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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: "Not A Lot Of Clean Throws Versus Eagles Defense" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to Inside the Tape with Greg Cosell. On
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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds, I'm Jeff Mosher and joining us is
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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell. Adam Kapraen won't be with us for this series,
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Speaker 1: but he'll definitely be back soon. And well, Greg, the Eagles,
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Speaker 1: they keep on winning and as I wrote in my
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Speaker 1: Philly Voice column, the Eagles lead the NFL in quote,
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Speaker 1: well we just won the game because nobody kind of
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Speaker 1: wins like them. They are a very interesting team right now.
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Speaker 1: Offense still struggling, defense really coming alive. So for part one,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do exactly you know what. I've actually had
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Speaker 1: this idea, Greg, I think I don't know if people
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Speaker 1: would mind it. You know how we always do the
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Speaker 1: show in two parts. Why don't we just do front
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Speaker 1: end defense and back end defense and just yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure. Now we will do the offense in part two.
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Speaker 2: But that'll be quick.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be quick. But Greg, this defense, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the pressure has been put on them in less than
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Speaker 1: a week a Monday and a Sunday right to come
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Speaker 1: up against two very good teams, to come up strong,
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Speaker 1: and they've done an excellent job. I mean, when you
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Speaker 1: look at it on tape. I'm sure you saw a
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Speaker 1: lot of similarities even from this game against the Lions
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Speaker 1: then you did with the Packers.
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Speaker 2: You know, It's funny, I didn't think of it in
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Speaker 2: those terms because I tend to think of each game
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Speaker 2: Jeff has a separate entity, because I think coaches think
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Speaker 2: like that. You know, each week it's a different week,
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Speaker 2: and look, every team has certain staples that they do,
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Speaker 2: so therefore there's always going to be some similarities in
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Speaker 2: what you see. You know, the Eagles continue to play
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Speaker 2: a good amount of man coverage, although I wonder, you know,
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Speaker 2: because we're not there, you know, so I don't know.
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Speaker 2: And vic Fanjo is obviously incredibly detailed and incredibly smart.
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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I wonder if, even though it looks
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Speaker 2: really manish, if there's sort of other elements to it
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Speaker 2: that that is not just pure man. You know, that's
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Speaker 2: a very hard thing to know. But the point is
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Speaker 2: they do a really good job of matching routes. They
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Speaker 2: do a really good job, you know, when necessary, of
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Speaker 2: passing on routes. They have a great feel for the
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Speaker 2: match carry deliver principle. They seem to have unbelievable timing
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Speaker 2: with that so there's no real voids where the quarterback
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Speaker 2: can you know, say, oh, there's a clean throw. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of clean throws versus this defense.
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Speaker 2: And you know, just from conversations I've had over the
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Speaker 2: years trying to learn as much as I can about
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Speaker 2: the Fanjoe defense, because believe me, you know, Vic is
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Speaker 2: one of those guys in the year that he was out,
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Speaker 2: from what I've been told, he just worked the game
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Speaker 2: like he was writing an academic paper on the study
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Speaker 2: of you know, some disease. You know, he's one of
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Speaker 2: those guys that just is, you know, a little nuts
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Speaker 2: in a good way about all this stuff. There's no
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Speaker 2: way I could possibly know all the tweets and and
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Speaker 2: there are many, and I can tell you for a
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Speaker 2: fact from speaking to people that there are literally adjustments
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Speaker 2: on every play. It's not hey, let's line up and play,
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Speaker 2: you know. And that was one thing they struggled with
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Speaker 2: early which made sense for Cuba early on and Campbell
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Speaker 2: early on, because there's literally adjustments on every play, right,
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Speaker 2: But this team, you know, Phillips has just added such
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Speaker 2: a dimension because, as you and I have discussed, in
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Speaker 2: an ideal world, Vic would rather rush, rush for and
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Speaker 2: play seven with his myriad tweaks and adjustments and coverage,
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Speaker 2: you know, rather than blitzing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, And that's where I that's why I when
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Speaker 1: I asked you about sort of the similarities rights you
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Speaker 1: had mentioned, you just mentioned uncomfortable throws. And that's what
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Speaker 1: really jumped out to me that both Jordan Love and
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, who have been good quarterbacks, just never look
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Speaker 1: like they had.
