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01/22/2024 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Chris Miller, Chris Pritt, Dr. Jessi Troyan · The Dave Allen Show

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I don't know what the announcement is. You'll find out what I do.
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Also, coming up a little bit later on, we have the Jesse
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doctor Jesse Troy and from the Cardinal Institute as well. So I hope everybody
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survived the snow and all the junk. It's it's out of here, they
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say. But if you're traveling this morning, main roads obviously are in very
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good shape, but the back roads not so much. This morning. That's
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gonna be melting the way though. I'm not a meteorologist, nor do I
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play one on television, but just saying that things are starting to look up
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a little bit. Well to Welcome to the show right now, Chris Miller,
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who is a candidate for governor in the state of West Virginia. Good
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morning, sir, How are you. I'm all out of bubblegum Dave,
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Yes, indeed you are. A time you know that that plays. I
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always think of you for some reason. I don't know why. It just
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it just seems like something that you would do as an intro as opposed to
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me. I dig it, I dig it. It gets fired up every
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single time I get to listen to your show. I appreciate you listening.
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So how's the campaign been so far. It's been an absolute blast, traveling
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all around the state and getting meet everybody. You know, the really fun
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thing about West Virginia is the absolute best thing about our state of the people.
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And that's just it's been so great for me to go around the state
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and meet as many people as I possibly can. And the other funny thing
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is, you're gonna laugh at this, but West Virginia we might be more
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tribal than Afghanistan. We've got like fifty five counties all separated by mountains,
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and fifty five different cultures and different types of people. Like it. It's
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fantastic to actually watch and see. It really is. When I use the
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term, and I've been taken to task by some of my listeners, I'd
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say West Virginia is a very diverse state. And they text and they said,
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what are you talking about? It? To a diverse could you get
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any more different than Martinsburg and welch oh right or yeah, or Williamson and
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Wheeling or Charleston in Charlestown. Everywhere's different and the people though, are still
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the same, Like we're still just a good old fashioned, you know,
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god fearing family, loving group of people. And that's one of the best
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things about the states is that it doesn't matter if you got a lot or
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little. People will bring you in their home and feed you in West Virginia.
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And you know, heck, if your tesla breaks down during in the
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coal fields, miners will come out of a mountain and push your tesla to
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a coal power generator to make sure you got enough power to get on down
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the road. And no matter how bad those cars really are. I mean,
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that's the best thing about our state is the people. I saw you
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had some TV ads run now, I saw those last week, and I
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think that's probably an advantage you're gonna have over the other Republicans in the state
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because you are no stranger to the camera. You know, the others all
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have experience in front of the camera as well, but not quite as much
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as you do. Chris Well. You know, people can see who you
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are and see how you sound and understand what you're really gonna be like through
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television, and that's one of the neat things about that medium. It's kind
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of like radio. You know, we're here talking. It leads a lot
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to the imagination people are. You know, they have to pay attention and
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listen television you get a little bit of imagery and sound. So it's just
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it's one of those meetings we've been using for a really, really long period
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of time, and I'm totally comfortable with it. And it's also it's authentic,
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right, so you know we're gonna have a great time with it.
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So today's a big day for you. You start off here and then you're
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headed down the street. Is that right? We are headed to the capitol
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to go file our official papers to run for governor of the state of West
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Virginia. And here with me is my wife, Cassie. By the way,
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she's kind of sitting here on the sidelines. But aside from marrying my
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wife, it would be the honor of my lifetime to be selected as the
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next governor of the great state of West by God, Virginia. And if
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you have I've always asked the other candidates, says, if you are elected
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governor West Virginia, will you reside at the capitol? Oh? Yeah,
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absolutely absolutely. It's part of the state's constitution and it's an onn starter already
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measuring the drapes and everything. We will not be wasting any money at all
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the boxing ring inside for the time. We're not going to do anything fancy
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inside of that place. But hey, if I got to pay to,
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you know, use my own money to bring in a boxering to make sure
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I stand in shape, I don't see a problem with that. They used
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to say when Joe Manchin was the governor that if they had an issue,
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that mansion would order some pizzas from Gino's, get a case of beer,
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and just have everybody come over. I could see you reaching out to the
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other side, but instead of that, I could see you probably ordering protein
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drinks. But I could also all of the above, right, whatever makes
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you happy. But I can see you put in a boxing ring and they
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saying, we're going to work this out. There's lots of ways to persuade
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people, and so we've got to figure out what the most effective ways are.
