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131. Otho and Urzokk return to Mythic Legions and they are glorious. · The Euro Legions Podcast

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  My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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  I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
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  It turns out that Attila the arrogant so and so he's got a
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  fake hammer. Oh.
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  A fake? Yeah.
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  Whoa. As I say, Dick.
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  Welcome to episode 131 of the Allegiance podcast.
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  This one's going to be an Auto and Erzak appreciation society,
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  I think. Yeah, finally we have some
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  Mythic Legions nostalgia today. Isn't that right, Rich?
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  It is. I'm very exciting.
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  I before I even got my child breakfast this morning, I was
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  straight onto mythic conversations, seeing what the
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  reveals have been. So sure.
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  So a good parent I am. Yeah, it's very exciting.
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  Well, I was what I was laying in bed watching it at 7:00 in the
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  morning. So I hope Jeremy enjoys that and
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  you, Mel. Yeah, I I woke up early, so I
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  just stuck it on. And then he ended up just sort
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  of starting work early with it on in the background.
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  So yeah. Oh, nice.
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  Yeah, you had to work from home day.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Hope.
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  That's early for a reveal day. It was a, yeah, a nice thing to
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  wake up to. Excellent.
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  And we also had a little bit of ox crew, all insurance or
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  shipping. Look at that out of the presses.
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  So all, all the Orleans have shipped.
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  So I got an all in. Haven't got my ship and notice
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  yet, but I'll take the word for it.
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  I guess we get the ship and notice when the gate starts to
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  get picked up by the Courier or whatever.
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  Yeah, you're in the same boat now.
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  Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
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  Rich, you're in the retailer track.
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  I'm in the retailer situation and it's October.
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  The 15th is a street date apparently according to my
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  retailer. So a little bit of weight but
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  not the end of the world in a month or so.
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  I. Don't know.
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  And depending on how long it takes to get from America to
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  here, I might only get like a week.
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  After this is this is the one the other way to mood?
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  Yeah, yeah, they're not, are they?
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  This this is the one where I bought the All In from the
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  Horseman with every intention of buying a second All In from
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  Emporium, and by the time I got round to it they'd sold out.
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  Well, the good news for you Mel is that judging by this
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  timeline, they should have these at Legions Con.
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  Yes, bring a little bit of extra room in the suitcase or recruit
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  someone to breast ship some stuff.
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  Yes, I'll be picking up another Kern ray for sure.
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  Yeah. Yes, I'm looking at that screen
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  game. I need two more lawyers, two
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  more bellocks, another all of our two more Thraxians and
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  another curtain. So that's eight more I'm fitting
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  in the suitcase. I need to get them in hand
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  before I know for sure what to do with them.
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  A case of OR virus and maybe a few Thraxians.
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  Yeah, now I have them. The Euluria and the Veloc ones
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  will be the basis for my space vampires, so.
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  Oh nice. So I've got 4 heads ready to go.
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  So have. You painted everything yet?
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  Yeah. Yeah, Derek Stringer had a He
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  paints some wonderful vampire stuff, and he had four.
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  I bought more than just four things off him, but four of them
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  had vampire heads. It would work perfectly for
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  cosmic vampires. Fantastic, fantastic.
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  Well shall we get into auto owners luck?
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  So firstly, did you guys think there would be more than auto?
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  Yes, I think we discussed on the show and we always presumed at
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  least 2. Otherwise seems a bit pointless
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  doing the reveal. Did you think they mentioned?
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  I'd mentioned before that I thought it'd be Ozok And then
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  when they showed that white walk head last week on the Armory
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  thing is like, what's going to be Ozok?
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  Because that's clearly a new sculpt that we've not seen
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  before. I remember a long time ago when
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  we were talking about legions con exclusives at some point,
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  probably not this year. I did say it would be cool to
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  get an auto erzak 2 pack. Now that's I'm not trying to say
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  I'm master dam is here anything It's pretty obvious, but you
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  know we're not getting a 2 pack here.
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  We're getting two single figures that are going to be sold
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  together in the first drop. Well, we'll get on to that.
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  You know yeah, but eve all probably if you're interested in
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  those he probably watched this horseman.
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  So you kind of get it, but we will try and explain it in our
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  language again and and mouth you you do you think it was going to
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  be more than auto is even more than these?
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  Two Yeah, I I just got a wounded.
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  If we did, we'd perhaps get like a little mini wave perhaps at
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  this point, but which we did, but just two rather than I
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  wondered about four. Didn't I think I said to you
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  about chats. I didn't know who no idea who I
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  could have been other than I think like everyone you go well
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  or Otho when her Zox talks about a lot in with him is an ESO and
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  well Arathea versus the Odysseus and all that.
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  Yeah, true, true. Yeah, I thought, I thought we'd
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  at least get one more that that little orchid last week in the
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  Armory builds. Turns out was a new orchid.
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  Sorry for all those people that were insisting it wasn't despite
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  despite everyone else having eyes.
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  But yeah, turns out it was a newly sculpted vampire.
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  Or sorry orchid. Yeah, maybe a vampire or vampire
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  and there's. Always umpires, John.
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  I was sure we get one. I thought we might even get a
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  third one to kind of make it a little bit more.
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  But now that I see the way they're doing it where there's a
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  bit of in stock and a bit of pre-order afterwards, it
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  probably makes sense to keep it fairly tight for the numbers.
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  Because if they have to gauge numbers on these two and which I
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  guess the demand for these would be broadly similar, maybe Otto a
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  bit more given how rare Herzog is as well.
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  But although is really the big the big one for the secondary
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  market, although that doesn't always translate when it comes
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  to All Stars, but I think it will without and especially now
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  with the the version 2. So yeah, maybe it was a good
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  idea that they'd get the numbers right with these two together.
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  So here's Otto, do you want to read the new by?
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  This is an updated by Omal. Yes, slightly modified, isn't
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  it? But yes, I will do.
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  Known as the greatest warrior in the army of Lee Odysseus, Otho
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  is the second in command to Leander's king, Attila Liasi.
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  Childhood friends with Attila and his older brother Atlas,
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  Otho dreamed of a day when the three of them would fight
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  together to defend the realm. Those dreams were shattered when
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  Atlas abandoned his place as the rightful heir to his Kingdom and
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  disappeared. Long positioned to be Atlas's
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  closest advisor, Otha was expected to be seated to his
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  right when he eventually took the throne as the new king of
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  Leandor. Of course, Attila would be the
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  leaseer brother to eventually sit upon that golden throne, but
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  he ensured that Otha would still be given the honour of the Blue
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  Seat, named after the fabled Blue Shield of the First Great
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  War. The duty of the Blue Seat was
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  accepted by Otho on his new King's request.
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  He donned the blue tunic of his station and served Attila as
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  nobly and faithfully as any could ask for.
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  However, in his heart, Otho has always questioned where Atlas
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  went, and secretly he believes that some Calamity Bill fell his
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  best friend forcing him from his home and his sworn duty.
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  There's some hints in that bio, isn't there?
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  Is to, you know, that I think it starts off trying to throw shade
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  at Atlas. Though I will say I think Trevor
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  must have helped write that first bit that throw shade at
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  Atlas. And then later on, I think
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  Jeremy got control back and started something.
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  Actually, Yeah, yeah. Tell us actually the Dick that
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  we think he is. I mean Attila is a Dick but I'm
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  slightly worried about his health now because I got a
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  feeling the book might reveal that the hammer gets put
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  somewhere by Otho. Where the sun doesn't shine.
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  Except who'd have funk that we'd have Otto version 2IN Hand
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  before Atlas version 2 I. Know at this point, yeah.
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  Funny, no? Maybe it's certain in a few
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  seconds none of us will have them.
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  But you know, assuming everything goes to plan and you
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  know there's a reasonable window of them being available on the
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  site, I guess we should say they're going to be sold as a 2
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  pack on the 15th isn't it? We get into the times exact
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  times later, but that's the only way you can get them first and
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  they will be shipping directly and then on the 19th, assuming
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  they're all sold out, there'll be a pre-order and you can order
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  as many million as you like after that.
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  And pretty cool here. Dimension of the Blue Seal
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  Shield and we're getting the Blue seal shield soldier and
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  coming soon in the is it ashes of a Bender wave?
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  Yeah. So we can make a kind of a
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  grouping with auto. So that'll be a way to build out
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  your troops as well as any Armory Knights you might have.
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  And you know, I suppose all those with the helmet see so
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  soft goods here doing a bit of heavy lifting, apart from the
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  new, the new head sculpt of course, which is very similar to
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  the old auto head sculpt, but it's a new one.
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  So I think it's what you get. I think, you know, you talk
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  about sort of soft goods doing the heavy lifting, but I think
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  they've become now an integral part, haven't they?
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  Have the night build anything, unless it's a fully armoured
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  build, anything with sort of cloth even like it just, it
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  needs to be soft goods now with these new sort of parts of the
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  skirt and the T-shirt as I'm going to call it.
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  I know it's not meant to be with us.
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  A fit, isn't it? Yeah, Yeah, it is.
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  But we got the the round shield here as well with the the
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  Odysseus little small disc with the kind of the Odysseus symbol
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  on it. Very cool as well.
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  It's great, isn't it So really understated as well with that's
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  really cool little central boss. Do you not?
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  Do you not think, and I put this to Rich as sort of historian of
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  the three of us, the sheet, it's got a bit of with that lion and
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  the patterns a bit sort of maybe Roman vibes.
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  Yeah, potentially. I mean, the Romans didn't tend
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  to go for Ryan Shields that much.
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  It was more of the the bigger oblong ones.
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  But yes, Greek. Or.
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  You could certainly imagine a gladiator in the arena having
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  something very much like that which.
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  I suppose works with that, yeah, affiliation with Atlas.
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  And you get the generic disk insert as well.
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  So if you want your auto to have the the Odysseus one, the fancy
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  one, and then you want your soldiers behind them with the
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  the regular looking ones, that's always a cool way to
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  differentiate them. Such a clever little idea.
