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INTERVIEW: Mia Jaye Speaks On Young Dolph's Legacy, Justice, "Black Men Deserve To Grow Old" Initiative + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning Everybody's DJ Envy Charlamagne de goud
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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We also have Laura l Rossa,
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Speaker 2: which is our guest host. We got a special guest
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Speaker 2: in the building. We have missed me and Jay Welcome.
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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, How are you guys?
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Speaker 3: How are you feeling? What's happening?
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty blessed.
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Speaker 3: Good, good good.
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Speaker 2: If you don't know who Mia Jay is, of course
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Speaker 2: she's Young Dol's fiance also the mother of his children.
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Speaker 2: And I just want to say thank you because last
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Speaker 2: year we went on this, well this year we went
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Speaker 2: on a huge car show tour and you allow me
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Speaker 2: to share some of Young Dolph's works with the world
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Speaker 2: cars and artifacts and jewelry, and it was just just
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Speaker 2: an amazing show. So I just want to say thank
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Speaker 2: you for allowing us to do that and show that
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Speaker 2: to the world.
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Speaker 4: For sure, thank you for even inviting us and thinking
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Speaker 4: of us to collaborate together.
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Speaker 2: No, I think it was a great collaboration. I just
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Speaker 2: want to say thank you for that.
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Speaker 5: And I love your Black Men Deserve to Grow Old movement.
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Speaker 5: Help tell people what that is, so that movement. It
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Speaker 5: started off as a campaign.
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Speaker 4: Honestly, I lost my brother in twenty twenty two gun violence.
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Speaker 4: He was an honest working man, had a car dealership.
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Speaker 4: One of his customers took his life. And after that happened,
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Speaker 4: it really devastated me. Like we were three years apart.
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Speaker 4: If you see my children, like just how they interact
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Speaker 4: and gauge, that was me and my brother. So I
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Speaker 4: was just you know, like I couldn't believe that somebody
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Speaker 4: would take his life so frivolously, and so it prompted
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Speaker 4: me to start, you know. And then I also was
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Speaker 4: talking to a girl I went to high school with
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Speaker 4: and people that were around me, like, oh, my brother.
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Speaker 1: Got killed two and the guy who did it, he
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Speaker 1: was out on bond.
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Speaker 4: He was a facing attempted murder and he took my
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Speaker 4: brother life in the process. And it was just happening
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Speaker 4: so much.
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Speaker 1: And we were just talking about like black man deserved
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Speaker 1: to grow.
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Speaker 4: Oh, like that is so messed up, that like it's
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Speaker 4: so risky, the odds be stacked against black man like
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Speaker 4: they are. And so I started it as a campaign
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Speaker 4: just to raise money for a few the family that
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Speaker 4: I were talking to, like the different people who were
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Speaker 4: connected to me that had experienced laws as well as
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Speaker 4: my sister in law, just to be able to help.
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Speaker 4: And I wanted to raise awareness, like y'all this intraracial
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Speaker 4: crime problem that we have, you know, where we're just
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Speaker 4: taking each other's lives real senselessly. The love is lacking.
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Speaker 4: We need to do something about it. So I started
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Speaker 4: it as a campaign in twenty twenty one, and then
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Speaker 4: like three months later, Dolf was taken the same type
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Speaker 4: of way, like just violently, prematurely, without a It's like
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Speaker 4: reason wise, it's like it's not a good reason for
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Speaker 4: these men just to be snatched them for them from
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Speaker 4: their families and communities and stuff. And so it just
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Speaker 4: after his death, it just amplified people listen more. I
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Speaker 4: think the message resonated more like dang, you were talking
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Speaker 4: about that and then it happened to you even closer
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Speaker 4: than it did before. So that's black man deserve to
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Speaker 4: grow oh to a call of action and a message
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Speaker 4: that's meant to be spread within the black community first
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Speaker 4: and foremost that we need to do better amongst one
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Speaker 4: another because we taken fathers from families, like mentors from
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Speaker 4: communities and all of that senselessly.
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Speaker 1: We need to do something about it.
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Speaker 2: How were you holding up? I mean it's I mean
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Speaker 2: it must I must. You must feel it every time
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Speaker 2: there's a court case, every time you hear the music.
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Speaker 2: So how are you doing so?
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Speaker 1: For sure? I mean I feel it.
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Speaker 4: It's like a I relive, I relive my life, you know,
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Speaker 4: like over and over again, like that particular day, the
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Speaker 4: taking of in so many different types of ways. And
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Speaker 4: to be honest with you, the question was asked when
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Speaker 4: we were here, like how do you maintain your strength?
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Speaker 4: I'd be like, man from God, it's no other, it's
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Speaker 4: no other. And I know, as cliche as that may
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Speaker 4: sound for so many like what does that mean? I
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Speaker 4: get how cliche that may sound, but it's like I
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Speaker 4: really don't have a true answer outside of that, because
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Speaker 4: it is heavy. It is a you know, me, me,
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Speaker 4: me using my voice to advocate for the people I
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Speaker 4: love the most that was taken from me violently. And
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Speaker 4: it's not just for them, it's for our whole community,
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Speaker 4: because this could happen to anybody's family, brother, husband, fiance, whoever.
