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At least up let's go it's time for better with the boys
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Yo, yo, yo, welcome back to banter with the boys gridiron updates week 13
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As you can see up here. Well, maybe you can't cuz you're on Apple podcasts or Spotify. Thank you for that, by the way
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We have Rachel back this week with us Rachel. Welcome back week two. Wow, it's week 13. I mean
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Representing the ladies. Hey, oh, yep like it. Did you enjoy your time last week?
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Yes, and I enjoy the men and thank you for having me guys boys men boys two men. Yeah
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Yeah, okay never mind I'm gonna leave that alone Jake right next to me Jake welcome back
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It's been a hot minute pretty much a good chunk of the season, but
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No longer than that feels feels short but also feels long
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No, it's short but also feels long interesting that could go. Yeah. Yeah Jake moving on what's going on? How's it been?
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Pretty pretty good Ravens been looking pretty solid a little bump in a hiccup against the Steelers, but to be expected
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Still strong division game. Yep. Yeah still looking good. You gotta be silly feeling good. Yep
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Steel feeling good. What you said steel still feeling good still feeling good
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Steelers fans that could be their new thing. We're still feeling good
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Feeling good. Anyway, that's dumb. Anyway with that let's move into our week at 12 game recaps. Oh, yeah. Don't forget kev behind the camera
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Hey, Kev and I'm Rob. Oh, yeah, and I'm Spell see yeah. Wow. That was a horrible intro. I tried
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It's like a move on. Thank you Kev
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Sorry about that intro that was a tornado going through a cornfield and we're all corn so we're screwed we'll survive though
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Anyway, yeah, we're good. Anyway, uh
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Moving on all right Vikings traveling to Chicago the Windy City and it was Chile
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But
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Viking somehow surviving we knew it would be a struggle though
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We knew as you be a close game division battle a lot of division games this year have been close
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Yes, they matter what division it is. There's something about that division game. That just means a little bit more
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but
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Rachel
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What did what did you see in this game?
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was this exciting to you or were you like nervous like on the edge your seat like
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Like oh god, it's gonna do a kick for us again again and OT against the Bears
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I mean do I need to say much more? You know what? I here's what I think the Bears they have that new offensive coordinator
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Thomas Brown you like them. Yeah. Well, he's obviously made a difference. This is his second game
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And the Bears offense played really well the first half they almost they dominated the time of possession
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We you know, we had that fumble in the beginning that changed things, right?
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They got the ball our defense was sitting around, you know
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They were out in the field a lot instead of sitting around getting a break waiting to be out there
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So that was one of the differences, right?
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And yeah, I think that
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We managed to win and it was like the most stress I've had
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Oh, yeah, so I'm not that I'm not complaining about it too much. It was like two years ago. That was every game
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So this year I'm like, it's one game. Yeah, but you gotta have that belief, you know, you do so we made it through we had
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Challenges and we still won. Yeah, the part that made me nervous is we both traded
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Possessions and overtime I was like, okay, here we go
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Like don't end in a tie at least like somebody won this game because both I mean both teams played well
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Somebody deserved to win that game. Sometimes you get to an overtime situation. It's still a tie. You're like, okay
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6-6 or whatever neither of these teams deserve to win this game, but I mean as a Vikings fan
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That's a game we typically lose in the past there enough, you know, like it had that had that like really
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We're up by two scores with two minutes left. They get that kick return put them quickly in
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Defenses tired from the last possession holding them, you know
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but then we you know go three and out quickly and then extend that game with that kickoff and then
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Who the stuff, you know, but Kayla Williams played probably the best game. I've seen him play all year
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So the Bears, you know still having up for you know, he's definitely turning out the defense is trending downwards typically right now
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They cannot stop running the ball
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Well, not the Vikings the Viking I'm saying the Bears Bears the Vikings defense. They played pretty well over pretty well
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I mean Gernard look at he had what for?
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TfLs to sacks. I mean he's he'd like defensive MVP
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Conversation at this point. No for the league. I don't know if he's no no
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No, I don't think he's been that he's been who do you got over him right now?
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Parsons not for defense even art. No, no, no, so it's gonna it's gonna come down to Miles Garrett and
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We'll say NFC. Oh in the NFC
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No, I don't because I'd have to look at where he's stacked up. But like personally even within the same team
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It's questionable because Van Gank was playing out of his mind as well
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I am not denying that but still I think your Nards numbers overall are still better than like good enough for NFC
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Defensively the year. I think the injuries in the NFC on the defensive side
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Which brings that into that conversation?
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Conversation interesting so but Sam played a nice another second game coming back from the you know back to the Jacksonville game
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We ran the ball nice
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Jefferson got bracketed like crazy Addison stepped up where he needed to hawk and with another nice game, you know
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So it felt good the end felt weird
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But you know if we stop him on that kickoff, you know at the 25 yard lane
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That might be a whole different finish and we're having a whole different vibe
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Go for it
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so
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Overall, it felt like a Vikings mixed bag of nuts, right? Because you had like all of these highs
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Yeah, because you had the red zone fumble by Aaron Jones at the start the game. Yep
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You had the block field goal save points
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But then you had a failed fourth down conversion when you probably maybe take a shot at getting the three
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Points instead of going for it would have been a 52 yarder, but I don't know
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That's kind of a coin toss. It was 14 mile-hour wins in Chicago that day, right?
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So I didn't necessarily agree with that fourth down
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But yeah
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And Jordan Addison
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Hawkinson and even Aaron Jones they all stepped up. Yeah, I did Aaron Jones had a quiet hundred hundred and three, right?
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And it was it was just silent and deadly. Yeah, it was kind of a quiet 103 106 whatever
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Yeah, he had a better first half second half. I think that's where you had quietest
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That's why I feel like it seems like a quiet game and and then the and then the Vikings defense is still strong
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They shut down the Bears running game. Caleb Williams was their leading rusher. Yeah. Yeah
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So, you know, well, we got to remember we lost cam Robinson in the game, right? That's very came in
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We're like we need a healing on the offensive line there because we have that injury in the last
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Third offensive lineman so like that makes a difference
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The last time Christian Berry came in he got blown up too. So yeah, but he played well
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I like we didn't see his name all right the rest of the game
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Yeah, who have to see his PFF
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Cam Robinson's back it was just like a link ankle or whatever. I don't really I don't have an update
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I will provide an update
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Be a good time for it right now
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I
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Read something that it's the same foot injury that he's continued to have so I thought I saw that so it's probably gonna be back
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Next week. So all right be optimistic about that. Okay
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Optimistic about cam Robinson. Yeah, you need it
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We do need it the the last thing I'll say about this game that does concern me is
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How the Bears were able to kind of contain Justin Jefferson a little bit? Yes
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It opened it up for Addison and TJ and thank God we have those guys as well, right?
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But it's kind of like did the Bears just so show the rest of the league
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What what can be done to try to slow this dude down or you're not concerned at all and like well, it's JJ
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So not concerned back to Jay Jedis next week. No, I'm not concerned because it
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Jordan Addison and Hawkinson and they're like you're showing that hey
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We've got a good two and we've got a good three that if if Justin Jefferson gets like doubled all game longer
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You're good. Yeah, if they don't show they don't show then I'm concerned right?
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so
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You're good. If otherwise, yeah, so you're good. That's the idea if you're getting triple team by somebody's somebody's bound
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Yeah, I mean so I can't Robinson is we'll see we'll see so okay, hopefully not question. Mary. No offense
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I know you're listening buddy
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Yeah moving on Vikes get the dub 32 27 wasn't it? That sounds right
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30 to 27 and overtime
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the packer game
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49ers traveling to Green Bay without after we recorded we have found out that purdy and
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Bosa were not playing in the game. They wanted change some picks for some people we talked about the
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Williams that game either. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, you're missing half the squad CMC only went for 31 yards alone carries
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It wasn't pretty no, I
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Sit on that so obviously you are so that must have been an oh, I did you know what I have this fun fact
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I gotta find it though. Oh
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The 49ers haven't lost in 55 regular season games. No, they haven't allowed of a hundred yard
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100 yard plus rusher sees me in 55 regular season game Wow
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Jacob Jones
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Josh Jacob
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55 home how many seasons
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55 game
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I'm as a day a year. So that's what nine seasons ish. That's why they've been 17. No, it's like 17 games
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It's a lot
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Math is hard
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Niners are so high though every year's true
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They're deep, you know, we know their defense is gonna carry them a little bit and then you had pretty just show up. Yeah
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Start doing this thing. But yeah safe to say Brandon Allen did not quite get it done
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No, I'm Arkansas the whole six rounder Jacksonville, but neither did their defense either. I mean it was just they're on the field all day
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What are they? It was just a Josh Jacob show and that's exactly it right?
