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Hungarian MotoGP: A Full Course of Chaos · Pit Talk

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Speaker 1: Balaton Park served up a full smallgus board this weekend
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Speaker 1: with sweet moments, sour shocks, and a few results that.
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Speaker 2: Is going to take a while to digest.
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Speaker 1: But the big question simmering after the Hungarian Grand Prix
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Speaker 1: should this track stay on the Motor GP calendar or
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Speaker 1: is it simply too dangerous to be served up again.
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Speaker 1: Pittalk is brought to you by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your
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Speaker 1: hostess with the mosts or Ronita Vmulin and joining me
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Speaker 1: at the table to chew it all over is my
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Speaker 1: co host Mac Clayton. Matt, I know you've got a
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Speaker 1: few strong flavors of your own regarding the Balaton Park circuit.
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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, look really good to join. You've made hungry
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Speaker 3: through the intro, which is pretty standard, so I need
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Speaker 3: to bring snacks to the podcast record or something that's
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Speaker 3: on me. But don't get me wrong, I love new
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Speaker 3: tracks on calendar. New tracks are cool. It's great to
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Speaker 3: go to different places, see different layouts, and you know,
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Speaker 3: it's nice to look at a track and not be
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Speaker 3: immediately familiar with what corner they're in and where they're
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Speaker 3: going and what the configuration is. That's all fine. New
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Speaker 3: tracks yes, this particular new track. I just there were
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Speaker 3: a couple of things in the layout that I reckon
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Speaker 3: that Motor GP might have got away with in terms
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Speaker 3: of major accidents or injuries. I don't know about you, but,
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Speaker 3: and I'm sure we'll get to this, but when an
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Speaker 3: Aa Bashyneni's sliding through the middle of a chicane with
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Speaker 3: the entire pack behind him on the first lap, I
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Speaker 3: actually physically stood back from the screen, just bracing myself
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Speaker 3: for the impacts. I thought he was incredibly lucky to
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Speaker 3: get away with that, and lucky seemed to be a
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Speaker 3: bit of a word of the weekend. You think of
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Speaker 3: Pedro Acosta's bike going over the fence and hitting a
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Speaker 3: camera operator and everyone was fine after that. It's just
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Speaker 3: the type of layout that lends itself to pretty sketchy
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Speaker 3: incidents if things go wrong. It's a car racing track,
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Speaker 3: let's be honest. The ramifications of things going wrong in
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Speaker 3: a car are far less on that particular circuit with
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Speaker 3: the layout. So I feel that motor GP got away
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Speaker 3: with one the track itself. It's nice to go to
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Speaker 3: new places. It wasn't the most inspiring layout of all time.
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Speaker 3: It was fine in a Vacuum. You know, I like
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Speaker 3: the fact we've got different styles and different requirements of tracks,
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Speaker 3: but it didn't strike me as being a classic in
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Speaker 3: the way that when we went to India for that
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Speaker 3: one year in twenty twenty three, obviously I knew that
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Speaker 3: track pretty well from the Formula one Days. It's a
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Speaker 3: shame from a racing point of view that track didn't
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Speaker 3: work out, because it's actuallyretty interesting. It's an interesting track there.
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Speaker 3: We know that some logistics things and a few unpaid
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Speaker 3: invoices put paid to that particular event. So it looks
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Speaker 3: like we're going to keep going back to Hungary, but
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Speaker 3: not sure. That's one of those ones that everyone's going
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Speaker 3: to be looking forward to massively, and I'm kind of
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Speaker 3: glad we got away with it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like a lot of the info that
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Speaker 1: was coming from the balt On Park Circle this weekend
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Speaker 1: was a mixed bag. Some writers are going, this is
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Speaker 1: a go kart track, this is so dangerous, and others
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Speaker 1: are saying, you know what, I actually enjoyed it. It
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Speaker 1: seems like it was just one person would say something,
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Speaker 1: someone else would say something else. But I think, like,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about Anne is crash during the race, because
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Speaker 1: same thing for me. I know you said you step back.
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Speaker 1: I was sitting on the sofa and the gasp. Normally
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Speaker 1: I watched these races and go, oh, well that was
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Speaker 1: close or what. But to see that, to also think
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Speaker 1: about the fact of Luca Marini having that split nanosecond
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Speaker 1: to Missanaia as well.
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Speaker 2: You can see him try and go around.
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Speaker 1: It could have been two writers here that could have
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Speaker 1: it could have ended so badly. So yeah, and Nyas
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Speaker 1: sliding through everyone and you could just see his head turning, going.
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Speaker 2: What the actual is happening?
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Speaker 1: But Luca Marini also just getting caught up in it
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Speaker 1: and having to figure.
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Speaker 2: That out as well.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got the immediate guys behind Bastian and
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Speaker 3: you having to pick whether they're going to go inside
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Speaker 3: or outside of a moving target as it's sliding across
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Speaker 3: the track. And then of course every reaction that someone
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Speaker 3: like Marini makes service behind him has to make an
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Speaker 3: opposite reaction, and so on and so forth. So it's
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Speaker 3: testament to the incredible skill of these guys to be
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Speaker 3: able to identify the way through and not clean him up.
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Speaker 3: A massive amount of luck involved. Let's not be honest,
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Speaker 3: but the thing you just mentioned then about as soon
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Speaker 3: as he fell back, his first movement was to turn
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Speaker 3: to his left to see what was coming. And as
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Speaker 3: much as he had the helmet on and the visor down,
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Speaker 3: you can imagine the panic in his eyes. He's made
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Speaker 3: the mistake, that's one thing, But you're in pure survival
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Speaker 3: mode at that point and you are almost bracing yourself
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Speaker 3: via the impact. I don't think I've been that shocked
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Speaker 3: about someone sliding on the track or being prone across
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Speaker 3: the track. You remember the accident that Banya had at
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Speaker 3: Casalouniar a couple of years ago, where he was he
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Speaker 3: high sighted right in front of the pack and they
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Speaker 3: all scattered and then broke bid to hit him as
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Speaker 3: he was coming through at the back. We're pretty lucky
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Speaker 3: that day, but yeah, the absolute fear and bast in
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Speaker 3: his eyes you can only imagine. So I just don't
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Speaker 3: think tight chicanes on bike tracks. It just shouldn't happen.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't work. There's too many of them in the
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Speaker 3: lap to try and break the lap up. And you know,
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Speaker 3: look there's different configurations of that track. Maybe we take
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Speaker 3: one of the chicaines out. I don't know, but it's
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Speaker 3: an imperfect solution to an imperfect circuit. But yeah, we
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Speaker 3: got away with it and we had I've got to
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Speaker 3: say I feared it was going to be a bit
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Speaker 3: of a you know, sort of Indian vile race, no
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Speaker 3: one really doing much. It was actually a lot more
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Speaker 3: interesting on Sunday than I was expecting it to be
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Speaker 3: to a point. And the other point was that the
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Speaker 3: Motor three and Motor two races were both fantastic at
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Speaker 3: that track, particularly Moto two was just absolutely awesome. So
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Speaker 3: there must be something about that particular track and maybe
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Speaker 3: bikes without all the arrow and all of the various
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Speaker 3: bits on that motor g he has that makes them
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Speaker 3: better for racing. But yeah, I'm kind of glad we're
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Speaker 3: not going to a similar circuit next time.
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Speaker 1: No, I think you hit the nail on the head.