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Speaker 1: And it's like it's heavy, but the burden feels.
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Speaker 4: Very light, and I can't quite explain with that why
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Speaker 4: other than like it gotta be God. You know, he
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Speaker 4: gave me this, He knew when he created me that
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Speaker 4: I was gonna be carrying out this task. I didn't,
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Speaker 4: you know, you couldn't have told me November seventeenth that
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Speaker 4: this was something I was going to have to carry
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Speaker 4: and so for me to be able to stand up,
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Speaker 4: for me to be able to hear his music, all
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Speaker 4: it does is like really feel me when I hear
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Speaker 4: like his interviews. I didn't listen to him like that
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Speaker 4: when he was here because I was too busy being
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Speaker 4: a mom and taking care of the family and doing things,
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Speaker 4: and I just couldn't keep up with everything he had
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Speaker 4: going on. But now when I listen, it's like I
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Speaker 4: feel like he's giving me messages or I take them
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Speaker 4: as messages of encouragement and just like keeping me going.
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Speaker 4: And you know, like I don't know, i'd be thankful
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Speaker 4: that he has so much on Wax.
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Speaker 3: You know, I wonder about that.
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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think you have a truly heal
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Speaker 5: from the tape of trauma you experience, but when you
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Speaker 5: constantly see you know, his interviews or you know videos,
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Speaker 5: because you know, I feel like I'm always seeing off
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Speaker 5: on my timeline.
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Speaker 3: Is that that help or her?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it helps because it's it's peace.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 1: He brought peace in my life like that. That life
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Speaker 1: that I.
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Speaker 4: Spent with him, it was a beautiful time in my life,
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Speaker 4: even though in the thick of it, I'm gonna be honest,
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Speaker 4: you know, you go through so much with people, but
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Speaker 4: the good definitely always outweigh the bad. And it's like
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Speaker 4: when I reflect on who he was to me, it's
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Speaker 4: like I smile, Like it's like I hear his laugh
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Speaker 4: or so many things that sparks a memory from the
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Speaker 4: time that I enjoyed the most, you know, so I
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Speaker 4: doa It's like I feel good to hear him, see him.
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Speaker 1: I smile. You know.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes I could shed tears, but they're not always tears
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Speaker 4: of sorrow. It's because I've now accepted that we're only
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Speaker 4: here for a fin out amount of time and we
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Speaker 4: ain't meant to be here forever. I all gotta check
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Speaker 4: out at some point, and unfortunately he did.
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Speaker 1: But I love hearing him and seeing him.
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Speaker 2: How did y'all meet?
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Speaker 4: We met So I was in college in Memphis and
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Speaker 4: my roommate at the time, she was like, it's a
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Speaker 4: guy I want to introduce you to. She was friends
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Speaker 4: with one of his friends, and I'm like, listen, anybody
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Speaker 4: that's associated with Homeboys, birds of I'm straight?
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Speaker 1: No, And she was like, he can he rap?
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Speaker 4: And I listened to the music. I wasn't into rap
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Speaker 4: at that time in my life at all. I was
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Speaker 4: listening to like neo so so I have a background
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Speaker 4: in like music, but like classical jazz, neo, soul, gospel,
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Speaker 4: all of that, right, Jillott, all of that, that's my energy.
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Speaker 1: That is really my energy always has been.
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Speaker 4: So when she would play him, I'm like, listen, I'm straight,
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Speaker 4: Like I'm straight, But once I actually met him, she
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Speaker 4: said that for a long time. Once we actually met,
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Speaker 4: he was really too cool for school for me. Like
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Speaker 4: we met at the mall finally and he like put
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Speaker 4: your number.
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Speaker 1: On my phone. Look like boy, like you too cool
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Speaker 1: for me? But whatever, and.
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Speaker 4: We just it was just a real easy going like
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Speaker 4: we just got up as friends.
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Speaker 1: And when he spoke and when we talked and when
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Speaker 1: we you know, just kicked it, I was like, dang, he.
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Speaker 4: Really is filled with some substance, like he's very intelligent
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Speaker 4: or he's very focused and determined, so all of those things.
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Speaker 4: It was those character traits that really attracted me to him,
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Speaker 4: and after a long time I was like I don't.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I fell in love with him because he
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Speaker 4: was like different than what the eye just saw. You know,
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Speaker 4: when you talk about like the interviews that you watch
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Speaker 4: that make you smile, or maybe you start your day
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Speaker 4: with what's like one of your go to things or
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Speaker 4: like messages that he has out in the world. To
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Speaker 4: be honest, it's really one of his songs. The one
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Speaker 4: of the songs when I really my go to is
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Speaker 4: like this song called you Got It with Vito, and
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Speaker 4: I feel like he talking to me. I mean when
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Speaker 4: he was here and he played the songs like oh
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Speaker 4: are you talking about me?
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Speaker 1: But it's like.
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Speaker 4: This, you know, like baby you got it? You look
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Speaker 4: like a god, you got me? Like the worst that
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Speaker 4: he's saying. It's like when I need to be picked up,
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Speaker 4: like to find another one like you I doubt it,
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Speaker 4: you know, just all of these different types of things,
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Speaker 4: like it's girlless your world. They can't do nothing about it,
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Speaker 4: Like it's something that breathes life into me, like just
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Speaker 4: keep going that he will, he will, he will be
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Speaker 4: proud of you just for keeping going.
