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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kane on demand. Listen live
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- 0:19Speaker 2: You've had a lot of completions to Jaylen Waddell already
- 0:21Speaker 2: in camp. What's it been like working with him? What
- 0:23Speaker 2: type of receiver is he on the field.
- 0:26Speaker 3: He's an explosive playmaker. Guy's really good at what he does.
- 0:30Speaker 3: He gets open, he makes plays, He's fast, he's really explosive.
- 0:34Speaker 3: He's great ball in hand, he's great going to getting
- 0:36Speaker 3: the ball deep. He's great you know in screen game.
- 0:38Speaker 3: He can do just a lot of things. He's very versatile.
- 0:41Speaker 3: So he adds an extra element to our offense and
- 0:45Speaker 3: it's exciting.
- 0:46Speaker 4: Man.
- 0:46Speaker 2: We got a lot of different weapons that.
- 0:48Speaker 3: We're using, and I think top to bottom, this is
- 0:52Speaker 3: just a really strong team, really good and we just
- 0:55Speaker 3: got to find what works for us and find ways
- 0:58Speaker 3: to utilize all our all our tools.
- 1:01Speaker 2: That was bow Nicks addressing the media on Saturday after
- 1:05Speaker 2: another padded practice where the offense continued to hum a
- 1:08Speaker 2: little bounce back from the defense as well. It's Moje,
- 1:11Speaker 2: Lombardi and Kane Alex Ryan Emi filling in for Kaner
- 1:15Speaker 2: this week, alongside Vic Lombardi and Mark Moser. We will
- 1:18Speaker 2: have Demani Leech joining us at some point today live
- 1:22Speaker 2: from Broncos Park. All of our coverage this year brought
- 1:24Speaker 2: to you by our friends at Ramos Law. Will hang
- 1:27Speaker 2: out with you guys until ten am and then the
- 1:29Speaker 2: Altitude Training Camp show from ten am to two. But
- 1:32Speaker 2: we will start with their guys, Bo Nicks addressing the
- 1:36Speaker 2: media and talking about the star connection he and Jalen Wattle.
- 1:40Speaker 5: No, we will start with the waft, the smell that
- 1:43Speaker 5: exists here in this tent because they just changed out
- 1:46Speaker 5: the porta potty right behind us. I saw the truck
- 1:48Speaker 5: pull out as I was walking in. We're gonna start
- 1:51Speaker 5: with that because it is unokay real right now. I
- 1:55Speaker 5: don't know if you guys notice it. We used to
- 1:57Speaker 5: do the show.
- 1:58Speaker 6: See the court of the bleachers over there, Yeah, we
- 2:00Speaker 6: used to do the show there back in the day.
- 2:02Speaker 6: Potties were right behind it in that player what is
- 2:04Speaker 6: the players parking lot? Yeah, and it was a it
- 2:07Speaker 6: was a yearly tradition. Yeah, you know you're talking about
- 2:09Speaker 6: six thirty in the morning.
- 2:11Speaker 4: Uh huh.
- 2:11Speaker 6: Six forty five in the morning. They got you know,
- 2:14Speaker 6: big back it. It'll get you.
- 2:18Speaker 2: It coincided, it got guys showing up. It'll get you.
- 2:21Speaker 2: It did forty five minutes of the show without having
- 2:23Speaker 2: to have that stink in.
- 2:25Speaker 4: It's pretty bad. I'll wake you up in the morning.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Well, it ain't the same porta potties because last year
- 2:30Speaker 2: the porta potties back here were the.
- 2:32Speaker 4: Real nice one.
- 2:33Speaker 6: Yeah, the luxury ones once you get the masters, those
- 2:35Speaker 6: are now those are now right over there.
- 2:37Speaker 4: We're media, We don't know. We don't need the luxury
- 2:39Speaker 4: porta posts.
- 2:40Speaker 2: My question is, no, we can't get there the old
- 2:43Speaker 2: player's bathroom, which is no longer being used by players
- 2:46Speaker 2: because well they have new ones on the west side
- 2:49Speaker 2: of the facility.
- 2:50Speaker 4: A couple of guys have gone in there.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Listen, Am I going to get kicked out if I
- 2:52Speaker 2: go in there?
- 2:53Speaker 4: Now? A couple of guys have used that.
- 2:54Speaker 5: Listen to me, Listen to me, listen, listen very closely,
- 2:57Speaker 5: all right, listen, very very closely. I'm going to be
- 2:59Speaker 5: here today until about one o'clock because I'm doing post interviews.
- 3:03Speaker 5: We're gonna sit down with Zach Allen today okay. Part
- 3:06Speaker 5: of our Altitude TV coverage of this whole event with
- 3:09Speaker 5: Altitude Sports Radio. At no point would you see me
- 3:12Speaker 5: use this bathroom. I don't care how badly I have
- 3:15Speaker 5: to go. It's not going to happen. I'm not going
- 3:18Speaker 5: in there, not after what I just saw and smelled.
- 3:20Speaker 5: That's not happening. So I don't know who invented these things.
- 3:24Speaker 5: I don't know how you maintain these things. I'm not
- 3:26Speaker 5: doing it.
- 3:27Speaker 6: Honestly, we're lucky we have that. I was told the
- 3:29Speaker 6: first time, Hey, there's a bush over across the street.
- 3:32Speaker 5: Well, I'd rather have a bush. You go, okay, Well
- 3:34Speaker 5: then you got I would much rather have a bush.
- 3:36Speaker 5: I'm not doing it. So we can talk football all day.
- 3:40Speaker 5: We can have our phone with the Broncos. I'm not
- 3:42Speaker 5: using that.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Don't we use it? Okay, find your way into one
- 3:44Speaker 2: of the seven other bathrooms that we have in front
- 3:47Speaker 2: of us right now. Back to Bow and his connection
- 3:51Speaker 2: with his brand new toy that they parted ways with
- 3:54Speaker 2: first round pick plus in Jalen Waddle. It's been it's
- 3:57Speaker 2: been the focus of camp so far, our ability to
- 4:00Speaker 2: use Jalen Waddle in largely any position. He kind of
- 4:05Speaker 2: echoed what Sean Payton told me. I asked the question,
- 4:08Speaker 2: do you see Jalen as Brandon Cooks? And Peyton had
- 4:12Speaker 2: Cooks back in twenty sixteen and seventeen with the Saints,
- 4:15Speaker 2: and he was phenomenal. He's a twelve hundred yard receiver
- 4:17Speaker 2: and caught, you know, eight nine touchdowns a year. But
- 4:19Speaker 2: he was an outside guy. He was below the top
- 4:22Speaker 2: off the defense. And Sean went, I can use Brandon
- 4:25Speaker 2: kind of one way. I can use Jalen in a
- 4:27Speaker 2: multitude of different ways. It seems so far in the
- 4:31Speaker 2: early going of camp it's been a home run acquisition.
- 4:34Speaker 5: Well, he brings an element that this team has desperately needed.
- 4:38Speaker 5: He allows you to throw the dink and dunk stuff
- 4:41Speaker 5: and do something with it.
- 4:42Speaker 4: Right.
- 4:43Speaker 5: We have seen the Broncos do that short game passing
- 4:46Speaker 5: and it results in short gains.
- 4:48Speaker 4: Then that's it. Now you got a guy.
- 4:50Speaker 5: You can throw it five yards to and he can
- 4:53Speaker 5: break it anytime, and that changes everything. That makes the
- 4:56Speaker 5: defense come up and respect that player all day, and
- 4:59Speaker 5: it'll allows other players to open up.
- 5:01Speaker 4: That's an excellent point.
- 5:02Speaker 6: And Raj I look at it like this, Okay, he's
- 5:05Speaker 6: not you know, your t Higgins, he's not your Jefferson.
- 5:08Speaker 4: He's not you know, he's not let's say he's not
- 5:10Speaker 4: that caliber of a wide out.
- 5:12Speaker 6: Okay, I agree, but he doesn't have to be in
- 5:16Speaker 6: order to make this offense's bit just enunciated more dynamic
- 5:20Speaker 6: because of what he can bring to the table and
- 5:23Speaker 6: what it does for other players and what it does
- 5:25Speaker 6: for his quarterback. So I'm hoping and I'm thinking that
- 5:29Speaker 6: that's what we are going to see on a weekly basis.
- 5:32Speaker 6: I mean, that would be the ultimate idea that you
- 5:34Speaker 6: don't you don't need to bring in one of these
- 5:37Speaker 6: stars studded, insane wideouts and everything that comes with it.
- 5:41Speaker 6: But you bring in a guy who's gonna fit and
- 5:43Speaker 6: you're going to work with and you're going to maneuver around,
- 5:45Speaker 6: and a guy who can, as Vic said, take small,
- 5:49Speaker 6: small receptions into big plays. But it's gonna help everybody
- 5:52Speaker 6: else out. So it's a it's a really good fit.
- 5:54Speaker 2: So if he's not Brandon Cooks, is he Emmanuel Sanders? Uh?
