other markets. I've worked in other markets that were multiple
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  Speaker 2: news markets. Salt Lake had the Deseret News and the
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  Speaker 2: Sali Tribian. Deseret News, by the way, owned by the
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  Speaker 2: Church of Jesus Christ in Latter day Saints not nearly
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  Speaker 2: as sensitive as Blethin and his family and this newspaper,
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  Speaker 2: so they pulled these guys off the air. We've been
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  Speaker 2: trying to get some guys back on hell in some ways.
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  Speaker 2: We work with them on some things. I'll leave it
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  Speaker 2: at that to no avail. Well, today there are true
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  Speaker 2: colors were put out there front and center publicly by
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  Speaker 2: Matt Calkins. He resigned as an eleven year columnist for
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  Speaker 2: the Seattle Times because he had been muted for what
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  Speaker 2: he wanted to write, not once, not twice, multiple times.
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  Speaker 2: I remember having this conversation with Matt a couple of
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  Speaker 2: years ago at a Seahawk practice of all things, and
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  Speaker 2: he was telling me his frustrations about being quote muted,
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  Speaker 2: like they didn't want me to run this or this
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  Speaker 2: because it wasn't what they believed on the editorial board
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  Speaker 2: or they thought it would be. There'd be too much pushback.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of it has to do there were some
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  Speaker 2: things with Black Lives Matter, there were some things with
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  Speaker 2: right now it's the transgender debate that keeps going on.
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  Speaker 2: But there's some other things that he wanted to write.
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  Speaker 2: He put it in a substack. You can go check
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  Speaker 2: it out a fall him on Twitter. He's got to
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  Speaker 2: just search a substack for Matt Holkins. He lays it
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  Speaker 2: all out there. When the newspaper of record is muting
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  Speaker 2: someone they hire to write an opinion because it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: agree with someone's or it might ruffle too many feathers.
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  Speaker 6: That's more of what I think it is.
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  Speaker 2: That is a problem. That is a massive problem. We
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  Speaker 2: live in a world where everything has to be black, white, agree, disagree,
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  Speaker 2: right left. There is no middle ground. There is no debate.
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  Speaker 2: There is no conversation. We try, we don't ever succeed anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened or how it happened, and
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  Speaker 2: everyone can blame full the blame game. It's individuals or
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  Speaker 2: people or administrations or whatever, it doesn't matter. We've reached
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  Speaker 2: a point in our world where you cannot have a
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  Speaker 2: logical discussion. So Iphie Cuttingham's a great example of that.
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  Speaker 2: What she stands for, what she says is not what
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  Speaker 2: was being portrayed by those on the other side. And
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  Speaker 2: no one wants to listen to the other side. That's
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  Speaker 2: the other part that's really really frustrating. Nobody wants to
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  Speaker 2: listen to the other side. And I think we're all,
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  Speaker 2: if you look in the mirror, probably guilty of that
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  Speaker 2: at some point, in some level.
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  Speaker 5: We're in a very divisive time and have been for
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  Speaker 5: quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: For a long time. Yeah, it's unfortunate, But I'll just say,
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  Speaker 2: shame on the Seattle Times. I've said that a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm saying it again. Shame on the Seattle Times.
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  Speaker 2: You hired a guy to write a sports column and
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  Speaker 2: you will not let him do that. So he had
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  Speaker 2: the wherewithal to resign. A lot of us have loved
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  Speaker 2: and with love love love to be able to resign
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  Speaker 2: from a job. He has the wherewithal and the ability
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  Speaker 2: to do so, and I applaud him for that, the
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  Speaker 2: courage takes to do that. Calumnist the sale times. He
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  Speaker 2: could have probably been there forever and follow in the
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  Speaker 2: footsteps of some of the greats Steve Kelly, Larry Stone
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  Speaker 2: and I. But he leaves because for all intents and purposes,
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  Speaker 2: they muted him. Now, this isn't me saying what he
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  Speaker 2: was writing and what he did right on substack I
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  Speaker 2: agree or disagree with. That's not even the point.
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  Speaker 6: No, you're not talking about that point.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the point that you when I ran
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  Speaker 2: a Steve Kelly column, And that's why when I first
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  Speaker 2: got here in two thousand and six, coming up on
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  Speaker 2: twenty years ago next month, when I first got here,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to do something with Steve, like I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to have him on the show. And Elise was friends
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  Speaker 2: with him as well from her time playing basketball at
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  Speaker 2: dub and we called Steve and he came in. He
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  Speaker 2: came in at least a couple times a week, did
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  Speaker 2: a show with us at seven o'clock at night. I
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  Speaker 2: loved it because I always loved reading Steve Kelly. Why
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  Speaker 2: because every time I read Steve Kelly, I had an emotion,
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  Speaker 2: strong agreement, strong disagreement, laugh, anger doesn't matter. I had
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  Speaker 2: an opinion after I read his opinion. That's what opinions
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  Speaker 2: are for. God, it absolutely sickens me to this day.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I tweeted out earlier, I said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to discuss this today on KJR, and I
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  Speaker 2: have people going, well, I know, I'll turn off. Then
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  Speaker 2: how do you even know what I was going to say? Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 2: How do you know what the how do you know
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  Speaker 2: what the hell I was going to say? And if
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  Speaker 2: I said something that you disagreed with? Do you think
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  Speaker 2: of me in worse terms? Do you look and say, Ian,
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  Speaker 2: you're a bad person because I don't agree with something
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  Speaker 2: that you say? Is that the world we live in now?
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  Speaker 2: I don't agree with you? Screw you. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to listen to you. I'm not gonna listen to yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I don't do that to you.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of those people keep listening.
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  Speaker 2: They just say that I understand that, Jess, I get that,
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  Speaker 2: and I know we all we've been this missus for
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  Speaker 2: a long time, right, I don't listen? Yes I am,
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  Speaker 2: but no, that's it. You don't even know what I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna say today. I'm not talking about the topic
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  Speaker 2: that was the final straw for Matt. That's up for
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  Speaker 2: Matt to decide and discuss and have fun with and
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  Speaker 2: or not have fun. For Matt to to discuss himself.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna be on softy Day, by the way, at
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  Speaker 2: six o'clock, so you can take a listen to him
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  Speaker 2: then his own words. But the Seattle Times, which has
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  Speaker 2: a section, an opinion section in the newspaper it's called
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  Speaker 2: just that Opinion where they write things. They have an
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  Speaker 2: editorial board or individuals who write things. For example, here's
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  Speaker 2: the big one headline right now put an end to
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  Speaker 2: Tacoma Ice Center's unconscionable refusal of hell inspections. Editorial. You
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  Speaker 2: may or may not agree, but they wrote about it.
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  Speaker 2: Seattle must not leave businesses adrift during city projects editorial.
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  Speaker 2: Cheers of the Seattle Preschool program for keeping its promises,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. The whole section on it they have here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing, and if Greg was here and if he's
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  Speaker 2: still listening. I bet he would agree with me. One
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  Speaker 2: of the reasons I don't enjoy the Tacoma News Tribute anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And I used to subscribe to both papers. When I
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  Speaker 2: say subscribe, subscribe and have them delivered to my house
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  Speaker 2: every day. Up until two years ago, every morning we
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  Speaker 2: lived south and that where I could get the News
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  Speaker 2: Tribune delivered to my house every day, hard copy. Same
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  Speaker 2: with the Seattle Times. Well, you know what I stopped
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  Speaker 2: doing that with the News Tribune. Why is that? I
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  Speaker 2: love what Greg writes. John Manley's a great dude, does
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  Speaker 2: great job of high school sports. But they don't have
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  Speaker 2: any sports calling this anymore. I want opinion. I want
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  Speaker 2: to be I want to think about what I read.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be having an emotion at the end.
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  Speaker 2: Shame on the Seattle Times. You can comment four nine,
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  Speaker 2: four five one come a Dutch text line. Also talkbacks
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  Speaker 2: welcome as well. John Canzono knows all about this. He'll
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  Speaker 2: join us next.
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  Speaker 1: Now back to in Furness on your Home for the Huskies,
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in Sports Radio nine three point
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  Speaker 2: three KJRFM. He internests with you on a Thursday afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: My guy John Canzono. I had to get ahold of
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  Speaker 2: them because I want to get a bunch of college
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  Speaker 2: stuff out there. But there's something else that I really
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  Speaker 2: really want his thoughts on, and I'm gonna get to
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  Speaker 2: that in a second. First of all, oh, my friend,
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  Speaker 2: how are you.
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  Speaker 7: I'm well, I'm doing well. This is a fun time
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  Speaker 7: of year. We're about ready to get into things, aren't.
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  Speaker 2: We We are we are. First of let me ask
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  Speaker 2: you personally, how's the new gig? You got new stuff
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  Speaker 2: going on? How's everything going?
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  Speaker 7: Really really good, having a lot of fun. Obviously I'm
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  Speaker 7: writing the column at John pinzano dot com. That is
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  Speaker 7: that's fun and I love the connection with readers there.
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  Speaker 7: And then the YouTube show. Adidas has come in as
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: a big sponsor and doing that YouTube show three days
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  Speaker 7: a week on YouTube and days a week of syndicated radio.
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  Speaker 8: Just just a one hour show.
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  Speaker 7: You know how you could do an hour in your sleep, Ian,
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  Speaker 7: but just a one hour show five days a week,
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  Speaker 7: and you know, eight different stations having fun with that.
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  Speaker 2: The change in the changes and the evolution of college
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  Speaker 2: football is one of the reasons I wanted to grab
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  Speaker 2: you today. But I want to get your thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: something else. And I've mentioned this before. John and I
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  Speaker 2: got to Portland basically the same month. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was like what October November of twenty two of two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and two, I do believe. And I was working
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  Speaker 2: at the Fan down there. He was the hired to
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: be the lead columnist at The Oregonian, the paper of record,
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  Speaker 2: and really not just Portland but in the state of Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: And so we got there the same time. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the things I always loved about John and still do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're doing it independently now, but when you
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  Speaker 2: work for the mainstream paper, you wrote what you wanted
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  Speaker 2: to write, much of the chagrin of Blazer's management, infamously
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  Speaker 2: Steve Patterson, their old president, others along the way, Dux
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  Speaker 2: s Beavers. You said what you wanted to say and
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  Speaker 2: oftentimes spoke for the fan you left to go on
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  Speaker 2: your own. We found out today I brought this up
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  Speaker 2: in the first Oliver Show. Today. We found out today
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  Speaker 2: that Matt Calkins after eleven years is leaving the Seattle Times.
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  Speaker 2: And what the reason is is he had become muted
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  Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, you're a former column
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  Speaker 2: and I should mention an award winning columnist you were,
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  Speaker 2: and I think Matt is too. Matt actually worked in
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  Speaker 2: Portland for a while as well, for the Vancouver paper,
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  Speaker 2: The Colombian. How troubling is it for not just sports fans, John,
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  Speaker 2: but just for those overall when the newspaper of record
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  Speaker 2: is muting the people it employees to give opinions.
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  Speaker 7: You as a column have to be unencumbered. You have
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  Speaker 7: to be free to do your job. You have to
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  Speaker 7: feel like you have a firewall that is between you
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  Speaker 7: and even the advertising arm at your at your entity.
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  Speaker 7: And when you lose that, if there's a fracture in that,
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  Speaker 7: it's impossible to your job. And and it stops being uh,
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  Speaker 7: it stops being journalism, it stops being uh, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the fourth estate, it stops being free speech, and it
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  Speaker 7: delves into something else. And you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 7: the full details on this, and I haven't heard from
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  Speaker 7: the Seattle Times, but the stuff that Matt Hawkin's put
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  Speaker 7: out there is troubling that it is alarming to me
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  Speaker 7: that something.
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  Speaker 8: That he wrote.
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  Speaker 7: If it's true that he was censored or the columns
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  Speaker 7: were killed because you know, it was just too much,
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  Speaker 7: too much hate for the paper where they were concerned
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  Speaker 7: about backlash, then that's a deal breaker. And and I
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  Speaker 7: could see why he would step away. I can tell
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  Speaker 7: you this, like when you have a firewall, and I
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  Speaker 7: worked at six different pace papers, When you have a
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  Speaker 7: firewall in upper management that you feel like has your back,
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: it really is liberating. It is you feel free to
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: go do your job. You'll feel free to tell the truth.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: You feel free to bring readers places that you can
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: go that they can't get to. And when that breaks
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: down or is even threatened, there's a problem there. And
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: I did in the late tenure at the Oregonia, and
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: it was one of the alarm bells that went.
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: Off for me.
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: Like I had had great bosses that really insulated me
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: from the kind.
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: Of backlash that you talked about.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: The Blazers came in and pulled their advertising because they
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: didn't like the columns that I were writing, and I
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: didn't even know about it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: Like you know, the upper.
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: Management did such a good job of insulating me that
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: they didn't even tell me.