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  I'd love to be in the meetings with these, with the team when
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  they come in up and go. Someone just goes actually.
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  What about a plane boss as well? Just in case we want to swap it
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  around and like, it's genius and it's absolute genius.
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  It will cost an ease. There we go.
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  Yeah, brilliant. How about a?
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  Generic head and a generic Shield piece in and we'll sell
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  hundreds more. I think that's where, you know,
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  having people that were, you know, originally coming from the
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  community, you know, talented people clearly that end up
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  getting a job with the four horsemen.
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  This is how these little things come in.
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  And I mean, OK, the horsemen are probably collectors themselves,
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  but so that maybe they would have done it anyway.
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  But this is a way to ensure it. There's people that are serious
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  collectors that this stuff working in, you know, their
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  dream job or, you know, close to it, and that they're saying, you
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  know, these small little ideas. And then the horseman's real
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  scale is listening. Yeah.
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  And doing it. Yeah.
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  You know. Yeah, well, and then Eric being
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  such an incredible artist as well, isn't it really?
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  Yeah, just a cool guy. You saw him on the stream last
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  night just to he's he's a regular guy with a lot of
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  talent, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  And he just, I think what it came across, it always comes
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  across, but I think even more so last night on the stream, Jeremy
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  stream was just how excited Eric is about it all.
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  Yeah. You know, these are just, at the
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  end of the day, it's just two figures.
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  He sculpts so many different ones, but he was genuinely
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  excited to do all the little bits and to get him out back to
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  people's hands. It's really nice to see someone
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  that gives up monkeys rather than some big companies who
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  couldn't get less. Yeah, but it's like a, you know,
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  famous sports person that when you kind of hear them being
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  interviewed and realized he's just sounds like me, except he's
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  extremely famous and talented, you know, other than that.
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  And that's always how Eric comes across rather than, you know,
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  these other sports people that are just like super aware of
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  their talent and extremely arrogant, which doesn't really,
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  eh, endear themselves to people as much, you know.
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  Yeah, big time. You know, even if somebody is
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  like a from a team that you hate, you kind of still respect
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  them if they're a normal regular person.
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  Whereas when they're arrogant, that's like, wow, OK, Rich,
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  you're you're different. Yeah, I know.
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  Let's go with most teams and leave it there.
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  Yeah, well, I mean, you're from like me, You're from a small
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  country, Wales, you know, we, we can get a bit bitter about it.
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  The big countries, you know. Excuse me, You have to live in
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  one of the big countries. I came to a smaller.
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  Country of fabulous footballing side.
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  I wouldn't have a word said against them.
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  Anyway, sorry, I'm taking this off track here.
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  So you got a couple of swords with scabbards.
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  Both swords have their own scabbard.
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  I mean, 10 out of 10 for that. And I guess the Necronominus
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  wave is doing a bit of heavy lifting with the with the stuff
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  here. You know, that's really useful
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  from that. I he talked, I don't know if it
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  is or not, but he the way they talked about the sword, the
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  biggest sword of the two made it sound as if it was actually a
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  new sculpt. Yes, OK, it looks like you wider
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  sword. It's Nemo.
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  The handle looks a bit different actually.
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  Yeah, it's. Got a different pommel on the
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  end. It's got the lion pommel.
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  On the end from the pictures here but.
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  I mind you the little 1 might be new as well because that.
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  Yeah, it looks a bit neatly, doesn't it?
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  Yeah, we're going to sound very inevitable here.
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  We did watch the stream, you know, so.
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  It was a hairy early for all of us from the sounds.
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  A couple of helmets here as well.
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  Two helmets. I mean, wow, you know, you get a
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  better look at one of them. Here is this one that kind of
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  comes down over the face and a face plate as well.
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  You see it there, the auto face plate.
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  Do you think they just in the 3D sculpting just kind of chopped
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  that out? You know, like you is if imagine
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  it being a cardboard or, you know, a kind of a.
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  We did physical sculpt, just chop it out.
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  He did actually talk about the fact that it looks a bit more
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  rounded than maybe. And not all the face plates will
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  fit because they kind of have to try and make it look like it is
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  the right head underneath that helmet, which, you know, you're
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  just like, oh, wow. Yeah, I suppose that's detail.
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  I suppose and just chop the front off and on.
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  There you go with, but that's what it's looking like.
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  I suppose when you, if you think about if you put on a motorcycle
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  helmet, it's going to squish your face back a bit, pull your
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  skin a bit and, and you're going to look a bit different and.
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  So we're on all the nights to be like, like you better helmets.
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  I would like to say I am. Sure.
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  At some point when we've talked about him, I said about giving
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  him a silver Lion's helmet, similar to Hydraulas.
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  I mean. They have.
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  Yeah, they're Attila V2, Well, Attila V1, but.
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  Then there's exactly that one, but they've done a Silver Lion
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  helmet. Yeah, so it's a Silver Lion
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  helmet and Kevin boots. Give us a comment on Discord
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  that the dreads don't fit in the helmet.
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  So you can plug them into the helmet.
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  That's how they observe that. Yeah.
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  That's about cool. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So you can see that here.
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  So I'm guessing that they plug into the head the regular head
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  sculpt as well, which is? Yeah, I've seen this, I'm sure.
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  Yeah, Eric said that he wanted to do the helmet which they were
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  referred to as the generic one, which is weird because it's a
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  really cool helmet. But they say they didn't have a
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  hole for the the dreads there because it's something they want
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  to just use as a generic helmet sort of thing.
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  Was this one so that we're not going to use on anything else
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  Let's you have a suitable hole in for the dreads.
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  Yeah, I think that's the assumption is if you have, if
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  you're using this helmet, it might be your extra auto.
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  So that's not really auto under there.
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  That's somebody else, you know, And if you're Brett and you lift
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  up the little thing, it'll be the fastest you've ever seen.
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  I'm sure you'll replace the arms with some bones.
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  There's a little behind view if you want to see how it looks
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  from behind. Yeah, that sword does look a
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  little bit fatter, doesn't it? Yeah.
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  Yeah, it looks very. Cool, actually like that.
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  It's going to be fun to get these and always fun to see the
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  accessories just laid out like that, including the the actual
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  head that you get. So again, half a hands back with
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  it as well, all your different options, expressive hands and
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  then the gripping hands with I assume the hinge plus the the
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  regular. Yeah, disconnect.
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  And the faceplate thing as well. Sorry, John, I'm just going to
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  say the faceplate thing is 3D parts makers are going to start
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  jumping on this. I mean, they've done it in a
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  couple of times, but nothing big so far.
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  But I won't be surprised if people really start going for it
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  in there. Yeah, the more and more figures
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  that are out there because of course, if, if it's hard, if, if
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  it's just a lot of hard to get figures with face plates or a
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  lot of expensive figures with face plates, maybe it's not
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  worth them doing it. But I think the the the scale,
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  if there's more of them out there to be more incentive for
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  the 3D guys to to make some Trevor, of course, with these
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  wonderful photo. So this particular one, I think
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  we we already saw pretty much back at legions gone a little
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  bit more, you know, text around it because they were promoting
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  the the line, the, you know, launch of this line.
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  So yeah, just great. Looks so cool.
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  I wonder. I'm guessing.
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  I wonder if they're Carver custom torches, and then I
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  wonder if the area is no fountain in the background.
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  Oh, it is yes, as well it is it. Looks exactly like it's.
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  Cool, isn't it? Yeah, it's cool.
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  We need to make some. We need to make something that
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  can go in the background of. A.
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  Finally, get get included in this line somehow.
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  We'll get some of those head sculpts and me and John, you can
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  just paint them to look like stone and just get backgrounds
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  there, so. Stick them on a plinth and be
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  like. Yeah, yeah.
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  Or I suppose if they get further into the horror line smell, they
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  can be just yeah, you should be dead.
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  Random heads on spikes. Yeah, yeah.
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  Pirate ship, Sorry, the ship will have things hanging off it.
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  Nice, nice. Yeah, Yeah, we didn't.
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  We need to talk to Trevor about that.
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  Was it probably nearly eight weeks time now by that long?
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  When people hear this, yeah, it'll be 8 weeks tomorrow, 8
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  weeks tomorrow as they're listening to this, that yeah,
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  legions come. That's coming around.
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  I need to book my park in at the airport and to do that now and
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  it's going to be like we only have the really expensive spots
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  left. There you go, Sir.
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  I need to remind my wife that she's agreed to drop me off to
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  the bus station at Hopper. Oh, morning.
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  That's not too bad. No airport would be worse.
• 21:28
  Yeah, you. Know.
• 21:29
  Yeah, no, I'll get there, get the coach over that way, so
• 21:31
  that's fine. And So what do we think about?
• 21:35
  Does he meet expectations? Does he exceed expectations?
• 21:39
  He exceeds, yeah. I mean, we'd already kind of
• 21:42
  seen what we're most of what we were getting.
• 21:45
  But he's, he's exceptional, isn't he?
• 21:49
  Yeah, I know that extra helmet with the the lion head is.
• 21:53
  Yeah, I think the extra helmets bring it over the top for me and
• 21:57
  you know, make it a extra special and just have a note,
• 22:00
  though none of us realistically have a note on this room from
• 22:03
  the start. If I had the one, I wouldn't
• 22:06
  still have it, let's be honest. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:08
  Or you're rich. Yeah, he would have.
• 22:12
  Had an oath of a snail. Did anyone ever own an auto No
• 22:17
  no. So he was very expensive from
• 22:20
  the time I went to it so. Yeah, I did earn an owner Nerzoc
• 22:24
  at one point, but then, oh, he vanished to get the pennies.
• 22:29
  Here's the comparison of old auto new.
• 22:32
  Now that's the prototype Auto, but I think they they they
• 22:36
  shrunk down the head a little bit from that prototype.
• 22:39
  They lost a bit of weight. I will say I do kind of hope we
• 22:44
  now get that otho head in the way that we've gotten the old
• 22:49
  the original Atlas head. So maybe recolour cosmic or as
• 22:54
  an old head in in a legions con or something.