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What was their time of possession should be right here ended up being a lot?
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Packers 36 minutes. Yeah, it's 36 to 23, but that first half it was distinctively
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different all Packers was like the first I think the first quarter the
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49ers only had six total offensive plays. Yeah, just like you know, what are you gonna do with that? Yeah, that's when I shut it off
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That's when you went over to the Broncos
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Yeah, I was like my moving on from that and that game was actually not that great either
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But it was a little more at least competitive. Yeah, we had a V bad
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That's what it was. So I mean a good win for Green Bay overall at home
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Josh Jacobs doing his thing getting that 20 20 plus carries
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We you know, not necessarily at the number you but what we've been saying that we kind of want to see that's when he's good
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When he gets 20 touches, that's when he's good. Yeah. Yep, Jordan love, you know 13 for 23 163
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Nothing, nothing too crazy. But I mean, he doesn't doesn't have to be crazy. I didn't turn the ball
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Oh, you know young players there. They started to get momentum at the end of last year and it's like
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Really continued to go through those whole season right now
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And if you want to get to the playoffs, you're gonna get have to go through the NLC North, right? Oh
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This point. Yeah, we're hard to beat no matter what well
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No, we'll be on the road actually the Vikings and the Packers and the wild card
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Well, just give the Lions the title here on the NFC North. Well true actually I said the Lions and the Packers
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My bad, my bad
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We cut that out Kevin
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But
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Yeah, Vikes only one game behind Detroit that could change that's fair that's fair I could change
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But yeah, not much else to say is kind of a blowout. Obviously Packers getting the win 38 to 10
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Ah still staying with the pace in the NFC North right now. Who knows they could still absolutely win the division
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How many games do we have left now at this point?
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One two, three six or five six. Yeah six games who knows that could flip division games to be played
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Yeah, you never know Bears again not gonna be easy and I think they've only played him once the Packers
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I can't remember but never mind
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No, I'm lying. Sorry. They have to bear with me
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No, you're good. No, I play they end the season against the Bears. Yeah. Yeah, and the best part
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We have a Vikings game too. We're not worried about that
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Lions yeah the Vikings against the Lions. Yeah at home. So how sweet would that be for the division?
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I think that'd be the first time
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That that would happen. No, I doubt it
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No division in the last game of the season for the well
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Yeah, but not for the I think typically is for the conference. You usually have like oh that team loses
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Then the other you know, I feel like came down to a game before you don't think I don't know what the look that up
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I don't know. I don't think it's ever came down to the last years of the NFL
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It's never came down to the last game in the season decided decision
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Where they played each other Oh where they played each other to decide the division
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I just I bet all right. Well, I look that one of the we'll bring that back next night
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Well, cuz I NFL kind of rescheduled that you know in the end with the division towards, you know
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The end before those kind of matchups. Yep. Sure. Yeah for sure for sure and we're gonna potentially get one. So
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Yeah, Green Bay get no in well again stay in with the NFC North
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Green Bay, I mean, I'm sorry. We just talked about Green Bay, Arizona traveling to Seattle
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We knew that was gonna be a tough close game
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There's lower scoring than I thought it would be good old division game
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I know Seattle's defense is kind, you know, they're flowing right now, but I figured this would have been that place a little bit higher scoring
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You know, yeah, and that place was rockin
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Was gonna be yeah, it's Seattle fans come out in force
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The Seattle Seahawks will beat the Cardinals six times in a row. Oh
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Six straight win. What do you think about that? They own you. Where was that nugget when I needed it last week?
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Well, you have it now. Yeah, and they play the Cardinals in two more weeks
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So maybe we'll just do that game and now, you know, all right
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Well now I gotta go Seahawks and other Cardinals are gonna get this up. So was their defense really that great?
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who's
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Seahawks, I don't think either. I don't think either of them played that well. I think it was just
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Poor execution on both sides of the ball for both teams just seemed like a really off game to me Rob's got some yeah
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I mean
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I mean that pick six by Kobe Bryant and kind of was the
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Thing that changed the whole game out Williams the the DN from them
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He was just creating havoc down the highlights as I get two and a half sacks
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And then I kind of saw a little nugget that there was two scoring plays in this game that the refs
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Messed up even they have to replay every goes obviously it should have been called this way, but it went the other way
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So it was like a hole there was
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Not a favor of Arizona that they were non touchdowns because of both teams got kind of screwed twice
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officiatings are really weird all year
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Yes, especially on their game while they're bonehead move a week last week for sure so these two qualify into the bonehead part so fair enough
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Yeah, I mean
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Hard-fought division game now Seattle takes a division lead they got a tied record
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But obviously winning the head-to-head and again they play in two more weeks. Yeah too early to tell
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Who's nobody?
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Because
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The Rams still at five and six San Francisco still at five and six and San Francisco's been
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I almost said something else really bad all year
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And they absolutely still have an opportunity to win this if they can get fully healthy
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They could go on a run still they are they totally could but let me throw this question to the whole group out then
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Between these three teams the 49ers the Dolphins and the Bengals which ones gonna make the playoffs in the 49ers Dolphins and the Bengals
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Yes
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49ers have an opportunity to win their own their own division and then the Bengals and
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Also the Dolphins being the AFC which is a side that you could probably squeeze in that 500 the Bengals
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The Bengals are gonna have to win out. I think that that's pretty hard
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The probably the Dolphins right now because the Dolphins are getting hot too
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Yeah, and have a winnable game this week well winnable ish game this week in Green Bay
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So then you're all agreeing that the 49ers are not making the playoffs
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Which is crazy
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They're not gonna get a wild card
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That's
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That's another tough division, I don't know I have no idea who's going I'm going dolphins
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I said it a couple weeks ago the Dolphins are
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You remember who I picked one that division it was either Seattle or Arizona. No we both pick 49ers
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We both pick 49ers
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We're gonna be trying to think we're smart
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Look at me trying to think we're smart
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They're still in it
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Yeah, yeah, it could still happen. That's what we're talking about exactly
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No, I'm not gonna think about interesting interesting
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But yeah, not much else to go on here moving on to
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Philadelphia going to LA we had two games in LA this week game one if you will Philadelphia
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playing the Rams
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Philly getting the dub 3720. I was the only one to pick that pick the Rams, but
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Yeah, they were competitive in the first half so you can take that as a moral
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Whatever the Eagles just keep rolling. I mean Saquon is just absolutely ridiculous
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I mean my fantasy team
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Almost 10 yards a carry in a game and you're running for 255 yards. That's just why do anything else?
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So why even rushing record is it 295? No, it was like 326. No in a single game
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I think it's two
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No, you're right. It is 295 by Eric Dickerson, right or is it Adrian? No Adrian Pearson 296
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296
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It takes a collective to come up with these answers
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I knew it the whole time was this way it was against the Chargers
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It was against the Chargers too
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There was actually
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When he needed a rest Gainwell went in and scored again, so like their running game seriously on point and
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Jalen hurts. It's just like you're once this ball next
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He didn't did enough to win
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There was a couple of awesome camera shots of just Jalen hurts and the dump smirk
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He had on his face after those Saquon touchdowns cuz he's just like I don't have to do anything when I got a guy this good
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I'm fun. Yeah, that's the best part of playing sports is having fun
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It's also like I don't mind. Yeah, okay
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Who's who's winning Detroit or the Eagles for the NFC?