- 5:59Speaker 6: I think I'd say a little bit like that. Yeah,
- 6:01Speaker 6: he's a quicker version of that. I agree with that, Yeah,
- 6:03Speaker 6: but his ability to play underneath, Yeah, but I thought
- 6:06Speaker 6: Emmanuel Moore was an outside guy as well. I mean
- 6:08Speaker 6: he can stretch the field, he can go sideline. I mean,
- 6:10Speaker 6: this guy's more of a scat receiver. So I mean,
- 6:13Speaker 6: we'll see. I can't wait to see how they use him.
- 6:16Speaker 6: I can't wait to see how he is utilized in
- 6:18Speaker 6: this offense. I can tell you this, watching the offense
- 6:22Speaker 6: already through three days of practice, it's pretty exciting.
- 6:25Speaker 4: Dude, they got some ballers.
- 6:26Speaker 2: When's the last time that you saw the offense clicking
- 6:28Speaker 2: this early in a camp.
- 6:29Speaker 5: Usually twelve three. You're so right, it's the exact opposite.
- 6:33Speaker 5: If you've ever been out to a training camp, the
- 6:35Speaker 5: defense's strides ahead always, they set the pace typically off.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Also, you tell people not to show up until like
- 6:41Speaker 2: a weekend, because if you're sitting out here on that
- 6:44Speaker 2: first Friday or even you know, today, tomorrow and Wednesday,
- 6:47Speaker 2: you're not gonna see fireworks. You're not gonna see fantasy
- 6:50Speaker 2: football type of training camp until a week a week
- 6:53Speaker 2: and a half in. But that's not the case this year.
- 6:54Speaker 5: Well, I love the fact that the Broncos already are
- 6:57Speaker 5: not afraid to open up the offense early in camp.
- 7:00Speaker 4: You know, and let guys make mistakes.
- 7:02Speaker 5: Peyton Mann used to always say, it's okay to throw
- 7:04Speaker 5: interceptions in camp.
- 7:06Speaker 4: It's all right.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Don't tell that to the Cleveland Brown, but it's okay.
- 7:08Speaker 4: And that's that's where you make your mistakes.
- 7:11Speaker 5: And these quarterbacks at least are opening things up early
- 7:14Speaker 5: to make it fun.
- 7:15Speaker 4: I will say.
- 7:16Speaker 6: I will say this though, watching some of these drills,
- 7:18Speaker 6: and I love the drill where they have two quarterbacks
- 7:20Speaker 6: going back at the same time and you know, throwing passes.
- 7:23Speaker 6: I guess you're getting twice the work in well the
- 7:25Speaker 6: defense right now, Raj. Basically, what they're telling the defense
- 7:29Speaker 6: just sort of be there and be in the way.
- 7:32Speaker 6: You know, don't don't try to knock any balls down,
- 7:34Speaker 6: don't try to you know, don't try to defend. I mean,
- 7:38Speaker 6: and this is no offense to the crowd because the
- 7:40Speaker 6: people who are here they want something to cheer for.
- 7:43Speaker 6: I mean, that's why when the rookies come running out
- 7:44Speaker 6: and try to the crowd just goes insane.
- 7:46Speaker 4: Right that.
- 7:46Speaker 6: You know, guys that they won't see on the roster
- 7:49Speaker 6: this season are getting the crowd fired up. But they
- 7:51Speaker 6: want things to be excited about that, So Saturday again,
- 7:55Speaker 6: Riley Moss is he's uh, I forget who it was
- 7:58Speaker 6: coming down the sideline, but Moss stops short and this
- 8:01Speaker 6: guy now runs free for about nine yards and then
- 8:04Speaker 6: makes a reception for a touchdown and the crowd goes crazy.
- 8:07Speaker 4: So Moss just surrendered him.
- 8:09Speaker 6: And that's what the defense is doing right now. The
- 8:11Speaker 6: defense is surrendering at the end of these plays, is
- 8:14Speaker 6: what they're doing. So they're not really trying to defend.
- 8:16Speaker 6: They're not trying to knock balls down and not trying to.
- 8:18Speaker 4: They don't want collisions.
- 8:19Speaker 6: No, they don't want any of that. They want so
- 8:21Speaker 6: the offense is going to look crisp and good. But
- 8:24Speaker 6: if this defense had an opportunity to kind of get it,
- 8:27Speaker 6: I get his claws into things, you might see more
- 8:29Speaker 6: bad balls and more picks.
- 8:30Speaker 4: And more everything.
- 8:30Speaker 5: It's interesting that you say that because the question, I
- 8:33Speaker 5: don't know if you guys get this. I got it
- 8:34Speaker 5: again yesterday. How does bowl look? How does Bowl look?
- 8:38Speaker 5: How does Bowl look? And my answer is always going
- 8:40Speaker 5: to be the same. He looks healthy. That's where I'll start,
- 8:43Speaker 5: and that's all you can say. He looks healthy. The
- 8:46Speaker 5: last time we saw Boon Nicks. He was lipping off
- 8:48Speaker 5: a field at Mile High Stadium. That's the last time
- 8:50Speaker 5: we saw him in a football uniform doing anything. So
- 8:53Speaker 5: health is very important, and he said it over the weekend.
- 8:56Speaker 5: He's not going to change the way he plays boys.
- 8:59Speaker 5: He doesn't plan on it.
- 9:00Speaker 4: He shouldn't. That's the way he has to play in
- 9:02Speaker 4: order to be effective.
- 9:03Speaker 2: He was a three hundred I think if he's a
- 9:06Speaker 2: three hundred yard rusher this year with three or four touchdowns,
- 9:09Speaker 2: that's all you can ask for. Right, You're not wanting
- 9:12Speaker 2: to run that guy for five, six, seven hundred yards,
- 9:16Speaker 2: not wanting to turn him into Josh Allen. I think
- 9:19Speaker 2: that's a mistake. But in order like you don't want
- 9:21Speaker 2: to neuter the player either.
- 9:23Speaker 6: His wheels, though, are too good. His wheels are too
- 9:25Speaker 6: good not to utilize. And again, he was never a
- 9:27Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson type of guy, right, He's not a Josh
- 9:30Speaker 6: Allen kind of guy.
- 9:31Speaker 4: He's faster than he looks though, but he is, And
- 9:33Speaker 4: that's exactly right.
- 9:34Speaker 6: So yeah, Roj, I mean, look, he's got to play
- 9:36Speaker 6: that kind of game in order to be the Bonix
- 9:39Speaker 6: that we know we can be.
- 9:40Speaker 2: To take what you said about Saturday's practice in Riley
- 9:43Speaker 2: Moss holding off and then he gets beat down the sideline.
- 9:46Speaker 2: I wonder if that's a reaction to what happened on Friday.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Late in practice, there were a couple of times where
- 9:52Speaker 2: defensive backs and I actually do think Riley Moss was
- 9:54Speaker 2: one of them. It was either Marvin Mims or is
- 9:56Speaker 2: Troy Franklin that got over the top caught the ball
- 9:59Speaker 2: on like the three yard line. Both of them went
- 10:01Speaker 2: down to the ground, and that wasn't a padded practice
- 10:04Speaker 2: that they were in. I wonder if that's a reaction
- 10:06Speaker 2: to a couple of plays happening where both players go
- 10:08Speaker 2: down to the ground. Yeah, that's the kids from the UFL.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Keem what's his last name?
- 10:15Speaker 4: The He looked h.
- 10:22Speaker 2: So I'll say you, I don't have the roster in
- 10:24Speaker 2: front of me. He was the he was the Butler Butler,
- 10:27Speaker 2: that's exactly. He was the offensive player of the year.
- 10:29Speaker 6: By the way, I sat here right in front of
- 10:32Speaker 6: this tent, and I watched him run several routes right
- 10:36Speaker 6: at me and make several catches right at me here,
- 10:38Speaker 6: and but I looked at this guy and I'm like,
- 10:43Speaker 6: he's he's big.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Is there room for him on the team. I don't
- 10:48Speaker 2: I don't know the wide receivers that they have available
- 10:51Speaker 2: to them.
- 10:52Speaker 4: He's he's he's a big dude. He's a big guy.
- 10:55Speaker 2: He is a Sean Payton receiver.
- 10:56Speaker 4: Yeah, he is. He's a big dude. They could practice
- 10:58Speaker 4: squad him. That's that's an easy move.
- 11:01Speaker 5: I mean, there's no reason why they Now, let's be
- 11:03Speaker 5: honest about it, too. Okay, he's the UFL Player of
- 11:05Speaker 5: the Year.
- 11:05Speaker 4: Whatever. He's also thirty years old.
- 11:08Speaker 6: Okay, he's had cups of coffee in the National Football
- 11:11Speaker 6: League in the last almost decade. Okay, so let's not
- 11:14Speaker 6: come in here and pretend to this guy. Oh yeah, hey,
- 11:16Speaker 6: don't count him out. The Nuggets just signed a guy.
