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Disney Film Tournament: Part I · The Recess Bell

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This production is brought to you by the Reesa's Bell. Hello everybody, my
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name is Justin Greenberg and this is Film Real. On today's episode, we're
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gonna be talking Disney movies and I brought I brought a friend, a little
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tinker bell, if you will. My lovely co host for today is my
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good friend Gina. Gina, how's it going? Hey, it was so
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justin. Thank you for having me. I'm excited. You know, I'm
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a big movie both not as much as you, but I love movies.
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So I'm glad that we get to talk about my childhood some nostalgia yesday.
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And I mentioned right before we went on the air, you know you're allowed
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to curse on this thing. Fuck. I was gonna say if you want
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to say one, but you just you just put down all three. So
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yeah, so yeah, it's gonna be fun. We're gonna we're gonna discuss,
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you know, our personal history with Disney movies, some controversial Disney stories
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that have come across over the last you know, one hundred years or so
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that Disney has been around. But we also got a little bit of a
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bracket. I love tournaments, you know, March Madness coming up. In
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a few weeks. So why don't we do a little Disney tournament. I
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think that's where we're gonna start things here, and then we'll get into some
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more Disney discussions. So we picked eight movies with this tournament that we're sort
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of all over the place. We didn't really want to deviate too much to
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the past because I know you in particular. I don't know, I got
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this vibe that you don't like older things based on some of the conversations we've
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had with movies, You're like, oh, the graphics are terrible, So
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I don't know if you feel that way with animation. Also, can you
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go back and watch some of those older movies? No, absolutely not,
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And I am a poll. We talked about Halloween, okay, and I
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actually went back and watching them like not bad, but the like older horror
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film specifically were the ones where I'm kind of like, I'm not really into
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a good graphics, like The Shining. I think it's entirely overrated and I
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would die on that hill. Let's die on that hill. Love Love Jack
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Nicholson. Yeah, he was overrated. You have a knife in your hand
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and you're screaming, so unrealistic. But going backwards, like when it comes
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to yeah, you're probably right, I'm I have enough self awareness to be
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like, you may be right about me. When it comes to the movies.
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Now, music is a whole different topic. I go all the way
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back to the fifties with that. But movies, I grew up the early
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two thousand. You remember, I'm the Blu ray baby. I'm the CGI
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baby, you know. So I had my my movie journey started with beautiful,
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like clear cut graphics. So you're telling me to get rid of the
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one thing that I really loved about movies. I can't. I can't do
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it. I can't see the beauty and trash and garbage, like the technology
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was not where it needed to be. See you are you are completely off
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base here. We're gonna we're gonna get into our first argument right here.
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Maybe I'll add like a little bell sound, so like the fight's gonna start.
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So for me, those movies are too clean. It's too There's something
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about watch an older Disney movie like Pinocchio or Fantasia, and there's a rawness
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to it. There's a little bit of an edge to it. The lines
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maybe aren't as clean. You watch these other movies. It's just to me,
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it's too polished. And if you have something that has a little bit
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of edge to it, even if it's music or art, I think it
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adds more of character to it. So I don't like that we're just stuck
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in this clean cgi world. Now you know what I'm hearing justin I'm hearing
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that you like shit, because that's exactly That's exactly what I'm hearing. It's
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the fact that, first off, you don't like that it's polished. I
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have never in my existence, my twenty one years of living, have I
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heard someone complain about the polishedness or something being too perfect. What about this?
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All right, let's talk about women, because we both like women.
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Yes, so like to me, we can agree with that. To me,
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though, there's something more charming about a girl that has some flaws.
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Like if there's like a picture perfect ten, yes, okay, she's obviously
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tray active. But I find the more uniqueness in like an eight point one
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that maybe has like messed up eyebrows and maybe like a gap in the tooth.
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Like to me, like even with women, it doesn't have to be
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completely polished. There's something more interesting about that. So I guess I find
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that same way with movies. I support women, I know I do.
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I don't know. Maybe you just don't do not support women? You tell
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me is a fire here as a woman. You heard it here she said
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she doesn't support them. I don't. I'm not a feminist and a slightest
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as a woman. But but do you hear my argument though it makes sense?
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Right? No? Because I realized that I could pull a tin,
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so I'm cool with tins. But but I in a way, yes,
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like I think flaws are beautiful in a way because people are like imperfectly perfect.