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm seeing you speak out about the criminal
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Speaker 5: case and you said that you've had some frustrations, Like
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Speaker 5: you've been advocating for a fair trial.
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Speaker 3: What do you mean when you say a fair trial?
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Speaker 4: So it's a lot of things. It's a lot of
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Speaker 4: things obviously I can't say. But the thing is is
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Speaker 4: that you know, each victim, they have Victims of Victims
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Speaker 4: Bill of Rights right, and you're supposed to communicate with them,
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Speaker 4: you're supposed to update them. It's been things that like
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Speaker 4: I've been updated via the media, you know, and it's
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Speaker 4: just a form of disrespect that I felt like why
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Speaker 4: should I get on the internet and see anything there first,
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Speaker 4: you know, And I just feel like the courtesy let
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Speaker 4: us know. It's been things that, you know, just the
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Speaker 4: way I feel like the family was being handled, just
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Speaker 4: as when.
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Speaker 1: They do give us updates and we're like, oh, we
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Speaker 1: don't like how that.
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Speaker 4: You know that that don't sound kind of right, like
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Speaker 4: a low bond like that, and it's like, well, this
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Speaker 4: is what we're doing. And I've talked to other people,
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Speaker 4: consulting with other attorneys and US former US attorneys and.
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Speaker 1: They're like, well, you know, your voice should be heard.
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Speaker 4: Like, if it's something that you guys are not really liking,
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Speaker 4: it doesn't sit well. Like have they tried to, you know,
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Speaker 4: talk to you guys about meeting in a better common
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Speaker 4: ground or presenting different types of terms.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's pretty much like this is what
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Speaker 1: it is. You like it, this is what we're doing.
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Speaker 4: And you know, it's a U, it's a it's a state,
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Speaker 4: it's a US case, and so it's not a Doff
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Speaker 4: case or whatever the case may be. But I'm like, listen,
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Speaker 4: this is not fair the way that this is being handled.
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Speaker 4: And if we have rights as victims, like, let's honor
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Speaker 4: those rights and let's respect the family, and let's do
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Speaker 4: a better job of communicating and making sure that the
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Speaker 4: family is you know, in agreement with what's going on
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Speaker 4: a little bit more if there especially if it's room
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Speaker 4: for that, let's make.
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Speaker 1: Room for that.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on Memphis? How do you feel about Memphis,
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Speaker 2: Because of course Memphis, he was killed in Memphis, but
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Speaker 2: Memphis has so much love for Dolph, right, and I've
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Speaker 2: seen it at the csture we did in Memphis. I
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Speaker 2: mean the amount of people that came out and was
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Speaker 2: crying and just happy to see everything from his artifacts
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Speaker 2: to how it was built, to the Dolph Museum that
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Speaker 2: was built. What's your thoughts on that because he took
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Speaker 2: your baby.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no for sure, and my brother because my brother
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Speaker 4: was there too. You know, it's bittersweet for me because
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Speaker 4: Memphis is very supportive even of me, the movement, my kids,
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Speaker 4: just everything, you know, like Dolph, and it's really like
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Speaker 4: kind of split. Like for me, it's very hard because
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Speaker 4: I'm this person that's like listen like me, you w
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Speaker 4: with me, you not like like just get away from
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Speaker 4: me type of thing. And it's kind of hard with
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Speaker 4: it being a city where you know, you could be
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Speaker 4: in support. Over here you could be in support. They're
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Speaker 4: just different types of places and stuff like that, and
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Speaker 4: it makes me feel uncomfortable because I'd be like, where
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Speaker 4: are you really staying? I feel like that's what kind
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Speaker 4: of be in the back of my mind in a sense.
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Speaker 4: And you know, safety wise is just like not even
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Speaker 4: just in terms of off it's just like it keeps
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Speaker 4: seem like it's being worse and worse, and not just
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Speaker 4: in Memphis, but in a lot of urban areas where
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Speaker 4: for me safety wise, I'm like, listen, I don't want
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Speaker 4: to be nowhere near it, you know. But at the
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Speaker 4: same time, it's so hard not to because he did
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Speaker 4: love that place, and there is so much work to
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Speaker 4: be done and there is a huge support And I
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Speaker 4: do have love for Memphis because that's where I did
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Speaker 4: my my my growing years. I grew up as a
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Speaker 4: young woman in Memphis, So I definitely have love.
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Speaker 1: But it's very bittersweet, is it true?
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Speaker 3: To judges removed from the case.
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Speaker 4: It was, That's what that was one of the things
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Speaker 4: that I learned via the internet, via social media. Why
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Speaker 4: why so how I how I understand it.
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Speaker 1: He was removed because there was a one of the.
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Speaker 4: What you call them, uh he made a song in
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Speaker 4: jail and he was reprimanded by the judge.
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Speaker 1: But the jug judge didn't.
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Speaker 4: Follow the proper protocol and reprimanding him, and so for
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Speaker 4: that he had to, you know, recuse himself, which basically like, hey,
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Speaker 4: you know, if this wouldn't have happened now later on
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Speaker 4: down the line, it could have been like we want
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Speaker 4: to yeah or something like that. So I see the benefit,
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Speaker 4: but also it's just it was just so many things
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Speaker 4: about it that questions that I had, like, you know,
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Speaker 4: kind of it's just a lot and I guess you
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Speaker 4: have to understand a legal system for how those type
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Speaker 4: of technicalities happen.