- 11:19Speaker 6: I'm not counting anybody out. I'm just saying there's a
- 11:21Speaker 6: reason he's thirty years old and was not on an
- 11:23Speaker 6: NFL roster last year.
- 11:24Speaker 4: Okay, So let's let's just you know what, the chill out.
- 11:27Speaker 5: Sometimes in NFL circles, you age out in the eyes
- 11:30Speaker 5: of scouts and coaches. You age out. Guy gets past
- 11:33Speaker 5: twenty five and he hasn't made it.
- 11:34Speaker 4: Oh, well, he's too old.
- 11:36Speaker 5: I bet you're gonna start finding older dudes who go
- 11:40Speaker 5: in in this other league, the UFL, and find and
- 11:44Speaker 5: carve out a niche somewhere somehow, coach will believe in them,
- 11:47Speaker 5: and maybe that's the kind of guy that doesn't. We'll
- 11:49Speaker 5: see people mature at different rates. Man, that's true. I
- 11:52Speaker 5: didn't hit I didn't hit puberty until I was thirty
- 11:54Speaker 5: three years.
- 11:55Speaker 4: To copy that, yep, already with a couple.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Of l Yeah, it's just a stunted pituitary click.
- 12:03Speaker 4: You know what happens pretty much.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna see that happen more in the NBA too.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Now that the Nuggets have like taken a dive into
- 12:11Speaker 2: the European leagues and sign a player that like they
- 12:14Speaker 2: expect to be a true rotational player for them.
- 12:17Speaker 5: Well, let's see if Diallo can play, if the Allo
- 12:19Speaker 5: can play and at least contribute offensive league, because that's
- 12:22Speaker 5: what the only the only stumbling block there is. Can
- 12:26Speaker 5: he play at all offensively? We've seen the defense. I mean,
- 12:29Speaker 5: if you can defend, you can defend anywhere. But can
- 12:31Speaker 5: he make an open shot? And that's gonna determine how
- 12:34Speaker 5: much playing.
- 12:34Speaker 4: Time he gets.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Really, even though they even though they're gonna be able
- 12:37Speaker 2: to spread the ball.
- 12:38Speaker 4: Because you're gonna leave them open. Because we've seen that before.
- 12:41Speaker 5: We have If you can't make a shot in the NBA,
- 12:44Speaker 5: defenses are designed to leave you open.
- 12:46Speaker 4: They want you to shoot. I mean early in Aaron
- 12:48Speaker 4: Gordon's career, they left him.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Open until he transformed himself into a three point exactly right.
- 12:54Speaker 5: Christian Brown's had that problem. They left him open. So
- 12:57Speaker 5: in the NBA, you've got to make those shots or
- 12:59Speaker 5: they'll leave you open.
- 13:00Speaker 4: You know, it's sort of you know, it's sort of weird.
- 13:02Speaker 6: Aaron Gordon's injury, his his bad injury history sort of
- 13:07Speaker 6: coincided after he took like eight billion jumpers in his
- 13:10Speaker 6: house and it's sort of knocked him down from distance.
- 13:13Speaker 4: Just build a Jimmy, but just don't just don't have
- 13:16Speaker 4: that me Hammy go heywire.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Don't you wish that was the fixed it. They did
- 13:20Speaker 2: a documentary where Shaq let a bunch of cameras into
- 13:23Speaker 2: his house and Shaq was like, I'm a ninety percent
- 13:26Speaker 2: for your throw shooter at home. I sit here for
- 13:28Speaker 2: hours by myself shooting from the strike.
- 13:31Speaker 4: But it's like the three foot putt when you're on
- 13:32Speaker 4: the on the range. Oh yeah, you can.
- 13:34Speaker 2: You can hit it on a practice screen in a match,
- 13:36Speaker 2: you can't do it. Vixing me miss those?
- 13:38Speaker 5: I've seen me miss those, you know, I never missed those.
- 13:41Speaker 5: Speaking of practice and and just getting here early, we've
- 13:45Speaker 5: seen fans here early.
- 13:47Speaker 4: But who is that on the field right now? Is
- 13:49Speaker 4: that who I think it is? Is that Brandon Jones?
- 13:53Speaker 2: Or no, I don't think that's Brandon Jones. I think
- 13:55Speaker 2: that's a white dude.
- 13:57Speaker 5: Okay, well I'm colorblind. I read over the weekend Brandon Jones.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Should we all be backed?
- 14:06Speaker 5: Brandon Jones gets to the pool here at the Broncos
- 14:09Speaker 5: facility at four in the morning, and he does this
- 14:12Speaker 5: throughout camp.
- 14:13Speaker 4: He probably does it throughout the season.
- 14:15Speaker 5: Do you understand the level of commitment to be able
- 14:18Speaker 5: to do that on a daily basis?
- 14:20Speaker 2: Tools are pretty nice, but four.
- 14:22Speaker 5: Am to go swim and to do his routine before practice.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Do they have sleeping quarters here?
- 14:28Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm sure there's pods. He used to be.
- 14:31Speaker 5: There's gotta be some pods sleep here. He used to
- 14:34Speaker 5: go to a rec center to find a pool.
- 14:37Speaker 4: Come on, yes, yes, he went.
- 14:39Speaker 5: To a rec center and and swam his laps. That's
- 14:42Speaker 5: part of his routine, and now he does it here.
- 14:45Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what's more oppressive, because I
- 14:48Speaker 5: can't swim at all, the fact that he's doing it
- 14:51Speaker 5: at four am, or is that he's doing it every
- 14:53Speaker 5: day before practice sessions.
- 14:55Speaker 2: Three oh three, five oh four oh nine two five
- 14:57Speaker 2: is where he can reach us its altitude training camp.
- 14:59Speaker 2: All of our coverage brought to.
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- 15:02Speaker 2: On the other side, I can't wait to hear your
- 15:04Speaker 2: guys take on this. The Dodgers continue to ruin baseball.
- 15:07Speaker 2: They land Trek Scooble this year.
- 15:10Speaker 7: Forget a top three I keep saying it. People think
- 15:13Speaker 7: I'm crazy, but I'm gonna be number one and I'm
- 15:15Speaker 7: gonna keep it there for the whole year, you know,
- 15:17Speaker 7: seventeen games.
- 15:19Speaker 4: A lot of people always get mad when.
- 15:21Speaker 7: I say, yeah, the injuries are over because I said
- 15:22Speaker 7: it last year, but that one was pretty fluky, right
- 15:27Speaker 7: this year, that won't be any and there won't be
- 15:30Speaker 7: anything for anyone to say about my injuries because I'm
- 15:33Speaker 7: gonna play all seventeen games and I'm gonna get my
- 15:36Speaker 7: team everything I got for all seventeen games, and I
- 15:38Speaker 7: will be there for all seventeen games. I'll pick your promise,
- 15:42Speaker 7: all of you right now about.
- 15:44Speaker 2: That, Mosie Lombardi and Kane Altitude Sports Radio ninety two
- 15:48Speaker 2: to five RAJ filling in for Kaner.
- 15:50Speaker 4: This week.
- 15:51Speaker 2: We are out live at a hazy Broncos Park, powered
- 15:54Speaker 2: by Common Spirit. All of our coverage brought to you,
- 15:57Speaker 2: guys by our friends at the Ramos Law Group. We
- 16:01Speaker 2: will get into how the Dodgers have effectively ended baseball
- 16:05Speaker 2: as we know it. If it wasn't already over, it's
- 16:07Speaker 2: over as if yesterday with the Trek Scoopl trade that momentarily.
- 16:11Speaker 2: But that was JK. Dobbins on Friday after practice making
- 16:14Speaker 2: a pinky promise to Broncos Country that he will play
- 16:18Speaker 2: seventeen football.
- 16:19Speaker 4: I really appreciate JK. Dobbins's attitude toward his career, toward life.
- 16:24Speaker 5: You could tell he's a glass half full. He's an optimist.
- 16:27Speaker 5: It's infectious. At times. I wish I were more that way.
- 16:30Speaker 5: I'm almost the opposite when it comes to stuff like that.
- 16:33Speaker 5: I'm a dweller.
- 16:34Speaker 4: He's not.
- 16:35Speaker 5: He's moving on. He's promising that he's not going to
- 16:38Speaker 5: get hurt again. He's expecting not to get hurt again.
- 16:40Speaker 5: I love it, but it's not reality. Sometimes it's just
- 16:44Speaker 5: the way you cope and coping. People cope differently.
- 16:47Speaker 4: He's yeah, you're you're telling me I mean to get
- 16:50Speaker 4: through a season. Yeah, you and I.
- 16:53Speaker 6: Are are probably completely different with how we would cope
- 16:56Speaker 6: with this kind of thing. But it doesn't mean that
- 16:58Speaker 6: it's doesn't mean that it's a bad victim. But in
- 17:02Speaker 6: five years in the league, he's never played seventeen games.
- 17:05Speaker 6: He played fifteen games as a rookie in Baltimore, right, okay, good,
- 17:10Speaker 6: But beyond that, then he played eight, then he played one.
