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YES, AND: angry hornets and brunch drunk · The Naked Room

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SPEAKER_02: Happy Thanksgiving, roomies.
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We love this holiday so much in the naked room that we decided
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to do a 15-minute
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SPEAKER_02: shorty bonus episode just on our Thanksgiving loves,
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SPEAKER_02: dislikes,
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SPEAKER_02: all the things that we must need at the table.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, Kelly and JL.
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SPEAKER_00: I am calling from Charlottesville,
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SPEAKER_00: Virginia,
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and I have a memory of Thanksgiving not too many years ago
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where all the family was
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SPEAKER_00: together,
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SPEAKER_00: which is always so wonderful,
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SPEAKER_00: and we needed to make some whipped cream for our pies.
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SPEAKER_00: So rather than getting the mixer out, we put everything in a bowl.
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and pass the bowl around and all the cousins took turns hand
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whipping the whipped cream.
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And it was just so much fun because everybody seemed to enjoy
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it and when their
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SPEAKER_00: arms got tired they would just pass it along to the next cousin.
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And it's just always like stuck in my mind and I can actually
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even just see
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SPEAKER_00: everybody standing around and passing the bowl.
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SPEAKER_00: But it was a lovely time and a great memory.
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SPEAKER_00: And, of course, the pies were great and the whipped cream, too.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: Bye.
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SPEAKER_01: No dress code.
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SPEAKER_01: No rules.
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SPEAKER_01: Just B-Y-O-U.
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SPEAKER_01: It's time to tell society that it's a taboo.
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SPEAKER_01: You can be the you-est you here in the Naked Room.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you want to start off talking about what happened today?
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, sure.
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We're going to see if we can make it through this episode
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without me going into it.
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SPEAKER_01: You're so dedicated, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I was having a little walkabout in the forest with my hounds.
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SPEAKER_01: And out of nowhere, I felt a bit of an intense sting on my bum.
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SPEAKER_01: My initial reaction was that something prickly was stuck on my bum.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I put my hand there.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't feel anything.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I felt another sting and another sting and another sting.
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SPEAKER_01: The dogs were following me.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I realized the dogs also are
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SPEAKER_01: kind of pawing at their face.
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SPEAKER_01: So I get them in.
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SPEAKER_01: I rush them inside to our little mudroom area.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I see on the glass,
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SPEAKER_01: not on the outside,
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SPEAKER_01: but on the inside with us,
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there are about six or seven hornets that have followed us in
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to the mudroom.
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SPEAKER_01: So then I'm like, oh, shit.
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So I get the dogs and myself and go into the bathroom to kind
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of close the door and
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SPEAKER_01: separate us and just check them out and check myself out.
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SPEAKER_01: And I take my pants down.
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SPEAKER_01: and realize that definitely bee stings.
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SPEAKER_01: So anyway, we are about
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45 minutes post sting and I am stings feeling just ironically a
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little buzzy but
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other than that yeah she's gonna morph into a bee though I'm
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turning into a hornet
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I sustained probably like eight stings I think and I think the
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dogs got a couple
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but I did give them Benadryl I however didn't take Benadryl
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because I'm supposed to
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teach you in a class later today so it felt like it's driving
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yeah yeah I'm not
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SPEAKER_02: gonna drive there so you might end up
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SPEAKER_02: napping instead of yoga-ing.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think it's allowed past a certain time anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, when we used to wait and be like,
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9 30 10 10 11 times even like it's it's comical now to see
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anything i remember poor
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my poor friend was having a birthday party in la this last year
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but before we moved
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and i remember getting the invitation and she's like you know
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birthday party we're
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meeting here starts at 10 now and not only did it start at 10
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but i'm pretty sure
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it was like a random weekday and i was just like oh my god see
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no if i'm gonna go
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SPEAKER_02: to that
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to have to go out to dinner first.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And maybe go get a cocktail, something.
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SPEAKER_02: There's got to be a whole production ahead of time too.
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SPEAKER_02: Like typically for me, as long as I'm out by about eight-ish, I'm fine.
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SPEAKER_02: But if I – I prefer to go out earlier though.