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Speaker 1: But it's basically how it happened.
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Speaker 4: But he's a season judge, you know, very season of
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Speaker 4: I've done my research on him, very fair. Seemed like
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Speaker 4: he would be very appropriate for the case. But things
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Speaker 4: have happened in a different type of ways.
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Speaker 5: So I am shocked one of that Definis got bond
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Speaker 5: though for a crime so heinous.
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Speaker 4: I'm shocked when you asked about that, What was the
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Speaker 4: explanation of, like even just the number. Well, they're very vague,
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Speaker 4: you know, so and I get that, like and I
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Speaker 4: honor the vagueness because there is a sense incitivity that
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Speaker 4: you got to protect information and stuff. So they weren't
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Speaker 4: very direct about why that happened, right, but they said
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Speaker 4: that this was one of the best this was a
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Speaker 4: decision that they had to.
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Speaker 1: Make that they feel like they were making a pretty
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Speaker 1: much good decision. So we gotta wait and see.
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Speaker 4: You just have to trust so much right now and
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Speaker 4: things that you don't understand. Is that really tough, Like
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Speaker 4: what do you worry about most when it comes to
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Speaker 4: the case, And you know what, I'm glad you just said.
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Speaker 4: It's like the trust so much. That's where that's why
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Speaker 4: it pulls you. It Like for me, I've just been
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Speaker 4: pulled to like you gotta just trust God. You gotta
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Speaker 4: lean not to your own understanding. You gotta lean to
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Speaker 4: God's understanding because I will never understand why he was
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Speaker 4: taken to why the process is like what it is
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Speaker 4: to so many different types of things. And that's why
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Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, you know what, let me just
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Speaker 4: make sure my heart stay in the right type of
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Speaker 4: posture and condition so my prayers can be honored, like
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Speaker 4: that justice will be served and that I will one
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Speaker 4: day understand soon enough, you know, cause it's nothing. I
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Speaker 4: can't sit back and just keep worrying about it because
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Speaker 4: it's not going to do any justice for my body,
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Speaker 4: my physical health, my mental health, my spiritual health, me
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Speaker 4: being able to have the strength to keep going for
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Speaker 4: my children. I just got to be able to trust
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Speaker 4: in the process and just know that like everything is
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Speaker 4: gonna work out for the good.
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Speaker 5: You know how much of it it's too much to
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Speaker 5: take in, Like you know, because I'm do you.
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Speaker 3: Want to know the why and the who and the what.
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Speaker 1: Do I do?
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Speaker 4: I want to know the why and the who. I
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Speaker 4: want to know those I mean, don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 4: I'm sure as once that time comes and it's those
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Speaker 4: those k those actual trials come, I'm gonna probably be shaking.
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Speaker 4: And I know I probably will because when my brother
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Speaker 4: I said in like one of his like so dos
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Speaker 4: doss taking kind of overshadowed my brothers, right, but in
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Speaker 4: the beginning of my brothers, I will go and I
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Speaker 4: was listening and just hearing the defendant talk and whatever case,
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Speaker 4: maybe I was just shaking, like I cannot believe this.
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Speaker 1: It was so just surreal.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was like I can't quite explain how
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Speaker 4: I was feeling. But it's gonna take a lot out
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Speaker 4: of me. But it's just something I'm gonna have to take.
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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna have to take it because I do
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Speaker 4: want to know why, because I need that type of understanding,
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Speaker 4: like why would you you know, what was so severe
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Speaker 4: for that to happen?
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Speaker 1: You know, Like I just wanted I need to know the.
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Speaker 2: Facts and how are your kids doing?
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Speaker 1: My kids? To be honest, they're doing a lot better.
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Speaker 1: You know. I was listening to.
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Speaker 4: This interview the other day with Charleston White, and he
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Speaker 4: was talking about the effects of like young boys or whatever,
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Speaker 4: and they get so angry, and when they're young, they
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Speaker 4: don't have their fathers, they have so much anger pens
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Speaker 4: up in them, and they end up channeling that anger
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Speaker 4: in different types of ways and end up wanting to
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Speaker 4: take somebody's life and this and that or whatever. And
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Speaker 4: when I was listening to it, my son, I recognize
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Speaker 4: my son after his father passed up until like probably
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Speaker 4: the beginning of this year, so angry and it was
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Speaker 4: never that child like he when I.
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Speaker 1: Tell you like stellar child. He was that.
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Speaker 4: But he was so angry and like I'm talking about
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Speaker 4: like if I was like give me the phone, he like, no,
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Speaker 4: Like he want to step up to me, anybody he
16:04
Speaker 4: had step up to anybody, and he so as traumatal.
16:07
Speaker 3: He's just projecting the pain and the herd he feels
16:09
Speaker 3: from losing his father.
16:10
Speaker 4: He was but like he said, you gotta channel that,
16:13
Speaker 4: and I understood it, and it was making me mad.
16:15
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm like listen, I'm restraining myself right now because
16:18
Speaker 4: you got me messed up, coming at me like that.