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Championship in Detroit Eagles versus Detroit right now who would win that game? That's I would be ridiculous game, but
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Obviously, we know the Vikings run the ball. Yeah
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I mean if I I would in my heart want the Lions to win because I would rather see them win
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Well, and we have a hatred for the rightfully the linebacker for the Lions and the Tonsie or whatever the long
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It's the same
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Is he and Zaloni is he gonna play? If he plays
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Yeah, if he plays they Detroit wins
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Yeah, and I think he's still exactly that's I'm saying. I think he's the difference
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He's a glue guy if I'm gonna pick the winner of it right now
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That's where I'm going with the current injuries of the both team statuses
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What yeah, I guess we need to we also need to know
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Like what's the status Dave David Montgomery cuz he's true. Yeah, both teams are healthy both teams are healthy lines
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I'm sorry
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Yeah, does that mean Hutchins back? No
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I did say both themes
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Other so other fun fact to say Kwon Barkley had more yards from San Diego
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I mean, I think he's a little bit better than him
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Other so other fun fact to say Kwon Barkley had more yards from scrimmage than nine teams
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This week this week
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There was some low scoring overall the NFL this week a lot of field goals all throughout the league
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And the most insulting one, of course is obviously that he had more scrimmage yards than the Giants did well
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I'm a leak me leak neighbors made that no. Yeah. Yeah, and that whole thing on HBO
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The hard knocks with the owner and that getting played over and over on X right now
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Of them not keeping Barkley and the owner going god. He's kind of our best player. He sells the most jerseys
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I don't really want to go to Philly and we're gonna have to dig up tape
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But I thought I said in week one it was dumb that they have Daniels and it didn't resign Barkley
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They should have done it the other way around. Yeah. Well, I know none of them
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Yeah, and that goes with your argument about running backs, you know, are they back? Are they making a big difference?
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We see kind of the the rushing battle right now between Saquon and Derek Henry
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But there's there's other running backs that are making a difference on their teams
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Jk Dobbins for the Chargers that offense looks different when Aaron Jones is in the game the Vikings look a little bit different
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Vert you know, is it is it are we seeing the return of the value of a running back? You know, I mean
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Yeah, there's value. It's whether or not ownership wants to pay for it
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And that's just it right? Is it fantasy football what ruined the running back then?
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Because there's not as much value as in running backs. I guess as the receivers though, you know
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So and everyone likes the throwing of the ball
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It's more flashy you have to have a run game in order to have a winning offense
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You have to have the better person agree both of those ingredients
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And I don't think the running backs ever died. It's just sometimes they get old they get you know, that's why we have
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Cam anchors, right because it's the balance between Aaron Jones taking all of
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You know the possessions and you just got to mix it up
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You got to have a running back by committee, but you got to have that main leader
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You need them. Yeah need them. They never left my heart. Never good. Good. That's good
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Well, glad we established that Ravens Jake's Ravens traveling to LA as well for game two in LA at SoFi
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For the Harbol. For the Harbol. A lot of good one-liners. Good job. The third meeting of the brothers. That's right
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The third meeting of the brothers. Repeat. I am wearing the Chargers jersey. I said last week I'd wear it
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It is a Herbie Jersey, but I can't confirm. Wait this way. There it is. Yeah he can confirm
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But I wish it was for a win though. So that sucks. That sucks and it was the game wasn't as close as the scores really showing
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I agree. You know as soon as JK Dobbins went down Chargers offense seriously looked different
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Williams can't catch a cold right now. No hate on Gus, but yeah can't catch it
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And then yeah, what's his name? Quinnen Johnson as well. That's my man. Not Williams. He was the other receiver they got rid of because he couldn't catch a cold
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Yeah, yeah. So Quinnen Johnson. Yeah dropping a couple big plays late. It's contagious over there in that freaking receiver room
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Contagious. Even though I love Conkey. I kind of like him though. He looks so good
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But yeah, McConkey another great game from him, but yeah again just different
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But your Baltimore Ravens defense came to play this week looking a lot better to be honest with you
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With Alspeth. Sort of. I think it was hit and miss. Even before Dobbins went down they let up a couple Dobbins runs
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So they got steamrolled on that first drive and it just looked and felt like the defense is still going to be
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I know I felt good at that point. But they. And it changed. Yeah they shorted some things up
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Unfortunately J.K. Dobbins got hurt. But typical. I'm not sold on that Ravens defense yet
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I still feel like they're pretty big civ especially in the secondary right now. They did miss. It's a hockey term for you people out there
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They did miss Roquan Smith a lot. Just with commanding that defense and then having to put Kyle Hamilton back up in the box
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Without Roquan Smith. Put more pressure on that secondary too
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That first fourth and one that the Ravens went for on their 16 I was scratching my head even at the beginning
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I was just like I'm usually a go for it kind of guy. But for that one I'm like on the 16 I don't know
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Did they get it? Yeah they did. That was the Mark Andrews sneak. Oh yeah. And then that led to their second touchdown drive
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But yeah it was I think they played a gutsy or their offense was gutsy
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Derrick Henry running the ball again a lot. 24 carries 140 yards which is what you want out of Derrick Henry
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But yeah I'm still worried about that Ravens secondary. Too many PIs in garbage time
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A lot of penalties. A lot of penalties still continue as of that. But again some of them are sus
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Obviously the refs didn't listen to our episode last week when we talked about them
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I mean again. Can't see or hear now. Neither did the Shield. The Shield obviously didn't listen either
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Because they got to figure this thing out. I mean seriously there was even one against JJ this week
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That I was like come on. The first one was fine but the second one I was like okay. Yeah yeah
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But I don't know. So you can't give those up late. The one that didn't get called which was kind of a break
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Was the one that they picked up that was uncatchable and I was like well it was uncatchable because he was just getting mauled
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So I mean at one point it was like it should have still been called against the Ravens
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Alright as a Raven fan halfway through the season. Two thirds almost through the season. Where are you ranking in the AFC?
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In the AFC. Where would you put them? Fourth
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So you got Bills, Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens
27:32
Steelers still. Why? Because of their defense?
27:36
Their defense. They've got Lamar Jackson's number. I think Lamar is 1-8 against the Steelers in his career
27:43
So they've got something in their playbook against him so. Alright alright. And until Lamar can beat them
27:52
Steelers overrated. Got it. Alright. Well the Ravens did face a good defense this week
27:59
Like they did last week with the Steelers. But they still scored more points. They got all the weapons. Everybody was scoring
28:07
Lamar scored. Did Bateman or Flowers score? I don't remember. Yeah. Bateman got it. Yeah.
28:13
I think you have another purple fan over here. It's easy to sway when it's the same color
28:19
Yeah. Or similar shade. Well they have a lot of good offensive weapons so they're easy to remember those players
28:24
But again they do need to work on their defense if they're going to keep going and competing in that AFC
28:30
And if they want to make a deep run in the play. I'm going to steal a Rob note and he said that the Ravens looked experienced
28:36
No I didn't. I think it's really their offense because they again, this is like the third week in a row
28:44
Third or fourth week in a row that they got themselves in a deficit in that offense. Playing from behind got them back into the game
28:51
And something that you've, as a Ravens fan or as a Ravens team, you've missed the past three or four years
28:57
It's like oh they're playing from behind. Lamar is just going to like play huckum chuckum football and you're going to hope for the best
29:03
But this year it's been, we're sticking to the run game. We're giving the ball to Derek Henry and then we're still going to keep punching you in the face
29:11
And then see who wins in the end. Until you play Pittsburgh and they're like yeah we're Steel here. Steel here.
29:18
With that Kev, let's head into our tent talk
29:32
And to start off our tent talk, not a lot going on as far as injuries go. Ivan Pace for the Vikes hitting the IR this week
29:42
A little unfortunate for us
29:44
Pill, we need to fill in
29:48
Just because we cover the Packers, I hear Alexander's still out at the moment
29:52
Xavier McKinney's still out at the moment
29:54
Those are two hits for the Packers, especially when we're coming up to picks later
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Like you said, David Montgomery, he did practice today but he was limited so I don't know
30:06
They'll be alright
30:08
And even if they don't have them, do you think they're alright without David Montgomery for one game?
