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Lovebugs in Paradise (Bachelor in Paradise Episode 9 Recap) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to the Almost Samos podcast. It's
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  Speaker 2: me and today we've got og bachelor Bob breaking down
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  Speaker 2: the latest episode of Paradise with me. Hey, Bob, thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much for doing this while Ben is away
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  Speaker 2: in Italy getting so much deserved rest of his family.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, Ashley. I it's exciting to see you.
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  Speaker 2: So nice to see you too. So this episode I
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  Speaker 2: rate it very highly. Maybe my favorite episode of Paradise
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  Speaker 2: this season. What are you about you? I?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was it was like drinking through a
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  Speaker 4: fire hose because there was so much going on in
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  Speaker 4: this episode, which I was. I was kind of like
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  Speaker 4: of the mindset where I was like, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 4: how much more can they squeeze into this thing?
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  Speaker 3: And it was kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, for me, I won't say it was one
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  Speaker 4: of my favorites, but I will say it was definitely.
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  Speaker 4: There was a lot going on, and so in that regard,
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  Speaker 4: I found it pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was really starting to root for couples.
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  Speaker 2: And when I say couples, I really mean one who
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  Speaker 2: is your Before I revealed my favorite who's your favorite
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  Speaker 2: couple right now? Who do you feel is the most
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  Speaker 2: genuine and long term Well.
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  Speaker 4: God, it's tough because my favorite couple was still Keith
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  Speaker 4: and Kathy, which I know is not gonna be I
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  Speaker 4: just I love that they have like just taken on
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  Speaker 4: the role of being like counselor to everyone, which I
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  Speaker 4: kind of thought might happen. But you know, I found
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  Speaker 4: myself today for whatever reason, finding the whole Spencer and.
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  Speaker 3: Is it Spencer and Jess.
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  Speaker 4: Is that that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I found them to be a lot more interesting today.
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  Speaker 4: But I actually started rooting for Andrew and Alex more
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  Speaker 4: today exactly.
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  Speaker 3: That was me.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, wait, they are a serious couple
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  Speaker 2: and I care about their well being. Yeah, They're the
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  Speaker 2: ones that I'm rooting to go all the way. There's
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  Speaker 2: a friendship foundation there for sure. I think that they
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  Speaker 2: are going in the right direction upward. And I think
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  Speaker 2: Jess and Spencer perhaps they're putting a little like storyline
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  Speaker 2: of doubt and maybe it's not that big of a deal,
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  Speaker 2: but I just try to put myself in my in
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  Speaker 2: the position that I was in if Jared during Bachelor
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  Speaker 2: in Paradise was ever like I'm ready to move in
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  Speaker 2: in three months. I would have been like, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: See, That's the thing that's so crazy is like, first
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  Speaker 4: of all, I don't know. I've been with Canyon for
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  Speaker 4: thirteen years and we have been we're married, and we
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  Speaker 4: have kids and we live together, of course, and I
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  Speaker 4: don't think I've ever said those things to her, Like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I ever said, Okay, my plan is
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna have kids in about you know, three years,
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  Speaker 4: but that's.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of long for me.
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  Speaker 4: Then I definitely want to have us living together immediately upon,
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  Speaker 4: you know, leaving this island.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just like, like, what dude does this? You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of a lot and.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lot of guys, but I know that if
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  Speaker 2: I I liked somebody enough, and there's so many different personalities,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm speaking for myself and not for her. She
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  Speaker 2: seemed freaked out by it. And if I was totally
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  Speaker 2: in love with someone, I would I would be kind
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  Speaker 2: of all in on his plan. He does want to
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  Speaker 2: move fast, and he also there was also the part
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  Speaker 2: where he's like, I am in love with her and
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  Speaker 2: she says she's not ready to say that yet.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what's crazy though, was like I swear to god.
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  Speaker 3: Two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 4: She was the one who was like, this is our
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  Speaker 4: last ever first date, and you know, like I remember
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  Speaker 4: like when they got the date and she's like, this
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  Speaker 4: is this was our first date and it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be the last ever first date either one of us
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  Speaker 4: ever have, Like she started this. So then for him
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  Speaker 4: to be now like reacting to that and responding to that,
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  Speaker 4: and for her to act like she's scared to death
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  Speaker 4: of it is almost kind of like, what the hell, lady,
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  Speaker 4: this is what you said you wanted and now he's
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  Speaker 4: giving it.
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  Speaker 3: To you and you're freaking out, you know. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah. So with Alex.
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  Speaker 4: Andandrew, I was going to say, the reason why I
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  Speaker 4: liked what was going on there so much was it
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  Speaker 4: was like they were both too timid to tell each
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  Speaker 4: other they were falling in love. And then she's like,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm gonna be the first one to
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  Speaker 4: do this.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god. And he goes, hold on, hold on,
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  Speaker 3: I'm falling in love with you.
