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Episode 196 | Beeragate · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Watch out, mate, watch out, watch out my dress, dress up Express.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, damn, don't stop.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: This train has stopped in a many station.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: Tell the train man at the train station Raise up the rail and break for your day.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: There's only DJ jamming, guys on the end singing and musicians rumbling.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: People want to jam.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: Everybody getting down on this soca train.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: Here comes the soca train Getting down on this Soka Train.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: Here comes the Soka Train Getting down on the Soka Train.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Everybody getting down on the Soka Train.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Here comes the Soka Train Getting down on the Soka Train.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: Watch out, thank you.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: When we rockin' that you go grab A whole lot to earn your money, because every brother Walk with his daughter and they in a corner Getting down together and everybody getting down On the Soca Train.
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Soca Train.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: Getting down on the Soca Train.
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: Everybody getting down On the Soca Train Right on the Soka Train.
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: Everybody getting down on the Soka Train, right on the Soka Train.
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: They're getting down on the Soka Train Only.
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: Forgive me, I started just now, but I couldn't do it.
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: I couldn't.
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: I'm good conscious, I just couldn't do it.
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Maximus, the Gladiator, autonomous Radiator Representing God the Creator.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: Welcome to episode 196 of the Corey Shepard Podcast.
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: If you hear from the beginning salute.
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: If you hear from the beginning salute, it's easy to reach and listen to.
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: 196 and nothing so good to have you on board.
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something right, when the first song was sung by gypsy, let me, let me do the right thing.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: People say I don't say.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: The first original soaker train was by gypsy.
• 4:20
  Speaker 3: The next original soaker train was by maximus, the gladiator Magadan.
• 4:25
  Speaker 3: What was the name?
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: Now MX Prime.
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: Salute.
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: Which one better?
• 4:30
  Speaker 3: We need a.
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: Which one better episode.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: You know where I could do the remake of the song and the original song and what song sample which song and only tell me which one better.
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: I wonder if people go only stick within the era, like that, gypsy, really sweet.
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: But to me the maximus is hit different.
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: But maybe that's because when I born and I was a fan of maximus down at the time and gypsy would have been a older fellow to me and all them to menu.
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: We come to talk about serious business this week.
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: Right, number one, happy republic, happy independence.
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: Did you all do patriotic things?
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: Was you in red, white and black?
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: Did you represent for the land of your birth, and so on, over the last few weeks or month or so between independence and republic.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: What did you do?
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: What did you do?
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: I went early in the morning and take a sweat and you know, these days when you sweat you have to take a little vibe.
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: After right, man, bring beers.
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: My days of beers after sweat, I think they are over, because I my days of beers after sweat.
• 5:22
  Speaker 3: I think they're over, because I cannot recover A couple of beers and my whole next day is crashed.
• 5:27
  Speaker 3: I see the white oak and I say, all right, leave that alone, because if you do that, your week crashes Like it's the beers and everything.
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: I can't make it.
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: I can't do it again.
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: And I just want it to be known that this is a short week.
• 5:38
  Speaker 3: In Trinidad and Tobago, if you didn't know, tuesday was Republic Day.
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: Tuesday was Republic Day.
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: Tuesday is typically the day that I put this podcast out, but I am a trainee too, and when it is short weeks, we don't really work.
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: We don't really do work.
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: When it's a short week, school is be closed on the Monday and nobody's really going.
• 5:55
  Speaker 3: So who is me?
• 5:58
  Speaker 3: Who is me?
• 5:58
  Speaker 3: Who is me?
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: I just like everybody else.
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: So, on a short week, going forward, right.
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: Anytime you see a short week, it's a random draw for which day the episode will come out.
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: It's a random draw.
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: Who knows, who knows what's going to happen.
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: But again, when I take too long to record and take too long to pause an episode, some things just be looking like it's so old.
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: The first thing I see on my list here is DL Singh getting robbed.
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: Right, don't laugh at that.
• 6:22
  Speaker 3: Don't laugh at that.
• 6:23
  Speaker 3: Ain't nothing funny to laugh at, right.
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: So if you, if you was on that rock, you would not see DL Singh in a video from bingy corner.
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: If you know bingy corner, bingy corner, right up the hill in St Joseph, right popular open spot, and all we see is a little clip where Terrence DLing seemed to be on the phone and basically saying minister, or did somebody call him, apparently?
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: And he said minister, I just want to let you know that I just got robbed my gold beer by binky corner.
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: I want to salute, I want to salute to the robbers, right, I want to salute to the robbers for being equal opportunity robbers, because I don't know if they have a minister in this country who is more popular in face than terence d alting.
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: Remember, terence d alting was on tv every day.
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: He had the best campaign ever.
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: Surprising that everybody who want to enter the political gael seems to run to saint joseph first.
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: Right, if you remember, we had a talk about gary griffith later in this episode.
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: But gary griffith say saint joseph is where he running right and you want to run against the man who had to be one of the most popular politicians in the country, not, so I don't know.
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it, if if it is robbers or thieves or the criminal element running up on the elsing and taking a beer man, they don't know.
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: I also don't know like I see a lot of people salute my boy, sundar Singh, salute you Older Sundar Singh, darren, call man.
• 7:53
  Speaker 3: Tell me he say boy, listen, you really believe that story about the Alsingian Rob.
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: That's a gullible fellow.
• 7:58
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: I believe what I see on camera, right, I believe what I see on camera.
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: But he was quick to point out to me that the phone looked like it off.
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: You know again, black screen.
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: As a man who's used iPhone, you know me and all them Android and all them is working.
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: But to me, when you're talking on your phone and you put it by your ears, it doesn't automatically go black, I don't know.
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: Then somebody else say they mustn't know the Al Singh, face and face.
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: And I started to say, well, maybe you know, that's probably true, even if you're gonna interrupt the housing.
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: Then I see, oh, even if you're gonna rub somebody and he realizes the housing he might pull out of that.
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: Then somebody say, boy, by bingy corner in the middle of the day, ways are so much people you go run out for a beer is like you know, I mean maybe not worth it.
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: And then somebody else tell my boy, security detail that ministers.
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: The thing is I'm not sure, right that ministers or to me I know the prime minister is a role with a with car in front and car behind what he's called as a convoy entourage, whatever he's called it.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: Right, he have army and police rolling with him every day.
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think that ministers roll in that kind of way, but I think the minister at least have a driver, if not security, and that would be a brave move.
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: If the driver right there is.
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: It is the minister of security, armed like a driver, like the getaway driver in them movies we see, or or is it that they's just driving when them see a man pull a gun, them getting low too, but I find it strange and people speculating as to who he called.
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: My first thought was that he had to call earlier, but he called him minister of national security and the truth is whether whether we let me let me assume for now be gullible like me and assume that that thing is real right.
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: I saw a lot of people commenting online and it was my first thought all right now, all it was started to take crime seriously.
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: And you know, I don't even believe that to extent, because the truth about it is these fellas doing so good that one bureau, eh them go get back.
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: That you know what I mean.
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: But the luxury that these fellas have and this is part of the hubris of politics in Trinidad and Tobago and politics in general the luxury that you have to be robbed of something.
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: Nothing happened to you.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: Eh, when I say nothing happened to you, nothing happened to you physically.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: Nobody ain't hit you, they ain't beat you, they.
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: They can tie you up and take all your money, they can interfere with your children and your wife and they can kick you in your front door and all that kind of thing, right, none of those things happen to you, you, a man, come on, put that gunpoint.
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: I don't want to minimize that because that's a traumatic experience I would never want to go through.
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: But I've been through it before.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: Not that gunpoint, but from the time you tell me I robbed, I robbed you.
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: I'm a man no Me fighting, nobody Me looking for no problem.
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: A man come and tell me what's going on.
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: You're getting robbed.
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: I say seriously Robbed of what he say, your chain.
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: I say no problem, I take off my chain.
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to burst it.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: I take off my chain and I hand him.
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: I ain't going to mass up my little face going through all that.
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: So you get held at gunpoint or you know it's.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: It had to be a snatch and grab if you're the minister, because by bingy corner that already there people are saying boy that the minister, boy that the minister.
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: This is still trinidad.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: But, assuming that is true, you went through this, what would be, unfortunately, a benign experience compared to some of the things that people going through with crime in trinidad and Tobago.
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: But you have the luxury of picking up the phone to call the minister.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: I'm sure after that you get called from prime minister, minister, education, minister of housing, every minister must he call you, earler must be call you.
