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Caution! The AI age of engineered narratives · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  The Supreme Court is tackling birthright citizenship.
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  And it looks like Donald Trump might lose on this one.
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  We'll talk about it.
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  The Supreme Court recently heard arguments about birthright citizenship.
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  President Trump even saw fit to attend.
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  But accounts from journalists are saying they don't think he's going to win this one.
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  I will look into this with you.
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  Let's do that.
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  The 14th Amendment is at question here.
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  What does it really mean when it comes to birthright citizenship?
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  To the common man here, it's if you're born in the U.S., that means you're a citizen.
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  That's fine and well, especially around the time the 14th Amendment was made.
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  The idea was the slaves and the children of the slaves are naturalized as citizens.
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  Slavery was abolished.
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  And those who were need to be naturalized as citizens because hey, they put the work in, they lived here, they should have a right to run for office, they should have a right to vote, they should have every right granted by the Constitution.
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  I should go more in depth about this with a lawyer, but let's let's talk about this.
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  Section one says all persons born or naturalized in the United States as subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
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  No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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  Basically, you're born here, you're in.
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  That's what the words say.
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  After a while, there were some people who would come over here from Europe.
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  And I'm gonna say this right now.
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  My great grandparents included on my father's side.
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  They came to America legally, by the way, as tourists or as visitors, if you will, I should say.
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  They had my grandfather as a baby here.
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  That baby was granted citizenship because he was born here.
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  Then they went back raised him in Italy.
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  When my grandpa, my pop pop came back, he was an American citizen.
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  He got a nice job.
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  He actually helped build one of the Yankee Stadiums, the one we all grew up with.
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  That's kind of cool.
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  Having said that, though.
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  This was common practice at the time.
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  These kids were called anchor babies.
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  But it was a loophole in the 14th Amendment, and uh, well, that was kind of used.
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  But it did bring in productive citizens.
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  The loopholes stayed.
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  But nowadays, you're having people sneak across the border, sneak their way in every willy-nilly which way.
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  Come in here illegally, have a baby, use that 14th Amendment loophole to have that baby granted citizenship, and then either leave or stay here because hell, the baby's the anchor, the family has to say.
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  And of course, the government would be we don't want to separate the families.
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  Well, that's how they did it.
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  They snuck one past us.
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  What was intended to be a law, guaranteeing former slaves and children of slaves citizenship to the United States became something of a loophole to something which has been abused.
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  The left likes to talk about the spirit of the law when it comes in handy for them.
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  This time, no.
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  For the first time, you're hearing them say, Well, the Constitution says this, and it's uh not a living breathing document today.
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  Like, like they always try to say it's a living breathing document.
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  The con I'm a constitutionalist, and I have to say on paper, this is going to be tough to break for Trump.
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  Reports indicate you could see a five to four or six to three decision in favor of keeping birth rate citizenship as is, requiring a change to the constitution.
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  And that, of course, would take a very, very long time.
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  Imagine all the anchor babies that come in.
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  Honestly, this system has been abused, bringing people and families in that aren't really doing anything, doing anything.
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  They come in and go on welfare.
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  Not saying all, but a darn good number, and it's hard to afford.
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  The only real argument that one can have against birthright citizenship as it's written in the Constitution is when a baby is born from two people who are here, or even one person who is here in America illegally, and that child was conceived during the commission of a crime.
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  Committing a crime should make their actions here null and void when it comes to having a baby here because everything happened illegally.
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  It's like it never happened.
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  That's where I would say the argument should be.
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  If somebody conceives a baby in during the commission of a crime, and by the way, coming here illegally is a crime, then the 14th Amendment, the Constitution is null and void.
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  And keep in mind, the Constitution is meant to protect American citizens, not to protect citizens of the world.
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  That's their best argument.
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  Having said that, the Constitution says what it says.
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  The crime has been committed.
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  This is going to be a tough argument, and we'll see what the decision is out of the Supreme Court.
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  If in fact the justices say, Well, if the Constitution says this, you have to change that.
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  It is going to take a long, long time.
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  It's probably going to go through at least a couple of administrations if and when that possibly happens.
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  I'm Chris Cordani, your host for this edition of the show.
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  I do enjoy a little conversation with ChatGPT every once in a while.
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  I do have a lot of fun with ChatGPT.
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  I've uh I've asked them often who would win in a fight between some of these great characters in television or movie history.
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  I had an enjoyable session debating with them about who would win fights between, let's say Rover from the prisoner and the dreadful flying glove from the uh the yellow submarine movie.
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  Remember that?
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  The Beatles Yellow Submarine movie, The Flying Glove.
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  The Apple Boppers, I believe I talked about with them as well.
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  Anyway.
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  I'll just gonna put that aside.
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  I have a lot of fun with ChatGPT, and it does uh generate some cool images that supplement a lot of my work.
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  I like it.
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  If you use AI responsibly, it is going to enhance your career.
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  It's going to enhance your freelance work and it's going to enhance maybe what you could do for other people.
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  Having said that, artificial intelligence, and I use ChatGPT as an example, but there are a lot of them out there.
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  Artificial intelligence is not the way you do research and leave it at that.
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  Always do your own research.
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  I was reading an interesting article from just the news.
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  In my opinion, one of the more fair news outlets I have seen and read from.
