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KEVIN - Podpah _1048 · Luke's English Podcast

4:36
Speaker 1: Pass the ball, Kapu!
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Speaker 2: I'm alone.
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5:34
Speaker 2: Mítico Jovem, estamos ao vivo para mais um Podpá e
5:40
Speaker 2: eu quero saber como você, o meu grande amor, está. Ah,
5:44
Speaker 2: eu tô bem, graças a Deus, em nome de nosso
5:46
Speaker 2: Jesus Cristo, salvador do céu e da terra.
6:01
Speaker 1: You're so funny. You're so funny, man.
6:03
Speaker 3: Seriously, man.
6:04
Speaker 1: I missed this guy so much. I was away from
6:06
Speaker 1: him for a week. I was shaking. I started to
6:07
Speaker 1: palpitate my heart. The doctor called me and asked if.
6:12
Speaker 3: I was okay.
6:12
Speaker 1: I wrote a letter for you. I missed you.
6:14
Speaker 3: Are you okay? I'm okay.
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Speaker 1: I was calm on your side.
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Speaker 3: You were breathing like a pug. Like a dog.
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Speaker 1: Breathe. Take care of your health.
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Speaker 3: You have to take inhalation. And you at home, how
6:31
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Speaker 3: million here, you know?
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Speaker 1: Alex, how many thousand subscribers are missing? Because I saw
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Speaker 1: that it's 9,9... 5 thousand? 5 thousand.
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Speaker 3: Alex doesn't even know, man. He's crazy. It's 5 thousand, right?
6:43
Speaker 1: Man, it's papo de Hyundai. This week is not a hit.
6:46
Speaker 1: Let's go, man. Podpá, Podpá. Break every day, twice a day,
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Speaker 1: a lot of things, a lot of programs here. This
6:51
Speaker 1: is good to celebrate, exactly.
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Speaker 3: Have a good day, break... 10.
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Speaker 1: In the morning, that's it, right? From 10 to 11,
7:01
Speaker 1: and then a break must be there around 8 at night.
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Speaker 1: After games there. Before, before, but 7? Anyway, so there's
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Speaker 1: a break in the morning and at night, as well as...
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Speaker 1: Every day, bro. Follow the Podpá program every Sunday, or
7:13
Speaker 1: on Monday our agenda comes out with everything we're going
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8:31
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10:00
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10:21
Speaker 1: Medico Jovem.
10:22
Speaker 3: What's up, my dear? How's it going?
10:23
Speaker 1: The Brazilian debut wasn't the way we imagined it to be, right?
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Speaker 1: It really wasn't.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't.
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Speaker 1: Marrocos made things difficult for us. And I want to
10:31
Speaker 1: know if you're confident for Game 2 against Haiti. I am.
10:36
Speaker 1: Are you? I am.
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Speaker 3: This is crazy. I'm very confident. Especially seeing the performance
10:40
Speaker 3: of our rivals yesterday. What did Messi do?
10:43
Speaker 1: Oh, Messi, what is this? Hey, Messi, for real, bro.
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Speaker 3: I thought he was going to score a Miguel yesterday,
10:49
Speaker 3: and the guy flew.
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Speaker 1: But I'm confident for Brazil. Go, put it there. The
10:52
Speaker 1: guy scored four goals yesterday.
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Speaker 3: If you change half of the players in Brazil, it's.
10:55
Speaker 1: Going to be good. Calm down. I... That's why I said, are.
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Speaker 3: You really confident? I'm confident, bro.
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Speaker 3: 2-0. Okay, I liked it.
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Speaker 1: Receive our guest today with a lot of affection. Clap
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Speaker 1: your hands. Drop this studio. Man, we've already exchanged an idea.
11:39
Speaker 1: What a cool guy. Clap your hands for our guest today, Kevin!
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Speaker 3: Good!
11:45
Speaker 1: Let's go! I like noise, that's it. I'm used to this. Thanks, Stéfano.
11:51
Speaker 1: I'm used to this. Right? Sound, crowd. How are you, brother?
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Speaker 3: I'm fine, brothers.
11:56
Speaker 1: And you?
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Speaker 3: How are you?
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Speaker 1: Great. Thank God, bro. Man, starting with something that I
12:00
Speaker 1: already realized and thought was really cool. You're a very
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Speaker 1: relaxed guy, bro. Very loose, communicative. That's cool, you know? Yeah, bro.
12:08
Speaker 1: It's a habit, right? Where does this restlessness come from? Man,
12:12
Speaker 1: the restlessness.
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Speaker 3: I didn't want to say why, but I have.
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Speaker 1: To say it, since he's there too, right? I pulled
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Speaker 1: my dad, man. You know? You don't want to give
12:22
Speaker 1: your dad a moral? No, it's because.
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Speaker 3: Later he'll be finding himself at home.
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
12:26
Speaker 3: Oh, but man, your dad... He's seven.
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Speaker 1: Years younger than us, man. He's seven? He's younger than us.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to let you try to.
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Speaker 3: Give one more kick.
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Speaker 1: To be serious now.
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Speaker 3: Seriously? Seriously.
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Speaker 1: Man, your dad looks very young. No, seriously. He looks
12:38
Speaker 1: very young, but he looks like he has some... You're 23, okay?
12:42
Speaker 1: If he was a guy... Pick my dad there. He's
12:45
Speaker 1: about 43. Oh, man... You know what I mean? But
12:50
Speaker 1: if you hit the guy, you say he's Kevin's brother.
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Speaker 3: The guys must be confused that you're brothers. Man, he's
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Speaker 3: very young.
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Speaker 1: I swear, because here we were talking about your father, right?
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Speaker 1: You have to live in Varz, man. Then he arrived,
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Speaker 1: I swear, I swear, I didn't link that he was
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Speaker 1: your father, he said... I said,'' Hey, it's me.'' He said,'' Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's you. So you're the boy's father.'' I was like,''
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Speaker 1: What the hell?'' There's no such.
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Speaker 3: Thing as a father when we think of a player's father.
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Speaker 3: It's a father that's more... A father from Neymar, right?
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Speaker 1: A little bald, Polo? More consumed by the text.
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Speaker 3: That's the right word. It's the right word. Yeah, he's very.
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Speaker 1: Preserved. He's top.
13:28
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Mr. Paulo.
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Speaker 1: But he was the.
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Speaker 3: Father that would hold you in the hand as a kid.
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Speaker 1: And would teach you how to unwind? How was your experience?
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Speaker 1: It's because I grew up on the field, you know?
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Speaker 1: And like, every time I had to talk to one,
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Speaker 1: with the other, with one, with the other, and catching
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Speaker 1: the ball, kicking it.
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Speaker 3: And then I was developed like that, part of me too.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but it's because we already know a lot
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Speaker 3: of players. There are players who are more shy.
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Speaker 1: Most of them are, right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, more shy.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm shy, until a certain moment. Okay, I got it.
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Speaker 1: Until a certain moment, later too. brother you are from
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Speaker 1: Itaipaulista I wanted to know how was your childhood there
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Speaker 1: in Itaipaulista a lot of soccer how was it there
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Speaker 1: you kid bro I grew up first I grew up
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Speaker 1: in Vilamara in Jardim Helena and then I played in
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Speaker 1: the field of the station and then bro I started
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Speaker 1: playing I was 7 years old I think in the
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Speaker 1: field already in the field I played with older boys
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Speaker 1: like 9 10 years old and then I grew up
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Speaker 1: I was training at the stadium, and then I started
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Speaker 1: going to some team. Okay, but at 7 years old,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll remember, but did you feel
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Speaker 1: that you were better than the older kids? Yeah, I
14:35
Speaker 1: was already boring. Your dad used to say, like, damn,
14:37
Speaker 1: the kid is different. It's because, my dad, I grew
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Speaker 1: up watching him playing on the field. And then, VAR game,
14:43
Speaker 1: and then it's over for the first time, go there,
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Speaker 1: get the ball and start shooting in the goal, back
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Speaker 1: and forth. And everyone used to say that I already
14:48
Speaker 1: had a strength, like, equivalent to a 10-year-old kid, and
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Speaker 1: I with 7. And then everyone used to tell me
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Speaker 1: that I could be good. And then it was like this, man.
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Speaker 1: He'd get the ball and spend the whole day on
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Speaker 1: the field.
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Speaker 3: And how was you at school? At that time, as
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Speaker 3: a kid, mixed with football.
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Speaker 1: I just thought about playing ball, man. I just wanted
15:04
Speaker 1: to get physical education. And then, when it was a break,
15:07
Speaker 1: you know? When you take the paper ball, put the tape...
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Speaker 1: Make a ball and play. It was 20 minutes of break,
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Speaker 1: just playing ball. Passed and took? I'd go back to
15:14
Speaker 1: school too.
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Speaker 3: Sweaty.
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Speaker 1: I'd pass it all sweaty. Wow, that's cool. My mom
15:19
Speaker 1: said it was cool, Igor. Your shirt doesn't last three hours.
15:22
Speaker 1: That's right, I used to wear it on my bag.
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Speaker 3: I used to wear it.
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Speaker 1: On my school bag. So your life was soccer, man.
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Speaker 1: Only soccer.
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Speaker 3: But since you were a kid, did you want to
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Speaker 3: have a professional career? How was that expectation? Did your
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Speaker 3: family put that faith in you?
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Speaker 1: At first, when we were kids, we didn't think about
15:42
Speaker 1: playing professionally. We just thought about playing first. It's still
15:45
Speaker 1: far away, I just wanted to play. I wanted to
15:47
Speaker 1: play all the time, but it was only soccer. I
15:48
Speaker 1: didn't want to play soccer, I didn't want to play basketball,
15:50
Speaker 1: I didn't want anything, only soccer. And then, after I
15:54
Speaker 1: grew up, and I saw that I could become something
15:57
Speaker 1: more serious, then I realized that I didn't want to be.
16:00
Speaker 1: But at what age did you start, together with your family,
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Speaker 1: to draw a career plan to try to become a
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Speaker 1: professional soccer player? Because this decision has to be made early, right? Man,
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Speaker 1: I think I was 11 or 12. You're crazy. At 12,
16:12
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, I traveled to Chile. in a
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Speaker 1: little school in Jardim Helena. Then I traveled to Chile,
16:18
Speaker 1: then I came back from Chile and then I went
16:20
Speaker 1: to another team, I went to Atlético Mineiro. But when
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Speaker 1: a 12-year-old soccer player, amateur, goes to Chile, he already
16:25
Speaker 1: gets a leg back, right? Because I've already tried the cold. Man,
16:30
Speaker 1: there was no way without legs, why? The first time
16:32
Speaker 1: I went to Chile by bus.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
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Speaker 1: Three days. Three days by bus. Think about it.
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Speaker 3: But you were full of kids too?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of kids. I think it was three categories.
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Speaker 1: It was a sub-12, a sub-15 and a sub-17.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Think about it, 20 kids each. Man, I'll tell you.
16:53
Speaker 1: Family has to be a very crazy thing at this time. Because, like,
16:57
Speaker 1: they want to take care of you. You're 11 years old,
17:00
Speaker 1: but they also know that you have to go. It's difficult. Wow,
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Speaker 1: how do.
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Speaker 3: You send your son three days?
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Speaker 1: You're crazy. But how was it there, then?
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Speaker 3: Man, it was top.
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Speaker 1: But, like, there the championship... I'm not going to say
17:11
Speaker 1: it was easy, right? Because I'm going to look like... No,
17:15
Speaker 1: but how... But for you at that time... Yeah, it
17:19
Speaker 1: was easy.
17:20
Speaker 3: But like.
17:20
Speaker 1: But it's like, the guys also... It looked like I
17:22
Speaker 1: was way behind.
17:23
Speaker 3: You know?
17:23
Speaker 1: Then I played in two categories. I played in mine,
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Speaker 1: which was sub-11, sub-12. And I played in sub-13. But
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Speaker 1: way behind, do you mean physically or technically?
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Speaker 3: Both.
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Speaker 1: It's that... As I can say, I... I always liked
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Speaker 1: to run. I always liked to run. Run there and
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Speaker 1: run there. And then it looked like I was left.
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Speaker 1: I was in one game and I wanted to play another.
17:39
Speaker 1: And I wanted to play another. I used to play
17:42
Speaker 1: 3 games a day. And I was fine.
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Speaker 3: I was at home and I wanted.
17:45
Speaker 1: To go out. But people say that new guys have
17:46
Speaker 1: to hold their legs, that they can't play for a
17:48
Speaker 1: long time. Hold what? It doesn't matter, bro. Just study,
17:51
Speaker 1: you're new, just study. You don't work well yet, but
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Speaker 1: hold for what? So how was this role there? How
17:56
Speaker 1: many days did you stay? What was the result from there?
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Speaker 3: I stayed for a month. I was champion there, I did.
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Speaker 3: I think there were 7 games, I scored 30 goals.
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Speaker 1: No. What is this, bro? It was easy. It was,
18:13
Speaker 1: that's why I said. Then, when I came back from there,
18:15
Speaker 1: I came back from there and went to Atlético Mineiro.
18:18
Speaker 1: But you don't stay in Galo for a long time, right?
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Speaker 3: No.
18:20
Speaker 1: In Galo, what happens? As I went there very young,
18:22
Speaker 1: the clubs have a policy of only lodging with 14
18:24
Speaker 1: years old. And you were 12, right? I was 12,
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Speaker 1: 12 to 13. And then, I did the test there,
18:29
Speaker 1: I was there doing the test, I did two weeks
18:30
Speaker 1: of test and passed. And I had to stay in
18:33
Speaker 1: a hostel, which was like a hotel, but only for
18:35
Speaker 1: boys who play in the club, you know? Then, you
18:37
Speaker 1: just had to pay per month, I didn't have that money.
18:39
Speaker 1: Then we made an agreement with the team to stay,
18:41
Speaker 1: I would go, every six months I would go there
18:43
Speaker 1: and stay one or two weeks. But then it also
18:46
Speaker 1: started to weigh a lot, because the guys were complaining
18:49
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't go, that I wouldn't stay, that I
18:50
Speaker 1: wouldn't participate in the games, in the training. Yeah, you're
18:52
Speaker 1: seen as a little star there, right? Like, the guy
18:54
Speaker 1: just arrives, two weeks, plays and leaves. Then the guys
18:56
Speaker 1: went there and said that they couldn't stay that way,
18:58
Speaker 1: or I would pay everything or the guys wouldn't help
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Speaker 1: me either.
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Speaker 3: But at the time it wasn't possible, it was too expensive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was about, I think, about R $ 1,500
19:06
Speaker 1: per month.
19:07
Speaker 3: But.
19:07
Speaker 1: 10, 15 years ago? Yes, more than the minimum wage,
19:10
Speaker 1: much more. Then I came back and stayed in Escolinha again,
19:15
Speaker 1: then at 13 I went to Desportivo Brasil, there in
19:17
Speaker 1: the interior of São Paulo. Okay, but I want to
19:20
Speaker 1: go back to a stage before you said you did
19:21
Speaker 1: tests in Galo and passed. Obviously, close to the other
19:26
Speaker 1: normal kids, let's say, you had an extra facility, but
19:29
Speaker 1: when you are leveled in a club already there, like Galo,
19:34
Speaker 1: Did you have a hard time? How are these tests
19:36
Speaker 1: for you? What did you have to do to prove yourself?
19:39
Speaker 1: Was it a game? Was it a physical test? When
19:42
Speaker 1: you get to the club, everything changes, right? bro? Then, like,
19:44
Speaker 1: your mind also changes, you already want, I don't know,
19:47
Speaker 1: to get a little more afraid of making mistakes too.
19:49
Speaker 1: But what counts the most is also a lot of
19:50
Speaker 1: physical body, you know? Like, run back and forth, hold on.
19:53
Speaker 1: It's not just running and staying. You have to hold on,
19:56
Speaker 1: keep your body.
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Speaker 3: Stay well.
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Speaker 1: Yes. And then what changed for me was this, bro. Because, like,
20:00
Speaker 1: technical quality I know I have. Since I was younger,
20:03
Speaker 1: I knew I had it. So, for me, what really
20:04
Speaker 1: weighed was this.
20:05
Speaker 3: But you didn't get, like... How did you get... You
20:08
Speaker 3: were already there on a team, you had to come back,
20:11
Speaker 3: weren't you frustrated?
20:12
Speaker 1: Because my mind was still a child, I was only
20:14
Speaker 1: 13 years old. And for me, I was still very young.
20:16
Speaker 1: There was no dimension, right? Yes, I didn't know, like, ah,
20:18
Speaker 1: I lost this, I don't want it anymore. For me,
20:20
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about it, man. Let's go to
20:22
Speaker 1: the next one. I came back home, I'm going to
20:24
Speaker 1: be good here. But have you ever exchanged ideas with
20:25
Speaker 1: your parents? Like, okay, how was it for you when
20:28
Speaker 1: Atlético Mineiro didn't work? Because they can look and say
20:30
Speaker 1: like this, pô, you lost a chance of life. No,
20:31
Speaker 1: it's because my father asked me if I wanted to
20:33
Speaker 1: stay there. That's cool, that's cool. And then I said
20:35
Speaker 1: that no, pô... There was no way. There was nothing
20:38
Speaker 1: at home for me to stay there. I said I
20:41
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I came back, but after a while,
20:44
Speaker 1: I went to another team. How did you get the
20:48
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to Sportivo Brasil? I went to Jardim Helena.
20:53
Speaker 1: There was a game.
20:54
Speaker 3: Varza?
20:54
Speaker 1: Yes, it was a little school. There was a game.
20:57
Speaker 1: I went to play that game. If I'm not mistaken,
20:58
Speaker 1: it was a semi-final or a quarter-final. I played that game.
21:01
Speaker 1: It was 3x0, 3 goals. Wow. Then the guy was
21:02
Speaker 1: looking at me. And he took me there, but I
21:06
Speaker 1: was 13 years old. And the team's policy was to
21:08
Speaker 1: stay home before I turned 14. But what did he do?
21:10
Speaker 1: He rented me out when I was 13.
21:13
Speaker 3: He did what he wanted.
21:14
Speaker 1: Then he rented me out when I was 13. Then
21:15
Speaker 1: I stayed there when I was 13. But then you
21:17
Speaker 1: didn't have to pay anything. No, I stayed at the lodging.
21:20
Speaker 1: You're ours.
21:22
Speaker 3: How is it an experience, man, of a 13-year-old boy...
21:24
Speaker 3: He went out to live alone.
21:26
Speaker 1: Man, you know what was cool? At my age, there
21:28
Speaker 1: was only me. So... The boys... Yeah. Like, there was
21:31
Speaker 1: only me in 2003, then the rest... It was all
21:33
Speaker 1: 2002 and up. And I was the only one in 2003.
21:37
Speaker 1: And when the guys from 2003 arrived, I was the
21:39
Speaker 1: only one there. The guys would talk to me. The
21:40
Speaker 1: guy is new, he's the only one here.
21:43
Speaker 3: This guy is different. Yeah, because he arrives with a
21:47
Speaker 3: different status, right?
21:48
Speaker 1: And that's... Roughly speaking, when a student from a particular
21:52
Speaker 1: school arrives at school, everyone is like, this guy has
21:56
Speaker 1: the traits we don't have. Then comes a guy from
21:58
Speaker 1: another category, like, man, the guy is younger than us,
22:01
Speaker 1: he's stronger, he plays better, so you... And how was it?
22:03
Speaker 3: Did the guys welcome you well? Did you manage to
22:06
Speaker 3: get along from the beginning?
22:08
Speaker 1: Man, because at the beginning I was shy, like I said.
22:12
Speaker 3: Then what?
22:12
Speaker 1: In the first two months I got scared. I got
22:14
Speaker 1: beaten too, right? Because I'm the youngest. I'm the youngest.
22:17
Speaker 1: If I do anything, I don't know, I can take
22:19
Speaker 1: a shell there or another one here. But it was good,
22:23
Speaker 1: the guys were all, bro.
22:24
Speaker 3: Man, I have a question about this scheme of this time,
22:27
Speaker 3: of this phase of you guys. How does the routine work, bro?
22:30
Speaker 3: Do you have time to sleep? Do you close everyone? Silence?
22:34
Speaker 3: What is this schedule of accommodation?
22:35
Speaker 1: Do the coaches shoot the video game?
22:37
Speaker 3: Wake up at this time, lunch at this time.
22:40
Speaker 1: There's time for everything. When I got there, I studied
22:44
Speaker 1: in the afternoon. So, what happens? We trained in the morning. Then,
22:47
Speaker 1: from 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., breakfast in the morning. Then,
22:50
Speaker 1: from 11 a.m. to, I don't know, midday, I train. Then,
22:53
Speaker 1: an hour lunch and an hour and a half to
22:54
Speaker 1: go to school. Then, I came back from school at
22:56
Speaker 1: about 7 p.m. And from there, you had free time.
22:59
Speaker 1: But at 10 o'clock, everyone had to be in the room.
23:01
Speaker 1: I see. And the room was for video games. And
23:03
Speaker 1: the room was for six people, I think.
23:06
Speaker 3: Ah, so it was a reserve. One here, one here,
23:07
Speaker 3: one here.
23:08
Speaker 1: It was six people. Was there a TV, video games,
23:11
Speaker 1: all that stuff? Ah, it was smooth.
23:12
Speaker 3: You could take a picture. No, but I don't like
23:16
Speaker 3: video games, man.
23:17
Speaker 1: Ballgame is another. Ballgame is Free Fire. Ballgame is Free Fire.
23:19
Speaker 1: So you were already here.
23:21
Speaker 3: I'm very good at Free Fire. You already had Free
23:23
Speaker 3: Fire at that time? Oh, man!
23:25
Speaker 1: Free Fire started in 2019. Calm down, bro.
23:26
Speaker 3: 2018.
23:27
Speaker 1: You're going to get mad. Free Fire is... Free Fire
23:29
Speaker 1: is just a cover, son of a bitch. No, and
23:30
Speaker 1: then I told the guys like this. I told the
23:31
Speaker 1: guys like this. I said, bro, I can't go next week.
23:34
Speaker 1: The guys said like this. Send a hello to the
23:35
Speaker 1: Free Fire trope. Send it and play. I'm sending it now. Vitinho,
23:37
Speaker 1: Ti and André.
23:38
Speaker 3: It's us.
23:38
Speaker 1: So Free Fire was Free Fire and football at that time.
23:40
Speaker 3: Until today.
23:41
Speaker 1: But be careful of... Okay, I can't stay too long
23:54
Speaker 1: in the Free Fire, I have to sleep here too.
23:55
Speaker 1: Do you have the balance of the thing? It depends, bro.
23:57
Speaker 1: It's new, it's new. No, there are days when it's
23:59
Speaker 1: not possible. No, there are days when it's not possible. No,
24:00
Speaker 1: there are days when it's not possible. No, there are
24:03
Speaker 1: days when it's not possible. No, there are days when
24:05
Speaker 1: it's not possible. No, there are days when.
24:06
Speaker 3: It's not possible. No, there are days when it's not possible.
24:08
Speaker 1: No, there are days when it's not possible. No, there
24:10
Speaker 1: are days when it's not possible. No, there are days
24:11
Speaker 1: when it's not possible.
24:12
Speaker 3: No, there are days when it's not possible. No, there
24:15
Speaker 3: are days when it's not possible. No, there are days
24:16
Speaker 3: when it's not possible.
24:17
Speaker 1: No, there are days when it's not possible. No, there
24:19
Speaker 1: are days when it's not possible. No, there are days
24:21
Speaker 1: when it's not possible. No, there are days when I
24:23
Speaker 1: would take the extension of the room, put it in
24:24
Speaker 1: the hallway and everyone would play Free Fire. Key.
24:27
Speaker 3: Top.
24:27
Speaker 1: It was the best thing, bro. But did you also
24:29
Speaker 1: follow the Free Fire scene a lot on YouTube, the
24:32
Speaker 1: little guys? Nobru, Serol, Level Up.
24:35
Speaker 3: I saw everything there. He's new, he's from the new generation.
24:38
Speaker 1: He's from the generation of the kids, because, bro, do
24:42
Speaker 1: you remember? When we started Podpato, like, we brought Serol, Nobru,
24:46
Speaker 1: The BAC was like 80,000 people watching it. The kids
24:51
Speaker 1: were really excited.
24:52
Speaker 3: At that time, Free Fire was really strong.
24:54
Speaker 1: But did you play the other games that emulated Free Fire?
24:59
Speaker 1: Like PUBG, there was another one... Was it Serol who
25:02
Speaker 1: released a game? I don't remember. It's Gato.
25:04
Speaker 3: It's Gato.
25:05
Speaker 1: It's Hiro. It's Hiro. I don't know.
25:09
Speaker 3: It's a mistake.
25:09
Speaker 1: I didn't play it.
25:11
Speaker 3: I didn't play it.
25:12
Speaker 1: PUBG I tried to play, but I didn't get it.
25:15
Speaker 1: Tentei jogar de computador também, só que não dá. O
25:16
Speaker 1: que você acha que o Free Fire pegou mais? Porque
25:19
Speaker 1: ele é mais liso, roda muito bom.
25:20
Speaker 3: Eu pegava em qualquer celular também, mano.
25:22
Speaker 1: É muito bom o Free Fire. Muito bom, né? Sei lá,
25:24
Speaker 1: porque eu sou muito bom.
25:25
Speaker 3: Eu joguei no começo do Free Fire, eu já peguei.
25:28
Speaker 1: Mas você é bom até hoje. Eu sou muito bom.
