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Seeds of Revolution: From corporate control to abundant food forests · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  So welcome back to the Nurses Report.
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  This podcast is with Nurse Gail McCray myself.
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  Uh in December of 2025, I have been noticing an increase in farmers and their protesting acround the world regarding food shortage issues and uh tyrannical government uh funding issues, uh issues involving forced uh murder of the animals that are being humanely raised.
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  Uh across the world, especially in countries like uh around Europe right now, there are farmers protesting, burning hay bills, uh clashing with the police and government mandated against government mandated uh slaughter of their farming animals and destruction of their property.
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  So, in light of all of that, not only is this happening around Europe and Canada, but how does that impact the United States?
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  And I wanted to have this conversation to try to unpack how can we start to have a more uh protective conversation around what's gonna happen when these kinds of uh of government overreach and impacts come down in the United States.
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  Has it already happened and how can we protect our families from these kinds of situations?
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  So, in light of that, I wanted to invite my friend Jim Gale to have this conversation about uh really looking out for our communities, our families and our health for the short term and the long term, because we all know that wellness comes from taking care of our bodies first, not managing the symptoms that arise because we failed to take care of our bodies uh in the past.
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  So, Jim Gale is an entrepreneur and a friend, and he has spent a majority of his time in the recent years uh teaching people how to create food forests.
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  So, Jim, uh please introduce yourself a little more and let's get into this conversation about really bringing healthy food to our communities, to our families, and into our bodies to restore wellness and not just that, but to take care of our communities because really I that's what I want this conversation to be about is how do we take care of our communities while also taking care of our bodies?
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  Uh and it's all the same thing.
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  When we take care of our bodies and our land, and when we become the stewards that we are meant to be of our natural system of this mother earth, when we care for Mother Earth, then what comes back to us is exponential abundance.
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  In fact, since the sun uh just kind of peeked behind the clouds, uh, I'll just show you what I mean, right?
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  So this is our family homestead.
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  We live a hundred percent off the grid.
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  And we have now, well, we started with a bed of sand.
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  In fact, here's some of the sand right here.
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  This is like Florida sugar sand, it just it's like dust in the wind.
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  So what we did, we just got done with construction is on the edges, we started putting in perennial edible plants, right?
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  Perennial plants are plants that you plant one time and they can feed your great-great great great-great-great-grandkids, right?
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  There's there's actually an olive tree in the Greek Isle of Crete that has been around feeding people for over 2,500 years.
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  One living thing.
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  So this system all around me, this baby food forest, right?
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  We've got bigger food forests over here and over there and over there, but this is a baby, and it's already producing an exponential amount of food, right?
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  These are all sweet potato starts, and the leaves are edible, the stems are edible, and of course, sweet potatoes are incredibly good for you.
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  And this is star fruit and bananas and avocado and apricot, and that is so delicious.
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  Those baby sweet potato leaves are amazing.
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  And by the way, to everybody listening, you can go scroll sweet potatoes in your garage, you can grow them on your deck, even in Minnesota where I'm from, you can grow them indoors in the winter, and then bring them outside in like late April or May, and by the end of summer, you will have so much that you could literally eat sweet potatoes every day all winter long.
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  If you do it right.
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  Wow.
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  We're about we're about demonstrating the solution to cancer and diabetes and heart disease to childhood depression, childhood diabetes, all of our biggest problems stem from and come from a toxic environment.
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  Right.
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  So, Jim, what got you into this work?
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  Um, in 2007, I had sold a mortgage company that did about 1.3 billion dollars in revenue, and I retired, and I had time and I had money, and it was 2007, and I was in Costa Rica, and I was at a little expat table.
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  We're having a conversation, just a random conversation.
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  Um, and the group was amazing.
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  I was with my dad, who was a retired pipe fitter, and then he had a friend who was a retired teacher, and then there was a CIA agent retired and a New York cop and a drug runner at the end of the table, and they were all good friends.
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  And then there was a homeless guy and another gal who sold marijuana on the streets right next to me.
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  And we were all just talking about stuff.
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  And the guys at the end of the table said, Jim, 9-11 was an inside job.
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  And I looked at him and I said, You guys are effing crazy.
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  There's no way that's possible.
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  Because if it were, then we would know about it.
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  I was that's how ignorant I was.
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  I didn't understand compartmentalization, and I had no idea that for hundreds of years, the rulers had controlled the pen, right?
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  Which is mightier than the sword.
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  They had literally owned the media.
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  In fact, JP Morgan, over a hundred years ago, commissioned a study to study the most influential media outlets of the day with his network of bankers, and they bought them all so they could control the narrative, which has led to now a corporatocracy where the corporations and the bankers and the government is all the same thing.
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  Right.
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  That's why it's great to have programs like this out there because we are decentralizing the media and having conversations like this.
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  So in light of your discoveries, it led you down the path of trying to become sustainable and uh building resources to protect your communities.
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  Is that true?
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  That's exactly right.
