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- 0:05[SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to the IU report with Grant Shouse and Mike Hutzl, every Tuesday on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
- 0:20[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, IU fans special edition of the IU report Grant Shouse, Mike Hutzl.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_02]: Mike, uh, pretty big week for Indiana Football, got the spring game this week.
- 0:31[SPEAKER_02]: on Thursday which will coincide with the first round of the NFL draft where, of course, it's no secret we all know that
- 0:41[SPEAKER_02]: uh... Fernando Mendoza is likely to go number one overall in the draft to the lost biggest raiders uh... that pick will be announced probably about eight fifteen maybe ten after eight around when the spring game kicks off and uh... they've already announced that they will show that up on the video board at memorial stadium so cool opportunity for fans to be in the stadium to see Fernando Mendoza
- 1:09[SPEAKER_02]: probably go number one overall in the draft and we got some more draft stuff to talk about with other guys projected to go where and we know that Fernanda is probably going number one.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_02]: Mel Kiper has Omar Cooper Jr going 16th to the Jets and round one.
- 1:29[SPEAKER_02]: And then also around two pick DLA ramps with the 61st fix projected to select the Angelopon.
- 1:38[SPEAKER_02]: So those are some of the first and the first three rounds I'm curious if Mike you've seen anything else.
- 1:44[SPEAKER_02]: You know, guys like Elijah Sirad or Aiden Fisher, those kind of guys on where they could get drafted.
- 1:49[SPEAKER_01]: Well, uh, first of all, I just want to start out by saying like this is like the final moment of moments that we never thought we'd see as Indiana fans.
- 1:57[SPEAKER_01]: We thought we'd never see Indiana play in the big tin title game and they did.
- 2:01[SPEAKER_01]: We thought they'd never see Indiana play in the Rose Bowl and they did.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_01]: We never thought we'd see Indiana.
- 2:07[SPEAKER_01]: win a national title in football and they did and now we never thought we'd see a high-spin winner well guess what we did and now there's we never thought we were going to see the number one pick in the NFL draft on a Thursday night on ESPN being Indiana Hoosier and guess what Thursday night the number one pick in the NFL drafts going to be Indiana Hoosier and what a baller move by
- 2:32[SPEAKER_01]: the coaching staff to have your spring game.
- 2:34[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, guys, we're going to take a little break here.
- 2:36[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to turn that TV on and we're going to watch our guy get taken number one overall in the NFL draft.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there's any recruits that are here that are paying attention.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_01]: You might want to might want to watch that screen right now.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_01]: Just just wild.
- 2:54[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really curious.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's pretty safe to say that
- 2:59[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a betting guy.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_01]: I like over under projections.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty simple to say, Indiana is going to have the over.
- 3:06[SPEAKER_01]: If you did a one and a half in the first round, but I'm curious if for the first two days of the draft, if we set an over under a three and a half, if we'll get there, I think we will.
- 3:19[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to see Serrat come off the board in the third round.
- 3:24[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have
- 3:27[SPEAKER_01]: any firm reason for that.
- 3:28[SPEAKER_01]: I think just it's a good receiver draft, but he is maybe the most physical receiver in this draft.
- 3:35[SPEAKER_01]: And it seems like a guy that like hitsburg would love to get their hands on because they don't have a number two to go with DK Metcalfs.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_01]: And there's all the signetti ties to Pittsburgh and and all that.
- 3:50[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is a Pennsylvania kid.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_01]: on top of it all, or at least he'd play at one point in his career in Pennsylvania.
- 3:56[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like a good fit, and that's just me throwing it out there.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_01]: Any team, the cults, would love to have that guy in the third, fourth round, if he was single-covered last year, he was almost impossible.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_01]: His ability to make contested catches,
- 4:15[SPEAKER_01]: is going to project very well in the NFL.
- 4:18[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you watch the Oregon game, they were just abusing the corners to second Oregon game, or really the first one you got the game when you touched on on a back shoulder, but they were just abusing Oregon's corners, going at him one on one, and him just bullying the corner to make the cut.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_01]: So I think you'll see him be at least a day two pick.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, you've got Aiden Fisher
- 4:45[SPEAKER_01]: Roman Himbee and Keylon Black and Mikhail Kamara, where are those guys gonna come off the board?
- 4:50[SPEAKER_01]: That's Pat Kugin.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_01]: That's gonna be really, that's, those are all probably all day three guys, but this is a lot more Indian players than we ever talk about in the NFL draft.