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: Every I see man getting a ward on thing.
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: Stephen Williams must he call you.
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: And snags and boroughs must be called you to find out what is being done.
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: According to the comments, which I also believe, you probably get her back by now.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: And it's just a reflection of our society.
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: Who knows who and all that.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: And it is easy.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: The hubris of politicians is that it's easy for him to walk away with the feeling like great, we're doing something about crime.
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: Look how easy I get back my bureau, look how quick we were able to respond to this situation.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: And I I'm happy that enough time elapsed because I thought he was gonna come out and say that we are top of things and we think I'm moving.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: If you say that, that going to aggravate people even more, because if I lost my bureau, I feel like meaning a hoop.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: So I have a little special song to play for terrence.
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: Well, you could think it's for Terrence D Elzing or you could think something else, but this song just fit good in this place to me.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Level the mark level.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: The mark level.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: The mark Level.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: The mark level.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: The mark Level.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: The mark level.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: The mark level.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: The mark.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're born with a ghost wound in your mouth.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: Instead of using it, just let it out.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: It shows how you've got opportunity.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Now you want to put the blame on me.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: Now I say you're losing, so take that and cool it.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Now I say you're losing, so take that and cool it.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Just take that and cool it.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Just take that and cool it.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: Your parents did warn you every day Stay away from bad company, don't you know friends, don't believe you are free.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Who the hell is feeling?
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: It's your fault, you're losing, so take that and cool it.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: It's your fault you're losing.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: So take that and cool it.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Just take that and cool it.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: Just take that and cool it.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you, don't ask foolish questions.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: This situation have complications.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: This situation have complications.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: This situation Is like a revelation.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: So take that and cool it.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Take that and cool it.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Just take that and cool it.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Take that and cool it.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: So.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: So whom it may concern, right To whom it may concern, but prayers and well wishes to everyone involved and so on.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry to hear you had to go through that experience and you know what burned me the most is where crime reached.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Look at where crime reached now.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Some of these fellas are on a different level, different level.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: What I'll do over the week, what I'll do over the holiday, one of the things that I wanted to highlight over this holiday right, which salute to my mama, who is a whole masquerade.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: She's for these streets, you know she, she out there on the road and them kind of thing.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: And this is the kind of thing where five she told me this week there she say after one time is our next, because this is exactly the kind of thing that she would have never missed.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I read in from the guardian here about invaders steel orchestra, if you didn't know, on republic morning, invaders juvie starting to become well, I shouldn't even say starting to become.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: It's been one of the big events around that time for a long time and you're starting to see more and more people partaking in it.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: If you look from the socials, for instance, you're starting to see where invaders juve is a vibe, especially for people who not not the young, young 20 somethings and them kind of thing, but you see, the people who in their 30s and mid-30s I think it's starting to see a downward stretch in terms of age of invaders juvie.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: So let me read this right.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: It said the year was 1937.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: The Breadfruit Tree at Manatee Family Home on Tragglery Road, opposite the Queen's Park Oval Sporting Ground was the meeting place for an unusual group of musicians.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Francis Peacock, wickham, kelvin Dove, conrad, coco Hunt, irvin Taylor Vermon, birdie Manette and Milton Ossie.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Manette were the founding members who talked about their own band of steel drums.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: They could have been described as a gang, but the neighborhood boys were going to focus on music, so they collected discarded paint cans, biscuit tins and other empty metal containers to be used as instruments.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: They decided to call themselves Oval Boys after their first pannier, located under the stands of the Queen's Park.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Savanna Stanley Hunt was the first captain of the band.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Later the band was led by Ellie Manette.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: The Oval Boys changed their name in the 1940s to Invaders after seeing the war movie the Invaders.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Invaders' permanent home was moved to under the breadfruit tree at 147 track road, where the band resides to this day.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: If you know invaders steel pan uh, close to 96.1, right opposite the oval right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Supposed to know invaders, steel pan uh.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Through experimentation with materials available on the street, they started a bridge gap between the earlier rhythmic beat of the tambu bamboo and the harmonites with uh sorry, the harmonies would soon emanate from the steel pan.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Those were days of rivalry and excitement.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: The rivalry between the bands of Laventil and John John in East Port of Spain and those in Woodbrooke and the West often led to violent clashes.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: During the 1940s, invaders was one of the most feared steel bands on the road.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: The sight of their battle flag was enough to frighten the faint-hearted.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: They would come from Woodbrook.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: They would come from Woodbrook with a crowd of people accompanying them.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Everyone would shout Invaders, boy invaders.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: That was the band to beat Lord Blakey, carlton, joseph, scalipso.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Steel band Clash documented a confrontation between invaders and Tokyo band from the East Dry River.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: In those days, ellie Manette was a creative force designing and tuning the pans for which she earned the title Father of Modern Steel Drum.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: His job in an iron foundry gave him a special feel and skill for steel and other metals.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Manette experimented with the 50-gallon oil drums in the place of biscuit tins.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: He sank the plain surface downward to enter a concave shape Instead of the convex shape used at the time.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: He went on to create six of the nine instruments in the steel drum family.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: He also discovered through trial and error the uniqueness of the note blend on each pan and that sweetness of the music could be brought uh, could be brought out with sticks wrapped with rubber.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Invaders.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Growth and change would do in part to its woodbrook location where beryl mcburnie's little carib theater was established in 1948.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: With invaders as resilient as a resident steel band, it may have been a factor in the 1960s, when shell oil company became one of the first steel band sponsors.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: In 1960, they were the first to record, and they did it again in 1962.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Ray holman ray's saga was one of the first recorded songs.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Shell later changed its name to trintok.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Only remember trintok.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: And then petro train remaining sponsorship, uh, retaining sponsorship until 1998.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: From 1999 to 2007, invaders was sponsored by BWI and Caribbean Airlines from 2007 to 2018.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: On 15th of January 2018, the band was sponsored once again by Shell Trinidad and Tobago Limited.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Invaders produced many fine pannis and tunas, who add to the musical legacy created by the founders.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: The youngest mannet brother, vernon Bernie Manet, was tuner and captain for 25 years, maintaining the Invaders' reputation for sweet pan.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Ray Holman, the prolific composer and arranger, started with Invaders when he was only 13 years old.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: His work with Pan and Rangers gives him a unique position in pan history.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Sporned from Alexander Ragtime Band and band and oval boys, invaders produced many other bands.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Among them were saigon, green eyes, gale stars, troppy tones, metronomes, troubadours, dixie stars, sombreros, starlift, girls, pat and third world.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: The source of this information, other than the trinidad express, of course.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Who's been so kind to publish an article like this?