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But I don't like my movies the way I like my women. And
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I might be lying, and you, I will say, also, everyone
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is entitled to their own opinion with movies. I might think your opinion is
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wrong. But I can't. I can't sit here and be like, no,
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you have to like this movie because I like it. If you don't
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like it, you don't like it. And I'm not gonna like something that
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you don't like. And I think that's a weird world that we live in
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now, where people are so clear cut. If it's not their way,
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they're not even willing to have a conversation with somebody, whether it's politics or
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something as stupid as a movie, like if you don't like this movie,
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I'm so angry You're gonna write a tweet and I'll never speak to you again.
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Like relax, it's just a movie. If you don't like it,
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you don't like it. I still think you're wrong, but we're able to
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have the conversation. So let's let's get into this bracket right here. So
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we selected eight movies. We tried to keep them all within the past thirty
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years or so. The oldest one on this list is actually The Little Mermaid
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from the late nineteen eighties. So let's get into the names in the bracket.
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We got Finding Nemo taking on a Laddin toy story, taking on Monsters,
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inc. The Goofy Movie taking on Up, and Little Mermaid taking on
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Lion King all in the first round. So let's start off with Finding Nemo
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and the Laddin. And to me, this one's clear cut. I'm not
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the biggest Nemo guy. And Aladdin, to me is one of those iconic
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films, especially especially the Genie played by Robin Williams. I will go on
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the record and say that character might be the greatest animated character in any Disney
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movie. He's so fun. The music is fun. They don't have music,
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you know, music goals. There's great, you know, a great
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film score in Finding Nemo, but they're not singing, so it's a different
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type of movie. The music in Aladdin, though, is stuff that I
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constantly am playing and it's just hand drawn animation versus CGI. I think the
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character of Aladdin is a little dull, but the character surrounding Aladdin is what
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makes that movie extremely interesting. And versus Finding Nemo, which I think is
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a very good movie, but it never I just wasn't captivated as I was
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with some of Pixar's previous work. Nowhere, Where would you go with this?
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Because I'm going to Laddin moving on, I am going I have to
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agree with you. I mean, out of the two Aladdin, I just
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I'm a sucker for Jasmine. That That's where I'm starting off with. But
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no woman though exactly. But the plot, like it is very different it's
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supposed to Finding Nemo. I do really enjoy your good music. I look
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at it. It's like a musical sense, because you know, the Finding
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Nemo was very more plot based. It didn't really surround have a lot of
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music or just sound effects in it. So in that way, because I'm
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such a big music fan, that's probably why I'm gonna go with Aladdin.
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I think the plot was good. I think the Genie was probably my favorite
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character. He was very relatable, very humorous, So I'm with you in
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that aspect. It's a hard choice, though, I will say for me
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because Finding Nemo once again, I grew up as a Blu ray baby.
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That was probably one of the first just movies that I remember watching it seeing.
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But it was also for as a as a kid like wanting to keep
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my It kind of lost me a little bit throughout the movie and is a
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heavy movie. You know, there's nothing really as emotional. Aladdin has some
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emotion to it. I will say, you know, when Genie finally gets
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to be free, you know, he gets his freedom, that's a little
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bit emotional. But I don't think there's anything as emotional in Aladdin as there
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is in Finding Nemo. Finding Nemo is probably a better story if you're just
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looking at it objectively, but Aladdin is more fun and I'm a sucker for
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hand drawn animation. Robin Williams, Gilbert Godfried as the parrot Iago. I
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think Ja'afar is a great villain. There's not really a villain per se in
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Finding Nemo. It's more just about the journey of finding the Sun. It's
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a great story, great voice casting in Finding Nemo. But I gotta go
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Aladdin moving on in this one. Okay, I'm with you on that one,
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but I will have I still got to give credit to Finding Nemo for
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cut. For me, it is a hard one. What I really loved
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is the story. Like you said, the plot. I think it was
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a very meaning will apply and I didn't really understand it until I watched it,
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I would say a couple of months ago as an adult, and I
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just realized, like the theme of it, I really enjoyed. It made
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me emotional. I'm twenty one years old crying at a movie I watched when
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I was like six. So it was the fact that a father was willing
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to go above and beyond to find this child. You know. The movie
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started off with tragedy, and what I liked about Disney at the time is
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that they didn't really shy away from something that was so realistic. You know.