16:20
Speaker 4: But I was like, I'm gonna find a proper help
16:22
Speaker 4: for you. So I put him in a mentorship program,
16:24
Speaker 4: in a karate program, and he even tried his karate
16:28
Speaker 4: coach or whatever, like if you see this big guy
16:29
Speaker 4: right here, he about that size, and he was like,
16:31
Speaker 4: I'm about to let him know I ain't scared of him.
16:33
Speaker 1: I'm scared of not.
16:34
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm tired of not speaking up and saying.
16:36
Speaker 4: He was seven years old at the time, seven years
16:39
Speaker 4: old talking about I'm or eight years old. I'm tired
16:41
Speaker 4: of not letting him, you know, like making him feel
16:44
Speaker 4: like I'm scared of him.
16:45
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't think he thinks you
16:46
Speaker 1: scared of him. He was like, well, I'm gonna speak up.
16:47
Speaker 1: He spoke up. He stepped to the dude.
16:49
Speaker 4: He got picked up by his little karate siu up
16:51
Speaker 4: in the air about six feet off the ground or
16:54
Speaker 4: about three.
16:54
Speaker 1: Feet off the ground, and he got dealt with.
16:57
Speaker 4: And I had to allow it to happen because I mean,
16:59
Speaker 4: it was hard to watch.
17:01
Speaker 1: But there when it happened, yeah, I was there. I
17:03
Speaker 1: had to walk out because I.
17:03
Speaker 4: Was like, listen, I just don't know, but I needed
17:07
Speaker 4: to let it happen because I did respect his mentor
17:10
Speaker 4: his his his culture whatnot, and it needed to happen.
17:13
Speaker 4: And from that day on, he ain't tried me, him nobody,
17:16
Speaker 4: And he told the coach told him like, man, you
17:18
Speaker 4: got a spirit just trying to.
17:19
Speaker 1: Get you to to uh to self destruct. You angry,
17:22
Speaker 1: I understand, but you need to learn how to control?
17:24
Speaker 1: Is self control? Is everything? Right?
17:26
Speaker 4: And afterwards I was like, what did that used to
17:28
Speaker 4: always say? He was like, if you're not in control,
17:29
Speaker 4: you out of control. And I was like, so we
17:31
Speaker 4: need to stay in control because being out of control,
17:33
Speaker 4: like you got to maintain self control. And so we
17:36
Speaker 4: work through those and when I tell you, from that
17:38
Speaker 4: day and just one going, my son, it's like a
17:41
Speaker 4: burden was lifted off of him and he's doing so
17:44
Speaker 4: much better, so much back kind of to his old
17:46
Speaker 4: ways and his old self. And I'd be thankful for that,
17:50
Speaker 4: just for channeling that energy in the right type of direction.
17:53
Speaker 5: You know, do you think it's more than dusts uh murder,
17:56
Speaker 5: than just what what what we know?
17:59
Speaker 4: You know, gut wise, gut wise, I be feeling like that,
18:04
Speaker 4: but then I just be like, you know, I don't know,
18:06
Speaker 4: and I just don't believe and sending myself down a
18:10
Speaker 4: rabbit hole, you know, based on yeah, just any of
18:15
Speaker 4: that I had to, you know, cause it's a lot
18:17
Speaker 4: that was out there and you cannot get caught up
18:19
Speaker 4: in that. Like it's so many people. It'd be people
18:21
Speaker 4: trying to was trying to talk about him like they
18:23
Speaker 4: knew Hi. I'm like, I slept with this man every night.
18:25
Speaker 1: Like y'all don't know him. What are you talking about?
18:28
Speaker 5: Like?
18:28
Speaker 4: But and I'm like, so my gut feelings are totally
18:31
Speaker 4: you know, they could be totally different. But even that,
18:33
Speaker 4: like I don't know. I don't have the facts. I
18:36
Speaker 4: don't know the answers. I don't know. So even when
18:38
Speaker 4: people misquote me or take pieces of anything I may say,
18:42
Speaker 4: it's like I said, I don't know. I want to know.
18:46
Speaker 4: I pray for knowledge and understanding and all of that.
18:49
Speaker 4: Don't get it twisted with me saying anything based on
18:52
Speaker 4: what's already been presented, Like I'm just based on what's
18:55
Speaker 4: been presented, I may have an opinion about it, but
18:57
Speaker 4: ultimately nobody, even the stuff that's been presented, nobody truly knows,
19:01
Speaker 4: do you have.
19:01
Speaker 3: Any concerns that justice won't be served.
19:05
Speaker 1: I don't.
19:06
Speaker 4: I don't have that cause I just I really really
19:10
Speaker 4: stay a firm stand, real firm that it will. And
19:12
Speaker 4: I don't even want to start to allow myself to
19:16
Speaker 4: diverge into different ways of thinking that it won't, Like
19:19
Speaker 4: I don't.
19:19
Speaker 1: Even want that.
19:20
Speaker 4: That's because that's a negativity to me, Like that ain't
19:22
Speaker 4: nothing but a negative thought. And I can't even let
19:25
Speaker 4: that just enter inside of me or you know, like
19:28
Speaker 4: take over me or even be a thought like I
19:30
Speaker 4: gotta have positive thoughts and justice will be served, you know?
