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- 0:00And thirty eight. All Bills can win it here, Mike puts it down,
- 0:03the kick is on the way out and he's got on the bill.
- 0:06Good one one one they won Party one thirty eighth incredible, what a combat
- 0:18by my Bill Jackson Bills perfect record on the line right here, keeping eide
- 0:31touchdown, Kyle Williams touchdown. Amazing, unbelievable. They put in william who's
- 0:54hats to full back and he scores a touchdown. It's wealthier to face tackle.
- 1:08What's good, folks, Family Friends, loved One's Enemies, Friend of
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- 1:34Pro Underscore, Underscore ant that's Pro two Underscores. A n t Intnight's episode,
- 1:41I am exhausted mentally emotionally, physically, spiritually, even maybe we are
- 1:49coming to the end of the draft process. It is Draft miss Week.
- 1:53The NFL Draft will be live two nights from now Thursday, April twenty seventh,
- 1:59and then continue wing on Friday, April twenty eighth Saturday April twenty ninth.
- 2:02And with the draft about to begin again, we are coming to the
- 2:07end of the pre draft process. All the prospect evaluation, fits, the
- 2:12mock drafts, the discussion, the wants, the needs, the desires,
- 2:15all of those things are starting to come to a close. And in tonight's
- 2:20episode, wanted to take a bit of a different turn. So much of
- 2:23this predraft process has been here on this show and the Cover One channel,
- 2:28rightfully so has been on the focus of things from the Buffalo Bills perspective.
- 2:30What do you want for the Bills? What do we want for the Bills?
- 2:35Needs, scheme, fits, skill sets, positional upgrades. All of
- 2:38these pieces all from the eyes of the Buffalo Bills and through the lens of
- 2:44what the Buffalo Bills want. So I thought it'd be fun to flip that
- 2:47conversation a bit on its head and look at things into night's episode through the
- 2:52eyes of an enemy through the eyes of an opponent, and see what does
- 2:57a potential Buffalo Bills, you know, team not want the Buffalo Bills to
- 3:00do. Because sometimes in order to find what you need most, it's interesting
- 3:05to see what your enemies want you to do the least, and that can
- 3:08kind of put some things into perspective. And with that being said, going
- 3:12to bring up my guest for tonight's episode. You folks should know he's joined
- 3:16me multiple years now for the Buffalo Bills regular season games against the Kansas City
- 3:22Chiefs, mister mad Lane of the k C Sports Network, and you also
- 3:24contribute to the Draft Guy that you guys put out as well. You do
- 3:29a bunch of good work covering the Chiefs, covering college prospects. You and
- 3:31I were chopping in up earlier talking about how exhausted we are as we've come
- 3:35to the finish line here. You're awesome. Thank you for being here.
- 3:38I hate your hat, I hate your shirt, but I like you and
- 3:40respect you. Thanks for being here. Welcome. How you're feeling, you
- 3:45know, I'm feeling good. There's these these two different Super Bowl pairs of
- 3:47merchandise fit real well, still pretty recent. They're new We got one from
- 3:52like the last year that a couple of years ago. Yeah, it's just
- 3:53like, which one do I want to wear? Like, yeah, all
- 3:57the second one. I mean, you know there's you know, maybe I
- 4:00have some of the knockoffs from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost to you that might
- 4:02be somewhere sitting in a closet. No, thanks for having me on.
- 4:05I always enjoy coming on you know, we're we are busy during this time,
- 4:10like everybody is, and like I do work on a draft guide.
- 4:12We have kcs and stuff that I got going on. It's like I'm usually
- 4:15pretty busy. I don't do a lot of other podcasts because we have so
- 4:18much going on. My voice gets tired. You have a little bit of
- 4:21a farm, like I get. You know, there's a lot going on
- 4:24in my life. But when you asked me, I'm always ready to come
- 4:26on here. I love coming on here and hanging out with the Bills,
- 4:28my Bills friends slash enemies here. Yeah, I appreciate that. I appreciate
- 4:31the kind words. You are genuinely one of my favorite people that I've ever
- 4:36had on the show, which is weird because like I hate you so much
- 4:40and about like every everything about you, and I am planning like we talked
- 4:44we talked about on Twitter last week, like I am going to try and
- 4:46take over your farm with some of the farm takeover strategies that you talked about
- 4:49last week. Justice. Justice will be swift and it will be served.
- 4:55But I digress this episode. So I mentioned in the intro I thought it
- 5:00was a cool concept to have because again, like everything is always so focused
- 5:02on whoever covers what team. It's always like, what does our team need,
- 5:06whether it's you're looking at from you know, the team perspective, what
- 5:10you know, what you think they will do, or what I want them
- 5:13to do, so on and so forth. So I thought it'd be cool
- 5:15to flip things on its head a little bit again and look at things from
- 5:18an enemy perspective, because I think that kind of puts different needs and team
- 5:23building pieces into perspective when you see, you know, Okay, this is
- 5:29what I think we need to do, But what are your opponents think?
- 5:31And do that maybe lead you in that direction. Like if you've got your
- 5:33opponents and they're like, well, we definitely don't want them to do this,
- 5:36it's like interesting, Like maybe I didn't think of that or I didn't
- 5:40see it that way. So we're going to dive into ranking some things tonight
- 5:45from the perspective of Buffalo Bill's opponents. So obviously Matt has the perspective of
- 5:48the Kansas City Chiefs, who are a team that most Bills fans don't like
- 5:51in any which way, shape or form. But nonetheless, I thought mass
- 5:55perspective as as a person who analyzes and covers the Kansas City the Chiefs knows
- 6:00the ins and outs and xs and knows of their team end of football,
- 6:02combined with his draft prowess and knowledge, would be an awesome guest for tonight
- 6:06and Matt. Before we dive into that rankings piece and the focus on the
- 6:11draft, there's one I actually kind of a general leading question. So the
- 6:15Chiefs as your merchandise on your head and torso indicates won the Super Bowl once
- 6:21again. Yeah, you're really healing it up. I hate it, but
- 6:25I respected so much. The Chiefs won the Super Bowl again this past year,
- 6:29the second in the Reed Mahoons regime. There once again on top of
- 6:33the AFC throne and the NFL throne. When you look at the Buffalo Bills,
- 6:40one of several teams that have Super Bowl aspirations and realistic odds and chances
- 6:45to win a Super Bowl, but they are chasing the Kansas City Chiefs.
- 6:47When you look at the Buffalo Bills as things stand currently, how far away
- 6:51do you think they are from potentially dethroning the Kansas City Chiefs. We've seen
- 6:56back to back regular seasons. From these past couple of years, the Bills
- 6:59have beaten in the city. In Kansas City. We all know what happened
- 7:02in that stupid playoff game two years ago. They did not meet in the
- 7:05playoffs this year. Wait what happened? Can you can you tell me?
- 7:10Now? It's um? Now it's um, It's I can't even make a
- 7:14joke. I'm still like to hurt. You're a jerk. The Bills,
- 7:18you know, we have that bit of like a budding rivalry I think between
- 7:21the Chiefs and Bills, although the playoffs will ultimately decide it. Where do
- 7:26you see this Buffalo Bills team? How far away do you think they are
- 7:29from potentially knocking the Chiefs off of the mountaintop? Okay, so this is
- 7:33you know, I've healed it up a little bit, got my jokes off
- 7:35but now it's time to pander back to the crowd, right. Um,
- 7:39I still personally see the Bills kind of as the biggest challenger to the Chiefs
- 7:43going forward. Um, Bengals very good team. They obviously did get the
- 7:46Chiefs in the playoffs two years ago. They beat him in the regular season
- 7:49again last year, like they have the three and one record verse the Chiefs
- 7:53over the last couple of years. But I just when we still go up
- 7:56and match up against the Bengals, it seems like they live on such thin
- 8:00margins that I still have all the confidence in the world. And the Chiefs
- 8:03and the Bengals play, the Chiefs are gonna win, and it's the Bengals
- 8:05path. The beating the Chiefs seems so narrow all the time that I just
- 8:09can't believe it keeps happening. Whereas the Bills, on the other hand,
- 8:13Yeah, it's still the Chiefs are always going to have a narrow path to
- 8:16lose a game, right There are a good football team, so it's always
- 8:18going to be hard. But I can see the Chiefs go in and play
- 8:22the Bills and give an a minus game and still lose because the Bills a
- 8:26plus game beats that the Bills a game will still beat them at that point
- 8:30in time. They can play almost equally, and the Bills have enough talent,
- 8:33they have a quarterback that has enough talent that they can beat the Chiefs
- 8:37who play a very good game. I think every other AFC team needs the
- 8:41Chiefs to play a poor or a mediocre game to beat them. The Bills
- 8:45are right there. I do think the issue the Bills have run into with
- 8:48the Chiefs and the playoffs, or even the Bengals or whoever it might be
- 8:52in the playoffs these past couple of years, when it comes that crunch time,
- 8:54and I don't just mean, like you know, high pressures are just
- 8:56generally high pressure situations, it seems like they are no longer playing their best
- 9:01football all the time when that comes up, whether offensively, defensively, as
- 9:07specific player, the coaches, whoever it may be, it seems like that
- 9:11pressure just builds up and it becomes just a little bit too much. I
- 9:13think they just need to get over that hump one time and that all changes.
- 9:18But until they get there, that just mounts and gets bigger and bigger
- 9:22and bigger, and eventually you either got to get over it or you unfortunately
- 9:26come up against kind of a reset to figure out how you get there.
- 9:28Yeah, you either kind of break that piece a little bit and the pressure
- 9:33dissipates, or it continues to mount and build and it crushes you underneath the
- 9:37weight of it. And that's a very real thing. I think that's very
- 9:41well said, and it's something that I echo, I echoed, I think
- 9:46out loud verbally on the show or on Twitter, or at least in my
- 9:50mind, like, Yeah, it just seems that whether it's the moment from
- 9:54like a large scale like the Bengals game as a whole, or the detailed
- 9:58small scale moment like thirteen seconds, which you were so kind to bring up
- 10:01and remind us of because you're such a gentleman like those, whether it's the
- 10:05small scale niche moment or the large scale piece, like you know, it's
- 10:09I mean, we see it in you see it in movies and storylines like
- 10:13and you see it in real sports, Like it's not just for an entertainment
- 10:16or to write articles or store like draw drama or storylines like. The pressure
- 10:22is a real thing and it manifests physically on the field, whether in plays
- 10:26that are called or decisions that are made or execution on the field, and
- 10:28it just seems like, for whatever reason, in those crunch time moments in
- 10:33the playoffs, yeah, the Bills have kind of faltered a little bit and
- 10:37against the team like the Chiefs, like you just I like the margin for
- 10:39error comment you made about the Bills, because what makes the Chiefs so hard
- 10:45to beat year in and year out is because you have Patrick Mahomes, because
- 10:48you have Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey and then the playmakers that they have on
- 10:52defense, your margin for error against them is so small. I mean,
- 10:56even take the Jags for a little bit. I'm not sitting here saying the
- 11:01Jags we're going to beat the Chiefs, but you drop that interception that Chad
- 11:03Henny maybe gifted to you when Patrick Mahomes goes out like and then you fumble
- 11:09down like inside the low red zone against the Chiefs, Like the Chiefs are
- 11:13in that spot now where almost any mistake you just feel like, well,
- 11:18you know what, we did everything right nine on of ten, but that
- 11:20one thing we did is the reason we didn't win the game. And they
- 11:24make the margin for error so small, and it's why they're so frustrating.
- 11:28Well, I think the hard part two is from the Bill standpoint too,
- 11:31Like you're talking about these big picture games or a minor not even minor,
- 11:35but like small details. But now I think it's transitioning to team building in
- 11:39general, right, Like now there's this pressure that the builds are having of
- 11:43trying to essentially chase the Chiefs. Right. I don't want to say this
- 11:46be cocky, but like everyone's chasing the Chiefs again right now, and especially
- 11:50in the AFC. You can't if you're in the Bill shoes, you can't
- 11:54just build a team to only beat the Chiefs, because now the Bengals have
- 11:56caught up, and so the team that can beat the Chiefs might not beat
- 12:00the Bengals, or the team that can beat the Chiefs might not beat the
- 12:01Dolphins or whoever else is coming, right, but you still have to also
- 12:05beat the Chiefs. And then you go back to that margin of airthing.