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  They were doing a story recently on a report by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
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  It's apparently raising some concerns about artificial intelligence being used by researchers being used by pretty much almost by a lot of people, if you will, laymen and even professionals for research, for basically end-all research, if you will.
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  The problem is when see AI is not a source of information.
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  AI at this point can do two or three different things.
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  One, it can store a lot of information, it can analyze information, and yes, it can solve problems.
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  But when I say store information, it can scan the web faster than we can.
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  It still cannot detect, at least in my opinion, it cannot detect propaganda.
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  I've seen them push propaganda, so I ask why.
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  Generally, it's about who feeds the information, who steers the uh AI system.
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  But the fact is, if it's scanning the internet, you really think it's going to find honest news sources all the time.
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  We scan the internet, and we're loath to find a lot of them.
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  Even this news guard crap has lied about news outlets.
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  It sounds nice.
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  Oh, news card.
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  I'll I'll use that to tell me who's legit and who isn't.
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  No, no, you go off the left wing narrative, or heaven forbid, challenge that left-wing narrative.
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  You're all of a sudden not a reliable news source.
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  I want to read from this article here from uh just the news.
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  A study released in March by the FDD Center for Cyber and Technology Innovation found that major AI platforms frequently cite state-aligned media sources when answering questions about global conflicts.
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  According to the report, the state-aligned propaganda appeared in 57% of responses.
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  Continuing on the research, examined responses from three leading AI systems.
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  We'll go with ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini, posing about 180 questions about conflicts involving Israel and Hamas, Russia interviewed Ukraine, China, and Taiwan.
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  They had to cite sources.
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  Moving forward, the idea was to reveal where they got the information was.
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  Researchers found that these outlets appeared repeatedly in AI generation generated citations.
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  We're going to read that, read them to you right now.
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  Al Jazeera, which is a well, I'll tell you this.
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  They are a propaganda-based news organization operating out of Qatar.
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  Pravda.
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  We all know about Pravda when the when the Soviet Union ran the newspaper.
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  They also had another one.
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  I forgot I forgot the name of it, started with an I, but it translated to truth.
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  Pravda was news.
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  No, wait, Pravda was the truth, the other one was the news.
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  That's right.
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  That's right.
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  I I don't really know Russian as well as I well thought I did.
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  Pravda meant truth, and the other was news.
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  I guess there's no truth in the news and no news in the truth.
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  What is that?
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  Try this.
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  Turkey's Anadulo agency or Anadolu agency.
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  I never heard much of them, but one of the big ones.
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  China Daily.
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  Another well-cited source from these this research.
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  When questions were asked about the Chinatown conflict.
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  China Daily is run by the CCP.
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  The question is, can AI really determine bias or not?
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  And in fact, I'll even believe that AI can suck up a lot of the state-run media and become biased because of that.
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  This is a serious question because you can listen to your podcaster if they're doing a live stream.
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  And a lot of times they'll they'll hit AI.
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  I've watched Tim Poole do it, but he does it for fun.
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  And he does it is as out of curiosity to see what AI, what let's say Grok or ChatGPI, ChatGPT does in response to a question.
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  I'll even do that when I'm on a live stream.
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  I have fun with it.
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  But I venture to say a lot of these people would hope.
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  Well, let's just say it's a little lazier to research this way, and a lot of these, a lot of young people are less into search engines now.
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  The numbers are there.
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  A lot of people are less into search engines and more into conversing with ChatGPT to get their information.
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  And again, again, I want to stress this.
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  AI, this AI gathers information from several sources.
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  It doesn't tell you, or can it tell you who they're getting it from, but it doesn't tell you whether the information is biased or not.
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  It just basically gives you the claims as if they were reported fact.
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  AI might be quicker and might solve more problems faster at times, might be better at searching the net, but certain things like HI, human intelligence, still has to decipher what is propaganda and what is not.
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  The good thing is you can ask AI to leave citations.
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  Now, if you see China Daily or Pravda, or we have an Al Jazeera.
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  Heck, over here, MS now.
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  You can tell it's propaganda.
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  A lot of the news agencies here are propaganda.
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  But we do that with what we will.
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  What's probably more concerning, and I read, I'll read more into the.
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  Let's read more from the article, make it a little easier.
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  This is from Just the News.
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  The report also highlighted the dominance of Wikipedia in AI citations appearing in 80% of responses.
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  Wikipedia is a crowdsourcing information system.
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  All right, fine.
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  You can find a lot of information on the dung beetle without bias on Wikipedia.
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  You can find out where certain cities are located, what their populations are or were as of 2020's census.
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  You can find all that on Wikipedia.
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  Wikipedia has its place.
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  I'm not condemning it 100%.
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  I would condemn people who use Wikipedia as a sh as a source of their work, but just put it there.
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  Wikipedia, a bunch of a bunch of nerds generally.
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  I'm a nerd, I guess.
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  I'm a geek nerd myself, but a bunch of them sit around.
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  A lot of them are heavily biased, left-wise.
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  As a matter of fact, the dominant force behind the uh wiki editors are left-leaning.
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  I'm going to give you a little example of what it did to me once.
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  I had a client who was a rock star.
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  Or uh she was a great singer.
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  I'm not going to tell you who it is.
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  She had a real problem with her Wikipedia page.
