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Chuck & Buck 6-18 Hour 3: Brad Evans, spreading the ball out and Sup? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's our eight o'clock hour here on this Thursday, Chuck
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  Speaker 1: Pal Ashley Ryan with you. We got all sorts of
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  Speaker 1: cool stuff to do before ten o'clock today, and we
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  Speaker 1: won't go one step further without talking about tomorrow's big
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  Speaker 1: matchup between the US and Australia, as it will be
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  Speaker 1: the second match for both teams in the World Cup,
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  Speaker 1: and this one just so happens to be held right
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  Speaker 1: here in Seattle. It's going to be an ahem, I
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  Speaker 1: tell you mayhem, absolute mayhem. And joining us now on
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  Speaker 1: the program. I'm glad that he's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: regular here throughout the World Cup. Former Sounders star Brad
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  Speaker 1: Evans is with us right here on Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, sir, I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I've been just glued to the television for nine hours
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  Speaker 3: every day.
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  Speaker 1: Is that is that true?
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  Speaker 2: It is dead true. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It has been soccer NonStop all the time, in the
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  Speaker 3: house or in the studio, whatever it may be. It's
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  Speaker 3: kind of my dream, to be honest. It's just been
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  Speaker 3: enthrawling so far in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: Well great, So what is a soccer player like? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of a lot of American sports
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  Speaker 1: fans that one day nothing but draws, and people wonder, okay,
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  Speaker 1: how really fun was that for people to have had
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  Speaker 1: four draws in one day. What does it do to
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  Speaker 1: an actual soccer player that loves the World Cup this
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  Speaker 1: much to see four draws in one day?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I mean soccer is soccer. And one day we
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  Speaker 3: had a touchdown scored with Germany scoring seven goals. So
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  Speaker 3: you kind of have to spread the wealth over the tournament.
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  Speaker 3: Not every game is going to be seven to one,
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  Speaker 3: and not every game is going to be nil nil.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're going to get surprises every single day.
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  Speaker 3: I think the more captivating story is who is drawing
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  Speaker 3: on those days. So if you take Spain versus Cape Verde, right,
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  Speaker 3: you really break down the numbers. Spain is a massive country.
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  Speaker 3: They've won World Cups, they've they've won the European Championships
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  Speaker 3: multiple times, and then they're going up against a country
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  Speaker 3: that has five hundred thousand people and they get a
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  Speaker 3: result against them. There's more to the storyline than just
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  Speaker 3: these draws. And then obviously you have Messi two nights
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  Speaker 3: ago that scores a hat trick, who's arguably the best
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  Speaker 3: player ever. And then Christiano Ronaldo is watching that at home, saying,
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  Speaker 3: I got to go out and show up in this
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  Speaker 3: game for Portugal, and they end up tying one to
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  Speaker 3: one against a team that they should beat on paper
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  Speaker 3: any day of the week. So it's really about spreading
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  Speaker 3: the love here. And I had trepidation over thirty two
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  Speaker 3: teams in this tournament versus forty eight now thirty two
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  Speaker 3: in the previous iterations, thinking that it was going to
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  Speaker 3: dilute the competition. And yes, obviously Germany gets a seven
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  Speaker 3: to one result, but there's been some pretty big matchups
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  Speaker 3: for big teams against smaller countries that are ranked number
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  Speaker 3: three or four in the world, playing against a ranked
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  Speaker 3: team at you know, seventy eighty whatever it may be,
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  Speaker 3: and then getting a result against them, and in soccer,
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  Speaker 3: you just cannot This is more like March Madness than
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  Speaker 3: anything else in American sports, right You get a sixteen
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  Speaker 3: seed coming in and blowing out a number one seed,
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  Speaker 3: So that's the way that I look at it. Albeit
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  Speaker 3: it's not a one game knockout. You get multiple games
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  Speaker 3: to kind of stake your claim. So there's still a
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  Speaker 3: lot of soccer left to be played. Tons more goals
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  Speaker 3: will be scored. But for me, it's more of a
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  Speaker 3: chess match than it is necessarily about, you know, every
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  Speaker 3: game being seven to one and a complete blowout. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, former Sounders star Brad Evans is with us. He's
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  Speaker 1: doing analyst work as part of our World Cup coverage
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  Speaker 1: here at KJAR as well, and so great to have
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  Speaker 1: them with us here again today. So were you as
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  Speaker 1: impressed with the US's first performance as the seemingly everyone was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think they really showed what they can do.