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Like I actually love going and having a 5.30 dinner reservation
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because then you get home and –
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it's maybe still light outside depending on what time of the
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year it is if it's
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November it's already dark when you go out but it's true and I
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am a lot less likely
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to go out and do things and say yes to stuff most of the time
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when it gets dark
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earlier yeah my preferred like I mean this is more so if like
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alcohol and cocktails
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SPEAKER_01: are involved like oh give me a brunch
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SPEAKER_01: Any day.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Because here's the deal.
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SPEAKER_01: I've already gotten up.
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I've had enough time to kind of do the things I need to do
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around the house.
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SPEAKER_01: Enough time to like put together a little outfit or maybe not.
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Maybe it's like a workout clothes situation where we can show
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up in our yoga leggings,
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whatever.
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get there i could have even skipped breakfast so that i can
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have like a real
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indulgent get that extra pancake get that extra pancake i can
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like get the mimosas
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flowing it's sunny out which makes me happy so i'm like feeling
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good from like
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satiating myself from the booze from the friendship from
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everything and then
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SPEAKER_01: three, four o'clock rolls around and you're like, I'm done.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going home.
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SPEAKER_01: You get in your PJs and like, you're like, all right.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, it's just so great.
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SPEAKER_01: It's glorious.
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SPEAKER_01: I wake up the next day.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't have a hangover.
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SPEAKER_01: Cause that kicked in at like 6 PM.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh my God.
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SPEAKER_02: That one time when you and I,
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went and got bottomless doses okay so we're in last let me
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paint the picture we're
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in west hollywood where i was living at the time and we went to
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oh what was the
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name of that restaurant it's not there anymore i don't know
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were we in our 20s like
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late 20s or were we in our 30s early i was probably early 30s
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and you were probably
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SPEAKER_02: like 20s yeah
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but i remember taking a selfie in one of the like we took a
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reflection selfie or
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something and i'm like i can vividly remember like the outfit
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that i was wearing
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because i used to wear the outfit all the time my hair was
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still short anyway we
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looked damn good we looked damn good we walked all the time and
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we walked so far
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but we got bottomless mimosas and then we walked like two miles
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or whatever it was
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SPEAKER_02: a mile and a half down to like the beverly center or something yep and
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SPEAKER_02: And we realized that both,
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SPEAKER_02: we're supposed to meet our very,
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SPEAKER_02: very pregnant friend later in the day for ice cream,
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SPEAKER_02: like in a different neighborhood.
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SPEAKER_02: And of course- Of which we probably needed the Uber too.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was the whole point.
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SPEAKER_02: We were like, we're walking around, we're having a good old time.
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we need to get a car and we realized that both of our phones
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are dead or are dying
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SPEAKER_02: or something.
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SPEAKER_02: So we had to go into another bar down near the Beverly Center and ask the
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SPEAKER_02: bartender,
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SPEAKER_02: this really nice guy who was very sweet to us,
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if we could use his phone charger or use a charger to plug in
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one of our phones
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SPEAKER_02: because at this point,
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SPEAKER_02: we know our friend is sitting there
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waiting for us at salt and straw and larchmont that ice cream's
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so good it's so
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good put her into labor and they're so enthusiastic about
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giving you samples that
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by the time you actually order you've already had like a whole
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scoop of ice cream
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they like force it on you almost yeah oh my god that's my
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favorite i love the one
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with the pig blood yeah there's like so many yeah so funny so
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many like weird we've
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SPEAKER_02: got dishwater and caviar dishwater
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you're the weirdest flavors but then you try them and you're
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like fuck yes this is
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delicious yeah like I don't know how I'm gonna feel about
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whatever this one I need
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to improv I took improv for six months it's gone it's gone I
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lost it we need to
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read we should do a whole yeah and Oliver would be into that we
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gotta start our own
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little improv troupe here like oh I love cherries and farts
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flavors yeah exactly so
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SPEAKER_02: Hints of thoughts.
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SPEAKER_02: I will yes and you all day.
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SPEAKER_02: Which,
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SPEAKER_02: oh my god,
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SPEAKER_02: I found out it was a little bit of trivia and now I'm like,
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SPEAKER_02: I might butcher this.