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  Speaker 4: Like he what I really liked about that he was
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  Speaker 4: like protecting her, you know, and like you don't have
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  Speaker 4: to say it first, I'll say it, you know, which
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  Speaker 4: I thought was really sweet.
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  Speaker 2: It was so cute. Maybe I also find them to
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  Speaker 2: be like the most relatable. They're both a little bit
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  Speaker 2: like I wouldn't say awkward. Maybe sometimes she's awkward, but
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  Speaker 2: in a very endearing not like ooh, cringey awkward, but
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  Speaker 2: like in an adorable, endearing awkward. I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: there's just like a lot of genuine goodness between them.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't even consider Dale and Kat to like
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  Speaker 2: be like an actual option here, and I guess neither do.
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  Speaker 2: I think Jeremy and Bailey because both of them we've
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  Speaker 2: seen on camera have struggles before, and like their struggles
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  Speaker 2: that I'm not like, I don't think that were overcome.
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  Speaker 2: I think they were truly brushed aside daily Kat, he
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  Speaker 2: said some crazy stuff about her. She did not trust him.
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  Speaker 2: They both made each other worried, like they both had
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  Speaker 2: traits that they so worried about and somehow like it
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  Speaker 2: was sweeped away. It was swept away. And the same
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  Speaker 2: with Jeremy Bailey, like we just know that he was
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  Speaker 2: all after Susan and like she forgave him for that,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know that the audience ever really trusted
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  Speaker 2: that he is as in on Bailey as he says,
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  Speaker 2: he is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: There's definitely a lot of like I almost feel like that,
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  Speaker 4: you know how, like the formulaic version of The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm going back a long ways, like back
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  Speaker 4: when I was the Bachelor, they would always make you
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  Speaker 4: think and it was editing, it was, it was, but
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  Speaker 4: they would always make you think the runner up was
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  Speaker 4: the one who was going to be the woman that
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  Speaker 4: got the ring right, and so you were almost disappointed
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  Speaker 4: when when you would watch the show and you'd see
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  Speaker 4: the other person get the ring, You're.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh, well, I thought it was gonna be Debbie,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: And it's almost like they're doing that with Dale and
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  Speaker 4: Kat to us right now, Like they're pushing them so
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  Speaker 4: hard on us that I'm like, something's going to blow
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  Speaker 4: up on this, Like the wheels are coming off this
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  Speaker 4: at some point. I just don't know when, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of like waiting for this all to happen.
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  Speaker 3: But the only reason I'm just a skeptic.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like when I watched the show, I'm always
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  Speaker 4: thinking that they're manipulating me somehow.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhay.
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  Speaker 2: We've also seen them in like relationships in the past
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  Speaker 2: that have blown up in a sort of toxic way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know where it was just like, oh it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: we weally with kindness, would like to separate, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: Like it was just like, we respect our privacy.
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  Speaker 3: There's none of that.
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  Speaker 2: There are two really big egos too. I love Kat
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  Speaker 2: like I think she's the greatest reality star, but I
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  Speaker 2: also like know that the two of them together are
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  Speaker 2: just too big and together they're gonna have too big
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  Speaker 2: of problems. This is just my two cents per Bason
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  Speaker 2: what I watched on TV. All Right, so let's get
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  Speaker 2: into the specifics about this episode. First challenge, loved it,
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  Speaker 2: one of my one of my one of the like
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  Speaker 2: group day challenges. Whatever that like truly can tell you
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  Speaker 2: about someone. Oh, they have to go glamping. They have
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  Speaker 2: to set up a campsite, so they have to like
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  Speaker 2: supposedly set up their home. And this is gonna this
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  Speaker 2: is great. Yeah that working together and trying to put
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  Speaker 2: something together physically is a great test of compatibility.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and it's hot as hell.
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  Speaker 4: There's sweating, there's bugs everywhere, there's cow crap, horse crap
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  Speaker 4: all over the place.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, anything that they can do to
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  Speaker 3: make it uncomfortable they're doing.
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  Speaker 4: And these people have to figure out, you know, everything's broken, right,
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  Speaker 4: chairs are broken, you know, so they're seeing is this
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  Speaker 4: guy going to be a gentleman in this moment or
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  Speaker 4: is he going to be like, you know, I'll take
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  Speaker 4: them not broken chair.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's interesting to watch it.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny because then they have, you know, unbeknownst to them,
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  Speaker 4: they have a relationship expert watching the whole thing unfold
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  Speaker 4: and and you know, taking notes on how the whole
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  Speaker 4: thing kind of plays out, which I thought was pretty
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  Speaker 4: interesting because you know, they obviously forgot they were on
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  Speaker 4: a reality show, which, by the.
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  Speaker 3: Way, I have been loving all the little chiron things.
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  Speaker 4: But they're like, uh, you know buffering, Yeah, yeah. I
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  Speaker 4: think they even said to someone, you know, like I
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  Speaker 4: think it was it might have been Alex who was like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I can't believe they had a relationship counselor there.