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  So, you know, when a lot of people right now are studying the problem all day, every day.
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  They're just infatuated with what's next.
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  And that I experienced that, and that brought me into a state of scarcity because once I became aware that we are using our resources in an unsustainable way, and that all unsustainable systems fail, and I recognize the grand nature of our unsustainable systems, like our use of uh of our natural resources.
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  If we have a systemic ecosystem collapse, then I'm not gonna have grandkids, and I want grandkids, right?
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  So I went into this two-year deep dive.
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  I had time and I had money, and I studied for 12 hours every day.
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  I was infatuated with studying the problem.
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  And then, because I'm an optimist by my nature, I was reading something about permaculture, which is an agricultural design science that basically mimics nature, but you design whatever food products and and plants and guilds that you want into your yard through this permaculture design process.
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  And I read Bill Mollison's quote.
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  He was the father of permaculture, and he said, though the problems of our world are increasingly complex, the solutions remain embarrassingly simple.
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  And I started to ball because I recognized at that moment that it was my duty for the sake of my future grandkids and my kids and everything I love about this world to focus my energy on the solutions, and that has led us to here where we are demonstrating the solutions.
• 9:57
  Wow, that's a great uh that's a great revolution.
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  I want to go back to a second ago to when you mentioned this mindset of scarcity, because I think that that is such a profound part of this conversation and just of getting ourselves out of these positions, because I think that's a lot of where people get stuck so often in the world is that we see so much of these things on social media and on all of these different platforms and all these distractions and all of this stuff that we get pulled into in our lives that really like builds up, like even like they did during COVID really builds up this mindset of fear and scarcity, and it's so incredibly profoundly impactful on our ability to come up with solutions and to even conceptualize like what could a solution look like and how could we get there?
• 10:57
  And I feel like that's really kind of why so many people don't take a minute to recognize how profoundly important it is to think about and talk about and explore the work that you're doing, Jim, because it's very simple, and it has the power to completely transform the world around us.
• 11:24
  And so tell me a little bit more about that mindset for you and how you got out of that mindset and how um you've used your you know intellectual uh research to then create a business and success uh out of creating these food forests.
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  There are a lot of layers to what you said, and you're so right.
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  This idea of fear and scarcity is a control mechanism, right?
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  Because, and this is scientific when we're scared, we are retracted in our brains, it's a chemical process in our bodies that creates dis-ease and disease.
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  It literally a seed of fear, a seed of scarcity can turn into cancer and diabetes and heart disease and everything else, and it's a contraction of the ability to solve problems, so they need us to be fearful, they need us to be in a state of concern and worry and fear and scarcity, and they manufacture scarcity, right?
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  Like everything around here, this is my salvation.
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  This is my food for this is my bank.
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  Like literally, this is my bank, and the amount of ROI that comes from this bank, it's also my medicine, right?
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  It's a bank without inflation, it's a bank with appreciation, right?
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  Yeah, it's the opposite of inflation.
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  Everything here is going up in value exponentially.
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  Right.
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  I mean, I'll give you an example.
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  I gave a sweet potato star to a friend that came by a while back, and he came back to a barter and exchange event that we had, and he said, Jim, that vine that you gave me, I've already grown a hundred pounds of sweet potatoes.
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  But the best part is now about 20 of my friends are also growing sweet potatoes because I've given them vines.
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  Wow.
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  So it's exponential.
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  Everything here is a literally a free energy system.
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  Tesla can eat his heart out, right?
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  There's free energy all around us all the time.
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  We have just been so distracted, and we don't see what's right and underneath our feet most of the time.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  So how much space and how much time does it take for a normal person who has no background at all in growing food to start to produce something that could be meaningful for their families?
• 14:06
  Well, it's always better to show than to tell, right?
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  So I'll just I'll show you.
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  Um, this is uh an avocado tree right here.
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  This is already produced probably two dozen avocados, and it's still a baby, right?
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  And this tree will get you know, uh quite a bit thicker at the base, and as we trim it up, it'll get bigger and taller and stuff.
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  But this takes about, I don't know, maybe 30, 40 square feet on the ground.
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  Maybe it'll take a hundred square feet on the ground eventually, and that's just that tree layer.
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  The we bought that tree when it was like maybe five feet tall for maybe 150 dollars.
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  Now it's eight feet tall.
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  And if we bought that same tree now two years later at a nursery, it would cost about 350, right?
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  And we also have the ground cover stuff.
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  So my point with that is you don't need much space to create a fruit tree guild, right?
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  A guild is a community of plants that support each other.
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  So if you have a little tiny bit of space, you can grow one fruit tree.
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  If you have a little bit more space, you can grow apricots and uh more avocados and mangoes and lyches and longins and apples and peaches and plums and pears and raspberries and blueberries and blackberries and so on.
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  So the the best part about this is this system is far less maintenance than a lawn.
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  Oh wow, that could be really attractive to normal people.
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  So your your lawns, right?
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  You've got to mow the lawn every couple weeks.