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The other I don't know how many eggs she had, but his wife
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and all of his other children were eaten, so he's literally protecting the one
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child that he has left. And I think, you know, having just
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my background having a very like overbearing parent because I am the only child,
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I know how that feels. And I saw both sides of how you know
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this dad just wanted to protect his only child, the only one that he
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has left, the only piece of him that he has left. But at
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the same time, this child wants to let you know, like I have
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a life to live, you have to let me go, you have to
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trust me, which is also set this up on purpose, But that's also
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kind of a theme in Aladdin, because Jasmine is very much like you have
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to stay in the palace, you're not allowed, and the father's kind of
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overbearing and there is no mother to be seen, So a lot of common
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themes there. But I think we're both gonna move on with Aladdin in round
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number two, which brings us to our second first round matchup, a Goofy
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movie versus Up again, two extremely different movies. Up. I'd say the
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first fifteen minutes of Up is the most emotional I've ever been while watching a
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movie. I don't think it gets any higher than that, though. I
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think that is the peak of the movie. That being said, the rest
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of the movie is tremendous. That grumpy old man. I love the formula
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in movies where you have a grumpy type character where you know, deep down
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he has a heart of gold and you sort of peel away from those layers,
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and by the end of the movie he becomes a fatherlike figure to the
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little boys kid. The great fun characters, great cast, good CGI animation.
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As far as the Goofy movie goes down, that is a classic.
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It's my It might be my favorite. I don't know. We've got some
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of the classics in here on this tournament, but I've just that movie.
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I always think of Summer. Whenever I think of the Goofy movie, I
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think of Summer. I love the whole father's son dynamic. A lot of
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these movies have that ye that father son thing. You know, Max doesn't
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want to be with his dad Goofy. They go on this road trip together
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and they form a bond. There is hard to it. There is comedy
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to it. Up also has some great comedy in it as well. Again,
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the thing that's missing, the thing that is different between This is the
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Goofy movie is a musical. There are lyrics and songs being sung up,
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has some great music. The actual film score that plays in the background is
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really emotional, especially in those first fifteen minutes. The music is great.
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But I don't know, maybe I'm just a sucker for a musical. And
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those songs eye to Eye and the other one this is on the Open Road.
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That's a classic song as well. This wasn't the one the like the
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amazing Goofy movies when they went to college the sequel, so I grew up
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on the sequel. I had to go back to watch the first one.
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But I think those two like for the second one to be a sequel,
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and I think the sequel won up the first one the origin. Yes,
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I really did enjoy the sequel because I mean, of course Rock's hand.
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You know, I'm a sucker for the ladies in the movie, but I'm
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with you the dynamic, and I always loved Goofy as a character, and
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you you know, you give me a little craft for not like in the
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original, but the beat to be made in the nineties, and I actually
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enjoyed the graphics for it. The way this specifically the way it was shot,
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the cinematography for it. I really enjoyed that aspect of the Goofy movie.
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And I think that the original and the sequel probably a very good duo
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combo. Yeah, as opposed to a lot of like Disney sequels. So
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I actually have both movies. I would still umping them together as like yeah,
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as like one. I put them in my top five for Disney.
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I really enjoyed them. And I'm not a big I didn't really grow up
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as a like big cartoonist. It just was Disney movies. Like I didn't
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explore the like cartoon at work and the TV shows and things of that nature.
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But yeah, I see where we're going here for this one. I'm
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definitely going Goofy movie. Yeah, I'm going Gophy movie. We can agree
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on the first two. It's one of those VHS taps and we're gonna talk
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about VHS taps later on. That was just in constant rotation, you know,
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we just rewound it and you know, would watch the whole thing and
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then rewind it again and watch it from start to finish. And it's one
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of those those that soundtracks that I listened to NonStop. We're gonna move on
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to our next second round match next first round matchup, and that is Toy
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Story versus Monsters Inc. The original Toy Story, the first ever fully cg
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I movie and Gina, I know you love you know this your CGI,
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but this is the one that started at all. And when this came out
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because I saw this one in theaters, I'm an old man, as you
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know, it blew my mind and it blew everyone's mind because nobody has seen
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anything like that. But that only goes so far. Because if you have
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groundbreaking technology, yeah, okay, it's good for its time, but does
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it stand the test of time. And I think the story of Toy Story
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and the voice acting and this song is because you got Randy Newman. You
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know, you've got a friend of me, and clearly I will go sailing
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no more. There's great music, there's a great story, there's great cast,
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and there's groundbreaking special effects. Monsters z Inc. Has all those things.
