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Dismantling Florida's App Based Parking System · Financial Survival Network

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  Speaker 2: So picture this. You pull up to a parking spot
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  Speaker 2: in a super busy downtown area, right you step out
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  Speaker 2: of your car, and you know you're fully expecting to
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  Speaker 2: see a standard parking meter like where you can just
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  Speaker 2: drop in a few quarters or maybe swipe.
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  Speaker 3: A card, which is how it always used to be.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, But instead the sidewalk is just completely bare, well
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  Speaker 2: except for this metal sign strapped to a pole, and
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  Speaker 2: it's got this giant QR code, some corporate tech logo,
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  Speaker 2: and it's basically demanding that you download their specific app
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  Speaker 2: just to leave your car there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're just left standing there on the curb
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  Speaker 3: right squinting in the sun, trying to download this heavy
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  Speaker 3: software application over a totally spotty cellular connection. Oh it's
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  Speaker 3: the worst. And you're handing over your credit card details,
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  Speaker 3: your real time location data, all under the thread of
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  Speaker 3: like a forty dollars parking ticket. I mean, it's really
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  Speaker 3: become this virtually unavoidable part of modern driving.
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  Speaker 2: It really has. But today we are doing a deep
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  Speaker 2: dive into how one citizen is actively dismantling that exact system.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: And the crazy part is he isn't organizing a protest,
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  Speaker 2: he isn't hiring some massive law firm to file a
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  Speaker 2: huge class action lawsuit. We are basically looking at a
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  Speaker 2: masterclass in administrative strategy or civic judo.
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  Speaker 3: I guess you could call it civic judo. I like
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  Speaker 3: that obout.
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  Speaker 2: He is using the state's own procedural manuals and financial
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  Speaker 2: laws to trap the government into doing his work for him.
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  Speaker 3: He really is. And we have a pretty thick stack
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  Speaker 3: of highly specific legal material to get through today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.
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  Speaker 3: The foundation of all of this is the Florida Administrative
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  Speaker 3: Procedure Act, specifically Chapter one twenty, and we're looking at
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  Speaker 3: that alongside a recent constitutional shift in Florida regarding how
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  Speaker 3: judges review agency decisions.
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  Speaker 2: Which is huge, it is, And we are.
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  Speaker 3: Applying those legal frameworks to five actual filed petitions from
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  Speaker 3: a Florida citizen named Carrie LUTs. He filed these against
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  Speaker 3: the Florida Department of Transportation, the DOT, and the state's
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  Speaker 3: chief financial officer.
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  Speaker 2: So our mission today is to decode this legal trap
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  Speaker 2: that Lutz has constructed, because he is attempting to force
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  Speaker 2: these state agencies to either completely overhaul this app based
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  Speaker 2: parking system statewide or legally admit that every single one
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  Speaker 2: of those parking signs is an illegal public nuisance.
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  Speaker 3: Which is a brilliant ultimatum.
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  Speaker 2: It really is. But hey, real quick, before we get
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  Speaker 2: into the actual mechanics of how he is doing this,
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  Speaker 2: there is some politically charged language in his filings. Yeah, like,
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  Speaker 2: for instance, he praises the state's chief financial o officer
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  Speaker 2: for quote draining the swamp.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I just want to clarify for everyone listening, our
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  Speaker 2: goal here is not to evaluate his politics, nor are we,
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  Speaker 2: you know, taking the side of the municipal governments or
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  Speaker 2: the corporate vendors.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: We are solely analyzing the structural machinery of his legal argument.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, the machinery is what makes this so compelling.
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  Speaker 3: And to understand the trap, we first have to look
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  Speaker 3: at the bait right, the vulnerability that's found in the
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  Speaker 3: physical parking signs themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's unpack this. What exactly is the legal flaw here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he analyzed Florida's traffic laws, specifically the statutes that
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  Speaker 3: govern traffic control devices, which is f S three sixteen. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: for any street signed to be legally enforceable in Florida,
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  Speaker 3: it absolutely must comply with this massive federal document called
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  Speaker 3: the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices or the MUTCD.
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  Speaker 3: The MUTCD, got it, Yeah, the state adopted this manual
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  Speaker 3: as its absolute, non negotiable legal standard for all public
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  Speaker 3: road right.