• 22:58
  It'd be very cool to get the older head somehow, but you
• 23:02
  know, painted differently some way.
• 23:05
  But I think, I think the everything about the new ones so
• 23:08
  much better, isn't it? Yeah, even the axe.
• 23:11
  Look, it's just so much better, you know?
• 23:14
  Yeah, all the belts and stuff, you know, you expect to, you
• 23:18
  know, if, if a knight has dreads, he has all the other
• 23:21
  stuff, you know, he isn't like, oh, I'm going to do my dreads
• 23:26
  and then I'm going to skimp on all my trinkets and belts and
• 23:30
  you know, shield, shield adornments and so on.
• 23:35
  So I think it's appropriate. And he's a super important
• 23:37
  character in the story, as you heard from the bio.
• 23:40
  And you know, he's he's up there with the likes of Atlas, Rich
• 23:45
  and Dick, so I like. Looking at those pictures
• 23:51
  together, John, it just reminds me of my hatred for that
• 23:53
  original Acts. It's just terrible.
• 23:58
  I mean it would go amiss for an update, but I do like that.
• 24:02
  I think it was fine at the time, but when you saw, when you see
• 24:05
  the newer ones, yeah, I I tend to agree, Richard, But I, you
• 24:10
  know, I wouldn't ridicule it because it's, it's cool, you
• 24:12
  know? Oh.
• 24:13
  No, no, no. I mean, I've got figures on
• 24:15
  display with it, but still, you know, it's like.
• 24:20
  Not going to break it. It's a take a big effort to
• 24:22
  break that one. Now, let's be honest, that's the
• 24:25
  beauty of it. You know, some of these more
• 24:28
  fragile weapons, you need to be a little bit more careful with
• 24:34
  Erzak. Look at that.
• 24:36
  He looks good. Now.
• 24:37
  Let's be honest, that's all. Calmer, isn't it?
• 24:42
  Right now to give us a little bit of bioage.
• 24:44
  Yeah, OK. Give me a SEC.
• 24:49
  The highest ranking general in the Legion O'Hara, Thea Ersoc
• 24:53
  used an advanced intellect and cunning disposition, along with
• 24:57
  a natural affinity for violence and brutality to rise from the
• 25:01
  ranks of lowly foot soldier to Gorgo Ether blades.
• 25:04
  Most trusted acolyte Trained by the Awkwa Lord Vorthog, Herzog
• 25:10
  showed great promise from the start.
• 25:13
  After defeating all challengers who were sent against him, he
• 25:17
  was afforded extra attention by his trainer.
• 25:21
  Forto took the raw power of his young student and honed him into
• 25:25
  a nearly unbeatable weapon. Over time, Herzog and his mentor
• 25:30
  began to slowly grow apart. While the grizzled old OR grew
• 25:33
  more and more disillusioned with the Legions leader Gorgo Aether
• 25:36
  Blade, Herzog was enthralled with the black armoured war
• 25:40
  monger's commands. Proving himself invaluable to
• 25:44
  Gorgo's plans by leading the vicious unit forks known as the
• 25:47
  Urku to a resounding bloody victory sorry round bloody
• 25:57
  victory battle known as the Scourging of a Aerithon Fields,
• 26:02
  Urzoc found himself elevated well beyond his former trainers
• 26:05
  station. Now one of Gorgo's primary
• 26:08
  advisors and one of the few he truly trusted, Erzak was granted
• 26:13
  the ability to use his skills and his wicked weapons, Suede
• 26:16
  Gorgo, in his ultimate plan to return the fiery God of War,
• 26:20
  Arathea, to the realm of Mythos. Very good by all.
• 26:26
  I just spoiled it by getting excited about the Urku.
• 26:29
  Yeah, well, you recently, you recently picked up that Urku, so
• 26:32
  I understand you know now. Now you've got a nerves up to
• 26:35
  put beside it, yes? It's.
• 26:37
  Going to that's going to look great on the shelf, richer on
• 26:43
  mute, and so really cool here. The amount of Vorthog mentions.
• 26:50
  Did you know the mention I really like and it's going back
• 26:53
  to an old theory of mine? He's a raw power of his student
• 26:57
  and honed him into a nearly unbeatable weapon.
• 27:00
  Arakan Voorthog's got a couple of moves left that he might need
• 27:03
  to take care of us, like the York rebellion goes.
• 27:08
  Possibly. So do you think Vorthog then
• 27:14
  ends up over with Tarnog and Basilia?
• 27:19
  I don't think we'll go that far, but I think he'll definitely
• 27:23
  split with Green Arka. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:29
  Oh, I'm trying to. I'm trying to get everyone into
• 27:32
  Basilia, you know? Yeah.
• 27:39
  And here's what you get with them.
• 27:43
  So OK, it doesn't look as an impressive amount of accessories
• 27:48
  as Otto, but these are all new things.
• 27:53
  Yeah, yeah, it's nearly an entirely new figure, isn't it?
• 27:58
  Yeah, so brand new axe, brand new kind of machete blade type
• 28:03
  thing, brand new shield. The shield So so readable.
• 28:09
  And I'm glad they stuck. I love the pop out Shields, but
• 28:12
  I'm glad they stuck to the original.
• 28:16
  Painted on. That's what orcs would do, I
• 28:18
  think you know, and you know it's painted on and then
• 28:23
  weathered up so it looks damaged and used.
• 28:26
  And he's got loads of new armor. So all that evil armor is it's
• 28:33
  basically updated. You got the boots, the shins,
• 28:37
  the lower legs, those lower legs look like they're in two pieces
• 28:40
  now yes. So you got like a calf kind of
• 28:45
  articulate, Oh yeah point and then a knees as well.
• 28:48
  And you got really cool wrist bracers now with the, with the
• 28:53
  prefer on them as well and bit of leather wraps as well as the
• 28:57
  and then you've got the new pauldrons, which are much more.
• 29:01
  They're similar in style in that they're, you know, spiky and
• 29:04
  gnarly, but they they kind of hug closer to the body and kind
• 29:10
  of shape the figure. I think better they.
• 29:13
  They look a little less deliberate as well, don't they?
• 29:15
  Could have been hammered out of a sheet of metal a bit more.
• 29:19
  Yeah, yeah, a little. Bit more maybe our organic or
• 29:22
  yeah, yeah, that's a good word. Yeah, so we had a couple, we had
• 29:28
  a comment from Archer Hawk on our discord.
• 29:32
  He says the version 1 of Urk, who had his favorite shoulder
• 29:37
  armor or at least for a long time.
• 29:40
  And the new versions armor is amazing.
• 29:42
  I love it. Is there any part that you'd
• 29:45
  like this that you'd like to see revisited by Eric kind of in
• 29:52
  line with the shoulder armor here.
• 29:54
  You know that kind of part? Mal, you're.
• 29:57
  I think they've done a lot of bits.
• 29:59
  I, I, you know, I, I wanted more sort of leather goods and
• 30:03
  they've done that and the cloth goods.
• 30:06
  If anything, maybe the, you know, the original, although
• 30:13
  they're doing it, I think, I think the one on Atlas is, is
• 30:15
  different, isn't it? Is the the leather belt with the
• 30:20
  tassels, the straps, the leather straps coming?
• 30:23
  From it. Maybe a bit of a redesign of
• 30:26
  that, but I think they might be doing that with the new Atlas
• 30:29
  anyway. And you, Rich?
• 30:34
  I'm not sure if there is. I don't scrutinize the little
• 30:37
  bits and pieces as much as you guys.
• 30:39
  Yeah, I think the only thing I'd want would be maybe an updated
• 30:42
  version of the temple helmet, but like would split in half or
• 30:44
  something so you could use it for like an undead figure.
• 30:47
  Right. Oh yeah, that would be cool,
• 30:50
  yeah. Have they done the night boots
• 30:51
  again with the new Knights? No, the Knight Feet.
• 30:58
  Yeah, there is. New Knight Feet isn't.
• 31:00
  Yeah, yeah. There is, yeah.
• 31:01
  Yeah, like in the Valley in my. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, you
• 31:06
  know, maybe what we didn't talk about here.
• 31:09
  What I didn't mention here is obviously the new skirt.
• 31:13
  The skirt piece is new as well. Yeah.
• 31:15
  Yeah. And the thing the the belt, the
• 31:20
  colour as well is yeah, yeah. And.
• 31:23
  The loincloth is new as well, isn't it?
• 31:25
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is.
• 31:29
  Basically a new figure. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:31
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:34
  So wow, I'm struggling here with the yeah what to as I like just
• 31:40
  new birds. Just to confirm, yeah, the the
• 31:43
  belt they're they're redoing that belt I was talking about on
• 31:46
  the new Atlas anyway. So yeah, yeah, yeah, so much.
• 31:52
  I could easily see some of these new parts being used on maybe a
• 31:55
  seafaring race that was up north and to retrieve something they
• 32:02
  lost up there. I can see some of these bits
• 32:04
  working well for. That you mean sort of the mixed
• 32:06
  of our mixture of armour and yeah, leather fur?
• 32:10
  Fur and that sort of. I could easily see some of these
• 32:12
  bits being used, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know we're
• 32:17
  getting soft goods now, but the the the cloth sculpted pieces,
• 32:23
  they could do the revamp, but I don't think we're ever going to
• 32:25
  get that because the soft goods. And like soft, good fur as well.
• 32:30
  It's really quite tricky to do to get it to look look good.
• 32:34
  Like really good. Yeah.
• 32:36
  So I quite like that day of the sculpted sort of fur elements.
• 32:38
  Yeah, right. Here's a couple of battle poses,
• 32:46
  Love. Yeah, I love the screaming head.
• 32:49
  The screaming head is amazing. So yeah, you get 3 heads, the
• 32:53
  closed mouth new head, you get the screaming head, and you get
• 32:57
  the gritted teeth. I have to.
• 33:00
  I really like the gritted teeth one as well.
• 33:01
  Very cool as well. Yeah, that seems to be the
• 33:03
  defaulted one. Maybe that's the one that's
• 33:05
  going to come out in the box, but yeah.