19:33
Speaker 2: Can you break down mind frame early on?
19:36
Speaker 4: Right?
19:36
Speaker 2: And the reason I ask is before the Breakfast Club,
19:40
Speaker 2: it's sixteen seventeen years ago. Doff always had a mind
19:43
Speaker 2: frame of what he wanted to do business wise, right,
19:45
Speaker 2: He never signed to a major. He didn't want to
19:47
Speaker 2: sign to a major. Everything was independent.
19:50
Speaker 3: You know.
19:50
Speaker 2: Most of that comes from of course, you're queen, you're
19:52
Speaker 2: having conversations late at night, So explain that mind frame
19:54
Speaker 2: of where it came from and what was some of
19:56
Speaker 2: the thought process back then.
19:58
Speaker 1: Minds are his both so I think Doff like he just.
20:02
Speaker 4: Really believed in ownership he did, and I think that
20:06
Speaker 4: ultimately he.
20:08
Speaker 1: I don't know, Doff almost like he used to.
20:11
Speaker 4: Always say like he didn't think he was gonna be
20:13
Speaker 4: there long, like he was gonna live long, right, And.
20:15
Speaker 1: He used to say that because he felt like that.
20:18
Speaker 4: It was so many he has so many near death experiences,
20:21
Speaker 4: Like I used to be like, you like a cat
20:22
Speaker 4: O nine lives, Like literally I'm talking about before any
20:24
Speaker 4: of the ones that we know about publicly. I'm talking
20:27
Speaker 4: about car accidents to all type of stuff.
20:31
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
20:31
Speaker 4: And he is like every time he made a new year,
20:34
Speaker 4: you know, he was just like I'm just thankful. I'm
20:37
Speaker 4: grateful to be here. But I think that he wanted
20:39
Speaker 4: to leave something behind. He wanted to do something for
20:43
Speaker 4: his family that, you know, like to just set them up.
20:45
Speaker 4: And I think ownership in his mind, like what he
20:48
Speaker 4: knew about it and what he was learning about it,
20:49
Speaker 4: Like if I don't own it, you know what I'm saying,
20:52
Speaker 4: what can I really pass down like that, you know,
20:54
Speaker 4: even at some point of the physicles. So I think
20:56
Speaker 4: it was a lot of that, and it was that determination,
20:58
Speaker 4: like I want to do something for my family within
21:00
Speaker 4: my lifetime I want to set my family up in
21:03
Speaker 4: a way that you know, it'd account for generations, like
21:06
Speaker 4: cause he would talk about generational and I was like,
21:09
Speaker 4: you know, when we would have those conversations, I was like, yeah,
21:11
Speaker 4: when I was in school, I'm a finance major. I
21:13
Speaker 4: was like, I always wanted to, you know, set up
21:15
Speaker 4: generational wealth, but they ain't teach me about that in school, right,
21:18
Speaker 4: And so we would talk about it and I was like, yeah.
21:20
Speaker 1: It was like I was there with him, but I
21:22
Speaker 1: ain't gonna even be I'm gonna be real with you.
21:23
Speaker 4: Like even me at that time, a lot of conversations
21:26
Speaker 4: like I would have them with them, but I didn't
21:28
Speaker 4: understand what that looked like to even build it, even
21:31
Speaker 4: the type of ownership. I didn't understand what all that
21:34
Speaker 4: meant and looked like. And now that he's gone, it's like, oh,
21:37
Speaker 4: that's what are you talking about? I see now, you know.
21:39
Speaker 4: And so, but he was just like light years ahead
21:42
Speaker 4: and I just looking back when we would have those conversations,
21:45
Speaker 4: y'all'm gonna be there boo, yeah, generational wealth us. You know,
21:48
Speaker 4: the saying I'm there with you what you need me
21:50
Speaker 4: to do. But I didn't really understand his I didn't.
21:53
Speaker 4: I didn't understand at that time.
21:55
Speaker 3: Is it true he owned over one hundred properties?
21:56
Speaker 4: Insis Goff owned property not just in Memphis, but he
22:01
Speaker 4: owns properties just like across.
22:04
Speaker 1: The you know, just the Nate like the country or whatever.
22:07
Speaker 1: So it's not just in Memphis.
22:09
Speaker 4: And he did do a lot of investing in the
22:11
Speaker 4: right areas, you know, like he he would just reinvest
22:14
Speaker 4: his money really wisely, you know, and different types of
22:18
Speaker 4: adventures and things like that. So he definitely was, just
22:21
Speaker 4: like I said, just very committed to establishing you know,
22:26
Speaker 4: just like I said the bombstones for generational wealth. Yeah,
22:31
Speaker 4: thank god, thank god, thank god. Like we are what's
22:36
Speaker 4: your day to day like now? Like as a mom
22:38
Speaker 4: as a business owner? I think you know, we talked
22:41
Speaker 4: to you a lot about like golf, but like what
22:43
Speaker 4: what what are you like on a day to day
22:45
Speaker 4: as a business woman because of all of that that
22:47
Speaker 4: you got to watch and be a part of. Man
22:50
Speaker 4: like I'm gonna say, running around with a chicken, like
22:53
Speaker 4: a chicken with my head cut off and not like
22:54
Speaker 4: seriously because it really everything works its way out. But
22:58
Speaker 4: you know it's like I'm taking on me daddy, business, Like,
23:01
Speaker 4: I have so much more responsibility than when he was here, right, And.