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Source of the information?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Dr Kim Johnson.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: The Illustrated Story of Pan, first Edition, 2011.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Angela Smith, steel Drums and Steelmans 2012.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Salute to them, two authors, and salute to them for documenting some of this.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: You know when I am not the greatest pan man, the issue is that I don't know pan in the same way that I know Calypso and can remember some of these things off the top, and I know pan, people and documentation and things.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: It's how to get these things right and it makes me realize in looking at this right, it makes me realize that if I like to complain about Calypso and finding information about who arranged song and who sings song and where it come from and the history behind some songs, you can't really make that complaint about pan in the same way.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: You know, pan is documented in a different way to the rest of the culture.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I think it's pan people themselves.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Pan people might be naturally historians.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: They talk to the average person who went to pan.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: They could tell you who went in which year and who comes second and who was arranging for who and who get which frontline player from which band and all that kind of thing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: They're good, you know, they're on point to the thing.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: So salute.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: And I just wanted to take a moment to recognize Invaders Juve as it continues to popularize, especially among the younger groups.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: The younger these things get, the better, because one of the things about Invaders juve, it maintains a tradition of original juve days where there's no brass band on your road, it's only pan playing.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: And if, again, I spoke about it, uh, maybe since carnival time last year and you watch it again this year.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Right, the level of involvement in youth, of youths, in pan is an impressive thing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Impressive thing because that's the only way things will continue to live on and pan is not without its issues.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Right, we have our panchon bago headquarters opposite trin city.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: They were what, what they call it white elephant and then another hundred billion dollars just uh, put in place for, for for another steel band headquarters or panchon bago headquarters.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: So it will always have its issues.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: But you see, once you're starting to put things in the hands of youths and youths getting involved in it, I always feel it's in a good place.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So I have a little two tune to play, only in mind.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Only in mind, if anytime I say lord blakey, I have to play lord blakey and some of the names that here in the founding of the invaders band.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I have a tune with a verse with some of them names.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: So let me start with steel band clash now by lord blakey.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Listen to me now, neil.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You ready for my one?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Oh Lord, hear me, neil fixing me up here.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: You know so me afraid of hey boy, hear me now.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It was a bacchanal 1950 carnival Five foot show Waiting for you.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: My friend run and left his hat when they hit him a baseball bat.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Never me again Jump in a seal Burning butter.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Spin hey for me again to jump in a silver in butter's pain.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Hey ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Well, um you and the other, I understand what you're doing, neil, fix me up to study them.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And friend Wendy too, band clash.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Mama, you, if you see cutlass, never me again Something I still burn in butter's pain.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, boy, hear me, hear me, boy, music, boy, music, hear me now.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: But to start building.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: If you see stretch passing, husband and wife, look, they start running for their life.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: An Indian man selling bread shout out Lord, today, I'm dead.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Never me again Something I see burning for the pain.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, well, I'm here, you hear me?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Where are?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Where are Neil, neil, you going outside, you're telling me.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Neil, tell me something now.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, lad, hey, boy, music boy.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it didn't get hot, ah ha, if the thing get hot.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: If you see men get cut, lord Blakey run in a house by a lady.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: White on top.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: He lay in the bed.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: They belt a bottle and bust me head.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Never me again.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Jump in a seat.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Man in butter's pain, run brother, run, run, run brother.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Anybody could tell me what Blakey was doing on Topper Woman Beth, but Steel man, pelt, buckle and Bussyhead.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: We don't believe you have another tune here by the great King David Michael Rudder.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: When it comes to Engine Room, you remember I tell you about song before and after.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Let me play the before first and then I will get to the after, maybe my favorite, even though the tune of all time right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: The crowd started to cross.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're wrong with the band.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: It was wrong with the iron.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: God on call.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: We got the vibration Boss with the welding.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: When the iron fall, it humbled the band and everything started to crawl.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Everything started to fall and the truth was left.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: The engine room Is done the way that's caused the back and arm.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: The pan is the body, but the rhythm is harder to take.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: It's in the room.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: That is the solar cannibal.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Go read it, jump and say if you are young, good, you will scale.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Because she was in love with this pan man, she used to only trust her.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Just a prey on me head.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Now she's boasting to the neighbor next door oh, my granddaughter beats for a steel man.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: If it wasn't for you, girl, your daddy would have been so dread.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: But when you see her in the pain.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Others have to take her in and take it out on the street.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: The engine room Is done the way.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: That feeds me frustration.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Nearly every old pan man could tell me Thank you, because you know, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, thank you.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And we could go all day ask.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: The band play and the people feel it too.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: The engine room, lord, it could go on forever.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: See them jumpin' hands, give themselves a chance in the heat.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, the engine room, it could never die, never, because it's nine months.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: My mother make me check out.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: She heartbeat.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So I want a hard rhythm section so I can prove I'm patient.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: We gonna let them know they could never stop the drum.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: When people feel in the adoption and they show the reaction Love, the rhythm has something to show them where they your name call, your name call, your name call.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Give me sign, hurry and my pan the cabest and snail Somebody.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Go and call Francis.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: We come, tell him we ready to wail Bobby Muhammad with the bell, live a race and held the short rasta from Newtown.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Them love the gallery so I want them above the ground, go down Clarence Street, get, tell him God and then bring back him.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you, that was me before.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: You know the after We'll be right back.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: We go jamming steady In the engine room.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: We go get some wassey.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: In the meantime, why don't you join the line?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Grab your bottle of spud and come let we party in the engine room, oh, yeah, well, how else we will survive If we don't create a vice?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: This is a big part of we life.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: So Soka must live and never die In this party atmosphere.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: So sweet that I got this vibe.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: So all the artists you must be here cause, without a need to yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: So we cannot die.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: No up to them.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: We can't see that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: So we got to come together and try to find a way.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Find a way.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: No more fight.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Now we make it a unify.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Let the heat the money we got a unify.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Let the heat come on.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: We not taking dive.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: They go, come, run, we done when you see them.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Let this song end in some.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: When you're ready, everybody I got every man with me talk or jam in the engine.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: It's a fight, it's a struggle.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: We jamming to the steel pan in the engine.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Come and join the line, from your first to last one jamming.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: It's a party in the engine room.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: In the engine room, we go jamming, steady, thank you.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: The oxygen tank we got is the life we got.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: We come together and try to find a way.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Find a way.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: No more fight on.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: We got a unique life.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Let us keep the money.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: We not ending life.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: They will come run with us when you see them.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Get this song, get this song.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: When you hear the rhythm and the hell and the man with the concoction In the engine.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It's a vibe, it is a time and it's a jam.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: In truth, it's the fun.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Which one better, which one better before or after?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, right?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Engine room.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: This engine room although I mean David Rudder could be one of my favorites, right, but this engine room here is one of the greatest soakers ever put together.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: It could play anywhere Fet lime, backyard jam, front yard jam, it could be a wedding.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Anywhere you go in that engine room, it is one of the best kaiso kripso soaker, whatever you want to call it, right?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Anything you want to label it, that Olatunji is one of the best, and salute to Olatunji too, because Olatunji have a catalogue that's hard to touch.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: So, if you didn't know, the engine room is what is called the rhythm section in Panside, right, and as we're doing a little bit of before and after, we want to hear our next song from deep in the heart of the engine room.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Corey Fraser is the character the Iron Peter from Harder Steel Orchestra.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: When he jamming iron it's real confusion.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: He's the heaviest, poviest, fungiest, sweetest Iron Peter in the land.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Talking about Iron man, corey's sweeter than Honey.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Wendy man Jam iron Woman does leave a man, iron man, corey's, sweeter than Honey, looking king he jamming, thank you.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: On Carnival Day, all them girls going down Broadway by Hattel Steel Band, they all going off on Corey.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I am With looks of envy, men watching Corey.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: They say he too ugly To be so lucky.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Some nice, nice mama.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Does pick the fella.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: If you see them female on the way, men Corey, don't switch.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I am in a zeal the way.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Let's go read up Sweet Iron in the zeal Iron man.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Go read Sweet Iron, honey.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: When the man come iron, woman does leave the man Iron.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Go read Sweet Iron.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: When you look the pan at the world, woman does leave the man.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Is it a before and after?
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Does it count as before and after when it's within the family?
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Or let her tell me no, because when it's within the family, it might.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: It might not really count.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Does this count as a remake?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Let me, let me, let me play a slice of it for you, and you could tell me what you prefer, before or after Iron.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Man, oh, he's sweeter than when he lick the pan down.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: My hand Woman has.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Leave the man.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Iron man, oh, he's sweeter than when he lick the pan down.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: My hand Woman has leave the man.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Bring the iron.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Love, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Bring the iron, hold it, hold it, make some noise, jump around and make some noise.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Hold it, hold it, make some noise, jump around and make some noise.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you, when the music fills you up, ladies, just love alone.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Let me take on that journey.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Music brings me love, joy on my body.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: It all adds up.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, bring me.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Bring me, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it, I bring it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I bring it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Bring me All day.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Well, like before, after, I feel like that one, although I've been sticking with the modern day, right, I've been sticking with the after, but on that one I feel I had a good shot here.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: On that one right Shot it would be hard to go against.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: And the strangest of stories In the strangest of stories, strangest of stories I've seen in a long time, right, so you've got to help me to understand this one right.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Well, you know Laurel Azama Leasing, I may hear about this woman in so long.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Right, I hear about it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: So, pnmites, if you know there's a PNMite and you have issues here about the PNM, now is a good time to change right.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: And if you know you like the UNC, tune in, you're going to like this part.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Protection order granted against PNM Senator Laurel Zama Leasing.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: It's a strange thing Would she come out?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: You know long me about this one.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: This is from CNT3, right, they say.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Today Darren Leasing is offering no comment on a document in which he reportedly gained a restraining order against his wife, PNM Senator Laura Lazama Leasing.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Anybody have a number for Darren Leasing?