- 5:01[SPEAKER_01]: And it's fun to go into this event, which I love, it's one of my favorite events in the year, and I've got even more of a reason to watch it this year with these IU guys coming off the board.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you mentioned Serat and how much of a physical receiver he is and, you know, you make mention to both Oregon games on how huge he was in that game, even the Ohio State game in the Big Ten Championship.
- 5:28[SPEAKER_02]: He was huge in that game as well.
- 5:29[SPEAKER_02]: But Omar Cooper, your other wide receiver, your other all American caliber, wide receiver going in the first
- 5:42[SPEAKER_02]: I remember when he was in high school at Lawrence North and I remember him in the Tom Allen days, did you ever think that Mike you would see him potentially and probably be a first round draft pick in the NFL draft in like 2023 and but Tom Allen and then it's a pretty simple yes or no it's a no and it speaks a just so much
- 6:11[SPEAKER_01]: their ability to to get the most out of guys, but if you watch him, he is just so shifty and so difficult to tackle once he gets the ball in space.
- 6:24[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't see that the first couple of years that he was at IU.
- 6:30[SPEAKER_01]: So credit to the kid for, you know, continuing to improve credit to Indiana for getting the most out of this guy and
- 6:38[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty simple.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_01]: No, I never, when they signed him out of Lawrence and Ours, if you told me, this guy is going to be a top 20, top 25 pick in the NFL draft after, you know, four years.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_01]: Make the greatest catch in the history of the program.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_01]: No, I probably would have been like, okay, yeah, but I want, I want a little bit of whatever you've got going on there.
- 7:04[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it's in gummy form, but
- 7:06[SPEAKER_02]: You make the greatest catch in the history of the program.
- 7:09[SPEAKER_02]: You make the great, you make the catch of the year in the sport.
- 7:13[SPEAKER_02]: The last week or so, I've gone back and I've watched, not probably the entirety of games from this past year, but I've watched bits and pieces, and that's the play I keep going back to, you know, like your season hangs in the balance, not really in the season
- 7:37[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they're in that moment and you mentioned the footwork he has the technique that has been taught and has been coached by the staff over the last couple years.
- 7:50[SPEAKER_02]: It's impressive.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure there's been a team.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say in college football because there certainly has, but there's not there's certainly never been an Indiana team that's been taught the technique and the kind of the way to move your feet and move without the ball and and to block, you know, to be a run pass blocker that those kind of things those things have never I don't think really been taught prior to.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_02]: the staff and it certainly has been proven with guys like Omar Cooper and even guys like Danjalo Pond who again, according to Mel Kiper who who knows how much he knows.
- 8:32[SPEAKER_02]: According to Mel Kiper is supposed to be
- 8:36[SPEAKER_02]: a second round pick to the LA Rams.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_02]: He's also another guy that, you know, JMU guy came over, stuck with it, played a pivotal role.
- 8:45[SPEAKER_02]: Probably, I don't know if this is a stretch.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_02]: You've watched it longer than I have Mike, but probably could go down as maybe one of, if not the best defensive back in the history of the program at Indiana, would you agree?
- 9:00[SPEAKER_01]: Tracy Porter was awfully dug on good, and he had a heck of a pro career,
- 9:06[SPEAKER_01]: When I won't bring up with Greg on the line against the Colts and Super Bowl, but I hate his name.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_01]: Ponds is out there and if Ponds was 6-1, we'd be talking about him in the top 15.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that's keeping that guy out of the first round is his height.
- 9:22[SPEAKER_01]: And if you doubt that guy, that's on you because yeah, he's little.
- 9:30[SPEAKER_01]: short, but he's physical is any corner of watching college football last year, and he's got incredible ball skills.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he saw it in the Oregon game.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_01]: First play the game.
- 9:42[SPEAKER_01]: Probably the the most memorable play.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_01]: of the top three, most memorable plays of the season is when he jumps that first play of the game in the Oregon game, so they'll unbelievable by the way, every time I watch it.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_01]: Just the lie.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the loudest I've ever been in a sporting event, just surreal to be a part of that.
- 10:04[SPEAKER_01]: But at 6-1, he's a top 15 pick.
- 10:09[SPEAKER_01]: I still think there's a world in which he could sneak in.
- 10:17[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be an early day to pick.