25:30
Speaker 1: Você não usa nem hacker, essas paradas. Nada, nada. Sabe
25:33
Speaker 1: que os caras usam, né? Não, eu pego esses caras
25:35
Speaker 1: que usam aí também.
25:36
Speaker 3: Você joga no celular?
25:37
Speaker 1: No celular. Mano, você tinha que ir junto. Dá vontade
25:40
Speaker 1: de baixar um bagunzinho de vez em quando, só que
25:41
Speaker 1: eu não uso, não.
25:42
Speaker 3: No, it's normal. Man, you can see that he really
25:46
Speaker 3: likes Free Fire.
25:47
Speaker 1: He's happy. You know what's cool? Because now it's lunch time, right?
25:51
Speaker 3: Right.
25:51
Speaker 1: Now it's time for Free Fire to happen. It happens
25:54
Speaker 1: every day. Calm down, man. It happens every day. No,
25:56
Speaker 1: but it's cool. I'm here with you. It's cool.
25:59
Speaker 3: It's cool.
26:00
Speaker 1: The cell phone vibrates here in my pocket. I was coming,
26:02
Speaker 1: I was coming here. You had to bring the crew.
26:04
Speaker 1: The car was... No, but the guys are all far
26:06
Speaker 1: from each other.
26:06
Speaker 3: I got it.
26:07
Speaker 1: Vitinho is in Londrina. I was in Marília and André
26:11
Speaker 1: was in Bebedouro.
26:12
Speaker 3: Were you all players?
26:14
Speaker 1: André and Vitinho were, but I stopped. I played as
26:17
Speaker 1: Cruzeiro and now I'm in CLT. And you're the best
26:20
Speaker 1: of them all in Free Fire. I'm not saying I'm
26:22
Speaker 1: the best, or I'll be cursed. But I'm there between
26:24
Speaker 1: the first and the second. And who's there between the
26:28
Speaker 1: first and the second? Vitinho. I'm addicted. It's always been good.
26:32
Speaker 1: I was more or less. But when you get the evolution...
26:35
Speaker 1: The practice, right?
26:36
Speaker 3: How many kills do you get in a match?
26:39
Speaker 1: No, it's per day. No, per game.
26:42
Speaker 3: Per game, man.
26:44
Speaker 1: If you look at my history here, it's 13, 12. No,
26:47
Speaker 1: but it's that little room posted, you know? No, I
26:50
Speaker 1: don't play that much. Man, it's too cool. You get
26:52
Speaker 1: it on Discord. On Discord, you go there, enter an org,
26:55
Speaker 1: and then there are several things. There's emulator, there's just mobile.
26:59
Speaker 1: What do you play? Just mobile.
27:01
Speaker 3: Okay.
27:01
Speaker 1: If not, it's a steal, right? No, there's no way.
27:03
Speaker 1: Emulator doesn't work. Have you ever tried to play with emulator?
27:05
Speaker 1: It doesn't work, man. I can't, man. On PC, right?
27:07
Speaker 1: It doesn't follow my fingers, no. My brother plays. My
27:11
Speaker 1: brother plays.
27:11
Speaker 3: Is he younger or older?
27:14
Speaker 1: Younger. Then you'll start to realize, bro. The younger ones...
27:17
Speaker 1: You're still young. I was taking a wave here. When
27:19
Speaker 1: we started the podcast, you were 25, right? You're old.
27:21
Speaker 1: I'm from here and stuff. You talked about Free Fire, bro.
27:24
Speaker 3: I was here.
27:24
Speaker 1: Cool, Free Fire.
27:24
Speaker 3: His brother will already swallow you in the other visa.
27:27
Speaker 1: My brother plays CS too, I think. I think it's
27:29
Speaker 1: CS in the emulator. I'm addicted, bro. I stay the
27:33
Speaker 1: whole day playing CS.
27:34
Speaker 3: How old is your brother?
27:35
Speaker 1: 16. Is he good at football? He's good. Only he's
27:37
Speaker 1: different from me. Totally different. He's in another one still.
27:39
Speaker 1: What do you mean, totally different? I'm fast, dribbling, Daniel
27:44
Speaker 1: is calm, loose, let the others run to him, but
27:47
Speaker 1: the ball comes to his left, it's something else. I
27:49
Speaker 1: got it, he's the 10th and you're the 11th, right?
27:51
Speaker 1: I got it. And he's playing, he's playing.
27:53
Speaker 3: He's playing at Paulista, at Suzano.
27:55
Speaker 1: Do you know what's the worst about them? That they
27:57
Speaker 1: know they're good. So, it's loose, and it's loose, right?
28:00
Speaker 1: And the ball.
28:01
Speaker 3: Always goes to his foot. And he doesn't want to
28:04
Speaker 3: run to anyone.
28:05
Speaker 1: That's it, because he knows it's good. I told Daniel,
28:07
Speaker 1: I watched his game, Your dad is like this. No,
28:10
Speaker 1: I was in England. Then he sent me the game's link.
28:13
Speaker 1: Then I said, Daniel, I'm going to watch it. But
28:15
Speaker 1: you watch it and charge him? I watch it, of
28:17
Speaker 1: course I send a message. Daniel is a cornet player too.
28:20
Speaker 1: Then I watched it and said yes to him. I said, man,
28:24
Speaker 1: in all the time I saw in the game, you
28:25
Speaker 1: didn't give a sprint.
28:26
Speaker 3: I said, man. And what did he answer?
28:29
Speaker 1: He said, ah, I wasn't catching the ball right. I said,
28:31
Speaker 1: but running is another thing than catching the ball.
28:33
Speaker 3: But you're a runner, man.
28:35
Speaker 1: No, but I understand that. But this is something that
28:40
Speaker 1: is very high in football today. Obviously we were playing
28:43
Speaker 1: here with your brother's thing. But you see, there was
28:48
Speaker 1: a rise now that took the numbers of Mbappé. He
28:50
Speaker 1: is behind the goalkeepers, the guy who least helps. He
28:53
Speaker 1: doesn't run for anyone. And then they started bringing Luiz
28:56
Speaker 1: Henrique again, talking to him. He said, man, you are
28:59
Speaker 1: the best of all. But you need to run for
29:02
Speaker 1: your team. Because then you will be even better and
29:05
Speaker 1: an example.
29:05
Speaker 3: Then he did this.
29:08
Speaker 1: Nice.
29:09
Speaker 3: And the problem now is that the list of the
29:12
Speaker 3: national team, who ran the least, was only talking about running. Yeah, so.
29:16
Speaker 1: These days, it's all about running. Football is about running.
29:19
Speaker 1: So you can't just play with the technical quality, right? Today,
29:20
Speaker 1: there's no way. When did you understand that, Kevin? Since
29:23
Speaker 1: you were a kid, you were already an athlete. When
29:25
Speaker 1: I was at Palmeiras' base, I was 18. I was
29:27
Speaker 1: playing at the base for a year. I was the starter.
29:30
Speaker 1: But then another coach came, Paulo Vitor, E já era.
29:39
Speaker 1: Fiquei no banco. he came to me and showed me
29:31
Speaker 1: a video I'm in the room like this and said
29:33
Speaker 1: like this bro it's the following only you Only me.
29:55
Speaker 1: It's like this, you have to do this, this, this,
29:57
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to help you. If you don't improve
29:58
Speaker 1: on this, you'll have to wait a little. Then, you know,
30:02
Speaker 1: when you get in on one side and get out
30:04
Speaker 1: on the other. That's what it was for me. A
30:07
Speaker 1: month passed and I was on the bench. I stayed,
30:11
Speaker 1: I stayed, I stayed on the bench. And it must
30:12
Speaker 1: be difficult, I'm not saying it was a judgment, but
30:14
Speaker 1: you look and say like this, damn, maybe I would
30:16
Speaker 1: score this goal, maybe I would be... Yes, that's the shit,
30:17
Speaker 1: the shit of being younger is that you think, he's
30:19
Speaker 1: fucking with me, you know? But he's signing there, right?
30:21
Speaker 1: He already wanted to take me to put another one.
30:24
Speaker 1: But after you change your mind, you understand that he
30:26
Speaker 1: helped me a lot. For me, I think that until today,
30:28
Speaker 1: he was the greatest coach I've ever had. Paulo Vitor.
30:30
Speaker 3: And how was the beginning of this change? Man, so.
30:33
Speaker 1: With the 19th, that's when we won the first cup.
30:37
Speaker 1: Let's go back first. Yeah, calm down. How are you
30:39
Speaker 1: going to stop at Palmeiras? Because how do you get
30:42
Speaker 1: out of Desportivo? Because we were talking about Desportivo, we
30:44
Speaker 1: talked about Free Fire, the kid went crazy. Yeah, I
30:48
Speaker 1: went crazy. But how do you get out of Desportivo
30:51
Speaker 1: to get to Palmeiras? Because, man... Palmeiras today at the
30:54
Speaker 1: base level and professional level is an absurd.
30:57
Speaker 3: I was at Palmeiras with a good team.
30:59
Speaker 1: Man, I was at Esportivo and then I played with
31:03
Speaker 1: São Paulo. With 18, 17. 16 to 17. 2020, at
31:07
Speaker 1: the time of the pandemic. And then what happens? I
31:10
Speaker 1: played and I did very well. I did very well.
31:13
Speaker 1: Then came Palmeiras and came other clubs behind me. Then
31:16
Speaker 1: I went, visited the clubs, went to Palmeiras, only I
31:18
Speaker 1: chose Palmeiras. Okay, I saw that. There was Flamengo, Santos.
31:22
Speaker 1: Why did you choose Palmeiras? I think Palmeiras presented a
31:25
Speaker 1: better plan, you know? Of career for you? Yes, of
31:27
Speaker 1: career for me. In the form of, besides being a player,
31:30
Speaker 1: being a human being too. In the matter of life too.
31:33
Speaker 1: I was going to stay closer to my parents too.
31:34
Speaker 1: I was going to stay at my house. Where I
31:37
Speaker 1: trained before was in Guarulhos.
31:39
Speaker 3: Yes.
31:39
Speaker 1: At home. Yes. Then I chose Palmeiras. And what happens?
31:43
Speaker 1: After I chose Palmeiras, the pandemic started. Everything stopped. Everything stopped.
31:48
Speaker 1: Then Melo too. The guys didn't want to sell me anymore.
31:50
Speaker 1: And then... Desportivo. Then they didn't want to sell me
31:53
Speaker 1: anymore and everything stopped. Then I stayed from February until October. Waiting. Wow,
31:59
Speaker 1: you got a wax.
32:00
Speaker 3: I was anxious.
32:00
Speaker 1: And I didn't play neither there nor in Palmeiras. Because
32:03
Speaker 1: it stopped there and it stopped in Palmeiras. Palmeiras came back,
32:05
Speaker 1: but it came back because they played other competitions. Brazilian,
32:08
Speaker 1: Copa do Brasil. Desportivo only played Paulista. Fuck. And then
32:11
Speaker 1: the guys didn't want to let me go. Why did
32:13
Speaker 1: you want to stay?
32:14
Speaker 3: Because, like.
32:17
Speaker 3: Money! But it was going to happen.
32:20
Speaker 1: No, but it depends, then you see who valued more,
32:22
Speaker 1: now in this situation, it became a pandemic, safe, calm,
32:26
Speaker 1: it's a lot. Then what happens, it came to the
32:28
Speaker 1: loan option agreement. Then I went there, one year borrowed.
32:31
Speaker 1: Then if it didn't work out, I would go back
32:33
Speaker 1: to the sports team. Then I came back in November, bro.
32:37
Speaker 1: From February to November, without playing. Then I came back,
32:41
Speaker 1: then I trained, my first training was in the Allianz,
32:43
Speaker 1: I think. It was in the Allianz. With the guys
32:45
Speaker 1: very shocked, powerful. And you were going to say, and timid? Nervoso. Estádio, pá!
32:49
Speaker 1: E aí foi ter um jogo já. Era semifinal do Brasileiro,
32:54
Speaker 1: só que eu não joguei. Aí joguei na outra semana
32:56
Speaker 1: que foi Copa do Brasil.
32:59
Speaker 3: Jogou bem?
32:59
Speaker 1: Pô, fiz dois gols, mano. Acho que foi bem. Foi bem. Chave. Não,
33:04
Speaker 1: também é tipo, aqueles jogos que você pega que é
33:09
Speaker 1: início de Copa do Brasil, igual tipo um time vai
33:11
Speaker 1: jogar lá. Longe, sim. Então, era esses. We made this game.
33:15
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, man. If you don't score in those,
33:17
Speaker 1: you're not against Corinthians, for example, to play against. That's it. Then,
33:21
Speaker 1: after that, everything started to work out in Palmeiras. Okay, bro,
33:24
Speaker 1: but I want to know for you, like, if this
33:28
Speaker 1: very professional structure, stadium, players there who are being cut
33:34
Speaker 1: down to become professionals, it wasn't there anymore, since the Desportivo,
33:37
Speaker 1: I think since before, but there in Palmeiras, I think
33:40
Speaker 1: you must have looked there and said, like, man, It's
33:42
Speaker 1: really serious. It's really serious. Like, here I have to train,
33:45
Speaker 1: I have to improve physically, build muscles. Imagine that there
33:49
Speaker 1: must be... When I got there, I was skinny, man. Skinny, skinny, skinny, skinny.
33:51
Speaker 1: And they tell you, like, I want you to get
33:53
Speaker 1: in this weight, I want you to stay with this structure.
33:55
Speaker 1: How is the plan? It's because, like, the whole team
33:57
Speaker 1: is changing. I got to Palmeiras, I was in weight,
33:59
Speaker 1: then the guys made me change to another weight. Okay.
34:02
Speaker 1: I got to Shakhtar, then the weight, I went to
34:03
Speaker 1: change to another weight. And today I went to change
34:05
Speaker 1: to another weight again. But always getting stronger, heavier or lighter?
34:08
Speaker 1: Explain to me. Yeah. As I can say, it's a
34:12
Speaker 1: different job, you know? It makes me gain muscle, but
34:15
Speaker 1: the muscle doesn't interfere with my speed. Because I'm an
34:17
Speaker 1: agile and light player. And then I can't gain too
34:19
Speaker 1: much muscle and lose it. But you also have to gain, right?
34:22
Speaker 1: But you have to gain. Especially now, in England. Okay,
34:24
Speaker 1: but then you feel that when you arrived from Palmeiras
34:26
Speaker 1: to Ukraine, you arrived, in quotes, more heavy? From Palmeiras
34:29
Speaker 1: to Ukraine? No. No. I arrived, like, I was.
34:39
Speaker 1: Good in the physical, but you have to improve a
34:43
Speaker 1: lot too, because there is a lot of physical too.
34:45
Speaker 1: And then from Ukraine, when you go to England... No,
34:47
Speaker 1: forget it. Then you have to win a lot there.
34:49
Speaker 1: I got there with 70, now I'm with 80. Damn,
34:51
Speaker 1: that's a lot of shit, bro. And it's good, man.
34:53
Speaker 1: You know? It doesn't seem like it's... It's muscle, right?
34:56
Speaker 3: Gaining muscle.
34:57
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it's... You have to win, bro.
35:00
Speaker 1: There you have to win. The guys say you have
35:02
Speaker 1: to give more still.
35:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, right?
35:04
Speaker 1: Because there it's... Let's go back.
35:05
Speaker 3: How long did you stay in Palmeiras?
35:08
Speaker 1: I arrived with 17 and left with... I was 21,
35:10
Speaker 1: I stayed there for 4 years. But it was a
35:13
Speaker 1: base job, right? Yeah, I stayed there until I was 20.
35:17
Speaker 1: I stayed at the base until I was 20. After
35:20
Speaker 1: the São Paulo Cup, I went up. What's the importance
35:24
Speaker 1: of a base job, Kevin? Because we've talked to players
35:26
Speaker 1: who didn't have a base job. Because they left VARSA
35:30
Speaker 1: and became professionals. And how was it for you when
35:33
Speaker 1: you arrived in Palmeiras? What did that period in Palmeiras
35:35
Speaker 1: teach you? Like you said, that you learned how to run,
35:38
Speaker 1: that you had to run. that taught you to be
35:41
Speaker 1: a better professional and not just trust that you are good,
35:44
Speaker 1: you know? Yes. Man, it's like, the base helps you
35:48
Speaker 1: in many things. It's because it's already something different, you
35:52
Speaker 1: already started to get understanding of the game, understanding outside
35:55
Speaker 1: of the game. Because besides you understanding about the game,
35:58
Speaker 1: there are people behind it that will also help you
36:01
Speaker 1: about other things, you know? Psychologist. Psychologist is very important.
36:03
Speaker 1: It's very, right brother? Very important. And there's a base
36:06
Speaker 1: game that you don't realize, but there's a game that
36:08
Speaker 1: gets 10,000, it's a lot, but the professional is not
36:11
Speaker 1: even there. Today, for me, if I got 10,000, I'm fine.
36:14
Speaker 1: But how many years ago, if I got 10,000 in
36:16
Speaker 1: the stadium, I would shake my legs. So there's that
36:19
Speaker 1: to help. And then, what else? The physical. When you're
36:24
Speaker 1: doing very well in the sub-20, and you think you're
36:25
Speaker 1: going to do very well in the professional, it's totally different. Really, bro?
36:28
Speaker 1: Very different. But the academy there at Palmeiras is something that...
36:32
Speaker 1: We even made a visit there. It's a European structure, right?
36:34
Speaker 1: Better than the European team. Better? Better than the European team.
36:37
Speaker 1: There's no way. It's very top there.
36:39
Speaker 3: And you were new.
36:40
Speaker 1: You're still new. Who were your partners there? Palmeiras? Yeah.
36:42
Speaker 3: Palmeiras.
36:43
Speaker 1: Palmeiras.
36:43
Speaker 3: Palmeiras.
36:44
Speaker 2: Palmeiras.
36:44
Speaker 3: Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras.
36:49
Speaker 1: Palmeiras.
36:50
Speaker 3: Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras.
36:51
Speaker 1: Palmeiras. Palmeiras.
36:52
Speaker 3: Palmeiras.
36:53
Speaker 1: Palmeiras.
36:53
Speaker 3: Palmeiras. Palmeiras.
36:54
Speaker 1: Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras.
36:56
Speaker 3: Palmeiras.
36:57
Speaker 1: Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras.
36:58
Speaker 3: Palmeiras.
36:58
Speaker 1: Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras. Palmeiras.
37:00
Speaker 3: Palmeiras.
37:00
Speaker 1: Palmeiras. Palme Pedro Lima. I think I played more with
37:05
Speaker 1: these guys. Then, after they left for another team, I
37:09
Speaker 1: played more with Patrick. Patrick, Thales. No, very crazy, man.
37:12
Speaker 1: The base of Palmeiras is very strong. Impressive. Always, right?
37:16
Speaker 3: And you also took the phase of Andy.
37:19
Speaker 1: I played, I played at the base with him. But
37:21
Speaker 1: he's not different, right? Just a little. Just a little. Man,
37:24
Speaker 1: I looked at this guy with 13 years old, making
37:26
Speaker 1: the midfield goal, with a huge strength. I said....
37:31
Speaker 3: I believe in God the Father and that Estevam.
37:35
Speaker 1: Too, right? Brother, I'm glad I can say that, right? So,
37:37
Speaker 1: how crazy, no, he's going to play even more, but
37:39
Speaker 1: I want to know if you're a kid who, as
37:44
Speaker 1: I say, took the same steps, right, bro? That he,
37:47
Speaker 1: Palmeiras Academy, professional, went through the processes. What did Estevam, Hendrick,
37:52
Speaker 1: and even you, do you feel that there is something
37:54
Speaker 1: different in these kids, bro? They are an absurd, man.
37:59
Speaker 1: We hit this key a lot, right? They are young
38:02
Speaker 1: and I think we need to put these guys to play, man.
38:05
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into this subject.
38:07
Speaker 1: No, you don't need to. That's what I said, but
38:09
Speaker 1: I want to know what you saw of them as different,
38:12
Speaker 1: even as kids. One thing I always said about Hendrick. He,
38:16
Speaker 1: at 15 years old, the physique he had was already impressive.
38:20
Speaker 1: The physique, for me, was what caught my attention the most. But, man,
38:23
Speaker 1: he has balls, there's no way, man. He was already
38:26
Speaker 1: very strong, he was very fast, he was very explosive.
38:28
Speaker 1: No one could stop him. At 15 years old, he
38:31
Speaker 1: was playing with a 20-year-old kid, bro. In São Paulo,
38:32
Speaker 1: what he did was supernatural, bro. He took the 20-year-old
38:36
Speaker 1: kids and it looked like, you know, there was no
38:37
Speaker 1: one in front of him.
38:38
Speaker 3: Destroyed everything. Destroyed everyone, bro.
38:40
Speaker 1: He got to the final, he gave everything to the team, right?
38:43
Speaker 1: With Santos.
38:44
Speaker 3: Holy shit. He's crazy.
38:45
Speaker 1: At 15 years old, that's it, bro. Very crazy, right, bro?
38:47
Speaker 1: I think a lot about personality. At 15 years old,
38:49
Speaker 1: he played against 20, bro. And, you know, he was
38:51
Speaker 1: the best player in the tournament, bro. At 15 years old.
38:54
Speaker 1: And Estevão is also a ball, right? He was also Estevão,
38:57
Speaker 1: but now he's strong. He is, right? I saw that
38:59
Speaker 1: he has a square chin.
39:01
Speaker 3: He was Franzininho.
39:03
Speaker 1: In England, the guys are... Imogeni and Durateston. But it
39:08
Speaker 1: must be an aura.
39:10
Speaker 3: It must be a very crazy aura, these guys with you. Fortunately,
39:14
Speaker 3: there was no time of 6-7. Man, it was a
39:21
Speaker 3: lot of people, a lot of cool kids together.
39:23
Speaker 1: But it's a little bit of what... It's a little bit, no,
39:27
Speaker 1: total of what Kevin brought, right, bro? will give you
39:31
Speaker 1: a very beautiful fruit. Now there are clubs, without quoting clubs,
39:36
Speaker 1: you know that the base belongs to the businessmen. Then
39:40
Speaker 1: when it turns, it's just to make money, it's just
39:42
Speaker 1: to turn. And the guys say, my God, how does
39:43
Speaker 1: my team win everything at the base? But it doesn't
39:46
Speaker 1: reveal anyone. I remember we won two Paulistas, two Copas.
39:49
Speaker 3: Copa do Brasil, Brasileiro, Supercopa, everything.
39:51
Speaker 1: Everything, we won everything. The confidence was high there. We
39:54
Speaker 1: won at Corinthians' house. The Brazilian final. When are you
40:10
Speaker 1: going to England, man? Tell me, go.
40:12
Speaker 3: What a joke. No, very cool. How did the moment of.
40:17
Speaker 1: No, I have a question before, forgive me. I just
40:19
Speaker 1: wanted to make it funny. But there's a specific game
40:22
Speaker 1: there of your passage from Palmeiras, which I think the
40:25
Speaker 1: Palmeiras fans remember with sadness, that you were eliminated by
40:28
Speaker 1: Boca in 2023. And the question was, why are Kevin
40:33
Speaker 1: and Steve in the bank? And what I want... I
40:35
Speaker 1: don't want to get into controversy. Yeah, Wendrick and Kevin
40:38
Speaker 1: were in the bank. not Estevão, you looking at that game,
40:42
Speaker 1: you are a professional football player, you looked like this
40:45
Speaker 1: and said like this, it was possible for me to
40:47
Speaker 1: play a little more, because when you entered, you helped
40:49
Speaker 1: to take the penalties, but unfortunately it didn't work for you,
40:53
Speaker 1: but I want to know if you felt like this,
40:55
Speaker 1: we could have had a little more minutes, because maybe
40:59
Speaker 1: we would help more, what do you feel? Man, that game...
41:01
Speaker 1: Did it give you agony? What a game, what a game,
41:03
Speaker 1: it was awesome. It's a question of telling the story
41:11
Speaker 1: of the game. Playing bad Libertadores against Boca, of course.
41:15
Speaker 1: But it's hard to say, because it's not any game,
41:19
Speaker 1: it's a semi-final of Libertadores, a game back. And there's
41:22
Speaker 1: no way to say, I could have played more. I
41:24
Speaker 1: think that every game is a different strategy. Especially in Palmeiras,
41:30
Speaker 1: every game they did a totally different strategy. Because they
41:32
Speaker 1: needed to play, the other game they didn't even enter.
41:36
Speaker 1: And then, in this game, he thought that after... and
41:38
Speaker 1: realized that it wasn't working, then I think he was
41:40
Speaker 1: right to put it in the break. Because he didn't
41:42
Speaker 1: expect much and also, you know? Yeah, no, it's because...
41:45
Speaker 1: Now it's just me talking, I don't need to answer,
41:47
Speaker 1: but it's that I feel that sometimes the crowd has
41:50
Speaker 1: a great appeal, and then I see everyone saying the
41:54
Speaker 1: same thing, the crowd, the comments, everyone talking about the ball,
41:56
Speaker 1: and then I see only the coach doing the opposite.
41:59
Speaker 1: Obviously he has his reasons, you are young, you may
42:02
Speaker 1: have felt the game, but when you see that you
42:03
Speaker 1: get in, and they fly, and the crowd was saying, guys,
42:07
Speaker 1: they're going to fly. And you're like, damn, why? Yeah,
42:09
Speaker 1: but they're engineers too, right? Anyway. But I wanted to
42:13
Speaker 1: talk about that because it was something that I remember
42:16
Speaker 1: was striking. And you, would you hit that penalty? Bro,
42:21
Speaker 1: my legs were shaking in the Kings League. I'm not kidding.
