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Who Was This Jesus? · Urantia Radio

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  Welcome to another edition of the Rancho Radio podcast.
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  My name is Jim Watkins. I'm a long time reader and host
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  And we'll get underway in a moment with our episode Who Was
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  This Jesus on the Rancher Radio podcast.
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  Well, it's the reason for the season.
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  That's right. So I want to spend some time
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  talking about what the Urantia book says and tells us about the
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  Son of God and the Son of Man known as of course, Jesus of
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  Nazareth. And in perhaps shed a little bit
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  of light on the difference between what the Christian
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  portrayal of Christ is in the Urantia book portrayal.
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  They're not completely on alike at all, as you will see, and in
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  fact, one actually enhances the appreciation for the other.
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  Someone who emails me from time to time here on the Rancho Radio
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  podcast is he sent me an e-mail. He says I don't want to bother
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  you, but just for fun. He wanted to find out how how
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  much Jesus walked and he found this little nugget, which I
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  think is interesting. I never really think about well,
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  how much did Jesus actually walk?
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  Because that's what he did for most of his adult life is, you
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  know, he would walk literally from country to country.
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  And he, he used Chat GPC to determine from his particular
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  paper think it's 134 when he left Mount Hermon and then
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  headed to Jerusalem and then returned to Galilee.
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  And this took place between September 15th, 25AD and January
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  26th AD according to the Urantia book.
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  So they with the use of ChatGPT, he was able to determine that
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  Jesus walked 14 miles on one day, 26 miles on another day, 43
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  miles on the third day, 38 miles on the 4th day, A1 mile on the
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  5th day, another mile on the 6th day.
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  So he must have been in Jerusalem.
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  Then he proceeded to walk back to Galilee, 50 miles on day 7
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  and 31 miles. So he walked approximately 209
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  miles in one week, a little more than a week.
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  And that's just one snapshot. Imagine how much he walked when
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  he made his trip to Rome and, and how much time he spent on
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  the boat too, for months with Ganid and Ganad during that
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  whole narrative. And anyway, it's just
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  interesting and thank you so much.
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  I, I love hearing from the people who listen to the
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  podcast. It's really wonderful to have
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  you there. And gosh, I want to do a shout
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  out to my friends over at Center for Unity.
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  They've got some really great stuff going on, all kinds of
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  really good websites that that allow more of a user
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  interaction. If you could ask questions about
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  the Urantia book, for example, I wanted to know where the root
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  word of Marancha and, and it gave me the answers.
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  It's just there's so many resources that they offer with
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  all the different apps that they have.
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  So the Center for unity.org, the Center for unity.org Anyway, so
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  let's talk about how the Urantia Book portrays Christ because one
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  of the things that amazes me is why more Christians aren't
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  attracted to the Christianity that is offered in the Urantia
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  book. And people say, well, it's not a
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  Christian book. Well, to the average onlooker,
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  the Urantia Book looks like a Christian book.
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  A third of it is dedicated to the life and teachings of
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  Christ. Over 700 pages, right?
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  So you would think that if you read the first 3 and you didn't
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  read the fourth book, you wouldn't think it was a
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  Christian document. You would think it was some kind
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  of new age religion, right? That's how most people portray
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  it. That's how much people in their
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  first impression even. And I, and I say this as a mild
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  criticism, even a lot of the artwork that my Urantia book
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  readers create. And I'm not talking about the
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  work that Gary Tong does, because that's on a level that's
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  way up here. He, he has done some incredible
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  artwork for the Urantia movement.
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  But I'm talking about the way that people design portfolios,
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  the way they use color schemes on, on their websites, Very
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  flowery. And, and even some of the, some
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  of the stuff that they're using to create AI artwork.
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  It, it has that ring of new age Ness to it, which, you know, it
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  could be a mild criticism because I think people today are
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  so pragmatic about what where they put their alliances and
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  they are very, they see religion as being toxic.