- 10:20[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that he gets into the sixties as where Kuiper has him because he had great, he had great measurables in his pro-day.
- 10:28[SPEAKER_01]: Other than his height and he could play the slot, he could play outside and in the NFL right now, if you get a guy who can cover, it's the hardest position in the league to play.
- 10:41[SPEAKER_01]: probably so I think his skills are going to translate.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be an early day to pick in my opinion.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it amazing that these all these guys that we've talked about rat and then Fernando certainly we know Mark Cooper and DeAngelo Ponds.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it amazing that all these guys have had kind of a signature moment, a signature play that is going to help define their legacy within the program like course you got Fernanda's touchdown run in the national championship, which will probably go down as the the play in the history of the program.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_02]: We are literally going to talk about that for the rest of our lives.
- 11:24[SPEAKER_02]: Omar Cooper's catch-up Penn State, Dan's a low-ponds pick six to start the game against Oregon and probably his pick six against Washington in 2024.
- 11:34[SPEAKER_02]: Sirrat had the go ahead touchdown in the big ten championship against Ohio State.
- 11:40[SPEAKER_02]: He also had what ended up being the sealer against Oregon.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_02]: He had the sealer against Iowa this year.
- 11:47[SPEAKER_02]: All of these guys and I'm sure there's others have made signature plays over their careers, especially at Indiana.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I don't know what they did before they got to Indiana, but they've made signature plays at Indiana that will help to find their legacy going into the NFL.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully these guys can have really good careers and we're talking about them in the league for many years to come.
- 12:13[SPEAKER_01]: And you could expand that to Camaro.
- 12:16[SPEAKER_01]: in the the the the punt block share yeah and the national title game you you could throw then aid in fisher the play against UCLA to start the game you could share hat kugin who had no business being where he was on the field running down a fumble 30 yards at the field as a center in the organ game he also had the play where he was so far ahead on a cuby draw
- 12:45[SPEAKER_01]: No, the guys I was watching with are, you know, dudes in their 50s, who are like, I've never seen that, it's like that's such a damn good play that you're high five in your quarterback as he crosses the goal line.
- 13:00[SPEAKER_01]: So.
- 13:02[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely going to be, it's definitely a group that left its mark on Indiana football, not just the national championship.
- 13:09[SPEAKER_01]: You can point singular moments for each one of these guys.
- 13:14[SPEAKER_01]: Black had big run in the Alabama game and so did him be if he gets in.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_02]: Can they get two running backs selected?
- 13:30[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I could be wrong.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
- 13:32[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like if somebody gets black and like the six or seven throw in, they're going to be really, really happy with that pig.
- 13:39[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it'll be a lead or way.
- 13:40[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not a guy that's going to play.
- 13:45[SPEAKER_01]: two contracts in the NFL.
- 13:47[SPEAKER_01]: He runs so hard.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting a later start because as we know, if you listen to Alabama or anybody, every Indiana player was 37 years old last year playing college football.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_01]: So he's probably not going to get two contracts in the NFL, but he runs so hard.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_01]: He reminds me a little bit of Isaiah Pacheco from the chiefs and just he just he gets the ball and he just hits the hole and he's going to hit somebody.
- 14:13[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to make the first contact
- 14:16[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not going to translate to eight, nine, ten year career probably, but he'll probably get four or five good seasons and at least two or three.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_01]: And you can win with that guy as a running back on your game.
- 14:34[SPEAKER_02]: With the spring game coming up on Thursday, I know Mike, you mentioned how you love the NFL
- 14:45[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of like the hype around it because would be in a primarily a college football guy like it's kind of like seeing all this.
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- 15:26[SPEAKER_02]: I've always enjoyed Friday at the NFL draft more than Thursday because I feel like this is when the steel's happening with kind of being a cult fan.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_02]: a reluctant cold fan feels like they're never picking on Thursday.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_02]: So you're always watching Friday.
- 15:40[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious with that, and then the spring game going on on Thursday, uh, will you be tuned in for both of them simultaneously?
- 15:49[SPEAKER_01]: Um, man, I'm not going to lie as much as I love the NFL draft.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_01]: I feel the opposite about spring football.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I just don't get it.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's great.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be an event.