- 12:09If you build a team that's okay, like it's a really good team,
- 12:13but not centered around just beating Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, which is a
- 12:16different task, how does that play out in the playoffs. It's like,
- 12:18now the Bills have to find out how they want to build their team while
- 12:22chasing another team with other good teams Likes I'm saying the word team eight hundred
- 12:28times here, but it just kind of becomes this crazy circle of like,
- 12:31how do you chase one team that you clearly have to get over the hump
- 12:33against while not letting everybody else catch up to you? And so now it
- 12:37goes back to there's pressure and team building. Bill's done a very good job
- 12:41building their team, right, But it feels like this draft's kind of big
- 12:43for you guys, just in terms of adding young talent to this team,
- 12:46and not even just young talent, like getting guys that are just just solid,
- 12:50like just getting guys that can go out there and play, maybe not
- 12:52necessarily. I don't know. You can tell me. Do you guys want
- 12:54big splashes? Do you just want a solid group of guys that can play
- 12:58early? Like I don't know the best path for them, but it just
- 13:01feels like they need to have a big draft this year. This draft is
- 13:05super important, not just for twenty twenty three, but you know for twenty
- 13:09twenty four and beyond. The Bills are now in that territory that any team
- 13:13with the franchise quarterback gets into where you pay the franchise quarterback, and now
- 13:16you have to get that cheap, effective talent, usually via the draft,
- 13:22to be able to maintain functionality and have a solid floor and all your positions
- 13:26across as many spots as you can offensively and defensively. And the Bills have.
- 13:31The Bills have significant questions. I've talked about it all offseason on this
- 13:33show, like like right now, they have no defensive tackles on the roster
- 13:37for twenty twenty four, and that's not great for a team that is primarily
- 13:43driven defensively by their defensive line. Like, they've had some questions at offensive
- 13:46line that I think they raised the floor four. You've got some questions at
- 13:50wide receiver. You know, we might be doing this dance at safety again
- 13:54next year if Mica Hide doesn't come back. There are questions on this roster
- 13:58that it's unfortunate this draft class isn't the strongest, especially if the positions of
- 14:03need for the Buffalo Bills and overall, like, I don't think this is
- 14:07the draft class to be like, oh sweet, we can plug all these
- 14:09holes or upgrade all these positions in this draft class. But yeah, they
- 14:13this draft and this offseason as a whole was very important to them, not
- 14:16just for twenty twenty three, but in terms of setting themselves right going forward
- 14:22as Josh Allen's contract starts to kick in further and further as you go forward.
- 14:26And I also thought, you know, I just wanted to touch on
- 14:28the point you made, you know, when you're chasing, because it was
- 14:30such a great point. When you're chasing the top dog, you still have
- 14:35to make sure you're able to beat the rest of the dogs that are around
- 14:39you and ackotize into my philosophy I always have for team building, like it's
- 14:43that rock, paper, scissors ability, Like you need to be able to
- 14:46throw all three. You can't just be rock because you know, okay,
- 14:48so if the chiefs are paper and your notes, well, the chiefs would
- 14:52be scissors. If the chiefs are scissors and your rock, sweet, guess
- 14:54what, you smash them all day? You win. What happens if you
- 14:56play a team that's paper like what happens if you build a tremendous you know,
- 15:03coverage unit on defense built to stop the pass. That's what you're going
- 15:07towards. That's what you're going towards. And then I don't know, you
- 15:09played like the Ravens in the wildcard round of the playoffs, and they're like,
- 15:13cool, We're just going to run it fifty five times on you and
- 15:15keep the ball away from you, and then you're gonna lose. And then
- 15:16it's like you built this team to beat this one team and you never even
- 15:20got And that's and that's part I think of the pressure point too, like
- 15:24then you're caught like chasing your tail a little bit because you're trying to beat
- 15:28this one team. But then are you at a disadvantage against the other teams?
- 15:31And okay, does does the playoff seating fall the right way with the
- 15:35way that you're built versus the teams that you play and how And it's so
- 15:39frustrating and so dumb, and I hate sports, but I also love them,
- 15:45and it's it's the enigma that is being a sports fan, and especially
- 15:48when you I think when you understudy, when you understand and study the xs
- 15:52and ose and the schematic pieces of everything, and for me, like every
- 15:56free agent signing, every roster to decision, it's all dialed up to like
- 16:02ten because I feel like I'm seeing the ones and zeros like Neo and the
- 16:04matrix, and like every someone would be like, oh, that guy's okay,
- 16:07and I'm over here like freaking out for like no reason, And it's
- 16:11just I feel that pressure. And I'm not even I'm not one of the
- 16:15coaches with the giro on the field, like, so imagine what they think,
- 16:18like roster building. Yeah, especially when that that top dog is in
- 16:23your conference or is a rival like and the factor in the copycat league and
- 16:27so on and so forth. It it really the money mundies the waters in
- 16:30a whole bunch of ways. I'm stressed, but I'm also it would be
- 16:37it'd be really cool if the NFC would keep a quarterback or two as well,
- 16:40Like that would be awesome. We were talking about a bit offline,
- 16:42like the AFC sucked for years. When the Patriots are running things and then
- 16:49the Bills get Josh Allen and the Bills are good, but it's like,
- 16:52no, now Miami is gonna be good and the Jets are gonna be good,
- 16:55and then they're gonna get Aaron Rodgers and the Patriots aren't great, but
- 16:56they're still like good enough. And then there's Patrick Mahomes and there's Justin Herbert
- 17:00and there's Joe Burrow. And then we're over in the NFC being like,
- 17:03who's the best quarterback in the NFC, And it's like Jalen Hurts, question
- 17:08Mark, Like not that he's not that. I don't want to take anything
- 17:11away from Jalen Hurts, like and I think he deserved the contract he got,
- 17:14but like, I don't know the five if we ranked the best quarterbacks
- 17:18in the league, they're probably all in the AFC. Oh, yeah,
- 17:22I mean I think so. I mean even beyond that too, just like
- 17:25your best teams, Like, yes, the Eagles were a very good team
- 17:26last year, they've belong to the Super Bowl, but after that and especially
- 17:30once I mean, especially with quarterback injuries, but even without, Like how
- 17:33many teams from the AFC would be favored over the forty nine ers if they
- 17:37were all to be matched up, even at the end of last year,
- 17:40right, Like the AFC is just loaded a team like the Niners. The
- 17:44Niners are sweet, right, but I don't know, like there are they
- 17:48really gonna go with Brock Purty, Like we don't even know what his arm
- 17:49is gonna look like. And then if it's not him, is it's Sam
- 17:52Darnold or Trey Lance, Like granted the rest of their squad is stacked and
- 17:56really good, but also like that that's what you're talking about in the NFC,
- 18:00And is it the Cowboys? Is it the Eagles? Like is it
- 18:03the Niners? And then you look at the AFC and it's just this murderers
- 18:07row of stupidity And it's just like that always goes back to like the paranoid
- 18:12that exists to me as like a Bills fan, just like like it never
- 18:15works out, like it's always there's always something else. Like you think you
- 18:19turn the corner and you're like, I'm going to escape the haunted house.
- 18:22And then you like turn the corner and you're like, oh no, this
- 18:25is like a hall of mirrors. I have no idea where I am.
- 18:27This sucks. And then you escape that and you're like, sweet, no,
- 18:30now I'm in a labyrinth, Like where am I? Like what's going
- 18:32on? It's just you turn one corner or you go through one door and
- 18:36another roadblock or obstacle. Mr just but nonetheless, let's dive into the topic
- 18:41for this episode, The Buffalo Bills twenty twenty three NFL Draft Anti Wishless.
- 18:48So many things are wish lists driven, Oh, I'd like this guy.
- 18:51I'd like to see this position address. But again, for this episode,
- 18:53we are flipping that idea on its head a bit. For everybody who's joining
- 18:59us live here. You know how we like to do on the show.
- 19:00A questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, throw them up into the chat.
- 19:03I will start them, and then once I send Matt on his merry
- 19:06way, I will bring things back up towards the end of the episode,
- 19:08especially, I want to get all your folks. Is your anti wish list
- 19:12things. Maybe it's a specific player you don't want position, so on and
- 19:15so forth. We'll dive into that on the back end of the episode.
- 19:18But right now, because we're joined by mister Matt Lane of the Casey Sports
- 19:23Network, Matt, we're gonna lead off with your number one when it's come
- 19:26into this NFL draft for the Buffalo Bills, what is the top thing?
- 19:30If you are an opponent of the Buffalo Bills, which technically you are,
- 19:33what do you not want to see them do in this draft? And I
- 19:37should also say for people I don't know Matt's answers, and they could be
- 19:41position specific, they could be players specific. There's a lot of ways that
- 19:45he could answered this question. A lot of avenues potentially go down. So
- 19:48what's the top thing you do not want to see? The Buffaloes? Do?
- 19:52Buff the Buffaloes? The buffalo Bills do? I'm falling apart. Go
- 19:55ahead, I'm gonna I'm gonna start at the top here and we're gonna go
- 19:57player specific to start. And it's a guy that I like, And it's
- 20:02a two full answer here. I don't want to see him on the Bills
- 20:03because I think it makes him a lot better. But I also if he's
- 20:07available to Bills pick I think they should just let him go by so the
- 20:08Chiefs can maybe draft them. Jordan Addison, wide receiver out of USC.
- 20:12I don't know how Bills fans feel about him. I know a lot of
- 20:15people are torn on him because he weighs like one hundred and fifty pounds.
- 20:18And I get it, I one hundred percent get it. But I love
- 20:22Jordan Addison. I think he walks into the NFL and is able to get
- 20:26open when you need him to get open on all three levels of the field
- 20:29because of his route running, because of how well he understands coverage. I
- 20:33think he gives them that option across from Stefan Diggs that can be reliable.
- 20:37I love Gay Bavis. I would take Game Davis on the Chiefs ten out
- 20:38of ten times right now, But I don't know if I would call him
- 20:41a guy that's going to reliably be open on any point in time that we
- 20:45have to call his number because our other guy is getting doubled or getting taken
- 20:48out of this game or whatever. I think Addison would give them that guy,
- 20:52and I think the Chiefs really need that guy. I really don't want
- 20:56to see the Bills have two people that start to build that connection with Josh
- 20:59Allen that just to get open. The Chiefs were great this past year without
- 21:02Tyreek Hill, but there was still a difference when push came to shov and
- 21:06the offense needed a play. Having Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey having two guys
- 21:11that had the upmost confidence from your quarterback in the offense, I don't want
- 21:15to see the Bills get that. And Addison's the one guy that I think
- 21:18walks in like right away and can probably build on that. So please do
- 21:21not take him if he is available. Is is that answer more Jordan Addison
- 21:27driven or more wide receiver weapon driven free. Yeah, it's it's probably fifty
- 21:37fifty both. I really do like Addison, so he's he's my top wife.
- 21:40I knew you're I thought as soon as you started talking about like someone
- 21:42you don't want you'd like to go to the Chiefs, like, because I
- 21:45follow you on Twitter, like I see your timeline, I immediate it was
- 21:48like, it's gonna be Jordan Addison, So that yeah, and that's the
- 21:49one. It's like. I would still have the same feeling if it was
- 21:52a Flowers or for whatever reason, Jackson Smith and Jigba fell that far,
- 21:56but it would be more prominent to me if it was Jordan Addison. I
- 22:00think you'll play in the outside of the NFL. No, you don't want
- 22:03to slap him on the line of scrimmage for one hundred percent of his snaps
- 22:07and have him go beat a corner. But if you keep him off the
- 22:10line of scrimmage or you just have him do it occasionally, I don't think
- 22:12it will be a problem. So, yeah, it's mostly player. It's
- 22:15position driven, but the player being Addison being ready right away, beating man,
- 22:19beating coverage, it just amplifies it and it makes it that much more
- 22:23because you give the Bills Quinton Johnson even or is a Flowers. I think
- 22:27he adds more dynamic ability to the team. It's really good, it makes
- 22:30them better. But I still wonder if you come back to that same reliability
- 22:34or consistency issue that that feels like they're missing. Outside of Staffon Dix.
- 22:38Is he your wide receiver one in this draft class? He is? And
- 22:44part of that is slanted towards the Chiefs a little bit because I do think
- 22:47that they need that reliability. So like and then like for Json specifically,
- 22:52I push him down just a tiny bit because I think he is pretty exclusive
- 22:56to operating in the same space Travis Kelsey is, and not that that's a
- 22:59bad thing, just that does impact the rankings a little bit. So Addison
- 23:02is my wide receiver run one? Though right now, one more question for
- 23:06you around wider SIP pieces. We've seen what Patrick Mahomes ad any read By
- 23:11extension have done well. Granted maybe the sample size is a bit smaller because
- 23:15it was really just this past year, but the idea of them being able
- 23:17to take guys like Marques Valdes, scant Lang and Juju Smith Schuster, and
- 23:21I guess Kadarius, Tony and skymore to a degree, but the whole idea
- 23:25of if you've got that great trigger man, you can just drop in little
- 23:27pieces here and there, and you know that guy, that trigger man like
- 23:30Mahomes or Alan or whoever, can raise the game of those pieces that you've
- 23:34dropped in and kind of make everything fit. Do you see you know we're
- 23:40talking an offline a bit about you know, Mahomes and Alan and how good
- 23:44Alan is and how good Mahomes is. Do you see Allan as that guy
- 23:49that you can kind of just drop in any weapon around him and he can
- 23:55raise their game or do you think he needs more players specific skill set pieces
- 24:00then Mahomes does. And if by so, like, how like how much
- 24:04you know you know you that there? Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna
- 24:08say right now just because we haven't seen him go through the full wholesale change
- 24:12that we just had to see Mahomes go through over the past two years,
- 24:15and Mahomes has completely revamped how he played the game when he first started starting
- 24:19in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen to where he is now. It's like he's
- 24:23kind of been forced to do it. So we've seen him do that,
- 24:26and then we saw him do it with all new pieces. We haven't really
- 24:29had to see Josh Allen do that yet, and it does seem like the
- 24:33times where he does start to struggle the most is when what he does well
- 24:37is taken away. Now, I still love Josh Allen because he's like,
- 24:40hey, you want to take away my deep ball, that's fun. I'm
- 24:41just gonna throw it even deeper and it works, and like, that's that's
- 24:44awesome. I wish Mahomes did that more. That's actually one thing I do
- 24:47wish that he did. But I do think Allan needs a guys that are
- 24:51a little bit more specific to his skill set right now, or at least,
- 24:53we haven't seen him do it with guys that are just kind of being
- 24:56dropped in and put out there and then saying, Okay, Josh, we
- 25:00need you to make this work. Now. The it's now on you.
