Latest / The Breakfast Club / Jill Scott Interview
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast Yep, the world
- 0:08Speaker 1: was dangerous morning show the Breakfast Club. He turned it on.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Jill quietly like to talk to guests before the interview,
- 0:16Speaker 1: you know, I like to wait until the interviewed you
- 0:20Speaker 1: at all and yeah, fake looking at my phone until
- 0:24Speaker 1: the interview started. But we got Jill Scott here. What's
- 0:26Speaker 1: up y'all, Julie from Philly, good to see you. Yes,
- 0:29Speaker 1: it's great to have Jill Scott here. And I will
- 0:31Speaker 1: say Charlotte Magne went to go see you perform in Brooklyn.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I was surprised because we can't get him to go nowhere.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I've seen you perform at least fifteen times because I
- 0:40Speaker 1: used to I told you before. We used to go
- 0:42Speaker 1: to the Sugar Water Festival all the time when it
- 0:44Speaker 1: was you and Erica Badou and Flower Tree and Queen Latifa. Like,
- 0:49Speaker 1: I've seen you perform countless about the times, but not
- 0:52Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Let me tell you something. I had no
- 0:58Speaker 1: choice too. It was one of those things. My wife
- 0:59Speaker 1: was like, hey, Joe Scott, is matter of fact you
- 1:02Speaker 1: want to go to the concert in Jersey. But I
- 1:04Speaker 1: was busy. So it happened in Brooklyn's woman keV Holiday
- 1:06Speaker 1: made that happen for me, so we went that was monumental. Yes,
- 1:09Speaker 1: congratulations on the new album thank You. I like Cruising.
- 1:14Speaker 1: I think it's my favorite song on there. I also
- 1:16Speaker 1: like Food's Gold and I like um Closure And I
- 1:19Speaker 1: want to talk about closure for a second, Okay, because
- 1:22Speaker 1: I was having a conversation when one of my friends, right,
- 1:24Speaker 1: and that song is really about like having sex with
- 1:26Speaker 1: somebody for the last time for closure. You really think
- 1:28Speaker 1: that's a good idea, m I think it can work. Hey,
- 1:33Speaker 1: listen any Portland storms where I'm where I am with it.
- 1:37Speaker 1: If it could work, it's worked. But do you think
- 1:41Speaker 1: it's possible though, because it's like you do it that
- 1:42Speaker 1: one last time, you're like, man, I can't let this go.
- 1:44Speaker 1: And plus when you do it that last time, you're
- 1:45Speaker 1: trying to do it like the best you've ever done it,
- 1:47Speaker 1: so that he feels like, Okay, I don't want to
- 1:49Speaker 1: maybe maybe not for me. I've had that experience and
- 1:53Speaker 1: that last one was not the best one. I'm trying
- 1:59Speaker 1: too hard. But my feet were already on my way out,
- 2:03Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I knew this was it.
- 2:04Speaker 1: It's wrap it's the last time, and making a conscious
- 2:07Speaker 1: decision and then actually saying all right, I'm gonna give
- 2:10Speaker 1: my body this one more time. But making that conscious
- 2:13Speaker 1: decision and the second gas or regret or anything. What's
- 2:17Speaker 1: the point of that? Though? Like why not just why
- 2:19Speaker 1: can't a phone conversation just the end? Sometimes phone calls
- 2:22Speaker 1: work with some people, Sometimes they don't, you know what
- 2:26Speaker 1: I mean? Like I said, any port in a storm,
- 2:28Speaker 1: when you're trying to get away from something that's not
- 2:30Speaker 1: necessarily beneficial to you. If the conversation you had, that conversation, look,
- 2:36Speaker 1: we're not gonna do this anymore. You know, it was great,
- 2:39Speaker 1: but you know, I went more for my life and
- 2:42Speaker 1: then here you come again or smelling like that, you know,
- 2:47Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you change your mind
- 2:49Speaker 1: and next thing, you know, you're kind of right back
- 2:51Speaker 1: where you started. And then you got to go through
- 2:53Speaker 1: the whole thing again. When somebody has that that you know,
- 2:57Speaker 1: that thing, it's really challenging to to walk away from it.
- 3:01Speaker 1: But you know, that same thing that you used to
- 3:03Speaker 1: love when you was in love and now you know
- 3:04Speaker 1: you don't want to be with them anymore, is the
- 3:06Speaker 1: same thing that would end up, irritating you. Yeah, but
- 3:09Speaker 1: this was This is not about a love relationship. This
- 3:12Speaker 1: is about two people that are friends, homely love of friends,
- 3:15Speaker 1: if you will, and we have a great time. But
- 3:19Speaker 1: in order to get more and more, in order to
- 3:22Speaker 1: have a well balanced relationship, you know, a participant in
- 3:27Speaker 1: your life, not just somebody that comes in and makes
- 3:30Speaker 1: a good real quick and disappears. I'm talking about a partnership.
- 3:33Speaker 1: In order to have that, you gotta make way. You
- 3:36Speaker 1: gotta make room. And and that's my opinion. I really
- 3:40Speaker 1: feel like you got to you gotta clear some stuff out,
- 3:43Speaker 1: you know that in order to let that in. That's
- 3:46Speaker 1: the reason for the closure, because other than that, you
- 3:49Speaker 1: still got this other thing that can hold you back
- 3:51Speaker 1: from where you really want to go. You know, I
- 3:53Speaker 1: was watching the documentary on Central. I don't know if
- 3:55Speaker 1: the Docmunity is like you perform a live woman. Yeah,
- 3:58Speaker 1: and you seem like you're in a great space with love,
- 4:02Speaker 1: like you was talking about love and it's like your
- 4:05Speaker 1: eyes will water and I'm like, well, who is banging
- 4:08Speaker 1: jails back out? That got hurt feeling? Well, I can
- 4:13Speaker 1: say this, it's more than it's more than sex way
- 4:17Speaker 1: way way way more than that, And that's that's that's
- 4:21Speaker 1: the goal, that's the that's the the game, that's the
- 4:25Speaker 1: end game. You know, more than just my physicality being
- 4:29Speaker 1: appeased or pleased or stimulated or titillated. It's more than that,
- 4:34Speaker 1: you know, it's the rest of it. To have a
- 4:36Speaker 1: partner that's on your team, that will hold up their
- 4:41Speaker 1: end plus yours if you need it. That's what I'm
- 4:44Speaker 1: talking about. There's a difference, and you're willing to hold
- 4:47Speaker 1: up their end if they need it. Absolutely, It's it's
- 4:49Speaker 1: a beautiful giving take. No, you was talking like this
- 4:53Speaker 1: person that killed somebody for you before, like you like
- 4:56Speaker 1: you love this individual you was talking about. I'm sitting
- 5:00Speaker 1: on the couch like that. I really don't recall talking
- 5:02Speaker 1: about anyone though. You was talking in general about love.