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: The Blazers came in and pulled their advertising.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: I found out from the Blazers and I was like, Wow,
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: I really work at a paper that wants me to
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: go do my job. And later in my tenure, it
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: wasn't that people were killing my columns, but I was
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: critical of It was during COVID, and it was during
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: mass and I wrote a couple of columns that were
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: critical of the governor of the state of Oregon, asking
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: where was she unmasking for athletes who were competing outdoors
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: in track and field and soccer and and in in
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: sports where you know, the the infection rates were not
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: high and these were young people, and what are we
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: doing to these kids that are running the four hundred
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: meters and collapsing at the finish line?
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: And I did.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: I had an editor call me and say, hey, it
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: looks like you're beating up on the governor. And I'm like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: why are you even telling me that? Like why are
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: we having this conversation. It wasn't the deal breaker for me.
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: Nobody killed a column. It was just a little bit
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: of pressure, a little bit of you know, hey, read
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: your column don't totally agree with it. That I don't
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: need and Matt Hawkins doesn't need that. And so if
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: you're a person who reads the Seattle Times, you have
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: to be asking yourself today, what did that newspaper not tell.
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: You over the years?
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: Why are they trying to steer the opinions of their
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: columnists instead of setting their columnists free to do their jobs?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Well, said John Canzona joining us johncanzono dot com ball
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Face Truth. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube. We'll tell
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: you about that at the end of conversation as well.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You mentioned it. We're getting to that time of the
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: year college football were what is it to? Eight days,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: nine days away from Week zero in the college football season,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: getting really close. We're on the cusp of it, and
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: there's all kinds of news out there. Let me start
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: with this, the strangest thing. I'm still trying to wrap
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: my arms run it. I was on the call for
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Compass Media, the national radio call on Saturday and for
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Dallas and Seattle, and I'm sitting there and I was
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: calling a guy by the name of TJ. Harden At
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: running back for the Seattle Seahawks in a preseason game.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: And now I see that he is in the transfer
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: portal and maybe going to go back to college. First
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: of all, I'll just say this, you ain't getting much
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: with him, but two, but two, John, He's not the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: only one. There's a handful of guys that have been
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: an NFL training camp cent are now trying to go
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: back to college. What are we doing?
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: Well, they're following the money.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: They know that the opportunity in college might be better
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: for them than the opportunity in the NFL.
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: It's interesting.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: I just talked to Oregon Athletic Director Rob Mullins just
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: a few minutes ago before you know, jumping on this
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: call with you, and you know, he said, look, we
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: need uniform rules state the state. You can't have temporary
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: restraining orders, you can't have injunctions that come in.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: We need a uniform.
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: Set of rules that that gives us eligibility and guidance
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: on eligibility. I think this underscores the need for the
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: federal legislation that comes in and trumps all that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: But it should be five years of eligibility.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: It should be a single transfer unless there's a coaching change.
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: It should be very simple.
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, we're in this era now where This is absolute absurdity,
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: and a lot of the programs are gonna be tempted
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: to go, well, wait a minute, if that's the rule,
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: let's go get guys that have eligibility left like it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: I think this is really troubling and it threatens college athletics.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: How can a guy be Eligi who was in an
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: NFL training camp. That's the part I just can't. I
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: can't wrap my arms around that he was in and
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: take not just in a camp. John he played and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: he's not the only one. The guy from the Buccaneers too,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: played in preseason games.
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's already been to UCLA and SMU and you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: scored twenty one touchdowns in his career and went into
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: the draft, you know, signed with the Cleveland Browns, then
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: they got wave, he got waved, and he signed with
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks, and then he played in the game, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: even recovered a fumble in the game, and then he
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: gets waved. And so what he's doing is the professional
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: opportunity for him is in college athletics.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: And so he's he's.
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: Exercising and jumped at loophole and maybe we need it
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: to burn down in like maybe the whole thing.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: This needs to burn down and be rebuilt in the
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: right way.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: And and this, I think is like lighting a match
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: on one end of college athletics.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I keep hearing about, you know, like the realignment again.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: And there's obviously the situation in Washington, d C. And
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: whether or not that's going to go through or not.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: But if that does, it makes you know, realignment and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: moving conferences hard. What would burning it all down look like?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: What would it look like a year two or ten
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: or five, however many years down the road, what would
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: that look like.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Well, I think if it's gonna, if they're gonna let
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: it burn down, it happens sooner rather than later. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: I have talked to some athletic directors who say, look,
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: this Protect College Sports Act is great, but it's a
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: band aid because even you know, maybe the better thing
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: would let this thing go. Let it go all the
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: way off the rails, Let all eligibility get challenged, Let
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: the transfer portal just become unrestricted free agency all the time.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: Let donors come in and just buy players and see
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: how that goes. Because it's not sustainable. These programs are all,
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: you know, even the programs that are winning at a
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: high clip are coming back on their nine to ninety
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: forums and on their tax filings and saying, hey, we
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: didn't make any money.
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: In fact, we lost money to winning a national championship.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: It just it is not a sustainable system, and I
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: I think burning it all the way down would look like, hey,
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: there's no there's widespread impropriety one state to another state.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: There's a lack of consistency, and you start to see
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: media companies and fans tune out on it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: You know, this Protect College Sports Act.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: I do think it's going to get passed in September.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: I think it will become a law. The question is
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: what will they put in it? And then, oh, by
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: the way, three to five years from now, are we
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: going to even have four or five conferences or is
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: it just going to be the Big two and then
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: everyone else?
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: What are we looking at?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Awesome guy, You've built a great career and have built
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: everything that John Cannson dot com is ball face Truth,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: largely on uncovering college athletics. You and Wilner's podcast is phenomenal.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But what you've done is is remarkable Since coming to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Oregon twenty years ago, I said two thousand and two.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I dated both of us. It was two thousand and six,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: but it was twenty years ago when you got there, John,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: along those same lines, you do it because you love
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: college sports and football, basketball and all the sports you cover,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: all of them. Are you losing your your I guess,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: passion for what you used to love about college sports.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: No.
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: And for me, I'm weird and that I geek out
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: on trying to figure out where it's going, what happened,
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: what happened behind the you know, castle walls, the palace intrigue,
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: all of that stuff.
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: The drama of it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: Matters to me, and who's pulling the levers matter to me?
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: Is it television? Is it private equity? That stuff is
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: fascinating to me because I think the more sunshine we
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: put on it, I mean, really going back to the
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: original point where we started talking about your ability to
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: do your job and take people behind the scenes without
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: worrying about, you know, having.
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: Layers between you and your reader.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: That stuff, to me is interesting, and the succession of
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: college football and these programs is interesting. What happens to
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: Oregon after Phil Knight is interesting to me. But when
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: the games kick off, I'm still like college football fans
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: and that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: I love the sport of it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: I love the competition of it, I love the games
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: of it. I'm going to enjoy watching these Pac twelve
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: teams try to figure out who gets who's who's going
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: to get a shot at getting to the playoff and
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: once they get there are the you know, we'll the
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: league champion in the Pac twelve if they make the playoff?
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: Will they get their teeth kicked in?
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: Probably?
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: And we have to deal with that and what that means.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: But I also am interested can Jetfish and Washington can
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: they matter? And what the Big Ten's like a reality show?
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: And you know, you have different tiers of families and
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: they're trying to get into that top tier and make
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: the playoff.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Can they get there? There's just a lot of that
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: intrigue that fascinates me.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I also think that when you I'm
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: curious as things going now, listen, I mean, a tenant
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: says everything. But you know, I went to one Wazoo
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: game last year and the tail gaining, like it all
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: felt the same. You know, it was a non conference
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: game against San Diego State. Every game last year is
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a non conference game. I guess now that I think
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: of it the last two years, but you know it's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: a non conference game. September, Weather's warm was great and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I I thought to myself, this feels normal. This feel
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like a game in Pullman. I don't know what Beaver
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: fans think, and it still feels the same down in Corvallis, Washington,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Oregon fans. It probably feels the same on a game
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: even though the opponents are different. I guess I'm wondering
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: when the field changes. Maybe it's when the lack of
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: interest in some of those conference games jumps up. Although,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, you covered a million games in Corvallis.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I did at Wazoo. You know, when went to a
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: bunch Hell Washington and Oregon. Arizona rolling in was never
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: any big deal, right, It was never exciting. It's like,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: oh here come the Wildcat, super like, nobody cared like
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: it was different. Stanford's kind of the same ways after
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that little run for Harbaugh, USC made a difference. Things
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: like that. I'm just wondering, from your standpoint, do you
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna just feel that much different for the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: average fan or do you think it's gonna be kind
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: of a lesser deal for especially those PAC twelve schools.
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: I think that this next three to five seasons is
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: really a lot of transition. And I think the intrigue
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: in this next three to five seasons is who separates
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: in the new Pact twelve. Who positions themselves for whatever
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: comes next? How much access to the playoff can the
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: PAC twelve or the American or the Sun Belt Conference?
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: How much access to the playoff can those conferences get?
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: Can they muster enough to matter and register? Boise State
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: regiters as a brand. Boise State has an opportunity, if
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: you know, if what I think is gonna happen in
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: the Big ten in the SEC trickles down to the ACC.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: In the Big twelve, there'll be about eight spots potentially
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: that could come open in the bottom of the Power
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: four for some upwardly mobile schools to slide into.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: So who gets in position? Is it Boise State? San
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: Diego State?
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: Can Washington State and Oregon State slide into that position? Tulane, Memphis,
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: South Florida? Can they slide in that position?
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: Army or Navy?
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: Can they become schools that would play at the bottom
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: of the power four.
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: I think those are the questions right now that are
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: out there.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: But I think, you know, when you see Fresno State
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: come to Pullman or you see Utah State come to Pullman,
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's going to move the needle in the.
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: Way that USC and UCLA did.
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: No, I don't think, you know, you're not gonna be
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: able to sell those parking spaces around the stadium for
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: fifty bucks. But I think there's gonna be a little
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: bit of Okay, this is a game Washington State has
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: to win this season in order to become a candidate
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: for getting into whatever comes next or positioning itself for
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: what comes next. But I could foresee in five years
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: they're only being a Big two, a power two with
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: the Big Ten in the SEC and then a second
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: tier of schools that include you know, the Big twelve
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: the ACC. I think, you know, there's a real threat
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: that Miami Clemson in Florida State could move to the SEC.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: There's a threat that Notre Dame could end up somewhere else.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: Could they end up in the Big Ten. And if
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: that happens, you know, I don't think the fate of
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: the ACC, of the Big twelve is much different than
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: the new PAC twelve.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: That's why I was going ask you if you're sitting
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: in the Big twelve or the ACC and you're not
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: one of the gools you just mentioned, and Miami top
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: of the list, Clemson maybe, but it's only a flip.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, God, they're not good yet, I say maybe.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I mean dabbles there it's and then North Carolina in
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: in the Big twelve. God, I don't even knowing the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Big twelve, to be honest with you, maybe at Texas Tech, right,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: maybe that I if you're not those schools, you could
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: find yourself in the same boat as the PAC twelve
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and the other group of six is right, I.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: Think there already are, because remember we have the luxury
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: of history and Larry Scott we saw it in twenty eighteen.
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: I started writing about the PAC twelve was in trouble.
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: You know, it was twenty eighteen.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: Hey, the schools are getting ten million dollars a year
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: less than the schools in the SEC and the Big ten.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: They were falling behind.
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: And everyone went, well, it's just ten million dollars, and
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: I said, yeah, but it's ten million dollars times ten years.
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: You're talking about a deficit of one hundred million dollars.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: So how do you compete if your Cow or your
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: Arizona or you know, you're a legacy Pack twelve school
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: and you don't have Phil Knight. And it's why in
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: that era, I really think it explains why Oregon rose
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: and why Utah rose, and even to some respect, why
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: Washington State was able to kind of matter a little
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: bit suddenly. If you were funded at a level that
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: was ten million dollars a year less than your peers
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: and other conferences over five, six, seven, ten years, you
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: had to be an outlier.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: You needed Phil Knight. You needed Mike Leach who could be.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: Your offensive coordinator and your head coach and be a
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: little different in outside the box. You needed Utah Kyle
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: Whittingham and a fan base that is really rabid and
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: different that when you know, was selling out games.
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: You needed to be a different kind of school to
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: rise in that era.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: I think it definitely explains why USC fell off. I
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: think Washington's success. You look at Chris Peterson, tremendous coach
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: who brought culture. He brought what he learned at Boase
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: State to Washing You had to be a little bit
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: of an outlier to make up for that ten million
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: dollars a year. The big ten s in the SEC
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: are now doing that to the big twelve in the ACC.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: They're getting less in CFP distributions, they're getting less in
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: media money. You cannot compete. So you know what we're
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: left with is a big two.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: It's remarkable where it's gone. Just real quick. Two more
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: things for John Canzono. One, just to wrap up this conversation.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: This Curtesy, my buddy Matt Lovelace. He's a professor over
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: at Washington State in the Merles School, And someone asked
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: in the day you know stated it. Hey, one team
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: has started the season underrank, finished in the top ten
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: in the AP, top twenty five, pall twenty nine in
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the last thirty two years. So people talk about the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: polls that they matter. At least one has jumped into
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: that top ten twenty nine out of last thirty two years.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Wa Zuo's done it more than anybody at four times
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: during that span. I'm thinking that that's going to be
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: hard to replicate in the future.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it looks that likes the top eighteen schools or
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: so in your polls every year will probably be the
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: same characters over and over. I do wonder how, you know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: Vanderbilt in Purdue and Illinois, I wonder how Northwestern, how
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: do those schools expect to keep up with, you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: the fifteen or eighteen schools that can really spend, because
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: even within the Power four and even within the Power too,
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: you have tiers that have formed and we all kind
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: of know that there, you know, there's probably like eight
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: or ten schools that really could hope to get to
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: the National Championship Game this year.