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  Speaker 3: And they were watching us the whole time.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't know it, and all of a sudden, her
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  Speaker 4: thing under her name, so I forgot she was on
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  Speaker 4: a reality show.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly that they're breaking the fourth wall and like referring
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  Speaker 2: to the show a lot that I like it's tongue
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  Speaker 2: and jacin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was interesting though, but you're right, it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of crazy because it's a barn burner hot out
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  Speaker 4: there Cat. I honestly think this date was specifically designed
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  Speaker 4: to make Cat lose her mind, Like they were probably like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we kind of need the old cat back.
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  Speaker 4: She's been too chill on this season. We got to
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  Speaker 4: get her back to her meltdown moments. Let's let's do
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  Speaker 4: some bugs in the mix. I swear that's how it
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  Speaker 4: feels to be bugs.
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  Speaker 2: They're not that bad Cat, but apparently bad phobia. Dale
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  Speaker 2: does keep it together, respect Alex and Andrew. The kiss
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  Speaker 2: conversation was funny.
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  Speaker 3: It was funny, and I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Think I understand what the relationship specialists expert is saying about,
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  Speaker 2: like their chemistry, but sometimes I don't know what do
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  Speaker 2: you think? Do you think maybe you did like burning
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  Speaker 2: hot chemistry at that point or can it really a flirty,
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  Speaker 2: fun banter.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what's more fun.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like what I think that lady saw in
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  Speaker 4: them that she you know, she she thought other stuff
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  Speaker 4: was more I don't know, more important for relationship development.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm wondering where they found this lady.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like, honestly, what they have going is
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  Speaker 4: way more natural.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they've only been there two weeks, right, and
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  Speaker 3: neither of them have been there the whole time. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think. I think, I don't know. If they did,
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  Speaker 3: it were not a.
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  Speaker 2: Care no, and you came in like a couple of
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  Speaker 2: days later.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like, you know what, we're maybe at
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  Speaker 4: fourteen days max at this point, you know, And it's like,
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  Speaker 4: so the fact that they're still finding things out about
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  Speaker 4: each other, they're not that comfortable in every circumstance. They're
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  Speaker 4: sort of you know, but here they are. And this
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  Speaker 4: super what I thought was really endearing was they're in
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  Speaker 4: this super awkward, sweat bug fueled you know, a horsepoop thing,
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  Speaker 4: and they're actually sitting there kissing and being affectionate with
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  Speaker 4: each other, and they're playing like a game about it,
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  Speaker 4: which I thought was kind of cute. You know. It's
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  Speaker 4: almost like they're playing and spend the bottle with each
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  Speaker 4: other and there's only two people there, and it was
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of sweet, you know, And
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  Speaker 4: I think that's kind of why I really started. I
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  Speaker 4: doubled down after that relationship council. I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: o f this lady man, like that's my people, Like
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  Speaker 4: what are you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's like, okay, okay, I guess I see
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  Speaker 2: what you're talking about. But also I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: a big deal because, like I said, I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 2: obviously speaking from a place where I start out as friends,
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  Speaker 2: and I related to the moment and like you can tell,
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  Speaker 2: it's like flirty bands or I thought she was going
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  Speaker 2: to say, you guys are open about physical chemistry and
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  Speaker 2: you're communicating about that and that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta be honestly, you and I are on the
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  Speaker 4: same page right now, because I actually thought she was
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  Speaker 4: going to praise them a little bit for you know,
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  Speaker 4: I maybe rip on him a little bit because you know,
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  Speaker 4: when like she's she was right, you know, Alex is saying, well,
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  Speaker 4: here's what I would like, and he's like, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: if it's my last kiss on Earth, I'm going for
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  Speaker 4: And I thought that was actually pretty funny. But I
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  Speaker 4: get it, like, you know, you got to be respectful
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  Speaker 4: of your partner's wishes and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time. I don't know I found it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't interpret the way she did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't either. I didn't either. I didn't. You
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  Speaker 3: know what, though, I have this thing like I always this.
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  Speaker 4: Is gonna be horrible, and some people are gonna not
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  Speaker 4: like me saying this, but I always think, you know,
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  Speaker 4: isn't it weird that like every relationship expert has like
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  Speaker 4: a completely jacked up home life, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Like like every single time.
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  Speaker 3: If you go in and if you do a little.
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  Speaker 4: Deep dive, the matchmakers are all single, you know, but
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  Speaker 4: they know what's best for everyone, And then all these
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  Speaker 4: people that sit back and the armchair quarterback and just
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  Speaker 4: just shred people.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, what are you guys going on at home?
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  Speaker 3: You know? Are you happily married?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, and that she describes the how Dale has superhero syndrome,
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  Speaker 2: which I think that Jared has a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: time where it's like all the good things and be
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  Speaker 2: like perfect, but not like for himself, not for his
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  Speaker 2: own ego, like he truly wants to provide for his family.