42:24
Speaker 1: Your legs were shaking and you broke them, right?
42:26
Speaker 3: At first they were shaking, but then it was over.
42:28
Speaker 1: I swear to God, the guys were like, you're going
42:30
Speaker 1: to score a penalty against him. I was like, of
42:32
Speaker 1: course I'm going. Did you see the nerds in the bench?
42:33
Speaker 1: The guys oppressed me.
42:34
Speaker 3: What's that? Imagine the fans of Boca.
42:36
Speaker 1: You let yourself be oppressed. You know, bro?
42:38
Speaker 3: I had never lived that.
42:39
Speaker 1: I was oppressed by the guys. I was like, my God,
42:41
Speaker 1: the guys from CS, Free Fire... The games are oppressing me.
42:51
Speaker 1: And they oppressed me to the point that I missed
42:52
Speaker 1: the penalty, and then.
42:54
Speaker 3: But no, no, you kicked well.
42:57
Speaker 1: No, no. No, there's no way. Let's be honest. I thought,
43:01
Speaker 1: with all due respect to the world... I'm going to
43:03
Speaker 1: start talking here. With all due respect to the world,
43:05
Speaker 1: but I thought you had made a mistake, bro. Really?
43:06
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie, I'm serious. I think a
43:08
Speaker 1: lot of people must have thought.
43:09
Speaker 3: There were a lot of people who thought that.
43:11
Speaker 1: But I swear to God, I think the thing... The
43:13
Speaker 1: moment I saw the fireman come to me and say,
43:16
Speaker 1: was it serious? I said, it was. He said, do
43:19
Speaker 1: you need a stretcher? I said, I do, man. I
43:20
Speaker 1: wasn't able to stand up. Then I saw that the
43:23
Speaker 1: stretcher was coming, I said, it's not possible that I'm
43:25
Speaker 1: going to get out of the stretcher here, there's going
43:26
Speaker 1: to be a photo, a movie.
43:27
Speaker 3: I just knew because I know that your knee was bugged.
43:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
43:30
Speaker 3: You would have made a goal, man.
43:31
Speaker 1: You would have made a goal and made this whole scene,
43:33
Speaker 1: because then it would be big, man. So, but that's
43:34
Speaker 1: why I was pissed. Because when I saw that the
43:36
Speaker 1: goalkeeper still got it, I fell with a lot of
43:37
Speaker 1: pain looking like this, son of a bitch. So it
43:39
Speaker 1: was two pains, man. What a disgrace. I lost the goal,
43:41
Speaker 1: I'm still going to.
43:42
Speaker 3: Get out of the stretcher, man. That's it.
43:44
Speaker 1: Ugly scene.
43:44
Speaker 3: Ugly scene.
43:45
Speaker 1: Knee looking... It's horrible, bro. I don't want anyone to
43:50
Speaker 1: get injured. I got injured once, too. What did you
43:51
Speaker 1: get injured? Seriously, it was just once. I broke the
43:55
Speaker 1: fifth metatarsus of my foot. Man, this fifth metatarsus gets
43:58
Speaker 1: in the way. It's a lot of ability, right? What happened?
44:00
Speaker 3: Man, what happened was that I was practically alone.
44:03
Speaker 1: Wow. Were you tormented? Like, I dominated the back ball
44:07
Speaker 1: and the guy was marking me. And then the guy,
44:10
Speaker 1: marking me, gave me a touch of the letter and
44:14
Speaker 1: I tried to turn. Then I turned my foot and
44:16
Speaker 1: I felt it breaking. Then it was over.
44:18
Speaker 3: It hurts like hell. What a pain.
44:20
Speaker 1: I couldn't even take the boot off. Wow. Then I thought,
44:22
Speaker 1: I don't know, if it hurts or something, I'll come back.
44:24
Speaker 1: But when I went to step on the ground, you
44:26
Speaker 1: know when it gives that shock to the whole body? Wow,
44:30
Speaker 1: I laughed. Then it was over.
44:32
Speaker 3: Then I left. No, it must have been a sadness.
44:34
Speaker 3: Then I had surgery. Then it breaks like this, bro.
44:36
Speaker 1: Damn, was that at the base? No, it was now,
44:39
Speaker 1: here at the bottom. Ah, it was true. Lívia told
44:41
Speaker 1: me you were hurt, man.
44:42
Speaker 3: No, but then Palmeiras, I wanted to know how it was.
44:45
Speaker 3: You stayed there for four years.
44:47
Speaker 1: I got there with 17. I played 17, 18, 19,
44:48
Speaker 1: 20 at the base. Then, after the cup, I went
44:50
Speaker 1: to the professional. Then I stayed until... When I completed 21,
44:52
Speaker 1: I left. And how was the survey? Did other teams come?
44:56
Speaker 1: How did it go for you?
44:58
Speaker 3: There were some teams, but Palmeiras always refused.
45:01
Speaker 1: But I don't like to keep knowing things, you know?
45:03
Speaker 1: To not get stuck in your head? It's boring to
45:06
Speaker 1: keep knowing. Then, there were some teams that Palmeiras refused,
45:09
Speaker 1: and something appeared for me, and the guys sent me,
45:12
Speaker 1: but I... I never wanted to look.
45:17
Speaker 3: At it, because it's boring.
45:20
Speaker 1: Then I go there and make a bad game. The
45:21
Speaker 1: person already talks about it. Ah, you're thinking about leaving.
45:26
Speaker 3: I didn't even want to know about these things either.
45:29
Speaker 1: But didn't it give you a curiosity? No, man, I'm
45:30
Speaker 1: very calm with these things.
45:31
Speaker 3: Very calm, very. You knew that at some point there
45:33
Speaker 3: would be an interesting proposal.
45:35
Speaker 1: I'm very calm with these things. I was playing Free Fire.
45:38
Speaker 1: But what is it that doesn't make you dazzle? Because
45:42
Speaker 1: it's a dazzling thing, man. Playing professional football, stadium, still
45:46
Speaker 1: doing well, scoring goals. Man, what doesn't make me dazzle is...
45:50
Speaker 1: Having where I was born inside of me, man. I'm
45:53
Speaker 1: very calm with everything. Like, I have everything I have today,
45:56
Speaker 1: but for me I'm... Like, I'm still that boy, you know,
45:59
Speaker 1: from Vila Mara, that boy from Itaim. For me, I'm
46:01
Speaker 1: calm with these things. And how do you take care
46:04
Speaker 1: so you don't lose that?
46:05
Speaker 3: Because.
46:07
Speaker 1: You'll be in Europe more and more, and it's not
46:10
Speaker 1: just about you. It's your life. It's hard. When you
46:12
Speaker 1: have money, things change. But whenever I can, I'm there.
46:15
Speaker 1: I love being in the Pantanal. You know the Pantanal?
46:18
Speaker 1: My mom doesn't let me go there. But whenever I
46:21
Speaker 1: have a chance, I go there. I see the kids.
46:23
Speaker 1: I stay there. I liked your son, man. Of course.
46:27
Speaker 1: You have to give it a try.
46:30
Speaker 3: You have to give it a try.
46:34
Speaker 1: But the Pantanal Ball is too cool. No, calm down,
46:37
Speaker 1: let's not talk about the Pantanal Ball. I said the
46:39
Speaker 1: Pantanal Ball is cool, but the Ball is cool too.
46:41
Speaker 1: The Balliva is sending me a message, already cursing me. Brother-in-law,
46:45
Speaker 1: you go with us. Go with us. So, it's interesting
46:47
Speaker 1: to know.
46:48
Speaker 3: That you didn't want to know about the polls. Do
46:50
Speaker 3: you think that interferes with your football? I think that,
46:53
Speaker 3: besides interfering with football, it interferes that you also give
46:56
Speaker 3: the person the chance to say something. Yes.
47:04
Speaker 1: The most annoying thing is to see people talking about
47:06
Speaker 1: you in the soccer world.
47:07
Speaker 3: Yes. Without knowing.
47:09
Speaker 1: When people speak well or speak badly, it's bad for both,
47:12
Speaker 1: because then you get dazzled, you think you're doing very
47:14
Speaker 1: well and then you have to stop. Yes. And badly
47:16
Speaker 1: you get angry, you get badly with you. And then
47:17
Speaker 1: what happens? When someone speaks badly, wants to beat me
47:21
Speaker 1: to impact the team, I already put it there, I
47:25
Speaker 1: don't want to know this information. Brother, but it's hard
47:27
Speaker 1: to know, because it's what Mitch said, when I played
47:30
Speaker 1: Master League and I didn't receive the proposal from the
47:32
Speaker 1: team I wanted, I reset it. No, not that one.
47:36
Speaker 1: I want a Maier.
47:37
Speaker 3: Did something come up?
47:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was anxious. I like it. That's good, man.
47:41
Speaker 1: I think that's something you have to keep in mind
47:42
Speaker 1: when you worry about the ball. There must be a
47:44
Speaker 1: lot of qualified people around you to think about it,
47:48
Speaker 1: to help you. And I have a big foot. Very key. Cool, cool.
47:50
Speaker 1: But when did the proposal come that everyone said, wow...
47:52
Speaker 1: From Shakhtar. From Shakhtar, they were making a lot of proposals.
48:01
Speaker 1: Before that, I used to play for Copinha, but Palmeiras refused.
48:06
Speaker 1: Then I played for Copinha, and I became the best player,
48:10
Speaker 1: and then they increased it, and then they refused again.
48:12
Speaker 1: But then I started to play little for Palmeiras. I
48:14
Speaker 1: played one game or another, I was more on the bench,
48:16
Speaker 1: and so on. And then came the one from the
48:19
Speaker 1: other year, which was January of the other year. It
48:22
Speaker 1: was my birthday, I was there at the football court,
48:23
Speaker 1: and my father came to me and said this. The
48:25
Speaker 1: guys let you go and you went to Shakhtar. Like that?
48:28
Speaker 3: Fast.
48:28
Speaker 1: In the football court, he said, look, do you see
48:30
Speaker 1: this heat? It was my birthday. I was there, quiet.
48:33
Speaker 1: He said, he let you go to Shakhtar. I said, what?
48:35
Speaker 1: You go to Ukraine. Day 12. That was day 4.
48:37
Speaker 1: What is this? Less than a week. A week, man.
48:40
Speaker 1: Believe me. Everything was very fast.
48:42
Speaker 3: And what did you feel at the time?
48:44
Speaker 1: Fear? I don't know, everything. A mix of things. Fear, happiness, sadness.
48:49
Speaker 1: I wanted to cry. I went to Ukraine, out of nowhere.
48:53
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about Ukraine first. First I thought
48:55
Speaker 1: I would go to another country, live alone in another country.
48:59
Speaker 1: Cold as hell. After I remembered it was Ukraine. After
49:02
Speaker 1: it came to my mind, I'm going to Ukraine, bro. Man, Ukraine, man.
49:05
Speaker 1: How was your adaptation there? How is it to play
49:08
Speaker 1: the ball in the fucking cold? The worst wasn't the cold, bro.
49:10
Speaker 1: You know that. The worst wasn't the cold. It's being alone, right,
49:15
Speaker 1: The worst was the bombs. That's right. Ah, when you go,
49:19
Speaker 1: it was already like that? Like, when I arrived in Shakhtar,
49:22
Speaker 1: I introduced myself in Turkey, because it's pre-season. There they
49:26
Speaker 1: do pre-season in Turkey and in Slovenia. And then I
49:28
Speaker 1: introduced myself in Turkey, and from Turkey I went to Ukraine.
49:30
Speaker 1: And then it happens that to go there you can't
49:33
Speaker 1: by plane. Ah, so it was already broken. It was
49:37
Speaker 1: already broken. This war started in 2020, if I'm not mistaken.
49:40
Speaker 1: And we couldn't fly, so we took a plane to Poland.
49:44
Speaker 1: We went by train to Kiev.
49:46
Speaker 3: How long did it take?
49:48
Speaker 1: 12 hours by train. Okay, seriously, how was your head
49:52
Speaker 1: thinking about it? I'm here, trying my life, risking my life,
49:56
Speaker 1: but it's the opportunity of my life. No, in the
49:58
Speaker 1: first 4 months, I was in shock. But then too, bro.
50:03
Speaker 1: It's my life, you know? I'm living my life. So
50:07
Speaker 1: I don't have where to run.
50:08
Speaker 3: I'm going to live this. And how was the adaptation, bro?
50:11
Speaker 3: Like food, people, experiences, culture.
50:14
Speaker 1: Far away family, right bro? Bro, food is difficult because
50:17
Speaker 1: there the food is very different, bro. It's a lot,
50:19
Speaker 1: it's all different.
50:20
Speaker 3: What is a lunch there?
50:22
Speaker 1: Like, they really like the soup there, bro. It's a
50:24
Speaker 1: soup with, like... How can I explain? Like a cod inside. Man,
50:28
Speaker 1: I already got a bad cold. Like a cod inside.
50:30
Speaker 1: It's the best food there. Like, beans here and this
50:32
Speaker 1: food there. I got it.
50:33
Speaker 3: You liked it, at least.
50:34
Speaker 1: How? How? Every day was pasta.
50:37
Speaker 3: Every day, pasta.
50:38
Speaker 1: Then I tried to go to some restaurant at night,
50:41
Speaker 1: when I could, and then I ate some meat, some risotto.
50:44
Speaker 3: And the people there at that time were like... Is
50:46
Speaker 3: that it, bro?
50:47
Speaker 1: That's it, bro. What's the name? What's the name of this?
50:52
Speaker 1: Come on. I just put Ukrainian soup. Let me see
50:55
Speaker 1: the name.
50:56
Speaker 3: I forgot the name now.
50:58
Speaker 1: Ukrainian soup name. Where the fuck? Internet at my time
51:01
Speaker 1: was the coolest, bro. Borst.
51:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
51:04
Speaker 1: Borst.
51:05
Speaker 3: Borst. What other food did you have there that made
51:09
Speaker 3: you say, wow, it's better to eat pasta?
51:10
Speaker 1: All of them. With all due respect. But all of them.
51:13
Speaker 1: It wasn't possible. It was pasta every day. Because we
51:16
Speaker 1: were used to another seasoning, another thing. Every day it
51:18
Speaker 1: was pasta. Every day, every day, bro.
51:20
Speaker 3: There was nothing different to eat. And how was it
51:22
Speaker 3: in relation to people, like, they were all afraid, there
51:25
Speaker 3: was a siren. There?
51:26
Speaker 1: No one called, bro. Ukrainian, you know, when, like I said,
51:28
Speaker 1: the first four months I was afraid, but then, it's
51:30
Speaker 1: my life. So imagine for them. They've been doing this
51:32
Speaker 1: for years. It wasn't even normal. You were walking on
51:36
Speaker 1: the street, the street was full, full. It looked like
51:39
Speaker 1: you were walking here in Paulista, here in Braz. But
51:41
Speaker 1: you could hear bombs? Bombs? Yeah. What is this, man?
51:47
Speaker 1: There was a game that we stopped playing because there
51:51
Speaker 1: was a danger of an air attack, and we were
51:53
Speaker 1: going to the bunker. There was a game that I
51:56
Speaker 1: started playing... What's that, bro? There was a game that
51:58
Speaker 1: I started playing... The Bunker, bro. He started playing in
52:03
Speaker 1: August and we finished the game in November. Believe me,
52:06
Speaker 1: he played a time in August and a time in November.
52:09
Speaker 3: He plays with a siren and says, run to the bunker.
52:12
Speaker 1: He plays with a siren, it's a good danger.
52:15
Speaker 3: A danger of attack. Everyone goes to the bunker.
52:17
Speaker 1: How is a bunker? I was curious. Man, a bunker
52:21
Speaker 1: is like... You go down, you know? You go down
52:22
Speaker 1: a staircase. It's underground. You go down a staircase... And
52:25
Speaker 1: then it's there, where you can't hit the ball, you know?
52:29
Speaker 1: And there's everything, accommodation, bed, or not? It depends on
52:33
Speaker 1: the place.
52:33
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just a hole.
52:34
Speaker 1: It's just a hole to stay there. There's no chair
52:36
Speaker 1: or anything. It's in your corner. So you, with all
52:40
Speaker 1: the respect in the world, were just waiting for another
52:42
Speaker 1: proposal to touch your life, right? But to say that
52:46
Speaker 1: I don't miss it is a lie. Was this phase cool?
52:48
Speaker 1: You know the club that's in my heart? I got it.
52:52
Speaker 3: Very cool.
52:52
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. You created a bond. But why?
52:55
Speaker 1: What happened at the club? It's because I had a
52:58
Speaker 1: lot of dreams there. I played in the Champions League.
53:01
Speaker 1: I scored in the Champions League. I played against Bayern
53:03
Speaker 1: and scored against Bayern. Very cool. How many games did
53:05
Speaker 1: you play? Calm down, I scored. I was talking about
53:08
Speaker 1: the goal. Oh, you weren't playing my penalty? You were
53:12
Speaker 1: shaking for the gamers? Say it! They were sending it
53:15
Speaker 1: to me. I scored a goal and you didn't see it.
53:17
Speaker 3: How was it playing the Champions League?
53:19
Speaker 1: Man, there was a shaking. Are you crazy? There was
53:21
Speaker 1: a shaking.
53:22
Speaker 3: When you play the music. You're crazy.
53:24
Speaker 1: You know what was hard for me? In the first
53:27
Speaker 1: game we were going to play against Bologna, in Italy.
53:32
Speaker 1: We traveled and we did the training before the game.
53:37
Speaker 1: In the stadium, one day before. And then what usually happens? Finals, jokes,
53:40
Speaker 1: then it's good. Then we were making our jokes there, silly, there, high.
53:44
Speaker 1: And then there was a final. I kicked one, I
53:47
Speaker 1: kicked another on the third, I opened here the thing
53:50
Speaker 1: of the thigh. Wow, man. Believe me, man. One day
53:52
Speaker 1: before the game. Then I did the exam there and
53:54
Speaker 1: it was giving me to come back in a month.
53:57
Speaker 1: Then I didn't play the first game. Was it the second?
53:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
53:59
Speaker 1: Then I lost two, three games still.
54:04
Speaker 3: I should have been pissed off.
54:05
Speaker 1: I was sad. How long did you come back? I
54:07
Speaker 1: came back in two and a half weeks. What is that, Voverini? Man,
54:11
Speaker 1: I'm fast, huh? To recover, I'm good and new. Good
54:15
Speaker 1: and new, very key, man. Like Metatarsus, man. Metatarsus... How
54:19
Speaker 1: long did it take? It was three months. The guy
54:21
Speaker 1: told me that the season was over for me. Then
54:23
Speaker 1: I stayed two months. The guy still played a month.
54:26
Speaker 1: I played three games still. Man.
54:28
Speaker 3: And how is Ukrainian football? Fight, strength.
54:33
Speaker 1: Punch, slap, pull over there, pull over there. It's fucking violent.
54:38
Speaker 1: A lot of things. And if you're going to search
54:40
Speaker 1: and think you're against Dynamo, then you'll see what a
54:43
Speaker 1: punch is. It's not King's League, no. It's not, right?
54:45
Speaker 1: It's not, no. Does the judge let you go there?
54:48
Speaker 1: Not even there. Not even there. Not even there. Man,
54:50
Speaker 1: I think it's the culture there. No, what about VAR?
54:52
Speaker 1: I got beaten. When I got there, I got beaten
54:55
Speaker 1: with force.
54:55
Speaker 3: But you also learned to hit.
54:56
Speaker 1: I don't know how to hit, man. I don't know.
54:59
Speaker 3: You just know how to run.
55:00
Speaker 1: Just.
55:01
Speaker 3: But the guys were really bad.
55:02
Speaker 1: There's a picture from the game against Dynamo. I was
55:07
Speaker 1: in the middle and they pulled my head. I was
55:08
Speaker 1: like this, hitting the wall. Like in school, hitting the wall.
55:11
Speaker 1: My mom and dad went to watch it. Was it
55:14
Speaker 1: this one? Lalo Crana. I'm from Itaipaulista, bro. Where are
55:18
Speaker 1: the guys?
55:18
Speaker 3: But there's a certain quality there, differentiated. Or is it
55:22
Speaker 3: more pulled?
55:23
Speaker 1: There is. But there, this classic is like Derby here.
55:26
Speaker 1: Which is beating. It's like there, bro. But there it's
55:28
Speaker 1: even more. And the crowd is crazy? Yeah, everyone in
55:32
Speaker 1: the cold is without a shirt. It's crazy, it's cool. Man,
55:36
Speaker 1: these guys are really crazy. Everyone we talked to who
55:38
Speaker 1: played in Russia, Ukraine, in these very cold places, they
55:42
Speaker 1: say that the most difficult thing is the touch on
55:45
Speaker 1: the ball, that you don't feel the ball.
55:47
Speaker 3: On your foot.
55:47
Speaker 1: Is it really serious? I had a game that I played,
55:50
Speaker 1: minus 16. I couldn't do anything, it looked like I
55:52
Speaker 1: was running, at that moment I held myself, my foot
55:55
Speaker 1: was burning, I went to touch the ball, you know,
55:58
Speaker 1: to give a slap on the ball, I missed the control,
56:00
Speaker 1: I missed the pass, Then I ran and it looked
56:02
Speaker 1: like I was slow. I thought, my God, what is this?
56:04
Speaker 1: My mouth bursted.
56:05
Speaker 3: The breathing must be very bad.
56:06
Speaker 1: Horrible, everything is bad.
56:08
Speaker 3: Less than 16.
56:09
Speaker 1: Everything full of snow, then the game stopped and the
56:12
Speaker 1: snow cleared.
56:12
Speaker 3: Bad. There was no time when there was only there. Now,
56:16
Speaker 3: now is the summer there.
56:18
Speaker 1: Now that there is no game. Now that I'm in
56:21
Speaker 1: the cold here, there is the summer there. Then I
56:23
Speaker 1: go back to the cold again from the side of
56:24
Speaker 1: England later. Man, England is a nice place.
56:29
Speaker 3: But it's gray.
56:31
Speaker 1: It's a sad São Paulo.
56:32
Speaker 3: An old São Paulo.
56:34
Speaker 1: Wow, what a surgical word. What is that?
56:39
Speaker 3: But how many seasons did you stay in Ukraine?
56:41
Speaker 1: In Shakhtar? I stayed there for a year and a half.
56:44
Speaker 1: Just a little.
56:44
Speaker 3: I stayed there for a year and a half.
56:46
Speaker 1: But you made a good mess there. I was great there.
56:50
Speaker 1: And the Brazilian there is very valued, right? There are
56:53
Speaker 1: 12 Brazilians, I think, on the team. 12. So you
56:56
Speaker 1: felt like you were in Brazil. That's what I'm talking about.
56:59
Speaker 1: It was very good. Then the training ended, everyone went
57:02
Speaker 1: to the pool. Because there, where we stayed, there was
57:05
Speaker 1: a heated pool there in the resort. It was where
57:07
Speaker 1: I took Lívia. There was a heated pool, everyone was there.
57:11
Speaker 1: We were there enjoying, putting a box of sun. If
57:14
Speaker 1: you know each other, were you in Ukraine? Yes, but
57:16
Speaker 1: I lied to her. Where were you? I'm here in Turkey, right?
57:22
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it right away, it's going
57:23
Speaker 1: to scare you. Yes. When I talked to her for
57:25
Speaker 1: the first time, I told her I was in Poland.
57:27
Speaker 3: But I know you went after her. It was kind.
57:30
Speaker 1: Of like that. She followed me. She saw, right? She
57:34
Speaker 1: followed you out of nowhere. I remember until today. She
57:38
Speaker 1: saw the chocolate. I remember until today, I was having lunch.
57:41
Speaker 1: It was me and Vini, Tobias, having lunch. And I
57:45
Speaker 1: was there, like, I don't want anything, messing with my Instagram.
57:47
Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, I see her there. I called Rafaelle.
57:50
Speaker 1: I called Rafaelle. Then two minutes passed. I sent a
57:53
Speaker 1: message to my mom and my brother. Kevin, Ariba is
57:56
Speaker 1: following you. Wow, but what is this? My mom was
57:58
Speaker 1: following her for a long time. She was already a
58:01
Speaker 1: fan of Norinha.
58:02
Speaker 3: So it was already approved before anything.
58:04
Speaker 1: Then what happens? Imagine, you're at your house. Kevin, Ariba
58:08
Speaker 1: and Rafaelle are following you.
58:10
Speaker 3: My mom giving a greeting.
58:12
Speaker 1: Ah, but Bobu. Then she followed me, man. She followed
58:15
Speaker 1: me in the afternoon. At night I sent a message. No,
58:18
Speaker 1: she did, she followed me.
58:19
Speaker 3: What did you send? A little hand, a little heart?
58:22
Speaker 1: So, that's where the other lie is, too, I think.
58:24
Speaker 3: Why?
58:24
Speaker 1: She said the perfume thing, right? She took her brother's perfume.
58:27
Speaker 1: What do you mean, perfume thing? She records everything, right?
58:29
Speaker 1: If she sees here, there on the floor, she'll record, wow,
58:33
Speaker 1: look at this floor, different. Record, bro. And then she
58:35
Speaker 1: took her brother's perfume and said like this, ah, I
58:38
Speaker 1: don't know what there, this perfume here is very good,
58:42
Speaker 1: does this perfume have any point? I said, so it
58:43
Speaker 1: already has a point. Responds right away, it already has
58:45
Speaker 1: a point.
