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Elon Musk REALLY hates this guy · Elon Musk Podcast

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Block 3 is on us. It's coming.
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It's so crazy that this is actually happening.
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I cannot believe it. Block 3 which they will send
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people to the moon with and eventually things to Mars.
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But we have some moon updates today.
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We have some block 3 updates today.
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We have some Elon updates today. We also have some other like the
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interior actually of the the moon Lander, the HLS Starship is
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we're gonna talk about that a little bit.
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There's a little bit of information on that that SpaceX
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released. And also there's a there's the
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crew display that they showed a little bit ago and we're gonna
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talk about that a little bit. But we also have to talk about
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something that's very important here.
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And this is that Elon Musk and Starship and company, SpaceX and
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company, I've been pushing for Starship HLS ever since the NASA
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director put back on the table that Blue Origin has been kind
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of put back in the mix with this blue moon.
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And look at this guy, Jared Isaacman.
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What's up, buddy? What's up, Jared?
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Now this blue moon, look at how big this thing is, by the way,
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gold surrounded by gold royalty of Jeff Bezos standing at the
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base of this Lander. Now this is this is the key
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factor for SpaceX releasing what we just saw, which is all of
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this information about the HLS Lander on their website.
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Because they don't they, they were told that they're going to
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be opening up the HLS Lander again for other companies to, to
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be part of this HLS demonstration and also
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eventually landing people on the moon surface.
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So SpaceX released a bunch of stuff.
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It's basically damage control, to be honest with you at this
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point. And this is a little bit ago.
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So they did release this a few weeks ago, but I wanted to this
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is this all leads into where we're at today.
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So this is all going to work out.
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Now I want to show you this, what I was talking about earlier
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too, the interior crew display for Starship.
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OK, so these all touch screens for Starship HLS, not just
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regular Starship that's point to point or Starship that's going
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to launch cargo or anything like that.
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This is HLS Starship and this is the interior.
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And there's it's fuzzy. I got this off Twitter, but it's
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fuzzy. But you can see right here, you
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can see it's where my magnifying glass is down here, a crater on
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the moon. You can also see a few things.
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Looks like a regular, like a regular display from an airplane
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or a jet or something like that. Altimeter tells you height, how
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far away you are from the surface, where you're going, how
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level you are. And also this shows you where
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you are. This is a cool part that shows
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you kind of where you are on the map of the moon as you're flying
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in. And also this is, it looks like
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it's a real time display of what's going on outside.
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So there will be cameras on the outside of the HLS Lander.
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OK, so we know that we may be getting feeds, which is really
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cool. We may be getting feeds of the
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HLS Lander as it lands on the moon.
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Now, I'm not sure if that's going to actually happen because
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if the HLS Lander has a little incident, nobody really wants to
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see that, right? Like, I don't, I wouldn't want
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to see that. I don't want to see it tip over.
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I don't want to see people get harmed.
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I don't want to see any of that. But I think it's really cool and
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it's important that we show people what's going on on the
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surface of the moon as it's happening because this is a
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huge, huge deal. Stargazer girl 79, hello,
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welcome back. We are happy that you're here.
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And we're going to get into the pole in chat as well, which is
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will Starship launch in January? I don't going to get into that a
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little bit too. How you been, Stargazer?
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Now this is another post from SpaceX and this is about the HLS
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thing, right? Like many Americans were
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thankful for Mr. Brideson because Jim Brinstein just told
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told SpaceX in the world that SpaceX is not going to do this.
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Oh, Jim Bryanstein, I don't know, man.
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There's, there's parts of me that are like that.
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I love Jim Bryanstein and I think he's done a great job for
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all of NASA. He's done great stuff.
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But at the same time, and I really see a video about this at
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the same time now he's he's a paid lobbyist.
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So what he's doing is pushing other companies that are not
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SpaceX to do SpaceX Y things like HLS and launch astronauts
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to the moon on other Landers. Now, the problem here is, is
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that SpaceX won the contract, right?
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They already won the contract. They know they won the contract.
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And the, you know, Jim Breinstein, he doesn't.
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I don't want to say this because it sounds kind of rude, but it's
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like, in the grand scheme of things, he's a lobbyist.
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He gets paid to lobby for other companies.
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So he gets paid a lot of money to lobby for other companies and
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to push SpaceX down. And we don't want that.
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We don't want SpaceX to be pushed down.
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We want them all to be around. We want all these Landers to
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work, but we don't want them to cancel anybody because you don't
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agree with them. It doesn't make any sense.
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If you don't agree with with Elon, if you don't agree with
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Spacex's plans, that's fine. They won the contract.