- 17:12Speaker 6: Then with the Chargers, and I thought he was pretty
- 17:14Speaker 6: effective with the Chargers. He had nine hundred and five
- 17:17Speaker 6: yards rushing on one hundred and ninety five carries.
- 17:21Speaker 4: But in thirteen games.
- 17:22Speaker 2: He was exactly who he was with the Broncosh Okay,
- 17:25Speaker 2: and the same thing happened. He got hurt at the
- 17:26Speaker 2: end of the season. Wasn't available at the biggest movies.
- 17:28Speaker 6: And that's so when you say to yourself, Okay, well
- 17:30Speaker 6: why was he even available. Why did the Chargers actually
- 17:33Speaker 6: let him go? You know, I mean because he was
- 17:36Speaker 6: effective for them when he was on the field, and
- 17:38Speaker 6: then he comes here and it's the same thing.
- 17:40Speaker 4: I love his optimism as well. Vic.
- 17:42Speaker 6: I think it's great and I hope to God it's true,
- 17:44Speaker 6: because I think this guy is a heck of a
- 17:47Speaker 6: player and he's honestly, he was one of the two
- 17:51Speaker 6: handfuls of best backs in the league last year before
- 17:54Speaker 6: he got hurt. Maybe better than that, but that's just
- 17:57Speaker 6: so unpredictable and past history would tell you that that's
- 18:00Speaker 6: now what it's going to be.
- 18:01Speaker 5: But there are people, though, who cope with this kind
- 18:05Speaker 5: of stuff by always expounding the optimists, right, always saying, hey,
- 18:10Speaker 5: this is.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Not an issue, it's a but it is an issue.
- 18:14Speaker 5: That's the truth. It is an issue. It's been an issue.
- 18:16Speaker 5: He's had three major injuries on one leg. When you
- 18:19Speaker 5: play that position, you are at risk to get injured
- 18:22Speaker 5: all the time. So how do the Broncos The question
- 18:25Speaker 5: I asked, how do the Broncos keep him in the
- 18:28Speaker 5: lineup without risking that kind of injury again.
- 18:31Speaker 4: Because it was a fluke. It was a fluke.
- 18:33Speaker 5: He got hip dropped last year, right, it was one
- 18:35Speaker 5: of those hip drop techles.
- 18:38Speaker 4: What do you do?
- 18:39Speaker 2: I don't know, you can't play him in the preseason,
- 18:41Speaker 2: like I don't want to see him play a single game.
- 18:43Speaker 2: I think you just throw him into the deep end
- 18:44Speaker 2: of the pool in Week one on Monday Night against
- 18:46Speaker 2: Kansas City. I agree, he doesn't need preseason, doesn't need
- 18:48Speaker 2: preseason at all. But I do wonder when you get
- 18:52Speaker 2: to the middle portion of the year, which is we
- 18:55Speaker 2: have to call a spat to spade here, it's the
- 18:57Speaker 2: easiest portion of the schedule. Right after you get outside
- 19:00Speaker 2: of those two games against Arizona and then home against
- 19:03Speaker 2: Kansas City, you have one game against Carolina, then the
- 19:05Speaker 2: bye week, and then six cupcakes after that theoretical or sorry,
- 19:10Speaker 2: five theoretically.
- 19:11Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, somebody out of that pack, somebody's probably
- 19:14Speaker 6: going to emerge as a pretty decent football team.
- 19:16Speaker 2: But as it stands right now, that is, without a doubt,
- 19:18Speaker 2: the easiest portion of your schedule. If you can survive
- 19:21Speaker 2: the first six weeks at three and three, maybe even
- 19:25Speaker 2: you get out of it four and two.
- 19:27Speaker 4: If you get out of it four and two, it's
- 19:29Speaker 4: an absolute home run.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Do you lean on Jonah Coleman and RJ. Harvey during
- 19:35Speaker 2: the middle portion of the season and bring Jk's pitch
- 19:38Speaker 2: count down a little bit down in the.
- 19:40Speaker 4: Middle of the year.
- 19:40Speaker 5: I don't know if his injuries are as much pitch
- 19:42Speaker 5: count as it is just wrong.
- 19:44Speaker 4: Place, wrong time type stuff, you know.
- 19:46Speaker 2: But then you can't, you can't. You can't help police that.
- 19:49Speaker 5: No, That's what I'm saying, and that's my answer is
- 19:52Speaker 5: you can't police it.
- 19:53Speaker 4: It is what it is.
- 19:54Speaker 5: If you get hurt, you get hurt sometimes. You know,
- 19:57Speaker 5: the same thing applies to Aaron Gordon's situation. Gordon can
- 20:00Speaker 5: pull that muscle at any time. Sure, I mean you
- 20:02Speaker 5: can try to limit his minutes. I'm not sure if
- 20:05Speaker 5: that changes things.
- 20:06Speaker 6: So when you go back to last year the Liz
- 20:08Speaker 6: Frank right, the partial list, Frank tear in his left foot,
- 20:10Speaker 6: we go and against Minnesota that was caused by.
- 20:13Speaker 4: A hip drop tackle. That is correct. But you go
- 20:16Speaker 4: back to his previous history.
- 20:17Speaker 6: If you remember the really bad one he had with
- 20:20Speaker 6: Baltimore his second year in the league, ACL LCL, meniscus
- 20:24Speaker 6: and hamstring tears not good.
- 20:26Speaker 4: So that whole that whole lee or that whole knee,
- 20:30Speaker 4: and then.
- 20:30Speaker 6: That left leg blew up, followed by an achilles tear
- 20:33Speaker 6: in twenty three My goodness. Then at mcl spring with
- 20:36Speaker 6: the Chargers in twenty four So that's what he's been through.
- 20:39Speaker 4: That's all.
- 20:39Speaker 6: The left leg all the like. That left leg is
- 20:41Speaker 6: fake essentially or it's redone. Doctors did a nice job
- 20:45Speaker 6: on it. So but listen, I want to I want
- 20:50Speaker 6: in there. Yeah, dead guy's all over. I want to
- 20:52Speaker 6: believe that this guy is going to be good. I'm
- 20:54Speaker 6: rooting for him because too, I am too. He's a
- 20:56Speaker 6: good dude.
- 20:57Speaker 5: I mean, I just you could tell by the way
- 20:58Speaker 5: he answers these questions. Man, he's an earnest guy.
- 21:01Speaker 2: I think it's a very fine line and a difficult
- 21:03Speaker 2: line to toe being the guy with a chip on
- 21:06Speaker 2: your shoulder but still finding a way to be likable.
- 21:09Speaker 2: And he does it perfectly. There's not a lot of
- 21:12Speaker 2: guys that can do that, because it's very clear that
- 21:14Speaker 2: when you when you ask JK or when you bring
- 21:17Speaker 2: up the conversation of his injury history, he bucks up
- 21:21Speaker 2: against it. He's like, listen, all of this is freak injury.
- 21:24Speaker 2: I'm not injury prone. It just happens to be that
- 21:26Speaker 2: this has happened in my NFL career. But he finds
- 21:29Speaker 2: a way to spin it to still be very likable.
- 21:31Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys in the league that can't
- 21:33Speaker 2: spin that and still stay likable.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Can I ask you a personal question?
- 21:37Speaker 5: Sure, why are you the only one always wearing sunglasses
- 21:41Speaker 5: when there's no sun?
- 21:41Speaker 4: Glare whatsoever? Chris Mitchell's wearing sunglasses right now? He looks great.
- 21:45Speaker 4: Can you help me with that?
- 21:47Speaker 2: It's a little weird.
- 21:49Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 21:50Speaker 5: I just always wondered about, like people who consistently wear
- 21:53Speaker 5: sunglasses when there's no sun?
- 21:55Speaker 4: Well, I have what colorizes you have? My eyes are ye?
- 22:01Speaker 4: So do I?
- 22:03Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying this, No, No, I'm just I'm
- 22:06Speaker 6: telling you that that people with blue eyes.
- 22:09Speaker 4: They don't absorb the light as well. Think I have no.
- 22:13Speaker 4: I know you, I know you do good.
- 22:15Speaker 6: For you off, let those blue puppies peray you handle
- 22:17Speaker 6: it well, I'm doing I'm doing good.
- 22:19Speaker 4: Handle what good? Handle?
- 22:20Speaker 6: What?
- 22:21Speaker 4: The haze? Bright lights?
- 22:22Speaker 6: And this is what this is kind of perfect, to
- 22:25Speaker 6: be honest with you, it's kind of perfect.
- 22:27Speaker 4: Good.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Right, we have a we have a marine layer here.
- 22:31Speaker 4: It's not even but absolutely zero sun. I've never understood
- 22:38Speaker 4: the sunglass wear with no son.
- 22:39Speaker 2: It's a big time move.
- 22:41Speaker 4: It is it's like, you.