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Yeah I think they'll be okay
30:16
Gibbs is enough
30:18
Well who do they play to?
30:20
Detroit?
30:22
Somebody lowish
30:24
Lowish
30:26
Hold on, stand by, I have it
30:28
Chicago
30:30
In Detroit though
30:32
Yeah I think they'll be fine
30:34
We need Chicago to win that game actually
30:38
We do, but
30:40
Oh Caleb, see I'm on that bag on there
30:42
You know who was practicing today?
30:44
Isaiah Pacheco
30:46
That would not be ideal for the rest of the AFC
30:50
AFC fans?
30:52
It would not be ideal for anybody?
30:54
Or anybody for that matter
30:56
But yeah, not a ton more injuries that I can remember anyway
31:00
I guess Tommy DeVito also
31:02
Not feeling super awesome
31:04
Not 100%
31:06
He's just probably feeling morally defeated
31:10
Because Baker Mayfield stole his touchdown dance
31:12
It was so good
31:14
God, he was really aggressive with it too
31:16
Insanely aggressive with it
31:18
And then he did it forever, the duration of the celebration was ridiculous
31:22
I'm a Baker fan
31:24
I know, I would have took Baker here
31:26
I know, I'm becoming a Baker fan more and more now
31:28
I love it
31:30
Baker's a baller
31:32
He becomes the play
31:34
No receivers, just throwing W's out
31:36
Baker's a baller
31:38
The little bit of news we have, not a ton out there today
31:40
Danny Dimes though, released by the New York Giants per request
31:44
Where's he gonna go?
31:46
Well for a minute there on Sunday
31:48
It looked like it could have been Minnesota with Sam Darnold laying on his back
31:52
But he was fine
31:54
He seems fine, he said he needed to just walk it off
31:56
So I feel comfortable
31:58
I think Daniel Jones just needs a change of scenery
32:02
I think he'll get an opportunity somewhere in a backup role
32:04
For sure he will
32:06
And we'll definitely see some playing time again at some point
32:08
And maybe pull a Geno Smith on us
32:10
Play well enough somewhere that he gets a little three year deal
32:14
I hope he does
32:16
I think him playing safety in practice was it for him
32:20
Did you hear that?
32:22
I heard that
32:24
He was playing scout team safety
32:26
What I heard is not team player
32:28
Oh
32:30
Tell me more
32:32
Don't get me wrong, you're downgraded from starting quarterback in the NFL
32:34
Now you're playing scout team safety
32:36
And Danny Dorito, Tommy DeVito is starting
32:38
Come on man
32:40
He's just saying he's an athlete
32:42
That's all he's saying
32:44
Well has he cleared the waivers today?
32:46
Yes, he has cleared waivers
32:48
So where's he gonna go?
32:50
The Jets?
32:52
There's more teams interested in him than I had anticipated
32:56
Raiders for sure
32:58
Raiders, Ravens
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Panthers, Chargers, Vikings
33:02
He could go to San Francisco and be a backup and learn behind Kyle Shanahan
33:06
Which would actually probably be really good for him
33:08
Probably be good for him
33:10
Because I think we're seeing
33:12
Brandon Allen doesn't look like the answer
33:14
Actually he played okay actually
33:16
Towards the end of the segment
33:18
I forget his name, let's continue
33:20
Because
33:22
There's just a quarterback development problem
33:24
You get all of these young
33:26
College quarterbacks
33:28
Drafted high, thrown into the fire
33:30
They're expected to like
33:32
Produce and be productive right out of the gates
33:34
And we've definitely touched on that before
33:36
Why are more teams not going
33:38
The Green Bay Packer approach at this point
33:40
Because it seems to be working
33:42
For sure
33:44
It's like oh man my nice shiny new Ferrari
33:46
And I'm just gonna park it in the garage for
33:48
Summers in a row
33:50
No man that's not gonna happen
33:52
But we're not saying
33:54
And we're not saying
33:56
You have to do it four years but at least
33:58
Don't start them their first year
34:00
Well look at Carolina
34:02
They haven't had even Baker Mayfield
34:04
Was there, Sam Darnall was there
34:06
They had, I mean they just
34:08
Quarterback carousel and nobody sticks
34:10
So there's a problem there beyond
34:12
Just a QB coach
34:14
And QB development but
34:16
You know what you're saying it's happening to a lot of
34:18
These early drafts
34:20
But you do get a couple like CJ Stroud and
34:22
Jade and Daniels
34:24
But Bryce Young is actually kind of
34:26
Something up the last hole
34:28
FYI out there if you haven't seen him
34:30
He's kind of slanging it lately
34:32
I was not ready to give up on Bryce
34:34
I know but in the last two weeks
34:36
He's been, I don't know
34:38
Something's turned
34:40
Something's different
34:42
Drinking from a different spigot
34:44
Well I watched the Chiefs game
34:46
And he played well against the Chiefs
34:48
He was throwing with anticipation
34:50
He was just
34:52
Chucking and like I don't give a
34:54
You have to at this point if you're Bryce Young
34:56
That's how you gotta play in the NFL
34:58
Yeah, for sure
35:00
The only other thing I really wanted to touch on
35:02
Is Jerry Jones came out and said something
35:04
That it wouldn't be that crazy
35:06
Or crazy at all or something
35:08
Along those lines if they
35:10
Were to give Mike McCarthy an extension
35:12
And we kind of touched on that
35:14
Last week
35:16
Who was it? Oh man, I'm gonna
35:18
I think it was Dom a couple weeks ago
35:20
That talked about
35:22
Why would you not give
35:24
Him an extension? I mean it's hard to go 12-5
35:26
You know, multiple
35:28
Seasons in a row, you know what I mean
35:30
So, I don't know
35:32
Since you're back on the show here
35:34
What do you think? Should the Cowboys give
35:36
Mike McCarthy an extension?
35:38
Obviously on his last year right now
35:40
And not making the playoffs this season
35:42
With half your team injured
35:44
So, their record
35:46
Being what it is
35:48
Can't put all of that fault on
35:50
Mike McCarthy
35:52
I agree
35:54
There's a culture thing that needs to
35:56
Change there and it starts with
35:58
Jerry Jones and he's not going to
36:00
Sell the team
36:02
He's not gonna put on the big boy pants
36:04
And be like I'm gonna stop being like
36:06
The general manager and I'm gonna let somebody else
36:08
Pick the players
36:10
Unless he
36:12
Decides he's gonna get over it and be like
36:14
Well, and who's the
36:16
But in reality he's done a pretty good job
36:18
Actually thinking about picking
36:20
Dallas has been relevant for
36:22
They haven't been to the
36:24
You know they've been playoff quality
36:26
But they haven't won it
36:28
But still, everyone's
36:30
Talking about him every year as being a
36:32
Probably Super Bowl contender
36:34
For sure
36:36
Since DAC and Romo
36:38
Right, you mentioned the culture thing
36:40
Who is that tight end that plays for
36:42
The Texans now that played for Dallas before
36:44
Schultz
36:46
He came out and said I know we mentioned it earlier this season
36:48
Or maybe even last season we talked about this
36:50
But how Dalton Schultz says
36:52
When you're with Dallas
36:54
The weight room's open to the public
36:56
Viewing to the public, people can just come
36:58
And watch you
37:00
But everything you do
37:02
For the Dallas Cowboys is a spectacle
37:04
So okay
37:06
I got a guilty pleasure show that I have to share
37:08
Because
37:10
It's not mine
37:12
It's a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader show
37:14
That's an excellent show
37:16
And right now I'm probably turning red
37:18
But it was an excellent show
37:20
Netflix did a really good job
37:22
But even the cheerleaders, everything's a production for the Cowboys
37:24
No matter where you are in the organization
37:26
You're representing the Dallas Cowboys
37:28
And that's just wild to me
37:30
So is that part of it though
37:32
Does that start to wear on guys
37:34
Like Micah Parsons was probably born for this
37:36
That probably could be
37:38
Think about the Miami Dolphins last year
37:40
They were hot
37:42
And I don't want to correlate the two together
37:44
But as soon as they started doing
37:46
The midseason hard knocks
37:48
They kind of just fell off a cliff
37:50
True
37:52
Jalen Phillips got hurt too
37:54
Yeah
37:56
Like I said I don't want to draw
37:58
Correlations
38:00
But it would be interesting to see what happens
38:02
With the NFC North
38:04
Because this year's midseason hard knocks
38:06
Is all about the NFC North
38:08
Oh is it? Yeah it's like all four teams
38:10
Interesting
38:12
Well I'm going to have to tune into that
38:14
I did not know that
38:16
I don't know how it affects it
38:18
I mean
38:20
What's the difference in that
38:22
I think with all the cameras
38:24
Constantly in their face
38:26
You're throwing off your practice schedule
38:28
I think there's so many cameras these days
38:30
You've got to get into routine
38:32
I get it, in some aspects
38:34
I like that, yeah, yeah, habit
38:36
That's true, we'll throw it off a little bit
38:38
To each their own I guess
38:40
But at the same time, as we're in front of cameras right now
38:42
Right, what? We are?