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: So yes, it's becoming less and less.
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: Of a wide open feel in college football and in
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: college basketball. The Cinderella's gone from the NCAA tournament. I
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: didn't see George Mason. I didn't I didn't see Butler
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: in the tournament. I saw a bunch of Power two,
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: Power four schools.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: And it's probably gonna be that way for a while.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Final thing for a John Canzano, what's the latest on
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the Blazers.
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: It's still problematic.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, this whole Lakers thing has really raised some
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: questions in the NBA about how much diligence they do
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: about ownership groups. I can't help but think that Tom
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: Dundan's group is getting their finances in order and to
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: make sure that on paper they look good, because it
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: looks like the NBA just did not look into Mark
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: Walter and did not look into how he was funding
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: this his Lakers investment and where was the money borrowed from.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: And so I think, you know, it really does put
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: I think a magnifying glass on what is happening in Portland.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: I think the league wants the team in Portland. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: think Tom dund And bought the team in Portland hoping
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: to make as much money as he possibly could. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: don't know if that is going to be in Portland,
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: because I think he sees opportunities beyond Portland. So I
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: think if the city and the state, which have by
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: the way bent over backwards given him everything that he wants,
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: they continue to do that, I think they have a
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: shot to keep the team. But he may ultimately have
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: bought Blazers at four and a quarter billion dollars because
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: he knew that Vegas and Seattle were gonna cost him
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: seven eight, nine, ten billion, and that it may be
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: as simple as that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Kenzonod Wilder the podcast. By the way, the last update
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: was five days ago. I've already listened to it. Episode
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: ninety three, So I hoping a new one comes out soon.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, tell people about I blame Willaner. He's
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: softies guy, Just blame him. I would say this, go
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to the ball face truth on YouTube right. And also
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: John Kanzona dot com, did I get what people need
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: to see for you?
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's people. That's where you find me, John canzono
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: dot com.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: You can even link to the YouTube on the menu
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: right there on the on the website. But it's you know, look,
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: I'm writing, I'm having fun. The YouTube show is wild,
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: it's different, and I love being on video. I'm getting
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: access to people in places that I didn't have before,
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: and that's my whole goal. Like there's nobody between me
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: and the viewer, nobody between me and the reader.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I like it that way. You know what, Keep doing
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: what you do, buddy, you do it better than anybody
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: out there. Love having you on, appreciate it really cool
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: to see the success on your own ventures as well.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: So and I'll keep her freshing to see when the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Canzon and Wilner the podcast is going to come back up.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. I'm just busting your chops. I'm
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: busting here. Listen. I like the content, you know, I
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: like the content. Sometimes you gotta put Wilner in his place,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: and I really enjoy that part of the content too,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: So uh you know, keep him, keep him straight. Good
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: talking to you, my friend. Talk to you soon. That's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: John Canzona. We'll take a break, come back with more
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: than three point three KJRFM. Real quick segment. Here is
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a big thanks to John Canzono. Weall face truth. Johncanzano
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: dot com. Good stuff on the state of college athletics, sports,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: et cetera, and also the situation. Matt Holkins, if you're
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: just joining us resigning, is one of the columnists for
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: the The uh Sale Times after eleven years with the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: newspaper of record here in Washington. And I'll get in
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit more of this later. And let me
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: just be perfectly clear what Matt wrote and what he
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: wanted to write when he ended up writing on a substack.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna go down that road. I haven't,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: but my point is simple. You're a newspaper, you have
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: an opinion section, you have columnists, you pay them to
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: express opinions. And I think if it was a one off,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: then it's one thing, but a one off was five
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: or six years ago. Then it was a second time,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and a third and fourth where what he wanted to
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: write was he was muted on it. I'm excited tomorrow
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: because I'm always excited to talk to Danie O'Neil. But
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Danie O'Neil's going to join us for his weekly visit tomorrow,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and that will be at one o'clock. I think we're
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: going to shoot for one probably as opposed to one
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to twenty. We'll be at Georgetown's Brewing tomorrow, but we'll
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: have Danny on tomorrow. Danny a longtime Seattle Times writer,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: beat reporter. His wife, who now works for the New
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: York Times, was part of the editorial board for the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Seattle Time. So I would say tomorrow is going to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: be an interesting and fun conversation with one Dannie O'Neill
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: tomorrow in the one o'clock hour. You don't want to
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: miss that. This story's got massive traction. The unfortunate part
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: is it's now turning into what we all thought it would.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: It's a rallying cry for one side or the other.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: M hm.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: The story is not the column that he wanted to write.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: The story is that the newspaper of record did not
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: want to let him write a handful of stories and
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: columns over the years. That's the story. This is not
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a hey, you know, this is this is not.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: This is an appropriate material for our paper. It's that
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: they're muting a columnist.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, and what they're and then now what's happened is
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: people on either side of what he did want to
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: write about and what he wrote about on substack or
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: are using it as either you know, for their gain
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: one way or the other.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: But it's just we're making the assumption there. That's what
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: we're talking about.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: There's days I just I just I just want to
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: crawl in a hole. I'll be honest with you. There's
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: days I just want to crawl in a hole.
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: I just do.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I just I just want. I just I'm excited for tomorrow.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: We're with the beer release. We're gonna raise a bunch
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: of money by selling beer, really good beer to everyone
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: tomorrow at Georgetown. I'm excited for the inspiration that provides
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: for three great groups Jordan Morris Foundationallynsky's Hope, and every
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Huffman DIPG. I'm excited for that because I'm tired of
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: so much of the other stuff. I'm actually tired of
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: watching Josh Naylor as well. My god, oh my god,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: that was that was supposed to my favorite guy this year. Wow,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: what has happened to you? Dude? All right, we'll take
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: a break Seahawks preseason games. A little hardcore football humiling next.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
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  Speaker 2: Chilseahaw's getting in a plane today. They're flying to Nashville.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Joint practice against Titans is scheduled for tomorrow. Travon Diggs
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: expected to be there as well. He talked to the
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: media yesterday and excited to be here in Seattle. Why
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: wouldn't you be You're playing for the defending Super Bowl champions.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: Not a bad choice.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: He's been a pro bowler, been banged up a little bit,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: hasn't had quite the success the last couple of years.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Was on the street, but the Seahawks signed him because
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: they're still waiting for Terry Arnold's situation to be figured out.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out more about that on Tuesday
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: with the next episode of Hard Knocks. Sounders lost again
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: last night, falling two one to Austin. They were down
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: to nothing, scored to goal in the nineteth minute, but
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: they've now lost eight straight losses games rather in the MLS,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Brian Schmetzer leading publicly for upper management. Craig Wible the
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: GM on radier and how are to get more veteran players?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what you can do at this point.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like there's this veteran players everywhere.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Schmeetz love you just might be that kind of year
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: for you. This is not a vet tree out in
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the not a vet tree. Yeah, I can't go find
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: that tree. Let's see, Let's go find a guy that's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: equal to Christian rolled on Or and Jordan Morris, right,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: and they got a couple other guys that are constantly hurt.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: So away we go. Jane Higgins, Houston, Texans wide receiver
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: out for the year. ACL. How about our friends from
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the sound View Little League there are from Tacoma, Washington.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: The two five three first game in the Little League
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: World Series was yesterday. They got a win over Phoenix City,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Alabama to nothing. Was the final they played next schedule
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: to play next to Oorrow. There's a bunch of rain
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: back there in William Sports, so we'll see if everything
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: stays on schedule or not. Let's talk a little football
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: with Hugh Millon. My friend Hu Milan joined us. I
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: was mentioned Hugh earlier. I said last week when we
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: had John previewing the preseason game, I said, Hey, you know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I can't wait. We'll do hardcore football on Monday, preseason
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: style could because this is a preseason friendly show on
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: like Softy, And then I forgot that I was off Monday,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: so I wanted to kind of get John recap a
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: little bit last Friday or last Saturday, and then also
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: look ahead to Tennessee. But all that, maybe we're going
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: to take a step back for a second, because there
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: has been news in the last forty five minutes or so.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: As is the Seahawks right now, actually as we speak
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: or holding a press conference with Trevon Diggs. He is
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: being introduced at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center after a
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: short walk through today before the team heads to Tennessee.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: So Diggs, Trevon Diggs does sign with Seattle Q. They
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: played sixth defensive six cornerbacks, I should say last Saturday
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: against the Dallas Cowboys. In that preseason game, the only
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: two that did not play were Witherspoon and Josh Job.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Jamar John Charles is out for the season. He's on
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: IR so he's one of those guys gone. My quick thought,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: this seems to be common sense, but I want yours
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: and you go deeper on the the dig signing. Does
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: that tell us that, hey, they're just not happy with
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: what they've seen at that cornerback position.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: I would think so. I mean, there's certainly room for
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: an interpretation that that they're happy with their corners, but
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: they can't have enough. But my sense would be just
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: kind of analyzing the team. I thought that going into
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl that that maybe the guy on the
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: defense that would be most targeted would be Josh Job.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: And that's when they had Rek Wollan. So that now
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Reeke Wollan departs, you don't replace him other than Julian Neil,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: excuse me, the third round cornerback, and you know he
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: he wasn't playing. So so I think that there was
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: a maybe a feeling that there's always some chance greater
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: in zero that Julian Neil would have impressed as a
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: third rounder, right, Like, wasn't helped me out the third
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: rounder that made the Pro Bowl for us? He had
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: he had there with the.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Max arm Oh yeah, yeah Griffin, Shaquille Griffin, Yeah yeah
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: yeah Griffin. Yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: So and he was a third rounder and started as
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: a rookie, so that that was on the table certainly
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: that Julian Neil could come in and impress that way.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: But but I think that it also speaks to Neamia Pritchett,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: and there was a feeling that he would step up
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: after having been a fifth round pick in twenty twenty four,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: and uh, you know, you know, I'm my gut tells
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: me that hasn't emerged, maybe the degree to the degree
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: they were hoping. So I don't know, Uh, it just
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: everything that's happening with these corners, it's not a good
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: sign in my opinion, right well, because you know, I
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: mean what Trayvon Diggs was. Couldn't have you assigned him?
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Wasn't he on the street?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I think the only thing I was talking to Great
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Bill about that because I thought the same thing. The
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: only thing I guess I would say that maybe with Diggs,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: a guy that's been around, He's got a little bit
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: of a resume. He might have been one of those
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: veterans that was waiting for the exact spots that he
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: wanted to go. Maybe he had two or three teams,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: maybe hoping one of them would call. And I don't know, Hugh,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: it's a training camp. I mean, like Aaron Aaron Donald's
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: gonna sign. Now, he's not the same player as Aaron Donald.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I get that, But Aaron Donald's gonna probably sign with
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the Rams. He ain't gonna He's not doing it during
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the heat of training camp, right, Like you just kind
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: of wait until the time is right. So I don't
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: know that's the only thing because I thought the same
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: thing I asked Greg that I was talking to him
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: about a minute ago, like why wouldn't the guys signed,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Like every team needs cornerbacks, right, it's, you know, arguably
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: one of the most important positions on the field. So
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: it is odd in that regard. But maybe he was
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: just waiting for the right situation.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Well maybe, I mean, if he felt he had that leverage.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: We'll know whenhen the contract details come out. Yeah, well,
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: you know it's is it more likely to be that
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: that he he didn't you know that that he didn't
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: have great options, or is it more likely to be
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: that he had a ton of great options and he
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: just was going to leverage and sit out. You know what,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: most football players are in a training camp right now,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: and Aaron Donald is a first ballot Hall of Former arguably,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: you know, you could make a case the greatest defensive
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: tackle of all time. There'd be other guys in that discussion.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: But but you know him at thirty five or thirty yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: thirty five years old and having sat out a couple
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: of years. Very unique situation there. I don't I don't
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: know that that applies much. I think I think it's
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: more likely that Diggs, I don't know, he's just a
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: what's his agency?
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: He's twenty seven, Yeah, he's young man, and it's that's odd.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm ignorant, you know what. I had heard
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: somebody say he hadn't played in a few years, so
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna look at any tape because I thought, well,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: what if he hasn't started in a few years.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: He played for Green Bay last year at the end
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: of yeah, yeah, but you know what, he did start.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he started for the Cowboy has started
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: six games for the Cowboys and in a game for
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: the Packers. So I gotta I gotta get on the tape.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: But look back to the corners of the stuff that
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: we can speak on more of a solid ground from.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: I think it's a concern.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you about let me ask you
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: about the Mike McDonald defense. Because we do hardcore here,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: so let me let me ask you this that position.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Because one of the things that we've seen with with football,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the evolution over the years. I thought it was an
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: interesting thing last night, for example, people watching Hard Knocks
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: and they show the defensive line room and in that
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: defensive line are all the edge rushers too, right, but
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: they're all called outside linebackers. Terminology is a different thing, right,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Like in terms of who is what when we talk
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: about cornerbacks in the Seahawks Mike McDonald's system. Now you've
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: got Emon Warri who's listed as a safety, but you
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: and I've talked about he's more of what a sam linebacker,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: right how they play him and they play so much
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: nickel Maybe to play some dime. Let's talk about just
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: how important the true cornerback CB is in the Mike
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: McDonald's system, how he's utilized and frankly, Hugh, I'll ask
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: you this, This may sound goofy. How many do they need?
