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Andrew Catalon on Pederson and Lawrence Duo Building This Franchise | Countdown to Kickoff · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Downtown to kickoff continues the Jaguars and the Houston Texans.
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  Speaker 1: It's Week twelve and it's a battle for first place
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  Speaker 1: in the AFC South. Who better to call a game
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  Speaker 1: like this than Andrew Cattle out of CBS Sports. Our
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  Speaker 1: first time with you this year, Andrew. It's unbelievable. Have
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  Speaker 1: you finally?
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  Speaker 2: It's been wild? It's been this long, JP, but it
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  Speaker 2: does feel right to get going here with the Jags
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  Speaker 2: and the Texans. I think I've done this matchup about
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  Speaker 2: ten years in a row, and I think this probably
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  Speaker 2: is the best of the ten that I've been able
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  Speaker 2: to call.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's the first time they both had
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  Speaker 1: winning records playing each other in November or December, so
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  Speaker 1: it's automatically a big game at that point. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean this has got to be right up there close
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  Speaker 1: to one of the biggest, most important ones, because hey,
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  Speaker 1: if the Jaguars winning, it's a two game stretch. Texans
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  Speaker 1: winning it flips the whole division around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. I think Actually, both these teams look
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  Speaker 2: pretty good to make the playoffs, but you'll feel a
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  Speaker 2: lot better if you're in the division lead with six
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  Speaker 2: to go, especially a Jacksonville team. You know, Houston would
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  Speaker 2: have the tie break if they win this game. I
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  Speaker 2: think the Jaguars are still good enough to get in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs either way, but I think you'd rather try
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  Speaker 2: to get that division title and go into the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: that way.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew. The coaching styles here are pretty interesting. Doug Peterson,
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  Speaker 1: we know what he's about, and we know how he
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  Speaker 1: got this team off the mat early in the season
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  Speaker 1: after the lost to Houston. For all those five wins
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  Speaker 1: in five stadiums in four cities and the whole deal
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  Speaker 1: and keeping everybody on track. And he's done that and
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  Speaker 1: did the rally last year. But de Miko Ryans is
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  Speaker 1: brand new to this thing and they weren't supposed to
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  Speaker 1: do anything this year. What's going on with the Miko
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  Speaker 1: Ryans and the way he's brought this group together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. I mean I really thought after they
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  Speaker 2: started zero and two that it was going to be
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  Speaker 2: one of those, you know, three and fourteen type of
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  Speaker 2: seasons for the Texans with a rookie QB being a
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  Speaker 2: rookie head coach. I think that quarterback and the coach
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  Speaker 2: have've done a fantastic job. I mean, I really I
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  Speaker 2: didn't see this one coming. There's very few things that
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  Speaker 2: surprised me in the NFL these days, but this is
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  Speaker 2: one of them, and I give them a lot of credit. Look,
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  Speaker 2: you look at this division now with the quarterbacks that
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  Speaker 2: are in the AFC South, and I think Will Levis
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  Speaker 2: needs a little time in Tennessee. He does not have
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  Speaker 2: a good offensive line. As we saw last week. You
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  Speaker 2: could have four really good qbs in this division for
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  Speaker 2: the next ten years, and I think that's really exciting
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  Speaker 2: when you look at this AFC South.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Catalan with us CBS Sports. Let's talk about two
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  Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks then, and start with Trevor Lawrence. And
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  Speaker 1: he's coming off the AFC Offensive Player of the Week
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  Speaker 1: award using his legs, he's still wearing the knee brace,
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  Speaker 1: but he's still finding a way most times to get
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  Speaker 1: things done. It may not be like the big astronomical
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  Speaker 1: numbers that a lot of people were expecting this year.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people picked him to be the MVP.
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  Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. But he's still playing winning football.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the next How does Trevor get there or
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  Speaker 1: will he even get there? Is this good enough?
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because you guys breathe it day in, day out,
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  Speaker 2: and I've got the bigger picture. I mean, if someone
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  Speaker 2: told the Jaguars fan that they'd be seven to three
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  Speaker 2: after ten games, I would think that the majority would
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  Speaker 2: sign up. I know they didn't beat the Chiefs. I
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  Speaker 2: know they didn't beat the forty nine ers. You'd love
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  Speaker 2: to see him win one of those games. I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But Trevor Lawrence, as you said, is playing winning football.
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  Speaker 2: They lead the division, They've won seven of their ten games.
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  Speaker 2: They played back to back games in London. I have
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  Speaker 2: a much different perspective of this team than I think
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  Speaker 2: some do. I'm very high on them, and I think
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  Speaker 2: a big reason why, and we've talked about this in
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  Speaker 2: the past, is the marriage between Peterson and Lawrence. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a fantastic relationship. It's only going to make
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  Speaker 2: Trevor play better football. And the key here, as we
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  Speaker 2: all know, is to peak at the right time. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they've necessarily played their best football, and they're
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  Speaker 2: still in a great spot. You get hot late December
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  Speaker 2: early January, and then look out in the playoffs. That's
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  Speaker 2: my take on Jacksonville right now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, you gotta give the Jaguar fans
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of leeway though. I mean, I'm in
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  Speaker 1: my early forties, right. The last time the Jaguars were
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  Speaker 1: this good this early, I was a senior in high school. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a while for the Jaguar fans, been a while.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. No, I totally get it. But I
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  Speaker 2: just didn't like the perception that ah that you know,
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  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, they layden egg against San Francisco. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of teams lay an egg against San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: How about Philadelphia's only lost this year was against the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: How about that? I mean, I just feel like in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, you can't win every week.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move forward now to the other side and CJ. Stroud,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the guy. Obviously, Carolina might have made the
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  Speaker 1: wrong move. It might still be a little premature to
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  Speaker 1: say that it's half a season. However, so far, the
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  Speaker 1: early returns are in Stroud's favor at number two overall.