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  You gotta what put, I mean, what's the maintenance like?
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  How do you how do you make that comparison?
• 15:51
  Well, there's yeah, I mean, I'd say here in Florida in the in the rainy seasons, probably every 10 days in the dry season, it might be every 20 days, where you've got to mow the lawn, right?
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  Here, we have cleaned that area one time or two times in two years.
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  And so it's less maintenance, and the lawn is the physical foundation of humanity's enslavement, right?
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  There are almost 50 million acres of lawn in the United States, right?
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  And we simply, when we simply supplant maybe 50% of that 50 million acres, that's 25 million acres.
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  25 million acres of lawn.
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  My my dog Lily is buffing the camera, Lily Bear.
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  You stay right there, stay right there.
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  Good girl.
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  Um 25 million acres of food forest, meaning your food is right in your backyard, can actually feed the entire United States population.
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  So to all the farmers out there who are being deceived and ripped off by the big corporations, the insurance companies and the banks and the seed suppliers, it's all one mega corpse portion, right?
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  It's uh it's a fictional dying system.
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  So we need to get the the farmers out of that fictional dying system to go back to what they're meant to do and what they want to do.
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  And by the way, this is the reason why farmers are so old now as a as a uh general rule and that why their kids don't want to go into farming, because they know that what they're doing is not in alignment with health and wellness and vitality and life.
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  So they and like the farmers in Iowa, they have more cancer, they're the like the sickest group of people in the world is the farmers in Iowa because of all the poisons that they're using to kill the soil, right?
• 17:49
  Do you know much about the subsidies and the the tricks that the um uh big agricultural uh groups and companies are using to really like you know put the put the farmers under their thumb and and keep them into uh this kind of debt-based system?
• 18:08
  Because I I know that that's not the case with the Amish, like you know, their communities that are sustainable and produce all of this, you know, food healthy food that they share, not just with themselves, but also selling to uh outside of their communities.
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  They're not there.
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  I I was just visiting um what's that town in Pennsylvania?
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  Um there's a town where there's a ton of Amish people, and it was so incredible to see how successful they were, like their farmhouses, they're like equipment, like those people are not poor.
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  And and it's because I would argue that you're correct, it's because that they have managed to separate themselves from the corporate structure of big ag in the United States.
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  Do you know much about the big ag businesses and how they they work?
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  I know that it's all contrived, it's all meant for control, and because you know, back in 1974, Henry Kissinger was giving uh a speech as the head of the council on foreign relations.
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  He's the guy, by the way, that appointed Klaus Schwab.
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  And he said, if you want to control nations, control energy.
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  If you want to control the world, control the world's currency, but if you want to control people, control food, right?
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  That doctrine, that strategy has led to basically one group of corporations that run almost like 90 plus percent of our food.
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  The average farm to table is 1500 miles, and it's the subsidies that are only given to those who follow this system of toxification and poison.
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  Poison using GMO crops that cannot go to seed.
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  Right.
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  That whole system is simply the control mechanism that Henry Kissinger laid out about 50 years ago.
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  Yeah, Dr.
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  Back in 2015, I heard an interview that Dr.
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  Zach Bush gave.
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  He was a triple board certified uh oncologist, and he produced groundbreaking research on curing cancer.
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  But in the midst of doing all that research, one of the things that he discovered was that there was a direct correlation between the large waterways, specifically the Mississippi and the Missouri River in the United States and incidences of cancer.
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  This is back in 2015.
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  He determined that uh through his analysis of the data that in that region, over 90% of the people living along that river or that those waterways would develop cancer in their lifetime.
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  And that was back in 2015.
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  It's gone up since then.
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  But uh that to me was one of the main reasons why I have really gravitated towards having conversations with people like you, because it has become very clear to anyone who's paying attention that the standard model of food husbandry, right?
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  Raising and producing crops and food in this country is very dangerous, right?
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  We have uh one of we the United States has the highest number of people and children suffering with chronic diseases, which more and more through analysis of the data we're finding is directly linked to, like you said, toxic exposures.
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  And the chemicals that these that these major food producers are putting on our food are one of the primary potential um components to that poison that's that's entering our bodies.
• 21:58
  So that to me is a huge reason why I just have so much respect for what you advocate for and why you're doing the work that you're doing.
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  Um, and and my question on that is is how much of a factor is that in the work that you do, and how do you um present your um your strategies in this way, like to address those topics?
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  Well, so the first thing that I recognize is you have to prove it.
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  If you want any respect, you should be able to prove it.
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  And I'm not the first.
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  In fact, I'm the billionth, right?
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  There, this has been the norm for people for the history of the world.
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  It was normal for people to grow food in their yards until the last hundred years.
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  And so we start by proving it, and then we ask questions around strategy.
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  What is a strategy?
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  Because okay, here's here's how we change the world.
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  It's the only one that we actually win this.