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  Speaker 2: And that manual is not just like a set of
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  Speaker 2: gentle suggestions, No, not at all. I mean it dictates everything,
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  Speaker 2: the exact retroflective materials, the specific fonts, the precise colors,
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  Speaker 2: the formatting you have to use.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, because the logic behind the manual is all about
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  Speaker 3: safety and clarity. A driver needs to understand a signs
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  Speaker 3: instructions instantaneously, right while they're moving at thirty miles.
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  Speaker 2: An hour, which makes sense. So how do the parking
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  Speaker 2: apps mess that up?
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's includes all this photographic evidence in his petitions,
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  Speaker 3: and it shows that these app based parking signs totally
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  Speaker 3: fail those fundamental standards. They lack basic regulatory text.
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  Speaker 2: Wait really, lick what like?
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  Speaker 3: There are no parking rates listed on the physical face
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  Speaker 3: of the sign, There are no hours of enforcement. They
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  Speaker 3: simply direct the driver to a digital intermediary, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a QR code or a customer service phone number.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so the physical sign itself fails to actually
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  Speaker 2: convey the law. You essentially have to leave the physical
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  Speaker 2: roadway environment, pull out a piece of private consumer technology
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  Speaker 2: and connect to the internet just to discover what the
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  Speaker 2: local parking rules actually.
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  Speaker 3: Are exactly, And the issue completely compounds when you look
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  Speaker 3: at the corporate logos.
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  Speaker 2: Oh the logs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, these signs prominently feature branding for companies like park
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  Speaker 3: mobile or pay by Phone, and even badges for the
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  Speaker 3: Apple app store. Right, and Florida traffic laws strictly and
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  Speaker 3: expressly prohibits placing commercial advertising on a traffic control device.
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  Speaker 2: So wait, I am just trying to understand how this
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  Speaker 2: happened in the first place. Did municipal governments just like
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  Speaker 2: outsource their parking tech to private vendors and nobody bothered
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  Speaker 2: to cross reference the dense federal Highway manual.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, that's exactly what it looks like. They bought an
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  Speaker 3: off the shelf software solution and just let the vendors
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  Speaker 3: slap their corporate sticker on a public poll.
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  Speaker 2: It's like accidentally voiding your car warranty by installing a
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  Speaker 2: cheap aftermarket radio. They outsourced the parking but accidentally voided
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  Speaker 2: their own police power to issue tickets.
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  Speaker 3: That is a great way to put it, because it
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  Speaker 3: appears to be this massive administrative oversight on a statewide scale,
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  Speaker 3: but the intent behind the oversight is completely irrelevant under
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  Speaker 3: the law.
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  Speaker 2: Because the consequences are what matters.
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  Speaker 3: Right. The legal consequences are severe because these signs contain
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  Speaker 3: commercial advertising and fail the federal formatting standards, they are
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  Speaker 3: not legally considered official science. By statute, they are actually
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  Speaker 3: classified as public newsancesessence says wow yeah, and as public
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  Speaker 3: nuisances they are subject to immediate removal without notice.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this brings up that bouncer metaphor I was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Think of a city's power to issue you a parking
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  Speaker 2: ticket like a nightclub's power to throw you out. A
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  Speaker 2: city has the legal authority, the police power to enforce
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  Speaker 2: rules But if a nightclub hires some random guy off
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  Speaker 2: the street who isn't wearing the official security uniform and
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  Speaker 2: he starts demanding money from patrons just to stay inside,
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  Speaker 2: that isn't security. No, that's extortion, exactly extortion. So by
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  Speaker 2: outsourcing the signs and a failing to meet the uniform standard,
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  Speaker 2: the city has essentially hired an unofficial bouncer. Under Florida's
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  Speaker 2: traffic laws, if an official device is not in the
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  Speaker 2: proper position and legible, it just cannot be enforced.
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  Speaker 3: Meaning the parking tickets are voiced.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, the tickets are legally void.
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  Speaker 3: And let's take this local municipal failure and he brilliantly
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  Speaker 3: escalates it to the state level.
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  Speaker 2: How does he do that?
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  Speaker 3: He uses a memo from the Florida Department of Transportation
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  Speaker 3: itself EM twenty five zero one, And this memo explicitly
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  Speaker 3: states that non compliant traffic control devices are safety hazards.