- 25:03It's your problem to make this work. Go figure it out, and not
- 25:07as a punishment. Just as we believe you can do it, let's see
- 25:11you do it. I just don't know if we've gotten there yet. Very
- 25:14fair, very fair, good answer. I knew this would lead to I
- 25:17knew each one of your answers would lead to like questions that I would have
- 25:21in like the organic conversation. I'm pretty happy with that first answer. Um,
- 25:26It's funny, you know you mentioned how Bills fans feel about Jordan Addison.
- 25:29I think for Bills fans, the holy grail of receivers to fall would
- 25:33be Jackson Smith and Jake bob One Just I think a lot of it is
- 25:37due to that slot nature that he plays or that he works in. Just
- 25:42we saw the Bills offense look and feel different this past year without the presence
- 25:48of a legitimately dominant slot receiver like a Cole Beasley. Like it just Beasley's
- 25:53ability to leverage space and read coverage and be able to understand what's happening from
- 25:59the chas from pre to post snap, and be able to do all of
- 26:03that quickly and accurately and on the same level in plane as Josh Allen.
- 26:07I thought that was a big, you know, hindrance to Josh Allen's performance
- 26:11last year because he didn't have that safety net and that reliability piece, you
- 26:15know, in the middle of the field and in that slot, and Jack's
- 26:18operates in that world. He's very comfortable He's got some size on him,
- 26:22He's got that athleticism. He is, I think, kind of priority number
- 26:25one for the Bills Addison. I think Addison's in that second tier depending on
- 26:30who you ask. Jackson I think is in the tier of his own.
- 26:33And then it's Addison, Zay Flowers, and Josh Downs, the slot receiver
- 26:38from North Carolina that are like Bills fans darlings. You know. Downs again
- 26:42is he reminds people of Cole Beasley with how he runs his routes and paces,
- 26:47and so I think he kind of put him into that role. Bills
- 26:49fans really want that slot piece. But there's some sexiness to Zay Flowers.
- 26:52Addison was the ideal one, and I think a lot of people got scared
- 26:56off because he weighs, you know, one hundred and ten pounds, soak
- 27:00and wet. But to your point, when you watch the tape, really
- 27:03polished, good route runner, Like, I think he can succeed on the
- 27:07outside, even though his frame and size might be like you know, he
- 27:10kind of need to work inside. But I mean, you pair him with
- 27:14a Stefon Diggs with how Addison already operates as a route runner and his understanding
- 27:18of leverage and finding space and ability to beat man in his own That's a
- 27:22very interesting combination in terms of what you can do to help him potentially get
- 27:26to his ceiling even further. So good answer to start off, I like
- 27:30it, and get jsin for the Bills makes a ton of sense, right,
- 27:33because the outside receivers are set. Diggs can play inside, but I
- 27:36think he's been a lot more productive when he's outside. Absolutely. Gabriel Davis
- 27:40obviously is an outside guy. So you have those guys kind of set up.
- 27:42Yes, Dawson Knox lives over the middle a little bit, but not
- 27:45still in the same way. So yeah, Jsen being the top guy for
- 27:48the Bills, I would one hundred percent agree with there. That would be
- 27:52also very scary. I just don't think he'll be there, So I left
- 27:55him completely off, right, So I went to you know, the next
- 27:56guy on the list. No, absolutely, and I don't even I want.
- 28:00I mean, the receiver class is weird in general in terms of like
- 28:03how it's gonna fall, Like who even Quentin Johnson, who you mentioned,
- 28:07Like before the draft process started, it was like, well, this dude's
- 28:11like six foot four, He's gonna run a four fourth, and then then
- 28:14he's like six foot two and he runs a four or five one, and
- 28:17you know then you you know, watch the on tape stuff and how high
- 28:21cut he is and he doesn't, you know, high point the football.
- 28:22He's a body catch or all these other things. But this wide receiver class
- 28:26is so weird. I wonder how it falls. I don't think Jack's has
- 28:29any shot of making too the Bills of twenty seven, and I wonder,
- 28:32I wonder who the first non Jackson Smith and Jigbu receiver is off the board.
- 28:37Is It'say Flowers? Is it Jordan Addison? Like you've got a team
- 28:41like the Giants sitting right in front of the Bills. If they get their
- 28:45pick, like, do they lean Flowers? I think Addison makes sense,
- 28:48but they could use Flowers like it's It's really interesting in terms of trying to
- 28:52see where the receivers are gonna fall, because so much of it, given
- 28:56the skill set and frame of the receivers in this class, is so team
- 29:00specific. Even Jackson Smith and Jigba right, like, so a lot of
- 29:03people have him as their wide receiver. One. Well, I don't know
- 29:06if a team doesn't need a slot receiver or doesn't run a bunch of eleven
- 29:10personnel? Is he their wide receiver one? Like? And if they want
- 29:14more of a guy who can live more on the outside and push things further
- 29:18into the boundary? Yeah, is he? Where does he fall? Is
- 29:22he your wide receiver? Three? Four? Like? Even though his talent
- 29:26might be better, where do you rank him? Like? The team fit
- 29:30combined with the sizes and frames all these guys make it such a muddy class.
- 29:33I hate this wide receiver class. I hate it absolutely, Like it's
- 29:36just like everybody's like five foot six and one hundred and sixty pounds like slot
- 29:41guys. Maybe they could play some Z Like the only true X guys you
- 29:45have are Johnston and like at Perry and maybe Jonathan Mingo and Cedric Tillman,
- 29:51like because everyone else is just smurfs. It's so just muddied and weird.
- 29:55And even all of those guys have like glaring red flags. You know,
- 29:59Tilman come in the fake offense and we just don't talk about it because he's
- 30:02not high and Het Perry's offense might even be more fake than Tennessee is.
- 30:06And then bingo, bingo, I have the like least I can't just poke
- 30:11random holes in his game. He just wasn't that for a dug Like people
- 30:14talk about him in the A. J. Brown level, and like he
- 30:17just wasn't that guy in college. Not that he can't develop, but he
- 30:19wasn't that guy. But it's a lot of projections based. Everyone has somebody
- 30:22read flags. This wide receiver class. I don't hate it, but it's
- 30:26really hard to wrap your minder, and you have to be okay with a
- 30:29I don't want to say non complete wide receiver, but just a wide receiver
- 30:33that has issues, that's not a perfect player. You have to be really
- 30:36okay with it if you're going that route. Yeah, like a guy that
- 30:38you really might not see what he can do until year two or year three,
- 30:42Like you've got to work out some of those kinks. There's not as
- 30:45many. This year's class doesn't have Wilson and London and Jamison Williams and Jehan
- 30:52Dots and even somebody who I had his like wide receiver six for me last
- 30:56year, like Treylan Burkes, like he had a good rookie year and like
- 30:59maybe he tops the class this year. Like it's just it's so wonky and
- 31:02it's so Muddy, So very interesting that you want with wide receiver there,
- 31:04and you're pick Addison, who I do like as well, So I a
- 31:07second year notion there, Let's move to the second So the number one thing
- 31:12you do not want to see the Buffalo Bills do in this draft is add
- 31:17Jordan Addison, wide receiver from the University of Southern California. What is the
- 31:22number two thing you do not want to see the Bills do? A right,
- 31:25this was less players specific, It's more just like a results based thing.
- 31:29I don't want to see the Bills hit on multiple defensive linemen in like
- 31:33the way the Chiefs did. Okay, And so when I say and then
- 31:36when I say the Chiefs, I mean like they did at cornerback last year.
- 31:38So if for you know, those that might not be familiar, they
- 31:41drafted Trey mcduffy in round one, Joshua Williams in round five, Jalen Watson
- 31:45in round seven, all of them played. All of them played very important
- 31:49roles, very specific roles for this team throughout the season. Right, So
- 31:53they're not all going to be All stars. Two of them, two of
- 31:56the rookies. The day three guys got picked on and stretches. They were
- 31:59per picked players by any means, but they were very good rookies that played
- 32:04a vital part of winning the Super Bowl. They filled specific roles. So
- 32:07the Bills coming out of this draft with three defensive linemen, maybe one of
- 32:10them taken in the first round as a three down player, you know,
- 32:13plays all the time, has a big impact. We'll call him the Trim
- 32:15mcduffee of a defensive linemen. Then we'll say the next guy in Day two
- 32:20or Day three there in the middle, plays a lot of snaps, but
- 32:22maybe he's only a one and a half down player, a run plugger that
- 32:25just stuffs a lot of runs that come his way. He's not a perfect
- 32:28player, but very useful. And then they get a Round seven guy that
- 32:31comes in and just provides flashes and splash plays like the Jalen Watson, a
- 32:37couple of picks, a couple like two straight picks in the playoffs, you
- 32:38know what I mean. Just like all these different levels along the defensive line,
- 32:42they don't all have to be home runs. They just have to be
- 32:44quality players. But the Bills doing that on the defensive line to further bolster
- 32:49the team that kind of started the trend of just having this giant rotation on
- 32:52the D line right, I think the Bills were one of the first teams
- 32:54to do it, and now all of a sudden, the Eagles are getting
- 32:57all the credit for only playing three snaps in a row before subbing guys out.
- 33:00I remember the Bills when the Chiefs were getting ready to gear up for
- 33:04that playoff game two years three years ago, the Bills were like, oh,
- 33:07full on defensive line rotation, full on defensive line rotation, Like getting
- 33:10that covered full again would not be fun as a Chiefs fan. Do you
- 33:15see so with the Bills defensive line where it currently stands right now, You've
- 33:20got Von Miller coming back from injury. You've got and we're just focused on
- 33:22the edge group right now like Von Miller, A j Vanessa, Greg Rousseau,
- 33:27Boogie Basham, a couple other like young guys that haven't really factored in
- 33:30it as of now. And then on the interior you've got Da Kwon Jones,
- 33:34You've got Ed Oliver, Jordan Phillips has come back, Tim Settle his
- 33:37back had a bit of a wonky year. As the defensive line stands now,
- 33:42do you see this group as like how do you if the Bills and
- 33:45Chiefs are playing right now and you're looking at that Bills defensive line against that
- 33:50Chiefs offensive line, is it a group that poses any type of threat to
- 33:53you? Or are you very confident in the Chiefs offensive line against the Bills
- 33:57d line. I mean, I gotta see the Chiefs tackles right now,
- 34:00right because it's a little bit up in the air with them replacing both tackles.
- 34:02But just generally speaking from what I've seen to the Chiefs, it doesn't
- 34:06It does not strike fear in me. They see they seem formidable, but
- 34:09they're not a defensive line. When the Chefs are going to play the Bills,
- 34:13I'm not thinking this is going to be one of those games where Mahomes
- 34:15is going to have to be perfect in the pocket or make a ton of
- 34:17plays with his legs. It's the Bills can do stuff to frustrate them.
- 34:22They can have somebody can have a good game. We've seen just about all
- 34:23of these guys have good games versus the Chiefs. But I don't think that
- 34:29Bills defensive line has really made their presence supremely felt versus the Chiefs. And
- 34:34so that's where I think just getting even more depth and deep ish defensive line
- 34:37group. I think the issue you guys ran into last year obviously von Miller
- 34:40getting hurt really you know, put a big damper on things, right like,
- 34:44and you can't predict that, but I can also say he's a veteran
- 34:47player, relying on him for a lot of snaps, you better have backups
- 34:51ready to come in and play and if this does happen again, So just
- 34:54having that depth there to just throw waves of bodies that can be efficient at
- 35:00a certain moment. Maybe now all of a sudden, yeah, they're still
- 35:01not taking over the game, but there's never also a point where you don't
- 35:05feel their presence, and I feel like at times the Bills defensive line kind
- 35:08of disappears. I think it's very well said, and it's it's something that
- 35:13has resonated with me this entire offseason when I've gone over the metrics, which
- 35:20are there's a severe drop for the Bills defens as a whole, but especially
- 35:22that defensive line in terms of Pastor's productivity and production in general. Once von
- 35:25Miller went down and for a grouping that you know, Brandon Bean and Sean
- 35:30McDermot had both come out and explicitly stated like they believe in building the defense
- 35:34from the defensive line out, and a grouping that's had a top ten pick
- 35:37recently in at Oliver, a first round pick in Greg Russo, a second
- 35:40round pick in Boogie Basham, a second round pick in Ajpanessa, and all
- 35:45the other defensive line additions through free agency. To have that level of production
- 35:52drop off, just Von Miller is tremendous, He's a Hall of Famer.