• 33:09
  It's funny, isn't it? Because it's only slight tweaks
• 33:11
  to that. Let's call it the relaxed face.
• 33:15
  You know, there's kind of just the update of the old one that's
• 33:18
  that's on the the vampire or in in.
• 33:23
  But the tweaks do make you look so much better.
• 33:27
  Oh, we do. And I.
• 33:27
  Didn't you know? I mean, New York's will never be
• 33:30
  my favourites, but I mean, this is, yeah.
• 33:33
  I love that screaming head. That's really, really cool.
• 33:37
  Yeah, really cool. Yeah, and that and that sword is
• 33:40
  just. Yeah.
• 33:42
  I'm such a badass weapon. Yeah, yeah, the the big stand
• 33:49
  out thing here, when you look at the original result to the new
• 33:53
  one is the sword. Yeah, the sword looks, it looks
• 33:59
  very nightly, like he nicked it off a night.
• 34:03
  And the new one looks appropriate for his character.
• 34:05
  I'd say yeah. Yes.
• 34:09
  And also the torso I, I assume that's the vortex torso under
• 34:12
  all those belts Has to be, yeah. I feel it feels like they said
• 34:18
  that was new as well. That yeah, they said it had all
• 34:21
  the range of motion of the new stuff, so we can't be the boy.
• 34:23
  OK, Right. Well, incredible.
• 34:28
  I mean, they're really on for it with this.
• 34:29
  Yeah, so I can't wait to get him.
• 34:31
  I think I'm more excited about him than Auto.
• 34:34
  I think I am too sorry and. I.
• 34:40
  Mean it's it's on the scale of like, you know, awesome to
• 34:43
  awesome. So you know, yeah, yeah, it's
• 34:45
  not not too bad. Yeah, but yeah, very, very, very
• 34:52
  cool and not as rusty up as the original one.
• 34:56
  Are we all right with that? I find that I think.
• 35:00
  I think the rust on the original 1 was just a way to make what
• 35:03
  was a plain night oh much different.
• 35:06
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 35:08
  Yeah, I think place that with just more what feels more like
• 35:13
  hammered armor, isn't it? And.
• 35:15
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it is still weathered, you
• 35:19
  know, it still looks, you know, like as well.
• 35:22
  And he's the boss. He can't be wearing rusty armor.
• 35:24
  He's not a gobble. Good snakes.
• 35:30
  Very true. And again, Trevor, that's such a
• 35:35
  good picture. Such a good picture.
• 35:37
  It's amazing. A bunch of orcs running behind
• 35:40
  them is used. Yeah, he's used.
• 35:46
  There is a painted orchid sculpt in the Ether Blade Orcs packs,
• 35:52
  so that might be that one, yeah. And then that chip ball and
• 35:56
  chain was from the Ether blade orcs originally as well.
• 35:59
  Yeah, yeah. So yeah, if you like you're
• 36:04
  green guys, then this is this is going to be 1 Archer as another
• 36:09
  question as well. But do you think there's ever be
• 36:12
  a wave or even half a wave with with green skin orcs in it?
• 36:19
  He feels like we need more green orcs.
• 36:22
  I think we're going to get more of the mixed waves from now on.
• 36:26
  Oh yeah, factions. Yeah, I think they're, they're
• 36:30
  keen on the new stuff now, aren't they?
• 36:31
  So. This.
• 36:34
  This thing, I mean the legacies is a good way to introduce the
• 36:36
  old races or the colour of the races sort of thing while
• 36:41
  keeping the line moving towards the newer stuff.
• 36:43
  I don't think we could get another green skin org, but I
• 36:46
  don't think it'll be a lot of them in more wave or you know,
• 36:50
  or. A lot.
• 36:51
  Maybe one with a bunch of different head scopes and a few
• 36:55
  different ease generational options that that can you can
• 36:59
  build your your army. Yeah, I haven't got here is a
• 37:05
  new helmeted orchid sculpt. So that might be Direct Line.
• 37:11
  You know, no, Arzak didn't have a helmeted head.
• 37:15
  So, you know, we didn't necessarily need to get one, but
• 37:20
  you know. What would have gone really good
• 37:22
  with this new Ozog, but you can't get many more, is the the
• 37:26
  armored orchids that planetary dog toys had.
• 37:28
  Oh yeah. Where you literally just had the
• 37:30
  eyes. And then there's just huge and
• 37:33
  they're often scuffed up and that sort of thing.
• 37:35
  They would have gone amazing. That's matched really well,
• 37:38
  really well, Yep. So as we hinted at before,
• 37:44
  Monday 15th of September, 11 AM EDT, which is I think EST as
• 37:50
  well. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:53
  Works out like time as opposed to Eastern Standard Time.
• 37:57
  OK. And Geek works out at 3:00 for
• 38:01
  you guys, 4:00 for me, yeah. No, no, I think.
• 38:07
  It's yeah. 444, Sorry. Yeah, yeah, sorry.
• 38:10
  You're right. And.
• 38:13
  I did a check on Google. And then available, let's see
• 38:18
  how set the alarm now available is in stock at that time and
• 38:22
  it's $110 set. So these are working at 55 a
• 38:26
  figure. I think the value is there.
• 38:28
  Yeah, I think the extra 5 from the the regular retail price is
• 38:33
  to do with the availability and maybe the the slight deluxe
• 38:39
  nature of these. The I mean it's.
• 38:43
  Been they're not being sold with the, you know, pre-order price
• 38:47
  because they're in stock. So, yeah, yeah.
• 38:51
  Also, I mean, there's three heads, isn't there?
• 38:53
  You know, that's yeah, you can just probably put the price up a
• 38:55
  little bit when you've got, you know, 3 brand new head sculpts
• 38:58
  per figure. Yeah, limited to two sets per
• 39:02
  person for the 1st 24 hours and if they last after that,
• 39:07
  there'll be limits lifted. Are you guys going to go for the
• 39:11
  two, The one? Come on, Rich.
• 39:15
  I'm going to go for one to get sent here and then I'm going to
• 39:18
  tap up our good friend Brett to see if I can get one sent to
• 39:21
  him. And then I can just unbox those
• 39:23
  allegiance con and bring them back loose.
• 39:26
  Nice. Well.
• 39:29
  I'll definitely get one. I'll say how I feel at the time.
• 39:34
  I might be able to wait for the extras and just do the pre-order
• 39:38
  when that happens. Or I kind of imagine they might
• 39:42
  even have some of these at legions con as well.
• 39:44
  So. They said they won't.
• 39:47
  Jeremy said they wouldn't, yeah. I write as well, then I've put
• 39:50
  because I only really need one of each.
• 39:54
  I don't necessarily because of the armour and what the armour
• 39:56
  is going to do, I don't necessarily feel like I need
• 39:59
  multiples. You know these I.
• 40:01
  Think though, to build an evil dude.
• 40:05
  I don't know, I would like a second version of the Shield and
• 40:08
  I would like a second Otho head, but the rest of it I'm like,
• 40:12
  yeah, that's very cool, but do I need it, you know?
• 40:16
  I think that Ozark, for me, that Ozark building particularly, you
• 40:18
  can just strip bits out of it. You can buy Warner's Ock and
• 40:22
  then make three other figures much, much better just by
• 40:26
  swapping in different bits of the hour.
• 40:27
  Yeah. That's true, that's true.
• 40:29
  These will also after all these sales go to retailers.
• 40:33
  So then also worth keeping in mind if you can wait.
• 40:38
  And so then Friday the 19th of September, same time of the day,
• 40:43
  11 AM, three or 4:00 PM for you, 5 for me and 55 each no purchase
• 40:51
  limits, pre-order. And that's going to go until the
• 40:55
  5th of October. So which also says to me that
• 41:00
  there's probably nothing else dropping between now and
• 41:03
  allegiance gone apart from maybe if I don't think we'll see any
• 41:08
  wave. So maybe you're obscurer, but
• 41:11
  even then I don't think so. Even then, it'd be tight to get
• 41:14
  out of Halloween, wouldn't it, if they tried to squeak another
• 41:16
  figure? Yeah.
• 41:19
  But no, I think, I think it looks like we're not going to
• 41:21
  get a cosmic wave this year, doesn't it?
• 41:22
  Yeah, does look like that, yeah. I think they want to get those
• 41:26
  too. Yeah, they want to get the.
• 41:28
  Delivery. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't be
• 41:31
  surprised early in the new year, like February time to see a
• 41:34
  cosmic wave all of a sudden go up.
• 41:35
  Yeah. Or who knows, they might have a
• 41:39
  little cosmic element delusions gone somehow.
• 41:41
  We never know. Yeah, maybe A1 off item, maybe a
• 41:45
  slightly bigger item or something like that, you know?
• 41:48
  Well, when Jeremy said about setting sail, what he actually
• 41:51
  meant was in a spaceship. And they're going to really
• 41:55
  swerve everyone. And it's and, and that ship that
• 42:00
  we we've seen in the horrors of Einstein Miles actually a rocket
• 42:03
  that has crashed and he's sailing.
• 42:05
  Bringing the two, we're bringing the two rounds together.
• 42:08
  I reckon just to really wind everyone.
• 42:10
  If if you give a space pirates mile, people will lose their
• 42:13
  minds. That'd be amazing.
• 42:18
  Oh my goodness. Yeah.
• 42:21
  So other than that, yeah, maybe in October there'll be something
• 42:26
  like the sideshow reveal or something like that.
• 42:28
  Maybe they're even that free for those guys to.
• 42:30
  See what they're going to do. Yeah, yeah.
• 42:33
  It's the only other thing left. Isn't it sideshow stuff now?
• 42:35
  They've revealed that legions gone.
• 42:37
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe that's what's going to
• 42:42
  take up some of October and. We are as rich.
• 42:46
  As Rich goes, oh, something I don't understand.
• 42:49
  Yeah, thank God. We are at some point that's
• 42:55
  meant to be the the drop of the glios version of the the
• 43:05
  slightly in between Glios version and the mythic version
• 43:11
  of, what's his name, Fanos. No, Yeah, yeah.