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  So toxic in fact, that 40% of America has given up on
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  religion. And as the Christianity claims,
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  we're all endowed by the spirit of our creator, that father
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  fragment that lives within us, the spirit light that lighteth
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  every man, as it says right? Then why wouldn't they feel the
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  urge or the need to believe in something higher than
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  themselves? And the answer to that is more
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  simple than you probably imagine.
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  It's because they've been raised to believe it and they've been
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  brainwashed to believe that religion is anti science.
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  And they also, if you read, I think it's in, I want to say
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  paper too, there's a quote that says the farther you are away
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  from Havona, the less perfect the universe is.
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  Havona is, of course, the perfect universe, the first
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  universe. So Havona is a perfect
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  representation of a universe that is divine in all manners,
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  all matter, always. The farther away you move away
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  from that, the less perfect the universe is, because the rest of
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  the universe is in an evolutionary progression.
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  It's evolving towards perfection.
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  What I'm saying is for us, we live on a planet that is on the
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  outskirts or an outpost so far out that we're almost at the
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  edge. And if Havona is the center of
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  all things and is a the expression of divine perfection,
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  and it's that imperfection where we fail to see divinity.
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  The farther you are away from God, the more imperfection you
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  see in in the universe, particularly in the way that
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  people behave. I want to share with you what
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  it's like living in North Korea right now.
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  I started this podcast because of the atrocities that were
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  going on in China back in 20/16/2017.
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  That's what actually inspired me because it had, it had dawned on
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  me that a billion people, despite 100 years of communism,
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  are still willing to die for their beliefs.
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  That that just was such a profound thing.
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  And I thought you cannot kill the human spirit.
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  And the Urantia book says there is no chance of people becoming
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  less religious. But this, this illustrates just
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  how how powerful religion is. And this is an article which is
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  entitled North Korea on Religion, Prison Work Camp or
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  Execution of Believers. The North Korean regime has
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  recently boasted that had won the war against religion, even
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  as a new human rights report shows.
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  In questioning 15,000 people who have managed to escape from
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  North Korea, 99.6% said that there is no such thing as free
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  religious practice. It's bad, it's so bad in that
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  country. Christians have long been
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  targeted because Kim and there his regime views religion as a
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  direct threat to its power and as evidence of foreign
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  influence. Anyone caught praying,
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  possessing a Bible, or meeting for worship is labeled part of a
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  hostile class and risks imprisonment, torture or
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  execution. Protestants and Catholics are
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  sent straight to political prison camps without RE
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  education, and entire families can be punished for three
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  generations under the regime's total control zone.
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  Returnees who encounter Christianity abroad or watch
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  closely, and those who engage in religious activity after
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  returning home are immediately arrested.
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  Despite the severe danger, small pockets of fate persists.
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  Some N Koreans still pray alone or in tiny secret groups,
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  maintaining belief quietly and in isolation because open
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  worship is impossible, according to the report North Korea youth
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  now limiter 3. Competing pressures, state
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  indoctrination, forbidden foreign culture in a quiet
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  search for meaning through superstition or hidden faith.
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  I I I mentioned to you that in the West the belief in God is
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  waning. It's down by 3040% in America
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  and probably 6070% in England and maybe somewhere else,
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  although I think Germany is probably more religious than the
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  state would have you believe. They've held on to their faith
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  as people have in Hungary and Poland, sort of Eastern Eastern
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  European countries seem to have more faith of those who had
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  experienced communism. And these people are paying a
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  real heavy price. And it's a real tragedy and it's
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  a real travesty. And that's why there are so many
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  people turning to agnosticism. And I I suspected within a few
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  years the Bible will be considered a highly
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  controversial book because our secular society, it's in our
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  education, they're downplaying the importance of faith.
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  Core to the Christian teaching is this interesting fellow named
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  Jesus. And Jesus is portrayed as the
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  Son of man and the Son of God in, in Scripture.
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  He is the Redeemer. He paid the price for man's sin.
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  It's going all the way back to Adam and Eve.
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  And of course, these the are the abbreviated stories as we're
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  taught in Bible school on Sunday.