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But really, at the end of the day, it's about bringing people
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together and solving problems. And that's what a leader does. And that's one
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of the things that I'm most excited about is actually be able to work with
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everybody, provide twelve hours of work every single day with a bunch of energy
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to make sure that everything gets done that needs to get done for the people,
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because that's what we all forget about, is that elections and governing at
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the end of the day, is not about the political class. It's about
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the voters, and it's about the people. And we have an obligation to
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make sure and provide a better product for the taxpayers. And that's why I'm
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running. We've got problems to solve and their solutions. Chris, as you're
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traveling the state talking to prospective voters, what are you listening for? I'd
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say that because I'm a big believer that sometimes when people are campaigning for office,
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of course it's important for you to tell your story, but it's just
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as important to listen. So what are you hearing as you traveled all these
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places? You know, the most important things to people are in West Virginia
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a little bit worried about the crazy, woke stuff that's happening all around the
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country, and they want to make sure that that does not infiltrate infiltrate here.
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They're also worried about the cost of a gallon of gas and the cost
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of a gallon of milk, and they're also one of the most important things
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in the hearts and the minds of the people of the West Virginia is to
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make sure that we have an economy that provides jobs, to make sure that
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our greatest export is not our kids, because right now, our greatest export
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is not our coal, and it's not our natural gas. Our greatest export
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are our kids. And the way to fix that is to make sure that
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we have an economy that thrives, that provides jobs and provides employment and provides
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opportunity. And all you have to do is really understand how economics and how
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job creation works, change some of the rules to the playing field, make
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ourselves more favorable to do business, and then work, roll up your sleeves
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and work. And when we start doing that stuff, all these things are
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going to start happening. But at the end of the day, I mean,
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that's the biggest thing. It's grandparents, it's parents, it's everybody that
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have watched their kids leave. Our state been declining in population for way too
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long, and we have to fix that. And we have to fix that
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right now because everything that we do in the future, every problem that we
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face, gets solved by just growing our state's population, by growing our economy,
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and it all trickles into what happens with the tax base. Tax base
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grows, government can provide better services. The tax base grows through economic growth
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and development, We've got way more opportunity for our people when it comes to
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jobs and employment. Then you start thinking about how that affects businesses, workers,
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comp modifiers go down, cost of healthcare goes down, the lives of
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people get improved. And it really starts and ends with managing and running an
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economy and doing what I've done my entire life. I'm an outsider. I've
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never been involved in politics before. I've made my entire career building a bunch
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of businesses, and we employ seven hundred and fifty people. We're in five
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different states, but we're also heavily invested in West Virginia. And I'm tired
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of sitting back and watching politicians say all kinds of stuff and do nothing at
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the end of the day. And we have to act. We have to
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act right now. West Virginia has this incredibly rare window of opportunity where we
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could do something special. You know, you look at the history of our
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state. We've been extracted. They've taken our coal, they've taken our natural
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gas, we have a lot to show for it. When you add all
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that up, with all the water and all the lumber in our state,
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there's no reason why West Virginia can't be one of the richest states per capital
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in the country. We just have to manage it more like a business.
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We have to manage government more like a business. We got to negotiate the
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right way because I've seen bad deal after bad deal happen because we don't have
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the best negotiators on the front line making sure the deals are getting done properly.
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And so it's just rolling up your sleeves and getting to work and provide
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an element of professionalism running state government more like a business and being a hard
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charger and getting stuff done because we've seen what politicians do, and we've also
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seen what happens when business guys get involved. When business guys get involved,
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stuff gets done better. And that's why I'm here talking to Chris Milder again,
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what I was watching the forum conducted by Metro News moderated a hoppy in
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Morgantown. Back in December, you stated that you'd like to eliminate the state
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income tax. Yeah, in day one. How do you plan on getting
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that accomplished? So if we look at what the job is, the job
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is to grow the economy, and the job is to grow the population to
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solve the financial challenges that we're facing. We know by fact that three of
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the four fastest growing states post pandemic or Tennessee, Texas, in Florida,
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and they all have one thing in common that's a zero state income tax.
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And so it's something we've got. There's a plan in place to accelerate it
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out. We need to accelerate even faster and get it down to zero as
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fast as humanly possible. We have to. That's one of the main triggers.
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Because what happens is capital flows like water to the places that it's most
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welcome. And when the Trump tax cuts hit, they got rid of the
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salt deduction. So it used to be if you lived in a high tax
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you were able to deduct all your state level taxes from your federal ticket before
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you sent your check in. Well, the rates went down, but those
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deductions went away, and so people with money and people that are looking at
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doing something different or sitting here looking and going, this is where I'm going
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to go and take all my money in jobs and resources because they have a
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zero state income tax, so we have to and the offset of that population
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growth and the increase in what that does for all the different transactions, all
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the different business growth, and all the different activity literally winds up doing a
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better job of running the state treasury than having high taxes and low economic participation.
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So it's just how you think about the problem and what you've got to
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do to fix it. What do you make going back to that form,
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What do you make of the fact that Attorney General Patrick Morris he opted not
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to take part. I don't know what today on that one. I mean,
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he's coming to the next one, so he must have had a scheduling
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conflict or something. But you know most of the time somebody like me.