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Speaker 1: And that's something I was gonna talk about, was the
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Speaker 1: fact that Motor three, Motor two, the racing was a
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Speaker 1: phenomenal dam at Alonzo that last lap, Wow, I was
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Speaker 1: on the edge of my seat. But I think because
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Speaker 1: the rider is saying it's like a go cut track, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I feel like it is designed for the smaller bikes
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Speaker 1: without their arrow without all this extra stuff on there
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Speaker 1: that the riders are actually having to push themselves or
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Speaker 1: find the overtaking points, because it kind of seems like
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Speaker 1: this weekend there's really only a couple overtaking points and
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Speaker 1: that was it, and it wasn't even down the street.
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Speaker 1: It seems like that that's start finish street because so
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Speaker 1: shut there wasn't even enough time to get slipstream or anything.
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Speaker 1: And then the bigger bikes, right, So yeah, I do
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Speaker 1: agree for the lower classes.
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: It was fantastic racing, but then you get to Moto
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Speaker 1: GP and I hate saying it, but it's it's the
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Speaker 1: Marcus Show and we knew that was going to happen.
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Speaker 1: But the thing is that surprised me this weekend. We
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Speaker 1: had the two VR forty six's on the podium on
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Speaker 1: Saturday Sprint, but then Sunday's race, once again it was
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Speaker 1: Marco Bedzeki, who seems to be the only other writer
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Speaker 1: who's really pushing Mark for a majority of the race.
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Speaker 1: We know Aldegaez got that late race pace, we know
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Speaker 1: Joge Martin, which we'll get onto, but Marco Bedzeki Mark
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Speaker 1: and make the room. Marco was straight back that he
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Speaker 1: was giving it everything this weekend.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what's so interesting in this conversation,
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Speaker 3: this is something that's on the to do list between
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Speaker 3: now and Cattalourn. You know, I need to bury myself
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Speaker 3: and do a bit of a deep dive on this.
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Speaker 3: Do you remember at the beginning of the season where
6:55
Speaker 3: we used to talk about the Jacaddi Cup and it
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Speaker 3: was which dacadis finishing first, second, and third the sixth
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Speaker 3: best Ducatti is probably finishing sixth or seventh in the
7:03
Speaker 3: Grand Prix. As this season has developed, we're noticing at
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Speaker 3: the moment Aprilia has been really good from probably Silveston onwards.
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Speaker 3: And yes, Mark has won all these races in a
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Speaker 3: row now, but as at a Prillier, that's providing the
7:14
Speaker 3: biggest challenge. You think of Asen, you think of last week,
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Speaker 3: and you think of Austria, so Bdzeki's been really good
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Speaker 3: there and we'll get to Juge Martin. Don't worry, we
7:21
Speaker 3: must talk about him in this podcast. But Kasey m
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Speaker 3: has been really good now for the last three Grand Prix.
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Speaker 3: Costa was on the podium at Bruno first run of
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Speaker 3: the year, equal his career best result. We'd second on Sunday,
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Speaker 3: So isn't it interesting? You know, Honda are doing really well,
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Speaker 3: you know, more recently, So yes, Mark is still making
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Speaker 3: the difference on a Ducati, but it's not a Ducati
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Speaker 3: benefit now, and we're seeing the struggles that the other
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Speaker 3: five guys are having. Aldegero will be fantastic one weekend,
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Speaker 3: Anonymous the next weekend. The Banyaya story. There's a stat
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Speaker 3: that I'm going to throw at you later that I
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Speaker 3: knew it to be true, but I looked at it
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Speaker 3: and went, oh my god, this is how bad this
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Speaker 3: really is. It's so interesting now that we've got a
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Speaker 3: lot of their manufacturers unfortunately not Yamaha, but fighting for
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Speaker 3: meaningful prizes.
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Speaker 4: And the thing I read.
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Speaker 3: After Sunday we had four manufacturers in the first five
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Speaker 3: finishes on Sunday, first time that's happened for over two years.
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Speaker 3: So it does show you that, yes, Jucady is going
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Speaker 3: to win the Riders World Championship, They're going to win
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Speaker 3: the constructors. We know that they've got the best rider
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Speaker 3: on probably the best bike, but this is not turn
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Speaker 3: up on a Ducati and just win these days like
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Speaker 3: it was in the past. I think the fact, you've
8:26
Speaker 3: got a thicker brew here with katm coming on it
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Speaker 3: preally has been really good for pretty much half of
8:32
Speaker 3: the season. Now after the first five or six rounds
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Speaker 3: and seeing Hondas up fighting inside the top six legitimately
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Speaker 3: not through any sort of fluc or anything, it really
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Speaker 3: does show you that the race from second onwards is
8:44
Speaker 3: super interesting. It's just that the race of first place
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Speaker 3: is being won pretty much by the time everyone rolls
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Speaker 3: out for FP one.
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Speaker 4: At the moment.
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Speaker 1: So I know you're the stats men, but I have
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Speaker 1: a stat for you. Mat Marini's best Grand Prix result
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Speaker 1: with Honda becoming the first factory Honda writer to take
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Speaker 1: a double top five in the sprint era.
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Speaker 4: That is a three years. That is unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: Well a, it's amazing to say that about Honda, where
9:11
Speaker 3: we used to just take that for granted when you
9:12
Speaker 3: know certain writers were there in the past. But Marini's
9:15
Speaker 3: been low key one of the better stories of this
9:17
Speaker 3: sort of second half of the first half of the season,
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Speaker 3: if that makes sense, because he was seriously injured after
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Speaker 3: that accident that he had at Zuzukari.
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Speaker 4: He missed a few rounds.
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Speaker 3: It looked like it was going to be a long
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Speaker 3: time until he was back being himself again. His recovery
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Speaker 3: has been absolutely fantastic. We know him and Joan Mirror
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Speaker 3: on that new chassis me was really good in Austria.
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Speaker 3: Like they're just they're just looking really, really legit at
9:37
Speaker 3: the moment you add them into the mix where you
9:39
Speaker 3: know all the KTM riders are starting to come along
9:42
Speaker 3: a little bit bitter cost us the best of all
9:43
Speaker 3: of them. And then you just mentioned before, but Zeki
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Speaker 3: has led a number of laps in both Grand Prix
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Speaker 3: and they followed a familiar pattern in that he's been
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Speaker 3: the one that's He's sort of been the rabbit if
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Speaker 3: you like, a Mark's beIN the Hair's been the greyhound
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Speaker 3: chasing him. And you know Mark with race pace and
10:01
Speaker 3: tie management, tends to seal the day, but particularly a
10:04
Speaker 3: parlier and KTM to a lesser extent, Honda, they're making
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Speaker 3: the fight at the front super interesting. But what was
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Speaker 3: telling for me is I love watching I pride myself
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Speaker 3: as a bit of an unofficial body language expert here
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to put a pluck on the wall,
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Speaker 3: just give myself a doctorate or something. I love the
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Speaker 3: fact after all these races in the press conferences and
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Speaker 3: what have you.
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Speaker 4: Someone who asked Mark how hard.
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Speaker 3: He's been pushed over the course of the weekend. It
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Speaker 3: was a difficult, And there's some weekends where it is difficult,
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Speaker 3: like I think Acid for example. I don't think he
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Speaker 3: was the fastest rider there. He just didn't make a
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Speaker 3: mistake for two days and gave nobody a chance to
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Speaker 3: pass him. He was asked if the weekend was pretty easy,
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Speaker 3: and you're thinking brand new track. He learns them well,
10:40
Speaker 3: anti clockwise tracks. He's almost unbeatable at them. And he
10:43
Speaker 3: was asked if it was a difficult weekend, and he
10:45
Speaker 3: sort of thought about it. You could see the gears
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Speaker 3: turning and he's like, oh, maybe I could dress this
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Speaker 3: up and say it was a bit difficult. And he's like, nah,
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Speaker 3: it's pretty comfortable. He didn't try and bluff anyone to
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Speaker 3: say comfort table as Mark would say, and he's one
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Speaker 3: of my favorite Mark Marquez English words. But he knew
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Speaker 3: that he had this race pretty much where he wanted it.