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They won the contract. They should be able to do this.
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They're already, they're kind of behind, but so is all of SOS, so
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is all of the HLS program. We don't even know what the
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space, if the space suits are done.
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We don't know anything else about docking mechanisms.
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We don't know anything about the Orion.
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The Orion Artemis 2 hasn't even launched around the moon yet.
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We don't even know if we can get to the moon with people.
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We know that we can dock things, right?
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But we don't know if Starship can dock with an Orion capsule
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yet. So Jim Breidenstein is lobbying
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for other companies to come in here and take that spot, even
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though we have not even figured out if that is a a real thing
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yet. And it's gonna take a while.
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It's gonna take a while for Starship to get to a point where
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they can launch an HLS version of this.
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We haven't even seen any really of the HLS other than what
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SpaceX had released in this document on their website.
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And they're showing renders. More renders, more renders.
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And I love renders. Don't get me wrong, I love
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renders. But here's an interior shot of
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the HMS. There's no actual photos of them
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working on this thing. There's no proof or no evidence.
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And Jim Breinstein is. There's one thing about Jim that
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I can agree with. He says that SpaceX has fallen
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behind and that SpaceX is they're not going to make their
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deadlines for HLS, which it's possible they don't.
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But you know what, every single space program, including Apollo,
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there's been setbacks. Everything, every single rocket
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launch that's ever happened ever, you can, they never launch
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on time, for one. They always get, they always get
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pushed back. There's always some technical
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difficulties happening somewhere along the line.
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So nothing's going to happen on time.
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I I And it's not because somebody doesn't like SpaceX.
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That's not because SpaceX isn't good.
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It's because that's just what happens with rocket.
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It's just rocket engineering and rocket science is really, really
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hard. So it's difficult.
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And the plan for SpaceX to launch humans to the HLS, it's
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kind of in stasis. You know, they keep building,
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NASA keeps building. NASA builds its SLS, NASA
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launches some people to the moon early 2026, or around the moon,
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I should say, not to the moon. They're going to go to wish the
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moon around the moon, then come back down to Earth, but they're
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not going to land on the moon. So the, the plan for SpaceX is
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to continue building HLS, the version of HLS that they have
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right now. And also they can't.
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And this is the this is the thing with a prototype rocket
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that Starship is right now. They can't commit to a full
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design until they know that the current Starship Block 3 is
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complete. Because if something goes wrong
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with the plumbing on the interior, they would have to RIP
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out everything in the HLS rocket if they're building it.
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If something doesn't work out for regular Starship, they're
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going to have to rebuild everything for HLS Starship.
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If everything doesn't go well with the exterior, if something
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doesn't go well with the exterior of Starship, HLS will
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have to be rebuilt as well. So then building HLS in tandem
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with the regular Starship at the same time, it makes sense to a
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certain degree. And that's why we have renders,
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and that's why we don't have a completed HLS prototype yet.
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That's because we don't even have a completed Starship
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prototype yet. They haven't even made it to
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orbit, really. They made it to orbital
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velocity, but they haven't made it to orbit.
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And that's why we haven't seen HLS.
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It's because there's no proof from the regular Starship that
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HLS will work. Now, granted, HLS doesn't have
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to come back down to Earth. HLS Starship just goes to the
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moon, docks with Orion, and then HLS goes down to the surface of
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the moon, comes back up, docks with Orion.
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Orion brings the people back down to Earth.
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So they don't need all the other stuff around, you know, they
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don't need the panels, they don't need the heat shield
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around Starship. So the moon version is going to
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be different, but it's going to be similar but completely
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different, if that makes sense. And Next up, this is what Elon
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and SpaceX has said about Bridenstine and said basically
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like Jim Breidenstein, he's a shill.
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Now he's lobbying called for a firm called the Artemis Group
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representing the host of aerospace companies vying for a
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NASA business. Then if you click through here
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open Secrets lobbying firm profile Artemis Group Oklahoma
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Look at all this money that goes to the I don't want donate this
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sorry open secrets can't donate to you, but they send money for
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lobbyists. Look at how much money these
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companies send to lobbyists to the Artemis Group in Oklahoma.
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If we did all of this, we, if we count all this up, it's hundreds
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of thousands of dollars, maybe half a million dollars, 10/20/20
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thousand 30,010 thousand 10,030 thousand 60,000 from Impulse
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space 20,000 and then you go on 60,000 Impulse Space Oklahoma
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Space Industry Devil Authority, Development Authority 50,050
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thousand 30,000 and these are all companies that are vying for
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business from NASA and they're spending this amount of money.
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And by the way, look at this United Mother Effing Launch
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Alliance. Look at this.