- 22:42Speaker 6: Know what it says, this is that's not a big
- 22:43Speaker 6: time This is a big time that's not a big
- 22:47Speaker 6: time move. This is a big time move when you
- 22:49Speaker 6: go you know, yeah, you just did that. I've been
- 22:53Speaker 6: thinking about it. Yeah, and you bite on the you
- 22:56Speaker 6: bought on the end of the of the army. You know,
- 22:57Speaker 6: I've been thinking about this. That's that's that's what's called
- 23:00Speaker 6: a big time move. Just putting these on makes me
- 23:02Speaker 6: feel good, silk comfort.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Beaking a big time moves, Fella. The Dodgers have ruined baseball,
- 23:08Speaker 2: if they haven't already killed it by trading for Trek
- 23:12Speaker 2: Scooble an absolute disease.
- 23:14Speaker 5: Mojer saw this coming months ago, right, you call that
- 23:17Speaker 5: at the beginning of the season essentially.
- 23:19Speaker 6: And then as we got into July, raj I, I
- 23:23Speaker 6: started sniffing around, and I don't know why I do
- 23:25Speaker 6: this to myself, but I seek out articles about what
- 23:29Speaker 6: possibly could go down with the La Dodgers because I've
- 23:31Speaker 6: got a thorn in my side. Then as we get
- 23:33Speaker 6: to late July, all of a sudden, here's where all
- 23:35Speaker 6: the talk is. And I brought it up, Vick, what
- 23:37Speaker 6: we can have two weeks ago. I'm like they are.
- 23:39Speaker 6: The Dodgers are sniffing around Scooble hard, and I mean
- 23:42Speaker 6: like a dog.
- 23:43Speaker 4: I got like a dog on a on a you know,
- 23:45Speaker 4: on a steak. Right.
- 23:46Speaker 6: They are sniffing, sniff and sniffing, and then it gets done.
- 23:50Speaker 6: But of course it gets done. Of course they do
- 23:52Speaker 6: the deal for for one of the best starters in baseball.
- 23:55Speaker 4: It's just it's just it's ridiculous.
- 23:58Speaker 2: I think what stinks Tie having about this deal is
- 24:01Speaker 2: that the level of prospect that the Dodgers parted ways
- 24:04Speaker 2: with was nowhere near the level of player. The level
- 24:08Speaker 2: of pitcher a two time Cy Young Award winner Derek Scooble.
- 24:11Speaker 5: Is it's not just the prospects, because I've heard the complaint,
- 24:14Speaker 5: Oh well, every other team could have done exactly what
- 24:17Speaker 5: the Dodgers did. I mean I could they could have,
- 24:20Speaker 5: But then you have to absorb the contract. You have
- 24:22Speaker 5: to absorb the money. You can part with young talent,
- 24:26Speaker 5: but that's cheaper talent. You also have to absorb how
- 24:29Speaker 5: much money you're gonna pay Schooble. And they've been able
- 24:31Speaker 5: to absorb any contract.
- 24:33Speaker 2: That's the difference, because they kick the can down the
- 24:35Speaker 2: road to twenty thirty.
- 24:36Speaker 4: They can absorb.
- 24:36Speaker 5: I mean, look at and I keep bringing this up
- 24:39Speaker 5: and nobody refuses to acknowledge. Local television revenue in every
- 24:45Speaker 5: sport is a huge factor when it comes to finances
- 24:49Speaker 5: every sport. How much money do you make locally in
- 24:53Speaker 5: baseball because the local revenue isn't combined with the national revenue.
- 24:57Speaker 5: The local revenue is just goes into your own pocket.
- 25:00Speaker 5: Dogs make will make on the remainder of their local
- 25:03Speaker 5: contract upwards of three hundred and fifty million dollars. Compare
- 25:08Speaker 5: that to the Rockies, whose local contract expired, It caved in, it.
- 25:14Speaker 4: Went away, it went away.
- 25:16Speaker 6: They didn't, they don't have they what they're being produced
- 25:18Speaker 6: by Major League Baseball. And of course on my on
- 25:21Speaker 6: my network that I use, they have a Rockies channel,
- 25:25Speaker 6: and when the Rockies are playing, the game is on.
- 25:27Speaker 6: And when the Rockies are not playing, that channel is black.
- 25:29Speaker 6: That channels, that channel doesn't exist.
- 25:31Speaker 4: That stuff matters. That's an inherent advantage.
- 25:35Speaker 5: Now, it's no fault of the Dodgers that they have
- 25:37Speaker 5: that kind of local contract. That means their fans love them,
- 25:40Speaker 5: that means that their local entities support them. It also
- 25:43Speaker 5: means that they play in a town of fifteen million people,
- 25:46Speaker 5: they have enough fans.
- 25:47Speaker 2: That very Notre Damey advantage.
- 25:50Speaker 6: It's a huge advantage. It's a huge Roger, really Roger.
- 25:53Speaker 6: But it's more than that too. It's who owns the Dodgers.
- 25:56Speaker 6: It's a giant hedge fund, right that owns the or
- 26:00Speaker 6: what is it called VIC? Is it a hedge fund
- 26:02Speaker 6: or is it a giant capital conglomerates investment firm?
- 26:05Speaker 4: And that's exactly right.
- 26:07Speaker 6: So they have all kinds of It's not like it's
- 26:10Speaker 6: not like you know, the Montfort's right, it's something completely different. So, yes,
- 26:15Speaker 6: are the Dodgers within the rules of Major League Baseball?
- 26:18Speaker 6: The answer is yes. When they had the last CBA
- 26:21Speaker 6: come out, or even the CBA before that, and before that,
- 26:24Speaker 6: could you ever have envisioned that we would see a
- 26:27Speaker 6: situation like the Dodgers have found themselves in now.
- 26:30Speaker 4: And that is not only that.
- 26:31Speaker 6: Local TV revenue, but the ability of the firm and
- 26:35Speaker 6: I know it's they're run by a guy, but the
- 26:37Speaker 6: ability of the overall conglomerate to defer six hundred million
- 26:41Speaker 6: dollars right and then pay pay the fiddler years.
- 26:44Speaker 4: Down the road.
- 26:45Speaker 6: I don't think they could have envisioned that it would
- 26:47Speaker 6: come to something like I think so they have an
- 26:49Speaker 6: inherent advantage in what they can and cannot do. And
- 26:53Speaker 6: by the way, this may blow your mind. I saw
- 26:55Speaker 6: the stat over the weekend the Dodgers starting rotation. All
- 26:59Speaker 6: of the salaries can body the Dodgers, that would be
- 27:01Speaker 6: the eighteenth highest payroll in baseball.
- 27:03Speaker 4: Not surprised, just the starting rotation through that's stupid.
- 27:06Speaker 5: I think we're at a point now where even the
- 27:07Speaker 5: most ardent Dodger fan is a bit embarrassed by this
- 27:11Speaker 5: is a bit well, okay, what I've seen.
- 27:13Speaker 6: They seem they're complete. Here comes more bro. They seem
- 27:17Speaker 6: completely defensive, and yes they're following the rules of baseball,
- 27:21Speaker 6: but the rules are broken. They're broken.
- 27:24Speaker 5: Well, what they're doing now is leading us into that
- 27:28Speaker 5: work stoppage that is going to happen. I think the
- 27:31Speaker 5: other owners, to be honest with you, when they saw
- 27:33Speaker 5: that deal happen, the ones that want to work stoppage,
- 27:35Speaker 5: they're sitting there going, great, this is exactly what we needed.
- 27:38Speaker 5: That's the spark. Let's go, and there's really no turning
- 27:42Speaker 5: that around. You gotta get to and maybe the Dodgers
- 27:44Speaker 5: even know it. So the Dodgers figure workstoppage is coming,
- 27:47Speaker 5: let's just do it anyway they should.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Dodgers are honestly, the Dodgers are
- 27:51Speaker 2: playing the game the way that they should play the
- 27:54Speaker 2: game with all the extra money that they have. Chris
- 27:57Speaker 2: Mitchell just sent us a text message that the Dodgers
- 28:01Speaker 2: keep sixty six million dollars per year more than they
- 28:05Speaker 2: would because the Major League Baseball when the Dodgers went bankrupt, Yeah,
- 28:10Speaker 2: they allowed them to be exempt from that tax through
- 28:13Speaker 2: twenty thirty nine, so they're still benefiting off of something.
- 28:17Speaker 5: Excuse me, So the Dodgers went bankrupt under a different ownership, Yeah, correct,
- 28:21Speaker 5: why should the new ownership group benefit from the old
- 28:24Speaker 5: ownership's bankruptcy.
- 28:25Speaker 2: According to a league source, the exception runs through twenty thirty.
- 28:29Speaker 5: No, that's not right. See, then there is the fallacy.
- 28:31Speaker 5: There's the flaw in the system. I understand bankruptcy rules
- 28:34Speaker 5: and why that works, but that should fall on the
- 28:36Speaker 5: previous ownership group, not the new one.
- 28:38Speaker 4: That's stupid. That's then then Baseball's dumb.
- 28:42Speaker 6: Baseball season control they seem could they seize control of
- 28:45Speaker 6: the Dodgers from team owner Frank McCourt on April twenty
- 28:48Speaker 6: of twenty eleven.