• 43:17
  Isn't this amazing? But I don't think that's coming
• 43:20
  from the horseman though, is it? No, no from.
• 43:24
  Space. Yeah, maybe.
• 43:26
  And again, sometime we want so so.
• 43:30
  Much. I'm not a biased person, I
• 43:32
  would. I thought it looked really cool
• 43:33
  in that slightly bigger scale. Yeah, true, true.
• 43:38
  And So what do we think then in terms of the future of this
• 43:43
  line? Any any figures you want to
• 43:46
  shout out? I sorry, I was going to say the
• 43:51
  thing I thought most interesting was because we all presumed that
• 43:55
  as I loner and ethos would be in this line, but Jeremy and Eric
• 43:59
  were very made a very pointed remark that we'll get version
• 44:02
  twos but it might not be in legacies.
• 44:05
  See it's funny isn't it because I actually wasn't sure they
• 44:08
  would be in legacies the way it was announced.
• 44:09
  Slash legions can. I kind of thought they would be
• 44:12
  just part of the the general line.
• 44:17
  It looks like they could well be.
• 44:20
  The other fun thing that Eric kind of slipped in there was
• 44:25
  that Legacies might not just be, you know, initially it was sort
• 44:30
  of set out as it would be the main character, or at least All
• 44:33
  Stars, a follow on from that where it's just the main
• 44:35
  characters and that and he actually said that it might not
• 44:40
  be, it might be another. He might go and explore a
• 44:42
  redesign of another character that he just sees.
• 44:46
  Seems to be quite popular with the community, which opens up a
• 44:50
  world of. What do you think that could be?
• 44:53
  Oh cool, well like the two I sort of thought I would like if
• 44:58
  that's the case, Ragnar Storm Forger, which I've almost.
• 45:05
  He's not popular with the community.
• 45:07
  Popular. Popular with the community thing
• 45:08
  there Mal. It's just like.
• 45:11
  Maybe the character is maybe the the story with Taylor and all
• 45:14
  that that is. I don't know, but I think at
• 45:17
  some point he he wants to. I'm sure Eric wants to redesign
• 45:21
  because he doesn't like it. He's got to want to make her
• 45:24
  better surely And those colours are so nice on her.
• 45:28
  And then the other one I'd like, which I'm not sure we ever will
• 45:30
  get, but it would be a good way of making it available to a
• 45:34
  more, a wider audience. You know, Newer collectors is a
• 45:38
  complete redesign of Joran Dream Shaper so.
• 45:42
  I think that one's far more likely.
• 45:44
  Yeah. With a love of the dwarfs.
• 45:46
  I know Ragnar's a dwarf, but. She's, well, she's the ugly step
• 45:51
  sister of the dwarf. Nobody talks about it.
• 45:55
  She's kept in a basement. So it has.
• 45:58
  But yeah, those new dwarf parts and the soft goods, then you're
• 46:02
  talking, you know, Yeah, and. Then Brett can send him into an
• 46:07
  undead Jordan. So.
• 46:10
  Yeah, if he comes with a faceplate, helmet or just stick
• 46:15
  a skull. Yeah.
• 46:16
  Dick, Sally. Head on him and boom, there you
• 46:19
  go. Yeah.
• 46:21
  Yeah, I'm wondering if if Erica's talking about some of
• 46:23
  the skeletons, there may be the more generic skeletons, but
• 46:27
  they're they're more new though, really.
• 46:30
  Yeah, I mean, Malleus could do with the redo.
• 46:32
  Yeah, Malleus, it has to be a. It's such a plain build, which
• 46:37
  at the time was fine, but now with the rest of the family.
• 46:40
  Considering he's one of the main the main heads of that faction
• 46:44
  as well, yeah. Yeah, I also brought up a couple
• 46:51
  here that I managed to grab pictures of.
• 46:53
  So Thord iron jaw, he has to be a no brainer for a release of
• 46:57
  some sort. Yeah.
• 46:58
  Yeah, umm, he's one of the main dwarfs he's eh, related to Is it
• 47:07
  Brandon or both are? Both are.
• 47:11
  Both think. Yeah.
• 47:13
  Yes, he's both. Are Torben's related to?
• 47:15
  Yeah, and eh, Orange steel Hyde. It'd be just cool to get like a
• 47:21
  character head for all as much as anything.
• 47:23
  It would and Eric said, didn't he, that he was like really
• 47:26
  under ordered to be like, oh so. Yeah, was it Maybe, maybe, you
• 47:31
  know, he's swinging through trees and stuff.
• 47:34
  Maybe give him the leather boots that are going now with the new
• 47:37
  person stuff. It's a possibility to actually
• 47:41
  swim, swing through the trees while still being able to give
• 47:44
  them this amazing green colour. Oh, it needs a long, luxurious
• 47:47
  hair like like Tarzan. Then there's me swinging.
• 47:50
  Bare chested and long look. Or just a reuse of the auto
• 47:55
  dreads, you know, plugging into a hand he.
• 47:58
  He would actually be quite good. They could do a dwarf versions
• 48:02
  of those Again, the boot, the piece that comes with the
• 48:09
  gladiators of the metal legs and the leather boots.
• 48:12
  It might work quite well for him versions.
• 48:17
  Yeah, Galleron, I mean, he needs a, he needs a head sculpt,
• 48:26
  basically. Yeah, a character head sculpt.
• 48:29
  And you should go to see. Yeah, but you could go to town
• 48:32
  on them with the evil, you know, kind of like a kind of an
• 48:36
  evenly, even though he's in Ethron, you know.
• 48:40
  I think the fact that we've got Sir Andrew is such a similar
• 48:42
  color, I think might scupper. That I think or maybe it might
• 48:47
  entice them, you know, because maybe like, you know, got
• 48:52
  Andrew, no any Galleron because look, he's he would fit that to
• 48:56
  that gig, you know. Yeah, he would fit what Eric
• 48:58
  said. Wouldn't he have something that
• 49:01
  the the communities seem to be quite wanting that isn't
• 49:08
  necessarily a main character? I do.
• 49:10
  I do know how to speak English, really, I promise.
• 49:14
  He's from everybody, don't worry about.
• 49:16
  The word, did you? Not even Sir Godfrey then?
• 49:19
  No, No. Everyone hates Godfrey.
• 49:23
  Yeah, but they hate him because he was just a Templar legion
• 49:25
  builder with. Even when they dropped him as
• 49:27
  that, you know, the the blind boxing, he still wasn't very
• 49:30
  popular. It's like he's.
• 49:32
  Just the Templar, isn't he? Well I got one at legions con
• 49:37
  and I obviously unboxed him to bring him home and now he's on
• 49:40
  my temp. I don't know which one he is.
• 49:48
  I made one out of him and the night builder, sorry, out of a
• 49:53
  Templar and the night builder and he's like, yeah, looks like
• 49:55
  so God free, right? Some of the flock here on us,
• 50:04
  yeah, definitely. Yes, only.
• 50:07
  If only if you're turning more into a tree man type thing.
• 50:12
  Yeah. So get rid of those hooves.
• 50:13
  Let's have some sort of branch feet.
• 50:15
  And Oh no, I was like hooves. Well looking with the.
• 50:18
  Hoovers, but with the boom again.
• 50:22
  I'm looking. I know what he's saying, but
• 50:24
  yeah. But yeah, give him more organic
• 50:26
  stuff, Flock a little bit. You know those green bits on the
• 50:29
  ears? They were flocked, Yeah.
• 50:32
  I'd be down with that. You know that kind of stuff.
• 50:35
  Yeah, yeah, couple of bits of Moss up on the the antlers or
• 50:38
  whatever they are up there. Yeah, and, and just a few more
• 50:42
  trees. It's three hands, you know, or.
• 50:46
  Was that three hands or? That could be there's.
• 50:51
  An accent on. As long as he doesn't have three
• 50:54
  legs and there's no Damon Wangs here because he's in the wrong
• 51:01
  faction for that. Zylona is an obvious one.
• 51:06
  We talked about her. We get no two.
• 51:09
  We were getting nerves and clients.
• 51:11
  Battle, OH. Yes, maybe that's the delay with
• 51:14
  her. Maybe that's where they couldn't
• 51:15
  drop her. They're still, they're still
• 51:19
  tearing up the battle answers. Yeah.
• 51:21
  That's. I'm still it'll be you'll.
• 51:23
  You'll get 2 pairs that you can plug in, and as you say, the one
• 51:26
  will be sort of ready for war. Ready for war?
• 51:30
  Yeah, there's a benevolent as I learn, and there's oh, we're in
• 51:33
  the shit now. Look at it.
• 51:33
  She's angry with eye loner. I think, I still think that she
• 51:39
  could come as a, as a kind of a Centaur type, maybe even a
• 51:43
  small, maybe not even on the, the centre build we have now.
• 51:47
  Maybe they're going to do with like a deer type animal, smaller
• 51:50
  1 and essentially could you and they can easily write a cool bio
• 51:57
  to to explain all that. Yeah, wrong scale I suppose, but
• 52:01
  you could see it doing like the Jersey Devil type legs maybe.
• 52:08
  Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, that.
• 52:11
  Would be good. Yeah, and then the Silverhorn
• 52:16
  Century, I know we had it in the Legion builder wave last year.
• 52:22
  The reinforcements would. Yeah, 2, wasn't it?
• 52:25
  Yeah. Of course he thinks it's just a
• 52:28
  basic truth, and I think he's really good as he is.
• 52:31
  But if you're going to update faunas, yeah, put him, give him
• 52:36
  more of the tree type stuff. A way to the way to sell that
• 52:41
  would be to take a leaf out of some of the superhero figures
• 52:44
  books and just do 2 unhelmeted heads.
• 52:47
  Like, well, here's one figure and you have to buy two of them
• 52:49
  now because there's two different heads.
• 52:51
  You know, give. Them one can be a satyr and one
• 52:53
  could be a tree man or something and then it's like yeah, yeah.
