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Patriots Unfiltered 7/15: Biggest Training Camp Storylines and Positional Battles to Watch For · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I don't understand how a child or a dog
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  Speaker 5: doesn't have a home. We all, well, most people, except
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  Speaker 5: for Paul have a sauce spot.
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  Speaker 4: For these dogs. You know, Bridget moynihan also older than Tom.
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  Speaker 4: I would think so.
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  Speaker 6: If if at that point she was older, she's older now,
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  Speaker 6: So you know what Paul shows, right, Sometimes they just
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  Speaker 6: drive me crazy there It is good one.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, you're in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 7: Did you happen to drive past the Drake May passing
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  Speaker 7: camp that fulls over.
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  Speaker 4: Like on the side of the road. Hey, y'all you
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  Speaker 4: got no receivers? Yell at bombs?
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  Speaker 3: Alright?
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  Speaker 4: You think we'd get flagged on YouTube if we tried
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  Speaker 4: to do that waterboarding each other in the studio.
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  Speaker 3: I'll try it.
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  Speaker 4: If he waterboarded, Paul would diet pepsi. He would just
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  Speaker 4: take it in. He would be like, yeah, like heaven,
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  Speaker 4: I gonna put it up my nose. It doesn't matter,
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  Speaker 4: it's diet pepsi. I'll take it any hole. I can
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  Speaker 4: get It would be so cool.
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  Speaker 5: If they just ran out in new uniforms and no
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  Speaker 5: one had any idea.
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  Speaker 4: Paul wouldn't even notice.
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  Speaker 7: It is Tuesday here at Jillette Stadium and we are
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  Speaker 7: a week in a day away from the first public
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  Speaker 7: practice for training camp.
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  Speaker 4: Can wait or can't wait?
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for the season. Yeah, I can always
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  Speaker 2: wait for the starting camp.
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  Speaker 8: I get excited for that first, like, hey, we're here,
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  Speaker 8: and then all right, let's get the pads, and then
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  Speaker 8: all right, let's get the preseason.
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  Speaker 4: But I can get excited.
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  Speaker 2: I get checked up when the season starts. That that
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  Speaker 2: you know, the kickoff, that Thursday night kickoff. I always
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  Speaker 2: look forward to that game. And then week one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but well it's it's Paul, this is Deuce's time.
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  Speaker 4: It's Paul and color coordinated.
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  Speaker 3: Look, not only is the same color, but both polo
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  Speaker 3: shirts just nice.
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  Speaker 4: We thought it extent our tans from vacation.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to initially apologize for missing shows last week,
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  Speaker 2: but evidently I was the topic of the.
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  Speaker 3: Show, Well, whoever's not here?
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  Speaker 2: Seventeen references to whoever's not here?
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  Speaker 3: Is the topic of the show?
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  Speaker 5: Alex in matter in the booth, it's me is Alice
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  Speaker 5: coming down at some point?
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  Speaker 3: Or is she busy?
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  Speaker 4: She's busy right now, but maybe we'll be grace with
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  Speaker 4: her presents. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, nice?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 5: So yes, like I said, a week in, a day
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  Speaker 5: away from the first training camp. On the eighteenth, quarterbacks
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  Speaker 5: and rookies will be here. Uh so that's this Friday.
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  Speaker 8: Probably start getting like some pup stuff of who's healthy,
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  Speaker 8: a lot of number of players that were limited during
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  Speaker 8: the spring. Who's ready to go? I think that's a
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  Speaker 8: great question. I mean, Jared Wilson, mac Hollins, you know.
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  Speaker 4: A couple off the top citys Stefan Diggs. Oh, that's
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  Speaker 4: that's a good one about him, that guy.
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  Speaker 8: But that's I think always the first thing that that
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  Speaker 8: kind of drops. All right, who's not quite ready to go?
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  Speaker 8: In the past, you speculated maybe they didn't pass the
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  Speaker 8: conditioning test. I don't know if that's still a thing
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  Speaker 8: around here with Rabel that's how it works, but that'll
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  Speaker 8: be the first.
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  Speaker 4: Thing to drop. Probably the end of this week.
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  Speaker 8: I think usually guys report back, they get checked out,
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  Speaker 8: and then you find out who's not quite ready to
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  Speaker 8: go yet.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, because I think injured guys would be in
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  Speaker 2: that quarterback rookie kind of group right right, have existing
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  Speaker 2: injuries check.
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  Speaker 8: And I mean July to Bay another one who got
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  Speaker 8: hurt his calf and was out then missed the rest
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  Speaker 8: of the spring. So a number of interesting guys that
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  Speaker 8: that should be competing for jobs that we'll see what
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  Speaker 8: their health status is.
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  Speaker 5: First thing, yep, Okay, I got a box delivered to
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  Speaker 5: my office today.
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  Speaker 3: I said, what the hell is this?
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  Speaker 2: It was soap and noo.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So with all the soap talk that we have here, uh,
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  Speaker 5: Steve Ross decided to send us some soap. He owns
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  Speaker 5: an operator Willow Mountain Distributors in uh Brute and Alabama,
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  Speaker 5: which my father in law was from home to Fred's
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  Speaker 5: wife and family. I listened to Fred's rent on soap
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  Speaker 5: bits and had to send some samples. We manufactured distribute
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  Speaker 5: soap all over the US. Hope you enjoy them. I
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  Speaker 5: would be really nice to hear how you like them
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  Speaker 5: and how Alex liked them in particular.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, I guess Alex is a big user of soap.
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  Speaker 4: IM Like, I'm like, you gotta just keep smelling it now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's Willow Mountain Distributors.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so thank you for that, Stephen.
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  Speaker 8: It's like the soap came with a nice little pocket
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  Speaker 8: as well that we can put the soap in.
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  Speaker 4: I'll give it a world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to give someone a blanket party soap, little pocket.
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  Speaker 4: Hour back to thanks for the soap. Appreciate that. That's
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  Speaker 4: a good stuff.
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  Speaker 8: I love when fans send us things like which McCall
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  Speaker 8: it's and soap?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, random cars not wizards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, sponsorships, So what else have we got
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  Speaker 3: going on?
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  Speaker 5: It's really a dead time. That's why baseball has their
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  Speaker 5: All Star game.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well I had a nice weekend on the Cape.
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  Speaker 8: Oh that's when we start off with a little funny story.
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  Speaker 3: I got a little funny sky funny story.
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  Speaker 4: Can I do a funny story?
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  Speaker 2: Fred's not happy that we don't have to.
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  Speaker 4: I might have to protect in a little bit. Uh.
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  Speaker 8: So, my my stepdad, I called my stepdad, but you
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  Speaker 8: know I got married when I was like forty, So
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  Speaker 8: this is my stepdad. It's got a boat Si sue
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  Speaker 8: At Harbor, Fred, you know that spot. My son loves
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  Speaker 8: to fish and to take us out fishing. One day,
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  Speaker 8: so we're walk down to Si Suet Harbor. They got
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  Speaker 8: to put the boat in, so we're waiting for them
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  Speaker 8: to put the boat in. And as they put the
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  Speaker 8: boat in and they put it into the slip, you know,
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  Speaker 8: Don's getting it ready, showing my son some stuff, and
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  Speaker 8: I'm kind of just sitting there getting ready to show
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  Speaker 8: ship off. Now as I'm doing this, I notice a
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  Speaker 8: family four people walk down the dogs to go to
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  Speaker 8: their boat. And the first thing I noticed is like
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  Speaker 8: they have a big box of something like something that
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  Speaker 8: they're like taking care.
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  Speaker 4: Of, and I'm like, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 8: And then I noticed a couple of people holding flowers,
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  Speaker 8: and so my mind, I'm just sitting at the front
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  Speaker 8: of the boat holding it and I'm like, here we go.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I think this might be be an ASHES starance.
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  Speaker 8: So right does I make the realization that this might
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  Speaker 8: be an Ashes ceremony. My good friend Dawn, who's having
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  Speaker 8: the time of his life, cranks the opening to Life
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  Speaker 8: in the fast Lane. He is blasting life in the
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  Speaker 8: fast Lane, just loving life so happy, so excited to
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  Speaker 8: go on the boat, and I'm looking at these people
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  Speaker 8: who look very somber right next door getting a full blast.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know what to say.
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  Speaker 2: And then the final line is we're pulling out.
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  Speaker 4: Was he looked over to this, you guys going off
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  Speaker 4: for a joy ride?
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  Speaker 2: Ah? So I was in I was in my own head.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh.
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  Speaker 8: Man, yes, yes, especially when you think of the intensity
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  Speaker 8: and the aggressiveness of the life and the fast lane
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  Speaker 8: guitar riff. It's just it's especially at ten am on
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  Speaker 8: a Saturday morning, it's just it hits hard.
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  Speaker 4: So that was that was kind of funny moment for
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  Speaker 4: me there this weekend. It's the sue at Harbor, those
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  Speaker 4: poor people. Hopefully it all went well. You know, my condolences.
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  Speaker 2: I will to Mike that that was a funny little staty,
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  Speaker 2: a little quip.
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  Speaker 3: Then, you know, one of those curb your enthusiasm type stories.
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  Speaker 4: I just you know, you get in your own head
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  Speaker 4: and you're like, what do I do? I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: the same thing when I'm in the movie theater.
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  Speaker 2: Friend, I know what I know. I know he was
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  Speaker 2: and he was so happy, and he just he probably
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  Speaker 2: wasn't paying attention to that.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like it's not like in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the water he pulled.
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  Speaker 2: Up right, but it was.
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  Speaker 8: It was so in my own head of like I'm
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  Speaker 8: you know, at the end of the boat, just seeing
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  Speaker 8: on the dock, run ready to help him shift out.
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  Speaker 8: And as soon as I realized that, the music just
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  Speaker 8: cranked and.
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  Speaker 4: It was funny. So yeah, that was my weekend. Great
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  Speaker 4: weekend on the cape though. Love love that place.
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  Speaker 8: It's not summer till I get down there and get
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  Speaker 8: some ice cream, get a fish sandwich and ran into
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  Speaker 8: a member of our of our content team down there randomly,
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  Speaker 8: So that was good, good.
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  Speaker 4: Weekend for me. Good to break battery is charging up,
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  Speaker 4: ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, who'd you run into down then?
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  Speaker 8: Julian Jeels she was getting in line for a lobster role.
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  Speaker 8: Well she was supposed to get on the boat. She
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  Speaker 8: was in the wrong spot. But you know, another random one,
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  Speaker 8: same place that I saw Jyalen Hawkins last year. So
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  Speaker 8: I guess it's the place to be if you're out
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  Speaker 8: the It's a cool spot. Tough to get in and
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  Speaker 8: out of, it is. Yeah, bring your cash, you're gonna
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  Speaker 8: need it.
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  Speaker 3: Playing a lot of golf ball.
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  Speaker 2: I played some golf in my week off.
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  Speaker 4: What would you say? What do you shoot?
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  Speaker 2: I shot an eighty eight. That's good. On that's good.
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  Speaker 4: Last Tuesday, I agreet you could play with anybody absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I played nine on Sunday, did not play as well.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't keep score, but I had a couple of doubles.
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't play as well as I did on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm working on some things, trying to work some
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  Speaker 2: sort of tigering my swing a little bit. Now I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to like I'm having problems with with some of
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  Speaker 2: my irons, like approach shots, and like everybody else, I'm
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  Speaker 2: watching too many videos in your own I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: this is what I think I'm doing wrong. So I
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  Speaker 2: actually played on Sunday and then I asked Will if
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  Speaker 2: he wanted to go to the driving range. So I
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  Speaker 2: was like, Scheffler, you know, after my round, I had
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  Speaker 2: to go to the driving range to work on some things.
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  Speaker 2: So I was sort of trying to adjust where my
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  Speaker 2: hands are on irons, and I felt like at the
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  Speaker 2: driving range, surprise, surprise, it was much better. Right, We'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens the next time. I play, but care
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  Speaker 2: not good. Not good.
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  Speaker 8: I don't play a lot of golf, but I played
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  Speaker 8: some golf with my friends who all play a lot
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  Speaker 8: of golf, and like Paul, talk about golf all the time.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm always amazed that when I get suckered in
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  Speaker 8: and not suckered when I get talked into playing golf
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  Speaker 8: with these guys, they're not that much better than me.
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  Speaker 4: Like everybody's like, it's like nobody is good. Nobody's good.
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  Speaker 4: That's what you forget.
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  Speaker 8: It's just people are willing to put the time and
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  Speaker 8: money into it to just go out there and hack
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  Speaker 8: around every weekend, where.
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  Speaker 4: It's me, you know, every couple of years.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like if I could get off the
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  Speaker 5: tee better, I could consistently hit under one hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the goal, right when you're looking for
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  Speaker 3: your ball every hole.
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  Speaker 4: It's tough.
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  Speaker 2: It's a hard way.
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  Speaker 5: It's a hard way, and I refuse to like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just going to hit an iron off the tee.
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  Speaker 3: I refuse to do that. If I can't do it right,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you, you know, you know
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  Speaker 2: you what do we do? You know, we're not on tour,
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  Speaker 2: We're not trying to score, We're trying to get better,
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  Speaker 2: right right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, that's that's golf.
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  Speaker 2: But back to football, I don't hear that often.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when it goes in the hole, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Usually I pick it up and discust.
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  Speaker 5: So I was, you know, listening to I listened to
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  Speaker 5: sports radio a lot whenever I'm in the car, and
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  Speaker 5: they were talking about what are you most excited about
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  Speaker 5: going into this season for the Patriots?
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  Speaker 3: And I was.