- 35:55But to have your group disappear, like you said at times and kind of
- 36:00fall off a cliff just because one guy went out. Understandably that one guy
- 36:06is tremendous, But to have that level of production dip despite all the investment
- 36:10that you've had has been a tremendously worrisome thing to me. And I think
- 36:15you nailed it on the head, like it's not a group that if you're
- 36:19facing like a good offensive line, you're like, hey, we could probably
- 36:22win this matchup, Like, yeah, they got some guys, but we'll
- 36:23be all right. And I don't think that that should not be an offensive
- 36:28group's thought, considering all the investment you poured into that position. Group so
- 36:32very well said. I also wanted to ask you a question. We talked
- 36:35about this offline, the Chiefs corners. You know, you mentioned several of
- 36:40their rookie corners who had good years. They had a tremendous rookie class.
- 36:44In general. You have the rookie corners, you have what karloftis did you
- 36:46even what you got from Cook at times at safety and what he was able
- 36:51to do you got. You know, you're getting base personnel wraps out of
- 36:53Leo chanalog just because you're just like, hey, let's just have you run
- 36:57as fast as you can and blitz and run into linemen or make plays in
- 37:00the backfield and see what happens. They really used him to his skill set
- 37:02well. But we talked about this offline. This is a thing for Bills
- 37:07fans, and I've said it had been on the show here, but you
- 37:09know, you are a Chiefs guy, So I want to talk to you
- 37:12about it, and then I'll probably clip it and use it as promo at
- 37:15some point. So many Bills fans are focused on the notion of you have
- 37:19to play rookies, you have to play rookies, you have to play rookies,
- 37:21And they used the chief success last year because well, look what the
- 37:23Chiefs did with their rookies, and they won the Super Bowl and now they're
- 37:27set up for all this success. But talk about, especially in the secondary,
- 37:30talk about why the Chiefs had to rely on those rookies. So,
- 37:35yes, they drafted the right players, those players played well. This is
- 37:38not to take anything away from the draft pick or the selection, or the
- 37:43players playing well and executing, or the decision to put them in there.
- 37:45The coaches are coaching them up, so on and so forth, but talk
- 37:49about why there was no other option, like they whether the rookies played well
- 37:53or didn't, they had to play their rookies, especially in the secondary,
- 37:57Like that's just where their depth chart was they had to lean into. But
- 38:01it's funny because Chiefs fans got really upset at Steve Spagnolo, the defensive coordinator,
- 38:06for never playing rookies. Like right, that's kind of the mantra going
- 38:08into this last year. And the Chiefs were also under fire specifically talking corners
- 38:13right now of not investing in the cornerback position. So the Chiefs go into
- 38:16the draft, they have not taken anything above like a Day three corner under
- 38:21Brett Beach. They haven't signed a corner and free agency for more than like
- 38:23three million dollars per year under Brett Beach. The whole joke is they don't
- 38:28value corner at all. They trade up for Trent mcduffee. They then draft
- 38:30three more cornerbacks throughout the rest of the draft. So you go into training
- 38:35camp and the competition is Lagerry Steve, who's gonna start. Rashad Finton,
- 38:38who is a Day three pick from three years ago who's always just been fine.
- 38:44He's always kind of been like a fourth corner that gets some reps to
- 38:46start when someone gets hurt. They brought in I'm gonna free Lonnie Johnson from
- 38:52the Houston Texans to be competing for a job. The year before, they
- 38:54had Mike Hughes. We saw how well that went in the playoffs. They
- 38:58didn't bring him back. Like they didn't have corners. They had a bunch
- 39:00of journeyman corners or homegrown guys that were Day three picks that were vying for
- 39:07first starting jobs. So Trent McDuffie comes in, is a first round pick.
- 39:09Yeah, he's probably going to start in Week one against the Arizona Cardinals
- 39:14because his only competition is really other rookies, and then Lonnie Johnson who has
- 39:17been kicked around from corner to safety to corner to safety, and so as
- 39:22the year went on, Trent McDuffie gets hurt, Lonnie Johnson gets cut for
- 39:24Shan Finton's banged up a little bit. Well, guests, who has to
- 39:28start? Now the day three rookies are now thrust in there. Then the
- 39:31Chiefs and their ultimate wisdom decide we will trade Rashad Finton. So that way,
- 39:37I don't know what the rationale, as we joked that it was so
- 39:38that they had to keep playing rookies who were playing well and not put him
- 39:42back on the field. But they trade away the most proven, the most
- 39:45tenured guy in that CB room, and now you are forced to play Legariu
- 39:49Steenen rookies. That's the legitimately their only options besides special teamers. And that's
- 39:53just that's the way it shook out. And even these other guys you talk
- 39:55about with Brian Cook Leo Chanel, the Chiefs just he didn't have players at
- 40:00those positions. I mean they coming off of John Dorsey to Brett Veach.
- 40:04That was something the Chiefs lacked was depth under John Dorsey and Brett Veach has
- 40:07slowly been building depth at certain positions. But when you have to rebuild an
- 40:12offensive line unit, when you have to rebuild a wide receiver room, you
- 40:15take a stall at, you stall out a little bit adding death. They
- 40:19had no depth at this in the secondary, they had no depth at some
- 40:22of these positions. They drafted, so rookies had to play. So yes,
- 40:24they earned the job over other depth guys, but they weren't beating out
- 40:28proven starters. They weren't beating out even bottom tier starters. They were beating
- 40:32out other journeyman players. For those reps, Thank you so much. I
- 40:38hope that helps. It does help tremendously. The big one that it,
- 40:44like we talked about offline, that it comes back to, is you know,
- 40:45people want to hire Elam playing ahead of Dane Jackson. And the thing
- 40:50that I had was Dane Jackson didn't have as bad of a year that people
- 40:52think he did. He was in like the top third of the league in
- 40:54a bunch of different metrics, efficiency metrics, and Elam had some struggles as
- 40:59well. But my whole contention was the Chiefs didn't have a Dane Jackson at
- 41:04corner like they all their guys were there. Dane Jackson was a whole bunch
- 41:07of rookies. So it was like here you go, sink or swim,
- 41:08and they swam, which is again awesome for them. And the identification from
- 41:14the scouts and the GMS and or the GM and you know, identifying who
- 41:17they wanted in the draft, and coaches were getting no coached up. But
- 41:20yeah, whether they liked it or not, like that's who they were rolling
- 41:22with. It wasn't a conscious decision to go and be like, you know
- 41:24what we're gonna do this year, all rookies. We're gonna have all these
- 41:28rookies making impacts. And it was like, no, the board kind of
- 41:30fell that way, and then they had to thrust these guys into that role.
- 41:34I appreciate you so much. I appreciated you before this show started,
- 41:37and I appreciate you even more now. So perfect. We let off with
- 41:42not wanting the Bills to add Jordan Addison because of what he adds to this
- 41:45team. Your second point was the Bills adding some reinforcements on that defensive line,
- 41:51which you did not want to see them do. Now let's go to
- 41:52point number three out of five. What a the third thing you do not
- 41:55want to see the Buffalo Bills do in this upcoming draft. Let's go back
- 42:00to the offensive side. Um, okay, let's say land a day three
- 42:04offensive linemen that kind of walks into a starting role immediately, and not because
- 42:08there's no competition, but just because he's that good. So I mean,
- 42:12like the Chiefs, I don't want to bring everything back to the Chiefs,
- 42:14but the Chiefs did do it with Tray Smith. Now that was a medical
- 42:16thing. But getting a day three starting offensive lineman, though, that's a
- 42:21huge deal. Right. It's one thing to draft one in the round one.
- 42:23It's one thing the draft the starting offensive and even in day two.
- 42:27But once you get into day three, if you have a guy that earns
- 42:30that starting role over a competent enough player, right, Like the Bills need
- 42:35help at right Ryan Bates is not a premier starter, right, but if
- 42:38he's your starting right guard, you don't. Well, Bills fans might disagree,
- 42:42but you're not like, oh my god, this entire game is ruined
- 42:45because Ryan Bates is starting it right guard for us. So if they can
- 42:47if you can get an improvement on that in day three from day one,
- 42:52that goes a long way and you're spending no money. You spent a low
- 42:54level of draft capital, and I think bolsterring the offensive line for Josh Allen
- 43:00would help. It doesn't matter what position. I think what right tackle and
- 43:01right guard are the two positions that you guys would be looking to replace.
- 43:05Right Yeah, so either one of those on Day three, specifically Day three.
- 43:08That's not fun to see a big rival go ahead and fill a role
- 43:13immediately. Then very well said I right tackle has been my biggest with where
- 43:17Spencer Brown is. He you know, played eight man football in high school,
- 43:22goes to university in Northern Iowa, then sits out the COVID year and
- 43:27is extremely raw, high ceiling, and then gets thrust into action earlier than
- 43:30he should have his rookie year. Has a bunch of injuries in the off
- 43:32season and into training camp throughout the year last year, and that affects his
- 43:37play and hurts it, you know, his practice time and his wraps and
- 43:38all of these things. But at the end of the day, right now,
- 43:42he's just a very mercurial right tackle, and I think that's a legitimate
- 43:45I don't want to say whole because there's still like bodies there but he's too
- 43:52much of a roller coaster at a premium position for an offense that has a
- 43:57legitimate top quarterback in the league that you want to protect, and you need
- 44:00to give sustainability and consistency too, So right tackle, for me, it
- 44:05is tops on that offensive line. I like the way you've phrased it because
- 44:07if you I mean, granted, you guys got create Humphrey on day two,
- 44:12but if you get these like day two and especially day three, if
- 44:15you can get like a quality starter anywhere in day three, but especially in
- 44:19offensive lineman, like the value that you get from the combination of on field
- 44:23production and play plus contract cost and monetary value, Like good lord, especially
- 44:29with what you're doing with the Chiefs, Like where you've got money spent with
- 44:34Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes and now with like guys like Joan Taylor, and
- 44:38you know where your money is sinked is sunk in. You've got this really
- 44:42good offensive line and you've got to really cost controlled effective center and create Humphrey
- 44:45and a tremendously cost controlled effective garden. Tray Smith, who I remember yelling
- 44:51Creed Humphrey was the big one. But I wanted Tray Smith so bad.
- 44:52And then it was what was the heart? The heart issue right that drove
- 44:58yes, and I was like, oh okay, like that's understandable. And
- 45:02he just kept falling. And remember when the Chiefs got him. I just
- 45:06remember being like, he's gonna end up being sweet because that's the world that
- 45:08I live in. And look what you got, like on the interior,
- 45:12if you can get especially for I like the way you phrased it, because
- 45:15it's not just you know, getting a solid starter on the offensive line or
- 45:19at like right tackle, Like if you get it on day three, that
- 45:22also means you used your day one and your day two picks in other areas
- 45:27and now you've got positional value at other spots. There's less opportunity costs that
- 45:30you've used. Somebody who I had tabbed early. I like Nick Saldaveri from
- 45:36Old Dominion, but now it seems like he's creeping up into the day two
- 45:39range. Like say, I like Tyler Steen from Alabama, though maybe he's
- 45:44more he's more guard tackle flex, but now he seems like he's creeping up
- 45:47into day two. There's I think there's still maybe like Carter Warren from pitt
- 45:52Or McFadden from Clemston will offer you from tackle ability, but then it's guards
- 45:55as well. Like but yeah, that that's very well said. I like
- 45:59the specificity that day three because again, like you're you're getting what the Chiefs
- 46:04get. Again, I don't want to keep using the chiefs S downboard just
- 46:06because it's the low hanging fruit here. Like if you have competent starters or
- 46:09plus starters on your offensive line that you got on day three, you're paying
- 46:15like basically five bucks, Like you're paying nothing for quality starters for at least
- 46:20four years, and then that allows you to put your money into other areas.
- 46:24And you nailed it because like, if this happens on day three,
- 46:27you statman, that means you probably spent some of the earlier round picks on
- 46:30other positions, right, and hitting on a day of any position on day
- 46:35three is gonna be helpful. But offensive linemen are playing one hundred percent of
- 46:38the snaps. If you're starting, this guy is gonna be on the field
- 46:40every single play, and all you invested is a fifth round pick of whatever,
- 46:45a fourth round pick whatever it may be, that just goes such a
- 46:47long way, and you don't think you need studs on the offensive line.
- 46:52You just need solid competent players if you have enough of them next to each
- 46:57other on the offensive line. It can be with Josh Allen or I'm a
- 46:59Home or a good quarterback. It can be absolutely fine and you can roll.