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: If I know who he is, give it up again.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: The purported court document began circulating on social media yesterday.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: In it the family court ruled in favor of Darren Leasing by granting an interim protection order against his wife, it said with effect from September 19 and continuing until it's revoked.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: By the use of her hands, fists or any implements, or by throwing any missiles or any object at or towards her husband.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: The police, we cover all bases here.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Luzama Leasing did not appear in the matter, nor was she represented by an attorney Contacted in the matter.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Today Darren Leasing said he had no comment, but efforts to contact Laura Luzama Leasing have proved futile thus far, A story we're going to have to continue to cover.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Darren Leasing, if you don't know, I believe is the son of the great Louis Leasing right.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: And domestic abuse and domestic violence is never funny.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Never funny, no matter which direction it goes in, right, it's never funny and it's something that we should always take seriously.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: This is no laughing.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe the man having objects, fists, whatever it is thrown at him.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: This is something that we care.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that the police giving it the seriousness that it deserves and that he is feeling safe and protected our apartment, our apartment, that he deserves and that he is feeling safe and protected.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: A part of me, a part of me, want to say that if I was to take a guess, if somebody show me pictures of people in our line up and they say which one of these women is be the man, this is not no laughing matter.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: These things is not no joke.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: You, these things are no joke.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: But I do, I do, I do.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: All I do is look through the papers and look through what's happening now and basically try to find ways that I could play Calypso.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I never want to get into man and woman business or anything.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I would like somebody to give me a contact for Darren Leeson because the way people get on homie, I might need to figure out how to get this paragraph.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I really like the paragraph says do not engage or threaten to engage in any physical abuse of me.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: You dig.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Don't use your hands, your fists, which means your fists are different from your hands.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Don't use your hands or your fists, which means your fists are different from your hands.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Don't use your hands or your fists or any kind of implement by throwing any kind of missile at me, Because I come here and simply defend as mankind.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I came here last week and I simply defended Terrence because nobody was on Terrence's side.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: This is an entertainment podcast.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I mean this is not designed, this is not a documentary, this is not real life.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: This is not real life.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: This is for people to enjoy the week and let the week go smooth.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Look how you have a nice little short week.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: You get a holiday yesterday.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Podcast come out today.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: You're cruising.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: This is an easy week for you to get through.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: And because I defend Terrence, I am seeing inklings of engagement and threatens of engagement, of physical abuse and so on, and I just have a few kaiso line up to play.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: That is in alignment with woman-led violence, having it on man.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Because the abuse when it comes to abuse, right, Physical abuse again, no joke, right.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: And you see that a lot with man to woman and things like that.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: But I feel for Darren Lee singing here, because the part that they leave out here, which is the mocha, I mean depending on who he is or who's your woman I mean, if it's Laura Lambert, you can see how you can get physical.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: But if you're an average woman and you're an average man, right, what are you going to do with your fist or your hand?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: You can't do me.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: How bad it could be.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: You ever see a woman throw something?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Ask them to throw something for you to catch.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Let them throw something valuable for you to catch.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: You say you can't throw.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: So how are they going to hit you if they're going to throw something?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: But the part where Darren leaves out here is the mouth part, the talking, the threatening to engage by talk or threatening to engage in abuse by talking to your rough or not talking to you or telling you a thing, and that is the part we have to have.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: So I have a few kaiso to play here for when the woman get the upper hand on you, Because the problem is usually that you just feel you have the upper hand on them and you know it's the lower hand.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: You have A shame and scandal in the family.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Why is me A shame and scandal in the family?
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: In Puerto Rico they are a worse family With more confusion.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Take it from me there was a mama and a papa with one child alone who wanted to be married and have a wife of his own, so he went to the papa.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: One child alone who wanted to be married and have a wife of his own, so he went to the papa.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: The papa said no, that girl is your sister, but your mama don't know.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Why is me a shame and scandal in the family?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Why is A shame and scandal in the family so?
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: he continued searching the rest of his life Because he really needed a wife.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: He met a wonderful girl with lovely figure, but afraid to consult his dear father, he met a lovely ducky which was twice as nice.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: He fly to the papa to get his advice.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: When the papa see the girl, he shout oh no, that girl is your sister, but your mama don't know.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Wah, wah, wah, wah is me know.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: That girl is your sister, but your mama don't know.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: So he went to the mama.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: The mama shook she head when she found out what her husband had said, so she paused for a moment, undecidedly.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: This time.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: The boy waited patiently.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Then the mama.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: She laughed and said go man, go your daddy.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your daddy, but your daddy don't know.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I tell you Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: You see the problem in life as a man Sometimes you feel you're giving a terence, but it's really a terence you're getting.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: It's just how it is going.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: It's just how it is going.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Nearly impossible to have the upper hand on them, right?
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: But one of my favorite upper hand tune, One of my favorite upper hand tune and I don't think it might be the first time I played this artist on this podcast 196 episodes in, although he's a bad, bad, bad, bad Calypso-nian, Maybe I shouldn't tell you.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Tell me if you know the voice Now, one of the most distinctive voices in Calypso.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: You know it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Big Patty said Next week's Sunday Be christened, we'll be right back.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Secret.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Don't let she husband hear it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us so.
• 47:39
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• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Louisa, make her baby, it's for the labor hurry.
• 47:44
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• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us so she has, she stupid husband planning big celebration.
• 47:52
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• 47:54
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• 47:56
  Speaker 1: The man is such a monkey, said he shall resemble him.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you, she know he ain't got no sense.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: She next door to see color and that is how we have been Big bet.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Now Come listen to this secret.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Don't let she husband hear it.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Louisa, make our baby is for the neighbor hurry.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us so she has.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: She's stupid but fun plan and big celebration.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us so.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us so.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: The man is such a monkey, said each I resemble him.
• 49:12
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• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Nice, pretty bike, thank you.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: If you don't want riot, come listen to this secret.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So that she has gone hear it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 50:03
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• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Louisa, make her baby, it's for the neighbor Harry.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all she have she's chocolate has gone.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Plan and big celebration.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all the man is such a monkey, say the child resembles him.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us all.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Don't tell us all don't tell us all A thousand bottles of lube.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: A thousand bottles of lube Avoided for as long as I could avoid it, right, but a thousand, a thousand bottles of baby oil.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, how long a bottle of baby oil is last year?
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: How long a bottle of baby oil is last year?
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Anybody have baby oil.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: It's a baby.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: It's a people who done past baby making age who still have the bottle of baby oil from when the baby was a baby.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: A thousand, a thousand.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Who are you going to buy baby oil?
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: By the case, it's a rough life If you're in your arsenal, right, if, if you're, if you're stable.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: When you call people over by you, it's like people like td jakes and and carl wins lonson is a lot of baby oil is a lot of baby oil, so big story.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: And I I get, I'm reading something this morning that's saying that, um, this is dr umar, right, if you know dr omar johnson.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Dr omar johnson basically saying here was he seen?
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: He say the only reason this diddy thing becoming an issue is because it's election time and they're trying to distract me from something.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: According to dr omar, what diddy did is not very different from what hugh hefner did.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Right, and hugh hefner died.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: There was a little bit of talk about hugh hefner and his baby oil ways when he had passed away, but I'll tell you that the general sentiment about Hugh Hefner was a man who was represented to the public as a pioneer entrepreneur, somebody who creates so much avenues for so much women, who creates a lot of avenues for a lot of young boys to go in the father thing and pull out a little magazine too.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: In the early days you could have got something.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: But Dr Uma's point is that them men and them like the freak off and the wealthy of society tend to like little freak off behind closed doors and baby oil go hard to use.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Mankind, tired Men, need uppers, downers and lubricators.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: It's just part of the game.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: So Dr Uma might be onto something.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I think I see both sides of the story here right, because when I see the video where Diddy kicked Cassie with all his might, with all his strength, everything he had in him, that man Legua kicked behind that girl, then this is something wrong with this guy.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Of course I am one of those who don't believe people should be in jail, but he whatever is the alternative to jail.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: That's where Diddy belong.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: He's something, something wrong with this man.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: The charges that brought against him.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: It's been a long time and I see him hanging around and you seevie jade, or I mean I was about a half case of baby oil by itself.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: They see him around and it wasn't looking like he was in hiding or he was looking to run, but the feds came down on him late, uh, early last week and he has been in police custody since, refused bail twice and I think, I think did he going down?