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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I thought, right from the start,
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Speaker 2: Goth looked like he was playing a little fast. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and you know, GoF and I've always really liked the
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Speaker 2: way GoF plays, but he was not as poison his
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Speaker 2: patient in the pocket as he normally is. And again
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Speaker 2: there's no way to know the reasons why, you know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is a veteran quarterback. It's not
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Speaker 2: his first rodeo. He's played in big games in his
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Speaker 2: career and played well. But he just looked And you
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Speaker 2: can really notice that on tape and it's not an
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Speaker 2: X and zero point per se. But I've been watching tape,
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Speaker 2: you know, coaching tape since I think nineteen ninety two
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Speaker 2: and learned from smart people, and you can just see
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Speaker 2: when a guy is just playing a little fast. And
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Speaker 2: he just looked like, I know you saw too, right,
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Speaker 2: just looked like he was playing a little faster than normal.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I'm starting to think Greg, because
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Speaker 1: we had this conversation week three right the Rams, if
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Speaker 1: you remember, in that game, when we went through the tape,
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Speaker 1: we really noted that Stafford actually had decent pass protection
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Speaker 1: in that game, but he almost seemed already rattled by
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Speaker 1: the idea of the pressure that might be coming at him,
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Speaker 1: and he rushed some of his throws. We we went
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Speaker 1: back and showed like five or six of them right
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Speaker 1: right right, and it really helps him. Starting you start
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Speaker 1: to see the Egles sort of win the game before
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Speaker 1: the game, meaning you're already in the quarterback's head because
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Speaker 1: of what you've done maybe in the past, or there
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Speaker 1: are certain players on the team, whether it's Carter, whether
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Speaker 1: it's you know, noel Sworth, whatever is that there's even
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Speaker 1: if the Eagles aren't generating a media pressure, they're already
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Speaker 1: the quarterback's already thinking about it. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: such a big advantage when you're already going into the
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Speaker 1: game and the quarterbacks just a little bit timid in
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Speaker 1: certain spots.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you notice that. And then if you're just
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Speaker 2: talking about individual players, because obviously you know that's what
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Speaker 2: you notice as well. I have to tell you I
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Speaker 2: think Nikobe Dean is playing really good football. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he is really standing out. I mean, I don't you know,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna get to some tapes, so I don't know
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Speaker 2: what you've chosen. I want people to understand that we
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Speaker 2: don't play on this in advance, so I don't know
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Speaker 2: what you're gonna ask me, you know, I just you know,
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Speaker 2: watch the tape and give you my thoughts, you know.
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Speaker 2: But you know, we saw last week on that at
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Speaker 2: the end of the first half when he had the
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Speaker 2: the blitz and beat Jacobs and he caused the fumble.
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Speaker 2: This week, he just blew up Montgomery. I mean that
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Speaker 2: was as good a play as you'll see. He's playing really,
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Speaker 2: really good football. I thought another really good play, and
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Speaker 2: you don't see this very often, is when they let
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Speaker 2: Jackson essentially play zero man on Saint Brown on that
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Speaker 2: out route and he knocked the ball away and he
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Speaker 2: played it really really well. Because obviously we've seen Jackson
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Speaker 2: a time struggle this year, and he's been an easy
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Speaker 2: target for everybody. But you know, the guy's still an
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Speaker 2: NFL player, and he shows up and he practices, and
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Speaker 2: you got to put him out there, you know. So
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Speaker 2: you know, just certain things you notice when you watch
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Speaker 2: the tape.
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Speaker 1: So the Lions played for twelve personnel, so naturally I
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Speaker 1: mean eleven personnel. So actually naturally the Eagles were in
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Speaker 1: Nickel a lot.
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Speaker 2: That's what they They're gonna play Nickel if you put
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Speaker 2: seven tight ends out there, well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah they are, they are. And I'm wondering though, if
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Speaker 1: there if you watch more Lions safe than me, I
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Speaker 1: mean with Laporta out, did they just lean heavy on
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Speaker 1: eleven or yes.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they play more twelve when the reporters there, and
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Speaker 2: he's a big factor. Look, I'm not going to say
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Speaker 2: the Eagles would have lost the game. No one can
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Speaker 2: even begin to answer that. So we're not going to
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Speaker 2: go there with the reporter. They play more twelve.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, And you know what, they did have some
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Speaker 1: drops over the middle, like who knows does Laporter catch
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Speaker 1: him if he's targeted. I don't know, you have no idea,
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Speaker 1: You have no idea, no crew. Yeah, he could have
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Speaker 1: dropped it, just like everybody else was. So schematically, I
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Speaker 1: believe Vic blitzed maybe slightly more against the Packers, but
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Speaker 1: as you're mentioning, mostly still sim pressures four man pressures.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the biggest change I think from the
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Speaker 1: past two weeks from the first seven is that he
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Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like he has to blitz as much.
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Speaker 2: No, and they had a high pressure rate versus Goff
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Speaker 2: and they did it without high percentage blitz. Look, their
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Speaker 2: D line was simply better than the Lion's O line,
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Speaker 2: which quite frankly, I expected because we look. I picked
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Speaker 2: Jalen Carter as the player of the game. We talked
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Speaker 2: about that last week when I chose him, and it
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Speaker 2: wasn't surprising to me that their D line was the
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Speaker 2: better unit, given that the Lions had a backup at
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Speaker 2: left guard and a rookie at right guard. So I
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Speaker 2: mean when I said that, I didn't think that was
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Speaker 2: a profound statement. They're just better than those guys, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes it's one on one and the better
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Speaker 2: man wins.
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Speaker 1: That's right. The D line, the interior line of this game.
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Speaker 1: You saw a lot of batted passes, yeah, a lot
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Speaker 1: of disruption. It was really interesting to hear the Eagles
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Speaker 1: say that this was a tell that they picked up
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Speaker 1: throughout the week, and I'm sure other teams have too,
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Speaker 1: the way Goff likes the side arm throws. But what
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Speaker 1: specifically they said was Jordan Davis said this, Moro Joemo
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Speaker 1: said it. They practiced all week long about trying to
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Speaker 1: get their hands up and bat passes, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I just got to imagine that. You know, there are
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Speaker 1: so many things you practiced Wednesday through Saturday that, for
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, don't happen on the opponent makes the adjustment,
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Speaker 1: they get better, they're trying to figure out there wrinkles.