- 47:02And I love your list of Day three tackles and linemen there. I
- 47:07think I would have named every single one of those guys. Is like guys
- 47:09that in that range that would I would really not like to see the Bills
- 47:13get um Nick Selderberry has been like a my guy for a while and it's
- 47:17been awesome, but also stinks to see him, Like I don't even know
- 47:20if the Chiefs would have a chance to draft him at ninety five, Like
- 47:22even at ninety five, I think he might be pretty gones like that.
- 47:25That's been not fun being on him pretty early and then just seeing him climb
- 47:29climb, client, but it didn't be good for him. Good for the
- 47:30good good field, the dominion guy, good for him, Yeah, bead
- 47:32for us. Jonathan Mingo was my guy for that. Like going into the
- 47:37Senior Bowl week, I was like, you know what, this is a
- 47:39dude who I'd really like in the fourth round, Like I think you could
- 47:43do some stuff with him the size and the frame and if his route running
- 47:45can be you know, coached up enough because he comes from home, miss,
- 47:47which is so RPO based, YadA, YadA. And now here we
- 47:51are like two days before the draft, and everybody's like, could Jonathan Mingo
- 47:52go in the first round? And I'm like, are you kidding me?
- 47:55Like is that where we are right now? That he's climbed up so much?
- 47:58And seemed like I remember doing mocked drafts in granted not that mock drafts
- 48:01matter, but like killing time doing mock drafts in March or beginning of April,
- 48:05and I was always getting Salada varyat like pick one thirty seven for the
- 48:07Bills, And now it's like, nope, he's gone by like pick ninety
- 48:10two, and I'm like, oh, like this sucks now, like the
- 48:14way it just changes. Um yeah, it's it's ruins. No, it's
- 48:20ruining our phone. But again, good for them, I guess for like
- 48:22their lives and making more money if they want to be selfish. But whatever,
- 48:24if they want that, right, but I mean who wants that?
- 48:28Does money really matter? Does does money and like more success matter for anything?
- 48:35No, like it's all nebulous ever, not in anything. All right,
- 48:39So we're first, we're through the first three, bringing into the home
- 48:43stretch of the last two. So the fourth ranked piece in terms of what
- 48:47you do not want to see the Buffalo Bills do. If you are an
- 48:52opponent of the Buffalo Bills, what do you got? So it's getting a
- 48:58little bit hard now to find stuff that I desperately don't want to see the
- 49:00Bills doing. That's not because you know of humors or anything like that.
- 49:04It's just like, I think those first three moves would make the Bill so
- 49:07much better that it would actively be like this is scary. Now these last
- 49:10two are a little bit more specific, and this would just be I think
- 49:14this would be really cool and if it works out perfectly, this would be
- 49:17really bad. So getting and it doesn't have to be round one, but
- 49:22hitting on a linebacker that has a Fred Warner esque impact, right, And
- 49:27I'm not even attempt to come up with the player. And Matt Milano's great.
- 49:30Mattmilano is a great linebacker. There's one linebacker in the NFL that when
- 49:34the Chiefs go to play, I'm like, please will find him every single
- 49:37time, every single play, he's the only guy that matters, and that's
- 49:40that's Fred Warner when you play the forty nine ers just having that guy,
- 49:44And I think there's a couple of the linebackers that have gotten a little bit
- 49:46closer to him lately. But I still don't think anyone impacts what or dictates
- 49:52what an offense can do quite the way he does. But if, for
- 49:54whatever reason, if that's Drew Sanders, all of a sudden, you can
- 49:58coach him up to have those leve of instincts. If Diane Henley out of
- 50:01Washington State, who played wide receiver, shows that same kind of feel,
- 50:06it's not as big, but shows that same kind of feel and coverage,
- 50:08and all of a sudden, that guy ends up on the Bills. Then
- 50:10essentially every year when the Chiefs and Bills play, I have to worry about
- 50:15that guy in the middle of the field taking away whatever the Chiefs are trying
- 50:19to do, like Fred Warner frequently does for the Niners. What was so
- 50:22you know that that obviously ties into a movie that we saw on free agency
- 50:25with the Bills losing Tremaine Edmonds. What were your thoughts on you know,
- 50:30I think I don't think we ever really hit on him specifically in you know,
- 50:36doing Bills Chiefs previews. What was your thought of Tremaine Edmonds as a
- 50:38player in this Bills defense, you know, going into every Bills Chiefs week
- 50:42and there were several of these past couple of years. Was he somebody that
- 50:46you thought of like, this guy's an impact player or this guy makes plays.
- 50:50Was he somebody to kind of register it on your radar when you looked
- 50:52at the Bills defense or did you just kind of think he was just a
- 50:54functional piece in the Bills defense. It's so hard what I watch the Bills
- 51:00defense leading up to the game. He's a very functional piece, and I
- 51:02think he played a very pivotal role and he did make plays like that.
- 51:05I will not say that he definitely made plays, but for the Chiefs specifically,
- 51:08I never felt his impact against the Chiefs. I never I never felt
- 51:14Edmunds impact when playing against the Chiefs. That doesn't mean he was bad,
- 51:16It's just the way the Chiefs play football. I feel like they put him
- 51:21in conflict a lot, and I don't know if that was his strength,
- 51:23was handling that kind of conflict. And that's I mean, that's the Andy
- 51:25Reid special, Right, He's gonna pick a couple of guys, He's gonna
- 51:29put them in conflict over and over and over again, and you're gonna be
- 51:32wrong. It's just how do you adapt to that? And I don't know
- 51:36if I ever felt like he was adapting to a way that it even became
- 51:38a second thought to the Chiefs. I think they were completely fine with however
- 51:43he reacted. They were going to get what they wanted. But again,
- 51:45I don't mean that he was bad by any stretch. It's just I don't
- 51:49think the Chiefs were a good matchup for him, and the iteration of the
- 51:52Bills defense his favorite. For my favorite play of his versus the Chiefs,
- 51:57I don't remember what game it was, but it's it's gonna seem like so
- 52:00minor or some mini school because it wasn't a splash play. It wasn't this
- 52:02huge impact play. Nicole Hardman ran a post as like the number three receiver,
- 52:07and Icole Hardman is like fast as hell, and he ran this post
- 52:10like twenty yards down field, was like splitting the safeties and Edmonds carried him
- 52:15all the way downfield, and I was just like, that's impressive as hell
- 52:17that you just ran with just four or three wide receiver Like that was always
- 52:22That's one of these plays that anytime anyone was like, well he can't cover
- 52:24him, like he just they were they were playing quarters like they were matching,
- 52:28and he picked up Kole Hardman and carried him like and Mahomes looks at
- 52:31it and it's like, na, let me go somewhere else. I'm like,
- 52:35you got Mahomes to look off a four or three wide receiver against the
- 52:38linebacker Like That's always this play that sticks in my mind, and you know,
- 52:44it's funny now looking at that linebacker spot like Edmond. Edmond showed up
- 52:46bigger this year in terms of making like box score plays and splash plays and
- 52:51all these you know, at having all these flash moments. But my biggest
- 52:54thing with him is I always thought he was just this large deterrent in the
- 52:59middle of field, like his athleticism, his size, his frame, like
- 53:02he just he squeezed windows and he made things tough in the middle of the
- 53:07field and the Bills as each year as he progressed in his career, like
- 53:10from an interior, from an interior, like a middle of the field pass
- 53:13coverage perspective. They went from like nineteenth and DV away to second in DV
- 53:16way to first and DV away and granted the safeties with hide employer player role
- 53:21in that as well. But he was such a deterrent and kind of closing
- 53:23off the middle of the field to so many teams, and he played such
- 53:28an important role in setting and allowing the Bills defense to play the coverages that
- 53:34they do, both in terms of the frequency and the variations that they played
- 53:37and not having him think like limits what they do and linebacker is just that's
- 53:43another like the linebacker sucked this year, no disrespect. These guys are obviously
- 53:46like really good football players, like they're going to go to the NFL,
- 53:49YadA, YadA. But this is not that this is not the year to
- 53:51need a linebacker, like especially for the kind of linebacker the Bills need.
- 53:54But to your point, yeah, I mean, if you can Matt Malanas
- 53:58example, they took Matt Malana on the fifth and now he's an All Pro
- 54:00linebacker, Like just what you can get the juice you can get out of
- 54:04that spot, especially you know, given the need that they have for it.
- 54:07Very fair. Now, yeah, and again no, I agree with
- 54:10what you're saying, Like when I watched him back, It's like I always
- 54:13thought that Edmonds got a little bit too much flak for not making the splashy
- 54:19plays that you would pick out like highlights and stuff. But it seemed like
- 54:21he was a pivotal part of what they tried to do on defense. The
- 54:24issue came when you went up against really good teams. Not even Justice,
- 54:28He's just really good teams that aren't going to be They're not going to be
- 54:30afraid of the middle of the field just because Churt main Edmonds there. They're
- 54:34not going to be afraid to find ways to attack him. So now he
- 54:37has to actively make those plays. And that's where I thought against the Chiefs
- 54:42specifically, he just was a lot more hit or miss, with a lot
- 54:45more miss than hit in those situations. That again, not that he was
- 54:47bad, not that he had a negative impact on the defense, just I
- 54:51think the Chiefs were one of the teams willing to challenge the space that he
- 54:54was occupying and deterring other people, and they were making the Chiefs. You
- 54:59watched them play the forty nine Ers. They mostly avoid Fred Warner, but
- 55:01they'll still challenge him too, right, And I think, like I said,
- 55:04I already think he's kind of the best line He's the only linebacker that
- 55:07like registers on my radar really and like they'll still try to find ways to
- 55:10try to attack him. So that's not a knock on Advans, it's just
- 55:14that's what I noticed was any time that she's wanted to put him in conflict
- 55:17or go after him, they seemed to have success. But watching other teams,
- 55:22they didn't really try or have that same kind of success. I think
- 55:24it's a fair point, and especially you know, given I mean, if
- 55:27you've got Mahomes and Read and you're still challenging from time to time the first
- 55:30and I'm the same boat, like the best offball linebacker in football, and
- 55:34Fred Warner like everybody else, is going to be a tier or two below
- 55:37him. So if they're still willing to attack the top tier guy, they're
- 55:40probably going to be able to one put into conflict the lower tier guys and
- 55:45probably attack the hell out of him as well. So that's a fair point.
- 55:47Man, We're gonna bring him home now. The fifth perfect thing,
- 55:52I know, right, you know, the last piece, the Kodagra.
- 55:54I think that yep, that's the right terminology, a musing here or whatever.
- 55:58How to make everybody real mad here at this one. Oh and now
- 56:00I'm excited. So what do you got for your last one? Here?
- 56:04For the Buffalo Bill's anti wishless in terms of what you do not want to
- 56:07see them do if you were a Buffalo Bill's a boy, This one takes
- 56:09buy in from the top down right. This is more of a long play.
- 56:13But this is it be Jean Robinson falls and the Bills take him,
- 56:16and then and then the Bills realize that maybe running Josh Allen isn't the move
- 56:22they decide to. I don't know, maybe try to run the football using
- 56:25a really really good running back that can make stuff happen to prolong, not
- 56:30just Josh Allen's career, but how effective he is throughout the whole season.
- 56:32And Josh Allen I already said it once. I love how he just throws
- 56:37the ball deeper than deep coverage. I think that's great. You know how
- 56:38that works really well off play action or when you set it up by running
- 56:43the ball really well. So go ahead and get if he's there, one
- 56:46of the better running back prospects in the past decade, slap him in there
- 56:51and make it work. Figure it out. Maybe you need another next year's
- 56:53draft to get the offensive lineman. You need to transition your style of offense.
- 56:59I don't think it's a knock whatsoever to change this to a little bit
- 57:02more of a running team than what they currently are running with a running back
- 57:07team than they currently are, and I actually think it would go a long
- 57:09way with the Bill set of offense. This has been such a powder heg
- 57:15of a conversation with anything for Beijon, and it's all tied of the positional
- 57:20value for people. I'm so I'm in the boat. If he's there at
- 57:23twenty seven, well one, for me, he's one of the blue chip
- 57:27elite dudes in this draft class, and there's not many, And I think
- 57:30he would be a blue chip elite prospect in almost any draft class that you
- 57:34put him in, Like he's that good. The only way that he's going
- 57:37to be more of a generational or elite talent is if he ran like a
- 57:40four four one instead of a four four six. Like every he ticks like
- 57:44every single box in every way, And if he's there at twenty seven,
- 57:50flat out, there's not going to be another player like a better football player
- 57:53at twenty seven. If he's there, then Bijon Robinson. If he's there,
- 57:57he is the best football player on the board. And positional value,
- 58:01I said it last week's show, Like that's a whole other conversation if you
- 58:05don't believe running back should in the first round, and positional value and resource
- 58:07allocation, so on and so forth and all these things. But at the
- 58:10end of the day, you're still adding like a truly elite talent to your
- 58:16offense. Is it a running back? Yes? Do you necessarily not want
- 58:20to use that in the first round? Maybe, But he's elite And it's
- 58:22not just because this draft class is weaker, like he would be elite in
- 58:25any class. And I'm in a similar boat, like I've been clamoring this
- 58:30for the past couple of years. I know it's a past first league,
- 58:31but you need to be able to run the ball, like you need that
- 58:35quality of your offensive line or a running back that's good enough to elevate the
- 58:37old line. And you know, here's a good example, right, what
- 58:40happened If Patrick Mahomes goes down against the Jacksonville Jaguars, they put in Chad
- 58:46Henny, what do they do when they come out in the second half,
- 58:49they run the ball down the Jags throat. What happens in the Super Bowl
- 58:52when Mahomes dings up his ankle a little bit and they come out to start
- 58:54the second half, they run the ball down the Eagle's throat with that offensive
- 58:59line in Isaiah Checko like, you need that pivot disc goes to my rock
- 59:02paper scissors piece, right, you need to be able. What happens if
- 59:06you're playing a team that has stellar pass defense but they're weak against the run.