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I'm going to be involved in as many things as I absolutely, positively,
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positively can be because I think at the end of the day, elects actions
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are not about me. They're not about politicians. They're about the voters,
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and the voters need to hear from you, So you have an obligation.
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The governor is the CEO of the state and his job is to lead provide
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economic growth and development and also be a promoter of the state and also help
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manage the state's finances. And that's not a job that you can just not
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show up for. That's not a job that you just go I'm not going
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to interact over there and ignore those people. So that's just not me.
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I'm going to show up to everything. I'm going to be there, and
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I'm gonna actively be part of it. And guess what, there is no
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one running that is going to be of an outwork me either. I will
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work seventy hours a week to make sure the state of West Virginia is the
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absolute best that it possibly can be. I'll show up. What have you
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been watching at the legislature so far this session? I know you're busy running
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a campaign traveling all over the state, But is there anything that's kind of
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caught your eyes so far. It's going to be interesting to see what happens
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with addressing the foster care system. We have a dilapidated foster care system in
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our state. There's a lot of additional underfunding stuff when it comes to the
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epiaate epidemic. Those things are really important to me. The other thing that
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I'm tracking, it's making sure that we're looking at any and every chance to
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reduce any sort of tax or regulatory burden on business to businesses to make sure
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that we are ready and able to grow the state's economy and bring businesses to
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the state of West Virginia. Where can people learn more about your campaign?
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So you can go to millerfrogov dot com. You can check us out Chris
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Miller for Governor on Facebook, and we're also on Twitter and Instagram, and
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you know we've got a YouTube page too. You can check out all of
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our information on any of those locations, but start with Miller for Gov and
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everything is right there. We are actively out going all over the state.
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We'd love to hear from you. We have a rapidly growing volunteer base,
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which has just been absolutely amazing. We get a place where people can go
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to sign up to be a volunteer, and it's crazy. What's happened is
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we've ramped up this campaign. We've heard from all these different people from all
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around the state and they're really really excited because they want something different and they're
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tired of politicians and they want to get behind a business guy that actually wants
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to lead an inspuyer and make change inside of West Virginia. Chris Miller,
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a Republican candidate for governor, say to West Virginia, as always, I
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zero zero eight. I would be remis if I did not say welcome back
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to Chris Lawrence. Chris and Chris seems to be like the common name around
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this place today. But Chris has been off for about four weeks. He
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had hip replacement surgery. Maybe his return over the weekend at the West Virginia
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Hunting and Fish and so over a the Kyble Seam and convention centers. So
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great to have Chris back in the morning news course. The team did a
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bigger, better, stronger, faster. So welcome back, mister Lawrence.
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Texas. Don't forget Chris Miller's mom, Representative Carrol Miller, took out
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and was forgiven three million dollars in PPP loans to prop up their car lots.
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The government handing out money at that time without oversight because the Trump caused
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the inflation. Today and there was quote physical conservative Carol Miller with her hands
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out, I'm voting that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, says
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a textra Coming up a little bit later on Jesse Troy, Doctor Jesse troyan
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from the Cardinal Institute, will be stopping, but I want to welcome to
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the show now Delegate and candidate for West Virginia Secretary of State Chris Printz.
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Good morning, sir, How are you good morning? Doing well? Just
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another Chris. We're adding to the lineup today. Man, you're following Chris
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Miller, of course, all right, so let's cut straight to it.
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You texted me, I think it was last week or maybe the week before,
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and you said you wanted to come on the show to break a big
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story. So Hi and all of Dave Nation our ears this morning. What
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you got Okay, Dave, Well, thank you so much for having me
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on. And I'm stating it here. First, I'm going to be running
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for the West Virginia State Senate. Okay, So does this mean that you're
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out as the candate for Secretary of State. That's right. I gave it
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some thought, and I had done some folks that I talked to, and
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I had some discussions about how I can be most effective, and I concluded
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that the way that I can be most effective with my skill set is being
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in the West Virginia State Senate. So I gave it some thought, I
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prayed about it, I talked with my family, and we decided collectively that
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running for the state Senate is the way I can have the most impact.
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I mean, I've got four years under my belt as a legislator. I
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can build upon those skills that I've built up as a member of the West
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Virginia House of Delegates and then take those skills and apply those skills in the
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West Virginia State Senate. Okay, And this district would be it's the seventeenth
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district. This district goes from parts of eastern Kanawa County, goes up to
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Elk View, parts of Cissonville, it gets South Hills and out towards Saint
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Albans. So it's a good chunk of the county. It's it's the one
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senatorial district that is completely within Kanawa County, Okay. And so yeah,
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it goes in those directions, and that encompasses a large part of what I've
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represented before. I mean I've represented largely eastern Kanawah County even southern Kanaal County
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in the past. So a good portion of what I already represent or have
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represented in the pastor prior to redistricting, it's encompassed within this district, Okay.