- 5:06Speaker 1: You was like, you know, and love when you find
- 5:08Speaker 1: that one you because that is a part of observation
- 5:14Speaker 1: as well. I'm a voyeur. I watch people like for instance,
- 5:18Speaker 1: I met I met a musician the other day. I
- 5:21Speaker 1: loved watching him talk to his wife. I love looking
- 5:25Speaker 1: at her when she when he wasn't looking right. I
- 5:28Speaker 1: love watching her look at him. I was like, this
- 5:30Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about, right, you know, it's it's
- 5:34Speaker 1: I'm just paying attention to what I see, and I'm
- 5:37Speaker 1: seeing a beautiful resurrection of relationships, people that genuinely are
- 5:44Speaker 1: about that life for each other, and they have their
- 5:48Speaker 1: stuff with them, but it's their stuff, right, you know
- 5:51Speaker 1: what I mean? What kind of space? Where are you
- 5:54Speaker 1: in doing this album? Um? What kind of place was
- 5:57Speaker 1: I in? I was in a couple of places. Yeah,
- 6:00Speaker 1: because I hear different thing. Yeah. Well, the album is
- 6:05Speaker 1: like a journal, you know. So you if you've ever
- 6:08Speaker 1: kept a journal, I have since I was twelve. But
- 6:10Speaker 1: when you look through it, you've got sometimes you you're
- 6:14Speaker 1: every page, every day you're writing in your journal, and
- 6:16Speaker 1: then sometimes you're you miss months, right, you know. So
- 6:20Speaker 1: I'm strolling through the journal, looking through and I see
- 6:23Speaker 1: this part of myself, and I see this part of myself,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and that's kind of how the album really worked. Different
- 6:29Speaker 1: parts of your life, different pieces, and it's not necessarily
- 6:32Speaker 1: my life. Like I said, I'm a voyeur. I listened
- 6:35Speaker 1: to a lot of women. I listened to older women,
- 6:37Speaker 1: I listen to younger women. I listen and I listen
- 6:40Speaker 1: to men too. People talk to me for whatever reason
- 6:42Speaker 1: I let them, Oh, I think you'd make an amazing
- 6:44Speaker 1: life coach, thanks an amazing like psychiatrist type person you
- 6:49Speaker 1: would go to to tell your problems and then you
- 6:51Speaker 1: would give advice to Well, I play. That was one
- 6:53Speaker 1: of the plans before music. Yeah, or you would just
- 6:56Speaker 1: go psychology. I was about to really change the last
- 6:59Speaker 1: one minute and decided to teach English. Really, yeah, what
- 7:04Speaker 1: made you? What made you want to be a psychiatrist
- 7:06Speaker 1: to begin with? Well, I enjoyed listening, and I thought
- 7:11Speaker 1: that I could help, you know, if I, you know,
- 7:14Speaker 1: have a balanced perspective on stuff, that I might be
- 7:19Speaker 1: able to help somebody. That's interesting. I went to school
- 7:22Speaker 1: and I took psychology and it was too hard, and
- 7:24Speaker 1: I dropped that as the only class average job because
- 7:26Speaker 1: it was way harder than I thought it was gonna be.
- 7:28Speaker 1: And then I ended up being an English major. Right
- 7:30Speaker 1: after that, I did that, I didn't go to college.
- 7:34Speaker 1: When I tried to go to college, psychology and I
- 7:37Speaker 1: bought the book, but I never went to class. I
- 7:39Speaker 1: just ended up reading the book. Those books. Yeah, that
- 7:42Speaker 1: psychology book was like this thing. Yeah, I was like,
- 7:45Speaker 1: I don't know if this classes for me. Those books
- 7:47Speaker 1: are really expensive, which is one of the reasons why
- 7:49Speaker 1: I know, I know you guys are, But I ended
- 7:51Speaker 1: up starting Blues Baby Foundation because I wanted to pay
- 7:54Speaker 1: for people's books. Right, Like I couldn't afford my books.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I could afford school. I could get to school. Was
- 8:01Speaker 1: I wearing the same clothes a couple of times a week? Yeah,
- 8:05Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to second hand books like I
- 8:08Speaker 1: got the second hand so I could get right right,
- 8:11Speaker 1: that was a lot. That was a lot. No, I
- 8:18Speaker 1: clean toilets now now, um, you said something very interesting
- 8:23Speaker 1: in the Huffington Post I read. You said, being being
- 8:26Speaker 1: an artist you're talking about Bill Cobby. You said being
- 8:28Speaker 1: an artist and a black man that is beloved is
- 8:31Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous positions that you can be in.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on that. Well. I remember the day
- 8:41Speaker 1: when I was in New Jersey and I saw every
- 8:45Speaker 1: kid with an Allen iverson Jersey, on every kid everywhere,
- 8:51Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, he's in trouble, right, He's
- 8:55Speaker 1: in trouble. When you are looked past your skin and
- 8:59Speaker 1: at your talent, When you look past your skin and
- 9:02Speaker 1: at what you bring to something that people love, that
- 9:06Speaker 1: means You're beloved beyond the color of your skin or
- 9:09Speaker 1: your race and all of that. And it was maybe
- 9:12Speaker 1: a month later that he was on the cover of
- 9:16Speaker 1: the Daily News in Philadelphia with his braids out, and
- 9:20Speaker 1: he was about maybe two shades darker on the cover,
- 9:25Speaker 1: and then he was It was like they had vilified him,
- 9:28Speaker 1: you know that quick. Bringing a lot of light and
- 9:33Speaker 1: attention to the prospect of a human being simply being
- 9:39Speaker 1: a human being, coming from a black man is dangerous
- 9:44Speaker 1: in my opinion. Look at what happened to Michael Jackson,
- 9:49Speaker 1: look at what happened to Kevin Clash. I'm talking about Elmo,
- 9:54Speaker 1: how he was so beloved by everyone. I'm not trying
- 9:59Speaker 1: to dismiss the fact that people that folks have done
- 10:03Speaker 1: some terrible foul things. With the understanding that men all
- 10:10Speaker 1: have proclivities, rich ones, smart ones, dumb ones, backwoods ones,
- 10:17Speaker 1: all men have proclivities. That just means something that's natural
- 10:20Speaker 1: to you, that you like, that's probably really bad. Yea.
- 10:24Speaker 1: So we forget our heroes are human, forget that they're human.
- 10:27Speaker 1: But what I see is at our heroes and and
- 10:33Speaker 1: please understand, I'm from North Philly, but Cosby is from
- 10:37Speaker 1: North Philly. That man was like a father to me.