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  Speaker 2: Ah man using their own memos against them.
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  Speaker 3: Right, And he connects that state level memo to federal
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  Speaker 3: highway law under Title twenty three of the US Code.
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  Speaker 3: If Florida have a systemic, documented issue with non compliant
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  Speaker 3: street signs, all over the state, they actually risk losing
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  Speaker 3: their federal highway funding.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so he elevates a forty dollars parking ticket
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  Speaker 2: into a multimillion dollar federal compliance crisis for the state. Dot.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, that massive threat to federal funding is the leverage.
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  Speaker 3: It explains why the Department of Transportation APPS has to
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  Speaker 3: care about the physical science.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But wait, taking down the physical signs doesn't actually
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  Speaker 2: stop the financial model of the apps, right. The vendors
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  Speaker 2: would just, I don't know, find another way to direct
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  Speaker 2: people to their software.
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  Speaker 3: That is exactly the problem, and that is why Lutz
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  Speaker 3: couldn't just top at the DOT. He had to target
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  Speaker 3: the financial engine itself. Okay, which brings us to the
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  Speaker 3: five petitions he filed with Florida's Chief Financial Officer.
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  Speaker 2: Under Florida Statute two fifteen, right, the laws governing state funds.
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  Speaker 3: Yes FS two to fifteen. He aims directly at the
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  Speaker 3: vendor revenue models, and his first major angle here is transparency.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, walk me through that well.
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  Speaker 3: He highlights a specific vendor proposal in Delray Beach to
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  Speaker 3: demonstrate the cash flow. He shows that if a citizen
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  Speaker 3: pays a thirty nine dollars and ninety nine cent parking
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  Speaker 3: citation through the app. The vendor's own revenue split shows
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  Speaker 3: that nine dollars and ninety nine of that goes directly
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  Speaker 3: to the vendor as a tech fee. Wait. Wait, nine
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  Speaker 3: dollars ninety nine that's like twenty five percent of the
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  Speaker 3: total fine, exactly twenty five percent, and that money never
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  Speaker 3: even hits the public treasury. It is siphoned right off
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  Speaker 3: the top before the city ever sees a single dime.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, let's argues this entirely bypasses the chief financial
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  Speaker 3: officers oversight. He says it is functioning as an invisible,
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  Speaker 3: unauthorized tax.
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  Speaker 2: That is incredibly clever, because he's drafting a rule demanding
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  Speaker 2: that all vendor compensation must be a flat, highly visible
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  Speaker 2: administrative cost, like no private entity should be allowed to
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  Speaker 2: keep a percentage of a municipal find completely off the books.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and then he targets the convenience fees themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Actually I want to push back on his logic
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  Speaker 2: a little bit here, because I mean, if I use
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  Speaker 2: an ATM that doesn't belong to my bank, I pay
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  Speaker 2: a two or three dollars convenience fee, and we generally
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  Speaker 2: accept that as a society.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: So why is let's arguing that an app charging a
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  Speaker 2: flat fee to part is somehow predatory or legally unauthorized.
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  Speaker 3: It's a fair question. Yeah. The legal distinction here lies
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  Speaker 3: in the actual cost of the transaction versus profit generation. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: when you swipe a credit card, the processing network you know,
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  Speaker 3: Visa or MasterCard, they charge an interchange rate. It's usually
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  Speaker 3: this tiny percentage, maybe two or three percent of.
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  Speaker 2: The transaction, right, just a few cents, usually exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Let's's petition demands that municipal convenience fees be strictly capped
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  Speaker 3: at that exact interchange rate, because right now the app
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  Speaker 3: vendors are taking that two percent actual cost, and then
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  Speaker 3: they're tacking on arbitrary dollar amounts on top of it,
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  Speaker 3: simply for the convenience of using their software. I see.
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  Speaker 3: Let's argue that municipalities cannot authorize private companies to turn
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  Speaker 3: the basic collection of public parking fees into a lucrative,
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  Speaker 3: separate profit center. It's supposed to be a public service,
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  Speaker 3: not a business venture.