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  Speaker 2: And then when it's not like receive the way it's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be.
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  Speaker 3: We get pissed.
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  Speaker 4: We get a little bothered and we almost get frustrated.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm telling you I suffer from this too. So
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  Speaker 4: she said that I was like, why.
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  Speaker 3: Am I all of a sudden a subject on the show?
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  Speaker 4: Like, but I, like I go through a canyon, Like
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  Speaker 4: I literally will be the one who, like I will
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  Speaker 4: go like I will go two and a half miles
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  Speaker 4: out of my way to make sure that everything else
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  Speaker 4: is done perfectly, even though she's perfectly capable.
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  Speaker 3: She could do it. I need to be the one
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  Speaker 3: that gets it done, and.
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  Speaker 4: I want it to be done a certain way, and
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  Speaker 4: I want everyone to think it's the greatest thing on earth.
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  Speaker 4: And then when they don't think it's the greatest thing
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  Speaker 4: on earth, or when they make suggestions about how else
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  Speaker 4: it could have been done, I'd.
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  Speaker 3: Be like, I just did this without even being asked.
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  Speaker 2: And you're like acts of service people, if yes, acts
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  Speaker 2: of service love language person, this is usually how like
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  Speaker 2: your interpretation is. Whereas like Jared, I'll say, I wake
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  Speaker 2: up and he took hated in the morning because he
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  Speaker 2: woke up early, and then he did the dishes and
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  Speaker 2: he did you know, he straightened up and all that.
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  Speaker 2: I so appreciate it, Like I appreciate it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, thank you. It's so nice. But to me,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't speak love, like that's not romantic love because
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  Speaker 2: that's not my love language. So you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: all a balance. And the doctor giving them the challenge
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  Speaker 2: prize to me seemed stagy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit, A little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe that was because they I mean, maybe because she
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  Speaker 4: was just melting down so badly.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and what's actually you know what, you're right,
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  Speaker 2: let me not jump to stagey. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: probably because it was the most extreme situation that was
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  Speaker 2: like happening there, and he did deal with it with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of patience, that's what she did. It seemed
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  Speaker 2: like maybe as a couple they're not the strongest, but
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  Speaker 2: in that situation they excelled given their traits.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's true. I think that's probably why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't had a date on the show since
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  Speaker 2: they first met.
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  Speaker 4: They did on the first one, so they've kind of been,
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  Speaker 4: you know, sixteen days, I mean just sort of grinding away,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this whole experience.
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  Speaker 3: They haven't gone anywhere, done anything. I don't know. It's interesting,
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  Speaker 3: BHD to see what happens.
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• 15:31
  Speaker 2: and get this, the designer behind them also created Lulu Lemon,
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  Speaker 2: so they know what they're doing. These leggings are next
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  Speaker 2: level think buttery soft, super flattering and very comfortable. But
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  Speaker 2: they're also very supportive in the right places. So I
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  Speaker 2: off in free shipping. Jeremy and Bailey, let's talk about them.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: They.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: He says in an interview that during the camping put
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: together that he can tell that Bailey loves him. You
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: can see the look in her eyes, and then he
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: says that he could see himself getting there. Yeah, there's
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: just something about the dude that I don't trust, and
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I like couringe at the moment that he'll come on
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: this podcast and I'm like, hey, really hard, really hard
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: on you don't know, I just don't know if we're
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: like incredible people.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: We're not vibing.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not vibing. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. It
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: is interesting because I feel like I'm at this point
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: where and I get made fun of by my wife
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: for this a lot that that I'm like literally rooting
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: for everyone, like I want everyone to be who I
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: hope they're going to be, right and and so now
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I'm sort of like almost making excuses for everything everyone
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: has done or said in the past.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Like I mean I've even said, like you.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Know, well, you know, I know that Dale and Claire
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: had a had a horrible blow up, but you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: we're seeing a different side of Dale, and maybe maybe
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: this is who he is now. I mean, you know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: he did say tonight that he knows what his love
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: language is. Like I'm just making excuses for everyone, you know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so sweet. That's really horrible.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: It's a horrible truth.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: It's embarrassing that I'm like, I can get bamboozled so
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: quickly by people. But I'm hopeful that maybe this guy
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: is you know, maybe it was just an errant comment
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: about Susie and maybe he really didn't I don't know.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to think.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I'm like losing it. What do you think about about
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: him right now? Like where's your head at with them?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: There's not been a lot of evolution there. It's just
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I guess vibes. And it could just be the fact
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: that I am so rooting for Andrew and Alex now
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: that like everybody else, I might get out of the way.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: But also justin Andrew, justin Spencer, like you got a
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: root for them. We see that Dale and Kat get
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: this beach date where basically they're just like it's all
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: worth it, Like this is solidified what I needed. He
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: did say a big thing here, though, he said you
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: feel like home, to which I was like, wow, that's big.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I was impressed. I was impressed. I don't know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: You know, you've you've heard, like I mean, we all
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: you know hear you know the rumors that there's something
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: going on, that's something you know, there's something coming up
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: around the corner. I mean, I don't want to ruin
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: anything for anyone, but if you watched the previous for
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: the next episode, for the finale, it looks like it
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: it gets pretty ugly. And I feel like, I don't know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I just feel like, if you're someone who's playing this
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: game because you didn't know there was five hundred grand
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: at the end of the at the end of this
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: thing when I started, if you're you're not someone who's
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: going that hard on these moments that you know are
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: going to come back to haunt you, right, And I
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: feel like Dale and Kat are seriously into each other
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: right now, Like watching them on that beach date like
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: they were I'm sorry, man, I I gotta say it,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: like I felt like, Wow, maybe they are a real couple.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: And here I've been doubting it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, but you're right, Like I'm
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: so rooting for Andrew and Alex too that I feel like,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: you know, part of me doesn't have room for anybody else.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, you know, no, I'm good. You guys
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: don't need to move up, just stay there on the beach.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: You're fine, Yeah, you know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Plus Wells, Oh my god, Wells is like really delivered
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: over the past few exactly what we need him to say.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Who won the who won the date? Andrew, you know
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: who won the date?