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  And in the Urantia book, of course, these stories are
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  expanded much farther beyond so that you have a sort of a
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  contextual approach to what's what actually did happen.
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  For. For example, we know that Adam
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  and Eve did default, and this led to a disruption in the
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  Adamic mission, which is to uplift humanity both spiritually
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  and physically over a period of time.
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  We would be a lot farther along. Adam and Eve may still be here,
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  and we would be learning from this high culture that would
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  have existed somewhere in the Middle East.
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  All that went away and for 35,000 years there was kind of a
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  darkness as the progeny of Adam and Eve went out into the world.
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  We saw this weekend, I was watching this in Glenn Beck of
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  all people had an interview talking about the Book of Enoch.
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  And in the Book of Enoch, which is where Michael or Christ got
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  the term Son of Man, Enoch talks a lot about the Nephilim, the
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  watchers. And of course, we know from the
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  Urantia book that those were the Nodites.
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  That was the prince's staff from hundreds of thousands of years
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  ago that went into rebellion. So there's a little bit of truth
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  in that story from Genesis as well.
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  All very interesting and very fascinating.
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  But I want to get to this person, this person that we
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  celebrate his birth on December 25th, that billions of people
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  around the world, like the people in North Korea, like the
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  people who are in places like Nigeria where Christians are
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  being slaughtered because they believe in this man named Jesus
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  who was the Redeemer and who gave them salvation.
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  And they feel compelled through the spirit of truth to pay
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  homage and honor to the Son of man who spoke on behalf of the
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  Father. Now the Urantia book is not so
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  different. Let me read to you from Paper 21
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  on the Paradise Creator sons. This is the Jesus before he
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  incarnated as Joshua bin Joseph. He is a Creator son according to
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  the Rancher book. Now what is a Creator Son?
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  In paper 21 we read that Creator sons are the makers and rulers
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  of the universes of time and space.
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  These universe creators and sovereigns are of dual origin,
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  embodying the characteristic of God the Father and God the Son.
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  But each Creator's Son is different from every other.
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  Each is unique in nature as well as in personality.
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  Each is the only begotten Son of perfect Deity.
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  In the vast working of organizing, evolving and
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  perfecting a local universe, these High Sons always enjoy the
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  sustaining approval of the Father.
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  The relationship of the Creator's Son with their
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  Paradise Father is touching and superlative.
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  No doubt the profound affection of the the Deity parents for
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  their divine prodigy is the wellspring of that beautiful and
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  well nigh divine love which even mortal parents bear their
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  children. These primary Paradise sons are
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  personalized as Michaels. As they go forth from Paradise
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  to found their universes, they are known as Creator Michaels.
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  When settled in supreme authority, they are called
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  Master Michaels. Sometimes we refer to the
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  sovereign of your universe of Nebadon as Christ Michael.
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  Oftentimes you'll hear me refer to that as well, Christ Michael.
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  Always and forever do they reign after the order of Michael, that
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  being the designation of the first son of their order.
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  So there's a slightly larger family in the portrayal of of
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  Jesus and as he was as Michael than what you would get from the
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  New Testament. People in that age would not
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  have been able to conceive of what I just told you.
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  There's no way that they would have been understand that
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  dynamic Trinity relationship, the 1st and 2nd persons of deity
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  bringing into existence an order of sons who go out into the
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  universe and create these universes of perfection.
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  It gets more interesting because we know that Michael was here.
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  Each Creator Son is the only begotten and only begettable
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  offspring of the parent union of the original concepts of the two
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  infinite and eternal and perfect minds of the ever existent
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  creators of the universe of universes.
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  So Michael is an offspring. The man that was born and lived
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  on our world is an offspring of the Trinity.
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  That's the differentiation. Well, you can't rewrite the,
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  the, the pedigree of of Christ. He was the Son of God.
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  He's the only son of God. Well, it's only relatively true
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  because Michael is the creator son of our universe.
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  And there are 700,000 universes, each one consisting of around 10
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  million worlds. Now you see an expansion on this
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  idea of what a creator's son is, and it makes his mission even
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  that more fantastic. It makes it even more humbling
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  actually, to know that Christ could have chosen any one of 10
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  million worlds, but He chose ours.