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  It was wrong on about eight or nine accounts.
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  Eight or nine.
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  So I was tasked with fixing that since I did have a Wikipedia account at one point.
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  I did it to kind of correct some non-facts.
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  Mostly I worked with uh the entertainment side when it came to Wikipedia.
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  I didn't do much on it.
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  But for this person, who I liked and respected, I made the changes.
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  Uh I took the fantasy out of the Wikipedia page and replaced it with fact.
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  Not only did I replace it with fact, I made sure I had the sources ready to go and cited if and when questioned.
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  This is straight from the artist.
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  The next day, everything was back to the way it was.
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  I argued with them.
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  I said, why are you doing this?
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  I got this information right from the artist.
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  The artist has all this cited, and what I was told was the artist is not a source.
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  So you could take sources that are not true.
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  You could take stories that are not true and put them in these Wikipedia pages, but you can't correct them unless the editors have their conglomerate discussion and say, well, maybe we can do this, maybe we can't.
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  Look in the back of these.
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  I believe you can do that.
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  Whether you have uh, I guess you have to have a uh an account.
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  You can get one and look in the look at the talk section where these moderators discuss changes to the or proposed changes and changes to each page.
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  I went off on them, but I I couldn't change them.
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  They just figured, hey, you know what?
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  The artist can't be a source.
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  Well, how about that?
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  The actual person cannot be a source.
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  I sourced the interview we did, same thing.
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  Although, funnily enough, I have actually had some of my interviews sourced on on uh on Wikipedia, but that's another story for another day.
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  And you think AI should be able to decipher whether they're sending you uh cramp information out of crowdsourced uh tomfoolery like what you see in uh in in Wikipedia throughout the pages.
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  Some will say, hey, wait a minute, this isn't that biased.
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  Maybe they clean things up.
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  Let me just get to you on how biased these uh these editors are and how they describe people with whom they tend to agree.
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  Versus with whom they tend not to agree.
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  I'm going to give you two of the leading, let's just say commentators on both sides, young for for young people.
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  One is Andy No, who's technically a journalist, if anything else.
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  He runs the postmillennial.
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  He is a frequent guest on television and radio.
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  He is a journalist.
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  And then there's this kid who yammers on about how the Democrats can do no wrong, and his name is Harry Sisson.
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  Yes, you've seen him.
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  He's his little smirky, smug little face you want to punch.
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  And he's all he's always biased.
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  He he's always to the point where Democrats can do no wrong.
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  Andy Noah is more of an independent, if anything else.
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  And from what I've seen him and seen and read from him.
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  Let's let's see what Wikipedia wrote about both of them.
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  Let's go with the intro.
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  Harry Sisson, we'll start with him.
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  Harry J.
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  Sisson from Wikipedia is a liberal political commentator and social media influencer based in the United States.
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  He is known for posting political videos on TikTok and other platforms, frequently expressing support for Democratic Party policies and candidates, including former President Joe Biden and former vice president Kamala Harris.
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  His videos are often aimed at engaging young voters and discussing current events from a liberal perspective.
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  Now we all know how far to the left that kid is.
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  He's a socialist, he is a communist, borderline communist if you want to be nice.
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  He is gone on lying for his side, lying for his cause.
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  It's been proven, and he still smirks his way through it with his smug little face.
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  Again, one you want to punch.
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  Let's go to Andy No.
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  I told you he's he's a journalist.
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  But let's hear what the Wikipedia editors have said about Andy No in its uh in its uh introduction on the Wikipedia page.
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  Andrew Quang, Andy Quang No, is an American right-wing social media influencer who is known for covering and video recording demonstrators.
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  He is a journalist, an editor at large for the postmillennial and a Canadian conservative news website.
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  Oh, that's a Canadian conservative new website, not Andy, and a regular guest on Fox News.
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  No has published columns in the New York Post and Wall Street Journal and authored a best selling book on Antifa.
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  No's coverage of Antifa and Muslims has been controversial, and the accuracy and credibility of his reporting have been disputed by journalists.
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  He has been accused of sharing misleading or selective material and has been described as a provocateur.
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  Let me tell you something.
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  The man calls him as he sees them, and he becomes a provocateur.
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  Harry Sisson sits in his little studio, uh yammering on about how great the Democrats are, only because he wanted to get adulation and backpats from his uh heroes in that party, lying for them right and left, two young people, and his videos are just often aimed at engaging young voters and discussing current events from a liberal perspective.
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  This man is farther to the left than Andy Noah's to the right.
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  But the Wikipedia editors, the crowdsourcers, the whiny lefties who run Wikipedia's or who gatekeep the information on Wikipedia will try to tell you two different stories, and inaccurate ones.
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  And Sisson, while he's been documented as lying, there's in the introduction, none of this page discusses how he uh uh has often let's just say offered misleading information or is a proc a provocateur, which he is.
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  No, accused of sharing misleading or selective material, and has been described as a provocateur.
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  Generally, that would go down to the criticism section.
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  There's a probably a very large one.
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  Yeah, there's a large one here.
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  I also remember his site, his Wikipedia site was graffitied.
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  When I say that, I that I actually read Andy No is a racist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  They had to fix it fast, because even Wikipedia editors have a line.
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  But let's just say somebody vandalizes a bunch of Wikipedia sites.