58:46
Speaker 3: You took your perfume and sent it to her.
58:48
Speaker 1: But I don't have this perfume. Was she going to ask?
58:51
Speaker 1: Was she going to say, send the picture? No, she
58:53
Speaker 1: would say, what you were going to say, smell it.
58:55
Speaker 1: She said, I liked it. That's it, she opened it.
58:58
Speaker 1: It was bad.
58:59
Speaker 3: You opened that same smile there, right?
59:01
Speaker 1: It was good, he didn't even have a perfume, it
59:03
Speaker 1: was good.
59:03
Speaker 3: And if she said, send, where, send the picture there?
59:05
Speaker 3: I was going to get someone's. she started talking she
59:01
Speaker 3: asked where you.
59:01
Speaker 1: Live I said, I'm from São Paulo, but now I'm
59:22
Speaker 1: in Poland.
59:23
Speaker 3: What about visiting Poland?
59:27
Speaker 1: We were talking for a long time. Then we met
59:30
Speaker 1: here for the first time. Here in São Paulo. When
59:33
Speaker 1: I was on vacation. And then she was crazy. She
59:36
Speaker 1: said she wanted to go to Ukraine. I said, man,
59:38
Speaker 1: first I'm going to play in Poland, and from Poland
59:41
Speaker 1: you go to Ukraine. But there's another cool story, man.
59:50
Speaker 1: I saw that she did this car tour. Look what happens.
59:54
Speaker 3: We were playing in Shakhtar.
59:56
Speaker 1: We were playing qualifiers for Europa League. We won the
1:00:00
Speaker 1: first game. We won the first game 6-0. And then
1:00:03
Speaker 1: the second game was against Besiktas. Then I went to
1:00:08
Speaker 1: play against Besiktas. Then I won 4-2. I scored two goals.
1:00:11
Speaker 1: And then I went to play another game. Then she
1:00:14
Speaker 1: traveled to Poland to watch. She arrived there one day earlier.
1:00:20
Speaker 1: And then they played on Saturday. Then I trained Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
1:00:23
Speaker 1: On Thursday, I hurt my posterior. Did you hurt it?
1:00:28
Speaker 1: I hurt it. And worse, it was serious. I hurt
1:00:31
Speaker 1: my posterior. Then I went there, I did the exam,
1:00:35
Speaker 1: then it was grade 2. But then I was in
1:00:36
Speaker 1: the gym, I was treating, I told the guys like this, no,
1:00:39
Speaker 1: I can't play, I'm good. After the game, I go
1:00:41
Speaker 1: there and stay in the DM, I'm good. But what happens?
1:00:43
Speaker 1: I wasn't good. I just wanted to play because she
1:00:45
Speaker 1: was coming to see.
1:00:46
Speaker 3: I got it.
1:00:46
Speaker 1: It's love. I wanted to do something there to get stronger.
1:00:50
Speaker 1: You know? To her. And then... Because, damn, bad trip, man.
1:00:53
Speaker 1: And she arrived and said, man, I got hurt. What
1:00:54
Speaker 1: was she going to say to her? Man, I got hurt.
1:00:55
Speaker 1: Imagine if I said that to her. She left here
1:00:57
Speaker 1: to go to Poland, to go to Ukraine and say
1:00:58
Speaker 1: that I wasn't going to play. Just to hear the
1:01:00
Speaker 1: sound of the bomb. Then I went. Then I went
1:01:02
Speaker 1: and played like that. Then I told the guy that
1:01:04
Speaker 1: I could handle it. Then it's good. I went to
1:01:06
Speaker 1: the game. I was warming up, just walking, when I
1:01:08
Speaker 1: was feeling pain. Then, you know when you kind of
1:01:10
Speaker 1: turn off and you forget that you're feeling pain? I
1:01:13
Speaker 1: gave a sprint. With five minutes in the first half,
1:01:15
Speaker 1: I went to give a sprint, man. It opened. It opened.
1:01:23
Speaker 2: Wow.
1:01:23
Speaker 1: But then I held it. Then, with 5, I got hurt.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: With 12, I scored. Holy shit, man. You were in
1:01:29
Speaker 1: the mood to score. Forget it. Forget it. When a
1:01:32
Speaker 1: woman changes a man... Yeah, right? You know? Hey, Lívia.
1:01:36
Speaker 3: It's over.
1:01:36
Speaker 1: You have to get married. I want to be with him.
1:01:39
Speaker 1: But that day, did you tell her that you were hurt? No.
1:01:41
Speaker 3: I'm fucked. Is everything okay?
1:01:43
Speaker 1: No. I was pulling my leg, but I told the
1:01:48
Speaker 1: coach that I was tired. I got hurt with 12.
1:01:50
Speaker 1: I played until the end of the first half. You
1:01:53
Speaker 1: got hurt with 5 and scored with 12. I got
1:01:56
Speaker 1: hurt with 5 and scored with 12. I finished the
1:01:58
Speaker 1: first half and couldn't take it anymore. I came back
1:02:01
Speaker 1: in 5 minutes and asked to leave. But no one
1:02:02
Speaker 1: knew about that injury. But you didn't tell them? So, Amor,
1:02:12
Speaker 1: here in our first meeting, I played injured, I made
1:02:15
Speaker 1: a lot of effort, right? No, and then I said
1:02:18
Speaker 1: to her, I said, bro, it's the following, I can't
1:02:19
Speaker 1: stand to walk, I'm messed up, I opened the posterior,
1:02:24
Speaker 1: I was already injured, but I was stubborn, because she
1:02:26
Speaker 1: was going to curse me.
1:02:26
Speaker 3: Yes.
1:02:26
Speaker 1: I was stubborn, but I scored, it was worth it,
1:02:29
Speaker 1: what matters is that. But then I lost the other games.
1:02:32
Speaker 1: How many games were left? Then there were Ukrainian games
1:02:35
Speaker 1: that I didn't play, there were two that I didn't play,
1:02:37
Speaker 1: there were the two that were from Europa League that
1:02:39
Speaker 1: I didn't play, which was another, I think... It was
1:02:42
Speaker 1: the Panathinaikos, I think. I didn't play both of them,
1:02:45
Speaker 1: so we lost the penalties. Then, when you lose in
1:02:47
Speaker 1: the Europa League, you go to the conference. I came
1:02:51
Speaker 1: back one day before the conference game. Then, we were 1-1.
1:02:55
Speaker 1: I played the second game, which was my last. Did
1:02:59
Speaker 1: you already know it was your last game? Man, so...
1:03:02
Speaker 1: It could be my last and it could not be.
1:03:03
Speaker 1: But you play with a sadness in your heart. It
1:03:06
Speaker 1: was a war to get out of there.
1:03:08
Speaker 3: What kind of war? They didn't want to let me go.
1:03:12
Speaker 1: No, I even forgot about this war. They didn't want
1:03:15
Speaker 1: to let me go, you know? So, like, because... Alleging what?
1:03:19
Speaker 1: There was me and there was another one in the
1:03:22
Speaker 1: team that was considered the best known in the team.
1:03:24
Speaker 1: Then the other one went to Benfica, which is Suda,
1:03:29
Speaker 1: and I was about to go to Fula. But what happens?
1:03:32
Speaker 1: The guy won, he got the one from Benfica and
1:03:34
Speaker 1: didn't want to let me go anymore. Then I ran
1:03:37
Speaker 1: away from there. How do you fuck with a country
1:03:42
Speaker 1: that is at war?
1:03:44
Speaker 3: I imagine that there were also several other proposals.
1:03:47
Speaker 1: There was, there was. There was the Sporting too, which
1:03:49
Speaker 1: I remember, but the others I don't remember much, I
1:03:51
Speaker 1: just copied these two. Then I made the last goal,
1:03:55
Speaker 1: I played the last game and we went back to Ukraine.
1:03:57
Speaker 1: From Ukraine, what happens? There was going to be training,
1:04:03
Speaker 1: the game was on the weekend and I changed and
1:04:05
Speaker 1: went away. With the planned plan. I didn't even have...
1:04:09
Speaker 1: Do you know that visa from London? To go to London?
1:04:12
Speaker 1: I didn't have it. And then? I was waiting at
1:04:15
Speaker 1: the airport waiting to be released, and the team called
1:04:17
Speaker 1: me afterwards. The team called you to the airport?
1:04:20
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:04:20
Speaker 1: It was this boy there.
1:04:21
Speaker 3: Wow, release the boy. To sign me, I signed.
1:04:23
Speaker 1: In the last second, in the last minute, in the
1:04:25
Speaker 1: thousandth second to close the window. But let's go, Kevin.
1:04:28
Speaker 1: Could this have gone wrong, brother? It could. But an
1:04:30
Speaker 1: hour was wrong. Not an hour, a minute.
1:04:37
Speaker 3: A thousandth.
1:04:39
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man.
1:04:40
Speaker 3: Confidence, man. Confidence that it was going to work out.
1:04:43
Speaker 1: Ah, Maimítico, I'm going to tell you, man. Confidence.
1:04:46
Speaker 3: Confidence.
1:04:46
Speaker 1: Confidence locked. Naifariu mesmo, viado. Você não ia fugir, não?
1:04:52
Speaker 3: Com certeza. Tá louco, mano.
1:04:53
Speaker 1: Eu acho que se eu chegar.
1:04:55
Speaker 3: Sabendo que ia ter um time muito foda, eu me
1:04:56
Speaker 3: querendo também, pô.
1:04:58
Speaker 1: Ah, mano, só de eu estar trocando de país pra
1:05:00
Speaker 1: estar num lugar mais sossegado.
1:05:01
Speaker 3: Acho que eu já ia. Mas antes da gente falar
1:05:03
Speaker 3: do Fulham, você... Did you get in danger there.
1:05:08
Speaker 1: Let's say? Man, every night, if we were in Kiev,
1:05:12
Speaker 1: Kiev is the capital, then the guys would attack more there.
1:05:15
Speaker 1: But there was air defense too, there weren't so many
1:05:18
Speaker 1: missiles in the way it showed. But every night there
1:05:21
Speaker 1: was this danger, bro. Every night, it was 8 o'clock,
1:05:23
Speaker 1: it was siren. Then there was a time when I
1:05:25
Speaker 1: was there and I saw.
1:05:26
Speaker 3: What is this, bro? What a mess, man.
1:05:28
Speaker 1: Then there was a time when I was there and
1:05:31
Speaker 1: I saw... Then we... When we went to get in
1:05:33
Speaker 1: the car, I took the seat of the car to
1:05:34
Speaker 1: open it, There was a bomb sound. So I opened
1:05:37
Speaker 1: the door, but it wasn't open yet. When we opened
1:05:40
Speaker 1: the door, another bomb broke the windows of the car.
1:05:43
Speaker 1: So we ran to the bunker.
1:05:45
Speaker 3: Wow, but close to breaking the car in front. Close,
1:05:49
Speaker 3: I think three streets up.
1:05:50
Speaker 1: How much did your parents know about what you were
1:05:52
Speaker 1: going through? Obviously, it was a worldwide news. Now! Now!
1:05:55
Speaker 3: I swear to God, they were both like this. His
1:06:02
Speaker 3: mom is white. I imagine it was, I don't know.
1:06:06
Speaker 1: Distant.
1:06:07
Speaker 3: The sound of bombs is very distant. Dad is normal.
1:06:09
Speaker 1: Dad will understand. Because it's soccer. But mom won't understand, man.
1:06:13
Speaker 1: So I had to hide these things from her.
1:06:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine, man. You're going to keep saying that the bomb.
1:06:18
Speaker 1: Is falling for mom. I went out of the car,
1:06:20
Speaker 1: two bombs fell. I wanted to give up. You can't, man.
1:06:22
Speaker 1: You can't really. Then, until the end of the Ukrainian Cup.
1:06:25
Speaker 1: Us against Dynamo. The game there in Kiev. Who appears
1:06:28
Speaker 1: there out of nowhere?
1:06:29
Speaker 3: Them. And then?
1:06:32
Speaker 1: And the fear that I had. Did something happen? You
1:06:34
Speaker 1: didn't even concentrate on the game, you kept thinking about
1:06:36
Speaker 1: it at the time. They tried to surprise me, but
1:06:39
Speaker 1: I already knew. They got there at the time of
1:06:43
Speaker 1: the game, and then I told them, I said.
1:06:45
Speaker 3: Man, you guys are crazy. But then you kind of
1:06:47
Speaker 3: hid the game from them, you said, no.
1:06:49
Speaker 1: It's not that much, no. I hid a lot of things,
1:06:51
Speaker 1: like I told him that it was smooth, but I
1:06:53
Speaker 1: also said some things that happened. But not everything, right?
1:06:57
Speaker 3: I would do the same.
1:06:58
Speaker 1: Mom, you can't. No, you did the same.
1:07:00
Speaker 3: I did the same. So, is that right? There was
1:07:02
Speaker 3: no bomb, but I said that everything was fine. Sleeping
1:07:04
Speaker 3: with the rat. Yeah, so, but what madness is that, man?
1:07:08
Speaker 1: There was a time when I was talking to Lívia,
1:07:10
Speaker 1: in the bunker. Smooth. The internet had it too, right? No,
1:07:15
Speaker 1: it's smooth. When we got a good hotel, we stayed
1:07:16
Speaker 1: in the bunker, with a bed there in the bunker,
1:07:18
Speaker 1: so it was smooth. I slept there in the bunker. God,
1:07:20
Speaker 1: the free guard, man.
1:07:22
Speaker 3: Man, but I was surprised to hear you say that
1:07:25
Speaker 3: you could do things close up.
1:07:26
Speaker 1: It was close up. There was a time when I
1:07:27
Speaker 1: went out to train, and everyone lived in an apartment condominium.
1:07:32
Speaker 1: In the Olympic. Yes. And then there was a building here,
1:07:36
Speaker 1: a building here, another here, and the bomb fell behind
1:07:38
Speaker 1: the building. You could see through the window the damage it.
1:07:42
Speaker 3: Did on the floor. My God, man, that's really crazy.
1:07:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a young myth. Everyone wants to win in life, right?
1:07:48
Speaker 1: The thing is crazy. You have to take advantage of
1:07:50
Speaker 1: the opportunities. Very crazy, brother. Very crazy this story, but
1:07:53
Speaker 1: it's good that... It's good that everything worked out, but
1:07:55
Speaker 1: I want to know... Pacheco... Look there, your parents worried there. Yeah,
1:08:00
Speaker 1: that's it, he saw it. That's it, he saw it.
1:08:01
Speaker 1: I sent him a video. God of the book, brother.
1:08:03
Speaker 1: How was it for you, then, the adaptation now of England,
1:08:06
Speaker 1: to get to the most competitive league in the world?
1:08:09
Speaker 1: How was it for you, the football itself, because everyone
1:08:11
Speaker 1: who goes to the Premier League says, man, there's a touch,
1:08:14
Speaker 1: it looks like a kick. Yes, that's it. How was
1:08:16
Speaker 1: it for you to adapt there? It's difficult. As much as, like,
1:08:19
Speaker 1: it's very easy for the fans, I don't know, the
1:08:24
Speaker 1: media to say, A lot of players played in Europe
1:08:28
Speaker 1: and came back. But no one knows how difficult it is.
1:08:31
Speaker 1: It seems like you change completely. Sometimes you forget how
1:08:34
Speaker 1: to play. Really? Very difficult.
1:08:36
Speaker 3: What is difficult?
1:08:39
Speaker 1: Let's say you're playing at VARSA and you're going to
1:08:40
Speaker 1: play a professional match. It seems like that. Let's say
1:08:44
Speaker 1: we're at the base and the ball is coming to you.
1:08:46
Speaker 1: All the time the ball will come strong with someone
1:08:49
Speaker 1: on your back and it's just troglodytes. Just a giant guy.
1:08:54
Speaker 1: And they hit, right? There's no space, right? There's no way.
1:08:56
Speaker 3: You had to change your football, let's say.
1:08:59
Speaker 1: So.
1:08:59
Speaker 3: Change, no, but adapt.
1:09:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to adapt a lot. That's why I
1:09:02
Speaker 1: gained more mass too, because of that, to sustain more. Because, man,
1:09:04
Speaker 1: there was a game where the guy touched the enemy
1:09:06
Speaker 1: and I was there, on the other side of the lambrado, falling.
1:09:08
Speaker 3: Man, what a two-way.
1:09:09
Speaker 1: This guy there is a lot of strength, right, man?
1:09:11
Speaker 1: And it's a very fast game, the mythical. But you're
1:09:14
Speaker 1: laying down, brother. Man, I'm still on vacation now, right?
1:09:17
Speaker 1: Now I'm laying down here, in the play-ball fields.
1:09:19
Speaker 3: Hahaha. But how was the adaptation? What did you think
1:09:22
Speaker 3: was different in England? Do you know.
1:09:26
Speaker 1: The Champions League? Every game there is the Champions League.
1:09:30
Speaker 1: There's no easy game. On the weekend you get Chelsea,
1:09:32
Speaker 1: on the middle of the week you get Manchester. Wow.
1:09:35
Speaker 1: What I think is really cool about the Premier League
1:09:37
Speaker 1: is that... Every game is a great game, man. It's
1:09:39
Speaker 1: a very aesthetic football, Mítico. I think the grass, the color,
1:09:42
Speaker 1: the signs... Every game is a show. That's it. The uniforms,
1:09:46
Speaker 1: the colors... red with white blue and so on, it's
1:09:50
Speaker 1: a video game, the first league is perfect football and
1:09:53
Speaker 1: you watch it when you go to watch it, it's
1:09:55
Speaker 1: very beautiful, it's very beautiful because it has those things
1:09:58
Speaker 1: of fire, then there are the songs before all the
1:10:01
Speaker 1: games they put the music there for everyone singing and
1:10:05
Speaker 1: then it stops and starts fire, it's very beautiful, it's
1:10:07
Speaker 1: a show, it's a preparation, it's a separate show, you
1:10:09
Speaker 1: who are players, Do you feel contemplated by this party?
1:10:14
Speaker 1: Or is it something that doesn't even come to you?
1:10:16
Speaker 1: Or is it something that you look at and say, damn,
1:10:17
Speaker 1: it gives a moral, I feel like a... Like a avenger,
1:10:20
Speaker 1: you know? I keep singing together, dancing. It's a good
1:10:22
Speaker 1: way to stay good. Like, everyone has their own way
1:10:25
Speaker 1: of concentrating, you know? There are people who put their
1:10:28
Speaker 1: headphones on and it looks like that face of Marrudão.
1:10:30
Speaker 1: In the locker room, you know? I already put it
1:10:32
Speaker 1: in the box, I already put my song.
1:10:34
Speaker 3: What do you put to play?
1:10:35
Speaker 1: Ah, man, those... Heating, Vintém' s Ballet. The guys must have
1:10:40
Speaker 1: no idea. You have to leave the shoulder loose, right?
1:10:42
Speaker 1: Because if you dribble the guys, you have to leave
1:10:47
Speaker 1: it loose.
1:10:47
Speaker 3: And there's BR there?
1:10:48
Speaker 1: There's only me and one more. There's only me and
1:10:50
Speaker 1: one more. The guy who was from Flamengo's base? Yes.
1:10:53
Speaker 1: I played with him at Desportivo, you know? Really? He
1:10:56
Speaker 1: was from Desportivo and left for Flamengo. Who else of
1:10:59
Speaker 1: the people you met in the base categories, in these clubs,
1:11:03
Speaker 1: while you were younger? From Desportivo. There's Maurício now, who's
1:11:06
Speaker 1: in Paraguay playing for the World Cup. I used to
1:11:08
Speaker 1: play with Rodrigo in the same division, 2001. I think
1:11:10
Speaker 1: it was the same team that became Desportivo. Then there
1:11:17
Speaker 1: are other guys that are playing in Portugal. Now Pedro Lima,
1:11:23
Speaker 1: who I told you is in Sport. From Portugal. Bro,
1:11:27
Speaker 1: how is the club, what do you feel, the structure,
1:11:32
Speaker 1: the fans, the career plan for you there? What is
1:11:35
Speaker 1: your moment? How do you see yourself inside the team?
1:11:37
Speaker 1: Because I see that you are a very fundamental piece
1:11:40
Speaker 1: for the coach, for the team, for the club. Man,
1:11:43
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, because the game there is always
1:11:46
Speaker 1: very difficult. And then let's suppose, there's a game we're
1:11:48
Speaker 1: going to play, that we go up and there's a
1:11:50
Speaker 1: game we're going to have to wait. And then, one
1:11:52
Speaker 1: thing matches my game, another thing doesn't. Got it. You know?
1:11:58
Speaker 1: So there will be games... So, like, that's why in
1:11:59
Speaker 1: the Premier League there's a lot of that. One game plays,
1:12:02
Speaker 1: another game doesn't play, another game plays. So it's very
1:12:04
Speaker 1: difficult to nail it and say, like, you're going to
1:12:07
Speaker 1: play all the games. It's obvious that there are exceptions
1:12:09
Speaker 1: and exceptions. But doesn't it give a feeling of... Everyone
1:12:13
Speaker 1: is important? The entire cast has to train?
1:12:14
Speaker 3: Everyone.
1:12:15
Speaker 1: It's not that you're the attacker, you're less... The side
1:12:17
Speaker 1: isn't important. The problem is that, out of nowhere, like,
1:12:19
Speaker 1: you hurt one, it's a lot of games, man. Then
1:12:21
Speaker 1: the guy goes there and plays 10 games without realizing, like...
1:12:25
Speaker 1: You know? Fast. Like... In December and January? No way.
1:12:29
Speaker 1: We played on the 9th, 11th, 15th, 17th, 22nd, 26th,
1:12:30
Speaker 1: 1st and 4th. And on the 7th and 10th of January.
1:12:34
Speaker 1: Holy shit. I trained one day and played on the other.
1:12:40
Speaker 1: But people say that in Europe the calendar... They keep
1:12:44
Speaker 1: talking about the Brazilian calendar here. Man, I don't know
1:12:46
Speaker 1: what happens there either. It doesn't stop there, but there's
1:12:50
Speaker 1: a lot of games while there's less games than in Brazil.
1:12:57
Speaker 3: What about the structure of the team? How does it work?
1:13:01
Speaker 3: It's great, but Shakhtar.
1:13:02
Speaker 1: Didn't have this structure because Shakhtar's CT was in Donetsk,
1:13:06
Speaker 1: so they couldn't have it anymore. So they made one
1:13:10
Speaker 1: in Kiev. And then, it's great because I wasn't used
1:13:12
Speaker 1: to it because of Shakhtar. And then you get back
1:13:21
Speaker 1: to it. It's very good, bro. You get there, stay calm,
1:13:23
Speaker 1: have your... A routine, right? Your corner in the locker room.
1:13:26
Speaker 1: You being able to have your physical well. Get there,
1:13:29
Speaker 1: have your coffee, have a good lunch. So, bro.
1:13:32
Speaker 3: In relation to training, is it heavier? It depends a
1:13:34
Speaker 3: lot on the day.
1:13:35
Speaker 1: Heavy training is when we go back on vacation. Like,
1:13:38
Speaker 1: we played one day, took a vacation on the other.
1:13:41
Speaker 1: And then the.
1:13:41
Speaker 3: Training, my God.
1:13:43
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:13:43
Speaker 3: Academy?
1:13:44
Speaker 1: Everything. Academy before and after. Tell us how is a
1:13:49
Speaker 1: full day of a club. What time do you wake up,
1:13:52
Speaker 1: what do you train, what do you do? Because I
1:13:54
Speaker 1: want to know exactly what you do, because people say
1:13:57
Speaker 1: it must be easy. Every day, every day, the presentation
1:14:00
Speaker 1: is every day at 9.30.
1:14:01
Speaker 3: Right.
1:14:01
Speaker 1: But there are buts and buts that you can introduce
1:14:03
Speaker 1: yourself before, you, I don't know, mark with the physio
1:14:06
Speaker 1: that I'm going to introduce myself at 8.30 to do
1:14:09
Speaker 1: something that I'm feeling pain. And there's also the idea
1:14:14
Speaker 1: of showing a professionalism, like, okay, it's 9.30, but if
1:14:17
Speaker 1: it's 8.30, 9, the guy will look at you differently, right? Then,
1:14:19
Speaker 1: let's suppose, it's 9 o'clock, you do physio until 10. Then,
1:14:23
Speaker 1: after 10, you drink your coffee. 10 until 10.30. 10.30
1:14:25
Speaker 1: you go to the gym. Then, 10.30 until, I don't know, 11.10,
1:14:28
Speaker 1: you stay in the gym. Then, from the gym, you
1:14:30
Speaker 1: go to the field. In the field, usually... In the gym,
1:14:33
Speaker 1: what do you train a lot, bro? A lot of legs?
1:14:35
Speaker 1: Before training, it's more mobility, you know?
1:14:37
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:14:37
Speaker 1: Like, you do things to.
1:14:42
Speaker 1: Activate your body, you know? Velocity... Jump... Yeah, those things. Like,
1:14:49
Speaker 1: who had a recent injury... Work on that. And then,
1:14:52
Speaker 1: after the training, it usually lasts until about 11.30, until
1:14:56
Speaker 1: about 1.30, 2 hours. You're already tired, right? Then you're
1:14:58
Speaker 1: already dead. Then you have to go back to the gym,
1:15:01
Speaker 1: you can do strength, superior.
1:15:02
Speaker 3: And then you get released at what time?