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  Speaker 2: That makes total sense. And he connects that profit motive
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  Speaker 2: to how the tickets are actually handed out.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't he He does because these private tech companies are
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  Speaker 3: often the ones providing the actual personnel, the people walking
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  Speaker 3: around scanning license plates and issuing the citations, which.
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  Speaker 2: He categorizes as privatized bounty hunting.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. Think about it. When a private vendor's read do
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  Speaker 3: is tied to the volume of tickets issued or processed
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  Speaker 3: through their system, it completely monetizes the state's police power
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  Speaker 3: for private profit, right.
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  Speaker 2: Because the incentive is no longer about public order or
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  Speaker 2: managing curb space. The incentive is just generating as many
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  Speaker 2: citations as physically possible.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so he petitions the CFO to ban per ticket
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  Speaker 3: compensation models for private vendors entirely. He's demanding that only
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  Speaker 3: actual W two employees of the local government execute these citations.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, so these financial rules are incredibly thorough. But
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  Speaker 2: the angle that really shifted my perspective on this whole
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  Speaker 2: thing is how this system interacts with minors. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, this is such a brilliant angle, right.
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  Speaker 2: Just consider the physical act of perking a car. Like
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  Speaker 2: ten years ago, a sixteen year old with a brand
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  Speaker 2: new driver's license pulls into a spot, drops a quarter
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  Speaker 2: into a mechanical meter and just walks away.
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  Speaker 3: It was an entirely anonymous transaction, exactly anonymous.
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  Speaker 2: But today that same sixteen year old pulls into the
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  Speaker 2: spot and is forced to interact with the digital intermediary.
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  Speaker 3: We were just talking about, right, the app.
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  Speaker 2: The only way to legally park the vehicle is to
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  Speaker 2: download an application and click I agree to this massive
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  Speaker 2: terms of service document.
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  Speaker 3: Right, And in doing so, they are forced to sign
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  Speaker 3: a binding digital contract that allows for extensive data mining.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: The app is collecting their real time location data, their
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  Speaker 3: vehicle information, their financial details.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the kicker. In Florida, a miner cannot legally
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  Speaker 2: be bound by most contracts without parental consent exactly, and
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  Speaker 2: Lutz points out that these parking apps are rated four
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  Speaker 2: plus or everyone on the major app stores, So the
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  Speaker 2: municipalities are effectively mandating that sixteen and seventeen year olds
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  Speaker 2: enter into these binding, data extractive financial contracts just to
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  Speaker 2: park on a public.
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  Speaker 3: Street completely bypassing parental consent.
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  Speaker 2: Loss completely yea, And so he formally petitions the state
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  Speaker 2: to mandate that these apps implement a verifiable parental consent
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  Speaker 2: mechanism before a miner's data can be harvested by the vendor.
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  Speaker 3: It's really comprehensive. He isn't just complaining about the system.
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  Speaker 3: He is systematically trying to dismantle the revenue supply. He's
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  Speaker 3: exposing the vendor fees as unauthorized taxes, highlighting the conflict
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  Speaker 3: of interest in private enforcement, and revealing the unauthorized data
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  Speaker 3: mining of miners. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, drafting these brilliant legal arguments only matters
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  Speaker 2: if someone actually reads them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a citizen could mail the most airtight legal
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  Speaker 2: argument in the world to a state capital and it
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  Speaker 2: would likely just gather dust in a filing cabinet somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Historically, Yes, that's exactly what would happen. And that brings
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  Speaker 3: us to the procedural weapon Lutz is using here, the
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  Speaker 3: Florida Administrative Procedure Act, found in Chapter one twenty of
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  Speaker 3: the State Statues.
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  Speaker 2: Chapter one twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the mechanism that forces the government to
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  Speaker 3: actually acknowledge and respond to his arguments. Chapter one twenty
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  Speaker 3: is essentially the engine of Florida's administrative state, and it
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  Speaker 3: gives citizens an extraordinary amount of leverage.
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  Speaker 2: Leverage. I love that because here's where it gets really
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  Speaker 2: interesting For the Department of Transportation, he filed a declaratory's
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  Speaker 2: statement petition right right, And under the law, when a
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  Speaker 2: citizen files the specific type of petition, the agency is
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  Speaker 2: legally barred from ignoring it.
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  Speaker 3: They cannot ignore it.