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  Some people call it a war or a divine game or whatever, but there's only one way for us to win it, and it has to include mass adoption of taking the poisons out and becoming the stewards of our land again.
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  Right.
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  So this solution is it's a fact that when we do that, cancer trans, diabetes, trans, heart disease, trans, crime, tyranny, war, all of the big plagues of earth will be reversed because it because people who live this way don't suffer from those things.
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  In fact, I'll give you one example.
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  Um, prisons, right?
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  When inmates in a California prison system were uh given the opportunity to grow food.
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  The inmates that participated in this program for three years or more, the recidivism rate went from 67% to 10%.
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  Right.
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  That is literally the end of the majority of crime, right?
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  So that's a strategy now.
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  So now we talk to people like Andre Norman, who started second chance university, the largest university in the world with 650,000 inmates that have his tablets.
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  Um we just interacted this morning, and I said, Andre, we're gonna create a curriculum for you so we can take what's considered one of the biggest liabilities in our world, right?
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  The prison population.
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  And we can first of all reduce the vast majority of recidivism, but we can by giving them an outlet for their time and energy, right?
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  That will create uh the most fundamental thing we can learn how to do in our culture is learn how to be self-reliant and learn how to take care of ourselves using Mother Nature, right?
• 24:55
  So that's one strategy that we have implemented.
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  We've also created campaign strategies and several gubernatorial candidates have reached out, one just this morning who is very well known, and we are giving this campaign strategy of regeneration.
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  And as a result of this regeneration, prison, you know, crime, sickness, all of these things are healed.
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  Even traffic is gonna go down massively when we do this.
• 25:23
  Wow.
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  So tell me, I want to get more into this.
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  What you said about prisons.
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  Tell me about your projects around prisons, and then we'll cut go to a break and discuss this more.
• 25:33
  Awesome.
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  So um, what we are doing is we're creating a curriculum library at our, we have a not nonprofit.
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  It's a 501c3.
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  It's called originsreclaimed.org.
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  And the people that are running that are absolutely amazing, committed.
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  They've been volunteering their time for this mission for decades, quite quite literally.
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  And now it's all coming to fruition in a beautiful way.
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  So we're creating this curriculum library where we're bringing in the world's best teachers on regenerative agriculture and trauma healing, right?
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  People like Pat Miletich, who was a uh UFC world champion, then became the best coach in the world and is now a soil savior, right?
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  And he's got soil saviors.org and and people like uh Theo Fleury, who was uh world-class hockey player, six Stanley Cup champions and a captain of an Olympic gold medal team who suffered great trauma, right?
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  So we bring in trauma healing, and he talks about trauma healing.
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  So we heal the trauma on multiple levels in these prisons by uh by these methods taught by the best in the world, and we put that curriculum there and it's open source so anybody can have access to it.
• 26:48
  And they're building gardens, is that also part of this?
• 26:51
  So right.
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  The inmates grow food in prisons.
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  How much of their food supply have you been able to, and how many prisons are operating this?
• 27:02
  And how much of their food supply have you been able to replace with the gardens that you have um successfully built in those?
• 27:09
  So check this out.
• 27:10
  So, first of all, we are pushing buttons.
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  The system itself is so radically corrupt.
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  Um, the the program that was in the California prisons resulted in a 40 million dollar tax relief for the people that paid taxes that went to that prison system.
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  That's how much food that the inmates grew in the prisons.
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  Um, and then got rid of it.
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  40 million, and they got rid of it.
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  40 million was just the financial number, not let alone all the other down the line benefits, but they got rid of it because the prison system needs inmates, it needs butts in beds, right?
• 27:53
  And there was another fella, um, Dr.
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  Michael Rice.
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  Um, I hope I got his last name right.
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  Uh, he created a trauma healing program where they had over a 90% reduction in recidivism.
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  They proved it and they kicked him out of the prison system because they were losing money.
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  So, what we're doing is we're we're shining a light on these truths in such a way that these governors and sheriffs and people are starting to take notice, and they're starting to say, we're going to do this because it's the ethical, moral, and lawful thing to do.
• 28:28
  Anything other than this would be unlawful, and these good people are starting to step up and recognize this.
• 28:36
  Right.
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  So it sounds like the big business aspect of the prison systems and in all respects, even with the uh agricultural production in this country it at the at the root is really comes back to these corrupt systems monetizing their products rather than looking out for the best interests of the people that they're supplying these foods to.
• 29:06
  So I want to uh let's go to a quick break right now, and then we're gonna come back.
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  I want to talk more about these prisons and the corruption that you've noticed uh around these topics.
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  And the school.
• 29:18
  Yeah, and then the schools, absolutely.
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  So we'll be right back after this break.
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• 33:02
  America Outlaw Doc News.
• 33:04
  Liberty and Justice for All.
• 33:12
  All right, welcome back.
• 33:14
  We are here with Jim Gale talking about food forests and how to really start to wrap your head around the corruption in agriculture and the impact that it has on you and your personal life and your family, and how we can start to try to unwind some of these systems and step into our power to restore wellness to our communities.