• 52:57
  And then give pairs of hands that that make sense with that
• 53:02
  or something like that. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:04
  And maybe some soft goods. Then just to differentiate them,
• 53:09
  give them a different torso flocking, you know?
• 53:15
  Obsessed man. Yeah, I know it's not going to
• 53:18
  happen, but I can mention it. It's the same.
• 53:21
  Thing differently we could do differently with those.
• 53:23
  Well, they could have flocked him.
• 53:26
  No, they could have given him some textured rush Rust.
• 53:28
  Yeah, right. Balaam flocked head.
• 53:35
  I agree with that flocking. Suggestion.
• 53:37
  It would be quite cool, wouldn't it?
• 53:39
  I mean real cat hair. You know, I'm willing to driven
• 53:42
  a bit off some of my I have 4 cats so I can send over probably
• 53:46
  like a small plastic bag of cat hair.
• 53:49
  You know when it goes from winter to summer, you know, do
• 53:53
  it around that time. I'll have a lot of hair to send
• 53:55
  over. Can you imagine the outcry?
• 53:59
  Yeah, there's real cat hair on the.
• 54:01
  Yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's there's ethics involved here and
• 54:05
  you know, people that say there's vegans that would torch
• 54:10
  the place and. I do feel like we will get
• 54:12
  Balaam at some point, yeah. Whether that'll be the first one
• 54:16
  with a new new cat head we must see.
• 54:20
  But yeah, I can see him getting an update.
• 54:23
  Imagine them just being done in the auto style and then you go
• 54:27
  another step further and imagine them with monkey King bear arms
• 54:31
  types type of thing. Or you know, I'm not saying they
• 54:34
  need to use the Monkey king parts, but like sculpted firms,
• 54:40
  you know, you got the Windaji arts there.
• 54:42
  I don't know. Would any of them work?
• 54:45
  But they should. His helmet actually have a human
• 54:47
  face on it, so it's like the opposite of with a lion head.
• 54:52
  That was an amazing idea. I'm sillier the snake.
• 54:56
  And then you pull the snake up and it's like, it's like, what,
• 54:59
  what, what, what? That would look quite cool.
• 55:04
  Either way, he's one of the coolest characters in the line.
• 55:07
  He's one of the coolest figures still in the line even though
• 55:10
  he's he's a basic build. He would have to come with a
• 55:13
  little cadre of little animals that he's drawing the energy
• 55:15
  from. Yeah, that would be cool.
• 55:17
  They. They don't have to be like, you
• 55:18
  know, articulated or anything just now.
• 55:20
  Little things like the rats. And they?
• 55:25
  I mean, if they do any of this and if they flock any part of
• 55:28
  them, I'll order 6 instantly. So there you go.
• 55:31
  You know, I don't care what my financial situation is at that
• 55:33
  time. Order 6 they'll.
• 55:36
  Come with literally a little flocked animal just.
• 55:42
  Order that sucker don't let his head sculpt right he.
• 55:45
  Flocked the tip of his tail. There you go.
• 55:49
  That is that tail like Calavius. Yeah.
• 55:56
  I mean, we got the gladiator everything now going on.
• 55:59
  So let's let's kind of jazz Calavius up and make him more of
• 56:04
  a character because he's got 2 helmets.
• 56:07
  Give him a head you just feel. Like another one who could do
• 56:10
  the character. Would you like the mystery?
• 56:12
  I like the mystery, I like this build, so I'd quite happily
• 56:14
  haven't stay. He's deadly.
• 56:15
  He's a deadly figure. He's really good.
• 56:17
  Yeah, yeah, I have to admit I have a bunch of him.
• 56:20
  I have he's one of the figures of the most of maybe you have 4
• 56:23
  of him. Oh really?
• 56:24
  That's in various different. Rookie.
• 56:27
  OK, Yeah, well, I collect differently to you, you know.
• 56:32
  I know you collect definitely I don't I still.
• 56:34
  Have a Ravenna. I have never owned.
• 56:40
  Her, but then you can't even you can't even take not, I hope not
• 56:44
  liking her. She's a great figure, super
• 56:47
  figure. And so yeah, Calabius, as I say,
• 56:52
  you're probably just talking about a few things here, you
• 56:55
  know, but you could probably upgrade him with your parts from
• 56:58
  the gladiator Armory and probably be fine.
• 57:02
  Yeah. And create your own even from
• 57:04
  those parts. So the only thing is an unhelmed
• 57:08
  head sculpted like a screaming head sculpt for gladiator would
• 57:12
  be cool. They're not going to do it.
• 57:15
  But a battle damaged head would be cool, like apart from a
• 57:19
  helmet. But they're not doing a battle
• 57:20
  damaged like, you know, human head sculpt.
• 57:25
  What if he's like a tree man or something rich underneath the
• 57:29
  door? I would be surprised looking at
• 57:31
  the rest of me, he said. That's a tree man, but I'd buy
• 57:34
  it. You know, or wolf head.
• 57:35
  He's like the Jersey Devil underneath that.
• 57:39
  That would be quite cool. I do actually have a treatment
• 57:42
  gladiator already so. You're already ahead of the game
• 57:46
  there. Do you know the Crusher never
• 57:48
  built? That's all I can say for her.
• 57:51
  That would be cool, yeah. That would make more sense for
• 57:53
  her being a crusher than you know.
• 57:56
  And a more sensible web sheet, because that one's way too big
• 57:58
  for. Her.
• 58:01
  You're in the Steve Bushati camp here?
• 58:03
  Yeah, no, you really want. To no one, in no way, shape or
• 58:08
  form don't want to be associated with Steve Bosciotti on his
• 58:11
  ideas No, not at. All ideas, Yeah.
• 58:18
  You know who you're cheering for?
• 58:19
  It. Do you know as Isaac?
• 58:21
  Do you know he's a cool figure as it is?
• 58:23
  But yes, I don't think a straight re release of her
• 58:27
  would, you know, people would buy that much of few like people
• 58:34
  who want to fill a hole in their collection.
• 58:35
  But I think if they know they did a Neve version of her, you
• 58:39
  know, make her bigger, bigger it's.
• 58:41
  A good idea, I think Freya as well would be would good to give
• 58:47
  her that bigger build from the Neve build.
• 58:51
  Or just soft goods her up more with the newer soft goods.
• 58:55
  Possibly. Yeah, I mean Freya as well,
• 58:57
  because you can regenerate yourself.
• 58:58
  You could have like a really, you know, dead head, couldn't
• 59:01
  you? Really.
• 59:02
  Oh yeah, More than wounded Freya.
• 59:05
  And then, oh, she's back to life.
• 59:06
  Freya. Oh, Freya could also translucent
• 59:10
  stuff. Few more here than Skelly's and
• 59:18
  Scaphoid. He's pretty.
• 59:20
  He's a pretty cool. Yeah, I guess.
• 59:23
  Isn't it a big end? But quite popular and the only
• 59:28
  one in that colour scheme. So and he's been all started
• 59:34
  already. But you know, he could do
• 59:36
  another poison skeleton with the newer parts.
• 59:39
  You know, even just a fully one that has soft goods and a fully
• 59:45
  skeleton body underneath. You know, like a Maxillus type
• 59:49
  version of sky scaphoid. Here's 1.
• 59:53
  I don't think you'll argue with Morglet.
• 59:56
  I nearly said morgolith in my couple.
• 59:58
  When you'd said about thinking about which ones we'd like.
• 1:00:01
  I nearly said Morgolith. Again, I like her as she is.
• 1:00:06
  Even a wash on the helmet would improve her.
• 1:00:08
  Yeah, they could make us so much better now.
• 1:00:11
  Yeah, yeah, I think so. And better ankles Rich.
• 1:00:17
  Yes, I mean that would never be a bad thing.
• 1:00:18
  Has to be said, and I just noticed looking at a picture, I
• 1:00:21
  do quite like the jaunty pose she's got in that picture.
• 1:00:24
  Just chilling on a star face. Yeah, watching through my dead.
• 1:00:28
  Scorchers says she's that's because she's a prototype and
• 1:00:31
  she's glued. Yeah, that's it.
• 1:00:36
  That's that big orcs or she has. She doesn't need that.
• 1:00:40
  You know. Keep a different weapon, like a
• 1:00:46
  something like Maxillus has for a weapon, you know, something
• 1:00:49
  like that. Already one of those curved
• 1:00:51
  swords? That would be good and.
• 1:00:57
  Pixus. I'd like a pixus.
• 1:01:00
  I wouldn't mind the the original original yeah, but I wouldn't
• 1:01:04
  mind to re redo either. You could just put new parts in
• 1:01:08
  there. Would they do that though is
• 1:01:10
  it's a Pixel Dam tribute? He didn't really have to do that
• 1:01:13
  anymore. It's not really.
• 1:01:17
  It's not I, I don't class Pyxis as a tribute like, you know, Cow
• 1:01:21
  Ross or you know, Celtos. I don't class it as that.
• 1:01:27
  Or even the few you know the Legions Consul like the Furious
• 1:01:30
  4. He is the one they included in
• 1:01:34
  the. Oh, the legends.
• 1:01:37
  Yeah. Oh yeah, he was actually well.
• 1:01:40
  That's a good point. Alumni, alumni, alumni.
• 1:01:43
  OK, that's much my idea then. That's a terrible idea.
• 1:01:46
  Really worked fine. Would you take it in an updated
• 1:01:49
  pixels rich? Oh yeah, in heartbeat.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah, yeah, great. I've sold them twice so I would
• 1:01:53
  definitely take an updated one. I sold them twice, so I take
• 1:01:57
  them until the team appreciates them, price appropriately and
• 1:02:00
  then I get rid of them again. No, no, not at all.
• 1:02:03
  I just, you know, there's certain times where you look at
• 1:02:06
  a figure and you go, you are brilliant.
• 1:02:09
  I can. Tell you my five other ones,
• 1:02:11
  you're gone. Do you enjoy collecting leaders
• 1:02:14
  now when that doesn't happen as often?
• 1:02:17
  Is it it's more stable for your collection?