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  That information will be conveyed to the AI as if nothing happened.
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  Unless the AI itself is smart enough to decipher, or smart enough to look back at the talk section and see what actually was happening behind the scenes.
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  Is AI lazy?
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  I don't think so.
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  You can set AI to a quick thinking mode, which is generally more, I'll say lazy mode.
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  But the fact is, it is subject to bias.
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  So, just like the search engines, just like what you read, just like what you hear.
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  You have to be diligent, do your own research.
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  And you can't just ask Jet GPT, what's going on with the Russia-Ukraine war.
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  Is China really going to move into this, that, or that?
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  Well, what's going on with the Yan, Yuan?
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  Nope.
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  You are going to get biased information because that is what is what's available to the AI just as much as it's available to us.
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  It doesn't have a privy access to in inner conversations within the, I guess the Chinese equivalent to the Pulit Bureau.
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  It doesn't have intimate discussions with U.S.
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  intelligence, Russian intelligence, Ukraine intelligence.
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  It does have a bunch of stuff on the internet that we could look at, albeit a lot more slowly, that deals with that actually puts out biased content, extremist content.
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  Luckily, thank goodness it ignores satire in that respect.
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  It does understand that.
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  But again, I'll digress.
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  Trust but verify.
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  That's just the way to go, is it not?
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  Also of note, and not necessarily why you think it is.
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  The contempt of Congress charges levied against Steve Bannon have been thrown away.
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  They've been vacated by the Supreme Court.
• 26:12
  But the damage was done.
• 26:14
  And the damage is going to get worse.
• 26:19
  The good thing is, people who are basically thrown in jail due to only political vengeance.
• 26:29
  They will find in general, generally, in many cases, they'll find themselves exonerated when the other party comes into power.
• 26:38
  Fact is, if you're stuck with the same party that threw you in jail in the first place or anything else like that, you're stuck with these charges, these labels for life.
• 26:46
  This is why the Democrats tried their best to trump up charges against Donald Trump, doing some serious judge shopping and court shopping and AG shopping, if you will, to nab 34 phony felonies on Trump.
• 27:03
  So his uh his detractors, his rank and file, you know, you know the type.
• 27:07
  Those people on the so on social media, the keyboard warriors will always say, convicted felon, Donald Trump, the 34-time convicted felon Donald Trump.
• 27:16
  Because they're sheep, they're simple, and they're first order thinkers.
• 27:20
  They'll never understand anything past that.
• 27:23
  That's technically why they vote Democrat in the first place.
• 27:27
  The party of first order thinking.
• 27:29
  But I'll digress once again.
• 27:31
  Steve Bannon should never have been in jail.
• 27:34
  The man was the man was brought up on any charge only because he was an associate and a uh cog in the first election of Donald Trump.
• 27:50
  The idea was the Democrats were so upset about losing power as they did.
• 27:55
  And the neocons too.
• 27:57
  That's why you're Liz Cheneys of the world and Adam Kinzinger's of the world were on uh move to their side.
• 28:05
  It's because they don't like the idea of an outsider joining or or bossing them around or telling them, hey, the people don't like what you're doing.
• 28:15
  Then you're lying to them all the time.
• 28:17
  So when we get things done, you're gonna have to help us.
• 28:21
  Of course, they obstruct obstructive struct.
• 28:24
  That's what they do, following Maxine Esther uh Waters' orders, if you will.
• 28:31
  But Bannon was sent to jail for four months just for on contempt of Congress charges.
• 28:37
  We could have done the same thing, really, with Hillary Clinton, if you wanted.
• 28:40
  Bill Clinton, finding a way to frame them to be uh uh in contempt of Congress one way or another in front of any kind of committee.
• 28:49
  Keep in mind, it was never, if you remember the time that Bill Clinton was impeached, it was never about the uh, let's just say the outside of household fun with Monica Lewinsky in the Oval Office.
• 29:03
  It's that he perjured himself.
• 29:05
  When he did that, that's when his let's say enemies in Congress pounced and impeached him.
• 29:13
  The Senate figured, well, this is pretty much divide the country worse than ever.
• 29:17
  I got to talk to Senator Livingston, Bill Livingston on that one.
• 29:21
  And I get what they were coming from, where they were coming from.
• 29:25
  And look what happened now.
• 29:26
  The idea that the the left had just impeached Donald Trump twice over nothing, over lies, if you will, and hearsay, just to obstruct him.
• 29:38
  The fact that they did that twice will tell you what they're going to do again.
• 29:42
  And this is why what happened with Steve Bannon is major when it came to throwing him in jail, but minor when it comes to the Supreme Court vacating the charges.
• 29:51
  All right, fine, he doesn't have to walk around with that tag to him for the rest of his life, but does he really need to worry about that?
• 29:57
  You and I, the average Joe might have to.
• 29:59
  We have to apply.
• 30:00
  For jobs again.
• 30:02
  That's right.
• 30:05
  This just leads to every Democrat or let's say every loud Democrat who has been disc who's been publicly telling America that they're gonna bring people up, they're gonna bring Donald Trump up on charges, they're gonna bring people close to him up on charges, they're gonna bring MAGA on charges, as if MAGA was an organized group.
• 30:26
  You want to talk about a concept rather than an organized group.