23:07
Speaker 1: It's just like I had to take off multiple hats.
23:09
Speaker 4: So I start off the day I'm mommy, you know
23:11
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, making sure lunches get out, all of
23:13
Speaker 4: the same stuff I used to do. Lunches get out,
23:16
Speaker 4: breakfast gets made, kids get out to school. Then I'm
23:19
Speaker 4: working on various parts of my business, the advocacy part
23:23
Speaker 4: of my business, trying to actually, like you know, y'all,
23:26
Speaker 4: to make money.
23:26
Speaker 1: To keep the business sustaining itself and stuff like that.
23:29
Speaker 4: So that part of it, leading a team doing that,
23:31
Speaker 4: having to cut that off clean, like you know. So
23:33
Speaker 4: when my kids come home, they have me back, and
23:36
Speaker 4: that's such a I can say. When he was here,
23:38
Speaker 4: he didn't want me to work at all. Like anything
23:40
Speaker 4: that I was doing at that time in his life.
23:42
Speaker 4: He probably was like, you're getting on my nerves. Can
23:44
Speaker 4: you just be in the kitchen cook us some good meals.
23:47
Speaker 1: Make a smoothie.
23:48
Speaker 4: I don't know y'all had any one time he's like,
23:49
Speaker 4: can you make me a smoothie? But just doing all
23:52
Speaker 4: of these things, keeping the family together, that was my priority,
23:56
Speaker 4: and you know, the only way that he bought into
23:58
Speaker 4: it was that I used to be like, let me
24:00
Speaker 4: do my chores first and then I.
24:01
Speaker 1: Go do my business.
24:02
Speaker 4: Right, So now that's the same mindset that I have, like, Okay,
24:05
Speaker 4: let me do my chores. My chores is being there
24:07
Speaker 4: for my kids, doing homework, all of that stuff. Once
24:10
Speaker 4: that's done, then you can do whatever you want to
24:12
Speaker 4: do business wise. And that's kind of I'm juggling that
24:15
Speaker 4: and it becomes very chaotic and a lot, but I'm
24:17
Speaker 4: getting through it.
24:19
Speaker 1: I'm getting through it.
24:19
Speaker 3: Were y'all planning the wedding, we.
24:21
Speaker 4: Weren't like so we we were in that like listen,
24:25
Speaker 4: we were just we had just told our therapists or whatever,
24:28
Speaker 4: like we're ready to start doing Premier. We were doing
24:32
Speaker 4: therapy and it was I would recommend that to anybody.
24:35
Speaker 4: If you want to break stuff of wanting to like
24:38
Speaker 4: walk away or anything within your relationship, go to therapy first.
24:42
Speaker 1: And we had a faith based therapist and.
24:43
Speaker 4: That really helped us a lot, because that's really where
24:47
Speaker 4: relationships starts or whatever. And it started to I could
24:50
Speaker 4: even see the changes in him, like with our like
24:53
Speaker 4: the what is the duty of a husband? And you know,
24:55
Speaker 4: like the you're the leader of the household, and so
24:57
Speaker 4: a lot of things, like when she would put things
24:59
Speaker 4: in certain time ways, he was grasping it.
25:01
Speaker 1: He was changing.
25:02
Speaker 4: I could see how he was dealing with me and
25:04
Speaker 4: me too, what's the duties of a wife? And so
25:06
Speaker 4: we got to a point where we was like, we
25:07
Speaker 4: cannot wait to like celebrate this moment because we'd come
25:11
Speaker 4: a long way. And so she had just sent me,
25:13
Speaker 4: like on November fifteenth, she had just sent me to
25:15
Speaker 4: questions for the Premieral Counseling and I was like, okay,
25:19
Speaker 4: well he comes back from out of town.
25:21
Speaker 1: He had left that Monday. Let's see.
25:23
Speaker 4: I think that was the same day that he left
25:25
Speaker 4: to go to Memphis. Was the day she sent it
25:27
Speaker 4: to me. And I was like, okay, our sessions was
25:29
Speaker 4: on Wednesday. I was like, he gonna be out of town,
25:31
Speaker 4: but once he comes back, we're gonna get on so
25:33
Speaker 4: we can start doing this. And one of my girlfriends
25:35
Speaker 4: was planning like a big party of future actually, and
25:40
Speaker 4: I was like, as soon as you get done.
25:41
Speaker 1: She was a wedding planner.
25:42
Speaker 4: I was like, as soon as you get done with that,
25:43
Speaker 4: we're gonna send our a little deposit and get started
25:45
Speaker 4: and it's gonna it was gonna be a surprise wedding.
25:47
Speaker 1: We didn't want.
25:47
Speaker 4: We wanted people to show up for my birthday and
25:50
Speaker 4: they thought they was coming to like a ball, a
25:52
Speaker 4: gala or whatever, and we were gonna get married. And
25:54
Speaker 4: he wanted his parents to have their vows renewed there.
25:58
Speaker 4: And that's where we were in the planning phase of things.