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I think did he going down people comparing it to like cosby or any great black person who would achieve a lot, especially the capitalist version of achieve right.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: You build big business, you had good money.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: You buy out this catalog, you want to buy this network and so on.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Or you want to get media influence.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: You know you have certain businesses that seem to be out of bounds for black individuals.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: You know you can't build no media conglomerate like he was trying to do.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: It revolt and thing.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: The the tendency is to silence individuals like these right now.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: I remember one of the things I had read about martin luther king was that, um, like terrence, he had he had his corrector.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, he had his corrector.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: But he'd be like a little bird.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, he's a man on tour for a long time.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: All that marching on these things not easy.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: You feel it easy to march and turn the other cheek and you know all these is not easy things to do.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: So sometimes you just need a little comfort when you're on your road.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Right, call them comfort girls.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: They say he did like a little comfort girl, right.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: And one of the cia uh efforts, documented right to bring down mart, down Martin Luther King, was to send comfort girls of the Caucasian persuasion, you know, white girls, bunny hoppers, according to Snow Bunnies, according to Dr Uma, they said they'd send a woman by him and that was part of the thing to break him down, to break up the household, break up the marriage, break up the image people have of him by showing that he was the white devil.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Devil, you know, I mean all them kind of thing that they say was done to to bring him down.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: And uh, I guess a lot of this past in his legacy is his legacy stands.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Well, you have a little martin luther king they remembered.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Well, history has treated martin luther king well, but it is a tendency and history might treat Bill Cosby well.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying nothing more about what man do wrong, right.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: The point I'm making is that when these men dead and gone, you might find that there's a turn of the tides where we look back at him fondly and we look at the Cosby show again.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Even R Kelly, who seemed to have done this film I was watching R Kelly and Gayle King.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Why kingdom right, when you, when you see r kelly and it was, it was hard to watch him because you see that he go into jail the wall starts to crumble around him and I I fear that we will see the same thing with diddy soon, where when he, when he's so wealthy and so powerful and he's so insulated from the rest of life.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Right, it might.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: You could you could see how it would be easy to lose sight of the fact that you are part of the real world.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Everybody around you is there for you.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Everybody is paid by you or taken care of by you, or the family or the household, the car to drive, all of us is taken care of by you.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: So they protect you and they insulate you.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: So you might know what the real world is about.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: I remember in making the band did he had get vexed with some fellas where they came the morning?
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't making the band.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Making the band did he had get vexed with some fellas where they came the morning?
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't making the band.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Making the band was where you make them walk for the cheesecake.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Right, there was a show where he was trying to pick a personal assistant I wonder if people remember that and one of the so everybody hustling and funs with bentley, who was his personal or his butler at the time, was part of the show, and one of the things I always remember is a guy who hustling you know you're trying to look good.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Did he now wake up?
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: He come out on the couch and he handed you the papers.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: And then he was like what is this?
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: He said well, I just thought you would get a paper to your mother, he thinking you're doing something good and he's like boy.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: You handed me a papers to read.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: You need to give me what I need to know.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: You want me to go through these papers to know what I'm supposed to know today, so I want you to basically cut out the articles or tell me exactly what are the main things you need me to know today, and I always found that instructive.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: You know the life of a billionaire, of a very powerful person, and all the decisions you make inconsequential for so many people and so many institutions and organizations that your focus is on not cluttering your mind and you had to get rid of the inconsequential decisions.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I read about bill gates and steve jobs and warren buffett and how routine their lives are.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Like steve jobs was wearing the same black turtleneck and jeans and new balance every single day and a lot of people.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: If you read books about people who highly organized or a lot of people depend on them are very powerful people a lot of times.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: One of you read books about people who are highly organized.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: A lot of people depend on them are very powerful people A lot of times.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: One of the things they eliminate is having to figure out what to wear every day.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: They say it's one less thing to think about.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: They just basically wear the same thing all the time and it doesn't matter, and I mean to me and you.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: I like to look good on them, although I wear the same thing every day, different versions of it, different versions of it.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: But the dead men want to make sure that as much of their brain power as possible could be dedicated to the very consequential decisions that they make on a day-to-day basis, and they could see that with diddy.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: So when you surround yourself with people to help you do that, and they giving you the news, they giving you what the public reaction is to everything they on tippy toes around you because they can't tell you certain things, or they can't tell you you're wrong, or I saw his apology video that was on instagram for the longest.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: While that thing looks so bad, he should have taken that on a long time, but you could clearly see it's almost like a man who put in a position to apologize for the first time and maybe since he was a child, he never had to apologize for anything, so he didn't.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: He almost didn't know how to do it.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: He didn't know how to look contrite or be sorry or be regretful or remorseful or any of that.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: He just looked like it's another day.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: And when I saw uh r kelly reaction in that interview where he was crying he couldn't sit.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Still, he was standing up.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Every time you keep telling him hey, sit down, you know, I mean, uh, I feel like that starts to happen when the walls fall around in other, all the people who was insulating here disappear, which I'm starting to see happen with Diddy Now.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I listen to Joe Budden every week and I listened to Joe Budden when he was singing the praises of Diddy as a great mogul and entrepreneur.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: And I listen now to the point where he basically saying Diddy is a POS right Piece of shh.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: And it is shocking sometimes to hear how people tune change.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: But I suppose in fairness to joe, but no, any of the other people are wrong.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: And when you really find out the substance of a man, you could, you could distance yourself from him quickly.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: But imagine when you had that kind of reverence and love all around you, especially in your closest circles, and then them people started to disappear.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: And now, for the first time in 30-something years, you have to face the public as a man and the mirror is held up to you and you see what you're doing.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's a space there, but the wider conversation around what Dr Omar is suggesting is like is this conspiracy theory real?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Is it a conspiracy theory at all?
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Once you're black and you reach a certain height of success, the Caucasian persuasion, the white woman, whatever your version of it, whatever your weakness is, will be sent, and you know what I mean.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: We put it around you so that, like any other human being, you will do wrong things.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Right, let me not fool ourselves into thinking that if me or you was an extremely I mean, let me put it this way we're not extremely powerful and we don't have a billion dollars and we do good or wrong things too, whatever your version of wrong is.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine if you, if you have that kind of access and power around here and you start to live in a world where there are no consequences for your actions.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Because if I bad spend money, I go, feel it when it coming close to month and all like now.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: So, right, you know we have consequences for action, but imagine how will we have no consequences?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: The camel and the needle lighting, right, remember that it's tough.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: It's tough, it's tough.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: So if, if everybody writes stimuli around somebody who have no consequences.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe any human will do this, do some of the things, and I'm not excusing it, but maybe any human will find themselves where there's violence or the hypersexual thing or whatever that vice is, and they find the right one or the drugs or whatever they could pay in this situation and then at least have enough information to bring it on when necessary.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: What I mean, if a man leave mansions full of recordings with people and them kind of thing, it's like you keep the information for them to bring it out or say some rumor or school or thought that he keep the tapes, because if you have too much information on too much people, then who could bring it down, who could sell you out?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Hence the reason people saying they raid the thing before they arrest him to make sure they have all his information up front so he can't go and release nothing but, and that you think of how powerful that is.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: So I even see in our article on forbes here saying sean diddy combs maybe may have firebombed kid kuddy's car according to charges.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: So more charges brought saying that he and kid kuddy's are younger rapper.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Right, they say, uh, they fall out and they had their thing and and he decided he gonna set the man car on fire and boast about setting his car on fire as well.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: I believe when he was playing um, there was one halloween where he was playing diddy, where he roll up on an actor it was michael b jordan, one of them, fellas, and he roll up on the man and they're like it's almost like you know, the rumors are wrong there about about, about diddy being violent and the Cassie video kind of confirms Well, not kind of the Cassie video confirms that for us.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: So it's one that we had to continue to watch.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: But I'll say that I take no joy in seeing people publicly humiliated like that and the idea behind the public ridicule seems to there's a definite one-sidedness to it in the states, because there's there's almost a shooting going on.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: What happened with harvey weinstein and maxine guillaume or whatever the woman name is, and so on, or, uh, is it woody allen is the one who they say marry a little girl and go on a liver bro, like there seem to be that different races could get away with some of these things.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Not saying that anybody should get away with it, but it seems to be that the black man is the one who gonna be ridiculed publicly.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: I always remember cersei from game of thrones, was it cersei?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Was his wife named stacy, because I know I'm saying this wrong, right, but when they had this walk of shame where she had to walk naked through the streets, I feel like that is our portion, that is what we end up getting when we walk down the wrong road.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: But thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers to everybody involved.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, we had to continue to watch what it is.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: And they say he on suicide watch as well.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: And I'll say that, no matter what he's done or what guilty or not, apart from that, I don't like the idea of being in jail done or what guilty or not, apart from, I don't like the idea of being in jail.