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And so you're going from in your you're currently serving as a House of
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Delegates members, So you're going to go from that much smaller number, going
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down from one hundred to thirty something in the in the state center. What
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kind of change will that be for you? Well, we have to get
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out and we have to campaign, and it's going to be different. I
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mean, in the past, I've really relied on grassroots support, folks helping
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me out. I don't think that's going to change. I think we have
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a lot of support out there a lot of people who are going to help
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me out and help get the message out. You do have to do things
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a little bit differently. Running in a state senate district versus running in a
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single member delegate district. I mean, you have to do things differently,
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but I think the fundamentals are the same. You reach out to people,
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you talk to people, you hear about the issues that are of a concern
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to them, and then you take those issues and you apply them in the
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legislature. It's the same general principle. It's just on a bigger scale.
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Let's talk about the sessions so far, and then we'll get back to your
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decision a little bit later on. Some in the Senate Chris, including Senate
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President Blair, Senator now candidate for Attorney General Mike Stewart, and others,
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have both stated their support of bringing back the death penalty, Blair more so
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for those dealing fentanyl, while Stewart seems to be primarily focused on those who
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would bring harm to a first responder, a police officer or whatever. Where
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are you on that on the death penalty. Look, one of the things
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that I think we have to do when it comes to any thing involving government
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is we have to make sure that we keep government as efficient as possible.
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Okay, And when I've looked at what it would take, for example,
21:10
to implement the death penalty, I mean, I think you can make a
21:12
pretty good case that it's an expansion of government. I mean, in terms
21:15
of the appeals, the cost everything like that. I think that we're talking
21:18
about a huge amount of expense that would be put towards that. And if
21:26
you consider all that and the costs that are involved in the appeals, I
21:30
don't think it's a good idea to start and implement the death penalty right now.
21:37
We don't have a history of that in West Virginia. We haven't had
21:40
it for many, many years, and so I'm not in favor of reinstituting
21:45
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the campaign trail, let's get back now again. The big announcement for Chris
22:12
Prith today he is leaving the race for Secretary of State and instead he's the
22:17
current House of Delegates membory. He's actually going to be run for state Senate
22:19
next time around. As you head out on the campaign trail, what do
22:22
you say to people many of you pointed out correctly, I already know you.
22:26
Obviously you've been there for a while. So as you head out and
22:30
you're knocking on doors, you're going to rallies or meet to candidate forms,
22:33
whatever, what do you say to those that would separate you from the other
22:37
people, because there are already other people that's declared for that that say what
22:41
sets you apart? What sets me apart is on many many issues, many
22:45
conservative issues. I've been a leader in the West Virginia Legislature, and the
22:49
feedback that I'm getting is that we are not taking the state in a more
22:53
conservative direction in a lot of ways. For example, we don't have a
22:57
ban on critical race there, Okay, that we have been talking about that
23:02
for years. There's no ban on that. We don't have a ban on
23:06
DEI and higher education. Okay, we allow to this day discrimination against public
23:11
school students who don't want to get vaccinated and their parents, let's say they
23:18
want to have a religious exemption for that, we allow for discrimination against those
23:23
parents and students. So on a number of issues right of that sort,
23:27
we are not applying those values to the legislature in terms of the legislation that
23:33
is being produced. I hear that time and time again, is that on
23:37
many of those issues, though, the West Virginia legislature is not producing consistent
23:41
with the will of the people. I mean, we voted for Donald Trump
23:45
more than any other state except for one, and we are on paper and
23:52
objectively at least the first or second most conservative state in the entire country.
23:56
Yet we're not producing in that sense. We're not produce U seeing strong conservative
24:02
legislation. And I keep hearing that over and over again that that we're not
24:07
producing in that sense. And I think what we need to be doing as
24:10
a state we need to be leading on some of those issues. For example,
24:14
we need to be leading on CRT or making sure that DEI is banned
24:18
at our higher institutions. I mean, these are market is so important to
24:22
you. Let me ask you that why why are these the critical race theory
24:26
and UH and the DEI? Why why are these things so important to you?
24:30
Because it has to do with the idea that we're going to be fundamentally
24:33
reshaping our country. And a lot of those values are rooted in Marxism,
24:38
okay, in an expansion of government, and I think those values undermine our
24:45
institutions, and I think that's what the goal of a lot of those programs
24:48
are. I mean, if you look at many other states that are far
24:51
less conservative than West Virginia, they have banned those things they have For example,
24:55
you have a CRT ban in many many other states, yet we don't
25:00
here in West Virginia. So I think the way that we're going to get
25:03
to where we need to be as a state, I mean, I would
25:06
like to see West Virginia to be a place where individuals come who hold similar
25:11
values to us. Like I know somebody who moved up here from Texas who
25:15
was friends with my sister and they had a choice between living in Ohio or
25:21
living in Parkersburg because he was going to be working there in the Parkersburg area,
25:26
and they homeschool based on our homeschool laws versus Ohio, they decided to
25:32
relocate and live in Ohio. And I think that's a problem, is when
25:37
we have individuals who I think probably share our values are relocating to other states.