• 1:02:19
  It's better, yeah, for the collection, it's been a long
• 1:02:21
  while since I've bought some, but Darren went yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Do you know what? You're out of it.
• 1:02:26
  And finally we have either on obvious one.
• 1:02:30
  Yeah. He's one of the ones I'm most
• 1:02:33
  excited about this game, I guess, yeah.
• 1:02:36
  He's going to be like Herzog, fully new, sculpted.
• 1:02:39
  So yeah. Yeah, maybe.
• 1:02:43
  Maybe he's turned bad and is the leader of the pirate gang that
• 1:02:45
  were kidnapped the Garmin. I could see him coming in a wave
• 1:02:51
  definitely, as opposed to a legacies and build a bit of
• 1:02:55
  story about around him, you know?
• 1:02:58
  Then you could have the likes of a Galleron or or similar.
• 1:03:02
  You know couple of ether on characters.
• 1:03:06
  Do you think that the birds will be incorporated as part of the
• 1:03:12
  3.0 build potentially? I don't mind as long as they're
• 1:03:19
  incorporated in the stand up on the shelf.
• 1:03:21
  Yes. That would be the key thing for
• 1:03:23
  me as well. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:25
  Or numbers with the stand. Maybe that's the way to solve
• 1:03:30
  it. Comes with the stand, yeah.
• 1:03:33
  But if the Jersey Devil, I don't need for the birds, yeah.
• 1:03:37
  I'm sure the Jersey Devil stands perfectly on his own, but we
• 1:03:41
  have a nice stand and I just, I understand otherwise, I think.
• 1:03:43
  That's one of the main reason I sold most of my birds is because
• 1:03:46
  I had virtually everyone. I sold all, you know, all about
• 1:03:49
  four or five. It's going to just get me
• 1:03:51
  falling over, no? Because.
• 1:03:53
  No, seriously, the prices that I got from at that time, right, it
• 1:03:56
  was one dead spot in the bird market.
• 1:04:02
  We've gone from talking about action figures to the bird
• 1:04:05
  market. Yeah.
• 1:04:07
  Are you talking about the board market now?
• 1:04:13
  I'm going out tonight. We bored a few points and right.
• 1:04:19
  So that's, I guess that's all your speculation about legacies
• 1:04:24
  for now. How excited is everyone for
• 1:04:26
  allegiance? Can, I mean, I know we're eight
• 1:04:27
  weeks off and have we had any? I'm borderline giddy now, I'll
• 1:04:33
  be honest. Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  This is most exciting. Too soon, though.
• 1:04:36
  Maybe. I mean, I I won't reveal the
• 1:04:39
  little arty project thing I've got going on, but I told you
• 1:04:41
  guys and it's like, it's ridiculous to come up with that
• 1:04:43
  idea, but I'm so giddy. It's like, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:45
  And I spent hours on it already and it's.
• 1:04:50
  Brilliant. And you, Mel?
• 1:04:52
  Yeah, yeah. I can't wait now.
• 1:04:54
  It can't come soon enough. It's really looking forward to
• 1:04:59
  it, I think that. We're going under, we're
• 1:05:03
  arriving on the Wednesday. Is that right?
• 1:05:06
  Yes. Oh, Mal's there, probably I'm
• 1:05:08
  getting there. On the Sunday?
• 1:05:10
  Oh no. On the Sunday which haven't.
• 1:05:12
  Quite. Have you got any chilly?
• 1:05:13
  But yeah, have you got any plans for the first couple of days
• 1:05:17
  then? Nothing.
• 1:05:19
  Nothing solid. But I'm I I discovered last
• 1:05:23
  year, thanks to Chris, that Sleepy Hollow was in New York,
• 1:05:28
  NY. So I'm going to see if I can get
• 1:05:32
  there. And I was pretty excited that
• 1:05:37
  we're talking about possibly on the Thursday doing a few tourist
• 1:05:41
  things. Doing a bit of a tour of New
• 1:05:42
  York, Yeah, that'd be good. I'm down for that now.
• 1:05:45
  You know, at this point I've done all the other though I've
• 1:05:47
  done. Intern was brilliant.
• 1:05:50
  It was great to be invited. I'm happy to leave it to other
• 1:05:53
  people and. Although if anyone did be a
• 1:05:55
  tourist. No, I'm, I'm staying strong now,
• 1:06:02
  but I'm also not going to go on my own.
• 1:06:06
  But no, I'd definitely, yeah, New York would be good.
• 1:06:08
  That extra, that extra spare day.
• 1:06:10
  I'm already searching out where the cheesecake factories are.
• 1:06:14
  I I can't keep going to America and not going to a Cheesecake
• 1:06:17
  Factory. You want to destroy your.
• 1:06:19
  You want to destroy your insides early in the week or what?
• 1:06:22
  I don't care, it'd be worth it. If I'm in bed, where's Rich?
• 1:06:33
  I think he's in the bathroom, John.
• 1:06:37
  Do the windows open now? Can you remember?
• 1:06:41
  He's going to throw me out. What?
• 1:06:44
  Floor. What floor do the do the windows
• 1:06:46
  open? We need to request first floor
• 1:06:48
  please we may need to open the window for interesting.
• 1:06:53
  Yeah, I'm very, very efficient air con.
• 1:06:56
  Yeah, yeah, no, I've been yeah, doing all sorts of like pre
• 1:06:59
  allegiance con stuff now. So I've got a little folder on
• 1:07:01
  my phone of the potential heads on Mark Calloway to paint and I
• 1:07:05
  could pick him up for him. My legions condom.
• 1:07:06
  Because he's done. Oh yeah.
• 1:07:09
  So umm, one of which maybe even 2 will be in the convocation
• 1:07:13
  job. Oh exciting.
• 1:07:17
  Yeah, I have some heads on my desk for you.
• 1:07:19
  I assume you want to pick them up at Legions con or?
• 1:07:22
  I think I'll be easiest way. Yeah, yeah, If I'm not finished
• 1:07:25
  them all, I'll have to ships. I'll see.
• 1:07:30
  I should be, but, you know, I mean, I thought I'd get more
• 1:07:32
  done this week, but they're they're only going back to
• 1:07:34
  school next week, kids, so it's not a problem.
• 1:07:36
  Don't worry about it. No, I know.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah. No, but yeah, I thought they
• 1:07:41
  were going to, you know, I thought I'd have less to do this
• 1:07:43
  week, but yeah, back to school next week.
• 1:07:46
  It's a lot of stuff going on. It's all this stuff.
• 1:07:49
  We thought we'd get this done in the summer.
• 1:07:50
  Let's let's now clear out these two.
• 1:07:52
  Oh, how the? Kids aren't about.
• 1:07:56
  Thank God I'm doing podcasts tonight and I have to edit it
• 1:08:02
  afterwards so you know I'm done, you know I'm out.
• 1:08:06
  Bet you relieved when they said Eric won't be on Jeremy Show
• 1:08:09
  next Wednesday like you. Oh yeah, yeah, I did, I did, I
• 1:08:12
  did. I did reflect on that.
• 1:08:14
  But then I was like, okay, we know we need, we need to
• 1:08:16
  actually think about what to talk about, but we have a few
• 1:08:19
  ideas for Allegiance could enroll too.
• 1:08:21
  So we do. And there's there are, you know,
• 1:08:25
  many more because I went crazy. The exclusive head sculpts to.
• 1:08:28
  Reveal, we need to talk about them.
• 1:08:30
  Yeah, yeah. I saw Trevor Williams did a
• 1:08:33
  shout out for asking for any vendors to send him.
• 1:08:40
  They're exclusive so he can promote them on their show.
• 1:08:43
  So we should probably reveal them on our show and then send
• 1:08:46
  them on as ever. Yeah.
• 1:08:47
  Yeah, get a AA double whammy just to bore.
• 1:08:50
  Really bore the shout out of people.
• 1:08:53
  Well, I've gone down such the loser getting excited about
• 1:08:56
  Legions con route that I mean I got a spreadsheet listing where
• 1:08:59
  we should advertise our various things should we do on
• 1:09:01
  Instagram, Facebook, the cabal, what do you know all this.
• 1:09:04
  It's just using excuse for the spread basically.
• 1:09:08
  Just share it to share it with me so I can actually do that
• 1:09:10
  then because that OK the thinking out of it.
• 1:09:12
  Well, no, wait till the time though.
• 1:09:14
  Don't tell it to me now. Yeah, I know there's a time
• 1:09:16
  frame involved for all of them as well.
• 1:09:18
  Oh my. Because I'm.
• 1:09:20
  That much of A Yeah, basically tomorrow I'm working at home.
• 1:09:23
  Thankfully, as soon as I finish work I need to run upstairs, put
• 1:09:31
  a load of builds together for the exclusives and take a load
• 1:09:33
  of photographs so I can start posting them and the stories
• 1:09:35
  and. That Oh my goodness.
• 1:09:36
  Over the weekend, so that'd be fun.
• 1:09:38
  My day tomorrow is doing a 12 mile charity walk.
• 1:09:44
  Oh. Yeah.
• 1:09:46
  Glad you said walk there because it was run.
• 1:09:48
  I was going to be working. Yeah, a few 100 yards these
• 1:09:52
  days. No, it's just got malice still
• 1:09:55
  infinitely. I did my calf remember that 12
• 1:09:58
  mile thing didn't. That could happen walking
• 1:10:01
  though, let's be honest. No, it's weird work they did.
• 1:10:05
  Oh cool Irish charity things. I don't normally do them.
• 1:10:07
  I thought I'd do it this time. So.
• 1:10:09
  Cool. So you get to do it on the
• 1:10:11
  clock. I like it.
• 1:10:12
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it.
• 1:10:14
  No, that's nice. So where is?
• 1:10:15
  Is it around Birmingham or? Yeah, yeah, there's a place
• 1:10:19
  called Old Church Alve Church, ALVE Church, and we walk in from
• 1:10:25
  there to a place called Droitwich Spa along the canals.