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: But I would be deeply hurt if I was to hear that uh did, he was to commit suicide in jail.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: I don't want to put that out there, but just imagine how you would feel if you hear that tomorrow, regardless of what he's done.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: That's not going to be a good feeling for our community, right?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Uh, totally unrelated story, right, totally unrelated to that.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: It had to segue out of topics like that, but uh, as the man used to call himself brother lovely.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: We talk about rowley and creating a culture of love.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Now you know I mean rowley.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Ahead of republic day says create a culture of love.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Uh in a in.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: In a message marking the 48th anniversary of trinidad and tobago republic, dr uh sorry, prime minister, dr kid rowley urged citizens to reflect on the nation's achievements while confronting the challenges ahead.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: He praised the country's progress on the world stage, but also acknowledged the troubling rise in crime.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: As per direct message from terence D Elson, quoted here, saying we stand proudly as a nation firmly established and respected globally, rowley declared.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: He reflected on the transformation TNT has undergone since becoming a republic in 1976, stating the generation that has witnessed this moment will attest to the fast-paced, radical and complex changes we've experienced since.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Rowley highlighted the country's role in global diplomacy, pointed to Trinidad and Tobago's recent presidency of the United Nations General Assembly as a testament to its strength.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: He specifically recognized Ambassador Dennis Francis for representing the country's interest, stating his diplomatic skills carried the reputation and ambitions of this young nation on its shoulders.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister celebrated the country's many contributions to the world, from the industrial success of Point Lisa to the invention of the steel pan.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: He paid tribute to national heroes across sports, culture and science, including Hazley Crawford, keshaan Walcott, brian Lara and Beryl McBurney.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Her impact on the world stage can be described as phenomenal.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Despite the many accomplishments, rowley did not shy away from the country's current struggles, particularly the rise in violent crime.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: He noted that a significant portion of the national budget is allocated to fighting crime and called on citizens to support law enforcement.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: The police service must be more inventive and forceful in its response to crime.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: The police service must be more inventive and forceful in its response to crime.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: In a personal appeal, prime Minister encouraged parents and guardians to foster love and responsibility within their homes, create a warm culture of love.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: No-transcript.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Rowley closed his message by calling on citizens to appreciate the natural beauty of Trinidad and Tobago and to take pride in the country's accomplishments.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Let us explore, enhance and enjoy the wonders of our land, he said.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Adding let us all salute our republic.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Happy republic day.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: He concluded offering greetings on behalf of the government and his family.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: I just want it to be known right that bring greetings on behalf of the government and his family.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I just want it to be known right that I really just read that article and I had to find some kind of way in this episode to bring the PNMites back into the fray.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: I call it the PNM, the PNM faithful, straight too far away.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: But again, I like the message.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: I like the message of bringing back loving you home.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: I always it doesn't always sit right with me when I read somebody boasting or talking about or using the justification that plenty budget going towards, uh, national security as a means of saying that will lead to a better crime situation.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: I think what we need to start to do is put plenty budget behind sports and culture and some things.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: That gives you alternatives.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: But I like the idea of bringing back loving the household and loving the community and loving the country.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: Now the election back and I'll die away.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: In short, this is what I have to say.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: Let us forget spites and grudges and concentrate.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Come, let us sit and try to relate, because now more than ever, we must show discipline, tolerance and production to build a strong and better nation.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: I say that is the main foundation.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: So come, let us hold hands in hand, because this is our land.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: Come my brother, come my sister, and let us build a nation together.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: Remember the key to success is working hard For our country.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: We must have regard.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: Forget all your differences.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Let me start to build, and on what to progress?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: We surely will, because now more than ever, we must show Discipline, tolerance and production To build a strong and better nation.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: I say that is the main foundation.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: So come, let us put hand in hand, because this is our land.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: Come my brother, come my sister, and let us build a nation together.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: I'll call my sister and let us build a nation together.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: Mmm, mmm, mmm.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: Mmm, mmm.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: So much of things that we need to see about.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Surely I do have to spell them out, cause you know as well as I do the only way Is putting more effort and less play, because now more than ever, we must show Discipline, tolerance and production To build a strong and better nation, thank you, and let us build a nation together.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: I encourage any prime minister or future prime minister in this country when it comes to addressing people on independence or republic, they just play that Nobody to write no speech on all the politics.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Forget it, just play that right.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: As I'm reading this and I'm going through this, I'm now seeing here where, um, uh, rhoda barrett don't receive a reaction protocol thing telling about she posting laurel, lee lizama and them kind of things.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: So wherever I say about that, I didn't mean that right, I was talking about fictional characters.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Right onto serious matters winnie fred atwell's relative welcomed's Hall honour.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: It's been a long time coming so as we continue to shed our colonial past, at least on paper and by name and by signage and so on.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: If you didn't know, government approval of the auditorium of Queen's Hall being named after pianist Winifred Atwell has been met with pride by relatives who believe that, given Atwell's contribution to the musical landscape, this should have happened sooner.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: The naming ceremony took place at Queens Hall on September 23rd, followed by a concert Ivory and Steel that will feature classic music from Atwell's album of the same name, with a Trini flavor.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: I think it's wonderful that she's being recognized in this way.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Atwell's cousin, helen Atwell-Coutole newsday in a phone interview.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: She has put Trinidad and Tobago in the map in so many positive ways.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: It's good when we can appreciate our talent and start recognizing our icons and sons and daughters of the soil.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: I agree, I was a child when Winnie would visit and I remember grandpa throwing parties for her at his home in Jubilee Street, tunapuna.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: We were always in such awe because she was so fancy.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: I remember her dancing with grandpa Nicole.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Nicole Charles, who lives in the UK, told Newsday.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Winnie was my late grandmother's sister.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Her being on it like this has been a long time coming.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: Winnie's music is adored by Australians, so much so that Australian piano teacher and psychologist, harold Hanlon, started an online fan page over 12 years ago.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: It features all Atwell's music.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: I met her when I was 23.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: Hanlon told Newsday in a phone interview she was deciding to return to Trinidad after her husband died.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: I wrote to her and asked her to meet her before she left, and she invited me and my parents to her home and allowed me to play her grand piano in her presence.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Then she asked me to play some classical pieces and gave me an autographed photo of herself.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: I had a camera with me and I took a photo of her, but I was so starstruck I wasn't even able to ask her if I could.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Hanlon said his biggest.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Hanlon said his parents were big fans of Atwell and his mother was overwhelmed because there were not many celebrities who would invite fans to their homes.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: My parents told me about one of our concerts they attended and there were encores after encores.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: So encore for that right For Winifred Atwell, famed Trinidadian pianist right A name that, if you're like me, you might have never heard about before until this discussion started around Queensville.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: So it's something that you know me well enough to know I feel good about this right.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: More praise for this From the Newsday by Richard Kahn Elton John congratulates Trinidad and Tobago for Winifred Atwell's Queen's Hall Honor.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: What about Elton John?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: What about him?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Long time I ain't heard about him.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Five-time Grammy Award-winning singer, songwriter and pianist, elton john has congratulated trinidad and tobago for renaming queen hall, queen's hall auditorium to honor trinny, born pianist, whom he credits as his first idol.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: In a video message played at the renaming ceremony uh, on september 22, john said winifred atwill gave me the momentum to become who I am.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to the republic of trinidad and tobago on renaming the queen's hall auditoritorium to the Winifred Atwell Auditorium Well deserved and thank you so much.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: John said his family bought a lot of Atwell's album when he was a little boy learning to play the piano.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: The turning point for me with Winifred Atwell was seeing her on television, seeing how beautiful she was, her smile, the way she played the piano.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: She could do classical things.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: She could do great boogie, woogie stuff.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: I was introduced.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: I was entranced by her.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: She fascinates me and I fell in love with her.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: I fell in love with her kindness.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: She had an aura of kindness and talent and her smile.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: I copied that smile.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: I idolized her.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: She was literally my first idol as a piano player and it's never left me.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Really, she's always in my heart.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: John has never been one to hide the instrumental role that Atwell had on him and his regard for her.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: It was even included in his 2019 autobiography Me.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: In it he described her as a big, immensely jolly Trinidadian lady who performed on stage with two pianos.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: I loved her sense of glee, the slightly camp way she would announce and now I'm going to my other piano.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: The way she would lean back and look at the audience with a huge grin on her face while she was playing, like she was having the best time in the world.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: In his video message, john added that he was able to meet her at an airport after he had made it big in show business.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: She came over to me, we gave each other the biggest hug and she bought me a koala bear, which I thought was so sweet.