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  Speaker 1: He's just so calm. It feels like nothing really bothered.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun to watch, isn't it. I mean, not
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  Speaker 2: from a fan. If you're a Jaguars fan, you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to watch this, but from every other week, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's been great to watch. I give a lot
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  Speaker 2: of credit to the offensive coordinator Bobby Slowik. He's had
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  Speaker 2: a really good plan. They've brought him along.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Tank Dell is a problem. We saw that in the
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  Speaker 2: first Jaguars game. He's coming off a big game last
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  Speaker 2: week against the Cardinals. You know, running the football has
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  Speaker 2: actually been a little bit better for them lately, to
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  Speaker 2: which I think has helped CJ. Stroud. But ultimately, this
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  Speaker 2: is a guy that's going to probably want to air
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  Speaker 2: it out and it's going to be on that Jacksonville
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  Speaker 2: back end to blow him down. Now, he did throw
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  Speaker 2: three picks last week, Let's not forget that three interceptions
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  Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. But still a very talented guy. And
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the big things in this game
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  Speaker 2: is going to be the crowd. I mean, I've done
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  Speaker 2: a lot of games in Houston where you could hear
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  Speaker 2: a pin drop. That's not going to be the case
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday today. So I feel like how Jacksonville manages
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  Speaker 2: that is another part of the equation here today.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Cattle on CBS Sports, Jaguars defense really good against
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  Speaker 1: the run. This year and really good in taking the
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  Speaker 1: ball away, and that was their formula in training camp.
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  Speaker 1: That's what, pretty much to a man, they said they
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  Speaker 1: wanted to do, and they're they're doing that. They're playing
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  Speaker 1: the style they want to play. Could they get more
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  Speaker 1: pass rush, That's when everybody's asked, Sure, but they're doing
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  Speaker 1: their number one and number two goals, stop the run
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  Speaker 1: and take the ball away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what it's all about. Takeaways are so
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  Speaker 2: huge in this league. And you know, I look back,
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  Speaker 2: I watched the first game between these two teams, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Special team's mistakes really was what changed
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  Speaker 2: that game. McManus missed the field goal, had a field
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  Speaker 2: goal block, and the eighty five yard kickoff return for
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown. You know, those plays change that game. Takeaways
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  Speaker 2: change games. And the way I think for Jacksonville to
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  Speaker 2: get back in this is capitalize off some takeaways, take
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  Speaker 2: the ball away as they've been doing all year, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that would that would turn the ball game
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  Speaker 2: in their favor as opposed to last time when the
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  Speaker 2: Special Teams Miskies kind of turned it the other way.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew is this Texans team built for year over year
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  Speaker 1: success outside of the quarterback position. What where do they
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  Speaker 1: stand in the pecking order? I hate, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: use the word hate a lot, but I hate power rankings. However,
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  Speaker 1: how do you how do you see the South right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jacksonville is still the favorite. That could
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  Speaker 2: change here against the Texans in terms of just the standings,
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  Speaker 2: But I like Jacksonville's talent. You know, Houston had a
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  Speaker 2: good draft. Obviously Stroud and is will Anderson is a problem.
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  Speaker 2: He was the one that blocked the field goal back
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  Speaker 2: in Week three. They have some nice pieces and you
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  Speaker 2: know they're only going to be getting more draft capital.
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  Speaker 2: I think over the next couple of years they still
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  Speaker 2: get a first rounder from Deshaun Watson. All that pick
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  Speaker 2: not as good because Cleveland's having a good year. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think that where this team was two
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  Speaker 2: years ago and now the talent they have, it's a
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  Speaker 2: big difference. I still think they have to close the
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  Speaker 2: gap a little bit, but they're getting there.
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  Speaker 1: Andrel is finished with your new setup this year. A
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  Speaker 1: couple of new booth mates up there with you, Matt Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: Tiki Barber. How's it gone so far? I saw a
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  Speaker 1: tweet the other week where they said the perfect guy
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  Speaker 1: is in the booth and you said, yeah, the backyard,
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  Speaker 1: that's me. I love that. That's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: But what a crew, right, gosh, yeah, it's been fun.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, every time a QB goes down, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we expect Matt to get a call. But he's been
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  Speaker 2: having a good time, and the three of us together
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  Speaker 2: have had a good time. And you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, you're calling all these national games and
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  Speaker 2: you know how hard a three man booth can be sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the big thing is that nobody on
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  Speaker 2: our crew has an ego. We all share the ball
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  Speaker 2: and you have to have that in the booth. So
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  Speaker 2: it's been great. I mean Matt just off the field,
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  Speaker 2: he's played with so many guys, I mean, Calvin Ridley
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  Speaker 2: obviously it was his first quarterback, so that'll be fun
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  Speaker 2: to see that him talking about Calvin in this game.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, Tiki is not that far removed,
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  Speaker 2: and he you know, he has his own national New
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  Speaker 2: York City radio show, so he's really well dialed in.
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  Speaker 2: And the three of us, along with aj Ross, have
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  Speaker 2: been having a really good time this season.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I hope this is the first of many times
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  Speaker 1: we get you this season. This is amazing. It's Week
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  Speaker 1: twelve and it's the first conversation we've had with you,
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  Speaker 1: but it's always a pleasure. I appreciate your time
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  Speaker 2: And man, and hope you had a great Thanksgiving