- 59:09Cool, let's pivot and run the ball. What happens if you're playing
- 59:13in a shitty weather game like you could everywhere in the AFC Buffalo, Kansas
- 59:17City, Cincinnati, Baltimore, all the majority of the good teams in the
- 59:22a f C. Besides maybe even like Miami. If you're going to Miami,
- 59:25like everyone's going to have bad weather in the playoffs, you know what
- 59:28works in bad weather? Run the football. And then on top of it,
- 59:31you've got this elite player. That's music to my ears. I think
- 59:36it's very funny tying in with that. What is your overall thought on I
- 59:40know at twenty seven? For me, I feel like the positional value conversations
- 59:44should take a bit of a back seat because you're getting real close to the
- 59:47second round right there, you're at pick twenty seven. If there's an elite
- 59:51due and needs a running back, cool take them. But what is your
- 59:53overall thoughts with taking a running back in the first round in today's NFL given
- 59:58the positional value questions surround it? For someone like be Jean Robinson, once
- 1:00:02you hit pick like twelve, I think the way the rookie pay scale breaks
- 1:00:07out, he's now no longer the highest paid running back. He's in like
- 1:00:09the top five, top seven or something like that. But guess what,
- 1:00:13he's also on the top five to seven running backs in the NFL. I
- 1:00:15think day one like, I think he's that good. So at pick twenty
- 1:00:19seven, I no qualms. I want to push back. What's the Chiefs
- 1:00:22just drafted Clader de Zilaire at the end of round one a couple of years
- 1:00:25ago. Not a great pick. It turned out even worse than we thought.
- 1:00:29But Clider and Zilaire is not anywhere close to the prospect that Bejean Robinson
- 1:00:34is. And even then, plenty of people, not just Chiefs fans,
- 1:00:37but plenty of people were trying to spend it that in that offense, he'll
- 1:00:39be fine. They were making you were having to make the argument where how
- 1:00:44the situation was perfect. Vjean Robinson situation is perfect for thirty two teams.
- 1:00:47Yeah, that's how good he's perfect for thirty two teams. And I think
- 1:00:51the Bills specifically are one team where Josh Allen is great. I think he's
- 1:00:55one of these really good quarter one of these elite quarterbacks that maybe would benefit
- 1:01:00a little bit more from having the run the ball and create space for him
- 1:01:04to launch the football. I mean, like he has the best deep ball
- 1:01:07or he is the most effective with the deep ball right in the NFL.
- 1:01:10Right now, create that space by running the ball more. Now, the
- 1:01:14team has to buy in. You can't draft Bejan Robinson. It's still only
- 1:01:15give them twelve carries and a game over, like you know, for four
- 1:01:19straight weeks. You can't do it. The team has to buy in.
- 1:01:22But I you know, can miss me with running back value stuff once you
- 1:01:25start getting into the twenties, especially for a player like Bjean Robinson, and
- 1:01:30I would go as high as like twelve for him. Dude, he just
- 1:01:32especially in today's NFL where I mean the Chiefs have seen it and the Bills
- 1:01:37have seen it. Oh you've got this sick quarterback in this great passing game.
- 1:01:40Cool, we're gonna play two high coverages with light boxes. You know
- 1:01:44what gets teams out of two high coverages and light boxes when you have a
- 1:01:46running game that makes them go crap, we gotta walk a safety down like
- 1:01:51or you know what, we gotta we gotta pull our nickel guy. We
- 1:01:52gotta go more base and maybe respect this run a little bit like originally they
- 1:01:57won't, and it just matters when you have a running back they can make
- 1:02:00them pay. There's a big difference between just breaking off a bunch of four
- 1:02:02yard runs like, yeah, it's effective, but just running the ball for
- 1:02:06four yards all the way down the field eventually, you know that margin of
- 1:02:08air we talked about the beginning catches up and you're gonna have a blown up
- 1:02:12play. Now, your four yard runs don't matter. But with Bejean Robinson,
- 1:02:15those four yard runs are six seven yards. But he's more likely to
- 1:02:17break one than he is to get one blown ups, Like, there's such
- 1:02:22a big gap there. So you want to play too high or do you
- 1:02:23want to stop be Jean Robinson. It's like, I think it's incredibly scary,
- 1:02:28Like I think that's a terrifying thing. I'm also not one hundred percent
- 1:02:31sure that the Bills would buy in on the run game based on what we've
- 1:02:34seen so far. So that's why it was at five and not number one.
- 1:02:37So if you knew the Bills would buy into the running game more,
- 1:02:43that would be your number one. Yeah, that would jump to number one.
- 1:02:45And if he's there and that happened, like, yeah, that would
- 1:02:49jump to number one. I don't know how you defend them, right,
- 1:02:51Like Patrick mahomes the best quarterback in the league, but he does not throw
- 1:02:55the ball downfield the way Josh Allen does not. He does not in the
- 1:02:59games throw it down the field as far as accurately, as efficiently as Josh
- 1:03:02Allen. So if you're gonna make teams now have to decide between defending the
- 1:03:06line of scrimmage or defending deep, you're just giving space to one of those
- 1:03:09two things. And if team, if the Bills will buy into that run
- 1:03:13game, that's gonna be difficult. That's gonna be really difficult to stop.
- 1:03:17This isn't like the Bengals. If the Bengals got Bejean Robinson still be good.
- 1:03:22But Joe Burrow for a lot of the times when he's not throwing just
- 1:03:24go balls, he's trying to eat the ball short over the middle of the
- 1:03:27field. I still think it creates as much stretch as it would for the
- 1:03:30Bills. So yeah, that would jump to one. Bijean just too.
- 1:03:34He takes those two and like those runs that are blocked for two or four,
- 1:03:37he turns them into like five or eight, or can turn those ten
- 1:03:40yard runs into fifteen or twenty yard runs. And you know, even just
- 1:03:45tying it into the Chiefs. A team that I always thought had a really
- 1:03:50good blueprint for beating the Chiefs was the Baltimore Ravens because their running attack is
- 1:03:54a unicorn. But also not only can you grind out yards and at that
- 1:03:59time run on the Chiefs, but what are you doing when you're running the
- 1:04:01ball. You're keeping the ball away from Patrick Mahomes and you're keeping that Chiefs
- 1:04:04offense off the field. So now, if you have a solid ground game
- 1:04:09led by a superstar running back in Bijean Robinson, with an offense that has
- 1:04:14this tremendous downfield thrower and Josh Allen this explosive passing offense, and now you
- 1:04:17also have the ability to grind teams and run on him and make them pay
- 1:04:21for giving you light boxers, to make them make them pay for showing two
- 1:04:26high looks or nickel coverages or someone and so forth. With a guy that
- 1:04:29can elevate an offensive line and make you pay upfront. Yeah, that's a
- 1:04:32really dangerous potential concoction for who. I like that. I like where your
- 1:04:38heads? That one more question for you and then we'll get you out.
- 1:04:40Yeah. The DeAndre Hopkins conversation where because he's been also rumored to the Chiefs
- 1:04:45as well. How much of a how much of a pendulum swinger do you
- 1:04:48think he is? Like if he goes to the Chiefs, if he goes
- 1:04:51to the Bills, like how much? How much does he change the AFC
- 1:04:56landscape? If he were to go to the Chiefs, how much further do
- 1:04:59you think he separates them from the rest of the pack. And if he
- 1:05:01were to go to the Bills, what do you think he does for the
- 1:05:04Bills in the AFC landscape? I mean, I think he fills a role
- 1:05:09that both teams are kind of I think looking for right. I mean,
- 1:05:12you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Bills fans or
- 1:05:14the Bills kind of want a second pass catcher that's a little bit more reliable.
- 1:05:17Right the Gay Davis just wasn't that guy. So if you need somebody
- 1:05:20else that can be paired with Stefan Diggs to get open and make plays when
- 1:05:24Diggs isn't getting it done, the Chiefs have the same thing, but with
- 1:05:27Travis Kelsey and then nobody else. Right, So I think both of these
- 1:05:30two teams vying for DeAndre Hopkins makes a ton of sense because he immediately fills
- 1:05:34one of their bigger roles on offense for both sides. I don't want to
- 1:05:39say like it's flipping what I think of either one of these two teams by
- 1:05:42itself, but it certainly closes the gap. You know, however you want
- 1:05:45to go about it, or if you want to have the Chiefs ahead or
- 1:05:48the Bills ahead, who that team would go a little bit more ahead.
- 1:05:50I don't know if it would be enough to flip them right, Like I'm
- 1:05:55being very all right here, it is I think the Chiefs the best team
- 1:05:58in the in the AFC. I think the Bills are second right now right,
- 1:06:00and people give me mad. I know Bills fans are probably mad at
- 1:06:03me about this, but that's where I don't think Bills fans can beat can
- 1:06:06be mad like I'm I'm a wrestling guy, Rich Flare, you know,
- 1:06:10to be the man, you gotta beat the man like each are on top.
- 1:06:12That is fair, That's that's very fair. I don't want to be
- 1:06:14ye. I was trying to beat around the bush, but now we're going
- 1:06:15to go straight into this way. So the Chiefs are one, Bills are
- 1:06:17two. If the Bills get DeAndre Hopkins, I don't think it makes them
- 1:06:23number one, but it gets them closer. It now becomes like we can
- 1:06:26start having this conversation of Okay, how did the Chiefs go about beating the
- 1:06:30Bills. Now now it's a little bit more difficult for the Chiefs to beat
- 1:06:32the Bills because now you have to deal with a DeAndre Hopkins. And conversely,
- 1:06:36if the Chiefs get them, gets a lot harder I think for the
- 1:06:39Bills to beat the Chiefs, because now how are you gonna stop Hopkins and
- 1:06:43Travis Kelcey every essentially third down, one of those two guys is gonna have
- 1:06:45a one on one matchup. Mahomes will be able to get them to football.
- 1:06:49And then the kicker to this is I don't know what DeAndre Hopkins is
- 1:06:54going for, but looking at the trade market, it can't be that much.
- 1:06:56Like nobody's trading anything for these veterans. So either team would still have
- 1:07:00all their Day one and Day two picks to address other quote unquote needs or
- 1:07:04just ad raw talent. Like I think that's even where the biggest boon is
- 1:07:08is the Bills don't have to take Addison or Zay Flowers or whatever wide receiver.
- 1:07:13They solve that issue now it can be all about the or vice versa
- 1:07:16with the Chiefs. So I think getting nuke matters more for these two teams
- 1:07:20than anybody else, just because they're competing with one another. Very well said
- 1:07:26He's I really think he gets traded this week. I just don't know where,
- 1:07:30into who and for and for how much. I think a lot of
- 1:07:32it's going to depend on. There's all the money stuff, like of how
- 1:07:34much Arizona is willing to eat or how much they're willing or what they really
- 1:07:40want like Arizona such an owner does not like to spend money. No,
- 1:07:44and they're just so I hate like ragging on teams or dumping on teams.
- 1:07:47But Arizona is such a dumpster fire of an organization right now, like from
- 1:07:53decision making and talent and player evaluation and draft picks selections, and now Buddha
- 1:07:58Baker wants out and you're gonna lose hot potentially, like and then they come
- 1:08:01up with these stupid uniforms. It looked just like the old uniforms, like
- 1:08:04they didn't even change anything, like and they made this big announcement it's the
- 1:08:08same uniform. It pissed me off so much. It was so dumb.
- 1:08:12Kyler's requesting draft picks publicly and we're going that place is and your head coach
- 1:08:17is lying about things that never happened. Yeah, but the whole like oh
- 1:08:20yeah, they came to me and they were like, oh, we want
- 1:08:23you fired. And he was like, oh, I'm leading in the league
- 1:08:25by thirty sacks. It's like you were never doing any of that. Yeah,
- 1:08:28like that that place, that place is wild right now. And I
- 1:08:31think people are expecting Arizona to eat some money, and I think that's reasonable
- 1:08:35to expect, But I don't think that they are going to to eat.
- 1:08:41They would spend more cash trading him and having eat salary than just cutting him
- 1:08:44post tune first, Like that would cost a team more money. So are
- 1:08:47you sitting there it's bidwell going to sit there and say, hey, I'd
- 1:08:50rather gain a fifth round pick but spend more cash. Or is he just
- 1:08:55gonna be like, nah, I'll gain nothing and save my cash. And
- 1:08:57like his history says he's going to keep his over gain that fifth round pick.