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Speaker 1: So when you get that intel and then you practice
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Speaker 1: it and then it works on Sunday, it's got to
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Speaker 1: be the greatest feeling in the It's like acing a
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Speaker 1: test that you study.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, that's why I've never been a
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Speaker 2: believer in blueprint, because I guarantee the Eagles are not
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Speaker 2: the first team that thought that. When they place played
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Speaker 2: Jared Goff, it just happened to work out that way
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Speaker 2: because the other factor is got such a rhythm player
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Speaker 2: that very often you're not going to get there and
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Speaker 2: sack him. So you know that he's a plan. His
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Speaker 2: back foot, deliver the football guy. So you know he's
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Speaker 2: not a guy. I mean, sometimes he has to wait
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Speaker 2: and throw it late in the down. Every quarterback does.
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Speaker 2: But in an ideal world, the way they run their offense,
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Speaker 2: he plants his backfoot and delivers the football. So when
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Speaker 2: he plants his back foot, you know you and I'm
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Speaker 2: sure they practiced as as you mentioned that at that point,
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Speaker 2: look to get your hands up because the ball.
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Speaker 1: Is going to come out right.
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Speaker 2: And they work the middle of the field very well.
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Speaker 2: That's a foundation of their past game, so they don't
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Speaker 2: necessarily know, not that they never throw outside the numbers,
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Speaker 2: of course they do, but as good a thrower as
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Speaker 2: there is between the numbers. And that's why the Davis
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Speaker 2: factor knocking one down, knocking I think three or four down,
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Speaker 2: and Carter knocked one down, you know, that's why that
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Speaker 2: was a big factor.
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Speaker 1: Sure, well, let's talk a little bit about just the
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Speaker 1: few I don't I don't even I didn't put them
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Speaker 1: in our clips to look at, because sometimes the play
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Speaker 1: is just great. Everybody sees it's great and we don't
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Speaker 1: really need to diagnose it.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs is obviously a player that when you get
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Speaker 1: him in space. Yeah, he can make moves that He's
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Speaker 1: just better than your guys on that give and play.
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Speaker 1: I felt that way. I know there were some mistackles
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Speaker 1: on the thirty three yard catch, but in general, without
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Speaker 1: breaking it apart, I mean, was that just that's Jamir
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Speaker 1: Gibbs that you see on a weekly basis.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I mean, look, he had a tunnel screen
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Speaker 2: for forty two yards and a conventional screen for thirty
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Speaker 2: three yards. I mean, you know, Gibbs is Look, the
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Speaker 2: two most purely explosive backs in the league are Gibbs
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Speaker 2: in a chain. I mean in terms of just pure
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Speaker 2: explosion there, they're They're just at a different speed even
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Speaker 2: for the NFL level. They're, you know, two of those guys.
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Speaker 2: The term I always uses, you know, is terrifying speed.
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Speaker 2: So you know, we can sit here and talk about, oh,
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Speaker 2: this guy had a chance to tackle him, and this
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Speaker 2: guy might have had a chance to tackle him. But
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Speaker 2: you know, Gibbs is one of those guys.
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Speaker 1: He's special.
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Speaker 2: It's good.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to come down too hard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I thought his actual his lateral and change of direction,
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Speaker 1: especially seeing it up close and like be I was
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Speaker 1: there at the game as opposed to TV was something
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Speaker 1: that really struck me. He it's almost Tyreek kill ish
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Speaker 1: with the ball in his hand. As far as his
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Speaker 1: ability to stop start, Oh yeah, it's very sudden, and
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Speaker 1: that's really hard when your momentum is going one way
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Speaker 1: when he changes it the other way.
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Speaker 2: No, he's one of those guys.
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Speaker 1: Barkley. Barkley's not let Barkley can.
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Speaker 2: You don't have hips like that. I remember watching just
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Speaker 2: a very quick story. I remember watching uh Gibbs when
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Speaker 2: he was It was this summer after his last year
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Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech. He was transferring to Alabama, so I
12:06
Speaker 2: felt like watching his taper. So I knew he'd be
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Speaker 2: the feature back at Alabama and therefore he'd get a
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Speaker 2: lot of carries and he'd come out the next year.
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Speaker 2: So I was watching his Georgia Tech tape, and amazingly enough,
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Speaker 2: that day at NFL Films, I'm watching his tape and
12:20
Speaker 2: Fred Taylor happened to be in the building. And I
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Speaker 2: had met Fred Taylor on the field at the Combine
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Speaker 2: a few years before, and we were talking running backs.
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Speaker 2: He taught me quite a few things about running backs,
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Speaker 2: and I said, Fred Khmare, I called him in and
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Speaker 2: I'm watching Jamiir Gibbs is Georgia Tech tape and he,
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Speaker 2: you know, he didn't have much time. He was doing
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Speaker 2: something in the building, but he watched like three or
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Speaker 2: four plays and he just said to me, Hey, that
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Speaker 2: kid's special. And you know this was his Georgia Tech
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Speaker 2: tape before he even went to Alabama, So you know,
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Speaker 2: he's just a different cat. He's one of those guys.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, were when you watch tape, I know you I
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Speaker 1: assume you watch the offense first and that you don't
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Speaker 1: watch it like every single play in order the way
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Speaker 1: it a Kurt.
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Speaker 2: Correct, Oh yeah, I do.
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Speaker 1: Oh I thought you break it apart into offense and
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Speaker 1: then defense.
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Speaker 2: Oh I do, yes, yes, yeah, I watched put it
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Speaker 2: up right. Yeah. The way we have it is, I'll watch,
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Speaker 2: let's say, you know, a Lions offense versus Eagles defense
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Speaker 2: play one through whatever sixty five and there's three angles
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Speaker 2: of each play, which is why it takes me a
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Speaker 2: long time. But but yeah, yeah, but I don't watch
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Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, like like I'm watching it on TV
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Speaker 2: right right.