- 16:04[SPEAKER_01]: It's little five weekend People are going to have a ton of fun up there in Bloomington Thursday night, but It's always on time for people like us, you know, I always say Man, if you have a really good offense in this spring game, maybe your defense sucks
- 16:25[SPEAKER_01]: or if you're if your defense dominates your spring game, hey, you might not have a very good offense.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_01]: It's the end of the day.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_01]: It's an inner squad game.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's going to look like practice.
- 16:37[SPEAKER_01]: It's practice and hey, you know, if it gets Indiana football on the field, I'm for it.
- 16:43[SPEAKER_01]: This is a first sneak peek.
- 16:45[SPEAKER_01]: Six says this is the best spring defense he's ever had.
- 16:49[SPEAKER_01]: Um, which is exciting to hear based, you know, on what we saw from last year's defense.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I hope you go gray and I hope you enjoy it.
- 16:59[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just I'm not a spring game guy now NFL draft.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_01]: I was supposed to be in Pittsburgh Thursday night plans kind of fell through, but if you ever get a chance to go, I'm going to recommend it.
- 17:12[SPEAKER_01]: I went to Nashville.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_01]: uh... when they took it on the road a few years ago i have always i've dubbed it divorce dad bontary it's the most it's the most fun year ever going to have if you're a divorce dad watching watching grownman and frank white check throwback jerseys arguing about some third string uh... defensive end from west Texas a&m
- 17:38[SPEAKER_01]: Jason Aldeen's bar in Nashville.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_01]: That's a sight to behold.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_01]: It was a lot of fun.
- 17:44[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people there all for the same reason.
- 17:47[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's there to have a good time and talk football and I recommend I recommend that trip at least one time in your life.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, also little five weekend down at IU.
- 18:00[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever been a little five Mike?
- 18:02[SPEAKER_01]: I was a college student at one point in my life, Grant, but that was a long, long time ago.
- 18:08[SPEAKER_01]: If I show up for a little five right now, it's officially creepy.
- 18:12[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
- 18:12[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I know this the IE report, and this will probably all get cut out by Greg, or really hope it doesn't.
- 18:17[SPEAKER_02]: But Notre Dame Freakin' sucks, man.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that place just the absolute worst.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_02]: I went there for the next couple of months.
- 18:27[SPEAKER_02]: It was concert the other day.
- 18:32[SPEAKER_02]: It's not Memorial Stadium man.
- 18:34[SPEAKER_02]: I hate to break it to yeah, I'm trying not to laugh.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_01]: She just said no to name stadiums.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_01]: No memorial.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure it's no Ross 80 there.
- 18:52[SPEAKER_02]: That's how much I can't stand that place.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_01]: Let's remind me, Grant, we forgot to talk about the Purdue NFL drive prospects.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_00]: Flarries.
- 19:07[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 19:07[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, let's go to the back to Notre Dame.
- 19:10[SPEAKER_01]: Is the Jeremiah love run against Indiana in the college football playoff?
- 19:15[SPEAKER_01]: Is that Notre Dame's watch shot?
- 19:18[SPEAKER_02]: actually I noticed there and that they actually had that part of the field like his entire course of that rope off like you could even walk through there because we were on the floor level and there was like just random like caution tape up there you can't get in there because this is where Jeremiah love took the 98 yard touchdown run.
- 19:38[SPEAKER_02]: So it actually kind of messed up the capacity on the floor for that loop comes concert.
- 19:44[SPEAKER_01]: It's safer ground
- 19:48[SPEAKER_02]: I had, but honestly, you make a good point.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_02]: That might be their watch.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_02]: It's their watch, man.
- 19:54[SPEAKER_02]: It might be.
- 19:55[SPEAKER_02]: I never really thought of it that way, but you, you kind of have a point.
- 19:59[SPEAKER_01]: They will be talking about that run in 14 years.
- 20:04[SPEAKER_01]: Though every December, whatever date it was, they'll be tweeting about it.
- 20:10[SPEAKER_01]: It, it, it, that moment broke Notre Dame football.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_01]: That's their watch at.
- 20:16[SPEAKER_00]: Mike, thanks for joining me despite your Utah mammoth playing tonight.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_01]: It's the South Denver, woolly mammoth's grade.
- 20:28[SPEAKER_01]: There is no Utah hockey team at South Denver.
- 20:32[SPEAKER_02]: Are you a big hockey fan, Mike?
- 20:35[SPEAKER_02]: Cute.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard you on the internet tell report.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_00]: We definitely need to do it in the HL report.
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