- 10:42Speaker 1: He showed me everything about life that I did not
- 10:45Speaker 1: see in North Philadelphia, not just because I watched the
- 10:49Speaker 1: television shows, but I did watch them. I watched the
- 10:52Speaker 1: Cosby Show. I mean, I watched the Cosby Show. I
- 10:55Speaker 1: watched that Albert Different world made me want to go
- 10:58Speaker 1: to college. College. Ain't nobody around my way going into college.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I appreciate and respect that legacy. Still, that's a man. Still,
- 11:10Speaker 1: that's a man. And I've always been about that with
- 11:12Speaker 1: fame and famous people, but I I felt the need
- 11:17Speaker 1: to remember the Kevin clashes and the Michael Jackson's and
- 11:21Speaker 1: how people were really trying to destroy that legacy. What's
- 11:26Speaker 1: the dude's name, Phil Spector. He killed a woman, tried
- 11:31Speaker 1: and convicted, but he's still in the Rock and roll
- 11:34Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. If I'm not mistaken, Elvis like them young,
- 11:40Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying that this is right. I'm saying
- 11:42Speaker 1: that all men have proclivities, and I really feel that
- 11:47Speaker 1: whatever is done to some do to all, don't decimate
- 11:51Speaker 1: the legacy of the good. You're trying to tell me,
- 11:54Speaker 1: You're trying to tell me they're regardless of how much
- 11:58Speaker 1: good I do in the world. If I do something bad,
- 12:01Speaker 1: just something terrible, everything else gets pushed away. You forget
- 12:07Speaker 1: and you think this is something that happens with black man.
- 12:09Speaker 1: And then you look particular a Phil Specter who still
- 12:12Speaker 1: is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame even
- 12:14Speaker 1: though he murdered someone and another Harrilson has had sex
- 12:19Speaker 1: with his um step daughter or whatever whatever. She was
- 12:24Speaker 1: adopted not white men can't jump my bad. Yes, they
- 12:30Speaker 1: had an adopted daughter and he ended up marrying her. Yes,
- 12:34Speaker 1: And what was it great Balls of Fire? Wasn't that movie?
- 12:37Speaker 1: Um Jim, who was it? Buddy Holly? I mean it happened.
- 12:41Speaker 1: It has happened in Latin history. And now they're saying
- 12:43Speaker 1: with Bill Cosby, get all his TV shows up the air,
- 12:46Speaker 1: Spellming no longer one. I think that's why scholarship program
- 12:49Speaker 1: they took down his statue. I think that's why. The
- 12:51Speaker 1: reason I think that's why is because like what Jill
- 12:53Speaker 1: just said about a different world inspired her to want
- 12:54Speaker 1: to go to college, and my homegirl, jazz Fly, she
- 12:56Speaker 1: has just saying what she says, we have to learn
- 12:59Speaker 1: to separate the art from the artists. The art helped
- 13:02Speaker 1: and benefited a lot. The artists may be flawed, but
- 13:05Speaker 1: the art made you want to go to college. Wagner
- 13:09Speaker 1: a notorious racist, but incredible musician and composer. I mean
- 13:15Speaker 1: the history and list of men with dirty, terrible things.
- 13:19Speaker 1: And guess what, the more money you get, the more
- 13:23Speaker 1: easily and more apt you are to do the worst things,
- 13:27Speaker 1: because they've always been in you. There it is. If
- 13:30Speaker 1: nobody's helped you or or guided you or stopped you
- 13:34Speaker 1: from being the worst you could be, and they're lifting
- 13:37Speaker 1: you up and just you know, allowing you to do
- 13:40Speaker 1: the worst things, you're gonna do it. Probably, So what
- 13:42Speaker 1: do you think should happen then? In that case, in
- 13:45Speaker 1: a Belle Cosby situation? Ah, what do I think should
- 13:52Speaker 1: happen to him? Yeah? Like what should happen? What should
- 13:55Speaker 1: the repercussions be? I mean a lot of these crimes,
- 13:58Speaker 1: alleged crimes, were committed so long ago it's passed statute
- 14:01Speaker 1: of limitation. I think the best thing for mister Cozle
- 14:04Speaker 1: to do right now is pass away because the slander
- 14:07Speaker 1: turned to simplathy. Just like that, they did the same
- 14:10Speaker 1: thing to Michael. They vilified Michael. Then when Michael passed.
- 14:14Speaker 1: He was the hero again, that's what they say, though
- 14:15Speaker 1: they say you either died a hero or a live
- 14:17Speaker 1: long enough to become a villain. I was told, I
- 14:20Speaker 1: don't know if it's true or not that the first
- 14:22Speaker 1: person to accuse Michael Jackson of their father committee suicide.
- 14:27Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I don't know either. I
- 14:29Speaker 1: just heard that. I don't know if it's true or not.
- 14:31Speaker 1: All that's this is a show that's not based on facts. Yeah,
- 14:35Speaker 1: I mean, all I'm saying is that looking at the
- 14:39Speaker 1: big picture was the reason that I could not could
- 14:45Speaker 1: not make any real decisions other than love. If it's
- 14:53Speaker 1: your father, if it's your dad, and fifty, let's say sixty,
- 14:58Speaker 1: let's say a hundred people say so something terrible about
- 15:01Speaker 1: your father, the one that's raised you, the one that's
- 15:04Speaker 1: been there, the one that took care of your skin, knees.
- 15:07Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this because I saw the man
- 15:09Speaker 1: on television. Bill Cosby has been good to me, officially
- 15:13Speaker 1: good to me. North Philly girl, doing well, reaching out,
- 15:17Speaker 1: how you're doing? You need anything? Let me give you
- 15:19Speaker 1: some advice, let me share something you know, a cappuccino
- 15:23Speaker 1: with you, no, but he had his daughter drive to
- 15:27Speaker 1: New York to get something from my throat and I
- 15:29Speaker 1: toured up. I drank it every day. It's it's hard,
- 15:33Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And plus he hasn't said yes,
- 15:37Speaker 1: I've done. But even in the demosition, you did you
- 15:45Speaker 1: you came out and said you had to stop defriending
- 15:47Speaker 1: him though, because it doesn't look good. I mean, my
- 15:50Speaker 1: mind is present. My heart did not want to believe
- 15:54Speaker 1: anything negative about someone I love and admire and respect
- 15:58Speaker 1: so much, but my mind is still. President was like,
- 16:04Speaker 1: damn it, there's no way around this. This is just
- 16:08Speaker 1: looks bad. It smells bad, it tastes bad. This this
- 16:11Speaker 1: is bad. You got a lot of backlash from social media.
- 16:13Speaker 1: I was like, this is Jill Scott y'all trying to slay.
- 16:15Speaker 1: But listen, people make mistakes. Sometimes we misspeak. We can
- 16:18Speaker 1: change our mind, we can change your view on something.