- 28:50Speaker 5: Is that bow walking tortoise? Yeah it is, it is
- 28:52Speaker 5: bow Hey, I got that one right. He's walking barefoot
- 28:56Speaker 5: right toward us. So anyway, Yeah, so baseball took over.
- 28:59Speaker 5: They settled the whole, you know, the whole nine yards,
- 29:02Speaker 5: and they went the bankruptcy court June twenty seventh, and
- 29:07Speaker 5: they sold the team on November one, twenty eleven. That
- 29:11Speaker 5: was the group that in concluded a mic Magic Johnson.
- 29:14Speaker 2: And the scare people. Yeah, big thighs, moj I didn't
- 29:18Speaker 2: pay attention to a thing.
- 29:18Speaker 4: You said.
- 29:19Speaker 2: We were entranced by watching a shoeless Bownicks walk down the.
- 29:23Speaker 4: Tech Why why would you be entranced by that? He's
- 29:25Speaker 4: just a human being walking.
- 29:26Speaker 5: Well, more and more guys are doing this now. Evan
- 29:28Speaker 5: Ingram does it, Brandon Jones does it, and now Boas
- 29:30Speaker 5: started doing it. The barefoot walk on the playing field
- 29:34Speaker 5: before prank.
- 29:35Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with touching mother. There's a feeling the
- 29:38Speaker 6: earth in your feet. That's an all time feeling. You
- 29:41Speaker 6: ever walk on a green without shoes on?
- 29:43Speaker 5: Dude, I don't take my shoes off on a golf course.
- 29:45Speaker 5: I'm not freaking a weirdo like like mojiz.
- 29:48Speaker 4: I don't do that stuff now when I'm playing.
- 29:52Speaker 2: I don't go out, No, No, seven eight o'clock at night.
- 29:54Speaker 4: No, I plow shoes. When you're on the plane surface,
- 29:57Speaker 4: you put your shoes on.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Oh you're missing out. The barefoot walk on a green
- 30:02Speaker 2: is on. You gotta try it the next time you're
- 30:04Speaker 2: out the club.
- 30:05Speaker 4: All right, Well, how does.
- 30:06Speaker 5: It explain all these guys doing exactly that right here
- 30:09Speaker 5: on the football field.
- 30:10Speaker 4: It's sort of like a seance. It's a what is it?
- 30:14Speaker 4: What do you guys do?
- 30:15Speaker 2: I am one with the field?
- 30:16Speaker 4: No, I'm serious?
- 30:17Speaker 5: What So what do people do in the mornings when
- 30:19Speaker 5: you like close your eyes and you you meditate for
- 30:23Speaker 5: three four minutes?
- 30:24Speaker 4: Meditate? Have you tried that and you tried to meditate?
- 30:26Speaker 4: I fall asleep every time I try.
- 30:28Speaker 2: My brain doesn't work. That I've tried most I know.
- 30:30Speaker 5: You can't meditate. Don't even get me started. Your brain's
- 30:33Speaker 5: your brain's like mine. There's no way I've tried to
- 30:35Speaker 5: meditate before and just boom, I'm asleep in thirty seconds.
- 30:39Speaker 4: That's almost like a meditation practice, you didn't need.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Most of those guys do this walk too, with like
- 30:45Speaker 2: massive headphones on so they're listening to music. The kids
- 30:49Speaker 2: call it like raw dogging a flight.
- 30:52Speaker 4: You just get what they this.
- 30:53Speaker 2: It's a trend and they call it raw dogging a flight.
- 30:56Speaker 2: And you get on a four hour flight from here
- 30:58Speaker 2: to New York and you don't don't have your phone,
- 31:00Speaker 2: you don't have AirPods in, no headphones, you don't have
- 31:03Speaker 2: a screen on, and you just stare at the back
- 31:05Speaker 2: of the seat for four hours for a flight.
- 31:08Speaker 4: Why who would do that?
- 31:10Speaker 2: Beats me?
- 31:10Speaker 4: Besides my mother, who does that.
- 31:12Speaker 2: That's what Bo's doing right now, no phone, no headphones,
- 31:15Speaker 2: just having a walk out for a walk.
- 31:16Speaker 4: You know, that's good. Good for him.
- 31:17Speaker 5: Again, he's being one with the field. He's being one
- 31:20Speaker 5: with with with football, I guess. And that's the first
- 31:24Speaker 5: time I've seen him do that. I've been in camp here,
- 31:27Speaker 5: you know, for the last three years since he's been here,
- 31:29Speaker 5: I've never seen him take the walk, the pre practice
- 31:32Speaker 5: walk before.
- 31:33Speaker 6: Maybe it's a new trend. It's really impressive. I'm gonna
- 31:36Speaker 6: start doing it to me, it's I mean, it really
- 31:38Speaker 6: is impressive. I mean when you see a quarterback take
- 31:40Speaker 6: your shoes off and walk down a goal line and
- 31:43Speaker 6: then turn right down the hashes and just keep walking.
- 31:46Speaker 6: I mean, I've ever seen anything like that.
- 31:48Speaker 4: Before my entire life. Mosure. For Christ's sake, it's almost
- 31:51Speaker 4: almost spiritual. Mosure.
- 31:53Speaker 5: We are here every day for three and a half weeks.
- 31:56Speaker 5: The starting quarterback actually came as close to us as
- 32:00Speaker 5: he's been since we started this.
- 32:02Speaker 4: You're not gonna say anything about it, Well, I'll tell
- 32:05Speaker 4: you about it.
- 32:05Speaker 6: Why don't you go on porta potty during the break
- 32:07Speaker 6: and go particle yourself over watching Bonnicks walk walk barefoot
- 32:10Speaker 6: around a football field.
- 32:12Speaker 4: It doesn't the things that you guys get to make
- 32:14Speaker 4: it again, I'll do play by play this all day.
- 32:18Speaker 4: In fact, you're the play by play guy. How about
- 32:20Speaker 4: little play by play right now here? Here we go.
- 32:21Speaker 4: I'm gonna shoot to him. You could see him.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Hold on a second, hold on there, you know exactly.
- 32:26Speaker 4: I think you're allowed to shoot that. Why not? I
- 32:28Speaker 4: don't think you're like, I haven't heard a hont or
- 32:30Speaker 4: a phone. He can do it, all right. I want
- 32:32Speaker 4: you to do play by play.
- 32:34Speaker 6: Go here's number ten far sideline walking step, left foot,
- 32:38Speaker 6: right foot, right foot, left foot, right foot, left foot,
- 32:40Speaker 6: right foot, left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot,
- 32:43Speaker 6: staring down in front of him, taking powerful strides, almost
- 32:48Speaker 6: a full yard per stride, head down, staring at the earth,
- 32:52Speaker 6: bare face, and he just just frigging walking. And it
- 32:55Speaker 6: doesn't mean Jack squat, but there he is. And Big
- 32:58Speaker 6: wanted me to do this, so he turned it in point.
- 33:01Speaker 6: He's still walking down the far sideline, the perimeter. It's
- 33:05Speaker 6: like he's walking. He's like he's walking the wallet fifteen.
- 33:08Speaker 6: I mean he's at the ten. I mean what he's
- 33:11Speaker 6: at the five.
- 33:12Speaker 4: He's slowly making his way to the goal line. Will
- 33:15Speaker 4: he get there? It's ridiculous, It doesn't mean anything.
- 33:19Speaker 2: It's a touchdown three zho three five four nine two five.
- 33:23Speaker 2: It's Broncos training camp on altitude ninety two five. We'll
- 33:26Speaker 2: have oh by the way, about an hour from right now.
- 33:29Speaker 2: We are out of a hazy, overcast Broncos Park. All
- 33:33Speaker 2: of our altitude coverage of training camp this year brought
- 33:35Speaker 2: to by Ramos law Raj filling in for Brett Caane
- 33:38Speaker 2: this week, alongside Vic Lombardi, Mark Mojer, Chris Mitchell and
- 33:42Speaker 2: Jesse trio with Steve Nelson back at our studios.
- 33:46Speaker 4: The overcast now, but we're supposed to hit a hundred again.
- 33:49Speaker 2: I don't see how that's possible.
- 33:50Speaker 4: I don't see how it's possible.
- 33:51Speaker 2: It's perfect, it's it's changed, nothing.
- 33:54Speaker 5: Legendary at this point. Yesterday was unreal. And I love
- 33:58Speaker 5: the heat. I love it, but I was on my
- 34:00Speaker 5: best bub riding around town at like two thirty four
- 34:03Speaker 5: in the afternoon.
- 34:04Speaker 4: It was hot.
- 34:05Speaker 6: Yeah, there's nothing like when I used to ride my
- 34:08Speaker 6: motorcycles all through those years. Man, it feels like on
- 34:12Speaker 6: the hot days with their helmet on, dude, and that
- 34:14Speaker 6: even will raise your bisor just feels like a hair
- 34:16Speaker 6: dryer in your face and you're doing seventy five and
- 34:20Speaker 6: he just feels like somebody's going shit right in your face.