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Speaker 1: So I wonder the number of fourth downs that Dan
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Speaker 1: Campbell attempted when you're going through the typer. Does it
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Speaker 1: really jump out? You're like, wow, they're going for it again.
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Speaker 1: He's doing it again. All right, that's a fake punt.
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Speaker 1: That's different, but bam. I mean five times he went
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Speaker 1: for it on fourth down and went oh for five,
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Speaker 1: which I have to think is pretty rare for any team.
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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, three for thirteen or third down and oh
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Speaker 2: for five on fourth down, and those are big factors
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Speaker 2: in the game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, situational football is going to win the games. And
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Speaker 1: of course he was when the turnover battle again won
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Speaker 1: nothing on that one, even.
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Speaker 2: Though he had pushes that didn't get first downs.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy anything that jumped out to you other
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Speaker 1: than the false start.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't watch those plays close. Again, I'm
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Speaker 2: being totally honest because I you know, I'm not a
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Speaker 2: big push push fan, so that's usually like you know,
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Speaker 2: when I just take a quick peak to see if
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Speaker 2: I have an email, you know.
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Speaker 1: I lost three angles of that to get to the
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Speaker 1: next day.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's funny.
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Speaker 1: All right, cool, good stuff. We'll see I mean before
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Speaker 1: we get the film, obviously, you know, the Cowboys will
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Speaker 1: be coming up and they're you know it. It's just
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Speaker 1: interesting Eagles are playing these kind of offensive juggernauts week after week,
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Speaker 1: and you do wonder how much can they keep asking
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Speaker 1: their defense to uh save the day, because you can't
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Speaker 1: win every game fourteen, six, thirteen to nine, like eventually,
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Speaker 1: you know, I know they're doing it now, but there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a team.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. One reason I did pick the Eagles
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Speaker 2: to win, and obviously I didn't pick it by that score,
14:47
Speaker 2: but I didn't pick a high scorer, as you might recall,
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Speaker 2: because I you know, I knew we had spoken about
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Speaker 2: how the weather was going to be an issue. Was
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Speaker 2: incredibly windy on Sunday, and it just didn't set up
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Speaker 2: well to me for the Lions, right. You know. So again,
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Speaker 2: if they played the Lions in the Dome, I'm not
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Speaker 2: suggesting the Lions, you know, in their building would have
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Speaker 2: put up thirty five. I'm not saying that, but I
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Speaker 2: imagine the game would have played out a little differently.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's very interesting the Eagles, with their big
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Speaker 1: time wins right over a team they beat, this team
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Speaker 1: they play mostly indoors. You would say, I know, there's
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Speaker 1: it's not fully indoors, but it's indoors the Rams indoor team,
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys indoor team. Yeah, the Lions are fully indoors.
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Speaker 1: I meant the Rams of the team. That's not fully
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Speaker 1: because right there, it's like an opening in that stadium.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so weather's usually pretty good out there.
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Speaker 1: Right, So the game they lost to the Broncos, that's
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Speaker 1: an outdoor I do I do wonder if because not
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Speaker 1: only in these teams that play on turf and indoors,
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Speaker 1: they have drops. Remember Cee Lamb dropped everything in that
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Speaker 1: in that.
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Speaker 2: Open in that opening game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we saw drops in this game. I can't
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Speaker 1: remember if there were drops in the Rams game, but again,
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Speaker 1: it just felt like Stafford was Yeah, there were. In fact,
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Speaker 1: there were one or two we thought that went right
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Speaker 1: off the hands because they looked a little hurried. I
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Speaker 1: just wonder how much that really is a factor these
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Speaker 1: indoor teams coming into outdoor environments.
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Speaker 2: Especially when the weather's not great.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at some of the
18:50
Speaker 1: defensive film here. This is very early. Again, it's the
18:55
Speaker 1: interception that's going to be a batted ball from I
18:59
Speaker 1: think it was Jordan Day.
19:00
Speaker 2: And see this was they busted the coverage on this
19:04
Speaker 2: and you'll see that right to tight end is wide
19:08
Speaker 2: open and he would run after catch and then Goff
19:12
Speaker 2: looked initially to his right and you know, nothing was there.
19:17
Speaker 1: Did he want Gibbs?
19:17
Speaker 2: You think?
19:18
Speaker 1: Is that was that sort of because it looks.
19:19
Speaker 2: Like possibly, you don't know for sure, he looks by
19:23
Speaker 2: his body position if he's looking for Gibbs. And to
19:26
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I don't know why he didn't
19:27
Speaker 2: throw it. And unless he didn't get a clear picture
19:29
Speaker 2: of him because of Phillips and the right tackle sewell,
19:32
Speaker 2: you know that that's impossible to know. If he just
19:34
Speaker 2: doesn't see it immediately, Clearly he knows he doesn't have
19:37
Speaker 2: a lot of time to wait so he might not
19:40
Speaker 2: have seen it. But look, you'll see it now at
19:41
Speaker 2: the top of the screen, Jeff, if you run it
19:43
Speaker 2: a little, they busted the coverage because look it right.
19:47
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right at the top.
19:49
Speaker 2: Wide open and look at the right. He's not going
19:51
Speaker 2: to score anything. It's a tight end. But I mean,
19:54
Speaker 2: if that ball is complete, that becomes a twenty twenty
19:56
Speaker 2: five yard game.
19:57
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:57
Speaker 2: And obviously Davis got his hand on it.
20:01
Speaker 1: And I wonder if he was throwing it to him, Greg,
20:04
Speaker 1: and Davis just got his hand on it.