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Jim Bridenstine is a rich man. Now the NASA salary wasn't
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enough. Look at this 300 two 3230.
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So that is 700 some odd $1000 just from ula going to his group
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that are positioning themselves as a group that can help you
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lobby to get your company in front of Congress.
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So they will send you to the moon and then you'll get that
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big ass contract. You get that billion dollar
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contract from NASA or numerous contracts from NASA.
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So Artemis Group, Oklahoma, University of Arizona sending of
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30 thousand 60,000 via set via set of $0.00 whoops down here
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via set of 0. They're like, hey, by the way,
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we're just checking out our our accounting at $0.00 there,
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80,000 there. And then our last page as a few
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others too, 60 thousand 20,060 for Voyager Space Holdings.
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I wonder how much of this is just people just figuring out a
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way to pad their own pocketbook. I mean, for a lobbying group,
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you have a nine to five job, right?
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How much money do you think you need in a year to be
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comfortable? If you're Jim Bridenstine, let's
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just say it's $250,000 a year. That's just, and that's good,
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like quarter $1,000,000 a year, right?
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That's really good money. You just take one ula paycheck,
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brother, right there, 2:30 right there.
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That pays Jim Bridenstine for one like one guy, right?
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And how many lobbyists do you need to get all these people to
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get all these companies in the good graces of NASA?
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Do good work. If you do good work, that's what
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they tell you, right? That's what they always tell
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you. It's like you do your best work
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and somebody will figure it out. Somebody will find you.
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But you know what? It all tracks down to money.
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It's all money, $230,000 could go straight to you.
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Jim Bridenstine. But what if Jim?
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Jimmy Jam? I used to call him Jimmy Jam.
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I thought he was a great guy. I think he still is probably a
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good guy. But if I were him and I had a
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family and I'd be like, you know what, All I got to do is some
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paperwork and I got to talk to some people, shake some hands.
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He's a politician too. And I'm not here to rag on Jim.
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I'm just telling you how it is. I like, I think Jim's probably a
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stand up dude, probably a good guy, but when you get offered
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the position of being a lobbyist and they just go, you know what
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Jim? Not just 2:30, we're going to
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give you this. We're going to give you 500,000
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a year. I'm going to give you half
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$1,000,000 a year. You do this every year.
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We're going to guarantee you $500,000 a year for the next 4
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years. So you're going to make
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$2,000,000 off of this, then also probably have other gigs
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going on because anything that's a lobbyist, if you're a
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lobbyist, you have other people that work for you.
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So this other money goes to people that help you out too,
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right? So this $500,000, quarter
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million or half, $1,000,000 goes a gym per year, every year.
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And then the other money goes to a few other people.
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They spread it out amongst a bunch of different other people
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and everybody's making a making bank.
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If you're a lobbyist, you make bank and especially if you're
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lobbying the United States government.
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And this is open secrets. So these are, if I were to put
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all of this money, I'm just going to add this together and
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ChatGPT real quick. OK, so page one, let me do some
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ChatGPT add these totals together.
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We're going to do this together. I haven't done this yet, so I
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think I think it'll be interesting to see how much
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money this whole lobbying firm brings in, right?
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That's 2:30. That's zero.
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Let's get down here. Come on, ChatGPT, don't fail me
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now. Don't hallucinate.
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And that's what's great about ChatGPT and all these LLMS is
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that they will sometimes be very, very useful for you in
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situations like this. But I think let's see how much
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it's going to bring up some wild number and then let's see what
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in Open Secrets if there's any other information here.
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So it's evaluating the $60,000 entries just OK, so they made
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2.365 million dollars, $2.365 million.
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OK, So 500,000 of that, let's just say that goes to Jim,
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right? And then the rest of it goes to,
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I wonder how many people are lobbyists for Artemis Group
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Oklahoma? How many people work there?
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Lobbyists. Let's see 5 lobbyists.
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OK, Jim Bridenstine, Christopher Ingram, Mark Pelant, Gabe
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Sherman and Catherine Wall. All of these people are making
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some bank, right? OK, so how much was that?
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2.365 million / 5? Divide that by 5 by 5.
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So this isn't the actual salary they're going to get, but OK, so
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that's $473,000 if they paid everybody equally in this
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lobbying Group 4, 173. So my guess was right, because
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you don't need overhead for this, right?
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There's some, there might be like some plane trips and stuff,
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but everything's virtual now. You get on the Zoom call with
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the senator. Sure, you got to go to some
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whatever, you got to go some meet ups and whatever, but
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that's, that's negligible compared to your half $1,000,000
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a year salary because you're lobbying for ula and you're
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lobbying for all these companies.