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Because we know Witherspoon and job, but what else do
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: they need in terms of what they want to do
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: with all the safeties they have Bud Clark, they want
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: to get him on the field. They're talking about geting
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Tyree SNTT and field more. What do they want to do?
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Do you think, well, we don't have to make this
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: complicated that a cornerback in a Mike McDonald's system has
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: the same responsibilities at its root. Now there's details, there's
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: a lot of adjustments, but as most coverages, when the
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: corner lines up, I'll just say, from a quarterback perspective,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: we say who if our widest guy, if our number
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: one and number one is the widest guy close to
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: the sideline, our number one receiver, if he runs a
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: go route, who's responsible? Just ask yourself that, because every
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: coverage will break down based on that answer. If the
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: corner is the answer, then there's a burden on that
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: corner because he has to stop the go route first,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: and then any I'll just throw him into a category
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: of stop routes. Could be a hitch, could be a hook,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: could be a comeback, even a speed out depending on
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: the split. Anything where you don't go a go route
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: and the cornerback is expected to drive on the football.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: There's a burden there. That's like, you know, it'd be
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: like taking away the pitcher, you know, a change up
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: or an off speed pitch from a fastball. If there's
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: only the fastball, then then you know it wouldn't be
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: hard to hit. Well, if if everybody only ran a
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: go route, then you could cover a go route, just
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: turn and run. But the problem if you don't have
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: safety help is you've got to say, well, I got
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: to defend the go route first, but I got this
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: whole you know, library of routes that stop in front
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: of me. I still I can't. I can't be inept
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: on those. I have to cover those as well. So
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: so then you say the other category of coverages is
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: where the where you say this, no, if if the
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: widest receiver, if the number one receiver runs a go route,
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: the safety hasn't. Now that's an entirely different I don't
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: even say burden. It's just an assignment for the corner.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: He's got to redirect make sure that that the wide
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: receivers and does not have free access into the secondary
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: just running like a track guy out out of a
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: track block.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: You want to.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Redirect him and then now you hand him over to
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: the safety. Well, that's that's a form of of of
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: zone double covers. That that in fact, that is the
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: most common way the wide receivers are double covered. Exactly
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: what I just said. And so, uh so where are
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks. So the only the only defense that you'd say,
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: the corners, uh you know, get get to take the
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: night off is when you play cover two. Cover two
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: is the corner rolls up on both sides. Hear me
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: out on that both sides, the corner jams, he's in
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: the flat. He's what the term is, since we're in
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: hardcourt's called cloud coverage. Cloud just corner begins the cloud
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: begins with a sea. That's why it's called cloud. That's
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: back in the days with a sky coverage, the safety
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: begins with an S. So he had sky and cloud.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: So but cloud is ubiquitous a football term. You could
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: say that in any high school coach, convention, college Coaching
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Convention Pro football coaching cloud is a ubiquitous term just
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: means corners in the flat and a safety's over the top.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Cover two is the defense that does that to both sides.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: The Seahawks are twenty third out in the league in
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: terms of their propensity to run cover two. Now, the
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Seahawks are number one in what's called cover six, and
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: cover six is cover two to one half. So what
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: did I I was just described And the easy way
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: on on for a corner is if you play cover two,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: well guess what you play Cover six. One of those
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: corners is getting the benefit of the safety over the top,
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: and Seattle's number one in the NFL in cover six.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: In fact, there's only one other coverage where the Sea
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Arcs are in the top half and and and that
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: is where did that burger go? I take it back,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: There isn't any there. If I'm filtering all other coverages,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: they are in the bottom half of the league.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, at quarters they're seventeenth, and cover three they're twenty fourth,
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: so yeah, everything, but they're number one in cover six.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: So they they play an array of coverages. But but
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: the one cover let me just condense this cover six
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: is one corner gets the help over the top. Easy
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: to play, You and I could play it. I just
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: jam the guy, redirect him. Now, now that's obviously a
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: big exaggeration, but not as much as an exaggeration as
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: you think. You and I could actually go play one
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: play and we and the Seahawks would not give up
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: a touchdown because all we do is do our best
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: to try and jam the receiver. We wouldn't do a
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: very good job. But but then there would be the
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: safety's responsibility.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Now, if they ran a screen to our side and
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: here comes a lineman, Uh, that's a whole nother discussion.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: So like, neither of us want that big offensive tackle
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: coming out to kick us out. But but but I digress. So,
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: but on the opposite side of cover six, the corner
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: does have the go route to the back of the
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: end zone. He has help to the inside on on
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: on dagger routes. Now there's I'm sitting here in live
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: radio trying to say how much do I I want
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: to explain that the safety on the other side, opposite
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: side of the cloud, he reads the vertical release of
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: number two. Who's number counting?
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Outside end? If number two, the slot receiver or the
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: tight end goes vertical beyond five yards. Now the safety
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: takes him. Now the corner on the other side is
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: it away from the cloud? He has man and man,
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: so he is right to get beat by a post so.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: So so passing game construction, you want to do what
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: to decide to cover six? You want to run the
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: slot receiver at the safety, which eats him up. That
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: doesn't allow him to rob any en routes because now
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: he's got to cover the safety. And then the corner
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: has the post so and the go route and and
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: out routes and what have you. So there's more of
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: a burden on the corner opposite of the cloud. A
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: lot of football terms going out there. But but hopefully
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I got your attention when I said the Seahawks are
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: number one in the NFL in the use of that coverage.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: So so okay, how does this pertain that what Mike
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: McDonald can do if he says, hey, I don't trust
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: one of my corners, he can't. He doesn't want to
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: do this. What I'm about to say is that doesn't
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: put him in any comfortable zone at all. But in
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: a in a pinch, Uh yeah, Uh he can. He
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: can say, hey, we're just we're gonna we can we
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: can Uh, we can roll cover six to two a
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: week cornerback. Now there there's time. There's some teams, including
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks, you want to roll to the boundary receiver,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: the X receiver, the single side receiver to help and
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: then and then you play off coverage to the field.
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Sometimes the Seahawks will roll to the trips, roll to
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: the field and and leave the the corner on the
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: X on an island.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: You know what's called meg coverage in their terminology. Man
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: everywhere he goes, you know, just solo the backside, you know, roll,
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: roll on the trips, roll to the field, get a
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: lot of bodies over there, and then you know, you know,
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: pray to hell that that on the backside.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: You can.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: You can. You can play solo coverage with the running
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: back on the weak side and the X receiver so
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: so so they're they're there's This is all the things
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: that Mike McDonald would be uh thinking through, like, Okay,
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: if do I have a cornerback deficiency, how am I
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: going to play this?
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: So?
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: And the deficiency is it feels like you almost everybody's
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: not named Devin Witherspoon, to be honest with you, Yeah, right.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, and Witherspoon, you know, he played less
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: snaps in the slot than he had at any year,
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: so that they were trying to keep him more outside, uh,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: in the dime packages. That that's where uh, Emon Worry
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: who who is as you said that the nickel sam
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: in there in there what they would call their base,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: which which the league would call nickel. Right, just think
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: of this. We talked all damn year that hey, Nick
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Am and Worry had it was either seven or eight
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: deep half snaps like in the back half. Right, and
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: so he's not playing safety, playing freaking linebacker, right and
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: uh And then finally before the forty nine er playoff game,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald went on record, he says, you know, really,
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: all we have is just a really crazy athletics sam linebacker.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Because because it because it would love it. Okada would
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: be on the field in playing in the deeper in
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: the secondary as safeties.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Sam Cotta Okada when they weren't healthy, Ian, you're right,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: and Nakada played a ton, But but when they were healthy,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: uh finally didn't Yeah, you had you had Kobean and
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Julian and the as the back half guys. You had
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Josh Jobinrique Woolen as the outside corners. And then your
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: slot you're what what's called your apex defenders, your overhang defenders, uh,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: your nickeled and dime Uh. They call it the star.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of terminology for the for those positions.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: But but Emon Worry is normally that the nickel sam
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: also called the star. And and and he would be
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: to the field side as a general rule, in nickel
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: when they went dime. Then Witherspoon he came in and
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: he would have the field side. Even Worry goes into
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: the boundaries. Less space to cover you give, you give
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: as a general rule in these zone coverages, you give
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon more ground to cover. And then all of a sudden,
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: as a quarterback, you're looking like, wait a minute, look
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: at those freaks as the overhang they're they're playing a
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: two high safety structure. That's a lot of burden on
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: those outside the linebacker slash nickel slash dime guys over
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: the slot, they got to cover a lot of ground. Hey,
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: we can work the flats and what have you. And
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you see the turbo button
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: that each of those athletes have and you go, wait
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: a minute. All the space I thought I had, I
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: don't have because they reduce space so quickly because of
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: the turbo buttons that they have. They're beautiful athletes, they're
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: great competitors, they're smart, they're well coached, and they're are
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: problem for a quarterback.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Well Diggs comes in, We'll see what happens with Arnold.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: That's still up in the air. But when we come back,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I got one more say with you. Here's what I
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: want to do again. This is a preseason friendly zone here.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I want Hugh Millen to tell us what he's laying
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: eyes on, specifically Sunday night, five o'clock national broadcast on
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Fox TV for preseason game number two. I'm going to
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: ask you maybe to even give me a little Jalen
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Milroll conversation with that if we could. We'll do that
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: next with Hugh mill in Hardcore Football preseason edition coming
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: up next.