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SPEAKER_02: It was...
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SPEAKER_02: who was the person who started YesAnd?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to have to do one of those three.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you see that?
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Did you see whatever that thing was that gave the history of
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who started YesAnd?
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SPEAKER_01: No,
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SPEAKER_01: but I think somebody was talking about it on the armchair expert,
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SPEAKER_01: the podcast I love so much.
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They had a guest on recently who was talking about their shared
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improv experience
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SPEAKER_01: because one of the hosts,
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SPEAKER_01: Dax,
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SPEAKER_01: did improv as well.
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SPEAKER_01: And
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I can't remember who the guest was or who the person was,
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but they referenced the person.
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SPEAKER_01: They were like, yeah, they started Yes And.
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SPEAKER_01: And they were like, what?
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Like,
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it wasn't like,
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I was thinking it was like Abbott Costello kind of vibe.
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SPEAKER_02: One thing, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But it wasn't, it's somebody else.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's...
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SPEAKER_02: She's got it.
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SPEAKER_02: You and I went to see the movie,
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SPEAKER_02: Weapons,
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and it was in the previews where they were talking about the
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people who went,
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SPEAKER_01: the directors who went from.
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SPEAKER_01: It was the guy who wrote and.
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SPEAKER_01: The birds.
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SPEAKER_01: Was it birds?
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SPEAKER_01: The birds.
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SPEAKER_01: The guy who did Weapons was inspirations.
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SPEAKER_01: Your phone just sounded like it farted.
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SPEAKER_01: It farted or it buzzed.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow, it really did buzz.
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I think I text him and told him what happened and then he's
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probably trying to...
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SPEAKER_01: Okay,
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SPEAKER_01: he's fine.
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SPEAKER_01: Then I'm like quiet and don't answer the phone.
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SPEAKER_01: He thinks I'm dead.
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SPEAKER_01: I was going to say the thing... Who's the director of the bird stuff?
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SPEAKER_01: Holy shit.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going to check him out.
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SPEAKER_01: Does it start with a K?
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SPEAKER_01: Alfred Hitchcock?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: I did it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_02: Alfred Hitchcock was the one who started Yes And.
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SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
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I'm going to make sure that that's right because I was going to
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say I'll have to go back in.
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SPEAKER_02: Alfred Hitchcock.
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SPEAKER_02: Alfred.
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SPEAKER_02: L-A-L-F-E-R-D.
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SPEAKER_02: Alfred.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, and let's see.
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SPEAKER_02: Actually, no.
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SPEAKER_02: No, but he was in, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: It wasn't him addressed.
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SPEAKER_02: No, but he was in an improv group, I guess, is what it was.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm glad that I'm looking at this.
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SPEAKER_01: The person who led the group or something.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yes, and also refers to yes, and thinking.
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SPEAKER_02: It's improvisational comedy, which we know.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, but who invented yes, and?
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: Who started it?
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because i did i did do the coining the phrase hasn't famously
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been attributed to
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anyone it is not formally referenced to in viola spolin's
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improvisation for the
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theater theater or keith johnson's yeah impro although both of
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them allude to
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SPEAKER_01: similar concepts
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it does say was so AI and overview on Google is telling me the
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term yes and was
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created by an improviser and writer Keith Johnstone yeah so I
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think I think he must
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have that wasn't that was cited the the director of weapons was
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talking about so in
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SPEAKER_02: the in the preview at um
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SPEAKER_02: What's the name of the play at the Alamo Draft House?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Which we have free popcorn and a free movie ticket too.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm going by myself to the movie and you're going to go grab popcorn.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: No,
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SPEAKER_02: but he,
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SPEAKER_02: um,
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SPEAKER_02: in the preview,
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they're talking about all of these actors and directors who
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changed their career
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SPEAKER_02: and went from comedy into horror.
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SPEAKER_02: So, um, Jordan Peele.
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SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: Jordan Peele,
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SPEAKER_02: Alfred Hitchcock,
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SPEAKER_02: the writer-director of Weapons,
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SPEAKER_02: whose name is escaping me right now.