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Speaker 3: Got his nose bloodied a bit on the first lap,
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Speaker 3: had that running with Bitzeki, dropped behind Morbid Deli, but
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Speaker 3: there was just an inevitability to it, and then towards
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Speaker 3: the end you could see him occasionally just churn out
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Speaker 3: a lap in the thirty sevens that no one else
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Speaker 3: was doing, just to keep himself interested. I think, just
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Speaker 3: to oh, I wonder if I can shave some time
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Speaker 3: on this corner. So I don't think this one was
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Speaker 3: particularly difficult. Probably no surprise that he learned a new
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Speaker 3: circuit faster than everybody else. There'll be other tracks of
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Speaker 3: the rest of the season that clearly are more difficult.
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Speaker 3: What I'd be super curious to know is I wonder
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Speaker 3: what you could get, what odds you could get for
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Speaker 3: Mark winning every race for.
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Speaker 4: The rest of the season.
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Speaker 3: Be very curious to see what you could get if
11:39
Speaker 3: you put some money down on that, because that's eight
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Speaker 3: more rounds, sixty more races across eight rounds. He could
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Speaker 3: finish two thousan twenty five on a thirty race winning streak.
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Speaker 2: Hows that could you imagine?
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Speaker 1: And the only one he didn't win is Coder, which
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Speaker 1: is he's the King of Coder.
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Wow. But for a season.
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Speaker 3: Before I let you go with Mark, I've got to
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Speaker 3: tell you this now, because this is cued up literally
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Speaker 3: on my second screen here. So Mark has four hundred
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Speaker 3: and fifty five points. He has a two hundred and
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Speaker 3: twenty seven point lead over Peko banya who's third in
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Speaker 3: the championship. Peko Banyay for the season has two hundred
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Speaker 3: and twenty eight points. So Mark has almost doubled Banyai's
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Speaker 3: points scoring in fourteen rounds. And of all the things
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Speaker 3: that we thought were going to happen in twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 3: we thought it'd be like a gloves Orf fight between
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Speaker 3: those two for the World Championship. He's almost doubled his
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Speaker 3: score and we're not even two well, we're two thirds
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Speaker 3: of the way through the season.
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Speaker 4: Basically, it's absolutely astonishing.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Peko.
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Speaker 1: Let's move on to that, because you're the body language
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Speaker 1: expert here.
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Speaker 2: I'm not a.
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Speaker 1: Body language expert, but during Sunday's morning warm up, I
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Speaker 1: can tell that he was pissed.
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Speaker 3: Off massively, so interestingly, the body language expert, like, you've
12:53
Speaker 3: just officially given me that title. Now I might need
12:55
Speaker 3: to get a T shirt or something. But you know
12:56
Speaker 3: what's really interesting with Peco is that he as bad
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Speaker 3: as things get, he's usually his composure is the thing
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Speaker 3: that he keeps and you think of some of these
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Speaker 3: other riders when one tenth of the things go wrong,
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Speaker 3: but they've gone wrong for him this year. They'd be
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Speaker 3: breaking everything and throwing the toys out of the cotton.
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Speaker 3: You know, they have one bad race weekend and it's
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Speaker 3: the end of the world, and they're looking to try
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Speaker 3: and move Pedro Costo, so on and so forth. And
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Speaker 3: Pecko has kept his counsel for the most part of
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Speaker 3: the season, but even he has his limits. Pecko's someone
13:24
Speaker 3: who wants to understand why things are going wrong and
13:27
Speaker 3: then try and fix them. And because he still can't understand,
13:30
Speaker 3: and things are just going more wrong and more wrong
13:31
Speaker 3: and more wrong. Saturday was as dire of a day
13:36
Speaker 3: at the racetrack as a two time world championship could
13:39
Speaker 3: be imagined. Really, was it worst dry weather qualifying in
13:42
Speaker 3: three years. Absolutely Nowhere in the sprint. It was just
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Speaker 3: so desperately bad. It's bad enough in isolation, but then
13:50
Speaker 3: when you look at the fact that the guy on
13:52
Speaker 3: the sister bike on the other side of the garage
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Speaker 3: hasn't lost anything since May the twenty fifth, back at Silverstone,
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Speaker 3: it just twists knife that little bit further I think
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Speaker 3: what was interesting in the race on Sunday. I wonder
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Speaker 3: if he had sort of caught sight of the way
14:07
Speaker 3: that he was behaving on Saturday and the fact that
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Speaker 3: he looked so down about everything. He was almost over
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Speaker 3: correcting a bit on Sunday, and I thought his race
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Speaker 3: was decent on Sunday, and he said he felt better
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Speaker 3: and he'd found something. But it's almost like he was
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Speaker 3: going a little bit out of his way to try
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Speaker 3: and sell us on the fact that he was happier.
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Speaker 3: And I mean, we know this seasons are right off,
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Speaker 3: but I think we said this on the last episode.
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Speaker 3: This isn't about this season.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: It's like, can you get to the end of the
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Speaker 3: season and start the next one without being totally demoralized.
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Speaker 3: He's now working on twenty twenty six, six months early.
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Speaker 3: That's basically what it comes down to. But yeah, the
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Speaker 3: body language for someone who's normally so he's just so
14:41
Speaker 3: cool about things. Usually it's not that these unemotional. He's
14:44
Speaker 3: not robot, but he's usually very cool and composed, and
14:49
Speaker 3: you know there's a rationale behind the way he reacts,
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Speaker 3: and that just wasn't there on Saturday and early Sunday.
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Speaker 3: He looks genuinely he's gone from being perplexed to being
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Speaker 3: rattled because it's like, I'm doing everything thing I can
15:00
Speaker 3: to try and find a solution here and I still
15:02
Speaker 3: can't find one. It's going to be, I mean, the
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Speaker 3: next eight rounds. If he beats Marquez once, it'll be miracle,
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Speaker 3: Let's be honest. But how can he not fall further
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Speaker 3: into this sort of pit of despair for the next
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Speaker 3: eight rounds Because as bad as this year has been,
15:15
Speaker 3: we get to the start of next year, it's still
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Speaker 3: zero zero once we turn up for the first race
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Speaker 3: of the season. You can't let pass perforwarce dictate future potential.
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Speaker 3: And that's the spiral he risks going down right now
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Speaker 3: unless he can correct this.
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Speaker 1: Talking about the body language, I'm thinking back to Q
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Speaker 1: one on Saturday night, and I.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I've never ridden a Moto GP bike.
15:39
Speaker 1: I understand a little bit body language and coming from
15:41
Speaker 1: my brother, but I was watching Peco and to me,
15:46
Speaker 1: you just mentioned it that he was overriding this bike
15:50
Speaker 1: so much.
15:51
Speaker 2: It's like the rear just was not sticking down on
15:54
Speaker 2: the track at all.
15:54
Speaker 1: And he keeps saying about the front, but then it
15:57
Speaker 1: wasn't making sense to me. I'm going he looks lost,
16:01
Speaker 1: and I can see this just in a q ON session.
16:04
Speaker 1: I know he's trying to fight for those top two
16:07
Speaker 1: places to move on and actually get a decent grid position.
16:10
Speaker 1: But you could just see he was fighting that bike
16:14
Speaker 1: so hard this weekend.
16:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a bit of professional panics that are
16:17
Speaker 3: setting in right, like he's literally throwing anything at the
16:19
Speaker 3: war right now, just to hope that anything sticks, where
16:22
Speaker 3: his modus operandi usually is to all right, I don't
16:25
Speaker 3: understand this. I'm going to dig deeper and deeper and
16:27
Speaker 3: deeper into the data, and I'll work harder, and I'll
16:29
Speaker 3: find the thing we thought it had happened to Aragon.