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  Speaker 5: Wondering if maybe we could pick up on that topic,
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  Speaker 5: And the conversation, at least on the radio morphed into
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  Speaker 5: like what do you think is going to be best
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  Speaker 5: on the team?
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  Speaker 3: Which I think is different.
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  Speaker 5: I think they told they took the question and bastardized it,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like because.
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  Speaker 2: A potential semantics argument that Fred and Iron actually lockstep.
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  Speaker 2: I take it exactly the way. What do you think
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  Speaker 2: is going to be the you know, most exciting thing
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  Speaker 2: is not necessarily what aspect of the team is best?
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  Speaker 5: Right, right, exactly, But so let's let's do it in
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  Speaker 5: the true form of the question, what are you most
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  Speaker 5: excited about going into training camp for this team?
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  Speaker 2: I answer.
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to say how Mike Rabel's impact on the
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  Speaker 8: team manifests itself.
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  Speaker 4: What this team plays like, what you know?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, And I think Paul is probably leaning towards
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  Speaker 8: the defense maybe for me, and I think that's a
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  Speaker 8: big element of it, because I think Mike Rabel's impact
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  Speaker 8: on the team, his stamp will be most obvious on
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  Speaker 8: defense because it will be probably a different style than
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  Speaker 8: we're used to seeing. But I'm most interested in just
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  Speaker 8: the overall feel of the team, how they play these games.
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  Speaker 8: They you know, the aggressiveness and you're excited about getting
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  Speaker 8: back to that person that's going I do.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I just the new identity of the team.
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  Speaker 8: The identity of the team under Mike Vrabel, I would say,
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  Speaker 8: is what I'm most excited to see manifest itself. It
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  Speaker 8: could look a number of different ways, but that for
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  Speaker 8: me is is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I would say for me, it's really all
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  Speaker 2: about Drake may That's what I'm most excited about. What
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  Speaker 2: you know, where is his progression. I feel like he's
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  Speaker 2: going to have better coaching this year than he did
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  Speaker 2: last year. The talent around him is largely the same.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping the offensive line is a little bit better.
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  Speaker 2: But Drake May That's what I'm most excited to see
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  Speaker 2: his maturation process. Can he kept back on the turnovers?
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  Speaker 2: Candy be a little bit better in winning time? Where
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  Speaker 2: does he stand? Are we going to, you know, plow
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  Speaker 2: forward one hundred miles an hour knowing that this is
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  Speaker 2: the guy, or are we going to continue to say,
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  Speaker 2: if you could just cut back some of the mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: there's something. There's a lot of roberability. So that's what
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  Speaker 2: I'm most excited to say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm most excited about the offensive line. I think
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  Speaker 3: I think personnel wise, it's been upgraded.
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  Speaker 4: I think Will.
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  Speaker 5: Campbell is going to be a good left tackle and
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  Speaker 5: he's going to be the left tackle in this team
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  Speaker 5: for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I think whether it's.
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  Speaker 5: Brad Berry or the other guy, I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 5: end up having a decent center. I think the right
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  Speaker 5: side is fine, and right now, all I'm wondering is
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  Speaker 5: you know how left guard is going to play out?
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  Speaker 5: It's probably I don't know if it's going to be cold,
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  Speaker 5: strange or but I think, and then combine that with
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  Speaker 5: the coaching, I believe the offensive line is going to
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  Speaker 5: be a lot better than it was last year, and
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  Speaker 5: that's going to just make the overall execution on the
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  Speaker 5: offense that much better. And you know, it'll help Drake May,
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  Speaker 5: it's going to help the receivers, it's going to help
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  Speaker 5: every thing.
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm excited about how much better the offensive
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  Speaker 3: line is going to be this year from last year.
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  Speaker 8: I want to ask you about that, because do you
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  Speaker 8: think it will be immediately apparent from as we get
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  Speaker 8: into drills with pads on that you can evaluate offensive
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  Speaker 8: lineman one on ones, Because I hear what you're saying,
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  Speaker 8: and I just wonder if it's going to be hard
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  Speaker 8: to really get excited about them until we get into
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  Speaker 8: the games and you're like, they're better this year.
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  Speaker 2: So I could definitely see, you know, maybe not coming
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  Speaker 2: off vacation, Paul saying I can't believe that you're that
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  Speaker 2: excited about the offensive line, and then us both of
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  Speaker 2: us completely being convinced that we were right based on
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  Speaker 2: what happened in September. See, I told you they were better,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, really not bad, you know, and having
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  Speaker 2: one of those stupid Fred Paul. It's because you're right, Mike,
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to readily know how
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: much to know how much is Josh McCay is getting
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: the ball out quicker, you know, you know, the time
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: to throw is so much so it's made Can everybody
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: look better? Or you know, Will Campbell was just really
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: the real deal as the fourth overall pick. He is
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: a you know, a sort of a blossoming Pro Bowl
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: caliber talent. Let's put it that way. I'm not going
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: to call him a Pro Bowl or rookie year, but
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: he has that kind of ability.
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we knew we had major problems last
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: year when the Eagles came to town for that joint practice, right,
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: I mean that was uh oh, So I'm hoping that
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: when the commanders come that we'll see the opposite and
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: we're going to have another opportunity when they have a
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: joint with the Vikings that you're going up against another team.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: And if I'm Mike Vrabel, I'm asking, you know, Dan Quinn,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: hey test us here if you can, you know, whatever
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: whatever we can do there to give an.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Indication of how people are doing.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Uh so we'll we'll we'll know it when we see it.
• 15:55
  Speaker 8: It's hard for me because I've realized i haven't seen
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: a great Patriots offense in training camp really, other than
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: when I came in a while, which when I came
• 16:04
  Speaker 8: as a fan and watched Brady like that was in
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: I would come back just to watch that, and twenty
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: nineteen Brady was here. But in my memory, even that
• 16:13
  Speaker 8: twenty nineteen camp, you could already start to tell that
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: like they.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Are missing I mean, remember that's why they went out
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and took the chance on Antonio Brown. I knew they
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: were missing weapons.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So I wonder what it'll look like. But I
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: still think you're right though. There'll be maybe some hints
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: and I but I think we're going to be predisposed
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: to giving Will Campbell the benefit of the doubt either way.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Well, you can't tell the difference between last year and
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: what they have right now, then it's a disaster. Yeah,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: because last year was a really really bad performance and
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: they have on paper at least upgraded two spots.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if one of the first hints we
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: might get is if four of the five spots start
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: a certain way and continue that way in terms of personnel,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: that's a good sign.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'll be I'm leaving out left
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: guard there. But if the five spots are the same
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: throughout the summer.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: At least, that's good.
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I guess I also falls back to
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: last year though, when we kept saying they just have
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: to get their five guys, and even when they had
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: some consistency, it was still consistently.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Bad the head injury. Yeah, I mean, I hear what
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: you're saying, and I think that would be great.
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: But I also wonder if it's maybe going to be
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: a little bit better if guys are making pushes and
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: there is some movement and there is some room for
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: competition to happen.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer is. I hear what
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: you're saying.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: At the same Wallace is doing something.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I think it would be a great sign of Jared
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Wilson is pushing for a starting job for the center.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, maybe think like that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you see, all right, Maybe it is a veteran
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: starting off in a position.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: But then as we get into.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: Pads a little bit into joint practices, you start to
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: see somebody making that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: The more I read about Wilson, the more intrigued I
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: am with his ability. I know Mike Reese had something
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: in his Sunday notes. I think it was last Sunday,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: it might have been the week before, but just his
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: college coach talking about his rare athleticism for the spot,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and I thought it was kind of strange. One of
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: the reasons why he only played one year, only started
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: one year, was because Kirby Smart didn't want to start
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: him at left guard and have his two centers both
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: in which I thought was a foolish reason. But I mean,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: whom guy has won national titles, not like he's doesn't
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: know what he's doing. But I thought that was flawed
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: logic if they were if they had two of their
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: better alignment and only one of them started because they
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: were worried about losing one or the other not having
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: a backup center, and that to me is flawed logic.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: But I'm intrigued by his overall skill set.
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, he's kind of the wildcard right now,
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: especially since we didn't see him at all right during
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: the spring. But you know, City Sookden, Wallace, Leyden Robinson,
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: There's a lot of different guys in there that I
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: think deserve chances, and I want to see some of them.
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: But I get your point, though, Fred, it would be
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: like they know guys out of the spring, these are
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: the guys.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: This is what we're sticking with.
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: Like, I do see some some quality in that, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: I'd also like to see some rookies make some pushes
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: or you know, the younger guys things that we didn't expect.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: They have to be really, really good because if you're
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: pushing and when you out, that's not a good sign
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't expect He's the only one that I really
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: feel is like.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, do you think Morgan Moses could get pushed out?
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: No, I'm not worry about him with injury, and I
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: know he's been pretty reliable old.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Campbell and Moses are probably locked in.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I think that the other two spots to me are
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: up in the air.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with Brad Berry's more established than anybody at left guy.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't put too much meaning in But Michael Owenyu,
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: I think is the highest played player on this team
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: right now and looking last night at the Salary Capital.
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: But I just I just wonder if there's a little
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: more pressure on Michael and WHENU I just I don't
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: feel like people mention him very often.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: We talk a lot about the offensive line.
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: He should be the key guy right now. I mean,
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: they they gave him a big contract, they wanted to
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: keep him around. I don't know what happened last year,
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: and maybe we can overlook that, but I just in
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: my view, Michael.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: And Whu has got some pressure on him this year, and.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I think that some of these guys should coaching staff
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: in here. They don't have any time to him. They
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: didn't give him that nineteen million a year contract. I
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: agree with you, Mike, Yeah, he's got some.
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: He's kind of glaring when you, you know, pull up
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: next year's cap numbers or this year's cap numbers and
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: you just see him a top and all right, well,
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: usually those are the guys that you're you're really counting
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: on and relying on. And you know, like you just
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: laid out Fred with the offensive line, I feel like
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: we all talk about it the same way. It never
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: starts with like, of course our best player, Michael WNU.
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: He's going to anchor us, So, you know, can he
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: turn it around this year? I think this is I
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: just think it's a proving ground for him this year,
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: more than people are probably saying out loud. But at
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: the same time. When you hear people talk about the
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: offensive line, nobody mentions him as like the anchor of it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: You mentioned Will Campbell first, and you know, but I still.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: So those are the things we're most excited about. You're
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: you're with the yeah, the quarterback, the offensive line. What
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: are you most afraid of? What's what's your biggest fear?
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: That Drake can't get over turnovers and bad playing the clutch.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's why, and that's why when Paul said
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: that's what he's most excited about, I I you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: it's all semantics right now, but I'm like, but I'm
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: I'm worried. I'm excited to see him play, but I'm
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: not guaranteed that he's not going to come out here
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: and have a you know, another year where maybe there's
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: some untimely interceptions, may sprays, those kind of things.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: That's what scares me the most. That's what will hamper
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: this team.
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: And you don't want to come out of this year
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: thinking maybe we need some competition for Drake.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: That's the worst case scenario.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I think Mike is right. I mean, that would be
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the biggest fear, is that he doesn't make the progression
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and he's just sort of a very talented but erratic quarterback.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I mean obviously if that happens.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, not below that, you'll you're limited. Yeah,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: that you'll be better because you have better players than
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you did like year, but you're not going to be
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: that much better.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: I have more faith that he will be able to
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: overcome that, and he will be He'll take that second
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: year jump.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: He'll be fine.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: So that's not my biggest fear.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: It's is it something I'm looking at, of course, But
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: my biggest fear is these wide receivers that there isn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: a progression that Booty doesn't progress that digs something's going
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: on there, and he's not the addition that we all
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: expect and hope he will be, and that overall it
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: just we don't see that jump that we all know
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: that they need.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Uh. That's that's that's.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: My biggest fear, which then makes it harder on Drake
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and then harder.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Drake and now we're wondering what the problem is, you
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: know overall with the offense, so collectively that wide receiver
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: room really has to step it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Up this year.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd sell you like maybe a B fear of
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: mine is that on the defensive side of the ball,
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: a couple key injuries prevent Vrabel from really doing what
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: he wants to do.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I think he'll be able to tip.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: It's a problem, yeah, across the close, close.
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: Facsimilar to what he had in Tennessee's starting to put
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: it together. But you know, without a Spulane or without
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: a Landry or you know, even a chase on like
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: those dominoes tend to fall pretty quick. And I don't
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: want to come out of the season being like, well,
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: he just he didn't have his guys. He lost a
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: couple guys. He wasn't able to do what he wants
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: to do. I'd like him to be able to hold
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: on to those key pieces. I know there'll be injuries,
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: there'll be some depth pieces that they have to work around,
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: of course, but I just hope they don't have a
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: couple of catastrophic injuries that just change the dynamic and
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: then you're not saying yeah, but but you never know.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hopefully it's it's a reasonable amount of health.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't lose Gonzo, you know, or Spelane.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I think those guys would be really impactful losses. Milton
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Williams and Barmore obviously going to be a big part
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: of what they want to do up front. You want
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to keep those guys healthy. Yeah, Mike is right about
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the overall depth though, because they while they haven't prove
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the roster, you can't improve the roster and add all
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: depths at the same time. You know, in one offseason.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I think they've taken some steps to improve the overall
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: talent level, but to me, it's still lacking overall with
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: regard to the playoff teams, the teams that we you know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: The Kansas City, that's why they're good.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Baltimore, they can overcome injuries because they have the
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: death so fears of may wide receiver room. What do
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: you think will be the biggest positive surprise.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Come into play.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that the defense will be better than
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: they were last year.
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know if that's a surprise for anybody, right,
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: but they were down near the bottom and just about everything.