- 16:20Speaker 1: I can get more information. Are you sure? You can
- 16:23Speaker 1: get more information and more facts and be like, you
- 16:25Speaker 1: know what, maybe there's more to this than I originally knew.
- 16:30Speaker 1: It happens every day, right, it happens all the time.
- 16:33Speaker 1: You don't you don't know something, and then you find
- 16:35Speaker 1: something out, and you find out some more. All I
- 16:37Speaker 1: know is that, um, I'm a human being and my
- 16:45Speaker 1: love ain't watery. H and just because it got hot,
- 16:50Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It didn't just jump and
- 16:53Speaker 1: dissipate or evaporate. People ain'tn't understand it. You don't understand.
- 17:00Speaker 1: And I'm a real I'm a person, and this man.
- 17:06Speaker 1: If I could explain how many people die in North Philly,
- 17:09Speaker 1: especially when I was growing up, if I could explain
- 17:12Speaker 1: the differences between myself and I felt like so many
- 17:17Speaker 1: other people, I felt very alone, and I saw someone
- 17:22Speaker 1: just making strides knocking down doors, it was inspiring to me.
- 17:27Speaker 1: And I would hope that if the shoe was ever
- 17:30Speaker 1: on the other foot, that something was being said about
- 17:32Speaker 1: me that was terrible, horrible, vile and disgusting. I would
- 17:38Speaker 1: hope that somebody who's ever claimed to appreciate love and
- 17:42Speaker 1: respect me would at least be like, let wait, wait, wait,
- 17:45Speaker 1: wait wait, I'm not jumping up anything. I'm a whole
- 17:49Speaker 1: tight a of Twitter followers, you know. I would hope
- 17:57Speaker 1: that I could be treated the way I would want
- 18:00Speaker 1: that I treat other people. How do you deal with
- 18:02Speaker 1: social media? Do you ever feel like you want to disconnect,
- 18:03Speaker 1: because when you know, when you just seeing music and
- 18:05Speaker 1: you hear you talk, I don't feel like you're a
- 18:06Speaker 1: social media present. But I see you going back and
- 18:08Speaker 1: forth sometimes with these trolls. Sometimes sometimes I sometimes, I mean,
- 18:15Speaker 1: it baffles me because I was just saying this out there.
- 18:17Speaker 1: I was like, I don't see how somebody cannot like
- 18:19Speaker 1: Jail Scott, I just don't get it. Like amazing singer,
- 18:23Speaker 1: great songs, fifteen years in the game, always minding your business,
- 18:27Speaker 1: You're not. It's not like you be in the middle
- 18:29Speaker 1: of Typically I try, I try. If somebody message your man,
- 18:35Speaker 1: Y'll walk over there and snap. I mean, you are
- 18:37Speaker 1: what women we go through the same things you go through.
- 18:41Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think we live in the era
- 18:42Speaker 1: of you getting back what you give out no more.
- 18:44Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe I get it back. I
- 18:50Speaker 1: get it back. I get it back. I get it back.
- 18:53Speaker 1: When somebody yells from across the street or somebody behind
- 18:56Speaker 1: me is like, appreciate you, thanks to because they're not
- 19:01Speaker 1: stopping my life, you know what I mean. Fanaticism is
- 19:06Speaker 1: different from respect. Fanaticism goes hard and it's it's what
- 19:11Speaker 1: they need, not not what will make this a real moment.
- 19:15Speaker 1: It's like, ah, you know, And I experience that occasionally
- 19:20Speaker 1: more than more than I want to. But then I
- 19:22Speaker 1: have these moments where somebody is telling me what this
- 19:26Speaker 1: song did or how it affected something in their lives.
- 19:31Speaker 1: I gave birth to this song, I made my child
- 19:34Speaker 1: to this song. When my father died, we played this song.
- 19:38Speaker 1: He loved this. And I have those kind of moments
- 19:41Speaker 1: where I'm great, I'm so grateful to have any impact
- 19:46Speaker 1: on someone's life. I'm like, Wow, I get to do this.
- 19:50Speaker 1: That's in music. It's supposed to be for I would think,
- 19:53Speaker 1: I would think, and I appreciate those moments. Why did
- 19:57Speaker 1: you tight of this album? Woman? I've been waiting to
- 20:01Speaker 1: get here for a long time as a as a female,
- 20:05Speaker 1: I've been waiting to get to this point where I'm
- 20:07Speaker 1: I'm grown. I'm going to say what I feel. I'm
- 20:11Speaker 1: gonna say what I believe. I'm going to use my
- 20:13Speaker 1: wisdom um that I've had enough life experiences that I
- 20:17Speaker 1: feel like, I could, you know, really impact somebody younger
- 20:21Speaker 1: than me, or maybe somebody at the same age. I
- 20:23Speaker 1: associate myself with elder women because they've got great stories,
- 20:28Speaker 1: they've got great advice. They call me on my stuff.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Oh they call me, oh boy, Not that I'm not
- 20:42Speaker 1: talking about real life. Like what what what I got
- 20:45Speaker 1: from my elder sister about the Bill Cosby situation, She said,
- 20:48Speaker 1: I don't agree with you, but you have the right
- 20:52Speaker 1: to feel the way you do. Now, what the rest
- 20:57Speaker 1: of the world didn't know is, at the same time,
- 21:00Speaker 1: my father has dementia. So I'm losing my dad right
- 21:04Speaker 1: and I'm losing my dad at the same time. I'm
- 21:10Speaker 1: not talking about like I don't I'm not looking for
- 21:11Speaker 1: anybody feel sorry for me. I'm just saying I am
- 21:14Speaker 1: a person. There's stuff that happens in the course of
- 21:16Speaker 1: a life that somebody else doesn't understand, and it is
- 21:22Speaker 1: what it is. What about relationships? Do you have elder
- 21:25Speaker 1: women that call you out on things that you do
- 21:27Speaker 1: in relationships that you need to do differently. Absolutely, they'll
- 21:31Speaker 1: don't stop me. I'm like, well, this is what I'm
- 21:33Speaker 1: going to do. I don't do that quick. I used to.
- 21:39Speaker 1: I used to you should never fall in love. When
- 21:42Speaker 1: you fall, you get hurt. You're supposed to grow in
- 21:43Speaker 1: love with people. I agree. I agree. It takes time.
- 21:47Speaker 1: It takes time, but you kind of. My grandmother told
- 21:50Speaker 1: me that the man is the stem and the woman
- 21:54Speaker 1: is the flower, and he must always be looking up
- 21:56Speaker 1: at her, and the stem gets stuck in the flower
- 22:00Speaker 1: too exactly. Hey, yeah, yeah, you feel me. But he's
- 22:06Speaker 1: the root and she's the blossom. From that. From that
- 22:10Speaker 1: and I she always told me that the men know
- 22:13Speaker 1: before we do. You guys know, at some point, tell me,
- 22:18Speaker 1: did you look at your wife and say that's my wife? Yes,
- 22:22Speaker 1: that's what Apparently that's why I know exactly when that happened,
- 22:24Speaker 1: was shot at me too. When did he tell you?