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  Speaker 2: Prcore Football, Humillon, all right, Hugh Sunday, five o'clock, Fox TV,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: National TV, Tennessee, Seattle, preseason Game number two. What's Hugh
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Millen watching.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Well, there's a very cool stat about Mike McDonald that
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to a year ago. Between the
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Raider game, which was preseason game, in preseason game number two,
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: and in the Raider game again last summer, the Raider
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks were pretty much carving up the Seahawks backup defenders
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: and they on completions, Raider quarterbacks had air yards a
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: total of two hundred and thirty two, which we discussed
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: at the time, like, hey, that's a lot. In fact,
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks on that night only at one hundred and sixteen.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: Since that the beginning of the preseason in twenty twenty
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: five and including the forty nine games thus far of
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: this year, there's been one hundred and thirty two games
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: in preseason, counting both summers. That two hundred and thirty
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: two yards was the most air yards of all. Sorry,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: I said one hundred and thirty two offense. There's been
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: sixty six games. Sorry, I'm gonna go sixty six games,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: which means there's one hundred and thirty two offense offenses
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: to evaluate right, and defenses. That makes sense, I'm sorry, Yeah,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: it sounds confusing, But of the one hundred and thirty two,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: the worst defense and the best offense was the Raiders
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty two air yards on completed passes.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: The very next week against the Chiefs with the Andy
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Reid the genius and Gardner Minshew, a pretty damn highly
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: regarded backup. They the Chiefs had for the entire game
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: on completions fifteen yards. They went from thirty two thirty
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: two to fifteen. So if you take those again, I'm sorry,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: sixty six games, which means one hundred and thirty two
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: offenses and defenses we're evaluating. The very worst was the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: Seahawks against the Raiders, and the very best of them
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: was the Seahawks against the Chiefs. That happened in one week,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: the same guys, and so that's his ability, not just
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: with the starters, that's his ability to identify problems with
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: his defense and fix them. And so there's not much
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: to fix on the defense. Slant routes that if you
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: play the two high structures, You're going to see a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: lot of what's called what Mike Colemwan would call lion,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: which is two slants. I've been on teams what we
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: call it diesel, which is a word conjunction with double slant.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Get it the diesel double slant.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 9: Ye.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: And so they were giving up a lot of diesels
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: the other night, not a lot, but one for nine yards,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: one for ten yards, one for eleven yards, another one
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: they got a defensive holding, got an automatic first down.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: So I think that you're gonna see a better job
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: on again. And those slant routes, I'm more looking at
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: the offense. Ian, and I you know, to me, I'm
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: just kind of withholding judgment because I think it's the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: sensible position to be regarding Brian Floory.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: The number one thing that I don't want to say
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: we the number one thing I like about Brian Floory
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: is Mike McDonald chosen. That is the thing that makes
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: me feel the best. But I'm still gonna look at
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: the tape and and I can't say enough. I want
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: you to tell me the rules right now, Ian, forness,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: you tell me what's the rules that for evaluating preseason
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: game number one. Because if you tell me the rules
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: are it doesn't matter, then I'll withhold my comments. If
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: you're saying, hey, that's that's let's let's let's try and
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: evaluate it the way a team would, I'll give you
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: a different answer. So you tell me, because I don't
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: want to be accused of Oh, Millen, are you forgetting
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: that was preseason game number one? No, I'm very aware
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: of it was. But do you want do you want
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: my thoughts on it from a team perspective or just
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: a fan saying it's only preseason game?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: No, No, I think the rule is this. I think
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I want your opinion because I'll just do this. In
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Game one against Dallas this year, they played all the offense,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: where the twos effectively the two offensive line, number two
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: quarterback with Drew Locke. Yeah, and I'll use this. You
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: want to bring up the Chiefs game, I'll do this
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: last year in the Chiefs game Game two, in the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: preseason game one for Clint Kubiak as the new Seahawks
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, he was one and done after Ryan Grubb. Right,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: they came out and they had their ones play an
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: offensive series. Sam Darnold went four for four. So I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: think the rule is that whether it's the ones or
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: the twos, I think you can evaluate in a preseason
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: game at least what you see in terms of play calling,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: tempo and all those things.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Well, let me let me tell you about what they
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: did against the Chiefs on offense. There's a stat. It's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: not my stat. It's called play success. When you go
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: into the NFL stat portal, there's play success forty percent
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: of the needed yards on first down, so you got
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: to get you know, four yards on the yards, sixty
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: percent of the needed yards on second down, and all
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: of the needed yards on third or fourth down. Okay.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: The NFL average for success, uh this. I did this
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: calculation for the prior year, which was twenty twenty four,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: because I was I was calculating this for the chief
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: preseason game, preseason game number two, the NFL average for
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: success was forty seven point four percent. Okay. The Seahawks
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: in the first quarter against the Chiefs, of their plays,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: they went seventeen for seventeen on successful plays, one hundred
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: percent success rate. Okay, and now it turns out the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: first play of the second quarter was unsuccessful. But let
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: me go back to the first quarter, they were seventeen
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: of seventeen. If you, if you take now, forty seven
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: point four percent, is a s sessful play. I said,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: It's basically like flipping a coin. But if if you,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: if you just run it out mathematically using the forty
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: seven point four percent, assuming that the percentage of the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: odds of seventeen straight successful plays is one in three
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: hundred and thirty three hundred nineteen thousand and seventy three,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: given the average number plays for UH for the season
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: for each team is one thousand and fifty seven. Given
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: that average and ensue, and assuming the average success rate
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: of forty seven point four percent, a team would expect
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: to see seventeen straight successful plays exactly once out of
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: three hundred and seven years.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's the That is the efficiency and and and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: the math nerds out there are understanding this. You know
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: that that you know, getting a coin coin to flip
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: seventeen times, you know, uh, the same and then when
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: the coin is weighted against you like less than fifty percent,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: so at an event, uh what so what does all
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: that mean? Let's set the math geek stuff aside. What
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: they did in the first quarter against the Chiefs was
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: literally you could say historic, not that anybody cares. Was
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: the preseason. But now let's go to Brian Floory. There's
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: some things because I asked you to tell me the rules,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: and I'm just looking at say what does the offensive
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: tape look like? I can I'm gonna make a defensible statement.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: The offensive tape from Saturday Night against the Cowboys look
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: very poor, very sloppy, no precision, no details, things that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: would affect with regarding Brian Floory. What I see the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: quarterback mill Roll coming out on a boot. He's got
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: an over route coming from the backside. That's how you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: structure it. You got a down flat. That's usually, but
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: he's usually the guy that's trailing the play. You need
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: a guy in the flat. There's no there's nobody in
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: the flat. I don't know if a player busted, but
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: looking at the formation, it doesn't seem that way. So
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  Speaker 4: that that's a poorly constructed place on what's called a
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  Speaker 4: hank route, Mike holmgrin that you get just got two
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  Speaker 4: hooks on the outside, a guy sitting over the middle.
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  Speaker 4: There there's more detail, but I'm not going to get
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  Speaker 4: into it. Hey, there's a window in there. We didn't
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  Speaker 4: come and wrap around that against that coverage. Uh, we
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  Speaker 4: got to get that window. The Uh the Bobo on
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  Speaker 4: a deep hook, big miscommunication. Well, you got Cody White,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: He's coming on his zone on a shallow cross. He
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  Speaker 4: should be at about six yards. He's at nine yards.
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  Speaker 4: He's jogging, so he doesn't influence the defender.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Then Uh, Drew Locke looks like he you know, he
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: and and Bobo are not on the same page. Well,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: we're not getting the proper spacing and stretch on the defense.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: On the three route on oaki route, actually Milro's best play,
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  Speaker 4: we got, uh outside foot forward. Well that makes a
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  Speaker 4: six step route a seventh step route, which is fine.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: But I went and I looked at the uh all
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  Speaker 4: the plays last last year to you know, say like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: this has always been a inside leg forward, a sixth
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  Speaker 4: step you know, third inside step. We're doing speed out.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: That's the way that times out with the quarterbacks footwork.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: And and Milroe took a hitch. We shouldn't do that
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: on the on the on the three route, why is
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  Speaker 4: the outside leg ford? Well, I went back and looked
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  Speaker 4: at a basically ninety five percent I'm not gonna list
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  Speaker 4: you the teams like I can name you fifteen teams
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: watching Joe Burrow throw those three cuts, watching uh Justin
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  Speaker 4: Herbert throw those three cuts, watching Pat Mahomes. I could
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  Speaker 4: go on and on down the list. Uh. And and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: these are beautiful six step timings inside leg ford it
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: times up with the feet and and it just looks
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  Speaker 4: like a clinic. And then I'm like, why are we
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: putting the outside leg forward?
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  Speaker 9: So so?
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  Speaker 4: And then the final thing, final thing that I'll mention
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: fourth down, uh, fourth down down by the goal line. Yep,
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  Speaker 4: you've got your plays.
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  Speaker 9: And you know they had.
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  Speaker 4: Harden this this what TJ Harden aj Harden who just
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: got cut a couple of day. Yeah, you know, so
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  Speaker 4: they they called him on an option route and I'm
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: just thinking he knows, he had to know, he had
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  Speaker 4: to know that that that that's not how who you
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: want to feature in there, because the the route was
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  Speaker 4: as bad as you could be. So so at an
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: event all that.
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  Speaker 2: Let me let me let me wrap it up, because
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: I think I'm telling me if I'm right here when
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: we talk on Monday, hardcore football offense, the offense play
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: construction and and execution. You use the word sloppy, I'm
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. This is luckily no
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: one's here today, so it doesn't matter. But anyway, I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: gotta go, I gotta go. Let me just say this
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: on Monday, sloppy, Let's see if they clean that up.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: And I really want to get into it hardcore ways
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: on Monday about just the play the play structure. You
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: just say, that's a that's an alarming thing to me.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about that Monday. You're on with You're
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: on with Safty later today. At that point, you'll have
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: watched I'm sure some Trevan Diggs video and and probably
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: want to have something to say about the twenty two
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  Speaker 2: to nothing game.
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  Speaker 4: All right, indeed, and we've already be on the clock.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: Let me just say this, yeah that you know, I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: was on a Cowboy team that had just won the
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl a few months before, and we lost the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: opening preseason game and Jimmy Johnson's neck was as red
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: as a freaking apple and he was so pissed. And
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: the and the the the training, the intensity ramped so far.
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  Speaker 4: So so I'm just going by, like, hey, it matters.
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  Speaker 4: You want to be a suit and By the way,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: we repeated a super Bowl champs, like you want to
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: be a super Bowl champ. The first preseason game has
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: got a matter. And because you scored seven points and
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: look sloppy doing it. I want to see Mike McDonald
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: that that that marvelous, that that that historic turnaround that
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  Speaker 4: that he had. Uh, you know, we need to see
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: that from the offense.
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  Speaker 5: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: That is humil and great. Stuff with you is always phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: He's great. Love you. We will take a break, come back.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: We'll set up to two o'clock hour, which includes at
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: two pm our guy Brandon Funston talking all things fantasy football.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: We're gonna running backs. We may go running backs, receivers
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: or running backs.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: Cort.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: We'll start with the running backs and see where that
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: takes us today. Get you sent for your fantasy football draft.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Your questions are welcome at four nine, four or five
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  Speaker 2: to all that coming up next. All right, we're back
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  Speaker 2: here on Wednesday Thursday Thursdays a Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday Thursday afternoon.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Well I should know it's a Thursday, because we're just
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  Speaker 2: moments away from Brandon Funston unofficial unofficial start of the
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  Speaker 2: weekend music. You got that open er, you got that,
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  Speaker 2: all that, we'll take your your text messages four nine,
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  Speaker 2: four or five one. We're gonna keepers trades. I'm gonna
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: ask about running backs. I think that's go down that
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: road a little bit today. Help you prepare for your draft.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: So many people are getting close to that, so we'll
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: do that, coming up here in just a few minutes
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: with Funston. Can't wait, and then we'll take your text
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  Speaker 2: a lot of taxs four nine, four or five to one.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Here's here's the Here's the thing with the topic that
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: we brought up earlier, Matt Holkins resigning from the Times,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: it has First of all, it is blown up across
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: the country like blown up, and I don't want to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: lose sight of what my whole point of bringing it
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: up was. And that is just the fact that the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: newspaper of Record is censoring it's columnists, at least on
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: the sports side. At least this one comes and as
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Matt points out in his subtech. It wasn't just once,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: it's multiple times. And now he's give me a softy
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: today at six, So I think that'll be must listen
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  Speaker 2: to radio. I know pretty much everybody that country probably
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: wants to talk to Calkins right now. I got an
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: interesting text from a friend of mine who's a columnist.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Wait is he still Yeah? No, former columnist in another city.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: He walked away, and I always like these ones. Says
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: the tenant of journalism is to tell all sides, print
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: the column, and do another one telling the other side.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Let readers draw their own conclusions. That last line, you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: draw your own conclusion, you agree or disagree. I was
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: just telling Jess in the break. Greg Bell had a
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: rant last week, two weeks ago whenever it was after
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: the last Mariner homestand I think it might have been
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: been during the Homestand it was a Jimothy rant. Oh yes,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: And as I pointed out, as my thought was, I
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: don't agree necessary with Greg, because I think you can
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: separate marketing and selling tickets from the desire to win
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: a baseball team at a baseball game, or the desire
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: to be a good baseball team. I think you can
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: separate those two items. I don't think that. I don't.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: They're not mutually bound together. The job of one side is.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: And so we disagreed on that. And as Greg was
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: doing his thing that day, I mean, that's good sports radio.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: You make you think of a strong opinion. Do you
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: agree or do you disagree? It's really not that difficult.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: We just are a living in a world now where
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: people don't want to have a conversation. It's either yes
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: or no, I agree or I disagree. It's it's really remarkable,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: and it's so divisive at the same time. You know,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Keith Miller had just text it and I'll just read
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: it now. Usually we've keeped for the end. Free speech
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: can't come with an asterix. Good for men, it can't.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Free speech also is not I know there's a First Amendment,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: and I know in some ways it's guaranteed. It's it's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: guaranteed within limits, you know. I mean the famous one
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: obviously is you can't you know, you know, fire in
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: a crowded movie house or whatever, stuff like that. We
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: we just finished. Have you done all your training?
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  Speaker 5: By the way, Oh, I'm an A plus student. I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: get that done right away. Mostly so I don't get
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: hassled by management.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I finished mine yesterday, just in the nicked time.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Sensational stuff couldn't couldn't be happening. But there's things you
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: can't say, simple as that. It's I applaud Matt. I'm
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: disappointing the times. It makes me question a lot of things.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: If you don't take the popular to say popular. Because
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I think what Matt was going to, what Matt wrote
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: on a sub stack, which we wanted to write the paper,
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  Speaker 2: that's maybe the majority would agree with him. The more
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: majority of people would agree with him a loud, very
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: loud like like think of the people outside T mobile
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: parks screaming about, you know, the Bible verses that I
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: want to steal that volume of loud. Yes, that volume loud.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Minority didn't you know. I think the newspaper was a
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: afraid of that one hundred percent. They were afraid of
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: that with what Matt wanted to write, and so you
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: go down that road. I'm really I can't wait to
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: hear what he has to say. I talked to him
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: out at Seahawks training camp the first day of camp,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: what three saturdays for Saturdays ago whenever it was in July,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: and I knew, and i've when we were when I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: was traveling with the Seahawks, he was on a lot
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: of the road trips. We would we would hang out
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: at times, not like we're good buddies or anything like that,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: but the media corps we would go to, we would
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: go to dinner and hang out. I've I've known of
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: his frustration for a while.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: It's not one.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Let's just say this because I think this is what's
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: getting lost in the mix somewhere. I think people are
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: saying Matt Calkins wanted to write a story that says
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: girls or boys should not play with girls in sports?