38:44
Oh man
38:46
With that Kev, let's head right into Bonehead Move of the Week
38:48
Bonehead Move of the Week
38:56
Please, do what?
38:58
Do what opener? Here we are
39:00
Bonehead Move of the Week, brought to you by Smelty
39:02
Here I am
39:04
So honorable mention this week
39:06
Just because I thought it was interesting
39:08
Wherever you are on the situation
39:10
We're not going to get political here
39:12
But Tyreek Hill was pulled over
39:14
Heading into the
39:16
Season opener
39:18
And then thrown on the ground
39:20
It was a whole thing, right?
39:22
Right, everybody did
39:24
While those charges were just dismissed
39:26
Because those arresting officers didn't show up
39:28
To the court hearing
39:30
So charges dismissed
39:32
One was already on leave
39:34
Getting investigated I guess
39:36
But whatever
39:38
I thought it was like
39:40
If you're at least going to do it, at least show up
39:42
And plead your case, or whatever it may be
39:44
I would not even do that
39:46
So Bonehead honorable mention to
39:48
Would that be Miami Police? I don't know if it was a home game or not
39:50
It was a home game
39:52
So, whatever
39:54
Anyway, Bonehead Move of the Week
39:56
Is low key for me
39:58
And this is vague, right?
40:00
I'm going to say the media
40:02
But specifically blowing up the story of neighbors
40:04
Coming out and calling the Giants
40:06
As a team, I guess
40:08
Soft this week
40:10
After this week's performance he called the team soft
40:12
And he said, you know,
40:14
I'm actually in favor of neighbors
40:16
I know typically I might be a little soft
40:18
On people in Bonehead Move
40:20
But I'm actually in favor of what neighbors said
40:22
Like calling out the team, like we gotta be better essentially
40:24
You know what I mean? You're gonna get offended by being called soft
40:26
I don't know, on a football field, I don't know
40:28
You know what I mean?
40:30
But the media kind of blew it out of proportion
40:32
And you know, he's like
40:34
They never do that
40:36
They never do that
40:38
You know, could have apologized for it or whatever
40:40
But you gotta take a story like that and run with it like that
40:42
You know what I mean? And again, it's all stories
40:44
That's how it works, right?
40:46
And it's New York
40:48
And it's New York
40:50
If he's calling them soft
40:52
On the private side
40:54
Then I'm fine with him calling them soft in the media
40:56
But I don't like going to the media first
40:58
And saying you're soft
41:00
That's how my approach
41:02
So you don't want him to like
41:04
So you're saying that privately
41:06
Talking to your teammates and stuff like, hey, we're soft
41:08
And he's the media to pick us up
41:10
And he's so fed up, he got to the point
41:12
He goes, alright, they're all soft
41:14
You know? Yeah
41:16
Then I'm cool with that
41:18
But you don't like if you go to the media first
41:20
No, no, I like, you know
41:22
Because football is a team sport
41:24
You're in your locker room
41:26
You're so with individuals
41:28
For such a long period of time
41:30
That those conversations
41:32
Should already be happening in the locker room
41:34
For sure
41:36
Do you have an opinion on this?
41:38
No, I don't
41:40
Just not at all, nothing
41:42
Listening
41:44
What do you think, Jake?
41:46
I don't mind it
41:48
From what side? From the neighbor side
41:50
I mean, at what point in time do you draw the line in the sand?
41:52
And you're going to be
41:54
You're playing for a 2-9 team right now
41:56
That just released their
41:58
Was supposed to be their franchise quarterback
42:00
Right
42:02
So how long are you going to
42:04
Stand there
42:06
And your Malik neighbors, you are now the face of the franchise
42:08
He better be
42:10
He's asking for it now
42:12
You can't just say that
42:14
And not, you know
42:16
Now he's got to show up
42:18
Who's the head coach now? I really don't know
42:20
He's got a hot seat
42:22
I don't think he is
42:24
You don't think so?
42:26
Which is interesting to think
42:28
That ownership
42:30
Still has the approval
42:32
Of the general manager and Brian Dade
42:34
Yeah, I haven't heard anything
42:36
Either about him really
42:38
Probably going to be around next year
42:40
And they're going to continue to shop for new groceries
42:42
And grab Shudder Shanders
42:44
That's the topic of conversation
42:46
I don't know
42:48
You see Dion in New York?
42:50
No, I don't see Dion in the pros at all
42:52
As a coach
42:54
So you agree with that conversation last week pretty much
42:56
Well that's all made up
42:58
That Dion and his son
43:00
Have to go together
43:02
They're a package deal
43:04
I don't buy that either
43:06
We're getting off base
43:08
With that, Cavs, let's head right into week 13
43:10
Preview and picks
43:22
Alright
43:24
With our picks
43:26
Let's start with
43:28
I haven't
43:30
Arizona, traveling to
43:32
Minnesota, we have none at the moment
43:34
But what do you got?
43:36
Shortly
43:38
Vikings over Cardinals
43:40
I feel like it's going to be an easy one
43:42
Just looking at the
43:44
Struggle bus of a stat line that the Cardinals had
43:46
Against the Sea Chickens last week
43:50
The Vikings
43:52
Offense as a whole
43:54
Is pretty balanced and strong
43:56
And Hawkinson's back
43:58
With a vengeance right now
44:00
Which is super good to see
44:02
He's playing very well
44:04
And
44:06
He balances everything
44:08
With Oliver too
44:10
Which we missed I think
44:12
Oh my god, Johnny Munch
44:14
You're awesome
44:16
Best third tight end in the league
44:18
You got two solid tight ends
44:20
You got
44:22
Justin Jefferson, Addison
44:24
Show signs of greatness too
44:26
As being a number two
44:28
I have no doubts
44:30
That Vikings are going to beat the Cardinals
44:32
I don't think they're going to flub it up like
44:34
They did against the Bears
44:36
I think a straight W for his phone game
44:38
After three
44:40
Roadviks
44:42
Three road victories, don't forget
44:44
When's the last time we won three
44:46
Road games in a row? I don't know
44:48
Not my lifetime
44:50
I don't know
44:52
It's weird to even say that we won three road games
44:54
I think Kevin's hitting up the Google
44:56
But that's how hard it is in the NFL
44:58
To win three road games
45:00
Even though the opponents weren't
45:02
Let's say
45:04
Contender level
45:06
So, yeah it's not easy
45:08
I'm going to Vikings as well
45:10
No way they're going to lose at home to the Cardinals
45:12
But I think it will be a little closer
45:14
Than we think, I think Kyler Murray is a hard
45:16
Guy to contain
45:18
James Conner has a game here and there
45:20
I don't know, and of course Marvin Harrison
45:22
Your guy, so
45:24
Trey McBride's been coming up huge as of late
45:26
So it's going to be tough
45:28
But I would hope that the
45:30
Noise in there on defense will make it challenging
45:32
For the Arizona
45:34
We need 18 to get that ball
45:36
It's going to be fun, everyone's going to be
45:38
Excited to be back
45:40
In US Bank Stadium
45:42
Let's go
45:44
Scull it up, scull to the bull
45:46
Rob, who you got?