25:42
I think we need to put an end to that. And I think
25:45
we can do that by enacting legislation that is consistent with the values of the
25:51
people of West Virginia. There's been a lot of talk about the financial aspect
25:55
of West Virginia. Delegate, and you know that we have the surplus whatever.
26:00
I know. The governor say to the state speech a couple of weeks
26:03
ago, he proposed to pay raise. Some in the Senate have said that
26:07
the money's just not there for everything that he's proposing. There's going to be
26:10
more rolled out on that today. I understand where are you on that?
26:12
Do you support pay raise for the governor? Not not for the governor,
26:18
I mean that the governor's talking about. Do you support pay raises for state
26:21
employees? I would yes. I mean, I think we've got the money
26:23
there. I think we've got the money there to help provide some incentives for
26:27
these individuals to come into the workforce. I mean, look, anytime you're
26:32
talking about pay, it has to do with incentivizing people to come and work
26:37
for the state. And oftentimes the pay isn't that much compared to the private
26:41
sector. Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. But we need to provide
26:45
an incentive to get folks to work in state government. And I think that's
26:48
one way we can do that. I mean, look, I think there's
26:51
money that we have for all sorts of things. I mean, I think
26:53
that would be probably a drop in the bucket, and I think we can
26:56
make sure that we help out the folks that are committed to helping move our
27:00
state forward, but at the same time also recruiting individuals to come into state
27:04
government. But I think there's room for that, and I think there's room
27:07
for further tax cuts too. I mean, I think that's one of the
27:10
things that I think we should prioritize. That's how we're going to help everyone
27:14
across the board, is with further reductions in the state income tax. I
27:18
think it helps small businesses. I think it helped larger businesses who might want
27:22
to expand here. They look at West Virginia and they say, look,
27:26
this is a state that takes tax cuts seriously. That's going to be a
27:29
good place to raise a family, and that's going to provide a good quality
27:34
of life here in the Mountain state. What I mean, and I don't
27:37
want to put words in your mouth, Chris, but what I'm kind of
27:41
hearing from you is that you think West Virginia is a conservative state but could
27:44
be more conservative as far as our elected officials go. Absolutely. Would you
27:48
extend that to the current holder of that office, Senator Nelson? Do you
27:52
think he's not conservative enough? Well, look, I'm not going to necessarily
27:56
go out and criticize anybody committed from whenever I decided to do this to run
28:03
a good, positive campaign. Let me just say this. I will say
28:07
that I will be running on my values, and I think I'm a conservative.
28:11
And look, that's for the voters to decide whether they agree with my
28:15
values or someone else's values to the extent that they differ. I mean,
28:19
there's a lot that he and I agree on, and I think there's some
28:22
things that we differ on, But nonetheless, I'm going to be talking about
28:26
my conservative values, and it's really up for the voters to decide whether that's
28:32
consistent with what they want to see in the West Virginia Senate. So the
28:34
announcement is made. Chris Print, Delegate Chris Print wants to be Senator,
28:38
Chris Pritt, and you will be running for state Senate, and you'll be
28:41
leaving the race for secretary of State. When you were out on the campaign
28:45
trail campaigning for secretary of state, meeting different people, what did you pick
28:48
up there that you think that maybe in meeting people or or different functions,
28:52
whatever, what did you learn from the whole experience running a statewide race for
28:56
a couple of months, I'll see you what. There's a lot of interest
28:59
in election integrity, especially after what happened in the twenty twenty election. Regardless
29:04
of what anybody thinks, there's a lot of interest in election integrity. And
29:08
I think there's some things that we can do there too, And I think
29:11
it has to happen legislatively. That's where it has to happen. I mean,
29:15
there are things that the Macwarner could not do because he was bound by
29:22
what the current law is. I mean, the job of the secretary of
29:25
State is to implement and execute the law the law whereas things had to get
29:30
done legislatively. I think there's a lot of interest in that. I think
29:33
there's a lot of things that we can do legislatively to promote election integrity,
29:38
because look, it's about making sure that people are encouraged to go out and
29:44
vote, and there are people out there that have been discouraged based on what
29:48
they saw or what was perceived to have happened in the twenty twenty election.
29:53
And everything we can do to make sure that people have faith in the system,
30:00
and I think most people largely do based on West Virginia the way we
30:04
handle our elections. But a lot of times what will happen is people in
30:08
West Virginia that I talked to were reacting to things that were happening in other
30:12
states like Arizona, and they were gaining a distrust of the system as a
30:18
whole based on what they saw in other states. And so that's largely what
30:22
I picked up when I was going around talking with folks across the state.