• 33:36
  So, Jim, we were talking about the prison systems and how beneficial your programs were in creating uh sustainable prisons, right?
• 33:47
  So the inmates would come in, they would guard they would learn a new skill, so they would become gardeners, they would produce so much food that it uh they were able to contribute outside of the system itself to and and you were saying reduce the uh the um the payments to uh to the prisons by 40 million dollars uh through the benefit of those systems and how much corruption was involved in shutting down the that um that successful project that you are going to well I didn't have this going.
• 34:26
  These are programs that have been going all over, these have been demonstrated in actually multiple countries, including the United States on multiple occasions, including now in some places, they're actually doing this now with great results.
• 34:39
  Our job is to bring these back at scale and add on the permaculture elements to it so we can actually teach these inmates one of the most important trades they could ever have, especially in our world today, solving, I'd say one of the biggest problems in our world right now, and that is a poisonous food supply chain.
• 35:00
  Absolutely.
• 35:01
  Well, that's good work.
• 35:03
  And how could our listeners help with that kind of awareness?
• 35:08
  I mean, is there something that people can do, like your regular person in terms of like getting, you know, advocating for these types of uh programs into prison systems and and things like that.
• 35:22
  Um, origins reclaimed.org.
• 35:25
  We are a community of solutionaries who are coming together, everything is open source, and we're coming together with solutions so we can change the world, so we can help this transition, right?
• 35:37
  Because the system is unsustainable.
• 35:39
  We know that.
• 35:39
  Everybody listening to your show is aware, that's why they're listening.
• 35:43
  So we are either going to experience a collapse, which would be calamitous and cause a lot of chaos and a lot of suffering, or we are going to experience a transition.
• 35:54
  It'll probably be a combination.
• 35:56
  In some places, there's already collapsing happening.
• 35:59
  Um, so what our job is is to everybody who's listening to be the change that they want to see in the world.
• 36:07
  And I'm sharing with you a pathway that this is the change.
• 36:12
  And it is the most healing and joyful.
• 36:14
  I I can't wait.
• 36:16
  In the morning, I get up, I have my coffee, I come out here, and I just sit out here and feel the energy.
• 36:23
  I smell the beautiful smells, and I look at the flowers and the butterflies, and I listen to the birds.
• 36:28
  And it's like the most epic system.
• 36:32
  And this can be created at every prison and then the schools.
• 36:35
  That's what I'd love to get into next.
• 36:37
  Is let's talk about it.
• 36:39
  I love it.
• 36:40
  So I met uh a little over two years ago with Bobby Kennedy, and I had a plan came to me when I was in the garden.
• 36:51
  And it blew my mind.
• 36:52
  It was a campaign strategy because this is two, you know, two years ago, plus in the middle of the campaign, you know, trail, and I all of a sudden got up and I started writing these campaign talking points.
• 37:04
  And the first talking point, which was the idea was that Bobby Kennedy would take this as his campaign strategy and change the world.
• 37:13
  And the first talking point was we are going to take the poisons out of our schools and our children will heal.
• 37:21
  And I have a picture where Bobby Kennedy was standing in a school surrounded by kids, all putting food in the ground and planting fruit trees while Bobby was talking about regenerative agriculture and what that would mean for the health and well-being of the kids and not only the kids, but their communities, because every food forest, by its very nature, is a nursery, right?
• 37:48
  So now every school, if this is the only thing that we accomplished, is we we created classes as a regular part of the curriculum for every school.
• 37:58
  And by the way, we've done this, and we bring those classes to every school, then every school will become a nursery.
• 38:07
  The children will heal.
• 38:09
  It's been proven children that work outside with the land and poison-free soil and gardening are healthier by far than children who don't.
• 38:18
  And then we propagate from the school into the community.
• 38:23
  If that's the only thing that we did, it would radically change the world in a positive way.
• 38:29
  Tell me about the schools that you've done this in and what you've seen come out of it.
• 38:34
  So the school, we put out food for us in a school right up the road here called Creative Inspiration Journey.
• 38:41
  And it's one of the biggest attractions when they're talking about the school itself.
• 38:45
  And we got so kind of disenfranchised with the current indoctrination model that we created our own school.
• 38:53
  It's called Origins Reclaimed Academy.
• 38:56
  It's Origins Reclaimed Academy.
• 38:59
  And this school is another open source idea that can literally feed the world.
• 39:05
  And here's how it works.
• 39:06
  So we started the elementary portion of the school in August.
• 39:11
  And the kids love it so much.
• 39:13
  My daughter often leaves barefoot and comes home barefoot and never puts shoes on all day long.
• 39:19
  She says, Dada, on a weekend or during a break, she says, when does school start again?
• 39:24
  She's bummed out that there's no school that day.
• 39:27
  Like that says it all, right?
• 39:29
  And these kids, these little kids have already planted hundreds of food producing plants around our community.
• 39:36
  So that was so exciting that we are now starting a senior high in January.