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  Speaker 5: What have you?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: And he wanted to write that. They wouldn't let him
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: write it, so we quit. That's not the story. The
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: story is he wanted to write something like that and
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: went and did a whole thing with the man on
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: the street, talking to our women on the street, girls
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: in the street. He went and talked to people before
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: the Fever game here against the Storm, put this story
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: together and they said no, And that was the final straw.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: There were other ones along the way that had nothing
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: to do with that particular topic. So it's not Matt
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Hawkins's anti trans or anti He wanted to write a
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: column that was the final one they said no to.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: So do not lose that in the sight lines of
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: what we're talking about pattern by the newspaper where they
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: do not want him to write certain stories. And Danny
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: O'Neil i mentioned this earlier, is going to join us
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: tomorrow work for the Times. His wife was on the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: editorial board for the Times, and frankly, I'll be honest,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: just let's just throw the cards on the table. She
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: was on the editorial board when things went south for
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: us KJR and the Sale Times.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: Ye.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: So it'll be a fun conversation with Danny tomorrow too
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: because he don hold back.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: He's very open.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: So we'll get into it. We'll get into all that
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: with Danny tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it. I'm more
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: looking forward to the next segment.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: Yes, let's let's get a little palate cless.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Randon Fundston Fantasy Can we all agree, if your name
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: is not Dave Softy Maller, that fantasy football is fun.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: He's the only person American that hates it. Him and
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: the guy that used to be on ten to one.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: Well, there's another pattern we're sensing.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Well, Funston your questions four nine, four to five one next.
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  Speaker 2: Will make this quick because we got funds and standing
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: by uh Seahawks in Nashville. Trevon Diggs is there with
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: them all. Former All Pro cornerback signed yesterday, spoke yesterday.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: He's a Seahawks. No word on Terry and Arnold front
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: office sports reporting the Seahawks sale is progressing nicely. Should
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: be confirmed soon. NFL owners are all okay with it now.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: That's a surprise me to vass signed of contract. Jade Higgins, Houston,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Texans wide receivers out for the season, torn acl and
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: shout out to Soundview Little League down in teet Down
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  Speaker 2: to come to the two five to three. Getting a
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• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: World Series, knocked off Phoenix City out of Alabama to nothing.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: They'll play tomorrow, assuming whether cooperates. Ladies and gentlemen, we've
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: waited way too long. Let's get to it on this
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon. This is a tradition that will continue through
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: about week fourteen fifteen or sixteen of the NFL season.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: It's the unofficial start of the weekend right now. You
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: heard the voice in a second, and mister Funston, you
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: know it's that time. Fantasy football is around the corner.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Drafts are happening, maybe some as soon as this weekend.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Draft orders are being determined, Mock drafts are taking place
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: on cell phones, on apps, on computers. And that's why
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: we got our guy from the Athletic. He makes sure
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: that Jake Seey and the rest of the crew are
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: doing their jobs. It is the man, the myth, the
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: legend right in Funston. Hello, sir, how is it going.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you I'm feeling. I'm feeling this feels like
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: the zenith of the of the pre season run up.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Like this week has just been been crazy. You know
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have another crazy week next week as drafts
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: get ready. But we're just like we're pumping out content
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: and they have a meetings NonStop. It just it feels
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: feels like it's now time.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I said it last week, I'll say it again, I'll
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: say it all season. The Athletic. There there's this If
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: you play fantasy football and you don't subscribe to the athletic.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: You're a fool because if nothing, I would encourage you
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: always to subscribe great stuff, great content on there. But
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: this is the time because everything you need for your
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: draft is right there. And the fact that you can
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: customize the rankings to your team via the Excel spreadsheet.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: It's so easy. I figured it out without asking my
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: wife or my son to help me figure out the
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: Excel spreadsheet. That's how easy it is. It's all there
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: for you, Jason and brand do not let me forget.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: I won't because I'm staring at it. I've got the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: greatest text ever that came in.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not even allowed to look at that.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 10: You're not even allowed to.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Look at the text line. But I the greatest that
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: will wrap things up with. And here's the crazy thing,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: not even from Keith Miller, who normally has the best
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: text usually gets the gold and Steven from Sultan. The
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: answer is yes, if Steven, if you're listening so, but
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a second. I got a
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: bunch of texts. We'll get to those in a second.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: People are going through like I know, my kid last
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I don't have my draft order for both leagues I'm
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: in is determined day off, which I kind of hate.
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  Speaker 5: Oh I'm wait, actually I've started another early ten days
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: before I even get to that.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Actually, I'm sorry. One of the leagues, the league where
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: you guys know many of the people in one of
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: my leagues, they're regulars here on the show at we
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: stay hosted a show once. They will have that determined
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: a week from Sunday, but after the other one is
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: day off. So my kid last night got a second
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: order for drafts, so he's got both. He's just like
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: going crazy and I'm kind of like, man, I'm jealous.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: I'm really jealous. I'll ask you this. He got the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: number one pick and I know and he told me
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: who he's going with. It's a running back. And we
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: talked about this last week kind of with our top
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: ten guys. And it's weird because I'm looking at this
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: thing now, I think your ranks that did Jake update
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: some of the rankings, if they changed.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: A little bit on the updates every day, I mean, okay,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: crazy tweaking and yeah, there's it's like soft tissue injury
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: season right now. And so like everybody's coming out of
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: these practices like week to week, you know, so he's
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: kind of like he's kind of adjusting for that, trying
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: to figure out and you know, figure out what it
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: all means.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. Let's let's let's bang through
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: the run. I want to go through running backs today
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: and and kind of do a little bit of a
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: deep dive there, and then we'll get to your phone
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: call or your your text as well. I think there
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: if there's a phone call, we might grab one of
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: those as well. Uh so, Steven, hold on if I
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: see you there. Okay, let's let's get this running backs.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: We went through a little bit last week. I don't
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: know things have changed. Uh give me your number one
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: running back for in general terms, every week's got a
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: different scoring. But your number one running back? Who is it?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: And why?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: It's Jamior Gibbs, you know, and I think you were
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: talking about your son got.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: The number one pick. That's what we went with. That's
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: went with.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: I think it's the right choice. We just we're doing
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: we're doing a roundtable series this week. We have a
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: like having experts weighing in a bunch of questions. One
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: of them was Jamiir Gibbs versus Bijon Robinson and what
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: is your reasoning for who you're taking, And five of
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: us took Gibbs and two took Robinson. But I think
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: the idea that David Montgomery is gone, this is probably
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: gonna be the biggest workload of Gibbs's career. Detroit's really
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: consolidated their offense. A lot of the guys like Khalif
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: Raymond and Montgomery and some of these other guys they've
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: kind of let go and they're sort of circling the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: wagons with the second contract guys like Gibbs. So I
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: think you know the plan is to lean into him heavily.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: If you look at Gibbs, he's averaged over a fantasy point.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: He's at like one point one five PPR points per
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: touch last season. He was one point two the year before.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: Each of those marks is significantly better than Robinson's over
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: the last two years. So if you're gonna give him
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: more volume, and he already beat Robinson last year with
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: less volume.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: I think you gotta go. Gibbs. Robinson, McCaffrey, Taylor are two,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: three and four right now in the rankings on the
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Athletic Would you agree with those rankings? And how close
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: are those three guys two, three, and four.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I think any one of them can actually be
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: the RB one and Johnson. Taylor was great with Daniel
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: Jones last year and he's he's a touchdown machine, and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: both of these guys. The reason why they're falling behind
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: is because there's just some concern Taylor's had health issues
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: in the past, but it's been more about Daniel Jones
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: last year. Things kind of tailed off when Jones went out. McCaffrey,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: we know the deal with him. I mean, he's he
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: was awesome last year, but he also was like over
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: four hundred touches. History of a thirty year old running back,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: especially coming off that kind of work, like the history
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: of any running back coming off four hundred touches, is
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: not great the following season, but you know, San Francisco's
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: not hiding what they're doing. He is still the epicenter
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: of that offense and the volume is going to be massive.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: It's just kind of like he drops to three four
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: at running back because you're holding your breath all year
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: All right, So let's go next. How far is a
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: drop off between Jonathan Taylor and that next wave, which
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: would be James Cook, Devon h Chan, Chase Brown, Derrick Henry,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, and Kenneth Walker.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Cook is definitively and I'd almost put
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: him as a tier by himself after those those first four,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: and I put Gibbson Robinson as a tier of their
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: you know, at number one, and then Taylor McCaffrey two,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: and I put Cook by himself at five as a
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: third tier because they're talking about using him more in
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: the passing game. They just he just gets served up
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: for touchdown opportunities in that offense when Josh Allen doesn't
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: take him. But it's worked out well for both of
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: those two the last few years. So the plan is
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: for them to lean more in the Cook this year.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: And like I said, with the with the passing game,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: so I really like that. I will caution on h
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: Chan that Tua was great at throwing the ball to
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: running backs out of the backfield, and Willis it's been
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: a small sample size, but hasn't shown that kind of
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: like touch.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: He's he's still.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: Kind of a raw ability guy, but he's by all accounts,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: had a good camp. I just don't know if he's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: going to be able to serve up the eighty ninety
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: catches like we've seen him have the last couple of years.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: And there's I just saw something where a bottom five
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: offense has delivered a top ten running back just twice
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: in the last five years. That was Breisee Hall and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry when he was with the Titans. So not
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: a great history. And I think we all expect Miami
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: is going to be a bottom five.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Well they got they got their offensive line today and
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: a joint practice just got annihilated, like just the Giants
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: just destroke. The whole story coming out of that joint
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: practice was the fact that the Miami offensive line was
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: just getting killed.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: And Ian can you tell him? Can you name me
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: a wide receiver or tight end on the team?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: No, no, okay, No, all I know is Malik Willis.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: I mean that's seriously like, it's Malik Willis, right, I
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: mean that's it's I mean, hell, I'm looking through here.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are always very high on wide receivers.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 10: Let me go down.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Let's the first wide receiver I get to Miami. I'm
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: still at thirty five.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably outside the top fifty. It's it is
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: Caleb Douglass or Malik Washington, there's.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, it's just it's Jalen Tolbert, Is
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: it Jalen Tolbert.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, Tolbert's there as well. I mean it's a hodgepodge of.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, if you're playing Miami, which is basically
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: tanking for the number one pick, I mean you're, yeah,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: he would scare me. What about what about our buddy,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl MVP?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, he's ever really been a bell cow.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: He's clearly got the opportunity there. The thing I really
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: like is if you look back to Kansas City last
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: year at Cream hunt As, they have a checko that
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: they kind of were, you know, they were throwing people
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: out there. It was a mixed bag at running back,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: but the yards before contact numbers for all the Casey
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: running backs were really good, which tells you the offensive
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: line's doing their job. They're they're you know, creating some opportunities,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: creating some cushion for the running back to get going.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: And I love the way Kenneth Walker finished the year.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: It felt like he learned to just just go and
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: not not dance around. If he carries that over, he's
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: He's kind of like back end of the RB one class,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: and I think he can deliver that as long as
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: he stays healthy. I think the environment is going to
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: be good for him.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: Though.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: For those of us that liked Ashton Gent last year
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: at least on draft day, and then didn't like him
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: as year went on, what do you say about that?
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: What about him?
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I get it with him, like, but I'm
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: always like the naysayer because it feels like every year
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: the refrain is, Oh, the Raiders are gonna better this year,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: They're gonna be better this year. And then it was like, oh,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: Pete Carroll's there and Geno Smith's there, it's going to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: elevate them, and they were terrible. And so now we're
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: saying that first time head coach, although we all like
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak, but he's a first time head coach, and
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: it's the you know, it's the it's Kirk Cousins and
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: a first year quarterback who you know like that. I would.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: It's just pumped the brakes a little bit because I've
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: seen Gent go as high as five overall in drafts.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: People just are really buying it.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: I think he's really good, but I just don't know
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: that it's a slam dunk to this offensive environment is
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: just gonna be like leaps and bounds better than it's been.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: I think it will be ultimately. I trust that they're
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: going in the right direction. But you know, Rome's not
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: built in a day, and I think it's this more
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: baby steps than than giants.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: Is that would that goes with Jeremiah Love to playing
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: for a bad Arizona team.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know he's now got the high ankle
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: spring and it's if he's gonna be ready for a
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: week one and then you've got Tyler Aljier, You've got
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Trey Bnson, you got James Connor. So if you know
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: you're gonna be a bad team, if you know you
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: want arch Manning, if you know that you want Jeremiah
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: Love to be part of that future, then are you
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: gonna rush him back when you're not certain that his
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: ankle is really one hundred percent? Are you gonna slow
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: play him? I think that's what's gonna happen. I think
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: we're gonna see I think we're gonna see a slow
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: play Jeremiah Love out of the gates. I think he's
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: really good, But that is a tough offensive environment and
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: they don't really have a lot of motivation to give
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: him a ton of carrieres and what we expect to
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: be sort of a sort of a throwaway season, give.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Us a give us a couple later, like you know,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: maybe it's a third, fourth round, so later draft picks
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: that you would go with as a running back.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm you.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: Know, it's so funny, like we talk about like sleepers
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: and stuff, and like I just have a hard time
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: finding sleepers. But I will say I'm kind of like
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: I like Jadarian Price. I want to get him back in.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: I think he's got a really good opportunity because he's
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: gonna bring so much more.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: Juice nothing behind and there's nothing behind him, like if
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: we're being.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: Behind, like okay, we got a bunch of hard hat
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: type running backs behind him. He's he's a true kind
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: of sports car and so like, as soon as he's
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: good to go, I think he's a little bit of
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: a of a of a deal right now because he's
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: going in the mid twenties and I think he could
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: be a top twenty running back. I would play etn
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: in there.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: It looks like Alvin Kamar is going to miss a
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: month of nothing else.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: The thing about New Orleans is Keller Moore runs like
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: one of the fastest paced offenses in the league. They
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: get a ton of plays, they keep the pace going.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: So without any real competition there for a while, ETN
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: could be like, could be really good.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: So he is like a you know, third round guy
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: that you can get. I think you can do really
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: well with All right, let's do this again. Go download
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: the XL sheet for running back. That's a good that's
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: a good primer to get going. Steven Insultan decided to
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: call in. He texted earlier, Can I call in, dude,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: you're a regular? Hell yeah, you can call in Funston
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Steven from Sultan, one of our regulars. Fire away.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad football seasons back.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: I'm done with those Mariners. They just lost, by the
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: way for people wondering, so it's games over things lost.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: I know we're all shocked on cREL stunt, Yes exactly,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: We're all stunted, all right, So am I chiefer league.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: I can keep three players up to three out of
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: the East seven if I want to, I give up
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: for a second third round picks.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: Byah blah blah, Josh Jacobs, Tied Walker, Ted McMillan. I'm
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: on save Brown, Tyler, Warren dart or Love.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: I can keep up to three only Well, you gotta
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: keep Love.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 9: I mean it is only a four man bench too.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta keep Love. I think he's still got
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: to keep Amon Ross, Saint Brown. He's he should have
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: a you know, at least three four really good years
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: left in him. So it's Walker or it's Tat McMillan.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: I'd probably break it down like if you can. If
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: if it's a like a three wide receiver slot kind
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: of league plus a flex, I'm probably gonna keep tet.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: If it's two starting wide receivers and two starting running
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: backs and then your flex, I might I'd.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Probably go Kenneth Walker love it. Steven, we will, we
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: will hear from you all year. We love that. All right?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: I got a ton of text. I want to get
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: to one more phone call real quick.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: This is bo Bo.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: How old are you?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: Bo?