30:26
So where can people learn more about now your campaign for Senate? Do you
30:29
have to get a whole new website Orny think, or do you just have
30:30
one of those kind of you know, Chris Print for West Virginia kind of
30:33
things. It's really really simple. It's just www dot chrisprint dot com.
30:37
Very simply. There you go. You can put anything in there. You
30:40
can work in Wendy's or whatever if you want with that website. All right,
30:44
Chris, I wish you the best of luck again. Chris Print is
30:47
going to be now running for state Senate. Best of luck of the campaign.
30:48
We'll have you on again soon. Thanks a lot, Okay, all
30:51
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Texter doctor Jesse Troyd, and the car Cardinal Institute is with us. Stopped
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trying. Good morning, welcome to the show. Good morning. It's I'm
34:05
pleased to be back and looking forward to the weather finally being warm. Yes,
34:09
yes, I didn't used to bother me when I was younger, and
34:12
now that I'm in my fifty something, so I'm like, yeah, we
34:15
we got to get this out of here. But it is winter. It
34:19
is winter. It is January. We just happened to have it all in
34:21
a week. That was the problem. And it came in with a fury.
34:25
Yeah, it did, and it can leave with a fury too as
34:28
far as I'm concerned. All Right, So you guys are out with with
34:30
the new polling information talking about the Cardinal Institute that you asked to come on
34:32
to talk about. It's called the Dignity Project Plus. First, I want
34:38
to have you explained the nay, why is it called that? So with
34:42
the we've been interested in the low labor force participation rate in the state and
34:49
thinking about what are the reasons that are holding West Virginians back from fully engaging
34:53
in the workforce. And we're really inspired by this notion of this dignity of
35:00
earned success through work, that you make something with your own hands, you
35:06
achieved something you didn't think was possible before. And so that was really kind
35:12
of the heart and soul of this project. It's not just about increasing statistics
35:16
that look good. It's really about helping our fellow West Virginians rise to their
35:22
fullest potential and really really cultivate that notion of having the dignity of earned success
35:30
through work. Now, how was the polling done, who was contacted,
35:34
how did this whole thing where we'll get the results in a moment, I'm
35:36
always interested in how it was done though. Indeed, so we contracted with
35:40
a firm out of Nashville, Tennessee, Targo's Targo's Research, and they pulled
35:50
I think the final number was seven hundred and sixty five registered voters in West
35:54
Virginia. Kind of the makeup of the respondent's fair closely mirrored the sort of
36:01
voting population the voter breakdown in the twenty twenty election, and asked a bunch
36:08
of questions regarding the economy, what we think about the factors that are contributing
36:15
to West Virginia's low labor force participation rate, safety net programs, and possible
36:22
solutions or improvements to these. So a wide ranging set of poll questions that
36:30
are really getting a pulse on what West Virginians see as the issues and the
36:37
challenges in West Virginia and some of the best ways that we can address.
36:44
I want to talk about this workforce participation because it's something we spend a whole
36:46
lot of time talking about. We have the work all the talk about the
36:51
West Virginia work ethic and I've heard it all my life, and I do
36:53
believe it's still there in a certain amount of the population. Why don't we
36:57
have the worst numbers in the state when it comes to able bodied people not
37:00
de troy and want and not wanting to work? And what did your polling
37:04
uncover? So according to our pole results here, when we asked the respondents
37:12
what they thought were the factors contributing to the low labor force participation rate,
37:16
the top ranking issue was issues with drugs or substance abuse, and eighty one
37:22
percent of folks said that that was a major or moderate factor in it.
37:28
And kind of going down from that, we've got lack of good paying jobs,
37:32
high childcare costs or family responsibilities, discouraged workers who have just straight up
37:37
given up on trying to find a good job, generous welfare, unemployment benefits,
37:44
aging population and retirement, lack of access to education and training, criminal
37:50
records hindering job opportunities, and health and disability issues preventing people from working.
37:57
And our lowest the lowest strength one was this health and disability issues. But
38:02
even fifty three percent of West Virginians think that, hey, that's a that's
38:07
a major factor up with eighty one percent thinking that the drugs are substance abuse.