• 30:30
  That's the make it make America great again tent.
• 30:36
  They're upset because they want to Massa make America suck again, like it did under Obama and Biden.
• 30:42
  That's right.
• 30:44
  We'll call them the Massas from now on.
• 30:46
  Make America suck again.
• 30:47
  And they're gonna try they're gonna try to pull every stop on this.
• 30:51
  If the if the Democrats find their way to gain control of the Congress, and believe me, it's gonna be through the ground game and mail in ballots if they so do this.
• 31:02
  Trust me, I know there's an executive order out there, but they're gonna try to circumvent it.
• 31:07
  They're all the media is already trying to portray this as unconstitutional and get it in people's heads.
• 31:14
  The fix is always in.
• 31:16
  Yes, I know Donald Trump got through twice.
• 31:19
  But I even believe the fixers thought the alternatives were just much, much, much worse.
• 31:24
  And they could you could obstruct Trump.
• 31:28
  You could sit some other people down and say, look, you know, we're the deep state, and we can get a lot deeper.
• 31:35
  Trump might not care about us, but you people do.
• 31:38
  You have families.
• 31:39
  You have families that aren't as well off as Trump's.
• 31:41
  Trump has fought us with money.
• 31:43
  You don't have that money.
• 31:44
  And you're talking about a party that has actually thrown people who represented Donald Trump in court in jail.
• 31:51
  Yes, and has tried to prosecute many others.
• 31:55
  And yes, if you're an associate of Trump, they can't come after you.
• 31:58
  They're gonna come after your family.
• 32:00
  They're gonna sit you down and try to make you lie for them and threaten your livelihood, threaten your family.
• 32:05
  They'll do what they can.
• 32:06
  They did it to General Flynn, they try to do it to Jerome Corsey.
• 32:10
  These are people who will jail their political enemies, and they'll tell you that you're the ones looking to do that.
• 32:15
  Donald Trump has every right to go after the uh corrupt entities that run the government and the corrupt politicians, because they're the ones that tried to throw him in jail just for being Donald Trump.
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• 36:01
  Pam Bondi is fired.
• 36:03
  She is no longer the attorney general of the United States of America.
• 36:08
  Donald Trump has never, never been known to keep somebody for too long if things keep piling up or screwing up.
• 36:17
  Not even when along to the private sector in many cases.
• 36:21
  Not all, but many.
• 36:26
  She was doing photo ops.
• 36:28
  She was trying to look pretty, and things weren't going so well under her watch.
• 36:35
  There's an argument that FBI director Cash Patel should go, but it's possible that he's not going to be fired despite the rumors.
• 36:44
  But Pam Bondi, did she have to go or not?
• 36:46
  Was she the tough woman that that the Trump administration tetted her as?
• 36:52
  Or was she the let's just say the nice cushiony pretty face that well, Matt Gates wasn't.
• 37:01
  I kind of thought Matt Gates was a decoy nomination or a decoy potential nomination for attorney general.
• 37:07
  Just to just to put the liberals in a tizzy, put the left, the Democrats, make them worry, make them weewee their pants, if you will.
• 37:15
  And believe me, they did.
• 37:16
  They were terrified of having a uh having uh Matt Gates come in and just take a sledgehammer to a lot of the the house of cards they built up and their corruption on the left.
• 37:29
  Then Pam Bondi comes in.
• 37:30
  She has the reputation of being just as tough, but she's a lot prettier.
• 37:36
  That puts a nicer face on things, and well, she got nominated rather relatively quickly for a Trump uh appointee or a Trump nomination, if you will.
• 37:45
  Maybe the left was lulled into thinking, well, at least that wasn't Matt Gates.
• 37:51
  Well, maybe the deep state knew that they could play with her a little bit or or kind of come down on her, something they probably couldn't do to Gates.
• 38:00
  But I'll get back on that.
• 38:02
  There were a lot of other good choices.
• 38:05
  What if Todd Blanch was running the show anyway, why not him?
• 38:10
  Well, it's because he's not a pretty face.
• 38:12
  He's not a an overly handsome face to put up front.
• 38:15
  I get that.
• 38:16
  Donald Trump is a showman, he knows the value of I hate to put it this way, making it look a little Hollywood in the campaign.
• 38:24
  First couple weeks, she was tough.
• 38:27
  She was that lawyer, she was, I'm gonna go after the corruption.
• 38:30
  Couple months later, nothing was done.
• 38:32
  And detractors were going, well, Pam Blondie can't handle the job.
• 38:36
  She's just some girl who can't handle the job, she can't do this.
• 38:40
  And some of her supporters were like, and I was included because you can't give somebody a a hundred days and expect the world.
• 38:49
  If you're coming after Democrats in any way, it's not like coming after Republicans.
• 38:56
  The left can lie and the media will quickly comply without fact-checking, by the way, unless it's extremely obvious.
• 39:05
  When it comes to going after Republicans, this is why you see Republicans get indicted all the time and Democrat criminals not.
• 39:12
  They get away with it.
• 39:13
  This is a two-tier justice system.
• 39:15
  So when you are prosecuting lefties, oh like Brennan and Comey.
• 39:22
  And what you're doing is you have to make sure that every I is crossed and T is dotted.
• 39:29
  And have an ironclad media lie or biased proof set of evidence to convict these guys.