16:32
Speaker 3: You remember when he fitted those the giant break discs
16:35
Speaker 3: on at Aragon, and that was sort of thought to
16:38
Speaker 3: be like the you know, the magic bullet that was
16:39
Speaker 3: going to get him back to where he was. He
16:41
Speaker 3: ran breaks that you would never normally run at Aragon.
16:44
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, I've got
16:45
Speaker 3: the front feeling that I haven't had all year. I
16:47
Speaker 3: feel really fast, this is all great, and so you're thinking, Okay,
16:51
Speaker 3: maybe that's the corner being turned, and he was very
16:54
Speaker 3: optimistic about that. Of course, I get to the next
16:55
Speaker 3: round at Magello. It yeah, it was Magello and where
16:58
Speaker 3: he's normally so good and he was nowhere so you
17:00
Speaker 3: go kick off the podium in.
17:01
Speaker 4: That Grand Prix.
17:02
Speaker 3: So it feels like he's just clutching at straws. Now,
17:06
Speaker 3: what's interesting is that we're talking about this last week
17:08
Speaker 3: with the Massano test coming up, and you know, would
17:11
Speaker 3: it be beneficial for him to get on a GP
17:13
Speaker 3: twenty four and try and find the feeling and at
17:15
Speaker 3: least be able to express that back for the twenty five.
17:17
Speaker 3: It sounds like that's not going to happen. It doesn't
17:19
Speaker 3: sound like he's going to ride the twenty four because
17:21
Speaker 3: it's not like he can race it, and rather than
17:24
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting in that, Yeah, you could go
17:26
Speaker 3: back and ride the twenty four and go, oh, this
17:27
Speaker 3: is like putting on a comfortable pair of shoes or whatever,
17:30
Speaker 3: like I love this, this is fantastic. But then if
17:32
Speaker 3: you can't use it, it's just going to make you
17:34
Speaker 3: more depressed about what you don't have, I guess. So
17:36
Speaker 3: you've got to try and work out what it is
17:37
Speaker 3: that you've got.
17:38
Speaker 4: What'll be more.
17:39
Speaker 3: Interesting is what they do next year with the nominally
17:42
Speaker 3: the GP twenty six. Does it become is the twenty
17:45
Speaker 3: six just an iteration and a development of the twenty
17:47
Speaker 3: five bike, or does it take aspects of the twenty
17:50
Speaker 3: four before they have to emuligate the thing and race
17:52
Speaker 3: it for the season. He's not going to get some
17:54
Speaker 3: sort of magic solution in the next eight rounds, but
17:57
Speaker 3: maybe getting on a GP twenty four at Massano might
17:59
Speaker 3: just confuse a bit more and almost make him lament
18:02
Speaker 3: a bit more like, Oh, I had this, I love
18:05
Speaker 3: this bike. I just can't ride this one. It's mostly
18:07
Speaker 3: between easy ears at this point, and there's just got
18:10
Speaker 3: to be a solution for riding this twenty five to
18:12
Speaker 3: some sort of standard, because well, there's one guy that
18:14
Speaker 3: seems to be doing a fairly good job of it.
18:16
Speaker 1: I was thinking over the weekend about like the rules
18:19
Speaker 1: and rags for next year, and I go, would it
18:21
Speaker 1: be possible for Mark to jump on the twenty six
18:26
Speaker 1: model bike if that's what they're going to call it,
18:28
Speaker 1: and for Peco to then jump back on a twenty
18:31
Speaker 1: four even though they're both on the factory team. Is
18:34
Speaker 1: there rules and rags.
18:35
Speaker 2: About that, do you know?
18:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, My understanding is they've got a home Allogate one chassis,
18:39
Speaker 3: so they can't be mixing and matching between So yes,
18:42
Speaker 3: you can have you know, remember last year the Grassini
18:44
Speaker 3: team were running twenty threes and so I think within
18:46
Speaker 3: the same team you can. But I think within a factory,
18:48
Speaker 3: I think you've got a home Alligate one. So do
18:51
Speaker 3: they come up with because clearly, you know, as much
18:53
Speaker 3: as Pico has struggled to ride this twenty five, it's
18:55
Speaker 3: the bike is going to win a World championship by
18:57
Speaker 3: an absolute mile. And this goes back to the what
19:00
Speaker 3: we've said about Marquez in the past, in that he
19:03
Speaker 3: wins the championship when he has the best bike. He
19:05
Speaker 3: also wins the championship when he doesn't have the best bike,
19:07
Speaker 3: and we saw this in Honda. There were many years
19:09
Speaker 3: towards the tail end of Honda where the bike probably
19:13
Speaker 3: wasn't the best and certain time of years the Yamaha
19:15
Speaker 3: is clearly better. He's the difference maker. So I think
19:19
Speaker 3: I think if you give Banyai the absolute sharpest instrument,
19:22
Speaker 3: let's say both of them are on the twenty fours
19:24
Speaker 3: this year, I still think Mark wins the championship, but
19:26
Speaker 3: I think Pecko runs it a hell of a lot closer.
19:28
Speaker 3: If the twenty five is not quite the iterative step
19:32
Speaker 3: that because the twenty four was renowned as being this
19:34
Speaker 3: incredible bike to ride. We've seen Alex Marquees has had
19:37
Speaker 3: his best ever season on that bike. We've seen Altager
19:40
Speaker 3: get podiums as a rookie on that bike. It's clearly
19:43
Speaker 3: the bike.
19:43
Speaker 4: To be on.
19:46
Speaker 3: You wonder what Mark could do on that bike if
19:48
Speaker 3: it was really that much superior. It doesn't even bear
19:50
Speaker 3: thinking about at this point. But I just think Vanyai,
19:54
Speaker 3: this is massive adversity for a guy who hasn't had
19:57
Speaker 3: a hell of a lot of adversity for the last
19:58
Speaker 3: four years. I mean, last year's abby hip loss was
20:01
Speaker 3: pretty much self inflicted. He was just too wasteful last year,
20:04
Speaker 3: too many DNFs. It was explainable. I think the hard
20:07
Speaker 3: part about twenty five for him is that it's not explainable,
20:10
Speaker 3: and that's the hardest part for him to get his
20:12
Speaker 3: head around.
20:13
Speaker 1: I think to county his blessings and to look at
20:15
Speaker 1: a positive for him this weekend was the fact that
20:17
Speaker 1: Alex and Jack got caught up in all that drama
20:20
Speaker 1: on Friday, which gave Peko Banyaya a couple grid plays
20:25
Speaker 1: places further up for Sundays Ron Prix. So he was
20:28
Speaker 1: a little bit further ahead in the middle of the field.
20:30
Speaker 1: But let's talk about Jack, because clearly just another difficult weekend.
20:36
Speaker 1: But it seems like it's kind of building up from
20:38
Speaker 1: the Thursday. Now there's all the talk of him for
20:40
Speaker 1: next year, in him giving the ultimatum and everything like that,
20:44
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Friday's caught up in
20:46
Speaker 1: that drama and I'm going, Jack, this isn't going to
20:49
Speaker 1: help you case here, like stop flaming other people. And
20:52
Speaker 1: then obviously a double crash on Sunday's Grand Prix.
20:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you can draw a line
20:58
Speaker 3: between Thursday and Friday to say that they're related. I'm
21:01
Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure that they were. He sort
21:02
Speaker 3: of got caught up on Friday with Fabio de Jen
21:07
Speaker 3: Antonio was a bit slow in front of Alex Marquez.