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SPEAKER_02: But it's really interesting.
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And it gave me one of those eureka moments where I was like,
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look at that career pivot.
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SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_02: It is really cool.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm in the midst of – I left my job and –
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SPEAKER_02: I have been feeling like I've been staring down the unknown,
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SPEAKER_02: but I know that there's something that I want to go towards.
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And now here we are doing this podcast and I've been doing more
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LinkedIn lives and
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SPEAKER_02: doing lives on Substack.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, this is what I feel pulled to.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's so important to keep a pulse on that stuff too.
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SPEAKER_01: Like as you're getting older, I find a lot of comfort in
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looking up people who got like a late start in like whatever
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they were doing,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: or whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: We talked about Vera Wang in a different episode.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: like anybody who,
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SPEAKER_01: at least Martha Stewart's kind of one of them,
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SPEAKER_01: like just people who,
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SPEAKER_01: yeah,
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like either reinvented themselves or didn't even get successful
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at all until they
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SPEAKER_01: were,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: like way later.
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SPEAKER_02: Like society,
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SPEAKER_02: especially in the U.S.,
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SPEAKER_02: more so in the U.S.,
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SPEAKER_02: let's just focus,
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SPEAKER_02: let's hone in,
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SPEAKER_02: hone in,
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SPEAKER_02: hone in on the U.S.
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SPEAKER_02: and the way...
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SPEAKER_02: Like the programming that we get from society that tells us that,
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SPEAKER_02: and I was talking about this on my Substack Live last night too.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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We have this programming that we're supposed to be speeding up
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all the time,
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SPEAKER_02: that we have to be achieving,
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SPEAKER_02: that we have to be working really hard.
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SPEAKER_02: If we don't work hard, then you won't achieve your goals.
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SPEAKER_02: And the conversation is shifting a lot, but it's not –
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The feeling that we have of putting this pressure on ourselves
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is not shifting as
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SPEAKER_02: quickly as the conversation is.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So...
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The more we talk about it and the more we change the
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programming and the messaging
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SPEAKER_02: around it,
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the more we'll lean into this idea of kind of slowing down and
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going through a
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SPEAKER_02: shift.
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SPEAKER_02: But I don't know what social media started 25 years ago or something,
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SPEAKER_02: maybe a little longer than that.
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our minds and bodies as humans have not adapted to the speed at
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which we move or
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SPEAKER_02: we're expected to move.
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SPEAKER_02: And so a lot of us feel bad about ourselves almost constantly.
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I love that thing I saw the other day on Instagram or something
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where it was like,
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SPEAKER_01: sorry if I've missed your call or not responded to your text.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm living in a world going at the speed that we're going,
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SPEAKER_01: but in a body that's meant to be like eating berries in a cave.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I relate to that so much.
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SPEAKER_01: Yesterday, I was telling you, I felt so...
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SPEAKER_01: like, just kind of fucked up yesterday.
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SPEAKER_01: Like,
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SPEAKER_01: I just felt so disconnected from,
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SPEAKER_01: like,
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it had to do with,
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SPEAKER_01: like,
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some of our conversation and the podcast that we were recording
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or if it's just,
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SPEAKER_01: like,
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SPEAKER_01: sorry.
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SPEAKER_01: No, it's kind of good.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: It feels like the wool gets taken off my face.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know what the expression is.
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SPEAKER_01: I take the wool out of my eyeballs.
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SPEAKER_01: But I just feel like...
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autumn does this to me a lot like I started writing who is that
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bitch but autumn
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does it to me I think one because it's my favorite season and I
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probably also
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because I'm like I was born in autumn so I'm sure there's some
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connection you know
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SPEAKER_01: like primally for me to it but
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SPEAKER_01: And I want to be outside more.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just feel more like, oh yeah, nature.
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SPEAKER_01: Like this is like, you know, I need to like be like rooted more in this.
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And so I was like kicking and screaming to all the things I had
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to do yesterday
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SPEAKER_01: that like that took adulting.
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I had to go teach and I was like driving there just like,
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I don't want to.
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SPEAKER_01: Then I got home.