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  Speaker 3: You know, three years ago this sort of qualification kind
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  Speaker 3: of started. Albeit the US didn't have to qualify for
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  Speaker 3: this World Cup because they were hosting, but they still
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  Speaker 3: played a ton of games. And during that time I
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  Speaker 3: asked a lot of questions of this team because I
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  Speaker 3: knew that they had the talent playing at some of
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  Speaker 3: the best teams in the world, playing in the Champions
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  Speaker 3: League every single year, but it seemed like every time
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  Speaker 3: they came together, there wasn't really a team. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think they didn't really play.
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  Speaker 2: As that unit.
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  Speaker 3: And you really can only have one guy that is
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  Speaker 3: going to be your playmaker and the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: guys have to do the dirty work. That's what Argentina does.
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  Speaker 3: They let Messi doing everyone else. Every time they get
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  Speaker 3: the ball, looks for Messi. And what I saw a
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  Speaker 3: home opener in a World Cup was a team that
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  Speaker 3: rose to the occasion. Most importantly, everyone showed up and
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't about scoring the goals. It was on the
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  Speaker 3: defensive side of things. For me, it was the sacrifice.
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  Speaker 3: It was the balls in the air. Every single fifty
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  Speaker 3: to fifty was a challenge, every first and second ball
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  Speaker 3: they fought for to regain possession of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Paraguy's no slouch.
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  Speaker 3: This is a team that had to qualify in a
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  Speaker 3: region that had Brazil, Ecuador, Columbia, Argentina. They had to
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  Speaker 3: get results against those big teams and they did and
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  Speaker 3: then for the US to put four goals on them,
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  Speaker 3: I was just more than impressed. The big question mark
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  Speaker 3: is going to be without Polisic, which I don't think
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  Speaker 3: is going to start or play. I think they're going
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  Speaker 3: to have to save him for later in the tournament.
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  Speaker 3: Can they get another resounding result against what will be
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  Speaker 3: a really difficult Australia team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not looking like Christian Pulisic is going to
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  Speaker 1: play tomorrow. So what kind of layers of waves in
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  Speaker 1: terms of impacting this team and its strategy is that
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  Speaker 1: going to have?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you know, anytime I played with the national team,
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  Speaker 3: there were a couple guys that were kind of the
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  Speaker 3: man and it was Clint Dempsey at the time. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: it was Josie Altador who's a fantastic goal scorer. Landon Donovan,
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  Speaker 3: Michael Bradley was another player.
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  Speaker 2: Who was just a mainstay. He was the captain. All
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  Speaker 2: those wore the captain's.
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  Speaker 3: Armband, and there is something to be said about losing
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  Speaker 3: your sort of captain, top tier player in a big
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  Speaker 3: tournament like this. I think I would feel different if
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  Speaker 3: the team was playing against in Argentina, Brazil or one
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  Speaker 3: of the top ten teams. The fact that it's Australia,
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  Speaker 3: which yes, I'm sure we'll talk about them, but this
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  Speaker 3: team will have the ability to kind of move some
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  Speaker 3: pieces in the midfields. I'm interested to see what Pochettino does.
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  Speaker 3: Does he feature Christian rood On in the midfield as
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  Speaker 3: more of a box to box and put Weston McKinney.
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  Speaker 2: Out wide, who had played for Juventus in wide areas before.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not sure, just yet.
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  Speaker 3: I think it will have an impact, But the bigger
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  Speaker 3: storyline will be if Australia doesn't get a result against
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  Speaker 3: the US. If the US does pull this victory out,
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  Speaker 3: which they should on paper, I think it will speak
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  Speaker 3: volumes to the team and saying, Okay, this is actually
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  Speaker 3: a team. If we lose our star player, we can
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  Speaker 3: still get a result in a big game here in Seattle,
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  Speaker 3: which is going to be an insane crowd.