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It was you did better graphically because it's a more advanced movie came out,
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you know, five or six years later. It's got great cast.
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As far as you know, John Goodman and Billy Crystal, I think they
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do a great job and there's great music, great little musical numbers in there.
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The story is heartfelt, both of them. I love the dynamic of
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Boo you know, Kitty Kitty, you know, it's just adorable. But
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there's something about that original Toy Story. It's it's the one that I owned
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on VHS. I never owned Monsters Inc. Until years later. It's one
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I have a fond memory of going to see in theaters and then buying the
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video game on the Saga Genesis, and we went to Burger King after the
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movie and they had their version of Happy Meal toys with the Toy Story toys
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there. So I just have I just have a fond memory of that time
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of my life watching this movie, and I just think it's a fantastic film.
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So I'm picking Toyster a little bit. I'm picking Toy Story on this
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one. Are you going Monsters Inc. Or Toy Story? I gotta go
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Monsters Ink. Well, hear me out, hear me, I hear here.
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Toy Story I actually liked. I think my favorite one was Toy Story
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two or three. I didn't really the original was okay. It was cool.
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I think the plot was okay, but I didn't really under I didn't
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really, It didn't like resonate with me the way it did with many people.
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I think it's a great movie. I enjoyed it, but compared to
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Monsters Inc. I mean, Monsters Inc. Was that movie for me that
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I rewinded three or four times, like I fell in love with Mike Wizouskin
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and and Boo like Kitty like you said, Kitty Kitty she is. And
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I also liked Randy. I know he was a villain, but for some
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reason, like I always felt it was more to him. So when Monsters
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University came out and I got to like my questions were answered in terms of
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that background information, his villain story makes a lot of sense. Not gonna
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lie, but Monsters Inc. Was that movie that I just during my childhood,
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I just constantly found myself going back to over and over again. So
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when I had to wait damn near a decade later to get the second one
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as a teenager at the time, I feel like when it dropped I was
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more than a static for it. But I don't think it's delivered, whereas
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I think Toy Story two Toy Story three really delivered. They did. But
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numbers are numbers. Numbers are numbers. I feel like emotionally, monsters ingrastinating
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more with me. Now you gotta go home? You want to go home?
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Or that that need of protection. Yeah, well I think I think
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they're both really funny movies. I legitimately laugh out loud. There's a scene
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where Buzz he finds out he's not a real space ranger and he's lost his
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arm and he's he's like drunk having a tea party with these other two weird
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creations that are in Sid's house, and he's like, I am missus nesbit.
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Do you see the hat? Just scenes that I constantly reference, you
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know, thirty years later, and you know me, Gina, I'm a
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giant manchild that collects action figures. So seeing these toys, you know,
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the Army Soldier or the Mister Potato, had the references to things that I
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used to play with and still play with to this day. It's just so
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so good. But I'm gonna give you, since you are the guests,
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and I don't hate monsters Inc. I'm gonna have Monsters Inc. Move on
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because this is unfortunately it's just two people, so we can't have a third
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vote. But I'm gonna I'm gonna how about to say we go rock Paper
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scissor, now gonna gonna I'll go with you. You know, Monsters inc.
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I have no beef with I just I just watched it a few weeks
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ago and it's it really is a fantastic movie. But we'll talk about what
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our favorite Disney movies are in general later on, because I'll tell you where
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I ranked Toy Story, because I really rank it high. But we got
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one more first round matchup, and that is The Little Mermaid versus The Lion
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King. Great music in both of these these these uh, both of these
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movies have tremendous music. Uh, part of your world versus you know,
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Hakuna Matada. Great side characters because Sebastian is a great side character versus you
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know, Timon and Pumba. I love Rafiki and The Lion King. I'm
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When I was growing up, Little Mermaid was seen as a girl movie.