- 22:27Speaker 1: He was laying it here on the floor, almost dead
- 22:30Speaker 1: from de hijason and exhaustion, running around doing whatever he
- 22:34Speaker 1: was doing and calling me job. He goes like this,
- 22:39Speaker 1: I gotta get my girl back. I'm getting married, so
- 22:41Speaker 1: I've done. I remember that bottom growls that was in
- 22:48Speaker 1: the collub drinking your bottles. They don't care about you,
- 22:51Speaker 1: But when you was, when you was laying on me,
- 22:53Speaker 1: and he didn't even care, We didn't care. We were
- 22:57Speaker 1: you coming to work tomorrow way to keep it real, okay,
- 23:02Speaker 1: And that's how he true. You know, those men know,
- 23:05Speaker 1: we just know we know who the one is now
- 23:07Speaker 1: even if we and it's your job to convince us
- 23:10Speaker 1: that absolutely convince convince me that you're different, that you're different,
- 23:14Speaker 1: and that this is sincere and that you mean what
- 23:16Speaker 1: you say. And that's a part of the beautiful you know,
- 23:20Speaker 1: the whole Oh that I love that part. Convince me,
- 23:25Speaker 1: show up. It never stops, though, because for some reason,
- 23:27Speaker 1: women are never really truly convinced. And I guess that
- 23:29Speaker 1: keeps us on our toes because you'll be taking like
- 23:32Speaker 1: two steps forward and one step backward. That's why I
- 23:34Speaker 1: think a lot of times you'll do like some great
- 23:36Speaker 1: stuff and then all of a sudden you do something
- 23:38Speaker 1: that's a red flag. Men. You heard just say that
- 23:41Speaker 1: we're men? Yeah, and then you know what guys have
- 23:43Speaker 1: to say, Well, I'm a working progress. That's the guy's
- 23:47Speaker 1: I'm a work in progress. Done stamp on me. I'm
- 23:52Speaker 1: on a working progress. We all are, but where we
- 23:55Speaker 1: all make decisions we can't make and try our best
- 23:58Speaker 1: to stick by them. Like I'm like you said, your
- 24:00Speaker 1: name is albums a woman. I'm still trying to figure
- 24:01Speaker 1: out why, at this point in your life you feel
- 24:03Speaker 1: like a woman because you've been married, you've got a child,
- 24:05Speaker 1: like yeah, why now? And I'm holding myself to another
- 24:10Speaker 1: level of accountability. I think I used to blame whoever
- 24:14Speaker 1: it was that hurt my feelings, like they were wrong,
- 24:18Speaker 1: you know, And now I hold myself accountable a r.
- 24:23Speaker 1: You chose that person, you accepted his you accepted it,
- 24:29Speaker 1: you went forward, You bit into the apple, you you
- 24:34Speaker 1: bought the wooden nickel. You know what I'm saying. You
- 24:38Speaker 1: did that. The accountability is a big position and being
- 24:42Speaker 1: a woman and being an adult, um, not just being
- 24:45Speaker 1: an adult, but officially owning your womanhood because a lot
- 24:48Speaker 1: of times we have these fantasies as girls or how
- 24:51Speaker 1: it's going to be and who he's going to be
- 24:53Speaker 1: and if he hurts my feelings and he hurt feelings,
- 24:56Speaker 1: well men have feelings too, they do and and it
- 25:01Speaker 1: takes two to tango. So are you in a relationship
- 25:03Speaker 1: right now? SIPs coffee, sip cappuccino. Sent about Bill Colony.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Very interesting what you said though, because you said you're
- 25:15Speaker 1: taking accountability for you, so you can't be a woman,
- 25:19Speaker 1: like like, a marriage don't make you a woman, A
- 25:21Speaker 1: child will make you a woman? Has to be something
- 25:22Speaker 1: within you. Yes, yes, and that takes time. You got
- 25:27Speaker 1: to earn your stripes. You know, you gotta get down
- 25:31Speaker 1: on the ground, have a heartbreak. Look at yourself, really
- 25:39Speaker 1: look at yourself, the choices that your mother made. How
- 25:44Speaker 1: did you end up here? Why did you get here
- 25:48Speaker 1: and then start making some changes? Right? What do you
- 25:51Speaker 1: think has contributed to your growth the most in your life?
- 25:54Speaker 1: If you could pinpoint one thing, you said, this is
- 25:58Speaker 1: what made me grow. My son. I knew at having
- 26:00Speaker 1: a child that'll do it. My son, Yeah, because he
- 26:03Speaker 1: sees me. It's not like I confront with him, like
- 26:07Speaker 1: he sees me like everything's all right, baby. He's like,
- 26:11Speaker 1: I just saw you crying. He told me not too
- 26:15Speaker 1: long ago, he told me that women have to tough up.
- 26:19Speaker 1: I was telling him I was afraid. I was like,
- 26:22Speaker 1: I'm scared, and he was just like, mommy, women just
- 26:25Speaker 1: have to tough up. I don't know if it's that easy.
- 26:27Speaker 1: I was just having this conversation with somebody else said
- 26:29Speaker 1: about how women are so vulnerable, and you know, it's
- 26:31Speaker 1: the same thing because I have a daughter. So you
- 26:33Speaker 1: start to see different things. Women have different things they
- 26:35Speaker 1: have to deal with, especially a black woman. They got
- 26:37Speaker 1: to deal with racism and feminism, which is that's kind
- 26:40Speaker 1: of hard. He kind of leaves you open all the time.
- 26:43Speaker 1: It can Well, the thing is about being open, is
- 26:48Speaker 1: you have to for me anyway, I believe that you
- 26:52Speaker 1: have to make the decision on how much you open
- 26:55Speaker 1: and where you do, you know, giving a little bit
- 26:57Speaker 1: at a time, giving a little bit. If you're in
- 26:59Speaker 1: a relationship, why should why should he see everything? What
- 27:03Speaker 1: happened I'll say for me anyway, what happened for me
- 27:06Speaker 1: is the kind of relationship that I had with the
- 27:08Speaker 1: last dude. I'm trying to have with the next dude
- 27:10Speaker 1: because that's the kind of relationship I like. Right Well,
- 27:14Speaker 1: it's a whole different person with a whole different you know,
- 27:18Speaker 1: you're trying to date the same person in different skin,
- 27:21Speaker 1: you know, or you are dating the same person in
- 27:23Speaker 1: different skin, So you end up missing out on what
- 27:26Speaker 1: you really need because you're looking at what you want.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Women look at what they need more than what they want. Necessity.