• 39:40
  And believe me, the deep state has been known to throw people to the wolves.
• 39:44
  And I'm sure they were completely prepared to throw Comey and Brennan to the wolves or let them let them rot in jail all for the cause.
• 39:52
  Because that's how they are.
• 39:54
  I'm not even sure if they wouldn't have minded the Clintons going away, if you will, because it's
• 40:00
  A new era for them.
• 40:00
  It's the Barack Obama deep state era.
• 40:03
  And don't tell me he's not running the show.
• 40:05
  And don't tell me he wasn't running the show behind Joe Biden.
• 40:08
  But it does take a very long time to present a real ironclad case against Democrats.
• 40:15
  When it just takes a uh some hearsay phone call to try to impeach a Republican president or at least Donald Trump.
• 40:23
  Or you have to represent a guy who maybe asked a question about some mail-in ballots as enough proof to be convicted of a crime.
• 40:34
  But when it's a Democrat, it's almost, well, they can get away with everything.
• 40:39
  You really have to be ready for it.
• 40:41
  Yes, I do believe Pam Bondy dropped the ball, or at least her department dropped the ball on Comey and Brennan.
• 40:50
  Having said that, it may not have been Bondy, but it but she's the boss.
• 40:56
  She has to make sure the right people are in place.
• 40:59
  And she has to oversee these things.
• 41:01
  Especially at something to the magnitude of uh of prosecuting the likes of uh James Comey and John Brennan.
• 41:08
  The John John the Gus Y Hall voting and uh well, let's just say Islam convert Brennan.
• 41:15
  Right.
• 41:16
  I know many will say this that the Epstein files were a big failure.
• 41:20
  I'm not counting it as a failure, but I will say the maneuvering when it came to the empty nest or the empty burger binders that uh Pam Bondi and the Department of Justice gave to some of these commentators on the right, the web commentators, podcast hosts, that sort of thing.
• 41:39
  It was just a bunch of meh information at best, and the worst of it all, it a lot of it was just rehashed.
• 41:46
  It wasn't anything new, it was a nothing burger, as the kids would say.
• 41:50
  Another wave of the release of the Epstein files was actually well well somewhat somewhat well done.
• 41:57
  How about that?
• 41:58
  Somewhat well done.
• 41:59
  Hey, it made Larry uh it made uh Flary Summers hightailed out of Harvard and away from public life for a long time.
• 42:07
  Hmm.
• 42:08
  Borge Brende of the World Economic Forum, the big guy had to step down too because of the release of the Epstein Files.
• 42:15
  And you ain't gonna see anything from Prince Andrew any time soon either.
• 42:21
  So I'm not counting this as a failure.
• 42:24
  I do understand that, I do believe that the worst of it for the Democrats is going to come out in October.
• 42:29
  The Democrats are trying their best to beat in the release the finals, release the finals, release the files.
• 42:34
  There'll be instant regret in October.
• 42:36
  It's going to be the October surprise out of the Trump administration.
• 42:40
  And I still believe Democrat voters will vote their Democrats in, even the ones mentioned, because they never hold their people accountable, as as our side generally does.
• 42:53
  Their side says, but society is so mean to them.
• 42:57
  They're they're minor attracted persons.
• 43:01
  One thing I do believe is that the firing was intentional.
• 43:06
  And probably not because of the overall job Pam Bondi was doing.
• 43:10
  Not because she was incompetent.
• 43:12
  I don't see her as incompetent.
• 43:14
  Maybe she was in over her head, maybe not.
• 43:17
  She certainly is not the corrupt piece of crap that Eric Holder was.
• 43:21
  And seriously, how many times do attorney generals come and go anyway?
• 43:25
  Or attorneys general.
• 43:26
  I should have said that.
• 43:27
  Attorneys General.
• 43:28
  That's the right way to say it.
• 43:30
  There were some excellent arrests under her watch.
• 43:34
  Beating the being some drug cartels under her watch.
• 43:39
  Of course, there's talk of the idea that uh Todd Blanche was really running the whole show behind her, and she was a figurehead.
• 43:46
  Okay, you might say that.
• 43:48
  But again, I'm not saying she was incompetent.
• 43:51
  She might have been ineffective.
• 43:53
  She might have been in over her head, as I said before, but I'm not saying she was either.
• 43:57
  But I will say she did drop the ball on Brennan and Comey.
• 44:01
  Her whole department did, and I'm surprised she wasn't let go before that or around then.
• 44:07
  Having said that, the question is, was she compromised?
• 44:11
  It's not difficult to compromise even honest politicians, and I see the oxymoron right there.
• 44:18
  But there are some people who come in with good intentions and they get compromised one way or another.
• 44:23
  Sometimes they feel the need to be in with the cool kids there, and they feel compromised because they have to go along with the big boys, the crowd, if you will, the people that'll that'll find their find find them their perks, if you will.
• 44:37
  Or they like to be on, they're corrupted by the fact they get coverage if they say outrageous and stupid things.
• 44:43
  This is where the squad comes in.
• 44:47
  Or they're corrupted in another way.
• 44:59
  Uh uh justice organization, if you will, if there's some problems as far as crime is concerned, or worse yet, an enemy political organization like the Chinese Communist Party.
• 45:11
  No joke.