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: They go no, no, the whole everybody just starts laughing.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: So he's clearly made it known that he is not
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: a fan of that couple right now, exactly exact.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Gosh, it's so funny. Also, can we talk about the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: dates being really silly, like basically they just got drinks
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: out of like this parrot pineapple and there was really
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: nothing there that they couldn't have just gone back at
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the resort, basically sitting in a cabana.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Either the budget's been cut, you know, incredibly by over
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: the last two episodes.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not even gonna take you on a boat ride.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: You guys are gonna sit on this beach and just
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: chill out and here here's a pineapple.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Enjoy yourself. Yeah, there's not.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: They definitely have cut back on the swinkiness of the
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: last couple of date parties.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so funny. Okay, now we have the conversation as
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: far as like going in order of the episode. We
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: had the conversation between Jessine Spencer, which we kind of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: already broke down. There is an age gap there where
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: she's pretty young. She wants to be having kids by
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: her thirty I'm not sure what age she is now,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: but he says that would be a little late for him.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: But she did say what the thing was is she
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: said at the very latest thirty. So like, it's.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's up for discussion.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: It's up for discussion then.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, once you're in a relationship, your timelines
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: changed considerably when you're both in the same place, right,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: So it's like, right now, they don't even live together,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: so I get it, Like you're talking about having kids.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: It'd be like, dude, we live in I mean, I'm
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: assuming they live in different cities.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I don't even know it was Texas and California.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, oh my god, they're on opposite ends of
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: the world. It feels like, you know, from that perspective,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: So it's like at the end of the day, it's like, yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, I get it. You know, if he's thirty
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: two and she's probably what like twenty four.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe twenty five.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so she's thinking seven years that that's going to
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: make him forty.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Bro, that's a baby too me. I mean I didn't
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: have my friend he's thirty two.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Oh he's thirty two.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so seven years if you know so, that
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: would make him thirty nine.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Shaw. I didn't have my first kid that was forty eight. Bro,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Get over it, Bob.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Only like, like, I'm watching you right now, speak and
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: there's no way in the world that you register as
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: like older dad. You look and sound and presents all
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: over normally.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: So sweet, Ashley, that's why you've always been my favorite.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I will.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Tell you I uh I after this past weekend where
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I went out three nights in a row, which I
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: haven't done in quite some time, I felt all of
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: the old dad vibes, Like I was like, where's my walker?
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Then tonight I come home and my wife's like, oh yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: we're gonna have.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: A play date with uh so and so and so
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: and so.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: They didn't get see them all weekend, which I totally understood.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: But then all of a sudden, the home is invaded
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: by a herd of people and I'm like, dude, like
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I love them.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: They're my favorite family, my favorite couple. They hang out with.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: But I was like so shocked because I didn't know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: and I was like I kind of thought I wasn't
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: going to do anything tonight. But now I'm back at
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: it again. You know, I might as well have I noon,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: let's go, you know, like I'm.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: One hundred no no, no, no, You've definitely I feel like
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: you have a lot more stamina than I do. Okay,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: so let's talk about the cocktail party where basically people
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: need to figure out who's going to go home. It's
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: pretty obvious that it'll be between Jonathan and Leah or
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Keith and Kathy. And at this point, the stakes don't
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: feel high because it's gonna be one of them now and.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: One of them later, right right, Yeah, exactly.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: It ends up being Jonathan and Leah, and that's because
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Dale gets the last say because they were the winner
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and there was a tie in the vote, and he's
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: just like he was after my girl, so he's saying
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: by now like they obviously never really got along. And
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: then he also was talking about if you don't vote
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: off who you really think is, you know, the weakest link,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: you never know what's going to like actually end up happening,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Like how are they going to play with the game
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: later on?