21:09
Speaker 3: Alex Markes was getting frustrating, rolled out, didn't realize that
21:12
Speaker 3: Jack was behind him.
21:13
Speaker 4: Jack was annoyed with Alex. He rolled out.
21:15
Speaker 3: Peco was behind the both of them, So it was
21:17
Speaker 3: one of those sort of domino effect things on the Friday,
21:20
Speaker 3: I think, with Thursday and Jack's little outburst in his
21:24
Speaker 3: press debrief. What was interesting about that was that it
21:27
Speaker 3: was right at the end of a fairly long debrief
21:29
Speaker 3: where he was talking about the bike and that Austria
21:31
Speaker 3: was a bit rubbish and what's the news going to
21:33
Speaker 3: be like and so on and so forth, and he
21:36
Speaker 3: was just answered, he answered in an almost offhand way,
21:39
Speaker 3: it's like any news about next year, Jack, you know,
21:41
Speaker 3: just someone just threw that in there. And it struck
21:44
Speaker 3: me and I guess we'll have to fill in with truth,
21:46
Speaker 3: serah and ask him this one day. It struck me
21:49
Speaker 3: that what he had to say on Friday was quite
21:51
Speaker 3: premeditated in that I don't think it was an off
21:53
Speaker 3: the cuff just responding to a question. I think he
21:57
Speaker 3: wanted to get his frustrations out there with the face
22:00
Speaker 3: that this thing was taking so long with Yamaha one
22:02
Speaker 3: way or the other, in an attempt to prod them
22:04
Speaker 3: for a response. And I think maybe the catalyst for
22:07
Speaker 3: that is we'd heard that Yogo Morrera had received offers
22:11
Speaker 3: from Yamaha and Honda and I think Jack was not
22:15
Speaker 3: so much accepting of that, but he understood. And it
22:17
Speaker 3: looked like ahead of last weekend that Marrera was leading
22:20
Speaker 3: towards going with Honda. It's a longer deal, it's factory
22:22
Speaker 3: writer status. It makes complete sense if you're morera you'd
22:25
Speaker 3: go to Honda right now than Yamaha, because Honda's really
22:28
Speaker 3: making progress and Yamaha's sort of spinning its wheels a bit.
22:31
Speaker 3: And then the man who Gonzales stuff sort of started
22:33
Speaker 3: in the background like, well, he come up to Murder
22:35
Speaker 3: GP with Yamaha, and Jack's at a point was like, well,
22:37
Speaker 3: would you like to put anyone else's name in the
22:39
Speaker 3: frame here instead of mine?
22:40
Speaker 4: For this thing?
22:42
Speaker 3: I've outperformed Miguel Olavera, my teammate, considerably over the course
22:46
Speaker 3: of the season. He has a contract with a break clause.
22:48
Speaker 3: I have a contract that runs to the end of
22:50
Speaker 3: the season. Are you just going to keep looking at
22:52
Speaker 3: other people and keeping me hanging here? Because the other
22:55
Speaker 3: domino here was there were no other seats in Murder GP.
22:58
Speaker 3: If he was going to go to World Super Likes,
23:00
Speaker 3: those teams could only wait for so long. And I
23:03
Speaker 3: think what you've seen over the past few days, Jack
23:05
Speaker 3: had his little outburst that I think was quite premeditated.
23:09
Speaker 3: He was a lot more calm over the course of
23:11
Speaker 3: the rest of the weekend. There was some vision of
23:13
Speaker 3: him and his manager Achieo coming out of a meeting
23:16
Speaker 3: with Yamahat management on Thursday. Jack was a lot more
23:19
Speaker 3: He just sort of played the line the rest of
23:21
Speaker 3: the course of the weekend. And then on the Monday,
23:23
Speaker 3: after the Sunday Grand Prix in Hungary, the Decadi World
23:26
Speaker 3: Superbikes team where Jack was being linked to for obvious reasons,
23:29
Speaker 3: they announced that Alvarro Batista is being replaced by Ikea Lekuona,
23:33
Speaker 3: so that seat's gone. And Olivera was speaking on Sunday
23:37
Speaker 3: after his best result of the year actually in Hungary,
23:39
Speaker 3: saying that he's not ready to be a test writing yet,
23:41
Speaker 3: so he's kind of acknowledged that he's out. So he
23:44
Speaker 3: starts stacking all these stories together and there's an obvious
23:47
Speaker 3: conclusion here. And I think, you know, it's Tuesday evening
23:51
Speaker 3: as we talk about this Australian time. I would imagine
23:54
Speaker 3: that before the next Grand Prix, Jack gets the news
23:56
Speaker 3: that he's been looking for. But I thought what he
23:58
Speaker 3: did on Thursday. Was you know, you told me this
24:01
Speaker 3: was going to be sorted by before the mid season
24:03
Speaker 3: break at Bruno. It's a month later. I've gone and
24:06
Speaker 3: done Suzuka for you. I'm hearing all.
24:08
Speaker 4: These other names.
24:09
Speaker 3: What is actually going on here to try and prod
24:12
Speaker 3: them into a response, and I'm sure this is on
24:15
Speaker 3: your run sheheet. We haven't talked about this, but the
24:17
Speaker 3: fact that Yamaha is now going to race this V
24:19
Speaker 3: four as soon as Massano, I actually think that's a
24:23
Speaker 3: pretty significant factor in Jack staying for next season because
24:28
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine them trying to get a V four
24:31
Speaker 3: project off the ground when your rider lineup is Fabio
24:33
Speaker 3: Quadroro awesome, Alex Rinn's broken, absolutely no results, Top brack
24:38
Speaker 3: Rasctalioglu rookie, Diogo Marera rookie or whoever a man who
24:42
Speaker 3: Gonzales rookie. That's not a line up to me that's
24:46
Speaker 3: going to be great in developing a brand new project
24:50
Speaker 3: for Yamaha while they're also juggling twenty twenty seven and
24:54
Speaker 3: the rule changes coming in there. So this is a
24:56
Speaker 3: job description that requires an experience head who's got a
24:59
Speaker 3: lot of VIA V four experience, and the experience head
25:02
Speaker 3: with the V four experience is Jack Miller.
25:05
Speaker 2: It was kind of scary also for a while.
25:07
Speaker 1: And I don't know we had it last year to
25:08
Speaker 1: think that we wouldn't have an Aussie on the Moto
25:11
Speaker 1: GP grid. And you know, we're trying to bring MotoGP
25:14
Speaker 1: here to a bigger audience, We're trying to get more
25:16
Speaker 1: people involved. To think that Jack, who's such Alarican and everything,
25:20
Speaker 1: it has this brand that everyone knows of him to
25:23
Speaker 1: him not be on the grid. But then I also
25:26
Speaker 1: think of him as the athlete, going how stressful this
25:29
Speaker 1: must be as well, because you've had a difficult weekend
25:32
Speaker 1: in Austria. Difficult weekend again, You're dealing with all the pressure,
25:37
Speaker 1: the rumors, everything, no wonder He shared his thoughts on Thursday,
25:41
Speaker 1: like it.
25:41
Speaker 3: Makes yeah, yeah, it makes sense. And there's two other
25:44
Speaker 3: factors here. I think we had Simon Patterson on the
25:46
Speaker 3: other week talking about the Liberty media era of MotoGP.
25:49
Speaker 3: He is the biggest English speaking personality we have on
25:52
Speaker 3: this grid by right now, by an absolute mile. I'm
25:56
Speaker 3: not sure Liberty would be super keen on Jack being
25:59
Speaker 3: off the greed that was going to be what happened.