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  Speaker 2: That will be the bigger storyline. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the US has said it's a long tournament until
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  Speaker 1: it isn't you know, so, so yeah, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be interesting to see if he's going to lace him
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  Speaker 1: up here tomorrow. All right, tell us about Australia. What
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  Speaker 1: kind of an opponent is this for the US tomorrow?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Completely different than Paraguay. And that's what we love about
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup. You get an opportunity to play teams
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  Speaker 3: that you normally don't, Right. The US qualification group is
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  Speaker 3: typically Central America, Caribbean and obviously Mexico and Canada, so
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  Speaker 3: very similar styles of play in those teams. And that's
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  Speaker 3: why I think we did so well against Paraguay. We're
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  Speaker 3: kind of used to playing against that Central American we
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  Speaker 3: call it tiki taka soccer. A lot of possession base,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of skill based. But this Australian team is
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  Speaker 3: really built much like the US is and I think
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  Speaker 3: that's going to provide a pretty stern challenge. They're physical,
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  Speaker 3: they're fast, they are brutish, and they are on a
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  Speaker 3: mission to prove something. And you saw it in their
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  Speaker 3: home opener up in Vancouver, a sea of yellow. The
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  Speaker 3: Australian fans are gonna They're going to show up and
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  Speaker 3: show out.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The one question they asked was are you going to
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  Speaker 3: have enough beer for us to drink here in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: That's a real question that they asked because they are
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  Speaker 3: much like Scotland and the UK. They've got that in
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  Speaker 3: their blood and they support their teams with a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of juice to help them and they're going to
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  Speaker 3: bring But they're such great people, right and I think
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  Speaker 3: they're The challenges they're going to provide are.
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  Speaker 2: Defensively, they're big and strong.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of them play obviously in bigger teams in
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  Speaker 3: Europe and especially England in the Championship, but up top
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  Speaker 3: they have some serious speed and the US back line, yes, athletic.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's going to provide the US some challenges.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be a noon game, it'll be warm her and
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  Speaker 3: not too hot, but the Australians know how to play
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  Speaker 3: in the heat. They're going to rise to the challenge
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  Speaker 3: and it's going to be a fantastic game. Look, I
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  Speaker 3: got to play in a World Cup qualifier here against
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  Speaker 3: Panama about ten years ago and I've never experienced an
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  Speaker 3: atmosphere like that. The whole stadium in red, white and blue,
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  Speaker 3: and I expect the USA fans to show up and
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  Speaker 3: show out, but there will be mass amount of Australian
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  Speaker 3: fans that are going to spur their team on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean Brad Evans professional soccer player. One of
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  Speaker 1: the great things about being a professional soccer player at
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  Speaker 1: your level, the level that you reached, is that you
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  Speaker 1: got to do a lot of international traveling. So since
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  Speaker 1: you brought up the subject if this was the Beer Cup,
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  Speaker 1: who would be the who would be the country to beat?
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  Speaker 1: Who would be your number one seed in terms of
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  Speaker 1: beer consumption in the entire world?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Scottish, I mean they already I think Boston
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  Speaker 3: ran out of beer when Scotland played there, so no
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  Speaker 3: one expects these. It's just a different culture, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and it does matter. And I think Peter tomas Alla
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  Speaker 3: kind of said the word. They asked us, well, does
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  Speaker 3: it have to be fosters everywhere?
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  Speaker 2: Do we need to like? And they're like, no, beer
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  Speaker 2: is beer, we don't care.
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  Speaker 3: And I love that about the Australians. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: They're not picky, they're not cheesy. But the Germans are
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  Speaker 3: very picky.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we know that.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean the Scottish it doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 3: it's warm or cold. They completely ran that city dry.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, I've put together a full ranking system
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  Speaker 1: for it. Then, all right, so every team's played a match.
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  Speaker 1: Now have you adjusted any of your long term forecasts
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  Speaker 1: for this tournament? Did somebody look so good that you've
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  Speaker 1: now had to consider them as a contender? Maybe even
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  Speaker 1: the US? And you know, team like Spain that ends
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  Speaker 1: up in a tie with Cape Verde, have you lowered
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  Speaker 1: your expectations for them or someone else?
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  Speaker 3: I think the first round it's really tough to kind
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  Speaker 3: of gauge where a team is at.
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  Speaker 2: With the opening game in.
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  Speaker 3: A World Cup, everyone is playing at level A thousand
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  Speaker 3: like it's their last game they'll ever play. Kate Verde's thinking,
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  Speaker 3: if I put maximum effort into this game, play like
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  Speaker 3: I never have before, we have the potential to get
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  Speaker 3: a point, our first point in a World Cup ever,
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  Speaker 3: and they did that. I don't think a team like
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  Speaker 3: that can carry that on through the tournament. And like
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  Speaker 3: you said, Spain on the flip side, they're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of adjustments to make the more attacking. Spain
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  Speaker 3: is a team that likes to keep the ball eighty
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  Speaker 3: five percent possession. You have to do in soccer is
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  Speaker 3: the ball ultimately has to go wide and you got
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  Speaker 3: to swing in a ball so that you unorganize and
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  Speaker 3: opposing his defense, and Spain didn't do that. They'll do
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  Speaker 3: that in the second, third game, and as they push
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  Speaker 3: on into this tournament, they have the ability to make
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  Speaker 3: those adjustments.