- 27:36Speaker 1: Am I choosing a fabulous pair of shoes? Or am
- 27:39Speaker 1: I choosing a healthy meal? Am I choosing this house
- 27:44Speaker 1: that I can't afford? Or am I choosing to live
- 27:47Speaker 1: within my life, in my budget, within my budget, within
- 27:51Speaker 1: my circumstance. So I ain't got to worry. It's it's
- 27:55Speaker 1: it's about making decisions and I'm not saying you got
- 27:59Speaker 1: to stick by them, but you have to look at
- 28:03Speaker 1: the bigger picture than what you want right now. Because
- 28:07Speaker 1: that's what girls do their children and in a sense,
- 28:10Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's what kids do. Kids
- 28:12Speaker 1: get what they want. They don't think about I need
- 28:14Speaker 1: to eat vegetables because you know I need to, you know,
- 28:18Speaker 1: have a proper movement, nothing about stuff like that. Younger girls,
- 28:22Speaker 1: if you don't know, yeah, I mean that's what that's
- 28:24Speaker 1: where kids are with it. And a lot of women,
- 28:28Speaker 1: or I'll say a lot of grown girls. Grown girls,
- 28:33Speaker 1: you know, they make their their decisions on their life
- 28:36Speaker 1: based on what they want, not what you need. Man,
- 28:39Speaker 1: do you think women know how much power they have?
- 28:41Speaker 1: Because I know this is the thought that now. I
- 28:43Speaker 1: feel like if women came together and created an organization,
- 28:46Speaker 1: I feel like they'd be more powerful than the ADF
- 28:48Speaker 1: And I think glad like women can shut you down. Yeah.
- 28:51Speaker 1: We make decisions about what we're going to accept in
- 28:54Speaker 1: what we want, able to change a whole lot of
- 28:56Speaker 1: things in this society, a whole lot of change. If
- 29:00Speaker 1: we decided that we don't like guys that show their
- 29:05Speaker 1: underwear in the street, I'm gonna give you about a
- 29:09Speaker 1: good month. Nobody's gonna be showing their underwear. Nobody's gonna
- 29:13Speaker 1: be showing the I'm telling you. We we make a
- 29:16Speaker 1: decision and say that we need someone that reads a
- 29:22Speaker 1: book that I can have a conversation with. We need
- 29:27Speaker 1: that it's a requirement before I even let you touch it.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Things are gonna change. I do feel like women set
- 29:35Speaker 1: the tone in relationships in life. In life, God's only
- 29:39Speaker 1: doing what girls, except we dress a certain that's more
- 29:46Speaker 1: power than me. No. I don't know who's gonna tell
- 29:48Speaker 1: them that though, But that's I mean, that's what happens
- 29:50Speaker 1: with girls. I mean, being a girl is an awesome, fun, crazy, wild,
- 29:56Speaker 1: beautiful experience except for when we got the money about it.
- 30:00Speaker 1: But being a woman there's something so fulfilling, and so
- 30:05Speaker 1: it's like it's like somebody turned the light on and
- 30:08Speaker 1: you can just see, like, oh, that's where I've been
- 30:13Speaker 1: bugging all of this time. You know, I've been this dude.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Like for instance, there's a song on the album called
- 30:21Speaker 1: The Lighthouse. It's called Lighthouse, And initially she's saying that, um,
- 30:27Speaker 1: you know, I'm here for you, you know, for whatever.
- 30:30Speaker 1: I'm your rock, and it sounds like to me, it
- 30:34Speaker 1: sounds like, you know, they make love. That's what it
- 30:36Speaker 1: sounds like musically it does. But then afterwards she has
- 30:40Speaker 1: a moment where she's saying, I'm sitting here contemplating if
- 30:45Speaker 1: if we should even be you know, I've got I
- 30:48Speaker 1: have a man that loves me for me. He do
- 30:50Speaker 1: anything easily for his heart knows no boundaries. But he
- 30:55Speaker 1: needs he needs sometimes to right with a different pen
- 31:01Speaker 1: on different paper. He needs to cheat every now and listen,
- 31:09Speaker 1: that thing right there preaching some thoughtful I'm not saying.
- 31:15Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that he needs.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Not every man needs to to to be a philanderer.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Not every man has to have a whole bunch of women,
- 31:26Speaker 1: women to feel solid in whom they are and who
- 31:29Speaker 1: they are, or uh, just because they like it, you
- 31:33Speaker 1: know what I mean. Not every man needs that. But
- 31:35Speaker 1: if you have one of those, can you deal with that?
- 31:42Speaker 1: And that's your decision. That is your decision, and once
- 31:45Speaker 1: you make it, make it. It shouldn't be your decision.
- 31:50Speaker 1: If the man's doing what he's supposed to do, And
- 31:51Speaker 1: by that I mean not getting caught cheating. It ain't
- 31:56Speaker 1: get cheating. In this case, she knows that he needs
- 32:00Speaker 1: to do that right And I don't I personally, as
- 32:02Speaker 1: a woman, I don't want to live in a relationship
- 32:06Speaker 1: where you got secrets that you have this other life
- 32:09Speaker 1: that I'm not privy to. If you have another life,
- 32:11Speaker 1: go go to that other life. Because I'm trying to
- 32:14Speaker 1: be your ace, you'd be surprised. But if you tell
- 32:17Speaker 1: a woman you want and need from a relationship that
- 32:20Speaker 1: they might really be okay with it, rather than if
- 32:24Speaker 1: you do it without saying anything and then she finds
- 32:27Speaker 1: out and now you have a secret for me. If
- 32:29Speaker 1: somebody has information, it is true, it is true, but
- 32:34Speaker 1: that's it. But also I believe that that's a difference
- 32:36Speaker 1: between dealing with a woman and a girl. A girl,
- 32:42Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know for the time being.
- 32:46Speaker 1: For the time being, a woman might be all for
- 32:48Speaker 1: it too. I'm not. I'm listening. Just just to be
- 32:52Speaker 1: clear with you, I'm not judgmental. I'm not. What I
- 32:55Speaker 1: do is I make observations about people, life and things.
- 32:59Speaker 1: That's my job. I'm a journalist that happens to sing
- 33:02Speaker 1: the reports. That's what I do. If you're honest about
- 33:09Speaker 1: what you need, you just might get it. You just
- 33:13Speaker 1: might get it and be happy. Now, don't go home
- 33:17Speaker 1: and jump off the like Nope, I'm not gonna do it. Well,
- 33:26Speaker 1: I mean to believe me, I'm just gotten. I'm definitely
- 33:33Speaker 1: in a position to get exactly what it is that
- 33:36Speaker 1: I want. And that's what it's got to be, not want,
- 33:43Speaker 1: forgive me, forgive me. I've had what I want to need,
- 33:46Speaker 1: what I need, what I needed. I don't know about everybody.
