Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Why people are rushing to leave Kyiv before winter
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ukraine's capital is under attack around the clock. It's been
- 0:03Speaker 1: going on since August. Russia's drone and missile strikes come
- 0:11Speaker 1: by day and night. Looks like there's been another attack.
- 0:19Speaker 1: More thick black smoke rising over the city. Sometimes Kyiv
- 0:24Speaker 1: is on alert for hours on end. People here are
- 0:28Speaker 1: used to danger. But this is already the worst period
- 0:30Speaker 1: since 2022. Not only that, but the air is getting colder.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Winter isn't far off. Everyone remembers last winter. The freezing temperatures,
- 0:42Speaker 1: the long nights without electricity or heat, the struggle to
- 0:46Speaker 1: survive while Russia attacked the energy grid. So what would
- 0:50Speaker 1: you do if your city was under attack and the
- 0:52Speaker 1: temperature was dropping? Would you try and stick it out
- 0:56Speaker 1: or would you try and escape? And if so, where
- 0:58Speaker 1: would you go? We've come here to Kyiv to meet
- 1:01Speaker 1: three women trying to figure that out. Irina hasn't decided
- 1:07Speaker 1: what to do, but a missile attack has forced her
- 1:09Speaker 1: out of her home and her daughter is terrified. Olena
- 1:14Speaker 1: is moving to the countryside in search of peace and quiet.
- 1:20Speaker 1: And Maria is leaving the country, packing up and taking
- 1:23Speaker 1: her children abroad.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I don't feel safe in Ukraine in any way. I
- 1:30Speaker 2: can't rest.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Artur and Kira were born after Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022.
- 1:39Speaker 1: The war is all they've ever known. But Maria's never
- 1:42Speaker 1: thought of leaving before.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Then I thought that I would be the last person
- 1:49Speaker 2: who left Ukraine. Because why?
- 1:52Speaker 3: How?
- 1:54Speaker 4: What is the reason?
- 1:57Speaker 1: Life in Kyiv in the past year has given Maria
- 1:59Speaker 1: plenty of reasons.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Last winter was very difficult in Kyiv. Some weeks and
- 2:04Speaker 2: days were really unbearable. What do you take for yourself?
- 2:10Speaker 2: Most of all, this winter was not typically cold. We
- 2:14Speaker 2: were not even prepared for such temperatures. On the one hand,
- 2:17Speaker 2: it was very beautiful, snowy, but those shelling and damage
- 2:21Speaker 2: to the energy system, the heating, they just made life
- 2:25Speaker 2: in the city unbearable. And in such conditions, you couldn't survive.
- 2:39Speaker 2: So I started to think that I don't want to
- 2:42Speaker 2: experience another winter like this.
- 2:48Speaker 1: When did you decide we're not going to do that again?
- 2:50Speaker 2: Everything changed at the end of August, at the beginning
- 2:53Speaker 2: of September, when Kyiv began to be shelled all day long.
- 2:58Speaker 2: This was the second strike on the 6th of July
- 3:00Speaker 2: directly to our hallway. Kyiv is more dangerous now than
- 3:04Speaker 2: it's been for ages. Irina says this is where a
- 3:06Speaker 2: missile landed in July. Her apartment is on the third floor.
- 3:29Speaker 1: The sound must have been incredible.
- 3:31Speaker 5: And the shaking, we felt like you can imagine that
- 3:36Speaker 5: the whole just jumped and settled again.
- 3:44Speaker 1: This is what it looked like immediately afterwards. As we
- 3:52Speaker 1: were visiting, we could hear the city's air defence teams
- 3:55Speaker 1: trying to shoot down a drone. The new ones fly
- 4:00Speaker 1: high and fast, but they seem to have hit something.
- 4:07Speaker 1: We should probably head out. For now, Irina and her
- 4:20Speaker 1: daughter Polina are living nearby in a rented flat.
- 4:23Speaker 5: How do you paint something? No? Do we take a
- 4:27Speaker 5: new sheet?
- 4:29Speaker 1: Winter is very much on Irina's mind.
- 4:32Speaker 4: Sometimes we didn't have heating for weeks. And the temperature
- 4:37Speaker 4: inside the apartment was about 0 or 5 Celsius degrees
- 4:43Speaker 4: inside the apartment. So being here with a little child
- 4:47Speaker 4: that is sick all the time, in these occasions, it's
- 4:51Speaker 4: not okay.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Green.