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: I think if trusting Mike Rabel, Terrell Williams, they went out,
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: they got their kind of guys. They're transitioning to a
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: different kind of defense, but I think that they'll be
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: They're playing some bad offenses.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: But I think that that'll be the biggest surprise to me.
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: It's just that this defense only kind of comes back
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: plays aggressive, get some you know, some recognition for for
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: how they play.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a tough question to answer. How about
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you get a nice bounce back year from Ramondre Stevenson.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I think they probably want to run the ball a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: little bit, you know, with McDaniels and Vrabel. I know
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Mike sort of he can get snippy with me, but
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: he was sort of like, well, we don't have a
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty pound running back. When I sort
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: of asked him in the offseason about his style of play,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: do you expect to be similar to what you were
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: in Tennessee? And he immediately hit me with, well, we
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: don't have Derek Henry. I do think that that's how
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: they want to play. They want to protect the football,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: they want to run the ball, they want to be
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: physical on both sides of the ball. Ramondre Stevens is
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: not going to fumble seven times again. Yeah, he's going
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to have a more productive year. I feel with Josh
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and I think you might have a nice positive surprise there.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: My positive surprise is they will do no worse than
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: four and two in the AFC East.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, that would be a surprise. Yeah, yeah, I don't
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: see that, but that would be a surprise.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Losses at Miami and app I'm not saying who you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: one of those wins might be the Bills.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: You know, they could split with the Bills.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: But the last couple of years, no worse than.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Four and two in the a f C East.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: All right, it will be It would be wonderful to
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: get over the Miami hump, so Mark, to get over
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: the morrell to uh like that that that'll be happy, Duce,
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: that'll be happy postgame due.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Better chance four and two or two and four in
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the division like to. So the eternal optimism.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Right now probably too and four right now?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Split with Miami split, don't my lips?
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Can I see that?
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: But to get over the two hump this year I
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: think would be a great first step. You talk about
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: just things to check off, like maybe getting a win
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: down in Miami or simply.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Just in Miami.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And now I got two wins over there. You know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna beat Miami here they play them
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: in December, if I yeah, it's late. It's one of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the late games, right, I forget it's uh.
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: I thought we had Miami or Miami my last in
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: the last game, second game in the last game.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: So I think they're going to win that last game
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: against Miami. Miami will have been eliminated by then.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Matter.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: So there you go Week two down in Miami to
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: a full complement of weaponry. H to win that game,
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: that would that would be good. But I like just
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: going through the like Week one against the Raiders.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: It's a tough game. That's a really tough, tough game
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that Patriots fans I don't want to paint with a
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: broad brush, but a lot of Patriots fans have not
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: even considered the possibility.
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, Brock Bowers is, you know, by the recent vote,
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: the number one tight end in the league right now.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: What was the biggest acquisition they made in the off season?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Fourth overall pair Ashton fourth overall pick was who Will Campbell?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And who is the Raiders best player? The best in
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the league. Yeah, I know that he generally plays on
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the other side, but you don't think Pete Carroll is
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: gonna wreck as well. I got a kid over there.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I might want to see if he's up to speed
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: or how much are they going to have to slide
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the protection from Max Crosby even if he's on you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the right side with Morgan Moses, does that open somebody
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: else up? You know? Is Kon's I forget, I haven't
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: done my matchups yet, so I'm a little behind.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: So to be chase on.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: But but yeah, probably maybe Malcolm Kons is the right.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: So there's that's a really that's a good there's personnel
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: there that can do some damage. You know. You Mike
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: mentioned Bowers. Jano Smith had a good game against the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Patriots last year. You know, I sort of dismissed him
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: heading into that Seattle game. He proved me wrong.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: He's a competent quarterback.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Ashton I mean Ashton gens in the backfield. Ye figure
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: And I was looking at that schedule that I'm like
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: them then at Miami and I was like, were people
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: saying this is like a great schedule for a great
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: start Like I, you know, I it's gonna every every
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: game is going to be a battle.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Every game is going to be a battle, isn't it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: They have three of the first four at home, so
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I think everybody's just sort of felt like, well, those
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: are wins.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: And they haven't won any games at home.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I think the Carolina game, you probably feel pretty good.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: That's a game that quote unquote we should win at home,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and I would agree with that. But Pittsburgh and the Raiders,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to me, those could go either way, right, and if
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: they were on the road, I wouldn't feel really good
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: about either one of them. But at home, I give
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: you a shot.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Of any of those games, Like, which of those games
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: will the Patriots be favored?
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I mean I don't.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I don't make the case the only one would be Carolina.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I think they might be favored in the opener. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: think there's there's a good amount of games that they
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: This stuff is already well, it's already like if there'll
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: be out there, right, Yeah, yeah, I think there's a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I think there's an odd amount of games the Patriots
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: are favorite, like an eleven out of the seventeen games
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: or something like that, which is I think speaks to
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: the schedule that we're.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: All playing, playing a fourth place schedule, right.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: You know they played a fourth place schedule last year too,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: But it's supposed to be better.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: There's only three teams, only three games that are impacted
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: by the place that you finish, right, everybody else is
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the same. It's the same schedule that Buffalo is playing,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: except for three games in their first play schedule. Yeah right, Uh,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: let's see Patriots odds for the season.
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: Right, sots five hundred The Hot Line podcast.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: If I don't talk, the show stops. What did you
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: guys last week?
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: It's nothing. We just stared at each other.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: I can't believe you don't have that tattoos for your forum.
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: It's another side topic though, just we can jump back
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: to that. But just the second round pick thing. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: know someone wrote in about that, and now it seems
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: like it might actually start to be a thing because
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: Houston guaranteed the full contract with Jayden Higgins and I
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: think only he and the linebacker Schwestion Gert from the
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: Browns are the only two second round guys signed. So
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: there might be a little bit of a problem now
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: with our slotted drafting.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Patriots are right now favored by three against the Raiders.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Well you get three, so it's even there.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: You go, Okay, So I'm not gonna look up the
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: rest because he's gonna because he's gonna dismiss it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: It's a great it's a great opening game though. That
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: that was what stood out to me. Just good team,
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: there's some talent yet.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: And you know the Pittsburgh game is interesting too with
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers. Again, it's early in the season, so
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't go well for him, it hasn't not
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: gone well already. You don't have you know what I mean,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: by the time that you get to like week. That's
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: why I think it's it's kind of a bad break
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: that played Miami so early, because I think Miami's like
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I think, like everybody else with Miami, I think they're
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: gonna struggle. I think this is kind of a bridge
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: year or rebuilding, resetting kind of a year for them.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: But in we two they're not going to feel that way.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: You know, the season's just starting.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: So springs internal.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Speaking of contract, Garrett Wilson average about thirty one million
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a year.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: What do you think good deal?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: A good deal for him? I felt like, I don't
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: know why I feel like the Jets are having a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: good offseason because I haven't heard a lot about the Jets,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and I know, I think I mentioned a few weeks
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: ago that Ben Vollen wrote something like that, and I
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: don't often, you know, find myself I say this to
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Ben all the time. I don't often find myself aligned
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: with Ben Vollen, But I think he's right. I think
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: it's a sign that maybe Aaron Glenn has an idea
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: of how he wants to run his team. Scares me
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: his program, you know, they've sort of flown under the radar.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's a really good signing. I don't think
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: it's an an exorbitant salary. It's ninety million guaranteed four years.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: That to me is he's a good player. He's one
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: of the best ten receivers in football.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: He's paid I think somewhere in the top five. And
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: guys that are gonna, you know, you know how that works,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: guys are gonna end up going in front of him.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: He didn't get as much as DK Metcalf, and I
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: think he's a better player than DK Metcalf.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's a ninety million guaranteed, yeah, four years,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: ninety million.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Just it worries me. It worries me.
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: Fret says four and two, and like, I just don't
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: know anything about the Jets right now.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I feel. I mean, it just depends on Justin Field.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a huge wildcard.
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I mean, and I think any team that's
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: why it's a surprise. Any team with a new coach
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: or a new quarterback or some combination of it's huge
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: question marks. And that's what the Raiders are going to be,
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: That's what Pittsburgh's going to be, That's what the Patriots are.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: So I think there's a two more that have been
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: penciled into the wind column the by if you talk
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: to most people. We had a guy last week. I
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: was on one of my shows, Freddie, I was double
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: dipping on you on my vacation. A guy called in
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: and said, you'd be like disappointed with ten wins. He
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: goes just making the playoffs and get knocked out in
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the wildcard round with ten wins isn't enough? And I'm like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I just I looked at Tim mcconne, I said, that's
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: enough for me.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Does that guy call our show too? I feel like
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: we had that.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know you, Oh did we?
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know we had a call like that too.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: He might have made the rounds.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not telling you that ten wins should be like
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you know, cause for a parade or anything like that,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: But based on winning four games in the last.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Two years, you'll come if you win ten, you can
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: win ten games come out of the season feeling very optimal.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Because I find it awfully hard to believe you won
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: ten games without a significant jump from Drake May. That
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: would be the only way I wouldn't feel great about
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: winning ten games is if they win.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: A bunch of game ten to three.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you win a want a bunch of defensive slogs
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: because you played bad teams and they couldn't muster any
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: offense against you when you looked better than.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: You were seeing that season.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Frable's a good coach, so he found a way to,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you know, win these seventeen thirteen kind of games. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Drake May didn't play well. I could see you not
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: feeling great about winning ten games. But that's it. That's it.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: If they win ten games and they make the playoffs,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: or they're at least in playoff contention in week eighteen,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the whole new world, that'd be great.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, whole new world.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Let's see who's this ignis? I don't know.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Ignis from Connecticut, an ignorant fan since two thousand and three,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: moved to the States and longtime fan of the show.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Have you seen the Kendrick Bourne video of the workout
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: sessions Drake organized in North Carolina? Personally, I thought Diggs
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: is moving really well. Hopeful he'll be a full go
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: week one. Mandre looks quicker and sharper in his cuts.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Poke looks bigger. Was impressed with his change in direction
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: when he plants and shifts. So did you guys see
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: the video?
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I did, Actually I watched. I watched.
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: I mean it's like twenty minutes. It just raw Pratts footage.
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: I mean it is edited. I shouldn't say it's.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Ronna say it ain't raw foot but no, but it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: all making everybody look at it. It possibly look.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: It's all highlights. But uh, I like the vibes. I
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: like the vibes. Generally, I don't.
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: I don't care about the videos, but I like the
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: vibes that it seems like they're all getting along, they're
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: working together there.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, I said it on the show on Thursday.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: I like more of the the team building stuff, which
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: I think Mike wrote in his notes. Mike Grease wrote
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: in his notes that Drake said it's more about getting together.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: And I said, the.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Student happen to do anything's happening.
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: You know, the stupid video pod if you saw it
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: was was drake like throwing a past to Remandra on
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: a jet ski and catching. You know, like that's like
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: the dumb, dumb, dumb stuff that me and my friends do.
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: It's like, all right, these guys are getting along, they're
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: spending time together, they're getting to know each other.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: They're gonna want to win for each other. They're gonna
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: want to go through that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I would just say two things here. Physically, don't fall
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: into the trap that so and so looks quicker. They're
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: they're all without quick. They don't look quicker. They are
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: quicker because it's the summer. And the last time you
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: saw them was at the end of an eighteen game
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: slog where they got the crap beat out of them
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: for a whole year, and they were slower. So they
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: are fat. They're all across the board, they're all faster, quicker,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: cutting more shot.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Literally all they have on is cleats and shorts.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Right, so they actually moving faster than they were the
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: last time you saw them. You know, injuries aside, you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: if someone's injured or whatever. But yes, Romandre Stevenson, I
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: have no doubt is moving quicker right now than he
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: was in December, the last time you saw him January.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have I have to be very about this.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I agree with Mike. I think the team bonding thing
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: is significant. I think that's an important part of you know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: getting some kind of like chemistry in the locker room
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. I don't care at all about the Facocta
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: videos that they're clearly sculpting and oh yeah whatever, you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: they look great.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I just realized I didn't give them a food order.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: They make a big deal out of these these kinds
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: of things. They're just not all that important to me
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that they're It matters to me that they like each
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: other and they want to be with each other on
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the field and off like that matters to me. I
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: think that's.
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: Important, right, you know, just trying to see them do
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: a stupid like do you think you could complete a pass?
• 37:40
  Speaker 12: All?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I thought it, Like, that's great. I think that stuff
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: is great. I'm with your mic.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: It made me though, I went into my after watching
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: that video. I just I started playing a Buyer Cell
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: game with the Patriots roster where you get so into
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: analyzing like who's going to get cut who's not? Just
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: and I thought it was a good mental exercise to
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: show just who are you buying or who are you
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: selling as you go in? You know, like Stefan Diggs,
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna buy on him. I think Paul and Evan
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: definitely selling on Jalen Polk. I would be a buy
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: on Jalen Polk right now. I think it's a depreciated
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: asset that I think is gonna, you know, blossom. But
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: it's kind of going through the roster and now there's
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: some interesting choices just putting it through that buyer sell
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: nothing more.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Is he gonna get cut? I don't know, just going in.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like you'd invest in this guy or
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: you wouldn't?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: Uh Now this next email is the definition of dedication.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: OK So, nateon Connecticut's been a frequent caller. He's emailing,
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: He's says, he says, first, he apologizes for not calling
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: in apology.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: I was wondering where, he says.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: I'm at lacrosse camp at West Point and we're at lunch.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: So he's emailing during lunch at lacrosse camp Pyle, What
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: are you doing?
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: That's dedication anyway, He's.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Wondering, do you think we're gonna have new jersey's unveiled?
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: New jerseys?
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: He's got the jay capitalized, So I get a little
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: mixed up there, are we gonna have new jerseys unveiled?