26:01
Speaker 3: The other factor to remember here and I checked this
26:03
Speaker 3: before we got on the Australian Grand Prix, and he
26:06
Speaker 3: has a contract at Philip Island until the end of
26:08
Speaker 3: next year's event, so end of twenty six, there's two
26:11
Speaker 3: more years on the current deal and the thought of
26:14
Speaker 3: having to go and recent renegotiate that contract potentially without
26:17
Speaker 3: Australian writer on the grid in a Liberty Media era
26:20
Speaker 3: Motor GP that's going forward. That's a really interesting fork
26:23
Speaker 3: in the road. And we know that Jack is You know,
26:27
Speaker 3: Jack feels a very specific development need for Yamaha right now.
26:30
Speaker 3: He's not the right rider for every vacancy on the grid.
26:33
Speaker 3: I think he's the right rider for this vacancy, but
26:36
Speaker 3: I also don't think it's going to be a vacancy
26:39
Speaker 3: that necessarily lasts all that long. We might be having
26:41
Speaker 3: the same conversation this time next year.
26:43
Speaker 4: I don't know.
26:44
Speaker 3: But for the time being, he feels like the right
26:46
Speaker 3: man for the job description that's being advertised, and there'll
26:49
Speaker 3: come a point in twelve months or twenty four months
26:52
Speaker 3: or whatever it is where he might not fit what
26:54
Speaker 3: they need anymore and Yamaha might need something different. So
26:57
Speaker 3: to my mind, it's Jack's last motor GP stop while
27:00
Speaker 3: he manages to fulfill the need that they have from him.
27:03
Speaker 3: And the truest sign of whether he's actually done his
27:05
Speaker 3: job well will be if Yamaha improves to the point
27:08
Speaker 3: where they're more competitive with Honda and then starting to
27:10
Speaker 3: edge up towards the other manufacturers. Then that's almost like, thanks, Jack,
27:13
Speaker 3: you've done what we needed you to do. Let's shake
27:15
Speaker 3: hands and you know, right off into this into the
27:18
Speaker 3: sunset in different directions, because that's probably going to be
27:20
Speaker 3: best for Yamaha, and probably best for him at that point,
27:23
Speaker 3: because he'll be thirty one, thirty two years old. He's
27:26
Speaker 3: had a very good run, and I think that feels
27:28
Speaker 3: like a more natural conclusion than it concluding this year.
27:31
Speaker 1: No, completely completely agree. I think I brought up on
27:36
Speaker 1: last week's pot. I think about the fact that the
27:38
Speaker 1: V four and I said I didn't want it to
27:40
Speaker 1: be ran out MATEGI where they normally have their test
27:43
Speaker 1: writer is.
27:44
Speaker 3: So, and it's the power you've got is you just
27:46
Speaker 3: find Yamaha and say bring it forward.
27:48
Speaker 2: Bring it forward.
27:49
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I did. I just gave them a
27:51
Speaker 1: quick cool note when I thought. I saw the announcement
27:53
Speaker 1: made I thought, good on you guys. And the fact
27:56
Speaker 1: that they're bringing it to sat Marino.
27:58
Speaker 2: They know there's a test.
27:59
Speaker 1: After wold they're bringing it early or Gusto Fernandez, Ok,
28:02
Speaker 1: he's a few filling rise this year. I think it's
28:05
Speaker 1: what we need. We just need this question answered.
28:08
Speaker 3: We need to know the FEF going to be like, yeah, yeah,
28:11
Speaker 3: we need to know. And if I'm being a little
28:13
Speaker 3: bit uncharitable, which is pretty much the way I roll,
28:15
Speaker 3: let's be honest, maybe if you bring it to Masado
28:18
Speaker 3: and it doesn't go super well, it's better than debuting
28:21
Speaker 3: it at Motigi in front of all of the Abaha's
28:23
Speaker 3: banishment and it doesn't go super well. That would be
28:25
Speaker 3: slightly embarrassing. So at least they've given themselves an extra
28:28
Speaker 3: round ahead of time. And like you said, then, I
28:30
Speaker 3: think the key thing the fact that test is the
28:32
Speaker 3: day after the Grand Prix, where presumably all the regular
28:35
Speaker 3: writers will have a crack on it as well, because
28:37
Speaker 3: Squaaterero is, you know, probably chomping at the bid to
28:40
Speaker 3: have a go at this thing at this point. So
28:42
Speaker 3: it makes a lot of sense. But I'm just impressed
28:44
Speaker 3: with the fact that you can just get Palo Vivessio
28:46
Speaker 3: on the phone say look, come on, what are we
28:47
Speaker 3: doing here? This is the power of the pit Talk podcast.
28:50
Speaker 3: You just put a requested and things happen.
28:52
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, that's just how it goes
28:54
Speaker 1: here in Australia.
28:55
Speaker 3: Just just just a real subtle flex by you, isn't it.
28:59
Speaker 1: I'm kidding listeners, this is not what happens. But you know, yamaha,
29:03
Speaker 1: if you do listen to the Pit Top pod, then
29:04
Speaker 1: you know for sure, me and Matt we'd love to
29:06
Speaker 1: come and be a guest in the garage of Phil.
29:08
Speaker 3: Sure, just just give it, just give us the appropriate
29:10
Speaker 3: credit when you when things go well, that's fun.
29:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly.
29:14
Speaker 1: Talking about things going well, Besendigitia, want to touch on
29:18
Speaker 1: this both riders from Q one onto the front row?
29:22
Speaker 1: Can you believe that?
29:23
Speaker 4: Amazing?
29:23
Speaker 3: And how was the degen Antonio Q one story in
29:27
Speaker 3: that he set the precise lap time that Brad Binder
29:31
Speaker 3: set in Q one to the thousandths of a second
29:33
Speaker 3: and managed to get the second berth from Q one
29:36
Speaker 3: into Q two because his second best lap of the
29:38
Speaker 3: session was faster. He then goes and sticks it on
29:41
Speaker 3: the front row and he then gets a sprint podium,
29:44
Speaker 3: finishing second behind Mark marqueerrez All because his second best
29:47
Speaker 3: lap in Q one got him through to Q two
29:50
Speaker 3: and that he capitalized on it from there. Kind of
29:52
Speaker 3: amazing how these things work out. And Brad Binder, we
29:54
Speaker 3: saw him at the back end of the top ten,
29:56
Speaker 3: but no better than that. One of the disappointing things
29:58
Speaker 3: I reckon about Sunday was the fact we never really
30:00
Speaker 3: got to see what did you could do on Sunday
30:02
Speaker 3: because he had that electronics issue and had to go
30:05
Speaker 3: to the spare bike and his race was pretty much shot.
30:08
Speaker 3: I would have been super interested to see he was
30:10
Speaker 3: clearly the second Besty Caddy all weekend, and I would
30:13
Speaker 3: have been curious to see where he fit in with
30:15
Speaker 3: that Acosta Bezeki sort of crew up the front. VR
30:20
Speaker 3: forty sixty. Caddy afterwards said that on race pace they
30:23
Speaker 3: thought he would have finished fourth. So it's a lot
30:25
Speaker 3: better than finishing fifteenth, which is where he finished. But yeah,
30:28
Speaker 3: how was that to the thousandths of a second in
30:30
Speaker 3: qualifying and that ends up on the front row because
30:32
Speaker 3: of it?
30:32
Speaker 4: That was an incredible.
30:33
Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes honestly, qualifying this weekend was really fascinating, just
30:39
Speaker 1: the fact, you know, Peco struggling. We don't want that,
30:41
Speaker 1: but to see him and so many big names in
30:44
Speaker 1: q on and then obviously Bes and Digi and I
30:47
Speaker 1: kind of expected it from Bezel going. I almost thought
30:50
Speaker 1: for him and it is he going to get pol?
30:52
Speaker 2: Could he do this? Can he do the best weekend?