1:15:05
Speaker 1: Usually after about 4.30. Okay, but also... It's every day,
1:15:09
Speaker 1: every afternoon. Then the most peaceful day is usually the
1:15:15
Speaker 1: pre-game day, because we do all this before the game,
1:15:19
Speaker 1: we do gym, physio and such, but on the field
1:15:22
Speaker 1: itself it's little, we just do more ball stopped and
1:15:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, silly. What do you eat before a
1:15:30
Speaker 1: football game? Man, I always eat pasta, but it depends
1:15:32
Speaker 1: on the game, if the game is earlier, then I
1:15:34
Speaker 1: eat omelette, so I don't get so heavy. Okay, but
1:15:37
Speaker 1: normally it's a little pasta, an omelette and a juice
1:15:39
Speaker 1: and that's it?
1:15:40
Speaker 2: Yes.
1:15:40
Speaker 1: You can't overdo it, because... And then the belly gets like...
1:15:43
Speaker 1: It's like eating a feijoada. I got it, because this
1:15:45
Speaker 1: must have a lot of care, right? Like, nutritional, like, oh,
1:15:48
Speaker 1: it's just this here, bro. No, and when you get
1:15:49
Speaker 1: there too, each one has their own... Like a pill
1:15:52
Speaker 1: like this, for each one to get their own capsule
1:15:54
Speaker 1: to take every day. Manipulated? Every day. Each one has
1:15:57
Speaker 1: a different bug, like vitamin B12, calcium, iron, every day.
1:16:00
Speaker 1: That's awesome, bro.
1:16:00
Speaker 3: What a fucking structure, bro. You know? Preparing some heroes
1:16:05
Speaker 3: for the war.
1:16:06
Speaker 1: I think it's better than, like, out of nowhere, man,
1:16:08
Speaker 1: in the bunker. It's awesome, right? I think it's better
1:16:10
Speaker 1: like that.
1:16:11
Speaker 3: Dude, who was the roughest team that you picked? You said, damn,
1:16:14
Speaker 3: what a fucking team. You can say a lot there.
1:16:17
Speaker 3: But one, yeah, it must have been one that you
1:16:19
Speaker 3: also said, my God.
1:16:20
Speaker 1: Your game against Manchester. Bayern. Bayern. How many was it?
1:16:24
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. No, I'm going to say it because, bro,
1:16:27
Speaker 1: I scored too. I scored.
1:16:29
Speaker 3: It's 1x0 for you.
1:16:30
Speaker 1: It's 1x0 for me still. 2x0. 2-0.
1:16:32
Speaker 3: Why?
1:16:32
Speaker 1: Because I had the penalty against Boca. Damn. When I
1:16:38
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to play professionally, I'll humiliate you. Go, go.
1:16:42
Speaker 1: Call me to go to the Kings League stadium.
1:16:45
Speaker 3: Are you really going?
1:16:46
Speaker 2: Of course.
1:16:46
Speaker 1: I watch the game at home. How much is the fine?
1:16:50
Speaker 1: I'll bring it to the funkball. I think I'm valued lately. Yeah, right?
1:16:53
Speaker 1: I'm expensive.
1:16:54
Speaker 3: You can't play funkball.
1:16:56
Speaker 1: You can't. Ah, it's Funky Boyzica, bro. I, Hariel, you know?
1:17:00
Speaker 1: I have this experience there. Big key, man. Win a game,
1:17:04
Speaker 1: we go to the ball. Win a game, the kid
1:17:06
Speaker 1: goes to Dega. And Kevin goes home. No, it's a lie.
1:17:13
Speaker 1: I'm not going either. No, but seriously, I watched all
1:17:15
Speaker 1: the King League games. All the games. I like it
1:17:17
Speaker 1: a lot too, bro.
1:17:17
Speaker 3: I watched a lot, man.
1:17:18
Speaker 1: Something I like to watch. King's League rhymes. Really? Who
1:17:22
Speaker 1: are you a fan of in rhymes? Jota. No way, man. Apollo,
1:17:26
Speaker 1: Neo and Magrão. I love Magrão too. I have Neo
1:17:28
Speaker 1: and Magrão. You mentioned one of my favorites, Big Mike.
1:17:31
Speaker 3: Magrão is very good. Do you rhyme?
1:17:33
Speaker 1: If you stop talking about the guys, I know. But me?
1:17:38
Speaker 1: Rhyming about mine?
1:17:39
Speaker 3: Not even joking with friends. I don't know what happens to.
1:17:42
Speaker 1: Me, but I don't know. But you have a hidden talent,
1:17:45
Speaker 1: besides football. Besides Free Fire. Yeah, then it broke me.
1:17:48
Speaker 1: Because Free Fire is very hot. What were we talking
1:17:51
Speaker 1: about before? I'm talking about the football.
1:17:56
Speaker 3: When he got a team in Cascagrossa, you said Bayern.
1:17:58
Speaker 3: But when you were looking at the pitch, were you surprised? Like, man,
1:18:02
Speaker 3: what is this? What an absurd level these guys are.
1:18:04
Speaker 3: Was it like that?
1:18:05
Speaker 1: It's because it was like, you know when you get
1:18:07
Speaker 1: a kid, you give him a lollipop and he takes it?
1:18:09
Speaker 1: He gets there and scores a goal in five minutes.
1:18:12
Speaker 1: There's another chance with, I don't know, with ten. Then
1:18:15
Speaker 1: he takes five. A team like this can't give the
1:18:18
Speaker 1: chance to lose a goal, right, man?
1:18:20
Speaker 3: Yes.
1:18:22
Speaker 1: There was a player of ours who stole the ball.
1:18:26
Speaker 1: He was alone, and after 5 minutes, he took a goal.
1:18:31
Speaker 1: And that's it. Man, I have a... With Bayern Munich, obviously.
1:18:34
Speaker 1: But Bayern Munich gives me an impression... Since 2019, you
1:18:38
Speaker 1: know the Space Jam dolls? That took poison. It's bigger. Man,
1:18:42
Speaker 1: because you look at Goretzka's photos, like 10 years ago
1:18:45
Speaker 1: and now. That Nike commercial where the guy stole? That's it.
1:18:48
Speaker 1: I feel that the bar in Munich is like metal.
1:18:50
Speaker 3: Bro they are with cheat is using ok bro ok ok.
1:18:53
Speaker 1: The guys had some other team that you said yes
1:18:56
Speaker 1: bro the guys there because I don't know for example
1:18:58
Speaker 1: the game I took is if I don't know how
1:19:00
Speaker 1: the roll of it looks like it's five meters high
1:19:02
Speaker 1: oh my god there's a little weak there's a little
1:19:05
Speaker 1: silver Then Haaland has five. But the guys say that
1:19:09
Speaker 1: Bernardo Silva is slow. Go try to get his ball.
1:19:12
Speaker 1: You can't. For me, the most complete player that I've
1:19:15
Speaker 1: ever played against, that I've seen play, was him, bro. Why, brother?
1:19:18
Speaker 1: You can't, bro. Bernardo Silva, you can't, bro. What a
1:19:21
Speaker 1: good guy, bro. He's the kind of guy that makes
1:19:24
Speaker 1: you want to stop and watch him on the field.
1:19:27
Speaker 1: To learn. My God, what a good guy. Give me
1:19:30
Speaker 1: your shirt.
1:19:31
Speaker 3: Very good, man. But Haaland must also be embarrasing.
1:19:34
Speaker 1: He's so big that he gets to be kind of corcundo.
1:19:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, he runs like this, right?
1:19:37
Speaker 1: You've seen him running? He runs like this, like a monster.
1:19:40
Speaker 1: Then we played the first game at home. The game
1:19:42
Speaker 1: was crazy. I don't know, they started losing 1, 2,
1:19:45
Speaker 1: 3 to 0. Then they did 1, 3 to 1.
1:19:46
Speaker 1: Then they went back to the second half, 4 to 1,
1:19:49
Speaker 1: 5 to 1. Then... It was 5x2, 5x3, 5x4. Then,
1:19:53
Speaker 1: in the last shot, they took a goal right on
1:19:56
Speaker 1: top of the line. Almost 9x4, 5x5. Wow, this is
1:19:57
Speaker 1: going to be wonderful. It's going to be great, right? Okay,
1:20:01
Speaker 1: but one curiosity I have. Obviously, the whole club, the Fulham,
1:20:06
Speaker 1: knows that you guys are not going to fight on
1:20:08
Speaker 1: equal footing today, right? It could be that in a
1:20:10
Speaker 1: while there will be a really cool project that starts
1:20:12
Speaker 1: to fight with City, Arsenal, Chelsea, the big clubs there
1:20:16
Speaker 1: in England. What is the speech there when you're going
1:20:18
Speaker 1: to play against a team like this?
1:20:19
Speaker 3: It's like.
1:20:21
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that losing is okay, obviously not. But
1:20:24
Speaker 1: how is it? Because when you're at Palmeiras, it's like,
1:20:27
Speaker 1: let's win everything. Because we have the conditions. At Shakhtar,
1:20:30
Speaker 1: it's like, let's try a classification here, but in Ukraine
1:20:33
Speaker 1: you have to win everything. But in the Champions League,
1:20:34
Speaker 1: maybe there's no such requirement. I want to know, at Fulham,
1:20:36
Speaker 1: how is it? It's like, it's because there, man, the
1:20:39
Speaker 1: game is a lot of crazy. And just like you
1:20:43
Speaker 1: can win, I don't know, from 4 to 0, you
1:20:45
Speaker 1: can lose from 5. In the same game. It's very open, right?
1:20:52
Speaker 1: The game is very, like, this and that all the time. So, like,
1:20:58
Speaker 1: what catches the most attention, what he says the most, like,
1:21:01
Speaker 1: more about warnings, like, before the games, is always the
1:21:04
Speaker 1: game away, which is the hardest to play. Because at home,
1:21:07
Speaker 1: it seems that, like, everyone knows the size of their field,
1:21:09
Speaker 1: has their own fans, is in their stadium. It's going
1:21:11
Speaker 1: to be much better. But, like, game away, you have
1:21:14
Speaker 1: to have all that pressure, all that calm, it's very difficult.
1:21:17
Speaker 3: But how is the current situation of the team?
1:21:19
Speaker 1: Well, we finished this championship well. I think we got
1:21:21
Speaker 1: two points from the European competition. But it's very difficult, man. No,
1:21:28
Speaker 1: there is a high... We finished in 10th, Chelsea... We
1:21:30
Speaker 1: in 11th, Chelsea in 10th. And Tottenham almost fell, man.
1:21:32
Speaker 1: It was one point. One point for Tottenham not to fall.
1:21:36
Speaker 1: One point, no. I think they fought for the goal.
1:21:38
Speaker 1: What madness, man. West Ham fell.
1:21:42
Speaker 3: Man, and how is the media there? What is the media?
1:21:46
Speaker 1: It seems to be violent there, man.
1:21:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, man. So I saw recently saying that the media
1:21:49
Speaker 3: there is very, very heavy, man. I just don't say
1:21:50
Speaker 3: it's worse than here because there's no way.
1:21:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the media here... But, man, there it's out too, man.
1:21:55
Speaker 1: There it exclusifies too. Heavy criticism. A lot of things.
1:22:10
Speaker 1: .
1:22:11
Speaker 3: And how
1:22:12
Speaker 3: do you see the media's relationship with you? Do they
1:22:15
Speaker 3: have affection for you?
1:22:16
Speaker 1: Do they hit you sometimes? They say it's a drastic
1:22:20
Speaker 1: change to leave a league that they consider weak to
1:22:22
Speaker 1: a league like the Premier League, which is harder to
1:22:25
Speaker 1: play nowadays. So, they used to say, I don't know,
1:22:28
Speaker 1: give time to time, these things and everything. But then,
1:22:31
Speaker 1: when I started performing better, when I started to do well,
1:22:34
Speaker 1: when I started to have a little bit left, then
1:22:37
Speaker 1: that's it. The charges are the same, right? Man, that
1:22:41
Speaker 1: must be hard. But I think it comes from the
1:22:44
Speaker 1: place where football is lived as a lifestyle. Like Brazil, England,
1:22:49
Speaker 1: maybe in France it's hard as hell too, because they
1:22:52
Speaker 1: are places where football is very alive, right, bro? The
1:22:54
Speaker 1: guys live football, they don't just cheer.
1:22:56
Speaker 3: It's a life model.
1:22:57
Speaker 1: You have to stay away from Instagram, from these things, right, brother?
1:23:01
Speaker 1: The thing is Free Fire. The training ends, the game ends,
1:23:04
Speaker 1: it's Free Fire.
1:23:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what I was going to ask you too, bro.
1:23:07
Speaker 3: You're a guy who's in the media. And how do
1:23:11
Speaker 3: you deal with this? In relation to comments, in relation
1:23:13
Speaker 3: to gossip, in relation to this kind of thing that
1:23:16
Speaker 3: happens on social media, bro.
1:23:17
Speaker 1: Man, I'll tell you that I don't even call, man. Really?
1:23:20
Speaker 3: Message too.
1:23:21
Speaker 1: Keep it that way, man. Nothing, nothing. For me, my
1:23:23
Speaker 1: day is always the same thing, practically. I get home,
1:23:26
Speaker 1: if I don't play my game, I stay good watching
1:23:29
Speaker 1: a movie, a series, put it on YouTube and watch
1:23:31
Speaker 1: the rhyme. I keep watching the same rhyme every time,
1:23:33
Speaker 1: but I watch it. The one from Magrão, I think
1:23:35
Speaker 1: I've seen it, man. I don't know how many times.
1:23:37
Speaker 1: The one where he did the last cuguinho? Damn it.
1:23:41
Speaker 1: You're crazy.
1:23:41
Speaker 3: So you don't care.
1:23:42
Speaker 1: I don't run behind the wall, I don't even look
1:23:45
Speaker 1: at the guy. You're crazy, you know? But you kill yourself.
1:23:48
Speaker 1: It's very difficult. Who was born to be thin will
1:23:49
Speaker 1: never be thin. Who was born to be gay will
1:23:51
Speaker 1: die as gay. Liar and bastard. You're going to be
1:23:52
Speaker 1: bought on the break, you know? Take it to the
1:23:54
Speaker 1: other side. It's no use getting angry. I don't want
1:23:56
Speaker 1: to do it anymore. I talked about the battle here
1:23:58
Speaker 1: on stage. You can talk about the battle. Every Monday, bro.
1:24:00
Speaker 3: My dream is to go to the anniversary. But in July.
1:24:07
Speaker 1: Then I came with the biggest expectation of being in July,
1:24:11
Speaker 1: because my vacation now goes until July. And in Shakhtar
1:24:13
Speaker 1: I took, I don't know, two weeks, because then I
1:24:16
Speaker 1: divided it in the middle of the year and the
1:24:17
Speaker 1: end of the year. And now that I took the
1:24:18
Speaker 1: vacation all at once, I said, no, now I'm going.
1:24:21
Speaker 1: Then it changed. Think how I got angry. I almost
1:24:25
Speaker 1: broke my cell phone.
1:24:25
Speaker 3: How many days of vacation do you have?
1:24:28
Speaker 1: Do you have a month? I'm going to do it
1:24:31
Speaker 1: in England, man.
1:24:32
Speaker 3: A month. And what are you doing on vacation now?
1:24:35
Speaker 1: Without Free Fire, bro. Oh, bro, there's no way. I
1:24:37
Speaker 1: play Free Fire all the time, bro. Every day. But
1:24:40
Speaker 1: do you have a weak point? Like, like, pudding, dessert, yeah,
1:24:43
Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, so, the candy itself is my weak point.
1:24:48
Speaker 1: The candy is good, right, bro? It's f * *
1:24:49
Speaker 1: * ing good. To talk about this subject is f
1:24:52
Speaker 1: * * * ing good.
1:24:52
Speaker 3: You can't talk about it, right? But what do you... Brownie, brigadeiro.
1:24:56
Speaker 3: In the holidays, are you sleeping a lot? Are you
1:24:57
Speaker 3: with your wife? Are you with your family?
1:24:59
Speaker 1: It's because I'm staying more at home now, because there's
1:25:03
Speaker 1: the woman thing... And my mom also went through surgery, right, bro?
1:25:06
Speaker 1: I'm more at home now, calm. You must also be
1:25:08
Speaker 1: full of longing, right? It's fucking far away. Are you
1:25:10
Speaker 1: alone there?
1:25:10
Speaker 3: Alone. Only me and Free Fire.
1:25:15
Speaker 1: Wow, man.
1:25:16
Speaker 3: Man.
1:25:17
Speaker 1: Man, you have to be resilient, man. No, but that's
1:25:19
Speaker 1: what I'm used to, man. I've been since I was 13, right? Ah,
1:25:22
Speaker 1: so it's true.
1:25:23
Speaker 3: And in relation to the climate there, the experience there,
1:25:26
Speaker 3: how is it? Because there it's gray. It's worse than here, bro.
1:25:29
Speaker 1: You know when it starts raining and ends in the sun?
1:25:30
Speaker 1: There was a day when I went to train. Then
1:25:33
Speaker 1: I woke up, it was cold, I got in the car,
1:25:36
Speaker 1: it was hot, then I got in the sun, I
1:25:39
Speaker 1: went to the gym, it was raining, hail, in the
1:25:42
Speaker 1: middle of the field, snow, then sun. And to drive?
1:25:48
Speaker 1: First day, I took the car there and tapped the car, man,
1:25:53
Speaker 1: I broke the tire.
1:25:55
Speaker 3: It's because it's the other way around.
1:25:57
Speaker 1: It's because it's on the other side. Like, here we
1:25:59
Speaker 1: are on the left, there on the right. Yeah, guys,
1:26:01
Speaker 1: for those who don't know, in England, the steering wheel
1:26:03
Speaker 1: is on the right side. So you... The hand also changes, right, bro?
1:26:07
Speaker 3: It must be very strange, bro.
1:26:08
Speaker 1: Imagine the first day. I took it and I went, bro.
1:26:11
Speaker 1: And I was like this, look. I took it and
1:26:12
Speaker 1: I was like this, with both hands, holding it firmly.
1:26:16
Speaker 1: For what? Have you ever been to England, Mitch? It's
1:26:17
Speaker 1: really crazy, bro. Because, like, normally the hand here on
1:26:19
Speaker 1: the left, you're driving... Normally, right, in Brazil, you're driving
1:26:21
Speaker 1: here on the left. The left side is the one
1:26:24
Speaker 1: that's coming back. It's all the other way around. In
1:26:26
Speaker 1: England it's the other way around. So you're going on
1:26:28
Speaker 1: the right and the one on the left is coming back.
1:26:30
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
1:26:31
Speaker 1: It changes everything, bro.
1:26:31
Speaker 3: It's crazy. But what did you do? Did you pass
1:26:34
Speaker 3: on a sidewalk?
1:26:34
Speaker 1: Bro, it's because there are places in England that are
1:26:37
Speaker 1: like this. It's like a street that only passes a car. Okay.
1:26:39
Speaker 1: And then there's the sign that shows if the car
1:26:42
Speaker 1: has to come from here, which is the priority, or
1:26:44
Speaker 1: from here. Okay. And the priority was mine. And I'm
1:26:47
Speaker 1: going to go straight. Straight, straight, bro. Passed and tapped. Man,
1:26:54
Speaker 1: it was, I don't know, my first five minutes with
1:26:55
Speaker 1: the car.
1:26:56
Speaker 3: Wow.
1:26:57
Speaker 1: Believe me. It was your rent. Rent.
1:26:59
Speaker 3: Ah, so you called the guincho there.
1:27:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I had to pay a lot of money.
1:27:04
Speaker 1: Libras is no longer cheap. Libras, right? It's no longer cheap, right? Wow.
1:27:10
Speaker 3: I had to pay. Wow.
1:27:10
Speaker 1: It's also soft today. There are times when I confuse
1:27:12
Speaker 1: more here than there.
1:27:13
Speaker 3: And food?
1:27:13
Speaker 1: Man, there the food is good. And there's still a
1:27:16
Speaker 1: woman who works for me, Suzy. She's Brazilian, man. And
1:27:19
Speaker 1: there's a Brazilian market. So forget it.
1:27:21
Speaker 3: In your little house, the food is normal.
1:27:25
Speaker 1: Sweet. You can eat a little bit, right? Man, I
1:27:28
Speaker 1: remember when I went there, it was either a pie
1:27:30
Speaker 1: or a fish with french fries. Yeah, french fries.
1:27:32
Speaker 3: What's the dish there? It's fish and french fries. Fish
1:27:35
Speaker 3: and fries? Ah, but it's good, isn't it?
1:27:38
Speaker 1: Pô, but... It's expensive. You're thinking it's the fish from here,
1:27:41
Speaker 1: that it's going to be that way. No, the fish
1:27:43
Speaker 1: is normal, bro. It looks like it's raw. Yeah, you
1:27:45
Speaker 1: take the fish, dive with the head and everything. It's
1:27:48
Speaker 1: a lie, right? Yes, but... It's not like you're asking
1:27:51
Speaker 1: for a marisco on the beach, man.
1:27:53
Speaker 3: And what did you like about there? Apart from football
1:27:56
Speaker 3: and Free Fire, man.
1:27:57
Speaker 1: Man, it's that there... It's like I'm in São Paulo,
1:27:59
Speaker 1: but there's everything, man. All the time, there's everything you
1:28:01
Speaker 1: want to do. There's everything there to do. So, like,
1:28:04
Speaker 1: if you want to go to a store, I don't know, like,
1:28:06
Speaker 1: from Grifo, and you're on the street, you know? And
1:28:09
Speaker 1: the rap scene there is really cool, too, right? Top, man. Top.
1:28:13
Speaker 1: There's everything to do. I think it's really good. Let's
1:28:15
Speaker 1: go there because of Disney.
1:28:16
Speaker 3: And the people?
1:28:16
Speaker 1: But the shit there is the traffic.
1:28:17
Speaker 3: A lot of traffic.
1:28:18
Speaker 1: And look here, man. It's worse than here. And there,
1:28:21
Speaker 1: the roads are all slow, bro. It's 20, maximum, maximum,
1:28:25
Speaker 1: maximum 50. Wow, 20? Inside the city, right?
1:28:28
Speaker 3: It's almost stopping. And the people, culturally?
1:28:32
Speaker 1: Man, it's so quiet to walk on the street. One
1:28:35
Speaker 1: person or another comes, stops, greets, but, it's too quiet
1:28:37
Speaker 1: to walk on the street. Too quiet. There was a
1:28:41
Speaker 1: game where we played, we took off the uniform of
1:28:44
Speaker 1: the team's game, of the tour, and went to the restaurant.
1:28:48
Speaker 1: Carnaval and... It was good, quiet.
1:28:51
Speaker 3: And the crowd, is it a cool crowd? Do you
1:28:53
Speaker 3: accept it when you expect it? How is it related.
1:28:56
Speaker 1: To the crowd? As I can say, English is cold, right? So, like,
1:29:01
Speaker 1: the moment of the game they want a lot, but
1:29:05
Speaker 1: they lost.
1:29:06
Speaker 3: They go away and don't even complain.
1:29:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, they go away. They lose, it's over in five
1:29:11
Speaker 1: minutes and everyone's already at home. Yeah, it's a matter
1:29:15
Speaker 1: of achievement, right? Like, you have a passion, but you
1:29:18
Speaker 1: didn't bring the result to my house. What a cold, man.
1:29:21
Speaker 3: And how's your contract there? How many seasons are you
1:29:24
Speaker 3: going to spend there? Man, I have five years.
1:29:27
Speaker 1: Wow.
1:29:27
Speaker 3: That's good, man.
1:29:30
Speaker 1: In Libras, right? But football is awesome, right? All of
1:29:33
Speaker 1: a sudden, I go there and, I don't know, I
1:29:35
Speaker 1: have a very good season, another team arrives. Football is
1:29:39
Speaker 1: like that, bro. That's it. I was in Shakhtar at
1:29:41
Speaker 1: the same time, too.
1:29:42
Speaker 3: Five years, too. And how are you seeing the Brazilian team, man?
1:29:46
Speaker 3: Do you have expectations, too, of being called? How is
1:29:48
Speaker 3: this process?
1:29:49
Speaker 1: We'll talk here again some day. I'll work for the team,
1:29:53
Speaker 1: for us. Ah, yes. Right? Wow, I'm sure, bro. How
1:29:55
Speaker 1: do you see the team? Like, is that it? Do
1:29:56
Speaker 1: you want a lot... I still wanted to play with Neymar.
1:30:01
Speaker 1: I wanted to be there when Neymar was there. But
1:30:04
Speaker 1: after this match, it won't be cool. Yeah, I think
1:30:08
Speaker 1: he already warned that he won't play anymore. I think
1:30:11
Speaker 1: it's the The Last Dance. I'll have to do something
1:30:14
Speaker 1: to see him. I've never seen him yet. My God.
1:30:17
Speaker 1: Didn't you find the man? Ah, for sure, you're going
1:30:19
Speaker 1: to troll, man. I don't know if I'm going to
1:30:20
Speaker 1: say something to him.
1:30:22
Speaker 3: You're a big fan?
1:30:23
Speaker 1: Very. Really? I'm crazy for him. I'm... Ah, man. I
1:30:25
Speaker 1: don't hide from anyone.
1:30:26
Speaker 3: God in heaven, not even on earth. Not even.
1:30:29
Speaker 1: I was arguing at home because of him. No, he
1:30:30
Speaker 1: said Neymar, I can't do it, bro. I argue. You
1:30:33
Speaker 1: defend him. With all my strength.