38:13
So how do we fix all this? There's there's a sixty four million
38:16
dollar question. How do we fix it? Well, so that is that
38:21
that's part of this overarching dignity project here, and so it kicked off with
38:27
the benefit cliffs research that I put out about a month ago. So we're
38:34
talking about that in terms of the way that a lot of these safety net
38:38
programs are. The way that they actually operate here is in such a place
38:45
that you can get to a point that you get a small raise, you
38:49
know, twenty five cents, fifty cents, and but you've reached this sort
38:53
of a cutoff point and you reach what's known as a benefit cliff, where
38:58
then the support that you were getting, whether it's food stamps, whether it's
39:01
housing help, whether it is healthcare assistance, be it in the Medicaid or
39:07
like chip program, that the loss that you get in the help that you
39:14
cross over, that the loss of your benefits vastly outstrips the earned income that
39:22
you are making, and it puts people between a rock and a hard place
39:25
that it's a rational decision to say no, I'm not going to take on
39:30
an extra shift. I'm not going to take on this career advancement, this
39:35
promotion, this raise, because it is going to so destabilize the rest of
39:43
my life. And that's particularly true in households with children. Yeah, and
39:46
that's something that and I hear this from employers all the time. I've got
39:51
a good friend that's in local business owner, a small business owner, and
39:53
he said, I would like to hire new people, and I'd like to
39:55
give raises or like to give advancements and whatever. He said, But if
39:59
I do, this person has this benefit and they're going to end up losing
40:02
them. That's kind of hit or it's what else did you pulling find other
40:06
than just a workforce participation? What else did you take a look at?
40:08
So we looked at kind of we primed it up. Just talking about the
40:13
general satisfaction of the direction of the US versus the state, A lot of
40:17
folks were not so encouraged by the direction of the United States. Only nineteen
40:22
percent of respondents we're satisfied with that, But we've got like a forty seven
40:28
percent saying that they're satisfied with the direction of West Virginia. People are happier
40:34
with the state of West Virginia than they are with the country as a whole
40:37
indeed, indeed, and I think that reflects well on the policies that have
40:42
been implemented and the issues that lawmakers have been focusing on in recent years.
40:49
I think some particular high points, You've got things like the biggest tax cut
40:53
in West Virginia history last year. We've got you know, groundbreaking choice through
41:00
the Hope Scholarship in twenty twenty one, which is hard to believe that's been
41:05
almost three years ago. And there's just been this sustained focus on the fundamentals
41:12
of what creates good policy that is going to cultivate you know, small business
41:17
growth, that is going to cultivate an environment where people can get these jobs
41:22
that give them both personal satisfaction and meaning as well as a job that's actually
41:30
going to pay all the bills too. So we started with that, we
41:35
move into you know, some of the questions about what's leading into the low
41:39
labor force participation rate. We talked about attitudes that people had regarding people who
41:47
are receiving these public assistance benefits, and kind of sadly here we've got basically
41:54
one out of every three people think that it's that folks who are receiving assistance
42:02
that they're not motivated to work and they're seeking to rely on it, and
42:07
so you know, that's that's kind of a discouraging mantra, especially in kind
42:14
of contrast to that West Virgin you work. I think that you were just
42:17
so yeah that we talked about at the beginning of the Segon But doctor Jesse
42:21
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I could spend all show talking about this. Maybe we'll have you back
42:37
on Againsum. But before we let you go, I want to ask you
42:39
about the Cardinal Institute and the work that you do for people that maybe you're
42:45
listening for the first time. You and others from the Cardinal Institute have been
42:47
on the show in the past. What exactly is the Cardinal Institute. So
42:50
the Cardinal Institute is a public policy think tank. We are focused on developing
42:58
the ideas, of researching the ideas and communicating the good ideas that are going
43:02
to be focused on making West Virginia that better place to live, work and
43:07
raise a family. Like I said, especially with my background as an economist,
43:12
we like to focus on those issues that there are other organizations that do
43:17
a great job on other things, but you know, talking about tax policy,
43:22
education policy, things like the social safety net, and just fundamentally,
43:28
what are the barrier barriers that are holding people back from fully engaging in the
43:34
workforce. Those have been a lot of our key issues in recent years,
43:38
and we just we want to see this state live up to you know what
43:46
John Denver called it, almost heaven. Do you think West Virginia's on the
43:50
right track overall in your opinion? I think so. I think we've made
43:53
a lot of good progress, But I think, especially when you take a
43:57
fuller look at these pulling results, that there's still a lot of work left
44:01
to be done. So I think we can't rest on the laurels of some
44:07
policy victories in recent years. We've got to stay focused on the fundamentals,
44:14
and we've got to keep pushing forward. Doctor Jesse Troyan the Cardinal Institute.
44:17
Where can people learn more about the organization? They want to learn more about
44:21
these poll results that you did whe Where can they find out more information?
44:23
If you want to learn more about the Cardinal Institute, check out cardinal Institute
44:29
dot com. And if you want to take a closer look at these polling
44:31
results and the portfolio of work that we have in this it is wvdignity dot
44:39
com. Wvdignity dot com. Doctor Jess TROYA, I appreciate you being here,
44:44
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America's largest injury law firm. Ryan Nicholson is our producer. Today they
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had a knockouts some texts here. Tex says Chris Prett is such a true
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conservative that appeals to all West Virginians that his Secretary of State campaign failed before
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it started. He had a resort to running in a gerrymanderin district. Why
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does a popular guy with a popular message have to pick his voters just to
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have a chance? Texas to find general rus as used in the context of
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welfare and unemployment benefits Cardinal Institute, I want the dollar amounts is the poverty
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level? Texas? School choice equal socialism, It's literal redistribution of wealth.