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It just was. It really was. I didn't want to give it the
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time of day, and I might have watched it maybe once or twice when
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I was a kid. You know, my neighbor liked it. She was,
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you know, a little girl. My sister liked it, so I
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was like, I can't watch it, it's a Little Mermaid, But then
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I've watched it recently and it is really freaking fantastic, beautifully hand drawn animation
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and the movie that really started the golden Age of Disney in the nineties,
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even though it came out in the late eighties. For people that don't know,
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Disney was on top of the world pretty much until the late sixties,
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and then Walt Disney passed away in the seventies, and most of the eighties
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Disney was failing. They'd have a hit here and there, but they were
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having bomb after bomb after bomb. Some of their theme park decisions were not
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good, so Disney was really in the dumps. And then Who Framed Roger
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Rabbit came out in nineteen eighty eight, and then The Little Mermaid came out
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in nineteen eighty nine and started this new Disney red assi we got going into
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the nineties with Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin and Lion King and Pocahontas and
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all these iconic films that gross the shit ton of money. Wouldn't have really
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happened without Little Mermaid. That being said, Lion King is moving on in
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my book. I love the Lion King. I do, and I think
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that that movie, more so than I would like to admit, probably made
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me cry multiple times from front to bottom. I think when you it was
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easy to understand the bigger picture as a child, you know, because these
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are movies I grew up with. So I'm thinking I'm anywhere between six and
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eight. That were like the first time I watched these movies, and then
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of course throughout the childhood you rewatch movies tens of millions of times. Lion
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King is the movie till this day, I still go back to I had
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the original Lion King two and then the Bloopers and like extra edition DVD Lion
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King one and a half, Yeah, one and a half, Yeah with
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Timba with Poomba on the on the cover for that one, I remember I
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had. I had that movie on DVD and DHS. I believe this movie
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was so big, Gina, you know they they re released it a few
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times. Uh it was the highest grossing animated movie for quite some time.
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And uh it was a juggernaut. Like when Hakuna Matata, everyone was singing
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it. In fact, even in in Toy Story, there's a scene where
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the little girl Andy's sister is actually listening to Hakuna Matata in the car like
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so it was gigantic, beautifully animated. The only thing that kind of pisses
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me off. There There are two things. One, the idea of was
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stolen. There was a book that this was heavily influenced by that. They
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pretty much stole be for me and Disney has been doing that for years,
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but they didn't give any credit, which is what I don't like. And
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then the main character. I I really think that Ariel is a far more
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interesting character than Simba. You're crazy. She is is bland. The same
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thing with the Latin. I think they're bland characters. They're generic. It's
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the character surrounded. I think Voss is good. I think I think Timon
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and Pumba. I think Scar is a great villain. He might be the
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best Disney villain. But Ursula is a pretty badass villain as well. But
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I think the character of Ariel is very unique. You know, she's just
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dumbfounded. Uh you know, what is this thing? A thing? I'm
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a bob Like, she's clueless, she's romantic, she wants to escape or
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you know, Simba's kind of like all right, you know that woman gave
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up her voice for a man. Exact, Stand up, sweetheart, stand
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up? No you're not a fan of that? No, no, what
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any movie. That's why I'm not a big I was. I was a
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little girl that shied away from the Prince's movies like Snow Wide, Beauty and
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the Beast like we was because it was conditioning girls to feel like they like
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having a man like save them was a necessity or like mandatory. I'm like,
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why can't they be dependent? This is why I like movies like Aladdin,
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like yes, because their dynamic was different, Like, but yeah,
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I think there is. I think we've gotten completely away from that though.
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And I think there is a group of women. I'm not saying you,
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but I think there are women out there. In fact, I know there
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are that do they want to be rescued. And I think that Hollywood has
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completely gone away from that. Yeah. Like, there was a movie The
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Mummy back in the late nineties with Brendan Fraser, one of my favorite movies,
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and it's very much like women need to be rescued masculine man. But
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I loved her because she was the brain. She was the muscle, but
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she was the brain yet But I think movies like that aren't made anymore.