30:55
Speaker 1: Yeah?
30:55
Speaker 4: He did the same in Austria.
30:56
Speaker 3: But again another thing that I'm sure it's on your
30:59
Speaker 3: run shit, And I'm to talk about this. Marco Betzeki's
31:03
Speaker 3: teammate was pretty damned good in Hungary on the weekend,
31:06
Speaker 3: wasn't he?
31:07
Speaker 2: That's what I was just about to talk about. Mate
31:09
Speaker 2: took the words out of my mouth.
31:10
Speaker 1: Joege Martin p sixteen to pee four. Can you believe
31:16
Speaker 1: that the emotion that you saw from him when he
31:20
Speaker 1: came back in the whole team, just that the tears,
31:24
Speaker 1: the emotion, Wow, you could just feel it through the screen.
31:29
Speaker 3: If you want to go and watch ninety seconds of
31:31
Speaker 3: awesome on boards, go and watch Jorge Martin's first lap.
31:33
Speaker 3: I don't know whether you've done it yet. He went
31:35
Speaker 3: from sixteenth to seventh on lap one and watching him
31:39
Speaker 3: pick his way through those opening four or five corners.
31:42
Speaker 3: I think he'd overtaken seven people before the time we
31:44
Speaker 3: got to turn five on lap one. It was absolutely spectacular.
31:48
Speaker 3: He took the outside line into turn one and then
31:51
Speaker 3: was just in this. Oh there's a gap, someone's gone
31:53
Speaker 3: wide here, someone's been pushed there. I'm going here. It
31:55
Speaker 3: was spectacularly done. And the thing for me he finished
32:00
Speaker 3: three point two seconds behind his teammate who started fourteen
32:05
Speaker 3: places ahead of him on the grid, and that I
32:08
Speaker 3: don't think Juge Martin's back back Capitol back yet. But
32:13
Speaker 3: this is his fourth Grand Prix of the year. Remember
32:15
Speaker 3: and remember the first one he ended up with eleven
32:17
Speaker 3: fractured ribs and a collapse lung in hospital. So he's
32:19
Speaker 3: basically done three Grand Prix in a row. He has
32:22
Speaker 3: come a really long way, really really quickly. He still
32:26
Speaker 3: can't work out the whole one lap thing.
32:28
Speaker 1: That.
32:28
Speaker 3: Do you realize that he was seventeenth on the grid.
32:30
Speaker 3: That's his worst ever Motor GP qualify. I went back
32:33
Speaker 3: and looked at that and went, goodness to me, like
32:34
Speaker 3: eighty odd races since twenty twenty one, so lowest he's
32:37
Speaker 3: ever qualified. He was awesome on Sunday, and you think
32:41
Speaker 3: how far he's come, how fast. It was only a
32:44
Speaker 3: month ago he was back in a race situation for
32:46
Speaker 3: the first time. We know the Aprili is good, We've
32:49
Speaker 3: seen that for the past five or six rounds and
32:52
Speaker 3: Bazeki's been great. This is like twenty twenty three bez
32:54
Speaker 3: all over again.
32:56
Speaker 4: But hand on hard.
32:56
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's watching thinking that he's the same
32:58
Speaker 3: class of rider as Hall, fully Fit, Firing, or hey Martin.
33:02
Speaker 3: And you think at the moment, the one thing Martine's
33:04
Speaker 3: famous for is just these absolutely volcanic pole position laps.
33:09
Speaker 3: We were like, my god, what is that lap where
33:11
Speaker 3: he You look at the sector times and he's six
33:13
Speaker 3: tenths up on his best lap in Q two. He
33:15
Speaker 3: hasn't even found that yet. He's coming along really, really quickly,
33:20
Speaker 3: and there's eight rounds to go. I've written a piece
33:24
Speaker 3: on Tuesday for Fox sports dot com dot are you
33:26
Speaker 3: wondering who's going to be the person that stops the
33:28
Speaker 3: Marquez winning run? Like when will Mark actually.
33:30
Speaker 4: Lose a race?
33:31
Speaker 3: For the back end of this season, there's some good
33:33
Speaker 3: Martine tracks coming up. There's a couple of good apriller
33:36
Speaker 3: tracks coming up. It would not surprise me if Mark
33:40
Speaker 3: rattles off another couple of perfect weekends. The one guy
33:42
Speaker 3: that might beat him before the end of the season.
33:44
Speaker 3: We know his championship defense is in the bin. On
33:47
Speaker 3: his day at even seventy five percent fit or hey,
33:50
Speaker 3: Martin could beat Mark Marquez this year. I could see
33:52
Speaker 3: it happening at certain circuits because you're looking at the
33:55
Speaker 3: rest of the pack and you're saying, well, who else
33:57
Speaker 3: is going to short of Mark actually making a mistake
34:00
Speaker 3: like he has a couple of rounds this year. He's
34:02
Speaker 3: not fully back yet, Juge Martin. But man, there was
34:05
Speaker 3: some stuff on the weekend where you're just watching him,
34:07
Speaker 3: was thinking, you forget just how combative and how feisty
34:11
Speaker 3: this guy is and how fast he is, and you know,
34:14
Speaker 3: at a track where you can't overtake here apparently, and
34:18
Speaker 3: he's gained twelve positions from where he started. I think
34:22
Speaker 3: he sort of threw that theory in the bin. But oh,
34:25
Speaker 3: he was good to watch, and you do wonder what's
34:27
Speaker 3: coming up, like Barcelona good at Prillier track, right, So
34:31
Speaker 3: that's going to be one to watch And I just
34:33
Speaker 3: hope that he's more accustomed to what he's writing, and
34:36
Speaker 3: he's back towards full fitness. Because Martin and Philip Island
34:38
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite things to watch, particularly in qualifying.
34:41
Speaker 3: He is awesome around there over one lab. We know
34:44
Speaker 3: how good Mark is a Philip Island too, So sign
34:47
Speaker 3: me up if we get another head to head with
34:48
Speaker 3: those two, because that was fun last year, be even
34:50
Speaker 3: more fun this year given what's happened to both of them.
34:52
Speaker 1: Since I think quote of the year on this pod
34:55
Speaker 1: is you saying Martin's going to win a race this year,
34:58
Speaker 1: Let's do it. I think we're just going to ca
35:00
Speaker 1: it out now. So when that happens, will you heard
35:02
Speaker 1: it here first? Yamaha, heard it here first? And you're
35:05
Speaker 1: predicting juge Martine's twenty twenty five made in Grand Prix victory.
35:09
Speaker 3: And the best part about that is if it doesn't happen,
35:11
Speaker 3: I will never mention it again, and so it'll just
35:14
Speaker 3: be it'll just disappear into the podcast e through and
35:16
Speaker 3: no whatever has to discuss this. So either way, I
35:18
Speaker 3: think I'm winning this one.
35:20
Speaker 1: I mean, all the listeners, you'll all forget about it.
35:24
Speaker 4: I'll distract you with something else.
35:27
Speaker 1: So it was a pretty interesting weekend for Moto GP
35:31
Speaker 1: and if we were to move on to Moto two,
35:33
Speaker 1: unfortunately our was he center age is when we recorded
35:36
Speaker 1: the pod, it wasn't announced that it wasn't complete competing
35:40
Speaker 1: and then I press record, Sorry, I pressed upload.
35:44
Speaker 3: Pod was up there.
35:46
Speaker 1: Next minute I see the notification he was replaced by
35:48
Speaker 1: Sogio Guscia. So fingers crossed and is making a good
35:51
Speaker 1: recovery and he will be back for Barcelona in a
35:54
Speaker 1: couple weeks time. But let's move on to Moto three.