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and I thought that was interesting because you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: you never know what these challenges are going to be either.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: So I mean, at the end of.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: The day, you know, Keathy and Keith, I think Keith
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: might not be the weakest link, right, so they're thinking.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: But I also think part.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Of it was, you know, the people that voted for
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Keith and Kathy were voting because Keith. I mean, it
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: was very sweet and Keith got emotional talking about it
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: being homesick in Wine to see his girls and they're
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: getting ready to go camping anyway, or something like that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I mean I
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: would probably think, man, this.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Dude needs to go home.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I get it, you know, And but then all of
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: a sudden he changed his mind and he was like,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I think I'm willing to stick around for another week.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Somebody was probably like, don't we do. Somebody production was like, hey,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: it's not really weak. It's another day. If you could
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: get one more night, and probably.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Just bro, we can have you on a plane tomorrow afternoon.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Just get through time. Yeah exactly.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that's probably part of it too, But yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: it's not like it's unfolding in real time. I mean,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: you know, it's the eight Throws ceremony and it's only
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: day nineteen, So if anybody's doing the math at home,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: that's not eight weeks, right, that's about, you know, a day.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: It was like it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Sometimes a lot can happen in a short amount of
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: time there. That be said, they go home and the
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: next day they have another challenge, the sharp they called
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: sharp opinions, and it's got stabbing daggers in one's back.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Jesse ends up asking questions like who's still talking to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: an X? Who is most likely to get on the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: nerves of their significant other because their child like acts,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: you know antics. It was an interesting. It was interesting.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: It wasn't as backstabby as I would have thought. It
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: wasn't like they were really talking behind their back.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Right, I think it would be kind of a I mean,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: now it's down to what eight people.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: And yeah it was anonymous. That's why it wasn't so
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: hard to me.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but then all of a sudden I would be like, god, dude,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: that kind of hurts to think. So I don't know
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: if there's first of all, I'm pretty good with math, right,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: so if I'm seeing six daggers in my back from
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: one thing. I'm like, okay, pretty sure everybody here except
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: my dude or my chick didn't throw a knife at
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: my back on that one, because it looked like, I mean,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: on a couple of those, like even Andrew on the
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: first one, the childlike behavior one, I thought, I don't know, I.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Don't I must have missed where that was coming from.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: But that was pretty much like him, right, they said
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Alex and Andrew got the most on that one, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: then the next was trust issues. That was Cat and Dale. Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: then I took notes. This is how interesting this was
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: to me. The biggest Oh what was this the biggest
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: codependent jessin Spencer.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: That's probably pretty.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: True, just you know, definitely definitely on her, Oh for sure.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, talking to an ex.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: And this one went to Jeremy.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: So this seemed weird because we have heard there's rumors
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: around the internet and such that Kat had snuck an
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: iPad in and she was texting an ex. Yeah, they
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: either didn't flash to the right back when saying this
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: when like airing this, or it's just a rumor. So
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: we'll see, because if she was truly texting somebody in
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: an iPad. I think that would have come out here.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Well, if it hasn't come out, it looks like the uh,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the Paradise Parliament or whatever is coming back in the
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: next episode.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: It's coming out if there's anything going on, because that
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: dude's pissede. He's like fired up man.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What I thought was weird was that Kathy and
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Keith actually didn't win this challenge. I thought they would
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: have the least daggers because I so too. All the
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: questions didn't seem to be directed towards them, right, They
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: also seem to be directed towards younger people.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Although when they went to the who doesn't deserve to
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: be here? It looked like it looked like Keith might
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: have gotten every one of them.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I guess when it comes down to it, they got that,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: and then Andrew and Alex ended up winning, but they
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: did get that childish dagger. Yeah, so they end up winning,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: which you know, you and I both freeth the sigh
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: of relief. I didn't think they were actually going to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: be in danger, but it's nice going into the Rose
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: ceremony knowing that they're gonna be safe. But we don't
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: get to see the Rose ceremony. Here we do see
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: them kind of pairing up though, talking alliances because they're
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be limiting two couples and it's gonna be the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: last row ceremony, so we're gonna get down to three
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: serious couples, which means that one of this year we
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: know they can. Athy and Keith are leaving. Kathleen and
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Keith are really being so so sweet because Keith is saying, hey,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I'm eliminating us, you know, I'm going forward for the money,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: which is really really so sweet. He also knows there's
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: no chance of them winning here, but he said, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it was the most endearing thing I've watched all episodes,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: all seasons of Bachelor in Paradise, and this show is
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: about love and that's what I want to root for,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: not money. Then we see, like, you know, everybody talking
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: alliances and whatnot. But what I want to talk about
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: as we wrap up this episode is what Jesse says
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: in the teaser. He says, you guys have all like
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: known that there's money involved at the end of this,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: but you do have to choose between love and money.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's so interesting to figure out what
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: the hell this show is at this point because you know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I even said at the beginning a couple of weeks ago,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: when they first started talking about the money, I was like, Oh,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I wonder if there's gonna be like a for.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Lover money spin on this thing. Yeah, brought up the
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Bachelor pad.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: How the one dude chose, you know, to keep it
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: instead of share it, and he was a villain, but he,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: you know, he made money. And it's interesting because now
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: here comes that twist right where it's really going to
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: be a circumstance where you know, let's be honest, man,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: if if if if Jeremy, let's say, let's say hypothetically
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: it's Jeremy and Bailey at the end, and Jeremy's like,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I know that Bailey is into me and loving me,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: but I'm not there yet. I mean, does he choose money?