- 33:51Speaker 1: This just got need. I need a partner. I need
- 33:54Speaker 1: somebody that can understand what it is that my life is.
- 33:58Speaker 1: That UM can check me and not in a disrespectful
- 34:04Speaker 1: way or woman bow down kind of way, but yo,
- 34:09Speaker 1: you need to show for a minute for real, and
- 34:12Speaker 1: then the mutual respect that says to me, you have
- 34:17Speaker 1: nothing in you that wants harm for me, nothing you
- 34:20Speaker 1: love me. Let me sit down for a men and
- 34:23Speaker 1: trust and have faith in that. That's what I need.
- 34:26Speaker 1: I need that kind of relationship. I need somebody who
- 34:29Speaker 1: likes to go to lows. You know what I'm saying,
- 34:32Speaker 1: like I like to fix stuff around my house, participate,
- 34:35Speaker 1: and what I'm saying, I need someone who's gonna show
- 34:37Speaker 1: up to the crib with with some paper towels, you
- 34:42Speaker 1: know what I mean, some toilet paper, Like you're gonna
- 34:44Speaker 1: be here, right, you know you're not gonna use paper
- 34:47Speaker 1: towels you. I'm just no, no, no, no, no, no
- 34:52Speaker 1: no no no. I just I I need I need
- 34:57Speaker 1: my ace, you know what I mean, someone that really
- 35:01Speaker 1: understands and enjoys and loves the things that I love
- 35:05Speaker 1: and wants to support the things that I love, and
- 35:08Speaker 1: has things that I love about them that they want
- 35:11Speaker 1: me to support them in. And I enjoy it. And
- 35:13Speaker 1: it sounds so simple. It's so simple. It's so simple.
- 35:17Speaker 1: It's it's really not rocket science. We put all this
- 35:20Speaker 1: other stuff on it. Oh he gotta have um, he
- 35:24Speaker 1: gotta have a sixth pack in a Bugatti. He gotta
- 35:28Speaker 1: have this, that, that, that, that, and that not all
- 35:30Speaker 1: of the stuff that at the end of the day,
- 35:37Speaker 1: it looks nice, but that whip can be crashed, that
- 35:41Speaker 1: house can be burnt. You know, those those abs I
- 35:44Speaker 1: mean letting me too much or not work out or whatever.
- 35:47Speaker 1: They dissipay, they disappear, and what do you have? All
- 35:51Speaker 1: of your wants are checked, they're gone, and now you
- 35:54Speaker 1: got this guy with none of the stuff that you wanted.
- 35:57Speaker 1: That's not that lows with me. That's not bringing over.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Note to No, that's not participating in life. I need
- 36:03Speaker 1: you to participate in life. We want to live right right.
- 36:08Speaker 1: That means that maybe you cook tonight, maybe maybe we
- 36:14Speaker 1: have a chef, Maybe maybe maybe I cook, Maybe you
- 36:18Speaker 1: mock the floor. I'm just saying, in order for things
- 36:21Speaker 1: to stay, it's some modicum of normality which I believe in.
- 36:27Speaker 1: I don't want to get too fancy that I forget
- 36:29Speaker 1: that I'm Joyce's daughter and Bill's child. I don't want
- 36:33Speaker 1: to forget that. I don't want to forget that. I
- 36:35Speaker 1: can tell you grew up around a lot of loving
- 36:37Speaker 1: relationships like you saw a lot of healthy relationship and
- 36:40Speaker 1: I love seeing it. I love seeing it. I don't
- 36:42Speaker 1: know how it is that I'm gonna tell you what
- 36:45Speaker 1: happened as a girl, I forgot what was important. I'm
- 36:51Speaker 1: supposed to be adored. You're supposed to be adored. Your
- 36:56Speaker 1: wife is supposed to be adored like the flower. Get it.
- 37:03Speaker 1: That's that's how you know when you are when you
- 37:07Speaker 1: are loved and appreciated for not for having your weave
- 37:11Speaker 1: tight today and they might not be, or your nails
- 37:15Speaker 1: done or or you know, the pooch might be sitting
- 37:19Speaker 1: out today or whatever the case is. Like, have someone
- 37:23Speaker 1: that appreciates who you are, regardless. That means it's past
- 37:29Speaker 1: being male or female. It's being it's love. It's way
- 37:34Speaker 1: past that. I think we put a lot of for
- 37:38Speaker 1: lack of a better if we put a lot of
- 37:40Speaker 1: ball on things that really matter. Right. So that's you know,
- 37:45Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I sound like I'm preaching you, that's
- 37:47Speaker 1: really not my not I'm just hanging out with these
- 37:53Speaker 1: older chicks. So I has to do with the album Women,
- 37:55Speaker 1: And you wanted to know why the album is called Women,
- 37:57Speaker 1: and these are all the reasons. Thank you, Thank you.
- 38:00Speaker 1: I was a long way around. But you know, when
- 38:04Speaker 1: you're getting talk show man, I'm not you need to sell.
- 38:07Speaker 1: You gotta give it like this with just got it
- 38:09Speaker 1: to the masses. For everybody that's not listening to your music,
- 38:12Speaker 1: which you should be, but for some people don't need
- 38:13Speaker 1: to hear your your your wisdom. I feel like you're
- 38:15Speaker 1: full of knowledge was and you got a nice warm
- 38:18Speaker 1: I think through your music and your performances that is
- 38:23Speaker 1: like my talk show for a while. You need to talk.
- 38:28Speaker 1: You could be the new over for you, and you
- 38:30Speaker 1: got It's like when you talk, it's like I feel
- 38:31Speaker 1: like you're gonna burt me and then let me lay
- 38:33Speaker 1: on your bullsom you know what I mean. Like it's
- 38:36Speaker 1: just warm. Maybe I don't know. I don't know. There's
- 38:43Speaker 1: much to do, There's a lot to do. I'm I'm
- 38:46Speaker 1: really excited about about my future. I'm really excited about that.
- 38:50Speaker 1: So just in case something happens and somebody tells you
- 38:56Speaker 1: that I killed myself, fuck, no, no, no, on everything
- 39:04Speaker 1: I'm telling you, on everything, everything ever good, that ever
- 39:08Speaker 1: happened in my life, that that is something that I
- 39:11Speaker 1: would not do. Feel me, anybody hearing me out there? Yes,
- 39:15Speaker 1: all right, not just saying. I'm just saying just in
- 39:19Speaker 1: case somebody says that I did that, I'm saying right
- 39:21Speaker 1: here that definitely not happened. I'm willing to go through
- 39:25Speaker 1: the fire. Do you have those concerns now? Of course?