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  Speaker 2: They are placed on a strict ninety day shot clock.
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  Speaker 2: They have exactly ninety days to either issue a final
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  Speaker 2: order answering his legal question or formally deny his petition.
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  Speaker 3: And the law is even stricter regarding the petitions he
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  Speaker 3: filed with the Chief Financial Officer. Those are rulemaking petitions,
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  Speaker 3: oh right. For those, the agency has exactly thirty days
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  Speaker 3: to either initiate the rule making process he suggested, or
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  Speaker 3: publish a formal public explanation detailing exactly why they are
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  Speaker 3: denying it.
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  Speaker 2: It's literally like a chess clock. He makes his move,
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  Speaker 2: hits the timer, and the state agency is legally forced
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  Speaker 2: to respond before time runs out.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, And to understand why a single citizen has the
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  Speaker 3: power to force a massive state bureaucracy onto a stopwatch
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  Speaker 3: like that, you really have to look at the historical
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  Speaker 3: context of Chapter one twenty.
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  Speaker 2: The nineteen seventy four revisions, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Prior to nineteen seventy four, Florida struggled with what lawmakers
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  Speaker 3: openly referred to as a phantom government.
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  Speaker 2: A phantom government that sounds so.
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  Speaker 3: Sketchy, it really was. You have these unelected bureaucrats effectively
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  Speaker 3: running state agencies through unwritten memos just hidden in their
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  Speaker 3: desk draws.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so a citizen could be fined or penalized, or
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  Speaker 2: even have their business shut down for violating a rule
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  Speaker 2: that was never even officially published anywhere exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It was a nightmare. So the nineteen seventy four revisions
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  Speaker 3: to the Administrative Procedure Act were designed to completely dismantle
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  Speaker 3: that phantom government.
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  Speaker 2: Get everything out in the open, right.
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  Speaker 3: The core philosophy was to force agencies to operate in
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  Speaker 3: the sunlight. If an agency was going to enforce a rule,
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  Speaker 3: they had to publish it, they had to defend it,
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  Speaker 3: and most importantly, allow citizens to demand official, on the
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  Speaker 3: record interpretations of how those laws were being applied.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so the shot clock forces the DOT and the
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  Speaker 2: CFO to respond, But my immediate thought is, like, what
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  Speaker 2: stops the agency from just issuing a highly creative, completely
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  Speaker 2: biased response. Well, do you mean, like the DOT could
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  Speaker 2: just wait eighty nine days and then publish a final
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  Speaker 2: order saying, hey, we reviewed the manuals and we decided
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  Speaker 2: corporate logos on parking signs are perfectly fine. Petition denied.
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  Speaker 3: Well, historically, that is exactly what would have happened, right,
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  Speaker 3: and that specific scenario brings us to the ultimate trap
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  Speaker 3: lets his set, which relies on a recent massive shift
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  Speaker 3: in Florida constitutional law. We have to look at the
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  Speaker 3: analysis of the Evans Rowing Club case an article v
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  Speaker 3: Section twenty one of the Florida Constitution.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's break this down for everyone. Because before
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  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, courts operated under this legal concept called deference, Yes, deference.
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  Speaker 2: If a citizens sued a state agency over how a
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  Speaker 2: rule was interpreted, the judge would heavily defer to the
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  Speaker 2: agency's own expertise.
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  Speaker 3: Because the agency wrote the rule exactactly.
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  Speaker 2: The agency wrote the rule, the agency enforced the rule,
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  Speaker 2: and the court usually let the agency interpret the rule.
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  Speaker 2: The government basically had this massive home field advantage, right.
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  Speaker 3: As long as the agency's interpretation wasn't you know, clearly
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  Speaker 3: egregiously wrong, the court just upheld it. Yeah, But in
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  Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, Florida passed a constitutional amendment that effectively eradicated
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  Speaker 3: the deference doctrine in the state completely wise it out totally.
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  Speaker 3: Under this new constitutional framework, courts and administrative law judges
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  Speaker 3: are expressly forbidden from deferring to an administrative agency's interpretation
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  Speaker 3: of a statute.
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  Speaker 2: Deference is dead. So if Lutz's petition is denied by
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  Speaker 2: the DOT, he immediately appeals the decision. Right, the case
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  Speaker 2: goes to an administrative law of judge, and because of
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  Speaker 2: this constitutional amendment, that judge must interpret the statute denva.