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Does she choose love? Like, and then what happened.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: To me is choosing money in this situation?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, no doubt right, And then he's coming.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Might even be choosing money. Kat might be choosing money.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I don't. I do think that. And I think that
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Alex and Andrew and I don't mean to like just
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: pump them up so much. But I think they're gonna
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: be the ones that would have the most ethical dilemma
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: if it comes down to them being the champions and
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: having to choose between one or the other. Now, it's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: all about appearances in my opinion, because it's a different
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: world than it was. I even think during Bachelor PAB.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I think just because of exposure and reality TV and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: like us kind of all of us, not just you
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and I who have been involved to kind of see
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: beyond the curtain a little bit more now, right, Yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: even the casual viewer who's really into the love element
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: of Bachelor is going to be like, guys, you take
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the money and then you meet off camera and you
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: can get married.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Like, no one says you can't stay together, you know.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Nobody says you can't be together. I wonder if Jess's
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: going to say, there's like a thing where if we
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: catch you being together within a year of this show,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: you can't do that.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: You can't enforce that, No, you can't.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would think at the end of the day,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: if it came down to somebody, you know, for loving
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: or for money, And I mean, first of all, if
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: they both say so, here's here's here's the thing, which
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I know we'll find out. We'll find out next week.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: But what if they both say for love and they're
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: the winning couple, does that mean no one gets that money?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: My guess is this It's gonna be kind of like
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Beauty and the Beast.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Fall in love, you will get something, if you like
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: make them fall in love when there's I don't even
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: know how to describe this. You know what Beauty and
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the Beast works as he got her to fall in
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: love with him as a beast, and then she got
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: her treat, which was he was a very handsome prince.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: So I'm thinking that maybe if they end up saying
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: we choose love, that's the ticket to actually getting the money.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: To get the money. Oh my god, that'd be amazing,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: wouldn't it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be amazing because I would like that
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: more personally because it's like, to me, the money element
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: somebody walking off of this show with five hundred grand
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: and breaking someone else's heart.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: You and I know that this show has never been
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: this generous. No, five hundred grand that is hundreds hundreds,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: four hundred thousand, at least more than they've ever paid
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: their lead right right, Yeah, that is a ton of money.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Real you know, they don't fly us first class or
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: anything like that, Like what the city around.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: This's gotta be some twist and they got to be
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: planning on splitting it havesies at the end somehow someway
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: for that couple.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see what happens for sure, But
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, man, some of the best relationships have come
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: out of The Bachelor in Paradise, and I feel like
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: this could be another one.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: You never know, and let me just blow up their
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: spot a little bit more Alex and Andrew. There's something
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: about looking at the two of them together that I'm like,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: you guys look like you're supposed to be together. Yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: they knowing them from separate shows, I feel like they
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: were meant to meet here. I think they really could
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: be the next great Bachelor love story. And I'm sorry
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: for ignoring the Jess and Spencer of it all. I
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: feel like Jess and Spencer. There's an inkling inside me
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: that just says they could be like the Carly and
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Kirk of this season.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so it's.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Like the entire season, everybody thinks they're gonna end up together.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And I think that they will end up together, but
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think that they're serious enough to be in
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: an end an engagement. Do you think that anybody will
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: end here in engagement? Kat is already honest saying issue
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: will not.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, Kat, respect, good job Kat.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's been there, done that, and you know, one
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: wants to be like you know, ross from friends, where
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: you get like, you know, engaged or married sixty four times.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: But I do think that I look at it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I'm with you on this because I don't I don't
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: get the vibe from anybody else except Andrew and Alex
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: that they're that they're hitting their stride at the right time.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, like you know what I mean, Like I think I.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Think Jess and God, I can't wind like Spencer.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep forgetting his name too for some Yeah,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: and he's.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Like insanely into her and it's like, you know, but
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: it's like they peaked too early.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I feel I feel like Cat and Dale. Cat and
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Dale are just like you know, the King. Yeah, I'm
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: still I'm scared about for sure.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: They're like in high school and it nicks. Yeah, and.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Then you got the other ones, which I know we
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: keep like totally just ignoring them, but they're there's they're
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: not there either, right, Jeremy. Jeremy's just something's off, something's
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: off there. Bailey seems so sweet, she's so good. Yeah, yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: she and she's being I feel I hope, I hope
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I'm wrong, but it feels like she's being played a
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: little bit. And but I don't think Jeremy, I honestly don't.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know why, but I don't think Jeremy is