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Not maybe it's like a little political correctness. Maybe they don't want to go
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backwards. But I think there are people that like those movies. But I
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understand where you're coming from. But maybe you know, she's basically selling her
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soul just to meet some dude. But she was horny, she was under
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the cr whole life. And then she sees the dude. He's a good
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looking guy. He might be one of the better looking Disney characters. And
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we will get to that, but we're both having Lion King move on in
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the story. Absolutely, what I grew that movie was like culture for me
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in terms of my childhood. That movie just the opening, like nah,
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it's a man, Like, oh my god. I remember when I because
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we had Aladdin on VHS, you know, we bought it. I got
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it for my birthday one year. Nice and before Aladdin, you know,
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they had the coming attractions and they had a little sneak preview of the Lion
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King. You remember when they would always put like the commercials in their movies
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of like hey this is coming out. Yeah yeah, So I was finking
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about like all adults go to head, uh huh, and that was how
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people. There was no internet really, so we were like, oh my
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god. I talked about that in one of the early episodes. I was
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like, oh my god, they're making Immortal Kombat movie because we rented Dumb
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and Dumber and we saw that they were making that movie. And I remember
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finding out about The Lion King. This is gonna be great. And the
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interesting thing about this is they didn't think The Lion King was going to be
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that successful because they were making Pocahontas and The Lion King at the same time.
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And Disney was like, Pocahontas is gonna be the really successful movie,
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and it was successful, but it wasn't Lion King successful. So they looked
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at that movie they hated. I never really got into it, but they
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put all their bread and basket, you know, all their money into Pocahontas.
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They were like, that's the A movie. So all the b animators,
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the people that aren't as big shot as the Pocahontas animators are gonna work
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on The Lion King. But then Lion King became that juggernaut and one of
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those greatest great films of all time. And it moves on to the final
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four, which leaves us with two matchups Aladdin versus Monsters Inc. And the
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Goofy movie versus The Lion King. And that one's very difficult. But let's
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start with Aladdin and Monsters Inc. I just watched Monsters Inc. As I
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mentioned, but they're like a decade apart. I think Aladdin came out ninety
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two. Monsters Inc. I believe was two thousand and one. So I
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just had so much more time with Aladdin. It's like I have the I
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have a little firmness of the Laddin, Like it's just been a part of
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my world more so than Monsters Inc. But looking at it as like a
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film critic and just taking the nostalgia glasses off, Monsters Ink is probably a
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better movie. Yeah, I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking from our
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perspective. You know when when I when I think of movies, I kind
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of overlook I literally had to take a film appreciation class for this, but
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I kind of tend to overlook everything that people love about movies, like the
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cinematography, of the plot, the theme. When I when it comes down
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to these two was like, Okay, I'm just thinking about emotions, how
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the movie makes me feel is this something If I had to pick one for
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the rest of my life and I couldn't touch the other one, which one
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would I be okay with giving up? And I can't give what Monsters inc.
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I can say, I can't give up a Laddin. What It's just
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because the best of a Laddin is better than the best of Monsters Inc.
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I will put like I said, I'll put Robin Williams Genie. I wouldn't
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never want to lose that character, and I would not want and I would
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be fine. I would be upset because I really like Monsters, Inc.
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But the cultural impact in my household of Robin Williams and the Genie is so
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impactful that I would hate to lose that character. So if I'm thinking of
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all the characters and Monsters inc. And now did you say that, I
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don't think i'd be able to give up Genie. Yeah. And because it's
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a musical, I'm a big I'm a big I'm a sucker for good music.
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So I'll give you this one. Aladdin's moving on to the finals.
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You ain't never had a friend like me, So Aladdin is taking on either
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the Goofy movie or the Lion King. Oh this is he is. I'm
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sorry, it's easy to me. This is very difficult. I have more
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fun with the Goofy movie. I can relate more to the Goofy movie because
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it's said in a modern setting. I can also relate to a single parent
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household. You know, my father passed away, so even like the father's
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son dynamic is interesting both of these because you know, Cymba loses his father.
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I lost my father. But then Goofy's a single parent, so my
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mom's a single parent trying to, you know, form a relationship with their
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kid, so there is that dynamic. Goofy movie is more fun. The
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dance numbers, the character of power Line, who's sort of like a Michael
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Jackson Prince character. I love the romance, the love of Roxanne, the
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obsession of that character. I think when you're a teenager, you fall in
28:29
love with, you know, your dream girl or guy, and then you
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fantasize about them, and everyone could relate to that. Lion King, though
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is super iconic. It's obviously a lot more well known. I wouldn't have
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a problem with Lion King moving on. But I really love the Goofy movie.