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Because the charges just tease alternates. The Browns of rumored
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: to be having alternate helmets. The commanders just released their
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: new jerseys, probably a week ago. Do you think it's
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: time for a change in jerseys?
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay that.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Somebody somebody made are today it was big head Tampa
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Bay and roll those out and everyone's like, oh, I
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: love those. Everybody hated those at the time, they made
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: fun of them.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Now all of a sudden they love them.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Albert b posted that and said what he loves them? No, no, no,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: what something that I thought you were going to actually say,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: like Pat Patriot?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Absolutely there was.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think that Pat Patriot got a lot of
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: criticism when it was out, but there was. There was
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: no clamoring for Pat Patriot. Like Fred says this all
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the time, He's right, you know, we lived it. There
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: was no I don't remember that the vitriol that Fred
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: does for pat Patriot, But I don't remember anybody saying
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I can't believe they got rid of Pat Patriot. When
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: they got rid of them, there wasn't really this hue
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: and cry.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome to the nineties.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: You know, the creams of Cold. People made fun of it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: They had the I think it was the buccaneer more
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: than anything with the half Yeah, but I always kind
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: of like the uniforms.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I thought they were kind of cool looking.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Archie Manning. That's that's the vibe I get with those ones.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: But I mean, man wasn't he the Oh god, I
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: always confused Tampa Bay, New Orleans. That's like a thing
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I have, I get something something I would have.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Yeah, that's good. Fred. Fred is on a
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: high right now because the Red Sox are on a
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: ten game winning He's brought, he's brought his a game today.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: He's ready bring for the All Star Games, bringing topics
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: to the table. He's talking about Leroy crap show. Steve
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Spurrier was the quarterback. He might be thinking of it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but otherwise, like Trent Dilfer, all right, let's.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Go to the hotline. We'll start with Kendall Carolina I would.
• 41:01
  Speaker 12: Play Kendall, Hey, what's going on?
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: Guys?
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: Hey, First, I want to give a shout that Paul
• 41:09
  Speaker 10: had especially gifts from the pocket they Paul, Paul came
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: to my show yesterday.
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: Appreciated it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Paul did, and I enjoyed it. Kendall does a great
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: job and I was happy to help him out.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, yelly, no, we had nice.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: He chopped it up for a little bit about twenty
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: twenty five minutes. It's nice, good good time.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: You played nice.
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: Okay, yes, the Cans past out played this podcast.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Appreciate it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: But I wanted to ask, have y'all I know Kamara
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: is going, have y'all found out? Like who's going to
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: have y'all found somebody.
• 41:38
  Speaker 13: To replaced on the post pregame show?
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Like y'all got we do have a replacement on the
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: pre and postgame show a host and uh we'll be
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: rolling out that info in due time.
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: So oh okay, okay, Well that's all of anyone to ask.
• 41:53
  Speaker 12: We just want to give us out to Paul and
• 41:55
  Speaker 12: asked that question and I appreciate it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well thanks Kendall, appreciate its.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Kendall, good luck. Ye they're good guy, good guy. Okay, Absolutely,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go for like a young mic two shown, We're.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: Gonna go from North Carolina to California. Kyle's on the phone.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: What's up, Kyle?
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how are we doing?
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Good?
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 42:20
  Speaker 13: I I a little football also football talk here. I
• 42:25
  Speaker 13: got to plan my Christmas vacation plans, and my family's
• 42:28
  Speaker 13: going to go to Boston. Wonder if you guys had
• 42:30
  Speaker 13: any recommendations.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: In The Winner The Winner?
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Yeah, what was the question?
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, planning a vacation to Boston The Winner and
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: The Winner looking for advice?
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: What kind of stuff you're looking for? Are you with
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: a family with kids?
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 42:46
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 42:46
  Speaker 13: So as me, my mom and sister, I'm gonna be
• 42:49
  Speaker 13: my last Christmas in the States, just before I go
• 42:51
  Speaker 13: on deployment. And then my sister lives in Spain, so
• 42:54
  Speaker 13: we're gonna meet her halfway. We're originally from California. I
• 42:57
  Speaker 13: never made the Heaspost before.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: All Right, Well, I say North End, get some get
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: some Italian. Yeah, I mean there's a great One's.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: A lot of great food in and around the city
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: in Boston, North End, as Mike said, a lot of history.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much time you have.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: I would do the Freedom Trail, you know, as someone
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: who's never been here before, I'm assuming.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much I would do that. You know.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: In terms of outdoors, there's a lot of great skiing
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: areas up north of Boston. I don't know if you
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: have time to get up there, if that's something that
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: you be interested in. But there's there's a I mean,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: winter is not I wouldn't say the best time to
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: be in Boston, but there's there's still a lot of Ruins, gah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Bruins or Celtics go to the garden.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: So Fred, this is impressive. You got you got to
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: lunch order anyway.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Look at this Matt marine Matt anticipating his needs above
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: and beyond.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: The New England Aquarium is really cool if you want
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: to do that.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: It's kind of smelly, though smelly, well fish, it's humid.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: There'll be plenty to do.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Newberry Street if you want to go shopping in
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Newberry Street. Fangel Hall.
• 44:07
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  Speaker 4: What is a Patriots free agency plan?
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Flurry of moves to open NFL free agency.
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  Speaker 2: Carlton Davids maybe their top.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Two corner there, Morgan Moses solidified the offensive line.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: These are Vrabels, guys someone who watches ball.
• 48:27
  Speaker 16: Nos, No, no, no, that's a dog right there.
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: Teams shut is really getting after this offensive line?
• 48:37
  Speaker 17: Is there?
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Tough, big physical player. There's a tough team now go anywhere.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Patriots have been known for winning for a long time.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: For them to want me and bring me into this
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: organization and be a part of that, I couldn't find
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: nothing better than that. Man. I'll probably say that was
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: the best day of my life. You really can't even
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: put it into words.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: We are extremely proud.
• 48:56
  Speaker 18: I personally never dreamed of a moment like this or
• 49:01
  Speaker 18: the super Bowl.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I dreamed of it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: I feel like I knew what was gonna have because
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: he put the work in.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: It's his time.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Having my family there, you know, they see all the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: work to go into it. You know a lot of
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: stuff that go all behind the scenes. It was big
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: to just celebrate that moment with them. Like I said,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that was the biggest day of my life. That could
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: have been a better moment for me to play a
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: better game definitely.
• 49:22
  Speaker 19: You know what excites me is just a long history
• 49:24
  Speaker 19: of just winning here.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Man, I'm all for that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 19: But also a head coaching Mike Rabel man a players
• 49:32
  Speaker 19: coaches out there, you know, holding bags for the guys,
• 49:35
  Speaker 19: and just a leader of men that's willing to step
• 49:38
  Speaker 19: aside and put itself on the line for the better
• 49:40
  Speaker 19: good for the team. It's an easy decision, I would say,
• 49:43
  Speaker 19: just the historical past this team has had all the success,
• 49:48
  Speaker 19: thinking about me growing up as a kid and seeing
• 49:50
  Speaker 19: the Patriots win.
• 49:51
  Speaker 20: Multiple Super Bowls, just that championship culture us.
• 49:55
  Speaker 17: Here being part of the historic franchise as something that
• 49:58
  Speaker 17: is near and dear to my heart. I can't wait
• 50:00
  Speaker 17: to add my.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Legacy to it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 17: I got to play for coach Vrabel eight years ago
• 50:04
  Speaker 17: at Tennessee, and when I found out I was gonna
• 50:07
  Speaker 17: have the opportunity to play for him again, I was
• 50:09
  Speaker 17: I was truly excited to get out here.
• 50:13
  Speaker 19: Just be a part of something that's bigger than yourself
• 50:16
  Speaker 19: is the ideal way of just coming out here.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: And just being a Patriot.
• 50:19
  Speaker 20: And I felt like, you know, it was an easy
• 50:20
  Speaker 20: choice for me to be able to come back here
• 50:22
  Speaker 20: where it all started, you know, where I met my
• 50:24
  Speaker 20: wife at BC and really where my career took off.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: I feel like as a.
• 50:27
  Speaker 20: Football player, Patriot players so that they always respected the
• 50:30
  Speaker 20: organization and the work that came with it. Man, just
• 50:34
  Speaker 20: being in that stadium just gave me some goosebumps or
• 50:37
  Speaker 20: what it can be. I'm excited just to do it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 14: Mac Collins underrated, big physical player.
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: If he plays for your team, you gonna love him
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: because it maybe thirty degrees below there.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: He ain't got no shoes on.
• 50:47
  Speaker 17: I want people to push me to be the best
• 50:49
  Speaker 17: I can and I think that's got in the philosophy
• 50:50
  Speaker 17: that coach has.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, the Pats were very busy today.
• 50:56
  Speaker 21: It ended up working out at a lot of different positions,
• 50:58
  Speaker 21: you know, particularly on defense, to get a lot of
• 51:00
  Speaker 21: our top targets and guys that we really felt comfortable
• 51:03
  Speaker 21: with that would fit our culture and fit the scheme
• 51:06
  Speaker 21: and fit what we're trying to build.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: The New England Patriots. I believe you have something brewing,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: something big up this league. When it comes to the
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: wide receiver position.
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: Don't be surprised if after making some of these big
• 51:16
  Speaker 12: moves on defense, there's a push also to get Drake
• 51:19
  Speaker 12: may some help as well.
• 51:20
  Speaker 22: You know, Coach Grave is real convincing, but he had
• 51:22
  Speaker 22: a career that's something that you can attest to of
• 51:25
  Speaker 22: all work and being a part of something specially so
• 51:27
  Speaker 22: tough hansome. When I got the call, it was kind
• 51:32
  Speaker 22: of like real simple, the more formative to the fact
• 51:35
  Speaker 22: of going somewhere new.
• 51:36
  Speaker 23: Competitiveness, the confidence, the plate demeanor, the consistency. Those are
• 51:40
  Speaker 23: things that excited us as a veteran wide receiver that
• 51:43
  Speaker 23: can come in here and help us.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Nice to meet you.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.
• 51:47
  Speaker 14: We've been waiting for have some of your son's caliber.
• 51:53
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 51:53
  Speaker 18: He always want to win.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: He always going to work hard.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: He always going to see the players on his team
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: get better.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: He's just a leader.
• 52:01
  Speaker 22: Individual accolades always will follow with the success, and I
• 52:05
  Speaker 22: think individual success breeds team success. I feel like this
• 52:08
  Speaker 22: is where God placement and this is where I'm supposed
• 52:10
  Speaker 22: to be. So I'm gonna give it everything that I
• 52:13
  Speaker 22: got and I want to win real, real bad. Everybody
• 52:19
  Speaker 22: that's excited, grab your popcorn, grab your jacket, let's get
• 52:23
  Speaker 22: to work.
• 52:29
  Speaker 20: Well.
• 52:29
  Speaker 21: I think the main thing is just finding people that
• 52:31
  Speaker 21: fit our culture, just some professional players to show some
• 52:34
  Speaker 21: of these young guys the right way to do it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 21: And we feel like we really accomplished that at a
• 52:37
  Speaker 21: lot of different positions, all the while still preparing for
• 52:40
  Speaker 21: the draft and getting ready, you know, because obviously that's
• 52:43
  Speaker 21: a big foundation piece and what we're trying to build
• 52:44
  Speaker 21: as a draft and developed team.
• 52:46
  Speaker 18: You know, you're gonna hear a lot of people and
• 52:47
  Speaker 18: I believe it as well. You like to draft, develop,
• 52:50
  Speaker 18: and then retain your own because those are the people
• 52:53
  Speaker 18: that you've poured the most into, you know, the best.
• 52:55
  Speaker 18: And then free agency, though, is another way to address
• 52:58
  Speaker 18: issues on your team.
• 52:59
  Speaker 21: We just like we needed to create competition throughout the
• 53:02
  Speaker 21: roster and fill some of the holes so we'd be
• 53:03
  Speaker 21: able to be more flexible with our draft strategy.
• 53:06
  Speaker 18: And this year's free agency for us is probably going
• 53:08
  Speaker 18: to look a lot different than next year's free agency,
• 53:11
  Speaker 18: and I think that's what you have to take stock
• 53:13
  Speaker 18: of as you go into the free agency process, which
• 53:15
  Speaker 18: kicks off really roster building season, is what are the
• 53:19
  Speaker 18: things we need to address the most what can set
• 53:21
  Speaker 18: us up the best to be able to take the
• 53:23
  Speaker 18: best players available in the draft, and year to year
• 53:25
  Speaker 18: that might change, you know, it just becomes one of
• 53:27
  Speaker 18: those things that the draft develop and retain. Is a
• 53:30
  Speaker 18: great concept, but if you draft well enough, ultimately you
• 53:33
  Speaker 18: can't pay them all. So that's why it's got to
• 53:35
  Speaker 18: be a constant shift. And we just have to be
• 53:36
  Speaker 18: intentional about not only the players that we sign in
• 53:39
  Speaker 18: free agency, but who those people are, because, as I
• 53:41
  Speaker 18: said before, the people make a big.
• 53:43
  Speaker 21: Difference filling a lot of those needs through free agency
• 53:46
  Speaker 21: and again just opening up that flexibility for the draft
• 53:49
  Speaker 21: so we can take the best player available at each pick.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: The way they practiced, a lot of effort to.
• 54:11
  Speaker 23: Finish great teams go out to practice at different feats.
• 54:13
  Speaker 23: That's just what we're gonna do because that's the only
• 54:15
  Speaker 23: way that our identity can take off.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: This is professional football. This is your job.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: You're not on scholarship.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: You don't get a red scrat year. The better be
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: all right, you're not tough.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: You have a hard complaining this way? You mean you
• 54:31
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• 54:32
  Speaker 2: You got like two steps decided to get out.