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: doing it maliciously. I think he's in the moment he
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: wanted to redeem himself because that Susie thing might have
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: just been a thing. Here I go again, making excuses
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: for everyone. But I feel like I feel like, underneath
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: it all, he's not in this situation to hurt her.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Like you can tell, he cares about her.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I think at this point it's not even appropriate for
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: them to leave, you know, because they still like each other. Yeah,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: and we're still not even done eliminating the people that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: don't like each other, Okay, Kathy and Keith. Right, and
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: now now, of course, with the two eliminations, yes, we
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: are down to the this is this would start to
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: be the appropriate time for them to leave if he
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: is not like getting to be in the love point.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I do like the way that this seems like there
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: won't be any sort of pressure to be get engaged.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I think I've named this stat before, but I think
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: half of all married Bachelor in Paradise couples did not
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: get engaged in Paradise.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I think, if not more of the people that you're
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: married from Paradise didn't get engaged there.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's good take that stress off the table.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Well, and it's like, you know, Neil Lane gets a
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: lot of camera time. He's good, Neil Lane's good. We
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: don't need to be thrown out unless they're getting five
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars worth of Neil Laine rings, you know.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: And that's what the whole prize is.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Some catch to this, right, It's gonna be the great,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the biggest neel Aane ring we've ever seen in our lives.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: It's just like one giant It's like a hat with
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: a giant diamond on it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know it's gonna be.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting because I feel like, to me,
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: I mean the money part of it, I get it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: It was introduced to kind of you know, bring that
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: whole a new twist to the show and all that
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But part of me is hopeful that
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: there is some type of love that comes from the show,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: because that's always been kind of the magic of it,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: you know, is that whole fairy tale ending that everybody loves,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: you know, and I wouldn't mind seeing that.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I believe that the twist the final episode, it's all
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: gonna come together and prove that the show really is
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: about love over money.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be pretty sweet. It looks like it
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: gets pretty it looks like it gets pretty dicey next week.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I mean the previews obviously they're bringing back you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like Survivor, right, they're bringing I mean,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: they are combining so many shows into this new format.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: They're they're bringing back the whole cast. They're gonna be like,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: you know, you're the tribe is spoken. We're getting that
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: element coming up with the Parliament, Paradise Parliament. But we're
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: also getting you know, basically, there's gonna be there's gonna
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: be some people thrown under the bus because it looks
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: like hysterics and Sue. I mean, it looks like, you know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: obviously we know that Keith and Kathy are going home,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: and then who's the who's the couple that you think
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: of the four would be on the chop block? Like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: which one do you think would be the next one
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: to go home?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I do think I think it'll be Bailey and Jeremy
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: because of all the things we've said, but also because
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: of the Parliament, and I think the Parliament's going to
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: bring up a lot about the Susie stuff. I also
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: think that they're going to get at Kat. It seems
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: like Alisha, I'm sorry that I cannot ever say her name, Alicia, Alicia,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Alicia Silversion. Yeah, she seems like to have a vendetta
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: against Kat and she's.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're fired up. I mean they have definitely been.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: They probably spent some time with the producers on there
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: three days since they've been off the off the ranch,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: and they probably have just been getting so fired up
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: about how to settle the score when they come back
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: in there. So it's gonna be, you know, it's definitely
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: gonna be some fireworks for sure. And it's funny tonight.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: You know, my brother in law and a few of
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: my buddies that I was with this weekend. They are avid,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: avid Bachelor and Paradise fans, and they literally all dudes,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: like their wives don't even watch the show. And they're like,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: they're like texting me all night. We don't want any spoilers.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Don't tell us anything. You know, we know you've seen
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: the show. I'm like, actually I haven't. We're watching it
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: later tonight. What. Oh my god, Well, we're not gonna
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: tell you anything that so we don't want to, you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: influence your your podcast.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, you guys are fools. But anyway, they're
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: they're so into the show and they're like, I mean
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: and there after.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: The you know, they showed the previous for next week
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: or whatever. I'm just getting blown up. Oh my god,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: this is happening. This is gonna be this is going
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: to be a reckoning. Things are going down next week.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Guys, are you getting this because we're recording this at
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: ten thirty pm Eastern, Like your your tex should be
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: rolling in about it.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Oh they're rolling, they're rolling.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm watching it blown up my phone right now
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: as we speak.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh my god, all right.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: So fun, so funny, Bachelor Bob. I'll never not call
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: you Bachelor Bob. Thank you so much for joining us.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: This was really fun. I love your insight and until
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: next time, I've been Ashley.
• 40:38
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• 40:43
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