• 1:10:30
  Awesome. Which Birmingham is known for
• 1:10:32
  its canals for anyone who doesn't know that.
• 1:10:35
  Right. I didn't know that.
• 1:10:37
  Yeah. There are more canals in
• 1:10:39
  Birmingham than in Venice. Where's your also lameo guys on
• 1:10:44
  the gondolas ice cream and I was Gleason they're.
• 1:10:48
  More. They're more.
• 1:10:50
  What's the word more? Polluted.
• 1:10:56
  Don't, don't make all those noises.
• 1:10:57
  I have to put them out. I was going to say they're more
• 1:11:01
  polluted than Venice, but I don't think that's actually
• 1:11:03
  true, is it? I think Venice's canals are
• 1:11:05
  pretty awful, so. Blooming's canals are famed for
• 1:11:08
  their crackheads doing magnet fishing.
• 1:11:10
  It's you. Might get high then if you drink
• 1:11:15
  a little. Bit of.
• 1:11:17
  Birmingham Canal water. The map we've got, they've
• 1:11:20
  literally like pub, pub, pub, pub, pub, pub.
• 1:11:26
  So you're going to be drinking on this walk?
• 1:11:28
  No, I can't do that. I might have a couple if people
• 1:11:31
  are having them, but I'm not going to.
• 1:11:32
  I can't do. You're not going to instigate
• 1:11:34
  it. Yeah.
• 1:11:36
  Yeah, you don't. We haven't.
• 1:11:38
  Not without much exercise. Hold up holding the P for, you
• 1:11:41
  know, another mile to get to the next week.
• 1:11:43
  It's starting. Yeah.
• 1:11:45
  Also 12 miles. I mean, that's going to take
• 1:11:47
  time. So, you know, you can't be
• 1:11:48
  stopping for too long. Get. 4 hours on you for that?
• 1:11:51
  Yeah, easily. Cool.
• 1:11:56
  Yeah, I have AI have a 5 hour drive at the weekend.
• 1:12:00
  Oh, you're going to Anglesey? And it was Anglesey or I think
• 1:12:02
  less than five hours because I'm meeting WE on a Meg's, so I need
• 1:12:07
  to put my foot down and get there quicker.
• 1:12:08
  Oh, we'll give them a big hug from me.
• 1:12:11
  No, but I'll say hello to them for me.
• 1:12:14
  Let's see how much better looking you are in person than I
• 1:12:16
  am. Yeah, I'm meeting them at a 700
• 1:12:21
  year old honey fair in North Wales.
• 1:12:25
  Cool, that's not been great thing.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah, I hate honey, but my wife and daughter love honey.
• 1:12:30
  So yeah, they're going to put a question.
• 1:12:33
  You should eat some honey rich that because that you know, that
• 1:12:37
  kind of prevents a lot of these colds and flus and stuff and man
• 1:12:41
  flu and stuff, you know. Added to this game with lemon,
• 1:12:47
  that should be saying you don't like lemon either.
• 1:12:49
  I hate lemon, it's one of my top hates in the world.
• 1:12:53
  Well, you're just you're going to have to find like an IPA or
• 1:12:55
  something from your local area that has honey in it from the.
• 1:12:58
  There is a lovely beer, it's not a local 1 but there's a lovely
• 1:13:01
  one called Honeydew. It's like a well known honey
• 1:13:04
  beer that's delicious. I'm still recovering my I think
• 1:13:07
  from the meat that Ron Twining brought to the first Legions con
• 1:13:10
  we went in made. I was hanging the day after
• 1:13:13
  that. You think the honey part of it
• 1:13:17
  was was kind? Of that was the problem.
• 1:13:20
  I don't know what it was, but I was drinking too much of it.
• 1:13:22
  And then yeah, the next day was like, remember sitting on the
• 1:13:27
  floor outside outside the the event, first time there, really
• 1:13:32
  excited. Sat the floor just got going.
• 1:13:33
  Stopped robbing. Head stopped robbing.
• 1:13:39
  I had that in the golf trip once.
• 1:13:40
  Every time I went to tee up the ball was like, my eyeballs are
• 1:13:43
  looking brain. Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  The worst golf course I was, I was young.
• 1:13:48
  I was about 20. So like, I never thought to pack
• 1:13:51
  like painkillers, you know. So it's talking to one of the
• 1:13:54
  older guys in the bar afterwards.
• 1:13:56
  He's like, oh, I have, I have these.
• 1:13:58
  You can take these two of them. And I was perfect.
• 1:14:00
  I was like, why didn't you give me the head of claps?
• 1:14:02
  Morning. The best, last, worst golf thing
• 1:14:07
  like that I had was there was a year where I was playing rugby
• 1:14:11
  on Saturday and golf on a Sunday.
• 1:14:13
  That's a bad that's. Not a brilliant.
• 1:14:16
  The other way round would have been better.
• 1:14:17
  Yes, not a brilliant combination.
• 1:14:19
  And there'd been a rugby event, so the golf tournament, first
• 1:14:23
  thing in the morning, something like 7:30 tee off or something
• 1:14:26
  like that. And I didn't drive in those
• 1:14:27
  days. So my dad, bless him, took me to
• 1:14:29
  the event which meant I got there because I would nowhere
• 1:14:32
  it'd be legal to drive and I was still drunk and I every time I
• 1:14:35
  was teeing up there was like 3 balls.
• 1:14:37
  It's like I'll just swim in the middle I'll be fine.
• 1:14:40
  I must have shot like a million. That's ridiculous.
• 1:14:47
  Valuable lesson learned then. Yeah, it's good.
• 1:14:51
  I took my kid out the other evening.
• 1:14:53
  Boy, a bit of Ben and he's 10 and I told him by the end of the
• 1:14:58
  summer I said I'd bring you out once in a buggy for nine holes.
• 1:15:02
  I brought him up like walking a good few times, but I said, you
• 1:15:05
  know your treat for the end of the summer be a buggy.
• 1:15:07
  So I saw a quite slot and we had time so went out and he got he
• 1:15:13
  drove to buggy for the most, most of the nine holes and he
• 1:15:15
  had the best time ever. It was so nice to see, you know,
• 1:15:19
  and he played actually quite good as well.
• 1:15:23
  And of course, my thing that when I'm playing with him these
• 1:15:26
  days, I'm playing great as like everything is perfect as soon as
• 1:15:29
  I'm playing in the tournament or you know, money match with
• 1:15:33
  people and garbage this weather. So maybe I need to harness that
• 1:15:37
  that chillness or something, I don't know.
• 1:15:39
  That's it needs to get planning and I haven't played for yeah
• 1:15:41
  must be 4 years since I last played now Kobe just did for it.
• 1:15:45
  The group was playing and we just fell out of it and just
• 1:15:47
  don't go back into. Yeah, there's a lot of people
• 1:15:49
  that came into it after COVID because it was one of the first
• 1:15:52
  things you could do in terms of the lockdowns.
• 1:15:54
  You could, you know, it was one of the first sports that was
• 1:15:56
  open. But there is other people, yeah,
• 1:15:59
  that just kind of got out of the habit.
• 1:16:01
  Yeah. And yeah.
• 1:16:03
  You're speaking about boogies. I remember that taking the
• 1:16:05
  podcast and a total goal for it. But me and the yeah, four of us
• 1:16:09
  and we went to a new course. We've not played in Bristol
• 1:16:12
  before and there was buggies everywhere.
• 1:16:14
  People are like, why everyone buggies?
• 1:16:15
  Lazy, lazy, so and so's whatever sort of thing.
• 1:16:18
  Mandatory. The 1st hole was just like
• 1:16:19
  totally flat. So yeah, this is just weird.
• 1:16:21
  And then the next five holes were like playing up and down
• 1:16:23
  Everest. It was just horrendous.
• 1:16:27
  I almost died on the 6th TI couldn't breathe.
• 1:16:30
  And then the next, next six holes and we're just flat,
• 1:16:33
  spirit level flat again. You're like, OK, that's, that's
• 1:16:35
  all right then. And then last six, like up,
• 1:16:37
  down, up, down. And you're like, Oh my God.
• 1:16:41
  So I've used the buggy every time we've been back.
• 1:16:43
  Yeah, yeah, our last few are no 14/15/16 are uphill.
• 1:16:51
  So that's the killer. And then if you get up to 17,
• 1:16:53
  it's downhill in and then on the front 9 it's they're all flat
• 1:16:59
  holes, but in between each holes it's either going down or going
• 1:17:02
  up ups. And you're like, I often just
• 1:17:05
  get up and I'm like, OK, I need to just I'm trying to lay here
• 1:17:10
  for 30 seconds to get my heart rate down slightly.
• 1:17:14
  You kind of don't want to be first when you get up the hill.
• 1:17:19
  Yeah, it's shown the age here. Shown the age here.
• 1:17:21
  Seriously. But yeah, so that's the crack
• 1:17:26
  Legions Can't is around the corner.
• 1:17:28
  Another episode is coming next week and we'll talk about
• 1:17:32
  something fun. I'm sure it will be Legions
• 1:17:35
  related. We we have our ox crew orders
• 1:17:39
  come in mouth. So that's going to be something
• 1:17:41
  that we will talk about soon. Rich, we will not wait for you.
• 1:17:45
  That's. Absolutely fun.
• 1:17:48
  Screws our biggest cosmic fan listener.
• 1:17:51
  We can maybe get them on and you don't.
• 1:17:54
  Replace. Are you up in Anglesey all next
• 1:17:58
  week or just? No, no, back to.
• 1:18:00
  The weekend, she's the evening, so fine.
• 1:18:02
  OK, so we're good. We're good for for next
• 1:18:05
  Wednesday recording. Very good.
• 1:18:07
  OK, I guess unless you have any more anecdotes.
• 1:18:10
  So I'm going to play so. No, I'm good.
• 1:18:15
  Remember, everybody stay safe out there.
• 1:18:17
  And I'm actually that I won't go all the way through now because
• 1:18:19
  when I was playing golf and hit myself in the face with the golf
• 1:18:22
  ball, ended up in A&E