• 54:34
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• 54:42
  Speaker 15: We can remember it, but we can also work together, all.
• 54:45
  Speaker 17: Right, big weekend Sun turns twenty one.
• 54:51
  Speaker 23: We're in this business to win and to help players improve.
• 54:55
  Speaker 23: I think that they embraced the change.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I would have fit with two hunh. But like, I'm
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: blessed to do this, So I wake up with that that.
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  Speaker 9: Grind every day you taught them.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: That's only plus only thing what you thout.
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  Speaker 17: I think I'm gonna score, and then I never I
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  Speaker 5: Director produced a nineteen seventy one film with an up
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• 55:47
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• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Who's the up and coming movie director?
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: He said, Francis Ford Coppola, No in that.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like there's two different guys, right, Yeah,
• 55:55
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  Speaker 2: How did it go this week? Did I miss anything?
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  Speaker 5: I got close enough to where I was going to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: pour them into the water, a boat came by, blasting
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: Creden's clear water Revival's fortunate Son.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: I was at the most serious.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I was at the most serious.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: I was going to be when I heard it ain't me.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: It ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, and I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: had him laugh.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: That's so there you go. Maybe it's kind of I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: don't know what life in the fastening would have met
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: for those.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I find those things kind of fascinating. How many times
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: something like that happened.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I went to one ashes dump off a boat
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: off a long beach a long time ago.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: It all went fine, But it's you know, a little serious.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: So have you thought about, like what you want to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: do after your demise, Like do you care if they
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: burn wife?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any You don't care. I don't either.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: No, I'm going to be cremated just because I don't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: want to be a prop bother for.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Anybody where Oh I didn't. I haven't specified that. I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: don't really care about that either.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I have thought about, like not necessarily like reincarnation, but
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: what happens to you sort of your soul? Like can
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: you actually can you watch do you like do you
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: look down and do you like sort of revisit your life?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: See, I've thought about this too deep.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think, like what am I just
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: a pretty face?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: No? No, no, But I think in that dimension, in that state,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: you have to forget about your senses. You have to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: you have to forget about seeing, hearing, smelling, touching, tasting.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: They don't exist anymore. So whatever whatever it is that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: happens to you in that pool, ain't. It's a different
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: way of perceiving things that we can't understand right now
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: because we're so you know, dependent on our senses to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: take in information and then our brain processes it. We're
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: not going to have that anymore. So it's it's different.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 8: It's different, like looking at some old clothes, maybe the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: like I would love to be able to sort of
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: re experience my own life.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not necessarily saying I'm going to be able
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: to watch everybody regrets, but like I.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Should have swung at that that third strike, like that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: was you. That's that's my biggest regret.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know if it would be
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: able to like just look down upon the world and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: watch everything, you know, watch your kids grow up or whatever.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that's not necessarily something I would watch,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: but I wouldn't mind being able to experience my own
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: life and look back at the things I did right
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: the things I did.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Wrong, and think that would do that now you know.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about more vivid fighting. Yeah, it's called reflection.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: Well see, I might like my think the compliment is
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: like is there really time? And like everything's all happening
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: right now anyway, so like once you're.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: Back over to the other it is, it's not like, oh,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: we're still in twenty twenty. It's like it's all there's no.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: I would hope that i'd be released if I wouldn't,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: because like I go to the next level, like leave
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: this life behind.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah and do something else. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll figure it out someday.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Release me from these mortal coils.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, Father Fred? Was that a Father fredline?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: No, that's Shakespeare, that's Hamlet.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: Now you could have.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Still you might have heard of them.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: So shoot, I just saw something the other day where
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 8: it was it was a show I think that they're
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 8: doing that reminded me a.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Lot of Father Fred Crud. I wish I had snipped it,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: but I think it was something like that, like Crud.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: I'll find it.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: I'll try to get it for the next show.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to check out the documentary,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: the Jazz Documentary?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: I did, Thank you Paul for asking. Very good, very good?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Did you did you?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't find like I learned. I mean this might
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: you know, might be a me problem. I didn't find.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I learned a whole lot.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean we're already a doctor at peace.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Boy Capello put something on his Instagram saying it was
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: it was good, and I agree, it was good. It
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: was well, it was well done, I thought. But he
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: felt like there is another one and he put a
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: link to it, so I was going to try to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: there's more in it.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah all right, but the one you had to cancel
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: a fan event.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's too bad. We were well that was,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: you know, in fairness to them, like it's fiftieth anniversary
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: and you know, Roy Scheider's gone, Robert Shaw is gone, like.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: This the Shark is gone.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean, good call, good call. But
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the one thing that that I did find interesting in
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: this was how few Hollywood people were actually in it.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, and me too.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 13: I know.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: They said the basics like five people like the mayor,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 8: the three leads, Lorraine Gary and I think what the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: like the writer who is one of.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: The none of the nobody's ever ended up being anybody,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: and Christy Watkins.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Christy Watkins, you know, Susan Backlany, I think her name.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: She was actually a Hollywood actress. But most of the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: people in it were either like locals that answered the ad.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I think that even the deputy, who had a pretty
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: significant speaking role.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: It really makes it seem like real people, right.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: Well when you think, when you think about it, the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: last half of the show is basically a one could
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: be done on a stage of Broadway.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Well they've done it, Yeah they have. Yeah, it's it's
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: a show. Now the musical back to pat Patriots Unfiltered
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: on TV. Our producer for that is a guy named
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Don Maxon, and he actually went and saw it. I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: think Robert.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: Shaw's son, I think, is the one who produced.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: A couple highlights for me were just first seeing the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 8: actual mechanics of the shark that they built and how
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: exactly because I've seen plenty of diagrams, but to see
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 8: how it kind of worked and how it didn't work,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 8: and then there were just a couple of shots from
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: uh when Alex Kittner gets eaten and when the when
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: the robot guy gets eaten that they show footage of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: what those attacks could have looked like.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: So you know the one.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 8: Fred where the guy's coming over in the rowboat to
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: the kids, so that death. Initially the shot is just
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: Michael kind of head on and you get the feeling
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: that the shark is like maybe.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Gonna swim by him. But in the footage they show
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: it was like the guy was still in the shark's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: mouth and then it like pushes Michael, so Michael's like
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: getting pushed by the shark while the guy is still
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: in the shark's mouth, which is a lot more traumatizing.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: I mean still seeing a.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Guy get back in front of your commentary is like, yeah,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't even send that to it.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: But even the Alex Kittner won too, which is it's
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: been on Facebook a lot that that was supposed to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: be a lot more graphic attack and instead they chose
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 8: to spoo it out slowly and give you little glimpses here,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: so you don't ever quite know what the shark is
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 8: until that last shot or that shot when it comes out.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: You think like if if Jaws had never come out,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: the movie just didn't exist, and it came out now
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty five, do you think it would be
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: a lot better back.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: You mean, like it was made, like it was made
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 8: with modern technology and modern.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Technology and like things.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: No, I don't think it could because they digital it
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 8: and they and then they could be a certain point, yeah,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 8: they at a certain point they would.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: It just wouldn't have that authentic feel to it.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, obviously the guys that were talking about
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: that line of thought were biased because they were the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: guys that were involved with making the Shark and yeahing
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: those kinds of things, and they feel like it definitely
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: would have suffered. Cgi. Even James Cameron I thought was
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: pretty interesting. Well, I'm talking about some of that stuff.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: James Cameron made one of my other favorite movies, Aliens,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: which in eighty six was all practical too. At one
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: point when I was in California, I heard Stan Winston,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 8: who did all the effects for it before you before
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: he died, speak and you know, he said, you can
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 8: go back to eighty six and this all still holds up.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: It still looks like you are in the movie. He's like,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 8: I watched this stuff now that we do with the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: digital effects, and it takes you out of it.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: But maybe, like I'm.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: Not even saying that if they did it now, they
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: would resonate with people. Maybe the shark would be you know,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: the physical shark would be that much better, and maybe
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: the script would be more hard, hard hitting, Yeah, like
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: more swearing or more realistic.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, in the right hands, I think you're you're right,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: Like if there was somebody like a Spielberg who wanted
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 8: to build a modern shark and really do it practical
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: to James Cameron.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: Because I think it's hard.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: To get scared of things that your brain processes.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: As that's that's a computer digit like.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 8: But there's something about puppetry and when it's done well
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: that it really looks real and it doesn't take you
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: out of it. You still think that that shark was
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: as bad as that shark was and as mechanical, they
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: did an amazing job showing it just enough to make
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: I thought some of the things that they were talking about,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: like the marine biologists and things like that, talking about
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: how it would breach and then go to the side
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: when it was attacking.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: That's extremely realistic the way that they shot some of
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: the scenes, and that's exactly.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: How a great white would attack. It's prey. Uh huh.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if they knew all that when
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: they were doing it.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: Was it was there a clip there was somebody called
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: it the perfect movie.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 8: I think it might have been Quentin Tarantino. But I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: was just laughing thinking to Evan, who was like, yeah,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: it doesn't hold up.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Oh I was, I was.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: It was so funny. There was a lot of those,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: and again they didn't get the people that didn't like
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: it to participate in the documentary. There was plenty of
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: people that were not, you know, involved in the project
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: who spoke like.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 8: That, yeah, well what's her face Emily Emily Blunt, which
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: I like, what's she doing here?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: Jesse writes in for Pomona, California, can't wait to hear
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: the excitement from Fred during training camp.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: It gets me pumped.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: Paul's persuasiveness to not get my hopes up, Deuce's optimistic
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: attitude on the defensive side of the ball, Alex's insight
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: stories of all the new players, Evans wrought talent to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: explain what's going on out there? Uh practice practice practice
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: question Week three against the Steelers. My wife and I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: will be there to watch the game. It'll be our
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: first time traveling to Boston. What and who will you be?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: Great, so there's no question after that.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: What and who would you be willing to trade for
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin? What you want second round pick McLaurin.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: No, you're not going to get them for that, okay,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: but I'd be willing to do that. Well, I mean
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say you're not. That's not fair, Like you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: never know. Maybe they just get tired of it and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: they want to make a move. I would think it
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: would be a first round pick. But yeah, I would
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: give up a first round pick from Yeah, but I would.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: It's hard because I don't know exactly how good that
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: they expect to be. If they think they're going to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: be like this ten win team that can make the playoffs,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: I would do that.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: You over the top, Yeah, gets you into that.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe make sure that we're going to win double wins
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: and you know, because there's still I think Fred's concern
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: about the wide receiver spot is valid. Yeah, I do.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: I think that they might be missing still at that spot.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Do you think, like the NBA is famous for future
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: picks future draft picks, and the NFL does it a
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: little bit, But do you think like when it comes
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: to first round picks, the league will ever start like
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: take a thing like this, I don't want to give
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: him next year, but I'll give him a first round
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: pick two years from now, And that might ever become
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: a thing in the NFL.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's regimes changed so quick. It's with lower
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 8: round picks, Yeah, they do.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Like you hear about that once in a while, with
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: lower's second round pick this year, it's next year.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's usually like a year. But like there's no
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: like really looking into the future.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Like like no, Like the NBA is ridiculous.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: You think the owners are resistant to that because then
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: it might handcuff a future coach from doing what they
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: need to do. So you know, yes, somebody come in
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: and they clean you out of your draft picks for
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: the next four years, and then their.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: Horror could help a future coach.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: You know, if they get the town, you're getting the pick.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: You know, I just be careful.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: I think I just think that's the easiest way to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: stay good is to draft well and if you keep
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: your picks and you're you know, don't go chase the
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: car and try to chase the shiny object. If you
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: stay the course and you just have solid drafts everything.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: Like to me, like, let's just say that you lose
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin and you don't get a first round draft
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: pick for him for like two years down the road,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: that still is now an asset in my pocket.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have to I now can use that.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: First round pick to do something I wanted, you know,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: So I would love to see them start trading these
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: picks like that a little bit more. I think it
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: would open it up for teams to exchange players a
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: little bit.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's it feels a little bit like putting
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: it on the credit card and yeah, we'll worry about
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: that down down the road a little bit.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: The first round pick, the first round pick, you know,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: it could go up and value or could go down
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: at value.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: It's hard to project too, because what what's that like?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: Are they going to be terrible in two years and
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 8: that's going to be a top five first round pick,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: or are they are these moves going to allow them
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: to get a Super Bowl and that's going to be
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: a thirty. I mean, it's a huge disparity between what
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: the value might be and even harder to project that
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 8: far out.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: Spi and Fresno. Here's a little game I call sleeping
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: with the enemy. I'll list pairs of sports foes and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: you have to choose which one you side with, not
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: saying you're necessarily root for either in a competitive context,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: just picked between them in terms of which you like
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: or respect more. At a gut level, it's not who's
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: your worst enemy, it's who's your best enemy?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: Peyton or Matt Magic? Peyton?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Who do I likening?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: Vers Menage John?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Who do I like more?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning?