20:05
Speaker 2: He was throwing it to right for sure.
20:07
Speaker 1: Oh he was, Okay, he was definitely. Yeah, he was
20:09
Speaker 1: wide open then, man, amazingly as good as the Eagles
20:16
Speaker 1: have been in the red zone all your from here.
20:18
Speaker 2: You'll see it from here. Look he looks to his right.
20:21
Speaker 2: If you just play it, he comes back. Look he's
20:24
Speaker 2: looking right at right. He's throwing it to right.
20:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right, that ball is going right.
20:28
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, knock down.
20:30
Speaker 1: By the way, something offensive linemen are taught that I
20:33
Speaker 1: thought really jumped out here. When defensive linemen do that,
20:37
Speaker 1: they reach up in bat. Offensive linemen are taught to
20:40
Speaker 1: hammer him in the chest. As hard as you can,
20:42
Speaker 1: so you no, don't do that. And if you look
20:43
Speaker 1: at Jordan Davis he takes a shot, I mean look
20:47
Speaker 1: at him right now. He's taking it.
20:49
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he lands hard on his back. He
20:51
Speaker 2: turned out.
20:51
Speaker 1: It's very hard. So that's even extra bonus for Jordan
20:54
Speaker 1: to have blocked it. Took the took the shot.
20:57
Speaker 2: And I looked at this play ten times, Jeff, I
20:59
Speaker 2: don't know who made the mistake in coverage, so I
21:01
Speaker 2: can't answer that. But clearly right's not supposed to be
21:04
Speaker 2: standing there wide open, so somebody made a mistake, but
21:09
Speaker 2: I don't know who was. You know, I watched it.
21:11
Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out the coverage. It had
21:13
Speaker 2: man elements, it had zone elements. You know, I didn't
21:16
Speaker 2: know who who technically made the mistake.
21:18
Speaker 1: Got it all right? This play we're gonna look at
21:21
Speaker 1: is an interesting blitz, right, and this is the third
21:24
Speaker 1: quarter reins a little bit cross dog.
21:28
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the fire x cross dog, cross dog.
21:31
Speaker 1: So explain that a little bit what people are going
21:33
Speaker 1: to see.
21:34
Speaker 2: And so this was in the third quarter.
21:37
Speaker 1: Yep, I think it was third and five.
21:40
Speaker 2: Let me go back to my notes to make sure
21:42
Speaker 2: I'm the right play. Oh, this was third and five,
21:46
Speaker 2: first first third quarter possession. They went fire x cross dog.
21:49
Speaker 2: So what that means is that the two stacked backers cross.
21:55
Speaker 2: In a sense, it's almost like a second level stunt,
21:59
Speaker 2: you know, and which is kind of what it is
22:02
Speaker 2: if you're just thinking of it from a you know, perspective,
22:05
Speaker 2: it's kind of a second level stunt. So if you
22:07
Speaker 2: just run it, you'll see what I mean. You'll see
22:09
Speaker 2: that y Bean goes first, Bonn goes behind him, So
22:14
Speaker 2: it's like an X That's why they caught a fire
22:16
Speaker 2: x cross dog. And what happened here is the center
22:21
Speaker 2: initially at ayes on Bonn because Bonn was to his side,
22:25
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Dean's in his grill
22:28
Speaker 2: and Dean's able to kind of push him back. And
22:31
Speaker 2: what happened here this was interesting to me. You know,
22:35
Speaker 2: I never know how guys are taught how to run routes,
22:37
Speaker 2: but it seemed to me, if you look at the
22:38
Speaker 2: top of the screen, it seemed to me that Saint
22:42
Speaker 2: Brown I was surprised he didn't do more of a
22:45
Speaker 2: speed cut here. Again, I don't want to say that
22:48
Speaker 2: he made a mistake because I don't know that, but
22:50
Speaker 2: he sort of got caught up with and I believe
22:54
Speaker 2: that that's Jackson because Mitchell's the boundary corner down below,
22:58
Speaker 2: So he got caught up and if he had made
23:02
Speaker 2: a speed cut, I think this would have been a completion.
23:04
Speaker 2: But like I said, I am not ripping Saint Brown
23:06
Speaker 2: because I don't know how he's taught to run this route.
23:09
Speaker 1: I was just surprised by it, right, So what Greg
23:11
Speaker 1: for those listening and watchings, you know, instead of right
23:14
Speaker 1: now he's getting trying to get into the door his
23:16
Speaker 1: hip pocket and then get him turned.
23:17
Speaker 2: Around, he's trying to get into his hip pocket, close
23:20
Speaker 2: down the cushion, throttle down, and then break instead of
23:23
Speaker 2: just running right at him, maybe getting a yard away
23:26
Speaker 2: from him and then speed turning right away inside, which
23:30
Speaker 2: means he would have gotten inside quicker and he would
23:32
Speaker 2: have been a yard or two further to the inside,
23:36
Speaker 2: in which case it probably would have been a completion.
23:38
Speaker 1: Right right, because he was really just that close. So
23:42
Speaker 1: here's a good angle look at the cross dog put
23:47
Speaker 1: is this a Mike Zimmer staple or.
23:51
Speaker 2: But the key part here notice Jomo and Young. Notice
23:56
Speaker 2: how they attack to the outside because they want to
23:59
Speaker 2: open up the inside you see. Yep, that's all part
24:02
Speaker 2: of the whole concept. And you can see that Glasgow
24:06
Speaker 2: has eyes on Bond the center and all of a
24:08
Speaker 2: sudden deans in his face.