- 4:53Speaker 5: Green.
- 4:55Speaker 2: This one?
- 4:58Speaker 5: Pink.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Polina is having a good day, but the constant alerts
- 5:02Speaker 1: and frequent explosions are taking a toll.
- 5:05Speaker 5: First symptoms was she stopped controlling her pee process, but
- 5:14Speaker 5: she can't control it, and so she started to cry
- 5:17Speaker 5: when she sees that she's peeing.
- 5:21Speaker 4: But then was another attack when she just heard explosions.
- 5:27Speaker 4: So she started vomiting. Then after a while she started shaking.
- 5:35Speaker 4: Completely shaking. I couldn't pacify her.
- 5:40Speaker 5: Just hugging her, telling her something. But she was shaking
- 5:44Speaker 5: for a pretty long time.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Right now, the thing that's pushing you most is... The
- 5:51Speaker 1: attacks or the fact that winter is coming?
- 5:55Speaker 4: Both, because we understand that the difficult circumstances in Kyiv
- 5:59Speaker 4: depend totally on these attacks. And our government says, our
- 6:06Speaker 4: president says that it is better to leave Kyiv, because
- 6:11Speaker 4: this is target number one.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Elena has had enough, but her solution is here in
- 6:23Speaker 1: the countryside, just a couple of hours outside Kyiv.
- 6:27Speaker 3: I have bought this house because it is little, a little.
- 6:34Speaker 3: I can organise everything for normal life.
- 6:38Speaker 1: The house is small, it needs a bit of work,
- 6:40Speaker 1: but she plans to spend most of the winter here. Today,
- 6:47Speaker 1: a new door has arrived. Outside, in the barn, there's
- 6:52Speaker 1: plenty of firewood. And in true Ukrainian tradition, a priest
- 6:57Speaker 1: has already been round to bless the place. Turns out
- 7:01Speaker 1: he's a bit of a handyman, too. You have quite
- 7:04Speaker 1: a big garden.
- 7:05Speaker 5: Yes.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Most of all, it's peaceful.
- 7:08Speaker 3: I decided that the better option will be a little
- 7:12Speaker 3: village without any factories, any storages and any railway stations.
- 7:19Speaker 3: everything that can be Russian's target.
- 7:25Speaker 1: So why did you start looking for a place in
- 7:28Speaker 1: the countryside?
- 7:30Speaker 3: Because I realized that I couldn't spend the winter in Kyiv.
- 7:40Speaker 3: If I have several sleepless nights, I feel bad. I
- 7:47Speaker 3: can't concentrate. I can't work productively. After several nights here,
- 7:55Speaker 3: when I can sleep, just sleep, I feel good.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Winter is still a little way off, but Elena has
- 8:04Speaker 1: almost got this place ready. And you can see exactly
- 8:07Speaker 1: why someone would want to come and spend the winter
- 8:10Speaker 1: in a place like this, to sit inside by the fire,
- 8:14Speaker 1: and most of all, to feel safe and secure and
- 8:18Speaker 1: not be hearing the sound of a drone flying overhead
- 8:20Speaker 1: and wondering if it's going to land on your house
- 8:23Speaker 1: and never, ever hearing an air raid siren. Back in Kiev,
- 8:30Speaker 1: it's more of the same. Sirens, alerts, plumes of smoke
- 8:34Speaker 1: on the horizon. Who wouldn't want to escape this? Polls
- 8:38Speaker 1: show that as many as 40% of Ukrainians living in
- 8:41Speaker 1: cities are actively thinking about what to do if the
- 8:45Speaker 1: situation gets worse. It's hard to know how many people
- 8:49Speaker 1: will actually do it. They've been through a lot here
- 8:52Speaker 1: and they're tough, but it's clearly on people's minds. But
- 9:01Speaker 1: Maria is going already. She and the kids are at
- 9:04Speaker 1: Kyiv's main railway station, waiting for a train to Vienna.
- 9:09Speaker 1: There are air raid alerts, so of course the train
- 9:12Speaker 1: is delayed. It's a big adventure for Artur and Kira.
- 9:16Speaker 1: They're heading for Egypt. It's cheaper and warmer than Europe
- 9:20Speaker 1: and safer than Kiev. But after the winter, Maria isn't
- 9:23Speaker 1: sure what will happen. She and her husband, Yuri, know
- 9:32Speaker 1: it could be a long separation. The kids seem to
- 9:40Speaker 1: know it too.