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah? But uh, Marianno or Jeter Mariano Rivera.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Let's talking about Mariano Rivera.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Terrell Suggs or Richard Sherman.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 8: Uh Sugs Shermans a bad guy.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Sherman's kind of allowed a bad bad guy. Yeah, didn't
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: you like throw bleach on his girlfriend or somebody?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: Sherman?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Ray Lewis or lt.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Oh do I like more? That's tough Ray Lewis, That's
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: a tough one.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: Though.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: Here's a trio to rank Mike Tomlin, Rex Ryan, Andy Reid.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: Oh, in terms of like yeah, Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: Rex Ryan, Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: That's how I like all those guys.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: I would go Andy Reid, Rex Rex Ryan, Mike Tomlin.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, Kevin Colbert or Bill Pollian, Yeah, Tom Brady or
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. Bill, we need to do that one, Eric
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: Scalavino or your many rescue dog with active rabies.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: That's the that's come on, that's just poor to me.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course we take the dog.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Let's see.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: Let's go back to the phones. They're piling up here.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: People are waiting patiently, I might.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Add, Oh, and especially for this one.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: You can't Virginia, what's up to see?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: Oh God, how you go doing?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: Good? Good? I wanted to talk about what John. We'll
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: talk about that first, Like the first part of this
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 9: segment about there's probably not get certain kind of winds
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 9: or whatever, like you gonna look at it. Most don't
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 9: really perfect for real, some of the things you guys
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 9: mentioned or whatever you got talking about. I mean, there's
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 9: a uh, this is gota come to dital Smith or whatever.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: Because he was at pianos. He was throwing through and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 9: like the Locket, Uh a good book. I can't probably
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 9: putting his name at Calf. Look, we're gonna be throws
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: to in in oplan.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Brock Powers and Jacoby brock Bowers might be better than
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: any of the guys who was throwing to in Seattle.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Brock Bowers might be better than anyone he was throwing
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: in in Seattle.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but you have to have multiple guys though.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Jacobe Myers, they had two and you have the
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Raiders have two.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: He might have one of the most dynamic running backs
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: in the league.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: We don't know yeteah, I mean, I'm not telling you
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: what the Raiders are going to be because like my
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Boyfeller girl likes to say, I can't see the future.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen. But on paper,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: they have the makings of a decent skill crew. That's interesting.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Chip Kelly there as the new offensive coordinator. That could
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: absolutely work. Like you know, Tyler Lockett was at the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: end of the road Smith and Jig but was a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: good slot receiver and DK Metcalf was kind of a
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: one trick pony. Yeah, they have brock Bowers and Jacoby
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Myers's to me, that's comple That's comparable and gent he's
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: better than any running back.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: Then I believe the Patriot.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see. Yeah, well I hope. So we talk
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: about Max Crosby.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: They didn't they didn't last year. That's you know, that's all. Yeah,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: but they have absolutely improved on paper defensive, so that
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: some guys that should be better than what they had
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: Shawn.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Right now, the Patriots are favored by three in that game.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: So the odds makers sound like they agree with you.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: Right now it's three and a half.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Well you say that, that's you don't have speakers, don't
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: have the time.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: Person for the most part is Meca and I'm.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Good huh yep.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: And and we've got the best cornerback duo in the league.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: So that.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, all right, you've convinced me one and
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: oh one and no, Deshaun, thanks for the call. Let's
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: go to Dan and Poughkeepsie.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: What's up, Dan?
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  Speaker 12: Hey guys, are you guys playing another game?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Overall? Was up for games?
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: I would love to play playing games.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 12: All right. It's called get that player. I'm going to
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 12: describe a play in Patriots history. All you have to
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 12: do is get the Patriot involved.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: Paul will the spotlights on, Paul, Yeah, all right, go ahead.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 12: Right so first twenty fourteen AFC Championship game against the Colts.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 12: In the third third quarter, a sixteen year touchdown was
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 12: caught by this non receiver to expand the lead.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Nate Soldier.
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  Speaker 25: Yeah.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 12: Nineteen ninety three, Week eighteen versus the Dolphins. In the
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 12: fourth quarter, one fourteen left in the game, Drew Bledstone
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 12: conceded an eleven yard go ahead touchdown to this player.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, go ahead because.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Right, Michael Timpson.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: It was actually Ben Coates be okay.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 12: Twenty sixteen, Week fourteen against the Ravens. First quarter, this
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 12: player jumped over the center to block a Justin Tucker
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 12: field goal.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: Shane McClellan, Yeah, that's correct.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 12: Wild Card versus the Jets, second quarter. Vince Player caught
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 12: a touchdown pass in the back of the unzoned seconds
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 12: before halftime to help it make seventeen to ten.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I remember that, I love Jabar Gaffney.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 12: It was actually Daniel Graham.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, took a shot and then this is the last one.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Can't win if you don't play hard.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 12: Nineteen eighty five Wild Card versus the Jets, third quarter.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 12: Vince player recovered a fumble and returned it fifteen yards
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 12: for a touchdown on a fumbled kickoff.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, jos, Cidrick Jones, is that the right answer?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: I just watched this. I should know, CG. Jones.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Now I was going to go Jim Bowman, but Deuce
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: was going Ciedrick Jones.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: It was Johnny Rembert.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I remember, now you should I shouldn't know.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 12: I know.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: That's a good game. And I love excellent good stuff.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: Excellent game. Not an easy one, yeah, not a couple though.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Let's see who is this person? Somebody named Christian in La.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: What's up, Christian?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, hey you guys. Hope you guys are having a
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 9: great summer.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 25: I just came back from taking my kids up and
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 25: driving up and down the coast of Oregon. Great this
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 25: time of year. Just didos and kind of chick out
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 25: the coast, and I hope you guys.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Just plays the hits every time you went a convertible.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Were you guys in a convertible.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: On the coast, But we were in a Tesla Tesla.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: On the way down. You just stopping wine country A.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: Little bit.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 9: Eleven year old and thirteen year.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: Old with kids, so they swam with the Do you
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: had an anty taking them?
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 9: Right know, dude. From a guy's perspective, it was good talk,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 9: you know, the guys to young guys, just trying to
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 9: seeing how their heads are these days as young or
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 9: a different than when we were young.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: Have you had to talk yet?
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 25: No, because I think that they're they're kind of seeing
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 25: that stuff in the intering that thing, and I want
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 25: to figure out how to approach it from beth respectus
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 25: like we were young Turty magazine under the uncle's you know, mattress, so.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 9: There was a greater way to talk about it. I'm
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 9: trying to figure that out still, Okay, all right, sure,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 9: I'm mad at you guys. I got a boot to
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 9: pick at you guys because and it goes with this
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 9: call earlier. But someone that said they weren't happy with
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: him wins And it kind of sounded like my call
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 9: like a couple of weeks.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't you. It was on a
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: different show, right, I brought you up.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 25: I'm saying it kind of sounded like my call that
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 25: you guys and the rest of the callers gave me
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 25: up about with my call. It was with a great
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 25: season or a good season, and I said, for me,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 25: a great season would need to be getting always Tama
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 25: Ways and getting a playoff when you guys gave me gup,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 25: and I thought about that. Here's why I'm angry at
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 25: you guys. If you guys look at low into it,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 25: since it's some places like a Jets fan or or
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 25: a Cleveland Browns fan where you're like, they're the last
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 25: two years really had four wins.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 9: So yeah, it lookd be great to get eight, nine,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 9: ten wins. That would be a great season. No, we
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 9: are coming off of twenty years, twenty years of excellent.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 9: Look to me as a Patriots fan, I expect to
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 9: get back to that. Eight wins, nine wins, that's a
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 9: good season, ten wins in a playoff game.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: So this didn't have anything to do with the call
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: that I was talking about then, because you got the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: guy that called on our show when I was on
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: with Zoe and Tim mccoon last week, said it would
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: be a bad season, not a good season or a
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: great season, a bad season. He's not interested in winning
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: ten games. He thinks that would not be good. He'd
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: be upset with that is what he said. So we
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: really didn't have anything to do with this call. Yeah,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: and it's not the same at all.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 9: He probably shared some of what I'm feeling.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't it sounds like you think that
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: would be good. No, you think you think ten wins
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: would be good. We think it would be great. This
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: guy thinks it would be bad. So it's really got
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with what you're saying at all.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: And Plus, if you really think they're going to get
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: back to the dynasty, I mean we all hope they will,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: but is that realistic?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 20: No?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: I just would caution you to just instead of worrying
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: about the twenty years that happened twenty five years ago,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: happened about why don't you focus on the last five
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: years and what happened then and then say you wouldn't
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: be happy with ten wins? Right?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 9: Not that focus in the last fight. That's not who
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 9: we have.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: Been, But that's who you are. So that is who
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: you are.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not who I was twenty years ago, and there's
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: no sense.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: Worrying about twenty eighteen. Yeah, that was a long time ago.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't say anything about satisfaction. I said, that's who
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: you are.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 9: I could be satisfied.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't say you should be satisfied. You can do
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: whatever you want. As a fan, I don't. I don't
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: tell people what to what to feel, and what to think,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: but I think that people have a warped sense of
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: what is actually a successful scene.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: Wanting to win super Bowls is different than expecting them
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: to win Super Bowl.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, the goal is to win a super Bowl, but
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: the reality is you're not in position to win a Super.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 9: Bowl team if you have nothing to draw on like
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 9: other teams. I can see how you guys are feeling,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: but we do have something to draw on.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: No, you don't, not recently, you don't.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Do you ever won a playoff game since twenty eighteen.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: If our roster was the same roster as twenty fourteen,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: I'd be right with you.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: But it's not.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: These are a whole different players, different coach, everything's different.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 9: Look exactly what I'm saying. We got new coaches, and
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: we supposedly did a kind a good draft. So yeah,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 9: the expectation that we are getting back to what we're
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 9: supposed to be, that's what We've got a new coach.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: What's the what's the empirical evidence that you have that
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: they will get back to where you think they should be,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: which is dynasty.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 25: My empirical evidence is that supposedly they've hired the right coach.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: Well, you just you just entered a.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: Word into the conversation. That's not a miracle. You said, supposedly.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about hard evidence. What hard evidence do you
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: have that they are now a Super Bowl contender.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 9: It hasn't happened yet, But that even hasn't what you thought.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 13: Haven't even happened yet.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: I know, I know, but hasn't happened yet. It brings
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: something else up that you guys used to Thanks Christian,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: another good try to troll everybody.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: You guys used to browbeat Andy and I when we said,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: you know, there are other teams that have had successful
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: runs during the Remember we talk about like, you know,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: the Eagles going to four NFC Championship games in a row,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, they didn't have to say the Colts.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Were and were not for the Patriots, they would be Colts.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: And now with Kansas City's doing and we've been mocked
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: and ridiculed for pointing out that other teams have actually
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: been successful too, because quote, no one will ever do
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: what the Patriots did over that twenty year span. Right,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: how many times you hear people say that, Freddy sure,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: that will never happen again. Now I'm supposed to think
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: the Patriots should be back to doing that, Right, You
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: guys spent two decades telling me that no one will
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: ever do that again. It's the greatest dynasty in the
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: history of sport and it will never be delicated with
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did. No one will ever
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: do that again. And now I can't be happy unless I.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: Get back to that, And to expect them to do
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: that is diminishing what that was like. The fact that
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: you think it can be repeated so quickly takes away
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: from how amazing that was.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I'm going to be happy to win
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: ten games. If they happen to win ten games this year,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not expecting them to ever have a stretch of
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: dominance over a twenty year period that they had. I'm
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: not expecting that. If it happens, great, but I'm not
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: going to sit there and say I'm not going to
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: be happy unless it's going to be like it was
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: back in the day, because I want to enjoy my
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: team like I'm not going to like expect something that's
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: so un realistic that maybe it's like lightning in a
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: bottle and it happens once a lifetime.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: And that's what I was just gonna say, you'd be
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 8: lucky to catch lightning in a bottle. Again, there's a
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 8: handful of teams that consistently are in the running for
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 8: Super Bowl, but I would say a large majority of
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 8: super Bowl champions are really made out of teams that
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: have two or three year runs where they're really good,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: and they have Super Bowl this year, I'm not going
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 8: to be happy because that's only one right.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: It's a good start, and it's a good start, it's
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: something to be excited about going forward. But if they
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: don't do it for twenty years, it's not the same.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: And to the main flaw among many in Christian's argument
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: is that this team has done it before. No, it
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: hasn't a team named the Patriots did it. This team,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: as it's comprised, has never done that before, has never
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: done that before, and there's no evidence right now that
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: they can do that. To want that, we all want that,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: but to expect that again is completely crazy.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be disappointed for the rest of your life.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: And that's where Christians. You know, first of all, I
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: don't really believe that he believes this.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 12: Ing.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: If that's what he's wanting, that's you're prerogative as a fan,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: but you're never going to have a standard that you
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: want to reach. But I don't think that's ever going
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: to give you any fulfillment because I don't think it's
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: realistic that they're going to have another twenty year run
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: that's going to duplicate what they did, and.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: How many teams just want one, They just want one.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Kansas City is not even halfway there, right, I mean,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: they're halfway there in terms of Super Bowl titles, but
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: they're not halfway there in terms of twenty years of dominance.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: Should you not be happy if you're in Kansas City
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: because it's pales in comparison, or are you happy because, well,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Kansas City's never done it so they don't know, Like,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: it's not a complacency. I don't want to be a
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: bottom dweller, So if they can move themselves from a
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: bottom dweller to a playoff contender, I would consider that progress.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Absolutely no one likes four and thirteen seasons.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 8: I mean, with Joe Cardona out the door, there's nothing left.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 8: There's nothing left from that wild run. This is completely
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 8: new and how lucky you would be if it's.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: Gonna be the next seventh season removed from a playoff win.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: It's a lot.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I said, that's what you are. We're not
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: the twenty years that happened from from all one to during.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: The dynasty, we were pulling our hair out because it
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: was ten years since they'd won a super Bowl.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, during that ten years, they were.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: In yeah, they were in super Bowls. They were in
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: conference championships every ye week. They go eleven in conference
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: championships in a row, something silly like that.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: But our expectations back then was we haven't won one,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: which okay, eleven.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: To eighteen, you know how many whatever that is nine.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: Because you were always close every year. But we're so
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: far removed from that.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: Like no, no, good, good try Christian. But he is
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: a like a next level Oh he gets he gets excited.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 8: Well if you can embody the spoiled Patriots fan and
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 8: be like, you know, I have unrealistic exce but he's.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Good at it. Like even like he starts off, I
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: just you know, the drive down from Oregon, like it's
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: definitely and I do I appreciate it because, as you
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: guys know, I like to be snarky. I like that.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 8: That's you know what's another part of the though, Fred,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 8: I don't think that we as like the players like
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 8: all these players like they have no concept of what
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: that Patriots teams like, they.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: Have no connection to it.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: A guy like Robert Spelane has been, you know, slowly
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 8: working his way up, and he is superhull.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: Pepper who's never been on a winning team. I mean, right,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: do you think he'd be happy to go ten and
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: seven thrilled? Make the playoffs feel like he's part of buildings?