- 1:09:00That's just what he does. And they're just like no point intended,
- 1:09:03like a wild card with what they do in because they're because of ownership,
- 1:09:10because of the mismanagement. And then you've got a new coaching staff in there
- 1:09:14as well, so that adds more variables to it. Like it just muddies
- 1:09:16the whole waters. And but I really do think he gets he gets dealt
- 1:09:20I don't know to who or or for what at this point, I don't
- 1:09:26know. I've seen some combo of like I don't know, they eat some
- 1:09:29money and some team gives like a fourth or like a third and a fifth
- 1:09:32or like or maybe they eat a ton of the money and it's like,
- 1:09:35Okay, give us a second, like, I don't. I think that's
- 1:09:38from the lower end of possibilities. But man, it's a name that continues
- 1:09:43to circulate amongst the Bills fan bases. And then and then of course Hopkins
- 1:09:46is stoking those flames with that video last week with the emoji responses and just
- 1:09:51I'm like, dude, like you you're playing the game so well right now,
- 1:09:55like you know what you're doing. To his credit, he's been open
- 1:09:58like he can routinely says it's not about getting more money or money. He
- 1:10:00just wants to play for a contender. And you know, whether it's his
- 1:10:04agent, whether it's him, whether it's whoever. They have found a way
- 1:10:08to pit two contenders that are rivals, and the Chiefs and the Bills directly,
- 1:10:12and even the Ravens a little bit earlier on. But like they found
- 1:10:15a way to pit teams that were all kind of rivals against each other into
- 1:10:18the social media. I guess, Frenzy, I have no idea what the
- 1:10:21actual teams they go. If I know the Chiefs, the Chiefs have a
- 1:10:25very hard line drawn in the sand, and they will not cross it no
- 1:10:28matter what you try to push them. Like Brett Veach has gotten pretty good
- 1:10:30at that. He'll find his price. Maybe it's an overpay, maybe it's
- 1:10:33way under. And like they've missed out on free agents or deals because they
- 1:10:38just won't budge. Like he's got his hard line in the sand that he's
- 1:10:41if they're interested, he's already made. But they Nuke has done a good
- 1:10:45job getting two very rival fan bases very riled up. Yeah, you can
- 1:10:48you imagine like the Bills and Chiefs organizations like in their war rooms being like
- 1:10:53did you guys see that, like that that social media post from that you
- 1:10:57saw that Instagram thing from DeAndre Hopkins. He gave us a smirk and like
- 1:11:00a positive emoji, like I think he wants to come here, like let's
- 1:11:02let's chase this. And the Bills are Bills are similar to the Chiefs in
- 1:11:05that regard, like Brandon Bean is very much like we like you. Here's
- 1:11:10what we're willing to offer if you don't want it. Cool even and this
- 1:11:13is with in house free agents as well, like here's what we're offering you.
- 1:11:15If you think you can do better, go test the open market and
- 1:11:18then come back to us and let us know. It's the same thing with
- 1:11:19incoming free agents, Like, here's what we're willing to give you if you
- 1:11:23don't want it, cool, good luck and godspeed if you do come aboard.
- 1:11:26We're not budget So that reminded me. I did want to ask you
- 1:11:29a quick question before done. It's being of social media stuff. Last year
- 1:11:32it kind of went viral for Chiefs fans the Bills war room when the Chiefs
- 1:11:35traded up for Trim mcduffey and how somber the war room kind of look,
- 1:11:40do you guys as Bills fans think the Bills were upset that the Chiefs jumped
- 1:11:44up for a Trent mcduffy at the cornerback position. The Bills quickly thereafter traded
- 1:11:48up and grabbed Kiera Elam So like, what was what's Bills fans read on
- 1:11:51that whole situation? So this is actually super funny. I talked about this
- 1:11:56on our draft show last year and throughout the off season. Brandon ban Oh,
- 1:12:00I forget exactly what he said, but Bean doesn't really like for guys
- 1:12:04that aren't Bills players. He doesn't really name drop anyone in any way for
- 1:12:09anything. And after the post, after the night one presser, he's talking
- 1:12:13about you know why they traded up for Kyer Elam and YadA yadda, and
- 1:12:15he mentions mcduffy, and I forget the exact verbiage, but he mentioned it
- 1:12:19in a way that I immediately was like, they wanted Trent mcduffey. And
- 1:12:25I also think because you guys traded up for mcduffey, I think that kind
- 1:12:29of forced them a little bit to be like, all right, cool,
- 1:12:30and now we can't take any chances and we have to go get Kyer Relam.
- 1:12:33I think they were going to go after Trent mcduffye. I know Elam
- 1:12:38from a size and frame and skill perspective fits everything for the Buffalo Bills,
- 1:12:45right. I think the same can be said in some aspects for Trem mcduffy,
- 1:12:47And for me, Trem mcduffy was my corner three last year and I
- 1:12:50loved him. And the only reason he wasn't corner one or corner two was
- 1:12:54because you had Derek Stingley and Sauce Gardner, who were two like amazing corner
- 1:12:58prospects. I thought McDuffie was awesome. I was literally shouting from the rooftops
- 1:13:02all offseason that I wanted Trim mcduffe for the Bills, and then of course,
- 1:13:05of course the freaking Chiefs jump up and take him, and I'll not
- 1:13:11even on the radar. The Chiefs traded up and we're sitting there live and
- 1:13:14we're all thinking Jermaine Johnson kier Elan was even a thought because he fits what
- 1:13:17the Chiefs had done in the past, right, and so like it was
- 1:13:21just really nobody had a Trim mcduffe even remotely on their mind. And then
- 1:13:25they take Trim McDuffie and it's just like okay, and then everyone's excited.
- 1:13:28Then you hear Brett Beach talk and it's like, hey, we didn't think
- 1:13:30he had any chance to be there, so we didn't plan on this,
- 1:13:32and then we made the move. But which is good. It's just that
- 1:13:35video of the Bill's war room when that while that was happening, Chiefs fans
- 1:13:39have done decided the same thing that you were kind of alluding at, that
- 1:13:42the Bills might have wanted him, because that's what it looks like when you
- 1:13:45see the video, and I obviously have no information or inside info there,
- 1:13:48It just it looked like there was a little bit of a surprise and a
- 1:13:51little bit of a disappointment when that happened. So you know, hey,
- 1:13:55here's the hoping that maybe the Chiefs pulled out off again. You can't.
- 1:14:00I'm in as a heel and you ended as a heel. And you know
- 1:14:04what, I respect. I was gonna trying to think of the line,
- 1:14:08what's the whole like, uh, like I don't agree with like here's what
- 1:14:11you say, but I'll defend of the death. You're right to say it.
- 1:14:13Whatever that's stupid line is. Yeah, but you you man, well
- 1:14:16played, well played, way to bring it all the full circle. You
- 1:14:19as as I anticipated, as I hoped. We're a tremendous guest in every
- 1:14:25which way, shape and form tonight. Yeah, you're You're a good dude.
- 1:14:29I and you know you know your ship when it comes to ball.
- 1:14:30I love having you on every single time. And you know, like you
- 1:14:33mentioned offline and then on the show and when we're DM in last week,
- 1:14:39you are enthralled with draft coverage for the Kansas City Chiefs just regularly at this
- 1:14:44time of year, but even more so because the draft is in Kansas City
- 1:14:46this year, so things are dialed up even further. Like, I know
- 1:14:49you had some work earlier tonight, so one, I appreciate you as always.
- 1:14:54Two, I appreciate you taking time it's such a busy time to join
- 1:14:57me and break down this what I thought a fun topic and talk draft and
- 1:15:00talk ball and talk this rivalry a bit. Um and three, just in
- 1:15:04case people don't know, let them know who you are, where they can
- 1:15:08find you, what you do, plug your stuff. The floor is yours.
- 1:15:11I still hate you, but um, well then that's fair. That's
- 1:15:15all fair. Uh. You know you can follow me on Twitter at Mattie
- 1:15:17Underscore CASEYSN. I work for Casey Sports Network. We cover all Kansas City
- 1:15:24based sports. I mostly cover football. Occasionly we'll talk about some college ball.
- 1:15:28Like it said here, I love college I love the draft. I
- 1:15:30spend a lot. I spend almost three hundred and fifty days of a year
- 1:15:33talking about the upcoming draft. So like, I'll take a couple of days
- 1:15:35off and come back. But you can find all the stuff and Casey Sports
- 1:15:39Network you Casey Sports Network dot com, Casey sports or CASEYSN dot substack dot
- 1:15:45com. Evin, She'll remember all my links. It's just all about Kansas
- 1:15:47City sports. If you ever need to know anything about the Chiefs, check
- 1:15:50out the YouTube channel if you want to have a little bit of fun,
- 1:15:54right if you want to, you know, peak a peek at what the
- 1:15:56Chiefs are doing in the draft round where the Chiefs come on the clock.
- 1:15:59If you go to the caseys and YouTube page, it's just Casey Sports Network
- 1:16:01on YouTube. We'll be live covering the entire draft top to bottom. It's
- 1:16:04obviously going to be chief centric, but you'll see our live reactions and what
- 1:16:09the Chiefs did. If it's a good pick, a bad pick, we'll
- 1:16:11tell you about it. I don't hold back if I think the Chiefs make
- 1:16:14a bad pick, so you can go back to your bills fans say,
- 1:16:15hey, the Chiefs guys think they made a terrible pick, so come check
- 1:16:18us out. As the Chiefs are picking, you'll get you know, our
- 1:16:20general thoughts on that. And as always, man, I appreciate you for
- 1:16:25asking me having me on. This is one of the few podcasts I make
- 1:16:28sure I have a chance to come on. No. I love hanging out,
- 1:16:30I love talking and this was I like this topic a lot. This
- 1:16:32is a lot a fun way to talk about the draft that I have not
- 1:16:35done yet this year, which is nice. Thank you. Why I'm doing
- 1:16:39so I've got this show and then I've got the Film Room show on Wednesdays
- 1:16:43at seven, and we're doing a wish List episode tomorrow, and all of
- 1:16:45a sudden, you just click with me. Last week I was like,
- 1:16:47oh, an anti wish List episode would be fun, but I was just
- 1:16:50going to do it from like, guys, I don't want to see the
- 1:16:54Bills take or things. And I was like, well, what if we
- 1:16:56went further and made it like, you know, an enemy type of thing
- 1:16:58or opponent type of thing. And I was like, chiefs and you were
- 1:17:00the first person I thought of. I've said it before when you've been on
- 1:17:03the show, and I'll say it again for the people and here, like
- 1:17:05I think it's whether you're just a Bills fan or football fan in general,
- 1:17:09but even if you're a Bills fan, you always want to stay up on
- 1:17:14the on the news and analysis for every other team in the league, especially
- 1:17:17the ones that are your rivals, because those are your opponents. You need
- 1:17:19to stay well informed and it's hard to find good a good objective analysis in
- 1:17:27general. And you and really the whole squad, you know, Kent and
- 1:17:30your whole crew at Casey Sports Network, like you guys do a great job
- 1:17:33covering the Chiefs and everything you do. It's good analysis, it's thoughtful,
- 1:17:36it's on point, it's accurate, and it's objective. Even though you were
- 1:17:42mean to me when you first came in and on your way out, but
- 1:17:45you know, I respect it. I respect your grind. I respect the
- 1:17:48hat and the shirt and the little chief's helmet in the corner. He did
- 1:17:50your thing. You are awesome again. I appreciate the hell idea. Godspeed
- 1:17:55rest of the voice as you kind of go through the rest of this week.
- 1:17:58Fan, I know I'll see you on Twitter and the DMS, and
- 1:18:01god speed, and I appreciate you as always. Thank you so much for
- 1:18:04having me Man. Enjoy the rest of evening. You too, Later,
- 1:18:08Buddy, Later later. Man. Matt is awesome. He's one of genuinely
- 1:18:14one of my favorite guests that I have on the show. I know I
- 1:18:15mentioned it earlier, but dude covers the Chiefs in a really objective way,
- 1:18:20breaks down film, breaks down tape. He knows concepts. You know,
- 1:18:24he makes the videos that I make or you'll see Eric make where you know
- 1:18:28he's breaking down concepts and schemes and why this play worked against this team,
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- 1:20:16what do you have on your anti wish list? For those of you
- 1:20:19riding with me live and on the episode. Is there a position you don't
- 1:20:23want to see? Is there a player you do not want to see?