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That's my go to and the only reason I'm saying whoa not the only
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reason I'm saying the Lion King. The Lion King was it for me,
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like that was my childhood. That was the center point of my childhood.
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And I think the themes of the movie is what speaks to me the most.
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Like you said, when Mufasa dying, Simba lost his father, but
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it was like the form of identity. You know, he was banned from
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the Pride, but it was also him growing up kind of not knowing who
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he is and not not really understanding it or knowing how to step into his
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role as king of the jungle as you know, the heir to the throne.
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And you know who's great in that movie, Rafiki, who's the the
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the ape character exactly. And he, you know, senses that there's the
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one scene where he senses that Simba's alive. He's like, he's alive in
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the and the music hits the music the score like the actual Hans Zimmer does
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the film score. Uh, that stuff is really really good. And then
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on top of that, you know, you have I'm going on be the
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main event and the king was before and then Kuna Matata or what's the romantic
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song that they sing can You Feel the Love to? Yeah, that's a
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great song. And that scene I was like, when she has the eyes,
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she gives these this look. I'm like, dude, I like cats
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Now and head the Eyes talk about great pussy, no pun intended. So
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the only thing I don't like, Like I said, I think Simba is
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a bland character. I think Max is a more interesting character. I think
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Goofy is a more interesting character than Simba. The characters surrounding them, yeah,
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both great. Lion King though, I think has the villain Scar Scars,
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I think the tipping point because he he is tremendous be pre Jeremy Irons
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is a tremendous voice. Uh so. But Timon and Poombo, they're like,
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they're great as well. Exactly. I'm taking them over everyone. And
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the only reason I'm picking Lion King over Goofy movie is because I prefer the
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second one over the first. Oh please, we're not talking about those.
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But you know, it's funny. I've seen a meme of is like,
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hey, your dad just died Hakuna Matata and it's like like, uh,
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you know, kind of moving on pretty quickly. But great movie. I
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have no issue with that. Moving on, which leads us to our final
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Aladdin versus Lion King, and I love this matchup, these two movies coming
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out pretty much one after the other early nineties classics. I'm good. Where
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you leaning towards this? You already nowhere? Man, I'm not giving it.
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I'm ten toos down. I'm standing for a Lion King. Do I
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need to further further? Just just give input on why over Aladdin? It's
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Lion King? Okay, we're talking. We're talking about sound scores, right,
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don't get me wrong. Yes, like you ain't never had for like
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me, I get it, I get it. But the soundtrack for Lion
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King, Oh, come on, Prince Bubble, not over the Lion King
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soundtrack, Come on, O Kunamatada is wiping at least two of those songs
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out by itself and the opening as nah. They're both animated grade. They
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are both animated grade. I still will die on this throne that the genie
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is better than anything in Lion King. No timon and Poomba. That's ridiculous,
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that's ridiculous. They were adorable over Robin Williams performance in Aladdin. May
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you were wrong on this? May rest in peace. I love Robin Williams.
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I do, okay, but I prefer missus doubt fire, not this
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okay. Aladdin was good the Genie. I'll give you that great phenomenal character.
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But I'm not taking the Genie over Timon and Poomba. I can't do
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it, please, I can't do it that two for one. I'm willing
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to die on that hill, justin. I will die on the Genie hill,
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but I will go with Lion King. I have no issue with saying
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Lion King is the greatest Disney movie of all time, and it's gonna be
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celebrating its thirtieth anniversary nineteen ninety four, So shout out to the Lion King.
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Whooo all right, that was pretty fun, right. I was like
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I had a feeling Lion King it was gonna win this. It's just like
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it's got this epic aura to it, like it's it's it's like royalty like
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it's exactly like it's just they have theme park attraction dedicated to it. It
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stood the test of time. We have the live action remake or whatever you
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want to call it, because it's not live action, it's all computer generated,
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which brings us to our next discussion. All right, that's gonna end
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Part one of this Disney conversation I've had with Gina. We're gonna stop right
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there. This is me coming in post recording, and we're gonna break this
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up into two segments because we got a lot to talk about in part two.
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So tune in next week for more Disney talk right here on Film Reel