• 39:41
  And we are integrating stewardship and entrepreneurship.
• 39:45
  So this the students of this school will be responsible for creating a local food supply chain.
• 39:54
  Now, what does this mean?
• 39:55
  This is so profound.
• 39:56
  And let's get to some real numbers.
• 39:58
  So imagine students.
• 40:00
  Spending 10 to 20 minutes a day planting or propagating 10 plants a day, right?
• 40:06
  Now you take, let's say it's 15 students.
• 40:09
  15 times 10 is 150.
• 40:11
  Over a little bit of time, like over a couple months time with a little bit of watering, those 150 seeds are now worth five to $10 each because now they're plants.
• 40:24
  And if they're fruit trees that are propagated, they're worth even more than that.
• 40:28
  They might be worth 20 or 30 dollars.
• 40:30
  So just based on the numbers, 150 times 10 is 1,500 a day that can come from the school.
• 40:40
  And then we reached out to the local retailers and we said, hey, we're starting a school where the kids will be growing food, and more importantly than just giving somebody a fish, growing food and giving somebody a tomato.
• 40:53
  We sell the plant starts from the school.
• 40:56
  So people will grow their own food at home, right?
• 41:00
  And so every retailer that we spoke with said, I love that idea, and we would love to support it.
• 41:07
  That's incredible.
• 41:08
  So you're growing the starts, the children as part of their curriculum are create creating a business, an entrepreneur, entrepreneurial opportunity to learn skills, not just with gardening, but also with starting a business and marketing their uh their products.
• 41:25
  So that sounds incredible.
• 41:27
  So this is successfully been operating, and you're and you have vendors who are buying these starts, and the school is and the children are seeing the results of that pro that profit.
• 41:41
  Yes, the elementary school that we've sold a few things because they're elementary kids and they're five, six, seven years old.
• 41:49
  And that's why we started the senior high because in the senior high starting in January, it's gonna be run as a business.
• 41:56
  And here's the kicker here in the state of Florida and multiple other states, the money follows the student.
• 42:02
  What does that mean?
• 42:03
  Well, here you can get between eight and ten thousand dollars per student for senior high.
• 42:08
  I believe it's 7200 and 9200 per student.
• 42:12
  So now let's say we have 15 students, that's almost like 140,000 or 130 some thousand dollars per year that pays two teachers really well, and the state pays for it.
• 42:27
  So it's a private school that not only does it not cost the parents an arm and a leg, but the parents and the students receive the value that is generated by the students at the school.
• 42:40
  So as the students are creating their business and getting the yield of food and profits, it goes to them and their parents.
• 42:48
  It's a school that actually makes money while creating abundance and solving one of their community's biggest problems.
• 42:56
  So are you looking for other schools to share this uh platform with this uh um what would you call it?
• 43:05
  A uh like a pilot.
• 43:08
  Yes, it's a model that can scale to every single neighborhood, right?
• 43:13
  Here in Florida, it's all you need is a space the size of a living room, and you could have five to ten kids and you need a little outdoor space, and the kids could go outside, and we have spent uh thanks to Emily Mock, who is really the curriculum creator, and Dr.
• 43:30
  Andrea Nazarenko, who's now coming in to really um add a lot of extra layers of of support and value.
• 43:36
  We can scale this school everywhere, and it's an open source model.
• 43:42
  So if people want our support through the nonprofit, we're happy to give it.
• 43:46
  If they simply want to take that idea and do it themselves, they can do that too.
• 43:51
  Wow.
• 43:52
  So you're really just offering a helping hand.
• 43:55
  That's the way to go, right?
• 43:58
  Wow, what an incredible opportunity.
• 44:00
  So we can come up with these kinds of solutions in terms of becoming more sustainable and taking ourselves away from this slave-based system, restoring the soil, um, teaching skills to people in prison and children.
• 44:20
  Uh, and and tell me how you've managed to make this into a business.
• 44:25
  I mean, is this all um is this all just uh have you been able to make it profitable and or uh what's what's the energy exchange for your kind of services?
• 44:37
  Yes, I love that.
• 44:38
  I love that.
• 44:39
  So the school starting right off the bat, the school was profitable because the state, you just have to follow some paperwork, which Emily um she's got that down pat.
• 44:50
  And the school is profitable from like week one, right?
• 44:54
  Which is really incredible.
• 44:56
  And my personal thing is um I've created a lot of models.
• 45:01
  We've created really cool steel frame greenhouses and chicken coops that are incredibly durable, and I've created the different entities like Food Forest Abundance.com where they design food forests, and I've given everything to the council.
• 45:19
  So I I literally signed a document, I've handed over all of my equity and all of my assets, uh, present and future, based on the permaculture ethics.
• 45:30
  All right, this is kind of hard for a lot of people to contemplate, but the permaculture ethics are very simple.
• 45:35
  They are people care, earth care, and reinvesting our surplus to people care and earth care.