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  And why did He do this? That's the question.
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  Why did he do it? Well, the reason that he did it
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  is because it's part of the Michael bestowals and there are
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  seven groups of bestowal creator sons and each are classified in
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  accordance with the number of times they have bestowed
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  themselves. Now this happens over a a
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  billion year period of time and through these 7 bestowals and
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  they vary in sectors and universes, they always embrace
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  the mortal bestowal adventure. So each of these other creator
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  Michael sons that are out there in universes that are far, far
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  and away from us, they too also go through their bestowal
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  experience. After each of his bestowals, a
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  Creator's son proceeds to the right hand of the Father, there
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  to gain the Father's acceptance of the bestowal and to receive
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  instruction preparatory to the next episode of universe
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  service. Following the 7th and final
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  bestowal, a Creator's Son receives from the Universal
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  Father's supreme authority and jurisdiction over his universe
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  and from Paper 21, Section 4, it reads.
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  It is of record that the Divine Son of last appearance on your
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  planet was a Paradise Creator Son who had completed 6 phases
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  of his bestowal career. And consequently when he gave up
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  the conscious grasp of his incarnated life on Urantia, he
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  could and did truly say it is finished.
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  It was literally finished. His death on Urantia completed
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  his bestowal career. It was the last step in
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  fulfilling the sacred oath of a Paradise Creator Son.
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  And when this experience had been acquired, such sons are
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  Supreme Universe sovereigns. No longer do they rule as
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  Besidrons of the Father, but in their own right and named as
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  King of Kings and Lord of Lords. With certain stated exceptions,
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  the sevenfold bestowal Sons are unqualifiedly supreme in the
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  universes of their abode. Concerning His local universe
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  Quote. All power in heaven and on earth
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  was relegated to this triumphant and enthroned Master Son.
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  So that that is an expansion, a major expansion to the concepts
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  that come from Scripture. Nothing changes on his divine
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  nature, his relationship with the Father.
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  In fact, it's even more explained in a much deeper
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  fashion in this in this writing. It takes nothing away from the
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  divinity of of Jesus Christ. It takes nothing away from his
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  of his earth life and the importance of it.
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  And he truly did represent the Father.
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  I would ask my Christian friends before you.
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  Push this book away. I I challenge you to read into
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  it. Read the last part of the book.
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  It may surprise you and how much more fully you appreciate the
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  masters life while he was on earth.
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  Now it talks about the bestowal. So we'll spend a minute and I
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  just want to spend a minute because it is important.
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  Each of the bestowals allows the the Michael sons, the Creator
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  sons, to experience first hand what their creation is.
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  So in paraphrasing from Paper 21, Section 4, it says when a
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  Creator's son designs to effect the bestowal, a real and
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  permanent change is destined to take place.
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  True, the bestowal son is still and nonetheless a creator, but
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  he has added to his nature the experience of a creature, which
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  forever removes him from the divine level of a Creator's son
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  and elevates him to the experiential plane of a master
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  son, one who has fully earned the right to rule a universe and
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  administer its worlds. The reason for the season?
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  And I hope you've enjoyed that. Until next time, thank you
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  again. Don't forget, you can always
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  listen on Spotify, your favorite podcast platform, or you can go
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  over to yourrancherradio.org. Until next time, God bless,
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  Merry Christmas and happy holidays.
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  Hello. The Angel of the Lord came upon
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  them, and the glory of the Lord shall run about them.
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  And they were so afraid, And the Angel said unto them, And fear
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  not. For behold, I bring your tidings
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  of great joy, which shall be to all people.
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  For unto you is born this day in the city of David, a Savior,
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  which is Christ the Lord, and this shall be a sign unto you.
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  He shall find the Abe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a
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  Manger. And suddenly there was with the
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  Angel a multitude of the heavenly host, praising God and
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  saying, Glory to God in the highest and on earth, peace,
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  goodwill toward men.