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: So I did meet my idol.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: The name change was approved by the government on August 22nd.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Atwell was born in 1915 and raised in tunapuna.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: She moved to new york after world war two, then to england in 1946.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: She was highly popular in britain and australia from the 1950s, with a series of boogie, woogie and ragtime hits selling over 20 million records.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: She was the first black artist to have a number one hit in the uk single shot and, as 2023, was the only female instrumentalist to do so.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: In 1969, she was awarded the Humminbird Medal Gold for her contribution to world music.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Salute, salute, salute to Winifred Atwell.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: Salute to whoever organized this ceremony too.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: That had the where at all to contact Elton John to get a video message done.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: That is huge, and salute to Elton John for actually doing it.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: I would assume that at this age and stage, with Elton John, it would take somebody who he genuinely loves and idolizes for him to go and do a video message.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: So salute to that.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: We live and learn right.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: And then people just want to tell me the Pereras and them of this world just want to tell me the peraras and them of this world is want to tell me, well, why we had to remove and lose our history and them kind of thing.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: They concerned about the history we lose in where the queen is concerned, why we had to, but they're not concerned about the fact that things like this are buried.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: And somebody like me, who spent the better part of my life in school hearing about winnie fred atwell for the first time, let me, let me, let me sort of consider them things too.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Let me, let me, let me at minimum try to consider both.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: We're talking about bird medal, right?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: And uh, yesterday would have been the day where they give out prizes and so on, awards.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: You can't say prizes, awards, awards to the people.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: So salute to all the awardees who collect the awards and so on.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Yesterday I'm going to the guardian, my akash samarubi, because we see some, um, some ex-police commissioners, right, and ex-police commissioners receiving national awards.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: At first glance I'm thinking with crime being the biggest problem we've had for the last four decades.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: It had to be a real little, little, little, little little commissioner.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: They're giving national award because clearly any commissioner we had in my lifetime it probably didn't deserve no national award based on the biggest national problem that we have.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: And them men was in charge of the police at the time.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: But I will say that when I saw the comments, a lot of people maybe people in the service and people in the force and so on were talking about these gentlemen with in glowing terms.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing I talk about.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: Did you know sometime you had to step aside, sometimes even die, like you had to pass away sometimes for your legacy to be so great?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: You know, think of the people who have the biggest legacy in the world, like the greatest.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Uh, people only have positives to say about them, like when you look at the way people revere Bob Marley, even in the way he had multiple children and women all about and things like that.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: They still say the best about Bob Marley.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: Even in the Bob Marley documentary there are women and them laughing out.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: They say well, bob is a very good-looking man, you have a lot of girls.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Damien Jr Gong's mother talking about him I know he was married talking about it.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: I know he was married.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: I know he was married at the time.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: The key is to get out of here early in life, because you're either going to stay around, you're just going to become villainized as you stay around longer and longer.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: But let me read from here.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: Former acting police commissioner James Philbert and Stephen Williams have hit back at Gary Griffith who claimed the national awards were because of political favoritism.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: So Stephen Williams, james filbert were the ones who received national awards and gary is upset.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: But gary's upset kind of guy I don't.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen gary happy in a long time since england win a game or score a goal and gary jump in that pool.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: I didn't see gary.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: Gary is not the happiest kind of fella.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: You're always upset at something.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: Trinidad and tobago police service and Welfare Association also believes Gary Griffith's comments were in poor taste.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Gary, who himself is a past head of Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, had no congratulatory words for neither Stephen Williams nor James Filworth, who yesterday received the Shekonia Medal of Silver for their contributions to national security.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: Instead, griffith said the political selection of national awards has now diluted their significance and made a mockery of these once prestigious positions.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: In a media release, griffith said the political selection of national awards has now diluted their significance and made a mockery of these once prestigious positions.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: In a media release, griffith questioned what record of success they had to justify these awards.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: These awards appear to have been granted based solely on the fact that they held the post, albeit in an acting capacity, and they might be the recipients of political favoritism.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: There seems to be no evidence of tangible achievements or performance metrics that could warrant such national recognition.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Gary, of course, have that, because Gary could boast that between 2021 and 2023, the murder rate was at the lowest in the history of Trinidad and Tobago, when everybody was locked down at home and nobody came with anybody.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: Griffith added that it was also an insult to the over 30 police officers who lost their lives during the covet 19 pandemic and the thousands of others who conducted their duties with what he called utmost professionalism during the global crisis.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what that statement means.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: What is the relation between those two things, gar?
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: I'm confused.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: The former commissioner said it warrants a reassessment of how these awards are handed out, but this did not sit well with former acting commissioner james philbert, I expect that to be the case.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Initially reluctant to respond to griffith, philbert admitted that the allegations put a damper on a day of celebration for him and his family.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: He said what I know about the police service is commissioners of police, do not jump and bite, bite up on the commissioner's back.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: All right, this is a strange conduct for someone who was also a commissioner.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: What will he gain by this?
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: I have been in the children and to make a police service since 1967.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: I've never seen a past police commissioner in the media bad talking other commissioners well, one, maybe, that's true.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: Two, maybe that needs to start for me to shape up a little bit.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: Filbert added that griffith does not know anything about his 43 years in utero.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: That's fair.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: Fair because I suppose my initial thing is like we're getting them think, for if there was conditional police under the highest crime it had in trend, but I suppose and in fairness to them, they the only part of their career was not as commissioner, they would have spent a lot longer in the ttps, contributing and and then rise to the level of commissioner.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: So okay, I get you, philbert.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: This is a strange and distasteful thing from mr griffith if I'm standing up and doing and if I stand up and do nothing for 15 years, mr griffith wouldn't pass what I did.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: Philbert, also rubbish allegations of political connections.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: I don't have anyone to give me a political favor.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know who recommend me.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: I did not ask anyone to give me anything.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: I'm going to receive it with honor because that is what my country appreciates.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: That is what my country appreciates me for.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, let him say what he wants.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: Let him let him say what he wants.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: Let him enjoy himself.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: I'm going to avoid an unnecessary back and on.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, former acting commissioner stephen williams sought to point out what he described as the hypocrisy behind griffith's criticism.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: He said when griffith applied for the position of commissioner, his cv boasted of spearheaded the minister ministry of national security at a time when trinidad and tobago recorded the lowest number of crimes in 31 years.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: When he published his achievements in 2014 in relation to success and crime reduction, who was he sitting commissioning?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: Shots fired.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: There's no shots with the shots.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what I mean to press.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: Shots fired the man say you went and boast when he was applying.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: You went and boast and talk about how you see, I was minister of national security crime was the lowest you know.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, and that guy any work?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Because steven williams say I was the commissioner of police when he gave a walk so he was boasting about my work.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: He said he is taking things which he did not do and bigging up himself and crying down somebody.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Who is crying down somebody has not doing with the same information.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to all the fellas on all the awards.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: Boy, don't study, gary, don't study nobody else when you get them kind of things happening to you and for you, right, don't study nobody, just accept the award and enjoy the award.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: Don't even study me when I come to say a thing about it because again, uh, I was.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: I was really thinking of it as their time as police commissioner and it's an odd thing to see.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: But I encourage you to go and read the recipients of several awards.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: What you will see is that once you reach police commissioner, you're likely to get a national award at some point in time.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: Once you reach prime minister, president, chief justice, once you achieve some of these positions within the whether it's the political directorate, governance, police or public service, it is likely that your name will come up for a national award.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: So, despite everything I want to say about it, congratulations to them, congratulations.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: When people in the position we go, get them pressure and everything, but when man retire and everything, let the men get their accolades and them kind of thing.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: In peace, now man, don't make it into something that we had to be sour about, right?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: Salute to them and congrats to them.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Before I get out of here, I do want to talk a little bit.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: I've been talking about Roy Cape for the last few episodes as well, because of the man he is that may never die down.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: I see a headline here by Gregory McBurney from the news.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: They're saying Marshall calls for support for Roy Cape's foundation to honor his legacy.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: So Mr Marshall Mantano says there needs to be more support for the Roy Cape Foundation as he believes there's the best way to memorialize the legendary musician and band leader.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: He made these suggestions while speaking with Newsday after Cape's funeral at the National Academy for Performing Arts.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: Cape 82, who died on September 5th after suffering a stroke this morning was celebrated for his profound influence on Trinidad and tobago music scene.