• 45:12
  I am pretty sure that uh that the former Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, Senator Mitch McConnell.
• 45:22
  Remember, he's married to Elaine Chow, who has relatives in China.
• 45:26
  And her sister, I believe, was well, he she went up disappeared.
• 45:32
  I'm not telling you this actually happened, but I wouldn't be surprised if the CCP made its threats against McConnell.
• 45:41
  And Elaine Chao's family.
• 45:44
  So how difficult is it for somebody from the deep state to find his or her way to Pam Bondy, find a weakness somewhere along the line, or worse yet, have a meeting with her and put his or her arm around her and say, Pam, I know you're loyal to Donald Trump, and I know you want to find justice here, but keep in mind, you go a little too far.
• 46:08
  You might remember what we did to RFK.
• 46:11
  So though Tilda just to keep that in mind when she goes about her business.
• 46:16
  So when I say I believe a politician may be compromised, or anybody who disseminates information may be compromised.
• 46:23
  It might not be because they're they're loyal to the cause, or they've got in they got influenced by the forces of the deep state or the national communist movement, if you will.
• 46:35
  It could be because they're they just they were got to.
• 46:39
  I guess that's how one would say that.
• 46:44
  It's the it's the simple way to put it.
• 46:47
  They were got to.
• 46:48
  It's a sad fact of political life, and unfortunate for us, the people who want to see that swamp drained, but that swap has a grip and a very long one.
• 46:59
  So who are the names being thrown around as as per the next attorney general?
• 47:04
  Well, is the idea that Todd Blanche could take over, but I doubt that he's going to get the nomination.
• 47:11
  Somebody with personality in some way they can sway moderates, if you will, within the Republican side.
• 47:19
  Could it be Lee Zeldon?
• 47:20
  I've heard that name floated around.
• 47:22
  In fact, you're going to hear uh Jerome Corsey and Tony Schaefer talk about that on Tony Tony Schaefer's deep dive show later on this week.
• 47:30
  But could it be him?
• 47:31
  I've heard that name floated around.
• 47:33
  Or please let it be Matt Gates.
• 47:35
  I don't think he'll get the nomination, but just throwing that name around again might actually help get a real shark in there too.
• 47:43
  Somebody not as uh known of a quant uh quantity.
• 47:46
  I've also read Janine Pierrot's name is a possibility.
• 47:50
  I like Janine Pierre.
• 47:52
  I think she is a fantastic lawyer.
• 47:54
  I believe she is a fantastic fighter against corruption, and I believe she will take down the deep state if she had the chance.
• 48:01
  I also believe that it's going to take a lot to get her nominated because she intimidates a lot of people.
• 48:09
  That's another thing about Pam Bondi.
• 48:11
  Yes, she has a track record, but she didn't look or act intimidating.
• 48:16
  Jean Pirrow, she is one tough lady.
• 48:20
  And believe me, I remember her from uh being here in New York.
• 48:23
  She was the Westchester County DA, and she was tough and cool then.
• 48:27
  Honestly, she would probably be my choice if I was allowed to push somebody through without any congressional excuse, excuse me, any Senate approval.
• 48:36
  Having said that, Lee Zeldon seems like the kind of guy that the left and the moderates will think, well, he doesn't he doesn't scare us that much.
• 48:46
  But then he gets in, he gets the job done.
• 48:48
  And the man's done a great job running the EPA and coming after uh corrupt uh establishments that have tried to infiltrate that agency over the years.
• 48:59
  And knocking down the junk science that has been infiltrating that agency for all those years.
• 49:04
  So why not have Zeldon as the attorney general?
• 49:08
  Personally, I'd rather see him run for governor here in New York.
• 49:12
  Well, you can't stop him.
• 49:14
  He has a chance to be attorney general.
• 49:15
  Let him.
• 49:16
  It's not going to be easy getting things through Republicans either, at least some of them.
• 49:20
  Tom Tillis, a uh North Carolina senator.
• 49:24
  He said on CNN, all right, that he wanted to uh disqualify anybody who would who defended the US, as he put it, capital breach, I guess, from 2021.
• 49:37
  You know, the time when grandmas and grandpas questioned the uh questioned the election, which you have every right to as a citizen.
• 49:44
  And the bad actors in there, and of course some plants decided to cause a riot.
• 49:50
  And you're talking about defending people like the people who are unlawfully thrown in jail.
• 49:54
  I believe those people should get a shot at attorney general because they stood up to powerful entities.
• 50:01
  But again, I'll digress.
• 50:05
  Zelden and Pyrrhow would be would be fantastic choices, to be honest with you.
• 50:09
  At least in my opinion.
• 50:11
  Another name that has been thrown around is interestingly enough, Harme Dylan.
• 50:17
  She kind of fits in with the Trump picks.
• 50:21
  Slightly blonde.
• 50:23
  On the on the appearance side, of course, female.
• 50:25
  She's done a great job.
• 50:27
  Reading a Fox News article, Mike Cernovich even said Dylan would be a good choice, as she was, quote, fighting civil rights lawsuits on behalf of Trump supporters who were attacked by Antifa in 2016.
• 50:38
  And he goes, who is around in 2016?
• 50:40
  Well, she was.
• 50:41
  A lot of people were singing her praises, if you will.