45:48
I'm predicting
45:50
Straight W's for the purple
45:52
They are going to
45:54
Play a very competitive game
45:56
Actually the Cardinals are going to be
45:58
I think a little tougher, I'm with you on this aspect
46:00
Kyler is a tough
46:02
Individual to contain
46:04
Toughie, especially against pressure
46:06
Style defense, blitzes
46:08
Is where he can kind of sneak and be
46:10
A headache, so I think
46:12
We're going to see a little more sitting back
46:14
On, you know, maybe third
46:16
Down pressures, but I think we're going to
46:18
Sit back a little bit more on defense
46:20
Which is going to drive Vikings fans
46:22
Absolutely nuts, especially if
46:24
He gets something going
46:26
You got to be careful, because if we're
46:28
Sending the house and he gets outside that
46:30
Well, he's fast enough to take it to the house
46:32
Exactly, he's a game changer, he can make game changing
46:34
Plays, you know, so that's why I think
46:36
We're going to sit back a little bit and it's going to
46:38
Drive Vikings fans absolutely nuts
46:40
Just let it play out in the first half
46:42
See what happens, feel it out, it's a feel out
46:44
Exactly, especially in the first half
46:46
If we can keep them to a couple field goals
46:48
Under, let's say under 14 points
46:50
I'm going to call that a win
46:52
And then it's just our offense
46:54
Not making any dumb mistakes
46:56
And we should be able to take care of them pretty easy
46:58
For sure, for sure, everybody picking
47:00
Vikings so far in our points here
47:02
That's not a surprise
47:04
Miami
47:06
Traveling to the Green Bay Packers
47:08
This one's a little bit more interesting
47:10
A lot of people
47:12
Up here seem to think Miami's going to make the playoffs
47:14
Ooh
47:16
They've been listening team
47:18
They need to continue this
47:20
Win here. What's their record right now?
47:22
Miami? Ooh, five and six
47:24
Five and six. Not out of it
47:26
Who do you got Rachel? You know what
47:28
I want Miami to win for my
47:30
Selfish Viking reasons so
47:32
So far I have two Miamis and four
47:34
Packers. Ooh, let's go
47:36
I mean they're hot right now, it's bringing the heat
47:38
To Green Bay. Ooh, bringing the heat
47:40
To Green Bay, Miami
47:42
Over the Packers
47:44
I like it, I like it a lot
47:46
Jake, what you got?
47:48
Um, I'm torn
47:50
No, this one's kind of tough
47:52
It is tough. It is a hard one
47:54
Um
47:56
I'm going to
47:58
Say I've been leaning it
48:00
But so I'm going to say it's going to be
48:02
He's been thinking about it for the whole week
48:04
Dolphins
48:08
Ruthless
48:10
I'm going to take Dolphins over the Packers
48:12
That a boy
48:14
Dolphins over the Pack
48:16
The Dolphins are getting healthy right now
48:18
And they're still really fast
48:20
On the ends
48:22
With their wide receivers
48:24
And Green Bay is going to be challenged with keeping up
48:26
With that
48:28
Going with the Dolphins, uh, uh
48:34
Are you nervous?
48:36
Yeah, because I'm going to go with the Packers
48:38
Do you want to go first?
48:40
Nope, I just went, and I was thinking the Dolphins all
48:42
All day, I just picked these games before
48:44
We started. I've been thinking about the
48:46
Dolphins for the past hour and a half
48:48
Five minutes, 30 seconds
48:50
Because I thought, you know, I'm thinking
48:52
For sure that they're also
48:54
You know, making a charge for the playoffs
48:56
I'm still not sold that they can make the playoffs
48:58
What I'm sold on is what I saw
49:00
From Josh Jacobs last week
49:02
And I'm not sold on the Dolphins being able to contain him
49:04
At home in Green Bay
49:08
Missing Jair Alexander is going to be a thing
49:10
Missing McKinney would be a thing for the Packers
49:12
Now we're talking about flipping
49:14
The other side now
49:16
No, I'm not flipping it, I'm going with the Packers
49:18
And I really thought I was going to go Miami here
49:20
No, you are though, you can feel it
49:22
It's done, it's in there
49:24
The Finns up
49:26
Is that a thing? Finns up
49:28
It is now
49:30
Is that what you're heading to?
49:32
What are you, a cop? That's a lot of questions
49:36
That's your Vikings Dolphins fan mix
49:38
You're like Skull, Finns
49:40
God dang it
49:42
Who you got? Miami
49:44
The Finns
49:46
The Finns, they're making the playoffs
49:48
I think the absence of the two
49:50
Guys on the back end
49:52
Doesn't be the difference
49:54
I think the defense and their plan
49:56
They're vibing right now down in Miami
49:58
They got their quarterback back
50:00
Two wins in a row
50:02
That AFC is open to make the playoffs
50:04
So they got everything to play for
50:06
So I'm missing
50:08
Two people's picks out of our
50:10
Continuous people that are picking here
50:12
Not including Mike, Mike get your picks from me homie
50:16
We're five and five right now in this game
50:18
Without Matt and
50:20
The other five
50:26
All three picked Miami
50:28
Why am I packing up the package
50:30
You really want to change that
50:32
Don't you? No I don't
50:34
Philly traveling to Baltimore
50:36
Jake you're last
50:38
Everybody's picking the Eagles so far
50:40
Other than Dan
50:42
Dan's leading right now at 14
50:44
And one record
50:46
Daniel
50:48
Zep from last week
50:50
Who did he pick?
50:52
I just didn't get the score in there for Ravens and Chargers
50:54
But right now
50:56
Who'd Dan pick?
50:58
Dan picked the Ravens
51:00
Everybody else so far has picked the Eagles
51:02
Ben, Tyler, Graham, Trey
51:04
Dom
51:06
Who you got?
51:08
I'll go first with you now since you're asking the most questions
51:10
I'm going to Eagles
51:12
I'm on the Eagles train
51:14
Because Barkley needs two 55
51:16
Challenge again for my fantasy team
51:18
So we're just continuing in that
51:20
Train right now
51:22
Talk about a test for that defense
51:24
It's going to be both games but like
51:26
The Ravens defense I don't think is going to be able to
51:28
Slow down the Eagles offense
51:30
It could be
51:32
A 35-24
51:34
Game you know or even higher
51:36
A little closer but
51:38
I think at the end of the day
51:40
The Eagles has just been like just pounding the ball
51:42
All day long
51:44
Second half, Barkley's
51:46
He's had two, three
51:48
Second halves in a row now
51:50
Where he's had 100, 150 yards
51:52
In the second half
51:54
They're just, yeah
51:56
Exactly, you know how it's going
51:58
Rachel
52:00
Eagles at Baltimore
52:02
I'm going to ask Jake a question
52:04
Is there rushing defense?