• 45:42
  I've got enough.
• 45:44
  My family homestead has all of our food, water, and energy needs are met.
• 45:49
  So we don't need more than a couple grand a month, a few grand a month to live very, very well, right?
• 45:55
  And that's kind of fun money and you know, some entertainment money and a little bit of travel money and so on.
• 46:01
  So I've given all my equity and assets over to the council for stewardship.
• 46:06
  But as a business model, if somebody wants to be a teacher and they can find six kids or 10 kids in their local neighborhood that like this curriculum and this model, boom, they can be making 60 to 100 grand a year by next September.
• 46:24
  And they can consult with your company to get the resources and knowledge base to do that.
• 46:30
  That's exactly right.
• 46:31
  And our company, um, it's a it's a $5,000 um basically buy-in, and it's a nonprofit, and that $5,000 pays for the curriculum, 10 hours of one-on-one consulting, along with then we run it similar to the model of a franchise without all the hooks.
• 46:50
  Like I said, it's open source.
• 46:51
  So if anybody ever wants to do it on their own, they sure can.
• 46:54
  Um, and we will still allow access to all of our systems.
• 46:58
  Um, and then we'll do like a seven to ten percent of the monthly gross revenue, and then that goes back into the nonprofit that creates more curriculum and that helps open and fund more schools because again, this schooling model can literally feed the world.
• 47:15
  So there's a couple of different options, and one of them is like uh uh like a pay as you go kind of reinvestment type of opportunity, so that you know, you don't have to have a lot to really do a lot.
• 47:30
  That's exactly right.
• 47:32
  And so, like, let's say somebody, you know, wants to start one of these schools, and they've got here's what you need.
• 47:38
  You need passion to teach, and you need to know how to teach, right?
• 47:42
  A teaching degree, or you need to hire somebody that has the passion and the ability to teach.
• 47:48
  Um, and that that can be done fairly easily.
• 47:51
  A lot of teachers are looking for better jobs, and then you need an indoor space, right?
• 47:56
  And then you need an outdoor space.
• 47:58
  If you can find those things, then we can help you start your own school very quickly where you're doing really, really good work for your community and making good money.
• 48:10
  And are the students able to take home some of that food with them?
• 48:14
  It's theirs.
• 48:16
  That's the kicker is the students take home not only the food, but in the senior high, they create the business and they take home the money.
• 48:26
  Yeah.
• 48:27
  So you're feeding the family in addition to teaching the skills to the children.
• 48:33
  And also supporting the community.
• 48:35
  Yeah, there's a school nearby here.
• 48:37
  Uh, it's a church, actually, where I'm located.
• 48:41
  And uh they are a food pantry that also um feeds the community, and it's got a homeschool group attached to it.
• 48:52
  It could use a little more TLC and some of the work you have going on it.
• 48:56
  It's very inspiring uh to think that uh, you know, they could really get going with a full fledged program with no real um you know, financial burden and oh, yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
• 49:15
  They could also do this.
• 49:17
  Let's say they don't have a lot of extra cash flow for the $5,000 initial.
• 49:21
  They could reach out to the parents of 10 kids, and each parent could put up 500 bucks for the initial 5,000, and they could do it as a community.
• 49:32
  And that's what we're doing.
• 49:33
  We just had a family sign up and they've got an autistic daughter, she's 22, and the state pays for all this schooling.
• 49:41
  And we're basically collaborating with our community, and they'll be part of the school.
• 49:47
  Sometimes they'll be here, sometimes they won't, but basically, it's not like this current system where the students are inside and the parents are outside.
• 49:55
  It's like the invitation to do it as a community, right.
• 50:00
  Because that's really what this is about is finding a way to really step outside of this corporatization of our food supply, eliminate the chemicals that are causing all the illness and disease that we're struggling with, and also arm our children and our prison mates, right, with skills that they can take with them to become more functional members of society.
• 50:22
  So, what do you think is the biggest drawback to why these systems aren't really taking root in the mainstream?
• 50:31
  Well, it's timing of things.
• 50:34
  People are so distracted right now.
• 50:39
  The attention, this box that I'm looking into right now.
• 50:43
  How many hours a day compared to 20 years ago, right?
• 50:47
  How many hours more per day does the average person spend looking into a little fictional box, right?
• 50:54
  It's exponential.
• 50:55
  It's absolutely ridiculous, which is by the way, why I'm getting rid of mine on Christmas Eve, my birthday.
• 51:00
  Um that's the main thing is our attention and the distractions are everywhere.
• 51:06
  The second thing is they haven't heard of it, they're just not aware of it.
• 51:10
  But that's why, Gail, this conversation and to those listening, it's so important because now they know, right?
• 51:16
  That the word choice is almost always misused because the word implies awareness.
• 51:21
  But if there's not awareness of a choice, then there is no choice.
• 51:24
  So our job is to shine a light on and create awareness that there are really awesome solutions to these big problems.
• 51:33
  Right.
• 51:33
  And they're really tangible too.