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And I, you know, somebody like Impulse Space and Red Wire
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Space, they don't have a lot of money to talk to and they don't
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have the resources to talk to NASA all the time.
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They, they just don't. So somebody like Jim and his
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crew here, they obviously have, they serve a purpose.
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They have these people's ears, right.
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So this lobbying group is important for for these
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aerospace companies. And I'm just looking at
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Department of Defense. Yeah.
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And if you get a Department of Defense contract, one of these
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companies, dude, this is going to change your, your whole
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company. And these are all the companies.
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All the companies here that do everything.
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So groups that have retained Artemis Group in 2025.
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So let's see here. 200,000 and these are just the ones that
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they know of right now. But there could be more State of
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Oklahoma, the state of Oklahoma Ula $760,000.
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All of this, all this money goes straight to the lobbyists.
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And you know what? I don't think there's anything
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wrong with people communicating, right?
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I don't think there's anything wrong with anybody doing what
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they do because I think that if you're a small company like X
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Labs who can only give $10,000 but does that, you know you sell
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a package, right? I do consulting.
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I get it, I get it. I do consulting.
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I consult for business to business brands that are trying
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to break their way into social media.
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So they pay me because I have expertise in this.
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I've been doing this channel for a long time.
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I haven't done live streams in a long time, but I've been doing
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this channel and other channels for a while.
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So I have an expertise in it. I've been doing it for a very
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long time. I know this hardware, I know the
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software, I know the, the, the way things work.
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So you pay me money to do this. I'm a, I'm that guy.
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I'm a consultant and that's what these people are.
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These consultants though, they talk to people with a lot more
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money than than I talked to. You know, I've, I've worked with
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big companies. I worked with Silicon Valley
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backed start-ups that are worth 1,000,050 million, $60 million.
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I just worked with a company that is worth 40 million
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dollars, $50 million. And the fact that these people
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and these lobbyist groups, I get it, you make a lot of money
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doing what they do. And all you, all you have to
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really do is talk to a few people that, you know, like,
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hey, you know, I got this company Astro Net XPBC and you
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know, they got this really cool product.
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I want you to take a look at it. And here's what it is, you know,
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and then Astro Net X gives you 50 grand to talk to somebody and
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the consulting space 100% you can make a bunch of money.
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If you do it right and you find the right clients, you can make
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a bunch of money. I have some people that I know
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that are making $300,000 every month doing consulting, not for
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this, not for aerospace, but for business to like large
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businesses, 300 grand and they have a couple clients.
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It's incredible. It's insane the amount of money
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people make. It's insane.
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I don't make that much money, Not as much, not $300,000 a
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month or I'd do it. If I was making $300,000 as
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much, I'd be month, I'd be way too busy to do anything else.
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But if I also made $300,000 a month, I'd work for like a year
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and then I'd be like you know what?
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I'm done. Worked for like 2 years and be
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like you know what, everyone's good, all my friends and family
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are good and then I'd be done. But these little companies that
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can give them $50,000 or X Labs here to give them $10,000, they
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have no chance. You know, X Labs has no chance
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to get in front of the people that they need to get in front
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of in Congress and people, decision makers, the people at
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the top of these companies, so or at the top of these agencies.
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So I get it. I totally get it.
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But SpaceX was like, you know what, don't do it to us.
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He deserves credit for spearheading the creation of the
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Artemis program. That's great.
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After departing NASA, he created a lobbying firm called the
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Artemis Group. So he saw an opportunity.
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Jim Breidenstein, smart guy, saw an opportunity.
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So Jim created this lobbying firm called the Artemis Group.
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Maybe he takes a million because somebody else 250,000 because
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somebody else 250,000 and then he takes a million per year.
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Works four years on this, makes $4 million.
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Him and his family are good, but they represent a large amount of
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companies. Their campaigning against our
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ship is either misguided or intentionally misleading.
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SpaceX was selected to design and develop a HLS for Artemis
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along with Blue Origin Dynetics during Mr. Bryan's tenure as
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NASA administrator. We know this.
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We all know this. And then he's trying to.
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It was confirmed repeatedly following protest and litigation
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from the companies not selected, which delayed the start of work
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on the contract for many months. Yeah, so it's it's a really
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weird situation to be put in, I'm sure for Jim, because he
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probably thinking he's doing the right thing because these small
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companies are trying to get in there and they just can't
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because they don't have the resources to space XS.
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Elon has all the money. And when you have the money, you
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have the power, you have the resources, you have the freedom
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to do whatever you want to do. And Elon is just too powerful
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for anybody to to fight against, right?