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Take from Peter to pay Paul so kids can go to a private school,
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says a texta Texas says, I can't imagine West Virginia being more conservative.
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Also means it would be more depressing Texas. The Cardinal Institute lady is using
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pr and marketing to try to get people to work when there's an easy solution
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to get people to work, train people and pay them better. Jobs out
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there want three to five years of experience and only pay twenty five thousand dollars
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a year. Texas can't take people seriously who say John Denver wrote Country Roads
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about West Virginia when the man never foot stepped foot in West Virginia. I
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think that panderin else world. That's entirely not true. John Denver played a
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lot in West Virginia a lot. Now. I think what you're talking about
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is the whole origin of the song. And that's a that's probably another show
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for another time. That's been debated, a debate it Hoppy is up at
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ten o six with talk Line. Tony Coridi will be stopping by with a
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recap of that huge w men's basketball went over Kansas has past Saturday. Chris
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Steierwald is on today as his congressman and candidate for us SIN and Alex Mooney.
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Brad mcelhaney with a preview of what to expect this week in the legislature.
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Also Bishop Mark Drennan on his opposition to the death penalty. Greg Thomas
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is on the show and more Hobby at ten six from Morgantown. Mister kirchiwell
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back in the Capitol in the AARP broadcast location this Wednesday and Thursday. Now,
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I want to get a couple of local things in here. It was
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announced over the weekend that Canaw County Manager Michael Ferrell will be resigning his position.
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Conaw County Circuit Judge Mary Claire Akers said that Farrell resigned via email on
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Friday. Now, talk with Judge Acres this morning and she will be appointing
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someone to that position. She is confirming with the State Supreme Court today and
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is expected to have more confirmation available later today. From the crime Blodder,
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Jeff Jenkins with the story post to wv meta news dot com. Police so
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charged a Charleston man with murder of a thirty six year old woman. Isaac
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Surface is the dude in question here. He's twenty one. He was named
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Friday as a person of interest in the beating death of Laura Farley. Charleston
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PD picked up surface yesterday at a previous charge. The victim was found dead
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at her home on Chandler Drive Thursday evening. The cause of death was blunt
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forced trauma to the head. They say the two apparently had been in some
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sort of a relationship. Again, Jeff has a story posted police and Charleston
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have are also the same at they're looking for two suspects after a woman was
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shot in the face while walking with her boyfriend along Woodward Drive. Forty four
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year old Christina White was the victim here. She and her boyfriend were walking
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yesterday afternoon when two men, according to police reports, approached the two and
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one of the guys pulled out a gun. White is in the hospital in
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staple condition. The Dave Island showing five eighty Lives brought you in part by
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promotions, team merchandise, and more. Your hometown baseball team is the Charleston
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Dirty Birds. And while we're talking about sports, I want to get this
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in there. The Reds Caravan is due back in Charleston this Thursday at the
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Kyle Seaman Convention Center. It starts at five thirty and we'll actually be broadcasting
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life from there starting at six thirty. It's free and a great opportunity to
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hang out with future Red Stars, Red's executives and legendary former Red time Benzinger
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you remember him from the nineteen ninety team You're Home with the Reds. The
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Voice of Charleston wcchs now. The deadline for office in West Virginia if you
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want to file for the May primaries is Saturday night at midnight twelve one am
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Sunday morning. It's too late unless you file by mail and the envelope is
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postmarked on Saturday. That having been said, over the next couple of weeks
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is the primary season really gets cranking up. I'm going to hear from a
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lot of candidates wanting on the show, which I'm glad to oblige. However,
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that comes with some limitations. As I told you last week. Once
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the filing period is over this Saturday night at midnight. I'll make time for
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any candidate that wants on the show, but they're limited to one time only
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to talk about their campaign now obviously at the governor or, a mayor or
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legislator. Somebody wants on county commissioner and they are talking about their role within
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the job, then I'll make time for them. But as far as campaigning
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after Saturday night or Sunday morning twelve oh one, it becomes one and done.
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As far as you meet the candidate, segments go all right, So
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email me the best way to get me Dave dot allenwvradio dot com. Dave
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dot allenwradio dot com. Coming up tomorrow on the show, candidate for House
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of Delegates Terry Burns will be here. Candidate for judge in Canaan County,
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Stephanie Abraham, and Joe Stevens from the West Virginia Ski Association. Ryan Nicholson
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was my producer. Ryan, Thank you so much. Hop he's coming up
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at ten oh six with talk line. I will see you tomorrow. Till
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then, have fun, enjoy the warmer weather, and love somebody five ad
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