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: And yes, that shouldn't be your ultimate goal, but babe,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: you know, we got to get.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: To a level of respectability first. James James writes in
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: Army James at North Carolina Army, thank you for your service.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: If that's true, Hey.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Guys, longtime custon of stealing valor.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: Well, he says that's a shot at Marine Matt, So
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he's kidding or not.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: I guess army versus Marine? Maybe is that what he's saying?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: That much? Oh, long time listener, long enough to be
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: confident that the Africa book never came out.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: I think, be confident confidence.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: I'm excited to get a chance to see the legit
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: talent on this team. With experience and the coaching staff
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: and some luck, hopefully we can sidestep the ever present
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: injury bug. What depth moves can be made before week
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: one to most prepare us to play next Man up ball?
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 8: Grab another edge, Grab one of the veteran edges that
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 8: are out there, just a little somebody's played support, build some.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: Depth that'll help you play next man up ball. Yeah,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think that's just a place where you
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 8: lose one guy and it's it's gonna get hard to
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 8: play next Man up ball. You're gonna quickly be putting
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 8: guys into you know, positions that.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: They all stay healthy. I think they'll be okay. But
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: that's one place I think you pull the thread. It
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: unravels pretty quick. Paul's pawn it brought up left tackle.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's I don't know if there's.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Anything generally, because one of them is thirty four fives, yeah,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: and the other ones, you know, just starting his career,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: and I don't I think if you lose either one
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: of them, you're right back where you were last year.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm hoping that maybe different coaching staff can get
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 8: different results.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Of Maybe Kayden Wallace is a better right tackle this
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: year than he was last.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 8: One of these more prepared something, you know, something emergency.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 8: You know, can Kad and Wallas just be the swing
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 8: tackle where Yeah, it was like Cam Fleming, like a
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 8: guy who just like you know, when he has to
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 8: go in there, he's fine like you.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't fall apart if he has to
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: go in there. And there was the kid, Uh do
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: we have two different Jacobs tackles? I know, Dimantra Jacobs.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: There was another one that was seventy two.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: Might have been the Jacobs they got really him.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Like it kind of fell apart when he had to
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: go with Yeah, yeah, I don't remember his name. I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: don't mean to be disrespectful, but you guys know, if
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: you ask me something from nineteen eighty two, I can
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: get you. He asked me something from last year, I can't.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, when that kid went in, it kind of deteriorated.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: So you want to get to a point where you
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: have a little bit better options. And I think if
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Cayden Wallace, to Mike's point, turns out to be a
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: good solid swing tackle that you know, I don't have
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: to I can set it and forget it. If he
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: has to go in, I don't have to change my offense.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: That would be a great sign.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Dylan writes in says I wanted to clear up
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 5: the gatekeeping take from last week. Since Fred doesn't read
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: my emails, I can't read them all. It was presented
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: somewhat disingenuously that some fans gatekeep the Patriots fan base
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: if you're fans of other teams such as the Yankees
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: and Bulls.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: That's not true.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: What actually happens is that when the Celtics or Red
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: Sox do good, the crew talks about it, and then
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: fans have to write a call to say stick to
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: the Patriots because not everyone is a fan of all
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: Boston sports. And in that case, yes, we're better than
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: you anyway. Red Sox ten in a row, baby one
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: hundred million less than the Yankees, and we have the
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: same record. Drake may will be top ten quarterback this year.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: Book it okay, hope don't. I don't understand what he's saying.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Why does it make you feel good? That you spend
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: one hundred million less than somebody.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: What do you make? What did you get from that?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Paying your most expensive tickets in the league? But what
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: it's a lot in it for you.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: Then, But do you understand the last part of this?
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: The crew talks about it, and then fans have to
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: write or call to say stick to Patriots because not
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: everyone is a fan of all boss and sports. I
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: get that, and in that case, yes, we're better than you.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: Who's who's us? We are better?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: Who's we'd like?
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: Patriots fans like who like the I this is something
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: that happened last week. I don't know. There's gatekeeping things,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: so I don't know the origins. Well it's it's but
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: I take it as he's talking about fan Patriots fans.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: Fans don't like the newcomers.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: They key there are no long time Patriots fans. They've
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: been around since week three of All One.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: Well the band they don't like the Bandwagon fans.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not your fans.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: You don't understand.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: And he's another email.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, he's just thinking about the health of Richard dry.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: I told you for we worked with Richard Dreyfus who
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: was kind of painting the butt. I've heard that a lot.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: I've heard that a lot.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: It just seems like very smug and arrogant, kind of
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: like Jason Alexander.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: Sure, oh yeah, Like Jim's really going downhill with.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: Commercials and George. Yeah, I wonder if he had some
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: bad investments that he's trying to chase now, because I
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: agree he's been in some like commercial money's passing.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: Do you think like he.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 5: Or Michael Richards ever calls Jerry say he could you
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: give me a little bit of money?
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, I know you and Michael, what.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: Do you think about getting the band back together?
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: You know, can you do some type of fundraiser for me?
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: Because the other two are highly successful?
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 8: You yeah, right, But if George is doing commercials and stuff,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 8: well we were just talking about the type of commercials
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 8: are like, you know, but.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: He's probably making some pretty good money.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: Doing Oh sure, but like still like.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: And Michael Richards got himself in some trouble, right, oh yeah,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: he got kind of cant.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: He got I don't even know if he lives in
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: America anymore.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: Really.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: Sean's and Vancouver on the Hotline what's up Sean.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 10: Hey Paul, I'm your age and I've been on a
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 10: Patriots fan for as long as I can remember, so
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 10: that's a way before two thousand and one.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about what they're talking about, the Johnny
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: cum latelies. Oh yeah, there's a lot, that's what they're
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: railing against. Not I mean, obviously I grew up here.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: I've been a Patriots fan my whole life.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So I just want to
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 10: talk about Jaws of that. You were mentioning that there
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 10: weren't a lot of big stars, but when when this
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 10: movie was before it actually was shot, the initial budget
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 10: was was four millions, so they didn't expect it.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: To be Can I just interrupt it for one second, Sean,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: they actually had big star Like Robert Shaw was a
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: big star. They didn't have any Hollywood actors. There was
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: I believe seven.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: Yea like all the supporting roles.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: Most of the people that show up on the movie
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: were not like professional actors and actresses. It was as
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: Mike said, it was Robert Shaw, Roy Scheider, Lemaine, Gary
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Richard Dreyfus, Carl Gottlieb and Chrissy Watkins and Susan murk
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: Lee and the mayor Murray Hamilton. Murray Hamilton. That was it.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Everybody else was like either an extra or a local
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: some some sort. They weren't like Hollywood actors and actresses.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: But the ones that they had were good names, like
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Richard du Roy Scheider and Robert Shaw especially, they were
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: big names.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 10: You know that they were Paul, there were people like
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 10: that were really raking in the box up. So and
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 10: this is Pielberg's second big movie, like his circulant expresses
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 10: when it was coming off, but he didn't have the
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 10: the a name that you would later get.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: You know, well, I think not having like the huge,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: huge superstar.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: I think at the end now you know, in hindsight
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: helped the movie. Like it wasn't like you don't remember
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: the movie for Paul Newman or Robert Redford. You know,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: you remember the movie for like what happened in the movie.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and then the box office was like huge. It
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 10: was way bigger than any other Americans fult made in
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 10: that con seventy five minutes. It actually became the first
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 10: summer blockbuster. Yep, that wasn't a time when big movies were.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: Even released, absolutely true.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, okaying, all right, thanks Sean. Do you
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: remember where you were the first time you saw Jaws?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: No, you don't know.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: I really I was. I was on the cape. I
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: just don't remember. I don't remember the specific problem movie.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: I probably like so many times, or Hyennus something, because
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: that's where we used to go.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: I really don't know if I've ever seen a theater either.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I kind of want to go next.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: I was in the theater and it was packed, and
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: we sat in the very first row, and I was
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: a kid, you know, and like.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: When that head popped out of the boat, you.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 8: Know, it comes out Friday, last Friday, August, and I'm
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 8: gonna be tempted, and we all come in here if
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 8: it's a slow camp day.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: Hello yourself, young fellow. Hello, Yeah, that guy that's Ben Gardner. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that I was. I was fifty seven
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: years old when I found out that that was Ben. Yeah,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: I learned.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: I learned that recently too, that that's theme.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: I did not make the connection. It was the same guy.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's the same guy doing the I got
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 8: their mothers down and doing the whole speech on the
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 8: boat going on yep.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: Uh, let's see, let's go to Atlanta. Raised on the line,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: what's up?
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 13: Ray Hey?
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 14: I yep hey piggedback on what you Wall was saying, Paul,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 14: and I agree with everything he's saying because it's not
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 14: about being uh pestimistic, you know, it's not about being
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 14: a Debbie downer. But it's like, we have yet to
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 14: see what they're gonna do, you know, because it's like
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 14: it sounds good, you know, seeing the videos and seeing
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 14: the practices and stuff like that, but it's like if
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 14: that no one's executing, then there's gonna be another terrible season,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 14: you know. And we're all hype it's gonna be more
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 14: greater than its gonna be better than last year. But
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 14: they still have to put in the work, you know,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 14: because we can, we can have a super team, a
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 14: super squad. But it's like, okay, now what you're gonna do?
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 14: You know, And it's not about just being negative, it's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 14: about being realistic. Don't be delusional, you know, we're not.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 14: You know, our goal is to not stuck. But it's
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 14: like we have to call it how it is a
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 14: spade of spain, you know, and they just have to
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 14: execute and we'll be somewhere clear to the playoffs and
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 14: you know, but all that unrealistic stuff super Bowl, you know, playoffs,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 14: we just got a see. Yeah, you know they have
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 14: to execute. So yeah, any givens Sunday. But let's let's
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 14: let's be real and I agree with everything y'all saying
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 14: to y'all rocket.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks rays Ray, I appreciate it.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: That's why I kept bringing up empirical evidence, like you
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: can hope and think and supposedly and all that stuff,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: but right to expect to get back to where that's.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: A week from tomorrow. It can stop being so much
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: just speaking about this Mike Fable Patriots and we have
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: no idea about was start to get some.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: Actual but that can actually change too, Like once the
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: season gets underway and you have a team that you
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: know had modest expectations and all of a sudden, wow,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: it's it's clicking. The offense that we've not seen, as
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: Mike said, in the entire time that he's been here,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's scoring you know, thirty points
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: a game. Well if that changes expectations, right, Like I
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: didn't envision them having this kind of a high powered offense.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: I knew the defense would be better, but now the
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: defense is really good, and all of a sudden you
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: go from being happy to win ten games to well,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: why are we going to stop at ten games? So
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: we can change? Expectations can change. But Fred's word about
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: empirical what have you seen already to lead you to
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: believe that that kind of a jump on offense is
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: going to happen? To me, there's only one thing that
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: can possibly make that happen, and that's a meteoric rise
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: by the quarterback. That's what happened in Houston two years ago,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: That's what happened in Washington last year. No reason why
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: it can't happen in New England this year.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: I feel like the opposite has been happening the lastew years.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: We have to adjust my expectations the other way, and
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: I you know, like I don't know, they might be
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: around five hundred, and then you start to see it
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: in September and you know that it's not going to
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: go that way.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: But that's the fun of it. And that's another part
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: of it. That and I've been trying hard not to
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: do this, but like the optimism around and everybody keeps
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: saying it right what they're going to do that they've
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: brought in Vaybel and they have this excitement and this
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: is a lot of the stuff that we were talking
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: about last year before we actually saw it, Before the
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: season actually got underway and they couldn't move the ball,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of talk about optimism and a
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: lot of talk heading into the season. I could I
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: eight nine wins a lot. Yeah, I'm not going to
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: call out all the different media guys that did it,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: but there were a lot of local media guys predicting
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: eight nine to ten wins last year until they actually
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: saw the team play, and then you're like, oh, I
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: don't think they're as good as I thought they were.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 21: Right.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 8: It's like, if you can't have that kind of optimism
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 8: when you get a new coach, then I think you're
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  Speaker 8: really in.