- 34:23Speaker 4: It sucks.
- 34:24Speaker 5: I just I don't get the appeal you and your
- 34:26Speaker 5: hogs Yeah, well you'll get there someday, dude, no longer.
- 34:30Speaker 4: Have a hogs.
- 34:31Speaker 2: Hey, Fellas, we were supposed to have Demani Leech on today.
- 34:34Speaker 2: They are going to reschedule, but we will have Demani
- 34:37Speaker 2: on later on during the week.
- 34:39Speaker 4: So he's not coming with us today. Another day this.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Week that is correct, but he will not be on
- 34:43Speaker 2: with US Today. News coming out over the weekend. The
- 34:47Speaker 2: Broncos have selected their architect for their new stadium. It's
- 34:51Speaker 2: Manica Designs. They're doing the new Kansas City Chief Stadium.
- 34:55Speaker 2: They did Allegiance out there in Vegas. They're doing the
- 34:57Speaker 2: new Chicago Bears Stadium, and they.
- 34:59Speaker 4: Did Atlanta as well. They do Mercedes.
- 35:02Speaker 2: They I don't see Mercedes on their list right now.
- 35:05Speaker 2: They did enter Miami. They're doing the new Nissan Stadium.
- 35:08Speaker 2: They did Birmingham City. Uh so they've done a whole
- 35:12Speaker 2: bunch of these things, but that's their.
- 35:14Speaker 4: Birmingham seon what the hills out is that an English
- 35:15Speaker 4: soccer club?
- 35:17Speaker 5: We know this whatever obviously I haven't seen any designs yet,
- 35:22Speaker 5: but this is going to be one of the top
- 35:25Speaker 5: stadiums in the world. I mean, any new stadium is
- 35:28Speaker 5: going to be a top stadium. And I know when
- 35:30Speaker 5: they're done with this sucker, just for what they did
- 35:33Speaker 5: with their facilities here, it's going to be beautiful.
- 35:36Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
- 35:37Speaker 2: It's odd that they didn't use the company that created
- 35:39Speaker 2: the Sofi Stadium, right, because like, isn't that the crown
- 35:43Speaker 2: jewel out of all of these brand new stadiums right now,
- 35:46Speaker 2: and yeah, entertainment districts.
- 35:47Speaker 4: It depends on your cup of tea. But I think
- 35:49Speaker 4: that one, the detail in that one is unrivaled.
- 35:52Speaker 2: That would have been HKS architects.
- 35:54Speaker 6: Okay, uh are we ever going to get? It's going
- 35:58Speaker 6: to be a contention if they go ps Is that
- 36:00Speaker 6: going to be going?
- 36:02Speaker 4: You know?
- 36:02Speaker 5: And the remarks made my mister Leach on Saturday was
- 36:07Speaker 5: they haven't decided. They haven't decided, but it's likely. And
- 36:14Speaker 5: I don't know what to say about this, other than
- 36:18Speaker 5: any new stadium that's privately financed in the National Football
- 36:22Speaker 5: League comes with PSLs. I try to do some research
- 36:27Speaker 5: on this because a lot of the stadiums are publicly financed,
- 36:31Speaker 5: and I think it's a give and take. If you
- 36:33Speaker 5: publicly finance your stadium and the city takes part in,
- 36:39Speaker 5: you know, the cost, I think PSLs that's a tough sell.
- 36:42Speaker 5: Why would you PSL your fans if the fans are
- 36:45Speaker 5: paying for it. If the fans aren't paying for it,
- 36:48Speaker 5: then they're gonna push the cost to someone else. And
- 36:51Speaker 5: that someone else are the people who go to the games.
- 36:55Speaker 5: The intent there is, let's not charge the people who
- 36:58Speaker 5: don't go to the stadium. Let's not put that price
- 37:00Speaker 5: on the people who never walk inside that stadium. Let's
- 37:02Speaker 5: put it on the people who attend the games. The
- 37:05Speaker 5: people who attend the games, the loyal Bronco fans for years,
- 37:08Speaker 5: are like, hey man, that's fine and dandy, but I
- 37:10Speaker 5: can't afford.
- 37:11Speaker 6: This big rate, this big cut. Right, does a PSL?
- 37:14Speaker 6: Does that cover like concerts and everything else? Are just football?
- 37:17Speaker 4: I have no idea.
- 37:18Speaker 5: I don't know how that works, because you're you're it's
- 37:21Speaker 5: it's maybe like a suite a suite of ball arena.
- 37:24Speaker 4: If you purchase a suite.
- 37:25Speaker 6: Of ball arena, you get it for everything, right, but
- 37:28Speaker 6: you have you have a PSL for a seat, and
- 37:32Speaker 6: then okay, that's your seat, but then you still have
- 37:34Speaker 6: to buy tickets for the seat.
- 37:35Speaker 5: For the game, exactly right. It's not necessarily the PSL,
- 37:39Speaker 5: the actual notion of a PSL that hurts. It's the amount, Like,
- 37:43Speaker 5: how many people can afford to put that kind of
- 37:45Speaker 5: stuff down?
- 37:46Speaker 4: Do they have a payoff? Do they have a can
- 37:49Speaker 4: you finance that?
- 37:50Speaker 5: I mean, some people are gonna be asked to put
- 37:52Speaker 5: some serious chunk of change down on their seats.
- 37:54Speaker 4: Yeah, can they go this route?
- 37:55Speaker 2: Can you build that into your season ticket prices over
- 37:58Speaker 2: the course of five of ten years because it's a
- 38:01Speaker 2: one time cost. Here are the reported PSL costs at
- 38:05Speaker 2: Allegiance in Las Vegas for the four hundred level, like
- 38:08Speaker 2: your bleeders, about nineteen hundred dollars per seat.
- 38:11Speaker 5: Okay, So if you own four seats, dude, dude, I
- 38:13Speaker 5: mean it, that's a pretty You're looking about seventy five
- 38:16Speaker 5: hundred bucks.
- 38:17Speaker 2: Yeah, the three hundred level, twenty three hundred dollars per seat.
- 38:20Speaker 2: The one hundred level, so if you want to be
- 38:22Speaker 2: in that lower bowl, you're looking at three thousand dollars
- 38:25Speaker 2: per seat, and then club seats can range from forty
- 38:28Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars all the way up to seventy five
- 38:30Speaker 2: thousand dollars for the elite luxury options.
- 38:33Speaker 4: Wow.
- 38:33Speaker 2: And that is per seat. That is not per section,
- 38:36Speaker 2: that is not per row, that is per seat. And
- 38:38Speaker 2: again those are one time payments. But yeah, it will
- 38:41Speaker 2: price out like your you know, your grandfather or your
- 38:45Speaker 2: uncle who has had tickets you know since the seventies,
- 38:49Speaker 2: that isn't rolling in money, that does not have the
- 38:52Speaker 2: ability to drop seven ten fifteen thousand dollars down for
- 38:57Speaker 2: his two or three or four seats that he has
- 39:00Speaker 2: had for decades. It's gonna price those people out.
- 39:02Speaker 5: I'm looking at the thank you, Dave for sending this
- 39:06Speaker 5: to me. The Atlanta Falcons PSLs. They range anywhere from
- 39:10Speaker 5: twenty five hundred to ten thousand dollars wower per se
- 39:15Speaker 5: in Atlanta.
- 39:15Speaker 4: It's a membership is it's six thousand. It's a one
- 39:18Speaker 4: time fee, though it's not every year.
- 39:20Speaker 2: Right, it's a one it's a one time fee a
- 39:22Speaker 2: personal seating license.
- 39:23Speaker 6: Okay, so that's one time fee and then you just
- 39:26Speaker 6: buy your tickets forever if you keep it, if you right,
- 39:28Speaker 6: you still have to purchase your tickets tight time, right,
- 39:30Speaker 6: I mean, but it's but it's a one time upfront fee.
- 39:32Speaker 4: Correct.
- 39:32Speaker 6: It's a tax. Yeah, it's a tax. It's a taquity tax.
- 39:36Speaker 6: It's a property tax. You own a home, well, you know,
- 39:39Speaker 6: but you don't physically own the seat. You don't physically
- 39:41Speaker 6: own part of the stadium. It's just you own this
- 39:44Speaker 6: metaphysical seat that is going to contain your butt. And
- 39:47Speaker 6: then you push the tickets and you sit in that seat.
- 39:50Speaker 5: At so far, if your ticket costs one thousand dollars.
- 39:54Speaker 5: In the reserve section, you're gonna pay a PSL of
- 39:58Speaker 5: nine and twenty dollars. And that's what they cost there.
- 40:01Speaker 5: They're relative to obviously the purchase price of your ticket.
- 40:05Speaker 5: But a lot of these stadiums that are privately financed
- 40:09Speaker 5: have gone the PSL route to recoup some of those
- 40:11Speaker 5: costs other than taxing people.