1:30:35
Speaker 3: With all my strength.
1:30:35
Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to play this Cup, bro? Bro,
1:30:38
Speaker 1: it's that.
1:30:39
Speaker 3: The difficult thing is because.
1:30:40
Speaker 1: The calf injury is very annoying, bro.
1:30:43
Speaker 3: Very annoying.
1:30:44
Speaker 1: It's more annoying than the posterior thigh. It's very difficult,
1:30:46
Speaker 1: it's a lot of pain. Anything, you already hurt it again.
1:30:49
Speaker 1: Everything is the calf, right? To run, to run, you
1:30:50
Speaker 1: have to be calm. And then, I don't know, maybe
1:30:52
Speaker 1: this game he won't play, right? With Tahiti. Ah, no,
1:30:55
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to play, no. But I
1:30:57
Speaker 1: hope he can recover, bro. But I'll tell you, Mítico,
1:31:00
Speaker 1: I'm a big soccer fan, I'm a cornet player, but
1:31:04
Speaker 1: it starts, man. It's like Corinthians, you can be with
1:31:08
Speaker 1: the Serie C team, you start a game, you're not
1:31:11
Speaker 1: going to win, you don't want to know anything. I'm Brazilian,
1:31:13
Speaker 1: I'm Brazilian. I'm very into soccer, man. So, it started now,
1:31:16
Speaker 1: obviously we didn't make the dream game at the premiere.
1:31:19
Speaker 1: But Marrocos is good, right? Marrocos is very good. You
1:31:21
Speaker 1: saw the guys... Very good. distributing themselves compactly like this.
1:31:25
Speaker 1: Very good. Everyone moves, man. That's what I'm talking about.
1:31:29
Speaker 1: Today's soccer is very modern, man. And I feel that
1:31:33
Speaker 1: Brazilians still have a culture of, like... I'm a monster.
1:31:39
Speaker 1: You know? So I think that when we have... Obviously,
1:31:42
Speaker 1: I'm talking roughly here, everyone trains a lot, everyone there
1:31:45
Speaker 1: is very professional, they're in the biggest leagues in the world. Obviously,
1:31:47
Speaker 1: they know what they have to do. But man, you
1:31:50
Speaker 1: have to run. Did you see that Morocco guy, 18
1:31:54
Speaker 1: years old?
1:31:54
Speaker 3: 18 years old.
1:31:55
Speaker 1: Very young. Very young, playing in the Copa as if
1:31:57
Speaker 1: you were in the Playbol, man.
1:31:59
Speaker 3: Are you watching this Copa?
1:32:02
Speaker 1: I was watching it now, before I went up here.
1:32:04
Speaker 1: I saw you were in the Playbol yesterday. Calm down, man.
1:32:07
Speaker 1: I wasn't? No, it was the second.
1:32:08
Speaker 3: No, I said you were watching the Copa. Ah, sorry.
1:32:10
Speaker 1: You were watching Portugal now.
1:32:14
Speaker 3: Did you see it yesterday in Argentina?
1:32:15
Speaker 1: Messi is out of the ordinary.
1:32:17
Speaker 3: What did Messi do?
1:32:18
Speaker 1: Messi is out of the ordinary. But I posted the
1:32:21
Speaker 1: status yesterday. What? Messi is the 0-1, right, bro? So,
1:32:24
Speaker 1: I gave myself to him. Ah, I got it. I
1:32:27
Speaker 1: posted it yesterday. I'll even show you. I gave myself
1:32:30
Speaker 1: to Messi, bro.
1:32:31
Speaker 3: I'll show you.
1:32:32
Speaker 1: Fuck, bro. I was a defender of Cristiano Ronaldo with
1:32:34
Speaker 1: teeth and teeth forever. I still posted the status. Messi
1:32:38
Speaker 1: is the 0-1, because Neymar is the 0-0. Yeah, it's Ney.
1:32:42
Speaker 1: And Neymar saying that Messi scored a penalty. I said, wow.
1:32:44
Speaker 1: Can you imagine saying that?
1:32:45
Speaker 3: A lot of imagination.
1:32:46
Speaker 1: But it was crazy.
1:32:47
Speaker 3: If you're an athlete, seeing a Messi of his life
1:32:51
Speaker 3: doing what he did yesterday. No, you're crazy. It's not possible.
1:32:54
Speaker 3: But it's scary, bro. If he catches the ball, it's
1:32:57
Speaker 3: not possible. Look, from the heart, what I expected... You're
1:32:59
Speaker 3: changing that idea, right, Mítico, before you arrive?
1:33:02
Speaker 1: He's a Messi, obviously, he's an ET, but what I
1:33:04
Speaker 1: want to say is, he went to MLS, he went
1:33:06
Speaker 1: to play a more relaxed league, some games there I follow,
1:33:08
Speaker 1: from Inter-Miami, you see that he's... It's not that... It's
1:33:17
Speaker 1: more relaxed. Yeah, it's calmer. You can rest for the
1:33:19
Speaker 1: cup then, it seems.
1:33:20
Speaker 3: No, bro!
1:33:20
Speaker 1: Yesterday I was looking at him marking the side, I
1:33:23
Speaker 1: was shocked. When I saw him marking the side... He
1:33:25
Speaker 1: dropped the ball in the back, bro. I said, what
1:33:27
Speaker 1: is this? And then he was playing a lot, and
1:33:29
Speaker 1: he doesn't stay... He doesn't hit the ball with his foot,
1:33:32
Speaker 1: it's two touches, he already opens, the guys are always
1:33:34
Speaker 1: looking for him. Man, he, for me, watching yesterday, I
1:33:37
Speaker 1: felt like, he has the same football sign, to the
1:33:40
Speaker 1: point of cutting so many paths that he has, I
1:33:42
Speaker 1: don't know, three seconds of possession of the ball and
1:33:45
Speaker 1: makes a goal, you know? Man, you're going to see
1:33:47
Speaker 1: him in one of those goals, passing to everyone, one, two, three, goal. Damn,
1:33:51
Speaker 1: no one's doing that.
1:33:52
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
1:33:53
Speaker 1: When he catches Chapadinho on that little foot of his, 32. So,
1:33:56
Speaker 1: and the second goal? The second goal, I was in shock, brother.
1:33:58
Speaker 1: At the time of the rebound, he... Forget it. He
1:34:00
Speaker 1: just shot with the right, man. The guy wasn't expecting it, man.
1:34:02
Speaker 1: He's very good, man. There's no way. Look... Did you
1:34:05
Speaker 1: score a goal against Manchester United? Look at this head.
1:34:08
Speaker 1: That's to confirm. Got it? Preula's goal. Man, that's my specialty. Chapadinha?
1:34:12
Speaker 1: I like that one. Open. Take it. I like it
1:34:15
Speaker 1: a lot. R1². Is it from FIFA? You know, man. Man,
1:34:18
Speaker 1: I like that one a lot. I used to play
1:34:21
Speaker 1: a lot at Palmeiras. But why? At Shakhtar too. Brother,
1:34:22
Speaker 1: I'm going to be very honest with you. When I
1:34:24
Speaker 1: entered the professional field for the first time, I was
1:34:28
Speaker 1: playing a lot of games. Crap. Because at home, I
1:34:36
Speaker 1: see the guys catching the ball in the middle, and
1:34:37
Speaker 1: I'm like, go! Kick! It's too far, man.
1:34:41
Speaker 3: No, when you see the goal. The goal. The first
1:34:43
Speaker 3: thing you see is the goal itself.
1:34:44
Speaker 1: The first thing you see is the goalkeeper passing the crossbar.
1:34:46
Speaker 1: When he does that, he passes the crossbar.
1:34:48
Speaker 3: Man, the first time I went to a field, I
1:34:50
Speaker 3: think it was in Maracanã, I think it was in Maracanã, Morumbi,
1:34:53
Speaker 3: I looked at the goal and I said, ah, okay,
1:34:55
Speaker 3: look at this, what a difference.
1:34:57
Speaker 1: From what you see on TV. Then you see, you
1:34:58
Speaker 1: look from one goal to the other, it looks like
1:35:01
Speaker 1: there's what? Ayrton Senna all over.
1:35:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, man. It's really big. It's very different from what
1:35:06
Speaker 3: you see personally. And there are games where you take
1:35:08
Speaker 3: a stadium.
1:35:08
Speaker 1: That seems to be even bigger. What was the biggest
1:35:10
Speaker 1: stadium you played in?
1:35:11
Speaker 3: For me, the one that seemed to be bigger was City.
1:35:16
Speaker 1: It seems that the stadium never ended. Etihad. I think
1:35:19
Speaker 1: it was. And there's an Embley there, there are several, right?
1:35:24
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've played in an Embley yet. Brother,
1:35:27
Speaker 1: now playing in the Champions League already. Star ball, a
1:35:30
Speaker 1: little patch on the shirt. You have one of these, right?
1:35:34
Speaker 1: It's in.
1:35:36
Speaker 3: The frame already.
1:35:39
Speaker 1: You have... I was going to say... I was going
1:35:40
Speaker 1: to ask if you have any dreams in your head, like...
1:35:44
Speaker 1: For now, not in the future. Dreams like... Ah, I
1:35:47
Speaker 1: really want to score a goal here. I really want
1:35:50
Speaker 1: to stand out in this. Or is it something that
1:35:53
Speaker 1: you don't care about personal goals now? Man, it's that... Like...
1:35:59
Speaker 1: I've always been very... How can I say it? to
1:36:04
Speaker 1: stand out in what I can. Okay. So, like, my best,
1:36:07
Speaker 1: I have to be the best in what I can do. Like,
1:36:09
Speaker 1: I really like dribbling. I really like to, I don't know,
1:36:13
Speaker 1: create a lot of different plays. So, I want to
1:36:16
Speaker 1: be the best in that. Like, then, I saw a
1:36:18
Speaker 1: data last week now that I was the Brazilian with
1:36:19
Speaker 1: the most dribbling right. I saw. So, I can already
1:36:22
Speaker 1: think that in the next season I want to be
1:36:23
Speaker 1: the one who has the most dribbling right in the
1:36:24
Speaker 1: entire Premier League. Done. I already want to grow the
1:36:30
Speaker 1: number of goals too, you know? The few, right? And
1:36:32
Speaker 1: now Igor Thiago also extrapolated, right? He also scored, I
1:36:35
Speaker 1: don't know, 23 goals. The Brazilian record was 10, I think.
1:36:38
Speaker 1: Was it from Richardson? I don't remember. From Everton. Firmino,
1:36:40
Speaker 1: I think. Firmino?
1:36:41
Speaker 3: True.
1:36:42
Speaker 1: Man, he scored twice. Bizarre, man.
1:36:44
Speaker 3: Wow, bizarre.
1:36:46
Speaker 1: And it's very difficult to score in the first league.
1:36:49
Speaker 1: It's very difficult for people to score 10-10. Like, score
1:36:54
Speaker 1: 10 assists and 10 goals. He scored 22 goals, man.
1:36:56
Speaker 1: You're crazy, man. It's a very difficult thing. Man, I
1:36:59
Speaker 1: could have scored more goals. Man, I'm confident too, brother.
1:37:03
Speaker 1: It's going to work out. God willing, Mítico Jovem. It's
1:37:06
Speaker 1: going to work out. I have questions for you to
1:37:08
Speaker 1: do in a faster way here, can I? Let's go.
1:37:11
Speaker 1: Let's go, Kevin. Do you prefer to score a goal
1:37:15
Speaker 1: in the final of the Libertadores or the Champions? Champions.
1:37:18
Speaker 1: Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo? Messi. Messi or Neymar? Neymar. Stadium
1:37:22
Speaker 1: with the most tense atmosphere you've ever played in? Besiktas.
1:37:26
Speaker 1: It was there.
1:37:27
Speaker 3: We know that the thing is crazy.
1:37:30
Speaker 1: Um prato inglês que você não gosta. Vixe, difícil, hein, mano?
1:37:34
Speaker 1: Eu gosto de todos, eu acho. Tem chulé? Não. Você
1:37:40
Speaker 1: prefere ser o lado de dentro ou de fora da conchinha?
1:37:43
Speaker 1: Conchinha menor. É o lado de dentro, né?
1:37:46
Speaker 3: Dentro. É a conchinha menor, né?
1:37:47
Speaker 1: Sempre.
1:37:48
Speaker 3: Sempre, eu também.
1:37:48
Speaker 1: Só durmo assim. Ideia de date perfeito quando tá, ó, quebrado. Broke.
1:37:53
Speaker 1: Sem grana.
1:37:53
Speaker 3: Eu não lembro mais como que é isso.
1:37:55
Speaker 1: Não, mas perfeito sem nada. Sem nada, é. Ah, mano.
1:37:59
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a hot dog at Tatuapé Square.
1:38:04
Speaker 3: You know?
1:38:04
Speaker 1: Siva Romero.
1:38:05
Speaker 3: Of course.
1:38:05
Speaker 1: He knows about things. And a churrinho later. Did I
1:38:08
Speaker 1: make a mistake? No. I already did that. Thank you.
1:38:11
Speaker 1: You already had a date at Siva Romero?
1:38:13
Speaker 3: I did.
1:38:14
Speaker 1: I swear. I love you. I swear.
1:38:15
Speaker 3: Hot dog there. Are you crazy? I lived there in.
1:38:20
Speaker 3: One of my first kisses.
1:38:22
Speaker 1: Was at the Osasco Plaza Shop, at the Osasco station.
1:38:26
Speaker 3: Fuck, respect me, Pumbo. Pumbo.
1:38:28
Speaker 1: Fuck, how good to remember that. And how was your date?
1:38:32
Speaker 1: Very funny. What did you eat?
1:38:33
Speaker 3: Hotdog?
1:38:33
Speaker 1: I ate hotdog without Pumbo.
1:38:34
Speaker 3: She ate with Pumbo.
1:38:35
Speaker 1: I said, man, you're going to make a lambança.
1:38:37
Speaker 2: Why?
1:38:37
Speaker 3: Ah, because... He's from Pará. I was going to watch.
1:38:39
Speaker 1: The girl and I....
1:38:47
Speaker 3: Me sujando inteiro, tá ligado?
1:38:49
Speaker 1: Ah, que fresquinho. Você tentou bater ele pra tacar a
1:38:52
Speaker 1: boquinha ali. É, eu tentei.
1:38:54
Speaker 3: Fazer menos bagunça possível, mas eu comi. Não uma só vez.
1:38:58
Speaker 1: Aí ela sujou a boca e você chegou nela.
1:39:00
Speaker 3: Isso, pode sujar.
1:39:01
Speaker 1: Olha, amor, tem mostarda aqui. Tá bom, tá bom. Aí, tal,
1:39:04
Speaker 1: teve uma sobremesinha?
1:39:06
Speaker 3: Acho que churros ou açaí.
1:39:09
Speaker 1: Coisa linda, mano. Lindo, perfeito. Era todo um do lado
1:39:12
Speaker 1: do outro. Perfeito, perfeito.
1:39:14
Speaker 3: Perfeito, perfeito. It was more than once and more than
1:39:17
Speaker 3: one person.
1:39:18
Speaker 1: Calm down, don't say that. No, no, no. I'm just
1:39:21
Speaker 1: saying that I lived there. Yes, it was in front
1:39:23
Speaker 1: of your house.
1:39:24
Speaker 3: It was in front of my house. I miss Tatuapé. Really?
1:39:26
Speaker 3: I'm kidding. Yes, Tatuapé was really cool.
1:39:30
Speaker 1: I love it.
1:39:32
Speaker 3: Man, he lived... He lived next to Silvio Romero. Speaking
1:39:36
Speaker 3: of the roof you lived on, it's a good thing, right?
1:39:39
Speaker 1: It was in front of Bololô.
1:39:44
Speaker 3: I lived in front of Bololo.
1:39:46
Speaker 1: No, you were the neighbor of the former president of Corinthians,
1:39:48
Speaker 1: of Ilho.
1:39:49
Speaker 3: And I lived in front of Bololo, in the restaurant of... Oh, Cabrini!
1:39:57
Speaker 1: Oh, Cabrini! Calm down, stop. You're going to get fucked, man. Sorry, man.
1:40:00
Speaker 3: Passed the limit.
1:40:01
Speaker 1: Keep going, man. Sorry, you said Cabrini and the thing was...
1:40:05
Speaker 1: Fuck it. Oh, Cabrini! I don't want to never see you, bro.
1:40:11
Speaker 1: That's it. I don't want to never see you. You
1:40:13
Speaker 1: don't need to see him. It's an idea of perfect identity, okay?
1:40:15
Speaker 1: I don't want to know anything about you. I don't
1:40:22
Speaker 1: want to know anything about you, no. I don't want to.
1:40:24
Speaker 3: Know anything about you, no.
1:40:26
Speaker 1: Joy. Joy. I lost focus, bro. I lost focus. I
1:40:28
Speaker 1: left Cabrinho and he killed me, bro.
1:40:30
Speaker 3: Relax, bro.
1:40:31
Speaker 2: Relax.
1:40:31
Speaker 1: Do you like carbonara pasta?
1:40:33
Speaker 3: Of course.
1:40:33
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to know. Which is your favorite? Damn,
1:40:37
Speaker 1: I liked it, bro. Can I ask more? I.
1:40:40
Speaker 3: Churrasco, mano.
1:40:41
Speaker 1: Eu gosto de feijão. Sai do normal. Churrasco seria o normal?
1:40:46
Speaker 1: Sai do normal? Mano, eu gosto muito de... Arroz, feijão, bife,
1:40:53
Speaker 1: batata e bananinha cortada. Em cima do arroz. Vai banana
1:40:56
Speaker 1: na frita? Banana normal. French fries are also very good,
1:41:00
Speaker 1: but I like the normal ones. I eat all the normal.
1:41:02
Speaker 3: Bananas at lunch. Very good.
1:41:02
Speaker 1: There are people who think it's different.
1:41:04
Speaker 3: Man, it's very good.
1:41:05
Speaker 1: I like bananas at lunch, with rice and beans. I'm
1:41:09
Speaker 1: with you.
1:41:09
Speaker 3: My favorite, I think it's... chicken parmigiano. Okay, but when
1:41:12
Speaker 3: you miss.
1:41:12
Speaker 1: Your mother, your mother knows you're coming on vacation... My
1:41:16
Speaker 1: mother doesn't cook? She doesn't? And your father? Ah, meu pai,
1:41:25
Speaker 1: ele aí é da hora. Ah, você viu ele? Masterchef.
1:41:28
Speaker 1: Qual que é a especialidade dele, então?
1:41:31
Speaker 3: Doce.
1:41:32
Speaker 1: É doce. O bagulho dele é doce.
1:41:33
Speaker 3: Sério?
1:41:33
Speaker 1: Ele faz uma torta de cookies, meu irmão. Meu irmão.
1:41:38
Speaker 1: Aí o bagulho é bom. Então ele faz a tortinha
1:41:40
Speaker 1: quando o filhinho tá voltando? Aí só eu como. Não
1:41:43
Speaker 1: deixo ninguém comer, não. Fico louco. Você é louco. Ninguém
1:41:46
Speaker 1: come comigo, não. Nem teu irmão mais novo? Não, você
1:41:48
Speaker 1: é louco. Já fico em casa o tempo todo. Quando
1:41:50
Speaker 1: eu vou pra lá, só eu como.
1:41:52
Speaker 3: Tá certo.
1:41:55
Speaker 1: He said he hit Daniel with a shell, and Daniel
1:41:57
Speaker 1: took a piece.
1:41:57
Speaker 3: There are foods like this that I don't let anyone take.
1:42:00
Speaker 1: What's your biggest fight with your brother? Those beer brothers.
1:42:03
Speaker 1: That he gets angry with you. Does he take your clothes? No,
1:42:07
Speaker 1: but I'm used to it.
1:42:08
Speaker 3: He's lazy.
1:42:08
Speaker 1: He's lazy. He must take your clothes a lot.
1:42:10
Speaker 3: He takes everything. He steals, perfumes. Isabela would do that
1:42:13
Speaker 3: to me too.
1:42:13
Speaker 1: Isabela would do that to me too. I'm used to
1:42:15
Speaker 1: it too.
1:42:15
Speaker 3: Normal.
1:42:16
Speaker 1: That day I got home and said this. Daniel... Did
1:42:25
Speaker 1: you see my slipper? Then he went to his wardrobe
1:42:28
Speaker 1: and took it like this. Then he took one. Then
1:42:32
Speaker 1: I said like this. It was this one, I'm going
1:42:35
Speaker 1: to use it. Then he took the other one and
1:42:37
Speaker 1: said like this. I'm going to use this one today, okay?
1:42:40
Speaker 1: He had the courage, the face of a stick to
1:42:42
Speaker 1: take my slipper. He was in his wardrobe and asked
1:42:43
Speaker 1: to use it still. You know what he was using
1:42:47
Speaker 1: for a long time.
1:42:48
Speaker 3: How can you? Brother, right, brother?
1:42:49
Speaker 1: The younger ones take a ox. Do you know that
1:42:52
Speaker 1: you took a ox? No, right?
1:42:53
Speaker 3: No.
1:42:54
Speaker 1: And worst of all, he uses my number, my size
1:42:57
Speaker 1: of clothes, all the same. But yeah, I'm talking, the
1:43:00
Speaker 1: new generation.
1:43:01
Speaker 3: But is he as skinny as you?
1:43:02
Speaker 1: I'm more handsome.
1:43:03
Speaker 2: Yeah?
1:43:03
Speaker 3: I am. Where is he?
1:43:05
Speaker 1: Let me see.
1:43:06
Speaker 3: He's watching now and he says, fuck no.
1:43:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, so... I doubt he does, he knows.
1:43:09
Speaker 3: So, but.
1:43:09
Speaker 1: When he's your age, you'll already... You know? He'll be
1:43:13
Speaker 1: closer to ours. Then he'll stimulate you. He looks like
1:43:15
Speaker 1: a garça. Stop, man. The guy is good, are.
1:43:19
Speaker 3: You crazy?
1:43:22
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Too strong? Only 16 years old? His
1:43:25
Speaker 1: leg is too big. His leg has grown a lot.
1:43:28
Speaker 1: He's tall. He's going to look like the other one.
1:43:31
Speaker 1: The crazy one there. Get up, get up.
1:43:33
Speaker 3: How tall is your dad? 3.15m.
1:43:34
Speaker 1: You can play, can't you? He's 2m tall. Does your
1:43:36
Speaker 1: dad look like one of those guys who says, I
1:43:38
Speaker 1: didn't lose this match, fuck it. I'm not going to
1:43:40
Speaker 1: say anything, I'm not going to say anything. But he's
1:43:43
Speaker 1: like that. He's a lot like that.
1:43:44
Speaker 3: Does your dad charge a lot? He charged, he charged.
1:43:47
Speaker 3: Now I charge him.
1:43:49
Speaker 1: Dude, do you watch his games? No, he posts the things, bro.
1:43:53
Speaker 1: He posts. But I said, bro, what kind of guy
1:43:55
Speaker 1: is that? You didn't even participate. But it's the cast, right?
1:44:00
Speaker 1: It's the group player, obviously you're wrong. That day he
1:44:02
Speaker 1: posted the thing. That day he posted the thing. That
1:44:06
Speaker 1: he dominated the ball, played to the side, the guy
1:44:08
Speaker 1: scored the goal, he put the assist. I said, no,
1:44:09
Speaker 1: you don't do that anymore. Don't do that anymore. What's
1:44:13
Speaker 1: the point that your father most hits on your foot?
1:44:15
Speaker 1: That you say, he says like this, this here you're rambling.
1:44:17
Speaker 1: This domination here, head. It's what he has the best.
1:44:20
Speaker 1: I'm very bad with my head.
1:44:21
Speaker 3: But it's also his size, right?
1:44:23
Speaker 1: It's his size, right? But wait, I think the head
1:44:25
Speaker 1: is obvious, right? But I think it's ball time, bro. Man,
1:44:29
Speaker 1: I'm horrible with my head. Really? I'm talking about ball time,
1:44:31
Speaker 1: for God's sake. But I think head is a very
1:44:33
Speaker 1: specific thing, right, bro? Like, I have ball time, but
1:44:35
Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems that, bro, if I put
1:44:37
Speaker 1: an elastic like this to do like this, to go
1:44:38
Speaker 1: back with the head like this on the ball, it
1:44:40
Speaker 1: won't go strong the same way. It seems that the
1:44:43
Speaker 1: ball dies in the goalkeeper's hand. Some guys have a stone, right?
1:44:44
Speaker 1: Look at him, this crazy one. Head down, pa. He's
1:44:46
Speaker 1: already broken his nose too. How many times? What did
1:44:50
Speaker 1: he break? His nose. The more he went up, the
1:44:52
Speaker 1: more the goalkeeper hit his nose.
1:44:54
Speaker 3: Wow.
1:44:55
Speaker 1: Do you know what he tells his mom when he
1:44:57
Speaker 1: comes from Varza? Because Varza is crazy. Is she with him?
1:44:58
Speaker 1: Believe it, man.
1:45:01
Speaker 3: She goes to every game.
1:45:02
Speaker 1: What a key, man. So your family is 100% from
1:45:03
Speaker 1: the ball. 100%, man. 100%. My grandma, because my grandma
1:45:05
Speaker 1: can't take it anymore. But she likes it? She likes it. Man,
1:45:09
Speaker 1: that's fucking awesome. I was asking about the game. How
1:45:11
Speaker 1: was it? Did you win the game? Keep watching the television.