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SPEAKER_01: And Oliver's like cooking something on the grill.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just kind of like threw my,
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SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't say purse,
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SPEAKER_01: but if I'm being honest,
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SPEAKER_01: it was a fanny pack.
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SPEAKER_01: I threw my fanny pack out.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just kind of schlumped and was like, all right, I did.
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SPEAKER_01: I adulted.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm home.
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SPEAKER_01: I went to the work and I did the job.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I just felt so like a character in my own life or something.
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SPEAKER_01: And it was just weird.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I was like, I'm not meant to be doing this.
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SPEAKER_01: And
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Up until the moment I got stung by a handful of fucking
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hornets,
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I would say I'm outside.
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SPEAKER_01: But then it's so funny because what do I do?
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I run into my beautiful air conditioned shelter with my dogs
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and I reach into my
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SPEAKER_01: medicine cabinet for my,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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medicinal things i bought from a pharmacy that might help my
17:15
butt not feel stingy
17:17
and burny anymore and use my cell phone to call my friend who's
17:21
on her way so we
17:22
can record a podcast and like just the reality checks are
17:26
fucking with my head
17:27
lately i don't know that's where i'm at seasonally well okay
17:31
here's how i feel
17:32
SPEAKER_02: about this did that bring anything up for you interesting yeah right
17:37
SPEAKER_02: So it's funny that you bring up the conveniences and the technology.
17:42
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, that's the thing.
17:44
I think,
17:44
okay,
17:45
so both you and I are Libros talking about being born in autumn
17:47
and everything.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: It's about finding that balance.
17:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
17:53
Of being able to utilize the things that exist now that make
17:57
our lives easier,
17:58
but then also unplugging and going back to basics in as many
18:03
ways as we can.
18:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:04
SPEAKER_01: Not getting sucked into those conveniences like out of habit and only,
18:10
SPEAKER_01: yeah,
18:10
SPEAKER_01: utilizing them like,
18:12
SPEAKER_01: okay,
18:12
SPEAKER_01: it's great that,
18:13
SPEAKER_01: you know,
18:14
SPEAKER_01: Benadryl exists.
18:15
SPEAKER_01: Antibiotics.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: Antibiotics.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: Things like that for sure.
18:19
Like all that stuff is like,
18:20
it's great that,
18:21
you know,
18:21
we have that,
18:22
but...
18:23
yeah i don't know i think that and then i kind of get down on
18:26
myself thinking about
18:27
like how much time i have wasted not being in nature and like
18:32
experiencing it it's
18:34
like it's the same with like working out for me where it's like
18:37
you are like oh you
18:38
know i don't want to do it and then you go to the gym and
18:40
you're like i feel so
18:41
good like you leave and you're like i'm unstoppable like and i
18:46
feel like that where
18:47
SPEAKER_01: i
18:48
I like put down my phone or you know whatever the things I feel
18:51
like I need to do
18:52
fold the freaking laundry like repair something in the house
18:56
I'm like let me just
18:57
go outside and walk with the dogs and it's probably that
19:00
combined energy too of
19:01
like that I know they're having a blast and like the breeze is
19:05
blowing it like
19:06
smells so good I'm just like oh like how can we be out here
19:10
doing this more often
19:11
and how did we get so far away from it I think again going back
19:16
to balance yeah
19:19
If you can be as present as possible in those moments when you
19:24
are outside and you
19:24
SPEAKER_02: are enjoying it,
19:26
you'll appreciate it so much more when you don't have the time
19:31
to be there.
19:31
SPEAKER_00: It's true, yeah.
19:33
It's not reasonable for us to feel like we can stay in one
19:39
moment forever or that we need to.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: And I think, oh, I'm having one of those like Oprah eureka moments.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: No, I think...
19:49
SPEAKER_02: We've talked about this before,
19:51
SPEAKER_02: just we,
19:52
SPEAKER_02: the royal we as a society,
19:53
SPEAKER_02: but you and I have touched on this theme,
19:55
SPEAKER_02: but you need the bad to appreciate the good.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not saying that all of technology is bad or anything.
20:02
SPEAKER_01: No, I know what you mean now.
20:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: But it's more.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: The up moments.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: You appreciate the up moments because of the down moments.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: You appreciate, like if you're constantly just like,
20:13
living on this higher plane or you're down here or you're in
20:17
the mid like you need
20:18
all of the different no it's so levels especially like growing
20:22
up in an area close
20:23
to here and like then you know at whatever age i was 18 being
20:29
like i want to get
20:29
SPEAKER_01: out of here and go explore and and not
20:34
feeling like like i remember when i go out and i am able to
20:38
kind of like rewild out
20:39
here how much i probably took it for granted when i was younger
20:44
because i did that
20:45
all damn day i was like leave the house and go out and like
20:48
come back when it was
20:48
dark and eat dinner and i and it's so true like i i'm now i'm
20:55
now appreciating it
20:57
SPEAKER_01: so much because i was in you know
20:59
for lack of better words,
21:00
like a concrete jungle for,
21:02
you know,
21:03
like whatever time I was in.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you did have horse stables next to your life.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: We did, yes.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's still, it's a big, energetically, it's a big area.
21:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a big area.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: L.A.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: County.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
21:15
It's like there's something about even when you're in those
21:17
little pockets,
21:18
SPEAKER_01: at least for me personally,
21:20
SPEAKER_01: I still feel the buzz of the city that's so close to me,
21:24
SPEAKER_01: like in a in like a not great way,
21:28
SPEAKER_01: like it feels like overwhelming to me.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: I think that you are a highly sensitive personality.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: You pick up on energies.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: It's funny because my mom's mom,
21:40
SPEAKER_02: who I bring up quite a bit,
21:43
SPEAKER_02: she was very woo-woo about a lot of things.
21:45
I remember there was an electric box or something that was
21:51
outside of her house,
21:51
SPEAKER_02: whatever that was.
21:52
You know how sometimes you assume in neighborhoods,
21:54
like the metal cover over it?
21:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, transformer or whatever.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was like on the ground.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it is, but.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Listen, electricians, if you're listening, like just ignore them.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: We're just girls.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:07
Yeah.
22:09
SPEAKER_02: but she swore that she could feel the energy coming off of that.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: And she would like put copper around her room and stuff to try to offset.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: I wish I could tap into her and ask her some advice.
22:23
SPEAKER_02: Well,
22:23
SPEAKER_02: and so many people kind of laughed it off and who knows,
22:27
SPEAKER_02: maybe it's psychosomatic,
22:28
SPEAKER_02: but even if it's not,
22:30
SPEAKER_02: if you feel,
22:30
SPEAKER_02: or even if it is,
22:31
SPEAKER_02: if you feel like you're doing something that,
22:35
um kind of protects you from whatever is going on i mean you
22:40
can go to the the did
22:41
you ever see better call saw after breaking bad so it's it's
22:46
the i know of it it's
22:47
SPEAKER_02: all good man yeah i don't know if i ever so good it's all good man um
22:52
his brother's character in the show is like wearing an aluminum
22:57
foil hat like he's
22:59
that type of yeah he's that type of guy and i'm like you can go
23:04
off the deep end a
23:05
little bit that's why i have friends like you to like pull me
23:08
back in if that
23:08
happens it's a bad yeah i like to be like maybe i don't know
23:12
and i'll be nice about
23:13
SPEAKER_02: it too yeah yeah okay yeah but
23:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't think I'm at tin hat level yet.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: And I hope and knock on wood that I won't get to that point.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I am and have always felt really sensitive to energy.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: And I don't mean like energy.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how to say it.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm not super woo-woo where I'm like, there's a disturbance in the force.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: But I definitely feel like I'm very in tune with other people's just like
23:42
energy yeah i'm very in tune with yeah like that it bothered me
23:46
a lot because there
23:47
was there's so much about the city that i enjoy and that in
23:51
small doses like i i
23:52
appreciate and i understand but personally it sometimes almost
23:57
pains me to be there
23:58
because it just feels like whatever that that chatter that hum
24:03
that like vibration
24:04
is like doesn't ever stop and i don't feel like i get a moment
24:08
of like physical or
24:09
SPEAKER_01: emotional peace
24:10
yeah well it's interesting because this resonates with me very
24:14
deeply i know very
24:15
similarly to the way that you do when we were living in our
24:19
condo constantly there
24:20
was there were always loud sounds happening at random yeah so
24:24
like somebody would
24:25
go by with their loud exhaust oh my god yeah or stereo system
24:29
yeah or like the the
24:31
SPEAKER_02: new um american muscle cars were just like yeah you know
24:36
My bandwidth for disruptions and noises was so tiny living
24:41
there that any little
24:43
SPEAKER_02: thing would set me off.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:45
SPEAKER_02: And then when we moved to Eagle Rock on a residential street,
24:49
SPEAKER_02: because we were sharing walls,
24:51
SPEAKER_02: it was a very heavily multi-unit,
24:55
SPEAKER_02: multi-family unit.
24:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all those stairs you had to go up.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: But the whole street was just a lot of... It was just...
25:03
busy yeah um and that would have been true with any
25:07
neighborhood if we're living in
25:09
a place where it's busy except the West Hollywood neighborhood
25:13
it was still busy
25:13
but it didn't quite have that same effect on me um but when we
25:18
moved into our place
25:19
SPEAKER_02: in Eagle Rock we're on a street with
25:23
single family homes there's a park like diagonally across the
25:26
street then there's
25:27
the community garden that i now have a bed in it's an it's
25:32
night and day so like
25:33
before if i would hear somebody's weed whacker i would have
25:38
been like oh my god i
25:39
SPEAKER_02: can't believe that i'm hearing a weed whacker and now
25:43
SPEAKER_02: Now,
25:44
sometimes if I'm sitting on the front porch and just trying to
25:47
read my book and I'm
25:48
SPEAKER_02: having a nice quiet moment and I hear birds chirping and all that,
25:51
SPEAKER_02: if I hear a disruption in that moment,
25:53
SPEAKER_02: I'll get a little irritated.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: But I don't lose my complete peace over it in the way that I used to.
26:00
So I think this is exactly the same thing that you're talking
26:04
about where…
26:06
if you if your bar is already at neutral yeah you can handle
26:12
something else that's
26:13
a disruption but if you're already if your bar is at a place
26:17
where you're feeling
26:18
buzzy already any other little thing is just gonna set you off
26:23
so much more easily
26:24
SPEAKER_01: so you are you're peaceful here it's very true but then also yes and
26:32
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
26:32
SPEAKER_01: I was projecting,
26:33
SPEAKER_01: like I was,
26:34
SPEAKER_01: it's me,
26:35
SPEAKER_01: this is my experience,
26:35
SPEAKER_01: but I feel like that's what you're saying.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: That's like,
26:38
SPEAKER_01: that's part of it,
26:39
SPEAKER_01: but then it's almost like a tier above that where,
26:43
SPEAKER_01: like where we lived in Agora Hills,
26:45
wasn't there wasn't loud loud noise it's like it was actually
26:51
very quiet like we
26:53
would hear you know they would play like mariachi sometimes at
26:56
the barn in the
26:57
mornings and all these things that were very joyful sounds but
27:00
there's there's just
27:01
something where it's like i felt physically a buzz like i just
27:06
felt like i know
27:07
SPEAKER_01: just over the hill there's like
27:10
a bunch of traffic on pch and there's like just over the hill
27:13
that way it's like
27:14
hustle and bustle of you know like those it was like even even
27:18
that removed from it
27:20
it was like i knew i i like physically felt it so even like i
27:25
mean yes there wasn't
27:26
like many you know loud like police cars or something like
27:30
where we were at it's
27:31
not like i would hear stuff like that it was very quiet and
27:34
very peaceful but
27:36
i was surprised too to kind of recognize after being there for
27:40
a while like i still
27:42
know i'm in the city like i still know i'm in a big city i just
27:46
happen to be in
27:47
this small little pocket up on this hill that's like further
27:51
removed from it than
27:52
SPEAKER_01: when i first moved there
27:55
SPEAKER_01: And I don't have the same feeling here,
27:57
SPEAKER_01: which is funny because we're still close to some big cities here.