52:06
It's obviously better than
52:08
Their secondary for the Ravens
52:10
So I'm thinking
52:12
That might have something to do with it
52:14
But I just
52:16
Jalen Hurts may just have to throw the ball
52:18
More and we know he can so they got
52:20
Both of those things going on
52:22
Offense, the Ravens just
52:24
If you got a quarterback that can just
52:26
Kill you with his arm
52:28
Or his legs
52:30
I guess I'm going to lean towards the Eagles this one
52:32
It wouldn't mind if the Ravens
52:34
Took them down because that would
52:36
Still help my Vikings
52:38
So I'm going to pick
52:40
I'm going to pick Eagles and
52:42
You win either way
52:44
You win either way
52:46
If they lose it's for the Vikings
52:48
It's all about moral victories here
52:50
That's our passive
52:52
Aggressive
52:54
Man, I'm going to go with Ravens
52:56
And it's
52:58
Because I screwed up on my pick last week
53:00
Obviously picking the Rams over the Eagles
53:02
Everybody went Eagles, I wanted to be different
53:04
That was dumb
53:06
And most people are picking Eagles this week
53:08
But
53:10
Saquon's not going for 250
53:12
This week, he's just not, that was ridiculous
53:14
270, sorry, whatever
53:16
Sorry, yeah
53:18
But
53:20
I don't know, I think they come back down to Earth
53:22
A little bit, it's
53:24
If Baltimore's for real about making a run in the playoffs
53:26
I think this is a must
53:28
Have game for them, just to show a
53:30
Force, literally
53:32
Just to show that, hey we can take
53:34
Anybody right now because the Eagles are hot
53:36
Hot, hot, hot, and I don't know
53:38
I think Derrick Henry's going to be able to
53:40
Show that he's also
53:42
In consideration for the best running back in the league
53:44
So this is your Bills versus
53:46
The Chiefs pick from a couple weeks ago
53:48
A little bit, a little bit, I think Raven's got to
53:50
Have it, you know, Raven's got to have this
53:52
One, so yeah, let me put it in here so I can't
53:54
Change it, Raven's, boop, there it is
53:56
Delete, just kidding
53:58
Jake
54:00
Alright
54:02
Is he going to pick
54:04
Against the Ravens right now?
54:06
With a Rashad Bateman helmet in front of him?
54:08
So two weeks ago
54:10
It was Steelers-Ravens
54:12
And I picked against the Ravens
54:14
Because I was just like, he did
54:16
I told
54:18
Smelty, I was like, I believe the Ravens
54:20
Are going to split with the Steelers this year
54:22
It'll be tough, so last game of the season
54:24
I think we've got Steelers
54:26
Or maybe it's Christmas, whatever
54:28
No, Christmas is the losing game
54:30
I'm making things up
54:32
This is
54:34
A really good game because both
54:36
Of these offenses
54:38
Are very similar to each
54:40
Other, so
54:42
The difference is going to be how the
54:44
Front four, how those defensive lines
54:46
Hold up against the front
54:48
And
54:50
The Eagles have the advantage there
54:52
I believe, it goes through
54:54
Their defense, goes through Jalen
54:56
Carter, and
54:58
Who's the other clown? Williams
55:00
I think is the other
55:02
Graham
55:04
He tore a
55:06
Like a tricep or something, so he's out for the season now
55:08
Is he? Yeah
55:10
This last week? Yeah
55:12
No, but
55:14
Those two defensive tackles are going to
55:16
Really put a lot of pressure on
55:18
On the Ravens offensive line, so that's where
55:20
That's where the game is going to be won and lost
55:22
Did he pick yet?
55:24
No, I haven't
55:26
So what's going to
55:28
Happen is
55:30
The winner of the game is going to be
55:32
Determined by Saquon Barkley and Derek
55:34
Henry going out to midfield and just having
55:36
A fist fight
55:38
An arm wrestle? No, a fist fight
55:40
And whoever wins is going to win the game
55:42
Because that's really what this is going to be
55:44
A fist fight between two really strong
55:46
Offenses and defensive lines
55:48
All that said, I'm still going to pick
55:50
The Eagles
55:52
What?
55:54
We both heard
55:56
Ravens and then we computed
55:58
No, he did say Eagles
56:00
Wow
56:02
I'm deaf in one ear, but I'm pretty sure
56:04
I heard that
56:06
For the sake of the pick, I love it
56:08
I like your honesty and integrity
56:10
I love it, I love it
56:12
Alright, Jake going with the Eagles, so at the moment
56:14
There's only two people that picked Ravens
56:16
So we won't repeat who they were
56:18
Moving on
56:20
Steelers traveling to
56:22
The Ravens are totally winning now
56:24
You know, I'm going to take that
56:26
I'd rather be wrong here
56:28
Sorry
56:30
Steelers traveling to the Bengals
56:32
Right now we got one
56:34
Two, three Steelers
56:36
And two Bengals at the moment
56:44
I'm going to go Bengals because I think they're making
56:46
A charge to try to make the playoffs
56:48
I'm going to go with
56:50
TJ Watt is going to be out
56:52
With a strained
56:54
Ego and won't be able to play this week
56:56
Against the Bengals, so Bengals win
56:58
This game
57:00
That's back to what the question I asked earlier, you said Bengals
57:02
Right? Out of the three teams I said
57:04
That were going to make the playoffs
57:06
In a very hard division
57:08
It was going to be a tough game
57:10
I'm going to go Cincy with you
57:12
I think Cincy is
57:14
You look
57:16
Statistically on
57:18
Offense, I mean they're still
57:20
Top five in the league
57:22
And I think they're starting to get a little bit
57:24
Warm, I think that defense is slowly
57:26
Getting, they're not great
57:28
And Hendrickson
57:30
Leads the league in sacks, but I don't think
57:32
He's a difference maker, it's almost like
57:34
Remember when we were talking about Daniel Hunter
57:36
Last year, he had a ton of sacks
57:38
But it didn't feel like he got them
57:40
When they mattered, you know
57:42
So like
57:44
That's kind of that season for them, but I'm going Cincy
57:46
Okay, okay, you're going Cincy
57:48
Rachel
57:50
Steelers at Bengals
57:52
You know what, I like Joe Burrow
57:54
He's playing really well this year, he's got
57:56
Some of his best statistics of his
57:58
Career, and
58:00
If they're defense, they don't have to do that
58:02
Much, because the Steelers offense doesn't
58:04
Do that much, so if they can
58:06
Just
58:08
You know, keep
58:10
The secondary strong, I think they have a chance
58:12
To win the game
58:14
With their offense, so
58:16
I don't think they have to do that much
58:18
I agree, I think they need
58:20
The Steelers defense to make a couple of
58:22
Mistakes though, because that Steelers defense is
58:24
They're gamblers though, they're
58:26
A defense that can make
58:28
Mistakes, they gamble, you know, you just
58:30
Gotta get them
58:32
Well you got
58:34
Big division matchup
58:36
Steelers
58:38
This is really a tough week for you to make
58:40
These picks, isn't it? It is, it is a tough week
58:42
It's like
58:44
It's like you're twisting
58:46
Your own knife, this is weird
58:48
To watch
58:50
Can they tie?
58:52
Can I get the tie please?
58:54
For bonus points?
58:56
Yeah, no
58:58
Yeah
59:00
The Cincinnati Bengals offense is
59:02
Really good, but Mike Tomlin
59:04
That Steelers defense
59:06
When they're facing high powered offenses
59:08
They always find a way to slow
59:10
Them down, look what they did
59:12
Look what they did to Baltimore and the Ravens
59:14
But it's in Cincy
59:16
Doesn't matter, defense travels
59:18
Ooh
59:20
Doesn't matter
59:22
Eww
59:24
Jamar J is here
59:26
Yeah, I mean
59:28
Jamar J has put up over 203
59:30
Tuddies and they still lost
59:32
To the Ravens
59:34
It's not gonna happen this time
59:36
LA Chargers
59:38
Traveling to the Atlanta Falcons, we haven't
59:40
Talked about the Falcons for a while
59:42
The last time we talked about the Falcons
59:44
They were doing pretty well
59:46
They've dropped a couple, they are coming off a buy
59:48
At home
59:50
Chargers coming off a loss on a Monday night
59:52
Chargers coming off a loss, maybe no J.K.
59:54
Dobbins, I wonder if there's an update
59:56
On J.K., no I gotta know
59:58
But anyway
1:00:00
Rachel, who you got in this one?