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  Speaker 3: Denovo, meaning entirely from scratch. I don't you right? The
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  Speaker 3: judge gives absolutely zero weight to what the Department of
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  Speaker 3: Transportation claims law means. The judge is legally require to
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  Speaker 3: look at the plain text of the law and make
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  Speaker 3: a completely independent determination. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So let's walk through exactly how this checkmate plays
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  Speaker 2: out for the listener, because it's brilliant, it really is.
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  Speaker 2: So Lutz files his petition, the shot clock starts ticking.
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  Speaker 2: If the DOT tries to protect the municipalities and issues
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  Speaker 2: in order, claiming these at based signs are perfectly legal,
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  Speaker 2: Lot's appeals, Yep, the administrative law judge completely ignores the
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  Speaker 2: dots excuse. The judge opens the massive federal highway manual,
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  Speaker 2: the judge opens Florida's traffic statutes. They look at the
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  Speaker 2: photographic evidence of the private corporate logos plastered all over
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  Speaker 2: the street signs, right, and.
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  Speaker 3: The plain text of the law states that commercial advertising
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  Speaker 3: on a traffic sign is illegal heuriod period.
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  Speaker 2: So the judge strikes down the dots ruling Denovo because
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  Speaker 2: the objective text is undeniably on Lutz's side exactly.
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  Speaker 3: The political reality for these state agencies is incredibly difficult
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: They're boxed in.
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  Speaker 3: They are because if they agree with let's and issue
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  Speaker 3: the declaratory statement, he is asking for the local municipalities
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  Speaker 3: instantly lose their parking revenue infrastructures.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the physical science have to come down.
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  Speaker 3: Immediately, right, and all those financial contracts have to be
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  Speaker 3: completely rewritten. But if they fight him, if the state
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  Speaker 3: agencies deny his petitions, they get dragged into a Denovo
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  Speaker 3: hearing where the plain text of the law virtually guarantees
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  Speaker 3: their defeat, and a public defeat in an administrative court
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  Speaker 3: creates an even larger embarrassment, not to.
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  Speaker 2: Mention it solidifies the risk to their federal highway file.
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  Speaker 3: And exactly he is using the momentum and the strictness
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  Speaker 3: of the state's own administrative laws to throw the state
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  Speaker 3: completely off balance.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing. He doesn't need to spend hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 2: of dollars on fancy constitutional lawyers to argue abstract rights.
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all. He is utilizing foundational statutes, traffic
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  Speaker 3: control laws, and public fund management laws that were written
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  Speaker 3: decades ago to protect the public right.
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  Speaker 2: They just haven't been aggressively applied to this new digital reality. Yet.
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  Speaker 3: He is forcing the bureaucracy to reckon with its own
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  Speaker 3: technological evolution, and he's doing it for the cost of
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  Speaker 3: a few certified letters.
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  Speaker 2: It really demonstrates that the machinery of government is remarkably
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  Speaker 2: accessible if you know, a citizen is actually willing to
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  Speaker 2: read the procedural manuals and understand the mechanisms of administrative law.
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  Speaker 3: It's a completely brilliant blueprint, it is.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we just spent this whole time exploring
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  Speaker 2: how Chapter one twenty and a Novo review can be
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  Speaker 2: weaponized to dismantle a physical system.
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  Speaker 3: Right metal parking signs on a street corner and the
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  Speaker 3: financial contracts tied to them.
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  Speaker 2: Consider the implications as government becomes increasingly automated. What happens
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: when everyday citizens realize they can use this exact same
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: administrative blueprint to challenge the invisible algorithms the state uses.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: That is a terrifying thought for state agencies.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: It really is what happens when this same shot clock
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and the end of deference are used to challenge things
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  Speaker 2: like automated IRS audits, or state run AI healthcare coverage denials,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: or even digital DMV surveillance systems. The blueprint is out there,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: it is the mechanism to force transparency is out there.
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  Speaker 2: The shot clock is real, and deference is dead. So
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the next time you see a corporate QR code on
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: a public street corner, you might not just see a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: local annoyance. You might be looking at the catalyst for
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: a much larger administrative reckoning.
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