26:01
Speaker 4: It was like, we're ready to celebrate how far we've come,
26:04
Speaker 4: and that that that Wednesday came and it was like
26:07
Speaker 4: you could have never paid me to believe that we
26:10
Speaker 4: wasn't going to have a chance to dive in like
26:12
Speaker 4: the questions. I was like, these questions good, Like I
26:14
Speaker 4: cannot wait to go into therapy with him with these
26:17
Speaker 4: and we just never made it there, never.
26:20
Speaker 1: Made it there.
26:20
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry that you got to go through any
26:23
Speaker 5: of this. You know, that's why your organization, your movement
26:26
Speaker 5: is so important that you even just putting that into
26:28
Speaker 5: the universe. Black men deserve to grow old. Yes we
26:32
Speaker 5: do black women as well, but yes, black men definitely,
26:35
Speaker 5: you know. So it's just yeah, man, I just I'm
26:37
Speaker 5: sending you healing energy always.
26:38
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I really do.
26:40
Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us.
26:42
Speaker 3: How can people find moment and everything?
26:45
Speaker 4: The future is to amplify this message, to continue to
26:50
Speaker 4: create dope products, like I look at this like anything
26:53
Speaker 4: to say black men deserve to grow old. Like when
26:55
Speaker 4: people wear you're like a walking billboard, like you're spreading
26:58
Speaker 4: a message, like when from one black man to another
27:01
Speaker 4: wearing it. It's like at this point, this is like
27:03
Speaker 4: a piece, like you know, like a sign of piece,
27:06
Speaker 4: like bro, I'm not coming for you, like I'm with you,
27:08
Speaker 4: Like you deserve a girl. Oh I deserve a girl. Oh,
27:11
Speaker 4: it's embodying love for one another. You don't got to
27:13
Speaker 4: know somebody to have love for them to just have like, man,
27:16
Speaker 4: I want to see you make it home to your family,
27:18
Speaker 4: just like I want to make it to mine. That's
27:20
Speaker 4: the message that I want to kind of just be
27:22
Speaker 4: resonating as you see person a person a person. I
27:25
Speaker 4: want this to be something that's global, like people are
27:28
Speaker 4: walking across just different areas and stuff like that and
27:33
Speaker 4: seeing this message.
27:34
Speaker 1: And the thing is is not to say that nobody
27:35
Speaker 1: else deserved a girl.
27:36
Speaker 4: Oh we all do you know, but the odds stacked
27:40
Speaker 4: the good up against a black man's life, not even
27:42
Speaker 4: as much as a black woman, but a black man
27:44
Speaker 4: like you walk out your door in the morning, you're
27:46
Speaker 4: just trying to provide a living or your family. It
27:48
Speaker 4: can come from a police trying to you know what
27:51
Speaker 4: I'm saying, think that you're a thug, or you doing.
27:53
Speaker 1: Something you wasn't supposed to be doing and your life
27:54
Speaker 1: being snatched.
27:55
Speaker 4: It could be a dude that's been watching you, like, bro,
27:58
Speaker 4: you've been coming up, Yo, you get money out here.
28:00
Speaker 1: Let me let me snatch that up off of you
28:02
Speaker 1: and taking your life.
28:03
Speaker 4: It could be so many different types of ways, and
28:05
Speaker 4: that that backbone of our community, you know, like our society,
28:09
Speaker 4: like we need strong black.
28:10
Speaker 1: Males to help guid the young males.
28:13
Speaker 4: I can't teach myself, like in that situation, I told y'all,
28:15
Speaker 4: I can't teach my son how to be a man
28:17
Speaker 4: or how to be fearless, or he gonna have to
28:19
Speaker 4: hear that from another man, and it would the best
28:22
Speaker 4: person is his father, you know, especially if he can
28:25
Speaker 4: be healthy and whole to be able to show up
28:27
Speaker 4: and be that mentor for his family, you know. And
28:30
Speaker 4: so we just need them to grow old so they
28:32
Speaker 4: can be able to learn and gain wisdom and give
28:34
Speaker 4: that wisdom and mentorship is needed in our community so
28:38
Speaker 4: we can flourish as a community. Otherwise we're just gonna
28:41
Speaker 4: continue to have a genocide happening before our very eyes.
28:45
Speaker 2: How can people follow you and purchase some hoodies and
28:47
Speaker 2: sweatshirts if they want so.
28:48
Speaker 4: They can follow Black Men Deserve to Grow Old on
28:51
Speaker 4: ig on all platforms. Black Men Deserve to Grow old.
28:57
Speaker 1: Go to b M D t g O.
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Speaker 4: We shorten it for y'all. H B M D t
29:02
Speaker 4: g O's just the acronym for Black men Deserve to
29:04
Speaker 4: Grow Old.
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Speaker 1: Dot com.
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Speaker 4: You can follow me at I Am a J on
29:08
Speaker 4: ig and platforms as well. But we just like, yeah,
29:13
Speaker 4: just go in there, buy something, show your support, your advocacy,
29:16
Speaker 4: help us spread this message because that's what's.
29:18
Speaker 2: Needed, all right, And we thank you again for joining us.
29:20
Speaker 3: We appreciate you absolutely. It's me a J.
29:23
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 3: Good morning,