- 39:30Speaker 1: Of course? How do how do we not have those
- 39:32Speaker 1: concerns that black women are very vulnerable, like my homebod
- 39:35Speaker 1: was like women got all the power. I'm saying they do,
- 39:37Speaker 1: but they're still so vulnerable. Do you understand how much
- 39:40Speaker 1: we need you? Brothers? Do you do you? Do you
- 39:42Speaker 1: grasp how necessary you are? Do you see what's happening
- 39:49Speaker 1: with our kids? Do you do you? Are you paying
- 39:52Speaker 1: attention that they're building more prisons and tearing down schools?
- 39:56Speaker 1: Do you see what's happening? How necessary you are? Not
- 40:00Speaker 1: just your presence, but your voice and your your your command.
- 40:06Speaker 1: We need we need you wide awake. We need you
- 40:09Speaker 1: so desperately, so deeply. Whatever it is that you have planned,
- 40:22Speaker 1: keep it in the dark. Revolution does not happen in
- 40:25Speaker 1: the light. It happens in the darkness. Normally some smoke involved.
- 40:30Speaker 1: I'm just saying, jazz was not invented in the broad daylight.
- 40:34Speaker 1: It was invented in small, tiny places with a lot
- 40:38Speaker 1: of smoke in the air and people were being themselves.
- 40:42Speaker 1: You can't videotape it, you can't blog about it. You
- 40:45Speaker 1: can you can't do any of that stuff. It has
- 40:48Speaker 1: to be quiet and focused, and then you bring in
- 40:52Speaker 1: people who mean and do good that are focused on that,
- 40:58Speaker 1: not just everybody because it looks nice. That just people
- 41:02Speaker 1: that want to hashtage and instagram and post pictures. But
- 41:05Speaker 1: the hashtag right right, If we if we want to
- 41:10Speaker 1: make a change, it's got to be done quietly. First
- 41:16Speaker 1: focus the direction and then make that direction happen. Focus
- 41:20Speaker 1: bringing people that you need. What do you need? You
- 41:22Speaker 1: need people that thoroughly understand the law and all the
- 41:25Speaker 1: addendums and amendums and all that other foolishness that are
- 41:29Speaker 1: added to laws. You need somebody that understands it, really
- 41:31Speaker 1: really understands it. Then you needn't. I'm not sure about politicians.
- 41:38Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I don't either. I
- 41:41Speaker 1: guess you kind of do it because when you look
- 41:42Speaker 1: at people like Martin VI. King Jr. He needed John F.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Kennedy and Linda B. Johnson to make the civil rights
- 41:46Speaker 1: like in nineteen sixty four happened. So you kind of
- 41:47Speaker 1: do for like laws of the land. But yeah, I
- 41:50Speaker 1: don't think you do for revolution, right, the true revolution,
- 41:53Speaker 1: and it's it's and it has no color. Revolution doesn't
- 41:57Speaker 1: have a color. It is people this siding that what
- 42:01Speaker 1: is happening is incorrect. Absolutely, it's not beneficial to the society.
- 42:07Speaker 1: It's not the beneficial to the people when foods have
- 42:12Speaker 1: more stuff than food in them, right. I was just
- 42:15Speaker 1: talking about this yesterday. That's Craig. Craig, how do you
- 42:18Speaker 1: expect people to to thrive and grow and survive and
- 42:22Speaker 1: be saying? How do you expect that? Right? You know
- 42:25Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Joe Scott, Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry
- 42:30Speaker 1: if I got heavy on I'm sorry. I wanted to
- 42:35Speaker 1: ask you about bj the Chicago Kitty is the only
- 42:37Speaker 1: him because I like the Chicago kid. But I was
- 42:42Speaker 1: just wondering what made you decide he was the one
- 42:45Speaker 1: feature for the album. There were a lot of people
- 42:47Speaker 1: that I tried BJ. Um. First of all, I fell
- 42:55Speaker 1: in love to his first record, Pineapple Now Lads is
- 43:00Speaker 1: still one of my favorite records of all time. Um.
- 43:04Speaker 1: I heard his voice and it's it's it's so reminiscent
- 43:06Speaker 1: of everything that's good about music, and he's got this
- 43:09Speaker 1: clear understanding of what soul is. I'm absolutely I'm I'm
- 43:15Speaker 1: excited about him. So he's out on the road with
- 43:18Speaker 1: me now, you know, Um, I try to walk my
- 43:22Speaker 1: walk back. You know what I'm saying so um, you know,
- 43:27Speaker 1: he was the only only feature on the album just
- 43:30Speaker 1: because Ninth Wonder is involved, and I was like, I
- 43:33Speaker 1: just like how this feels. This feels beautiful, and I
- 43:38Speaker 1: wanted Tom to give him a shout out and when
- 43:40Speaker 1: it's supporting, because I think he's amazing, all right, to
- 43:44Speaker 1: make sure we put that out there. I feel like
- 43:45Speaker 1: you and Killer Mike need to do like a revolutionary
- 43:47Speaker 1: record together. Listen, I'm about that run of Joel's Life. Okay,
- 43:53Speaker 1: I am so did you hear Oozy? One of my
- 43:58Speaker 1: favorite ever? Did you did? I'm talking about David Banner's Oozy.
- 44:02Speaker 1: You have to play It's David Banner and big crit that.
- 44:08Speaker 1: I got to play that every time, right before I perform.
- 44:12Speaker 1: I have to play that and it's its own repeat.
- 44:15Speaker 1: Loving that and obviously you know running Jules. Thank you,
- 44:19Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Appreciate your thought. Thank you. But
- 44:22Speaker 1: just got albums in stores now. One woman check her
- 44:25Speaker 1: out on the road. Wait and there's there's one more.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Please please please, Okay, I don't want to forget push
- 44:33Speaker 1: your tea okay at all. That man has a perspective
- 44:38Speaker 1: and he paints it like a surgeon. It's precise how
- 44:43Speaker 1: he paints his pictures. I love that. Do I agree
- 44:47Speaker 1: or understand everything that that or you know what I'm saying.
- 44:50Speaker 1: I've never been in that trap life. I don't get it,
- 44:52Speaker 1: you know, for myself. But I appreciate the story I did.
- 44:58Speaker 1: I did, and and I need people to look for
- 45:01Speaker 1: it is Fool's goal with the remix with Pushing t Yeah, okay, yeah,
- 45:07Speaker 1: I got a check for that. Please do but thank
- 45:09Speaker 1: you just that we really appreciate. I'm glad to see you.
- 45:13Speaker 1: Always a pleasure when you come by. Your skin looks beautiful.
- 45:15Speaker 1: Thank you. Shout out to doctor Natasha said she's a
- 45:17Speaker 1: great deb intolergence and doesn't just Scott looked good about
- 45:20Speaker 1: the way than is one of the baddest out here.
- 45:23Speaker 1: Heard Janelle Munet. It's the breakfast Club, Jill Scott