35:58
Speaker 1: Great qualify result for Jacob, I think the boost that
36:02
Speaker 1: he needed. But once again, overall tough weekend for the Aussies.
36:08
Speaker 1: Jack Jack Jack Joel says on his socials that he
36:12
Speaker 1: just just did not feel comfortable by the looks of it.
36:17
Speaker 3: It was it was one of those weekends where because
36:19
Speaker 3: nobody had any familiarity with this place. Normally you can
36:22
Speaker 3: go back and say, oh, I've raced in the CV here,
36:24
Speaker 3: or I've done Moto three here. If you're a Moto
36:26
Speaker 3: two it was the blankest sheet of paper possible, so
36:29
Speaker 3: it was interesting to see who was able to get
36:31
Speaker 3: to grips with it faster.
36:32
Speaker 4: Than not.
36:33
Speaker 3: Jacob Rolston quick over one lap, like you said, faded
36:36
Speaker 3: in the race again. His teammates looking pretty awesome at
36:38
Speaker 3: the moment, Peroni, that's for sure.
36:40
Speaker 4: And then Joel.
36:41
Speaker 3: You know, I still don't think Joel's anywhere dear fit
36:44
Speaker 3: after what happened in the Netherlands. He's still sort of
36:46
Speaker 3: recovering a little bit from that, but just didn't quite
36:48
Speaker 3: seem to gel for him this weekend. So yeah, definitely
36:51
Speaker 3: a tough race weekend for the Aussies all up. You
36:55
Speaker 3: know when you think no center and Jack had a
36:57
Speaker 3: couple of crashes on Sunday, but Race of the night, well,
37:01
Speaker 3: last three laps of the night David Alozzo and this
37:05
Speaker 3: kid is I love everything about the way he conducts himself.
37:10
Speaker 3: He looks like he's having the best day of his
37:11
Speaker 3: life every single day. Is super cool to watch. If
37:14
Speaker 3: this guy doesn't have Motor GP superstar written all over
37:18
Speaker 3: him in about three to four years, he's got absolutely everything.
37:21
Speaker 3: He's got the sound bites. He's amazing at the end
37:24
Speaker 3: of races for a guy who's got no experience on
37:27
Speaker 3: a motor two bike whatsoever. He's one of those guys
37:30
Speaker 3: in three to four years time we're doing the podcast,
37:34
Speaker 3: of course we'll be talking about him as being a
37:36
Speaker 3: Motor GP front running rider because he just ticks every box,
37:39
Speaker 3: doesn't he have a young guy you see coming through
37:41
Speaker 3: this is like a Coster, but maybe even a little
37:44
Speaker 3: bit more polished.
37:45
Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious the fact that he's a Marquez
37:48
Speaker 1: protege along with Killers, and I think these are the
37:51
Speaker 1: two riders who are like dominating or I mean, obviously
37:54
Speaker 1: the ones has taken a little bit longer to get
37:56
Speaker 1: back to the front as he's meeting. If you guys
38:00
Speaker 1: don't watch Moto two, go back and watch even just
38:03
Speaker 1: watch those last three laps. Like Mart was saying, we
38:05
Speaker 1: were messaging on our work chat, going, oh.
38:08
Speaker 2: My god, look at David. Is he gonna do it? Oh,
38:10
Speaker 2: he's gonna do it. He's gonna be a Moto GP.
38:13
Speaker 1: Like this kid's the next alien and he's phenomenal. And
38:16
Speaker 1: I just always think of hashtag baby goat.
38:19
Speaker 3: It's a great hashtag. I do love it. And he
38:23
Speaker 3: looks like he just looks like a little kid. He's
38:24
Speaker 3: the proper baby face assassin. I'm not sure if he's
38:26
Speaker 3: still got the braces and the band's going unlock he
38:29
Speaker 3: was doing in Moto three last year. But he looks
38:31
Speaker 3: like the nicest young kid imaginable. And then once the
38:34
Speaker 3: visor goes down and he twists the throttle, he's an
38:36
Speaker 3: absolute animal. And the best part about the end of
38:39
Speaker 3: that Moto II race was probably five laps to go.
38:41
Speaker 3: You just thought, oh, yeah, he's gonna win this. Watch this,
38:44
Speaker 3: and you know, Marera, we know he's super super feisty,
38:47
Speaker 3: and Gonzales is leading the championship and he's not going
38:49
Speaker 3: to get pushed around, and there was just an inevitability
38:52
Speaker 3: to him winning the race. He's got it. Whatever that
38:54
Speaker 3: thing is, that indefinable thing that separates the great from
38:58
Speaker 3: the merely very good, he's got And yeah, Moto GP
39:02
Speaker 3: Star of the future, looking forward to that.
39:04
Speaker 2: I'm very much looking forward to that as well. Well.
39:08
Speaker 1: That pretty much wraps up our Ballaton Park review. Matt,
39:11
Speaker 1: you excited for MotoGP to come back here next year?
39:16
Speaker 4: Uh, CBC.
39:17
Speaker 3: Let's see if we can remove Let's see if we
39:19
Speaker 3: can have movie like two Less Chicanes, and then Ye'll
39:22
Speaker 3: get back to you.
39:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, two Less Chicanes. Maybe Acosta not throwing his bike
39:26
Speaker 1: at a cameraman and I'm hopefully not a Moto E
39:28
Speaker 1: rider knocking himself out on the sidelines, which was crazy.
39:32
Speaker 1: I messaged Kiko Giles, the commentator for that and said,
39:37
Speaker 1: well done because that was a scary moment. Another big
39:40
Speaker 1: gas for me on the side of the sofa. But
39:42
Speaker 1: that's okay because Moto GP has one weekend off and
39:45
Speaker 1: then we are back at the Circuit de Barcelona, Catalonia,
39:49
Speaker 1: that iconic circuit that kind of looks like a crab
39:52
Speaker 1: if you look at it long way. But like I said,
39:56
Speaker 1: prity have been strong here in the past. Mark Marquez's
39:59
Speaker 1: home track because we know he's born not that far away,
40:03
Speaker 1: but also it's I guess home track for the Spargaro brothers,
40:06
Speaker 1: Paula Spargo. Can we just talk about him quickly before oh,
40:09
Speaker 1: wrap this up, because I just remembered for a test rider, man,
40:14
Speaker 1: he does good, doesn't He's constantly in that top ten.
40:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
40:18
Speaker 3: I think he's I think he thought he might have
40:20
Speaker 3: been done with racing and he's got back and been
40:22
Speaker 3: so competitive. He was good at Bruno, really good this
40:25
Speaker 3: weekend in Hungary as well. There's still a lot more
40:27
Speaker 3: to give for him and we know that he's a
40:29
Speaker 3: family man these days, juggling you know, does commentary for
40:32
Speaker 3: his own kids and what have you. Maybe he needs,
40:34
Speaker 3: like I don't know, a World Superbike sort of type
40:37
Speaker 3: calendar rather than twenty two rounds about a GP, but
40:40
Speaker 3: certainly hasn't got any slower, has he.
40:42
Speaker 1: Well that's the rumors coming out now that he's like
40:45
Speaker 1: talking about he'd be interested in a World Superbike ride,
40:48
Speaker 1: which I think would be exciting because it's Paul and
40:52
Speaker 1: the fact that he's coming back and doing top ten finishes.
40:55
Speaker 1: So sorry, I digress, guys, if if we're wrapping this
40:58
Speaker 1: one up and we had to talk about Paul Spargo,
41:00
Speaker 1: but yes, we are back Barcelona next weekend. Can Mark
41:03
Speaker 1: Marquez breakaway? Can Alex Marquez have a stronger weekend so
41:07
Speaker 1: Mark doesn't wrap up that title in San Marino? We
41:11
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