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Love it? And you're playing fantasy? That's that's golden bow?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: What's your question for mister Funston? There? So I'm starting like.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: A fantasy football league with nine people in it, Like
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: what's the like like what's the like, Is that like
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: a good number for a fantasy football league? Well, I hope,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: I hope that means nine other people including yourself.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: To make ten, right, No, nine nine people totally?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: You need more, Yeah, you need one more because you
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: want to you want to have you know, the ability
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: to play someone each week. If you do that, then
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: someone's going to be left out each week.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Because it's an odd number.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: There are ways around that you could play a You
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: could play it as you know in leagues where you
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: everybody you compare scores and the upper half gets a win,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: in the lower half in scores gets a loss. But
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: if you can get to ten, I think it's a
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: great especially as a startup league. It's a little easier
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: to go out and find some people on the waiver
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: wire if you if you got to go replace some
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: of your players, there's a little bit more there. So
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: I think ten's a great number to start. You could
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: even you could even you know, look up maybe trim
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: the fat there and drop who you think might be
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: the biggest deadbeat owner, and then you can go to
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: eight and that's even that's even better startup. So but
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: I think you're like right in the ballpark. Just get
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: that number to even.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a great question, bo, that's a good question.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: You got to call again.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: All right, wait, didn't you have another question?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: If I have like the fix kicks wor should I
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: dress a running back or a wide receiver?
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: First? Yeah, you're probably looking at You're probably looking at
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: a wide receiver because Jamiir Gibbs and Bjon Robinson will
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: probably be gone. I think the next the next group
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: you might, you might. You know, if you like Seattle,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: js N is not a bad pick at number five,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: Puka Nikua Jamar Chase. I love five as because there's
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of good options you could even
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: if it's if you know, if it's a if the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: format favors running backs a little bit, you can even
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: consider Christian McCaffrey at that spot as well.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: So I think five is a great spot to be
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: sitting in. Love A great job, boll All right, thank
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: you very much. Let's get a couple of texts for
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: four five one. Here we go, fun, this is the one.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: I'm curious what this is about, Brandon. Your thoughts from
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: the two five to three year thoughts on death slash
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: chopper leagues, first time doing one this year, looking forward
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: to it. What are those and what are your thoughts?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: I was, I was, I was almost in one this.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: I got back to my friend who tried to get
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: me and it's basically GIA team league. So I wanted
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: to try it because it's kind of a new, a
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: new fad right now, and there's various formats, but the
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: one I was going to join was an eighteen team one.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: So if you literally were the lowest scoring team in
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: week one, you were done.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have a one and done season like a
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: sur like a Survivor fantasy.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so what happens is the lowest scoring team gets
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: chopped and then all those players go onto the waiver
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: why for the next week, and so it's a free fall.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: So it's pretty high stakes. But I kind of like
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: the setup where you maybe have twelve teams and you
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: let the first month everybody plays, and then at that
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: point the last place team each following week gets cut.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: So you go for a few weeks. Okay, you at
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: least get like the first month of the season to play.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: Wow, and if you're really if you're bad at that point,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: then most people would be like, okay, yeah, put me
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: out of my misery.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: Four pick twelve man PPR. If I go receiver first
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm not liking the running backs that I'm gonna
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: cut coming back and seem to be reaching the film
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: my running back room, I'm crazy. They want to take
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: either Jonathan Taylor or James Cook at the four spot.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: So he's got the fourth pick twelve man PPR. Could
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: he take Taylor or Cook at the four spot?
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: He could? It's just PPR. And again, if it's three
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: wide receivers and a flex where you can play with
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: I get this hammered to me all the time by
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: one of my ex one of our analysts, who says,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: the math, the math just works out that you really
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: want to pound wide receivers if you have the ability
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: to start four wide receivers or more and you're starting
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: lineup because the ceiling week to week of receivers is
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: better than running backs, and if you can get more
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: like good, great serviceable receivers in there, you have a
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: higher chance of hitting on at least one of those.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: So so it's not ideal, but look at Jonathan Taylor,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: as I mentioned, you catch it, you catch it, You
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: know he can catch a wave.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: And be the number one running back there. Trade question,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Trade Donald and Michael Wilson for Metcalf and Traravis. Etm
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: is a super flex PPR tight end Premium league. I
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: don't have a problem with that at all.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: I like Sam Donald, but he's gonna be like you're
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: he's going at like quarterback twenty one twenty two.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: I know, like I'm assuming you're not.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: You have somebody else you can replace them with you,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: so you still have two decent quarterbacks. If that's the case,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: then yeah, I just talked about etn and and the
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: way he's set up in with the Saints, So I
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: wouldn't mind that.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: One at all. Who's number one picked?
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: You?
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: I want to run back? Let's see all so this
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: guy's actually asking I think he's got the second overall
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: pick if Gibbs goes number one overall, and you're good
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: with Gibbs going number one overall? Right, yep? Who goes
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: number two? Yeah? It's bjon Okay, it's Bjeon.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: There they just kind of are standing out, and you know,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: I just talked about the guy that always preaches the
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: format that you play and going wide receiver. If you
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: can start four of them. He still said he would
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: take Gibbs and Robinson one and two. And I'm in
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: the same boat, Like, no matter what league, I mean,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: unless it's Super Flex, in which I had the number
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: one pick and took Josh Allen, I think a lot
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: of people would do that. If it's not a super
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: Flex league, Gibbs and Robinson are probably going one to
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: two in most of your leagues.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: Here's one of those. I like these ones. These are
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: kind of fun, the ones that the auction leagues a
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: little bit. I kind of like those along the way
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: keeper question Rice for six dollars or or London for nine,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: I would go London.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: Rice has been a little bit of a manufactured product
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: of Casey, you know, and when they started running, you know,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: when they started restricting Mahomes's ability to go deep, they
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: just leaned into Rice and Kelsey, and like, that's kind
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: of where been what Rice has been doing.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: But like Drake, London's just a stud.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: And I hope that Michael Pennix kind of gets a
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: chance to ultimately get back into that number one spot.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: Because I do like him a lot better with Pennix
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: than I do with Tua all right last one. See
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: du oh god, Okay, here we go. Dynasty League Keeper
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: question two hundred dollars salary cap. Christian Watson ten, Tat
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: McMillan thirteen, Roam A. Duneesday thirteen, Denzel Boston three, Tory
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: Horton twelve. Who would you keep full point PPR? For
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: just one?
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep Roam? Okay, and yeah, Christian Watson. You know,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: he's never had more than forty one catches or six
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: hundred receiving yards, and he's going like wide receiver twenty
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: eight this year. And I'm like, that guy's a roller coaster.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: He's never healthy. When he is, he's a big player
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: or bust. Often he's just a tough one. And that's
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: the that's the most draft capital you'd have to spend
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: to keep. I just think he's probably last on that list,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: but I would I would go with Rome. I think
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: Rome's gonna have a really good year this year.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: Ran and Scott still just read part of this. Hearing
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: the Funston intro is awesome. It also gave me a
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: mild panic attack that I didn't text in time. In
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: times subconscious reaction, We've.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: Got Pavlovs fantasy football players.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: Out here, guys losing their mind right now? Oh not
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: quite there yet. Oh you got, I do have a
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: couple of funny ones. Oh, actually talking about charmonay real quick?
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 9: What what what? What? What do you do there?
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: He's he's you know, I think the the idea that
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: he's doing anything meaningful in the first half of the year,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: I think is a stretch is a stretch. So I've
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: thrown him on the end. I've been in drafts where
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: it kind of got towards the end. I've already had
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: like four running backs that I've drafted, but I don't
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: love it.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: I just throw him on on the end.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: I you know, the I think the biggest thing you'd
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: hope for is he's looking somewhat like he used to
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: buy the fantasy playoff time, and you're able to You're
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: able to stash him and not have to you know,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: and maybe you have a good year with injuries where
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: you're not having to look for roster spots to clear
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: for the waiver wire pickups and you can kind of
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: just hold him.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not going out of my way
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: in drafts.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: He's a nice He's nice, like, oh, Yeah, he's still
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: there and and I could use a little bit of
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: adepts and.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: Hopefully, you know, you get a little bit sooner return
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: than you expect. Here's the best text of all time,
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  Speaker 2: Ready to go. I've been waiting for this two oh
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: six full point PPR. Need one of the following Tequila,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: marijuana or Georgetown beer.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: I know where my bread is, butter, let's go with
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: Georgetown all the way. Oh boy, that's a tough one though.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: Man, that's a really tough one.
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  Speaker 4: Can we just I might make some trades.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: I can bring all three of those together.
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  Speaker 2: God, that's a good one. Oh my god. Mirror IPA
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  Speaker 2: see everybody. And so I'll go Georgetown beer too. I
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: would say tequila, but if it was Gin, I might
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: go jin I don't know, but not over Georgetown beer.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: There are yes funds and tell people wout be Athletic.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got so much.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Stuff going on there.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: As you mentioned Jake seely, his rankings, his projections, which
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: you can play around with customized to your own league
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: and in your own ideas for what you think certain
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: players are gonna do. But we also have a roundtable
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: series this week, go and position by a position, asking
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: the experts a bunch of you know, key draft questions
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: and getting their responses. That's always been popular, but something
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: a bunch of new stuff every day, So come check
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: it out.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: Let's go talk receivers next week. My friend sounds good,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: have a good one, as Brandon funds an unofficial start
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: of the weekend, we'll check the rest of the text
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  Speaker 2: line coming up next.
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  Speaker 9: Jonathan Kelly here in Minnesota, Huge Seahawks Facts, Go twelves.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 9: What I want to know is why are we not
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 9: believing in Josh Job. The guy is a great corner.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 9: I think he's really under rated. You look at his numbers,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 9: he's a top eighteen corner. When you look at his
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 9: pass breakups, his touchdown is allowed. The guy is a dog.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 9: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think we use the term great too often.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: That's just my humble opinion.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: Are you the one of the greats kind of used
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: for that word?
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: I just we used like. I don't know if Josh
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: Job is a great corner. I don't like Devin Witherspoon
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: is a great corner. Great corners go to Pro Bowls
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: and are all pros. That's good, But I think he's
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: I do. I would agree partly with what that gentleman said.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: I think that Joe, I think they believe enough in
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: him where they gave him the contract probably based a
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: little bit on the contract, like what it was gonna
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: cost versus what was gonna cost to keep Wollen. They
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: made a decision of Job over Wollen. Again, it's part
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: partially based on contract.