1:45:18
Speaker 1: I took her to England to watch the game there. Man,
1:45:20
Speaker 1: my family, everything I'm going to do, they get very nervous.
1:45:22
Speaker 1: She was crazy.
1:45:23
Speaker 3: She already had.
1:45:24
Speaker 1: No, it was the first time she traveled with me.
1:45:26
Speaker 1: She was crazy. I made the goal still. I made
1:45:28
Speaker 1: the goal still. Damn, how delicious is this, man? Enjoy, man.
1:45:32
Speaker 1: Very good, man.
1:45:32
Speaker 3: What a fuck, man.
1:45:34
Speaker 1: No, there's a family close by that supports. Because I think, man,
1:45:37
Speaker 1: I think what kills the most when we're kids, if
1:45:39
Speaker 1: we don't have this support, right? Imagine.
1:45:42
Speaker 3: Family structure.
1:45:43
Speaker 1: Being alone in another country, war, everything, like... It's fucking awesome, man.
1:45:47
Speaker 1: It is.
1:45:47
Speaker 3: You have a mind of your own. Besides the family,
1:45:49
Speaker 3: you still work as a psychologist.
1:45:51
Speaker 1: It's good, it's always good. Psychologist is good. With everything.
1:45:54
Speaker 1: Because the most difficult thing nowadays is... I came here and...
1:45:59
Speaker 1: There are people who change for money. No, no, no.
1:46:04
Speaker 1: You have money, it's something else.
1:46:06
Speaker 3: Yes.
1:46:06
Speaker 1: And then the person... As the person sees that he
1:46:09
Speaker 1: has money, the person changes the way he speaks, changes
1:46:11
Speaker 1: the way he treats people.
1:46:12
Speaker 3: The posture.
1:46:13
Speaker 1: Man, I deal with all this. But I believe that
1:46:15
Speaker 1: whoever does this is already a cusão. Like that, like that. Yeah,
1:46:20
Speaker 1: because he only had the opportunity to be. But he
1:46:22
Speaker 1: was already, right? He was already there inside of him.
1:46:24
Speaker 1: Because it's not possible, man. Obviously, I think there are
1:46:27
Speaker 1: moments of slumber, which I think is even important to slumber.
1:46:30
Speaker 1: Not to be a cusão, but to slumber, like that.
1:46:32
Speaker 3: Live some different things. Do one thing or another.
1:46:34
Speaker 1: That's why I talk to my mom. To not arrive with...
1:46:35
Speaker 1: I never had money. Now that I have, I'm just
1:46:37
Speaker 1: going to save it. But you're going to save it. No,
1:46:39
Speaker 1: I save it. But I'm not just going to save it, right?
1:46:41
Speaker 3: That's it.
1:46:41
Speaker 1: Okay, but save most of it.
1:46:43
Speaker 3: Live too. Live to have a story. If you're new,
1:46:46
Speaker 3: work hard. You have to have some different experiences to say, ah,
1:46:49
Speaker 3: it's worth it, right? I'm 23 years old, bro. Traveling
1:46:51
Speaker 3: is top, right?
1:46:52
Speaker 1: You're very young. Man, I made the trip now, top, bro.
1:46:55
Speaker 3: You went to Italy, right?
1:46:56
Speaker 1: Italy and Greece. Which one is better? I liked Greece more.
1:46:59
Speaker 3: Why?
1:46:59
Speaker 1: But Lívia liked Italy more. Man, I don't know how
1:47:02
Speaker 1: to explain, but Greece is very... Did you go to Mykonos?
1:47:05
Speaker 1: I did. Tell me, bro. I had a great time.
1:47:06
Speaker 3: It's very top, bro. I stayed at a very beautiful hotel.
1:47:11
Speaker 1: Every time there was a cruise in front of us.
1:47:14
Speaker 1: Every day there was one, two, three cruises. But I'm
1:47:16
Speaker 1: afraid of cruises too. Of war, no. Think of a
1:47:18
Speaker 1: guy with a wet butt. Me too. I'm afraid of everything. Brother,
1:47:24
Speaker 1: there was already a helicopter, anything in the sea. Brother,
1:47:31
Speaker 1: I won't do it.
1:47:32
Speaker 3: A cruise, you wouldn't do it?
1:47:34
Speaker 1: I'm a rooster, bro. I would go, I think I
1:47:38
Speaker 1: would go on a cruise.
1:47:39
Speaker 3: No?
1:47:39
Speaker 1: But I think I would go on a cruise in shock, man.
1:47:43
Speaker 1: I would go like... Me too. But in shock, man.
1:47:44
Speaker 1: Me too. You're crazy, my God, you're a young man.
1:47:46
Speaker 1: I hate toys.
1:47:47
Speaker 3: Me too.
1:47:47
Speaker 1: But no, I go to the Russian mountain.
1:47:50
Speaker 3: Airplane. Airplane. Fuck.
1:47:50
Speaker 1: I go there and go to the airplane, but I
1:47:53
Speaker 1: hate the airplane, bro.
1:47:54
Speaker 3: You never went to the Russian mountain?
1:47:55
Speaker 1: I did, by obligation. Obligation or not, right? Adultery story.
1:47:59
Speaker 1: Libes pro Antônia Pressão, da Lívia.
1:48:01
Speaker 3: What did you think? Lívia.
1:48:02
Speaker 1: Ah, bro, I'm very afraid. I almost fainted. I had
1:48:05
Speaker 1: a bad time because no seriously but you don't think
1:48:08
Speaker 1: I went once bro it depends a lot if you
1:48:11
Speaker 1: put it on your head that can be fun I
1:48:12
Speaker 1: didn't put it on mine and then I got scared
1:48:15
Speaker 1: I went to a toy bro that one there is
1:48:17
Speaker 1: not from God which one? Elevator. There at Disney. This
1:48:22
Speaker 1: one is crazy. At Disney. That one that goes down and...
1:48:25
Speaker 1: But I didn't know it was that. It's in the dark, right?
1:48:27
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that. She told me, like, no,
1:48:29
Speaker 1: it's not a cool toy. It's not a cool toy.
1:48:30
Speaker 1: And she already told you? I said, okay, so let's go.
1:48:33
Speaker 1: But when she got there, she said, like, Moscow, less worse.
1:48:36
Speaker 1: The guy said this, she said, so don't go there. No, worse. But, man,
1:48:41
Speaker 1: for me, I was still good. The moment I sat there,
1:48:43
Speaker 1: the thing, my God, the thing went up. Then it opens,
1:48:46
Speaker 1: you know?
1:48:47
Speaker 3: Yes.
1:48:47
Speaker 1: It opens the thing and you can see Disney all
1:48:49
Speaker 1: over it. I said, it's not possible, because it's going
1:48:51
Speaker 1: to fall. But the moment the thing falls, you know?
1:48:54
Speaker 1: The thing falls, it seems that my body is gone.
1:48:57
Speaker 3: I felt that I was no longer inside of me.
1:49:00
Speaker 3: And he stops and falls again.
1:49:01
Speaker 1: He falls, he falls. I'm shit. Then, when it's over,
1:49:04
Speaker 1: I also had to sit. I sat on the floor, because, man,
1:49:05
Speaker 1: I was white. I know it's hard, but I was.
1:49:07
Speaker 1: I was. I'm not afraid of anything. I like it,
1:49:11
Speaker 1: I like it.
1:49:11
Speaker 3: I like to play with this toy. Okay, no. My
1:49:13
Speaker 3: mom likes it too.
1:49:15
Speaker 1: At the amusement park, at Disney level, I risk everything
1:49:20
Speaker 1: because I don't see a chance of giving a shit. Obviously,
1:49:24
Speaker 1: I understand the fear. There are toys that I won't
1:49:26
Speaker 1: go again. But I like to go. But when I
1:49:30
Speaker 1: was a kid, I didn't go to any Play Center, nothing.
1:49:33
Speaker 1: I was the boy who held the bag of friends. Man,
1:49:35
Speaker 1: me too. Do you know which one was the Play Center?
1:49:37
Speaker 1: Do you know which one was the Play Center? The Squash.
1:49:40
Speaker 1: From the water. That's it.
1:49:41
Speaker 3: That's it.
1:49:42
Speaker 1: Just to get wet. What was that? It was like
1:49:44
Speaker 1: a thing that went up like this, but it went
1:49:46
Speaker 1: up a lot. In the wooden barrel. In the wooden barrel,
1:49:49
Speaker 1: and it went down and got wet. It went into
1:49:51
Speaker 1: the water. That's it. Me too, bro. That was my thing.
1:49:53
Speaker 1: See the others kissing, hold the bag of the friends.
1:49:55
Speaker 1: I was the producer, the hold of the guys. The
1:49:57
Speaker 1: hold of the guys. What do you need? Hold the bag?
1:49:59
Speaker 1: Guard the line? It's me. A picture? Buy the soda
1:50:01
Speaker 1: and I'll go there. But I was on the tour.
1:50:03
Speaker 1: You know my moment? Me too. I lied.
1:50:05
Speaker 3: I lied. I lied.
1:50:06
Speaker 1: I lied.
1:50:07
Speaker 3: I lied.
1:50:07
Speaker 1: I lied. I lied.
1:50:08
Speaker 3: I lied.
1:50:11
Speaker 1: Ah, you're crazy, because I kissed 32 girls. And you, Igor?
1:50:14
Speaker 1: Just there in the bathroom that I went, it was six. Lies, lies.
1:50:19
Speaker 1: I went to the cinema, I chose to go to
1:50:20
Speaker 1: the cinema. Lies. Everyone just kept lying and no one
1:50:24
Speaker 1: came out of the other side. And the worst is
1:50:26
Speaker 1: that the guy lies, he was on my side.
1:50:28
Speaker 3: Everyone knows.
1:50:29
Speaker 1: All the time, everyone knows, but you keep talking.
1:50:31
Speaker 3: God kiss.
1:50:32
Speaker 1: And he was on my side all the time.
1:50:33
Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing.
1:50:35
Speaker 1: Children are fire, man. What a longing to lie to
1:50:37
Speaker 1: the devil.
1:50:37
Speaker 3: What a longing. Not much, but also a little. You don't... Nostalgia.
1:50:43
Speaker 1: Yes, but I miss being 13 years old.
1:50:47
Speaker 3: Yes.
1:50:47
Speaker 1: My life was just soccer, from the fans, and school.
1:50:51
Speaker 1: And I complained.
1:50:53
Speaker 3: It's true, you thought it was too much.
1:50:55
Speaker 1: It's too much, I'm suffocating.
1:50:57
Speaker 3: He was 13 years old and was already in the
1:51:00
Speaker 3: soccer race.
1:51:01
Speaker 1: In the sports, right? And you?
1:51:02
Speaker 3: Eating clay.
1:51:03
Speaker 1: Each one has what they deserve. But before anything else, Italy.
1:51:07
Speaker 3: What did you think of Italy? That's good. Man, Italy
1:51:10
Speaker 3: is great.
1:51:12
Speaker 1: Very, very, very beautiful. But, like, we went, we kept imposing.
1:51:15
Speaker 1: That's what happens. There, the stuff is all too short
1:51:18
Speaker 1: to walk, right, bro? Then the stuff has to get those... Balsa? Motorbikes.
1:51:22
Speaker 1: Or a car to keep walking. Or with a balsa.
1:51:25
Speaker 1: The people used to go more with a balsa. But, man,
1:51:28
Speaker 1: it's too tight, bro. But it's very beautiful. And for eating,
1:51:31
Speaker 1: it must be top, right, bro? Man, it was all
1:51:33
Speaker 1: possible reasons. All.
1:51:34
Speaker 3: The food there is good? Yeah.
1:51:35
Speaker 1: It was all possible reasons for you to go there,
1:51:37
Speaker 1: and I went. But I prefer Grécia. Greece is very beautiful, man.
1:51:41
Speaker 1: Everything is white, it's top.
1:51:42
Speaker 3: I really want to go to Greece, man. I really
1:51:45
Speaker 3: want to. Very top. So you recommend Greece over Italy?
1:51:48
Speaker 1: It's up to the two of us, right? It's up
1:51:51
Speaker 1: to the two of us. But I prefer Greece. There
1:51:52
Speaker 1: was someone who came here and talked about Amalfi. Amalfi. Amalfi.
1:51:56
Speaker 1: You went, didn't you? It's all together. It's Positano, Amalfi, Sorrento.
1:52:01
Speaker 1: Where else? Capri. Wow, I went crazy. I said Capri
1:52:04
Speaker 1: is the best. It's all together. It was the best
1:52:07
Speaker 1: trip you've done, Mikonos?
1:52:09
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you want to go to other places?
1:52:12
Speaker 1: I want to go to Africa, Zanzibar, Tanzania, Thailand. South Africa, man.
1:52:21
Speaker 1: That's a very beautiful place. I saw it in the picture.
1:52:24
Speaker 1: I want to go to Korea. Don't say that. If
1:52:26
Speaker 1: she sees that, she'll be like... She only talks about Korea. Man,
1:52:29
Speaker 1: Korea is very cool. I've been to China. I'm crazy
1:52:32
Speaker 1: to go to China. You've been to China? I played
1:52:33
Speaker 1: in China. It was crazy.
1:52:37
Speaker 3: It was very sunny and hot.
1:52:38
Speaker 1: It was all in the morning. The game was all
1:52:40
Speaker 1: in the morning, do you believe it? Why? Because, I
1:52:42
Speaker 1: don't know, it was 9 or 10 in the morning
1:52:44
Speaker 1: and it was 50 degrees. Holy shit. And then in
1:52:46
Speaker 1: the morning it was 35.
1:52:47
Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy.
1:52:48
Speaker 1: We played a little bit and it was all sweating.
1:52:50
Speaker 1: It was crazy. The women who go to Korea, because
1:52:56
Speaker 1: in Korea there are the cream things. That's it. That's it.
1:52:58
Speaker 1: It's clothes, it's cream. That's it. That's right. She's going
1:53:06
Speaker 1: to come back with a bag full of cream.
1:53:08
Speaker 3: And say that there are the best.
1:53:09
Speaker 1: And be arrested there in the federal.
1:53:11
Speaker 3: There are the best.
1:53:12
Speaker 1: I'll leave it there. Lívia has the look of one better, brother.
1:53:14
Speaker 1: She has a clothing store. She has the look... This
1:53:15
Speaker 1: one is good for I don't know what. This one
1:53:16
Speaker 1: is good because I'm going to do this.
1:53:18
Speaker 3: It's going to be a bag just for... For products.
1:53:20
Speaker 1: If she takes one more bag just to leave, she's fucked.
1:53:22
Speaker 1: How many bags does this woman take?
1:53:25
Speaker 3: To travel to Greece, how many bags? Five. But you're
1:53:27
Speaker 3: also lazy, aren't you?
1:53:27
Speaker 1: Five bags? I'm telling you.
1:53:28
Speaker 3: It's because she has a.
1:53:30
Speaker 1: Bag just for boots. Another one just for a bag.
1:53:32
Speaker 1: Another one just for... He likes to record. When she goes,
1:53:36
Speaker 1: she takes a little to record. And then, who was
1:53:38
Speaker 1: the filmmaker?
1:53:39
Speaker 3: It was me. So, how do you deal with that, man?
1:53:42
Speaker 3: You're live, you're in the videos, you record, you.
1:53:46
Speaker 1: It's hard to record, man.
1:53:46
Speaker 3: It's hard, man.
1:53:47
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing? It's hard, man.
1:53:50
Speaker 3: It's embarrassing. Ah, but you're unrolled in front of the cameras, man.
1:53:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think I wanted to be an actor too.
1:53:56
Speaker 3: What?
1:53:57
Speaker 1: No, I think, you know... But if you had the opportunity,
1:53:59
Speaker 1: would you act? I think so. Neymar did a soap opera.
1:54:04
Speaker 1: Imagina eu na Avenida Brasil. Nossa, caralho. Mano, você assistiu
1:54:08
Speaker 1: a Avenida Brasil? Óbvio.
1:54:10
Speaker 3: Mas você é jovem. Mas é do seu tempo.
1:54:12
Speaker 1: Vocês estão achando que eu nasci ontem também?
1:54:13
Speaker 3: Não, mas você nasceu quase ontem.
1:54:15
Speaker 1: Eu assisti com a minha mãe, com o meu pai,
1:54:17
Speaker 1: com a minha avó. Sério.
1:54:18
Speaker 3: Você era bem pivetinho, mano. Ó.
1:54:21
Speaker 1: Eu assisti essa. As que eu mais gosto é essa.
1:54:23
Speaker 1: Aí eu gosto de Empregates. Empregates é bom. É... Salve Jorge.
1:54:28
Speaker 1: Essa eu não vi. And Bibi Perigosa, what's her name?
1:54:32
Speaker 1: A Força do Querer. What a soap opera, man. Wow,
1:54:34
Speaker 1: what a soap opera, man. I didn't even see how
1:54:38
Speaker 1: to cheat.
1:54:38
Speaker 3: I know that Bibi Perigosa was very successful.
1:54:41
Speaker 1: Juliana Paz, right? What a soap opera. I think it
1:54:44
Speaker 1: was better than Vida Brasil. Oh, crazy, I didn't see.
1:54:46
Speaker 3: I think it was.
1:54:47
Speaker 1: Mom, you who watched all of them, which one was better?
1:54:49
Speaker 1: Vida Brasil or Força do Querer? Bibi. Bibi?
1:54:52
Speaker 3: Damn!
1:54:53
Speaker 1: You got a lot, right? But the soap opera of
1:54:56
Speaker 1: your life, this one marked me.
1:55:01
Speaker 3: Wow, she's thinking about it.
1:55:02
Speaker 1: Think about how she watches it every day. Man, my
1:55:04
Speaker 1: name is because of the soap opera, Cigano Igor. Really?
1:55:07
Speaker 1: Explodes the heart. Good, right? Think about how she watches
1:55:13
Speaker 1: it every day. A series came out yesterday, it's over today. Brother,
1:55:16
Speaker 1: I arrived at my mother's house the other day, she
1:55:19
Speaker 1: was wearing gloves, Breaking Bad.
1:55:45
Speaker 3: Prison Break, Dexter.
1:55:46
Speaker 1: Prison Break is really good. Barrel Call Saul, I like
1:55:48
Speaker 1: it a lot too.
1:55:49
Speaker 3: Breaking Bad is really good.
1:55:50
Speaker 1: What are you watching now?
1:55:52
Speaker 3: Now?
1:55:53
Speaker 1: Copa, only. Now, seriously, I'm not watching anything. No, there's
1:55:56
Speaker 1: one that's really good. Michael's movie. The one that's really good.
1:55:59
Speaker 1: Which one? I have a kind of jealousy about it.
1:56:02
Speaker 1: Which one?
1:56:02
Speaker 3: Origin. It's really good. What is it about?
1:56:05
Speaker 1: It's mystery, terror, you know? Because it's a city that
1:56:08
Speaker 1: you kind of lost yourself. And then you go to
1:56:12
Speaker 1: an abandoned city, but this abandoned city is kind of haunted.
1:56:15
Speaker 1: And then you can only stay in the city until
1:56:18
Speaker 1: late afternoon, after the sun sets. And then there are
1:56:20
Speaker 1: monsters that pretend to be people, they keep knocking on
1:56:22
Speaker 1: your window to enter the house. Damn!
1:56:24
Speaker 3: Where does this go?
1:56:25
Speaker 1: On Globoplay. But if you open it, you already know, right?
1:56:29
Speaker 3: Origin.
1:56:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, Origin.
1:56:31
Speaker 3: Indicate others there.
1:56:32
Speaker 1: Very good.
1:56:32
Speaker 3: What is your favorite series?
1:56:34
Speaker 1: My favorite series? First, I think it's Origin.
1:56:37
Speaker 3: Damn!
1:56:37
Speaker 1: Oh, it's very good. She learns, bro. It's mystery, you know?
1:56:40
Speaker 2: Terror.
1:56:42
Speaker 1: The origin is... Let me see... Ponto Cego. Then there's
1:56:50
Speaker 1: Prison Break. The guys have to close some pubs with you, bro.
1:56:52
Speaker 1: You're doing some crazy publicity there, bro. You're eating.
1:56:54
Speaker 3: I haven't seen.
1:56:56
Speaker 1: Anything, bro, in a long time, man. Carmel, I saw it!
1:57:01
Speaker 2: Carla.
1:57:03
Speaker 1: They did the trick there, right? That's cool, bro. That's
1:57:05
Speaker 1: a lot of tea, right, bro? It's good. Man, it's cool.
1:57:08
Speaker 1: I have to explore this side too, because... I think
1:57:12
Speaker 1: you have to do what has to be done, make
1:57:15
Speaker 1: a living the way it is, obviously not disturbing your
1:57:18
Speaker 1: main goal there, but I think I like those who
1:57:20
Speaker 1: play in advertisements, those who want to make a movie,
1:57:25
Speaker 1: want to sing, you know, don't hold on, you know?
1:57:27
Speaker 3: It's cool fashion. You have this vibe of working with
1:57:31
Speaker 3: many brands, making movies, giant advertisements. It's cool to say.
1:57:37
Speaker 3: I was going to say which brand you want to
1:57:39
Speaker 3: work with, but.
1:57:39
Speaker 1: No, no.
1:57:40
Speaker 3: Leave it there, it'll come.
1:57:41
Speaker 1: You want to.
1:57:42
Speaker 3: Work with all of them, right?
1:57:44
Speaker 1: That's it.
1:57:45
Speaker 3: All of them. And favorite movie?
1:57:47
Speaker 1: Man, what a good question, man. Can I say three?
1:57:49
Speaker 3: You can.
1:57:50
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to know the why's. The best, Karate Kid. Okay.
1:57:54
Speaker 1: The story.
1:57:54
Speaker 3: Which Karate Kid?
1:57:55
Speaker 1: The one with Dre.
1:57:57
Speaker 3: The son of Will Smith?
1:57:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. Take off the coat for the coat.
1:58:00
Speaker 3: Bye, Dre. Very f * * * ed.
1:58:01
Speaker 1: The best of all. Superbation, The Miracle of Faith. Have
1:58:06
Speaker 1: you seen the guy falling from the ice? No. No.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: How not? What is that?
1:58:10
Speaker 3: Man, I'm sorry. What is this, man? How is this?
1:58:12
Speaker 1: I know you work a lot, but it's not possible
1:58:13
Speaker 1: that you haven't seen this. Overcoming... The miracle of faith.
1:58:15
Speaker 1: The miracle of faith.
1:58:17
Speaker 3: How is this?
1:58:18
Speaker 1: It's a big church thing, right? He's playing in the
1:58:19
Speaker 1: ice with his friends, and then he falls in the ice.
1:58:21
Speaker 1: He falls in the ice, in the frozen lake. And
1:58:23
Speaker 1: then the thing breaks and he falls. And then three
1:58:26
Speaker 1: guys fall. Then he's helping the guys to climb up,
1:58:30
Speaker 1: but when he does, the guy doesn't want to do
1:58:32
Speaker 1: the push-ups, he gets the kick in his face, you know?
1:58:36
Speaker 1: And he goes down. He stayed, I think, 17 minutes
1:58:38
Speaker 1: under water.
1:58:40
Speaker 3: Frozen.
1:58:40
Speaker 1: Then the guys went to look for him, they found
1:58:42
Speaker 1: him already dead. Then I won't need to see the movie, right? You're...
1:58:48
Speaker 1: You're already at the end of the movie.
1:58:51
Speaker 3: No, go! No, no, but.
1:58:54
Speaker 1: Man, my dad is like this. He kicked his head,
1:58:58
Speaker 1: turned 17, got killed, and that's it. But in the end,
1:59:01
Speaker 1: it was a dream.
1:59:06
Speaker 3: What's the third movie, then? Gigantic.
1:59:08
Speaker 1: I didn't see it either, man.
1:59:11
Speaker 3: Is it the same actor as Wolverine?
1:59:13
Speaker 1: No, it's from Robô.
1:59:14
Speaker 3: So it is, but who's the actor? Isn't it the
1:59:16
Speaker 3: one who made Wolverine? Ah, I don't remember.
1:59:19
Speaker 1: It's Hugh Jackman.
1:59:20
Speaker 3: This movie is awesome. Top, right?
1:59:22
Speaker 1: Top.
1:59:23
Speaker 3: This movie is awesome.
1:59:24
Speaker 1: Flamengo, can I finish? I've already started, right? Please. And then,
1:59:26
Speaker 1: when he gets to the hospital, his mother makes a prayer, bro.
1:59:31
Speaker 1: He returns to life, but he gets hospitalized in a coma,
1:59:33
Speaker 1: you know? Like, very weak. Then the story of the
1:59:37
Speaker 1: movie stays in that. I didn't say everything about the movie.
1:59:40
Speaker 3: No, no.
1:59:40
Speaker 1: You can see. You can see. Just skip the beginning. Skip,
1:59:43
Speaker 1: I don't know. 40 minutes. Start at minute 41. Da hora,
1:59:47
Speaker 1: da hora. Então o Karate Kid é o que tem
1:59:48
Speaker 1: apego emocional ali, né? Ah, é meu xodó. Você tem
1:59:52
Speaker 1: um filme de xodó, Mítico?
1:59:54
Speaker 3: As Branquelas. Top.
1:59:56
Speaker 1: O meu é Tarzan.
1:59:57
Speaker 3: Tarzan?
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Speaker 1: Você parece um pouco ele. Caralho, caralho, não preciso receber
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Speaker 1: mais nenhum elogio na minha vida. E de herói, assim,
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Speaker 1: tem algum herói que você gosta muito? Tarzan, caralho, aquele
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Speaker 1: é o herói. E você? Sem poderes, né?