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  Speaker 2: Kate Verdet will play the way that they play.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see them advancing out of the group what possibly.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why the first round is a little bit
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  Speaker 3: iffy for me. In the first game. I think the
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  Speaker 3: true test of these teams will be now in the
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  Speaker 3: second and third game as they get that stress and
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  Speaker 3: that high off of the first game and.
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  Speaker 2: See if they can replicate it. Most teams can't. The
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  Speaker 2: US has the.
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  Speaker 3: Opportunity to, potentially, if they win this game, finish first
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  Speaker 3: in the group, and that's huge when you talk about
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  Speaker 3: seeding for the next rounds. That will set them up
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  Speaker 3: for success as we move on in this tournament. But
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  Speaker 3: you have to get the job done on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Brad Evans, So yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think anybody's really jumped out.
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  Speaker 3: I think the biggest storyline for me so far has
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  Speaker 3: been Messi and his ability to step up on the
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  Speaker 3: biggest occasion and lead his team in what could have
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  Speaker 3: been a trap game, much like a couple other big
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  Speaker 3: top five, top seven teams in the world got into.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you about Messi and look, Brad Evans,
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  Speaker 1: longtime player, soccer expert genius, where I pretty ignorant, pretty
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  Speaker 1: ignorant when it comes to the sport. And so we
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  Speaker 1: were having Ashley and I this conversation the other day,
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  Speaker 1: and I have a feeling I'm not the only one
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  Speaker 1: that wonders about this, So you can spell it out
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  Speaker 1: for us. I see Messi dominate a game like that,
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  Speaker 1: get a hat trick score all three of the goals.
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  Speaker 1: We already knew going in he is the best player
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  Speaker 1: in the world, arguably maybe the greatest player of all time.
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  Speaker 1: And so I wondered aloud on the air, and neither
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  Speaker 1: one of us has an answer for it. You would
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  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you just like triple team that guy? Why
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  Speaker 1: would you ever allow him to get loose if he
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  Speaker 1: can take over a game individually like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a big pitch, there are a lot of human
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  Speaker 1: beings out on that field. So why isn't the strategy
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  Speaker 1: just to make sure he doesn't beat you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty simple. You see it with Inner Miami
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  Speaker 3: or any other team that he's ever played on. It's
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  Speaker 3: not just about the goals. It's about his passing ability
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  Speaker 3: as well. So you've got twenty two players on a field,
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  Speaker 3: right minus the goalkeepers as twenty field players. If you
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  Speaker 3: take two away or three away just to Mark Messi,
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  Speaker 3: you're still talking about world class players on the field
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  Speaker 3: for Argentina that can produce anything at any moment in
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  Speaker 3: the game. Well, if you're talking about a competitive advantage
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  Speaker 3: and you take three or two and put them on Messi,
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  Speaker 3: you're down two guys on the field. You would really
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  Speaker 3: think you would want a one on one defender with
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  Speaker 3: Messi at all times keeping an eye on him. But
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  Speaker 3: as soon as you take another player away from the defense,
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  Speaker 3: and then another player away from the defense and just
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  Speaker 3: try to almost box him in. It's kind of like
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  Speaker 3: when Golden State was so good they could literally just
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  Speaker 3: pass the ball around and they had unbelievable shooters that
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  Speaker 3: were hot at all times. So yeah, you double team
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  Speaker 3: steph Curree, don't let him shoot a three, but then
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  Speaker 3: it goes to Klay Thompson and he drains at three.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty similar in soccer. As soon as you start
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  Speaker 3: to think you can double team a player, it just
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  Speaker 3: doesn't work out in the game. And that's why you've
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  Speaker 3: seen Argentina, you know, win the last World Cup. You've
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  Speaker 3: seen Inner Miami, you know, win an MLS Cup. Here
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  Speaker 3: Barcelona do it all the time. And I asked myself
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  Speaker 3: the same question. Messi pops up on the top of
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  Speaker 3: the box freet It's like, how do you let this happen?