24:10
Speaker 1: Yep, great design, great execution. Nikobe gets downhill really well.
24:17
Speaker 1: I mean he just uses that He's powerful.
24:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's powerful, Jeff. For a little guy, there's a
24:22
Speaker 2: lot in that compact body.
24:24
Speaker 1: So we talked about how Dan Cambell went for a
24:27
Speaker 1: fourth down right after that play, He's going to go
24:29
Speaker 1: for it here on fourth and five. And this is
24:32
Speaker 1: this made my day, Greg because Adam and I last
24:35
Speaker 1: week we're talking about Michael Carter and what role he
24:38
Speaker 1: might have even if he doesn't play nicol or outside.
24:42
Speaker 2: And he played one play and this was it.
24:44
Speaker 1: And hey, listen, it matters and accounts and and Vic
24:47
Speaker 1: now has a dime package to use, which I don't
24:49
Speaker 1: believe he had used all year long, if maybe once
24:52
Speaker 1: with Macavadi.
24:53
Speaker 2: Is a very few. They actually had dime earlier in
24:55
Speaker 2: the game, but there was a penalty so the play didn't.
24:57
Speaker 1: Count, right, right, So that would be one with.
25:01
Speaker 2: Two man coverage here, and you know, the Lions ran
25:04
Speaker 2: a high low concept, which is normally a concept a
25:06
Speaker 2: getting zone. Just you know, so people understand and you'll
25:10
Speaker 2: see what I mean by a high low concept. Look
25:12
Speaker 2: to you at the left of the screen. The inside
25:14
Speaker 2: receiver is gonna run kind of a sit sit route,
25:17
Speaker 2: you know type route. Actually it's not, it's not the
25:20
Speaker 2: inside receiver. But if you go back, it's the uh
25:24
Speaker 2: the number three Yep? Who is number three? Right?
25:29
Speaker 1: Is that on me?
25:30
Speaker 2: I think it is. He's gonna run like the short
25:32
Speaker 2: little sit route right there. Stop and then behind him,
25:37
Speaker 2: Uh is Williams running the inbreaker. It's normally his own concept.
25:41
Speaker 2: But Williams wins. And again a perfect example of a
25:44
Speaker 2: throw catchable but not We've seen GoF make this throw
25:48
Speaker 2: a thousand times and put it right on And by
25:51
Speaker 2: the way, if he put it right on him, he
25:53
Speaker 2: could have scored maybe because he's got that kind of speed,
25:56
Speaker 2: you know, he can beat angles.
25:58
Speaker 1: Right, this is what it looks like. Even from this view.
26:01
Speaker 1: You'll get an even better throw itself.
26:06
Speaker 2: And it's man coverage. They're playing two man.
26:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was one of the few five man
26:11
Speaker 1: rushes here.
26:12
Speaker 2: No, it's not a five man rush because.
26:14
Speaker 1: All right, you're right baughn doesn't fully go.
26:16
Speaker 2: Man Bond has the back. It's a t T stunt
26:18
Speaker 2: inside right with a Joe Mother penetrator and Carter the looper.
26:22
Speaker 1: Right right there.
26:25
Speaker 2: You know again, is it catchable? Yeah, but it's not
26:28
Speaker 2: really a good throw. And if he hit him right
26:31
Speaker 2: in stride, you know, the Jeane's not making the tackle.
26:34
Speaker 2: Then the question is with just one of the safeties
26:37
Speaker 2: to that, you know, does Blanket Ship make the tackle?
26:39
Speaker 2: That's a tough deal.
26:40
Speaker 1: There you go, all right? A This would be to
26:45
Speaker 1: the breakout the pass breakup of Dori Jackson. This is
26:48
Speaker 1: third and ten in the third word, woind up being
26:51
Speaker 1: a really big big play in the game.
26:53
Speaker 2: Right now you're in the red zone.
26:55
Speaker 1: Yep, oh yeah, I'm sorry. Not third and ten? Would
26:57
Speaker 1: I say third and goal? Yeah? No? Is it fourth
27:01
Speaker 1: and goal? Fourth and goal? My bright yep? So this
27:05
Speaker 1: is gonna the ball is going to go to uh.
27:07
Speaker 1: I think I'm on Ross and Brown here? What what
27:10
Speaker 1: are the Eagles in? I think they rushed four on this? Correct?
27:15
Speaker 2: Was this the one? Oh? This was the one where
27:18
Speaker 2: Phillips feed Sewell right off the edge. He broke down
27:21
Speaker 2: GoF in the pocket right away.
27:23
Speaker 1: Was this the one if one, Yeah, yeah, he beats him.
27:26
Speaker 2: He beats Oh yeah, that's the one. He beats him
27:28
Speaker 2: right off the edge really quick. Because another example, they're
27:31
Speaker 2: playing man coverage right the tight end was actually the
27:34
Speaker 2: boundary X and Mitchell had him because they're playing man
27:38
Speaker 2: and Mitchell couldn't work through the traffic, and if Gough
27:40
Speaker 2: had time in the pocket, this was a walk in touchdown.
27:43
Speaker 2: Just shows you the difference in these games. Jack, Yeah,
27:46
Speaker 2: how marginal it is. You know, the margin for era
27:49
Speaker 2: is so small because look, if Gough has time and
27:52
Speaker 2: is able to scan and see what's going on, look
27:55
Speaker 2: at the tight end coming from the left side of
27:56
Speaker 2: the formation, keep running it. Yep, he's white. This be
27:59
Speaker 2: a touchdown.