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  Speaker 5: M h.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think sometimes Joe, Joe, I like, job, jail my helf.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna be We talked about this a lot
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: years ago when they when the offensive line, when the
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl started getting broken up, or even after the
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: five season. You're not going to be great across at
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: every single position. It's impossible, right, Like you're not going
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: to have twenty two Pro Bowlers on your team or
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: twenty two All pros. So there's going to be you know,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: I think Hugh says it really well, you know what's
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: the weakest link on the seahawks great defense. It's probably Joe.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: That's not doesn't mean he's a bad football player.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 5: No, right, well, and I mean you look at the
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 5: depth that they need Sue with that position, he's not
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: someone that.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: You're like, well, we had a ton of text on
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: the earlier topic about Matt Collkin stepping down. This is
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: the problem though, see like the headline and awful announcing
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: Sale Times columnist resigns after paper scraped Sophie Cunningham piece.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: That's inaccurate. It is, there's multiple pieces. It wasn't even Sophie.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: It was more the bigger, larger issue than he was
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: just trying to present. I think, I I I think he's.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 6: Taking a stand ford journalism to be honest.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what he's doing. Yeah, yeah, let's see six.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: It's why you guys won't discuss the WNBA too sensitive
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: for the left. I'll address that real quick. I don't
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: look at the WNBA's left or right. I think the
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: WNBA is kind of turning into a little bit of
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: a joke right now. The Caitlin Clark hate by not
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: just players, but my media that full time, like full
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: time WNBA media. Yeah, I think it's a little sketchy,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: you know. I think like Olivia Miles is getting a
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: lot more love for MVP than Caitlin Clark, and Caitlin
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: Clark's numbers just doesn't even they don't compare like way better.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter because aj Wilson's the best player
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: in the league and she's gonna wait for the fifth
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: time and should. But we're more worried about who's gonna
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: finish second or third in the voting for the m
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: v P. We're worried about little things in the.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: W n b A.
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  Speaker 6: You know, this is just like that loud minority of
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 6: people that we're hearing.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 5: When I say minority, I'm talking about a small amount
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: of people, not any specific race or gender.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: What world do we have to what world do we
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: have to live in? And we have to do that now.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 8: I just know that I have to.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: I know you do, because if I use that word,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: people are making assumptions. But when we hear the loud,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: vocal minority of people louder than the majority, because the
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: majority just wants to enjoy the game and enjoy the
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 5: great players that we have and that we can watch.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 6: And you don't have to be a w NBA fan either.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 6: You can enjoy the greatness that we see.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: When all of a sudden, everyone has to tune in
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: to see Caitlin Clark the I'm.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: Going to I'm going to summarize the text line. Okay,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: there's about two thirds of it is about two thirds
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: of it is one of the other of these two things.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying which is the majority. Okay, everything
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: is Donald Trump's fault and or I love Donald Trump.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: Which is the world we live in right now?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Is we we live in a world now where we
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: have listen if we want to be honest about him,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: because everyone's trying to guess, like if we want to
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: be honest. It's a very divisive white house. It's the
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: most it's the most divisive white house we've had since
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: we had the same White House.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 6: In twenty sixteen.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, but what we have become in this country
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: is we don't have an ability to have discussion anymore.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: And that's unfortunate. We should be able to have discussion
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: with newspapers, if the state whatever you want to call it,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: right and opinions we have those, we have that ability.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: I will say, you know, I being muted in man
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: so forth is is a frustrating thing. If you're paid
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: to give an opinion, like we're paid to give opinions,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: I pick and choose what opinions I want to express
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: on a daily basis. The only time I've been muted,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: so to speak, has been anything having to do with
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: Washington the University of partners because they're a partner for us,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: and and you know, we have to protect that partnership
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: with the University of Washington.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: I was on the other side of the lake Man
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: partners with both of the two, the two biggest major.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: To Yes, you've got to be you're a partner, You're
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: partners with them. I can't say what I want to
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: say about the athletic director, for example, at Washington, I
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: have to mute myself and be careful with what I
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: say about different things. I'll leave that to others, but
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: also their arrival or where I guess. I'd say it's
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: a fading rivalry now, but you know, I can't really
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: be like that's why Soft get the applicup. I can't.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: It's not a fair fight. I can't say what I
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: want to say. Well, but take the I can't do that.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: I've tried in the past. Puck and I tried in
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: the past, and we got and we joke about the
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: Stanford pregame show, and after that I said, I'm done.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: It's done with the rivalry. On the air at least,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: so I get that. But if you're a newspaper an
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: objective medium, so to speak, you're not. But if you know,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: you should be able to be telling and having opinions
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: from both sides of whatever the issue in the topic is.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking politics. I'm talking about writer left of
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: the aisle and in the legislature. I'm just talking about
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: you should have opinions on everything, would you say, and
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: have that ability and have the ability to counter those
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: those as well.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what your friend, who is a longtime journalist,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: had said. And I got that from a longtime journalist
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: that I am friends with who said the same exact thing.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: Run that article and run a counter article.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's just simple. For those who missed earlier.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: A guy that I worked with for a long time
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: in another life in another city say, and he's a
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: former writer, he's a former columnist. He says, the tenet
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: of journalism is to tell all sides, print the column
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: and do another one. I'm telling the other side if
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: you like, let readers draw their own conclusions. One hundred percent. Yes,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: that's what it should be. And that's what I heard
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: journalists This is also a newspaper that shut out all
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: their writers from coming on our radio station about a
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: decade ago, now a little a little less than that,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: about eight or nine years ago, they shut everybody out
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: because they didn't like stuff that was on our air.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: So what do you expect at the Seattle Times. We'll
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: take a break. Softy, Well, we got to talk, as
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: I might tee him up for this, because we're not
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: partners with the baseball team. You wouldn't believe their postgame
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: show today on TV.
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  Speaker 6: It's not cooking close Hopey.
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  Speaker 10: Next, all right, real quick, before Softy joined us.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow we'll be at Georgetown Brewing twelve to three the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: release of the Mayor IPA twenty twenty six. Every cent,
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  Speaker 2: every dollar, everything from every pint and growlur of the
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: Mayor IPA arting tomorrow that is purchase at Georgetown goes
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: to Helensky's Hope Jordan Morris Foundation, Avery Huffman dip G Foundation.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: Not a portion of the proceeds. They donate everything, so
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  Speaker 2: it goes. It gets tapped tomorrow at Georgetown. Last year
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: it ran out in about eight days. It's limited release.
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  Speaker 2: It's an award winning beer. Can I put an order
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  Speaker 2: in now for a growler. Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think it's fair. Yeah, And Jess has complained
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 11: about the same thing to me before. What is that
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 11: that we work here and we have to get in
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  Speaker 11: line like every other schmuck for a growler. I think
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 11: it's ridiculous. There should be some there should be some benefit.
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  Speaker 2: There's no line.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 11: There should be some benefit to having to talk to
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 11: you every day. And Sita, I get a growler. You
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 11: don't like beer. I want one just to help the chair.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 11: It's not a matter if I if I like it
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  Speaker 11: or not. I don't dislike beer. I just don't prefer beer.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 11: You prefer the other.
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  Speaker 2: I'm more of a hard liquor guy. We had a
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: great question from Brandon Funston earlier.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, what was that? It was you?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's a PPR keeper league. Okay, So you
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: can choose one of these three, right, and it's not
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: a running back Tequila yes, marijuana yes, or Georgetown beer.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 11: I'll throw out marijuana because my problem with marijuana is
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 11: if I edibles or smoke or whatever, I lose all inhibitions.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: When it comes to food, I mean I can I
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: can eat fifteen pizzas. You're gonna go to one of
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: your five restaurants producers and go bananas.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 11: Dude, it's unbelievable. I mean that that little piece of
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 11: your brain that turns on and says you're full. Yeah,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 11: just goes on strike.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: Brad donn okay, Brad down a twin Peaks is saying, Hey,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: gets Stone to come down here and see any wings
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: you can eat.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 11: You know what I'm talking about, Like the whole, the
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 11: whole munchy thing is a problem for you. Oh dude,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 11: it's un I don't even know where the food goes,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 11: like it ends up in my foot.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unbelievable. So you'll go, so I will tell it.
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  Speaker 4: That's the key.
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  Speaker 2: Look is that we can have a couple of margaritas
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: or whatever blah blah blah. But no I don't. I
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: don't dislike beer. I just prefer the other stuff, you
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: know what. Come on buy tomorrow.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 11: Can I have a growler? Just put an order in
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 11: for me, grab one, bring it to the office. Okay,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 11: the hell, we're gonna be a Jimmy's. Bring it by Jimmies.
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  Speaker 4: We'll enjoy it.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: There.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not driving anywhere tomorrow. Okay, good for you,
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: Good for you. What time will you be there tomorrow?
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: I will be there at noon at noon? All right,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: so I will. I'm on the golf course tomorrow at eight. Yes,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: I'll be driving from the north end, so you'll be
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: there from noon to what noon until three? Well, I'll
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: be there. Are you doing the.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: Show tomorrow from there?
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: Okay? Got it? All right?
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 9: So I will.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 11: I will swing by on the way to Jimmy's. That
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 11: actually works out. Just have a growler waiting for me.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 6: You figuring it out?
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: Can I make a donation to the cause right now?
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: They're twelve dollars?
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: Well, can I just give you money?
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, just do it there tomorrow. No, I mean, just
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: do it. If only my wife had that same reaction. No,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: you can't. No, you cannot buy me a brand new car.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: I do not want that. Hey, I do not care.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna? Did you know there's a slide in
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee in the stadium?
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 6: I did know that.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 11: Now you're telling me that the postgame show they showed
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 11: the hyphen going down it Brad think Brad? That was
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 11: their first seven under the game show. Yeah, that's not
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 11: that's not good.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: Timing. Now, Dan Wilson was on the post game, maybe
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: he was on the slide. Shove him down the slide?
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: What is Dan?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: How is your slide ride? A tough one? Tough one tonight? Like,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know, have we heard his post game today?
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: We're talking about have we heard his postgame?
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: Did he say tough one? I know, I don't know.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: He's been coached out.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 11: I'm sure you know. He needs to really just embrace
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 11: that at this point. Yeah, like the whole fifty four
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 11: percent thing. I think the Maritors should embrace that when
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 11: they lose the next day, all I don't know, popcorn,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 11: hot dogs, whatever you want, fifty four percent off, blah
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 11: blah blah. They'll never do that. Dan Wilson needs to
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 11: come out and maybe he saves it for a win.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 11: So it's a lighthearted thing and just say tough one tonight,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 11: tough one tonight, but hey we battle back by win.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: Just have some fun.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 11: Nobody over there, and I understand why because they're losing,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 11: but nobody's ever having fun.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: Nobody is having fun. I did well. Good for him,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: he went down.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 11: Maybe he should be a pinchit or for us instead
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 11: of a guy hitting a buck fifty six. How about
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 11: that for an idea? They pinch it cat Rowley for Parita.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 11: I know cal Raley literally is the worst hitter in baseball.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 11: Did you guys see them ob lately? Did you see
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 11: the difference between the second worst hitter and baseball and him?
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: It's like fifty points. Well that's insane. Here's the problem.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: If if he ends up having a qualifying number of appens,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: which he will this week by the way, by the
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: end of the Cup Series he will, so you should
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: probably shut him down tomorrow because he's going to have
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: historically the worst batting average in Major League history.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 11: You think they'll shut him down to avoid that. That's
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 11: a hell of a call. Wow, conspiracy. Otherwise, rally out
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 11: for the year with week that's that's in the history
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 11: of baseball. Like that's not going away.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, not at all.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: That's a great call, dude.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that. Man.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 11: The first conspiracy is that they fire Wilson after the
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 11: top fifty thing that didn't happen, And now you're thinking
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 11: they're going to fire him or shut down cow.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think that.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 11: The minute he gets qualified and then he won't be
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 11: qualified because he'll miss.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: The rest of it. If you were Cal, would you
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: want to just say no, I'd want to play. I'd
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: want to play, all right, I want to play? I
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: think I don't. I think i'd tap out.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: You want to be on that list?
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 11: That's a great baseball reference type spatting average. Ever, know
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 11: you know what I will I will ask Boone about that.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 11: He's on the show at four o'clock today. If he
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 11: were Cal, would he want to shut her down to
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 11: avoid it's hurt?
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 9: In what?
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 11: What year was it that Ted Williams at four or
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 11: five or four oh six or whatever in the nineteen forties?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know he could have he could have
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 4: he could have.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 11: Sat out and protected his three nine and he played,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 11: he played, and he went like six for eight whatever. Right, So,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 11: Brett Boone, if he were in cal Rawley's shoes, what
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 11: he want to tap out right now and shut her
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 11: down to avoid being qualified?
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: And you're telling me he'll qualified this weekend? I think
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: this weekend? Yes, because he was three.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 11: He was three plate appearances away going into last night's game,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 11: and he had one PA. No, no, nope, he had
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 11: won PA with the walk. Yeah, right, So I think
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 11: he's still short, but he will be this weekend. All right,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 11: what are you doing today?
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: What's today? Thursday?
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: Hawkins is on today?
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 8: You know he quit?
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 4: You hear that I got Hawkins quit.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: I might have texted Tim Booth and asked me for him. Well,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: he told me.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 11: Matt said he'd had enough of Ryan Divish and he
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 11: just couldn't stand it. So about time want it out.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: So he's done.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 11: He'll join us at six o'clock tonight and talk about
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 11: I mean he can now come on the radio show.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 11: Yes he can, and we're going to talk about that too.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 11: By the way, his thoughts on being banned from kJ
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 11: R for all these years. Jerry, another former Times employee, Brewer,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 11: he'll join us. I'm sure he'll share some thoughts on
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 11: this thing with Matt and then Brett Boone at four
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 11: o'clock today.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 5: Yip.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: All right, for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably in forness,
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  Speaker 2: this is paddle day, saying so long everyone,