- 1:20:26Is there's something specific that you don't want to see happen four or two the
- 1:20:31bills. It could be non bills related. It could be you know,
- 1:20:35I really don't want the Chiefs to get this guy. I don't want the
- 1:20:38Bengals to get this guy. Or maybe it is bills specific. Whatever you
- 1:20:41got, start throwing it up into the chat now. Will start to you
- 1:20:45know, read some things and bring some things up as we go for it
- 1:20:47a little bit here and start to wind down here in the end of the
- 1:20:49episode. I know some things can be you know, varying when it comes
- 1:20:54to the likes, depending on where you are. There's NFL draft and access
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- 1:21:09So please, please, please, thank you. I like this comment
- 1:21:11from NFL Drafting xas. I don't want Buffalo to draft bad players. Absolutely,
- 1:21:15you only want to draft good players. I know it can be confusing
- 1:21:18sometimes, but you only want good players. Oh, Bills mafistf comes in
- 1:21:23and says, I don't want to see Siaki Eka for any pick. Not
- 1:21:26a fan of Eka. Oh, and RJ says outside of Bijon, no
- 1:21:31running back, So RJ's cool with just James Cook, Damian Harris, and
- 1:21:35Nikim Hines. Nikki says doesn't want JSN or Jack Campbell to the Chiefs.
- 1:21:42Oh interesting, interesting, morning mine, what's up more of mine? She
- 1:21:45says, I don't want the Chiefs to get d hop Yeah, proven player
- 1:21:48will see what he has left in the tank, but especially with what what
- 1:21:54the Chiefs already have with Mahomes and Kelsey and Andy Reid, like adding another
- 1:21:57potential chip or weapon like that? Scary, scary, scary. Oh interesting.
- 1:22:01Brian says, I really don't want Flowers. Interesting. Zay Flowers has
- 1:22:05been such a fan favorite for a lot of Bills fans. I'm interested to
- 1:22:08see, Brian, why you don't want say Flowers? Very fair? I
- 1:22:13like Zay Flowers. For the record, I do think he's not the separator
- 1:22:16underneath that the Bills potentially may need, especially against Man. At a lot
- 1:22:21of times where he wins, it's due to his athleticism, and when he
- 1:22:24faces opponents of a higher tier athleticism were closer to his level of athleticism,
- 1:22:29like like when he matched up against Florida State. Granted, Boston College's offense
- 1:22:33schematically and from a talent perspective, was not good for Zay Flowers, but
- 1:22:40I think he tends to struggle with guys that have more athleticism closer to his
- 1:22:44level or above him, like he'll see in the NFL. So I don't
- 1:22:46think he's just going to be this dominant stud right away, but I do.
- 1:22:49I do like Zay Flowers, So it's interesting that you're not a fan.
- 1:22:53DF says, Oh, no edge in round one. Shane says,
- 1:22:58no D be in any round. Oh you're do you do want a dB
- 1:23:00in anyone? No, no dB in any round. Jim says, oh,
- 1:23:03does not want to trade up. I think that's fair. I wouldn't
- 1:23:06mind a trade up for certain players. Like again, I really don't want
- 1:23:10to trade up either. But if Peter Scronsky were to fall myself and here
- 1:23:14Turner we're talking about this earlier tonight, like a Peter Scarronsky were to fall.
- 1:23:16I wouldn't mind trading up for Peter Scorronsky because he's fantastic. But fair
- 1:23:20fair Oh Song comes in and in all caps with four exclamation points, says,
- 1:23:26I don't want Addison because he's too small. He's such a good,
- 1:23:30polished route runner, though, um by fair. I understand the size concerns.
- 1:23:34You know, under what what are we at? Let me let me
- 1:23:38check here. I know it's what one hundred and seventy three pounds up?
- 1:23:43Where's my notes? Yea six foot one hundred and seventy five. He's skinny,
- 1:23:45small frame, fair fair fair Oh. Justin Phillips says, absolutely don't
- 1:23:50draft the TCU wide receiver Quinn Johnston, and please know Jamir Gibbs in the
- 1:23:55first I don't think there's danger of Gibbs going in in the first two the
- 1:23:58bills. I do like Jamir Gibs a lot. His speed is real,
- 1:24:02his feet, his vision, his suddenness in the hole, and his ability
- 1:24:10to see fine, go and separate like he is a walking home run hitter
- 1:24:14waiting to happen. He's also good in the route distribution, like he's that
- 1:24:17guy in those Texas routes, those angle routes that he just makes linebackers look
- 1:24:21foolish. You can run him on a drag route, you know, from
- 1:24:24a spread alignment, and if you get him the ball on the move,
- 1:24:28watch out and look out. Darryl says, no running backs. Roy says,
- 1:24:33very simply, I want the Bills to actually let their rookies contribute more.
- 1:24:36That's fair, that's fair. No, I like this comment from Nicki.
- 1:24:41Micky says, I don't want another bull edge rusher if we do give
- 1:24:44us some bend, so von can mentor that's a piece, you know.
- 1:24:47I've talked about it on the show all offseason. Like the Bills, the
- 1:24:53Bills archetype for edge, aside from von Miller, has been compressed. The
- 1:24:57pocket, big, long, strong kind of guys, not very bendy,
- 1:25:00not overly athletic. Von von Miller is very much the antithesis of the archetype
- 1:25:05that they use on the edge. I would like guys with more bend,
- 1:25:09with more athleticism, with more dip to their game, but it's not something
- 1:25:13we've seen with regularity. Like honestly, if they go edge in this draft.
- 1:25:16I would think it's it would be somebody like like Zach Harrison from Ohio
- 1:25:21State, or like the most bendy kind of guy who isn't even really a
- 1:25:27bendy guy, would be like Isaiah Fosky from Notre Dame. Like they just
- 1:25:30they just traditionally have not gone for those bendy type of edges. But fair.
- 1:25:36Dennis says, I think Casey is more tolerable in New England because it's
- 1:25:40a genuine rivalry. I just don't want to see Kcy pick one of our
- 1:25:43guys again. I think that's fair NFL draft and Nic says I would prefer
- 1:25:46no round one wide receiver unless they decide Downs as a round one pick.
- 1:25:50I prefer Downs in round two over any of the round one guys. I
- 1:25:54think Josh Downs would be an absolutely tremendous, tremendous, tremendous fit for the
- 1:25:59Buffalo Bills. I do have a round two greade on him. I would
- 1:26:00love him in round two, especially at fifty nine. But I mean,
- 1:26:04if the Bills were to trade back, he's somebody who I love in the
- 1:26:09late thirties, early forties, depending on what you know, where they trade
- 1:26:13back to and how that shakes out. I wouldn't hate it in round one.
- 1:26:17I would prefer it in round two. But I mean he adds a
- 1:26:19lot of juice to that slot position with his craftiness, his route running nuance,
- 1:26:25how he paces his routes, his understanding of leverage and coverage in space.
- 1:26:29I also think he plays bigger at the catchpoint than he gets credit for.
- 1:26:32He's one of the best in college football last year in contest to catches
- 1:26:34thirteen out of eighteen. I forget where it placed him, but he was
- 1:26:39one of the best at contest to catches, which again is really saying a
- 1:26:43lot considering his size at five foot ten, one hundred and seventy five pounds,
- 1:26:46dude plays bigger that he is. Oh el Sharer says, I want
- 1:26:51Hopkins and Flowers. Oh, very interesting, very interesting. Oh, I
- 1:27:01appreciate you, Anthony. Anthony says, it's definitely not corny to remind people
- 1:27:04to hit the like. I appreciate you. You also have a tremendous name,
- 1:27:06and I'm not just saying that because we share it. Well, then
- 1:27:09well done anything. Oh DF says the only slot guy will take is Josh
- 1:27:16Downs. Else what else? Oh amacus comes in. I'm saying a lot
- 1:27:26of a lot I see trade stuff in this comment, so I pulled it
- 1:27:28up. Amakus says the Bills need to trade Oliver and a fifth for Hopkins.
- 1:27:31Then if Nijigba or Bijan is in the twenty seven, trade back to
- 1:27:35thirty two for Mazzie Smith, then trade up to forty two for Campbell and
- 1:27:40Sanders. A lot of variables there. But I don't hate the plan.
- 1:27:43I don't hate the plan. I appreciate you, Dennis. Dennis says he
- 1:27:48loves the vibe at the end of the show. Appreciate you, Thank you
- 1:27:50very much. Oh Dan Kinkit comes in and says, trade for Judy,
- 1:27:56Jerry. Judy's a really interesting one, right. I think he's I think
- 1:27:59he's still had some of his ceiling that he can hit and potential to hit.
- 1:28:01Denver has been not kind to him his first several years. I think
- 1:28:06he's a guy that could still reach some of the levels that he was projected
- 1:28:12to reach coming out of the draft several years ago. I think he's a
- 1:28:17really good route runner. I think he's got juiced to his game. He's
- 1:28:19got enough size, like you put him in this offense with Stefan Daggs with
- 1:28:23Gabriel Davis, and then you also had the youth factor on his side,
- 1:28:26right, Like, if he works out, you know he's a guy who
- 1:28:29you could potentially lock up long term and help himself out that wide receiver position
- 1:28:32too. I think he's got high end wide receiver to low end wide receiver
- 1:28:36one potential still despite the struggles he's had on early on. So I think
- 1:28:43that's very fair. Walter says, unless you think a guy has wide receiver
- 1:28:46one potential, I feel like drafting a wide receiver in the first round isn't
- 1:28:49optimal, especially in a draft class like this with little separation. That's been
- 1:28:54my biggest thing with this wide receiver class and my desire to not go wide
- 1:28:58receiver in round one. I think the drop off from whoever you have asure
- 1:29:06I don't know, top three or four wide receivers in this class, Like,
- 1:29:11I don't think the drop off is as big from wide receiver four to
- 1:29:15like wide receiver eight or nine or ten as it is from edge one through
- 1:29:20four to edge ten, or defensive tackle one through four to ten, or
- 1:29:24offensive tackle one through four to ten, Like I think there is a there's
- 1:29:28a larger positional cliff that exists at other position groups than at wide receiver.
- 1:29:34I think a lot of the value at wide receiver in this class is going
- 1:29:36to be found in rounds two, three, and four, depending on how
- 1:29:41the board shakes out. I think Jack's Jacks is a bit of a different
- 1:29:46case study for me with the Bills because of how much they rely on the
- 1:29:49slot and how proficient he is at the slot. Similar with Josh Downs.
- 1:29:53Again, I don't want Josh Downs on the first I would be okay with
- 1:29:56Jack's there, But given what the Bills do and need from that slot position,
- 1:30:00if one of them were to be the guy in round one, I
- 1:30:01wouldn't absolutely hate it. Saying thing with Addison like, I think I would
- 1:30:08like a round one wide receiver to have wide receiver one potential. But depending
- 1:30:13on your offense and how prevalent eleven personnel is and how much you rely on
- 1:30:17a slot receiver or a specific skill set in your offense to succeed, I
- 1:30:21think you can make the case to shift a little bit there. But I
- 1:30:26understand where your head is at night. You know, I don't completely disagree
- 1:30:29morning Mine shouting out the tree. Absolutely the tree is looking beautiful. I
- 1:30:31will be changing the Garland live for this Thursday on the Draft Show and on
- 1:30:35Friday as start to shift to a Draft miss celebration. But very fair.
- 1:30:44Oh Claude comes in and says, there are a bunch of good slots,
- 1:30:46Flowers, Downs and Jayden Reid from Mission State. Charlie Jones like them all,
- 1:30:50but the Bills need an X. Tillman or Wilson would fit, but
- 1:30:55the Bills don't seem interested. I think a lot of it depends on what
- 1:30:57you're going to do with Khalilshakire. If you think you can work on the
- 1:30:59boundary, you're going to look more for the slot. If you think he
- 1:31:00can work in the slot, you're gonna look more to the boundary. But
- 1:31:03very fair, very fair. I like this from Urt at the Mississippi Sports
- 1:31:09Group who says I'd love to have Josh Downs, but in the second round.
- 1:31:11I say our first pick should be the best defensive lineman available. On
- 1:31:14round one. I think the Trenches need work, especially on the defensive side
- 1:31:17of the ball, from a depth perspective, but also from a high end
- 1:31:21perspective, like especially in the interior. I'm gonna say just kind of one
- 1:31:26more time before we go into the draft. Right now, your top four
- 1:31:29defensive tackles or de Kuon Jones, at Oliver, Jordan Phillips, and Tim
- 1:31:32Settle. Jordan Phillips has legitimate injury concerns. I don't think you can stay
- 1:31:35healthy for a full year. Tim Settle had a horrible year last year from
- 1:31:38an advanced metric perspective, and everything after them like five through eight on the
- 1:31:43depth chart or even bigger question marks. You need top end talent in your
- 1:31:47defensive tackle grouping and depth for this year. And also you have no defensive
- 1:31:51tackle sign for twenty twenty four, so you need reinforcements for twenty twenty three.
- 1:31:56M Beyond edge grouping, is von Miller gonna miss time? Even if
- 1:31:59he does, you still need production off the edges, boy Boogie Basham.
- 1:32:01Shouldn't really be an edge number three, maybe not even an edge four.
- 1:32:04At Panessa is built more to be an edge four, not necessarily an edge
- 1:32:09three. As of right now, you need reinforcements. There a lot of
- 1:32:13potential consternation and conversation what comes to that defensive line grouping, which is a
- 1:32:17piece that I do think the Buffalo bills do need support, and I'm gonna
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