28:01
Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, it's weird that he had time to
28:03
Speaker 1: throw it.
28:04
Speaker 2: The throwing now to the one on one. He he
28:07
Speaker 2: doesn't have time to really see the play with clarity,
28:11
Speaker 2: so he knows it's one on one and he's just
28:13
Speaker 2: throwing it to him because see this is the Phillips factor.
28:16
Speaker 2: He doesn't get a sack, but he's responsible for this play.
28:19
Speaker 2: By the way, it's the past rush by Jordan Davis
28:21
Speaker 2: here too. You know he ends up Yeah, I mean
28:23
Speaker 2: he he beats that's the backup left card.
28:27
Speaker 1: Yep. And even even Hunt got a nice pressure around
28:30
Speaker 1: left hand.
28:30
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now yeah, obviously got moved toward Hunt. Yeah, you
28:33
Speaker 2: can see this play was made by Phillips though.
28:36
Speaker 1: Yeah. If I freeze it right here, you can just
28:38
Speaker 1: see that's a walk in touchdown for brock right.
28:40
Speaker 2: It's a walk in touchdown for brock right, and Gough
28:42
Speaker 2: would have seen him if he had time in the pocket.
28:43
Speaker 2: He's right in front of.
28:44
Speaker 1: Him, yep. Dorry Jackson does a nice job using the
28:47
Speaker 1: back line of the end zone as an extra defender. Yeah,
28:49
Speaker 1: it's in front of him. Yeah, all right, Uh, this
28:54
Speaker 1: is another a Doriri Jackson play.
28:55
Speaker 2: Now, everything that really stood out to me because normally
28:59
Speaker 2: what the Eagle do with Quinon Mitchell Jeff is they'll
29:02
Speaker 2: play him as the boundary corner and he plays, you know,
29:05
Speaker 2: out of their two shell quarters type coverages. They let
29:09
Speaker 2: Jackson literally, excuse me, they let Mitchell play pretty much
29:12
Speaker 2: zero man. Okay, this time they let Jackson play zero
29:17
Speaker 2: man on Saint Brown, Which if you said that to
29:20
Speaker 2: an Eagles fan before the game, they say, what are
29:21
Speaker 2: you nuts? But you know, right, I mean wouldn't that
29:24
Speaker 2: be the response? Probably? Sure, you know, And this time
29:27
Speaker 2: they let Jackson do it, and he played it really,
29:30
Speaker 2: really well. And for those of this was a third
29:33
Speaker 2: down play as well, it was.
29:34
Speaker 1: Third and ten. When you say zero man, you mean
29:36
Speaker 1: the corner has no safety help, right, there's.
29:38
Speaker 2: No help here he's playing. There's no help at all. Right,
29:41
Speaker 2: Look at the safety to that side. Who's Makuba? Look
29:44
Speaker 2: where he is. He's not the least bit interested in
29:48
Speaker 2: Jackson helping. But notice how Jackson, because of zero man,
29:52
Speaker 2: is playing with a little bit to the inside. You
29:55
Speaker 2: can see that what we call inside leverage, because he
29:58
Speaker 2: wants to push him to the sideline where he has
30:00
Speaker 2: a friend. The sideline. He does not want him to
30:03
Speaker 2: run let's say, a post route inside of him, because
30:07
Speaker 2: there's no safety to help him over the top, right,
30:11
Speaker 2: So he wants to make sure he pushes him to
30:13
Speaker 2: the sideline where you know, like I said, he's got
30:16
Speaker 2: a friend, he had a balance. Yep, this is really
30:19
Speaker 2: good by Jackson. You got to give him credit.
30:21
Speaker 1: Good break on it. Yeah, no, hey, that's too you know,
30:23
Speaker 1: we know he gave up one, We give up a
30:25
Speaker 1: bad one turned into a touchdown. But that was two plays.
30:27
Speaker 1: We just showed that he may and it does feel
30:30
Speaker 1: like every week he's under the microscope, right, because it's like.
30:32
Speaker 2: It's under the microscope. The other colender is really good.
30:35
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he was a I met more under the
30:39
Speaker 1: microscope because of Corey and Bennett and because.
30:43
Speaker 2: See what happens.
30:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, this is fourth quarter, five minutes left.
30:48
Speaker 1: This is the wheel route Greg.
30:50
Speaker 2: So this was the one where Dean ran with our Gibbs,
30:54
Speaker 2: but and ran with him really well. But there was
30:57
Speaker 2: also really good pressure here if I'm not mistaken by
31:00
Speaker 2: j Alex Hunt, if I'm not mistaken, So they ran
31:06
Speaker 2: a wheel with Gibbs and if you run the play,
31:08
Speaker 2: you'll see so Gibbs is off set in the backfield
31:11
Speaker 2: to the boundary and he's going to run the wheel
31:14
Speaker 2: and they got the matchup they wanted. And looking to Kobe, now,
31:20
Speaker 2: the question is would GoF have waited another beat if
31:25
Speaker 2: it wasn't for the p And by the way, he's
31:27
Speaker 2: rushing the quarterback on the tight end Hunt here, so
31:30
Speaker 2: which doesn't mean that that's a problem, but you know,
31:33
Speaker 2: you expect him to win and he does and there's
31:36
Speaker 2: no question God feels that he doesn't have to see
31:39
Speaker 2: that he feels it. The question is, could would he
31:42
Speaker 2: have waited a beat longer to see if Gibbs would
31:44
Speaker 2: have separated, But because he had to throw it now
31:49
Speaker 2: and he feels it. You could see he started to
31:50
Speaker 2: climb a little bit because he felt it.