• 51:35
  It's not, this is not a complicated solution.
• 51:38
  It's actually a very simple one, like you'd said at the beginning.
• 51:42
  And uh, it's not going to take very much um, you know, uh energy from people to really do it.
• 51:51
  But I think also back to uh, you know, the one of the things we first started talking about with the mindset and the fear and the not knowing.
• 52:03
  Uh, is there is there anything that that you could bring to encourage people to kind of branch out of the mindsets and the patterns that they're stuck in with not feeling able or uh uh or skilled enough or capable enough to take steps in this direction and uh really start to step into asking the questions of is this possible and how can we make this happen?
• 52:30
  I mean, what could make that easier for people?
• 52:33
  Well, the first step is to follow your bliss to take a breath and focus on the present, right?
• 52:42
  This idea that the present of is a gift from God, it's been so cliched, but the truth is that the present is where all the new information is, right?
• 52:51
  So to learn how to breathe into this now, this moment, this epic moment of life and feel the frequency and the energy and the vibration of this moment in your hands and your body and your heart, and then ask new questions, right?
• 53:06
  Affirmations they suck compared to questions.
• 53:10
  So whenever we get stressed out, ask a question that's the opposite of that, right?
• 53:15
  So ask what's great about that, and then and then find different ways to ask questions, which will open up new pathways, new gateways, new doorways in our mind and in our awareness, and then take steps towards what you want, right?
• 53:31
  A lot of people are so bummed out trying to get away from what they don't want that they're completely missing the mark.
• 53:37
  Take steps.
• 53:38
  First of all, decide what you want, write it down on paper, and then once you declare this is what I want, this is my dream, my vision, and then you'll what happens when you do that is the universe opens up and it shows you these little signs, which are all over all the time.
• 53:56
  But if we're not focused on that, we don't see them, right?
• 53:59
  So then start taking steps towards towards, towards, and then pretty soon you get momentum, and then boom, everything is beautiful.
• 54:07
  Right.
• 54:08
  Absolutely.
• 54:09
  It just takes our our mindset shifts and the first step and the courage to take that step.
• 54:15
  So from here, where what are you moving forward into?
• 54:18
  You're gonna open up the um the junior high, the next level of the school.
• 54:25
  Actually, yep.
• 54:27
  And so we've got several people coming from different places here, and August is when we plan to have 40, right?
• 54:35
  For the rest of this year, we might have 10 to 12.
• 54:38
  Um, and that's fine because it's kind of our pilot year as we collaborate with other people who want to do the same.
• 54:44
  And I also don't want to imply that it's complicated, it's absolutely not complicated.
• 54:49
  The homeschool moms here in Florida and dads have been doing things like this for a long, long time.
• 54:56
  They just haven't organized effectively, right?
• 54:59
  Dr.
• 54:59
  Martin Luther King, he said, those who love peace must learn to organize as effectively as those who love war.
• 55:06
  So that's what we're here to do.
• 55:08
  We're here to help organize the curriculum and the support groups and all the different models and stuff, and then just give them away and just keep that energy of service flowing.
• 55:20
  And the ultimate ROI is life on earth because the current trajectory is black rock.
• 55:26
  Most people don't realize that that is not only the name of the corporation that controls the world energy system, it's also the intention, right?
• 55:36
  So we have to take our energy out of that fictional system and then put it back into the real.
• 55:42
  So where can people find you, Jim?
• 55:46
  So I'm uh kind of going offline a little bit.
• 55:49
  I mean, I'm pretty easy to get a hold of.
• 55:50
  They can come and visit us.
• 55:52
  We have we're on a private 430-acre lake where we've got the only docks on the lake, people can kayak and fish and so on.
• 56:00
  Um, and our website for our off-grid community here in St.
• 56:03
  Cloud, Florida is Gaultslanding.
• 56:07
  Farm.
• 56:07
  So it's G-A-L-T-S landing dot farm.
• 56:12
  They can stay in one of our Airbnbs.
• 56:15
  They can also meet the folks and get design services from the team at foodforestabundance.com.
• 56:22
  And then if they want to help in any way be part of our nonprofit community, our 501c3, it's origins reclaimed.org.
• 56:32
  Great.
• 56:33
  I will post those all in the show notes for anybody who's interested.
• 56:37
  And I would encourage all of the listeners to evaluate their priorities and recognize as uh this show ends uh where you're pouring your energy and um, you know, whether or not accessing resources to restore your wellness through creating a food forest or a garden in your in your yard or your community could be uh accessible to you.
• 57:08
  So Jim's the guy, uh, and he's got the resources to help connect you with that if you find that that is a solution you're looking for.
• 57:15
  So thank you so much, Jim, for coming and sharing your ass, your resources and your knowledge with us about these really important topics.
• 57:24
  And to everyone joining in today, thanks for listening in, and we'll see you next time.
• 57:29
  Thank you, Gail.
• 57:31
  It's time and this is why it's time and this life.