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: So, uh, I think this is an important call.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: Let me just go back to where marshall woods will montano, the reigning calypso monarch, recalling his first meeting with roy cape at the age of nine, described him as a one-of-a-kind man who did a lot for young musicians.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: He suggested cape had already memorialized his own legacy through roy cape, through the roy cape foundation, and said what is needed now is greater support for it.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: The foundation is bringing music and various instruments to young, underprivileged children and communities and I think we need to help support that mission.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Every child must have an instrument.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: Every child must touch music.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: I feel we should all support his dream.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: He started it and left it there for us to pick up in his name, and it will be a wonderful blessing.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: Cape's legacy of excellence and commitment to development of local music resonated throughout the ceremony as tribute performances from his mentees lifted the crowd from their chairs with applause.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: I want to say something right beyond and I agree 100 with marshall's call for support for the Roy Cape Foundation.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: So we will be doing our part to get more information about the Roy Cape Foundation and see what it is that we can support and publicize that information.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: But as I was looking through the funeral, you always have the performances in tribute when people in the culture pass away.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: I just want to take a moment to recognize Destra Garcia, right, destra is on her next level, she quickly becoming the funeral singer.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: Right, not to minimize anything she's done before, but in St James right, where I grew up in St James right, once it's a foundation, st James person, tom goes singing in your funeral.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Right, where I grew up in St James.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Right, once he's a foundation, st James person, tom will sing in your funeral.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Right, excuse me for a minute.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: Right, this is just for this is an inside thing for St James people.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: If you're born and grown in St James, right, tom is going to come and sing in your funeral.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: He's going to sing a song by the very man we talk about we're going to talk about in this episode, we spoke about in Elton John.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: Right, I'm telling you when my time comes, if Tom's still around, tom is going to come and go to the funeral when you're going to bury, whether you're going to bury or you're going in the crematorium or you're going down by the creek.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: Right, tom is going to come in your funeral.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: You could be Muslim, hindu, christian or whatever Tom going to climb up on a height on the mausoleum in the cemetery, wherever you're going, wherever you be, and Tom is going to say goodbye Trini Rose, I'm going to sing like a candle in the wind.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you the guaranteed money.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: Anybody in St James Pass away, tom will sing in your funeral.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: Don't take Tom singing in your funeral as anything to do with what you and Tom had going on.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Don't do the baby oil thing right.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: Just know living from St James and, baby, you're allowed to sing.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: Just know different from St James and you're wrong.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: Tom will sing.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: I'll even only listen.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: I'll even only listen to this episode because, in echoing the sentiments of Dr Rowley calling for calling for love in the household, I like the idea.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: I like the idea they don't tell me I'm already.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like the idea.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: I like the idea they don't tell me I'm already.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like the idea of the call whatever.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: There's not much more you could do in a society where it's not looking like we in, so in, in, in, fully in control of all the things that happen in society, especially if you use the crime rates to judge it right.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: It's so hard to say that we we happy here and we living, but I think Independence and Republic Day tend to give us the opportunity to reflect on who we are as a nation and we must also take that time to look forward to what we want as a nation.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: I know it's easy to come here and say the Altsing and them, fellas and them and all this kind of thing, yeah, and they don't want crime and I just do it myself and I spend enough time 196 episodes asking how much of them are coming and complaining about the government when it comes to crime and what they're doing about crime and the systems and the policy and all those types of things.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: But if I had an independent message for people or a republic message for people, I think the most important thing for us to do as a society and for us to never stop doing is to look within.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: I really, like Kurtz, I learned how such a powerful calypso this year.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: The song is First Investigation.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: I know they couldn't beat Marshall.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, even if they'd beat Marshall they wasn't beating Karin Ashi, right.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: But that First Investigation is such an important song where the first duty it's like to our children, because these fellas and them who would see a minister and go and rob a bureau or run in somebody's house or take somebody's money or make deal with people in the bank to know when you withdraw money and come and rob.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: They are us, they are of our society, they're not anything different from us.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: We have this separatist mentality, all of us.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: Well, the best way to deal with crime is to separate ourselves from what we deem to be high crime areas, and so the first thing we do when we get a little bit of money is, uh, buy a car, wait quieter on the inside, go and live in a different area.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing is wrong with those things.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: Right, my personal security and the security of my family and my responsibility.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: So I had to do what I had to do, but a part of the love that we had to show had to start within the household.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: These children grew up in households, just like me and you.
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  Speaker 3: They grew up in communities.
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  Speaker 3: They was in the church, they was in the sports group, they was in whatever the community used to build.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: There was any businesses.
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  Speaker 3: If you live in St James as a youth, you work in Dennis and them bar and Dennis' father had the bar.
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  Speaker 3: You work by Smokey and Bunty and them.
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  Speaker 3: Or you work by the electrical shop by Miss Barbara and them.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: You do a little work by Larry who used to fix TV, the community communities who's raised here.
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  Speaker 3: So that song, that Calypso First Investigation, is an important one for what we want as a nation going forward.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: Because if we want betterment as a nation we don't see already.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: No pun intended, you can't depend on DL Singh or Rowley or any of the other people who are going to come and take those positions, and when they come in for the position which is next year, them fellas go claim all kind of thing that they could solve, that they can't solve anything.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: The things had to be we, we.
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  Speaker 3: We living in too remedial a society, we trying to fix thing what done, unfix and mash up already when we have the opportunity to bend the stem, when it young, you know, I mean we not paying enough attention to what happening in our households, our communities, our churches, our music groups, our communities, our churches, our music groups, our little relationships.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: We're not paying enough attention to them.
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  Speaker 3: We're letting the households run loose, the communities run loose and so on, and then 10 years down the road we're shocked that they have a high crime rate.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: We're shocked at it.
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  Speaker 3: And then we're trying to scramble by putting as much money into national security as possible.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: We have a budget to read next week, you know, and in this budget, when I come back here next week, I will be talking about the fact that national ministry, national security, getting most money again must happen for the last 20 something years.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: That that will not change.
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  Speaker 3: So we have us.
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  Speaker 3: We have a, a backward looking, remedial way of looking at development and what our society should be.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm playing this song and I'm leaving you with this episode to encourage you to fix what we could fix, fix what's right in front of us.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: A big part of what we're dealing with today.
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  Speaker 3: This ain't going to fix now the pride we feel as trainees when we do the parade and then we come down Traggery Road and water fire trucks spray some people.
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  Speaker 3: We still have a lot of national pride.
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  Speaker 3: The little bit of pride we feel when we care when our football match.
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  Speaker 3: Again, we care when our you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: We care when we cricket night.
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  Speaker 3: A salute to Dwayne Bravo, a salute to everything and thank you for everything you have done for us as a West Indies cricketer, as a Trinidad and Tobago Cricketer, red Steel, red Force and TKR Thank you for everything they have done for us.
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  Speaker 3: But as we look at the things that bring us pride and joy as a society, we must remember that those things also came from us, just like how the crime come from us.
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  Speaker 3: So if it is, we want the thing fixed.
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  Speaker 3: The first place we have to look in is inside.
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  Speaker 3: ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: They will paint you black every day, and the right things they will never say.
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  Speaker 1: Like our sportsmen being rated among the best, our scholars of Satan cast every test and put us right alongside the rest.
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  Speaker 1: But then our pinch lake Is the greatest one of its kind.
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  Speaker 1: Our sugar and oil is readily refined.
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  Speaker 1: So you see, friends, this is a real piece of no man's mind.
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  Speaker 1: They just talk some nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: Me ain't know where they're doing it for About so much violence.
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  Speaker 1: And you would swear that we fight in war.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: Of course we have with delinquents to face, but just like any other place, look at things they say about here.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: It's really too much for me to bear, because my people are daily making progress without any form of stupidness, and in this way we must gain success, for when we're moving, we all move as one body.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: No bickering between you and me.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Our policy stands for equality.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Now, when a stranger spending a little time in this lovely aisle every day, you see him.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: He always have a hearty smile.
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  Speaker 1: When his time is up to depart, he will say with pride in heart I'll be back, you could bet your life, and if I can't come, I will send my wife and then he'll tell you he really wants her to come To drink some rum and have plenty fun In this great island in the sun.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: For Trinidadians, as foreigners we call it doesn't matter whether big or small Our impure and true-for friends.
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  Speaker 1: We treat us for one and all.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: So all of them, we're talking.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: They're either drunk or they're staring mad, or maybe they're forgetting that their universe belongs to Trinidad.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you, why?
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Our steelbanks is the best talent in the world.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: Like how it shows our stories are told, it is written to touch your soul.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: So, trinidad, this lovely land of my, both Small but overwhelming in whole, and, as you know, carnival is the greatest for the Canada.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: Bally Bally, we wait for you, bally Bally, bye.