31:52
Speaker 1: Yes, you saw the climb there.
31:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, So my sense is he probably would have waited
31:57
Speaker 2: an extra beat, but he had to throw it, and
32:00
Speaker 2: Dean did a great job.
32:01
Speaker 1: Yep. And by the way, I think in every clip
32:03
Speaker 1: we show for this is the last one. This will
32:05
Speaker 1: be the sim pressure I think you were talking about
32:07
Speaker 1: when Nikobe Dean busts through against the sack in the
32:10
Speaker 1: fourth quarter late on second and ten. But I believe
32:12
Speaker 1: in every single clip we've shown so far a lot
32:15
Speaker 1: like last week, it all starts from that too high
32:17
Speaker 1: structure that you have been referring to a lot of it,
32:21
Speaker 1: which is the Vic Fangio trademark.
32:23
Speaker 2: Right, which is I think what he'd ideally like to
32:25
Speaker 2: do start from this structure.
32:27
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, all right, before I run it, you want
32:29
Speaker 1: to set up obviously the Dean. I've gotten to a
32:32
Speaker 1: point here where Dean he's showing he's going to be blitzing. Yeah.
32:35
Speaker 2: No, and this was this was big time. I mean,
32:38
Speaker 2: this is this is just you know football. I mean
32:41
Speaker 2: this is It came on a four man sim pressure,
32:44
Speaker 2: he was the fourth rusher and then he just blew
32:48
Speaker 2: up Montgomery and I mean this was boom. Wow.
32:57
Speaker 1: I think you made the great plat. I mean, we've
32:59
Speaker 1: seen the buff. He is not like Fred Warner big
33:01
Speaker 1: or some of the big I mean he he's a
33:03
Speaker 1: little guy, but he just he turns speed to power
33:06
Speaker 1: really well.
33:06
Speaker 2: I mean look at him, he just blows him up
33:08
Speaker 2: and Montgomery.
33:09
Speaker 1: I don't watch the whole not take, but he's a
33:10
Speaker 1: pretty good blitz pickup guy.
33:12
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. And he's not small either, No.
33:14
Speaker 1: He's not. Yeah, he's their power back. Yeah, that's just really.
33:18
Speaker 2: You know, Dean is really since he's come back, he's
33:21
Speaker 2: he's played really good football, really good football. He's been
33:24
Speaker 2: one of the keys to their defense.
33:26
Speaker 1: Look at that. It's like taking out two for one
33:28
Speaker 1: right there. It's a two for one deal. Greg, Yep,
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Speaker 1: I think the last two weeks we've given everybody a
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Speaker 1: good vignette and visual on what VIC is now doing,
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Speaker 1: how the front four itself is getting the job done
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Speaker 1: and less blitzing now that Nolan Smith's back, Now that
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Speaker 1: they've got Jaylen Phillips. Now you've got Brandon Graham who
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Speaker 1: had a nice we didn't show it, but he had
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Speaker 1: a pretty Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know, he's just a rotational guy, but but yeah
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Speaker 2: he gets a few snaps.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And and clearly Nikobe Dean has not only stabilized
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Speaker 1: the defense, like you're saying, they're making so many checks
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Speaker 1: and I think that is his specialty, yeah, but also
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Speaker 1: adding a violent element to it. It's front seven guy
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Speaker 1: like Quina Mitchell on the back end.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, you're seeing just what happens over time.
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Speaker 2: You know, everybody early in the season, you know, Macouba
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Speaker 2: made some mistakes and it's like, oh my god. And
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Speaker 2: I was telling people, you know, hey, this takes time.
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Speaker 2: He's a rookie. We haven't seen those kinds of mistakes
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Speaker 2: over the last month or so. Doesn't mean he's never
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Speaker 2: going to make one. You know, they're human beings. It's
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Speaker 2: the NFL. But I mean, you just haven't seen mccoba
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Speaker 2: is playing with much better I discipline, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 2: everything is starting. You know, it's reps. You got to
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Speaker 2: play in this league. This league's hard. I happen to
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Speaker 2: hear a statement today you know, I hear random things
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Speaker 2: because you know, I'm watching tape all day, but every
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Speaker 2: once in a while, I just check out some things.
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Speaker 2: You know. Dion Dawkins of the Bills was talking about
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Speaker 2: Keyon Coleman, you know, who obviously was a healthy scratch
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Speaker 2: for the Bills this week because he missed a meeting
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Speaker 2: and you know, and Dawkins gave a great answer to
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Speaker 2: the question, you know, and he was basically saying, hey, man,
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Speaker 2: this league is hard. You know, it's hard to be
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Speaker 2: a good player. It's hard to do this every week.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's hard. You know, you don't just step
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Speaker 2: in and have it all figured out week one or two.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's hard.
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Speaker 1: I mean port Nakobe has paid the price for being
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Speaker 1: a very good, violent player and a body that hasn't
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Speaker 1: been able to really you know, hold up for him,
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Speaker 1: and so he's had to come back from some really
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Speaker 1: debilitating injuries to your point, you know, to be in
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Speaker 1: this position. But he's always very studious and a good leader.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, this game it'll take a toll on you
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Speaker 1: in some way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good stuff. Well the Eagles, it looks hard,
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Speaker 1: but those are making defense look really easy and they're
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Speaker 1: having a good time, not so much on the offensive end,
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Speaker 1: and we'll discuss that in part two of our show.
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