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Speaker 3: Homem-Aranha.
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Speaker 1: Não, Homem-Aranha não dá. É o melhor. Not Batman.
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Speaker 3: This guy always criticizes Batman.
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Speaker 1: Seriously, don't talk about Batman or Neymar.
2:00:17
Speaker 3: He talks about... But you talk.
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Speaker 1: About Batman and Neymar. You have your shoes, your tattoos, chains, paintings.
2:00:25
Speaker 3: Chains? I do.
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Speaker 1: I get mad at Batman, bro. You'll understand my point.
2:00:29
Speaker 1: Why not? Let's discuss.
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Speaker 3: He talks about it since the beginning of the podcast.
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Speaker 3: Let's discuss.
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Speaker 1: Spider-Man is Brazilian, you know? Spider-Man lost his parents. Batman too.
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Speaker 1: Calm down. No, let's point it out. No, now I
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Speaker 1: got angry too. Spider-Man lost his parents, lives with his uncles,
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Speaker 1: kills his uncles. The guy is Spider-Man, but he still
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Speaker 1: delivers some pizzas. Go fuck yourself. The guy is a runaway. Photographer.
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Speaker 1: Fucking photographer. The girl he likes, stays with the other guy.
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Speaker 3: The guy just gets mad. Then you like who gets mad?
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Speaker 1: Because it's the overcoming. Then you'll see Batman. Look, I'm
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Speaker 1: a billionaire who fights karate. Okay, but then there's his series,
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Speaker 1: there's Gotham. Which is another series, also very top. I'll
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Speaker 1: show you his entire story. One day he was there
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Speaker 1: with his father and his mother, putting in the cinema,
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Speaker 1: the two died. Then the guy pointed the gun at him,
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Speaker 1: but he didn't kill him. And then he was alone,
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Speaker 1: only him and his murderer, Walfred. And then what happened?
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Speaker 1: Until he came... You know, Mando has a Mordomo. He's
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Speaker 1: already in front of Spider-Man. You didn't want a Mordomo,
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Speaker 1: did you? I wanted one. I wanted one. But then, like,
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Speaker 1: at the time of equating, you say, oh, Igão had
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Speaker 1: a Mordomo and Kevin didn't. For me, you have much
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Speaker 1: more merit. But then, there you go, bro. He turned
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Speaker 1: because he wanted to. One day he went there and
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Speaker 1: changed his mind. He said, no, now I'm going to
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Speaker 1: save the city. I don't respect Batman. I don't respect Spider-Man.
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Speaker 1: I don't respect Batman. The Batman, the most famous guy
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Speaker 1: in the movie is the villain. Ah, Batman, look at that.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. What inspired Bruce to.
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Speaker 3: Become a hero? In Italy, people like the.
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Speaker 1: Joker more, you know? I doubt it. I doubt it too.
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Speaker 1: Why did he want to become a fucking hero?
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Speaker 3: It's because, like.
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Speaker 1: He grew up in the city and saw everyone stealing
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Speaker 1: his heritage, you know? And then he went on a
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Speaker 1: course of... How can I say it? A fight to
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Speaker 1: protect himself. Self-defense. Yeah, self-defense. And then he fell in
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Speaker 1: love with the Catwoman, which she also stole. And then
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Speaker 1: he went there and the time was gone and the
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Speaker 1: city became chaos. Then he became Batman. Ah, mythical.
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Speaker 3: I like Batman. Not so much like Spider-Man. You can't
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Speaker 3: put one against the other.
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Speaker 1: Ah, I want, bro. I want intrigue, bro. Okay, he's
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Speaker 1: talking about Spider-Man and Batman, but he didn't even talk
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Speaker 1: about Tarzan. This crap. Tarzan is a monster. And say
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Speaker 1: what he does. Jumping from branch to branch. Oh, brother!
2:02:48
Speaker 1: He slides! He slides, at least. He jumps on the trees.
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Speaker 3: For me, Aquaman is.
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Speaker 1: Better than Tarzan.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Stolen. Taking Aquaman out of the water, he's a nothing.
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Speaker 1: I doubt it. He's a nothing. I doubt it. What
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Speaker 1: does Aquaman do out of the water? He's a nothing.
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Speaker 3: He beats everyone. Look at his big mouth. He's just.
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Speaker 1: Out of the water, he's just... Tarzan is a monster, man.
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Speaker 1: Tarzan was abandoned. He survived the jungle. You're talking about
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Speaker 1: the guy who stayed 17 minutes underwater. The guy stayed
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Speaker 1: alive in the jungle in Africa. There's the archer. Another
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Speaker 1: series that stayed like this. The archer is good. Right?
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Speaker 1: The archer is better than Tarzan. Calm down. The archer
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Speaker 1: is good. Man, the series is really good. You don't
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Speaker 1: cry with the archer's song. When Tarzan plays, everyone cries here.
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Speaker 1: Stop it. You're crazy.
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Speaker 3: Cry, cry.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of Tarzan?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Did you cry? It's cool, but it's not all that.
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Speaker 1: For me, César gives more emotion than Tarzan. It's because
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Speaker 1: you're young, man. When you arrived, Pixar had already done
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Speaker 1: a lot for you. We still had to content ourselves with...
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Speaker 1: Sing the Tarzan song. In my time, it wasn't like that.
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Speaker 3: I want to cry, man. Stop crying.
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Speaker 1: It's from Mota. No, but it's from Mota. The guy
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Speaker 1: killed a jaguar, man.
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Speaker 3: You're crazy, Kevin.
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Speaker 1: You're crazy, man. Seriously. The guy killed a.
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Speaker 3: Bear with his own hands, man. True. No, I love Tazano.
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Speaker 3: He walks like this.
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Speaker 1: You know? Damn. He forces too. It's normal. It was not?
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Speaker 1: It's that he wanted to be the best monkey, man.
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Speaker 1: That's what you had to understand.
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Speaker 3: He wanted to have the, you know, the gorilla.
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Speaker 1: No, now seriously.
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Speaker 3: I've seen César.
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Speaker 1: The monkey's plate. Already? Already. I like the meme. That
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Speaker 1: the monkey comes to the ear and says, César, give me.
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Speaker 1: But there are many, right?
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Speaker 3: There are four.
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Speaker 1: Four Caesars?
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Speaker 3: Four.
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Speaker 1: Man, I got home.
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Speaker 3: Who? Cesar Paz? Cesar Junior?
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. Planet of the Monkeys has
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Speaker 1: four movies.
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Speaker 3: Four movies. Oh, okay.
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Speaker 1: But it was good.
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Speaker 3: I said, four Cesar, four.
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Speaker 1: Man, the first time I saw this movie, I just
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Speaker 1: got home, I saw some monkeys talking and my father
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Speaker 1: crying a lot, man.
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Speaker 3: It's too good.
2:05:01
Speaker 1: Crying a lot, like... Man, Lívia cried a lot on
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Speaker 1: the plane. I asked her to watch this movie. She
2:05:06
Speaker 1: cried a lot, I thought something had happened. Animal, it
2:05:08
Speaker 1: was fucking, man. But she cried from sobbing, you know,
2:05:11
Speaker 1: from sobbing. I said, man, what is this?
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Speaker 3: Which one did she watch?
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Speaker 1: The first one.
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Speaker 3: The first one?
2:05:15
Speaker 1: You can't explain it. Because then you lose his mother there.
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Speaker 1: It's great, but.
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Speaker 3: You're so good at telling movie plots.
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Speaker 1: I've already told the whole movie. I started and finished.
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Speaker 1: But you have to see. I went there to watch
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Speaker 1: such and such. It's like this, like this, like this.
2:05:30
Speaker 3: Like this. Go there. You have to tell the plots
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Speaker 3: of the movies. You know how to tell.
2:05:33
Speaker 1: I'll do that TikTok video. You know?
2:05:36
Speaker 3: The videos like this.
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Speaker 1: Watch this movie here, I don't know what else, you've
2:05:41
Speaker 1: never seen it. A movie, so the guy explaining, do that.
2:05:45
Speaker 1: I like to review, like, 25 defects that you didn't
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Speaker 1: notice in Spider-Man 3. I love this. And then show
2:05:51
Speaker 1: the wrong things. Yeah, what a mistake, continuity and stuff. But,
2:05:55
Speaker 1: coming back here.
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Speaker 3: No, good, good, conversation, good. The Batman is.
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Speaker 1: What? You're going to say bad things about Batman, I'm
2:06:04
Speaker 1: going to say bad things about Tarzan. No, dude. It's
2:06:07
Speaker 1: like this, man. Tarzan is from another era, right? But
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Speaker 1: there was no technology, right, man? It's like... Batman also
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Speaker 1: didn't have technology, he created it.
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Speaker 3: Ah, wait a minute. He created it, he only had
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Speaker 3: money and sent someone to do it. Thanks.
2:06:18
Speaker 1: Thanks, man.
2:06:20
Speaker 3: Calm down.
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Speaker 1: Ah, he made a hero who did something. Who was it? Miles?
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Speaker 1: Miles created the technology of the hero. It was Miles,
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Speaker 1: wasn't it? Spider-Man is a real hero. He comes out of...
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Speaker 1: You know? From here.
2:06:31
Speaker 3: But Batman is awesome too. You also know where you are.
2:06:36
Speaker 1: You're on top of the world. I'm half and half.
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Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm the guy who comes to.
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Speaker 3: Batman is awesome. I need to watch the last one from... Spider-Man?
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Speaker 3: The one that did Robert Spets.
2:06:44
Speaker 1: Spider-Man?
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Speaker 3: No, Batman. Watch them all, bro.
2:06:55
Speaker 1: The youngest, the beginning. I haven't watched this one yet. Game, movie, series, everything.
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Speaker 1: The game is f * * * ing awesome. It's
2:07:01
Speaker 1: the Knight of the Darkness. The Batman game is the
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Speaker 1: best possible game. It's the movie I like. It's the
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Speaker 1: best one. It has Schwarzenegger, Charada. The poisonous one. It's
2:07:13
Speaker 1: the ice one.
2:07:13
Speaker 3: There's a Dick Harry one too.
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Speaker 1: It's Charada. It's that one. F * * * ing awesome, right?
2:07:22
Speaker 3: What game?
2:07:22
Speaker 1: The best one, the one from Play 2. Play 2, Black. Man,
2:07:25
Speaker 1: I was born yesterday, like you said. But with the
2:07:28
Speaker 1: 96 chip, right? You know. Your dad is a video gamer, right?
2:07:32
Speaker 3: But he loses to me in the stuff.
2:07:34
Speaker 1: You know, resentful. You have to respect the guys. You know, resentful.
2:07:39
Speaker 2: I know.
2:07:39
Speaker 1: He launched the last one now. What's the name, dad,
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Speaker 1: of the game?
2:07:41
Speaker 3: That launched the last one?
2:07:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, Requiem. Then we would play him from here or
2:07:53
Speaker 1: from there, to see who finished first. But have you
2:07:55
Speaker 1: ever played Resident Evil, the one that starts inside the
2:07:57
Speaker 1: house and then Veia comes to you? I almost cried
2:07:59
Speaker 1: playing it. We played it with the glasses, man. We
2:08:01
Speaker 1: played it with the virtual reality glasses there. What's the name?
2:08:03
Speaker 1: It's VR. It's VR, we played with these glasses there.
2:08:06
Speaker 1: So I played with this thing, with Júlio Mítico, I'm
2:08:08
Speaker 1: not kidding. I wanted to cry, man, of agony. Desperation. Desperation, man.
2:08:13
Speaker 1: It's scary. Veia came, I didn't hit her, I said, stop, stop, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to play, man. And he came with
2:08:18
Speaker 1: my arm, I don't know what the fuck it is,
2:08:19
Speaker 1: I said, Deus me livre, mano. Nós jogou todos, mano.
2:08:21
Speaker 1: Já jogou Silent Hill, esse jogo assim, de louco? Não,
2:08:24
Speaker 1: acho que não.
2:08:24
Speaker 3: Mano, recentemente eu joguei 007. Tá muito bom, mano.
2:08:28
Speaker 1: Vai lançar o filme do Wolverine e Bala aí, que
2:08:30
Speaker 1: eu vi todo mundo falando, é.
2:08:32
Speaker 3: Muito foda.
2:08:32
Speaker 1: Bem parecido com o do Batman. Sabe o jogo que
2:08:33
Speaker 1: é muito top? Tell Us Your Fans. Ah, porra, aí sim.
2:08:36
Speaker 3: Meu Deus.
2:08:37
Speaker 1: Vocês leram os dois? Acho que 50 vezes cada um.
2:08:40
Speaker 1: Which one do you like the most? You cried.
2:08:42
Speaker 3: I cried playing. It's very bad when the.
2:08:43
Speaker 1: Other one dies, right? I cried a lot, not wanting
2:08:45
Speaker 1: to cry, you know? When he dies. Nothing, there's that
2:08:47
Speaker 1: scene where they look from.
2:08:49
Speaker 3: Above, I almost cried a lot. What gets me is
2:08:51
Speaker 3: when she leaves the violin like.
2:08:53
Speaker 1: This, in the little window outside. If I were to say,
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Speaker 1: there are several parts, but the ending is also awesome, right?
2:09:02
Speaker 1: When she gets there, she's without a finger. But I
2:09:06
Speaker 1: think I like the story of 1 the most.
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Speaker 3: Me too.
2:09:10
Speaker 1: The story is the story, but playing the two is crazier.
2:09:14
Speaker 1: But the story, the plot.
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Speaker 3: What other games have you played?
2:09:17
Speaker 1: Let me see. The Telethon Fuzz is the first, Batman
2:09:21
Speaker 1: is the second, and the Spider-Man game is really good, bro.
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Speaker 1: One or two? Both. Both are really good. I would
2:09:26
Speaker 1: say only the first.
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Speaker 3: The second game is even better, bro.
2:09:31
Speaker 1: Really?
2:09:31
Speaker 3: It's really f * * * ing good.
2:09:32
Speaker 1: The Silent Place. Very good too. What is that?
2:09:35
Speaker 3: It's a game, but there's.
2:09:38
Speaker 1: Also a movie. You can't make noise. It's like... Bird Box, right? Yeah.
2:09:43
Speaker 1: You can't make noise. But from what I've seen, you
2:09:46
Speaker 1: can't make any noise. Mitty, do you remember Silent Hill
2:09:48
Speaker 1: that was banned? Was it Silent Hill? It was in
2:09:51
Speaker 1: a corridor. The game was in a corridor. Do you
2:09:53
Speaker 1: remember what game it was, Alex? It was Silent Hill, right? Outlast.
2:09:58
Speaker 3: Outlast.
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Speaker 1: It was banned in many countries, bro. Because it gave
2:10:02
Speaker 1: a tense fear. Psychological terror. Yeah, yeah. Have you watched Hereditary?
2:10:07
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about it. No. Yeah, horror movies are
2:10:11
Speaker 1: really good. Really? You like them a lot? I get
2:10:12
Speaker 1: pissed off. I love horror movies.
2:10:14
Speaker 3: What's your favorite horror movie? Man, there's a lot.
2:10:16
Speaker 1: That's why I like Origins a lot, because it's a
2:10:19
Speaker 1: lot of horror too. Let me see. I saw one
2:10:22
Speaker 1: that scared me, it was that... Never Say Your Name
2:10:25
Speaker 1: is also really good. Mansion of the Residential Hill, that one.
2:10:29
Speaker 1: The one that scared me the most, just so you know,
2:10:30
Speaker 1: was Monster House. I didn't see that one. Man, you
2:10:33
Speaker 1: didn't see anything either.
2:10:35
Speaker 3: Have you seen Exorcist?
2:10:36
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:10:37
Speaker 3: I'm from that era.
2:10:38
Speaker 1: Emily Rose. Yes, yes.
2:10:40
Speaker 3: Those things gave me the creeps.
2:10:42
Speaker 1: I thought... Those things, yes. Bro, but after I met 6x1,
2:10:44
Speaker 1: it was crazy, man. You can't watch anything else. But
2:10:47
Speaker 1: I watch a lot of movies because of concentration. Yeah? Concentration, travel,
2:10:50
Speaker 1: I watch a lot of movies because of that.
2:10:52
Speaker 3: It's good.
2:10:54
Speaker 1: No, it's fucking good. I miss when I... A movie
2:10:58
Speaker 1: would catch me. I'm addicted to cell phones, man. What
2:11:01
Speaker 1: the fuck is this?
2:11:02
Speaker 3: TikTok, right? You use TikTok?
2:11:04
Speaker 1: I'm good. I like to dance, it's cool. Ah, Lívia
2:11:07
Speaker 1: was complaining about this the other day. A great hook
2:11:11
Speaker 1: you gave me. I want to stay without a shirt there. No,
2:11:14
Speaker 1: I paid for everything. Throw the oil on the body,
2:11:17
Speaker 1: start dancing. Yeah, because I'm kind of strong, you know?
2:11:20
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. But I like to dance, man. I like
2:11:24
Speaker 1: to keep dancing. Make videos like that.
2:11:25
Speaker 3: That was wonderful. For me, I like to dance, man. Honey,
2:11:27
Speaker 3: it's because I like to dance.
2:11:28
Speaker 1: You're a loose guy, right, bro?
2:11:31
Speaker 3: You're a loose guy.
2:11:32
Speaker 1: Stop, stop, stop now. I only have video with her now,
2:11:35
Speaker 1: because she was cursing me.
2:11:36
Speaker 3: What's that? It's a man.
2:11:38
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding. She wasn't cursing me, I stopped. A
2:11:39
Speaker 1: man who knows is a good man to be with. Yeah, right?
2:11:43
Speaker 3: Yes, yes. It has to be.
2:11:45
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy participating in Podpah today, brother? Top, top.
2:11:49
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to be here, right?
2:11:50
Speaker 3: Thank you, man, for that. You're a really cool guy, man.
2:11:52
Speaker 3: Charisma of... Communicates very well. Cool, man.
2:11:55
Speaker 1: What a cool person you are, brother. If you're around...
2:11:57
Speaker 1: Give a salve. Or you see a.
2:11:58
Speaker 3: Guest that's sticking here, stick with us. You know, your
2:12:04
Speaker 3: wife has a show here, right, bro? I've seen her show.
2:12:06
Speaker 1: I was on the couch. I saw. He once sent
2:12:08
Speaker 1: some roses to her here, locked everything, the company. Chave, bro, awesome, awesome.
2:12:12
Speaker 1: It's very nice to see this relationship between you two.
2:12:16
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for you, bro. Both for the couple, both.
2:12:17
Speaker 3: For your family. Wonderful, bro. And now, we already know
2:12:20
Speaker 3: each other, bro.
2:12:21
Speaker 1: Anything you want to touch, if you're here, give us
2:12:24
Speaker 1: a shout, bro. For us to go, be Kings League,
2:12:26
Speaker 1: there in Zima. When do you put Kings League? Bro,
2:12:29
Speaker 1: now there's going to be the Cup, next month, right? Yeah. August?
2:12:33
Speaker 1: It has to be when I'm not here, for God's sake. No,
2:12:34
Speaker 1: but it's going to be the World Cup, right? It's
2:12:35
Speaker 1: going to be the World Cup in Italy, and then
2:12:36
Speaker 1: it comes back in September.
2:12:37
Speaker 3: October, right?
2:12:37
Speaker 1: It's like that. It has to be when I'm not here,
2:12:40
Speaker 1: for God's sake. No, but it's going to be the
2:12:41
Speaker 1: World Cup, right? It's going to be the World Cup
2:12:44
Speaker 1: in Italy, and then it comes back in September, October, right?
2:12:46
Speaker 1: It has to be when I'm not here, for God's sake.
2:12:48
Speaker 3: No, but it's going to be the.
2:12:49
Speaker 1: World Cup in Italy, right? It has to be when
2:12:50
Speaker 1: I'm not here, for God's sake. No, but it's going
2:12:52
Speaker 1: to be the World Cup in Italy, right? It has
2:12:54
Speaker 1: to be when I'm not here, for God's sake. No,
2:12:55
Speaker 1: but it's going to be the World Cup in Italy, right?
2:12:58
Speaker 1: It has to be when I'm not here, for God's sake. No,
2:13:00
Speaker 1: but it's Man, this Xavi, this attack. Man, he's very good.
2:13:04
Speaker 3: He's very good.
2:13:05
Speaker 1: He's very good. But there are some guys, like... Man,
2:13:09
Speaker 1: that I'm in love to see playing.
2:13:10
Speaker 3: Who?
2:13:11
Speaker 1: Davizinho. Davilar is a lot of ball, right, man? Very good.
2:13:14
Speaker 1: Decides a lot the game. Lama S. Very... Man, Davizinho is...
2:13:18
Speaker 1: For me, he's the most. You're crazy. Davizinho, I like
2:13:21
Speaker 1: a lot of the finger. I like a lot of who?
2:13:24
Speaker 1: Of Lelete. Because FURIA also... Hugged everyone, right? Hugged everyone
2:13:27
Speaker 1: for him, just. Brother, the guys... There's Neymar. Besides having
2:13:33
Speaker 1: a little bit of money... People want to be there, right?
2:13:39
Speaker 3: You don't even need it.
2:13:40
Speaker 1: If he comes and you say... Obviously, you're a professional,
2:13:43
Speaker 1: but if he were a Kings League player, he'd say,
2:13:46
Speaker 1: do you want to come to FURIA? Imagine. You already were.
2:13:51
Speaker 1: There's no way, right? He has the.
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Speaker 3: He has the AIS.
2:13:54
Speaker 1: He has the AIS of the cup in his pocket.
2:13:58
Speaker 1: Did you like it, brother?
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Speaker 2: Top.
2:13:59
Speaker 1: This is crazy. I wanted to come here. If you
2:14:01
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2:14:05
Speaker 1: Especially Kevin. It will be in the description of his Instagram.
2:14:07
Speaker 1: Follow him on all social media. Follow him on TikTok.
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Speaker 1: Follow him everywhere. And also, if you have the opportunity
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Speaker 1: one day to go to a game in England.
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Speaker 3: You who live in England. There must be people there.
2:14:18
Speaker 1: For sure. You are world, brother. You are spectacular, man.
2:14:22
Speaker 1: I can't think of words to talk about the mythical.
2:14:24
Speaker 1: You're crazy. And guys, comment there, man. If you're Batman
2:14:28
Speaker 1: or Spider-Man... No, better, Tarzan or Batman? I want to
2:14:30
Speaker 1: see Tarzan... If Batman loses, we'll bet something here now.
2:14:34
Speaker 1: If Batman loses to Tarzan... Man, what do you want?
2:14:37
Speaker 1: Calm down, man. What do you want? Let's bet here?
2:14:40
Speaker 1: If Batman loses to Tarzan, I want a signed shirt
2:14:43
Speaker 1: of yours. You can even choose the color.
2:14:45
Speaker 3: Black.
2:14:46
Speaker 1: I'm not promising anything. Let's promise something. What do you want? No,
2:14:54
Speaker 1: we won't see it later. That's what's cool, because Batman is...
2:14:58
Speaker 1: You press it and then you'll see it. You'll see
2:15:01
Speaker 1: it later. He'll say, like, Igão, send those 40,000 reais.
2:15:04
Speaker 3: He won't say anything, but you're fucked.
2:15:07
Speaker 1: If Batman loses to Tarzan... I trust the guys from
2:15:09
Speaker 1: the jungle, man. From Safari, from Africa, please help me, man.
2:15:13
Speaker 1: You guys who lived in 96, man, right? Batman is playboy.
2:15:19
Speaker 1: We're together, subscribe to the channel, follow Kevin on all
2:15:22
Speaker 1: social media, follow me, follow Mítico. We're heading to 10
2:15:24
Speaker 1: million subscribers, there's very little left for us to reach
2:15:27
Speaker 1: this goal, and that's it. We're together, Mítico Jovem, do
2:15:29
Speaker 1: the honors.
2:15:30
Speaker 3: We're together, do you want to say one last thing
2:15:31
Speaker 3: before you put your foot down.
2:15:33
Speaker 1: My beautiful boy? Look, whoever wants to play Free Fire
2:15:36
Speaker 1: with me bet, it's from R $ 5 to above. Yes.
2:15:39
Speaker 3: It's guaranteed, right?
2:15:41
Speaker 1: Always.
2:15:42
Speaker 3: We're together, guys. It's us, dignity already. Kisses. Thank you.
2:15:46
Speaker 1: Good, man. Very cool. Pass the ball, Capu! I'm alone.
2:15:57
Speaker 1: Pass the ball, Kikfu! Pass the ball, Capu!
2:16:08
Speaker 3: I'm going crazy, man!
2:16:10
Speaker 1: That's why I have the beast! Now leave the faults
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Speaker 1: with me. You've arrived at Passa Bola. Call three friends,
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Speaker 1: play in a group and for free. Together you can
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Speaker 1: take more than a million reais. Call yours. Superbet. You
2:16:20
Speaker 1: feel when it's super. Who is my most beautiful gun
2:16:34
Speaker 1: in this world? Who is my gun?
2:16:35
Speaker 2: If I were there, I would hold your hand and
2:16:37
Speaker 2: turn you in the same way as the old men.
2:16:39
Speaker 1: She looked at herself with closed eyes and kind of
2:16:43
Speaker 1: believed she was in the country of wonders.
2:16:47
Speaker 2: A new world.
2:16:47
Speaker 3: Awaits you in Audiolibro.
2:16:50
Speaker 1: Audiolibro.