- 40:14Speaker 4: You know, I I don't. I don't know what to
- 40:17Speaker 4: say about this.
- 40:18Speaker 5: Because if you're a longtime season ticket holder and you're
- 40:22Speaker 5: just making ends meet and you can barely afford to
- 40:24Speaker 5: get to the games, and you just this is what
- 40:25Speaker 5: you do. This is gonna hurt, and it's gonna hurt immensely.
- 40:29Speaker 5: At the same time, they're not asking the public at
- 40:33Speaker 5: all for anything. They're not asking for any public help
- 40:36Speaker 5: on the stadium. So this is the give and take
- 40:39Speaker 5: on that.
- 40:40Speaker 4: I don't know where you go.
- 40:41Speaker 5: Like if the old Mile High suddenly said we're gonna
- 40:44Speaker 5: do PSLs, I'd be like, what are you talking about?
- 40:48Speaker 4: But how can you do PSLs? We all paid for this.
- 40:51Speaker 5: This is mostly paid by the city, but the city
- 40:54Speaker 5: in turn, you can't do that the cities anymore because
- 40:57Speaker 5: they have proven. If you ask a city to pay
- 41:00Speaker 5: for your stadium, they're gonna say no, there are too
- 41:02Speaker 5: many people that don't care, too many people that don't
- 41:04Speaker 5: want to go to the games.
- 41:05Speaker 4: Why should we pay for your stadium.
- 41:07Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't gonna pass a vote. They'll kick you out
- 41:08Speaker 2: to another state. Right two teams?
- 41:10Speaker 4: Yeah, right now.
- 41:11Speaker 6: It says currently twenty one of the thirty two NFL
- 41:14Speaker 6: teams utilize the personal Seat License, and I.
- 41:17Speaker 5: Guarantee the ones that don't are the ones that are
- 41:20Speaker 5: publicly financed stadiums.
- 41:23Speaker 4: They can't.
- 41:23Speaker 6: Well, I don't know Atlanta, is Baltimore publicly financed? Dallas,
- 41:27Speaker 6: of course, is private Carolina? I think that's probably public Vegas.
- 41:32Speaker 2: Now, it does give you the ability if you can
- 41:35Speaker 2: afford the seats. If you can afford the personal Seating License,
- 41:39Speaker 2: it gives you the ability to profit off of those seats.
- 41:42Speaker 2: You can then sell the rights to that PSL.
- 41:44Speaker 4: Oh yeah you can't. It's transferable. Yeah, it's definitely transferable.
- 41:47Speaker 2: You know the way you I can't sell your right
- 41:49Speaker 2: to purchasing season tickets. If you give up your season
- 41:52Speaker 2: tickets as a broadcost ticket holder, it then just goes
- 41:54Speaker 2: to the next person in line, which is seemingly endless.
- 41:58Speaker 5: I don't know how it works when you want to
- 41:59Speaker 5: set your seats to games, Like let's say you can't
- 42:02Speaker 5: go to a game. Is there a specific service you
- 42:04Speaker 5: need to use to sell those seats or can you
- 42:06Speaker 5: just go on the open market?
- 42:07Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm reading right here.
- 42:09Speaker 6: It says PSLs can typically be sold, traded, or transferred
- 42:11Speaker 6: to other buyers on a secondary market if the owner
- 42:14Speaker 6: no longer wants the financial commitment of season tickets.
- 42:17Speaker 5: All right, So what about those fans who have waited
- 42:19Speaker 5: in line for years to try and get season tickets.
- 42:22Speaker 4: I don't know how that works. I don't know.
- 42:24Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because in Denver we've got this.
- 42:26Speaker 5: It's a great tradition, and it's a long line of
- 42:28Speaker 5: people that like, I'm up next, I'm up next. Do
- 42:30Speaker 5: they just go to the next person or any person?
- 42:32Speaker 5: Is it the richest person that gets that PSL? If
- 42:34Speaker 5: I knew you had season tickets and I said, hey,
- 42:37Speaker 5: I want your season tickets, I'll give you twenty grand
- 42:39Speaker 5: right now, PSL.
- 42:41Speaker 4: Do I get them? Or does the next person on
- 42:42Speaker 4: that list get them? Well, you remember the movie Fever pitch.
- 42:47Speaker 5: Yes, okay, yes, but remember sure, okay, but remember with Jimmy,
- 42:51Speaker 5: this is Jimmy fallon.
- 42:52Speaker 4: Jimmy fallon.
- 42:54Speaker 6: But he's remember at the very end there he's he's
- 42:56Speaker 6: signing over his season tickets to some members. Guy's given
- 43:00Speaker 6: him like one hundred grand. He's given up his Red
- 43:02Speaker 6: Sox season. To remember that one of the Red Sox
- 43:05Speaker 6: of it was he signing over his PSL to these
- 43:07Speaker 6: tickets that were his uncles, and blah blah blah blah
- 43:10Speaker 6: blah blah blah. And then she comes jumping over center field,
- 43:14Speaker 6: running on the field and he tears it up and
- 43:16Speaker 6: all that kind.
- 43:16Speaker 4: Of thing, and it's happening. Let me, let me read something.
- 43:18Speaker 5: And this is where I want to be very careful
- 43:21Speaker 5: because I don't envy those fans who made Broncos Country
- 43:26Speaker 5: what it is today, the loyal fans who are blue
- 43:30Speaker 5: collar fans who go out of their way to go
- 43:33Speaker 5: to these games and give up a lot of money,
- 43:36Speaker 5: and now money is the game.
- 43:38Speaker 4: This is from Texter six to zero two three. The
- 43:41Speaker 4: PSL is a huge joke.
- 43:42Speaker 5: My family's had season tickets since seventy one, UH eleven
- 43:48Speaker 5: tickets in the Lower Bowe. Hell, that's a lot of
- 43:49Speaker 5: freaking tickets. That is how big your family eleven tickets?
- 43:54Speaker 5: You're almost being greedy. Give up some of those damn things.
- 43:57Speaker 5: If we're priced out of our tickets, which is going
- 43:59Speaker 5: to be the case for me any families who have
- 44:00Speaker 5: a low priority in numbers. It's clear sign from the
- 44:04Speaker 5: new ownership group that loyalty to fans means nothing. Now
- 44:08Speaker 5: I disagree on the loyalty thing. I think that right now,
- 44:13Speaker 5: loyalty is a very how do you define loyalty exactly?
- 44:18Speaker 5: Because loyalty can be how badly do you want those seats?
- 44:21Speaker 5: You can make some money off these seats, pay that
- 44:23Speaker 5: money down, and then you can make money off certain games.
- 44:26Speaker 5: Loyalty can be, hey, we're gonna give a price break
- 44:29Speaker 5: to people in the upper deck. Loyalty. What is loyalty?
- 44:32Speaker 5: I don't know what loyalty is. There's a sidewalk tax
- 44:35Speaker 5: in Denver, Colorado.
- 44:36Speaker 4: Right now.
- 44:36Speaker 5: You think the people that live in Denver, Colorado who
- 44:38Speaker 5: can't afford to pay for their rent to pay for
- 44:41Speaker 5: to get a sidewalk tax?
- 44:42Speaker 4: Doolong? Where'd that come from? Do you know what a
- 44:45Speaker 4: sidewalk tax is? You own a sidewalk.
- 44:46Speaker 5: You have to pay a tax on that sidewalk now
- 44:49Speaker 5: outside your home, isn't that what's the difference between that
- 44:51Speaker 5: and a PSL?
- 44:53Speaker 6: I thought the sidewalk was city property. I guess it
- 44:56Speaker 6: is your paining attax on it. You're paying attax, but
- 44:58Speaker 6: shouldn't it be part of your property tax?
- 45:02Speaker 4: Bro I don't know.
- 45:03Speaker 6: The The amount of creativity with taxes nowadays blows my mind, man,
- 45:07Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 45:07Speaker 2: I want to hear from you guys three oh three,
- 45:09Speaker 2: five oh four oh nine two.
- 45:11Speaker 6: It's like go buy, go, buy go, buy a ticket
- 45:13Speaker 6: to something and see how many fees are packed on.
- 45:15Speaker 4: You, you know. And that's the point. That's where we're at.
- 45:17Speaker 5: The when you when you live in a capitalistic society,
- 45:20Speaker 5: I don't know what loyalty is anymore. And it's not
- 45:23Speaker 5: just billionaires that are gouging you. Again, you think people
- 45:27Speaker 5: want to pay property taxes on top of sidewalk taxes?
- 45:31Speaker 4: What's that? I don't know.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Broncos ticket holders text in three oh three, five oh
- 45:36Speaker 2: four oh nine two five. If the Broncos do go
- 45:39Speaker 2: in fact forward with personal seating licenses PSLs, and you
- 45:44Speaker 2: currently hold Broncos tickets right now?
- 45:47Speaker 4: Will you be in or out? Let us know it?
- 45:49Speaker 2: Three oh three, five oh four O nine two five.
- 45:52Speaker 2: It's more Broncos training camp coverage on Altitude ninety two
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