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  Speaker 3: Or even England yesterday you got Harry Kane, the world's
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  Speaker 3: best striker.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, cornerkick.
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  Speaker 3: Comes in and he's completely free and unmarked, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know the psyche of some of these teams. It
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  Speaker 3: was my team and Chad Marshall was six ft four,
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  Speaker 3: two hundred pounds. I'm always having him mark the best
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  Speaker 3: player offensively on the field. I don't care if you
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  Speaker 3: foul him on a corner kick. I don't care what
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  Speaker 3: it is, but you have to take that player out
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  Speaker 3: of the game. With a guy like MESSI is soccer,
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  Speaker 3: IQ is just his role. He's able to go free
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  Speaker 3: anywhere on the field. He's not really beholden to a structure.
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  Speaker 3: That's what makes it really, really difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I love that England's best player is Harry Kane. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they literally are just naming their athletes there after
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  Speaker 1: Guy Ritchie characters. He sounds like a Guy Richie character,
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  Speaker 1: typical England. Yeah, exactly. All right, man, great breakdown. We
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it and sounds like you're having a blast with
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  Speaker 1: us this, so we're gonna bug you again real soon.
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  Speaker 2: All right, yep, problems thanks you having all right.
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  Speaker 1: Brad Evans joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 1: in the morning part of our coverage World Cup coverage
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  Speaker 1: that you're hearing right here at Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJR FM. And yeah, that's that's what I
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  Speaker 1: need to hear. I need to hear that Brad Evans
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  Speaker 1: breaking it down. That's simply for us here, for us
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  Speaker 5: Probably not.
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  Speaker 1: At least in his vicinity and then you zone up
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: recap yesterday. Mike Sando was our guest our analyst to
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  Speaker 1: break down one key Seahawk player we talked about Cooper Cup,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and when you talk about Cooper Cup, you can't help
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: but talk about JSN. And jsn's just coming off an
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  Speaker 1: all world like historic type season this past year, and
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  Speaker 1: so again double teams, triple teams. You do wonder what
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  Speaker 1: trying to control JSN. But we also have an NFL
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  Speaker 1: history success that suggests that when you have a really
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  Speaker 1: special wide receiver, it doesn't matter. He's still going to
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  Speaker 1: get his catches, still going to get his touches, and
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  Speaker 1: And so Cooper Cup, you wonder how many more catches
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  Speaker 1: he's going to get based on how teams plan to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: defend JSN. And I asked Mike Sando about whether or
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  Speaker 1: not he expects JSN to have the same success or
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: if teams will scheme to try and take that away
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  Speaker 1: from him.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, everyone knew, you know, how good he was
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  Speaker 6: last year, and there wasn't a real great plan to
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  Speaker 6: stop him. I think he's a very difficult matchup for
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: people because he's such a good all round player at
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: the position and he's not reliant on any one thing.
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  Speaker 6: But I think he's a great technician. I think he
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  Speaker 6: has better speed than you know that he's probably given
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  Speaker 6: credit for. He's got the incredibly late hands, you know,
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  Speaker 6: where you kind of trick the defensive back into the
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  Speaker 6: balls even arriving as long as he has late hand,
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  Speaker 6: one hand goes out and you can still do that.
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  Speaker 6: And then I think in today's game, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: offenses do a very good job of moving people around
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  Speaker 6: and getting matchups. You're you're not going to shut down Jasam.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree, And I don't know why that is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's a messy thing. Maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: no matter what you do, Jerry Rice was going to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: get his catches, Jamar Chase is going to get his catches.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the defense knows they're trying to get the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: ball to Jamar Chase. I think there are just some
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: special wide receivers that can't be taken away, and fortunately
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  Speaker 1: we have one of those guys. And so my guess,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, even last year when we were having converse
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  Speaker 1: sations about we need to spread the ball around a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more. We can't just be focused on JSN
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  Speaker 1: and Sam Donald was.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Like, no, No, I like it this way.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, the answer is no, I'm throwing it to eleven.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Whenever I get the opportunity, I'll say this. I mean
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  Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, in my opinion, is either near the wall
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: or at the wall. And what he brings to this
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: team has a lot more to do with the intangibles
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: than anything else. But he can still catch the ball,
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  Speaker 1: win thrown two and he knows how to separate just
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: by pure knowledge of how to play the position. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's crafty and I love having him on this football team.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I mean number one, I love having JSN.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing to love because you have one of
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  Speaker 1: those not just wr ones, You've got like historic Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame type wide receiver, and then everything else can
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  Speaker 1: play off of him. I think we're going to see
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  Speaker 1: more from AJ Barner this year. I think we're going
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  Speaker 1: to see more double tight end year. I think you're
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  Speaker 1: going to see more Robbie oots this year if he
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  Speaker 1: can stay healthy. They would have used them more last season.