• 50:44
  I kind of like that.
• 50:45
  Honestly, he could just slap the interim name on Todd Blanch, like he did and keep it there for a while and make him the boss.
• 50:52
  And there has nobody has to approve that at this point.
• 50:55
  You need somebody who can take on the deep state.
• 50:58
  Speaking of which, King Charles.
• 51:02
  Boy, I hate saying that.
• 51:03
  My friend Jenny, uh, my friend Jenny Bellstar, Jenny Matthias says that uh he's going to be the last king of England.
• 51:10
  Well, let's hope so.
• 51:11
  We don't need any more of that.
• 51:12
  He's the first guy who yammered on about a new world order.
• 51:16
  He is a new world order sycophant.
• 51:19
  It winds up recently.
• 51:21
  He uh shunned Easter Sunday.
• 51:24
  I want to say this because he usually delivered an Easter message, did not do that this year.
• 51:31
  And you see what's going on in London and in all most of or a lot of Britain right now.
• 51:37
  Whereas they're just letting in a lot of migrants, mainly Islamic migrants from third world countries and northern Africa into the country and de-Christianizing it and more Islamifying it.
• 51:50
  Believe me, it's happening.
• 51:52
  I bring that up because in no way did King Charles miss the Ramadan message.
• 51:58
  If you're not paying attention, you should.
• 52:00
  I see a lot of Western Europe, even if it's not the entire country finding pockets or establishing pockets that are Islamified.
• 52:09
  The U.S.
• 52:10
  has done this with migrant populations.
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  A lot of that was for political and representation purposes.
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  And yes, I suppose kickbacks.
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  That's what they're that's what's being investigated.
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  Again, thank goodness for the uh investigations into these uh these these daycare center and on hospice fake businesses that are funneling public taxpayer money into the pockets of scammers.
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  I don't care if you're American, Somalian or where you came from, shouldn't be doing that.
• 52:42
  Back to Charlie.
• 52:44
  King Ears made sure he the man goes out of his way to give the Ramadan speech.
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  And yes, I understand that the royal family gave a message for Easter on Thursday, but did not do an Easter address.
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  So the question is, is this just royal family business and they don't really care?
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  Which I I guess I can deal with because they're irrelevant anyway.
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  I don't live in Britain, and I don't really care much for the the idea of a monarch or a celebrity if a monarch, a monarch family or a celebrity or some kind of tradition.
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  It's their tradition.
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  And Charles is there because of that tradition.
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  They're not going to stop it because it's it's part of what Britain is and was for centuries.
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  So I get that.
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  Having said that, though, a lot of people in Britain are quite pissed about this.
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  The guy's gonna score out of his way to talk about Ramadan and make a special message for Id, but not make that message for uh for Christians on Easter.
• 53:55
  I suppose one could really ask if he was Islam of fighter, maybe a convert.
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  He's not going to tell you the truth.
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  And there are good reasons for that on their end.
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  I don't really say they're good reasons, but they believe it.
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  When you're when you're talking to the infidel, which is us, which are the Christians, Jewish people, anybody that's not Muslim or a certain sect of Muslim, depending on who you're talking to, you can lie to us.
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  And you'll be forgiven because the idea is to spread Islam.
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  I can't tell you that King Charles was a convert.
• 54:32
  I heard it floated around a couple of places.
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  I can tell you, I heard it from very reliable sources that John Brennan is a convert to Islam.
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  And the thing is, the question remains, with all that's happening in Western Europe and the U.S., and all this garbage about inclusiveness and Islamifying certain pockets of this country, Islamifying London, Islamify, bringing in more and more Muslims and trying to cover up their crimes from the third world migrants' crimes and trying to cover up.
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  I mean, remember, they covered up a pedophile ring.
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  Kirstarmer was the main cog at covering up a pedophile ring because it was a gang of Pakistani migrants that was perpetrating this against native uh British girls.
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  There is an absolute distaste and hatred for Christians among a lot of people in this uh in the political realm in the first world now.
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  Why is that?
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  Can we ask the legitimate question that a lot of the more powerful people, and the louder ones, if you will, convert.
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  And are they lying to us about that?
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  They're allowed to.
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  You never know.
• 55:53
  I'm putting this in your head, not because I believe that a lot of people did such, but that I know one did.
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  There's a good chance a bunch more did.
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  And if you look at what's going on, you call things like you see them.
• 56:07
  Somebody has to be driving this.
• 56:08
  It just can't be, and it can't just be the World Economic Forum.
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  You need cogs.
• 56:14
  You need people in the mid, the middle management.
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  You need people instilled in governments around these countries.
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  I wouldn't be surprised if more uh U.S.
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  lefties here who are prominent have done so.
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  I'm not saying they have, but I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised.
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  Because of how they're destroying this country, destroy and treating Christianity as the enemy of the people.
• 56:41
  Well, you know it's not.
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  I want to thank you for being with us.
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  We're out of time.
• 56:46
  I'm Chris Cordani.
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  Let's talk some more when we're on again.
• 56:50
  Good thing is, if you're listening live, we have the national security hour on next.
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  Right on America Outloud.news or wherever you get your podcast.
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  Again, sending off for Unleashed.
• 57:01
  I'm Chris Kordani.
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  Thank you for listening.
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  Let's all unleash that truth.