1:00:02
You know what, I think
1:00:04
This is tough, Atlanta is so
1:00:06
Hot and cold, I don't
1:00:08
Know what they are, they really are
1:00:10
What I'm gonna get, and I don't care that much
1:00:12
So
1:00:14
Yeah
1:00:16
I'd like to see them lose, I'm gonna pick the Chargers
1:00:18
They won four in a row
1:00:20
They lost last week, so
1:00:22
Revenge game
1:00:24
I like Jim Harbaugh, yes let's go
1:00:26
Let's get this young squad hot
1:00:28
We need more NFC teams losing
1:00:30
Anyway, so let's just, that's why I'm picking
1:00:32
Chargers
1:00:34
Fair enough, so you're picking with your heart
1:00:36
At the moment, everybody is taking
1:00:38
Chargers other than Dan
1:00:40
Again, our leader, going with Atlanta
1:00:42
Interesting
1:00:44
I am also gonna take the Chargers
1:00:46
I think they bounce back from that L
1:00:48
And I just might as well
1:00:50
Take them, since I did wear the jersey this week
1:00:52
Obviously I'm a Skoll to the Bull fan
1:00:54
But, I don't care why everyone's in love with them
1:00:56
With who? The Chargers
1:00:58
I don't get it
1:01:00
I think J.K. Dobbins will end up playing
1:01:02
Six wins against losing teams
1:01:04
No
1:01:06
No, it's who they have
1:01:08
Who that rosters, it's
1:01:10
They're in love with, no not even
1:01:12
They're in love, they are cool
1:01:14
They're in love with how the Chargers look on paper
1:01:16
That's the thing
1:01:18
The same color paper as the Chargers
1:01:20
This guy over here
1:01:22
What's your affinity for the Chargers?
1:01:24
Why do I like them?
1:01:26
That was LaDani and Tomlinson's fault
1:01:28
Because LaDani and Tomlinson
1:01:30
Looked really good in powder blue
1:01:32
Yeah, they did
1:01:34
Him and Antonio Gates
1:01:36
Alright, so I'm going to make my pick
1:01:38
Since LaDani and Tomlinson's not
1:01:40
Playing this game
1:01:42
I'm going to go with
1:01:44
The Atlanta Falcons and who I picked to win
1:01:46
The division
1:01:48
I think Kirkos coming hard
1:01:50
Robinson's going to
1:01:52
It's a winnable game for them
1:01:54
I think, you know, off a bye week
1:01:56
They kind of got embarrassed two weeks ago
1:01:58
So I think they're coming out
1:02:00
I think Atlanta's going to prove
1:02:02
That they're going to win that division in the south
1:02:04
And take it by the reins
1:02:06
Atlanta taking it by the reins
1:02:08
6-5 Atlanta, right?
1:02:10
See, they have a winning record
1:02:12
So that means the Chargers can't beat them
1:02:14
So the Chargers have a winning record too
1:02:16
Against losing teams
1:02:18
But that wasn't the same argument for Atlanta
1:02:20
Is that Atlanta's
1:02:22
We're not getting into that
1:02:24
Jake, Jake, Jake
1:02:26
Alright, we're going to wrap this up strong
1:02:28
At home, even though they're 3-3
1:02:30
The question of J.K. Dobbins and his
1:02:32
Condition is going to be tough
1:02:34
Obviously we
1:02:36
All saw that the Chargers lost something
1:02:38
Once Dobbins 100%
1:02:40
Left the game
1:02:42
So we're all picking the Chargers
1:02:44
Yeah, Falcons have
1:02:46
I think Falcons have better tools at Kirk Cousins
1:02:48
Disposal in just being at home
1:02:50
And then I saw an article that
1:02:52
The Falcons are
1:02:54
Going to try coming out of the
1:02:56
Defy to do more play action
1:02:58
Which is something that they haven't
1:03:00
Been doing, right? They should have been doing
1:03:02
Right, they should have been doing with Bijan
1:03:04
They've done it a little bit
1:03:06
We talked about this week one in the pistol
1:03:08
And then they got rid of the pistol
1:03:10
They didn't listen to us
1:03:12
Maybe they should be listening to us
1:03:14
I was watching K.K.
1:03:16
We've stared at Kirk Cousins for 5 years
1:03:18
We know he's one of the best play action
1:03:20
Quarterbacks in the league
1:03:22
And you have Bijan
1:03:24
I still won't change my answer
1:03:26
So I'm picking Falcons
1:03:30
Fair enough
1:03:32
Kev, if you can, why don't you
1:03:34
Put that thing back up there for us
1:03:36
Yeah
1:03:38
So if you take a look there
1:03:40
Dan leading us right now
1:03:42
With a 14-1 record
1:03:44
With a 933 save percentage
1:03:46
Hockey
1:03:48
Win percentage
1:03:50
Rachel coming in at second right now
1:03:52
With an 800 win percentage
1:03:54
Tyler
1:03:56
Tyler, our season leader
1:03:58
So far for multiple weeks now
1:04:00
In third at the moment
1:04:02
With a 711
1:04:04
Slippin'
1:04:06
Not even
1:04:08
32-13 record
1:04:10
That's pretty nice
1:04:12
I just feel it's getting wintery
1:04:14
Jake coming in at fourth right now
1:04:16
With a 683 win percentage
1:04:18
Ben at fifth with a
1:04:20
660 win percentage
1:04:22
And you got Robert
1:04:24
What did I say before?
1:04:26
Fifth, right? I didn't put numbers in here
1:04:28
So sixth with a 650 win percentage
1:04:30
What comes after five?
1:04:32
Trey in seventh with a 640 win percentage
1:04:34
I haven't heard your name yet
1:04:36
Eighth is Smelty
1:04:38
With a 633 win percentage
1:04:40
Ouch
1:04:42
Ninth is Matt with a 611 right now
1:04:44
Tied for tenth
1:04:46
Graham and Cody with a 611
1:04:48
percentage right now
1:04:50
And then you got Dom bringing up the rear
1:04:52
At 467
1:04:54
At the moment
1:04:56
So Dom looking for another big week here
1:04:58
He went three and two this week
1:05:00
So it's a winning record
1:05:02
Hey, in the comments, throw out your guys' picks
1:05:04
Let's throw it out there
1:05:06
They're probably going to be like, I'd pick different games
1:05:08
What do we say to that?
1:05:10
Well, it's easy to pick the easy games
1:05:12
Come on the show? I don't know
1:05:14
Exactly
1:05:16
But Rachel, it's been a blessing
1:05:18
Thanks for being here for the last two weeks
1:05:20
Have you had fun
1:05:22
Last week maybe
1:05:24
I've had a blast bantering with you boys
1:05:26
Good, good
1:05:28
We're happy to have you, maybe we'll see you again this season
1:05:30
Never know
1:05:32
Playoffs
1:05:34
Playoffs
1:05:36
And then Jake
1:05:38
Jake, welcome back
1:05:40
Thanks for being on the show again
1:05:42
Yeah, yeah it is
1:05:44
And your team's still relevant
1:05:46
They are
1:05:48
I like the purple, you got the purple and the gold
1:05:50
You can fit in with us anytime
1:05:52
Go Cravens, did you see that commercial last night?
1:05:54
No, go Cravens
1:05:56
Was it for the Crave?
1:05:58
No, for the Marvel movie Craven
1:06:00
I know, it's kind of a stretch
1:06:02
But check it out
1:06:04
It's funny and dumb
1:06:06
Shameless plug
1:06:08
And then next to me of course
1:06:10
Last but not least
1:06:12
For last but always least, Rob
1:06:14
It's been fun, I love it
1:06:16
It's go time right now
1:06:18
It's the best time of the year
1:06:20
As a Vikings fan I feel like we're already in the playoffs
1:06:22
But it's trying to still win that division title
1:06:24
Every game matters
1:06:26
It does still
1:06:28
With that obviously once again I'm smelting
1:06:30
Here every week
1:06:32
With Rob for the rest of the season
1:06:34
Yeah, with that
1:06:36
Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe
1:06:38
And we'll see you next time
1:06:40
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1:06:44
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And don't forget, Happy Thanksgiving this week
1:06:50
Happy Thanksgiving
1:06:52
See you guys next week