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  Speaker 1: But what I really like about this receiving core, even
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  Speaker 1: if Cooper Cup catches fewer balls and Rashidsha he doesn't
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: take the step forward that's worthy of seventeen million dollars
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  Speaker 1: per year in addition to his return skills. I really
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: like the balance of the group that John's assembled. And
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  Speaker 1: to have the crafty Cooper Cup and then to have
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the speed demon Rashid Shahed, who even if he doesn't
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: catch the pass, you better respect him otherwise he's going
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: over the top. For six, to have Bobo who might
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  Speaker 1: be the slowest receiver in the National Football League and
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  Speaker 1: down and especially in tight spots and especially in the
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  Speaker 1: end zone. And then Tory Horton, who also has a
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  Speaker 1: nose for the end zone. I mean, it's just a
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  Speaker 1: nice array. I mean it's just a They're all so
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  Speaker 1: different from one another, and I think you want that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in your receiving corps. Have the one superstar and then
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  Speaker 1: just have a bunch of unselfish I can perform that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: specific role for you. Going to go back to Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: That's what the Bulls turned into. It was one superstar,
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  Speaker 1: and even Scottie Pippen was a bit of a role player.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the greatest role player ever, but he was a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a role player off of Jordan, and then
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  Speaker 1: everybody else just had like a unique skill. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: they won six championships off of that template.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and it's I mean you're making the other teams
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  Speaker 4: have to game plan for all of those specific people
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  Speaker 4: and their specific I mean, you've got so many options. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: you've got your big superstar, you've got the person everybody's
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  Speaker 5: Planning, right, is to stop JSN.
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  Speaker 4: But you've got so many other options and things that
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  Speaker 4: you're forcing teams to work for in order to play you,
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  Speaker 4: in order to match up well with you. That it's
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  Speaker 4: just I mean, they're just so smart and the way
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  Speaker 4: they put this team together.
• 27:00
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  Speaker 4: Isn't the World Cup just like the Olympics and WBC two?
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  Speaker 4: Aren't they taking away the Olympic charm?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I get it. They're saying, like, is having.
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  Speaker 4: The World Cup and the Olympics taking away from the
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think every sport is obviously doing their own
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  Speaker 1: Japanese best baseball players once upon a time, or if
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  Speaker 1: you did, it was some random exhibition somewhere. But now
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  Speaker 1: head to head, yeah, I think that. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, also, I feel like the Olympic charm.
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  Speaker 4: The Olympics have lost their own charm. It has nothing
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  Speaker 1: More of them are. But yeah, there's no accounting for
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  Speaker 4: I don't know to explain, No rhyme or reason. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we did get some clarification, by the way, on our
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  Speaker 4: soccer question there with the Olympics. Olympic soccer is either
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  Speaker 4: you twenty one or you twenty three. We've got two
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  Speaker 4: different answers. But you have a different player pool than
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  Speaker 4: World Cups, so it's a different team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't watch a lot of soccer, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't really watch a lot of the Olympics.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, uh step Chuck. This is Jeremy asking you. Did
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  Speaker 4: you ever go to T Bone Steakhouse?
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  Speaker 1: T Bone Steakhouse.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you where it is or what.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but that is ringing a bell. Did he
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  Speaker 1: give me that advice? At one point told me to
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  Speaker 1: go there?
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  Speaker 4: Oh maybe I wonder where, Jeremy, you got a Texas
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  Speaker 4: back and it seems.
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  Speaker 1: Like somebody to give me the advice to do that. No,
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  Speaker 1: I have not done that yet.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and thank you to the two five to three
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  Speaker 4: who says they like my new glasses.
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  Speaker 1: Oh good, I do too, By the way, I think
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  Speaker 1: they look really sharp. I appreciate it. All right. Coming
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  Speaker 1: back on the other side, we got a little World
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  Speaker 1: Cup up for you. We got a US Open update,
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  Speaker 1: we got to get to at nine twenty, and of
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  Speaker 1: course we've got some Mariners things to discuss, not just
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  Speaker 1: Julio and his availability, but also the big ee Bank
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