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  Speaker 4: A bad place. I think like some of it is
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: just a function of and yes, the past history of
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: the Patriots and their success, that's a very high bar
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: of what success looks still looks like around here.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, generally speaking, the expectations are what they
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 8: are right now, What are they going to be in
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 8: a month from right now?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: They might be a little bit different.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: We'll see how the injuries play out and all that.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: Some emails from last week, kind of following up on
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: some things that we were talking about Joe and the
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  Speaker 5: darkness rights In. I was saying how I didn't think
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: that the uniforms as they currently are that bad. I
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 5: didn't like the blue on blue, but other than that
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: they're fine. But Joe says, Fred, You're dead wrong about
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 5: the uniforms Blueberries aside. The twenty twenty uniform redesign is awful,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: unprofessional and unbecoming of this franchise, easily a bottom five
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: uniform in the NFL, change asap.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: Do you feel that strongly about it?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 8: I don't feel quite strongly that that strongly about it,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 8: But I do feel very strongly about the uniforms that
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 8: they wont Super Bowls, and that's what I feel strongly about,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 8: and I'd be open to a lot of different options.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 8: I think that's great when teams can mix it up
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 8: in that. I just my bottom line is that I
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 8: think the Dynasty uniforms need to have a place in
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 8: the rotation.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: Okay, Ali and Tennessee rights In, She said, I hired
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: a technician to fix my Whirlpool washing machine. And I
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: asked him, as a professional, what washing machine brand would
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: you recommend? And I laughed and he instantly answered Speed Queen.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: You should really get a Speed Queen affiliate link. I'm
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: a new homeowner since the off season, Fred, what are
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 5: your other tips or hot takes as it relates to
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: the home?
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: I trust you.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: Well, I should do it, Tian right now.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 8: I saw a video on YouTube where they're going around
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 8: asking car mechanics what kind of cars you buy?
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: And every single one of us is Toyota.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: It's like it's the first every mechanics, I have a Lexus.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: It's the third one I've had, and it's not the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: high end one. I have one hundred and seventy six
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: thousand miles on it. It runs like a piece shot
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 5: no I know, but like all I've never had a problem.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: They are made so well.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 5: There's really good value in Toyota, which is Lexus than company.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: For everybody that I talk to in that business, it's
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Toyota Honda for you know, every day you know, and
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: if you want a little higher end, it's a Lexus Lexus.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: I've always wanted a Lexus SUV, but probably never going
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: to have that, but Toyota and Honda's last forever they do.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: Yep, let's see uh.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: Sean writes in from Bolton in the UK. I love
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 5: the offseason shows. They have a nice mixture of team
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: talk and over the stuff like soap and a rope
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: to bin collections. Looking at this season, I hear a
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: lot of people going on about eleven wins and making
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: the playoffs.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: Please stop.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: I see six to seven wins, but a big improvement
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: in how the team plays.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: Don't forget.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: This is still a rebuild, but with this management team,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: we will get there. And congratulations to Evan and Beth
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: on their wedding. Plus, how do I get hold of
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  Speaker 5: one of the p U T shirts over here in
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  Speaker 3: And any update on the T shirts? This is gonna
• 1:46:45
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  Speaker 3: Okay, in this meeting. Oh so the meeting isn't about
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: T shirts.
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  Speaker 5: It's not a T shirt me Okay, all right, sorry
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  Speaker 5: about that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't heard anything about this. Well, I haven't
• 1:47:19
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• 1:47:24
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• 1:48:01
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  Speaker 2: Some minor news here. Smith, Trey Smith, the lone franchise
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: tagged player, has signed in the extension with Kansas.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: City paid guard.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: So they have the highest paid center and guard now
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: in football. But seemed to be a wise use of
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: resources by As I've said in the past and will
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: continue to say, the cap no longer matters.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 8: What was Tuney the highest pig guard when they when
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 8: they paid him, was that deal obviously?
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was up there, yep, and they traded him.
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  Speaker 4: They traded that.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: They traded him to Chicago.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I didn't know if he became a
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: free agent need But yeah, let's see Longino is annoyed.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: By that guy from LA. Man, that guy Christian from
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 5: LA is really something. And it's crazy to think that
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: there's many others with that mindset where now we're expecting
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: super Bowls and going back to a dynasty because of coaching.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: In a few pieces, We've been horrible the last season
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: since Brady left, and now we're rebuilding at the moment
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: and have something to look forward to. Hopefully we can
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: get back to relevancy and start winning. I think he's trolling,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 5: but still he's very triggering and needs to stop calling
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: he is.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: He's good at it.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 4: Felder would love this guy in his shop.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: I give him credit because I think he's good at it.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, just imagine them, like a season where Patriots make
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 8: the play layoffs. You know, they get a playoff game,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 8: they're on the road, tough, tough game, down at the end,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 8: they lose in the last minute.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 4: We come in for the postgame show and we're like, wow,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: you know that sucked. That's a tough way to go out.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: But what a season, you know, like, you know, just
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: that sucks. He's call it me like when they're an
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: idiot if you think that was good, Like in twenty
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: one when Mac Jones was the quarterback. Now you can
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: have varying degrees of sort of enthusiasm and excitement for
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: the future. But who was saying that the twenty twenty
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: one season with a rookie quarterback winning ten games was bad?
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: Who was saying it was bad? That's the call that
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: I got on the radio, is that would be bad,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: not good instead of great, like Christians saying it would
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: be good but not a great season. The guy who
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: called in on the sports Hub said it would be bad.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: Right, differently, don't do it.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: So maybe you looked at it in all fairness here
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: the way I did in twenty one, and I didn't
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: think they could get to you to win games despite
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: the quarterback, right, So I wasn't overly like way, do
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: you see what happens next year?
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: Well, they got smoke too in the finale.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: The right, and they got smoked by all the other
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: teams that they played that had a pulse that year
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: that didn't have twenty seven guys on the COVID list. Right,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: you know, Baker Mayfield playing with a separated shoulder and
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: the Titans coming here with like Deannest Johnson instead of
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry in the backfield. To know, there's a big
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: difference with what they faced. I didn't expect that to
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: happen the next year, and it didn't, and it didn't
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: happen again the following year. So you can be excited
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: about it, you know, with tempered enthusiasm, because I'm not
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: sure that that's sustainable. But to say that it's bad
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: that they won ten games, No, the twenty one season
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: was a good season. They went they went to the playoffs,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: but probably wasn't a great year, but it was good,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 8: To continue that postgame conversation, they probably continues along, all right, well,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 8: now they've got a second place contract, you know, second
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 8: place schedule next year, and it's gonna get harder. Yes,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 8: they made some strides this year, but they got to
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 8: go find the guy at edge or they got to
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 8: go find the guy at receiver either, like.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: The But what I thought building you know, again, this
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: goes back to a whole bunch of team building things
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: and why teams that tend to knock it out of
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: the park and free agency in a year it's generally
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: a one year bump and it goes back down because
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: all these owners are very similar and Robert Craft said
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: it at the time that we're not going to be
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: able to do that every year. And he's not any
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: different than every other guy in that league. So you're
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: going to go out and spend two hundred and fifty
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: million dollars in guaranteed contracts one offseason. You're probably not
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: going to do that again the next year. That's why
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: it goes up and down, because they needed to fill
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of holes, just like they need to fill
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of holes this year. They've done a lot
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: of that. They're gonna need to do it again next
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: year if you want to continue to go on. The
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: rise goes back to.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 8: A point I wanted to make earlier that I didn't.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 8: It was just that there's a real need for some
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 8: young players. We talked a lot about the offensive line
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 8: Kadan Wallas, young players who haven't done anything yet that
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 8: still maybe have some promise to step up and build
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 8: some of the depth.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: They can't rebuild the whole team.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 8: They need some of those guys from the last couple
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 8: draft classes that haven't done much yet to step up
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 8: and provide some of that depth. Maybe some of those
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 8: guys are going to get thrust into bigger roles because
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 8: of injuries or whatever. But that to me is the
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 8: bit a big wild card for this camp. Dude, does
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 8: anybody rise up? I connected to what I said to you,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 8: Fred about your offensive line thing. You know, it's a
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 8: good sign if you know a City Sow or a
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 8: Kayden Wallace or a Leyden Robinson or you know my
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 8: guy Jalen Poll if it was some of those guys
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 8: that disappointing didn't quite get over the hump last year
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 8: can come and start to contribute. Then you feel like,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 8: well we have a little bit of a core, a
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 8: young corps that gives you some room to make mistakes
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 8: in the draft and not have to well, we got
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 8: to fill everything now, you know that's what's hard for
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 8: me right now.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: Find some of those young guys to step up.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: Mike and Florida writes in you mentioned it today or recently,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 5: but I haven't heard anything lately. What's going on with
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 5: our new defensive coordinator? I heard he's very highly regarded,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: but also.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: So he's got some illness.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: Can you tell us about him and some of the
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: other new defensive coaches and give a health update on
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: the new DC? Well, I do hear that he will
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: be back for training camp. He's not gonna be running sprints,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: but he will be here.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good news.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, clearly has a big connection with Mike Frabele.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 8: You've seen probably the clips now where he talks about
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 8: Mike Frable. Personal relationship, big reason why he's here as
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 8: much as an opportunity to being defensive coordinator. Had a
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 8: tough year, I mean, I don't want to say had
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 8: a challenging year in Detroit last year, had talent, a
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 8: lot of injuries.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: But he's got a little bit of cross section experience
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 4: in some different systems as well, and he's a big
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: part of wal why I'm excited. I hear, I hear.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 4: He's a good teacher.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: He's a good coach.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 5: Like I don't know how as a coordinator he is,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: but like he's a good coach.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: People who he's coached that you know he teaches well,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: I learned a lot from him.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 5: So that's you know, you got Christian Barmer still relatively young,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: ke On White's still relatively young.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 4: They have a lot to learn.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's one of the it's one of the handful
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 8: of unknown elements from the spring, something we didn't really
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 8: get to see at all. I mean, it's and it's
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 8: probably the biggest piece that we haven't seen yet is
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 8: the defensive court.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: And I think it is good news if Fred is
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: right and Fred's intel is accurate, because I think that
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: that's been an underrated problem with some of the coaching
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: issues that they've had in the recent past. You know,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: the year that Adrian klem was was you know, how
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: to leave the team for a while when Bill O'Brien's
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: running the intil it's not an ideal situation to lose
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: your coordinator or even if he's there, but you're doing
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: it on zoom calls and whatnot. You know, some guys
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: have a hard time learning that way. So the best
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: case scenario, obviously for Terrell Williams, first and foremost is
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: personal health, but the best situation for the entire defense
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: would be to have him here full time. As far
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: as what he is as a coach, I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: I never heard the name until we hired him as
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: the offense the defensive coordinator, I never heard of him,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: so I don't know what he is as a coach.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: Mark in Connecticut, what's up? Mark?
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  Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. As always, I
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 13: appreciate it.
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  Speaker 10: Well, Hi, I don't know if you guys have talked
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 10: about this, but Traveon Henderson I believe is still unsigned,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 10: and I can't believe that Mike Brabel would want to
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 10: go into training camp, you know, with a distraction like
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 10: of that. I'm not sure what's going on with that,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 10: but I know a lot of the second round picks
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 10: are not signed because of guaranteed money and everything. Yep,
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 10: but I just wanted to get your guys to take Yeah.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: I mean thirty out of the thirty two are run signed. Yeah,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: you definitely want to get that done. But I wouldn't.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't get too concerned about it. You know, this
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: happens a lot.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: You know, unless he's not here. Well, yeah, if he's
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: not here at the start of camp, I agree with Mark,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: that's not ideal.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: But your guy Remandre will step up. You said he's
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: going to have a better year.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: No, I know, but you want, Mike say, I think
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: is important is to have some young guys emerge into rules. Sure,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily I know that both running backs,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: I don't see them playing in the same position. I've
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: said this a lot, a lot. I think he's more
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: of the pass catching type in the change of pace
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: running back reminder, Stevenson is the every dollar back. But
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: you need him.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 5: Here, I agree, and he needs to be here for
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: his own development. But of all the things to be
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: worried about.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not that worried about that. It's part of it.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's becoming an interesting league issue. I mean
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: that I was.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 8: I wasn't a couple of weeks ago, but you know,
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  Speaker 8: now it's it's starting to develop into a thing. I
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  Speaker 8: think it's less about specifically Trevian Henderson and the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: It's more about the second round pick for the Chargers
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  Speaker 2: is now officially a holdout. He's one of the thirty
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  Speaker 2: that second round picks that are unsigned today.
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  Speaker 3: If he's not here Friday, he's a holdout, right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, right for the Patriots. Yeah, yeah, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: Friday is the rookie reporting day, right, Yeah. I mean
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  Speaker 2: even if you want to say next Wednesday, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the official start of camp, if he's not here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know how you could just say that
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  Speaker 2: that's that's no problem, you know.
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  Speaker 5: He the caller said, you know, I don't don't want
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  Speaker 5: that to be a distraction. Do you think it'll be
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  Speaker 5: a distraction if he's not here?
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  Speaker 8: I know, I agree with I don't think of any
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  Speaker 8: rookie at any position I want him here as much.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely bad. First and foremost for Trevon Henderson into a
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  Speaker 2: much lesser extent the offense. But I don't think it'll
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  Speaker 2: be a distraction.
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  Speaker 8: And it's also enough again that you can point to
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  Speaker 8: league wide this is an issue.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well they don't have that's not the
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  Speaker 2: same thing.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know they don't have to be.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to be under No, but he's got to
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  Speaker 2: be under contract to be to well, he doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: to be, but my guess is he will want to
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  Speaker 2: be under contract. If you get hurt, then you're really screwed.
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  Speaker 2: My guess is it'll get done. This is going to
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  Speaker 2: be something with thirty guys involved. Like if it was
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  Speaker 2: one or two guys that were holding out, I'd be worried.
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  Speaker 2: But thirty guys, they're all waiting for the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: My guess we'll figure out a work around.
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  Speaker 2: In general, I think Fred will be right. Here's the fall,
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  Speaker 2: all right, that's one of those.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be fine, It'll be fine.
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  Speaker 3: All right. That's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: Is Evan going to do a cash twenty two this.
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  Speaker 2: Week or no?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that the edict was you will not be
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  Speaker 2: doing it.
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  Speaker 4: I would put it past.
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  Speaker 2: I know he would know, he'll try.
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  Speaker 3: It's all right, but moving back on Thursday.
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