28:01
I think it was just the awareness of you just didn't want to be
28:07
in that circumstance anymore.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: You have your mind.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: You moved to Nantucket, very small, very confined.
28:14
um small space you just don't have you're like I'm I'm moving
28:20
past this now this is
28:21
not the state of yeah of this is not the the the the mental and
28:27
physical space I
28:28
want to be in anymore plus it almost I'm sure it probably felt
28:31
like going backwards
28:32
SPEAKER_02: a little bit too because you had already left
28:35
yeah it's tough like yeah being there and like yeah the the
28:38
production industry
28:39
having kind of like tanked a little in that moment and all that
28:42
so yeah it but
28:43
again it like kind of circles back to those like moments where
28:47
we talk about being
28:50
in tune with like what like the older you get you get more in
28:56
tune with what works
28:57
SPEAKER_01: for you and what doesn't and i think that
29:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, I needed to go to L.A.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: I needed to, like, see what it was like.
29:04
And I wouldn't know that that affected me the way that it did
29:09
if I hadn't gone.
29:10
SPEAKER_01: And honestly,
29:11
SPEAKER_01: if I hadn't gone,
29:12
SPEAKER_01: left and then went back and realized again,
29:15
SPEAKER_01: oh,
29:15
SPEAKER_01: yeah,
29:15
SPEAKER_01: this is why I didn't like it here.
29:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't like that feeling I have.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: of like,
29:21
SPEAKER_01: even if I'm not in the thick of it,
29:23
SPEAKER_01: like,
29:23
SPEAKER_01: you know,
29:23
SPEAKER_01: at,
29:24
SPEAKER_01: cause like you said,
29:24
SPEAKER_01: like I could go out,
29:26
SPEAKER_01: I went out a lot and like,
29:27
SPEAKER_01: I could go out and be around it and like,
29:30
SPEAKER_01: you know,
29:31
SPEAKER_01: but,
29:32
SPEAKER_01: and if I'm going to it to like celebrate or go see music or whatever,
29:35
SPEAKER_01: it's like,
29:36
SPEAKER_01: that's different.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: But in,
29:37
SPEAKER_01: in my environment that I'm like in and living and trying to find peace,
29:42
SPEAKER_01: like I'm pretty sensitive.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: And I think there's a lot more people out there.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: There are some people who really do know that about themselves.
29:52
But then I think there's a lot of people who aren't aware of
29:57
what's going on within
29:59
SPEAKER_02: their bodies and the reactions that they're having.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: Or it does feed them and they do feel really energized.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: You know,
30:05
SPEAKER_01: it's like that whatever differences they have,
30:08
SPEAKER_01: it's like they really do genuinely enjoy and find like –
30:13
SPEAKER_01: you know, like not thrill, but they find like growth in that.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: It feels expansive.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
30:21
SPEAKER_01: Expansive.
30:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: And I think,
30:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
30:25
SPEAKER_02: I like the,
30:26
SPEAKER_02: I find myself being here in back in home,
30:29
SPEAKER_02: back at home in Charlottesville for the time being,
30:33
SPEAKER_02: um,
30:34
I find myself appreciating things about my home and my space
30:39
and my area back in.
30:41
SPEAKER_02: Eagle Rock.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: In LA.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: And I,
30:48
think i just wish like i'm hoping that i can figure out a way
30:51
to marry the time you
30:53
know yeah the fact that you i know you love like your coffee
30:56
walks like you can
30:57
walk to it coffee and that's like not something i mean you
31:01
could do that here kind
31:02
of eagle rock is such a community yeah such a special place in
31:07
la and in northeast
31:08
SPEAKER_02: la northeast la in general is just a very special place and it's not
31:14
It's not busy in the way the rest of the like central Los
31:17
Angeles feels because
31:20
it's kind of like here where I can get from one place to
31:24
another within 10 to 15
31:25
SPEAKER_02: minutes.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: And there's not that much traffic there in general.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: And that has been a huge relief.
31:32
That's been exactly the thing that you were talking about with
31:35
getting away from.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: That's my version of getting away from the buzziness.
31:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: Because it just feels very accessible and approachable.
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